📖lore-chat

[serene skiff]

daily

[clever trout]

The zheng family died like 12 yrs ago, why are they white haired now?

The people in mc's dream before boss fight with zheng e

I thought a'ruan was dead and frozen, or zheng e is cold fungus poisoned. But the others are dead

[teal tide]

🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 why this new story so boring

[frail holly]

Can anyone explain the lasts scene with veiled lady?

[teal tide]

killing her was boring

how can a boss use continues skill.. while i have CD

[frail holly]

What is the Jade pendant and why does aureate pavilion want it?

[viral umbra]

who exactly is the white haired guy that tricked veiled lady?

i dont mind spoilers

[viral umbra]

or manipulated her

[honest rain]

Visual storytelling primarily (that's hallucination/visualization of Zheng E's inner turmoil, so devs can afford creative>>reasonable decisions)

The real surviving family members have black hair, if not elderly grey

[icy chasm]

Hello

[ancient harness]

I just would like to get this out of my chest. As a player with maybe 22k-23k Points in Scholar this game is almost trying to insult the role.

In a "Breathing" Jianghu, your high Scholar points should have triggered a progression like this:

Step 1: Local Candidate (Xiucai): You gain the right to debate local NPCs and influence village prices.
Step 2: Provincial Graduate (Juren): You gain prestige and the ability to post official "Bounties" that other players must follow.
Step 3: The Imperial Exam (Gongshi): A rare, server-wide event where top Scholars compete.
Step 4: Court Official: You are assigned to a city. You have actual legal power—you can pardon criminals, declare festivals, or call for the "Imperial Guard" to clear a bridge.

Instead, Where Winds Meet gave you a powerless title and a "combat" skip button its freaking frustrating.

I know that there is also Talismans but is that just really it? Have you seen the bounty boards lately being so empty of requests for scholars sometime?

[north trench]

Chat how do we know that aunt han brother that got organ take to qianye is a brother. Aren't the shimmer quest show twin girls?

[north trench]

@royal plover gonna ask aunt han admirer

[frail holly]

I think it was something about how they dressed him up as a girl

[north trench]

Yeah i just noticed in video show han brother and liang family make him dress like girl and dancing

[pulsar wadi]

Guys do we actually travel to the past in hexi? Like is what we experience real? Or is it really a dream?

[frail holly]

A dream

[twilit lagoon]

Huh I thiught it was the past

[lavish meadow]

It's all the painter's dreams. But since he's a special person, he's able to dream vividly of the past. The Veiled Lady is also a special person, a harmonizer. She resonated with his dreams , constructed a dreamscape for us, and threw us there to uncover Golden Peach's secret.

[pulsar wadi]

Thx! And whag was the golden peach supposed to do? And what was the story of fang bai?

[celest flume]

The golden peach was believed to bring prosperity to an empire, cure all diseases and resurrect the dead. But ofc it is bs. Nonetheless the entire jianghu seeks it.

Fang bai
Palm strike master (Lan Shou Chi)
||Since he was young, he always wanted to matter. He first learnt martial arts from a teacher, Palm Strike Sage (is not Palm Strike Master) and then he joined inkbound order, he would apply to become an administrator for Chang'an but is rejected every time. ||
||He had a girlfriend, Lan Ao, she was sick. When Fang Bai had the courage to propose, Lan Ao rejected immediately. She said that he couldn't understand her, though it made no sense to him, there is nothing Fang Bai could do. The girl, Lan Ao never told him about the puppet poison or who she was (daughter of Palm Strike Master, the person that split the cliff into half with a a palm strike, in the quest is currently a lowly inspector serving for Zhu Youli). ||
||Fang Bai was heartbroken, so he left and went to the country side to wait for a carriage to go to Chang'an. While waiting he saved a young painter, Huajing. The painter wanted to draw his portrait but Fang Bai rejected. The painter wrote down his address and threw the note into Fang Bai's carriage as it was leaving. ||
||The stories we pick up in the misty forest are written by Fang Bai to the painter. He wrote about little things that made him happy, and they became close friends.||

I'll continue, this is long asf

||One day the golden peach came to Qinchuan. Fang Bai didn't know that Zhu Wen had already killed the Tang emperor and sent soldiers to massacre his sect. Inkbound order sent their best disciples to carry the peach to Chang'an sine it was believed to save an entire empire. The soldiers killed almost every single disciples but none of them revealed the secret of the golden peach. Fang Bai knew none of this, so he invited his painter friend to see the "exciting event", however when he arrived he was in shock, that the person carrying the golden peach, Palm Strike Sage was dead.
If the golden peach was believed to be taken by force, then it won't have a trail to follow. Fang Bai wrote down that he killed his own master to seize the peach and that note you can see in the misty forest pinned on a tree.||
||His teacher told him to pass the peach to Palm Strike Master, but the legendary hero was now such a lowly person, how could Fang Bai find him in the entire jianghu So he went and told the entire jianghu a traitor named Fang Bai had murdered his master to steal the golden peach. He made an invitation to the hero assembly hoping everyone would show up. ||
||Before any of that, Fang Bai wrote to the painter to sever their friendship, as he didn't want the painter to get into the mess. ||

||Lan Ao b4 the assembly knew about Fang Bai's suicidal plan, so at the assembly, she disguised as him and tell the entire room who dares to kill her. Later on Fang Bai and Palm Strike Master realized what Lan Ao had done, so he gave the real peach to Palm Strike Master and they both went to the assembly with a fake one. ||
||The moment Zhu Youli reached out to grab the fake peach from Fang Bai, he gets stabbed to death, and Fang Bai also gets killed by other people in the assembly.||

Its a brief explanation for the character Fang Bai
Details are still missing but enough to understand

[honest rain]

It is my understanding that, after getting the golden peach (iykyk) and finding his hometown destroyed, Painter (Huajing) started seeing vivid visions of people from all across Hexi. He settled and worked on expressing it through painting, drawing and destroying and drawing again, until ultimately he created the mural ||we find at the end. His body was failing by that time, but his will was strong, and the visions(dreams) were still tormenting him. That's when Chuyu found him. She tried entering Painter's dream, but was unable to connect properly and reach deep into his soul to find "the secret".|| The lady later came up with a plan to get YM to enter Painter's dream.

The visions that Painter saw are somewhat similar to YM seeing flashbacks like Zheng manor – they're harmonizers (special kind of people in WWM world), so they can vibe with the world and pick up the past. It is safe to say that the general gist of events is correct, but some artistic details aren't [ex.: Liangzhou likely was normal on-the-ground city, no floating cups; Qinchuan had normal ground, not paper-taxtured; etc]

[humble ledge]

Finally, thank you for the explanation.

The story ended with the death of all the handsome men.

[north trench]

Ylan tran you have Chinese name now!

[iron canyon]

On the bright surge, it's about the painter's dreams and the voices of different characters/figures and their longing for home & peace, while the dark surge is about ||the passing down of the Golden peach & a key introduction to YM's identity||. Most importantly it started because the veiled lady wanted to know about her identity & her past as well (but failed), so she took a gamble on YM, but this experience also let YM face & see through themselves

[sharp lily]

they slapped each other to death 😄

[iron canyon]

Regarding the golden peach, you can read this message and the quoted one as well: #1478069586526998578 message (I'll try to use simple words) Note that, the confirmed harmonizers are both BaiChuYu & YM, and they are both the only ones we know to have the talent maxed out as well (they're both special). The basic skills such as wind sense & communicating with animals can be trained through time an effort, but high level skills like YM being compatible & able to resonate to all "sounds" of the world (from how they're able to enter the painter's dream, and relieve the past like in kaifeng where they went back to the day the Zheng family got massacred) isn't something everyone can achieve. Even though the jade/golden peach is able to amplify one's sensitivity towards the "sounds" of the world, to be able to listen & resonate to everything requires a high level of talent (which BaiChuYu & YM possess).

[tiny frost]

FINALLY, new cutscene

[twilit lagoon]

I see

[tiny frost]

PEAK Cinema

[somber spear]

daily checkin

[raw vector]

Hii

[celest flume]

took you that long

[celest flume]

Cuz its my nickname
not the channel to discuss it, #💬off-topic if you want

[distant sage]

cool

[maiden wing]

The real tragedy, aye

[rain dew]

Hi

[zinc musk]

How to abandon a quest? Anyone?

[sharp lily]

#🌱beginner-questions

[cursive sparrow]

anyone still in the blueshoe quest?

[willow junco]

[spice halo]

[sage whale]

no idea yet if em gonna fix the bug asap

[finite mango]

Which bug?

[plain smelt]

lol

no bug

[tulip flame]

how they making moonlight buns? is this immortal cultivation

[tardy prism]

Dunno about blueshoe 😅.. but the anecdotes and antique sunken lake done 100%..maybe lucky not get bug..

[pastel radish]

chang an no longer chang an (always peace) is a crazy line. omg i got shivers

[mystic idol]

chinese language is really good like that

or very interesting

what you say to each wayfarer (and their response) is also cool

天涯咫尺 咫尺天涯

same set of characters just flipped the words and it means something different

[open token]

Interestinv

[worthy junco]

ciao

[frank wharf]

i wanna ask still quite confusing to me, so golden peach is the jade we were holding or us as baby? and why we are found at the middle of battlefield

[pastel radish]

exactly, that's why i love all these shows and games. always makes me very proud to be chinese when it's like this XD

[faint nexus]

Hello

Guys

Whatsup

I need

Help

[autumn summit]

still no 60fps for poco x7pro?

[royal jewel]

Harmonizers
Considering uncle Jiang knew we were a harmonizer
Was he possibly a harmonizer too

[fleet plinth]

hhelpwwhay

[mystic idol]

|| he doesnt know ||

|| no one really knows what harmonizers are aside from harmonizers themselves. ||

[royal jewel]

I think he does cuz in the events tab, KNOW YOUR JIANGHU
A text there mentions uncle Jiang left a personally written tome on harmonizers for the YM
Honestly it was both through wwm girl and checking it afterwards that I was like damn it's quite literally there

[mystic idol]

hmm, idk I’m not convinced he knows exactly what a harmonizer is

It dosnt say its personally written by him either

i just checked the in game text

what it means is actually

he left behind a book that contained a hidden message

hidden message left by whom idk

written by whom idk

oh wait actually

there was also the cutscene from the beginning

after void king

so nvm maybe he does know

[mild holly]

شباب في عرب؟؟

[mild holly]

i say anybody arab

[honest rain]

Better go in #💬martial-pavilion or #💬off-topic for all sorts of casual chat or #looking-for-group to search for players

[humble ledge]

Are they dead or not?

[jade aurora]

Guys when will they release the new mountain region....i think i unlocked an encounter quest of that region accidentally

[shell tangle]

umm...anyone come across this? was that morse code/space noises or am I overthinking?

[untold quest]

||
Isnt he the main villain? Or is he some random
||

[open junco]

yo

[jovial lodge]

Wang qing dead after zhongdu bridge, Li zuo main villain of the story

[jovial lodge]

Villain, he created the aureate pavilion

[pulsar wadi]

Thanj you so much ❤️

[pulsar wadi]

Thank you! ❤️ I really apprefiate it

[pulsar wadi]

Thank you! This is an amazing explanation! ❤️

[honest rain]

Li Zuo (on the right) is alive, just has white hair now [you can see him in Void King campaign and Bai Chuyu's story, journal entry "Last emperor"]
Wang Qing (on the left) died just before Jiang Yan picked up the kid that'd grow into the protagonist, the story is mentioned in many places in Qinghe. Journal entry exists, but doesn't have his face or model, just name

[grave spruce]

Hi

[hearty lance]

where the dev? i need some help and discord don't have the help or reporting in game, when death screen, ( there a player is trapping people in their killing zone of the map, by using the co op, feature and the game map death instantly when out of map, with the trick of selling Trade of high Percente to trap people in to infinte death

it's like a disign that they turned into trap of unleavable... by the game itself

it's a trap of seeing the people see the people by the feeling the power to do whatever they wanted on people without consent and not whatever they wanted on thing to do.

it's easy to escape in real life, but hard in game, due to there's no chance to even to even to think. so yeah, it's intend to make everyone blinded to hurt that one person in the trap as entertainments of frustration....

i'm not mad, i'm just explained right now, so you the dev can check the problem and the game out, so people can abuse it anymore, simple, if in co op and if a player is instantly 3 to 5 time in game co op, instantly disconnected that person from the co op, remember ( of Instantly )

and yes, you should a a hub of chatting too, at least there is a place. it's simply make people feel powerless in any location, to have something to do something., good luck

[humble ledge]

So our real father is dead?wang qing?

[honest rain]

"Discord doesn't have..." you didnt even try looking, here: #🦢ask-devs-anything #reporting

[honest rain]

Wang Qing is not MC's father. As far as we know he only had adopted children, including Jiang Yan (MC's adoptive father) and He Ran (appears in encounters). You can say Wang Qing is MC's adoptive grandfather

As for MC's blood parents, it's cn.ver spoilers ||no namedrops, but based on surroundings of Jiang Yan picking up MC, the parents are most likely dead||

[humble ledge]

So, it was Uncle who was being pursued, not us, from the beginning.

Now this makes us a secondary character.

[honest rain]

It was! Uncle Jiang = Jiang Yan, he was the one playable and carrying the child that'd grow up to he yhe MC. MC addresses his adoptive parents as uncle and aunt, but they're by all parameters the adoptive parents (and MC calls them parents on a few occasions in dialogs with NPCs)

[honest rain]

Jiang Yan is main character of the prologue, while MC/we are the main character of the story (can be argued otherwise for Hexi, but for simplicity reasons, MC is the main character)

[humble ledge]

[honest rain]

Reading comprehension check❣️

[humble ledge]

Yes, yes, I understand, all handsome people die in the end.

Good thing the gray-haired villain is still alive

[honest rain]

so far

[humble ledge]

Keep him alive for my sake

[honest rain]

Runner-up in the child neglect olympics

[humble ledge]

She wasn't his real daughter at all, and the uncle didn't care about us; he was just traveling.

This makes two of them

[honest rain]

Woah

I don't even know where to start here

[honest rain]

So
Both MC and Chuyu are adopted around same time. She's a few years older, but it barely makes a dent.

For 13 years, as we know from MC's positive memories of childhood, MC is raised by adoptive parents +the community is actively present (Jiang Yan and Han Xianxun are the parents, and then there's Tian Bushou, Chen Zixi, Ruby's parents, and everyone else around). At the same time, as we saw from Chuyu's memories, she was primarily left to her own devices. While MC formed strong sense of self and socialized, Chuyu formed deep sense loneliness and insecurities.

Three years before Main Story started (so, when MC was ~13yo), Jiang Yan left for plot reasons, leaving the kid with trusted community. Li Zuo didn't go anywhere, he just proceeded to do nothing

I guess if 13 years of raising an adopted child is "just traveling" in your books, that's on you

Funnily enough, that's exactly the mistake Chuyu made

Still better than Feng Yi's children, so I guess Li Zuo is doing at least something right

[hidden kelp]

Feng Yi catching strays

[honest rain]

Always time for Feng Yi hate on my clock

[waxen nymph]

Hey everyone, I’m Peace. I’m in my early 20s, originally from Pretoria and now living in the UK.

I’m someone who’s been through a lot personally, so I understand what it feels like to deal with anxiety, low moments, and trying to figure life out while still pushing forward. These days I’m focused on school, handling my responsibilities, and just working on becoming a better version of myself.

Outside of that, I enjoy things like music, movies, anime, gaming, learning new things, and I’d love to travel more when I can. I’m pretty easygoing, I like real conversations, and I appreciate people who are genuine.

I’d like to connect with people who are mature, respectful, and just good vibes overall. Whether it’s to talk, share interests, or support each other, I’m open to it.

[deft quail]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-fluff-fluff-what-wtf-cat-gif-3209012778096281354

[grim sequoia]

Amusing how the oldest and the youngest sect are everywhere in the jianghu

[harsh frigate]

HI

[icy chasm]

Hello

[modest nova]

any video that explains the current global version main story lore in one go?

[celest flume]

Check out WWM Girl's yt channel

[celest flume]

Wrong channel, delete this
Better if sent in #💬off-topic

[waxen nymph]

Ohh I see
I would have don that if there was introduction par

Part

[celest flume]

This legit says lore chat could you have some common sense 💔

[celest flume]

Feng Yi hate session begins

[torn solar]

is it anakin and luke

[royal plover]

Damn no one reply me, i ask about which quest doing first in chronological order?

[foggy tiger]

Don't think it matters. One of the side can be completed before main quest. The other side quest only can finish after main quest. So whichever side quest u start with u'll end up in the correct order anyway

[royal plover]

I just want to do it in chronological order, like in liangzhou quest happen not in chronological way so its difficult to me to dive into story

[glossy cloak]

✊

[uneven sun]

@royal plover

[royal plover]

My friend lost chapter?

There quest with friend on the title, but not my friend

[uneven sun]

It's the first one you run into after entering and going through a little bit of Qinchuan

[iron canyon]

considering the notes in the know your jianghu, I'm sure he knows a thing or two, arguably you could say Jiang might be one, because harmonizers have different levels, basic talents like wind sense, beast communication technically is also what harmonizers can do, but to be able to achieve levels like YM & BaiChuYu (being able to establish connections in living and dead, entering & resonating with someone else's dream, creating dreams like what baichuyu did) requires high level of the talent, which is why it makes the 2 special. The jade is there to amplify their talents, so think of YM & BaiChuYu getting the max level talent & being supported by the jade at the same time.

[iron canyon]

you would start the my friend chapter first, so just follow the flow, my friend is a chapter that chains all the quests, and you wouldn't be able to proceed with my friend without completing the campaigns & jianghu legacies required

[royal plover]

There no quest name my friend

[royal jewel]

Exactly, and honestly I wonder if in the future we would become good friends with bai chuyu

[iron canyon]

the full name of the quest is friends, to the end, which is the msq

[iron canyon]

considering ||we're getting jiangnan map in cn soon, and a lot of things were pointing to jiangnan + aureate pavilion's base is also around there, it wouldn't be surprising if we meet baichuyu there||

[royal jewel]

Honestly the two of them need a break,just getting dragged into useless conflicts and wars

[iron canyon]

The fortunate thing is that YM grew up with love, good morals & connections from Aunt Han & Uncle Jiang that protected them throughout their journey, while LiZuo didn't let BaiChuYu get involved in any of the aureate pavilion's operations still, I ain't forgiving what the crazy villian had done so far, but after all they're still kids, and YM honestly haven't got over with the trauma despite the strong facade they put on

[celest flume]

Nooo u reminded me of blissful retreat again

[iron canyon]

atp this is shared trauma

[faint nexus]

Helloo

[celest flume]

ive been dreaming of the little peaceful events in kaifeng and u mentioned it fahhh

[tropic acorn]

hi

[royal jewel]

Luckily the YM has battled their inner demons
But right now they gotta let the tears flow or it'll weigh heavily on their heart

[queen zealot]

whats up people

[raw vector]

Hii

[ebon roost]

wats up folks

[tardy swift]

Doom scrolling this channel, waiting for more content to pile up

[shut barn]

Can I ask how many mythic total count in all season? Since day1? Like count in badge title?

[grim sequoia]

There's also ||Masked Troupe and Silver Needle along with some other sects there in Jiangnan, certain important NPCs are gonna be very involved there so they're gonna break them up to campaigns and lost chapter quests||

[blissful knoll]

when the math sect release 🙁

[marble inlet]

@jovial lodge

My character & Zheng E 😄

[tame estuary]

hi

[jovial lodge]

That’s so fricking cute but no need for ai 😭

[jovial lodge]

Mc shared scene with aynur made me realise just how angry she is

[iron canyon]

YM is really handling their emotions well, they wouldn't let their hatred blind them🥹 with a heartbreaking fact that neither YM nor aynur successfully took revenge ||until this point of time, the devs love to mirror the character's story||

[naive marten]

Hello

[honest rain]

Not really. Anakin and Luke have each their respective stories, while WWM decided to make prologue the taster for combat gameplay, and they had to either pull time travel or use experienced character for this one. Using Jiang Yan as an entry point makes sense, because he is experienced enough to let players start with action instead of "press D for ➡️" and he is connected to MC, so the introduction section tie into the greater story. Unc's 10 min of fame barely make a dent in the story, and the amount of time players spend with MC

[wild path]

👀

[candid echo]

Hello

[full bane]

This is absolutely cutie

[royal plover]

What this poeple wish quest mean?

Still not finish yet, only finish first tomb when we go to inn at jade gate pass

There 2 identity we can use, whos they, why when i chose as masked troupe the guard try to kill me

[iron canyon]

He's a crucial character in the dark surge, without him the golden peach wouldn't have been able to pass down. Lan He is his original name and he was a masked troupe disciple, who decided to go out from Chang'an to retrieve the golden peach by faking his death by fighting & "died" under thugs. Xu Jian is the nickname he used after he faked his death and as botanist to hide his true intention. He knew about the golden peach since the person who passed it down to guoxin was the second leader of Masked troupe.

[royal plover]

Is this masked troupe leader who give peach to gou xin?

[iron canyon]

Yeah, the second leader Lady Gongsun

[royal plover]

Whos fang bai

[iron canyon]

an inkbound order discple, you'll learn about him when you proceed with the Sunken City Lake Campaign

[royal plover]

What with the third tomb, temple massacre?

[iron canyon]

the bounty hunter could be one of the golden peach holders after SuoJing (it's unclear how many people held it in between, or who exactly the bounty hunter is, the bounty hunter may be the same person as the only survivor of the incident) until the Palm Strike Sage

[royal plover]

4th tomb is about wang qing right, but this is happen years after qinchuan, bc he still not be born at this time?

And the guy play with him is wang huo, his brother? But why he suddenly turn into li zuo?

[indigo meteor]

Who is the veiled lady and the old painter?
how he get's so old while i met him just couple of min ago and he was almost in my age...??

am i was dreaming for all the time?

[iron canyon]

During qinchuan, the two were already born. The people's wish is about the stories of the few key characters that once held the golden peach, which is why you can't be strict about the timeline, it's very messy. Wang Hou is a title used for nobles/emperors, which is referring to LiZuo in this case.

[royal plover]

Wang qing and li zou are friend?

[iron canyon]

Yep, Hexi is a dream, specifically the painter's dream. For the veiled lady, if you completed everything, she already told her name, and I recommend reading the dark surge about The Harmonizers, which pretty much explains BaiChuYu & YM's identity

[royal plover]

So wang qing knew li zuo still alive?

[celest flume]

||He died b4 li zuo bro 😭 ||

[iron canyon]

yeah, wang qing, lizuo & qingyi knew each other, and were once close friends but grew apart due to different ideals

[indigo meteor]

i just can't understand a lot of thing plus a lot of confused you know..the translation is the most pathetic things ever happened in my life..!!!

[iron canyon]

Have you unlocked all of the dark surges? To explain this, I'll have to explain everything right from the start, because it's about the jade we're holding, I don't want to spoil without consent

[royal plover]

Remind me What years wang died?

[royal plover]

This not our fault, the translation really bad, and most of quest happen in the middle of something, so we dont know what the char and why doing it without collecting other thing from other side quest.

Beside in hexi quest its force player to learn about Chinese history which is difficult for non cn player, bc this game not plan to go global at the fist place.

[indigo meteor]

bro you can spoil...,,,
i have finished everything...plus all the 100% exploration too (except for 2)

[jovial lodge]

I still carry Aynur stone it’s one of my favourite accessories

Hexi had the best side characters

[iron canyon]

#1478069586526998578 message If you read this & the quoted message (I did this before hexi, so the terms & words I use might be different from what you see in game), it explains what exactly the jade (which is the golden peach) is along with the veiled lady's & ym's special identity.

Origins of the jade:
Back then, it was said that the Tang empire was offered a rare fruit that was described to be as big as a goose egg in gold. The fruit was recorded as golden peach (original name of the jade, given by Lady Gongsun). Yet rumours of the jade spread among the jianghu, some say it can revive the dead, some say it can extend ones age by 1000 years (Tang at that time is still at its peak). Lady Gongsun (The second leader of Masked Troupe) took a real "gold peach" which is the jade, and sealed it in a wooden box, waiting for someone worthy to pass it down for. It was then she met young Guoxin and passed it down to him.

Summary of the people who once held the jade:
Lady Gongsun -> Guoxin -> Lan He/Xu Jian (crucial character in dark surge who risked everything just to retrieve the jade, the jade got snatched by foreign forces, but he and YiChao managed to reclaim it together) -> Yichao -> Huaishen -> Suo Jing -> multiple wanderers -> Palm Strike Sage -> Fang Bai -> Palm Strike Master (Lan ShouChi, Lan Ao's father) -> Painter -> Wang Qing. After the ZhongDu bridge war, the jade broke into 2 pieces, and is held by BaiChuYu & YM, while YM had their's snatched by Uncle Jiang at the start of the game.

[iron canyon]

In 946, the zhongdu bridge war

[jovial lodge]

Also I heard that all of them are connected in some way like Aynur’s brother was the assassin sent to kill the young general, I think Lian Daozi grandfather was the guy that gave burlap sack water?? I’m not too sure also An Liuli’s teacher is another character

[iron canyon]

The emotions were so heavy that I am still coping from Hexi

[iron canyon]

yep, lian daozi's great grandfather was XiaoLian in the burlap sack quest & also AnLiuLi's teacher

[jovial lodge]

Could you remind me who XiaoLian is?

Ik that name but idk him at the same time 😭

[jovial lodge]

I love how Qinchuan tied everything together like it wasn’t just random stories

[royal plover]

So wang qing is name, but when come to li zuo wang huo is title?

[jovial lodge]

And I like how slow the quests are because it really immersive, although I hated burlap sack quest at the start

[iron canyon]

the young man that burlap sack saved, if you read the ledger in the inn of LiangZhou Melody's quest, you'll get to know that XiaoLian's name is Lian ErLang

[iron canyon]

Wang Hou is like sir/madam in the past, except it's used for nobles/emperors, and yes Wang Qing is a name

[jovial lodge]

I’ll have to read again, also I keep seeing the Erlang surname all over

[royal plover]

And i though li zuo like already 100 years when wang qing death, bc he doing immortal surgery thing

[iron canyon]

LiZuo was born in 892, while Wang Qing is 1-2 years younger than him, in 962, LiZuo is 70, so he's not that old

[jovial lodge]

So how is the painter and Wang Qing connected how do they meet

[iron canyon]

but it's true that LiZuo most probably achieved some sort of state, what exactly it is or how, we don't have an answer yet

[iron canyon]

The only thing we know is that the painter gave the jade to another "Fang Bai" (we know the painter is severely near sighted, so he most probably recognized the person through their vibe/personality), it's not clear whether if someone else held the jade before Wang Qing or not, so the possibility is there, but Wang Qing's overall vibe does resemble Fang Bai.

[edgy kite]

[jovial lodge]

Thank you so much

[icy nest]

how to fix the innerway light and shadow is not working and stopped giving me buff

[indigo meteor]

can i chat with you or massage you privately...!!
as i have a thousands question in my mind...
from the very beginning of this game like who we are?
what's about our uncle and what's the relation between him and aunt han? and a lot of you know...!! why the witch attacked blissful retreat blah blah

if your are comfortable only then...

or we can simply chat here

[harsh frigate]

I have a theory about that

[indigo meteor]

yeah pls

[harsh frigate]

I think the witch is actually that shady girl we saw on the chess board when the shimmer talked about aunt hans past

[foggy tiger]

No actual relation between Jiang and Han. They just wanderers who happened to meet

[harsh frigate]

She is also the one that’s behind aunt hans brother death

[indigo meteor]

there was 2 girl yeah i can remember one dies and one is aunt han as i understand actually

[harsh frigate]

They met by chance

[indigo meteor]

bro??!!!

[foggy tiger]

One guy one girl. Girl is Han, guy is hans brother

[harsh frigate]

And I think tian ying was the middle man for the meeting

[harsh frigate]

The bad girl made the guy cross dress

[indigo meteor]

oww man!!! this chinese boys 🤣

[harsh frigate]

Because she loved pretty things

[harsh frigate]

No I think there’s more to it than that

[indigo meteor]

bro if you don't mind can you write all this in one single msg?
it's easier for me to read then ...

[harsh frigate]

Bro if I need to explain everything from first to the current day of wwm It will become a quite interesting story but a huge one at that

[foggy tiger]

Look up some lore channels for wwm like wwm girl on YouTube

[harsh frigate]

There’s so many people in this story that It makes one piece look pale

[indigo meteor]

yeah i know...😶

[foggy tiger]

There's very good coverage of lore and obscure information that people easily missb

[harsh frigate]

She’s really good at explaining tbh
And she takes out every single reference behind her logics which is quite remarkable

[indigo meteor]

which video is good and lore accurate?
i watched 3 or 4 videos and there was very different different story in some cases!!!

[foggy tiger]

I duno. I mostly watch Chinese content tbh but wwm girl has very good reviews in the community

[harsh frigate]

But I came here(lore-chat) to ask a question: is uncle Tian( the medicine guy ) and tian ying the same dude?

[foggy tiger]

No

[harsh frigate]

Bt the med guy is super sus

[foggy tiger]

Uncle tian is a cross dressing woman. Tian ying is ancient China version of James Bond. Very different

[harsh frigate]

Kinda like the unfated

[foggy tiger]

Qinghe storyline is basically tian ying die another day movie

[harsh frigate]

What if uncle tian is the result of James Bond cross dressing?

[indigo meteor]

ohh i see...chinese i don't understand so only option is looking for the wwm girl

[foggy tiger]

Yea. There're a few others I think but I only remember wwmgirl

[harsh frigate]

Dude is literally called - thousand faced

[balmy jewel]

hy any one help me

[terse barn]

[harsh frigate]

How

[hollow mango]

uncle tian story is quite a shock to me imo

[vague shoal]

aureate's plan was to retrieve the list from aunt han, they probably didnt plan to raze the place down but it was simply the witch's whims to do so cause she wanted to the things dear to aunt han. qianye was weirdly obsessed with her

[frank tundra]

Imposter or did we really just beat this man into poverty?

[vague shoal]

imposter, real one is Zheng E

[frank tundra]

I feel like I've heard that name before too but i can't remember

Oop exploding chest got me

[jovial lodge]

Why is unfated tian still in that moonlit place

[sacred current]

i still didnt fully understand death of governor story

[hexed beacon]

We have agenda in Where Winds meet now?

[mystic idol]

zhang huaishen is nephew of zhang yichao, basically many wanted him dead, ranging from the assassin, the eunuch (court), and even his sister/relatives

it's unknown who exactly killed him, but he was the also the last thing that was kind of keeping liangzhou together. After he died, it was soon lost to invaders

[pulsar wadi]

Basically the zhang family kind of reconquered the region and brought it back into imperial fold, got laws in place and so on. All this after the regions were kind of written off as lost/gone and they had virtually no support. This was kind of a miracle and they got on the emperor's good side. However they rose into significance and different forces schemed against them. This more or less backfired as they lost liangzhou. Huaishen was just the one that kind of got the "bill" as people didn't really target him personally but moreso the family in itself. If I'm wrong someone correct me.

[honest rain]

No, just the English translation of surnames match

[honest rain]

One theory is that when the Han twins were sold, they were described as sisters instead of sister&brother. After they went off the market, rumors continued to spread about two sisters, and the family didn't correct them bc who cares about two servants' reputation, it's not like anyone's letting them out. Shimmer, as an outsider, didn't get the memo, so he told YM the story based on this outdated information, while aunt Han obv knows she had a brother

[honest rain]

You can also find Rong Yuan on nearby street, to the left (both are NMW fakes)

[royal surge]

hi can i ask somethig

[charred echo]

Title: [Urgent Petition] Request to Revert PvP Matchmaking Rollback and Separate Leaderboards
Dear Where Winds Meet Development Team,
The sudden decision to rollback the unified PvP (Arena) matchmaking between the KR/JP and TW/HK/MO servers has completely destroyed the PvP ecosystem for the KR/JP region. Considering the player base connecting via Steam in our region, this separation makes the game virtually unplayable.

1. A Broken Matchmaking Experience
   Queue times now regularly exceed 20 minutes. Even when a match is found, we are forced to fight the exact same opponent repeatedly for over an hour. In a game where combat depth relies on reading diverse weapon setups, martial arts, and parry timings, fighting a single person continuously ruins the core PvP experience.
2. The Logical Contradiction of Leaderboards
   It is completely illogical to separate the matchmaking pools due to ping complaints, yet keep the PvP Leaderboard unified. It makes absolutely no sense to compete for ranking points against players we are physically restricted from fighting.
3. Unfair Operational Precedent
   Caving to the "boycott" threats and ping complaints of one specific region, while ignoring the KR/JP players who accepted the ping difference for the sake of healthy queue times, is a blatant disregard for our community.
   Our Demands:
   • Revert to the unified Asia matchmaking pool immediately so we can actually play the game.
   • If the matchmaking must remain separated, you MUST create an independent PvP Leaderboard exclusively for the KR/JP servers.
   We expect a prompt and logical resolution.

[cerulean bluff]

Not the channel for this

[iron canyon]

oh sure! Just drop me a fr / dm, it's quite a lot to take in, but I'm definitely willing to help

[iron canyon]

it's not uncommon for ancient people who take in kids/people and let them cross-dress (mostly man cross dressing as a woman) to fulfill their "weird preferences" plus at the start of the quest Aunt Han's already mentioned she has a younger brother (as her father sold the twins because he lost in a bet, he may have lied that he had two girls instead of a girl & a boy)

[iron canyon]

Laufie do make videos too, but it's more onto the historical context, while wwmgirl's videos are highly recommended as he/she do explain the story very clearly. I do have another personal recommendation, her videos are in cn but she does have english subtitles if you're interested.

[stuck coral]

Please share the Chinese videos too. I’m interested

[iron canyon]

Search up 软软喵大人, she recently just uploaded a video about the people's wish quest

[edgy kite]

[unkempt pumice]

So

Who wants to play w me?

[shrewd ridge]

ummmm.... :<

im shy

[unkempt pumice]

Who wants to play with me?
NA server
Level 93

[celest flume]

use #💬martial-pavilion
this chat is for lore related content.

[unkempt pumice]

Where is the mobile chat .??

[celest flume]

gone

[unkempt pumice]

Just like this game

[shrewd ridge]

thats so sad :<

[foggy tiger]

Actually zhang yichao and in general the zhang family never got imperial favour. After zhang yichao conquered entirety of hexi the imperial family was wary of potential rebellion as such never granted him title of governor. After zhang yichao elder brother died (he was the imperial hostage at the time) zhang yichao himself was summoned to Chang an to take his place a mere few years after his hexi conquest, essentially telling him to abandon his work

That's why in the story there was the great snake which was his selfish desire for power, and his childhood image which was his selfless desire to bring the hexi people back to tang empire fold and alleviating their suffering in hexi by seeking imperial support

He killed both sides of his desire eventually and returned to Chang an to be a hostage

Leaving little zhang his nephew to oversee the lands in his absence.

[celest flume]

*zhang yichao

[foggy tiger]

Yea correct my bad. Nevertheless, zhang huaishen died, and (not in story) hexi region was lost in a few years. In history he zhang yichao died shortly after in Chang an. Probably angered to death

Remember early part of the story where zhang yichao took that long walk in the sands conversing with the monk that told him to wait for his opportunity

The hexi Han people were suffering immensely and zhang Yi chao wanted to make a difference and waited and waited. From his early twenties he waited till 49 years old until tubo kingdom had their own discord and he conquered hexi

Yet after he left the territory, the entire region was lost. Wiping out his decades of dedication and waiting

If I were him I'd legit have a stroke

[iron canyon]

Yeah, he was really depressed to the point he forget almost everything, his soul was gone, both the kid, and the snake the moment he eliminated them, which is what makes his personality

[foggy tiger]

Yea. It's really heart wrenching. His conversation with the monk he was young, vigorous, skilled in martial arts and military leadership. Yet he had to bide his time for decades. All the while watching hexi people suffer under tubo

Where Han people were enslaved from young to old until they were too elderly for labour, then they were blinded, and thrown into mass graves. He had to watch all that and bear it

The monk asked him. If he wanted to merely raise a ruckus, or make a difference. If he wanted to make a difference he had to wait

[iron canyon]

He dedicated his whole life in freeing the people from the tyranny rule, waiting half a decade just for the chance, but as long as the suspicions from the court remain, he could never truly return peace to the people, it's an endless cycle. The rebellions screw up things too much, the court also couldn't afford to take another failed gamble

[foggy tiger]

Zhang Yi chao: "if opportunity does not come? What then?"
Monk: "u wait"
Zhang: "if it still does not come after waiting?"
Monk"u know the answer"

I can't imagine waiting till 49 years old myself tbh

[iron canyon]

LiangZhou as the wine cups, YiChao as the bow who truly made a difference and freed the people, but the imperial family only saw a huge snake that is going to turn against them anytime

[foggy tiger]

Yea. Actually I was not familiar with the Chinese idiom snake in wine cup. But I can imagine the meaning

The Chinese language used is so poetic and archaic an overseas Chinese like me can barely keep up u have to read up in forums or watch some bilibili videos breakdown to keep up

Tons of stuff fly over my head all the time and after watch video I'm like "ohhhhhh"

[iron canyon]

Same here, I'm really really impressed with their literary levels, even those short descriptions hidden in items like accessories or even avatars have deep underlying meanings that when the gears clicked you would go "'woah, it's from here, things were like this"

[foggy tiger]

Ya the depth of things are crazy. The story writing depth is immense. But then it's all real history so I suppose at least the writers don't have to do it from scratch. But it's so incredibly layered just that we don't really get the story payoff until practically the last few story cutscenes after u finish absolutely everything

Which probably less than 1% of the player base will get there

So I can imagine why there's so much negative feedback about the game until possibly the last chapter of every story arc

But the payoff is so huge... Like how it transition to the start menu image. My god..

I was completely lost for words

[iron canyon]

The process of threading everything and even if you reverse a quest multiple times you would always find something new that you missed off, and the way they thread in fictional content with historical content without one overpowering another is also mindblowing, I couldn't express how much I love immersing in the depths

[foggy tiger]

Yea but one fail point I think is the fish fight. I think it's supposed to tie everything together but it's so poorly done tbh

I mean not tie em together but to provide a summary of hexi

But yea I barely noticed

[iron canyon]

not to mention the difficulty in translations between the languages with the culture differences, it's going to be difficult to understanding everything at once

[foggy tiger]

Yea. Quite a few part in the story I noticed the subtitles remained in Chinese instead of being translated. I would be so frustrated if I couldn't read that

[iron canyon]

I did some research on the fish, it's talking about Tang dynasty itself rather than the summary of hexi, and most of the relation were hidden in the achievements itself. A carp is used to represent Tang because in cn 鲤(Li) & the imperial surname 李(Li) share the same pronounciation, so the carp soon has a honorific which is "Lord Crimson Carp 赤鲤公". The laws also forbid the people to capture / consume carps, and should be let free if they encounter carps. The fish also has a detail where there is a peony at the tail, as peonies are Tang's national flower.

We entered the dream as a fish, and watched the "fishes" fight. First stage is when Tang was at it's peak and blossoming, while in the second stage, the Azure Scale Envoy apperead which represented AnLuShan, marking the beginning of Tang's decline. In the third stage, the weather changed, a storm is coming. The azure carp would backstab us when we were exhausted, while the Lord Crimson Carp couldn't deal any damage to the azure carp even when using their ultimate skill. At the last stage, despite Tang's effort in recovering from the blow of the rebellion, the decline was still continuing, eventually the fish tank broke. The magnificent spirit of the Tang and the bustling glory of Chang'an are ultimately lost to the mists of time and history.

My guess to the small fish (which is us), is that we could be representing foreign forces & the commoners at the same time. In the first stage, the Lord Crimson Carp remains unfazed no matter how we attacked it, but in the last stage, the tank broke under the slightest force/attacks. When Tang was at it's peak, even though they were constantly at war with the foreign forces, and hidden public dissastisfaction exists, no one could shake the dominant position of Tang, but things took a turn after the AnShi rebellion.

There's even more to venture if we look into the achievement titles in cn, as they're all taken from famous poems that perfectly pictured the states & changes (tho the quest actually gives beta fish fight vibe imo XD)

[foggy tiger]

Yea when I saw the achievements pop up one after another as I was fighting I had time to briefly read em I thought they just did a rush job with the summary. Can probably be done better as just a compendium text and put up a more coherent fight

I didn't think of carp tbh. I thought it was fighting fish but then what kind of fighting fish had a laser

I mean the name says carp but carp don't usually look like this

[iron canyon]

It's a fictional representation so I think the devs went creative with the design (by combining the 2 things that represent Tang, stated in cn news). The head and body definitely resembles a carp, with a flowy tail like a fighting fish that possess the splendor of that golden age when it unfurls its tail to dance, along with a peony hidden within the tails as the national flower. Honestly another thing I noticed is that global's news don't have annoucements like these whenever they introduce a new quest, boss etc, while cn they would give the players teasers and sometimes some basic info about the new updates.

[vivid rose]

What inner way should I use for Vernal umbrella and Snowparting blade?

[outer schooner]

Huhhh

[nova latch]

P

[slender jetty]

Intresting 🤔👍

[celest flume]

#🧐pve-build-discussion

[clever trout]

If wang qing is possibly our papi

Doesnt that make uncle jiang brother figure instead of father figure 😂

[celest flume]

then li zuo is the mami

i see a cultured person (please censor the image next time it may be spoilers for other ppl)

[clever trout]

Oh sssssorry

Is chu qingquan aunt han's bf?

[celest flume]

yes

[clever trout]

He's dead

😭🫂

[celest flume]

i wanna gaslight myself tho

[clever trout]

Fr

[celest flume]

all i wanna think about rn is qianye is obsessed with aunt han in a weird way

[plain star]

Chu Qingquan is the only character assumed to be dead that I actually want to be survive.

[clever trout]

Fr I used to hope he was alive in my skipper era

||Then I redid story and yi dao said he ded ded|| 🫂

[celest flume]

fahh yi dao 😭

[clever trout]

Ohhhhh

There was some sorta smell on the fang bai dude, idk if its sweat or weed

But mc said yi dao would recognize the smell, and mc smelled it before somewhere in qinghe

What was the smell of?

[celest flume]

i wanna explain but my dementia is activated

[clever trout]

I'd like to think it was the smell of golden peach or mc's jade pendant unc jiang robbed

Still got no clue on how one peach became two pendants

[The painter said the golden peach couldn't be used cuz Chang'an was already destroyed. So he gave it to a different Fang Bai]

[iron canyon]

The scent is actually the scent of burning "buddha flowers", which is one of the "ingredients" needed to create dream puppets (if you recall the dungeon YiDao brought us into, where we encounter quite a few aureate pavilion memebers trying to create dream puppets). Lan Ao was infected by one of the dream puppet poison's varation (from the notes you picked up), so that Fang Bai isn't actually Fang Bai but rather Lan Ao in disguise you're seeing.

[iron canyon]

Nope, the devs have already confirmed that we're an orphan from the battlefield XD

[clever trout]

Oof I got goosebumps suddenly remembering that shi

[clever trout]

Who gave bro that pendant?

[iron canyon]

A mystery and one of the plot holes the devs has yet to fill in, gotta wait for more info regarding what happened in the zhongdu bridge war

[clever trout]

||Li zuo's name was wang smtg in the part he was playing game with wang qing|| r8?

[iron canyon]

Wang Hou is a title/respecful addression to nobles/emperors (that you see in the chess match), just like how ppl call Wang Qing "general"

[iron canyon]

It's honestly unclear who else held the jade before Wang Qing, but it's also possible to think that the other "Fang Bai" is exactly Wang Qing himself (as the painter recognize the person through their vibe & personality). Nevertheless the more important question is what exactly Wang Qing is planning & did in the zhongdu bridge war, bc unlike in real history, Wang Qing already knew about the betrayal & it's pretty much a death match yet he still went & how the jade ended up at two kids.

[solar aurora]

How can i get cloud martial skills

[grim sequoia]

There's absolutely no way the Zhenguan Jade would be entrusted to some random kid if said kid is just as important. Because with the nature of WWM being an online game, they will have to unravel more mysteries at some point.

[tulip flame]

at which point can we start cultivate immortality

[proper basin]

When our hair falls off

[pulsar wadi]

Wow that's kind of depressing ngl

[north pivot]

Well, it's really obvious

[dusty smelt]

Daily hi

[mystic idol]

have you seen the current theories about that

what wang qing did at zdb i mean

[indigo meteor]

(i don't know where to send this massage so sending in this lore chat,,so sorry)
can anyone give me all those reedeem codes?

[north trench]

Wwm girl have become goose girl!!!

[somber walrus]

pls tell me ruby came back alive

[rigid idol]

She has a grave

[glossy cloak]

✊

[somber walrus]

i can't recover

[terse barn]

[rigid idol]

This is jianghu.😢

[somber walrus]

still not played the game after that scene lmao

[grim kindle]

dont worry you get scammer rat rubies later

i think you get other rubies in the cn regions too

[jovial lodge]

Who is Lan Ao

[boreal hawk]

The sick lady

[icy stone]

Ai need code

[deft quail]

https://tenor.com/view/where-is-everybody-kai-halo-where-did-everyone-go-is-anyone-here-gif-8265194721605681668

[static sequoia]

Test

[ivory estuary]

What’s jianghu? I thought it was where Kaifeng was but is it one of those we haven’t seen yet?

[split dune]

Jianghu is a general term. It’s, like, the equivalent of saying “the streets”

The life of a wandering hero, the common folk, the martial arts world

[wintry falcon]

Can someone explain to me what happens at the beginning of the game like first I’m playing as some random guy with a baby and then I’m me like what the hell happened

[stuck violet]

Hello everyone

I'm a game developer
Thanks for accepting me

[coarse glade]

u play as the baby, which grew up

the guy you played as in the beginning is your foster father

[west lynx]

Anyone's here?

I need heal so I wrote on chat heal plz and I accepted and someone dude send the heal I accept and now I am die here for no reason can do anything help

When I click heal I keep rest up and die not cool who ever that healer was

Anyone can help me?

[uneven sun]

holy peak

the way the ending tied everything back

[oak berry]

Promotion available here ?

@everyone ?

[celest flume]

Get out of this channel this is for lore discussion

[oak berry]

So where can I get a promotion?

[uneven sun]

I wonder how post-hexi story will top the peak of Qinchuan epilogue

[celest flume]

All the stories r peak

[celest flume]

Lan Ao you see in sunken city lake quest is || the daughter of Palm Strike Master, the person who is currently a lowly inspector in the quest timeline working for Zhu Youli the general you fight as a mini boss at the beginning. She is sick with dream puppet poison and would later join the sect Hollow Vale, shes also Fang Bai's girlfriend.||

[iron canyon]

I do see quite a few ||especially about analysing the ritual on the zdb & LiZuo's actual plans||

[iron canyon]

the sick lady with xiaopan, also Fang Bai's lover and the daughter of the Palm Strike Master (Lan ShouChi)

[mystic idol]

yupyup the theories makes sense to me too

[rigid idol]

LORE?? NO LORE. ONLY FIST. GIVE ME FIST!!!!!!

[wintry falcon]

Literally everything makes infinitely more sense now thank you

[iron canyon]

||Especially combining with what LiZuo said (QuXia, the double meaning). certain close-ups of the soldier's state and how zdb is also being called as the dream puppet disaster. The harmonizer may be more than accident by design as a result of the various variables affecting the ritual ||

[royal plover]

Jianghu is like in jjk, there common ppl who dunno about curse magic, then there curse sorcerer, if someone learning use curse magic they immediately step into jjk world.

Same like jianghu, there common ppl and there ppl knew kungfu and martial art

[honest pagoda]

[tardy swift]

Wanted to ask something, why is it that in my solo world where ||moon maiden is, you know lady hideout beneath the lake|| Is drained but in multiplayer it is not?

[dapper mason]

[fathom obsidian]

Does anyone know when the next expansion will be realeased n what/wherell it be?

[spice scaffold]

spicy broth bow - where can i buy that food?

[celest flume]

Palm strike master not sage
Sage is fang bai's teacher

[tardy swift]

Lore monks I require wisdom
In current history and or era of the current game timeline.

Has Confucius been born yet or no. If not how long till he spawns in according to history of the game?

[sinful quail]

iirc conficius and confucianism was born/created around 500 bc, the current wwm story (excluding hexi) takes place around the very start of the song dynasty, ~1000 ad

[dire token]

daily

[iron canyon]

oops, just realized I made a typo

[lean magnet]

He is long dead during the game

[unkempt atlas]

🥹

[lofty steppe]

Hey guys

Can anyone please help me

[unkempt belfry]

yo hello i m new here

[humble ledge]

Where did the other girl end up?

[deft quail]

https://tenor.com/view/where-winds-meet-wwm-where-winds-meet-gif-8995709071915995642

[hollow mango]

this probly marked the 100th i saw this gif, never get old

[north pivot]

With what?

[eternal widget]

Maybe around july. And i think the next map is hidden mountain

[unkempt belfry]

yo hello

anyone wanna play with me

[lofty steppe]

I was doing the scene of mission to friends to the end where u go inside the cave where painting of old painter is there and u want to view certain things

I went ahead a viewed blue pollen and when the question started the pollen disappeared

And now I'm not able to view it

[cursive garnet]

So ChangAn is Wanderer's true home?

[west drum]

Can we visit peace groove after the sunkan city quest

Or only 1 time?

[tiny frost]

YM gathering ladies from each region

[hollow mango]

only by replay the quest\

[west drum]

I mean in this map

We can revisit?

[hollow mango]

no

like it was practically sinked by MC time/dream time

it make no sense to allow you to visit there

[west drum]

Bruhh

I need to take some photos and videos

[hollow mango]

you can replay the quest (in future for global), just wait

[shy flame]

hi have someone in here stuck and can login when was in online multiplayer mode ?

[west drum]

#🌱beginner-questions message

[ocean skiff]

U're ded bro. Definitely dead

[karmic trench]

The Sunken City quest reminded me How much I love this game

[foggy tiger]

No mc home is blissful retreat lol

Remember hexi is a dreamscape. And it's not mc's dream it's somebody elses

[whole sparrow]

hi, I have the same problem, the screensaver just froze and won’t load anymore

my friend couldn’t log in either, are you from the Asian region by any chance?

[cursive garnet]

But we see MC kid at the end of hexi main story. He was taken by Unlcle jiang but veiled women was abandonned by Li zuo

[foggy tiger]

Ah u mean where mc was born?

Presumably near zhongdu I guess

But zhongdu is not Chang an

[shy flame]

yes our is SEA server and we just login and logout a several time and now we can playing game normaly

[sinful quail]

they live happily ever after selling flatbread in chang an wdym

[humble ledge]

Oh really?

Finally, something happy

[graceful basalt]

hello where is general chat? i have a info to ask about gvg

[mellow horizon]

#💬martial-pavilion

But for questions I would recommend you to use #🌱beginner-questions

[wet grove]

ww les fr vous etes ou

[flint yacht]

are all parts of hexi released or any left?

[grim sequoia]

All of them are out, including the final part which was added during Bujian Mountains in CN

[fleet herald]

btw, lore chat

are the lore videos by 'wwm girl' 100% accurate?

[grim sequoia]

She does a breakdown on the plot but imo it's not exactly what happened, because I remember the coin plotline being misinterpreted by her

[terse barn]

[sharp lily]

No it's just an interpretation

[iron canyon]

changan is not only referring to the geographical location, if you read this pinned message (#📖lore-chat message) it will make more sense. YM was picked up from the Zhongdu bridge war, and the map will be roughly the area on top of qinghe

[iron canyon]

Interpretations can differ from ppl, but if you're looking for someone who sums up & threads up the plot & the relations it's definitely good (the devs love to leave open endings / holes that might or might not be filled, so some views may be different)

[distant sage]

cool

[tardy swift]

Khans are currently a thing in game current history right?

[royal plover]

I cant progress friend to the end quest in mustard hut.

No npc only yellow circle

[short topaz]

No, there are no khans here at the moment, as that is a Mongol title.
It’s mainly the Han people and the Khitans.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​ which have other titles

Yes, it’s for deeper depression about all lore

[sharp lily]

yea even in history.. historians tended to be really obscure and indirect when they said things (and some things didn't survive) so there's always room for interpretation

Like Zhang Huishen's death, some people knew but they weren't telling.. what they knew and what they wrote down were two separate things.. there's the implication that someone in the family (possibly Huaiding, Yichao's son) did it but we'll never know cos no one really wanted that recorded for posterity 🙂

[sharp lily]

Depends on which Khans you mean.. the Uyghur Khaganate controlled the area east of the Hexi corridor at that time. Aynur comes from there. The "famous" Khans (the Mongols under Genghis Khan) would not show up until hundreds of years later.

[royal plover]

Qinchuan the best map so far

[fleet herald]

I see

[torn tiger]

[deft quail]

https://tenor.com/view/non-gif-4296718981864159247

[quasi cedar]

.

[west drum]

Fr so peaceful

[torpid prawn]

Can someone help me defeat Wucan in 180 seconds?

[grim sequoia]

Since the game's currently in year 962. If we're in year 963, we're gonna help Big Zhao destroy Jingnan

[vague shoal]

jiangnan will probably be the next big city after kaifeng

[grim sequoia]

Jiangnan is the location we're meant to be going after Bujian Mountains from the same questline, there's a certain NPC who's gonna come with us and I feel like Global should get the Blissful Retreat base before that

[vague shoal]

whatever the capital of southern tang is will be made into a city

[grim sequoia]

Yeah but you see. ||Chen Zixi shows at the end of that questline and I think he and his little disciple will go with us to Jiangnan.||

[north trench]

Godmother? Aunt Han?

[sharp lily]

I suppose so, the translations are always off I guess 🙂

[sharp lily]

#🌱beginner-questions ? Also imma watch your channel, masked troupe is not easy but you do it for a living

[karmic trench]

I just finished Chapter 3

it might have been the best story I have ever encountered in a game so far

so many complications yet everything attaches together towards one goal to reach home

honestly this game deserves way more attention than its getting rn

[iron canyon]

Yeah, it's to differentiate the ways YM address Aunt Han, in this case YM uses 干娘 (which means godmother/second mother figure that's not biologically related), while in the painter quest YM used 养母 (adoptive/foster mother) our YM misses their aunt a lot

[karmic hatch]

[shell salmon]

.

[karmic trench]

when will we get to replay the entire qinchuan quest?

[karmic sundial]

Want to ask, what date inkbound sect will release?

[primal wadi]

We need a future expansion to replay the life of Tian Ying

[torpid loom]

Did they change the where winds meet voice actor for the female MC in hexi???? her voice sounds deeper.

[royal plover]

What the deal with northern mountain platue, what with that little girl, is this still same story with the friend to the end quest?

[timid cedar]

I am looking for two players. Can they help me with some good clips so that I can make content?

DM me if you're interested.

[solar lintel]

we love lore

[tall elm]

[buoyant wigeon]

Hello

[pastel radish]

i just know for sure the guanyin lady and the anliuli guy is gonna be a tragic love story

this is gonna make me depressed

[simple valve]

Why does Fang Bai appear after he should have died in sunken city lake? During the running cutscene

[vivid hare]

In the cinematic after completing the light/dark surge, who is the first guy that picks up the golden peach off Guo Xin, walks it through the snow storm and drops it off a cliff to Zhang Yichao?

[rapid sapphire]

hhhhelll nuh

helll yuss

[dry bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-stare-kitty-cat-silly-cat-gif-6353129062187150970

[tall junco]

Hey all

[foggy tiger]

Eh I never heard my character refer to her as 干娘 before but 养母 more than once I think

I'm using male character tho

Idk if female might have different voiceline

[foggy tiger]

That's the guy u play in the tavern filling out the travel document

Can't remember the name rn

[glossy hedge]

Anyone having issues not being able to change seasons on PS5?

[ebon plaza]

I just filled it out quickly haha

[smoky condor]

SOmeone can spoil me with "spoil alert" || || if the protagonist ||really come to qinchuan|| ?

[west drum]

Is there any way to replay the qinchuan quest

[flint yacht]

what is a harmonizer?

[tall junco]

Good evening everyone

[undone edge]

Can I have e the same account on pc and mobile?

[sterile path]

Yes, just log your main acc to game acc/Google acc/ twitter and etc in the settings

[undone edge]

Ty

[tardy swift]

Whatever happen to deer saint

[iron canyon]

ym used 干娘during that exploration quest in liangzhou (the msg I replied) tho myb just a small detail that we missed out, idt the gender affects the lines, but from the increase in frequency of ym referring to her as 养母 shows how much YM is actually missing her

[iron canyon]

if you look back at your dark surge fragments, you would realized some parts of the text were highlighted in orange (his name & story were filled, mainly in the first & second part), he's Lan He, a masked troupe disciple that went out from chang'an to retrieve the peach

[wide edge]

Hey y'all so when you get the map switch for Liangzhou, it says past and fallen. Is fallen the future/current state or an alternate timeline kind of thing?

[grim kindle]

Its past and further past

[night raptor]

❤️

[eternal widget]

People with special abilities like wind sense, talk with ghosts, foresight, etc. basically YM has the ability unlike common folks.

[primal wadi]

Are we harmonizers or does the jade fragment contain the memory’s?

[graceful nymph]

[mossy pumice]

hi

[iron canyon]

Think of YM/BaiChuYu as salt and the world as water, YM is basically compatible & able to resonate with all beings

[iron canyon]

both, YM & BaiChuYu are the exceptionally talented ones that got backed up with the ability of the jade, which is to amplify their talent and act like a memory hard drive that records everything

[primal wadi]

Peak, do we still have our half? Ik uncle jiang took it but can’t remember if we got it back

[celest flume]

No, unc jiang still have the jade

[maiden wing]

unfortunately we don't know why Jiang needs it but it's safe to say that it is in better hands in his than ours

[foggy tiger]

yea no doubt for sure

especially when mc just 16 now still considered teenager

surely will miss his mother very much

[tame estuary]

[tight plaza]

can't wait future story

[primal wadi]

Yea we would have probably had it scammed from us the second we walked into Kaifeng

[maiden wing]

so true

[primal wadi]

Does Kaifeng palace push the story forward? I remember hearing about aunt Han when it dropped in CN. But Ik it’s also a flashback for big Zhao. No spoilers 🙏

[maiden wing]

Indeed!

Idk about Imperial Palace but I do believe the sections are in the present, dunno if we go to the past with the exception of Big Zhao flashback

[primal wadi]

Oh okay thats great to know. Honestly very excited to see aunt Han and uncle Jiang again

[maiden wing]

I do know that the scene you see her in the Imperial Palace trailer IS a Flashback bc you can go inside that same tower and investigate what happened there

but other than that we are kinda left in the dark as to the significance of its inclusion

[elfin oriole]

[tired jolt]

[lean magnet]

Plus you get to see big Zhao as a rlly cute plump tiger

[north trench]

@scenic obsidian can anyone help me understand skinny arhat ending quest.

So skinny arhat is Worthy one buddha reincarnation something like that. So the scholar ask us to give wuzhen(aka skinny arhat) scrap clothes as symbol of gratitude for protecting Buddhist them from mutun. Wuzhen doesn't want to accept that he say he not worthy. The we search who worthy. Then zhang yichao. Zhang yichao doesn't want to accept.... Then we figure out skinny arhat is people is all the people in liangzhou who work together to protect. We want to put the rope at temple if i not mistaken. Then wuzhen say now we in peace skinny arhat is no longer a skinny arhat they just take their original role back monk is monk clothes maker is clothes maker coppersmith is copper Smith.

So we meet scholar the scholar say take that rope with us.

Then we found beggar ask for rope because he cold. MC say you're skinny arhat. The beggar say what is arhat i am skinny.

So we give the rope to beggar then mc say. "I understand it now, i understand it now".

What does mc understand blud. Please tell me if anyone know

[grim sequoia]

You get thrown into an illusion by the guy in green playing the flute

[north trench]

Maybe skinny arhat is friend we made along the way

[lean magnet]

Basically from what I can understand, it about you giving back to the community.

The community was the one that help out the monk to reach to Chang An which is why he refused the cloth in the first place because by right, it’s should be the common folks, not him.

Now it is peaceful thus what use is the cloth place on a statue for people to worship at.

The begger is represented as the common folks thus in a sense, you are giving them back the clothes that represented so much hardship to bring the message to Chang An of liangzhou is now part of the tang

[lean magnet]

Basically that

[paper rampart]

燕云们，好久不见！
我想知道柏家是哪来的？
怎么楚玉的姓名是柏，不是李？

[primal wadi]

Is it fair to say tian Ying was us before us?

I didn’t mean to reply to that message btw

Or is tian Ying more of an anti hero?

[iron canyon]

It's shares quite a similar theme with the One Leaf, One life (gold leaf quest) where they portray the key to a plan/policy success is actually on the commoners, their efforts may not be as well known as those heroes or figures, commoners also play a huge role in stability. Skinny arhat was born from pain/suffering (representing the commoners who lived through the pressure), and was eliminated when those in need were assisted. That's why YM understood how the "Skinny Arhat" isn't just someone/one person who achieved great deeds, like the monk or general YiChao, but rather the commoners who contributed their strength on their own ways.

[iron canyon]

柏楚玉是李祚专门给的名字（毕竟楚玉是孤儿），是李祚对柳青衣的期许和和愿望。柏对应柳（柳太脆弱了，他的青衣应该像柏树那样长寿），楚玉或许是用来描述青衣（也有人扒出来文学根据）
LiZuo named her baichuyu to honor LiuQingYi, Bai (柏, pine) bc it represents longevity & stability, if compared with 柳 (Liu, Willow), Liu is much more fragile). While ChuYu could mean that his QingYi is as valuable as a jade Not sure what language should I reply in

[lean magnet]

My knowledge of the game lore is not too good but uh I would not say he is like us before cuz I think he is already well established in the jianghu by then but I would agree that tian Ying is an antihero cuz he did lead the death of many jianghu warriors to ensure the tang envoy make his way to the kithan.

[primal wadi]

Do u think he’s still alive after the fight with us?

[lean magnet]

|| yes, there a cutscene of him applying a disguise before heading to the southern tang area if I could remember correctly. Plus it would be strange for some random young jianghu wanderer to off a guy of his skill level||

[paper rampart]

了解！柏就是双关语为李祚继续想念柳青衣。谢谢

[paper rampart]

River all red is actually 满江红？

Why is it a bottle of wine in game

[flint yacht]

Do we learn this in hexi?

[eternal widget]

From the dark surge qinchuan yes

And our experience from qinghe, kaifeng, and hexi

[paper rampart]

Harmonisers can do that. Huajing is OG example. Then we have veiled lady and YM

[flint yacht]

Ohh okay. I heard this term first time 🤔

[paper rampart]

We’re basically daredevil without the side effects

But we’re not superman

[iron canyon]

It honestly fits the sect well, given that 满江红 is a poem expressing loyalty & determination to recover lost lands / contribute to the nation, which is also part of the reason why the 9 prisoners established the sect

[iron canyon]

I suppose it will be better when they fix the empty descriptions of the dark surge, it does give info about the harmonizers ~~but now it's empty ~~

[flint yacht]

oh okay. what is dark surge now

[paper rampart]

Yeah! This lore entertained me so much

[paper rampart]

The completion of dark surge shows us who we really are and what is golden peach

[tardy swift]

It was also throrized only certian bloodlines have this power.

[paper rampart]

Safe to say zhang huaishen is our great grand pa

[iron canyon]

Each map has their own bright (main quests you're doing) & dark surge (hidden story), if you go to journal -> tales & echos, you can view all of them

[iron canyon]

Li Zuo / (mostly wangqing) Wang Qing are more famously rumoured as our father XD tho the devs confirmed, YM is an orphan from the battlefield

[paper rampart]

Whose family lived at the zhongdu bridge… should live near farms, not bridges

Aintnoway YM is wangqing’s baby. Who the heck brought babies to war

[solemn zealot]

Hi can someone tell me why i have higher ms (ping) when i paly in Co-op and how can i fix it?

[iron canyon]

at times like that people never know when a war will break, one day they're still peacefully enjoying life probably at the same day war will begin though, that doesn't stop players from being a bit too imaginative/creative when resources were limited

[flint yacht]

oh okay\

[flint yacht]

i see

[grim sequoia]

The game likes to give us Wang Qing POV just to screw us over

Remember, becoming a father at 50s isn't strange at all

[iron canyon]

If different maps have different "MCs" in their stories, like qinghe being Tian Ying and kaifeng being Zhu Yu, Wang Qing would be the "MC" threading the story of wwm (through the continuation of legacy, not only when he was still alive), he's the devs "selfishness", in terms of making this general who was almost forgotten in history to stay in wwm's stories, given that the little wanderer's story also started from the battle that Wang Qing is destined to lose. This came from an official news record when the game was featured in Netease's Online Conference

[tardy swift]

So its like how Dragonball XenoUnivrse had those "what if stories and outcomes".

Except they're keeping someone alive, having AI of historic figures sorta fuze with that outcome.

[boreal hawk]

Not to mention he was rescued by uncle Jiang from prison. He probably recognised who Mc is halfway in the fight like big bro Zhao recognise mc sword style lol

[glossy cloak]

🥹

[distant sage]

COOL

[royal jewel]

Tbf the YM is quite strong like no joke
Maybe not on the level of heaviest hitters but in wuxia terms, a rising talent of young dragon

[paper rampart]

Yeah, wait till our cloud step upgrade

[royal jewel]

T6?

Honestly I wonder do you think bujian mountains will be next like either next week or the week after or imperial palace then hidden mountain

[paper rampart]

New VFX. Cloud Step shows a dragon gate

Or Hexi Jade Pass Gate

[paper rampart]

bujian mountain is hidden mountain

[paper rampart]

we're getting imperial palace next

[royal jewel]

Oh I know that but my keyboard and the word bujian are having a war so I just switched mid sentence to hidden

[royal jewel]

Hmmm
Will we get fist weapons? Or wait till hidden mountain
Or is the moist hill in hidden mountains

[paper rampart]

gauntlets only from mohist hills

mohist hills is in bujianshan patch

[royal jewel]

Sigh till June until my role playing heng blade and fist martial art is complete

[south widget]

how to play game ?

[ocean wedge]

[light sable]

By playing it

[nocturne grail]

daily hii

[flint sand]

daily too

[flint yacht]

is there a youtuber who posted all parts of hexi story, that i can rewatch?

[tepid breach]

Guys pls why can I not complete the Lunar Eidolon boss fight quest? Every time I get the boss health down, it disappears after a cutscene where I draw a sword to strike.

[karmic trench]

will we get to see Weiyang in chapter 4 of where winds meet?

[quasi geode]

[timid spindle]

Qianye is actually aunt han's brother, he took the face of Qianye and pretended to be Qianye.

He dispises Aunt han for leaving him just like that

[mellow horizon]

Maybe

[stoic geyser]

Anyone know when we getting fist?😅

[karmic trench]

It would be epic ngl

Knowing more about ember of east lore would be interesting with the map Weiyang

[mellow horizon]

Might take some time
And please use #💬martial-pavilion or #🌱beginner-questions for this kind of question

[quartz wolf]

So if Hexi and its region are set in the past , why are we getting refferences to characters from present in Qinchuan?

[foggy tiger]

Those references are from mc's own memories and experiences and desires and imagination

[quartz wolf]

So the stories we experience in Qinchuan are still set in the past?

[foggy tiger]

Yeah

[hearty summit]

yep

[royal plover]

What dynasty sun tzu alive?

[echo scroll]

wha?

[celest gust]

Hey everyone, does anyone know when bujian mountain will be released? Thanks

[celest flume]

Ask in #💬martial-pavilion
Not here

[sacred current]

wondering the same too

[iron canyon]

It's a recurring a theme of the game, why is wwm called so (in cn, 燕云十六声). Sounds are a key setting, and sounds can be heard at the intersection of winds. When winds blow through different "holes" (represented by the world's nature, whether it's the earth, mountains, living or dead beings etc), different sounds/rhythms can be made (风吹孔窍而成籁). Winds represent the world setting (amidst chaos where stability and peace may be broken by war/chaos anytime), while the nature, and living beings (the characters, including YM) are the wind instrument that produces different tones & sounds (different people, different lives). YM is able to listen to all these sounds, that's why you keep encountering ghosts, dreams or "going back" to the past, YM is naturally sensitive and is able to respond to them, making them the harmonizers (in cn，应律之人, harmonizing is one of their abilities, if you translate the cn term directly to english, it means "The one who resonates to the sounds")

That's why you would notice, a lot of characters actually share similarities with each other, even with YM, but their lives were significantly different

[primal wadi]

How do I blur a spoiler portion of a question I want to ask

Well I forgot the lore with shimmer of South. ||Is he aunt Hans brother? And is half of him qianye?||

[lofty hinge]

To spoiler, do | | this | | but remove the spaces between the pairs of |

[viscid oar]

Sun Tzu lived during the Eastern Zhou dynasty (Spring and Autumn period)

[royal plover]

Is this before 3 kingdom?

[viscid oar]

Yes! Eastern Zhou Dynasty is divided into two period( the Spring and Autumn Period and the Warring States Period), then it goes into Qin dynasty, and then Han dynasty, and then Three Kingdoms Period

[iron canyon]

Shimmer of South is the ruler of Southern Tang, the two kids you see in his quest on the chess board is aunt han & her brother

[primal wadi]

||Her brother is half of Qianye? Is that him during the 2nd phase of the fight with her?||

[iron canyon]

those are the more probable theories we have, it's not confirmed yet, qianye is most probably the noblewoman from liang family

[primal wadi]

Thanks I got it. I’m happy there’s still a lot more of the story to see

[primal wadi]

I wanted to know more context about unfated tian. I know he’s our uncle, and guided us a lot. But did he also grow up with aunt Han and uncle jiang? Was he a martial artists and anything else about him

[viscid oar]

Tian Ying didn't grow up with aunt Han and uncle Jiang. He was a legendary swordsman. In 936, after Shi Jingtang ceded the Sixteen Prefectures of Yanyun to the Khitans, the Central Plains remained ravaged by war, and countless common people were displaced from their homes. The young Tian Ying fled alongside his younger brother, Tian Qi, eventually arriving at a village by Baoshan Lake in Qinghe. There, they were taken in by a blacksmith and survived by working at his forge.

[primal wadi]

Hold on

Unfated tian is tian ying?

[grim sequoia]

No, Unfated Tian is older than Tian Ying

[viscid oar]

Oh wait I got it wrong

[viscid oar]

Sorry I got it wrong, I though you are saying Tian Ying.

[grim sequoia]

Tian Ying is 29 years old at present

[primal wadi]

That’s really young lol. For reference how old are uncle Jiang and aunt Han?

[viscid oar]

Unfated Tian should be 天不收. Sorry, I play on the Chinese servers, so I’m not completely sure about the official English translation.

[grim sequoia]

Uncle Jiang is 35 years old as of year 962 and Aunt Han is around her 40s

[primal wadi]

Oh np. I meant the other npc from blissful retreat. He escorted us in the moon goddess quest

But I learnt that he works for aunt Han. And also was hired by tian ying

[quasi sluice]

Unfated Tian is actually a woman

[viscid oar]

Unfated Tian’s exact age isn’t really clear. I only know that her birthday is September 28th.

[viscid oar]

And she’s had a crush on Aunt Han for a long time.

[primal wadi]

She did a face swap? Because I remember seeing a beard

[primal wadi]

Aww but is aunt Hans husband still alive?

[viscid oar]

She disguised herself as a boy.

[viscid oar]

Aunt Han's husband is Chu Qingquan, he was killed in a battle.

[viscid oar]

On the way back, while Yi Dao was carrying him, Chu Qingquan stopped breathing completely.

[primal wadi]

That’s so sad and I wish uncle tian saw yi dao before he died. But recently I saw a wild theory that ||aunt Han also saved yi dao from the fire with us.|| but I don’t believe that. Anyway for now I’ll wait for a happy reunion

[plain star]

And his body felt in the river. Uncle is so damn daed 😔 .

[viscid oar]

I was crying so hard I could barely breathe at the time

[plain star]

He is the only "dead character" I actually want to be secretly survive.
Poor samoyed WoH uncle.

[viscid oar]

I think Yi Dao is dead. If you choose Yi Dao when asking an old Jianghu companion to help you fight a boss, it even shows Yi Dao’s spirit.

[primal wadi]

Did you see it in a cut scene on CN server or is this lore from dark surges?

[viscid oar]

It’s in Yi Dao’s dialogue lines.

[tardy swift]

I kinda messed up a certian story part either because i went to fast or something, but involved lot of politics.
So guy in whitecrown fortress is brother of another govener in clearjade market, am i getting this right?

Then brother died, (one in whitecrown, and from what im getting at is the other went on military crusade to re-capture everything but the court of emperor were being d--k heads about it and not giving him the title and land that he secured?

But only gave him two peices of what he did?

Little kid is possbily brother that died and became the living brother strength and we ended up killing living brother inner demon which was the snake?

and i didnt quiet understand one journey with the guy againg with the monk.

[tardy swift]

This one

Not sure if related to the two brothers or not

[viscid oar]

You mean the “此身归唐” storyline?

[tardy swift]

if that apart of the two brother then yea?

unless its two different dynasty at that point

🤔

I know foretress was held by the tang

[foggy tiger]

There're other helpers on the signpost tho and they aren't dead

[viscid oar]

If I remember correctly, the child we met in the Market was actually a young Zhang Yichao—you could also understand him as the symbol of Zhang Yichao’s original aspiration. When he was a child, Zhang Yichao witnessed the country falling into chaos and war, and he longed to bring peace back to the people. That is why he later resolved to reclaim the Hexi region.

[foggy tiger]

Yidao is definitely dead yea but probably don't use the signpost to gauge

[tardy swift]

Makes sense

Like odd form of enlightment

[viscid oar]

But by the time he was in his thirties, people had begun to doubt his abilities, and he was never given the chance to fully realize his ambitions. So he asked the monk when he would be able to fulfill his ideals. The monk, in turn, asked him: was he trying to rebel, or to bring peace? Zhang Yichao realized that what he truly fought for was the well-being of the people and the recovery of lost lands, so that they could live in peace and stability.

[tardy swift]

Makes sense.

he was really restless.

[foggy tiger]

He was tired of waiting

He waited from his early twenties till 49 years old

[viscid oar]

Many years later, Zhang Yichao finally got the opportunity and successfully reclaimed Hexi, returning it to the Tang Dynasty. However, at that time the emperor was weak and incompetent, unable to recognize Zhang Yichao’s loyalty, and instead saw him as a potential threat because of the military power he held.

The Emperor refused to grant him the legitimate title of Jiedushi(governor) of Hexi, effectively branding him as a rebel. Zhang Yichao could not accept such humiliation of his loyalty, and resentment gradually took root in his heart, becoming a lingering knot in his mind.

Until the day he grew old, he heard the voice of his younger self questioning him: “Are you fighting for the people, or for empty reputation?”

Zhang Yichao then awakened to the truth—he had always fought for the people.

[tardy swift]

Mm what about the whole brother thing?

It mentions two brothers and one got sent to be a hostage

[viscid oar]

The general of Whitecrown fortress was another man, Guo Xin. He and Zhang Yichao were not brothers, but they shared the same ideals.

[tardy swift]

Ah so now its coming together bit more.

[foggy tiger]

His brother was an imperial hostage. Kept at the capital to keep him in line

His brother died. And the court summoned him to take his brother's place

That's why u have the snake and the boy

[tardy swift]

Snake is symbolism for knot in his heart

is what im getting at

[viscid oar]

Yes

[foggy tiger]

At that point he had just finished conquering hexi. Imagine waiting from 20yo to 49yo and finally embarking and completing your lifelong wish and quest then instead of rewarding u with governor title, the court demands u leave your post and leave behind everything u ever worked for

[viscid oar]

Historically, Guo Xin was a general who died for his country in 808 AD. Zhang Yichao, on the other hand, can be seen as a successor to the ideal of defending the nation’s territory. Zhang Yichao was born in 799 AD and died in 872 AD.

[tardy swift]

at end of it so far it seems like he choose to fight, seeing as he took up a sword again?

[foggy tiger]

He picked up the sword to kill the lil kid who represent one of his desires

After that I don't remember any pick up sword part

[tardy swift]

Interesting, thankyou all for explaining this to me.

[viscid oar]

Yeah, Zhang Yichao cut away his inner demons and decided to accept the emperor’s arrangement, returning to Chang’an in exchange for the stability of Hexi. Later, his nephew—Zhang Huaishen—succeeded him in continuing to govern and defend the Hexi.

[sinful wasp]

I saw some Uruks in a shattered library in the sky. Are they supposed to represent foreign invaders or something?

[pearl crane]

in my point of view they are like Bleach's hollows 😄

[celest flume]

Yes, they represent the Tibets at that time but devs didn't want to offend so they made them raptors instead of men

[tardy swift]

||God this woman is annoying||

Liaz Daou arc is interesting tho

[iron canyon]

Instead of fight, it's actually submitting to fate & eliminating what makes up his personality all this time, the sword was later passed down to his nephew. There's nothing much that can be done when the court's distrust never fades, and it only got worse when his nephew HuaiShen took over

[tardy swift]

Makes sense and also kinda sound horrbile for the nephew.

Uh i just got done with the Lian Daozi story and it confused the f--k out me

Or at least start of it?

apart of it makes me think he related to Zhang Yichao

[iron canyon]

LianDaozi and the paper moon quest (2nd main quest for LiangZhou), took place at the same time with the Death of the Governor quest, the two are not related, but LianDaoZi's great grandfather is XiaoLian (Lian Er Lang) from the burlap sack quest

[naive marten]

Hello

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[sharp lily]

Yes she kind of is lol

[iron canyon]

I would recommend you wwm girl's videos if you're interested (she posted one combining the two main quests in LiangZhou), or 软软喵大人's (she posted separate videos for the 2 quests, and she has english subtitles)

[shell dragon]

Hellooo idk if this is the right channel to ask, but I’m just wondering, if I go to hexi before starting kaifeng main story (i’ve finished qinghe), how would it affect my story experience? I really want to go there to unlock the inner ways for umbrella+rope dart but I also care a lot about experiencing the overall story 😅

[celest flume]

it doesnt affect your story experience

[plush agate]

I'm new to this game and it's so overwhelming 😭 there's tons of stuff.

[onyx mist]

hii

I just downloaded this game and haven't figured out how to play it yet

[wicked wedge]

daily text

[real glade]

Hexi TLDR; prelude of story

[foggy tiger]

Yea I mostly watch 喵大人 its very good

[scarlet yarrow]

veiled woman is ym parallel?

[sharp bough]

tragic😭

[grim sequoia]

Her name is inspired by Liu Qingyi, Li Zuo raised her as a weapon than a human

[tiny frost]

YM and Chuyu are both Harmonizers (they also possess ||half of the jade aka golden peach||). Chuyu was taken in by Li Zuo bc she resembles his dead lover but neglected her, YM was supposedly taken by him too if it weren't for Uncle Jiang. So yeah, it's like two sides of the same coin.

[grim sequoia]

They were picked up from two different locations in the same bridge

[scarlet yarrow]

i see.. so the angle where ym is probably li zuo's child is now debunked?

[grim sequoia]

That would just complicate things a lot since some theorist in CN tend to gravitate towards Wang Qing over Li Zuo and melon being a sliver of hope from the dead soldiers is some feng shui bs

But then again I tend to prefer mundane and original lore from the writers having an alternate take on history

Like they gave a massive uplift on Wang Qing and turned him to a tragic hero (based)

[sharp lily]

Might even make it better since actually I think Hexi is historically before Kaifeng (isn't it?)

[iron canyon]

devs confirmed, ym is an orphan, they're neither LiZuo nor Wang Qing's child

[worldly quarry]

Join Me on the Qin Chuan Four Seasons Scenery Card Journey and Unlock Exclusive Rewardshttps://www.wherewindsmeetgame.com/jm/web/api/s/ljqED7Gw

Need help

[grim sequoia]

This is not the right channel buddy

[iron canyon]

there's a channel for this #card-exchange-hub

[grim sequoia]

They only said orphan found in Zhongdu Bridge, they didn't say the jade was entrusted randomly to them

[royal plover]

Why everyone after fang bai, and how fang bai have the peach?

[grim sequoia]

If the baby (our melon) was found wrapped then it's a suggestion the baby was not just born today

[iron canyon]

What Wang Qing did in the zhongdu bridge war, what major events happened (other than what we know from the Twisted Destiny encounter), it's honestly a question mark. What I can say is that, Wang Qing as the jade holder, definitely had some sort of plan in trying to break through whatever is going on in the war it will be complicated to explain, but the theories we have now are slowly getting filled & verified at least ||which very much explains why the hell a baby and a kid is present and even survived the battle||

[iron canyon]

fang bai got the peach from the palm strike sage, everyone in qinchuan is basically after the peach, the moment they caught wind that fang bai has it, it's natural that everyone would come after him

[royal plover]

Palm strike sage and palm strike master are different person?

[tiny frost]

long been debunked since the CN recent updates

tho it hasn't been clear how YM as a baby got the jade, there's someone who gave him that jade def

[grim sequoia]

||The Hutuo campaign gives a bit of new info about Wang Qing and turns out he actually chose to take the poison to not only hold the bridge and keep Jiang Yan away but to not lose to a bet with Li Zuo as known in Hexi's ending||

[tiny frost]

https://tenor.com/view/respect-hats-off-gif-14737919

[grim sequoia]

||He also did it to spite Li Zuo's offer to become immortal||

[iron canyon]

Despite the question marks, it's not hard to notice that aside from the whole jade, harmonizing, sounds theme, the other theme is exactly longevity. A lot of people were obsessed over immortality, like Sun BuQi (who got obsessed over it thinking it could eliminate the suffering from illnesses), and LiZuo (to build a nation of pure kindness, he aimed to achieve this by implementing dream puppets/immortality), even commoners too (who once came to wraith village to seek for ways to achieve immortality, or in hexi's everdeer story) and more. These all represent physical immortality, and it comes with a price which is you'll lose your emotions and sanity, the qualities that make a person "alive".

Wang Qing took a different turn, which is spiritual immortality, achieved through the jade (like a memory hard drive) & YM/BaiChuYu (who brought us to experience the past that got buried). It can be seen during the chess match, from the first match when they were still close friends, in the second deviating in terms of ideals and at last, knowing there's absolutely nothing that can be done for the death match, Wang Qing decided to become one of the pieces, entering the dead match not to reverse the outcome, but to interfere with something, so that Jiang, and as much people can stay alive. As long as there are surviors, as long as someone is able to respond to the calls of those beings, his story (and the others who was forgotten) will be told and known by the future generations, thus being "immortal".

[royal plover]

Why ppl think the peach can give immortality, where tjis rumour start

[iron canyon]

it came from the jianghu. since something so valuable and mysterious where only very few know about it, people would speculate a lot just like what we were doing now when wwm still haven't filled in the plotholes XD, my message above just explained how the jade actually achieves immortality but a different kind

[tiny frost]

there's also the theory that it can make the wearer see the future

that's why Jiang got a small glimpse of YM facing Li Zuo

[fallow tide]

There is a theory we are going south on a new update after we finish the quest on north

[flint yacht]

no images?

[mystic idol]

not a theory

in cn qingzhou just came out, but in second half of 2026 will be Jiangnan (the south)

[flint yacht]

i want to share a burlap sack summary for checking it, but links dont work

[flint yacht]

...?

[hardy olive]

Do the story related or different burlap etc.. like burlap with the two pivebirds

[plush agate]

Can we buy stronger weapons from the shop or stronger weapons are unlocked as the game progresses?
I'm sorry for the noob question. I'm new to game and there's a ton of stuff in there to do

[glacial dust]

One lore question: what is the obsession with white hair in Chinese lore? is it related to nobility? or power?

I really want to understand why gacha hair is always white or extremely light color

[white acorn]

Honk honk

[plain star]

I think it's popular trope in cdramas, white hair = powerful entity that not belong to the earthly world (fairies, demons,....)

[glacial dust]

Thanks for the info! ❤️

[lofty hinge]

Also just rule of cool in media in general: you can see this in Japanese and western fiction among others as well. Edit: it can also signify trauma, aka Marie Antoinette Syndrome. Zheng E would be a likely example, since we saw him with dark hair as a child.

[glacial dust]

One more question: That kpop/cpop/jpop facial features is just modern take right? that is not related to chinese lore right?

[lofty hinge]

Pure aesthetics, yeah

[glacial dust]

ok got one more question

That ghostly skin/ yuki onna type skin

is that also related to "powerful entity that not belong to the earthly world (fairies, demons,....)" or is that modern thing?

[lofty hinge]

It can be supernatural or the application of makeup that was fashionable in certain eras, depending on the character or figure. In the case of the Moon Goddess quest, and the individual seen there, it could also have to do with being out of the sun for a long time. I would say let context help you decide what fits.

If I recall one of the npc voice lines in Kaifeng comments on white makeup catching on lately (English dub)

[glacial dust]

so mostly its a makeup trend

[lofty hinge]

For non-supernatural characters I think the mundane answer will often fit. These things do have foundations in their historical context (you can look at paintings and illustrations from this time period) while also having artistic embellishment/interpretation by the devs, is how I see it.

[glacial dust]

from dev's perspective, it makes sense, pictures used to have lighter skin painted for humans

For players, it just modern trend right?

something like this

https://tenor.com/view/winter-kim-minjeong-aespa-aespa-meme-kpop-gif-3730753137632470587

[lofty hinge]

If you were to search "Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms period art/fashion" I think you'd find it more illustrative. It's not all one or the other, but a blend of historical and modern stylization, I'd say.

[glacial dust]

https://tenor.com/view/taking-notes-noting-listening-writing-write-that-down-gif-1206669466397048571

[lofty hinge]

The graphics aren't hyperrealistic (which honestly I prefer) for example, but they do feel convincing for the setting. For cases of stark white pallor, we see both supernatural examples and have references to the makeup of the time, and if you do a search you'll see that white makeup and how that looked. If you're asking whether characters are all presented 100% historically accurate, I would think stylization and artistic flair are certainly involved as befits the medium and genre. Others are more qualified to comment in depth, but wuxia has a fantasy feel to me so I keep that in mind.

[glacial dust]

I think its ok for devs to take some artistic freedom, the story is heavily inspired but not exact ancient lore

[lofty hinge]

Yeah, I feel the same way

[glacial dust]

thanks for the info ❤️ @lofty hinge

[heady dove]

It’s partly a newer visual trope. In older wuxia (the Jin Yong era), a young person with white hair usually meant something dramatic had happened, extreme trauma, forbidden cultivation, heartbreak, demonic possession, loss of control or overwhelming grief. White hair symbolized damage, sacrifice, or inner collapse. A young person suddenly turning white haired was meant to feel tragic and unsettling, not glamorous (for example, The Romance of the White Hair Maiden).

Today, modern audiences often read white hair as “cool” before “tragic.” Over the past 15–20 years, especially with the rise of Xianxia dramas, gaming aesthetics, anime influence, and CGI fantasy, white hair gradually shifted into a visual shorthand for transcendence, immense power, emotional detachment, or an otherworldly aura. The symbolism changed from “this person has suffered” to “this person is extraordinary”.

To summarize it all, a lot of it comes down to marketable aesthetics. Young white haired characters became visually iconic and easy to sell, they stand out immediately in posters, games, cosplay, and fan art. What once symbolized trauma or corruption gradually evolved into a stylized premium fantasy look.

[glacial dust]

Wow that is amazing information! it makes sense! 💯 Thanks!

I have seen White hair used for demons in other lores too so yeah i can see the same in Chinese lore

"What once symbolized trauma or corruption gradually evolved into a stylized premium fantasy look." ..

this is soo true

[heady dove]

I stopped watching or reading Wuxia or Xianxia after the 2000s. It’s changed quite a lot since then, and it now feels like a completely different genre to me, one I just can’t fully immerse myself in.

Basically, I’m old 😝

[glacial dust]

thats perfectly fine.. for me this whole genre is new.. i am noob with this genre

[lofty hinge]

Coming from broader fiction (I can't speak with any authority on wuxia or xianxia), white hair does still get used for trauma symbolism, but the audience itself will interpret it as a coolness upgrade even if they see the torment/loss that caused it. It can be meaningful but a lot of people seem to disregard that part.

[glossy cloak]

[glacial dust]

Yep thats true

[spiral cave]

Hey guys im new!

[glacial dust]

Hi new

[tawdry basin]

Welcome
I'm new as well

[harsh frigate]

Hi

[vivid rose]

Why can't I top up my Where Winds Meet account with money from my Steam account?

[glacial dust]

umm wrong channel

[orchid canopy]

Ya true that

[grave spruce]

Hi

[little oak]

hi

[shadow crag]

Heyyy

[shadow crag]

Hmm

[lethal spindle]

yo

[flint crow]

if anyone wants nitro or account cosmetics for lower lmk

[cedar hinge]

I was wondering if I could find enough Global players to recreate the 7 freaks of Jiangnan or better known in the east as the 7 Eccentrics for Roleplay purposes,Someone suggested that each leader of each sect to be used as models for this if anyone is interested in bringing one of the saddest most harrowing tales in the Wuxia world with me PM me please

[knotty plume]

Is qinchuan the final chapter?

[storm saffron]

More regions with more story will be released in the future

[pale sorrel]

Check if the region restricted

[iron canyon]

One thing is pure aesthetics, or symbolization of power like some of them mentioned (or even more unconventional reasons), but if it's on the characters, it's portraying a famous saying 一夜白发 (Hair turning white over a night). It usually means when one experienced heavy trauma/pressure that it was so bad until their hair turned white really fast(means becoming old as well)

[plain star]

final chapter of Hexi
not final chapter of the game

[glacial dust]

famous saying really reflects truth too... i have seen so many people that start early white hair growth.. and its all due to intense stress

yeah i think i can understand now the whole concept of white or light color hairs in lore

[tropic acorn]

hi

[umbral surge]

is Zhu Wen the guy with the fancy armor sitting on the chair while there is a servant stuttering on stage? in the first cutscene of Sunken City Lake

[iron canyon]

That's ZhuWen's adopted son Zhu YouLi, the quest would introduce him

[tardy swift]

So im learning about this Yuri story now with blind Cao Lady and im trying to figure out, if this past event has any meaning to our current player.

[royal plover]

Didnt it zhu youli

[iron canyon]

Just proceed to the end of hexi & you would realize qinchuan wrapped up everything, ym also developed a lot thanks to this dream, it made them see through themselves the papermoon story has a lot of depth as well

[tardy swift]

How do I get to that screen with artifacts, that shows the irl stuff

found it, and also thanks for explination!

[flint yacht]

is there more story after paper moon quest? or is it the latest

[tardy swift]

Yes and it's tying everything together only question is with all politics was current emperor around (fat zhaou) or no

[grim sequoia]

Qinchuan is the last expansion of Hexi (hopefully)

[flint yacht]

ohhh

what's it's quest name>? i can't find any quest after paper moon on the wiki

[grim sequoia]

The main quest for Hexi is over, as for the Lost Chapter quests...

Qinchuan quest is about the Painter guy

[flint yacht]

Qinchuan is not the part of main quest?

[grim sequoia]

The Hexi quest follows up from Qinghe while the actual main quest follows up from Kaifeng

[flint yacht]

now i am more confused 😭

[iron canyon]

hexi is a 3 part map, jade gate pass->liangzhou->qinchuan. The main quests are in different individual stories for each quest, so if you are asking about the continuation of Paper Moon, then nope, the story of the girls ends there. Qinchuan would feature different characters

[tardy swift]

I don't get who are these childern and old man and my guy drinking wine to hallucinate them

[flint yacht]

but qinchuan also has a main quest right?

different person's life?

how big is qinchuan quest then?

[iron canyon]

technically speaking, it ends at paper moon, but you can see qinchuan's main quest as "friends, to the end" since it threads all the other quests in qinchuan

[flint yacht]

does it conclude other stories of hexi? like whole veiled lady thing and all

[fervent parrot]

Can anyone tell me how to get the special effect , when we use the thundercry shield effect by pressing the q button. I seen some player have that effect.

[sinful compass]

[tardy swift]

So i noticed lot of artifacts from history are either in France or British museums is this from them raiding places and junk throughout history?

[wheat canopy]

Just started qinchuan's main story, is there a reason the moon shattered or will that be explained later in the story?

[wheat canopy]

There's a joke about the british museum I wanted to say but I'm afraid they took it too

[near oxide]

wow

[celest flume]

The moon means home
And when you arrived, it shattered, signaling that you're too late, and chang'an is already destroyed

[iron canyon]

#📖lore-chat message, the moon shattered means the "home" everyone was missing and also the hope towards peace and stability is long gone. The moon is a major theme of the game as well, and if you're interested the quoted msg is a brief summary of the moon's symbolization

[keen osprey]

hi

[junior elm]

Hello

[flint yacht]

Parallel to the heartbreaking sacrifice of the Burlap Sack is the story of the Anxi Army and their legendary commander, General Guo Xin.
A direct descendant of the famous general Guo Ziyi, Guo Xin was tasked with defending the Anxi Protectorate after it was completely cut off from the Tang court. Known as the Last Grand Protector, he guarded the Whitecrown Fortress with an army of loyal veterans. These men aged into their 50s and 60s, their hair turning silver as they stood watch in the desert, holding the line for an empire that would never send orders, and reinforcements that would never arrive.

is this correct?

[distant sage]

haha

[flint yacht]

can anyone explain me this and liangshu's melody quest stroy guyss

[late veldt]

hi

[fleet herald]

wild

[north trench]

So if my draw not lucky what i get with 1 dollar then

[placid sundial]

Nothing it's a weekly draw depends on the entry if 20 entry 2 battle pass will be given too 2 lucky.. it's as a lottery thing.. but you can get a chance to win BP for only 1$ risk per week

[north trench]

Gambling

Let's go gambling!!

Wait aren't this lore chat

[lofty hinge]

Yes this is lore chat

[unborn cedar]

Could someone recommend a site where I can get a summary of the lore? I have a vague idea of what it is but I don’t really get it lol

Huh I swear I got a ping

[ember tiger]

idk about site but i got all the lore from wwm girl on youtube

[short topaz]

A large number of exhibits in British and French museums were acquired during the colonial period. This is particularly true of British museums when it comes to Asia.
The East India Company, which operated as a militarised trade monopoly, played a significant role in this. The Opium Wars were especially impactful — the British essentially forced Burma and parts of China to purchase opium from them in exchange for silver and artefacts.
As for French museums, a significant portion of their collections from Africa and the Caribbean likely falls into the same category.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

[short topaz]

Yes, it’s true
But you need to mentioned that Guo Xin lived before history about two generals, he lived in times after rebellion of An Lushan.

[flint yacht]

ohh

[short topaz]

I can write it more detailed

[flint yacht]

okay

[karmic trench]

cant wait for the announcements on may 15th

[short topaz]

General Guo Xin from the game was a real historical figure. Following the An Lushan Rebellion, Tibetan forces seized the Hexi Corridor and completely cut off the Anxi Protectorate from the Tang court. Guo Xin held the defense for decades without reinforcements or orders — the fact that his soldiers’ hair turned white on watch is a matter of historical record, and stands as a testament to their loyalty. The emperor eventually reestablished contact and granted him the title of Grand Protector, but never sent any real aid. Guo Xin’s ultimate fate remains unknown — he simply vanishes from the chronicles after 808.
In the game, passing through the gates takes us 70–80 years forward into the Late Tang period. This is where we meet Zhang Yichao and Zhang Huaishen, who devoted their lives to reclaiming the Hexi Corridor. By that time, Lanzhou had changed hands multiple times between the Tang and the Tibetans — the city had known both occupation and destruction. Zhang Yichao launched an uprising against the Tibetan occupation in 848 and restored the region to Tang rule, but his nephew Zhang Huaishen was betrayed and killed by a relative in the 890s — just years before the final fall of the Tang dynasty in 907.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

[flint yacht]

what announcement

[flint yacht]

ok thanks

what's the reaction ?

[short topaz]

I just miss clicked

[flint yacht]

lol okay

i have seen the burlap sack and lianghzou melody, about to do paper moon. but how do i connect all these sepearate stories and also find a connection with our younge master?

[lofty hinge]

It will all come together at the conclusion. You may have noticed already the theme of longing for a home that is lost.

[flint yacht]

when 's the conclusion ? which quest

[lofty hinge]

"Friends, to the End" questline in Qinchuan will ultimately culminate in what I consider a satisfying and meaningful conclusion to this arc for the protagonist, and we get set up for what comes next.

[flint yacht]

ooh okay , that's cool

[lofty hinge]

Yeah I thought it was both visually and narratively well done, and I like what it does for the protag's character development.

[flint yacht]

can';t wait for the qinchuan part then

how big is it compared to other 3 chapters?

[grim kindle]

It felt kinda small compared to the rest but that’s because I was more engaged with the final chapter

[flint yacht]

ohh okay

[smoky solar]

the NPC xue chou, is he based on a celebrity of some sort in china? his face is really unique

[hollow mango]

his face is literally andy lau lol

[unreal rock]

why did murong yuan betray the mc?

shes the jinming boss

[celest flume]

Assassination
Please mark spoilers for that

[tardy swift]

I do not know what the moon grape farmers are realated too

[honest rain]

(heavy TLDR) MC basically stepped on her "nobody in main office imperial palace bothers to read schematics, so I can put whatever I want for my revenge plan in there" plan by y'know reading the ship schematic and being buddy-buddy with admin (Zhao Guangyi in this case, but both bros are MC's buddies). Next step was "whatever, might as well blow up the boat now and get the little menace before his mingling reveals anything to my boss"

[celest flume]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meow-silly-cat-cat-explode-yellow-cat-gif-12654556298327310612

[lofty hinge]

Spoilers for that quest: t's a story about ||avenging loved ones who were cruelly slaughtered by someone with power. Note the mirrored revenge sequences at the end, which tells us that the MC's rage and grief is still roiling around inside, just like Aynur. Also, of course, survivor's guilt.||

It felt to me that this was our first overt acknowledgement of these feelings still being present, as Kaifeng's political turmoil didn't give the protagonist any breathing room to do so.

[amber oar]

what is sleeping puppet poison do to one person?

[celest flume]

They turn them into a puppet
kinda like zombie

[amber oar]

oh and ||lo an|| was fighting it from turning into those thing?

[celest flume]

Who tf is lo an
you mean ||Lan Ao?||

[amber oar]

yeahh

[celest flume]

Mhm

[amber oar]

also when ||old painter said those tales were dreams (main quests)|| did those events actually happen?

[celest flume]

||Huajing at the end of the quest at the small hut where you start lord crimson carp campaign right||

[faint nexus]

Hii

[waxen badge]

wow

[royal plover]

What should i do here

[waxen badge]

walk across

the bridge maybe

winbd sense

[royal plover]

Why fang bai called lan ao qinniang?

Did this name for other npc

[tardy swift]

Depends on you, i see nice little teaspot

[waxen badge]

its different

[royal plover]

Didnt qiniang the little girl

[lean magnet]

Tbh is the sleeping puppet poison related to the undead army of the ghostlight market? Cuz there are some heavy similarities btw both of the effect

[lofty hinge]

Ghostlight guys consumed poison but you might have noticed it made them spectral, rather than zombie-like.

[royal plover]

How do i unlock gone with the wind?

[foggy tiger]

sleeping puppet zombies are zombies. ghostlight market are actual ghosts

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-ghosted-ghosting-ghosts-ghost-hunting-gif-11286733165591417609

[royal plover]

So gone with the wind and gently south wind arrive are same quest, the f with their translation