📖lore-chat

[swift rain]

so 99% its metaphor

[shut path]

Daily

[lapis egret]

Anyone know how to get there?

[royal jewel]

Hey y’all I was wondering if someone could explain The death of the governor campaign, like I get some of it just confused on the majority

[north trench]

@scenic obsidian you see that features end of sleeve become so big many wmm skin have this feature. also i ever see this feature in real clothes. i not fan of it i don't like it.

do you know lore behind it

[scenic obsidian]

This is a Daopao（道袍）, a standard dress of Taoism

[iron canyon]

#📖lore-chat message this may help you (it's about the boss design), his death was a mystery even irl history

[scenic obsidian]

The celestial vanguard were inspired by a God of Taoism named Yangjian or Erlang Shen

You can see where they got the inspiration from

It’s a combination between Er Lang Shen from Black Myth Wukong and the movie Creation of the Gods I: Kingdom of Storms

[royal jewel]

Honestly I know wwm is rooted is Chinese culture but it looks like there’ll be a lot of differences due to the presence of martial artists and more. Like the presence of the former “Emperor” we saw at the beginning of the game

[iron canyon]

mhm, but honestly they stuck to history pretty well, it's just that they use fictional stuff as a backup to fill in the holes & uncertainty of the rl historical events, the ending doesn't change, but with a touch of metaphors & fictional events

[flint sentinel]

correct me if i am wrong the hexi stuffs is about our character being homesick and coping that our home will no longer be there or be the same, am i right? (besides the historical story telling just added some wuxia stuff)

[somber frost]

[timber flame]

[iron canyon]

the "emperor" we saw at the beginning was one of the openings they used to introduce fictional events, bc irl, he's supposed to be dead in 908

[north trench]

that crazy big sleeve

[unique belfry]

Is hexi a hallucination?

How does the mc travel from hexi to Kaifeng narratively

[north trench]

yeah dream of the pass

[north trench]

she still sleeping

[scenic obsidian]

It’s more complicated than that.

[scenic obsidian]

It’s more complicated than that.

[north trench]

how complicated. like that lamp look funny creepy pasta

(assume you know the reference)

[scenic obsidian]

||The Hexi chapter contains three major symbolic motifs.

First, the Anxi Army and Shazhou represent historical continuity—embodying themes of territorial integrity and cultural cohesion. This is framed through the grand historical movement of “returning to the Tang,” which serves as an allegorical reference for the approach we will take in Yan Yun S Sixteen Cities.

Second, as part of the main narrative arc, the Hexi chapter connects to the protagonist’s search for clues about Aunt Han. Within this thread, the woman in the yellow veil and hat is set up in deliberate parallel (antithetical symmetry) with the protagonist—a relationship that will be further revealed in later developments of the story.

Third, there is the motif of a spiritual resonance between the mural’s creator and the protagonist, symbolizing the transmission of memory and emotion across time.||

[wicked prawn]

hallu what are the utuk raptors supposedly in the game? why was the anxi garisson attacked by them. From dong whitecrown fortress it seemed to me they represent a rival army but the game used vultures for them. Who are they supposed to be?

[vague shoal]

uyghur and ancient tibetans

[twilit finch]

anyone at the lion boss? 😭

[scenic obsidian]

Too quick

[karmic sundial]

[trail trout]

How can I start liangxhou main story? Need calvary decimate

[grave sequoia]

[woven dock]

guys

[twilit finch]

🥀

[woven dock]

why lis liangzhou in ruins when i fnished Death of Governor quest?

[twilit finch]

Its bc we farted on it

[woven dock]

i dont get it?

[limber bough]

wait wanna ask is lian dao zi the guy where he help burlap sack?

[blazing oriole]

hugee spoiler ||Guys Ruby is alive!||

[wicked prawn]

i figured but my friend said this:
That's an interesting symbolism, though Bodpa(Tibetans) were the ones who took over Hexi, Uyghur Khaganate was on good terms with Tang at the time and after the Tang forces retreated from the region Hexi was briefly controlled by Bodpa and eventually Uyghurs

In the current time period of the game, Uyghur Khaganate has already fragmented and the region is controlled by local regimes till it gets taken over by the Tanguts who formed the Western Xia(roughly half a century after the game)

so he's saying its not the uyghurs

[wicked prawn]

shouldnt there be rules on spoilering lore that just came out?
idk itll be nice not to read this immediately lol

[blazing oriole]

Oop, I’ll put a spoiler heh

[wicked prawn]

thank you ^^

[vague shoal]

Yeah I'm leaning towards tibetans as well

Though we did see Uyghurs in burlap sack story, where they were taking advantage of the situation and joined in the pillaging

[scenic obsidian]

I am feeling like there are Uyghurs.

Because the Burlap’s story already have raptors

Which is 20 years earlier than the rising of Tibetan in Hexi

[lean magnet]

Maybe be it still an artistic interpretation?

[scenic obsidian]

And the the Utuk is very close to the Ancient Turkish language the word for battle banner/totem

Tug

And the Uyghurs battle banner/totems are eagles and vultures

[gritty orbit]

[woven dock]

anyone experiencing this?

[tawny blaze]

[hybrid quiver]

will update when i get there

[scenic obsidian]

Because when the governor was died, the Liangzhou was doomed..

[atomic flare]

Hello, does anyone understand Liangzhou Melody? ||Was the girl actually an immortal? Were the other people real and not illusions? Why didn’t he run away when Liangzhou was burning?|| Sorry for asking a lot of questions I really didn’t get it

[scenic obsidian]

It‘s all metaphors

[atomic flare]

what did the metaphors mean

[scenic obsidian]

It’s not meant to be taken literally—the whole story is symbolic. The girl isn’t actually an immortal; she represents memory, longing, or an idealized past the protagonist can’t hold onto, while the other people are “real” more in a narrative sense, like fragments of memory rather than fully grounded individuals. Liangzhou burning symbolizes the collapse of a world—his home, identity, or an entire era—rather than just a physical event, and the reason he doesn’t run is emotional, not logical: leaving would mean abandoning what that world means to him, so the story is really about attachment and loss, not survival.

“Liangzhou Melody” conveys that people’s longing for their homeland does not disappear even when it has physically ceased to exist. At the end, it interweaves seven or eight well-known folk songs—including Uyghur, Mongolian, Hezhe, as well as folk songs from northern and southern China.

Liangzhou represents an outpost beyond the frontier where people, unable to return home because of sweeping historical forces, gather to long for their spiritual homeland.

[tropic violet]

OK SO sorry if this is a stupid question in some way and u can flame me for it but

Since Hexi is basically a dream of the past, then what is it in the present yk? Like kaifeng/qinghe time. Like did it go through what Chang'an went through?

Or do we js not know yet 😭

[scenic obsidian]

Hexi is river west Region

Kaifeng and Qinghe is the river south region

The entire region were no longer under the control of China at the time of our main-story line

Hexi isn’t just a “dream of the past,” it’s a real historical region (the Hexi Corridor), but in the story it’s used symbolically. By the Kaifeng/Qinghe era, that region was no longer under stable control of the central Chinese state, so it didn’t really “go through the same thing as Chang’an” in a direct narrative sense. Instead, it represents a lost frontier—places that were once connected to the cultural center but became separated due to war and historical upheaval. So in the “present” of the story, Hexi exists more as a memory-space or cultural echo rather than a fully integrated part of the same world as Kaifeng.

Which is also the reason why our MC can’t travel physically from Kaifeng or Qinghe to Hexi from our current map, because that area were under control of several different regimes, it was consider foreign territory.

So Northern China in Tang Dynasty used to have Hedong(Yellow River East Region), Hexi(Yellow River West Region), Hebei(Yellow River North) and Henan(Yellow River East). At the time of our main main storyline, we only have Hedong and Henan left, Hexi and Hebei were both lost

Hebei were controlled by Khitan, Hexi were controlled by Tibetans and Uyghurs.

A little bit of geography lesson

In ancient China, the north and the south were defined using two different rivers. In the north, regions were oriented around the Yellow River: Hedong (east of the river), Hexi (west of the river), Hebei (north of the river), and Henan (south of the river) all refer to their positions relative to the Yellow River aka Huanghe. Correspondingly, in the south, the Yangtze River aka Changjiang was used: Jiangxi (west of the river), Jiangdong (east of the river), Jiangnan (south of the river), and Jiangbei (north of the river).

[tropic violet]

Ohhhhhhh

[tropic violet]

So which country is Hexi under the control of now?

[scenic obsidian]

China

[tropic violet]

Wair what

[alpine gust]

Does the map of the game roughly similarly match the locations in actual China?

[scenic obsidian]

It took China 400 years to regain control of Hexi

[scenic obsidian]

Kinda of

[tropic violet]

Ohhh, and that's after the main storyline dates

[scenic obsidian]

Way after

[tropic violet]

U mentioned Hexi was kinda like a memory/fragments of one, so does that mean after it was no longer under stable control of the central Chinese state, or like the period which it did, we dont know what Hexi is going through during main storyline times, just know what it used to go through

[scenic obsidian]

Yes, exactly.

Beyond MC’s pay grade.

[tropic violet]

😭😭😭

[scenic obsidian]

We already have to worry about the scary Khitan in the North controlled the Hebei region.

Hexi would be too much.

[tropic violet]

I forgot how exploring Hexi would contribute to MC's adventures icl... got too caught up on the stuff that's going on there

OH BONUS QUESTION
Is that why the oddities are js on stone slabs when in our inventories?

[scenic obsidian]

In a sense, losing Hexi was not entirely a bad thing, because it meant China no longer directly bordered the Middle East, which at the time was caught in ongoing arms races and repeated Eurasian conflicts. Given the Song dynasty’s relatively limited military strength, it would have been far from capable of simultaneously confronting the Khitan and the successive Arab empires.

[woven dock]

Ooooooh, okay thanks for the info! So the map will permnently stay like that then?

[scenic obsidian]

Yep.

[scenic obsidian]

Exploring Hexi isn’t really about advancing the MC’s plot in a direct, linear way—it’s more about shaping the MC’s understanding of the world. Hexi functions as a “memory space” where the MC encounters lost histories, displaced people, and fragments of past civilizations, which deepens the emotional and thematic weight of their journey rather than pushing the main quest forward mechanically. And yeah, the oddities being on stone slabs is very intentional—they’re like preserved imprints or echoes of the past, not normal objects, reinforcing that what you’re collecting are memories and cultural traces rather than physical loot.

I always said the Global Server should skip Hexi to the next chapter because too much history lesson even a lot of native Chinese people having trouble figuring out what’s going on and the censorship against mentioning Uyghurs and Tibetans just made it even worse. Plus it won’t hurt much because the entire Hexi region won’t ever appear again in the history until 400 years later.

[tropic violet]

Omg😭
Side quest disguised as a main quest

[scenic obsidian]

It also made my job much much more difficult

[tropic violet]

I can tell, youre working overtime 🥹

[scenic obsidian]

I am basically have to act that dude deep in the Warhammer 40K to explain what’s the difference between Necron and Tzeenth to someone never even play the game before.

[tropic violet]

Might aswell just explain the whole game 😓😓

Well thanks for the history lesson, rly appreciate it🤩🤩

[limber bough]

ngl as a person who was in chinese orchestra, really love LZ melody story

[scenic obsidian]

The ending hits home to me.

[atomic flare]

thank you!

[scenic obsidian]

When you hear the lyrics of folk songs in Shanbei dialect, Uyghurs language, Mongolian, Nanai language, Hunan dialect, Mandarin, Cantonese, Hokkien and Wu in the end of Liangzhou Melody.

It made me cry

[strong wasp]

0

[ocean wedge]

:000

[obtuse root]

whats the meaning behind the lyrics that sandy musician keeps singing/reciting? (at the start when you move from sandy to snowy area)
started out as "ten men rode out from the desert" and was counting down to 4 soldiers i think, 2 remain 1 minister or smth

[scenic obsidian]

The lyrics the sandy musician recites—starting with “ten men rode out from the desert” and gradually counting down—are likely a stylized, poetic reference to a small group of riders (originally “ten riders leaving a frontier pass,” like the Chinese phrase 十骑出散关) who set out on a dangerous journey and are slowly lost along the way; the countdown structure emphasizes attrition, sacrifice, and the harsh reality of frontier conflict, where each step forward costs lives, until only a few—or even one—remain, symbolizing both the brutality of war and the persistence of memory, duty, or mission even after nearly everyone is gone.

San Pass (Sanguan, 散关) was a strategically important mountain pass in ancient China, located in what is now Shaanxi Province, serving as a key gateway between the Guanzhong heartland (the political core around Chang’an) and the western frontier regions such as Longxi and the Hexi Corridor. Because of its narrow terrain and defensive advantages, it functioned as a major military chokepoint, often controlling the movement of armies, supplies, and envoys between central China and the northwest; as a result, it frequently appears in historical and literary contexts as a symbol of frontier tension, departure into danger, and the boundary between the secure interior and the uncertain outer regions.

[blissful knoll]

😮

[scenic obsidian]

Basically, it’s similar to Hadrian’s Wall in Britain.

HeXi is roughly comparable to the lands beyond the Wall in A Song of Ice and Fire/The game of throne

And San Guan is the northern wall.

Liangzhou is roughly equivalent to Winterfell.

[elder marsh]

(Sorry to interrupt, just here to say that I think the lore in/of the Ghost Market is really cool!)

[scenic obsidian]

It’s also pretty close in meaning, Liang（凉）means chilly，Zhou（州）means state，So Liangzhou means chilly state.

Pretty close to Winterfell

[trail trout]

Guys, I can't start liangzhou main quest, how can I get complete calvary decimate

[ocean wedge]

Owww

[ruby jay]

. Dont mind me I'm just bookmarking this so i can come back to read later

[wraith sigil]

What’s the relationship between Jiangnan and Gangnam from Gangnam style which i assume is just Korean pronunciation of Jiangnan

[limber bough]

wait anyone knows whats the connection between ||xiaolian and lian daozi?||

||are they the same person?||

[ornate condor]

Sorry if this has been asked before but, where would Chang'an be in relation to kaifeng on a map? And also where would weiyang be?

[jade aurora]

When is the grassland map coming out

[crimson birch]

yup that is zhao guangyi in his commoner disguise and using jin zhongyuan name

will see in unseen mountain

[stoic fern]

Yoo, is this new update buggy for you? 🤔

[crimson birch]

let's go to #💬martial-pavilion this channel is for lore

[stoic fern]

Oh okiee

[amber cargo]

hello

[slender jetty]

hola

[ember tiger]

[tight hazel]

Yuri OMG

[lost matrix]

thanks for this!

[amber sleet]

About the Paper Moon story, specifically near the end of it: ||Did I miss something in regards to her eyes? Why did she lose them? Some sort of ancient barbaric punishment for people accused of adultery?||

[meager venture]

i love chilli 🤤

[surreal citrus]

(Y)

[somber nebula]

[ember tiger]

[gloomy flame]

honk honk!

[oak jay]

the lore of this game is hard to follow if u only do the main quests

[ember tiger]

if you have bad memory too i dont remember anything

[frail holly]

What is changan?

[lean magnet]

The capital of the tang dynasty. One of the best dynasty til everything went to hell, leading to the five kingdoms dynasty then to the beginning of the song dynasty which is the current era in the game. The area still stay till these day and is known as Xian which serves good noodles

[ember tiger]

can anybody record me what happen if you give the book to wen yuan?

they're so cute

[sharp chasm]

honestly the lore of the story is hard to understand period. It makes a lot of assumption that you have prior knowledge of Chinese historical events.

[hasty moss]

Lian daozi is Xiaolian from the burlap sack quest right?

[rain dew]

really?

[sonic fern]

Is this lian guy in laingzhou son of liam the one who was give the cotton seed by burlap sack

[mystic idol]

no, its so she basically will listen to the family and get married like they wanted her to

[honest rain]

I think the family wanted to disable her, so she stops "acting up" and trying to go against their schemes, but in a way that was still marriage material, so they went for the eyes

[amber sleet]

That's... insane. 😛

And then ||The grandma had the gal to ask "are you angry with me?" or whatever it was||

[mystic idol]

the grandma knew that at the end it wasnt her

[honest rain]

||《A good well-behaved daughter would understand that family decisions come above any feeling》|| type thing

[amber sleet]

Thank you both. I liked both of the main stories so far, but that part threw me a bit.

[mystic idol]

yeah was commonly accepted during that time that basically the best thing a daughter can do is be married off to a good family

an unfortunate product of the norms they lived with back then

[fleet kernel]

Hey is there a reference guide to what in game is based on history and/or mythology?

[honest rain]

It's very old-school, but it's not the first time WWM brought up arranger marriages and traditionalist view on women back in the time. No matter how many strong women they have, the people still stick to old concepts. Just of the top of my head we have:

• Feng Ruzhi is presenting herself as the prize for winner
• Ghost Master Jiang Kui's sister was sold into ghost marriage. He works to save girls who fall victim to this practice, while looking for a way to bring his sis back
• Li Zhenzhen was bought into arranged marriage, but she was rescued
• both these stories have uncountable unnamed women who were victims and suffered or were rescued
• daughters of Wen family are said to be treated as a commodity, the only thing that saved Wen Wuque (||Yingying||) from this fate was that she was separated from her family after her mother's death
• Shen Yu, no comments, it's just her plot

In all these stories women are treated as commodity to be wed/sold/won into arrangements, to the point that some groups would equate them to corpse "husbands". There are many stories in WWM that go about relationship in a nice way (Zhu Yu and Feng Yi, Wei Zhixi and Zhao Pu, Song Yu and Fuling and plenty more all seem to be/have been happy in their marriages; Zhai Chun rejected Zhang Su and he took it with grace, etc). There's a range to it in WWM world, but the devs don't turn away from the ugly parts

[honest rain]

Unfortunately, no😔 you just have to Google names and hope it lands on someone's Wiki. You can also cross-reference events by year 962. The big-name locations are all based on real life, but smaller ones aren't [ex: Kaifeng is real, Dreamfall Cliff isn't]

[fleet kernel]

Yeah I was looking at videos of Kaifeng earlier. I'll check some stories out and see what I can find

[honest rain]

A lot of events referenced as in-game history are irl events. An Lushan rebellion happened, Lady Gongsun likely existed *, but Liyuan opera (irl source for Masked Troupe) did not go into seclusion. Emperor Wuzong indeed persecuted Buddhist practitioners, monk Liaowu might've existed *, but there were no Midnight Blades formed

*don't quote me on either of those

[amber sleet]

I understood that part, ||it was the seemingly random loss of sight that wasn't mentioned that confused me. I thought it might have been some brutal punishment of the times to do with adultery and looking at another while being betrothed, but I wanted to ask whether I missed anything. The fact that it seems to be 'just' a method to instill discipline is even more insane.||

[honest rain]

What we know: Zhao Guangyi, Zhao Kyangyin, Zhao Pu and Shen Yilun are all irl political figures. Some of Sect masters are vaguely based on irl people. Li Yu existed, but he's getting extra-glazed by devs. Zhengs were a real clan from previous dynasty, but it's unlikely they had an insane son like Zheng E

[honest rain]

It might be a thing discovered through encounter/wandering tale/dark surge🤔

[amber sleet]

Maybe, guess I'll find out eventually ^^

[honest rain]

That's the spirit^^

[rancid lake]

[blazing oriole]

The story as game progresses is pretty goated

[lost juniper]

guys game not working on pc how to fix it. error connection failed

[limber bough]

wait anyone knows whats the connection between|| xiaolian and lian daozi||?
are they the ||same person||?

[honest rain]

#🌱beginner-questions or #1440984503978954897

[worldly frost]

Bruh this new story is SO BAD! It’s a walking and yapping simulator idk why they think we would want to play something like that

[sonic fern]

No it's his grandson I guess

[sonic fern]

Lian daozi and xaolian are grandson and grandfather respectively

So they are not the same person I was confused too at first but after the whole story it's more clear now

[limber bough]

Ohhhh no wonder , they look so similar , thanks for clarifcation

yea they were talking about grandpa (but didnt know they are referring to xiao lian)

[sonic fern]

Yeah and he tells a story about seed because it was his grandfather who brought the cotton seed to main china ig

[sonic fern]

In the last cut they show everyone playing songs at the tower and another person with the pipa and he was wearing same clothes as xaolian so it's clear now

One of the best stories of the game so far imo

[limber bough]

yea as a person who was in chinese orchestra, I really love the music lore behind it

someone actually told me the exact thing to me " Songs dont die etc"

[sonic fern]

Damn i wish they let us play that changnan song like uk in mechanics

[limber bough]

Dao zi playing that pipa , i think its called Liuqin , Pipa is bigger and longer

it feels like that

[sonic fern]

That whole thing about when u look from the tower u see ur home was so good ... Like ironically u js think about ur home

[hasty moss]

Xiaolian was leaving Hexi for the first time and he looks young so I thought it's Daozi, since the book only states his grandfather leaving when he was like 65. But their demeanors doesnt match

[sonic fern]

Oh i don't know it said pipa in the English version so

[limber bough]

yea its somewhat a pipa

[sonic fern]

His grandfather left home when he was 65 for fame and glory or sum ... But it told nothing about the past tho

[limber bough]

but this one is a much high pitched one

[sonic fern]

And his mother died

[sonic fern]

I see

[limber bough]

im even surprised they actually have guan zi in the musician

its a very underrated instrument ppl even talk about

in chinese orchestra, rarely ppl use guan zi

[sonic fern]

Kinda felt whole thing was an hallucination after the first night at the inn ngl cuz it's way too obvious and suspicious

[hasty moss]

Yeah he arrived in Hexu at 20, left once at 60 and again at 65, last time is for Chang'an.

Maybe burlap sack is one of the times he tried to leave but didnt, hence the "3 times"

[limber bough]

Guan zi is the one instrument where the musician siblings are playing

[sonic fern]

I see

Burlap sack definitely died on that rock tho

Maybe he js wanted to b optimistic or sum idk

[sonic fern]

I see

What is that big string thing that's guan zi ?

O yes it was

[limber bough]

its a blowing instrument

[sonic fern]

No no like big string thingy many strings

[limber bough]

Guan zi (u can the sibling blowing some small tube vertically down)

[sonic fern]

What angels play

[limber bough]

the harp?

[sonic fern]

Harp yes

[sonic fern]

I see

[limber bough]

guzheng?

[sonic fern]

I guess bro all ts names so similar n hard I can't remember half of their names

[limber bough]

Guzheng is the one where , its flat on the ground with many strings

[sonic fern]

...I still miss han bro where is she come back bad han

[sonic fern]

Oh not that I'll show if i get time

[sonic fern]

It's like an instrument which angels play

[limber bough]

i think i know which one u talking about , the one that looks exactyly like western harp

[sonic fern]

Not this one

[sonic fern]

Yeah

It can be worn too

[limber bough]

this is just vertical version

[sonic fern]

I have it on my back

[sonic fern]

This yes

[limber bough]

Konghou

[sonic fern]

O alr

[limber bough]

this is rarely used in orchestral setting

[sonic fern]

Kong King Kong

[limber bough]

this is the name

[sonic fern]

Looks cool on back tho

[limber bough]

yea

[gilded tartan]

I was in the Heaven's Well sect and I can't equip the Hengdao, what do I do?

[honest rain]

#🌱beginner-questions or #1440984503978954897

[glad depot]

[full phoenix]

[tropic violet]

Curious, ||why are still some flowing glows in Liangzhou even after the fall of the region? Because most got replaced with flowing ink, so why not the ones in Summereve Garden, Homesight Tower, and Reveler's Terrace?||

Also, idk if this is obvious but, does that mean that ||the fallen Liangzhou is the present one? Like current timeline outside of Hexi||

[glad depot]

[tropic violet]

Okay final question i swear...
But
||Who is the boss in the campaign quest? Is it the assassin and the guy with the paint brush looking thing or what.||

[scenic obsidian]

Yep, Korean borrow a lot of Chinese geographical concept

[tiny frost]

The PTSD is kicking in

[crimson birch]

YM still having nightmares about the blissful retreat fire

[inland musk]

If you have any tips for the deer gimmick in the new map, please let me know. - Gangster

[tiny frost]

Young Master found someone with the same hatred. Too bad, she's probably already history.

Devs: we made a winemaker NPC with the same tragic background story but you'll never see her again. Soulmate who? Little Zhao is the best we can do.

[celest flume]

FAHHH burning blissful retreat...

[celest flume]

Parry and dodge

[red pulsar]

According to the lore I get gacha outfit today! 🙏

[topaz pilot]

hey is this part of story

looks good ngl

[neon warren]

Good luck on it it's always hard pity for me lmao so best of luck to you

[red pulsar]

Thank you Lord Bones 420. 🙏

[scarlet yarrow]

imagine if they had the balls to go the historical route instead of this fantasy.. sogdians and fire temples are intriguing

[west drum]

Is the lianzhou village destroy after completing the campaign death of the governor?

[trim mesa]

like ur pfp

[celest flume]

Thanks

[silk zinc]

[harsh tide]

[scenic obsidian]

Yes

[west drum]

😢

[west drum]

Any ways to go back?

[scenic obsidian]

Go to map and look at the top left corner

There is a clock symbol

[west drum]

Then

Oh this?

[scenic obsidian]

Yes

[west drum]

So it will restore the old lianzhou

?

[scenic obsidian]

Yes

Or you can come here

Drinking the blood wine gives the Liangzhou in Ruins

Drinking the moonshine gives the original Liangzhou

[west drum]

Oh good i thought i destroyed it like how blissful retreat was destroyed

😢😢

[scenic obsidian]

This is a dream

So you can restore it with no problem

Blissful retreat is physically in ruins

[west drum]

😭

[west drum]

This will unlock after lianzhou fallen?

[scenic obsidian]

Yes

[west drum]

Unlock by encounter?

[languid pewter]

When do I know I’m close to the end of this endless talking quest

[languid pewter]

I got to the part where he says “I killed him”

And it keeps going on and on

[quick orchid]

Z

[west drum]

Which quest?

[pale arrow]

i don't have that symbol

[west drum]

Have to defeated the death of the governor

[covert cove]

what is this , 1 hour talking im lost i have no idea what is going on ***

[pale arrow]

i have

[pale arrow]

its a really really unengaging questline

[covert cove]

i was hyped about new weapons instead i whole day watching and playing as random npcs about something i have no idea what is going on

[pale arrow]

just a fair warning, this one alters your world state. i just completed not long ago and trying to get back to previous state

which, would have been great to know about that before doing it

[covert cove]

alters how, melts snow?

[pale arrow]

not melted snow. think blissful retreat

its different after the campaign portion of it is completed

[covert cove]

im 1 hour deep in that story quest, its to late now to stop Xd

[pale arrow]

but more importantly, it'd probably be good to do this questline with a guide. i missed a gang of collectibles and it seems the only way to get them is to re-do the quest

and right now, i'd rather just quit the game than to re-engage with it

[covert cove]

lol what colectible? im sleeping here and presing W and space

damn

i read somwhere that devs were worried about hexi update to global, now i see why, if they dont implement SKIP ALL BUTTON, this will drag alot people away, its terible

[pale arrow]

sentient being collectibles, if you care about that stuff.

i'm interested in 100% hexi completion title so this is a not insignificant set back for me

[limber bough]

hey anyone know how to revert to old liangzhou, this new liangzhou is so screwed up , everything in pieces?

[pale arrow]

there's supposed to be a clock icon on your solo world map

i haven't had any such luck getting it reverted either since the icon isn't there for me

looks like one has to complete "A Bitter Draught of Home" go to Drunken Terrace to drink "Moonlit Wine" then should be able to return to Old Liangzhou

[cerulean locust]

I just finished the Whitecrown fortress campaign. I'm just curious on what happened prior the 1.5 update when you approach the gate going to Liangzhou. Because now there is the monk and the guard when I finished the campaign.

[pale arrow]

from what i recall, bascially nothing. it would tell you to proceed to Liangzhou but it wasn't possible

[covert cove]

i read singpost at end of that terible campaign, says if u want restore Liangzhou back, drink Aynur wine

[tiny frost]

It's a campaign in Hexi

[cerulean locust]

Ohhh, so there's like a sandstorm too that will teleport you back? I'm just wondering if people who already did the quest prior to 1.5 saw the monk and the guard cutscene. Thanks

[tiny frost]

I forgot how lengthy the main questline in hexi was lol Death of the governor was not even close

Even young master is not safe from ||Doomed|| (Potential) Romance

[tiny frost]

Her VA did a good job with her portrayal ngl, I felt the hatred

[limber bough]

agreed it has a seething tone

[thick anchor]

🫪

[foggy tiger]

monk is from sidequest i think wandering tale

there was no monk for me since i already finish that particular quest

[cerulean locust]

Thanks. I was just wondering since I have no time to play Jade Gate Pass for the previous month. The gate was so open so I wondered what happened when you go through it after the campaign.

[foggy tiger]

u couldnt there would be sandstorm to teleport u back

[pulsar hare]

why do they change the storyline from aunt han to ballsack? is there a reason for it?

[scenic obsidian]

The short answer is they were trying to catch the cultural trend in China a couple of years ago to tell a story about Tang Dynasty.

However, due to the lagging on development, they couldn’t roll out the update on time.

A couple years ago the Chinese pop culture had a “Tang fever”.

[pulsar hare]

so im assuming since they already commit to it we wont be getting the continuation on aunt han story for a while?

[scenic obsidian]

Yep, for about a year.

[pulsar hare]

oh hell no

[scenic obsidian]

Aunt Han won’t appear again until the most recent chapter in CN server, which is about a year from the current progress of the Global Server

[pulsar hare]

so we will be getting more walking simulator main quests?

[scenic obsidian]

Yes

Don’t ever think about jumping

[pulsar hare]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-gif-19730757

[fiery panther]

jumping

[final moon]

yo, im not huge in lore stuff, but the moon maiden looks so cool and ive tried to figure out why she looks like that. From what I can gather she was a princess? of the pond? :o does anyone know

[lean magnet]

I like how the fact that only qianye and lord Shi are the only one who are not resting unlike the rest of the boss. They really there for the grind lol

[ember tiger]

im pretty sure thats bc they are our actual enemy

when you try to kneel it'll say only kneel to those who deserve it or something

[quick orchid]

W

[cerulean bluff]

their hearts are corrupted to the core. not even Void King is that bad, he has his rest days

[scenic obsidian]

She embodies the archetype of the heqin（和亲）princesses—royal women sent throughout Chinese history to marry into northern nomadic tribes in the hope of securing peace through diplomatic alliance.

In reality, most of these princesses did not end well. The game softens the tragic nature of the heqin tradition through a more poetic and romanticized portrayal—but if you pay attention, you’ll notice that during the boss fight, she is actually crying the entire time.

The tradition of heqin (marriage alliances) in China lasted for over a thousand years. It began in the Han Dynasty, exemplified by Wang Zhaojun (c. 54–19 BCE), who was sent to marry the Xiongnu. Later, during the Sui Dynasty, Princess Anyi (early 7th century) was married off to the Turks. In the Tang Dynasty, Princess Wencheng (married in 641 CE) was sent to Tibet.

In essence, heqin was a reluctant diplomatic strategy adopted by ruling governments when they were unable to fully defeat their rivals militarily—an act of concession framed as appeasement.

[final moon]

Thank you for the in-depth reply! Super interesting!!!

[scenic obsidian]

Then in the new harmony finishing animation, “Moonlit Pavilion”, it is essentially implied that the princess commits suicide—drowning herself. In her final moments beneath the water, she glimpses the pavilions and towers of her homeland, as if seeing it one last time before death

[weary gust]

Wow, thank you so much for the information! I was actually so curious about her; what a tragic story 😭

[clever trout]

What happened to guangyin's eyes?

They intentionally did it to her?

[midnight cedar]

I cant be the only one who thinks hexi msq has been terrible so far. They shouldve just made a movie. Especially the slow walking and not being able to jump over ledges

[clever trout]

Lmao the slow walking is making me mad

Is entire hexi all about stories?

Also why everyone is so obsessed with Tang?

[wraith sigil]

Best golden age the one everyone talks shout

Radical Japanese right wing even say stuff like Tang was so peak that Post Tang China ain’t even China anymore. Not that i agree with it but it was just that good of a reputation

The obsession with Tang is the same as the Western obsession of Roman Empire

Which is funny because as far as the Shimmer goes Southern Tang is about as Tang as the HRE is Holy or Roman or an Empire

[wraith sigil]

Yes Hexi is a collection of basically short stories

[scenic obsidian]

So all the Chinatown around the world actually call themself street of Tang people(唐人街）.

That’s almost 1300 years later.

[hoary parcel]

probably that particular figure is not blessed / enlightened yet

[scenic obsidian]

Honestly I hate every single aspect of Hexi in its gameplay design.

And the storyline is also pretty bizarre because we are in Song Dynasty, and this chapter is like a fork in the middle of the road.

Think about a game of French Revolution have a entire chapter about Imperium Galliarum.

It just not work.

[wraith sigil]

“I know we’re in s real bad time but let me tell you about the time that was just a bit worse”

It was great then it was really bad way worse than it is now. I know now is bad but way better than the times that was worse xD

If i had to say this is like a story like Kingdom Come Deliverance but then you had a DLC that a monk talks to you about the fall of Rome and suddenly you’re playing a Roman character

[scenic obsidian]

Be graceful, they didn’t make you to be a citizen of Pompeii.

[wraith sigil]

xD

QTE for dodging falling volcanic rocks

If i remember correctly Hexi as a whole didn’t really hit it off in China either

[scenic obsidian]

Yes

It was reviewed critically

[wraith sigil]

Except Lianzhouqu which really got some traction later on

[scenic obsidian]

It feels like the development don’t have the gut to make an entire city of Chang An

[wraith sigil]

But that’s mostly because it made the village Chinese people that were working in cities think of home and the Chinese abroad think of motherland

[wraith sigil]

It took them this long just to make the Song Palace

[scenic obsidian]

Kaifeng is small potato compared to Chang An in both scale, size and details.

[scenic obsidian]

Yes exactly

I am feeling like if we actually experienced the busy streets of city of Chang An and watching it burn in fire in the end of chapter. It would be so freaking epic and much much much stronger in emotional impact.

[clever trout]

How did tang fall again in here? The last emperor gramps is still alive smhw what's he doing atm? 🥹

I mean what's his goal? Dude looks like the final boss

He also founded aureate pavilion idk if i got that right

[wraith sigil]

Well we gave military power to the Turks that’s why

[scenic obsidian]

Child emperor, powerful warlord, corrupt government

[wraith sigil]

We made a Turk a general and would you have guessed he backstabbed us

[scenic obsidian]

He want to use his magical blue bug trick to restore Tang dynasty but as a zombie empire.

He is not only might be the final boss, but also might be MC’s biological father.

[clever trout]

I think someone told earlier its disproved in cn server

[scenic obsidian]

Not exactly

Because the Chinese server don’t have the definite evidence of that.

[cerulean bluff]

no spoiler please

[clever trout]

Sure

[clever trout]

Was li zuo the child emperor?

[scenic obsidian]

Yes

[wraith sigil]

Yes

[scenic obsidian]

He became emperor at 12

[wraith sigil]

I thought Melon’s father is General Wang

[clever trout]

I see why he wants to restore tang but why as zombie empire 😭

[clever trout]

The turk general?

[wraith sigil]

Because then the Tang will never fall again

[scenic obsidian]

Cause zombie have no thought，which means no conflict.

[wraith sigil]

Glory of Tang is eternal

[clever trout]

Lmao whenever yall say melon it kinda throws me off in good way

[wraith sigil]

Roast Winter Melon very tasty

[wraith sigil]

No Turk General is Anlushan the great betrayer

[clever trout]

Evil

[wraith sigil]

And the other great betrayer that sold the Yanyun 16 to the Khitans

[scenic obsidian]

Shijingtang

Chineselized Turks as well

[clever trout]

Wait general wang uncle jiang's adoptive dad?

[wraith sigil]

“Sinofied” / “Sinofication”

Actually where Sina/Singa in Singapore comes from and at one point China was spelled Sina before unified spelling was a thing

[scenic obsidian]

I know that.

Just Chineselizaton sounds better to me.

[wraith sigil]

Understandable

[scenic obsidian]

Because Sina(支那）were used to referring to some bad words against Chinese

I rather use Seres

[clever trout]

That the same wang?

Who was getting puppeted and so on and died

[scenic obsidian]

Yep

This bad boy

[wraith sigil]

Ahhh i get it now, i wasnt aware of that part

[wicked ore]

I'm more and more lost in the lore.

[scenic obsidian]

No worries, things will only get more complicated from now.

[wraith sigil]

Even us Chinese people have to go to lore tubers and watch a video after doing the quests

We are creating jobs and helping the economy xD

[mystic idol]

unlikely given the writing team’s style of writing and the overall themes that have been common throughout the entire game

you can say its possible until confirmed but if this was the case it would also undermine many of those established morals

[scenic obsidian]

Don’t you wanna see LiZuo say the line: “I am your father!”

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-i-am-father-star-wars-gif-15444478

[mystic idol]

I think it’s too common of a trope and wouldn’t add any value in this case

[clever trout]

Wow, fine men only raise fine men

[clever trout]

Hahahaha that remind me of that meme

||melon: u killed my father
Li zuo: no, I am ur father
: what
Li: I mean, I'm pregnant and ur the father
: whaaat
Li: I mean...! YOU'RE PREGNANT AND I'M THE BABY||

I couldn't send the link tho 😭)

[sand summit]

[scenic obsidian]

Feeling so hot

We need a hot summer like that in the game.

Hexi is freezing

[clever trout]

The sand feels too lonely 😭

[feral ether]

I'll take the cold any day

[scenic obsidian]

Give me the Dune feeling but there is no spice.

[stray hollow]

the cold is my fav map so far

[clever trout]

True it feels like Disney ahh setting

[past socket]

I want to try the new map so hard aaaaa

[dawn sail]

man. i absolutely love some of the more "spooky" or mega sad quests like bodhi sea and where a thousand buddhas wept.

[vocal scaffold]

That zhuxie boss and his lil bird was annoying af. The kid npcs in this game always cause me troube

[shut plaza]

kid npcs are lowkey op

[limber bough]

i cant post the link here but youtube has the orchestral version of LZ melody

[fierce pumice]

i already got this item but how come i still cant fly in the new region

[limber bough]

because u are technically in the painting, i rmb someone said this here

[fierce pumice]

oh this new region is painting?

[limber bough]

yea

[fierce pumice]

oh i see

[limber bough]

hexi is like a dream

[fierce pumice]

yeah if u can fly here it will be way too easy

[limber bough]

thats why u can go past and present

[fierce pumice]

i do love this outfit for the new region though

the best region outfit so far imo

[limber bough]

i think the next region outfit is better

[fierce pumice]

oh what is it look like

[limber bough]

but thats for female avvatar lol

[fierce pumice]

show me

[limber bough]

i think its called mohist hill

[fierce pumice]

this outfit?

[limber bough]

the hair is goated

next region is called unseen mountain

[honest rain]

It allows Wallstride, not lightness skills (so, quick running, wall running and water running, not flying)

[honest rain]

It's literally first thing in Hexi quest, you go in because a Mysterious lady asked MC to restore the painting

[honest rain]

This is Mohist Hill sect uniform

[fierce pumice]

do u have the male version?

[honest rain]

Preview material + someone's boy

[fierce pumice]

looks okay

female is better

[honest rain]

I bite the graphing paper texture on the clothes, bc yeah, that's engineering-architecture nerds aesthetics

[fierce pumice]

yeah it is very engineer like

i am looking forward to get one of these set.....just one is enough

[ivory estuary]

What happened to the paper moon girls? Did the red one die?

[vocal scaffold]

The rat king dao lord

[grim roost]

Helo

[errant flicker]

[charred quiver]

[obsidian python]

The new Jianghu Legacy quests aren't as good as they used to be

[simple timber]

need more cooop

[worldly summit]

[simple timber]

👆

[oak iris]

isn't the 2nd one the 28k outfit

[grim sequoia]

Ayo it's him

[fierce pumice]

I'm not sure but that is why i said 1 of these 4..... which ever is cheaper lol

[royal plover]

Free?

Is this mohist skin?

[marble stone]

is it?

[limber bough]

na this is unseen mountain exploration reward

[gilded dew]

yea

[tiny epoch]

Da lore

[crimson birch]

zhang huaishen
which quest? i need to prepare my disguise papers

[nimble flare]

whats the explanation why the towns are in these giant cups in liangzhou?

[vocal scaffold]

Makes u travel faster

Drink it. It’s like a magical subway station

Also hottake incoming: ||ngl hexi msq kinda feels like a walking sim||

[cold fossil]

Which one u like the most

[somber nebula]

[graceful glacier]

where

[severe vale]

i want to get into the lore and story more, but in its current form, its really hard for me to follow because new characters come and go so quickly, talk to me like we've known each other for years and like i know what the hell is happening, and nobody ever bothers to explain any major plot devices or crucial story arc details in plain language.. so i perpetually have zero clue what is going on around me as far as story goes.

"Hey, do you know where the nearest ore merchant is located, sir?"

"Brother, simply listen to the laughter on the wind and when the moon is full, you'll know what needs to be done."

"Uhh.. what?"

[cerulean bluff]

Welcome to wuxia

[grim sequoia]

I'm doing all choices to get the achievement in this Campaign quest ||aka the one where they reveal the death of Zhang Huaishen||

[severe vale]

maybe you have to grow up knowing all of this mythological/historical Wuxia stuff to have any clue whats going on because nobody ever tells you in the game lol

love this game, but yeah.. wish i had even a small understanding of what my character is even doing anymore, quest/story-wise

[mystic idol]

look up youtube videos

there's plenty of content creators who make great videos that explain the background context/analyzes the quest/story to explain to people who are confused

[crimson birch]

recommend wwmgirl and williamsweeb

[clever trout]

He/She gets kidnapped/poisoned/drugged every quest cuz s/he's a valuable asset to everyone

Jk lol

[umbral surge]

is this critical to the lore?

[clever trout]

Wait what quest is this?

[umbral surge]

the governor one, after the assassin part

[celest flume]

Yes
I did this yesterday, i was so serious about the quest until that came up and i cracked

[crimson birch]

FART

https://tenor.com/view/sh-gif-10543636861200196737

[umbral surge]

ngl ive been skipping through it, its genuinely so boring until midway of 2nd chapter

[wheat canopy]

Some things are kinda lost on me, can someone give me a brief telling about Liangzhou's background/history? General Zhou?

[celest flume]

Devs r really smth

[umbral surge]

is Zhang Huaiyue (the woman wearing red and black that shows up in 2nd chapter) the same as the witch qianye?
from my understanding, this whole bit is in the past so it would make sense if its her (in terms of the timeline)

[crystal fable]

does anyone know if all the achievements are obtainable? some are at 0% and as an achievement hunter i like to complete the game again

[upbeat oar]

If you really want all achievements do the achievement shown in game no on Steam

[crystal fable]

some are at 0% and i was just wondering if they were obtainable at the moment

[elder marsh]

Found an NPC named Bu Zhidao a while ago (I think somewhere in Kaifeng) and from what little Mandarin Chinese I still remember, it made me giggle

[upbeat oar]

Some no but that doesn’t matter
You have to spend at least weeks to get every achievement in the game tab

Steam is just picking a few easy randoms

[umbral surge]

i regret doing the governor campaign ngl, i liked the town but now its all rubble

[digital wren]

Devs really made NPC names a wordplay and it doesn't translate well to english. Kind of a shame..
Things like Bu Zhidao(I don't know), Xia Bulai(Can't get down) or even Shang Buqu(Can't go up) makes the game all the more funnier if you know what words it sounds like

[crystal fable]

i can currently obtain all the achievements on steam in this current version?

[upbeat oar]

You can’t platinum

As updates will add achievements

[umbral ruin]

update patch 7GB..i have 112GB free space. but it said no enought disk space ? wtf

[wicked prawn]

so I just got to Liangzhou at the markets. skybrim markets? who are these mutuns the soldiers are talking about?

[turbid gate]

farting is like the funniest thing someone can do as long as it stinks out a whole campsite

[bold totem]

can i ask one guys why this game is alway update with 80GB all the time?

[safe ridge]

Daily comment

[hazy light]

What's the order to play wwm story?

[humble grail]

what's up?

[hazy light]

i just finish Kaifeng and start chapter 3 but i just progress from Qinghe
Also said sth about Uncle Jiang like he's alive

Kinda lost rn

[blissful stirrup]

So Guanyin in-game is deliberately named in honor of the Goddess of Mercy?

I ask to double-check since the verbal name doesn't always correspond to the written name.

[willow cairn]

nice

[fickle bolt]

I have to say, the main stories of Liangzhou were pretty meh for me, but damn, those side stories with Zhang Yichao etc. were incredibly good

I feel like these should have been the main stories, and Melody and Paper Moon should have been side stories

[elder marsh]

I'm a bit behind on story quest but did the River Lord quest yesterday and bawled my eyes out

[fickle bolt]

The one in Keifang? I remember liking it too, yeah

[wheat canopy]

Is An Liuli supposed to be a girl? (doing paper moon story) I thought they were a girl in the trailer but all I'm seeing so far is a dude...

[fickle bolt]

Continue with the story

It's going to be explained

[grim sequoia]

Just remember, ZGY and JZY are the same guy with two different personalities

[honest rain]

With Hexi it almost feels like the Main Story is a vehicle/excuse to bring you/MC to the location while the quests around the location are the "main meal" and where the devs poured all their love

[wheat canopy]

I know no spoilers at all but from what I heard by CN players, it will all tie back in the future

[fickle bolt]

I'm not sure, I REALLY liked Burlap Sack storyline, it's just that Liangzhou main stories are following extremely established tropes, while the side missions go more into history and the more interesting parts

[honest rain]

I won't call it two personalities🤔 just a guy who puts on his serious face when he's at work, and gets silly when he's off [but due to being the prince of Kaifeng he needs different name to get off work without it bevoming a public spectacle]

[elder marsh]

Yea

[grim sequoia]

When I said personality, I say ZGY puts on a prideful face at work and only shows off his actual side when he's JZY

[honest rain]

Yeah, but many people have "work face", it's not exactly something worthy being called "two personalities"

[clever trout]

Is the character Aynur like foreigner or something

Her and her family name sounds different from chinese

Also I want her clothes she so gorgeous

[ripe sphinx]

Hi. I just finished mainstory in Liangzhou. Does the young man actually the grandson of the man that saved by burlap sack in 1st episode of Hexi?

I actually only play attention to lore and story when hexi update began (as i sprint qinhe and kaifeng to catch up on level and stuff) is there any replay to rewatch and reread those lore i missed? (Main story, lost chapter, encounter and such)

[honest rain]

I think she's turkic, but that seems about right for the area

[lilac fossil]

am I close to the end of these slow walking quests that makes you play as some random npc?

[upbeat oar]

No

It will always be like that for Hexi

Or even when you are mc you will slowly walk

That’s how the story is

[bright cape]

gfdg

[lilac fossil]

I don't mind the slow walk in some conditions but they really overdid it with Hexi

a strong of walk-only quests with nothing much but background dialogue

[upbeat oar]

Hexi is a lot about our own character mind

[lilac fossil]

it strikes me more as exposition on fiction writing with Chinese history as influence but just random new characters

[bitter grail]

Out of curiosity - does anyone have a clear answer on how much time passes in real time Qinghe/Kaifeng when young master is in Hexi? like, is it 1:1, or is he still kind of just. dreaming/tripping balls

[astral crest]

Can anyone clear up a potentially dumb question? What happens to Lian Daozi? ||Does he die up in that tower in Liangzhou or...?|| I just want to make sure before I write a fanfic lmao

[honest rain]

A few hours tops, it's all a dream/vision through painting in the end. Yk, like the vision of Zheng manor burning, but on steroids (full location instead of single quest dungeon)

[river kiln]

I haven't finished Lian Daozi story it makes me sleepy somehow lol. I just finished the Jianghu legacy with the big scary snek

[honest rain]

But I think it'll be cleared up in Hexi-3/post dark-surge, when the plot is finished and YM exits the dreamworld

[river kiln]

The snake jumpscared me a few times lol

But I didn't get what really happened in the end? Did General Zhang rebel? Was he successful in getting the governor title?

[bitter grail]

for some reason, the time frame reminds me conceptually of inception's purgatory/limbo concept (trapped there for x amount of years), i wonder if that's an apt comparison?
so like YM would remember, but it would also be kind of... crazy to think about

i suppose why i'm asking is because i am also ||writing lmao||

so like it would have been about, 8-12 hours of sleep for YM but years have passed in there (im not sure about side stories, depends on the YM playing maybe)

[clear hawk]

@torn igloo D M ME

[torn igloo]

i did

[honest rain]

I won't call it exactly "trapped"🤔 YM entered the painting as payment for lost bet. But the mechanics itself is similar to the sleeping. If you see dreams when you sleep, you can spend years or days there, but you don't feel it being weird or scary or involuntary unless you're lucid dreaming, and in the morning you wake up anx think "damn that was a crazy ride" instead of feeling scared or freed of entrapment

[bitter grail]

i appreciate the answer! i think this works for me, but i wonder if he would remember all of it - or just the most important parts, do you think - like the main story. im sure the side stories all happened 100 years ago, but i guess im just asking for personal benefit now hehe

[honest rain]

Oh, YM would def remember, they're weird like that

[honest rain]

All, both main and side stories of Hexi happened hundreds of years ago, and YM is just an observer that was invited to experience it. Most obvious example is that you can find notes about Lady Gongsun and Zhang HuaiSheng in the history tab for their sects, but in Hexi they're mentioned as recent actors

[bitter grail]

i think so too! thanks for the answer 💛 i'm glad to hear it's mostly aligning up with my thoughts

[ornate condor]

Is it implied that An Liuli died at the end of Paper Moon?

[iron canyon]

most probably, yes the two msq & death of ??? happened at the same time

[astral crest]

I see I see, ty!!

[iron canyon]

the man saved up by burlap sack is the young man's (LianDaoZi) great grandfather (XiaoLian - Lian Er Lang), you could see his great grandfather's name in the tavern records

[ornate condor]

@iron canyon but why? It doesn't seem to have any narrative purpose other than just to have a bad ending?

[upbeat oar]

She died finding home
It’s a compromise

A lot of people in Liangzhou are achieving their goal by doing compromise

[honest rain]

It's "Better die trying than live yearning" for many characters

[frail holly]

Who was the immortal girl?

[iron canyon]

It's just like how when LiuLi first met GuanYin, LiuLi is the one bringing guanyin freedom, the reality is set, no matter how, guanyin is just like any other women in a reputable family, they're all "sacrifices" in political marriages. We can't change the ending, because everything happened at the same time, it's a destined tragedy from the start, only by LiuLi "sacrificing" can she exchange for Guanyin's freedom

[ornate condor]

oh i see

Personally didn't like that story as much as the previous one, cuz wer kinda led to believe everything is good up until the very end and in the end shes just dead? so out of nowhere

Wasnt even any build up to the death

[iron canyon]

XinZiZai (Guanyin's friend) is picturing the women who got married off politically, they may seem to be reputable (bc of their husband's family), but in reality, they're often getting suppressed & disrespected (exp, how the child saying that words from someone with different surname [outsider] can't be held weight). Guan Yin knew her life after being married off will become like that (which was why she locked herself up copying scriptures, thinking it would help her escape her fate), her thoughts only solidified after meeting LiuLi, who was free & can do whatever she wanted. LiuLi herself is like the moonlight that LiuLi always used to reassure GuanYin & made her happy, the moment GuanYin agreed with LiuLi's plan, it means she's set and wanting to fly out of the cage (Cao family).

[mystic idol]

its supposed to mean the same as like “bs”

[mystic idol]

dont pay attention specifically to which are side stories vs main stories, theyre all very relevant its not really like other mmos where side stories are considered lower quality or less important.

[ornate condor]

oh

[mystic idol]

he decided he didnt care for the governor title and that it doesnt impact his legacy. What it was was that the snake was a metaphorical representation of his thought to rebel because the court was using the governor’s title to repress him (hold him in changan). In the beginning of the quest, he was worried about the legacy he would leave behind in history, and so briefly considered rebelling against the court

[lilac fossil]

ok what the hell. that sad story of the Cao girl. how is it tied to our MC?

is the MC just reading scriptures and texts and tripping all this time in their head?

[iron canyon]

The 3 names (GuanYin, LiuLi, XinZiZai) have deep connections. Starting from GuanYin, in Buddism GuanYin is also called "GuanShiYin" & "GuanZiZai Bodhisattava", which has no fixed gender and 33 manifestations. GuanYin is a symbol of compassion and wisdom, where they save all beings and guide people to break through their inner obstacles to achieve freedom. In game, GuanYin's mindset was free, yet physically she was confined in the cage of her family.

LiuLi is one of the seven treasures of Buddism, and is the one that symbolizes wisdom and compassion of Dharma, representing a state of purity as clear as LiuLi, and a personality resilience and wisdom. LiuLiGuanYin (yep, exactly the same characters as the two girls), is also one of the manifestations of the GuanYin Bodhisattva, embodying the wish for spiritual purification and transcending suffering.

XinZiZai (a state of free mind) representing people transcending spiritual shackles, returning to their pure nature while facing up and downs of life with a clear & tolerant attitude, achieving true freedom and tranquility between altruism & self-interest/selfishness.

Combining everything we can conclude that the three names & characters were pursuing spiritual freedom. Which is something that all women are looking forward to, but no matter how high their dreams were, they were always shackled, by injustice, by inequality & those traditions of ancient families. There are countless women out there, facing the same fate as GuanYin, but GuanYin was lucky to have LiuLi who truly broke GuanYin free from her invisible shackles.

[unique raptor]

Hello game administrators and moderators. I received a message from an account named Where Wind Meet. I mistakenly thought it was spam and deleted it because I didn't check carefully. The message contained a short code and instructions on how to enter it. I accidentally deleted it. Could you please send it back to me?

[lilac fossil]

you know what...fair.

that's the first hexi quest I actually got interested in

[frail holly]

Did the 2 girls die?

[iron canyon]

You can pick up a book about them at the pavillion around the cao mansion where they met

[honest ermine]

So even NPC's and bosses goes into strike :/

[vagrant swift]

[mystic idol]

Its a government given rest day

[south flame]

[honest ermine]

O I can finally propose to Murong Yuan with goosy slide

[river kiln]

Ohh thanks! Then was the kid representing his inner child or smth

Or I think it's more like his childhood dream

[mystic idol]

The kid represented his dream

yeah, like his dream removed from all the nuance of the world

[river kiln]

Yeah! So in the end he threw away his childish dream and ambition for governor title because he realized he didn't need those anymore. He realized he'd already made his mark in history.

I liked this quest more than the main quest haha. Especially the parts where the snake was hunting you and also the cutscenes where it was snaking around the characters. I thought it was a cool visualization of his ambition almost taking over the general.

[river kiln]

I was really confused too why the shop npc refused to sell anything lmao

Had to do the knee slide so I could buy stuff from Feng Cheng

[frail holly]

So the magic girl died and the other one became free right?

Damn

Why they gotta write these sad stories

Chapter 1 of this game was already sad😭

[kindred cobalt]

Can some tell me how the hexi storyline connects to our character?

[river kiln]

That chapter made me cry ngl. Chapter 2 made me tear up too, especially after searching up the en translation for the song little Fu sings 🥲

[river kiln]

It's more like a side story I think? The MC is dreaming it

[past bear]

Yeah I'm hoping for some slightly less sad stories lol

[hoary parcel]

ran out of tears

[clever trout]

The last scene of the moonlight wine quest was so epic

This is what we need from this game 🩸

[clever trout]

Does it have anything to do with qianye,aunt han or so on?

[upbeat oar]

Not really ?

Young Master never faced the reality of losing their family, their home, they never tried to go on, we only ran away hoping to find people on the road

Hexi is some type of introspection through the dreams for our MC

Since we didn’t tried to learn in the past, we are now learning through the perspective of others

Young Master trauma will persist as long as they don’t understand that to find home, you need to do compromise

[river kiln]

I'm not sure yet since the full storyline is not completely available to global yet. But the mysterious girl npc we talked to hinted that it could give some clue to what mc is looking for. So maybe?

[river kiln]

Ohh makes sense.

[upbeat oar]

The main objective is still the same
Finding Aunt Han, and the other that could survive the disaster

But young master needs to understand why someone should do this, find home, and what it represents

If I remember correctly Qinchuan should make all of this a bit more obvious

But there are already some hints in Hexi

For exemple when you play the first part in the desert, the oasis you see is bamboo grove, where Uncle Jiang was

[frail holly]

Anyone can drop spoilers about mohist hill story?

[mystic idol]

theres a lot of bilibili videos that go over mohist hill story, and bilibili has translated subs

[upbeat oar]

||basically Kaifeng needs ressource from there, send you, you help the place, Qianye as always add her shi to the lot||

[covert quarry]

I guess playing new region is not useful since after new lvl cap 95 we need lot of talent points so leaving it temp is worth it

[mystic idol]

you could just play it and not use the talent points until after

[covert quarry]

After reaching max talent (this season)points it won't count

It will stop and don't count

[upbeat oar]

I don’t know if it’s not just visually

People will complain anyway and they will have to do something at some point

[covert quarry]

It's a tips and tricks for some guys

If u play this game from the beginning u can feel that

[swift rain]

||im curious when that Assassin on Governor jianghu legacy mentioned her name
that assassin is actually her brother ? ||

[compact minnow]

the true lore is that everyone is crack able except Ruby ofc

[timber pawn]

Will my account be suspended even if I use Reshade?

[sly bramble]

Did anyone do the quest with the huge snake statue? Is it worth is story/reward wise?

[topaz pilot]

Hey what's up guyz

[topaz pilot]

First time hearing explain bro

[swift rain]

you mean Sekiro alike white snake ?

[mystic idol]

you get as much out of story as you put into it, if you pay attention and do your research, its a very good story

[sly bramble]

You get a knowledge piece at the end (yichao III)

[sly bramble]

Am doing the kid shocked me with his declaration at first lol

[sly bramble]

You see a kid stealing a lamp and get into a hidden Passage basically

[sly bramble]

It’s literally a gigantic statue that comes alive after a while, is it the same as what you thought?

[swift rain]

its alive since beginning

[jade aurora]

You don't have to kill it ...i finished it today

[ripe sphinx]

So the story jump 3 generation from hexi part 1 to hexi part 2? Wow.. its like wellspring quest (i bawling my eyes out doing that story 😭😭😭)

[sly bramble]

It killed me
Multiple times

[jade aurora]

When is the grassland map coming out?

[sly bramble]

I didn’t even do 1 and 2
Went straight for 3 accidentally

[ripe sphinx]

Uh oh.. im global player.. we havent got part 3 yet.. part 2 just release 3 days ago

[sly bramble]

Ann so why does the painting reward says it is the third one?

[mystic idol]

yeah, well theres another slight timeskip from zhang yichao (snake) to zhang huaishen (death of governor)

[ripe sphinx]

Im not sure which painting you refer to 😅 im also a beginner barely start 1 month ago sorry

[frail holly]

Just did the Aynur quest and the governor one, was Aynur the assassin?

[mystic idol]

but its smaller

also a fun tidbid but we first see zhang yichao in jade gate pass

[sly bramble]

Oh I see and why does the kid ||turn into a sword|| ?

[mystic idol]

he’s called “Young Yichao”, next to Granny Pan before you finish that wandering tale

[sly bramble]

Ahhhh true!

[ripe sphinx]

I havent start the other story after finishing the man playing his pipa while the city on fire, but i already battle moon maiden, i wonder is there any story about her consider how unique the way to battle her. (AND SUPER SUPER LOVE THE OST OF PHASE 2!! awesome work for the team involved)

[mystic idol]

The kid is yichao, its an internal symbolism of his hopes and aspirations in a pure form

[sly bramble]

Right! I remember that part! Thank you so much!

[honest rain]

Wait, that's the same guy??? Time changes people, huh

[sly bramble]

That’s amazing and the cinematic storytelling

[mystic idol]

[honest rain]

There is lore in antiques, books and Wandering Tales around her locations

[mystic idol]

yup, shes a princess from Tang, but shes also represents in the game a lot of princesses during that era

[honest rain]

Also, don't forget to read her compendium and journal entries! Basically same deal as Wolf Maiden, interested player will find out

[upbeat oar]

Didn’t she married someone for something I can’t remember

[honest rain]

I think that's why they left her without a name other than Moongazing Maiden. She isn't a in-world character, but a combination of stories from the world that manifested into single person in the dreamworld

[upbeat oar]

I remember she is also part of the compromise thematic of Liangzhou

[honest rain]

She was sent to Liangzhou for political marriage

[upbeat oar]

Oh yeah so it was the basic stuff

[mystic idol]

based on the lore too she had an agreement with zhang yichao

but i forget the gist of it, i read it in chinese

[honest rain]

It's basic, but it's also important historic reference as a guy smarter than me discussed earlier #📖lore-chat message

[ripe sphinx]

I love the fact that we as player cant actually “hit” her. My sister said it might be gamedev try to tell us not to hit on women no matter how angry they are 😊

[upbeat oar]

Yeah don’t go into chapter 4 my guy

[honest rain]

You can hit like 7 other female bosses. You can't hit her, because she isn't actually there, she's at the bottom of the lake

[ripe sphinx]

I tot first the moon and girl looks a lot like chang er chinese lore

[upbeat oar]

I vaguely remembered about that
It’s just that I forgot if she was connected deeper with the rest of the stories in Hexi

[honest rain]

Not sure about the deer connections, I barely touched it yet

[ripe sphinx]

Yeah and also the music background sound epic and a bit melancholic for a battle

[upbeat oar]

I feel like Chang’e is more related to the moon paper

[ripe sphinx]

Oh i havent start moon paper, but i can handle spoilers :))

[upbeat oar]

I will not spoil

The story is to great

[mystic idol]

she is iirc

but i dont remember how, its prob in the journals and lore stuff

[upbeat oar]

But imo the end is really referring to that idea of leaving someone behind going to the moon for X reason

At least the depiction is here

[honest rain]

The moon here is pointer to Chang'an ("homeland" for some characters, a sort of "promised land" for others)

[ripe sphinx]

So trueee!! To bad i just exposed to lore and story when entering hexi (i buldozed my way from qinghe to kaifeng to catch up on leveling so skipp almost all story and lore there - barely know who uncle jiang and aunt han, only a bit about ruby)

[upbeat oar]

Missing on that one paper hidden in the hardest dungeon giving the biggest pic of information about the character you need to know something about

[upbeat oar]

I know the moon is home

[honest rain]

So it's not about going to the moon in western meaning, but a homeward path

[upbeat oar]

But ||lovers being separated with one being stuck one the moon, basically died, really refers to the myth of Chang’e imo||

The meaning isn’t the same for the story since Liangzhou and Hexi are based on the young master trying to find what is or where is home

But the way they showed it in this story in Liangzhou is visually similar

[ripe sphinx]

I hope the moderator will pinned this 🥹

[grim roost]

Heloo

[neon raptor]

Guys why my game running on dx12 and setting dlss on after restart the game dlss option is missing why ?

[ripe sphinx]

Uhm.. this is lore channel.. i think you can ask that on #🌱beginner-questions ?

[fleet kernel]

Is the 2nd new main story quest more like pov immersive mode and no combat/boss? Did the 1st one in the new area and am about to start the 2nd

[ripe sphinx]

Yes, and the story is amazing ☺️

[fleet kernel]

Okay great! The Hexi stories have been so good, I just have limited time today and would rather go through the whole thing in one go. I'll save it for later. Thanks!

[remote arrow]

has anyone started the new story line? how is it? i've been pushing it off because i don't want to wait so long till the next update but ughh

[tropic violet]

It's definitely worth it! Especially the lost chapters and the side quests for Liangzhou. Provides so much lore for Liangzhou and what Hexi's going through. I usually complete all the quests as soon as it comes out, to get the lore faster and so it wont just stack up on me later on.

[grim ember]

Hello everyone, I was scammed this week by someone I gave an outfit to. Now I've lost my Echo Bead. Would anyone be willing to give me an outfit? 🙂 plz tell me if this is not allowd to ask

[clever trout]

Girl I thought ||An Liuli|| survived 😭

||turns out she didn't and what we saw was her wish of having ability to anchor the moon with rope via magic to get up||

[clever trout]

Report scammer vro

[river kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/worried-scared-oh-no-stop-it-fearful-gif-12534009

[deep rivet]

That snake had me screaming. I knew about it from a video but when I personally experienced it. My heart skipped some beats

[river kiln]

I thought it was a statue at first then when I progress the quest it woke up 😭

[river kiln]

Same. It jumpscared me everytime lmao. Those segments were pretty fun tho. 🤣

It was my favorite part of the quest lol

[deep rivet]

The quests are very long and you must be patient. Make sure to have lots of time available to play

[river kiln]

I took some cool photos of the snake tho

[spare vigil]

guys what is the best way to see the whole story? i kinda got lost in the timeskips and even more with the names, not used to it

[glacial gulch]

have to said something to level up for looking for group

still got to said something and im saying something

[vague shoal]

lore videos on youtube is your best bet

[pulsar python]

Hi, I'm looking for a player, preferably 20+

[honest rain]

#looking-for-group or #looking-for-pvp can help more

[ocean wedge]

Sus

[mellow hinge]

Can ruby come back as a playable character in WWM2

[ocean wedge]

If you customize your character to look like her then you can.. if not then no
Lol

[mellow hinge]

She’s not dead. Aunt Han took her with her when she fled the battle 😝

[ocean wedge]

Sure sure... If that feeds your fantasy

[sonic iris]

[scenic obsidian]

The storyline is trash

Just completed the whole thing

Boss fight is either really freaking disgusting or really boring.

[mystic idol]

lol.

[humble grail]

honk

[iron canyon]

aynur's brother was the assassin, but he passed after the ordeal

[wraith sigil]

hmnmmmmm

they look really similar

[long umbra]

[iron canyon]

It does have similarities, but the moon here for the two girls are not only about home. LiuLi brought GuanYin freedom through the paper moon, and the charm "Let the moonlight shine upon the beholder." was originally used by taoist practitioners to ask for moonlight, but in the two girls' case, LiuLi wasn't asking for moonlight nor the Bodhisattava. From how LiuLi told GuanYin to think about her whenever she chant the charm, LiuLi herself became the one who bestow moonlight (can have multiple meanings here, freedom, hope, etc), and the one who truly practiced the core teachings of Buddism in her own way. The story about SanNiang and her husband was the total opposite of LiuLi to contrast her doings as well.

[iron canyon]

It's more like a way of her acheiveing "freedom", moongazing maiden was envious of Aynur, and would try to copy her dance moves, she saw her past self in Aynur (where she grew up with love). She wanted to do something for the folks (exp, encouraging them to write poems), despite missing her home (Chang'An), that's why she made the tower, hoping she could taste wine from her hometown again. As a princess, she shouldn't have "selfishness", and should sacrifive whatever she has for the nation, yet even she couldn't escape the fate of women (a political tool), nor find a way of living like GuanYin. The hairpin she discarded was a signal that she isn't going to submit to fate (by discarding her identity as a princess for political marriage). She made a bet with YiChao, seeing who could reclaim LiangZhou first, and was constantly collecting information even though she was imprisoned. Everything she did was to contribute to the nation, yet records about them were so less, some even burried. In the end, after YM beat her, she finally succeeded in her transformation, truly becoming free from those invisible shackles (her identity & inequality), along with all the women who was a sacrifice of political marriage.

[nimble flare]

i think they are the same person

[keen osprey]

hello guys

does anyone here knows how to get howlion endless 10kpoints+

[royal plover]

Just finish liangzou melody, is the girl real or his hallucinations?

, everything happen in the inn just a dream?

Why the girl keep calling herself immortal?

Why its matter if ppl was from changan or not?

Lian douzi and girl story end in this chapter?

[tiny frost]

I was really surprised by this one's voice because I dodged most of the CN spoilers lol

[frail skiff]

I don't get the people saying the storyline is trash. I started a couple days ago and was never bored or felt like skipping

[tiny frost]

they're not reading obviously

typical

[frail skiff]

Definitely because I also play a lot of the other big gacha games and WWM's presentation is better compared to some

[tiny frost]

The game really just hit us with a "||the real treasure is the friends we made along the way||" ahh quest

[tiny frost]

it is completely different, they innovated with a new formula for MMO games (not gacha games, that's different)

most mmo stories like black desert got boring storyline

[scenic obsidian]

The game play design is a total mess

The chapter of Hexi is pretty much torture to me except watching all the CG.

[frail skiff]

I haven't reached that part, yet, but I've seen some people complaining about it online and others favoring it. If anything, I just know the presentation is still going to be far better than some others games like Honkai Star Rail's Amphoreus arc. Their characters would just be standing still for minutes doing the same poses over and over and the camera angle is stagnant while they are yapping way too much

[scenic obsidian]

I don’t even play that game

This is the first ongoing operating game I have played in the past five years that is not a FPS.

So I do have pretty high standard on this game because I have spent over 1000 dollars on in game skins and other stuff.

But the production of Hexi is just no way match with Kaifeng and Qinghe

And the PVP maintenance on PS5 is really freaking bad.

I may have to spend another 1000 dollar on a good gaming PC to just make the PVP experience better.

[celest flume]

[scenic obsidian]

I am only 30 miles away from their North American Server, so internet is not the problem.

If the quality of the single player game play is sliding and the PVP is not a decent option, my times on this game gonna be tough.

I apologize If this sounds negative.

But as a history major enjoying digging in details the chapters of Hexi lack of the depth of Kaifeng and was trying to tell a story that is way too big than the content in this chapter can support and left a lot of wishiwashi characters and in game terms due to concern of censorship.

[iron canyon]

first pic xiao lian is lian er lang, the great grandfather of lian daozi (second pic)

[blazing oriole]

What if ||Ayuri|| was the friends we met along the way

[hazy light]

Well it is nice

||I wonder will we get to the part found Aunt and Uncle Jiang after Hexi||

||The mysterious girl did said complete Hexi will give us what we need||

Hexi is like history class but more fun

[tiny frost]

So Hexi is just the Young Master's stages of grief?

[upbeat oar]

Yeah

[mystic idol]

in terms of how it relates directly to YM yes

but its also more than that too

[frail skiff]

I'm sure they will try to improve on their story presentation after many criticism. Wuthering Waves is one example where they were heavily criticized in the beginning because of how bad and boring the story was. So Kuro Games (devs of Wuthering Waves) decided to put in 100% effort into the story and now I will argue that it's the best out of every gacha game currently based on their past few patches until now. I feel like the same can happen for Where Winds Meet. If a lot of people are criticizing the story presentation, then the devs no doubt will try to save their game by improving more on the story.

[hidden kelp]

Hexi feels like we are there to bear witness and remember the people and stories that were forgotten in a chaotic era. But idk still need to see Qinchuan act 3

[ocean geode]

I also thought about that!

[elfin stirrup]

ngl this new update is a snoozefest

the story makes no sesense

[crimson birch]

WuWa story quest feels like you're watching a movie sometimes Devs really did put in the work I agree. even if it's not at same level. hoping wwm story telling visuals will improve

[clever trout]

Lian daozi's grandfather is the kid burlap sack saved?

[iron canyon]

YM became the one who could witness everything, and bear their stories to pass it down to the next generations, much like folklore, ym is the physical representation of it

[sinful mural]

On the near ending part of Paper Moon

||When LiuLi was in the carriage, the people outside were talking about the An family flatbread, but was said that ChangAn was already gone. Did that mean that LiuLi herself didn't know that? Or it's just another layering thing in terms of timeline||

[scenic obsidian]

Not at the time.

Chang An was gone after the third phase, which is after the next chapter Qinchuan

We are currently in second phase

Chang An were burned at 904 AD

Chapter of Liangzhou is at 890 AD for the latest

[thick anchor]

Woow

[sinful mural]

Ahhh okok, still kinda messed up if say GuanYin was the one hearing those talk tho

[scenic obsidian]

So the entire chapter of Hexi stretch from 742 AD to 907 AD.

Jade Gate Pass is between 742 AD to 808 AD

Liangzhou is between 851 AD to 890 AD

Qinchuan is between 901 AD to 907AD

[sinful mural]

with their decision to bugger off together

[scenic obsidian]

So that’s why I said the content can’t support their ambitions.

[sinful mural]

like a plothole sort? I had the impression that ||LiuLi is again lying but this round about her homeland, which I thought was a better reason for her self-guilt with GuanYin getting blinded by her family. If the homeland no longer exists where the hell the 2 ladies are gonna head to||

[scenic obsidian]

So you know the governor Zhang Huaishen was the final quest of Liangzhou.

Zhang Huaishen died at 890 AD

It’s 14 years before the fire in Chang An

[upbeat oar]

||"If the homeland no longer exists where the hell the 2 ladies are gonna head to"||
in the end
||they are each other home, for them it isn't a place but someone||

[scenic obsidian]

I know the timeline is really messy in Hexi

But I believe my general timeline is correct

[upbeat oar]

I feel like it's because you are free to do X quests

except some ref to other characters it's hard to do a proper timeline yeah

[scenic obsidian]

Each chapter have very clear historical marks, so I can be sure on each timeframe

The first time mark is the death of General Guo Xin in Jade Gate Pass which happened at 808 AD, then Governor Zhang Huaishen died at 890 AD in Liangzhou, and the Chang An were burnt at 904 AD at last.

The reason why I made the time mark of Jade Gate Pass much earlier is because some of ethical group appear in history in a very broad historical range.

So we can’t be sure when Burlap’s story actually took place.

[honest rain]

With Kaifeng it might be that they went for a more general "hero's journey" type story because they knew they're coming back for Imperial palace chapter🤔 haven't seen much from there, but I do hope that they make good use of having the founder of dynasty as one of the characters on their roster

[grand jetty]

[wicked prawn]

Allu who are these mutuns supposed to represent?

[granite latch]

[atomic violet]

where do they get their oil

this lamp has and still being used for generations

[honest rain]

Real-world lamp was probably regularly refilled or even replaced if broken, but Hexi is a dreamworld, so it is more of a symbol than actual logically sound lamp

[sly bramble]

@scenic obsidian how/where from do you know everything? Atp you’re basically carrying the chat lol respect!

[scenic obsidian]

I was double majored in both sociology and Chinese history in college.

My thesis focused on peasant uprisings in ancient China.

Plus I do watch some analytical videos on Bilibili

Everything is my own opinion, feel free to have completely different interpretations

[sly bramble]

That’s amazing! So glad to have you here in chat

[trail trout]

How did guanyin lose her eyes

[lean magnet]

Damn you are really get the worth of your degree here

[sly bramble]

True! It counts here

[mystic idol]

Jade gate pass should be after though because when we reach fortress the general is already dead. We are there to fight his spirit and set him free

[lean magnet]

I still like the fact we get to meet the guy who help open the gate

[mystic idol]

although we could probably also make a reasonable guess using Xiaolian’s age (20) at the time of Jade Gate Pass/Burlap Sack quest and Lian Daozi (his grandson)

[hardy canopy]

hi

[mystic idol]

another good youtube resource/content creator that explains is this channel: youtube. com/channel/UClLkfmUFgRtERP66xkcVLnw?si=30t9Kqkatmoa7YLs

that being said, i think WWM girl has a really good analysis on the story and its relevance and connections, as well as meanings.

[crystal fable]

i'm stuck in a main quest where i have to chase An Liulu but i can't progress further it's with the lotus flower

[jade solar]

how do i play the game for orbs bro

[upbeat oar]

Make the 2 half fit

[upbeat oar]

You have to know balls

[vivid crypt]

guys#

on steam is it officila???

@everyone

[honest rain]

You should use #🌱beginner-questions or #💬martial-pavilion for questions like this

[upbeat oar]

bruh everyone

[north trench]

@scenic obsidian so do you know where they get their burning oil?

from animal?

[royal plover]

Didnt general zhang already dead, why other npc talk like he still alive

[mystic idol]

at what point?

if you mean overworld npcs, no -- not until after the campaign where youre in the other liangzhou map

[royal plover]

General zhang dead when we finish first chap of liangzou with lin daozi, but after that other npc talking like zhang still alive, they even say about young general zhang

[honest rain]

They don't change the dialogs, until you complete the jianghu legacy/campaign quest that changes the state of the map

[mystic idol]

lian daozi is happening in parallel with the campaign

what you see at the end of liangzhou melody happens at the same time as death of the governor campaign

[royal plover]

Okay thanks

[mystic idol]

but in overworld, the map is before that event happens

[royal plover]

How about blade awaits encounter?

[mystic idol]

you have to finish the death of the governor campaign and unlock the other state of the map to see liangzhou after these events

[mystic idol]

on this too, paper moon also happens at the same time

[mystic idol]

which one is blade awaits, zhang yichao?

zhang yichao's quest occurs prior to all this

[royal plover]

Side quest with veteran, and raging tide member, when u take blade on the ground

[mystic idol]

idt i did that one

[honest rain]

This quest is technically before/during the Liangzhou story

[royal plover]

How many zhang on this map, wtf

[royal plover]

Why at the end we put the blade back to the ground?

[honest rain]

"Zhang put it in, we should leave and let it be until Zhang, the owner of the sword, comes to pick it up"

As I said, this quest is technically before his death, so they ultimately decide to let it be as Zhang intended

[royal plover]

What in the world he left the sword there at first place

[honest rain]

As I understand, he left it so he can return it to his older relative who previously owned the sword — a hope that they'll return from being hostages in Chang'an to take up the blade again

[mystic idol]

zhang is one of the most common last names in china

[north trench]

who i forgot

oh Liangzhou place i am not there yet

[foggy horizon]

hmmmm

[safe ridge]

sry mate

[pure sonnet]

Hello to all lore fanatics yay

[tribal onyx]

Hello

[surreal citrus]

afternoon

[shell fable]

Hello to you too

[autumn heart]

[delicate sentinel]

[stark bison]

[formal robin]

[lilac fossil]

this death of a governor quest is just 2 hours of yapping?

[upbeat oar]

Lot of lore yeah

[lunar nexus]

Lot of lore yeah

[crystal fable]

where can i find wucan boss? i have done the second campaign in hexi "death of the governor"

[upbeat oar]

It should have been at the end iirc

Pretty sure Wucan was in the same quest as the eunuch

[radiant tendon]

walking stimulator and yapping

[sly bramble]

How do I get there?

[crystal fable]

wucan is the boss fight with 2 different health bars? in campaign challenge is he named after "The Five Banes"?

[elder marsh]

True, there's a lot of lore but it's super in-depth and I'm so impressed

[upbeat oar]

Yeah

[ripe sphinx]

May i ask where you find out that the assassin is aynur’ brother? (Just finished quest about aynur and her painfully-yet-awesome revenge toward murder of her family)

[foggy tiger]

That quest so good I just finish it earlier

Really showed how the mc never forgot his hatred too. All this time all this wandering, and still bearing vengeance in his heart

[ripe sphinx]

I was kinda confuse as to why there are sudden flashback.. but cant relate much as i skipped most of qinghe-kaifeng :((

[sacred current]

hexi is really cool being part of a dream allows even more magical stuff

[light saddle]

you guy try "arhat" encounter it really good and meaningful fr

[analog stone]

Death of the Governor quest.

[orchid urchin]

hexi stories are so fascinating

[mint spade]

Wish the pacing was better, but it was pretty much just back to back cutscenes and dialogue... Though I suppose there was way more than enough content to pace yourself

Do the quest, move on to explore the region, clear a few camps, do another quest, etc... but this be murika man, we ain't got them self discipline

[rigid totem]

Shops reset!

[desert hinge]

Meh

[balmy kite]

[forest anvil]

if you "pace" some of those long crazy quests, you end up having to restart from the beginning lol

[opal meteor]

even with x3 talk speed Death of the Governor still at least 25minute long if you want to get all anecdote

[royal plover]

Is guanying big figure name in liangzhou, outside main story?

[ocean wedge]

Damn

[dark galleon]

I'm a little lost with the Hexi story. Why are we wanting to go to Chang'an?

[lean magnet]

If I remember correctly from the Chinese history guy. Chang’an was the capital of the tang dynasty, making it a symbol of the power the empire at its height.

Even til now, there a phase smth akin to going back to the Tang and Han. Those dynasty can be considered china’s golden age.

I guess it’s was a wishing to go back when everything was great before everything fall apart

Please ask the history guy @scenic obsidian that man literally have a degree in this

[dark galleon]

Tysm for the response ♥

[ocean wedge]

[iron canyon]

it was roughly at the end, ||when the assassin (us) was talking with the blind monk, the blind monk mentioned a girl with odd eyed features, that's when he called out her name and knew she's still alive||

[iron canyon]

Chang'an not only is the capital of the tang dynasty, it can also mean home for everyone else, representing the peaceful life when Tang is at it's peak

[hazy light]

Where exactly is Blackwater city?

[gusty mango]

[royal plover]

Is changan already fallen in this update?

This chapter set 80 years after jade gate pass event right, so gouxin and anxi army already lose

[iron canyon]

at jade gate pass, chang'an is already at a state of chaos, basically on the verge of falling

[ornate atlas]

[hard hearth]

[ebon plaza]

Amazing story

[weak sigil]

[fierce pumice]

you cant kneel to the same boss 2 times?

how come the first time it works and second time it doesnt

[bold basin]

[grim roost]

[visual beacon]

where's my lore again

[peak shard]

guys how do i unlock death of governer quest?

[royal plover]

Which liangzhou quest do first in chronological order?

[remote inlet]

Dead

[iron canyon]

the recommendation is: homeward vow, bitter draught, two msq, death of governor then dasan pass

[bright cape]

Jar

[spare mural]

daily

[edgy anchor]

thanks!

[inland mulch]

Hello, I was told to ask here but if it's wrong please let me know 😭

So I think it was a few weeks ago I saw a cinematic/video that had brief flashes of characters and one of those was a ||maiden asleep against a rock.|| I've been looking for the video all over with no luck so I'd like to know what video it was or if anyone can tell me who she is. Thanks 🙏🏼

[celest flume]

Any more details?