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because they arent making a new spec for every class
stance dancer
Only plausible explanation I can come up with for them treating outlaw the way they have outside of them just saying fuck the spec not worth the time
Happy bday

but tbf i have this weekend off

Lmaooo
nah man they just forgot
they don't wanna mess with the amount of bugs that outlaw has
They forgor 
Yea it could just be that they thought it wasn’t worth the time investment when we have 2 working specs lol
and since 10.0 might just scrap everything out
the bugs might just dont matter anymore
blizz just roll dice on which rogue spec gets the dickens
u mean 0?
same
it was really ass in 9.0 tho
9.0 and then 7.2
arguably 8.0 i guess until sub got slapped with like 5 trait nerfs
but that was pretty quick
I mean they work they’re just not fun 
Well sub aoe is fun when you hit hella procs but besides that eh
sin is fun rn but its also got some flaws in general
you like your 1 button rotation 
Yea mfd is just a turn off
Dopamine slot machine go brrrr
i just disagree with mfd being a turn off but thats my opinion
i think its at least cool that its a talent that synergizes with the covenant
but i dont really have talent preferences in general
in that row at least
i can totally get behind people being tired of flag
i dont really care enough but i think thats a totally reasonable take
@native flower top 5bus stops
oh you mean bonespike dragonspike
yeah that and torment of deathwing (flagellation)
twilight reprimand
and stepdragon
Are they actually revealing major details like that or just the plot / theme of the xpac though?
y
who knows dude from what ive surmised they could say some expansion features n shit too
Hopefully 
Show me the smoke bomb lol
tbh
idk how expansion reveals go
but what im expecting is more general shit
like
"class reworks"
or even
shadow priest rework
or rogue rework
but nothing specific like smoke bomb
You mean smoke of nature, a 1min 20%dr aoe that is for balance druids
Cinematic trailer
And feature trailer, aka some of the new stuff/the zones
Thats it, thats always the first look we get for new expansions
i remember hearing they announced covenants n shit last time
so like just general features and stuff
Thats the feature trailer lol
yeah i wasnt trying to contradict you
absolute fucking double U for UK
You even got the certified™️©® Street sign
And authentic discard rubbish
What a time to be alive

He got mad haki
but have you seen the original in the 1st part? 
Can’t wait for this weekend
And we back and we back and we back and we back and we back
metal gear rising
Raizo had his chance now he can fuck off and can finish the arc
@crude cave @inner wadi https://twitter.com/NikkiMcR/status/1515130557675581442
I promise you are not prepared for Tucker's latest montage
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Lmaoooo I don’t read manga don’t spoil
i remember guy saying that game was super self aware or smth
Oh my bad it's nothing spoiler dw 
TWO OF NINETEEN???
i wonder if the SPQR in the back has something to do with it
thats me thats what i look like
Little Portugal 
why is that place actually called little portugal 
It's stockwell
Just loads of Portuguese shit there
I fucks wit it
that works i guess then
China town here is bussin I love going there
I wonder if we got any other places like that
Needa find me little Puerto Rico and get some tamales lol


I saw my mum today and I told her people from countries like Germany, sweden, Denmark etc have heard of Croydon
She said, and I quote, "fuck off they haven't, it is a shit hole though"
i cant even remember where ive heard of croydon
It's just infamous
but i remember ive heard of brixton in a book or something
Was it a book on stabbings

i think brixton was connected to riots
Living near Croydon during them riots was mad
Yerp
damn bruv

its like america in all the tv shows cookie cutter houses n shit
Damn must be a big cookie
ye thats why its so expensive jake
Is this how it feels @worldly blade
thats a question for scarizard
Skip vs Scarizard was some funny shit ngl
bro what

I fucking hate when creators do that
and scarizard
fuck u got an ego for
dickhead
boof ass dev + literally cant do balance + content is dogshit
pipe it bozo


the moment outlaw was forsaken
that was the funniest shit bro
fuck him
Adding an agi dagger to rygelon is easily the biggest bait
time for another hope arc until tuesday disappoints all of us 
Like where we thought blizz cared about rogues
Skip was getting shit on by one in the discord
We thought we were in
they could have just made dagger have int and agi so it could actually be obtainable
asking for too much buddy
last rygelon dagger that dropped, 2 casters pressed Need on it 
the agi one?
yeah

looks the same
bro we dont want that stupid vers proc
most of outlaw would be fixed if I was just allowed to spam ping scarizard
fuck that shit
but muh admins and mods wont let me have fun
sylv dagger was cool enough for the patch i dont want more bullshit

- Do not dm me
I think EoN was fine design
if you spam pinged scarizard i'm pretty sure outlaw would get 5% nerf per ping
Fuck me
i dont want for the dagger to have a disproportionate share or whatever
Iconic
twice in a row
That is one hell of a clap back still
like sylv dagger mattered more than ryg dagger because the effect was better than same ilvl dagger stats right

so its a bigger spike
ye
and your damage is shittier by comparison
if you dont have it
it was fun for sod
but doing it again wouldve been less fun
like strength melee with the jailer mace now
after jaithys
community council member skip clapping back
OWS
he's never talking to an outlaw player again
Oh
yeah
Basically ows/sigil or OWS/fcm
Shriekwing trinket comeback? 
Man I don't even wanna think about that yet
I’m going for drest
blizzard did their community tour pretending to care already so yeah
i dont expect him to return
cynical guy NODDERS
he's right
He ain't wrong

did he leave? 
im not saying hes wrong
No, he's just done his pr
He'll be back for alpha/beta I'm sure
he is kinda praised outside the rogue community

on max's stream 
yeah up until the point blizzard does the post with "ok we ran out of time so nothing is changing in beta anymore"
and then he'll go away again
:p
i dont think dks were happy with him
but theyre kinda dumb so
blizz too busy fucking with warlock target caps to help rogues on
DK are just dead warriors
OOF what a rudeboi
that convo extra tilts me because he responded with "oh i thought we fixed them all"
didnt respond when i sent him the list
and this was 1 day before having a 2+ hour convo
so i dont like him very much
very disrespectful person
Wahh wahh
Shitty dev at riot shitty dev at blizzard
Nothing changes
🤌
never heard Max talk high about him?
Fuck max
probably nothing? he worked at riot
Skull emoji times 7
Max is literally what i think of when i hear people talk about soy
i mean max doesnt look into classes at all tho
Max can’t even play sin I don’t want his opinion on rogues
^
Literally doesnt even play the game

LOL!

Watch a stream buddy let the real players talk
Mans can’t even used shiv properly fuck outta here
im sure if he put any time into it he could play sin
but
as it stands
he definitely cant
but yeah i guess its no secret i dont like him very much
He a fake friend
RH wouldnt be the same without your rants guy
obnoxious to have a dev be like "HAHA LOL OUTLAW SUCKS" while he designs your broken undertuned non functioning tier set
Scarizard did balance at riot games
There's a reason why max asks people who play the classes for their input
and then just leave you on read because hes done being a useful idiot to blizzard
better nerf irelia
Guy finally knows what it’s like to get left on read
Gp and yasuo get a skin announcement for next week, same patch they get buffed
Now he gonna get a gym membership and collect the infinity goes
Classic riot
*hoes
bro jpc went out and said bad for all 3 

Infinity hoes 
cum
Thanks plode I was wondering what you thought


wtf
How is this not tos 
bro

Lmaooooooo
Yea I’ve seen that in my guilds discord a few times even shits everywhere
well ye in guild disc anything goes
so like
earth from bdgg is in my guild discord
because he used to be in it a few years back
and dekai was in my guild in sod
and i think he @ ed earth with it once

who the fugg is earth
you know someone a bumass when dekai 3 chins is more known than them
hes just a bdgg player
and you only know dekai because ur a rogue discorder
5 ad
He won the meme 
if you ever seen caitlyn you know 5 ad is real bro
Surely you know the 5 ad meme
I don’t
or 5 ms 
What it is
idk if its more specific than that
they removed the extra range on gwyn's E and her winrate tanked like 8%
small things can work
i mean
Yea gwen is no longer a champion cuz of that shit
range is op in toplane
Warrior junglers were destroying the meta in s5. Tank junglers were completely unviable because anyone who built warrior was just OP af. Community kept asking how they were gonna address it
Next patch notes
They literally deleted Gwyn from the game
-5 ad from warrior enchant
That e is literally the only thing that let her trade top and cs
yeah losing range on a top laner deletes them bro
And that was the patch note
Like the whole entire note
For a whole patch
5 ad
But he also did rework karma which was kinda pog so there was good and bad lol
He just gets flamed for 5 ad
i didnt play before the karma rework
And also the better nerf irelia meme
Dude I remember when irelia came out she was so broken that they nerfed her for like the next 20 patches in a row and she remained viable till this day better nerf irelia was such a good meme
Yeah iirc he was also the irelia meme
LOL
Every new champ is like that now tho
Ok he hella fucked up irelia balance then
I mean their balance philosophy is just flawed tbh
She dominated top so they nerfed her, then they nerfed her, then they nerfed her, it happened like 5 patches in a row they nerfed her over and over
ghostcrawler created the abomination of tbc/wotlk frost mage and then went to riot kek
And hes gonna make their mmo
Cuz they only try to balance around 50% win rates but the problem is that skill plays a factor on a lot of champions
Just look at Virgo’s shit win rates lol
Even after irelia was 'balanced' they nerfed her ass again and agaon
Viego
if you look at akali and ryze this isn't entirely true
ryze was at like 44%
and got nerfed
because pro play
Ryze is sub 40 now i think
I mean to be fair their balance is a lot better overall now I think
Down with zeri
yeah post nerf he's at like 39%
It depends on the champ but there’s definitely skill factors that fuck with their balancing outside of pro play
Next ryze rework please
Just look at current gp
Na fuxk Ryze bitch ass baldie
gp being buffed is a giant meme
oops that had a filter word in it
LOL
He's a comfort pick in pro tho
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Dude he’s ducking insane in lane and late game
There's a difference
Gp is always good in pro unless hes dumpster
Like I actually HATE playing against gps depending on the matchup that champ is ducking broken
he's not suffering in solo queue either
Gp is inherently broken because he scales but is also a ranged top laner
Ye good gps always win is an issue for aure
He’s good early he’s good weakside he scales well like wtf????
I mean
And he’s ranged
He definitely is in a lot of matchups
He outranges everyone
He abuses tanks early
And his range let’s him play safely in ones he’s not
But most gps are just fronting early
Call their bluff and you win most 1v1s against him
Unless you're a tank
I mean if you land passive auto your gonna clap most 1v1s tbh
Yeah true just cc him he'll die Clueless
Or like Akali
depends on the matchup really
But like most fighters you just beat his ass level 1
He only wins if you let him
You need to be on a champ thats good into range matchups
Yea but you not gonna all in if your a gp
But that's a lot of lanes
Unless you’re an ape lmao
You just spam grasp qs
Look for passive autos and use barrels to zone control
Ye but that's what I mean you can't let him bend you over. Easier said than done tho esp for some matchups
That's why when he has advantage it's super hard to play vs him and that is exactly why he's picked so much in pro
Yea if you get to counterick him it’s not too bad but then you can still die to ganks
Yea and most people who are good at him are 1 tricks which makes it harder for soloq also lol
Because he can play weak and chill or just outright win off of mistakes and force enemy team to play top or just lose
Solo q is just full of monkeys trying to play tdm and it feels real bad sometimes
Though when you get the non one trick gp it’s the easiest game ever
Literally run them over lol
Ye
i remember when LS was doing his MTG style champ themes gp was considered white or colorless or whatever because he pretty much does everything
He does he’s a busted ass champ lol
The two most useless colors in MtG 
That’s black
i cant remember which one it was
Na
I just think he should be weaker on weakside like he used to
white or colorless
White is literally just Zerg
You used to be able to dive his ass so easily
Artifacts are the most versatile
Or die
???????????? No
true, stay woke king
Now his weakside is way too strong especially with a global ult
You can put anything in any deck?
i think for what LS was considering black was like early power with sacrifice or something
pretty sure 5 ad memes was season 1/2 boomer shit from the 5 ad from igniting someone
Iirc LS's MTG analogies were whack
maybe a bit
Na
That seems a bit off ngl
but it was an interesting way of grouping champs and lanes
It was s5 warrior enchant on JG item
and like considering team comps
so even if the analogies werent perfect it served a purpose
and brought about some interesting discussion
It was a cool idea and I remember watching it but then being like uhhhhh idk about that cuz I am a closet MTG nerd

i have limited knowledge
L
Fat L
jealous
yuumi is a loser champ
I play all formats, mostly edh at this time, wasn’t getting into color identity rules
Played a lot@of modern and standard back in like 2018-2019
Still modern, but boomer jund.
So not really modern
I haven't played in awhile but Im always down for edh
i borrowed a friends deck and played once or twice
Ut oh my guy has links
I hate you
Wordle 301 6/6*
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I get too into it
I played a lot of yugioh when I was younger tho
I can only play in phases otherwise I spend way too much on it

Yea that’s why I don’t fuck with card games anymore shits a rip off

When I was a kid I’d steal yugioh packs from the grocery store like all the time tho
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It’s not if you temper yourself. Luckily I have an awesome and supportive s/o who reminds me it’s okay to spend money on hobbies sometime, but there’s such thing as too much 
That’s fair
I crave dopamine like oxygen lmao
I hate that you have eggs but I understand. And my for fun deck is a mizzix storm/combo so poggies it's kinda similar shell to yours
I have to be very attentive of things I enjoy or I can easily go too far lol
Nice! Yeah eggs is for Val because it’s simpler but intricate enough to be entertaining for me to play
I have like $200 in store credit chillin for when I want to make my yuriko deck
I assume it's the dumber eggs and not eggs from a few years ago
I guess modern eggs wasn't ever that bad really
Crack an egg
Ye
I saw some of the new ninjis and had to stop cuz if I actually look at what they have available now there's no way I won't build it and wanna play again
KCI eggs lol
Ofc
Let's see if the phone dictation gets that right,
Crack clan ironworks
That's close enough
I liked Yuriko but she got pretty 1 dimension for me. Top, put expensive card on top, fuck the table
Yeah that’s pretty good
Krark
KCI was hella fun ngl
My more comp deck is daretti lockout combo
Mine is korvold - Food chain Squee
And uhhhh I don't play it unless I know we're gaming
Same
People actually get pissed at it
Working a table with an OP deck isn’t fun
And rightfully so
I enjoy good games, If I just wanted to stomp people I’d just play 75 card games with consistency
I have my lab maniac eggs somewhere... Around...
Have you played the uhhhhh what is it
Hmmmm
Tiny leaders?
Oh brawl?
No
There’s like 29 new ones lol
The one with Planeswalker a and signiture spell
Yeeeeee
It’s 60
Oath breaker is fun I've only played it a handful of times
I threw together a cheap saheeli (the not banned one but the when you cast you make a servo) cantrip mashup deck
Oh the war of the spark one
Prolly sense that's around when I was playing
I built a Nissa who shakes the world + ramp deck and a tef3ri + counter spell deck
Neither went swimmingly
Lol
careful 
?
With like this shit in it
👮
Narset’s reversal 
That actually seems fun
It is from the games I've played it
I just wanted to make a burn/aggro in edh-like format since it doesn't work properly in big boy edh
And my fav deck theme is izzet tempo / burn
Burn works pretty well in EDH but you have to go really really really really big
It's just not very competitive
I mean you can blow tables up with it but it's more a combo yeah
I have comet storm win con in my mizzix
Buddy
As well as ignite memories
You literally just go gruul wort
Lol
And you’re murdering people
Bro there's no shot you're keeping that on the field for any meaningful amount of time
Unless it super casual
Buddy
Which anything can win there
It’s so easy to keep on
That deck just ramps and kills
That’s it
So even if it’s gone? Big whoop you have 6 billion mana
Doesn’t copy your burn spell, lacks synergy.
Thrasios is just a generic powerful commander
The trick to building powerful mid range decks is to look at niches
Vial smasher is kinda the closest I've seen to a decent 'burn' deck that can compete
But also there might be new stuff I haven't seen so
Burn is pretty hard to pull off ngl
It's just super hard to burn through 120 hp
You don't even need a commander that facilitates it you just need artifacts and some land to make things uncounterable and fork the damage
But that's not a lot of fun not having the commander take part
There’s a lot of Izzet-y burn dudes.
I mean you can obviously kill everyone with a burn spell with 69000 damage but I mean you can't make traditional burn decks
You can try to swing stuff like guttersnipe and cantrip people for a bunch but no shot it lives one full turn to kill
But like that's why I'm super down for yuriko cuz you can build it lots of different ways, one being a pseudo burn style
Has there been any good izzet commanders since mizzix that isn't jori en?
Oh ye locust God I forgot about him
I'm sure lots of people have made busted veyran stuff
Ugh can you guys make a Lost Ark thread or something
All of these have been busted 
I’m actually not sure what’s kosher on making an OT thread 
Lol I’m just giving you shit
At least there’s a solid handful of people playing magic
I mean to me there's a difference between just throwing any old izzet shell together with x izzet commander, and the commander actually having their own twist on the deck ya know
I do plan on getting into magic soon. My co workers are super into it
I too enjoy MTG as you can see I 100% nerd out about it
One is a judge or something on weekends
This is ALWAYS how it starts
Oh you mean a thematic commander ye
I thought you meant just strong
Yeeee like a mizzix deck is gonna be a lot different than a jori en or niv decj
Not sure why my ping just went off now about this, despite being on earlier. But I mean naw, I usually answer anything I get. ^^;
xD Yeah I mean I totally get it if our only community council member, Skip, did something like this.
But I try as much as I can to help, though I lurk more than comment lately.
our community council member that got a mute on wowhead 

@graceful thistle here’s a couple
There’s also two coin flipping combo commanders
That are neatish
Jeeze I need to try magic again
Yes man
Last time I played is when artifacts were first introduced, I think.

Or like Mirrodin?
I didn’t know Zera was 135

You guys know that made up game from Avatar? Pi sho or something
Yeah that’s based off magic

Nice

y'all played magic with paper? I remember when the first edition came out on papyrus
The only PI I show is to the fire mage
Lookin good tho ngl
Thanks papi
@worldly blade was around for mtg world championship IV live from pompei
he remembers
I mean
Yes, I'm old?

Zera is actually that dude who’s been petrified while jerking off
Found in Pompeii ruins

You know
Dude scapeshifted an entire civilization damn
93 tho
is the last time you played?
lmao hold this L boomer, I'll ratio you on twitter till you learn to pound sad and mald for free on my live bro you got the whole snap laughing
I mean
pound sad
Naw I'm 32
@lilac heath get got, idiot

But yeah like I legit remember when mirrodin was new
Literally Pompeii’s nemesis
That was what 2011?
That’s not that bad
WHENEVER A MOUNTAIN ENTERS THE BATTLEFIELD BRO WHAT
THESE MOUNTAINS GOT A CIVIC OR SOMETHING
2010, apparently, @clever sleet
Yeah, I mean I was a senior in high school 
As if it’s a fucking nba team
We’re the Minnesota mountains. Literally mountains tho no big deal

Like this stupid Iron Myr card icon is imprinted in my eyelids. xD
You just play it with that and kill people
And there was that one wall card.
Norn’s annex?
Hmmm
Or like an actual wall?
Damn I’m six years older than you??
are you 28?
In June yeah
I'm 23 in july
I’m only 29
Naw I think it was just straight-up steel wall or smth
I’m 30 in July
Wait same birthday?!
Wall of knives?
Yeop
21st yeh?
Actually lmao yeah
Oh literally steel wall lol
yeh
June 21
Wait
I remember this convo
Yeah literally
Summer solstice
same birthday but a month later
True
gemini gang
Leo
My birthday being the longest day of the year also checks out cause everyone should celebrate with me
Wait actually does not check out because living is pain
I started playing in mirroden
yeah it's weird my mom keeps repeating it like "you're a cancer, you're such a cancer", and I'm like yeah I know mom, that's my astrology sign why do you remind me multiple times a day I'm not gonna forget
I started playing in dominaria
I innocently built an infect deck not knowing the grief it would bring me
Just continued playing


Infect is a wild concept
Fuck life, here’s poison
Good set at least
Exsanguinate isn’t even that bad tbf
Yeah it’s a goat draft set
And then ravnica pt 3 followed
Great set to start in
Following year was a bit rough ngl. But idk this year they really looking good
Two great sets in a row. Decent stories leading up to phyrexian war pt II later this year
The only problem with that set was teferi

Really really hate that card
Someone forgot about goblin chain Whirler in mono red 
The saga of teferi
That was a pretty bad card as well but not so bad in a vacuum
Is more appropriate
Once rotation happened golgari was my jam
And has been since
The discovery deck was wild
Explore even
Golgari has been an awesome experiment and concept since;
Maybe a little earlier even
also fuck that card
I mean I like it as well but come on
Ravnica was lit
It was kind of wild to print a planeswalker at one CMC
They have certain cards that they know are pushed af
The problem is that once you put it in the world
People get to abuse it
Ragavan 
Who are better at the game than they are
Anyway, my actual point was going to be that ever since they released this card, they've had a very clear cut and unified concept on what that guild was going to be basically forever.
Idk okay design has a lot of banger players
From time to time they do
That’s true
On the golgari design
I mean they had Tom Ross forever
That dude is cracked
Grizzly salvage is such a dope card that basically anyone can look at it and know exactly what the entirety of that guild is about
Very cool
That is true, Tom Ross was employed by them for a shockingly long time
Reanimator as golgari is pretty banger
Love that
It helped flesh black out big time
Ofc
Undergrowth was a neat effect in GRN, wish they’d fleshed it out more
But like the reanimator theme as we know it
Like undergrowth giant is a good card
Just 7 mana and needs a critical mass of creatures
I like pure black as more sacrifice for power whereas golgari goes into the 'it seems like I'm inting but I'll use that later' vibe
My mono B deck is one of my favorites ngl
I was gonna say
I have always thought about doing a mono black edh deck but
It would be good?
Mono Black, blue, and green are all exceptionally powerful. Red can be, white tried.
I think some sagas got parts of it back but never the dredge part
White has gotten a ton of tools lately
Colorless prays 0 interaction
White is very slept on compared to how it used to be
Red has too
But it’s not enough.
Don’t get me wrong it’s far better off
But it’s still rough
I’m building an elesh norn deck rn for a challenge with my group
It's only really rough trying to play non-feather boros
Nah
My hofri deck is a blast
I just play everyone else’s deck
I’m usually arch enemy when I play it
But like point proven
Boros is so bad you choose to not play your own deck cuz you're better off 
Godo pops tf off from time to time though
Well my deck is designed to play others
godo isn't boros but to me he's boros
when i see brago they die first
It’s also meant to be the ultimate “idk what is going on with your deck, so I’m just gonna use him”
Because if all decks are bad, mine’s bad
If all decks good, mines good
I mean the play other people's decks theme is pretty fun
also very budget friendly for obvious reasons
Can lead to feel bads
Yeah I can drop 30 of 75 bucks off of two cards
No shock land and no altar of dementia
The budget aspect of edh is something i both love and hate
I mean enchantress is still a thing as well
Enchantress will never not be a thing tbh
I love budget
That was our past challenge before praetors
Commanders with under 1k decks and under 75 bucks
Saw some absolute sick decks
ye i uhhhhh
have gotten completely bent from a turn 2 time twister into a turn 3 win
and it's just like uhhhh ok well really who's the real winners here bud
Yeah that’s for the big table
But like
Played against this card I’d never heard of
So many good cards are Druids
Ye
But like that's the thing is that it wasn't even the 'big' table. Like dude just decided to play timetwister in a $5 buy in tourney
Gross
I actually love when people come with the deeeeeeeeeeep tech
Ezpz

Morning shenans 
Please no
Lol
what a good hunter
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