🧐pve-build-discussion

[opal furnace]

i see but have atleast All Martial Arts Damage Boost ?

[kind tree]

none , zero dmg boosts''

[opal furnace]

damn I see

[kind tree]

good thing new build needs less prec/crit so i can replace pieces to get them

[young ivy]

yeaa i had to replace a lot of my old stuff cause of the switching of my builds

[static coyote]

Try it first tho

I'm pretty sure
Prec x (Crit+Direct Crit) = 70 shouldn't give you guaranteed crits😔

But

I could be wrong this game is weird

[tidal robin]

i still dont undertand that 70% thing

[kind tree]

winds showed ppl on cn have 88% prec and 0 abrasion
he has like 96% prec and 64% ish crit and guranteed crit

[tidal robin]

seems so wrong

[kind tree]

he said cn gave up on prec for phalanx

not even needed

[static coyote]

Sounds so wrong to be fair

It goes against my knowledge in basic math

But if they say it works like that

I trust that

[tidal robin]

irritates me

[opal furnace]

since im mainly heng i still go on 80% crit

[static coyote]

Not sure

[kind tree]

his final crit rate

[fossil violet]

is it ever okay to sacrifice crit for atk?

[fading mason]

what are good mystic skills to have for a heng dao built

[static coyote]

Ah

Maths add up there, if they tested then just trust them

I can't defy the game's logic

[kind tree]

good thing i can finally drop the prec restriction

crit too

[static coyote]

I can balance it out for you once you tweak items around

[opal furnace]

i wish having a certain amount of line precision would land excatly on 100%

and not a bit above or under it

crit same excatly on 80%

[tidal robin]

yes when ur very near crit cap

[jade pendant]

just got this one. could reroll one of the silkbind damage for a critical chance roll. is it a good base to change for later ?

[static coyote]

Sure, reroll max silkbind

Only if you have enough stones tbf

If you don't save for a better item

[jade pendant]

i get 70% crit chance even without the crit chance on my ring. should i use it right now ?

[fossil violet]

I can't send images (yet) T_T but for example:

build 1: 1008-2695, 100% prec, 68.5% crit, 18.1% affinity
build 2: 1048-2550, 100, 77.6, 20.3

is build 2 still better?

[jade pendant]

it has lower penetration tho

purple stats vs golden statd

[static coyote]

Uh, what's your precision

[jade pendant]

this is my stats with that new ring

is it good ?

or at least better ?

[tidal robin]

what are u playing again?

[kind tree]

ur min climbin up and ur attr atk goin down not bad

good fixes

[fossil violet]

oh sorry forgot to mention that, i play fanbrella

[tidal robin]

build2 seems better to me

[kind tree]

keep increasing ur min/ dont really sacrifice ur max alot maintain ur crit
get rid of max attr like max bellstrike max stonesplit etcetc

[tidal robin]

ur affinity too high on build 2 though

ur trading too much crit for max phys so i think build2 is better

[jade pendant]

yeah. next imma look to replace my chest and boots, just need something with crit chance on it. havent been lucky on getting those lol

[granite moat]

Hawkwing equipped already?

[tidal robin]

u would have good leggings if u rolled the purples ones

[jade pendant]

ive only been gettting boots with affinity purple

[fossil violet]

thank you!

[fossil violet]

yes, i'm using hawking

[jade pendant]

i am also out of coin too lol

[tidal robin]

we need the morale chant nerf

then ur affinity is perfect

80%crit+20%affinity=100

but right now its 85%crit+15%affinity=100

[static coyote]

Mixed rotation?

You dont need more crit

[granite moat]

This seems like multiple pieces swap tho, is there no way you can get a 1xxx-2600, 100%, 74%, 18%?

[opal furnace]

Would be interesting

everybody always has morale chant its kinda boring

[tidal robin]

I just want the nerf so I could slap on the good affinity gear I accidentally crafted without feeling like I gutted my crit dmg

[inner osprey]

It's time ('-')

Dx

[tidal robin]

this one, in particular. affinity + min phys build ready

[opal furnace]

yoo you got that min silkbind

[kindred sundial]

[tidal robin]

I would need 7 other slots looking like this to do min phys build though

[inner osprey]

wooooo

[rare hull]

man i sure do love this game

i love never making any progress

[opal furnace]

oh yee would keep it for min surpassing your max type build

[static coyote]

Where did you spawn from btw 🤔

You just spawned one day and knew more about the game than the average player

[fossil violet]

oh yes i changed multiple pieces but i can also make it

build 1: 1111-2497, 96.5, 75.3, 19.3

build 2: 1001-2592, 96.5, 73.3, 20.3

build 3: 992-2595, 100, 72.1, 18.1

build 4: 1039-2553, 100, 76.4, 18.1

[tidal robin]

I spawned as Steve in the world of minecraft 😎

can carry infniite gold blocks in my inventory

[granite moat]

I choose number 4

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/831581492143980544/1365642989472579624/1210828173990690817.gif

[fossil violet]

ahahah alright thanks a lot!

[inner osprey]

When does this current season end? End of july-ish?

[tidal robin]

Nah. It's more like we are just people who like maths 🤓

[static coyote]

You're definitely

[granite moat]

Build 2 better than actually

[static coyote]

Rose's friend🤔

[granite moat]

Unless ur losing like

Ppen or important attune

https://klipy.com/gifs/meowtakeover6--k01KQQGK3VWEM5R22KPD9PKS6Y6

Ff anyways gn
Your bow/ring can probably make a diff

[fossil violet]

oh no, i'm only changing the def gears and they have similar skill tunings, so that's not a problem

[fossil violet]

gn too and thanks for ur help!

[faint wedge]

For fanbrella, is hawking ever used instead of rainwhisper

[inner osprey]

huh.....no shells used

[sacred socket]

Gay you mean

[sacred socket]

It's your compensation

Just have to reroll stonesplit

[static coyote]

I'd rather be gay than you ngl😭

Aren't you like a pdf?

[sacred socket]

Actually I am pansexual

[tidal robin]

if u have good affinity, it should be more dmg than rainwhisper i've heard

[faint wedge]

Is 18% considered enough?

[static coyote]

Yes

[grave escarp]

noway people already cry on the strenght buff

[tidal robin]

lol

"why nerf jade" is crazy

[faint wedge]

They’re talking about the PvP nerfs

[soft kindle]

all this while stonesplit might gets insane sleeper buffs

[grave escarp]

[tidal robin]

pvp i have no idea though

[faint wedge]

PvP wise fanbrella didn’t deserve to get nerfed

There’s like no fanbrella in top 100 lol

They gave tenacity on knockup up tho; so that’s good

[kind tree]

they think what jade got is a nerf

insane

[grave escarp]

i don't think stonesplit getting buff in pvp either

[faint wedge]

Didn’t drone dmg get inc lol

[tidal robin]

i did read alot of pvp stagger adjustments

including tb

[kind tree]

they adjusted the speedrunning lingering thing thats from what i saw other stuff got some buffs

[faint wedge]

Yeah not sure

[kind tree]

idk wheres the nerf

[signal horizon]

so is most weps on par with umbrella after update

[tidal robin]

solo jade literally got buffed

[inner osprey]

sad deluge noises

[kind tree]

also "strength already too strong" is the dumbest thing ive ever read

[tidal robin]

a strat pvper probably said taht

[signal horizon]

i saw a buncha nameless sword buffs hehe

[faint wedge]

Thank god nameless spear got nerfed

[grave escarp]

yep that one is a pain in the ahh

[kind tree]

mainly looked at pve stuff didnt even read pvp stuff cuz i dont evne play it

[tidal robin]

me neither

all i saw was 10% tb light attack buff and vendetta t2 and t5 buffs

finally

[kind tree]

Point and laugh

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-cat-catlaughing-laughingcat-point-gif-7577620470218150413

this too funny

[grave escarp]

already strong in pvp, might be, but the conclusion come from buff notes for pve , idk if people use the soul burning in pvp or not

[tidal robin]

jade complaining about other people getting op

lol

[kind tree]

im jus happy jade ppl are mad

its so good

after 7 months

[grave escarp]

i need that Jade's Grave Sticker rn lol

[sacred socket]

Jade got buffed though

[kind tree]

they still mad

thats jade players

[sacred socket]

Jade got a huge buff

[kind tree]

buff must be so big they preparing to switch to heng

[sacred socket]

Heng got a game changing buff

[opal furnace]

i dont think it would make sense tbh

cant you just parry it easy

or dodge

[sacred socket]

You can parry Heng?

Try to parry the yellow attack

[opal furnace]

you can heal so much when you just dodge heng the whole time

[sacred socket]

Yeah you have to open ghostly steps

You don't have that much vitality

[opal furnace]

I see very rarely people use phalanx heavy in pvp and everytime they do its kinda dumb imo

So this is definitly a PvE buff

[sacred socket]

Until you're in 3 v 3 or something

[static coyote]

I like how his opinion is wrong for both PvE and PvP and he's sharing a PvP devlog

[sacred socket]

And they charge that shi when sorrow comes right at you

It's full cope time

[opal furnace]

I could see it being strong catching people ofguard in 3 vs 3 or more yeah

[kind tree]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-cat-catlaughing-laughingcat-point-gif-7577620470218150413

[opal furnace]

fanbrella smh

[kind tree]

this so good i love seeing jade complaining 😭

https://tenor.com/view/i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-i-used-to-pray-meek-mill-dreams-and-nightmares-dreams-and-nightmares-michael-jordan-gif-4600240804856944817

[static coyote]

I

[tranquil walrus]

Why are people complaining about fanbrellaa tho? The nerf doesnt even affect PvE right?

[static coyote]

It affects hybrids the most

[sacred socket]

What nerf

[grave escarp]

they leave Dust in peace because Dust also has an umbrella

[sacred socket]

It's a buff

[static coyote]

To be fair nobody hates us

We are just adorable

[kind tree]

Jade Anger Cycle

1- Complain to devs
2- Accept and play
3- Switching to dust+heng cuz they gotta metaslave

[grave escarp]

yea

[tranquil walrus]

bad time to say i use fanbrella now damn :v

[static coyote]

To be fair

I don't hate Jade

[kind tree]

i DO

[tidal robin]

booboocut is the way

[static coyote]

I just hate how shared Lingering Bone made the metagame so stale for so long

[tranquil walrus]

i mean it had to be nerfed sometime i do agree

[static coyote]

Babuincut

Is the way

[tidal robin]

i dont hate nameless,strat,stonesplit,heals,etc

but Jade...

😡

[kind tree]

real bamboocut is dust + fist

twinblade is homeless

[tidal robin]

[static coyote]

To be fair jade still gona hit like, a lot 😭

So they don't have to metaslave if they don't want to

[grave escarp]

3s stunt, and again and again and again

[tranquil walrus]

Oh yeah I havent even used that cuz im the only one who plays it sort of seriously in my guild

[kind tree]

thats the insane part jade still strong they still wanna switch

insanity

[tranquil walrus]

In PvE I mean

[static coyote]

Bxas was gonna be like

"I was a heng main before it became popular"

[grave escarp]

ah yea

[tranquil walrus]

Im not talking about that, but stuff like being able to hit bosses in air, and stop certain entities witth fan wall

[static coyote]

Oh

Wait, wait, pause

[kind tree]

"i was dust since release" 😔

[tranquil walrus]

kinda gets u out of stuff a lot

[static coyote]

Remember when heng

Was about to release

And you pinged me forever to answer

[kind tree]

i was copin

[static coyote]

Heng questions

Yeah

[kind tree]

but the cope paid off

[static coyote]

You're gonna have to

Babysit

All the mfs

That come here

[kind tree]

https://tenor.com/view/point-gif-2450101530054484962

[static coyote]

Looking for a home

Yes

[tranquil walrus]

Im so fn glad they nerfed blazing bow

[static coyote]

Or I'll bribe Codyno tu mute you and change your name to Bxas femael

[kind tree]

i already did todday so tired already

[tranquil walrus]

The bow spammers in PF gonna be so sad

[static coyote]

"Bxas faek heng pla er"

[tranquil walrus]

Now nerf nameless in GvG

[sacred socket]

They buffed other classes

[kind tree]

let nameless be strong somwhere man

[sacred socket]

It's the same as nerfing nameless

[tidal robin]

if u nerf nameless in gvg all the nameless gonna be homeless

[kind tree]

whats the new order u predicting ? for pve tiers

forgot

in parses

[tidal robin]

namless=homeless

[opal furnace]

when you swap weapons to heng blade and it gets a free Varied Combo.

Does that only work with Phalanx ?

[tranquil walrus]

Yeah but its kinda boring when u see 20 nameless ppl in GvG

Need more variety and strategy

[kind tree]

idk never did gvg me homeless 140ms

once i get my server i might

do some pvp

[tranquil walrus]

Brother my guild runs NA regions

Its 340ms ping

[sacred socket]

You get a free quick charge if you use Mo blade special

[tranquil walrus]

Always

[static coyote]

Idk xD

[sacred socket]

340 ping???

[tranquil walrus]

Im used to it now

[static coyote]

Dust should stay the lowest

[kind tree]

im hopin might above jade at least

[sacred socket]

Jade is bottom

But it got buffed

[kind tree]

how ? dust already doing 34k now with these buffs should be doing well? or they arent that crazy of a buff?

[static coyote]

Dust is always meant to be the weakest I think

[grave escarp]

idk how tbh, devs could lower the dmg of Nameless if it hit multiple targets maybe but still that would make everyone change to Dust

[static coyote]

Dmg wise

[kind tree]

its higher than nameless rn

[sacred socket]

Dust was the strongest at one point

[static coyote]

Dust has a spot in the T0 home because they're cute bebe debuffers

Dust is like bebe toolbox

Can use different stuff for different raids

[sacred socket]

Healers are the real t0

[static coyote]

You always want 1

[kindred sundial]

[kind tree]

are there any beneifts of having more than 1 dust orr

[tranquil walrus]

well, they could do less interrupt for sword waves, or do it kinda like fanbrella, where after the first bunch its diminishing return, and lower the QI shield time or capacity for EX skill

[static coyote]

Not really

[sacred socket]

Apart from missing DPS

[kind tree]

they should give dust lingering atp

[static coyote]

You always want one tho

[kind tree]

worth frfr

[static coyote]

That's the catch

Even if dust is good now I'm not sure playerbase will incline towards playing it to be fair :l

[sacred socket]

That's cap

[static coyote]

I see people really spamming the shít out of heng and nameless in a future

[sacred socket]

If something is good there will be people playing it

[tranquil walrus]

I mean im trying dust its kinda fun, its just i kinda wish it had more feedback for perfect catch, like screen edge lighting or sm sht, i dun wannaa stare at my hands

[sacred socket]

Muscle memory

[static coyote]

U

[tranquil walrus]

yeah guess i havent played it enuf

[static coyote]

I listen

Idk

How I do it

I just do it while watching tv

[opal furnace]

i wish i could put the n.sword to the right waist

[static coyote]

Like, you get used to how fast the umbrella travels I guess

[grave escarp]

imagine dust Physical Resistance reduction could stack with multiple Dusts

[tranquil walrus]

aah ok

[static coyote]

That would be nasty 😭

-20 phys res is a lot tbf

[kind tree]

i hope they never get the gear
gotta gatekeep

but heng build about to be so easy now

[static coyote]

+%6 defense reduction too not bad

[tranquil walrus]

ill try it a little more to get used to it ig, i got it mainly for GvG as my 2nd set

[kind tree]

[static coyote]

Bro

Just enjoy the game

I want new servers to not suck

[grave escarp]

we could make a raid boss feel like a camp creep

[kind tree]

woah whats that thing

[static coyote]

Idk man I'm miserable

[kind tree]

idk what taht means

my only purpose is jade hate

[static coyote]

I'm 100% gonna ruin my schedule today so I can nap through the update

Tomorrow

[tidal robin]

our playerbase about to be looking like cn's soon

all hengdao and nameless

[static coyote]

Yeah

I agree

[kind tree]

u think ppl will comeback

cuz idk

old players

[static coyote]

20% dust, 30% heng 30% nameless 20% all others

Lol

[haughty oracle]

🥀

allat just to suffer through nine hours of talents

[static coyote]

Yes

[grave escarp]

nah who stay will stay, just new people, i don't think who left gonna be back at all

[tranquil walrus]

some of us are just in it for the vibes man

[static coyote]

Are you ready???

[haughty oracle]

hell ye

[static coyote]

ARE YOU READY????

DID YOU STUDY THE VIDEOS

[tidal robin]

people who left the game definitely dont come back

[static coyote]

GAAAAA

[haughty oracle]

i dont even have to ruin my schedule

[haughty oracle]

maintenance is from 1am-8am

[static coyote]

Maintenance is from

5pm to 00:00 for me

[kind tree]

good tbh i dont have to stay up

its from 12am to 7am for me really good time for maintaince

[haughty oracle]

you need to wake up like

[kind tree]

at 6 or 7

[haughty oracle]

earlier

[static coyote]

Between 6 or 7 am

[haughty oracle]

at WHAT

[tidal robin]

🤨

[haughty oracle]

where are my PATCH notes cuh

wheres my SOULSHADE fx

[kind tree]

imagine they give us phalanx horse effect

ill explode

[haughty oracle]

ill kill you

and everyone in this server

[static coyote]

Just to get dust vfx and lion's roar vfx

[tranquil walrus]

wait are we getting the Thunderous bloom changes and stuff in this patch aas welll?

[static coyote]

I need

Soaring vfx

[tranquil walrus]

This stuff?

[static coyote]

[haughty oracle]

wheres my SOARING vfx

i have 2 sound jades just sitting

collecting dust

[static coyote]

Audrin

Friend

I'm going to be honest with you

Probably none of us read through jade notes

[kindred sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-3-chi-po-dragon-general-kai-gif-3231145942349320529

[haughty oracle]

fist healers got buffed through mystic skill fixes and umbrella 24% buff

[tranquil walrus]

Yeaaah thats fair

[haughty oracle]

im crine

[static coyote]

We all know

Lingering bone is not getting shared

[kindred sundial]

Does someone know the details of the new Seasonal Edge? With the vitality buff thing

[static coyote]

And that the stun is shorter in pvp now

[tranquil walrus]

oh ok

[haughty oracle]

vitality?

[kindred sundial]

Where's your T6 Seasonal Edge

[static coyote]

Yes

[tranquil walrus]

Yeah Ill look into it a little more, I thought this buff level was way later

[kindred sundial]

Healer meta

[mortal hedge]

With the new patch is the mix heng dao rotation better? Not going to be home for a while to test myself

[kindred sundial]

memorii is gone

[mortal hedge]

I run the normal build + envigorated warrior but with the new buff I’m curious if it’s better

[kind tree]

this reminded me i dont even have seasonal edge

too broke to get rn

[kindred sundial]

I haven't even unlocked it

[tranquil walrus]

same

[haughty oracle]

the change just mentions seasons

idk what either does

[tranquil walrus]

5k jade for that is insane

[kindred sundial]

#1447733071595045045 message

[haughty oracle]

bro

is it replacing fury harvest

[kindred sundial]

bro

I have no frickin clue

Get your inners in order

Conversion-ready

[kind tree]

memorii fell off not best healer anymore where seasonal t6

[haughty oracle]

twin

who gave a fück about seasonal edging

until rn

[kind tree]

u gotta edge it now

first fister to 40k trust

[frigid raptor]

hi
can u help pls, how to unlock plants built in solo mode?

[tranquil walrus]

which plants? like decorations?

[haughty oracle]

well i can't even unlock edging rn

until after i finish exploration in palace

[kindred sundial]

memorii fell off, eh

[haughty oracle]

i mean

what is it even gonna replace

[tidal robin]

id love some seasonal edging

[haughty oracle]

[kindred sundial]

I edge every season too

[tranquil walrus]

@frigid raptor The place to ask that is #🌱beginner-questions . But mostly you just buy recipes from merchants across the map, if you click on it it should show u were to get it

[tranquil walrus]

The whole season?

[kindred sundial]

[kind tree]

bhorgc always edges

[tawny quest]

What’s with seasonal edging

[haughty oracle]

buff useful for healers apparently

[tawny quest]

Memorii goat

Hey Proto

[kindred sundial]

Will it replace IW

[tawny quest]

[kindred sundial]

Drowning in vitality

[tawny quest]

Memorii going to bust

[inner osprey]

We only got a 4% dmg increase on the umbrella q buff (20% to 24%)

[haughty oracle]

ik

[tawny quest]

They buffed soulshade to give 24% damage also

[kindred sundial]

Gotta check which buff you receive from seasonal

[tawny quest]

[haughty oracle]

seasonal edge is getting buffed

and apparently its good on healers

but idk what itd replace

maybe remedy JUST for speeds but you lose some direct crit

maybe it doesn't matter that much

[tawny quest]

[inner osprey]

It was already giving 20%. A 4% increase

[kindred sundial]

[tawny quest]

Oh

I thought it was a bigger buff

Well it’s still more fisting damage

Memorii be fisting

[haughty oracle]

mystic skills are getting fixed

adding attribute dmg pretty much

so we got an indirect buff

[tawny quest]

https://tenor.com/view/22jumpstreet-channing-tatum-gif-6331882

[haughty oracle]

[lucid oriole]

wtf censor made it sound worse

[tawny quest]

Censor go brrr

[lucid basalt]

​​honestly, why is there a raid tips in CN while in Global the only Raid boss tips we have is the Void king bruh

[wide gate]

Ok so many changes sm1 wanna give me the summary

[tidal robin]

Use AI

[wide gate]

U can be my AI

[grave escarp]

so what's your build rn

[wide gate]

I have tangdao and both bellstrike

[grave escarp]

massive buff, the rest are trash (not might), especially Jade

[wide gate]

Finally Jade

[grave escarp]

[wide gate]

Tangdao situation atm

Lots to fix

[tawny quest]

[wide gate]

I can get like 3-4 more crit lines

[grave escarp]

seems pretty good after buff tho, you only need 70% crit rate todo 100% crit

iirc 95% prec and 70% crit rate on hengdao should do it

[tidal robin]

Hengdao getting free crit?

[tawny quest]

Doesn’t tang dao only need 70-75%

[grave escarp]

yea that

[wide gate]

Switch rotation is guaranteed crits with phalanxblade so

[haughty oracle]

guaranteed deez

[grave escarp]

yea free crit

[tawny quest]

NUTS

[tidal robin]

That makes more sense now

[wide gate]

Goddddd i need 60 MM…

[tawny quest]

Hawk rng so good

[tidal robin]

I was reading everyone only need 70% crit

[wide gate]

Sm1 donate

[tawny quest]

[haughty oracle]

eh

you need 7 more

not just 60

[tawny quest]

[wide gate]

True

But I also need 2 ffb

69

[grave escarp]

somekind of math is going on here but yea

[wide gate]

With direct im alr at like 78%

[static coyote]

You're at like 75%

[haughty oracle]

saying an entire sentence just to tell the time is crazy

[static coyote]

You're overcapped a little bit post patch

[wide gate]

i really need to read this patch

[static coyote]

75.7525%

[haughty oracle]

just read for heng

[static coyote]

Damn, dry reset today lmao

Okay gonna nap to ruin my sleep schedule

[haughty oracle]

😭

[rare hull]

so real

[viscid pendant]

https://www.wherewindsmeetgame.com/news/official/Adjustment528.html
Looks like there're a lot of things, not just pvp related.
nsword now deals hilarious amount of qi damage, with some QoL

[jade pendant]

is the patch lived yet ?

[kindred sundial]

#game-announcement message

[wide gate]

Holy

Nameless buffs are HUGE

[tawny quest]

Indeed

[wide gate]

Qol on qian lock + boss qi dmg + hp dmg buff

[tawny quest]

I am eating

[wide gate]

Crazy

[tawny quest]

How I feel as a nameless main

[wide gate]

I am the OP of the nameless thread in wsr

[jade pendant]

ah thks. so tomorrow midnight for me

[tawny quest]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-season-3-club-spongebob-eating-gif-12593918381187161548

[wide gate]

I will be there

[tawny quest]

Oh you wrote it

I have to know why 85% precision

[jade pendant]

i like the heng dao buff we're getting tbh

[tidal robin]

Big brain

[tawny quest]

The rest makes sense

But I don’t understand why 85%

[jade pendant]

heng dao looks cooler than nameless anyway

it has style

[tidal robin]

To get more max phys probably

[wide gate]

That part wasnt me but its the cn heirloom system

[tawny quest]

[wide gate]

I think in a group the new weps boost prec

[tawny quest]

Ok

[wide gate]

So folks care about it less

[tidal robin]

Wtf

[wide gate]

Drum is op as hell

[jade pendant]

tbh, i dont like the swords movesets.

[tidal robin]

Ohhh

Noway

[wide gate]

Yeahh

[tidal robin]

Free precision

[jade pendant]

they arent flashy enough

[wide gate]

Wep is broken

[tidal robin]

Interesting

[jade pendant]

still not flashy enough tho

[wide gate]

So its some funky build with that

Time to keep reading

[tawny quest]

Ok well Pete a peasant

Thanks for answering cause that was bugging tf out of me

[wide gate]

My god

Basic Effect Adjustments: Reduced the forward movement distance when releasing multiple Sword Energies. Continuing to charge after completing Stage 2 Charge will no longer consume Endurance. The extra DMG Boost per point of Endurance consumed upon release is increased from 1% to 1.5%, and the max DMG Boost limit from consuming Endurance is raised to 30%.

[jade pendant]

thanks to tier 6 of nameless its just energy wave spamming. its dull. just hold 1 button for the dps and just use the spear to reduce the stamina cost lol. its boring

[wide gate]

HOLY SHT WHAT THEY DOING TO NAMELESS

[tawny quest]

Nameless is tier 0.5

Hengdao and dust are t0

[jade pendant]

i meant the inner ways associated with the weapon

[jade pendant]

not with the next patch buffes 😉

[tawny quest]

I was talking to hawk

[tidal robin]

lol

[jade pendant]

i am still replying regardless. i answered your question.

[tawny quest]

T0 is the best though

[wide gate]

Im tryinf to understand the strat changes

Does fivefold find its way in over Insightful??

[jade pendant]

if you mean its ranked in reverse chronological order, then yes, tier 0 would be at the top lol

where is heng dao dps wise in cn ?

[wide gate]

Inner Way "Wolfchaser's Art" Tier 4 effect addition: Using the Special Skill "Sweep All" during the "Empowered River Flow" effect will inflict an additional instance of "High Bleeding" (without clearing Bleeding stacks), with a 12-second effective interval.

So now spear q can proc bleed

[viscid pendant]

2. The Martial Art Skill "Qiankun's Lock" in the Martial Art "Nameless Spear" now inflicts "Immobilized" when hitting non-Boss targets. When hitting Boss targets, it inflicts the "Qi Imbalance" state, increasing the Qi Damage taken by the target for its duration. This compensates for the inability to immobilize Bosses and strengthens the Path's characteristics.

Tier 1 Effect Adjustments: The original Tier 1 effect is merged into Tier 0. Added a new Tier 1 effect: Hitting a Boss target with any Martial Art Skill of the "Bellstrike - Splendor" Path will inflict the "Qi Imbalance" state.

nspear is still a stick, but its innerway makes nswordQ apply Qi damage debuff from far away noice

[jade pendant]

where do you think heng dao will sit on the dps chart when the game balance is fully completed ?

[tawny quest]

Uh considering they keep changing it no one knows

[wide gate]

Biggest change with insightful is honesty gonna be the bellstrike scaling being changed to max attack and physical

That’s HUGE

[tawny quest]

Insightful over morale

[mild path]

honk honk!

[wide gate]

Yeah u drop morale for sure

[jade pendant]

its still the flashiest melee dps weapon. beside fist, and fist, isn't out yet so.

[viscid pendant]

yep i only notice that and insightful giving direct affinity

[tawny quest]

Insightful go brrrr

[wide gate]

Yeah that that buff makes it viable alone

[tawny quest]

Literally Pete rn

[jade pendant]

i also prefer weapon to bare fist for fighting. more realistic tbh

[tawny quest]

https://tenor.com/view/astromaddy-astromaady-astromadddy-gif-26536606

I don’t have any inners to swap to insightful

[wide gate]

Time to keep reading

[wide gate]

Bin morale

[tawny quest]

I can’t swap morale to insightful

[jade pendant]

why are you bothering ? its the same patch as cn. You can just go on youtube to see the meaningful change to each weapons lol

[wide gate]

Farm

[tawny quest]

I have plenty of the currency

I just have no boxes left

[wide gate]

Wait its their current patch??

Then hengdao is busted op

[tawny quest]

Yeah CN has hengdao and dust as top 2 dps

[jade pendant]

no, its not their current patch. they had a slight nerf ot heng dao afterward. like a 2% or 4% nerf to overall damage cause it was too strong. cn version is still 2 patch ahead even after this patch.

[wide gate]

That’s why u farm a 2nd set all t6

[tawny quest]

I’m working on it

I have terrible rng

[wide gate]

Got it but thats a huge jump for us regardless

[tawny quest]

I currently have t5 at 120/200 for one

[wide gate]

U got a video I can check out to see everything

[jade pendant]

you play heng dao ? and yes, its a huge jump. its a nice qol for the weapon that also increases dps too. the weapon needed it tbh.

[wide gate]

I play heng and both bellstrike yeah

Lmao they murdered Silkbind Jade

[haughty oracle]

heng went from t3 to t0 in one patch

im crine

[wide gate]

The trigger condition for the "Unfading Flower" Ballistic Enhancement Effect is adjusted. It now only triggers when hitting targets in the "Airborne" state or targets marked with your "Lingering Bone".

LOL

LMFAOOO

[jade pendant]

i mean i already auto stagger people in arena with only my charge attack from the heng dao, cause i have low ping, it always catches people. so i can just keep staggering people unless they use hyperarmor skills lol so i can just spam charge attacks in pvp and 100 to 0 people with our weakest attack on the current patch. that is unless they use hyperarmor skills. the weapon is bursted for arena when you have low ping lol

[turbid sky]

The Hengdao buff they announced isnt the CN one they got a while ago right?

i cant remember

[wide gate]

Ut is

It is

[turbid sky]

oh

well thats good

[wide gate]

Games done Hangdao supremacy

[jade pendant]

yes.

then they got a 4% damage nerf. but even afterward it is still a good weapon

still, what we'll get this patch, is likely the peak of heng dao.

in term of damage potential

unless they suddenly buff everything monsters in the game and have to increase our damage even further later on, this is the peakest heng dao you'll get

[tawny quest]

It’s ok silkbind jade got nuked

[wide gate]

Lmao

Tier 0 Effect Adjustment: The extra HP Damage dealt by the Heavy Attack Varied Combo "Snowbreak Spring" against non-player targets is increased from 20% to 36%, providing higher returns in PvE.

Straight up 16% t0 😭 😭

The Special Skill "Fleeting Trace" ("Snowparting Blade") now applies 4 stacks of "Inner Passion". Releasing "Snowbreak Spring" consumes 1 stack to deal an extra 40% HP Damage to non-player targets.

[jade pendant]

please, tell me they gave counterplay to the combo they used in pvp where they just swoop you into the air on repeat, without you being able to do anything about it. the damage on that combo has no right to be this high for something people cannot get out of lol

[tawny quest]

Imma be honest

I don’t care at all about PvP

[jade pendant]

its a pain to deal with everytime

[tawny quest]

That’s #⚔️pvp-build-discussion problems

[jade pendant]

they litterally uses moves you cannot evade or get out of and then execute you on repeat. its a disgusting meta, its been a thing since the first patch lol

[tawny quest]

Pete go brrrr for pve

[undone ocean]

what's a good gear set for strat sword?

[jade pendant]

if would be better if they lowered the damage of that combo tbh. or make it evadable or cancelable with serene breeze at least tbh

[tawny quest]

Hawking + eaglerise

[jade pendant]

but its currently not. so every ranged umbrella+fan users uses it. so every time im against one, im waiting to see if they know that combo to decide if im just gonna give the match up or not.

its frustrating tbh

on that note, ill do a little nap. im tired.

searching for a job is tiring.

especially in this economy

[wide gate]

Tier 3 Effect Adjustment: While under "Inner Passion", hitting with "Mo Blade Anxi Soldier" grants a 10-second "Adept". Additionally, if the "Final Effective Critical Rate" reaches 70%, "Burning Heart" and Anxi Soldier Assists are guaranteed to critically hit; if below 70%, the Critical Rate is increased (Final Effective Critical Rate considers the combined effects of Precision Rate, Critical Rate, and Direct Critical Rate).

Wow

[jade pendant]

if you have one. keep it, its horrendous out there

[wide gate]

So anything over 70% is wastage

Completely

[jade pendant]

is what i said. i am at 70% atm.

[wide gate]

So i need to LOSE crit

[jade pendant]

btw, do we get new breakthrough on that patch ?

[wide gate]

No

Bt still 15 days out

[jade pendant]

time to reroll lol

[wide gate]

Thats crazy bro max attack here I come

[jade pendant]

over optimizing on something that changes is never a good idea. you just wasted time and now you'll have to refarm a lot lol

[wide gate]

Yeah fr..

Basically gotta lose 2 lines of crit

I can probably use some of my umbra gear

[jade pendant]

is why i am waiting for us to get the final balance patch, to get deep into optimizing my gear long term.

no point to optimize otherwise if there is always an extra tier to get to.

[wide gate]

I basically want 61% crit now

[jade pendant]

it only needs to be "good enough"

to work.

[tidal robin]

[jade pendant]

@wide hornet let us know the new heng dao rotation 2 days from now. i am curious as to what it will looks like tbh

[undone ocean]

do you think it's worth getting mistwillow instead of eagle because I have unfettered dart as a secondary?

[tidal robin]

u can always click on their character to look at their gear

[jade pendant]

tbh, i want more stuff to do in the game, beyond exploration. combat stuff for pve that doesn't take energy

stuff that gives us cosmetic things maybe

like skins and whatnot

maybe an event like that would be good to give us something to do lol

[tidal robin]

what they playing?

[jade pendant]

there is no point in having all that high level gear, if we cannot use it on anything lol

[tidal robin]

and what boss

it matters alot

[tough isle]

boss talents give a damage boost too

[jade pendant]

some, not all.

on that note. its nap time for me. cya !

and what class are you ?

[tidal robin]

do they have a speedrunner title?

lol

and do u have 2800 max phys and good triple rates?

they might

[tough isle]

it is interesting that the game made a system where the more damage you do the more rare loot you get lmao

[viscid pendant]

how high damage are we talking about?

[jade pendant]

when did that happened exactly ?

[calm thorn]

Will there be guild techniques to help in the guild tower/skyward bond?

[jade pendant]

cause its not in-game atm last i checked lol

[tidal robin]

umbra can do 40k right now i think if boss dont move

low ping good umbra player

[static coyote]

Yay

I made it to legend I 😄

[viscid pendant]

now that's awkward

[jade pendant]

in pvp ? nice !

i once made it to low mythic

on mo blade and spear too lol

[static coyote]

Just playing dust

No idea what I'm doing XD

[jade pendant]

lol

past veteran i didn't even felt a difference in player skill tbh. its only when i went into mythic that i saw a skill difference and only vs some people too lol

[fresh rune]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-seal-dance-kad-kadinhou-sfc-gif-27260805

[wide gate]

Lol

I need 1 roll back

[jade pendant]

i already have 70% jokes on you lol

tho, me i need to increase my min damage lol

[kind tree]

dont have ur min that low

[tidal robin]

not enough information to go by at all...

[jade pendant]

its better than mine lol

[tidal robin]

need stats

and rotation

[jade pendant]

im at 1k min damage on heng dao lol

if only i had more energy to get more gear. the game capping me is frustrating.

[kind tree]

thing is when ur hit is critical it rolls randomly between ur min/max atk so if ur min is 900 and max is 2600 u could get smth bad

[wide gate]

Ill reroll one of my crit retunes

[kind tree]

but having min at 1300+ lowers the bad possibilites

[pastel pagoda]

Ping difference*

[jade pendant]

im just force to play other game while i wait for energy to restore itself. i wish we could just keep getting gear forever lol

[tidal robin]

getting more min does lower the possibilities of bad rolls yes but on avg getting more max still yields more dmg

[jade pendant]

i have 30 average ping lol

[pastel pagoda]

U play someone with single digit you're cooked

You play someone with 70 they're cooked

[tidal robin]

the truly viable min phys is the min phys in all min phys build

[kind tree]

this better, dont try change much u can see ur new crit once the patch is live maybe they do some weird changes u never know

[wide gate]

Alright

[jade pendant]

so, ping is determining who wins, not skills ? that sucks

[pastel pagoda]

Low ping means you walk out of combos for free if their ping is x amount higher

Yeah

[jade pendant]

tho, the new servers change for matchmaking from last patch is supposed to help with that no ?

[pastel pagoda]

You recover faster and have faster attack speed🤦‍♂️

[pastel pagoda]

This patch coming apparently

Or so they claim

[jade pendant]

the servers matchmaking are already out my guy

[kind tree]

u already have like single digit ping u dont need to worry lol

[pastel pagoda]

No they said something about ping not being tied to combos anymore

[tidal robin]

[pastel pagoda]

Which is the main reason the PvP is a joke

[kind tree]

u have high hopes, they aint fixing that fully

[jade pendant]

my bad, it says upcoming optimisation patches on may 8, and it is the last update on the steam page.

so they are not in yet

[jade pendant]

that would also be a good thing tbh

the silkbind jade rotation.

(for real tho ask a silkbind jade player, im not one of them)

[tidal robin]

the daddy rotation

[jade pendant]

im trying to nap over here. im in my bed.

[pastel pagoda]

6. Added a level adjustment for escaping the Hit state: The timing for Wanderers with different network latencies to escape a hit via Dodge, Deflect, or movement will remain exactly the same. Wanderers with high latency will no longer escape hits later than those with low latency.

I believe it when I see it though

[jade pendant]

i assume those are the keys you must press to do the combo ?

[jade pendant]

nice, for parry will be useful now lol

[tidal robin]

its the rotation with most dmg for fanbrella on where math meets or something

[jade pendant]

btw, there is a nvidia driver update downloading on my pc. and i was up to date yesterday. just a heads up. update your drivers

it released today

like just now,

im at 2%

good rngs and lots of time.

and consistency too.

needs to come back everytime your energy is full

cause you can only get good gear by spending energy and energy is time gated

[tidal robin]

the more u play the more ur gear avgs to be good

AND the more u tune, including purples

[jade pendant]

i just let it regen to max and get to play more when its full. i play others games when i wait for that.

takes like 3 to 4 days to max energy

beside that, i just do my dailies and then i play something else lol.

[obtuse spruce]

Pay2win

[jade pendant]

i spend like not even an hours in-game most of the time.

[jade pendant]

the 2 energy pills from the battlepass dont make much of a difference bro. this game is really f2p friendly if you compared to other games. they just monetie cosmetic and battlepass doesn't you much more energy lol

its like, maybe a full refill over the course of a month and something its not even enough to be a single 5 legendary gear lol

and its not 5 legendary gear a month, that is gonna make a difference lol

its not like you can buy weapon with real money lol. not ones with stats that affects combats lol

not in a amount that will make a big difference tbh.

me ? i use heng dao.

[obtuse spruce]

I was kidding man

[jade pendant]

but that weapon sucks atm, and my build does too

[obtuse spruce]

It's just rng, need luck.

[jade pendant]

i used to be a tank, but i refunded my inners ways and skills to invest them into heng dao lol. im still sitting on 3k ticket to buy the last 600 chest for inners ways notes

and often times, i refund most of it. so always get 3k back lol.

i keep getting thrash inner way notes lol.

like he said, just luck

cause i had a 1k echo jade cost for every conversion. i messed around with some build and didnt felt like farming 1k echo jade when i had barely 50 lol

i basically refunded everything and putting everything into heng dao lol

maybe. but i got immediate results

dopamine receptors hits

dopamine goods.

i like dopamine

😉

it keeps things fresh

and new

and smaller objective feels better than a huge objective that feels it would take a long time.

like the french would say. "j'avais la flèmme"

to that picture, i say yes.

wait for long enough to have perm. and copy paste them from your clipboard

no links allowed in here

[daring osprey]

does anyone have a list of all affixes on gear and prob rate (i swear I saw an image on reddit somewhere)...

[jade pendant]

are some affix really rare ?

like is there some kind of 1% bs affix you need to get ?

[daring osprey]

yeah like martial art boost etc

[jade pendant]

most people dont need those tbh

[daring osprey]

yea just wanna see what the possible rolls are on gear

[jade pendant]

you dont even wants them, unless you are doing something very specific. so i dont see the point tbh

most of the time, ther stats are better too.

just stick with rcmb stats lol

or the stats in the guide from pins.

its updated often.

nearly everytime there is a change on a weapon

[inner osprey]

I'm trying to flute/toad poison like 20 people in gvg.

They stack on top of each other right? Like if I were to get 8 flute buff affixes, my flute does ~70% more dmg?

[jade pendant]

i am wondering. does the pvp section have builds ?

[jade pendant]

then you use triple jump golden palm and the bell skill 😛

[onyx crown]

Afaik no

[jade pendant]

tho it likely wouldn't works

people would just dodge those lol

[jade pendant]

why not ?

i kinda wanted to know what affix to get for pvp for my heng dao tbh

without any guide, its kinda hard to tell tbh

[inner osprey]

balls of meat

[jade pendant]

balls of meat + fire scroll

[onyx crown]

Pve guide was made by an User here so if some pvp player would make an guide there would be one

[jade pendant]

pyromancy scroll to be precise

[tidal robin]

Wait it’s ball of meat now?

[inner osprey]

Put deez balls in your mouth.

[tidal robin]

Where do I get those

[inner osprey]

Yes, it makes you stronger.

[jade pendant]

why is there none tho ?

[inner osprey]

pvpers apparently suck at making guides.

[onyx crown]

Again cause not one pvp player sat down and Made one

[jade pendant]

sad.

yes. increases the duration of fire on your weapon

[onyx crown]

#🧐pve-build-discussion message

[jade pendant]

the scroll is red

with like a white flame on it.

[tidal robin]

Ty

It’s called fire divinecraft lol

[onyx crown]

Longer duration =U use less =cost efficient

[tidal robin]

Also there’s a new crit dmg scroll

[jade pendant]

so it last longer for your rotation. the fire will keep ticking for longer between hits, making your whole rotation be 1 big chunk of damage, instead of multiple smaller chunk

[inner osprey]

why worry about cost efficiency? Just run around with thousands of them

[jade pendant]

doesn't it also reduces crit chance tho ?

[tidal robin]

[onyx crown]

T6 scolar affinity dmg scroll crit dmg scrolls and mystic skill boost

[jade pendant]

i thought iwas +10 crit dmg and - 10% crit chance on the crit scroll no ?

under certains condition that is

[onyx crown]

Like i know im a fister i always use mystic skill boost one

[tidal robin]

Yes

[jade pendant]

also, those only works when an enemy is below 40% hp

[pine acorn]

any changes to dps for hengdao ?

[tidal robin]

Ye so?

Anything to parse

And it’s cheap to craft

Why wouldn’t u

[inner osprey]

aye that one is nice. d('-')

[tidal robin]

Gotta show off to ur guild mates

[jade pendant]

well it make you crit less no ? so for splitstone weapon its bad.

[tidal robin]

Meatball scrolls and everything

No

It doesn’t reduce crit

[jade pendant]

for real ?

also how much damage is fire on my weapon ? is it the same as a fire breath ?

[crimson canyon]

wow

i forgot about that

[jade pendant]

cause i might just start using the crit scroll if its better tbh.

especially when i test my damage on the dummy lol

tho, im not sure the dummy gets to be 40% hp or below unless you set a maximum hp to it lol

else i think it doesn't damage right ?

beside qi damage that is.

from what i recall from earlier that is.

tbh, just set the hp maximum to like 3m and you should be good lol

last i checked in the training settings lol

for the dummy that is.

[static coyote]

I'm a bebe that made it to 2500 >:)

[sage orchid]

strat + hq build, T6 sword horizon or T6 morale chant first ?

[sharp gale]

Inner Way "Sword Horizon" Tier 3 effect adjustment: The guaranteed Affinity skill after fully stacking "Sword's Zenith" is changed from "Zenith Sword" to "High Bleeding". The Tier 6 effect description has been updated accordingly.

what this does?

[rugged stratus]

guaranteed affinity hit on blood burst instead of cross attack

[sharp gale]

which movc is this

[rugged stratus]

2nd part of special

blood burst is the main source of damage

so it's an improvement

[tidal robin]

wait? does this mean breaking point is free on db/rope now?

[sharp gale]

isnt main souirce of damage is bleed explosive

[rugged stratus]

that's blood burst

[sharp gale]

are you sure, its like mega big amount of damage

[rugged stratus]

wdym?

blood burst is the main source of damage, blood burst is becoming guaranteed affintiy hit when zenith bar is full

[sharp gale]

so every burst is guaranteed affinity?

[rugged stratus]

no, only when zenith bar is full

[sharp gale]

wit then what changed?

isnt it like that now?

[rugged stratus]

cross attack is not blood burst

it's the returning hit

[frozen spoke]

Anyone know about what is HP DAMAGE DO

[viscid vortex]

@sharp gale r u brain dmg

[static coyote]

Boost damage done to the enemy HP bar only.

Doesn't affect Qi damage.

[sacred shoal]

Do you know what does Qi Damage do

[rapid kiln]

Does WWM have a wiki/website of all the bosses' moves?

[static coyote]

Damage to the Qi bar 😭?

[sacred shoal]

Oh ok ok

[frozen spoke]

So what damage that HP damage is boosted is that diferent to regular damage boost

[static coyote]

HP damage -> damage done to the HP bar
Qi damage -> damage done to the Qi bar
Direct Damage -> damage done to both but not all sources, doesn't apply to DoT and stuff like thar as far as I know
Danage -> overall damage increase to both

And I don't truly know to which specific attacks they affect and to which they don't to be fair

I wish there was a clasification or something in game for us to look at

So I could know what does the game consider as Inner Way damage source or just damage from the martial arts😭

I kinda want to know because I'm not sure if Sword Morph t6 is considered damage from inner way or not

[frozen spoke]

So if my damage is 10000 then damage boost 10℅ to 11000 and then HP damage 10℅ is increase again to 12200 is like that i just confuse 😂

[static coyote]

Basically yeah, they're multipliers that apply after base damage has been calculated

Which type of modifier? Not sure, there are external modifiers, inner way modifiers, pen modifier and so on

I don't truly know which buff is which type, game doesn't tell us either

[frozen spoke]

I think HP damage is the finall damage we hit to the boss right

[static coyote]

Ah wait

So if you get uh

10% something as a modifier and the base of said modifier is 1

You're now multypling the value by 1.1

So if you have 20%

Just 1.2 and so on

So second value would just be 12000 not 12200

[frozen spoke]

Oh wait i do the wrong math 10 ℅ 11000 is 1100 so its 12100

Nvm

[static coyote]

Same type of multipliers should stack in this case

You're multiplying twice

So instead of doing
10000x1.1x1.1
You should be doing
10000x1.2

[frozen spoke]

Yeah fist one is damage boost off moral chant second one is HP damage boost

[static coyote]

To be fair, I don't know how they interact in that case

I don't know if they are additive towards hp damage and then multiply the value while damage applies only to the Qi damage

Or if they're multiplicative and multiplyHP damage twice ans Qi damage once

[frozen spoke]

So its a final answer wich one is batter is that damage boost or HP damage bost

[static coyote]

Damage is better

Modifies both HP and Qi damage + some sources Direct Damage doesn't

[frozen spoke]

Ty very much u just recover my logic again now i understand

[static coyote]

That's actually a really interesting question you just made uh

[lone crow]

am I reading it correctly, after the patch stonesplit might can hold stacks of the exquisite scenery counter?

[static coyote]

Ye, swap back to spear and then back to mo and cast it

[agile shadow]

[static coyote]

BEBE

U back

[agile shadow]

Didn't we yap here yesterday

[static coyote]

I don't know 🙁

I forgot

[agile shadow]

[turbid crag]

why is brok having new badge again

[sacred shoal]

[static coyote]

[agile shadow]

I'm a new player

Help me pls

[agile shadow]

Hello cutie

[tawny quest]

@agile shadow well well well

Look who’s back

[agile shadow]

Hola proto shipper

I need 3 protos asap

[tawny quest]

Have you come back to ship Bork x proto to

[static coyote]

😭

[agile shadow]

I came back for this

[tawny quest]

Did you come back for death of Jade

[agile shadow]

Yes

[tawny quest]

Jade got cooked

It was gorgeous

[agile shadow]

rip jade

All hail bamboocut

[tawny quest]

Nameless is strong af now

[agile shadow]

u didn't swap right

[tawny quest]

Bro I’m working on inners

My rng hasn’t improved since you left

[agile shadow]

What inners

[tawny quest]

Kale told me all about best bamboo dust build though

[agile shadow]

u still working on nameless inners