#Opinion on removal of leaderboards and state of the game

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serene ermine
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this is how wl and inf got assassinated lmao

main sand
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and yet he has that

shrewd moss
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Yes

main sand
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so

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can’t really take away a major part of his kit

warm fulcrum
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probably yeah

soft ivy
celest wasp
# main sand so

Yea him having too much is just kinda irrelevant is the thing

main sand
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he has caloric stone and adds stuff independently of using stone

sick glacier
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griffith without his auto maxing at falcon would be mid

celest wasp
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Because ur never hsing any of that

warm coyote
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death

sick glacier
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we cant just remove a units main viability feature and call them ass lmao

warm coyote
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yes we can

main sand
# warm coyote death

kamui why did ainz even get moved down on the tl

I looked on the Reddit and for some reason they’re all going after you bro 😭

warm coyote
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cid without his swaps are not meta

sick glacier
celest wasp
warm coyote
soft ivy
sick glacier
warm coyote
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im too lazy to thpe allat again

celest wasp
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Hes a 1 trick pony

main sand
warm coyote
soft ivy
sick glacier
warm coyote
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I have a headache

soft ivy
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there

main sand
celest wasp
sick glacier
soft ivy
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can u add more portals

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or ltm

celest wasp
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Making units that are bad in progs and meta in inf and then deleting inf is also just a genius strategy

soft ivy
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ive still got wrinkles on my brain

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sick glacier
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uhhh he doesnt do much if you magically dont bring good elements!!!!

soft ivy
sick glacier
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hes a measly 100k dmg 1k yen unit with summons if you bring 0 elements, why would you ever use that????

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that also takes up 0 slots

main sand
celest wasp
main sand
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it’s over lb rewards are gone

soft ivy
sick glacier
soft ivy
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celest wasp
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Yes hes a must bring but his own contribution to the team in most cases isnt gonna be significant besides the 11k dps

soft ivy
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and when the game died the only players left were the comp players

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(like half of them)

warm fulcrum
celest wasp
warm fulcrum
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mainly despair

warm coyote
sick glacier
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dude, that requires bringing 2 WHOLE curse units, or 1 curse unit and an unknown, who would EVER do that ever??? its not like theres a curse unit in the top 3 as we speak

warm coyote
soft ivy
mental robin
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🥹

sick glacier
soft ivy
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make a "GOD SUPPORT" tier omg thats freakin tough

celest wasp
celest wasp
warm fulcrum
celest wasp
sick glacier
celest wasp
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Im not waveskipping on bumass story man have fun doing that

sick glacier
sick glacier
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cause the walls there 24/7 insta killing the enemies

main sand
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I’m very confused why ainz doing “only 11k dps” is an issue

if he’s only doing 11k dps, and you use caloric stone to get a unit you would’ve brought instead of ainz

doesn’t that mean you have 11k more dps than you would’ve before? not including his summons or utility?

sick glacier
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and you place him down wave 2

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unlike broly the wave 4 demon

warm fulcrum
celest wasp
soft ivy
soft ivy
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and he isnt feeling that itch

sick glacier
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11k dps with summons, for 1k yen, at the WORST case scenario ever

celest wasp
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Im not gonna take waveskipping into account because by that logic vsjw would be way higher solely because he can clear stages faster

sick glacier
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thats enough of a reason for ainz to be above broly

warm fulcrum
celest wasp
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"He doesnt take a unit slot" sure but his only use is the 11k dps and thats all

warm fulcrum
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idk in the end the top of the tierlist is kinda meaningless, everything upper meta solos the game anyways, for harder modes u want specific combos of different units so tierlist means nothing

celest wasp
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That doesnt make him the best prog cardy

sick glacier
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I dont use broly for plenty of modes, I use ainz for all modes

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theres 0 modes where you dont wanna bring ainz

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there will be situations where you wont wanna bring broly

celest wasp
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Same reason why speed and taka arent top 1, being brought everywhere doesnt make u the best, i get that outlook

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Ainzs value in most cases is early game dps

sick glacier
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or ani act 9/modes with alot of income

celest wasp
sick glacier
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yeah they are now

celest wasp
sick glacier
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but thats still situations you wont bring them in

celest wasp
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Speed and taka are brought in tl tourneys pretty often too

sick glacier
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there is still 0 situation you wont bring ainz in

celest wasp
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Broly is also always brought in tourneys unless hes banned

sick glacier
warm fulcrum
celest wasp
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If the only criteria for top placement is "usage" then just place kaguya top 1 because shes used for challenge and bounty afks

warm fulcrum
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fall infinite...

sick glacier
daring star
warm fulcrum
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atp place escanor t1 cuz hes the most braindead

soft ivy
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can u place units if they’re banned in tournaments with caloric stone or nah

sick glacier
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if ainz isnt t1, no unit deserves to be t1

sick glacier
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you will LITERALLY, NEVER have a reason NOT to bring ainz

soft ivy
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wb rummie or jailer

celest wasp
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A unit that isnt even being clicked on after placement and caloric in 99% of content shouldnt be top 1

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Dont worry bud 1 of the 3 legend stage bosses will have 30 shields

daring star
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simple as that

sick glacier
daring star
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i’d rather bring escanor

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infact i’d rather bring gohan and lagshooter over ainz

serene ermine
daring star
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put them t1

daring star
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than bubbled

serene ermine
serene ermine
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kamuiii

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u little liarr..

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cmonnn

daring star
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almost instant but not instant enough yk

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doesn’t matter again

fluid echo
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Wat is dis place

warm fulcrum
fluid echo
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Figured

serene ermine
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yo you can also um use the

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guards

warm fulcrum
serene ermine
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the skull guards

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if u have sukuna and hk

fluid echo
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Cuz I ain’t reading allat

soft ivy
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vangaurds vs skeletons 😍

fluid echo
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If void agrees I agree

soft ivy
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another ltm

fluid echo
daring star
warm fulcrum
echo obsidian
warm fulcrum
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ok maybe i should go answer some questions

vivid niche
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i am curious... was there a poll or anything in this server to decide if people were for or against the competitive modes being kept?

soft ivy
soft ivy
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av "comp"

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however u wanna call it

rugged vine
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CCGuards

vivid niche
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it seems too big of a thing to decide on based on the inputs from a bunch of comp players, granted yes, they might be pros but still there are other people who should have a say in it too

soft ivy
rugged vine
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Comp players in gaming deciding stuff ive never seen that not work !

sick glacier
vivid niche
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welp

soft ivy
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it wasnt even an hour after LOLOL

sick glacier
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im banned from the server so I cant check how the poll is rn

vivid niche
warm fulcrum
vivid niche
soft ivy
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Delete Infinite Leaderboard

33 votes
6%
Delete Worldlines Leaderboard

52 votes
9%
Delete Both

186 votes
33%
Delete Neither

291 votes
52%

severe sierra
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yade yade, stop this, i’ve decided that i will NOT be bringing back leaderboards and that is final!

celest wasp
vivid niche
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i would rather remove pvp over them ngl 💀

warm fulcrum
tall coral
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guessing they wont make a special last lb reward it will be choy 🥀

soft ivy
soft ivy
rapid glacier
ripe inlet
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Or instead we can add more slop updates and uncreative devs!

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Actually I don't think it's happening it's small but never zero, Honestly Them not even optimizing the game for the devices such as mobile or low/mid end PC's says it all

dusk ridge
warm fulcrum
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Bump

warm fulcrum
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bump

warm fulcrum
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bump

fast barn
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Hi lol

warm fulcrum
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Sorry

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Uncalled for

warm fulcrum
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bump

grizzled pivot
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bump

wild ferry
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bring back av lb 😭

grand sluice
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We need av lb 🥹

twin plover
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i dont think removing tourneys is a bad thing

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atleast they can buff exclusive vanguard familiars

warm fulcrum
viral bison
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Lwky maybe they r planning on adding a new endgame mechanics similar to lb

crude moth
viral bison
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Bec removing lb without an actual reason is so dumb its like killing them self

crude moth
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They have not

crude moth
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They could just add units etc and leave out endgame

viral bison
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Oh pls av cant be THAT dumb 😭

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Right?🥀

crude moth
grand sluice
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But the devs don't care about late game players cuz we're the minority

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I've been playing since release and tbh this is heartbreaking seeing one of my favorite games die like this

viral bison
twin plover
twin plover
# serene ermine what

they said that exclusive vanguard familiars are weak becuse in tourney they whould be unfair

viral bison
warm fulcrum
undone bridge
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why are they complaining about taking less than a week for an lb skin when they only have to do it every 2 seasons

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every 2 seasons is like 3 and a half months btw

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and they are complaining about that 😭

grand sluice
grand sluice
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You get good units for what?

viral bison
worldly sparrow
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and sometimes doing bare minimum is too much for them unfortunate

grand sluice
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Lwk y'all gotta check out #1452199903106306098

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It's a bit of a troll post but ts is what's actually gonna happen in the future

worldly sparrow
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u might be onto stm

worldly inlet
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Too much word to read can some1 explain what he even said to me

worldly inlet
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Void

grand sluice
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Where

worldly inlet
grand sluice
tall coral
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trying to think they would even replace inf lb for if they hate comp i also wounder how will guilds turn out if they dont want comp

worldly inlet
tall coral
grand sluice
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Plus more work for them

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They can't even spend a few days to make a skin that will last for 3-4 months

tall coral
warm fulcrum
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bump

warm fulcrum
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Bump

warm fulcrum
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Bump

serene ermine
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what would you rather do more

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death

onyx epoch
viral bison
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Bump

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Bump

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Bump

grand sluice
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Bump

warm fulcrum
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Bump

grand sluice
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Bump

warm fulcrum
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bump

warm fulcrum
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bump

warm fulcrum
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bump

warm fulcrum
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bump

shrewd moss
warm fulcrum
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i starred urs too caught

grand sluice
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So were not gonna talk about #1452199903106306098

shrewd moss
grand sluice
shrewd moss
grand sluice
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Two monarchs for what T^T to speed up ur m#cro

shrewd moss
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😡😡😡

grand sluice
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I meant restarted

shrewd moss
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This unacceptable in our slop game

grand sluice
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Like yk

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They should do it again

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Uh huh

shrewd moss
grand sluice
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Nuh

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U forget about rolling monarch rares and epics

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Monarch takorada

warm fulcrum
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bump

warm fulcrum
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bump

warm fulcrum
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bump

severe sierra
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devs do not care bro it’s alr set in stone give it up 😭

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u of all ppl should know this already

vivid niche
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fr more slop incoming ig

waxen karma
heady marsh
warm fulcrum
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Bump

warm fulcrum
warm fulcrum
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scores r free rn so prolly

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😭 sry already overflowing with people

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doesnt mean theyre runnin with u tsinsanevro

crude moth
warm fulcrum
warm fulcrum
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bump

warm fulcrum
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bump

shut briar
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w suggestion

warm fulcrum
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bump

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yay 100 stars

warm fulcrum
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bump

warm fulcrum
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bump

wind marsh
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I agree with this suggestion, large percentage of the players neglected inf lb cause there mindset are like get monarch on the most op unit in the update and call it a day

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Praying this voice reached out to the Devs regardless if the stone have been set

warm fulcrum
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bump

warm fulcrum
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Bump

warm fulcrum
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Bump

warm fulcrum
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Bump

warm fulcrum
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bump

warm fulcrum
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bump

upbeat crescent
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Holy w

stark niche
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W suggestion, the devs are just lazy asf removing the main endgame content. Towers isn't a good enough substitute as some elements are deadass impossible like unknown

warm fulcrum
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Bump

warm fulcrum
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bump

warm fulcrum
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bump

fossil igloo
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!!cid

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oops

warm fulcrum
warm fulcrum
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bump

grizzled pivot
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even if we get LB back balancing is gonna be so cooked 😭 were about to get ALS power creep

worldly sparrow
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all that to add worse paragon version back gz brain

warm fulcrum
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Bump

grizzled pivot
warm fulcrum
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bump

daring reef
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Spam His Ability Till You Get 1bn Damage

cunning pulsar
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Anyone doin a bil dmg in sandbox😭

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Maybe even a tril

daring reef
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Yeah That's Beside The Point Anyways

cunning pulsar
daring reef
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I Was Just Continuing The Joke

cunning pulsar
serene ermine
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it has some of the same issues as paragon just less of then

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them*

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cant find ppl on same floor

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but now instead of needing to be at the higher floors

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u acc get 3k gems on all floors

daring reef
shrewd moss
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stark niche
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You have to pray for a good map

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And the rewards don't even increase after floor 50????

worldly sparrow
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Its more rng as well

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Modifiers dont work as well

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Even worse than paragon

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Not that i mind in 1st place modifiers arent nessesary on those gamemodes

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Rewards not scaling w floors make it not rly worth to climb

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Also 100 rrs for f100 in 2026 xdd

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When i have 12k rrs for sure i care

worldly sparrow
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god birb is worth less than diavolo as well

stark niche
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Like 120%+ birb can get u diavolo

worldly sparrow
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probably not

warm fulcrum
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Relative to what was out at the time paragon was a better mode

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They’ve barely innovated at all

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So now it feels worse to play

daring reef
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The Paragon Conqueror Title Looks Too Cool Too

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I Remember I Hated Paragon Because I Couldn't Get Sasuke To Break Shields Iirc

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So I Stacked On Regens Instead

warm fulcrum
daring reef
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I Don't Have Autocorrect

warm fulcrum
nimble iron
daring reef
warm fulcrum
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Bump

serene ermine
warm fulcrum
serene ermine
warm fulcrum
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bump

warm fulcrum
inner nymph
grizzled pivot
warm fulcrum
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Bump

warm fulcrum
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Bump

serene ermine
grizzled pivot
warm fulcrum
serene ermine
warm fulcrum
serene ermine
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on pc it said there was nothing

warm fulcrum
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bump

still knot
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game is just pointless to play now idiot

warm fulcrum
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Bump

daring reef
warm fulcrum
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Bump

fleet snow
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bump

wise tide
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A whole year late🤣 but still, traits arent a big issue minor rng as devs are generous with rr's at most 1 player might run 3 monarchs on their team and thats only 1 of 4 players who needs that many monarchs, stats are a non issue as z+ is sufficient and thats super easy to get, familiars are also slight rng only matters if you're going for top 1 minmax as you can m#cr0 birbs, griff isnt even used for lb

warm fulcrum
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Bump

fleet snow
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Bump

warm fulcrum
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The only rng now is griff summons

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U can trade for fams

sick glacier
# warm fulcrum U can trade for fams

trading doesnt solve it cause what am I gonna trade thats worth a 100+ birb? bundles would be p2w, which I aint doing for a comp mode, rare units take months to become tradeable and might not even be worth good birbs by the time they're tradeable, so why waste time farming for them (not to mention they're rng themselves, so still makes familiars rng), theres really nothing you can farm that'll get you 100+ birbs that isnt rng to farm in the first place

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but anyways my main point was that some rng is good and healthy for a comp gamemode, but the amount that av currently has (mainly due to birbs) is too much

main sand
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I’m assuming our endgame content is towers btw

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they replaced lbs with that

fleet snow
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Buns endgame content

wise tide
main sand
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I agree it’s horrendous but they call it hard content sooo

sick glacier
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god bless av devs 🔥

fleet snow
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So they're going for the ALS approach

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Wooo....

wise tide
sick glacier
fleet snow
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Power creep every fucking unit

wise tide
main sand
wise tide
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i love av 😍 i hope it never dies like aa

fleet snow
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Can we just turn av into dokkan?

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Somehow dokkan takes more feedback from their community icl

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At least they've fixed the friend system and world tournament

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And not

wise tide
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xD

fleet snow
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Blatantly lie about competitive player opinions

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1 hour into a 24(?) hour poll

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And they decide

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Yup

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That's enough

main sand
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why would they think kamui polling in a seperate discord would dictate decision

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even if the result was the same they should’ve either told them or polled all of us

sick glacier
main sand
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since I didn’t even know that discord even existed

fleet snow
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What about the guilds section thats been in the game since

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Uhhhh

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How long has it been?

main sand
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they’ve also done terrible polls in the past, great example being that Sasuke + Tengen’s VFs were picked in arguably rigged polls exclusive to only testers

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for example, sasuke was picked between Akaza, Sasuke, and Okarun by only testers

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valk even admitted okarun was a joke pick, and Akaza hasn’t even been on a public poll

wise tide
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tbf akaza or okarun was not gonna win

main sand
sick glacier
fleet snow
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Yep

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0 bias

wise tide
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im rightless

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i have no rights

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click my link twin

warm fulcrum
fleet snow
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Still love the fact that they made infinite units just to tell us to go fuck ourselves for tryna use them

warm fulcrum
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there was always some tech or smth that made it sorta irrelevant

warm fulcrum
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finally they fix up all the bugs and lag with it

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and now they remove lbs

fleet snow
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Atp remove odyssey and PvP, too much pressure

warm fulcrum
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🥀

fleet snow
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Boss rush and rift and raids too

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Oh, don't forget about story mode

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Can't have you feeling pressured to do these things!

cunning pulsar
warm fulcrum
cunning pulsar
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Bruu

warm fulcrum
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actually havent tried this week

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but they in code freeze so doubt its fixed

cunning pulsar
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Yhh

stark niche
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Still waiting for that vf for gogeta

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Got 2nd highest in the exclusive vf poll for nothing

honest pine
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not like anything else in there was worth anything

stark niche
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They should js make a vf for him

honest pine
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ah yes
make a VF for a unit that like a small fraction of the community has

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without rerunning the character itself

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base gogeta barely had any value

stark niche
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You acting like he wasn't obtainable for 6 months

honest pine
stark niche
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Then what's wrong with him getting a vf?

honest pine
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He's unobtainable

stark niche
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Gilgamesh is unobtainable and he got one