Wait are you sure?
#pvp
wintry dew
The votings seemed they were only for pve
Which means PvE players voted s2
Our catalyst seems to be S2 aswell
But the conquest/elite set are s3
broken otter
That's so fucking lame, but I guess I can respect the s2 elite set remaining limited edition
Bummer I didnt get it :<
Was hoping to grab the s2 lock elite set this season too
broken otter
Rogue s3 looks like a prolapsed anus
broken otter
At least I have no reason to play retail this season, and can focus on pandaria remix. I already got the s3 elite on my main (Mage)
broken otter
I'm a FOMO bitch
wintry dew
Same
broken otter
I p much have to lol
wintry dew
But there's nothing really worth it besides 2/3 cosmetics
broken otter
Eh, I'm looking forward to the nostalgia and taking it slow until TWW tbh
wintry dew
The "panda" tmog, the chicken backpack and something else
broken otter
The golden astral serpent looks dope too
wintry dew
Eh, I'm looking forward to the nostalgia and taking it slow until TWW tbh
Thought about it but since it is with DF talent system and gameplay... Meh
I wanted burst of speed back
broken otter
Oh, God, that talent.
I actually mained Rogue in Pandaria
That shit was fucking OP
wintry dew
Ikr
broken otter
Just zooming around Timeless Isle ganking ppl all day
wintry dew
Back when subterfuge had you in stealth for 3 seconds in combat
wintry dew
It was good man I loved cata/mop
broken otter
I hear remix has gems that work kinda like SoD runes though
Scuttlebutt says DKs get Blink and stuff
for example
but I haven't looked into it too much
wintry dew
There are special gems yes
But likewise
I didn't go much into it since they confirmed no CM sets
dapper chasm
I'm starting to think no one cares about animated stealth icons
How can so many people be so wrong?
dapper chasm
It's like when you're chilling driving down the road and all the idiots are driving the wrong way
Infuriating
orchid temple
Is gnome best cata race for ally? And orc for horde?
wintry dew
Human
Was pretty good back then
2 dps trinkets + human racial on 2 min (now it's 3)
wintry dew
Is gnome best cata race for ally? And orc for horde?
Did gnomes have anything special in cata vs humans?
halcyon timber
Its all pve though, no warmode and bgs etc
Its their way of doing a vampire survivor like game from what they were saying. Pretty much instanced off pandaria no?
I don’t remember gnomes having anything other than escape artist.
harsh steppe
does arcane torrent remove PI?
halcyon timber
Gathered that, someone was talkimg mop stuff too bub
Yes any “soft” magic torrent “can” remove
harsh steppe
ok tysm
halcyon timber
Yes sir no sweat
wintry dew
Gathered that, someone was talkimg mop stuff too bub
No you bub
potent pivot
harsh steppe
some interesting race facts I've discovered these past few days:
- the highest ranked SS sub player on US atm is a vulpera
- the 3rd highest ranked assassin atm is a void elf
- zeiss is really good
- draeni, tauren, undead, zandalari, & belf have also been near top
- orc seems to be a very solid choice for rogue too, looks like 2nd behind nelf, and in some cases are ranked higher than nelfs ladder-wise
- humans also very popular
- almost all nelf players are female lol
harsh steppe
https://tenor.com/view/kevinmcgarry-mcgarries-feelingbutterflies-feelbutter-youre-right-gif-26016953
wintry dew
You should play what feels good to you
last jasper
seems like I had another deja-vu
wintry dew
Another Tuesday for you
last jasper
no no. this time its different 
last jasper
some interesting race facts I've discovered these past few days:
* the highest r...
Just play undead and move on
harsh steppe
actually i made an undead and loving it so far...
prisma saddle
is there any gearing diffrence for sub and sin ?
seems like there exactily the same
2 set for both mastery stack
copper grove
hi who got good tuto for subtlety pvp
i have no idea what to do and wowhead pvp guide is garbage
outer sky
do we use 4 set as assass or no?
proper heath
Guys. How much CONQ are we getting per week?
I swear it was 550 per week
but it seems higher?
outer sky
looks like 1250
outer sky
2 set for both mastery stack
Theyre both vers>Mastery but after that assass is haste>crit and sub is crit>haste
wintry dew
This season they increased the cap to like 1250/1350
Everyone should be full gear this week/on reset
steel scarab
Okay so, story time
potent pivot
is there any gearing diffrence for sub and sin ?
A small bit of haste on assa is good
steel scarab
I've lost about 400 rating in the past few days, ever since we went to the beach and we unplugged everything in the house
potent pivot
hi who got good tuto for subtlety pvp
Wdym
steel scarab
Every game I felt like I couldn't do anything right
Tried multiple specs, even tried changing gear, nothing worked. Went 1-5 every game of SS
TURNS OUT
potent pivot
do we use 4 set as assass or no?
Nope
steel scarab
My wifi broadcasts two channels. The one transmits a signal at 60mbps and the other is 700mbps
My computer auto connected to the slow one.
potent pivot
The higher channel is shorter range
2.4ghz channel is long range so typically more stable if you’re not wiring Ethernet to the pc
steel scarab
That makes sense!
potent pivot
5ghz channel almost gets cut in half for every wall it has to pass through etc
steel scarab
Well it's in the same room, but
steel scarab
60mbps vs. 700mbps was definitely noticeably fucking my gameplay
outer sky
which looks weird cuz our 4 set seems super bad
potent pivot
Oh then yeah I’d use the higher mb/s channel (5ghz)
potent pivot
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/bis-gear
This is a pve guide isn’t it?
steel scarab
Aye!
potent pivot
which looks weird cuz our 4 set seems super bad
Yeah you’re looking at the pve gear. The actual pvp overview on wowhead doesn’t list gear I’m pretty sure
outer sky
So you tier legs and hands?
outer sky
oh ok
harsh steppe
So you tier legs and hands?
legs & chest looks like according to murlok
outer sky
How do you get the Zone of Focus?
Nvm found it
I need another splinter. I didnt get one last week. Can I get one from PvP?
Nvm figured that out too
harsh steppe
aha
harsh steppe
idk about sin but i would imagine it's similar to sub in that the wpvp picks are because conquest isn't uncapped yet & there are some min/max options for certain pieces
this week we should know for sure though
wouldn't hurt to have the tokens & purchase available to make tho
digital forum
Hi guys, just wanted to know what is the best spec in pvp currently ?
outer sky
So, million dollar question
How do you guys avoid just dying while getting trained by melee cleave?
harsh steppe
does sin have shiv or dismantle?
outer sky
Everyone says rogues have all this mobility but 2 shadowsteps doesnt seem like a lot of mobility
harsh steppe
Hi guys, just wanted to know what is the best spec in pvp currently ?
most say sin
harsh steppe
oh it doesn't slow like for sub?
outer sky
on 1 person
harsh steppe
oh for cleave hm
digital forum
most say sin
and what about sub ?
harsh steppe
most say sub is worst atm
but i play sub & a lot still do, it's still the best at what it does
you should play what you like, buffs & nerfs will come & go
outer sky
and what about sub ?
You exist to serve your blue cloth wearing master as his personal stun bot
last jasper
on 1 person
Shiv is not a dps button for sub
outer sky
Shiv is not a dps button for sub
He asked about sin
last jasper
He asked about sin
U asked how not to die to a melee
digital forum
you should play what you like, buffs & nerfs will come & go
Sure ! Just wanted to be sure cause honestly I'm done with the outlaw and never tried the sub
last jasper
My bad. Never mind 😂
halcyon timber
oh it doesn't slow like for sub?
Yes it applies your offhand psn like all rogues. Effects that spread shiv also tag enemies with those psn effects. (Arterial precision as an example from assassination)
surreal barn
I think assa gonna get another nerf
steel scarab
@surreal barn oh God I will literally uninstall
outer sky
I think assa gonna get another nerf
Did they say that?
outer sky
Do we want 4 set as sub?
halcyon timber
Some use it, some don’t. It is up to you seriously.
Zero idea why assassination would get hit when many other classes tab target things. Not the rogues fault 1 out of 3 people can’t be bothered to disarm / stun / stop the rogue in any way
surreal barn
Just got invincible
From a frozen path through time
Well, whatever the raid quest was
surreal barn
If you go to wotlk dalaran in the center you will see the quest
Then in LFG click premade groups>raids-legacy> and type in TW to filter timewalking ones for ulduar
I don’t think I’ve even killed the lich king on this account which is funny
wintry dew
I can give a TLDR
This reset is timewalking Wotlk
If you go to old dalaran (in northrend) you will see a vendor and a questgiver to "defeat Yogg-Saron" (last boss from ulduar) which gives you a Box with a HERO track item, some crests (?) and either a PET or a MOUNT (rare ones btw like ashes of alar, invencible or even mirmiron's head)
last jasper
thats some kind of insane luck to get invincible from a box
tough spruce
I don’t think I’ve even killed the lich king on this account which is funny
Over a 100 lich king kills and still nothing. Now I have to do that quest lol
potent pivot
I think assa gonna get another nerf
considering the state of the more "OP" classes, i'm pretty doubtful rogue will get another nerf
waxen meteor
thats some kind of insane luck to get invincible from a box
that chest from tw raid does give a lot of good stuff in good rate
i have seen 18230128 guidlies open great achievements
wintry dew
sh
stoic spruce
no they deserve the hate
last jasper
seeing nahj playing dh was unexpected
potent pivot
no they deserve the hate
???
wintry dew
I was talking in game with another rogue brother that has boots + lifebound with mastery emb and he wants to swap to shadowflame
isnt shadowflame pretty shit and only used to proc rings?
wintry dew
If there are top players using shadowflame is purely to try to proc rings correct?
potent pivot
isnt shadowflame pretty shit and only used to proc rings?
you mean flaring cowl?
potent pivot
can you link
so ik for sure which u mean
but i'm pretty sure theres only a couple people using it to proc the rings or w/e
wintry dew
potent pivot
i don't think it's anything crazy good afaik
yeah i don't see anyone wearing that
not that i can see anyway
wintry dew
yeah
potent pivot
only 3 people wearing it on the Outlaw section
nobody wearing it in the sub/assa sections
but that's just w/e specs they logged out in
the tried and true embellishments are the mastery/main stat ones
surprisingly a lot of people wearing the snowball embellishment set as outlaw
but for sub i'd stick with mast/main stat for sure really
personally
wintry dew
i saw him like 2 days ago
using the wrists + belt i believe
cant open links
ffs
blizzard site not working
hushed island
last jasper
same for me
hushed island
its to proc the ring
oh sht forreal?
wintry dew
yeah
and his ring is 528
which requires either a lot of wins above 2100
or like 7/8 mythic dungeons above +5
waxen meteor
wait, isn't this dude a dh 🙂
wintry dew
who
wintry dew
oh sht forreal?
you know the ring?
hushed island
na bro tbf
wintry dew
ill link in game
potent pivot
https://drustvar.com/pvp/comps check this out
hushed island
shud i just go copnq rings or thos rings better?
potent pivot
wait nvm may have lied to you
wdym
like just the low amount of matches listed?
check arena logs
yeah just trying to give you the data that i can readily give :d
https://wowarenalogs.com/search try this site
idk if downloading the actual client from that is a good idea or not - so i'm not indorsing that in any way
but you can look through other people's games that have been logged
you can adjust the filters like this^
to check all matches logged with ret war x vs assa x x, etc
how's this not enough data
there's pages and pages of matches
untick the 2100+, but either way it'll give you a rough idea
how many teams playing those specific comps are even over 2.1 rn
the season isn't that inflated at all yet
looking at data above 1.8k will give you a decent idea based on the win/lose ratios
gleaming pawn
<:dead:932888396316155934>
Obviously only 2100+ matters because players of that rank or higher need to ask others how to play the game
potent pivot
i mean nobodies perfect
even the top 0.1% have to ask each other questions
yeh what he's saying is you don't need to be an outrageously high ranked player to answer the question
anyone can look and see
outer sky
what % damage is CT usually in a typical 3s match up for you guys?
outer sky
top 100 assa is 2k rating atm
in what bracket?
outer sky
shit I'm 2k I must be good
potent pivot
you're kidding right
outer sky
Do we ever actually press envenom in 3s? It feels like by the time I'm done multi dotting the dots are falling off of someone and need to be reapplied. Rinse and repeat
hushed island
guys is there a cap on bronze bullions i have one how do i get more?
potent pivot
it doesn't matter
you have your own opinion, that's fine
i just tried to help answer your question
some of the best players in the game are not top 10 right now
surreal barn
Are you talking about shuffle
potent pivot
because there's no real reason to be top 10 all the time
not always true either
i'm saying not all of them are going to stay top 10
so your logic is just flawed as fuck
gleaming pawn
You can only be a good player if you’re top 10, no one else’s opinion matters 
Just go bother some streamers with your questions
potent pivot
the top 10 players of any spec/class is fluid throughout a season
so only thinking the opinions of someone in the top 10 matters
is just straight stupid
¯_(ツ)_/¯
potent pivot
yeah i'm not trying to say every 1.8k player is good
i'm saying to look at aggregate data from 1.8k+ will get you the answer you're looking for
just by looking at the average win/loss ratios
and checking the logs for win conditions
easily
and i'm saying the top 100 players of any class
are all insanely good
and the top 100 rogues rn are only 2k+ rating
which is why looking at the aggregate data of 1.8k+ is fine IMO
to answer an easy question
outer sky
I'm gunna counter that by saying I'm over 2k rating and I suck
stoic spruce
I wonder if later htis season will be giga inflated
potent pivot
but i'm done with this convo, i'm wasting my time lol
outer sky
Like, I'm over 2k and I dont even have a focus macro
stoic spruce
I wonder if later htis season will be giga inflated
it doesnt look like a lot are playing
gleaming pawn
Pro tip, if not even NoTrickz is going to help you. Just leave because the rest of us don’t have his patience
You’re a clown, truly
potent pivot
!mute @candid viper 24h The weird elitism is one thing, but being rude to someone over a gamer score is where I’m drawing the line
dapper chasm
During cata I played RMD to 2.3k or so, we got to some stupid mmr like 2.6-2.7 (for me) and at one sweet, sweet point, we were ranked number 1
surreal barn
Lul
dapper chasm
Lasted like a game
Anyway, my point is I only ever clowned
And I didn't realise that BoP stopped only melee the whole time
stoic spruce
gtfo this game too
wintry dew
And I didn't realise that BoP stopped only melee the whole time
no matter you were still a r1
It doesnt matter if it is a ww2 achievment
completed before i was born
😛
potent pivot
I wonder if later htis season will be giga inflated
Yeah I kinda doubt it
Will likely be less inflated than last season unless the devs inject extra artificial inflation like they have in the past
First season of TWW will likely be extremely inflated like always
gleaming pawn
This season will likely be the most deflated we have ever seen
stoic spruce
its so over
gleaming pawn
Just had a 782k rapid fire
Balanced
surreal barn
I love it, this mage was so much better than me too
Had to give him a nice teabag when he didn’t release in the blitz
jolly sierra
just read the chat
im the guy the muted wanted to advice
but i refuse to help him, way too elitist
wintry dew
are you top10?
jolly sierra
top 100000000
potent pivot
wintry dew
then u sux
jolly sierra
i know
surreal barn
We are but humble rogues here
harsh steppe
he's in my SS rn lol
jolly sierra
wut
gleaming pawn
Murder him
jolly sierra
he's in my SS rn lol
tell him panda sends regards
jolly sierra
Not gonna allow it in here tho
that is fine
dapper chasm
Not gonna allow it in here tho
stoic spruce
We are but humble rogues here
us outlaw and assa bros gotta stick together yknow
dapper chasm
I thought this was the PvP channel? Toxicity is required
How else can I hurt people here?
dapper chasm
No, not till it's too late
surreal barn
us outlaw and assa bros gotta stick together yknow
Pretty sure I’m going sub next season
😆
stoic spruce
you just gained an enemy
surreal barn
lollll
dapper chasm
With a weak spec
stoic spruce
just know that everything I'm going to say about sub and sub players I 100% mean it
jolly sierra
I thought this was the PvP channel? Toxicity is required
madness is needed
toxicity is just needed as assa
to handle better poisons
wintry dew
he's in my SS rn lol
wait really?
stoic spruce
https://tenor.com/view/brad-pitt-cry-sad-gun-aim-gif-16220733
me in TWW when I get you @surreal barn
stoic spruce
hell I'd rather you play tank than sub
harsh steppe
yeah i stomped his ass
dapper chasm
and you at full energy
Thistle Tea at end to show it was still there
nova viper
stoic spruce
Murder him
I've been saying "chat" a lot and I've been saying "Chat, kill this man"
I seen a feral open up on my dk and my immediate thought was "Chat, whack his pp"
Idr if we won or lost
I was on my dk so we prolly lost
potent pivot
you just gained an enemy
All rogues are the homies
stoic spruce
Negative
potent pivot
Until they give us a reason to not be homies
stoic spruce
.>
Realz said that and he made all three specs play with shadowdance for 2 seasons.
potent pivot
L
L
I dislike having Dance on all 3 specs, but I gotta be real, it opened up a lot of more intricate play possibilities with outlaw and assa
Thematically and dps rotation wise, I prefer it on sub alone
But having the extra avenue to use stealth abilities on the other specs has been kinda dope
stoic spruce
I thought it was cool too until I realized I had no choice if I wanted to push any content
I'm on the fence about a lot of things with outlaw these days
sick wasp
dance is a button that unlocks stupid amounts of utility/dmg in general
all 3 specs are locked behind it,just too strong
stoic spruce
harsh steppe
just vacuumed & showered; interestingly my pvp skills went up about 12.3%, just sharing at tip
jolly sierra
no fkn way, body grease awards more versatility
harsh steppe
what's the best thing to buy from the honor vendor to flip/sell for gold?
jolly sierra
pvp recipes
harsh steppe
tysm
outer sky
What talent build should I play if I want to cheese 1 shots in arena as sub by exploiting duel?
jolly sierra
switch to assa
outer sky
switch to assa
How do you exploit duel as assa?
jolly sierra
How do you exploit duel as assa?
going assa with smoke bomb and kill in the window, sub barely does dmg, even worse as cheesy
outer sky
going assa with smoke bomb and kill in the window, sub barely does dmg, even wor...
How do you exploit duel as assa?
outer sky
Idk about you but I can still 100-0 people as sub in a duel even playing the standard build
i just think it could be more reliable
remote apex
wait can we not earn the elite colorations of sets this season?
stoic spruce
no nog effect either
safe turret
Does flaring cowl break CC?
wanton breach
just vacuumed & showered; interestingly my pvp skills went up about 12.3%, just ...
i don't wanna vacuum my body
stoic spruce
Yes you do :)
harsh steppe
gm
wanton breach
Yes you do :)
maybe I want you to vacuum my body 😉
wintry dew
harsh steppe
SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
confused by the math & charges; everytime i can pop crimson vial, i can pop Feint, is that right? or is it the reverse
wintry dew
If you have charges yes
harsh steppe
so as long as i only pop one charge every 12 seconds, i will always have feint avail at the same time as CV right?
harsh steppe
ok ty aha ❤️
harsh steppe
what does this mean "up to" +5? i've done a billion 0s and haven't got any... 1-5?
harsh steppe
0 is "up to" 5
harsh steppe
ohhh
wintry dew
Keystones start at +2
harsh steppe
uhh idk
harsh steppe
idc about pve gear just capping conq gear
wintry dew
Then
Why are you asking about
Upgrading gear?
Conquest gear is capped from the get go
528 pvp
harsh steppe
sorry if i wasn't clear
i want to know what's the highest M+s i'll need to run to max out my conq gear
wintry dew
And I asked you the right question
harsh steppe
champion 8/8
harsh steppe
so i'll never need to do higher than m+2s to 8/8 my conq gear
wintry dew
No
wintry dew
harsh steppe
the upgrades are just for pve?
tough spruce
the upgrades are just for pve?
Yes
harsh steppe
please be patient, trying my best to understand
wintry dew
And you asked that question
wintry dew
XD
We explained you in like S1 (?) that pvp items had their pvp ilevels determined
Was like this the whole expansion
The only thing you could upgrade was the PvE counterpart ilvl
Which is irrelevant for pvp
rocky osprey
Thats it
U wont need more than +2s or play above 1k8 to upgrade pvp gear
If u wanna use a PvE item in arena or bg ull hace to do +6s or play above 2k1 to reach 528 (some items 535) ilvl
wintry dew
Yep
wintry dew
No u
dapper chasm
Oh, really?
dapper chasm
Why the frick does the game not tell me?
I don't read guides
That's just spoilers
wintry dew
You should be able to have almost full conquest gear by now
dapper chasm
I have enough points to buy gloves next
Then I'll be missing trink
Got that shit open as we speak
wintry dew
You can use the wpvp epic items to fill gaps like belt wrists back
wintry dew
Poor dummy
dapper chasm
Couldn't see the ST properly but I think it was 180k a hit
Hey, don't disparage the dummy
Good rotation is 90% of PvP
wintry dew
True true
dapper chasm
Then it's ten percent luck, twenty percent skill
Fifteen percent concentrated power of will
Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain
And a hundred percent reason to remember the name (Zanaken)
wintry dew
Best lyrics ever
wintry dew
Yes
dapper chasm
By stealing my bars - jeez
Mine clearly says Zanaken at the end there
Anyway, I don't need my name up in lights
wintry dew
Yeah it's clearly not needed, anyone know zanawho
dapper chasm
Don't mention that prick to me
wintry dew
Are you from England btw?
dapper chasm
Can't you tell by the way I can spell and shit?
wintry dew
I've never seen you shit
last jasper
Jesus the vault end up so bad that getting a spark is the only okay option
wintry dew
And sockets?
last jasper
Already have them. Except one ring. But the ring is still honor
dapper chasm
I started this week on 1814 rating - and after 4 grueling matches, with twist, turns, and back and forths, I stand proud and tall at 1814 rating
pliant spoke
Reelz man im begging you, fix assass rogue pvp. The single target in arena, bgs, rbgs, etc is just horrid. I do not want to play an aoe m+ spec in pvp for energy regen. It does not feel good.
Ive been maining assass for years and this is the worst it has ever felt in pvp.
waxen meteor
Reelz man im begging you, fix assass rogue pvp. The single target in arena, bgs,...
Are you late to the party or sth
pliant spoke
yup sure am. i stopped playing most of s3 and came back for s4 and its just as bad
waxen meteor
Sin is probably not the best but seems at least solid in arena
pliant spoke
its solid when you have the energy, but with no TT charges and the high cost of mutilate, kills it in no time
waxen meteor
its solid when you have the energy, but with no TT charges and the high cost of ...
Hmm you might be using very dated build from early s3
Now we are doing CT and Fan
pliant spoke
ya we shouldnt have to be using those
waxen meteor
The ‘pure’ single target build is a bit lack of energy and doesn’t do much dmg
You can tell from 2s
I guess overall in 3s we are putting the old build behind
wintry dew
The "we shouldn't have to be using those" in arena is kinda debatable
waxen meteor
ya we shouldnt have to be using those
You don’t have to use fan, it’s just better in some scenarios not all
But CT seems quite alright
pliant spoke
you dont have to use fan, but 35 energy vs 70 is pretty huge
wintry dew
,70?
pliant spoke
i dont mind too much tossing out a CT, but thats just another dot and and another gcd that I have to press
waxen meteor
fan is single CP generator
pliant spoke
VV
waxen meteor
It needs to crit on bigger group
wintry dew
Why are you using VV?
pliant spoke
as we established, im apparently using an old s3 build 😛
wintry dew
pliant spoke
What is vv
wintry dew
as we established, im apparently using an old s3 build 😛
If you don't keep up with trends and builds, why the random coming into the chat asking Realz for changes?
waxen meteor
Oh yeah
I use that in single build too
And in 2s
But just leave those behind for s4
They are not that useful in 3s
wintry dew
Meanwhile top 50 assa rn, 1 guy uses it /used it
waxen meteor
I even use DTB in 2s
wintry dew
(solo)
pliant spoke
If you don't keep up with trends and builds, why the random coming into the chat...
because regardless, it still feels like crap in pvp. im not a shadow priest or a warlock, i shoudlnt need to dot everything in existance to have a chance at playing my character
wintry dew
Hm
You know
Especially in pvp
You gotta consume and adapt
Especially the adapt part
surreal barn
I don’t feel like you understand the flow
Cause it slaps when you do
Upload a video
waxen meteor
In solo the anti-healing thing stacks really fast
dmg is more important than organized 3s
when anti-healing thing reaches 50% or more it's basically impossible to heal
waxen meteor
Cause it slaps when you do
btw, i run into a sin rogue in 2.1 ish solo with my sp alt, he run deadly when he plays with DH
deadly did more than 8% of his total dmg
surreal barn
Assa is even destroying in 2s now too it’s kinda good all around
waxen meteor
Assa is even destroying in 2s now too it’s kinda good all around
am not sure about that
waxen meteor
guess no
surreal barn
I want to say yes lol
waxen meteor
MM is also doing not too much dmg without burst window
I think still fit sub better
surreal barn
I don’t know man
waxen meteor
well, obvisouly the not much dmg is not like sub not much dmg
surreal barn
The 4pc procs so much
Aimed into rapid is about half a health bar
And I don’t even have the good bow yet
gleaming pawn
Assa doesn’t typically play in Thug Cleave, but this current iteration might work but you’ll be on an enrage timer because you won’t have a lot to help save your hunter or survive yourself
harsh steppe
@steel scarab did the same thing as you the past 24 hours LOL
moved around the couch & furniture in the living room yesterday morning, had to move the internet too
i changed the name on my internet a while back but my computer remembers it previously as the old name and the new
when i reconnected it autoconnected to the old name
for the past 24 hours been losing rating and my internet has been crazy slow
then today i figured it out LOL
you jinxed me
steel scarab
That is 1000% cursed
I couldn't put my finger on why I was playing so bad, but if I had to describe it, it was like trying to drive a car with two flat tires. Like yeah everything works, but it's not as responsive as you're used to, and our class demands responsiveness
It's probably entirely possible to pvp as rogue with a 60mbps connection, but definitely not when you've practiced for years on a 700mbps connection
It's like trying to run a marathon with 20lb weights tied to your ankles
Especially since our GCD is so low
harsh steppe
yeah the problem is when i uncheck connect automatically, & then i also hit forget, it just pops up again right after
this is a before & after pic, the same old router name still pops up
gonna have to research it more seems like a windows issue at least on my end
steel scarab
Very weird
harsh steppe
going to sue bill gates for bringing down my CR
wintry dew
Tbf he still has rewards he needs to collect until 1500
dapper chasm
I don't think bandwidth is important for WoW. My old 250mb line and new 1gb line both get about 8-12ms ping in game
wintry dew
I didn't answer you the first time but what's up with the pointing fingers?
gleaming pawn
Why is this random new account trying to start shit with Hyper?
It’s nothing but pathetic and cringe
wintry dew
As far as I know hyper never tried to sell his stuff in the channel
So as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter what he does or doesn't
So I'll ask you to tone it down
You've made more publicity to his store today than he for a whole expansion
gleaming pawn
@potent pivot we have another clown for banning
wintry dew
!mute @glad cedar
surreal barn
Someone asked me at work something I usually have no problem calculating
I think Hunter has made me a dumbass
gleaming pawn
Oh no, the brain rot is real
wooden spire
!ban @glad cedar 2 of your 5 messages are tagging and attacking a member of this server (this is against the rules, in case that wasn't clear). So maybe this isn't the place for you
wintry dew
wooden spire
pale storm
wintry dew
This is Ravenholdt
neat bough
Friendly reminder:
I congratulate everyone for their achievements reaching higher ranks but Ravenholdt is not the place to use this as an opportunity to disrespect others. Attacking others will result in moderation actions.
Have a nice day!```TLDR someone recently joined the server, and started bashing on Hyper for no reason
No background to this
straight to punching
gleaming pawn
Yep very bizarre
candid condor
jolly sierra
damn those ghosts
anyways lets switch topic
the most roguish keychain i was able to get, a TF
just arrived to mail
wintry dew
go rest my guy
wintry dew
o.o
stoic spruce
Ye
wintry dew
Good luck soldier
surreal barn
guy didnt even reach round 2
Tyson better do the same thing
wintry dew
I should get burger King on my way to work
Do it, threat yourself
stoic spruce
Mmmm
gleaming pawn
Do it, threat yourself
I threat myself all the time. Like “you sonovabitch! You’d better get the world quests done for gold”
stoic spruce
Birgor
wintry dew
I threat myself all the time. Like “you sonovabitch! You’d better get the world ...
^ me everytime someone mentions farming gold
surreal barn
I was so loaded in classic when it came out
I was just giving gold out to people. I had the black lotus farm DOWN
The timers, everything. A very low point in my life
wintry dew
I need 1.5M gold, wanna sponsor me?
surreal barn
😆
Maybe you do
I’d have just bought it w tokens tbh
That murloc mog has my name on it
wintry dew
(already bought 2 
)
surreal barn
Nice. I do like the dreadnaught
If I sat on Zeiss in valdrakken all day I’d clear some good gold from crafts
wintry dew
I'm trying but it seems my tradechat is dead
broken otter
the most roguish keychain i was able to get, a TF
Duuude, that keychain is lit!
I mean SEXOOO
=P
sick wasp
this looks amazing
sick wasp
the most roguish keychain i was able to get, a TF
also this 🤘
surreal barn
They use to sell them on the wow site
sick wasp
i think i could buy one of those,love it
surreal barn
I have never nerded out and painted miniatures before so I’d probably be awful
gleaming pawn
I know I would end up too far down the rabbit hole if I started 3D printing miniatures and painting them, so I have avoided going anywhere near that hobby
jolly sierra
I'm trying but it seems my tradechat is dead
wanna craft 1?
i can if u come to my server
jolly sierra
Duuude, that keychain is lit!
SEXOOOOOOOOOO
wintry dew
wanna craft 1?
craft what? and its server locked :C
jolly sierra
craft what? and its server locked :C
is not, u are from PR? come to spanish servers w a new char and move ur item
its a legal trick
since latest patches
wintry dew
oh yeah i know, i have some tricks up my sleeves
wintry dew
i dont mind sharing since 80% of the servers are already screwed
I went to a german server to buy 32 slot bags for 8g each
last jasper
hmmm.. I see more ppl with 4set as sub...
dapper chasm
As a TOP ONE HUNDRED sub player myself, the 4set seems shit
Not just due to the effect, but the stats you give up for them
dapper chasm
I didn't wana show off
last jasper
I knew. But it seems ppl is taking it for crit (sub needs crit)
jolly sierra
U NEED TO BE THE TOP TEN THOUSAND ONE
last jasper
I just dunno should I craft crit/mast or get a 4 set. Since I have 113 mastery anyway
dapper chasm
Yeah, but the crit isn't gonna give you consistency when it's below 50% ish
gleaming pawn
Channeling my inner popo, top 100 in Sub is like the top 100 at the special Olympics, no?
dapper chasm
Going from 20% to 25% SOUNDS like a 25% increase, but it's shite
last jasper
not like 50. Same as in s3. around 25-30
dapper chasm
Yeah, that's shite
last jasper
U only need 1 evis to crit and maybe 1 clone from sec tec
dapper chasm
OR have everything do more damage
If I had 95% crit, another 5% is huge, but when I have 20% to start with?...
last jasper
I mean ppl like nahj etc already tested this in s3
dapper chasm
I'm a person too
last jasper
Before nerfs pretty much all subs were running around 25-30 crit and mastery
I just dont know should I care since I way above 100%
last jasper
this is me
last jasper
and i dont have engi helm yet
last jasper
I dont love crit
I just dont love hitting 150k evises
and with a tea build we kinda need some
dapper chasm
We'd all love to have it all
But I think the right path right now is to focus on consistency
We do nearly 0 sustain damage, which crit would help more
But as it stands we can 100-0 any class once their buttons are gone
Crit wont help that, crit helps with forcing CDs without using yours in the early to mid game of the match
But once your CC lines up and the killshot comes, crit should not be a factor (should being the key word)
Like - I wouldn't set up a kill opportunity (and invest CDs into it) just to hope that I get loads of weaponmaster procs
last jasper
But as it stands we can 100-0 any class once their buttons are gone
Depends. If it’s a warrior kinda hard.
dapper chasm
Get gud
dapper chasm
Exactly - think "I GET TO do more damage to him because he has plate"
wintry dew
last jasper
If you think you do MORE dmg, then you do
I see
last jasper
Exactly - think "I GET TO do more damage to him because he has plate"
My thoughts usually way worse than that about any war player 😂😂
Not helping much tbh
wintry dew
I don't play sub atm so i'll refrain from doing more meme comments
But keep pumping Egoist
Up is the way
dapper chasm
My thoughts usually way worse than that about any war player 😂😂
You ever popped loads of CDs on a low hp opponent and then the backstab kills them before the evis? That kind of blueballing is avoided thanks to plate wearers
last jasper
Well I started playing wow as a dk. So suffer more is kinda my thing 😂
last jasper
You ever popped loads of CDs on a low hp opponent and then the backstab kills th...
U are not helping 😂
wintry dew
xD
last jasper
I need to decide. Get 4 set or craft mast crit ring.
last jasper
Cuz I don’t want to lose vers and mast just for crit
And 4set is kinda trash. I only consideriing cuz rupture hits like a truck and would hit even more
dapper chasm
Vers seems kinda shite to me too
As a stat it can never give you all it offers
You're either getting a dmg boost or are being hit
But killing a rogue is fucking hard anyway
last jasper
yea, true.
stoic spruce
Need burger
jolly sierra
borgar
stoic spruce
Mmmm
potent pivot
pvp tier colors go hard next season
Indeed. I’m actually excited for a season for once
First patch seasons go hard+nice set
tribal badger
i love the new elite mog system so much ngl
walking into raid week 1 with my full elite mog already complete because 1800 solo shuffle takes no time at all
"tier? who is waiting for tier to drop"
ive gotten elite mogs on 7+ classes a season this expac just because i wanna grab the ones i like since its so easy to get access to them now
potent pivot
walking into raid week 1 with my full elite mog already complete because 1800 so...
They’re talking about making things even more accessible too
potent pivot
Glad is supposed to stay similar to how it is now
surreal barn
Did you see that other glad mount recolor
potent pivot
But the appearances are going to be easier to get supposedly
surreal barn
Maybe it’s for shuffle 🤞🏼
tribal badger
interesting
i think they are super accesible already tbh but if u can bait more people into trying out pvp by making stuff even more accesible im always fine with that
potent pivot
I think they need to rework the rating system tbh
Maybe make it tiered or something like LoL
last jasper
Maybe it’s for shuffle 🤞🏼
would be a huge L if they wont put any kind of a mount into shuffle
nova lodge
did they ever fix the pvp elite set this season giving the wrong apperance? we voted on s2 and it shows as s3 still
gleaming pawn
There’s nothing to fix. The s2 appearance was for PvE only
nova lodge
nothing points to that being true afaik
but them doing nothing about it seems that way
gleaming pawn
The PvP appearance has been labeled as “season 3 & 4” since before the patch went live
They just neglected to mention the difference during the polling
gleaming pawn
The normal set is the same as well, which is what they are talking about. Not when you convert a piece into tier
oak frost
if no other set appearence from other classes/specs went from s3 to earlier seasons, why would rogues?
jolly sierra
ELITE IS THE PURPLE ONE?
gleaming pawn
It’s every spec
wintry dew
👀
gleaming pawn
Nah just use the Alyrazor’s Razor with the purple flame
And skip the dreadflame illusion
gleaming pawn
Yes but it’s also a great model
wintry dew
No you're a great model
gleaming pawn
gleaming pawn
We need better dagger models. Being pretty much the only class that uses them means we get screwed not getting badass daggers
@wintry dew fix it with your influence and mog powers
jolly sierra
@wintry dew cmon its pvp related, if it is the elite one we need the swag
but some notes ive checked
discordant SL items does match
wintry dew
so, is dreadflame the bis illusion with that purple one? lol
This is true, no one can change my mind
wintry dew
electrowing dagger
just use CHRONOS illusion
jolly sierra
got it, what about the best dagger?
wintry dew
<@256188402116984832> fix it with your influence and mog powers
My mog powers only work during current content D:
wintry dew
<@256188402116984832> cmon its pvp related, if it is the elite one we need the s...
Have y'all seen the daggers from the next raid? if the dressing room is correct, there are some cool daggers
harsh steppe
bootleg shadowflame
i'd tap it
wintry dew
this dagger MIGHT look good on that set
gleaming pawn
Bleh the model is way too big
wintry dew
gleaming pawn
That’s a goddamn sword
wintry dew
harsh steppe
the bigger the better
jolly sierra
surreal barn
So there’s a white dagger I bought with bullions
It goes hard with so many illusions
wintry dew
which one?
potent pivot
surreal barn
You got it normally on mythic I need to find one sec
potent pivot
jolly sierra
<:concernedpopcorn:622840041118629929>
relax look its the pvp recolor
potent pivot
relax look its the pvp recolor
surreal barn
Mythic enduring shard of terros
wintry dew
ohh terros
surreal barn
Bullions its vault raiders storming shard
surreal barn
But the white looks so good with enchants
potent pivot
Ah
surreal barn
Yeah
jolly sierra
try primal storm
potent pivot
I’ll get it once I can solo the raids in 3 expansions
surreal barn
It’s like the inside of your enchant is burning white
jolly sierra
its like made for that
surreal barn
I’ll get it once I can solo the raids in 3 expansions
Get it now with 1 bullion lol
wintry dew
Tbf theres an old "dagger" that kinda amplifies illusions
jolly sierra
Tbf theres an old "dagger" that kinda amplifies illusions
maraudon one?
potent pivot
Get it now with 1 bullion lol
What exactly gets me a bullion
gleaming pawn
Raid bosses
potent pivot
I have touched nothing but pvp in so long
jolly sierra
LFR
gleaming pawn
Sadly you missed the m+ quest last week that gave 2 extra
jolly sierra
can give u a lot
gleaming pawn
Yeah LFR works
jolly sierra
fucking smoky edgy flame kinda works w this xmog
gleaming pawn
You have a chance for one each boss kill
wintry dew
gleaming pawn
And there is catchup for any you missed
potent pivot
You have a chance for one each boss kill
Oof
jolly sierra
oh that works too
potent pivot
Oh if there’s catch up I should be fine
jolly sierra
lemme see
gleaming pawn
Oh if there’s catch up I should be fine
Yeah you’re eligible for 4 total right now
wintry dew
yeah im planning to just queu LFR last weeks with a warrior and a rogue
and BRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
potent pivot
Yep
potent pivot
yeah im planning to just queu LFR last weeks with a warrior and a rogue
Is the acc wide tmog a thing yet
Or is that tww
wintry dew
its suppose to go live in the prepatch
wintry dew
and in THEORY
any item you got on your bags, mail/cloth/etc, you'll learn their appearance
potent pivot
Hmmmmmm
Idk
Have seen some janky shit with item updates in the past
Guess it depends on what the transmog coding is like and how it interacts with the items themselves
wintry dew
They said that we could start "now" saving said items in our bags
i can't link you because it was weeks ago
surreal barn
What exactly gets me a bullion
LFR it and you have a pretty high chance each kill
I did it on my alt and got 4 last week pretty easy
wintry dew
I did it on my alt and got 4 last week pretty easy
you mean 3 last week :3
potent pivot
They said that we could start "now" saving said items in our bags
Ooh well if they said it then should be good
Off to the races
Druid with a move speed set is still the meta isn’t it
potent pivot
:wicked:
harsh steppe
do we know what percent exactly does the screen flash red at when your health gets low
surreal barn
Yes
wintry dew
Bro im portuguese :c
gleaming pawn
Bro im portuguese :c
No excuse
wintry dew
All i understand is caralho
surreal barn
You dont have horses?
potent pivot
O i c
potent pivot
Bro im portuguese :c
Vamanos