📖lore-chat

[jagged wren]

guys i bought the new white short hair with harmonic core but i didnt get the bonus free player avatar with it?

[feral ether]

I have a question, does anyone know who the shimmer of the south is?

[cerulean bluff]

Li Yu, the king of Southern Tang iirc

[feral ether]

oh I thought it was the guy from the intro

thank you

[wraith sigil]

Sir/Ma’am this is the lore channel

[slender jetty]

[amber cargo]

whats this?

[slender jetty]

i shouted then i died

[north trench]

Immortal girl are so white

Liangzhou story not finish yet

Also konghou just look like harp
(Instrument)

[ruby sierra]

do u guys know how i can equip a new avatar i just purchased from draw shop? for some reason its not showing up

[ruby sierra]

bro same

[lethal fog]

I think it wasn't supposed to be in the draw shop so soon, but at the reset, since the whole outfit will drop then. Which means, I think you'll get the avatar during the reset.

[thick anchor]

[novel panther]

I just finished the beginning of Ch 2 where they infiltrate the party (gathering of heroes) and the basin that creates money got stolen... and our MC gets accused of being the distraction while their partner steals the real thing. So I'm going to guess, is the kid in the mouse hat the one who stole the thing? Either that or the aristocrat still has the real deal.

Sorry if I'm using all the wrong terminology I didn't play it in English 😅

[honest rain]

Rq, which one are you calling the prince? The one in yellow/gold clothes (Ember of East)? Bc there's a prince in the scene, but I don't think they ever address him like that

Other than that, keep playing the reveal is not that far, won't want to spoil your fun 🫰

[novel panther]

Yeah sorry ember of east i googled it. Not Prince, but like young aristocrat. The term can't exactly be translated to English, no wonder they just call him Ember of the East and do away with the social title lol

[novel panther]

Ooh okay thanks for not spoiling. The struggle of wanting to know immediately though haha

[honest rain]

The term gongzi got translated as "mastermind" or "young master of [smth]" depending on context, but yeah, it's confusing

[novel panther]

Oh. Wow they really keep switching how it's called just to get around it 😅

[honest rain]

The struggle is real, but at least for MSQ you just have to keep yourself from spoiling the fun of the twists and turns of the story

[honest rain]

At least they didn't pull "esteemed gentleman" or anything of sorts (the bar is on the floor for eng-cn translation, ik)

[novel panther]

Ah I see I got confused too because it is possible to refer to princes as gongzi as well and I've seen that in other media, but rarer as it's preferred to call them huangzi instead

[honest rain]

All I'm going to tell, it's confusing on purpose

[novel panther]

Right. I cant access the game for the next little while so it is going to feel like a long wait! The story is surprisingly intriguing in this game

[honest rain]

You can probably check out the MSQ on YouTube, but it's just not the same😭

[novel panther]

Yeah, better to experience it firsthand instead 😆

[honest rain]

The game is cultivating everyone's patience

[mystic idol]

because typically, gongzi is a respectful term for a male of usually certain prestige

huangzi is the true title for a prince, but for most people (basically exception being those above them), its rude to call them by their title

[languid ember]

bro

can anyone elgit tell me who the hell i fix this blindness issue in light her way mission

all i see is blackness no object highlighted

[hybrid quiver]

lool

[royal plover]

What minatour represent for?

[lean magnet]

I just watch a video on Zhang Yichao and all I wish is that his body is at liangzhou there so he could finally come home. He did so much to show his loyalty to the tang empire but in the end, they just still distrusted him cuz of the An Lushan Rebellion

Like please tell me there is a tomb or memorial for him at there. I just want him to come back home. Not forever stay in a gilded cage

[mystic idol]

Unfortunately, he died in Chang’an.

But there’s an ancient mural painting in Dunhuang, which is the closest modern city to the Jade Gate Pass iirc

[lean magnet]

I know but just tell me his body was at liangzhou so at least he is at home

[mystic idol]

[lean magnet]

Damn you tang empire, you could have least give him some respect

[mystic idol]

yeah at its height it was oh so good, and as it was falling it failed in so many ways

[lean magnet]

Man an lushan really REALLY screw them over

[mystic idol]

it goes beyond an lushan

or rather, cracks were showing before the rebellion

those issues created the circumstances which allowed him to have ripe opportunity to carry out the rebellion, so its not like the fall is completely due to him

[lean magnet]

Actually wat was the cracks? I thought it’s was like similar circumstances to a very famous mustache man where Germany was getting so screwed over that it’s decided to enter its villain era and he was the trigger. If not someone else would have done it

[mystic idol]

eunuchs having too much power, they were able to have huge influence over appointments, which lead to political instability within the court

an lushan rebellion was also partly fueled by this kind of political rivalry, between an lushan and a chancellor

[lean magnet]

Damn eunuch rlly screw everyone

[iron canyon]

If tang gave him respect and acknowledged his achievements, yichao wouldn't have to sacrifice his brother, nor himself or his nephew. Tang was pretty screwed so it's natural for them to be traumatized with all these issues, especially when they were literally dying down. They can't bet on the good in people, bc if something else happened to them, they would be done for

[fleet wharf]

wukong

[grim sequoia]

As if they knew anything about the many lives in the dynasty

[little spruce]

eunuch screw over every dynasty
guess they don't like their d**ks cut off

[zenith pecan]

The whole story is corrupted...hard to say if it is false or bit of true at all....just imagine with historical names

[royal plover]

What is mutun representation here?

[weak shuttle]

I beat chapter 1 and I still have no idea what is happening in the story

[foggy tiger]

Uyghur probably

[glad stratus]

anyone knows what happen to Lian Daozi after that? is the story continuing in next map Qinchuan, like the connection of this story since jade gate pass?

[iron canyon]

his story ends there, qinchuan will have another story

[tame dawn]

Wait until the desert...

Seriously this quest design is outrageous, just present the story in cutscenes or shorter quests because nobody cares about that dream.

[weak shuttle]

The story is kind of interesting even if it's confusing

[tame dawn]

And I know it is a dream because someone told me ! I was in the middle of it just skipping everything.

[weak shuttle]

I liked Yi Dao

[tame dawn]

Nop it isn't and the wait it is presented is even worse

[weak shuttle]

Wdym

There's been a few dreamscapes in the game already in chapter 1

Qianye phase 2 was in a dream

[tame dawn]

Yes that's what happens when you deliver your content in a boring way

[glad stratus]

it's a peak dream, for chinese

[eternal widget]

The dream in hexi is representation of young master stage of grief. That's what youtuber said. And i think so too. The young master is still grieving after blissful retreat incident.

[honest rain]

You won't know it, because the reveal that it's a dream is not out on global yet. Some lore discussions are littered with spoilers from cn.version. The quest design imo is fitting for concept of MC being an observer of Hexi story, not participant [still, will be hit or miss for some players], but the decision to split it in 3 parts spaced out over spring is the most questionable here

When you were confused in previous locations it meant you needed to do more exploration and uncover the clues. With Hexi, it is confusing and you need to wait to get the full picture, which is extra frustrating and also clashes with previously set gameplay of "confused = go find out what you missed"

[iron canyon]

it's going to be very hard to give the full picture for now, so we can only help with the small stories in the condition of no spoilers, until qinchuan is released with the full bright & dark surge

[gritty orbit]

[north trench]

Can someone spoiler liangzhou story for me hehehe

Do immortal girl have name

[somber iris]

wsp

[iron canyon]

Nope, it's never revealed, the liangzhou melody's story is pretty much open ended in terms of the girl's identity

[north trench]

Oh

The mc dream hard

[tender sparrow]

Incorrect

[tender sparrow]

One popular but totally unconfirmed fan interpretation says the Liangzhou Melody actually traces the girl’s identity back to a disguised traveling qin master who was never meant to be found. In this version, every time the melody is played in different regions, it subtly reshapes memory in the listener’s mind, causing them to remember a different “girl” depending on where they first heard it. Some even claim the tune is less a story and more a coded map, and the missing identity is just a side effect of the song existing across multiple timelines, and unfortunately I’m obviously lying

[lean magnet]

God damn it

[honest rain]

So, the person states there's no in-game reveal and you say the statement is incorrect based on fan-theory? Thanks for at least mentioning that you're recounting a theory, but the bar is low

[languid yarrow]

Hello, could you please lend me your hand guys ?
where can I contact with the game support because I have an issue with its updates

[covert comet]

Yo guys,do u have a bug on the snowball plays encounter?

[alpine path]

The end of the message contains the answer

[iron canyon]

You're not wrong to be fair, like I said, it's open ended, some people think she was the pipa itself, some think she's actually lian daozi himself (an alternative personality/imaginary friend totally contrasting his own), since lian daozi has always been facing identity crisis, or like you said, the physical representation of the song, carrying the hope of those who wish to return to homeland. Some even analyzed that the pipa master they met in the tavern, is a pipa's physical representation, specifically the 狮子丸, one of the 3 pipas that Japan gifted. Legends say that the pipa was lost at sea (matching the story told by the pipa master). The compilation of songs at the end was also portraying how he finally understood his great grandfather's situation, and how home is actually defined. Since the game decided to leave it like that, it's totally free for the players to interpret it anyway, since some people also chose to think that the girl was real.

[plain plover]

Why is the story back and forth? I am so confused.

I understand that all those characters are heading to Chang'an but why?
Why do we jump on this story? Weren't we exploring Kaifeng?

[honest rain]

Filler arc to explore world, give context to some stuff and give MC some personal development time and introduce some characters before story gets back on track

[sinful quail]

iirc we are only in hexi because the strange lady we met promised to tell us more about heavens pier and aunt han, but in the end pushed us into the painting

[scarlet yarrow]

what ethnicity is aynur?

[crimson birch]

turkish, from what i heard aynur is pretty common turkish name

[scarlet yarrow]

and what's the song playing when she and mc went murder hobos?

sounds indian

[crimson birch]

prob have to wait for official soundtrack release to verify

[midnight sinew]

❤️

[royal plover]

I got so many cutscene skipped during my play, i wonder why some cutscene feel disconnected and when i check the cutscene on youtube, i relize this game chopped many scene in my play

[hardy harness]

Who is inside this massive coffin?

[hoary elk]

[winter furnace]

vampire

[sharp lily]

Story will continue... It's not over yet

[sharp lily]

Probably Uyghur

[uneven reef]

where u find this

[hardy harness]

Fishwood River Underground

Some tomb being guarded by some tomb raiders

It's a big coffin made me really curious who or what in it. The note just says it is the forbidden blight or something I can't remember.

[plush skiff]

I think that is where || Zhu Yu || is buried (?). Anyone could cmiiw, its been a while since I've done that dungeon

[hardy harness]

@uneven reef There is also another one guarded by creepy dolls. A red coffin, most likely a bride.

[crimson birch]

it's zhu yu from what I remember and verified with a friend @/ettyeternal

[hardy harness]

Who is Zhu Yu?

[crimson birch]

previous river master, wife of feng yi, mother of feng ruzhi and adoptive mother of zheng e and zhang cuo

[hardy harness]

I see. So it's only sealed with a scary warning to ward off tomb raiders?

[iron canyon]

It's an original song created by the game, it's sung in cn (hope I'm thinking of the same thing which is the folksong of the bitter draught quest)

[scarlet yarrow]

yep it's from bitter draught

[rapid estuary]

Hi everyone, I’m Summayya. I enjoy gaming in my free time, but my main focus is growth and building opportunities. Open to working with trustworthy people. DMs are open.

[little spruce]

LLMbot detected

[carmine ice]

that guy from The Mummy movie

[royal plover]

Where is fishwood river?

Anyway what the deal with dud inside coffin on the entrance of liangzhou?

[oblique stirrup]

Buff Blue lion boss wth

[viral shard]

Why is Hexi stories all sadge 😭

[lean magnet]

It’s was in a time where one of the golden age of china is falling apart and also wuxia

[fiery panther]

True 😭

[hardy harness]

🤣 🤣 🤣

[zinc barn]

i swear i saw this dude and he dissapear

[hardy harness]

of all places he chose to sleep there lol!

[zinc barn]

lmfao

[hardy harness]

You apparently need to celestial seize him too

[zinc barn]

Ooo

[sharp lily]

Which dude lol.. how can everyone be playing this game and I'm constantly missing stuff 😄

[hardy harness]

Kaifeng

[sharp lily]

It's on YT

[weak schooner]

I lowkey don’t understand what to do in the game,are we tryna like find the uncle something

[livid ginkgo]

Oh so we’re all the same level of confused till we hit lvl 51 it seems

I just figured out what I gotta do to grow in this game. It’s a lot. Amma be dreaming in my character running through china

[upbeat oar]

You are trying to find anyone from your family

[honest rain]

The main motivation of MC/YM/YW, whatever you wanna call them, it's that they're a 16yo who got separated from their family members and are now trying to look into any leads... but they're also a genuinely good person, so they will get sidetracked to help people (mostly in non-main story quests)

[torpid ember]

what would burlap sack say?? "awhhhahhuhhhh"

[finite pond]

yep, If you read the lore right

[royal plover]

When you first enter liangzhou from whitecrown fortress, you follow the road snd u find many coffin laying on tge ground

[rancid lake]

[river oriole]

[royal plover]

Every stone tablet in liangzhou tell about some princess, who is she?

[celest flume]

Moongazing maiden i think

[royal plover]

What her lore?

[celest flume]

Dk much

[royal plover]

Whos woman we use when we first enter hexi, the cutscene riding boat?

[pale sorrel]

[vagrant gale]

[north trench]

Blud have tv type subtitles

[royal plover]

Its yt

[north trench]

Oooo

I've been reading book of old the legend and the myths. Achilles and his gold, Hercules and his gift

[boreal hawk]

Princess from Zhang An. The same lady boss that you fight on the lake with lots of lightning

[timid halo]

whats up people

[north trench]

Whats up white skin

[timid halo]

man it sure is hot today

its not even summer yet

wait, is it?

[thick anchor]

Omggg

[trail trout]

Why did liangzhou fall

[void flax]

[iron canyon]

#📖lore-chat message you can refer here

[north sparrow]

[north kite]

[lean magnet]

Pretty sure it have to do with the fall of the tang empire

[ocean wedge]

Hmmm

[crystal swan]

may i ask what does call boat/open boat ticket mean?

This player has called in 174 boat events since 18 January 2026
Boat Name
霁淮鸾栖
Ends
in 28 minutes
Region
Global

something like this

[sharp lily]

The horse called "Er Ma".. the wine seller called "hao jiu" 😄

[plush umbra]

[scenic obsidian]

Cause the governor’s death leads to the Liangzhou captured by foreign adversaries.

[scenic obsidian]

It’s men actually, feminized version of LiBai（李白）, GOAT of Chinese poets.

[wet locust]

Why exactly did we fight murong yuan for the plans? Didnt she herself design those plans?

[scenic obsidian]

She need to use our hand to fake her death.

[scenic obsidian]

She embodies the archetype of the heqin
（和亲）
princesses-royal women sent throughout Chinese history to marry into northern nomadic tribes in the hope of securing peace through diplomatic
alliance.（已编辑）
In reality, most of these princesses did not end well. The game softens the tragic nature of the heqin tradition through a more poetic and romanticized portrayal-but if you pay attention, you'll notice that during the boss fight, she is actually crying the entire time.
The tradition of heqin (marriage alliances) in China lasted for over a thousand years. It began in the Han Dynasty, exemplified by Wang Zhaojun (c. 54-
19 BCE), who was sent to marry the Xiongnu. Later, during the Sui Dynasty, Princess Anyi (early 7th century) was married off to the Turks. In the Tang Dynasty, Princess Wencheng (married in 641 CE) was sent to Tibet.
In essence, heqin was a reluctant diplomatic strategy adopted by ruling governments when they were unable to fully defeat their rivals militarily-an act of concession framed as appeasement.

[sharp lily]

The coins would have been marked "Dali Yuanbao" - "Dali legal tender". He probably said "dali 15th year" because in his mind this is 15th year of dali, he would not have known the Tang dynasty collapsed last year because they were cut off. The term "dali 15th year" comes from documents found together with the coins that imply they were minted about one year after the dynasty fell.

[scenic obsidian]

Ancient China don’t use Common Era calendar

Ancient China did not use the Gregorian calendar system; instead, it used era names 年号(nianhao) to mark years.

In ancient China, years were not counted using a continuous numbering system like “2026.” Instead, each emperor would declare an era name (nianhao), and years were counted within that era.

So instead of saying “the year 1100,” people would say something like:

“the 2nd year of Xuanhe”（宣和二年）

Era names were not arbitrary—they were carefully chosen phrases that expressed the emperor’s political ideals, aspirations, or responses to events.

The meaning of “Xuanhe” is “proclaiming harmony.”

[lunar lotus]

[boreal hawk]

Similar to the one used by Japan emperor to declare a new era

[scenic obsidian]

Do you think where they got that from?

Both of Japan’s era names “Shōwa（昭和）” and “Heisei（平成）” were derived from classical Chinese texts.

[boreal hawk]

Yea i know.👍

[scenic obsidian]

“Shōwa comes from the Book of Documents《尚书》, and Heisei comes from the Records of the Grand Historian (and also the Book of Documents)《史记》. Both are rooted in classical Chinese political philosophy about harmony and order.”

[iron canyon]

She already decided to destroy the ship even before ym intervened, Ym is too good of a tool to be used to fake deaths

[scenic obsidian]

工具瓜

Toolmelon

[earnest cobalt]

[gloomy flame]

honk honk!

[elder marsh]

Genuinely love the humour in this game

[jolly scaffold]

what means hao jiu?

[winter furnace]

it means really horrible translation because you're missing all the puns and context

[pliant dune]

It means good wine

[sudden valley]

Wine 🍷🥂

[sharp lily]

If you do the quest in the lower part of liangzhou (it has a golden icon) you can switch back and forth 🙂

[sharp lily]

"hao jiu" means good wine 😄

[little spruce]

they should stop the stupid phonetic translation or assigning english names and do it literally instead. too much context is lost. most obvious one is changing Red Thread to "Ruby"

[sharp lily]

This.. they should keep all the original names

[elder marsh]

I agree!!

[sharp hull]

[foggy tiger]

It doesn't work like that

The Chinese name is phonetically similar to good wine

But it's not the actual words good wine

U want something similar in english it will be some rubbish like gud whine

[sharp lily]

yes because he doesn't actually sell good wine, he sells fake wine lol 🙂 that's the joke

[dawn rose]

fake wine still make drunk

[foggy tiger]

Pity we can't buy parting tear to drink

Sure blissful not having any more but the village still produce wine

Should have some for drinking

[royal plover]

Should i clear everything in jiquan before do Governor campaign?

[queen sentinel]

[iron canyon]

It's honestly up to you, but if you want to know more about the governor, you can do the blade awaits & glue to glory encounters

[royal plover]

Are pocketrope boss and qingqing same person?

[tawny lagoon]

[royal plover]

Why in paper moon quest zhuge ha talk like qingqing already dead?

[grim sequoia]

You meet those NPCs in full form in Liangzhou, Zhuge Ha is the leader of the Pocketrope Circus

If you're gonna ask stupid questions again, at least read the story enough to know what's going on

[royal plover]

I wont ask if im understand the story, mute this server it bother u,

U never show up on this server before, why bother now

[small cloud]

Dawg ima be fr with you

What the hell happened in the ending of Paper Moon

[iron canyon]

There's an encounter about the circus if you want to know more about qingqing & the group

[royal plover]

Already do that encounter, and thus qingqing still alive here, but when in paper moon quest when we play as an liuli and talking with zhuge ha, zhuge ha says "if qingqing still here" something like that, like he already dead

[iron canyon]

The day of Guanyin's marriage was the same day of Huaishen's death. Liuli replaced guanyin's place because she wanted to fulfill her promise to guanyin, that she will bring guanyin the freedom she had wished for her entire life, her sacrifice truly broke Guanyin free from the invisible shackles (her family & political marriage).

[royal plover]

I wondering too 🤷

[royal plover]

Im confuse who blinding guanyin, is her grandmother?

[royal plover]

Ppl said an liuli is dead, but we saw her reach the moon, i dunno which one true

[iron canyon]

It's just comparing qingqing's personality to hers, that qingqing won't do reckless things/knows what he is doing exactly, and if anything happened to him, he won't regret. Liuli was different, she was set to help guanyin who was a noblewoman, when liuli herself is only a performer.

[small cloud]

Interestin

[iron canyon]

Guanyin went to attend a banquet at the Zhang manor (Huaishen's residence), but also there's another saying that guanyin intended to leave with liuli that day (since liuli and zhuge ha was waiting around the area, I think attending the banquet was a reason guanyin gave to leave), she was blinded by the assassins, a lot of the participants of the banquet at the zhang manor was wounded as well

iirc, those assassins were targetting huaishen, but huaishen managed to kill all of them (you can eavesdrop the ladies talking at cao manor for this info)

[iron canyon]

It's safe to say that she's dead, not much people survived from that incident, the ending when she ran towards the moon is mirroring her promise to guanyin, that she will turn into moonlight and lead guanyin's path. Ever since the start it was already hinted, from her promise, to the charm she taught guanyin & asked guanyin to think about her whenever guanyin recites the charm. She was destined to help Guanyin break free from the cage.

[royal plover]

The attack so clean, it even not showing that the assassin reach guanyin sedan, so i though she already blinded before the attack

[royal plover]

Why guanyin mother save liuli?.

And what just happen to guanyin, is she reach changan?

[mystic idol]

because the grandmother is not evil nor bad

shes just a product of her times and the traditions they had

[crimson birch]

lowk reminds me of enchanto mama head (the head of the family) in a way

[mystic idol]

whos enchanto mama head 😮

[crimson birch]

https://tenor.com/view/abuela-encanto-encanto-alma-encanto-abuela-alma-madrigal-gif-24355917

her

[mystic idol]

ohh

yeah kind of same vibes

[royal plover]

Anyone pick guanyin book on pavilion? They say an liuli dead explain on it, but after reading i dont find any clue

And there signpost say that guanyin and an liuli reincarnated as kids at harvested village

[spiral escarp]

correct me if im wrong but

mc gets stronger as we prog through the story and defeat world bosses and such

especially their footwork

Would the mc lose against yi dao in their current state?

[mystic idol]

debatable, keep in mind yi dao was also already seriously injured when we met him

[spiral escarp]

ah

Still, I would say we're definitely more agile than yi dao

[sand summit]

🔥

[mystic idol]

in typical power rankings people might suggest at first glance that yi dao is weaker than qianye

but yi dao had been running for days before that

while previously also was carrying chu qingchuan

[spiral escarp]

Yeah Yi Dao was one foot in the grave already while fighting her

[mystic idol]

yup

[spiral escarp]

He was also busy protecting us

plus qianye is a bush camper

sent out like a thousand people before fighting him herself

[mystic idol]

Most likely, his fighting style is prob more focused on strength (but not to suggest he isn’t quick)

but judging from what we see from jiang yan in opening fight

[spiral escarp]

definitely

[mystic idol]

nameless sword in general is more emphasized on speed

[spiral escarp]

Unfortunately it does have gaps

probably because mc hasn't mastered it yet

I don't think mc would honestly beat half the people they do if they actually wanted to kill them

Like Tian Ying is a good example

Correct me if I'm wrong ofc

[mystic idol]

yeah no i agree

[spiral escarp]

Mc needs to start lifting

[crimson birch]

tian ying deliberately hold back cause he recognizes jiang's swords style on YM i'm scared of what would happen to YM if he did not use that swords style

[mystic idol]

of those we fought, the only ones who fought with intent to kill so far is just really Lord Shi

[spiral escarp]

Mc is also NOT wise, regularly trusting shady individuals and getting poisoned/knocked out

[crimson birch]

tried to drain the energy and strength before she goes for the strike tactic ahh

[spiral escarp]

speaking of which, compared to yi dao, mc does not have resistance to certain ailments

[spiral escarp]

ong

[spiral escarp]

yeah

[crimson birch]

definitely not, he's a fledging, but glad ppl like ying ying and zhao brothers are there to kinda guide him ngl

[spiral escarp]

yikes

[cerulean bluff]

MC is nepo baby 😄
either through the mention of Han Xiangxun's name, or important figures seeing Uncle Jiang's swordstyle on them; had helped the MC in critical moments

[crimson birch]

story over, you died.

[mystic idol]

makes sense though, since MC is just 16 and have little time in jianghu

[spiral escarp]

100%

[mystic idol]

it would be too much of a trope if they became op quickly

[spiral escarp]

That's true

[cerulean bluff]

i'm enjoying the growth

[crimson birch]

exactly, tho i do want to see them grow slowly (and they are) but guess in a way this is how their aunt han and uncle jiang is protecting them

[cerulean bluff]

mhm

[spiral escarp]

Mc is weaker, but not weak per say. Not many people have their reaction time nor agility. Case and point: fire arrows when fighting the lady with the long sword and fire bird

[crimson birch]

can feel a bit frustrating on the choices YM make but then again they're are freshly out of home, and a child in an adult body with martial arts (got almost human trafficed, almost got poisoned, several near death experiences)

[spiral escarp]

What mc needs right now is the right mindset

they're honestly just not fighting with their life on the line

Not enough ferocity in their strikes

[crimson birch]

about to see that development with qianye soon

[spiral escarp]

hopefully

[mystic idol]

to be fair i don't think MC is fighting with intention to kill in most of the fights either except lord shi

[spiral escarp]

That's true, but that's also a weakness

not everyone will go easy on them

[mystic idol]

in many of the fights, they're likely just looking to "beat" them/stop them (Murong Yuan, Zheng E, etc)

[crimson birch]

in a ruthless world like jianghu true, but i guess their kindness in a way is an advantage as well as a weak point. but they also had different intent to fight

[mystic idol]

its not at the moment but its for MC its like

[spiral escarp]

Yi Dao shoulda taught the mc a few moves

[mystic idol]

theres a certain category of people who from MC perspective deserves to die

[spiral escarp]

I see

[crimson birch]

e.g. ||qianye ||as prominent example

[mystic idol]

yeah this is the big one

you'll see it in ch4

[spiral escarp]

qianye is a bush camper who goes after children and weakened foes

[crimson birch]

happy to see lil melon go haywire

[mystic idol]

also in imperial palace, they'll show that MC did learn some moves from yidao

but its a more subtle detail and not explicitly mentioned

[spiral escarp]

nice

mc did inherit the blade tho

world boss

yi dao just pops by and throws ash at her

and we unlock the sword appearance

unless we don't count that as canon?

[crimson birch]

feels like in a way it can be canon cause feels like it's a dream YM had trying to deal with the grief of the loss of blissful retreat but yi dao's sword triggered that memory in them, they passed out, dreamt yi dao said goodbye to them plus memories of old blissful retreat and acquired the sword

[spiral escarp]

I mean, could be. Mc is schizophrenic lwk

dreamt whole memories from a fish scroll

in hexi

[crimson birch]

their resonance with the world to see past of the world through the lens of peoples (e.g. Zhu Yu, Zhang Yi Chao's master, etc.) might have also added to it ngl

[crimson birch]

this might be the 'power' they have with how they can sync with the 'sounds' of the world

[spiral escarp]

oh yeah, good mention

apparently wind sense is a unique talent?

unique as in, it's more heightened?

[lunar lotus]

[spiral escarp]

Because in one quest I forgot which, someone asks the mc about any special methods to do something I forgot (sorry)

mc mentions that they have really good hearing

[crimson birch]

wind sense is unique in a way not many people know it (master wuhen boat quest, where the thief mentions it's a rare skill) but not as deep as YM's skill to see the past imo. it only allows the present hidden clues in a way and what I understand

[crimson birch]

the mirage boat quest?

[spiral escarp]

forgor

[spiral escarp]

I see I see

[spiral escarp]

oh yeah maybe

He says that that hearing is quite the problem

Oh yeah, question

what happens when someone loses limbs in the jianghu?

no way to reattach them?

martial arts that help regenerate/reattach?

[crimson birch]

the setting of the story a bit more set in wuxia so reattachment is not out of scope but very rare, however mohist members might help get them a machinery limb or hollow vale might find a semi working but risky/costy way

[honest rain]

I feel like it is here when we ask what is part of MC's power and what is gameplay decision... like no way the MC just got dropped (in 12 years years of feud) into literal events of 12 years ago, but also if the devs showed it as cutscene instead of "dungeon" it would be much more boring gameplay-wise, and same applies to the other examples. Did MC in some way experience the content? Yeah. Did MC literaly walk around influencing things? Probably not

[spiral escarp]

wdym by hollow vale

what would they do?

[crimson birch]

hollow vale is like the cousin sect of Sliver Needle where if SN is the ethical, kind, and helpful doctors, Hollow Vale is more like the experiemtal, sudicial, taboo medicine practitioners

[spiral escarp]

ah i see

What about aging? In wuxia people do talk about immortals

and we gain solo levels named after such things

"beyond mortal"

[honest rain]

If Silver Needle is Medical Practice, Hollow Vale is the insane people in Medical Research

[spiral escarp]

and we also increase our vitality+endurance

[crimson birch]

aging is pretty normal however for some individuals that try to achieve immortality as a goal, they will get the same status as 'immortal'. for example li zuo the white hair emperor

[spiral escarp]

through various means

[spiral escarp]

Oh so it's possible?

[crimson birch]

vitality and endurance seems to be wuxia martial arts metrics from how I see it

[crimson birch]

yup li zuo semi achieved (or fully? not too sure) that

[spiral escarp]

well yes, but vitality in general is tied go overall health (not ingame)

[honest rain]

Based on some of Water Lady and Ferryman's content, jianghu wanderers are expected to age normally, unless they indulge in some shenanigans (facial editing like auntie, or bugs like Li Zuo, etc)

[spiral escarp]

Bet, I'll make MY mc try that
you all can be little mortals

[honest rain]

From what we saw so far, it has variety pack of side effects, so it is generally not recommended

[spiral escarp]

who cares if you're already 80 years old

you either die or you live forever

[honest rain]

Live forever in cranky 80yo body

[spiral escarp]

Wuxia, so old people can curb stomp

case and point: donkey master

[honest rain]

Doesn't stop their joints from creaking

[spiral escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/saul-goodman-gif-24305672

Mortality propaganda

[honest rain]

Strong but do you really want to be like that for rest of life

[spiral escarp]

i mean, it's between death and eternal life

[honest rain]

I support Li Zuo's thesis of getting it early/midway

[spiral escarp]

i mean, that works too

[crimson birch]

yup but some ppl want to live as long as they can even if body is crippling in a way so i won't be surprised if we get a quest/lore piece of someone like that

[spiral escarp]

yes, I'm people

[crimson birch]

understandable ngl

[spiral escarp]

turned into a vampire lord in Skyrim bc of that

eternal life hehehehaw

[honest rain]

I think people with chronic pain conditions can weigh in on that, but atp of discussion it is very much a personal preference if you can deal with it or not

[spiral escarp]

midway it is

[honest rain]

That would be interesting, ngl

[honest rain]

Funnily enough, he isn't even old old, he's like a bit older than Gu Le and Qiu Yuehai and the rest of 8 heroes gang

[spiral escarp]

oh lmao

[honest rain]

I mean, he is older than them, but not to the point that it is outside of humanly possible number

[mystic idol]

not might, but yes

[crimson birch]

i haven't verfied with the current up to date cn lore so didn't want to sound so sure when i don't know anything yet but thanks for your confirmation shui shu

[mystic idol]

we learn more about it later, coming very soon

[steep kraken]

[cerulean bluff]

i haven't started Hexi arc yet, but even in Kaifeng, it seems the hints are already given sparingly. in the Encounter quest around Masterwood Hamlet, the masked Murong Yuan mentioned she feels that MC can sense harmony or something along that line. which could also explain why they can learn martial arts simply by peeking

[crimson birch]

i am curious about how the jade will come into play with YM's skill of resonance

[cerulean bluff]

true true

[jovial lodge]

Could you tell me the encounter name

[still flower]

Hello guys, I’m an Asian player. I have some experience I want to share with you. It may not be suitable for this channel, which is about the problem of game crashing while loading at 90.10% during startup. I spent a lot of time finding the reason, and finally, I discovered it’s due to voltage drop on my CPU (I guess the poor quality of the CPU could not function at low voltage, which leads to game crashes). This issue commonly seems to occur with Intel 13th and 14th Gen CPUs. Then I tried updating the BIOS to solve the problem, because the updated BIOS provides stable voltage to my CPU. And it worked. I hope this sharing can help someone who has the same problem.

[cerulean bluff]

sorry, i checked and it isn't Encounter, it's Wandering Tales. i mistook it because of how deeper and longer it is compared to most of Wandering Tales. it's called [Lu and Mo Debate]

[topaz pilot]

do

[marble elbow]

Guys I can't defeat qianye

Lost 4 Times

Any tips?

[glossy nova]

Is that the boss in ch 1?

[marble elbow]

Yess

[marble elbow]

That witch

[glossy nova]

Are u playing in legend mode?

[glossy nova]

Got it

[marble elbow]

No recomended

Was 🤏 this close once😭

What r those skills for cloud step,tai chi, etc useless

[glossy nova]

Just loose once more and pay attention to the attack pattern or just spam deflect when u think she’s gonna attack also when she’s doing the charged attack hide behind like a wall

[glossy nova]

Yh they’re useless against boss

T’ai chi is lowkey only good for bears

[marble elbow]

Yhh I kinda got the attack pattern now I can see em coming

Well let's see I'll try again tmrw

[glossy nova]

Yh just try to deflect and when she’s not attacking spam the light charge attack

What lvl are u btw

[marble elbow]

I use infernal twin blade and the Strom somthing spear

Lvl 24&22

[marble elbow]

28

[deft quail]

game is locking me 😭

https://klipy.com/gifs/locked-up

[marble elbow]

??

👁️👁️

[glossy nova]

U can go jail

Just bribe ur way out

[deft quail]

heu yes its not about jail but some justice quest who give technique disapear

[glossy nova]

Use heng Blade if you’ve unlocked it

[marble elbow]

Wdym by lockin u(is it addictive?or)

[marble elbow]

I haven't

[glossy nova]

Just look up tutorial on yt

The umbrella is also pretty good

[marble elbow]

Aight bro thnx🤝

[deft quail]

ha no its about progression , some quest disapear idk why if dont take it quick when i see them , they disapear and i need token to make it after

[marble elbow]

I seee

I haven't noticed anything like tht so far

[glossy nova]

U can do them again by clicking menu - quest and there’s most of them there

Som of them are hidden tho I believe

[deft quail]

lol well I've been playing since the game came out and I just realized that, maybe I'm the dumb one lol

[marble elbow]

What lvl r u on bro

[deft quail]

yessss

Justice quest are not in menu quest

[glossy nova]

I’ve been playing for about a week and i think im about lvl 72-75

[deft quail]

they are in compendium

[glossy nova]

Justice ?

[marble elbow]

💀💀

[glossy nova]

Oh

[marble elbow]

I've been playin for 2 weeks or so

[glossy nova]

More like 9/10 days

[glossy nova]

it’s so easy to lvl up lol

[marble elbow]

I don't play often thou

[deft quail]

i play since the beginning ... and im ... lvl 83😭

[marble elbow]

Hmm

[glossy nova]

Cooked

[deft quail]

i slow run this game

[glossy nova]

How are u not lvl 90 gng

[vocal thorn]

Hello guys LFG doing Dao lord 2.3 and Avarice 2.3 talent

[glossy nova]

I speed run

[marble elbow]

Two typo gamers

[glossy nova]

Lol

[deft quail]

im sooo slow but there is toooo many thinks to do in this game

[marble elbow]

Reall

[glossy nova]

Ngl the Kaifeng main story by itself got me like 10 lvls I think

[glossy nova]

Fr bro I still don’t have the whole thing figured out

[marble elbow]

Kai feng requires lvl32

Ahhhhh gotta increase shi-

[glossy nova]

Idk I went there at like lvl 50+

[deft quail]

haaa and careful for the wolf girl

[marble elbow]

💀💀

[glossy nova]

Do all the main stuff in ch 1 and get to lvl 4 exploration then u can fly

[marble elbow]

I almost completed chap 1 without upgrading anything

[deft quail]

some player had problem with this quest after finishing the first chapter

[glossy nova]

Also do the oddities

[glossy nova]

How

I’m only 47%

[marble elbow]

Idk?

[glossy nova]

There’s way too much to do

And idek what more I need to do

[marble elbow]

Qinghe is chap 1 ryt?

[glossy nova]

Sentient beings and wandering paths I think

[glossy nova]

Yh

[deft quail]

there is a good website solution for oddityes

Game8

[marble elbow]

Tht boss fight is the last part of the qinghe ig

Main story*

[glossy nova]

Yh I use it sometimes but u can just collect them whilst doing a mission I got like 40 of them during the main quest in Kaifeng

[marble elbow]

So ig i skipped most of the side quests

[glossy nova]

Yh do lost chapters and collect as many bs as u can

So u can fly

It’s so fun

[marble elbow]

Ahh tht flying meteor skill?

[glossy nova]

Yh it’s like a diff version of it

[deft quail]

bro im always in kaifeng lol

[marble elbow]

Ohh I see let's see

Okayy guys bye

[deft quail]

omg shame on me

[glossy nova]

Hexi map is so weird ngl

I went to get the flute mystic skill

[deft quail]

bye bro

[deft quail]

ha , omg i need to try i see it in friends session but i need to continue story in my part

[glossy nova]

Yh do u know how to trigger main quest?

For hexi

[deft quail]

ha ? for hexi no i dont see it for now

but injustice quest make me crazy

yesterday i do one in kaifeng to unlock a mystical skill

[glossy nova]

Wtf is that

[deft quail]

there is some quest who spone in some area

[glossy nova]

One of my fav ones is the one where u can become very small

[glossy nova]

I just ignore them lol

[deft quail]

but you need to take it quick or it disapear from map

you can find them in compendium

[glossy nova]

Thx

[deft quail]

but some of this quest give mystical skill

ha i can't put the link here

but you know the website game8

[glossy nova]

U need to go to bamboo abort and to the eastern most part I believe

[deft quail]

they talk about it inside

[glossy nova]

I triggered it but didn’t complete it

[glossy nova]

Yh

[deft quail]

haaa ok

[glossy nova]

It’s good to track a bunch of stuff

[deft quail]

i think i see somethink on this

[glossy nova]

Wdym

[deft quail]

for the hexi trigger

[glossy nova]

Oh Alr

I did some of it to unlock the map

And to get flute of the tides but it’s kinda mid

[gloomy flame]

honk honk!

[royal plover]

Wwm girl said, that at the end guanyin live in changan and open snack shop and still waiting for an liuli until her old day, but where this information she got?

[serene ledge]

maybe she plays the chinese version, they are further ahead than us

way further ahead xd

[cloud rivet]

hi, what is bamboo from the bamboo tree in where winds meet used for? it says crafting but craft what?

[boreal hawk]

Yes for crafting

[proud summit]

Hey guys, is this normal?

[serene ledge]

yes

you cant post pictures until your discord lvl in here is higher

[proud summit]

I mean the color of my game has random distortion of colors

[serene ledge]

not normal no, we had someone in my guild with purple flames instead of normal ones

[proud summit]

Idk what to do

[serene ledge]

hm, check your graphic drivers, reinstall them or upgrade, check the game for broken data if you are on steam, right click the game, properties and there it is somewhere

[proud summit]

I mean, there are distortion, in some scenes

I see, I'll try that

I'm using my gaming phone though

[serene ledge]

wrong chat tough, you can check your graphic settings at Display, you can select the Visual style

ah

no idea on phone, but it should have Display and then the choosing of visual style too i think

[proud summit]

There is

But idk what to choose

I just started playing like literally 2 weeks

And this appeared from nowhere

[pastel mulch]

u

[royal plover]

What is hairgloom symbolic for in paper moon, at the end disguised liuli give guanying hairgloom to granny, and the granny shock, then when they obabout to fall from the cliff we saw granny wearing the hairgloom and liuli shock seeing that?

[harsh tide]

[long hound]

Use intense it makes it look much better

[torn tiger]

,

[crude roost]

[jolly oriole]

Is there a chart of timeline and connection of the hexi stories/lost chapters?

[iron canyon]

I really hope the expand the story on LiZuo, he is somehow said to have achieved immortality without the side effects we know so far

[royal plover]

He still sitting above buddha head statue waiting for the game update to his story

[iron canyon]

iirc, that was originally Guanyin's, liuli was probably surprised that granny was wearing it, which means granny most probably knew the girl inside wasn't guanyin but liuli instead

[royal plover]

Yeah, but how granny know the bride not guanyin, when liuli give granny hairgloom granny suddenly recognize she is not guanyin, but how? , i lost something here

[midnight kelp]

any clue about this?

[iron canyon]

It's not really that much here. The comb was originally given to guanyin by the abbess (which, guanyin refused to accept it and wanted abbess to take it away), it's still guanyin's possessions after all. If not worn, guanyin would have just left it a her package or at her room, but instead, LiuLi gave it back to granny. That's when granny knew the person in there wasn't guanyin anymore

Imo the comb probably symbolizes her family (Cao Family), the returning action means guanyin is set to break free from the cage, since Guanyin has always been the good kid, she never really resisted forcefully

[royal plover]

That make sense

Btw, lord liede(who gonna marrying guanyin) know there gonna be cout at zhang's and ask for faster bring the bride and take shortcut road even lord liede are nomad tribe which is outsider.

While the cout brought by zhang yichao son

[mossy stone]

Waz up

Why they do ruby like that

[iron canyon]

It's a coincidence, even if he knew something is going to happen to the zhangs, the shortest route would mean that they want to settle things as fast as possible to survive, because chaos is inevitable

[zenith pecan]

This reminds me ...he came he conquered and he died

[scenic obsidian]

That dude will not arrive China in about 2 hundred years from our current storyline in Kaifeng.

Less carbon emissions

Less climate change

Less global warming

Problem solved(God! Please! NO!)

[gloomy flame]

honk honk!

[trail trout]

Why liangzhou fall after the governor's death

[scenic obsidian]

For the sixth times, because Liangzhou were captured by foreign adversaries after that.

[sharp bough]

[glossy cloak]

😂

[balmy coral]

[jolly scaffold]

[surreal mantle]

[royal plover]

After snake quest, zhang yichao let down his ego then go to changan to be political hostage there and let his nephew zhang wuishen become liangzhou governor.

After 7 or 10 years zhang yichao passed away on changan, then death of governor happen, there cout orchestrated by zhang yichao son, killing zhang wuishen let to liangzou destroyed by tibetan

If im not wrong😅

But why yichao son going rogue 🤷?

[honest rain]

I'm for anything that'd stop messing with my numbers atp

[honest rain]

||devs couldn't stab each player personally, so they decided on other methods of inflicting suffering||

[zinc sorrel]

[lament vale]

[iron canyon]

there's a reason why yichao didn't want to pass the army down to huaiding (yichao's son), and passed it to huaishen (nephew) instead, he knew huaishen is the perfect candidate to continue his will. It's messy because huaiding his power hungry, and tried to work with huaiyue (huaishen's sister), but huiayue also has her own schemes , in which she wanted the army all to herself.

[frigid hollow]

[scenic obsidian]

The actual history is more complicated than that, but it’s fair to say the dev team were utilizing all the rooms in history to make a pretty good story.

So first Zhang Huai Song died around 50 years old.

The death of Zhang Huaishen was caused by his decision to send troops to follow Zhu Mei, the Military Governor (Jiedushi) of Jingnan, in supporting Li Yun as emperor.

This is one of the theories

[royal plover]

His ego bring liangzhou into ruin, did he working with tibetan?

Or tibetan attack liangzhou after huaiding become liangzou governor?

[iron canyon]

Yeah there has been a lot of discussions regarding this topic, and nothing is certain bc of the lack of records, the game did utilize the 3 explanations we have so far, inner conflicts, foreign adversaries & court side like you said

[scenic obsidian]

It’s the opposite, his willpower is holding Liangzhou together, after he died the whole things collapsed.

[royal plover]

I refer to his son, not yichao

[scenic obsidian]

Or in other words, the Liangzhou we saw at first is somehow a fake reality portraying a city that is in both harmony and peace, like a utopia in a region of warfare.

[scenic obsidian]

No, I don’t think so. Huaishen was doing his best.

The broken Liangzhou is the real picture.

[royal plover]

After governor dead, zhang huaiding become governor then tibetan attack liangzhou?

[scenic obsidian]

More complicated than that

First, his governorship didn’t get certified by the emperor

[iron canyon]

well, huaiding passed due to illness 2 years after he took over

[scenic obsidian]

Because the emperor doesn’t trust him

And worry about he became another ambitious warlord

Second, there are inner divisions in the governor’s force

Which we can see it from the quest

Last, the Tang government pretty much lost any possibility to reconnect Liangzhou with rest of the Chinese territory.

So the pressure is enormous

Zhang Huaishen was like Sisyphus pushing a boulder uphill—yet the course of history had already sealed the fate of the Tang dynasty. Liangzhou stood like an isolated island, surrounded on all sides by wolves ready to close in.

[frosty scarab]

[iron canyon]

in simple words, huaishen is basically facing all sorts of schemes, doubts, suspicions, you name it from multiple forces, he did his best, but one's power is limited

[scenic obsidian]

I am always using the metaphor of Game of Thrones to describe Hexi

The Dasan Pass is the wall

And Jade Gate Pass and Liangzhou were the territory captured by the white walkers.

And Zhang Huaishen is pretty much the Jon Snow.

Except he doesn’t have aura of main character.

[mint pivot]

Hello, please keep this channel for wwm lore-related only. And event with rewards will need to be approved by @opal dock first to be advertised in the server for safety reason. Thank you for your understanding.

[royal plover]

When paper moon happen are there already war inside changan?

Cz when a liuli inside the sedan, the carrier talking about "before there famous snack shop on changan name of an shop( liuli mother?), but now the market already ruin and there no an or li anymore"

Im confuse with the timeline

[scenic obsidian]

Let me walk you through

[royal plover]

We can assume papermoon, liangzhou melody, death of governor already 10 years after snake quest

[west drum]

How to start the starlit canvas event i havent done the main story quest

[scenic obsidian]

The Tang dynasty experienced two major internal upheavals.

The first was the An Lushan Rebellion. It originated from the rise of An Lushan, a powerful frontier military governor of mixed Sogdian and Turkic background. An Lushan gained the trust of the Tang court—especially under Emperor Xuanzong—and was granted control over several key frontier regions. Over time, he accumulated enormous military power and autonomy. In 755, he launched a rebellion, proclaiming himself emperor of a rival state. His forces quickly captured both Luoyang and Chang’an, forcing the Tang imperial court to flee the capital. The rebellion devastated Chang’an: the city was looted, depopulated, and its political and economic centrality was severely weakened. Although the Tang eventually suppressed the rebellion, it marked the beginning of the dynasty’s long decline.

So what An Liuli was talking about were referring to this incident

The An Lushan Rebellion was a major reason why Liangzhou became an isolated outpost, surrounded by powerful enemies on all sides.

The second major upheaval was the rebellion led by Zhu Wen in the late Tang period. Zhu Wen, originally a subordinate of the rebel leader Huang Chao, later defected to the Tang court and rose to prominence as a powerful warlord. However, he eventually turned against the dynasty, seized control of the imperial government, and in 907 forced the last Tang emperor to abdicate, formally ending the Tang dynasty and ushering in the era of division known as the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms period.

And Zhu Wen’s rebellion happened after our story in Liangzhou

[royal plover]

I Forget there an lushan, an lushan and an liuli have relate family?

[scenic obsidian]

Not really

They are both Chineselized Turks I believe

An is the a really common family name for Chineselized Turks

Like a lot of Muslims have the common last name of Ali

I am 90% sure both An Liu Li and An Lu Shan have Turks and Sogdian background.

I know is confusing.

[royal plover]

But liuli mother happen to be in changan and run snack shop is true? I remember hear it somewhere before, i forget its from liuli or zhuge ha dialogue

[scenic obsidian]

We can’t verify that.

But it’s pretty common for Chineselized turks to do business in Chang An

They brought a lot of Middle Eastern style gourmet into China

So it’s fair to say An Liu Li have a legitimate ground to make that claim.

But, no where we can verify

The game doesn’t have a map of Chang An

Otherwise I’ll go figure out what type of gourmet they sell.

[worthy vine]

[dusty plover]

[void vale]

[lean magnet]

Oh that took me a whole day to finish it. Otherwise they have good noodle. I hear from my mom that kinfe cut noodles is their specialty. I once remember there a street where they sell food and by god there was this rlly gud smelling mutton on a stick but can’t try it since at that time, I can’t eat spicy

[dry kestrel]

[gritty flame]

[tropic acorn]

[iron canyon]

To make things clearer for you here's the rough timeline, based on irl history, 867, YiChao went to chang'an, Huaishen's death was in 890 (same time as liangzhou melody & papermoon), so there's roughly 20+ years in between

[celest grail]

[rare mauve]

How does the headless general died? I don't understand when they said "The general died twice".

Also what's in the box? And what does it mean by General's sacrifice?

[willow cairn]

nice day

[iron canyon]

First time he died in the battle (Zhongdu bridge war), second time was his dream puppet state, where uncle jiang ended his life just before he lost his sanity, the box contains the flower/poison that will turn people into dream puppets

[scenic obsidian]

aka zombie

[cinder inlet]

history is great

[safe saffron]

[thick berry]

[finite hollow]

[scenic obsidian]

Wrong channel

[alpine path]

I am not sure if anyone answered it, but if you go to the pavilion where they used to hangout you can pick up the book where it will be described

This place

[royal plover]

Already read the book, and its really write there that m guanyin now live on changan?

Is that so how the book is on the pavillion while guanyin already in changan

[jolly quarry]

I think it's only for us that we know how the story end

[verbal summit]

@fickle robin
Alright, so conspiracy time.

Apparently, one of the wandering tales about the cursed buddha doll takes you to the same emissary that you can give the half-burned letter to.

If we give the cursed buddha doll to him, he angrily saying that basically goes "Yang has been bullied so much by the other 3 clans. What one cursed doll gonna do? They're not innocents nor they deserve buddha's protection"

I feel like the way he's saying sounds a bit personal, so I was kinda wondering if his real name is also Yang. This is supported by another wandering tale that I asked about earlier (eternal flames of karma) that one of the clues said, "this half-burned letter seems belong to Yang family. Maybe someone in nearby town named Yang knows about this?" . It feels like the clue indirectly implied that the emissary was also named Yang, at least before he joined aureate pavilion.

In eternal flames of karma wandering tale, if we give the half-burned letter to emissary instead of the granny, he recognized it as family letter to which the mc adressed, "how did you know it was a family letter?"

I have a suspicion that this emissary is/was Yang lai (also known as A'lai by his family) due to the fact that the half-burned letter swore vengeance to the mercyheart town and when we give the letter to him, he recognized it and when we pushed, he brushed it off. While it's true that according to his family A'lai died years ago, aureate pavilion is known for their experimentation towards immortality, so it's either he faked his death or he got revived somewhat and chose to get revenge for his family.

Him being A'lai also kinda makes sense since the beginning of buddha cursed doll wandering tale is said that Yang the youngest saw the emissary walking around the fallen buddha statue. At first, I thought emissary did the cursed doll stuff to stir division between villagers. But that contradicts with his response after we give the cursed doll to him.

Alright, that's a lot

[winter furnace]

[verbal summit]

Forgot to add that both the half-burned letter and the cursed doll have the same writings, which Yang family members recognized it as A'lai 's writing

[alpine path]

You can’t apply real life logic to a place that actually has timeskip happening during the map itself in general
So I think this is to get the information that is tied to a place and characters first of all
Upd. Looks like this is not a coincidence after all (see the discussion below)

[scenic obsidian]

Not at all

Chang An is have a chaotic period of time.

Remember I already posted that the Zhu Wen’s uprising is right after the Liangzhou Chapter

So Chang An is battlefield again

[verbal summit]

Also for lore people here, mercyheart town was pretty much controlled by aureate pavilion for quite some time and its direct south is blissful retreat. Why does aunt han have to wait until the first attack to finally order a move from blissful retreat?

[scenic obsidian]

Not exactly, the footman in mercyheart town using the same model as aureate pavilion

But it doesn’t imply the pavilion actually control the town

They are using the town as a field of experiment

We don’t know the exact reason why Aunt Han take any action to protect us.

[verbal summit]

As in, the devs just lazy to make a new design for different faction/enemy or we don't know if li zhuo or other aureate pavilion higher ups give orders to control the town?

[scenic obsidian]

I am feeling like there might be some division inside the pavilion

[alpine path]

The question was about this book (and it goes on longer)

[strange shale]

Where is the general chat ?

[scenic obsidian]

So this can’t not be Chang An at the storyline of Liangzhou

Because Chang An is a battlefield at that time

[alpine path]

The description means it is way after (based on the age described)

[scenic obsidian]

The description are talking about the golden age of Chang An

Which is probably half century prior

And the years after chapter of Liangzhou in Chang An is a chaotic period

[verbal summit]

Because I have a wild theory that the supposedly aureate members in mercyheart town actually act on their own while still benefitting towards aureate pavilion goals in the process by brainwashing villagers to plant datura flowers

So even if the higher up knows, they could just make an excuse

[scenic obsidian]

After around 890 CE, the city of Chang’an—once the glorious capital of the Tang dynasty—had effectively become a hollow shell. Although it still functioned as the nominal seat of the emperor, real power had shifted to regional warlords, and the central government had lost control. Repeated conflicts, especially following the Huang Chao Rebellion, devastated the city’s economy and population. In the 890s, rival military leaders such as Li Maozhen and Zhu Wen turned the capital into a battleground, even holding the emperor hostage. By 904, Zhu Wen forced Emperor Emperor Zhaozong of Tang to relocate the court to Luoyang and systematically dismantled Chang’an itself—demolishing its palaces and relocating its population. This marked a rare moment in history when a ruling power deliberately abandoned and destroyed its own capital. After the fall of the Tang dynasty in 907, Chang’an never regained its former status, and China’s political center shifted permanently eastward.

[verbal summit]

Interesting, tell me more, please

[alpine path]

It still refers to the same characters so might be an idealised dream that never came true

[scenic obsidian]

I think it’s a dream

[crimson birch]

#💬martial-pavilion

[brittle bloom]

[scenic obsidian]

After 890 CE, Chang’an witnessed a series of catastrophic tragedies that marked the violent end of the Tang capital. The city was repeatedly occupied and fought over by rival warlords, turning streets and palaces into battlefields. During the conflicts surrounding the Fengxiang Campaign (901–903), prolonged sieges devastated the Guanzhong region, causing severe famine—so extreme that historical records describe cases of cannibalism. The imperial court itself became a hostage, as Emperor Emperor Zhaozong of Tang was abducted and manipulated by competing factions. Civil administration collapsed, markets disappeared, and large portions of the population either fled or died. In 904, the warlord Zhu Wen forcibly relocated the entire court and remaining population to Luoyang, then ordered the dismantling of Chang’an—its palaces torn down and its infrastructure abandoned. What followed was not just decline, but the deliberate destruction of one of the greatest cities of the ancient world.

At this point, Chang’an looked very much like Sodom.

[scenic obsidian]

Sun Buqi and Li Zuo represent different factions within the pavilionand Mercy Heart Town was likely orchestrated by Sun Buqi.

[alpine path]

It probably checks out as the author is herself

[verbal summit]

Sun Buqi is still alive?

[scenic obsidian]

Sun Buqi was the one who released the poisoned water beneath the Gleaming Abyss.

[scenic obsidian]

Probably, the CN server gave us clue

[verbal summit]

Interesting, I thought he's dead. What clue is it?

[scenic obsidian]

I can’t tell you, it’s spoiler

[verbal summit]

Awwiiee..

[scenic obsidian]

Check the latest chapter on CN server

About Aunt Han

That’s all I can say

[verbal summit]

Hmm, the story so far has been good, so I'll wait until it gets released

[royal plover]

Who are "we" here?

Guanyin and....? Bc liuli already dead

[scenic obsidian]

It’s a spiritual way of saying you are always with me no matter what.

[verbal summit]

Speaking of, why does li zhuo wants to cooperate with sun buqi, the one that poisoned his lover? Or are they enemies trying to gain control on aureate pavilion?

[scenic obsidian]

Li Zuo lost his mind.

He is pretty much crazy

For anyone can help him go further on his plan, he is gonna do it.

Even sell us to Khitan

[verbal summit]

Due to the death of qingyi or he got poisoned?

[scenic obsidian]

Probably both

He wants to rebuild a new enteral Tang Dynasty

For any price

By any way

[verbal summit]

So probably the main villain is sun buqi, but it's kinda ironic that his dream is immortality for all

That he ended up experimenting people

[scenic obsidian]

A very good guess

Evil scientist and Frankenstein

What a classic duo

[lean magnet]

I mean sun buqi was able to find an method to immortality. It will be unwise not to take it up especially with that character of his

[scenic obsidian]

Basically every time Li Zuo appeared, I am feeling like the underlined sentence in the air is “Hi I am Li Zuo I am craaaaazy!”

[verbal summit]

The thing is, qingyi becomes immortal due to her unique body. That's why when sun buqi tried to replicate it to villagers, the failure rate is massive. So I thought qingyi was the only succesfull subject

[verbal summit]

I read it like dave from pvz TT

[alpine path]

It made me think actually why would he be so fixated on it while he never witnessed it in its prime at all. He was already born while it all was in hell

[scenic obsidian]

Very similar to Hitler

[royal plover]

Li zuo not working with buqi, sun buqi kidnap death half death qingyi put her on gleming abyss and experiment her and other ppl from village, li zuo track him to gleming abyss, but before li zuo meet sun buqi there, buqi already stop his evil experiment due to feel guilty, but he cant kill qingyi so he left her in gleming abyss, by the time li zuo reach that place buqi already gone

[lean magnet]

Oh crap forgot about that

[pure sonnet]

Where's aunt han at

[north trench]

How the lore doing

[mossy pumice]

0

[honest rain]

Running from two governments probably

[polar dragon]

[rocky scroll]

Running from EVERYONE.

[carmine ice]

In Kaifeng

[wintry cloak]

exactly

[jolly quarry]

am i the only one who thinks she is the veil lady before we enter hexi 😂

[honest rain]

Yes you are.

1. Hexi quest can be started during Ch1, while aunt Han is still actively present in Blissful retreat. She can do a lot, but being in two places at once isn't on her list of skills
2. MC might be naive, but they have much higher insight into the world than people around them. If anything, their adopted mom would know that a disguise won't be enough to mislead them
3. The Mysterious Lady is much younger than aunt Han (MC's age group, early 20s tops)
4. [spoilers from the other side cn.version]

[ebon plaza]

Could be anyone

[ebon ginkgo]

so many twist

[jolly quarry]

I don't get number 1 in kaifeng we searched for Aunt han? After kaifeng we went to hexi, why should she be in blissful retreat

[honest rain]

It was meta-before Hexi [release schedule is metagame information]. If you create new character rn, you'll see that Hexi quest is accessible earlier than Kaifeng, indicating that it is independent of Ch2 timeline

So if you played before Hexi update, you won't know the "flimsy" timeline of Ch3

[rigid totem]

Sooo

[jolly quarry]

Oha didn't know that

[autumn shuttle]

Doy

[forest anvil]

hmm

[verbal summit]

I doubt about the 2nd point since a lot of people have said that the person who attacked us at the start of the game was jiang yan, but mc didn't recognize him

[rare mauve]

Does He Ran not know that the general is already dead in Zhongdu Bridge War (I assume it's the war in North that he talked about)? Also where do you get to know about this, is it explained in archive or you just conclude it yourself? I kind of want to find out the truth by myself

[desert hinge]

;3

[honest rain]

Brief attack against long conversation + multiple tabletop games (but I can see your point, just imo not that close)

[mint pivot]

#📖lore-chat message Arda wrote an explanation for the related task earlier

[rare mauve]

Thank you

I still don't know how you guys know this much though XD

[honest rain]

In-game quests + Dark Surge entries + anecdotes (exploration points you get from NPC dialogs) + Compendium entries + Journal (character stories) + Wandering tales

[honest rain]

Don't forget to read cat compendium entries, each kitten has a paragraph or two about them

[harsh tide]

[mint pivot]

Just a reminder that the lore channels are for story-related discussions only. Posting unrelated messages or emojis to farm feathers disrupts the channel and will be considered spam under Rule 6. Please keep lore channels on-topic, feathers are best earned through meaningful participation in the right channels. Thank you

[lean magnet]

Wait what you mean farm feathers? I thought you could only do it in game

[iron canyon]

Yet all those immortality we have so far aren't true immortality, those who sayingly achieve this kind of longevity would ended up becoming soulless monsters, and can't be called human. That's why LiZuo got crazy, because one thing, he lived in hell for his entire life, the last straw was QingYi who grew up with him ended up in this state because of Sun BuQi, and died because of the pressure from the jianghu (the true reason is, QingYi didn't want to cause harm further, but part of it was bc of the pressure as well). QingYi warned him beforehand but this guy just snaps and says no, I'm going to create heaven from hell. Not to mention Sun BuQi is basically an irresponsible guy who just abandoned his researches (kaifeng's DtD & Gleaming Abyss), he's kinda similar to LiZuo in way but the only difference is Sun BuQi thew his kindness away since he stumbled upon immortality as an uncharted territory, and thought it would be interesting in pushing the limits

[iron canyon]

He gave his answer in Gleaming Abyss quest, his logical reasoning after discovering Sun BuQi's immortality research was that if there are no demands = no conflict -> peace & and a nation of pure kindness, so he brought the remaining records of Sun BuQi and established Aureate Pavilion

[iron canyon]

I think YM knew to a certain extend, I'm sure they knew the person didn't mean any harm, since he didn't actually fight YM with the intention to kill, and from how YM can still calmly tell the whole story to aunt han

[opal meteor]

[verbal summit]

Can anyone give some explanation of what's going on in gracetown 8 years ago? I remember a person called He (?) or Hong (?) betrayed gracetown and instead became the bandits. What triggered that betrayal, and how did it connect to what happened 12 years ago (when the bandits ravaged the zhengs?)

[alpine path]

Yes, I remember that, but it doesn’t answer my question tbh

[red pulsar]

According to the lore gamer gfs are real.

[carmine axle]

Mannn

I didn't expect ||Ruby|| to die like that

|| But it's really cool the game decided to off the stereotype where the child, ignores the elder and tries to act like the hero, and instead of the elder dying, from the child's stupidity it's the child that dies||

[carmine axle]

I know

one of my co workers has a crush on me.

though due to policy I can't have romance with them.

[red pulsar]

That's company policy doesn't apply to me 🙂

[verbal summit]

Honestly, I hope she stays dead. Since there was a theory that ruby technically didn't die since we don't see her in the dreamscape.

Not that I hate ruby, but I've played a game where a character is presumed dead only to be revive later as different person

It's a clichè which I saw many medias failed to portray it as a good thing to the plot

[carmine axle]

I agree

[iron canyon]

His upbringing & past plays a huge role here. He was assigned as a puppet emperor when he was only 13, and had to listen to Zhu Wen for everything, as the last emperor of tang, obviously the responsibility would be solely upon him, he feels the need to restore tang even though it's unsavable tbh, it became his obession + this guy is kind in nature, but all the pressure upon him just made him snap (his kindness became twisted). We have a short story about him w LiZuo & Wang Qing in qinchuan which you could see the change in his mindset

[verbal summit]

What short story?

[plain star]

||Ruby's|| death is a huge and important point in YM's character developement.
I would be so cheap if everyone just fake their death and comeback like nothing.

[verbal summit]

Also, anyone?

[iron canyon]

I can't say much, because that would be spoilers, it's a quest in qinchuan

[verbal summit]

I see

[lean magnet]

There smth I want to ask abt Li zuo age cuz isn’t he supposed to be an old man but somehow was able to look like a young man with white hair when in uncle Jiang introduction. Do you think it’s might somehow be smth related to the immortality or game being game

[mint pivot]

It’s a discord event by official team https://discord.com/channels/1180042348755963924/1458720049220292640

[verbal summit]

Both

Technically it's likely the first, but you got a quest later on when you met some masters that's 80+ and look like in his 20+

[iron canyon]

Basically: Zheng E saved the poor shen yilun & gave him food, due to the chaos, shen yiren (shenyilun's brother) with the he guy you mentioned & xieyuanting decided to ravaged the zhengs by holding shenyilun captive. The survivors had to find somewhere else to live, while the farmland was givn to the bandits by the court (gracetown). That's why zheng e held a grudge against them

[verbal summit]

Just wuxia genre being wuxia genre

[lean magnet]

Ya might be that cuz I just remember that. Might explain why ym can look like a old man and still be 16 y/o

[iron canyon]

It was said that LiZuo acheived immortality, but we never know how, since he's supposed to be in this 70s now

[plain star]

You should play the lost chapter 12 years of feud (Sorrowfield village) and Zheng E campaign. It will explain that story.

[lean magnet]

Wait when did it say that? I been forgetting about the early part of the game

[verbal summit]

That's what happened 12 years ago, but then there's a rift between He and presumably xie to the point that He got kicked out from gracetown 8 years ago. Do you know something about that?

[verbal summit]

Done that, unfortunately, I'm a man with terrible memory

[carmine axle]

Okay Killer Blade has become my favorite character

[night raptor]

🤗

[carmine axle]

I gotta say the cutscene had me on my seat.

[iron canyon]

It was a theory from players from how he had done all sorts of weird stuff, and since he got his hands on Sun BuQi's research, he had plenty of time, but nothing is certain

[lean magnet]

|| God they should put more of him in game ||

[rare crane]

okay

[lean magnet]

Ya I mean that make sense but wouldn’t it’s mean he would have contract sun buqi if order to prefect it to the point of not needing a special body like his gf

[iron canyon]

Xieyuanting was in debt with the zhengs, so during the ravage, he helped neither side and just sat aside and watch. He did try to save things by giving back part of the land to the zhengs, but the zhengs obviously won't accept such cheap apology

[lean magnet]

Like it would be weird story wise to not have they Ben connected in some way of form

[iron canyon]

That's the mystery we are waiting for confirmation, because not even qingyi who has a special body can escape from the side effects, but somehow he was able to keep his sanity (even though it's twisted)

[carmine axle]

Quinyan was my favorite boss fight hands down

[verbal summit]

And I assumed He didn't like the way xie acts so xie kicked him out?

[iron canyon]

sunbuqi pretty much left all his stuff unattendend, with the immortal parasite & his notes, with his experiments conducted in his aureate pavilion, honestly it's not impossible

[iron canyon]

yep, the two had inner conflict

[verbal summit]

I see, thanks for the explanation

[alpine path]

I look forward to it as I find his story quite intriguing still. I do agree he came from the place of good intentions. Interesting that Qingyi I think kinda saw the truth behind it all hence her choice, while he couldn’t. But he is a bit dense in general, given how he could not grasp the meaning behind her repeating his name over and over to overcome pain for instance.

[sharp lily]

||you can even visit her grave, it's on the hill above Flower Expanse..Yi Dao's also||

[verbal summit]

Okay, another question. Is there someone named Dou involved?

There're 2 npcs in southern suburb of kaifeng which you can eavesdrop to (surname He and Dou) and the man with surname He said, "We all know what happened 12 years ago and what your cousin did 8 years back"

[verbal summit]

Do we know qingyi's cause of death? If suicide, why, knowing well that li zhuo is just one snap away from becoming insane

[orchid urchin]

just finished liangzhou and the stories are really interesting

[solar lintel]

we love liangzhou !

[iron canyon]

QingYi who endured the pain & also went out to cure those who were affected by SunBuQi knew too well the price of immortality, she never cried nor tried to escape, LiZuo was her emotional support for all this time (and vice versa). Yet for LiZuo who had his own wishes, that started from a good point, losing QingYi was his last straw bc QingYi was the only one who accompanied him all this time from his high and lows. Also, restoring Tang to its peak (or rather, hoping for peace to the nation/establishing a nation of pure kindness), wang QingYi & LiZuo's promise & dreams.

[lyric moon]

hello

[iron canyon]

I can't really remember about the dou person so, the main culprits back then were shenyiren, xieyuanting & heyuechi(?

[iron canyon]

She suicided under the pressure of the jianghu & to atone for the harm she caused when she wasn't sane

[plain star]

||Zheng E and Shen Yilun (the master of grain in granary campaign) are best friends when they were a child in Gracetown. Zheng family is rich while Shen is poor. Zheng family decided to give their grain to the poor villagers. Shen Yiren is Shen Yilun's brother, he is a ran away soldier, later joined the bandits. Seeing the richness of the Zhengs, Shen Yiren and the bandits robbed the village and killed the entire Zheng family. Zheng E is the only one survived because he was saved by Zhu Yu (the former River Master). In 12 years of feud quest we were in Zhu Yu's pov.
The survivor of Gracetown later moved to Sorrowfield village.||

[carmine axle]

You think those blue haired girls will love me now, that I resurrected into a Horse?

[royal plover]

Aurete is name of qingyi favorite dance, later use by li zuo to name his crime group

[eager urchin]

wow

[vernal knoll]

helo

[hoary spruce]

story is right, but I think it's the other way around, Shen Yilun was the original master of grain. Zheng E was the one who took over that we turned a "good guy"

[bold basin]

good morning

[royal plover]

Why ppl keep spaming emote?

[bold basin]

where

[plain star]

that's what I said, Shen Yilun is the master of grain.
Zheng E captured him and impersonated him (with the help of ||Aunt Han||).

[nocturne umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-doakes-meme-doakes-suspicious-gif-7434634924845802139

well umm what will happen to my unfinished quest in liaghzhao town after it got destroyed

[plain star]

do the lost chapter bitter draugh or sth (I forgot the name) and interact with the golden cup, you can freely switch back and front.

[nocturne umbra]

ohh woah thanks

you're the goat

https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-squid-game-2-cheers-happy-excited-gif-13406404385856133045

[flint sand]

Halo evrenyan

[nocturne umbra]

[scenic obsidian]

I am pretty sure dev team is not the villain

There are someone else are the villains

[celest flume]

scriptwriters ofc

[scenic obsidian]

Not them either.

[verbal summit]

The pressure of jianghu?

[magic tendon]

lmao

[deft dagger]

the last time i played max level was 60 how far am i? i am returning

[sharp lily]

it's 90 now

[deft dagger]

wow

high ping issues in some regions resolved?

[mystic idol]

if you live far away from server nothing will resolve distance

[iron canyon]

because a lot of people were seeking for immortality (without knowing the true consequences), and during the experiments, she unwillingly caused harm to other people as well, that's the reason LiZuo used to convince himself about the death of QingYi, despite it was something she wanted

[mystic idol]

but you can use gfn to turn your high ping into input delay ping which is more playable

[deft dagger]

yeah

ig i have to stick to singleplayer for now

[mystic idol]

Where do you live if you don’t mind me asking? And what’s the server? Is it like aus -> sea/aus server?

[sharp lily]

Aynur has heterochromia 🙂

[grizzled osprey]

They removed the mobile chat channel?

[runic vessel]

Don't see it too

[grizzled osprey]

Wow

[grizzled osprey]

They really did removed it

[runic vessel]

[grizzled osprey]

?

[scenic obsidian]

I am feeling like this is an unnecessary removal. This channel should be back, it’s a terrible decision.

Effort puts on the wrong stuff

[grizzled osprey]

There is a lot of stuff that need to be fixed especially for the mobile version of the game

[scenic obsidian]

Totally agree

[grizzled osprey]

First the ping

[scenic obsidian]

I feel like the game’s operations team has been charging full speed in the wrong direction. They don’t seem to understand the player cultures in different regions very well, and language barriers have led them to make a lot of poor decisions. As a result, it feels like the number of players still sticking with the game is steadily shrinking.

[grizzled osprey]

Yeah

I might delete it too

Greedy devs

Only thinking about selling outfit

[scenic obsidian]

Issues with the game’s storyline and lore can still be fixed later on, but choosing the wrong people to handle game operations is something you can’t really recover from.

[verbal summit]

No no

First is making legend difficulty available on mobile

[grizzled osprey]

That's true also the cross server ping in arena and the forest it definitely needs fixing

[silver birch]

Hello, i wanna post my dualblade test against dummy target see what other players think of it, n i dont know which thread i should use, can anyone point me at the right direction ? 🥺

[verbal summit]

What the heck is this discrimination

[grizzled osprey]

Yeah bro ik the pain , them be please play on pc for better experience, bruh wuwa has great graphics, enfield has great graphics they don't tell mobile player to hope on pc instead

[verbal summit]

Honestly, I don't have much hope for wuwa either

[grizzled osprey]

The devs listen it's the size that's the problem

[verbal summit]

The optimization in 3.0 has been really bad and the storage optimization only comes recently

[scenic obsidian]

Media

[grizzled osprey]

Ig It's time to quit wwm

Lazy ahh game

[verbal summit]

I can play rina at 30 (45?) fps just fine. Anything past 24 fps in lahai-roi cooked my poor phone

[grizzled osprey]

Cooler is a game changer

[verbal summit]

True, why don't I think about that

[grizzled osprey]

This game might die soon

[verbal summit]

I think my problem is moreso on legend difficulty not available on mobile. What prompt the devs to locked it behind pc? If we play wuwa, you can still beat toa with quickswap shenanigans while being on mobile. Sure, qs is easier on pc than on mobile. But so does legend difficulty

[honest rain]

I think with Legend difficulty devs are pandering to soulslike-crowd and so-called Elite Gamers™️ Don't Play on Inferior Tech. Listening to that elitist crowd instead of, yk, looking around the room or listening to your players is a major🚩

[grizzled osprey]

I played harder games than wwm , I can play legend difficulty on mobile

[tropic acorn]

[lament vale]

[pure elm]

like what kind of games?

[fiery panther]

Like dark souls?

[grave lantern]

Byeeee leave the server too

[winter furnace]

only steam players cry about dead game on every game

[grim sequoia]

I noticed they updated Wang Qing's face in the flashback to when he was young

At least in CN though

[sharp lily]

The quality/size ratio of wuwa is pretty bad, and the translation is genuinely terrible lol. Also story has no feels 🫤

[grim sequoia]

Considering trailers can be inconsistent with in-game

[grizzled osprey]

I didn't know 💀

[honest rain]

I think arena PV with him also changes, but I'm not sure what the trigger is

[grim sequoia]

Steam is one of the most used client for PC gaming

[sharp lily]

After wwm it's hard to play those games, I mean for what are you wandering about aimlessly lol

[grizzled osprey]

What games ?
Gacha games?

[sharp lily]

Games like Genshin and Wuwa and Enfield

[grizzled osprey]

Those games aren't hard

Are they?

[grim sequoia]

I started to gravitate very heavily towards realistic artstyle than those mainstream anime style stuff

[alpine path]

A kind reminder this is lore discussion channel
Not #💬martial-pavilion or #💬off-topic or #🌱beginner-questions

[grizzled osprey]

Give back mobile chat channel

[grim sequoia]

Yeah, I just remembered there was an NPC with the same set of hair and armour as Wang Qing

[mellow horizon]

Please use #1435338461925081220

[sharp lily]

Continued on #💬off-topic

[lean magnet]

Damn they yassifed him

[grim sequoia]

According to baidu, Wang Qing was 53 when he died

[crimson birch]

so if we try to calculate how old he was when he met jiang yan and adopted he would be around 43-42 (assuming he met jiang yan when jiang yan was 8-10) tho the new face looks quite young

[brazen inlet]

.

[crimson birch]

it's oddly clean?

[grim sequoia]

Is this a bug?

[wind lava]

someone replied to me that it was a special event quest on CN, where the two of them got reincarnated as kids - Yan AnAn and Yan Guanyin, in Harvestfall Village. hope that quest comes to Global soon!

[grim sequoia]

Cause we know Jiang Yan was taken under Wang Qing when his father Jiang Yuan died

Assuming his younger appearance in the pre-release trailer was like in his 30s to 40s

[scenic obsidian]

Nah

[winter furnace]

so where is Uncle Jiang now
did he fell into a well or something

[crimson birch]

he's out in the jianghu

[crystal stream]

Really tho?

[royal plover]

Searching for new baby to save

[scenic obsidian]

In end of the game trailer

[grim sequoia]

He left three years ago and then ran off in a disguise after stealing the Zhenguan jade from SDJ

[scenic obsidian]

Wang Qin is full of white hair

[scenic obsidian]

The reason why we have a younger version of him in game is because that’s a flashback

[hexed lagoon]

Tho he searched new widow to get a new baby to save

[scenic obsidian]

Uncle Jiang is 35 right now

He was 19 when he saved us from the battlefield

[hexed lagoon]

Im 35 now and single

[sharp lily]

So is the martial paragon

[hexed lagoon]

Too good too be true

[grim sequoia]

It's always assumed Uncle Jiang stole the jade to conceal SDJ's actual identity and origin

How the jade ended on their hands

[sonic crypt]

Hello friends

[honest rain]

Spawned in holding it (iirc, Jiang Yan picked up the kid with Jade already equipped)

[grim sequoia]

There's no way in hell the baby came out of nowhere, absolutely a chance the baby was dropped from a pile of corpses

[crimson birch]

that part of how SDJ was in the midst of battlefield wrapped is kind of still a mystery

[shut berry]

[dusty sentinel]

Harlo folk im curious what happens to Guanying after the quest

[tawny lagoon]

[devout pulsar]

[nocturne umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-doakes-meme-doakes-suspicious-gif-7434634924845802139

[nocturne umbra]

When anyone talk bout Chang an in the game js know they’re doomed

Guaying is doomed

[limpid crow]

[dusty sentinel]

😔

[nocturne umbra]

[nocturne umbra]

I know the truth is hard but the game is where tears meet

There’s no happy ending

[dusty sentinel]

Fah

[nocturne umbra]

[dusty sentinel]

So next region gonna disclose how Hexi went down? 🥀

[nocturne umbra]

Definitely 👍

Maybe we’ll get a story with good ending too

https://tenor.com/view/rat-shower-bath-soap-gif-16388990

[graceful nymph]

[nocturne umbra]

The devs should at least let us breathe 😭

[nocturne umbra]

Honk honk