help-booth

[bright iris]

O

[lilac pagoda]

Its not letting me get the free codes even tho im following brawlhalla on twitch

Do i have to follow them off the browser?

[vagrant atlas]

can anyone tell me how to fix EAC error i have been getting for weeks or month and i thought it will be fixed in this patch but didnt

"Failed to initialize the game launcher"

[hybrid elm]

try reinstalling the game...

[vagrant atlas]

done many times

verified integrity as well many times

nothing worked

[hybrid elm]

delete your cache folder

[vagrant atlas]

?

which one u mean

?

[hybrid elm]

1sec

[vagrant atlas]

k

[carmine bay]

%eac

[kindred lava]

After many rounds of testing, Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC) will now be enabled on Steam and enforced in ranked and tournament lobbies. Players who do not want to use EAC can still disable it with the -noeac launch parameter and can play custom matches or non-ranked game modes.

• https://www.brawlhalla.com/news/five-new-challengers-appear-in-brawlhalla-x-street-fighter-part-2-patch-6-07/

If you're encountering errors with EAC, some fixes have been listed here: #help-booth message
If none of these solve your issue, please visit https://brawlhalla.com/support for further assistance.

[vagrant atlas]

run cmd ?

[hybrid elm]

https://thedroidguy.com/brawlhalla-keeps-crashing-1154407

check out thatthread

[carmine bay]

Did you not read what it said at all…

[vagrant atlas]

...

bro %eac where

[hybrid elm]

dont eac

[vagrant atlas]

@carmine bay

[carmine bay]

Y-

[carmine bay]

Read this

[vagrant atlas]

ok

yea but i want to play ranked na

i have been playing unranked for like years

with -noeac

:<

[carmine bay]

Then do this #help-booth message

[vagrant atlas]

ok thx bro

[covert dock]

can yall buy the battlepass?

[vagrant atlas]

.. no

[covert dock]

what s the issue

[carmine bay]

Try reinstalling the game and if that doesn’t work then watch the updates they’ll give back on Twitter

[covert dock]

it says its free but i cant purchase it lmao

bmg bamboozled us

[carmine bay]

What…

They’ve never said the bp would be free

[plucky kettle]

gaunt asgard legend?

[plucky kettle]

i just purchased it lmao

[toxic raven]

Does the prime gaming codes expire

?

[covert dock]

How do I beat lance legends that spam side heavy

[tender haven]

bait them and punish

[tender haven]

no

[toxic raven]

Ok thx

[covert dock]

Every time i try that, the move sends them so foward they have enough time to react

[tender haven]

they still have to go though 0,5 sec of rec time

[graceful perch]

This has probably been asked before, but what are the asgardian legends?

[tender haven]

is it a bp mission, if so from what week?

[graceful perch]

The first week of the current bp

[tender haven]

%bpm 1

[rare lark]

_ _

Battle Pass Missions for Week 1

The Battle Pass ends in <t:1671613200:R>. This Week's missions are already available.
For help on completing this week's missions, please refer to this community wiki page: https://brawlhalla.fandom.com/wiki/Strategy/Completing_Season_One_Classic_Missions#Week_1

[04] Win matches as Asgardian Legends (/3) 📝 These are Legends that were born in Asgard and did not arrive from another plane. | Win matches as Asgardian Legends: Orion, Brynn, Ulgrim, Kor, Thor
[06] Spear KOs (/8)
[08] Catch fresh Items before they hit the ground (/15) 📝 Both Gadgets and Weapons count. Must be picked up after spawning but before touching the ground. Weapons carried by Sidekicks do not count.
[10] Gauntlet Legend wins (/15)
[10] Get KOs with Gravity-Canceled Attacks (/10) 📝 To Gravity-Cancel an Attack, perform a neutral Dodge in the air and perform an Attack during the Dodge.
[10] Hit multiple opponents with a single Gadget (/10) 📝 Hitting the same opponent multiple times with the same Gadget does not count.
[12] Orb Damage (/4000)
[03] BONUS: Complete Missions for Week 1 (/4)

[tender haven]

orion brynn ulgrim kor and thor

[graceful perch]

Thanks

[tender haven]

np

[covert dock]

I spend that half second trying to reach them

[tender haven]

if you can't reach them in 0,5 sec you wouldn't be hit by it

[covert dock]

Do you ever jump to dodge their attacks @tender haven

[tender haven]

yeah that's the best thing to do when they do a side sig

gives you more time to punish

[fierce dust]

how can i uncap fps? framefix doesnt work anymore after update

[tardy sierra]

select the techtest from the betas
that'll uncap to your refresh rate

to go further, -framefixunbounded -unlockfps

if you want to cap at say, 69, -framefixunbounded -setfps 69

[fierce dust]

@tardy sierra its still capped for some odd reason

at 144 to be exact

[tardy sierra]

did you do the -framefixunbounded -unlockfps?

Anyways more fps isn't strictly better. infact having fluctuations can be bad.
capping at 144 is often better

[covert dock]

are the servers down

im offline

[limber cedar]

which are asgardian legends

[solemn wraith]

%asgardian

[kindred lava]

Win matches as Asgardian Legends: Orion, Brynn, Ulgrim, Kor, Thor

[fierce dust]

uncapping lowers input lag

aka faster response times

so its better overall

[tardy sierra]

not by itself
it's more complex then that and more related to your refresh rate

but -framefixunbounded by itself has 2 types of performance improvements so, h

[steep lynx]

Are you mistakenly on framefix not framefixunbounded? Unbounded uncaps FPS, also make sure you're on the techtest

Remove any setfps just use unbounded and techtest

[solemn wraith]

I went to go get bread and butter but forgot the butter is it worth going back to the shop for it

[tardy sierra]

yes

[solemn wraith]

But there was a big queue

[bright iris]

%bpm 2

[rare lark]

_ _

Battle Pass Missions for Week 2

The Battle Pass ends in <t:1671613200:R>. This Week's missions will be available in <t:1664960400:R>.
For help on completing this week's missions, please refer to this community wiki page: https://brawlhalla.fandom.com/wiki/Strategy/Completing_Season_One_Classic_Missions#Week_2

[06] Perform Forward Dashes (/150)
[06] Perform Back Dashes (/25)
[06] Cannon KOs (/8)
[08] Win matches with the current Battle Pass Color Scheme (/20)
[10] Blasters Legend wins (/15)
[12] Axe Damage (/4000)
[12] Signature Attack damage (/8000) 📝 Signature Attacks are the unique Heavy Attacks that Legends use with each Weapon. Unarmed Heavy Attacks do not count.
[03] BONUS: Complete Missions for Week 2 (/4)

[bright iris]

what is a forward dash ;--;

L english

[solemn wraith]

a dash going forward

[bright iris]

oh breeh

[solemn wraith]

scuffed but it loosk like this

[bright iris]

oh lol

I never do that, only dash jump xd

[solemn wraith]

go into a game and spam dashing everywhere itl take 1 game to do fully

[bright iris]

SHEESH

[solemn wraith]

it doesnt take that long to get used to

[bright iris]

mmmmm

what about that ko 1v1 before 50 total damage, is that hard?

[solemn wraith]

i dont understand what you mean, dashing into a ko?

[bright iris]

no no the last quest from week 8

[bright iris]

this

[solemn wraith]

just gimp someone ig

[bright iris]

xd

not that easy sheesh

[solemn wraith]

[bright iris]

but yeah I think every quest is just about to go ffa and spam Orion

[solemn wraith]

usually is

[bright iris]

"perform team combos" 💀

are we allowed to hit just a neutral twice

[solemn wraith]

team combos count if the 'oponent is in stun from a teammates hit'

[bright iris]

then... I just need to go 2v2 and attack normally ;_;

wait no, my teammate

[solemn wraith]

get ur friend to spam blasters nlight and you spam teros nsig and do the swirft infinite combo

[bright iris]

O

[covert dock]

how do i connect to the servers

[solemn wraith]

spam the play button

[covert dock]

wont work

[solemn wraith]

restart ur device

[covert dock]

I got rewards of first bettle pass

rn

[solemn wraith]

can i help you ?

is there a problem ?

[solemn wraith]

if you have something to say, say it here

[hollow sparrow]

i bought the season 1 battle pass when it came out,do i still need to buy it again?

[solemn wraith]

no

[teal vapor]

yoyoyo, yesterday i couldn't buy the battlepass, did they fix the issue? (im not home)

[twilit thunder]

yes

[solemn wraith]

yes

[scarlet fiber]

How do you set prematch lobby from ffa to bot

[static urchin]

how do i get the items back? i bought it from my cousin's ps4 and now i cant use it in my ps5

[edgy wasp]

Settings > preference

[scarlet fiber]

on mobile

[edgy wasp]

so what

[edgy wasp]

💀

[solemn wraith]

its not on mobile

its not there on my ipad or my android

[scarlet fiber]

Alr

[tardy sierra]

weird. they didn't specify it's not on mobile

[lethal herald]

Whats chest rotation today ?

[solemn wraith]

sunken and ancient

[dire jackal]

I have a battle pass mission I don't understand 2 can you help me

pls

[solemn wraith]

What do you need help with
Just ask what you need, you don't have to ask to ask

[dire jackal]

pls

[ruby plinth]

What is it?

[small jolt]

Which are the Asgardian legends?

[solemn wraith]

%asgardian

[kindred lava]

Win matches as Asgardian Legends: Orion, Brynn, Ulgrim, Kor, Thor

[covert dock]

@foggy violet احا ليش بلكتني🙂

[covert dock]

...... انجلش بس يسطا مينفعش العربى لحسن يطردوك

[solemn wraith]

english only

[covert dock]

Thats what i said

[broken parcel]

Do you have to jump after a Nlight to perform aerial comboes with scythe? Because it's quite inconsistent for me

[steep lynx]

yes, you dont leave the ground with scythe nlight

[broken parcel]

I meant aerial comboes as in nair/sair

Do I jump after the nlight or just queue their inputs

[steep lynx]

yes you'd do nlight > jump sair > nair > jump sair > nair > etc

[broken parcel]

I still can't figure out nair hitboxes

They're very small

[steep lynx]

as long as you hold the forward directions towards your opponent it should hit fine after sair as long as they're not orange damage or higher

if you have aim up and jump separated on different keys its easier since you just hold left/right and aim up for nair then let go off aim up for sair

[broken parcel]

Controller 🤢

[steep lynx]

yea never tried controller but its no better or worse than keyboard just gotta move towards them and do the right attacks

[broken parcel]

Anyways thanks, as of now I can only chain nair and rec/sair and rec, but I can see improvement

Scythe is very fun

Dair is much easier but it ain't easy to chain up attacks with it

[steep lynx]

ye it just takes come practise it can help if you just mess around in training mode stringing the bot and seeing what follow ups work

since yesterday you can put training mode on in queues now (settings > preferences) if you get bored in training mode

[heady latch]

Does your rank determine on wins or stocks or how fast you finish the game?

[solemn wraith]

no

[heady latch]

?

What is it determined off of then

[solemn wraith]

the speed and the playstyle of both players

if both players are heavily passive then the match is going to last for longer

[tardy sierra]

your rank is determined by your elo

[solemn wraith]

the length of the match doesnt get determined by the rank

it depends on how fast both players are able to take stocks

[heady latch]

Just asking since now you have to play 10 games to determine your rank

[tardy sierra]

your performance relative to your opponents' is what will affect your placement

[heady latch]

Ok ty

[bronze flame]

where did the bot gO

[covert dock]

Any new launch options for connection

[solemn wraith]

nope

[covert dock]

I thought they had something to check input lag

really wanted it

[solemn wraith]

the connection exit lag thing is already in the game and you dont have to enable anything

[covert dock]

tro see my timing of input

[steep lynx]

no, they added some routing changes for windows users in the newest patch which can be disabled by typing /NETWORKNEXTDISABLE in the ingame chat or enabled via /NETWORKNEXTENABLE , its enabled by default though

[steep lynx]

thats for nvidia supported monitors only

[covert dock]

oh nvm hey you think upgrading to a 144hz improves input

[steep lynx]

oh god damn it stupid filter

[covert dock]

im 1500 elo

[bronze flame]

i didnt know that i can disable it, thank god that i can

[steep lynx]

its not because of the monitors, pros have top 8ed with 60hz

[covert dock]

true jus thinking how i can improve my performance competively

[steep lynx]

get better

[bronze flame]

to get to plat just

find a gimmick and abuse it

[tribal whale]

True

[carmine bay]

Abuse meta

Play hyper aggro

Or play ultra passive

[ruby plinth]

is gc dlight reverse nair still true on gaunts?

[solemn wraith]

yes

[carmine bay]

Yes

[solemn wraith]

always has been

[bronze marsh]

how are to am i improve input

[carmine bay]

What…

[solemn wraith]

practice it perfect do make

[karmic ocean]

How to play against spear?

[proud plover]

#looking-for-game

[carmine bay]

Don’t jump non stop and out space the nlight

Then just punish after that

[broken parcel]

What's gc?

[ruby plinth]

gravity cancel

still havent hit it btw im pretty sure im just ass

[carmine bay]

Gc dlight chase dodge nair

[ruby plinth]

reverse nair

[carmine bay]

Then chase dodge reverse nair

[ruby plinth]

yea Idk how and I cant find a good guide

[carmine bay]

Because when you gc it it’s super easy

So nobody should have to make a guide

[ruby plinth]

ok

[broken parcel]

He really indirectly told you it's a skill issue 😭

[shadow pebble]

can i get border in duo rank?

[fluid shale]

yes

[dusty ether]

been a few days now and I'm not added to the Brawlmance list

1880 ELO
Level 95 Dusk

Why am I not on the world rankings for Dusk

[stark swan]

i'm not entirely sure how the rankings work but i've often not showed up on them too

i don't know how to fix that issue but you don't need it to show on the leaderboard for you to know that you should in fact be at that ranking

my only suggestion is to play ranked and see if that causes the API to update your user

[carmine bay]

What’s your name?

[dusty ether]

Boost

[dusty ether]

I hate playing ranked but I played an extra 7 games anyways.

so I have a total of 10 games played so far

[stark swan]

see if that does the trick

[dusty ether]

didn't

I'll wait till tmrw

[stoic burrow]

Hello there, can you help me with this?
How can I run Easy anti-cheat?
If I disable it I can play, but I can´t play ranked
If I enable it, I can´t run the game. "Easy anti-cheat error. Failed to initialize the game launcher"

[stoic burrow]

+I have windows 10 x64 installed, also updated

[dusty ether]

try searching for "Easy Anti" in this channel through the search bar

you'll find this question asked over a million times and you'll find various solutions answered for that might work for u

[zinc snow]

%eac -u501515889951244318

[kindred lava]

:x: Not enough arguments provided in command %eac -u501515889951244318

[zinc snow]

%eac -u 501515889951244318

[kindred lava]

@stoic burrow

After many rounds of testing, Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC) will now be enabled on Steam and enforced in ranked and tournament lobbies. Players who do not want to use EAC can still disable it with the -noeac launch parameter and can play custom matches or non-ranked game modes.

• https://www.brawlhalla.com/news/five-new-challengers-appear-in-brawlhalla-x-street-fighter-part-2-patch-6-07/

If you're encountering errors with EAC, some fixes have been listed here: #help-booth message
If none of these solve your issue, please visit https://brawlhalla.com/support for further assistance.

[stark swan]

does anybody know the specifics around what's considered cheating in brawlhalla? would like to know what's considered a fair or unfair advantage

[solemn wraith]

That entire thing was filtered

That's awesome but it's also a rule 4 so whatever

[stark swan]

well ye obviously 3rd party programs used to modify the game is cheating

but i mean things that aren't explicitly cheating

e.g. would it be acceptable to keep notes that tell you when specific attacks can KO

or would that be deemed an unfair advantage

[solemn wraith]

That would be fair because every player has access to that info

That wouldn't be an unfair one neceserily because the opponent could do that aswell, the info is open

[stark swan]

so hypothetically if a background mod contained that sort of info it would be fair right

since background mods are legal

[solemn wraith]

Background mods are legal, and if the info is open then yeah

It would probably not be liked by bmg tho

In theory it's legal

[stark swan]

okay but what if the background were to be modified to show the exact positioning to land tech.

that's kind of what i wanted to get to

at what point does the info become something that players don't normally have access to

[solemn wraith]

Probably another grey area that could be abused

I remember thinking about this years ago with the colour jump mod

[stark swan]

yeah because the colour jump mod is banned yet there's nothing against modding backgrounds

so it would be nice to know at what point something becomes an unfair advantage

the rules on start.gg literally just say "Cheating is strictly prohibited." they don't specify what is considered cheating anywhere

[solemn wraith]

Hm

[stark swan]

that's kinda why i was wondering if bmg said anything at any point around what is considered a cheat and what is considered fair

[solemn wraith]

A quick search and nothing on smash.gg or bmg says what's ruled out

Ig it's legal but it is an advantage

[silk lynx]

which asgardian weapons are obtainable at this moment?

[solemn wraith]

blasters and scythe and maybe katars iirc

if you mean the gifts of asgard ^

[steep lynx]

That's fair game, they've not explicitly said anything against backgrounds like that and honestly I don't think something like that would make much of an advantage. You also lose that ability on lan, like when the jump mod came out some pros didn't bother using it because it would have been bad to become reliant on it just to not have it at lan

I don't think using a bg like that would cause them to take action against bg mods, but there's always the chance they would see that as an unfair advantage, and in that case it would ruin bg mods for everyone else by trying it in the first place, and while it might not solicit a ban because bg mods were allowed they could still reserve the right to ban the person using a mod like that

In the end stuff like kill% colours and tech setup locations can just be learnt and remembered and that's probably the best way to go about it.

Notes like on literal paper (maybe notes about your opponent because you've scouted them out) are definitely fine I don't see any world where that would be considered cheating or an unfair advantage. Most other eSports pros actually bring notes even to the computers with them to read midgame, I follow counterstrikes pro scene and you'll frequently see all the top teams reading notes before the game and that game even has a coach to talk to them in timeouts.

Brawlhalla hasn't become as competitive as that yet but in previous official lans I've seen people have come up to talk to the player in-between games in a set to give advice/whatever and the devs haven't been opposed to that either

[dusty cove]

you can use more than one client one lan now

they used a private tourney branch for msi that had actual lan not just local play on a single machine

[steep lynx]

Ahh okay less scuffed than the old LANs then

But I don't think you'd get a chance to install your bg mod on lan

[dusty cove]

they did

foda said that was one of the advantages of true

if someone wants to use blurred or greyscale backgrounds

[steep lynx]

Fair enough

[dusty cove]

also accessibility

[steep lynx]

I still think smth like that kinda bg should be verified with a dev first

[dusty cove]

well you said it
its not that big of an advantage

spawns ingame arent very exact anyway and you could memorise or just get a feel for their locations

like i learnt 80% of what i know about spawns in 1 weekend by playing botw 1v1 showdown

also youd have to use fixed camera for the modded bgs to work which is a big handicap

now if it was on a platform asset/mapart that would be a lot more usable but now its not tourney legal

[limber cedar]

how do i hit multiple players with a single gadget

[lusty jetty]

Someone plz help me . I am getting easy anti cheat errors when I launch the game

[bronze flame]

After many rounds of testing, Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC) will now be enabled on Steam and enforced in ranked and tournament lobbies. Players who do not want to use EAC can still disable it with the -noeac launch parameter and can play custom matches or non-ranked game modes.

• https://www.brawlhalla.com/news/five-new-challengers-appear-in-brawlhalla-x-street-fighter-part-2-patch-6-07/

If you're encountering errors with EAC, some fixes have been listed here: #help-booth message
If none of these solve your issue, please visit https://brawlhalla.com/support for further assistance.

You can disable it or look at the fixes in the second link@lusty jetty

[solemn wraith]

throw a spikeball
hit someone with the spikeball
pick up the same spikeball
hit another person with the spikeball

alternitivly you can throw a bomb at a crowd

[bronze flame]

Does using the horn and hitting multiple people with the sidekick in FFA work for this one too?

Enlighten me

Because in my mind that would be the easiest way of doing it

[solemn wraith]

yeah i think so

but people dodge the horn

people dodge the bombs and stuff too but theyre easier

[bronze flame]

In FFA?

[solemn wraith]

yeah

its full of sweats

[bronze flame]

Huh, okay

[solemn wraith]

maybe ur not as high in ffa elo ( ) as i am

[dusty cove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/632292722912264194/819206165442461736/double_spikeball.mp4
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/796412830726619186/819226164798292018/sidekick_summoner.mp4

[dusty cove]

@limber cedar vid if u need it
spikeballs are really easy to get progress with

[solemn wraith]

do you want me to make a proper gif or video or someshit because these are hard to follow

[dusty cove]

nah

[lusty jetty]

I can't play ranked mode."you need to have easy anti cheat running correctly"or such message is displayed

[solemn wraith]

%eac

[dusty cove]

theres only one player using a gadget in either of those vids

[kindred lava]

After many rounds of testing, Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC) will now be enabled on Steam and enforced in ranked and tournament lobbies. Players who do not want to use EAC can still disable it with the -noeac launch parameter and can play custom matches or non-ranked game modes.

• https://www.brawlhalla.com/news/five-new-challengers-appear-in-brawlhalla-x-street-fighter-part-2-patch-6-07/

If you're encountering errors with EAC, some fixes have been listed here: #help-booth message
If none of these solve your issue, please visit https://brawlhalla.com/support for further assistance.

[solemn wraith]

still hard to keep track of it

[dusty cove]

its good enough

[lusty jetty]

I can't find any help there ei5

Either*

[dusty cove]

If you're encountering errors with EAC, some fixes have been listed here: #help-booth message

[solemn wraith]

moment

[lusty jetty]

I'll try this one

Why did the devs add the anticheat anyway.it sucks

[dusty cove]

blame cosolix and other people cheating in tournaments

[lusty jetty]

You guys encountered these anticheat problems?

[dusty cove]

me personally no but we get quite a few ppl who do

[solemn wraith]

me

[steep lynx]

Before trying the fixes in that message make sure you're supported (read the first 3 lines of it)

[lusty jetty]

How did you solve it,miss or...

[solemn wraith]

i didnt

the game sucks and theres no way to reduce the impact it has on my gameplay

[lusty jetty]

K

[tropic dust]

almost immediately after i join a game i get disconnected, happens for all gamemodes, tried reinstalling buut doesnt work

[solemn wraith]

what device are you on

[tropic dust]

when i try to rejoin it says im not connected

[tropic dust]

laptop

[solemn wraith]

have you tried disabling anticheat

[tropic dust]

isnt it a ranked must

[solemn wraith]

you need it to play ranked but its easier to disable it and see if it works just to rule out what it could be

[tropic dust]

ok cool

[remote geyser]

Im a brawlhalla mobile player..

Downloaded from play store...

The problem is..

My name is shown as Brawler..

How can i change

[tropic dust]

login with ur account i think?

[solemn wraith]

you need to change your ign from the play store/game centre

it contains a filtered word

[tropic dust]

if -noeac is the correct way to remove it, it doesnt work

[remote geyser]

How can i

[solemn wraith]

are you on ios or android

[solemn wraith]

have you checked your ping to the bh servers

[tropic dust]

dont know how to, how do i

[solemn wraith]

Regional ping test
US-E
ping -n 30 pingtest-atl.brawlhalla.com
US-W
ping -n 30 pingtest-cal.brawlhalla.com
EU
ping -n 30 pingtest-ams.brawlhalla.com
SEA
ping -n 30 pingtest-sgp.brawlhalla.com
AUS
ping -n 30 pingtest-aus.brawlhalla.com
BRZ
ping -n 30 pingtest-brs.brawlhalla.com
JPN
ping -n 30 pingtest-jpn.brawlhalla.com

put this, depending on ur region, into your command prompt

idk what its called terminal or whatever

[tropic dust]

doesnt wok

[solemn wraith]

wdym doesnt work

u just copy paste the line into ur terminal thing

[tropic dust]

page doesnt open

terminal?

[solemn wraith]

command promt

just copy paste it

[tropic dust]

o okok wait

Minimum = 47ms, Maximum = 57ms, Average = 49ms

[solemn wraith]

any loss?

[tropic dust]

?

[solemn wraith]

in this line

lost = ?

[unborn wharf]

when is pr getting updated

[solemn wraith]

0 idea

[tropic dust]

the pattle rass?

[unborn wharf]

no

[tropic dust]

whats pr lmao

[zinc snow]

power ranking

[solemn wraith]

power rank

[unborn wharf]

power ranking

[tropic dust]

0 loss

[solemn wraith]

type /NETWORKNEXTDISABLE in the in game chat

i bet its exitlag thats done it the devs actually suck

[tropic dust]

ok ill play a game and try now?

[solemn wraith]

go for it

[tardy sierra]

that info is almost never known

[ocean heart]

does anybody know if cross progression is ever going to be a thing?

[solemn wraith]

it ill be. probably in 5 years time but it will be

[ocean heart]

😔

[lusty jetty]

I can't bloody play ranked . Easy anti cheat sucks!!!

😩

[solemn wraith]

%eac

[kindred lava]

After many rounds of testing, Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC) will now be enabled on Steam and enforced in ranked and tournament lobbies. Players who do not want to use EAC can still disable it with the -noeac launch parameter and can play custom matches or non-ranked game modes.

• https://www.brawlhalla.com/news/five-new-challengers-appear-in-brawlhalla-x-street-fighter-part-2-patch-6-07/

If you're encountering errors with EAC, some fixes have been listed here: #help-booth message
If none of these solve your issue, please visit https://brawlhalla.com/support for further assistance.

[steep lynx]

32 bit? Windows vista or older? What CPU do you have?

[lusty jetty]

64 bit.windows7.

[steep lynx]

They released a preview for them adjusted for autumns just a few days ago but it was only the top 20, I'd expect them soon but can't say for sure

[steep lynx]

Cpu

[lusty jetty]

What do you mean by cpu?

[steep lynx]

I mean what processor does your system have

[lusty jetty]

Like Intel gen i3?

[fluid ocean]

i get random framedrops

[tardy sierra]

pick techtest from the betas and put - framefixunbounded -setfps 144 in launch options
if you get stutters, use -framefix instead

[fluid ocean]

hm

thanks

[steep lynx]

I3 should be fine for eac, what happens when you try to run the game without the launch option -noeac? Did you try all of the fixes in the message you got sent before?

[sacred scarab]

is there like an elo system because im trying to play this game and all the people i get put up against clearly have been playing for way longer than i have

[solemn wraith]

there is an elo system, its very out of place though especially in the 'casual' gamemodes

[sacred scarab]

oh ok

also what is the best way to unlock a character at the beginning

cause i have like 2 weapons i really like and im assuming theres a character that has those two

[carmine bay]

You joined at a bad time as a lot of people have made new accounts to try the new placement matches and that kinda puts people lower than they are two

[sacred scarab]

sucks but too late now

[carmine bay]

For the most part there will be and the best way to unlock people honestly just do daily missions, do tutorial, and do brawl of the week

I believe 57 legends in total if not more

[sacred scarab]

so theres not one for every weapon combo

[solemn wraith]

there isnt a legend for every single weapon combo

they have a majority depending on when the weapon was released

[carmine bay]

What’s the 2 weapons you like?

[sacred scarab]

i checked the wiki

[tropic dust]

still does it

[solemn wraith]

skill issues ig

[sacred scarab]

and there is not one for the 2 weapons i like which are bow and cannon

[tropic dust]

?

[solemn wraith]

%lag -u 882834634512158751

[kindred lava]

@tropic dust
If you are experiencing lag issues, please refer to https://brawlhalla.com/support/#lag If that doesn't solve your issue, try changing server region to another region and then changing back.

If you would like to test your ping, please visit https://pingtestlive.com/brawlhalla.

[sacred scarab]

nor orb bow which i also like

[tropic dust]

ok ill try

[covert dock]

im just starting pc and im trying to get good at it (ik the Fondmetal's just rlly need help with dlight grounded nair on gauntlets)

k

[solemn wraith]

dlight nair on gauntlets by Ginger#0500

ensure your aimup and jump buttons are separated to follow this guide effectively

first way is more inconsistent than the second

dlight > jump > cd > nair

if the dlight is gc-ed (gravity cancelled), you do not need to jump
the cd (chase dodge) is horizontal
this is a true combo on any dexterity

second and better way to dlight nair is the buffer version

dlight > buffer cd > nair

you buffer the cd by jumping in the first few frames of the cd emitting
the timing for this is very percise and will take a lot of practice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGjTCe0wpfo explains this method much better than a written discord message

always practice combos slowly and piece by piece

[carmine bay]

I’m stealing this for future use btw

[solemn wraith]

go for it

[tropic dust]

ginger thx

but still does that randomly tho xd

[steep lynx]

try koji, bow and sword plays somewhat similar, you could also check out vector, as lance is kinda similar to cannon (you can zoom around on both)

[remote geyser]

Android

[sacred scarab]

i did, sword is very boring lol, but vector might be fun, rocket lance seems fun

[steep lynx]

you should have the "play games" app, open it, press the profile icon on the bottom right, then press the pencil icon on at the top left - from there you can change your name
your name has a word in it thats filtered by the game, change it and eventually the Brawler tag will go away

[solemn wraith]

you have to change the name through the play games app, locate your account and change ur name to an unfiltered one

[remote geyser]

I changed

But its still showing 'Brawler' tag

[steep lynx]

it will eventually change, might take a day, might take a week, unless the filtered word was especially bad

[remote geyser]

Can i dm u?

[steep lynx]

you can

[steady cedar]

what legends count as "Asguardian"? i won 3 ranked 1v1s with bödvar but the mission is still 0 out of 3

[covert dock]

Brynn for sure

[steep lynx]

%asgardian

[kindred lava]

Win matches as Asgardian Legends: Orion, Brynn, Ulgrim, Kor, Thor

[covert dock]

😧

[steady cedar]

oki thanks!

wait orion is from asgard?

he is carrying a lance

lovely lore :D

[solemn wraith]

🤨

[bronze flame]

people care about the lore?!?1

am i the only person who just plays this game to beat lower ranked noobs?

[solemn wraith]

yes

[covert dock]

Pleas fix the links for odin spear and axe

[carmine bay]

They were discontinued

The links aren’t the issue

[covert dock]

will rematch ever come to strikeout

[tender haven]

they just added it to other game modes so they might add it

[tardy sierra]

nobody will ever rematch in strikeout

[tender haven]

it might be used once then never again

[tardy sierra]

it won't be used a single time

[tender haven]

yeah it will, by mistake

[night vale]

when heavyweights will be on sale?

[tardy sierra]

https://brawlhalla.fandom.com/wiki/Skin_Sale_Rotation

[twilit thunder]

im getting the easy anti cheat must be running without error but im not using -noeac

[quiet stirrup]

Same

[thorn ferry]

same

[twilit thunder]

Oh ok not only me

[solemn wraith]

%eac

[kindred lava]

After many rounds of testing, Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC) will now be enabled on Steam and enforced in ranked and tournament lobbies. Players who do not want to use EAC can still disable it with the -noeac launch parameter and can play custom matches or non-ranked game modes.

• https://www.brawlhalla.com/news/five-new-challengers-appear-in-brawlhalla-x-street-fighter-part-2-patch-6-07/

If you're encountering errors with EAC, some fixes have been listed here: #help-booth message
If none of these solve your issue, please visit https://brawlhalla.com/support for further assistance.

[twilit thunder]

I restarted lmao

No i think its a problem for everyone now

Ginger

[solemn wraith]

its not

people are running it fine

[twilit thunder]

What about this 2

[quiet stirrup]

I still don't get it

How do you hack in brawlhalla 💀

[twilit thunder]

💀who knows

[quiet stirrup]

This was May, I just got the issue.

Didn't have it yesterday

[twilit thunder]

Same just now

[quiet stirrup]

Imma reinstall

[twilit thunder]

+2

[quiet stirrup]

Didn't work.

[quiet stirrup]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLBs8vFNM2M

[twilit thunder]

Fixed urs?

[quiet stirrup]

Trying

[twilit thunder]

Aight

I think its not only us but whatever lets try

[quiet stirrup]

Nah, there's lots of others

THere's plenty of recent vids about it

[twilit thunder]

Damn

[thorn ferry]

tried that

#didnt work

[solemn wraith]

moment

[quiet stirrup]

We're aware.

[twilit thunder]

bruh moment

[thorn ferry]

restarted game

and it works lol

[twilit thunder]

tf lmao

i reinstalled ill check

worked

lessgoo

im not bitchless any more lesgoo

[quiet stirrup]

🤔

[twilit thunder]

nothing worked for u @quiet stirrup

?

[quiet stirrup]

Still stuck

[twilit thunder]

hmm

[quiet stirrup]

Nah fixed

I found the solution

[twilit thunder]

well they prb fixed the issue

[quiet stirrup]

You can apply the EAC by finding it in your local folders

[twilit thunder]

whatever it worked for me when i reinstalled

[quiet stirrup]

Then pressing on it will enable it, then it will load up the game, if not, you can manually start the game

Did that, and it worked

[twilit thunder]

hf

[sand hare]

is diamond rank still 2k? idk why im diamond I haven't reach it yet

not sure cause of the new rank thing

[solemn wraith]

derank threshold ig

wait if you werent diamond before?

[midnight creek]

is it just me or does it happen where brawlhalla lags randomly even tho i have good wifi

[solemn wraith]

thats confusing u might have reached diamond

[sand hare]

I was diamond last season I think

[solemn wraith]

%lag

[kindred lava]

If you are experiencing lag issues, please refer to https://brawlhalla.com/support/#lag If that doesn't solve your issue, try changing server region to another region and then changing back.

If you would like to test your ping, please visit https://pingtestlive.com/brawlhalla.

[sand hare]

I just started rn and it showed my rank

[solemn wraith]

and you wouldnt have reset in diamond

[sand hare]

idk this rank thing is weird

[solemn wraith]

whats ur ign? could look on corehalla

[sand hare]

Snail

yeah I think they moved diamond to 1900 or something

[solemn wraith]

what the fuck happened here?

[solemn wraith]

they wouldnt have

they didnt say anything

[sand hare]

oh you sent it already

[solemn wraith]

thats you but i click on ur acount and it says gold with 1 win

[sand hare]

yah it's weird

im gold and diamond 😂

[solemn wraith]

i have 0 clue lmao

[alpine tusk]

aye which legends were born in asgard

im assuming brynn is one of them but im sure theres others

[tight holly]

Why no vc perms

It’s been a week

[solemn wraith]

%asgardian

[rare lark]

Win matches as Asgardian Legends: Orion, Brynn, Ulgrim, Kor, Thor

[kindred lava]

Win matches as Asgardian Legends: Orion, Brynn, Ulgrim, Kor, Thor

[solemn wraith]

not yet it hasnt been

[tight holly]

What you mean

It has

[solemn wraith]

you joined on the 24th

[tight holly]

Oh

[tight holly]

So one mor day

[solemn wraith]

yeah

[tight holly]

More

Ok

[south relic]

how do i add this to my game where it says combo window

[steep lynx]

i've never seen anything like that LOL

I'm guessing its a bug from the newest update it shouldn't show the UI like that until 2000

[steep lynx]

in training mode select stun time, its only in training mode, the number is the amount of frames the enemy would have to dodge between attacks

[south relic]

oh okay thanks bro

[thick grail]

How do you get the Raven’s Talon scythe?

[queen pawn]

by subbing(following) to brawlhalla on twitter

or scanning the QR code from the brawlhalla news feed or whatever it's called idr

[thick grail]

I did

[thick grail]

I play on the Switch and the switchdoesnt have that somehow

[queen pawn]

maybe it's gone idk

[thick grail]

Oh ok

But i did sub to the twitter

[queen pawn]

oh well

let's think this out

[thick grail]

Ok

[queen pawn]

i suggest you don't even get the scythe skin it sucks

[thick grail]

I dont have any scythe skin

So thats why im trying to get this one lol

[queen pawn]

it doesn't look good on most legends

but anyways i suggest you google how to get it and say it works in this chat then thank me

[thick grail]

Ok

[queen pawn]

or search brawlhalla.com/FreeScythe@thick grail

iam very helpful

[thick grail]

Ok i got it

Thnks

[queen pawn]

Fr?

[proud hull]

can someone join call with me and help me learn greatsword a bit better lol

[steep lynx]

Yes you helped them correctly lol that's what we'd normally send them to

[steep lynx]

%coach As for the call i'd try #looking-for-game or #118778495085182976 if you want more formal coaching check the server below

[rare lark]

https://discord.gg/brawlleague Brawl League offers free coaching/mentoring to help you improve. Join the discord from the link below then navigate to #mentor_request and read that channel in its entirety for all information on how to get a coach/mentor. If you're experiencing difficulty, this video may help you: https://youtu.be/HiprMu3iACk

[queen pawn]

[thorn totem]

Is there a way to reverse an update ? This update fucked my game up

[steep lynx]

You can't play old builds of the game online, what did the update do

[thorn totem]

Randomly my game would pause mid match

You can’t even classify it as a lag spike because my internet is fine

[steep lynx]

are you on windows?

[thorn totem]

Windows steam yes

[steep lynx]

type this in the ingame chat and see if theres any change
/NETWORKNEXTDISABLE
this is really the only thing they did this patch that could affect performance

[thorn totem]

It’s even doing it in fucking training mode lmao

[steep lynx]

okay its probably not that then

[thorn totem]

I was fine pre update

[steep lynx]

%verify I'd do this and reinstall if no change and see if it helps

[rare lark]

If you're experiencing issues with crashes, black backgrounds/screens, it may be good to try verifying the integrity of your game files. This can be done by navigating to Steam -> Brawlhalla -> Properties -> Local Files -> Verify integrity of game files...

[thorn totem]

Ok

[steep lynx]

if you're using the techtest beta and -framefix/-framefixunbounded I would try turning some of those off/on, if you dont know what any of them are just ask, since the only other thing they changed this patch is make "improvements" to them

[dusty cove]

swonk either go to sleep or get on ranked 2s

[steep lynx]

nahhh not tonight im on brawl break today

or, yesterday

maybe later today or tomorrow, i will have to play tomorrow for a cb anyway

[dusty cove]

weak

[green sable]

Turning off Network Next seems to have improved my lag

[steep lynx]

good to know its doing the exact opposite of what its meant to do lol

[green sable]

I'm using mobile data if that helps for feedback

[steep lynx]

I'm no dev, i suppose feedback would go to [e-mail] email of all places

[green sable]

lol

That's just a corporate black hole email

I've emailed them before and 0 response whatsoever

[steep lynx]

Thats true but what goes there does get read, it usually depends what the contents of the email is if anything happens with it

[green sable]

I somehow doubt it

I made a suggestion for some charity stuff

Realistically, they could have at least responded to say they were doing something else

Which gives me the strong impression it's just an inbox

[steep lynx]

I've had (and seen others get) responses within a week (albeit in my case it was ~2 years ago), in some occasions on the dev stream even in the last year they've mentioned both [e-mail] and [e-mail] as outlets for viewers to use. Idk if suggestions get passed on by whichever people run it but at least from my perspective its not a dead email, and the devs still recommend it

[green sable]

If I wanna contact the devs, I usually just go through significant people in the community

Literally every company in history has recommended that user feedback gets sent to their black hole email

[steep lynx]

I would generally recommend that too, if you can get a social media contact with a dev for the right field of the issue then thats probably gonna be more receptive, but general things like feedback I dont think are appropriate to dm a single dev for

[green sable]

I think that's their main problem tbh

They're plenty transparent when it comes to news and updates and stuff

So all the new stream stuff is fine but doesn't really address the main issue which is that contacting them about issues is basically impossible unless you personally know members of staff

[steep lynx]

It definitely could be better yeah, but tbh 95% of the people who come in this channel asking for a dev can be just as easily helped by any helper here, they just need to work on an outlet for suggestions, etc

[dusty cove]

the only time ive gotten a response to a support email is by catching slosh in #118778495085182976 and asking him if anyone had seen the email

[green sable]

Exactly

The only way to contact them is catching them somewhere

[dusty cove]

i mean like they ARE understaffed and overworked
but there has to be a better solution honestly

[steep lynx]

They clearly don't have the people in-house to deal with that email, idk why they still try, or still advertise it, but again a couple years back I got a reply in the same work week, maybe i was just lucky

[dusty cove]

btw swonk if u dont mind getting on for a sec and switiching the ingame language and tell me if u get a lagspike or not

[green sable]

One solution would be to have a questions stream where they answer pre-submitted questions

[dusty cove]

cycle through them one or two times

[green sable]

Literally the only time I've ever got a response to a question was when I managed to catch Foda in Twitch chat

Before that it took me 17 attempts asking different people if they knew or not

[steep lynx]

They've done streams like that before they're just infrequent, they've mentioned not that long ago that they're working on more community based, interactive, transparent dev streams

[green sable]

Right but the Dev streams are fine

[dusty cove]

we had a guy here not too long ago who had most of their battle pass items lost

not all but most

took them i think close to 4 months of talking about it in twitter and the subreddit until they fixed the issue

[green sable]

It's not the streams that are the problem. It's the fact that contacting them is impossible. It's not feasible for them to respond to Twitch chat, which scrolls at 500mph, and 90% of the time when they do, the conversation wasn't even directed at them and their answer makes little sense without relevant context

[steep lynx]

They should really outsource 1st and 2nd line support to a company that handles that kinda thing and create a proper ticket system on their website

[green sable]

I feel like these things are easy enough to facilitate in the Discord

Tbh, I don't think they even need that

Just have a channel here that someone on the team checks

[steep lynx]

nah its instant even with cyberpunk open lol

[green sable]

And then have staff and helpers filter out questions that they need to answer

[dusty cove]

i think bmg really needs some extra funding
get some proper support personnel and a few extra devs/artists

[green sable]

Cuz most questions can be filtered out and answered by staff and helpers

[dusty cove]

hm
mine lagged when switching to the utf16 languages cuz those use a diff font

chinese japanese russian

[green sable]

But when a question can't be, it's a freaking nightmare getting an answer

[dusty cove]

but then once those were loaded it didnt lag after that

[steep lynx]

nope went straight to the back so it was chinese or korean didnt see and it was instant

[green sable]

Mine takes a moment to load a different language but I wouldn't call it lag

[steep lynx]

I scrolled through them before like a week ago tho

[dusty cove]

i thought maybe they might be rereading the stringtable from disk cuz each lang is in a diff file now

[dusty cove]

its "engine lag"

lag isnt a very specific term anyway

[steep lynx]

Tbh, I cant even remember the last time I've had to recommend someone to support for an actual technical issue, its the best I can do with suggestions (i just say twitter/support email) but most aren't even needed

[green sable]

Sure but "lag" normally refers to unexpected delays, rather than expected delays, which are called "loading"

[dusty cove]

it does actually only read 1 language file on startup which i suppose saves on ram over the previous method
but most of the delay is from the font not the actual language file

[green sable]

Like... noone is surprised when a game takes some time to load a map or whatever

[dusty cove]

what most ppl call lag is specifically network latency and packet loss

lag could mean that or it could mean any kind of delay

or slowdown

[steep lynx]

i hate the term lag
25% of the time its framedrops 25% of the time its stutters 25% of the time its actual network "lag" and 25% its none of those

and 90% of the time someones """"lagging"""" they say "help im lagging" and you have to decipher exactly what kind of lag they mean

[dusty cove]

lag on its own is a shit term but when you specify what it is its fine
like lagframe

[green sable]

That's because they don't know what kind it is

[steep lynx]

If that term never existed and they all just explained whats happening it would be much easier

[dusty cove]

they should really add these

and actual ping

[flat panther]

i’m 1860 in 1s im trying to hit diamond this szn any tips

[green sable]

Are servers now down completely?

Nope just me

[flat panther]

i’m a lucian main btw

[stark swan]

bmg is notorious for having terrible support lol

the entirety of bmg is something like 27 employees, as opposed to the thousands of employees most big game developers have

with the current size of their team it's not particularly feasible for a handful of devs to answer the questions of tens of thousands of players with queries (keep in mind brawlhalla's playerbase is far into the millions)

so until they decide to hire more people there's not much that can be done unfortunately

[green sable]

Hiring one person whose entire job is to deal with community questions might do the job

[stark swan]

yeah but i think that's somewhat low on their list of priorities

[green sable]

I feel like, given the recent stuff that's happening, it shouldn't be

[stark swan]

it's definitely something they need to address but their volatile playerbase is more of a priority

its hard to care about support when your player count is dropping

[green sable]

Well firstly, it's not dropping that much

If you look at pre-pandemic figures, it's actually slightly up

[stark swan]

i mean that there was a clear downwards trend

[green sable]

Secondly, the community have been complaining about the lack of support. Like... the vast majority of the complaints have been that noone can actually talk to BMG about game issues. And... their response to people being dissatisfied with news streams being the only information we get has been to have more news streams

[stark swan]

not to mention the large amount of pro players who are no longer taking the game seriously and/or are quitting

[stark swan]

i feel like bmg doesn't know about the lack of support due to the fact they have a lack of support staff to receive the complaints about a lack of support, ironically

[green sable]

But they kinda have received them tbh

[stark swan]

in all seriousness i think there's an issue with their management

[green sable]

They just got the wrong end of the stick

[stark swan]

whoever is in charge is not very open to change

[green sable]

I don't think so

[stark swan]

have you seen their team? they're like the most wholesome people

[green sable]

I think they just need to open a line of communication between the playerbase and the devs

[stark swan]

in the past the dev team really did care a lot about their community

[green sable]

They most likely still do

[stark swan]

based on what i've seen from some of the devs they are well aware about the issues with their game

the only reason i can think of for why they struggle to address these issues is not because they can't fix it but because they don't have enough people onboard to work on it (especially if their management is not onboard)

[green sable]

It's easy to be aware of something. It's not easy to provide an alternative that does better

[stark swan]

that is true

at the end of the day it's all kinda speculation, we don't know what's going on behind the scenes but whatever it is they are the ones that need to address it

[green sable]

Also, it's difficult because 95% of community complaints are essentially user error

I've been head admin for a major-ish online game

[stark swan]

yeah they need a better support page

[green sable]

And most of the "bug reports" were user erro

[stark swan]

that tends to be the case

that's with like any support team

[green sable]

But we had Discord staff to answer the questions, test bugs, and then report the actual bugs to the devs

[stark swan]

they typically have multiple tiers of support

[stark swan]

yeah

[green sable]

We managed to provide the information the dev team needed and filter out the nonsense just through Discord

[stark swan]

they definitely need more volunteer employees and/or interns

on their page they say that they aren't hiring though

[green sable]

Or just have someone whose job it is to liaise between the Discord and the dev team

[stark swan]

yeah, just better support in general

[green sable]

They can answer any questions that already have been answered, and anything that genuinely needs the devs can be passed on through a channel they know is reliable

[stark swan]

until bmg have some pressing motivation to have better support nothing is really going to change unfortunately

the current support system "works"

[green sable]

I feel like they got that motivation not long ago

And kinda ignored it

[stark swan]

no they definitely have motivation i mean like something that essentially forces them to do it

[green sable]

Or rather, their response was to do exactly the same thing they were doing but more

[stark swan]

having better support is something they should do but not something they need to do, once it becomes something they need to do then they'll do it

[green sable]

Like they started the whole community update streams. Cool, but it's basically just a glorified dev stream and doesn't really address any of the underlying issues which is that they don't hear about problems until people are quitting

[stark swan]

the community update streams kinda flopped but from the sounds they're working on improving them

[green sable]

And once people are quitting, it takes a lot to reverse that momentum

[stark swan]

no not really

depends on the reason for people quitting

if people quit because of lack of interest then it's easy to reverse the momentum

just give the playerbase a reason to be interested again

[steep lynx]

The game is big enough that one, english only discord channel would be much worse than just outsourcing the 1st and 2nd line support to a proper company with a proper ticket system that can handle 10s of different languages and hire a couple more devs to manage that 3rd line support, that cuts out most of the work for them and is a lot less jank than a discord channel

[stark swan]

if people quit because of controversy or the game being unplayable then it's much more difficult to reverse it

[stark swan]

certainly

[green sable]

Generally, people quit because the number of issues they're not happy with has reached a threshold where they don't want to deal with it any more, and they no longer have confidence in the dev team to fix it

[stark swan]

the main issue is that in order to have a good support system they need some drastic changes

[green sable]

I don't think they do

They just need a support system

[stark swan]

since brawlhalla has servers across the globe they need to have support staff that can speak all sorts of different languages

[green sable]

The current one doesn't exist

Start with one

People can use Translate if necessary

1 is so, so much better than 0

[steep lynx]

thats why they outsource the 1st and 2nd line support to a company that can handle those issues and deal with those languages accordingly instead of doing it in-house

[green sable]

0 means frustrations grow and overflow

[stark swan]

reminder that bmg currently has 27 employees

[green sable]

1 means there is at least a way, even if it takes a bit

[steep lynx]

thats also why they outsource it :p

[green sable]

Tbh, 1 employee more would do it

[stark swan]

no not really

would have to be a fair few

[green sable]

I mean... I've done this job myself

For a website with hundreds of thousands of players

And I did it as a hobby

[stark swan]

As of April 2022, Brawlhalla boasts more than 80 million players.

[green sable]

In some spare time

[stark swan]

hundreds of thousands of players isn't quite equal to 80 million

[green sable]

I was guessing tbh

How many members does this Discord have?

[stark swan]

last i saw it surpassed 200k

i'm not sure what it's at now

[dusty cove]

the problem is matt is:

1. not pr/cm trained
2. not a dev whos close to the code
3. said things from his perspective which the community didnt wanna hear, they only wanna hear certain things that feed into their version of what the game is and how it should be run

discord.gg/brawlhalla

[stark swan]

yep

that's what i was talking about before with management being a large issue

[dusty cove]

matt is the project manager right?

[stark swan]

i think so

[dusty cove]

i think at least swonk knows what that uhhhh means

[stark swan]

he's the managing director

[dusty cove]

potato potato

project director*

[steep lynx]

This idea of a discord based support system should (and most likely would) never happen especially for the size of players this game has, better to leave it to a company they can afford rather than discord volunteers and a few devs to filter through that mess

[green sable]

This basically applies to every game tbh. From what I saw on that stream, he's just a engineer doing his best like any other. The issue is that the community have no freaking clue what is causing issues in the game and the devs have no freaking clue what issues players are experiencing. The lack of communication is the main issue

[stark swan]

oh what the heck this website straight up has every developer's email

[dusty cove]

also simple fact:
discord is 13+
brawlhalla is 7-10+

[stark swan]

^^^^^

not only that, since brawlhalla has servers across the globe a lot of players don't speak english

[green sable]

The vast majority of users aren't sufficiently invested in the game to seek out devs to ask questions

It's only really the most invested that do, and they're also the people that get the most frustrated when issues are ignored

[stark swan]

let's say 1% of the users are invested enough to ask questions

that's 800,000

[green sable]

It'd be less than that tbh

[dusty cove]

yeah i think the biggest problem is point 3
ppl want open comms sure bring on a dev and let them explain what exactly the stringtable changes were
but the community doesnt care about that even tho they want communication

[dusty cove]

its way less

[stark swan]

keep in mind that the top 1% of players is like 1900+

[green sable]

I'm not talking elo

[stark swan]

i mean that the top 1% of the playerbase must have invested time into the game to achieve that

[green sable]

Also, answers can be placed in an FAQ, responded to by a bot, or circulated around the community

[stark swan]

but yeah this is just speculation

i don't think there's an easy way to determine the number of players with dev queries

[green sable]

The answer has to exist in a verifiable form though

[stark swan]

no not really

[green sable]

So if the answer doesn't exist in a verifiable form, how will people be able yo get an answer they are confident in?

[stark swan]

the only way we'd be able to know how many people ask the devs questions is if every single dev would search through the number of players asking questions to them across every social media platform, combined with questions asked in public forums such as discord, steam, twitch, etc.

anyways back to the original topic

until bmg actually decides to get a better support team we will unfortunately have to deal with what we currently have

[green sable]

I imagine most of the questions are the same

[dusty cove]

things is #help-booth exists
and we can make some vids that extend that to yt

[green sable]

So could be answered once by a dev, and then every other time by helpers/an FAQ/a bot/etc

[dusty cove]

but that simply doesnt have the reach that the devs have

[green sable]

Exactly. This channel largely fulfils the role already

[dusty cove]

most of it*

[green sable]

The problem is that this channel has no link to the devs so there are questions that can't be answered

[dusty cove]

theres a lot of things we cant do
yeah exactly

[green sable]

Having a line of communication between this channel and the devs would help massively

[stark swan]

i did a little bit of research and it looks like matt does have a pretty significant role in bmg, which could explain some of the issues with implementing new features/changes

[green sable]

Like... astronomically

[stark swan]

Managing Directors determine, formulate and review the general policy programs and the overall direction of organisations within the framework established by boards of directors and similar governing bodies.

[green sable]

Matt really isn't the issue tbh

[stark swan]

we don't know that

[green sable]

Really?

[stark swan]

it's hard to know exactly what the issue is without contacting bmg or being a part of bmg

[dusty cove]

matt just guides the game in a general direction

[green sable]

Blaming a manager is just the go to for customer service issues, but it's almost never the case

[stark swan]

not a general direction. the direction

[dusty cove]

and makes sure goals are reached on time

[dusty cove]

what i meant by that is he doesnt control the exact specifics

[stark swan]

yeah

[dusty cove]

down to like medium level details is what at most he has control over

[stark swan]

once again it's kinda just speculation, we don't actually know what the specific problem is

[dusty cove]

anything mid level and below falls under each team's senior dev/leader

[stark swan]

matt could be carrying the dev team for all we know

[dusty cove]

thats not how teams work

[green sable]

Put it this way, the fact that the devs didn't even know about the existence of a #looking-for-game channel in their Discord means their is almost no communication between devs and Discord whatsoever

[stark swan]

yes it is

[dusty cove]

he probably just makes general decisions on how to lead the teams

[stark swan]

teamwork is all about carrying the team and making sure nobody else can do anything because you're the best 🙄

[dusty cove]

if 1 person is carrying an entire org that org is completely fucked

define carry

[stark swan]

i am kidding

[green sable]

The current issue is there is no filter. So issues like someone with a broken controller saying the game doesn't work any more have equivalent priority to actually important issues. Which means the devs do not have time to address anything, because the filtering itself would take too much time. But filtering is ALREADY happening, right here.

[dusty cove]

[stark swan]

mhm

[green sable]

They just don't seem to be aware of their own Discord, other than that it exists

And Discord is a pretty easy and efficient way to have community/dev relations

You need someone to do the filtering part (Swonkles be carrying rn)

[dusty cove]

it needs to be more controlled by the devs themselves

they cant put everything into discord

and even if they can they shouldnt

[stark swan]

bmg just uses this server to plug their twitch channel and ping everyone about updates really

[green sable]

The issue is there is noone to pick up anything that passes through the filter

[stark swan]

this is more of a community server than anything

[dusty cove]

it was a community server

[stark swan]

it still is primarily a community server

[green sable]

They should make better use of it tbh

[inland breach]

Gus

[dusty cove]

then bmg took over
but only in name

[stark swan]

eh, take it up with bmg then

[dusty cove]

they barely have any jurisdiction over how this server is run

[green sable]

Touché

[steep lynx]

As nice as the idea sounds I'd much rather see all support for the game go to a 3rd party company and this channel become for discord issues only (and telling people to make a ticket on their site, or whatever) for all the reasons we talked about before

[green sable]

If only

[dusty cove]

i mean like common issues can be answered more quickly here

[green sable]

You're still gonna get people asking regardless, and palming them off isn't gonna help

[steep lynx]

games bigger than this have same day support, its just all done out of house ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[green sable]

Plus, 3rd party companies any notoriously bad at it because it's yet another layer in the way, and they have no idea about the game so questions and answers get garbled

[green sable]

Game support is notoriously terrible. Community support is almost always better

[dusty cove]

i think the best solution would be to have a form that ppl fill out on the support site that narrows down what the issue is then presents a solution
if the solution doesnt work it gives a direct contact to the support team
and what this channel gets is the form kinda

[steep lynx]

thats why ideally the 3rd line is done by a few developers in-house and the rest is sourced by a 3rd party, that way they can remain small while also supporting all the issues that arise with discord support (missinformation, needing to be moderated, discords age limit, language barriers, etc

[dusty cove]

cuz whos gonna contact support for a quick issue that can be solved by running a tag

[green sable]

I had an issue with CoD Black Ops the other day. I contacted their support and spent ages and got nowhere. I started asking random people in lobbies about it, they told me it was probably NAT settings, I looked that up, changed them, and it was fixed

Noone knows game issues better than gamers

[dusty cove]

^^

yeah we might have exp with those issues

[green sable]

EXCEPT backend issues that you need devs to explain

[dusty cove]

but the devs might not
hint hint matterhorn

[green sable]

We already have the devs and the gamers, we just need them to talk to each other

[dusty cove]

nice invite

[steep lynx]

On the other hand I've had the complete opposite (basically instant support to a competent enough support staff) to solve my issue that couldn't be solved with googling or asking others with similar triple A titles, it just has to be done right. dont get me wrong the idea of discord support from volunteers is a nice idea but the scale and unprofessionalism of it just doesn't seem right for brawlhalla (along with the other issues i said

[green sable]

In my experience, gaming communities themselves do a pretty good job of helping each other with issues, except when noone in the community knows the answer, in which case a dev needs to tell someone somewhere the answer and then they can help again

[dusty cove]

sure but
bh youtubers and streamers have a partner program as a way to have a closer link to the devs

[stark swan]

i was genuinely shocked by how fast game devs for other games respond to queries lol

[dusty cove]

and i think help booth and the wiki could benefit from something like that

[steep lynx]

Of course, but for a full scale discord support system? nah

[dusty cove]

doesnt need to

[stark swan]

there was this one dev for a game that mentioned in the game's discord server that there was a new patch coming in 24hrs

[dusty cove]

we just need some basic tools that honestly should be on the support page anyway

[stark swan]

on that same day i made a bug support ticket and the bug was patched by the next update

[dusty cove]

and like
"hey a lot ppl are asking about this issue recently could you look into it or give us some potential fixes?"

[stark swan]

the game literally had a team of 4

and the bug was patched within a day of the game updating

[steep lynx]

When it comes to this channel nowadays the only times i tell people to even try to contact the devs are for suggestions and (actual) bug reports anyway, an outlet for those would be good enough of a start

[steep lynx]

Yea cant really do that with brawlhalla regardless of the size of the team

[stark swan]

yep

[dusty cove]

LMAO STILL NOT FUCKING FIXED

[green sable]

That's basically what I'm suggesting

[stark swan]

the larger the team the harder it becomes to patch things quickly, ironically

[dusty cove]

suggestions arent supposed to go the support email

[green sable]

Basically, have a dev who is in active contact with staff here to answer questions that helpers can't

Then once they've answered them, helpers can now answer them

And information reaches the community

As opposed to the current system where you have to pray Foda is in Twitch chat early before stream

Then pray he sees your question

[steep lynx]

bug reports -> support. suggestions -> socials

[green sable]

Then pray he has time to answer

They do actually have a section in their support page for suggestions

[dusty cove]

bitching about technical changes → both
https://twitter.com/Corn_on_the_Orb/status/1575142768237748226

C͉͖̚ó̝̞r̡̪͜n̢͇͖ on the Ｏｒｂ． (@Corn_on_the_Orb)

@Brawlhalla bmg you really had to break my wiki scripts that scrape the track and missions
what have i ever done to u bmg, i buy all the dlc, say gg in postgame, and im a productive member of the community
why did u have to shoot me in the foot before i got the chance to do it myself
why😢

Twitter · Sep 28, 2022, 3:17 PM

[green sable]

This is yet another issue with the disconnect

[dusty cove]

dude you dont wanna know how often bmg breaks our workflow for the wiki

[green sable]

If there was some contact between devs and active community members, then they could have informed this guy of the change in advance and he could have been prepared

[dusty cove]

this guy?

[steep lynx]

yeah theyre not meant to accept them from the community, cause legally that community member can say that bmg stole their idea, even if they directly emailed it to them, bmg dont wanna deal with that

[dusty cove]

%bpm -u @dusty cove

[rare lark]

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Battle Pass Missions for Week 8

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[06] Grab the other team's initial Weapon spawn (/8) 📝
[06] Perform Chase Dodges (/25) 📝
[06] Rocket Lance KOs (/8)
[08] Dominate (/5) 📝
[10] Hammer Legend wins (/15)
[12] Spear Damage (/4000)
[12] Get a KO in a 1v1 match before taking 50 total damage (/10) 📝
[03] BONUS: Complete Missions for Week 8 (/4)

[green sable]

Bruh. Would it help if I explicitly state I'm waiving a legal right to it in the email?

[dusty cove]

i havent seen anyone other than me use bpm fucking use it <@&465197146749009941>

[steep lynx]

Dont think so, they just ignore bugs via the email anyway

[dusty cove]

i didnt mald on twitter for nothing

[steep lynx]

cause of that reason ^^^

[green sable]

Oh that is you?

[dusty cove]

sadly

[green sable]

Didn't realise sry

[dusty cove]

ë

[green sable]

This is what I mean about a corporate black hole email

[steep lynx]

its very cute but %asgardian is much easier rn

[green sable]

They ignore suggestions and bug reports on it

So what don't they ignore?

[dusty cove]

i bullied bot for like 3 months

you better fucking use it

[steep lynx]

Oh sorry, in my last message I meant suggestions not bugs, bug reports are fine through the email, but suggestions they cant really legally use or incorporate and just ignore them because of those issues that could arise, most other big companies also suggest to use socials as an outlet for suggestions too

[green sable]

So social media is fine but their direct email isn't?

[steep lynx]

Yeah its kinda jank but I guess theres been legal disputes in the past of a similar nature and they want to avoid it

Not with bmg specifically, as far as I know

[green sable]

It's just a mess tbh. They're essentially telling you to put your message in a bottle and throw it in the sea, hoping one day it will reach them, instead of sending it to them directly

[steep lynx]

Yeah that does suck but they're slow enough with major features LOTS of people have asked for for years, I wouldn't expect small things to happen anyway, seems just a lack of devs issue but /shrug

[green sable]

Major features take a long time to make

Little things can be done in 5 minutes

[steep lynx]

And then even with direct dev communication here basically all of the technical issues get solved by helpers, suggestions cant go to devs and bug reports mostly already get known, as nice as it would be i dont think it would be a massive change to this discord channel

[green sable]

Tbh, just giving a "Head Helper" a line of communication to the dev team would help a huge amount

You guys already carry support for BMG

The least they could do is give you the information you need to do it

[steep lynx]

tell that to them taking years and years to add training mode in queue, or an entire year for exp rematches, even a new rank which people were asking for 4 years ago shouldn't take that long

they just seem more reactive to changes, rather than proactive with them

[green sable]

The thing is, people ask for loads of things, and BMG don't seem to have any filter between serious suggestions and random ones (like "buff Mordex")

They can't filter it, they can't answer everything, so they just ignore everything

And then people get frustrated that they're being ignored

Instead, we end up with a bunch of community members doing their job for them, but without any support at all

Even some support would do wonders

[steep lynx]

Basically all the technical issues are solved or we explain why they cant be solved (like EAC isn't compatible with some systems or OS) so I dont think its really needed, If i even did have an outlet to them i'd probably just say look into new anticheat solutions (in-house 🙏) because everyone hates the anticheat and it doesn't support some platforms the game runs perfectly fine on and thats about it

maybe send them a bug or two that come up every few months, but really thats it

[green sable]

That'd be much better than the current situation

And as you're saying yourself, wouldn't even require that much

[steep lynx]

I'd expect the reply to the anticheat issue is that "we know and we're looking into it" because they do know and they probably are, and thats about it, same old helpbooth as far as im concerned

[green sable]

There are several questions that couldn't be answered here, that I ended up asking Juangana to ask the devs about

And EVENTUALLY got an answer

Just a very slightly more organised and formal version of that would work well

But having to ask a Discord Helper, then a Twitch mod, to ask a dev, or someone who knows the devs, is kinda convoluted and disorganised and not a good way to get information to the community

And the devs have the answers and are happy to give them

I caught Foda in Twitch chat once before stream

And he answered my questions

So the knowledge and ability exists, it's just not being used

[steep lynx]

Yeah and with viewership rewards if theres actually an issue with it I go to the mods on twitch there too, they are able to pass things onto the devs and have got back to me when that issue is fixed, but only twice have i ever had to do that, its either effecting everyone and they tweet about it, effecting one person and I troubleshoot with them or effecting only a few, and in that case i bring it up with the mods, but most of the issues with VR here are effecting everyone or effecting just one person (it enjoys not loading randomly for not reason)
I can think of like two instances where I've had to do that tho, dont need a direct dev line for that

Idk in the end im not opposed to it or anything, it would be an improvement, but I'd rather they sort out the whole support issue properly with a company that can handle it for everyone (including those not of age for discord, other languages, etc) better

tl;dr: buff mordex, i sleep now

[green sable]

e.g. They said on stream that you shouldn't use Network Next with a VPN. Is a mobile hotspot equivalent to a VPN for this purpose?

Literally noone can answer that except the devs

[agile maple]

for the brawlhalla pass, if i complete it all and then buy it will the petra be level 3 completion ? or do i need to buy it now
ive never bought a pass before so idk how it works

[steep lynx]

once you buy the battlepass you can start progressing the petra skin and podium, they have their own missions that progress from level 1 to 3 that show on the battlepass, even after the pass ends you can progress those missions but you dont get progress until you've bought the bp

[green sable]

The Petra skin has its own separate missions so completing the Battle Pass won't affect it. Afaik, unlocking the skin also unlocks the progression missions so you'd start from whenever you bought it. Progression missions last after the end of the Battle Pass as well

[agile maple]

Oh tysm

[green sable]

(Community helpers OP)

[steep lynx]

I can guestimate the answer being no though, the reason they say that is because VPNs use their own routing (and in the case of things like exitlag, especially designed for speed), which networknext may not be as good as, the hotspot will just use the mobile network's settings

and in a lot of cases of technical questions like this its plausible to presume the right answer, tho that is a very niche question

[dusty cove]

go to sleep

[steep lynx]

and regardless that question doesn't need a dev to answer, better to just test for yourself anyway

[steep lynx]

yes

[green sable]

I can't test it myself

And a hotspot functions like a VPN for 90% of things

So it's not obvious whether this would count

[steep lynx]

mobile on hotspot > pc connects > is networknext better or worse on pc > answer

[green sable]

Well it appears to be worse

But "appears to be worse" isn't exactly a very precise measurement, and I can't control for other factors

[dusty cove]

depends

[steep lynx]

in the end just go with what feels better or worse, some people have had network next improve, some the same and others its worse, whatever is best on your setup is what matters, regardless of what you're "supposed" to do

[green sable]

What if I can't fix the problem?

[steep lynx]

framefixunbounded should be objectively better because it removes vsync, but my game runs much smoother with just framefix

[steep lynx]

depends on the problem, I suppose

[green sable]

I'm pretty sure they didn't add Vsync to damage performance. It exists for a reason so removing it isn't going to magically improve things

There are so many reasons why it could be worse during the test period (including fallible human psychology) that without any theoretical backing I'm basically floundering in the dark

[steep lynx]

its just a limit of the engine they artificially overcome with framefixunbounded, animations are still 60fps, its definitely better on framefix for me, which is fine, its a test feature, but generally it "shouldn't" be better, thats why its always best to test with your system instead of just picking whatever generally makes the game run better

i actually haven o brain cells left i really will sleep now gn

[rose socket]

So there is ZERO controller support now for mobile

I tried sending an email to the gamepad email address & it got sent back

[limber cedar]

whats derank threshold

[proud plover]

For what rank

It’s around the 3rd level

For all