📖lore-chat

[sudden ravine]

granny looks so out of it 😭

[nova vale]

B

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D

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[quick river]

good morning

where can i found Conect account on discord page ?

for social reward from game?

[peak perch]

#🎁game-account-binding ?

[peak perch]

Im 😭

[quick river]

thank you vm

[uncut silo]

i know Tian Ying "fakes his death to kill his identity" but be so fr, this guy is crushed by a massive boulder statue

and then is plunged into mysterious water

after 3 phases

what is this guy

[nova vale]

C

D

[iron canyon]

my monthly dose of sugar has completed by them

new maps = new stories but even the main chapter ended there's still a bunch of small quests like encounters and wandering tales even so you can reverse the quests now if you want to experience them again

[nova vale]

Aye

[iron canyon]

plus the devs are on 6G when it comes to memes, they would absolutely add those new ones during updates😭

[old minnow]

network notification. Connection to server failed. somebody have this problem?

[short crest]

Speaking of Granny.... Granny Turtle 🐢 🐢 🐢🥰

[short crest]

After the first part of the mission I read a sign post that said bro had no rizz and I was like true true and I wanted to just ignored it by the end of the story line I was in my feelings. 😭 🤦‍♂️ 😂

[dreamy aurora]

https://www.wherewindsmeetgame.com/m/202602/rlr/en/?shareCode=ea701948f3bfdb17ec853be82dfd1743 FOR THE EVENT PLEASE JOIN

[iron canyon]

you can give her some money after the quest🥹

[short crest]

reslly i didn't know that

Im going to have to find her and pay her

[twilit owl]

@snow topaz hi . You there?

[peak perch]

Wheatwind bazaar iirc
I didnt get to pay her cuz i thought she was gonna get mad 😭

[sudden shard]

What event is this?

Is this another horror dungeon in Kaifeng palace? https ://b23.tv/Pgol4P8

Note: don't watch it if your timezone is nighttime

[twilit owl]

@snow topaz love are u there. Can you talk to me now please

[acoustic storm]

In 'World' > Velvet Shade is 75% complete for me. What quests do I do to get 100%

[iron canyon]

she won't, she already sees us like her daughter/son just like yingying🥹

[iron canyon]

this is for the imperial palace ||(there's also a creepy new boss in there)||

[sudden shard]

The cold palace concubine?

[topaz belfry]

what is the Aureate Pavilion?
why do they have witches on payroll?
why did they burn down the town?

[proper orbit]

She's also loyal, altruistic (kite incident, Blissful Retreat rescue), inventive/resourceful (her legacy quest and how she found a way to lead the villagers out from Blissful Retreat), and will do anything for us (MC). You can't ask for a better little sister. Her Chinese voice is definitely different from the English one. In my opinion, the English voice does not even remotely convey the same positive vibes in the Chinese voice. To many people growing up in Chinese communities, her vibes are familiar, something you would expect from a bubbly, brilliant child, a presence that if taken away, would suddenly make a home feel cold and empty.

[tribal tapir]

Aureate pavillion if I remember correctly is faction under another country they basically infiltrate the place and act as a spy for them, they the ones behind the dream puppets we occasionally see and fight around the map

[tribal tapir]

As for the witch it's not known yet why she works for them.
They tryna hunt aunt han because they want something from her, it's the list of people she change faces to work as a spy send to enemy countries, so they burned the places down trying to find it

[acoustic storm]

The "One Leaf, One Life" is 4-5 hrs long. Yeeesh. Why is it so important? I love the storyline (one of the best) and I'm at Ph 2 with 2 collected....

[sudden shard]

Aureate pavilion is the organization that Li Zuo (the emperor Ai of Tang) created to fulfil his dream of restoring new Tang dynasty. He thoughts if every one has no desire, his new country will achieve "peace" hence he use the immortality worms from Gleaming abyss. Their base is in Southern Tang and cultivate dream puppet

[sudden shard]

Qianye (the witch)'s family is slaughtered by Aureate pavilion. She survives and missing her memories iirc, that's why she join them.

Aureate pavillion burn blissful retreat because they wants the spy list from aunt Han

[near tusk]

do all of the sects in the Chinese version of the game have a base like NMW?

[crimson birch]

is this really same person or did i misread???

oh dayum pops didn't know you had that in you

[viscid solstice]

Hello everyone, I’m Ania from the US. I’m a calm and easy-going person who focuses on discipline and improving my mindset. I’m interested in personal growth, financial awareness, and sharing ideas that help us grow. In my free time, I enjoy reading, playing football, and traveling to experience new places and cultures. I like learning from others and growing step by step. I’m happy to be here, and my DMs are open for respectful and positive conversations.

[vague shoal]

Not the same guy I think

[crimson birch]

really? is it a translation error then? i did see his abyss description and bio kinda matches with so i thought it was him

[vague shoal]

The guy went shirtless after shi shouxin gave up military power, not the man himself

He followed means he too gave up military power like shi shouxin in this case

[fluid quest]

yea, I guess it should be "he followed him into obscurity" and it'd be clearer

[crimson birch]

true i also also thought he meant shi shouxin himself not someone who followed him going along with shi shouxin

[iron canyon]

it's the unclarity of the translation that makes it confusing, they probably omitted it since both of them are men and using the same pronouns

[shut notch]

Hi everyone, does anyone know why i have stored XP when i didn't even reach the cap?

[tulip spoke]

is the guy on the mirage boat quest the prefect of kaifeng?

[crimson birch]

the guy named jin zhongyuan?

[tulip spoke]

yes

that guy

[crimson birch]

||yes that's his disguised identity||

[tulip spoke]

ahhhhhhhh okay

im doing the quest before going to kaifeng so im kind of wondering if it breaks the lore a bit

[honest rain]

I don't think MC recognized him, and other people (ex. Wen Wuhen) knowing him as someone important doesn't break anything

[tulip spoke]

Okay that’s good

[iron canyon]

tho i'm uncertain of the actual sequences of the quests (because in the quest winter gambit, ym knows he's big zhao's lil brother), so at this point I actually don't know whether ym knows everything or still thinks they are different ppl, plus i remember wuhen or myb someone else mentioning that there's somone spying on them, but they don't know who exactly the person is

[honest rain]

I think everything in Qinghe is pre-Kaifeng, because in-world traveling is much harder than in-game travel

[iron canyon]

that makes sense i wonder if ym actually did recognise or ym is just as face blind as us

[honest rain]

Unfortunately, atp the gilded chase is not available for replay, so I can't confirm nor deny... I remember there were conversations with Jin Zhongyuan, but I don't think YM called him out... but YM sometimes just chooses to not bother people, like when Jin Zhongyuan is out near Harmonic Span boundary stone in the middle of the day

[tulip spoke]

ym didnt call him out directly he spoke to him almost as if he was a stranger

kind of neutral which is probably the way its intended depending on when you do the quest

also old jin makes note of how he swindled you back at the generals shrine so the timeline for this quest would probably be before kaifeng

[viscid solstice]

Hello everyone, I’m Ania from the US. I’m a calm and easy-going person who focuses on discipline and improving my mindset. I’m interested in personal growth, financial awareness, and sharing ideas that help us grow. In my free time, I enjoy reading, playing football, and traveling to experience new places and cultures. I like learning from others and growing step by step. I’m happy to be here, and my DMs are open for respectful and positive conversations.

[scenic obsidian]

Remember WWM was originally a single player game trilogy , due to over budget for about three times. They parental company of the development studio decided to change it into an online multiple players game.

Qinghe were basically chapter 1 in the game.

Kaifeng supposed to be the chapter 2

And it complete the first game.

[honest rain]

Yeah, we are talking about a side-quest that happens in Qinghe but was released later, so many people played it after Kaifeng

[scenic obsidian]

For revenge, Aunt Han used to work for them and she escaped.

Tian Ying assisnated the Khitan’s ambassador to the Southern Kingdom(Aureate Pavilion’s asset) on the territory of the Southern Kingdom, which complete fractured the alliance between Khitan and South Kingdom, but he was trapped after that. Some sent a letter to Uncle Jiang and Uncle Jiang went down there and rescued Tian Ying which anger the Aureate Pavilion’s master Li Zuo(The white hair guy used the blue bug to revive the Void King in the opening scene)

Just so you know Tian Ying, Aunt Han and Uncle Jiang are working for the organization of Hanging Blades, which they aiming to defeat Khitan and reclaim the lost territory in the north.

So Khitan is in the north, Southern Kingdom. MC, Kaifeng, Qinghe are all in the middle. Khitan and Southern Kingdom were trying to eat us like a eating a sandwich.

Not literal sandwiches.

[tulip spoke]

anyone else notice the game having patches every few hours

it was 1.3.7 and now its 1.3.8

this dev team is active as hell

[tulip spoke]

i wonder if us going to jiangnan and finding uncle jiang would help our search for him

[scenic obsidian]

We will going to Southern kingdom(Jiangnan). I am afraid uncle Jiang have bigger mission than that.

Tian Ying was able to returned to Qinghe because Uncle Jiang rescued him.

He used our hand to create a fake death scene, so he can go undercover in Khitan.

[tulip spoke]

oh wait he also stole our pendant too

[scenic obsidian]

That pendant is a magical tool

We don’t know the actual power of it.

But every major figures are fighting and searching for that thing.

[tulip spoke]

which btw idk if anyone else had noticed this but the sword uncle jiang uses in both the jade pendant theft scene and in the dreamscape are different from in the beginning of the game it may be a longshot but im kind of hoping thats related to a possible new sword martial art we could see in the future

the sword we used is the same one uncle jiang once used

just a little detail ive noticed

[scenic obsidian]

We are using the coke zero version of the actual Nameless Sword and Spear

Uncle Jiang has the complete version

[tulip spoke]

i hope we get to actually learn that version

it would be cool asf to have the momentem of the tang dao but also the energy blades and precision of the nameless sword

[scenic obsidian]

Probably another year or two

[tulip spoke]

and maybe wide sweeping attacks for the nameless spear and maybe able to stun multiple targets at once instead of just one with the martial art skill

[tulip spoke]

im absolutely hyped for where the game goes in a year or two

[scenic obsidian]

U see we only have two martial skills apear on the screen

The are leaving the room for more martial skills

[tulip spoke]

;0

thats so cool like i mean besides the weapon switching skill we could have maybe two more

it could look like the mystic skill wheel we have

[ocean wedge]

💯

[little hawk]

What's the motto of the Nine Mortal Ways?

[shrewd badger]

Anybody built the jade palace in kung fu panda

[honest rain]

Take a look at #1448750662614782073

[barren citrus]

a

[peak perch]

[ocean wedge]

[north trench]

chat there is frog meat in wwm

[honest rain]

Does this imply thee are also... oh no... french?

[north trench]

what?! you mean French torture bird dish?!

this za frog meat

[hollow nexus]

Guys is story continuing ?

[woven sigil]

in March we start getting new regions with story, one a month through May

[peak perch]

That username is something else 😂

[iron canyon]

becauseif we arrange it according to the maps technically in glided chase it's the first time ym seen him, then in kaifeng, and the winter gambit/an unnatural omen (in the unnatural omen quest we got a jade pendant and if you gave it to the elder, i believe at this point ym knows who exactly he is)

[iron canyon]

i mean, 田鸡 (i don't know what it's called in english, but it's edible frog meat) is a pretty common ingredient in chinese dishes

[north trench]

wooo

[severe flare]

Is it just me or the the twisted fates quest where you meet uncle jiangs friend kinda half baked

[north trench]

what half baked mean

[severe flare]

Well for starters my femc was pretending to be uncle jiang to trick the old soldier despite still sounding like a girl lmao

[iron canyon]

it may be confusing (i had the same thought and had to search up an explanation) but it's explaining ||wang qing's death at the zhongdu bridge war||, and also revealing part of uncle jiang's past

[severe flare]

And the ending part feels all over the place like I missed another quest related to it

[royal plover]

What with the giant white deer near tiger fort?

[severe flare]

Hmm also is it ever explained if ||the god of avarice was an actual god or if he knew the coin making vessel was fake||

[royal plover]

I dont get it with the old man that saw wang qing become zombie, he tell the story like he have Alzheimer

[severe flare]

It's really sad how I binged through it so fast lol I thought they would have more main quests when I finished qinghe in December

[iron canyon]

to make it short wang qing is a highly respected general, he ran and jiang are two of the bunch of kids he raised, and he favours uncle jiang a lot, which he ran also felt jealous but never doubted his character. In the zhongdu bridge war, he ran was asked to deliver a box (containing toxins that can turn a person into a dream puppet, this is to squeeze up wang qing's value), he ran was oblivious and rushed to deliver it, despite wangqing knowing the contents of the box, he still opened the box. That's why his first death was in the battle, and in order to protect uncle jiang (knowing jiang wouldn't let him die like that), he sent jiang away from him. After jiang returned, he saw how wangqing has turned into a dream puppet, knowing wangqing well himself too, he ended wangqing's dream puppet form, and hid the fact that wangqing was infected with the dream puppet toxins, carrying the name of killing his adopted father.

[mental ermine]

frog tastes somewhat like chicken

[iron canyon]

the god of avarice is from the aureate pavilion (iirc the "god form" we saw is an illusion)

[north trench]

wooo i like chicken

surprise me there is no global people make a joke about Chinese eating frog in Chinese game you know human

[mental ermine]

I mean, chickens are smarter than frogs but noone bats an eye about eating chicken 😂

[north trench]

vegan do

KFC

[mental ermine]

[royal plover]

With the the old man that knew he ran who give the poison box?

[north trench]

chat how old is aunt han. han xiaojun

[royal plover]

14

[sudden shard]

Is he ran told by du zhongwei that the box contains "things that can turn the tides of battle"? how du zhongwei get the dream puppet toxin? I know that Li Zuo foretold Wang Qing's fate

[north trench]

oh i just search up other than that torture bird French dish. there is also frog French dish

maybe we need customer service that dedicated for answering lore question

context customer service. i really need YouTube to understand lore context better

[sudden shard]

Nah, we actually we can connect pieces by pieces, if you still remember the characters well by the time there is a random encounter/story/gossip

[sudden shard]

Wwm girl

[north trench]

yes i watch her

and other too

[sudden shard]

But i know that isn't enough, so i searched it more in game

[ocean wedge]

💯

[north trench]

i want customer service answering lore question

[ocean wedge]

Uhhh

[sudden shard]

I like the game not spoonfed us infos, asking us to explore if want to know more

[north trench]

hmmm i zeee

[north trench]

can you explain this then. who is the sender. must me translation problem.

wth lucky seventeen doing at revelry hall. i don't even think lucky seventeen can even write

[sudden shard]

The sender is shimmer of the south

Also known as Li Yu from Southern Tang

You'll know when you play the quest

[deep lion]

Wasn’t li yu aunt hans lover or smth like that?

[sudden shard]

What role he played on Kaifeng main quest

[sudden shard]

Nope, that was Chu Qingquan

[north trench]

so "BSi twelfth month lucky seventeen" is meaningful sentences rather than translation problem

[deep lion]

Ooooh i see

[north trench]

what that BSi even mean

[sudden shard]

It's a date

[north trench]

and what does that date mean

[sudden shard]

BSi is the chinese year, twelfth month means the 12th month of that year, and lucky seventeen is the 17th day

Actually, the keyword of "twelfth month" can be infer that is a date

[north trench]

woooo

[sudden shard]

I remember you asking this before

[north trench]

i heard Chinese calendar have leap month something there will be 13 month in year

[north trench]

i do

aunt han full name is han xiangxun

i wonder is there character in where wind meet that born during 13 lunar month

[plain plover]

hi

when will chapter 3 come out? can anyone let me know?

[woven sigil]

March 6th according to dev letter

[plain star]

*lunar calendar. Pls, there are countries using it other than China.
Yes, every 3 years there is a leap year in which it has 13 months. This year we have 2 June.

[north trench]

wooo. i know there is other countries use lunar calendar.

like islamic calendar use pure lunar calendar. the season changing when year come. the calendar doesn't follow season it follow moon strictly

[ocean wedge]

💯

[royal plover]

What lore behind snake doctor, why he even be world boss, he ezee😅

[tulip spoke]

Anyone else notice the general chat is gone?

[woven sigil]

his grandpa tried to cure him of snake venom with secret techniques but it turned him psycho

[finite atlas]

Are these stats good?

[peak perch]

Renamed to #💬martial-pavilion

[tulip spoke]

Ohhhh okay

[tulip spoke]

This game is amazing guys

[wheat tide]

agreed

great pics

[tulip spoke]

Thank you

I named him Haidun

The English translated Chinese name for Hayden

It means honest and ocean

[nova vale]

whats up

AYe

Basic skin

[tulip spoke]

I’ve found that the main character exploring a bit behind aunt hans back seems kind of accurate for how the story portrays him/her and so I’ve left most of the tian ying story discovery for after the fall of blissful retreat the mc is then searching for uncle Jiang which part of that search would be uncovering the story of tian ying

[tulip spoke]

Wdym basic?

[nova vale]

Dont mind me I

[tulip spoke]

Okay lol

[woven sigil]

"hey Aunt Han I'm home, I found a giant cave full of zombies and I think the Tang emperor found the secret of immortality there" "that's nice go wash the dishes"

[tulip spoke]

I actually did the gleaming abyss after escaping from yi dao since we are around wraith village during that part of the quest

[wheat tide]

naicu naicu

[tulip spoke]

So technically I couldn’t have done that cause aunt Han was gone

I did the 1-3 of the legacy quests before going back to blissful retreat as it kind of made sense cause they were all in that area and plus the character said they needed a change of scenery

[royal plover]

Whos his grandpa?

[tulip spoke]

I thought it was because the snake doctor was trying to find a cure for the sleeping puppet calamity after the eight talents disbanded and in trying to find the cure he went crazy because he was obsessed with it

That’s what the boss info says in the game

Plus I think he’s also the surgeon that operated on himself in a mirror that person mentioned him to us when doing the healer quest in mercy heart town

[woven sigil]

his grandpa's dead in the cave leading to him, you find his last words

his world boss entry says he fought with the Eight Talents but was already crazy at the time, and he went looking for Sun Buqi's research after

[tulip spoke]

Ohhhh

[woven sigil]

also the snake mask you get from him mentions he was bit in childhood

[tulip spoke]

I’ll have to read that once I fight the snake doctor again

[woven sigil]

for such a minor boss his lore is all over, in the Wandering Tale, the boss description, the grandpa's note

but yeah the cave where you find him is yet another of Sun Buqi's evil labs that he abandons everywhere to cause problems decades later

[sudden shard]

It seems sun buqi cause problem everywhere lol

[royal plover]

Didnt npc at rhe entrance of the cave is sun buqi relative too?

[royal plover]

What are 8 talent?

[tulip spoke]

8 talents of hendong (i may have butchered the spelling) but one of the talents is the guy that teaches you the meteor flight skill in qinghe

[sudden shard]

Qiu yuehai

The one who teach us celestial seize and skill theft veil of stillness

[tulip spoke]

Yeah him

He also teaches us meteor flight

[iron canyon]

with the trauma and stuff he probably doesn't remember

[royal plover]

Didnt mc just wondering around killing good guy, first tian ying and now snake doctor then sleeping daoist

[iron canyon]

actually I am uncertain who exactly gave the box, but yes duzhongwei betrayed them

[iron canyon]

mc were memed since we're always getting swept into a mess indirectly and just beat whoever has a hp bar🤣 but yeah we could see those as friendly fights or else we might really be whooped

[royal plover]

Duzhongwei is crazy old man i mantion before

?

[woven sigil]

DuWei is a real historical guy and huge traitor

everyone hated him so much a mob supposedly ate him after he was executed

[hidden kelp]

Local teenager once again picks fight with retired legends. Other news at 5.

[north trench]

ooo. but chat if you from manchu do you still hate DuWei

you know historical relative. like vlad the impaler considered evil ahh human but in Romania he is hero.
Mongol Genghis khan consider evil af but in Mongolia they praise him so much.

in UK Churchill considered hero in India he is villain

[north trench]

are you sure that the name

[woven sigil]

lol I just didnt wanna spell it

[north trench]

Shi Jingtang

[stiff token]

im devastated after the story quest in Qinghe

damn it

[tawdry ermine]

Who’s Tian Lang he’s very popular

I’m still in Qinghe

[haughty ice]

guys is there any way to get shadow sash blindfold. I want it so badly but the draw is gone

[nova vale]

you hurt

[gloomy sleet]

Hello. Is there any thing that we can do when we re afk? Like mining/fishing or something.

[gaunt spindle]

who was the traitor for roaring sands ?

[nova vale]

qinghe

flower hunt

[celest flume]

afk on mirage boat you auto get adventure slips and jade fishes unless youve reached limit

[gloomy sleet]

@celest flume at what time mirage boat opens?

[celest flume]

Idk

Btw this convo doesnt fit lore chat
Move to main general

[solid fulcrum]

Qianye is Aunt Han's twin sister? didn't she sacrifice herself to save Aunt Han when they were kids? Why did she become like this?

@outer ibex The Final Jianghu Legacy in Kaifeng 'Gambit Beneath the Shimmer' tells a story about two twin sisters, the sister who escaped is Aunt Han, so the other sister should be Qianye, given how identical they look...

[outer ibex]

Ohhhhhh

[vague shoal]

Qianye is likely to be the young master you see during the chess piece cutscene

[outer ibex]

So what about heartseeker

[vague shoal]

Also it was her twin brother

[solid fulcrum]

the story was about twin sisters

[river ridge]

Aunt Han (Han Xiangxun) and Qianye were born as twins into a desperate situation.

When they were children, a wealthy family (Lady Liang's family) needed a "human sacrifice" (specifically a heart/organ transplant match) to cure their sick daughter. The twins were bought/captured for this purpose.

One twin managed to escape and that was Aunt Han. The other twin stayed behind to stall the chasers so Han could get away. That twin was Qianye.

Because Qianye was left behind, she (or he, as some lore hints Qianye might originally be the brother forced into a female role/vessel) endured the experiments and the "Heart" transfer.

[vague shoal]

Im pretty sure qianye is the sadistic kid of that family who needed a transplant

[solid fulcrum]

what!? seriously?

[river ridge]

no bro this is facts

[vague shoal]

Yes, the twin brother was the one who pushed aunt han and he got turned into medicine to save qianye

They kinda fused together

[solid fulcrum]

but didn't the story mention twin sisters?

[vague shoal]

The brother looked like a girl so he was dressed as one

[river ridge]

@outer ibex
This is why Qianye is the "Heartseeker" boss.

She isn't just a random villain; she is obsessed with Aunt Han because she believes Han "stole" her life/freedom, or she wants her own heart back. When she says she wants to "become" Aunt Han or wear her face, it’s because they are literally two halves of the same broken destiny.

[vague shoal]

Aunt han made a grave, it was her brother's grave

[outer ibex]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[halcyon maple]

I missed when she said that, when did that happen?

[river ridge]

no bro, that girl died

they need a female body for the transplant to work, so they use poison to turn Qianye into a girl.

the girl from the Liang Family didn't survive because of how worse the condition was.

they keep Qianye as a Vessel, like a lab rat. Also as a weapon, Harvesting his blood and Qi.

[vague shoal]

So it's her twin brother but lost memories?

Feels like it's both in one body though. some personality disorder stuff

[solid fulcrum]

so, it was twin-brother turned sister?

[iron canyon]

iirc heartseeker is ym's inner demon (but why the inner demon is sharing a face w qianye there's no real explanation to it )

[river ridge]

no he didn't, he remembers everything, the time they escape where his choice to sacrifice himself but it marks to his memory as like a "Betrayal", also the torture, everything.

He hates Aunt Han because she is the living proof of the life he should have had if he hadn't saved her.

[vague shoal]

This isnt true, there's a copendium about qianye in the game

Qianye says she shares a familarity with aunt han but doesnt know why

[solid fulcrum]

Its in the copendium? under which section?

[vague shoal]

Just that she thought she was the most beautiful woman she's met, and she wants to destroy her

[solid fulcrum]

eh?

[vague shoal]

#📖lore-chat message

[mental ermine]

Proof?

[vague shoal]

Qianye knows who aunt han is, but why is there a sense of connection she doesnt know yet according to the copendium

[solid fulcrum]

is this mentioned in the global version?

[river ridge]

it's just like a living illusion, the girl is like the fake identity he was forced to live as.

[vague shoal]

Yes the copendium is in the game

[river ridge]

source: trust me bro

[solid fulcrum]

which section is it under? i want to read it

i mean, which section under copendium

thank you

[vague shoal]

ummm...what was it again

So many sections under copendium

[solid fulcrum]

true, lol

[iron canyon]

copendium -> poetry and tales -> special records

[vague shoal]

Rifght, poetry and tales

[vague shoal]

Some you have to go find stuff in the world to unlock too so it's not automatically there

[solid fulcrum]

aah, fair. thanks

[neat cedar]

anything wrong with the game? it crashes everu 10-15 seconds

Repair didn't fix it

[solid fulcrum]

which platform?

[neat cedar]

steam

[solid fulcrum]

idk. i play on steam, my game's been working fine.

did you try verifying files?

[neat cedar]

yes

[solid fulcrum]

oh

try seeing if anyone else had this issue in #1469158067278053499

[iron canyon]

but if that's the case, they would have made qianye recognize aunt han immediately no(? also aunt han has been better in martial arts than her twin, the siblings are close since they have a f up family, it's most likely that aunt han has been protecting her twin as much as she can (not to mention they were kids back then), in the backstory we saw, her twin is trying to protect her for once imo

[lost breach]

hi

[cinder holly]

Hey iam thinking about playing the game?

is it pay to win?

[vague shoal]

Completely no p2w, also go here if you wanna chat more about the game https://discord.com/channels/1180042348755963924/1180055163818483774

[cinder holly]

i saw a post on twitter how someone spent 28k for an reward outfit showcase and that got my attention thats why iam asking

[vague shoal]

https://discord.com/channels/1180042348755963924/1180042350190403646 my bad its this chat

[cinder holly]

thanks

[vague shoal]

Used to be general chat, ever since the name change it got confusing

[cinder holly]

yeah was looking for it

[vague shoal]

I dont think people go out of their way to spend for it, if you spent 28k usd from the start of the game in CN, you get that outfit for free

[cinder holly]

ah crazy

[vague shoal]

But if your like 25k 26k spent then maybe they go out of their way to spend the rest to get it

[jolly holly]

bruh just kiss already

[celest flume]

Ikr

[iron canyon]

I am absolutely cced by ||the latest main chapter of cn server||

[jolly holly]

nephew never gonna beat the allegations

[nova vale]

😆

[celest flume]

Smash

[grim stag]

dam nice

[peak perch]

:0

[crimson birch]

drop the artist name?

[crimson birch]

truly a sight to behold

[scenic obsidian]

check your DM

The channel doesn’t allow me to post link

search this in chinese

晋中原同人

You will find a lot of treasure

[hidden kelp]

It's not pay to win. It's pay to slay. The only thing you can buy are cosmetics so it just depends on your financial situation and self control, how much you want to spend to flex. It has zero impact on progression.

[severe flare]

is there a continuation after waiting 2 days to speak to zheng e?

he told me smth about apricot trees but seeing no markers on the map

(ever-normal granary)

[proud aspen]

You need to go to a village that has a house with apricot trees

Yes there is continuation

[hidden kelp]

It's unmarked like the wandering tales. There's a house in the village east of Kaifeng, you interact with a letter or something and then go back to Zheng E's house, there's another letter that concludes his story, he tells you where he's going next (Jiangnan).

[karmic hull]

I cant seem to log in to winds meet, stuck on the loading page. Anyone having this issue?

[neat cedar]

what happens after an inner way is tier 6? does it drop anymore?

[foggy tiger]

Yea still drop

[flat willow]

is there like a wiki somewhere with info we know on the characters? if not can someone info dump lucky seventeen to me….. if you want…👉👈

[honest rain]

Journal -> world -> characters helps a bit, but it doesn't have 100% info wiki-style but rather additional information. The current online wikis, unfortunately, are mostly focused on gameplay and walkthroughs rather than lore

[flat willow]

thank you!! this helps a lot, i js need the basics for a fanfic, idm not knowing intricacies‼️‼️

[honest rain]

Maybe you can ask for specific characters, there are def some people here who can lay out everything for you. Also, you can just search up the name/title in this chat to see if anyone had already talked about it (like unfated Tian is discussed once or twice every week)

[flat willow]

gotchu!! thanks again :3

[prisma sonnet]

how do others 100percent their exploration in the 2 maps/

[honest rain]

This trait has been the most useful as well as the lists for each area in journal->sentient beings

[prisma sonnet]

wow! You got acquired of those skills?

[sudden shard]

I just saw a video on youtube that we fought qianye again (idk how many times we fight in Bujianshan). ||Qianye refers to aunt Han as Han jiejie, and why does aunt Han takes her face 😭

For reference: https ://youtu.be/1nEFQyabEWU?si=yjQ9KJl67GuMRC0V ||

[honest rain]

You level up Perception and Elegance through casual gameplay, as well as some other traits (perception – oddities and archery, elegance – cat play and tasting dishes). You can see the data for your character in develop->details->exploration abilities & exploration skills

[iron canyon]

let's spoiler tag this there's too much info going on

[iron canyon]

if you want more content about him w ym you can search up 义主/主晋 even simply searching up his name will bring you a bunch of content

[gloomy flame]

honk honk!

[iron canyon]

copendium -> poetry and tales -> special records also reveals info about certain characters but you would need to collect the letters/works when exploring

[bleak locust]

how to do this

[iron canyon]

*not the right place to ask * but go to wandering paths -> heroes realm (10 person raid)/sword trials (5 person raid) and choose the latest ones

[bleak locust]

thus?

still not success

[iron canyon]

have you gone through both bosses and claimed both rewards?

[wicked prawn]

You should ask here #🌱beginner-questions

[peak perch]

Omg i need that emote 😭 (even tho i have the pic)

[wicked prawn]

hunkdao supremacy hahaha

[peak perch]

😩

[viscid egret]

I need discussions of this.

[north trench]

oh my. they teach Kaifeng accent with English accent

i wonder what original Chinese word that equivalent to English pin pen is

[tribal tapir]

Oh yee I saw that apparently || Remember the quest with the shimmer in where he is retelling aunt Hans' past with us, well Qianye is the sick girl of the family that aunt han and her twin bro got sold to. Well she calls her Jiejie because she have the heart of aunt Hans' twin brother implanted in her, Han took qianyes face so she could impersonate her and infiltrate Aureate Pavillion don't know if qianyes still alive though after han stabbed her, the scene cut off after that||

[vague shoal]

||classic heart is at the opposite side so character miraculously survive lol. Need to learn the lesson from thor, always go for the head||

[tribal tapir]

Well dam || Guess there will be another encounter with qianye nother time. another showdown againnn, aunt han should really offed for good so we won't have any problem in the future. ||

[iron canyon]

||pretty sure qianye is still alive, doubt she would be offed that easily, just my personal thoughts but i also think qianye couldn't be fully human atp ||

[iron canyon]

||also after i rewatched the part, han already turned away after taking qianye's face, only turning back to stab qianye after qianye said how ym would take out their sword if ym saw this face, as someone who is extremly cautious, why wouldn't han just off qianye knowing qianye is a huge threat to ym||

[tribal tapir]

I'm also asking the same question

[iron canyon]

||There's speculations of the mysterious person in the end is sunbuqi (who once helped lizhuo and was a sn disciple), and also jiang has been investigating about the dream puppets, the 冻死骨(I can't think of how to translate this into english) could be a successful/advanced version of the current dream puppet. A possibility (slight but not impossible) is that han might want to infiltrate hollow vale to get info (and possibly know abt what happened to her brother). Another is that they both have a deal (qianye really sounds crazily obsessed in a way w han, who knows if qianye might actually agree with a deal)|| my brain is certainly racing with thoughts after those scenes

[fluid quest]

Idk if anyone who speaks Chinese could answer a question for me:
So, in sects disciples call each other Shixiong, Shidi, Shimei, Shijie. And for groups you end up with Shidimei and Shixiongjie (I think).
I have no idea how
martial brothers and sisters as a whole is said (so feel free to tell me).
But. All that to ask, what words would be used for a non-binary disciple?
And while I'm at it, same question for terms like "dage", "meimei", "-di", etc? What would be used for a NB character?
(I know this doesn't exactly fit the "lore" topic but it's lore adjacent I guess? XD we don't have a "Mandarin vocabulary" channel as far as I know)

[tribal tapir]

I'm not a native speaker but have a bit of knowledge if you put like that I think there's a non binary way to address a martial siblings from the same sect I'm not quite sure , but the closest from it is probably Tóngmén (同门) which means from the same teacher, sect, etc. as that is the most gender neutral you can address someone. Someone correct me if I'm wrong

Or if you wanna address it as a whole you basically combining it Shī xiōng dì jiě mèi literally addressing it all in one sentence

[iron canyon]

shixiong shidi etc are pretty much commonly used as long as there is a mentor, and they have disciples (in martial arts its the same, usually there's a master/mentor, 同门 is more like a general addression, for example if someone is introducing their sect to others, but rarely you'd use it as a special noun in a sense to call someone else), dage, meimei is more like a common form of addression that is appropriate at all times, as for non binary ones, that prolly depends on the person themselves, mostly just tell the others how they prefer others addressing them

[tribal tapir]

Cover all gender in one tittle

[fluid quest]

That'd be.... Super long xD

[fluid quest]

So there isn't a neutral term?
I mean, example with the name Shen, Shen-di (younger man), Shen-jie (older woman), Shen-??? (For NB, older and another for younger)

[tribal tapir]

Oh daymm if that's really him he be showing him self now of all times after creating that atrocity dream puppet and abandoning it when all things gone wrong

[iron canyon]

同门弟子(tongmendizi) would be the best since dizi means disciples in general

[fluid quest]

So... As a suffix would just "-tongmen" work? Like... Shen-tongmen? (To replace -shixiong, -shimei, etc)

[iron canyon]

i mean for older people you can call them as if shenlao(老, means old and can be general), for neutral terms i don't think there's really one, so the safest would be calling the name/ask the person, but tongmen isn't really used with the suffix so usually a convo will go like we're tongmendizi under xxx, or shen's (弟子)dizi

[iron canyon]

||and since the dream puppet incident is happening currently, the possibility is actually there too||

[fluid quest]

Okay thanks for your answer 😄
I know it's mostly hypothetical and tbh I ask for writing purposes more than anything else. (Ya kno, fanfic reasons etc.) But also because I'm NB myself and find different languages approach to this interesting.

[iron canyon]

it's all good and that's the charm of languages

[tribal tapir]

|| wait a minute If there is the possibility that that guy is sun buqi did he really achieve his goal of immortality considering that is the reason or one of the reason he even created that gu that turn people into the dream puppet, didn't that happened like centuries ago how old is that guy or I'm messing up the timeline ||

[iron canyon]

||i think it's pretty recent (not up to centuries for sure, dream puppet is used in 946 at zhongdu bridge war, and since sunbuqi collaborated w lizhuo, it should be around that time that dream puppet is a thing), and I would like to think that the gu on it's final testing state, qianye is aware of the gu + the mysterious person's words is 我还以为终于可以给你用冻死骨了 (i thought [i] can finally use it on you/let you use it), indicating that the person has prepared it for quite some time and is waiting for the moment, then qianye replied 看来要让你失望了 (looks like i'm going to dissapoint you) also indicates that to use the gu there are conditions that need to be met||

[tribal tapir]

|| I get it now I went back from some of my save info and apparently dream puppet or the frost fungus puppet, of it already existed around 761 CE followed by the creation of Hollow vale, and sun buqi only rediscovered the gu believing that's it's the answers to immortality around the tale end of tang dynasty which is 900 Something CE years before the creation of Aureate pavillion, and we are currently in the 10th Century in the game. I found that info from the introduction of Lizhou ||

[honest rain]

Current sectmasters of HV and RT are said to have fought against Dream Puppet Calamity, and Jiang Meiyan (HV leader) seems to be somewhat young, so it's reasonable to assume it happened something like 20years ago (and probably got overshadowed in many people's memories by Khitan 15years ago)

[tribal tapir]

All this lore is giving me a headache lol

[honest rain]

Said sect masters... Shi Jiuge's age is hard to determine, but Jiang Meiyan could easily be in his late 30s-40s, getting reputation in late teens-early 20s isn't out of the realm of possibility in Jianghu (just look at Young Master and Zheng E)

[tribal tapir]

Well Hollow vale consist of people afflicted with the puppet poison and Jiang meiyan is probably not the very first master of that sect. So it's very well assume that ye the puppets existed centuries ago wayyy longer than sun buqi and li Zhou at least.

[honest rain]

Probably, but as far as I understand Dream Puppet Calamity referrs specifically to the event of Sun Buqi unleashing his creations on the wider world

[tulip spoke]

||gang this looks cool as frick https: //youtube.com/clip/UgkxQg3MXV4KsOCNfDzMTeTYG-t8FTiYd7Ml?si=dQ_COgUPb3nAxmWM||

[iron canyon]

the hard part is everything is not condensed at one place and scattered everywhere

[iron canyon]

mhm, and i think the researches prolly got banned/stopped in the middle until recently it was dug up again

[honest rain]

(Ignore the second red line, they were made for different conversation), so apparently the sickness was somewhat subdued until Sun Buqi "revived" it

Probably same as with Dawn-to-Dusk, he did some bio.chem mods to make it 10× more potent and evil

[iron canyon]

this is related to sn lore (i'll try my best to convey) master shuiyue, the one who created the sect (at that time, they do not offer healing for a "price") has two disciples (sun buqi & sun yuan), sunbuqi is obsessed with the highest level of medicinal knowledge, and he found the dawn to dusk flowers, tho his lab was destroyed by master shuiyue after, so sunbuqi escaped and continued his researches (which is in the pic you showed). the latter sunyuan, witnessed humanity's truth and started to doubt shuiyue's philosophy, which is why the rule "one life, one price" is made, that is to protect sn doctors themselves too. Despite sun yuan have been researching about the daw to dusk flowers for long, she disappeared leaving those pprs. Sunbuqi is pretty much like mad scientist, he basiaclly used the dawn to dusk flowers to spice up his researches

[honest rain]

That's. That's perfect illustration of doctor of medicine VS medical researcher. "Spice up his research" is such a way to put it

[iron canyon]

actually... there's a 21 minute video about sunbuqi (and his story is tied back to gleaming abyss since after shuiyue destroyed his lab, he escaped to qinghe, liuqingyi, those weird stone statues, the longevity fruit used to free the deer, all is related to him)

[honest rain]

You can't just say there's a video and don't share the link

[iron canyon]

https: //v.douyin.com/oSywAzUQcx0/ this video was released before hexi even came out on cn so if hexi has more details on this it's not inside

[gloomy flame]

honk honk!

[iron canyon]

there's a saying 是药三分毒 (medicine can be poison literally) if used right poison can actually save people rather than cause deaths/sickness

[honest rain]

In my region, there's a saying "everything is medicine and everything is poison" (I guess some things are so universal, everyone has a way to describe it, huh), so the concept is reasonable, but then there's everything else Sun Buqi did

[iron canyon]

it's actually crazy how much details there is sunbuqi has some parallels w sunyuan but their ultimate goals are different. Sunbuqi is the kind that is willing to go extremes just to satisfy his questions/curiousity.

[honest rain]

My wild theory is that they are siblings, two different takes on same upbringing, but I think if it was true we'd already know something about it

[iron canyon]

they were under master shuiyue together after all, and things only went south even more after shuiyue died. If only sunyuan and the others (zhu yu, zheng e etc) had more time, (sunyuan and sunbuqi are said to be talented geniuses ans shuiyue favoured them a lot), they might actually be able to break down and found a cure

[honest rain]

I mean, yeah, the similarities could totally be explained by same teacher, but also two prodigies in healing and medicine appearing at/around same time, under same master, with same surname, one "kind" and the other "evil" gives me strong vibes of "two kids from family with generations of doctors". But as I said, it's a wild theory, so I'm not putting much weight to it

I also wish Mistveil forest team had more time😭😭😭

Also, I'm sure Sun Buqi would love to have little mould spore Zheng E on his cutting table, whatever this guy is doing with Dawn-to-Dusk dusk is incredible. The mere fact that he survived 12+ years with it is such an outlier

[iron canyon]

At first when he researched the dawn to dusk flowers, he hasn't been that obsessed yet because it was a failed experiment. It was only after he heard about immortality at qinghe, and also found bawu's biography that he also learnt about the immortality insect(? the original was worm tho, and the "key" of immortality lies on the survival of the insect, with the side effect of the host losing their memories and emotions, but he's too obsessed to turn back atp, he spread rumors at the village for lab rats literally). Liuqingyi was his key. Back then zhuwen sent sunbuqi to poison lizhuo, but the one drinking the alcohol was liuqingyi who disguised as lizhuo, which he found out that liuqingyi's poision endurance. He only captured her some time after (literally feeding her poision everyday but she slowly lost her sanity). It was lizhuo who found her at gleaming abyss and plead shuiyue to help.

[honest rain]

Worms, turning to insects to [make evil magic happen]... if I had a nickel every time it happened in chinese story, I'd have two nickles. It's not much, but it makes me wonder if it's a common trope or is there an erha fan on WWM team [probably both]

[iron canyon]

zheng e is also quite young and the fact that he someone used it as his own powers is quite impressive too

[gloomy flame]

honk honk!

[iron canyon]

it's like they learnt what exactly the world is in a hard way, but the general sayings are geniuses are usually crazy in a way, and sunbuqi is exactly the case

[honest rain]

Honestly, I feel like if he didn't fall into his mental health crisis, he'd be such a great addition to SN, he already got work experience and teacher, and their fan martial arts.......

The edge case between SN and MB

[iron canyon]

sn disciples are somehow experiencing all sorts of things despite being the doctors, they were dealing with human life for their life but what about themselves

[honest rain]

Sometimes you read about the sects and have to step back and think are they even taking care of themselves...... NMW, SN and MB, I'm looking at you

[trail verge]

Is my queen ying ying really a guy 💀

[viscid frost]

💀

[trail verge]

Is it true 💀

[gray oar]

She cosplayed a guy

[viscid frost]

Well 😏😅

[trail verge]

Ohh nah

[trail verge]

Ohh thank god 🙏

[honest rain]

More likely evil mistranslation machine strikes again

[iron canyon]

precisely because they have experienced too much casualities and understand too much that made them even more determined (till they forget about themselves🥹 )

[trail verge]

Nah I thought she was a girl but a mod told me it's a guy 😭

[iron canyon]

think of it in another way, yingying was convincing enough XD

[viscid frost]

😂🤣

[honest rain]

But I'm leaning towards mistranslation, journal entries use she/her for Wen Wuque

Or plain misconception, as many people would see "Lord" in Main Story and think "man"

I'm p sure in Main Story there are very few pronouns used towards her in-story, and Ember of East is a non-descript title, so Lord could be the first gendered thing in the way plot talks about her

[iron canyon]

they were referring to the same person afterall *and it's true *plus back then certain addressions can be used for both male and female

[gray oar]

well... the lore in chinese so far says shes a girl so...

[honest rain]

I doubt that 公子 is one of those "applicable to both" terms, but you're right

[trail verge]

Can someone explain this in simple terms non lore players can understand

[honest rain]

But I think Wen Wuque is very intentional with using it instead of 女公子

[iron canyon]

also since we're talking about addressions like this I wanna mention about the slight loss in translation back then when we first went to find aunt han, and the customers were calling her miss han but han went it's madam for you. The original was them calling 老板娘 and aunt han corrected them by saying 叫什么老板娘，叫老板 (laoban means boxx, and although laobanniang is for female back then it's usually referring to the boss' wife + it's male dominated back then)

[honest rain]

Yingying is a woman, playing a very political game

[trail verge]

@dim belfry

See she female

I can continue to simp

[dim belfry]

🤣

ok ok

[trail verge]

[honest rain]

She really went "it's not bosslady, it's boss" on them😭😭😭

[iron canyon]

mhm you are right, but since sh'es disguising as a man 公子 will be more appropriate for her position prolly not many people even know she's actually a girl

[gloomy flame]

honk honk!

[vague granite]

We can't really trust the translations

[honest rain]

The more I look to check the translations, the more clunky the english text becomes😭

[dim belfry]

I think, since the game never really revealed Ember of the East's sex, we don't know for sure if it is a He, Ember of the East, who played a girl so good, or it's a girl all the way.
So yeah, You can still simp, but be careful

[vague granite]

I used to do proof reading for Manhwas and such. The best tip I can provide is to read the raw source, translate it and look at the scenes for context.

[honest rain]

The most recent finding of mine is Masked Troupe. You know why their uniform is light-orange? Because it's Pear Opera, and refers to real Liyuan that operated under some emperor

[trail verge]

Mmm 🤔 as long I see girl it a girl I trust my eyes more

Than ai translation

[dim belfry]

They're also referenced quite a lot in the game Path of Wuxia as Butterfly Troupe

[vague granite]

Read the original Chinese text, translate it yourself and then watch the cutscenes for context

[trail verge]

I can't read Chinese

[honest rain]

You can also read journal and see a pretty clear reveal

[vague granite]

That's one of the biggest problems

[trail verge]

Soo I'm supposed to learn a whole new language just for one scene 😭

[vague granite]

I'll probably start learning Chinese just so that I can read the raw source

[trail verge]

[vague granite]

Yep

[honest rain]

We should start reading club to go through original texts, at least it's more fun in the company😂

[vague granite]

I agree

[honest rain]

Who's up for the reading club? I'll make a sever in the evening, if a few people like the idea

[vague granite]

We should ask the Mods if we can start our own little lore club here so we can have a little Chinese learning session while piecing the lore together

[dim belfry]

there's a character's portrait from it.
So yeah, I assume such thing really existed at some point in their history

[dim belfry]

you can always talk about it here (when discussing lore) and in the off-topic chat (when discussing chinese and lessons)

[trail verge]

Just make a VC

[honest rain]

That's just Beijin opera performer.... give me a sec, I'll pull up the specific one I mentioned

[junior osprey]

guys lore wise who is the strongest character in the global version?

[honest rain]

@dim belfry THE liyuan. Masked Troupe uses literally same characters in cn.text

[junior osprey]

i think tian ying is a candidate because of all the talk about him in quinghe

[honest rain]

I put my bet on Sun Buqi for the sheer number of tragedies his medical interest caused

Wangran and Frost immortal are up there too

[dim belfry]

oh, so they're like...very new, since they were founded in the Tang dynasty, ruling of which just ended (in the in-game timeframe)

[honest rain]

They're about ~200yo in-game, give me a sec

[dim belfry]

yeah, that checks

[sudden shard]

I'm not that good at reading and writing chinese, but good at listening. Only knows basic chinese That's why i'm opted to search for gameplay that won't skip cutscenes and fast forward dialogues

[honest rain]

Midnight blades are about 150yo for comparison, so I'd say Masked Troupe is about mid age for a sect

[honest rain]

They went into seclusion during/shortly after An Lushan with 2nd Troupe master, putting them just slightly above 200yo by the time Main Story year 962 arrives

[dim belfry]

hey, that's good

it was a clever move I'd say

[honest rain]

? Going into seclusion?

[dim belfry]

yes

[honest rain]

To each their own, I guess

[dim belfry]

yeah, fair.
But I mean, if she didn't - she'd be asked/forced to pick a side. And that didn't look good

[honest rain]

Look at current Velvet Shade master, she straight up sung "the general will take the throne"

I guess MT vs VS depiction is very good illustration for self-isolated apolitical polished-type art and "art is politics"-type art

[dim belfry]

yes, MT vs VS is done in multiple levels as well, like how the MT aren't allowed to be seen with their partners and VS being paparazzi hunting for the drama...they're naturally put on the opposite

[honest rain]

Considering current MT sect master is allegedly a runaway prince, it puts them at even better comparison. A royal that left and isolated to pursue art, and an artist that worked her way to work with emperor and court

[honest rain]

Also, game files alledge, that there's a very personal feud between current sect masters🫢🫢🫢

[dim belfry]

ohhh 😁

[honest rain]

Ngl, they should drop diss tracks on each other, but Hu Changyi is too posh to get dirty like that🙄

[dim belfry]

ye, it would be a step downwards

[iron canyon]

i'm definitely down for it even tho my ancient chinese sucks

[wise kelp]

if this game is truly xianxia then there should be an end goal to challenge the heavenly dao

or is it just a little bit of wuxia and a little bit of xianxia

[honest rain]

It's wuxia

[wise kelp]

ok so there should be like a 5 great families or 10 clans typa thing

[honest rain]

We already got a glimpse of it in Kaifeng with Wen family of Weiyang, Zhao family, River Master's family, 4 generals etc, it's only up from here

[open zealot]

does that mean there a clan or great family that could possibly have a mythical dragon as their guardian?

[honest rain]

I direct you to River's fury quest....

[open zealot]

the fish from journey to the west?

[honest rain]

I'm not spoiling anything, but Dragon Hall was called that for A Reason

[wise kelp]

its like the emperor of the dynasties having guardians of the nation

[open zealot]

let me guess a dragon is sleeping underground

[honest rain]

No spoilers, go play the game!!!

[wise kelp]

very nice thing to add now imagine that we could actually get government positions

[near tusk]

ask, who has cn acc or any idea if all of the sects will have a base like the nine mortals ways and velvet shade or NMW and Velvet shade is the only sect that has a base? Thankyou

[honest rain]

I think that'd go against ()-xia direction of the story. Also, Main Quest took barely a few months, YM is still a 16yo. He doesn't need all'at bureaucratic hell

[wise kelp]

i know its going to take a lot of time to fully add in the provinces of china in game but there should be like a live event like sometime in the future where we fight invading forces

[honest rain]

Be patient, all of them are on the way

[wise kelp]

true dat

[near tusk]

I heard that will happen in Kaifeng Palace Arc

[honest rain]

If YM wants to influence politics, he can just go bat his lashes at Zhao brothers, I'm sure they aren't going to say no to him😂

[open zealot]

it a god damn fish that ain't no dragon

[honest rain]

Keep playing. Reach the bottom of this.

[open zealot]

[honest rain]

[mental ermine]

Aristocracy is dead by the end of 5d10k. Deck of cards got shuffled too many times

[sudden shard]

The bones in the coffin is the dragon ancestor iirc

[tribal tapir]

They will eventually cause i heard that another new upcoming map (Jiangnan) in Chinese server is gonna be the homebase of inkbound order

[honest rain]

The dragon is so in the coffin, ||it's visible on the map||

[sudden shard]

The divination said i should join inkbound order 🤣 can't wait to see it

[tribal tapir]

Well it's the upcoming new map in Chinese server but in global it will take at least a year for us to get that or less depending on the update time of the global version

[vague granite]

Globul will get it faster since they'll crunch up many contents into a single update unlike in the CN version

[tribal tapir]

Hope soo🤞🏻 I can't wait for them updates to come faster

[wise kelp]

WE are all joining the mo sect to create new weapons 😂✌️

[vague granite]

Nah mate, I'm joining Inkbound to be a corrupt politician

[tulip spoke]

yeah we are getting it around december i think which like hell yeah

[halcyon tusk]

so basically I want the donkey mount, and that's the whole basis of the story anyway, the whole end game and end goal is to get Badoory the donkey mount yk?

[hidden kelp]

"dose makes the poison" is the expression in English

[hidden kelp]

I simp either way

[radiant shadow]

Hello Guys i have a question. Does anyone have info about the special energy event if the weekly boss count in this event too thank u

[hidden kelp]

What do you mean? Like Hero Realm? Hero Realm doesn't consume energy so I don't think it would count.

[tender spear]

So whats the lore behind shrinking?

[mystic idol]

anyone here caught up to the campaign quest for zhongdu bridge

[prisma sonnet]

morning y'all

[alpine path]

You can use #🌱beginner-questions for that, as this is lore related discussion

[iron elbow]

my backs sore because i keep pooping in my cats litter tray

[celest flume]

There is?

[uncut plover]

NPC chat bot "Tan Xiangchen" just said to me

(Disney Clinton, a playful grin) Indeed! When faced with temptation, boldly say: "Bring it on!" Life is too short to deny ourselves the small joys, don't you think?
... So I'm wondering.... Is this meant to be an emote or can we assume disney is now canon

[celest flume]

What

[honest rain]

Evil translation machine strikes again

It is pretty much known that they used AI to translate large parts of english text, so a mishaps like this are unlikely but not impossible

[uncut plover]

its so weird but yeah gotcha, i didn't realise it would be due to a translation issue of all things

[honest rain]

NPC chat bots are also AI, so it might be an issue on their filters as well. Not sure if they use eng-eng chatbots or eng-cn-eng or smth else

[hidden kelp]

Switch your language to simplified Chinese and see if it also says Disney

[woven sigil]

Lot of those bots make nickname jokes that had to be translated from Chinese and they just turned them into really corny references

"call me Spill Gates cause I spilled the wine" level of lame pun

[sudden shard]

Yes, for ||fighting khitan leader iirc, after finishing zhongdu defensive scene||

[iron canyon]

i saw some cutscenes of it but i couldn't bring myself to watch everything

[celest flume]

What quest is it?
How come I don't recognize

[iron canyon]

it's a new quest at cn basically us experiencing the war once again

[celest flume]

Oh so it's not in the global sv?

[iron canyon]

those are future content 💯

[iron canyon]

after all ym's now a wanderer, even if ym might indirectly aid stuff in politics, ym's role isn't that (plus governmental stuff isn't simple and has to be trained)

[honest rain]

I wonder how Zheng E is doing now that he has to be an important government official with 0 experience😂

[iron canyon]

iirc he came from a good family and since his father has always been openining up their own granary to help the folks + when he's following zhuyu i believe he's also exposed to governmental stuff in the meantime, pretty sure when he's young his family would have taught him one or two also

[honest rain]

Yeah, but "he picked up as he grew up around important people" can only bring him so far. Zheng E has experience as a swordsman and medical researcher, while Shen Yilun likely went through Academiya and rigorous Imperial Exam, as well as showed outstanding performance on previous positions to become Master of Grain in early-mid 20s. I believe in Zheng E, but I wish we knew how he is dealing with the experience gap

[iron canyon]

zheng e went and met shenyilun from the academy, ig this scope of the position won't require him to be involved in much conflicts in a sense, but with his talents i suppose he could pick things up really fast

[sudden shard]

I'm literally crying😭

[scarlet yarrow]

anyone playing cn? is yidao's sword skill a mystic art?

[iron canyon]

idt it is, it's his fighting style (if it really a mystic art they would have let us learn it like tianying's/yewanshan's)

[scarlet yarrow]

i saw mc in cn server finished off a boss with the embiggened sword yi dao uses. or maybe it's just scripted for poetic purpose?

[iron canyon]

ohhh i know what you mean now|| (it's scripted specially because we were taking revenge)||

[jolly holly]

guess who's back? oh, you're already talking about it

[topaz belfry]

so if i understand the Kaifeng story correctly:

||the Gold-Making Vessel does not exist - it's a trick to give hope||
||the Fu Lu Shou sisters are the Dao Lord and are in on it||
||Yingying really is the Ember of East, and she's in on it as well||
||Velvet Shade is also in on it||

right?

[iron canyon]

Yes, in fact this whole scheme is from yingying herself in order to force song open their treasury, fulushou sisters are only representing as the dao lord, they were the daughters of 9MW sect leader that passed

[topaz belfry]

i see

and the Dao Lord is the leader of the Nine Mortal Ways

[devout kayak]

Can someone playing CN, please spoil me about what happened to ||Yan's brother in the mohist quest? Is he still alive?||

[tulip spoke]

||The mc also used moves that looked like they were from strategic sword but if the martial art style is their own and a mix of what uncle Jiang taught us (nameless sword) does that maybe confirm that we use both nameless and strategic sword or nameless sword is an offshoot of strategic sword that uncle Jiang modified?||

[iron canyon]

||Yan's brother got transformed into 司南剑客 (i can't think of a way to translate this, but he's pretty much a mechanic form like you see), qianye found him after, so i guess he got taken away to "repair", idt he's dead||

[iron canyon]

||from what we know we actually aren't using jiang's sowrd style fully yet (in game), but it could be the moves are from our own comprehension combined with his teachings, we prolly need more info on jiang's fighting style for that||

[devout kayak]

|| but qianye was swapped with aunt han in the end right? So aunt han bring yan brother to repair?||

Let me check my understanding again || in last chapter yan brother protect her from the blaze just like before the accident and near the end of the chapter he met up with qianye and he reassured that he can still do his job right?||

[tulip spoke]

Hmmmm interesting I mean I’m making my character lore accurate so I was wondering if I maybe needed to use both nameless and strategic but I feel like the lore accurate build would be full nameless

[iron canyon]

||uncertain yet, there are a few guesses, but what we can be sure is han intend to use qianye's position for something, also the scnene of qianye with yan's brother happened before we even met qianye at bujianshan||

[topaz belfry]

so everyone other than Yingying, the Dao Lord, and Velvet Shade does NOT know that the GMV is fake?

[devout kayak]

Oh wait really? It was a flashback??

[iron canyon]

||people have pointed out how the nameless sword we're using now in game isn't the full potential version of jiang's sword style, but we have too little info on that since jiang went missing even from the start ||

[tulip spoke]

||also I saw a part at the end of the chapter that uncle jiangs friend (the one in the beginning of the game) was there with the mc in what looked to be kaifeng and i can only assume the story will take us to the imperial palace after that but what im wondering is why big zhao’s brother is with us the scene kind of feels like a dream or something||

[iron canyon]

||https: //v.douyin.com/tc82WQCqqEI/ this was the cutscene, I doubt he's dead yet since he's basically a mechanical build now ||

[iron canyon]

if you have done all the jianghu legacy in kaifeng, it's known that ying ying, dao lord, zheng e, river master and murong yuan, shimmer of south are all part of the plan, but each of them have their own personal plans too

[tulip spoke]

||I think something they could introduce later is maybe that move we see the mc do in cutscenes the one where they leap off of something go for a mid air thrust though every time we do that move it seems to be countered easily kind of showing that we don’t have full mastery over uncle jiangs techniques which made me wonder if in the future they could incorporate the speed of lightness skills into our sword strikes like maybe it could be an ultimate for the martial art!!||

[iron canyon]

||this is the latest ending scene of bujianshan where ym is returning to kaifeng with zhaoer, big zhao clearly has been waiting for zhaoer there, as for chen zixi, he's here to bring ym to jiangnan||

[tulip spoke]

||hmmm so maybe we are going to jiangnan first? I don’t know when the imperial palace takes place in the storyline I saw that it got released for the cn server tho||

[iron canyon]

||from all the scenes so far we saw how ym is leaping dodging and sometimes parrying or attacking, ym's lightness skill is actually insane, but probably they won't go beyond human limits (not till speed of light i believe)||

[iron canyon]

||imperial palace is also freshly released but it's more like a region release, there's not much story/lore impact of the main story, jiangnan would be next region now that the main story of bujianshan has ended||

[tulip spoke]

Okay that makes sense

I’m so hyped it’s gonna be so good

[tulip spoke]

||true but there’s also one game mechanic we saw at the beginning of the game when the void king got to a certain amount of health we were able to perform a finisher on him maybe that could be a mechanic we get in the future||

[topaz belfry]

i see.

does the Young Wanderer have a fear of fire, after the burning of Blissful Retreat?

i noticed in a line that they say "fire makes me uneasy"

[tulip spoke]

It could very well be possible and make sense

Though we do use divine craft fire still so I don’t really know for certain

[peak perch]

I saw some spoilers for imperial palace and zhongdu bridge battle and my god i love seeing peak in this game 😭

[small karma]

Anyone playing Chinese version as well I have some doubts I wanna clear lmao

[topaz belfry]

i like how there was a hint at the very beginning that Yingying ||really is the Ember of East||
during the first fight with the bandits

||she may have used deception to frighten them off||
||but the first bandit was hit by an actual Life Coin attack.||

[iron canyon]

It's more like the incident has a huge blow since ym lost everything that night i don't think ym developed a phobia of fire but rather the fear of loosing those who are close/nice to ym again

[iron canyon]

iirc those are illusions, she already lost her martial arts when we met her

[foggy tiger]

She damage her meridians and that probably means can't channel her qi. Means no inner arts. But she can still use her martial arts. In the context of the game is like having no inner ways but u can still use your attacks as usual

Wouldn't be any kind of top tier fighter but more than enough to scare off bandits

[iron canyon]

that makes sense now

[sudden shard]

And our ym crying on chen zixi's embrace (for men only) 😭

At this scene, i just realized that after many things happen, we're still 16 y.o

We don't have a place to go home, no family

[iron canyon]

||i'd like to think that female ym doesn't want others to see her fragile state so she chose to squat down and cry in her arms🥹 (yeah I'm coping hard)||

[sudden shard]

Chen Zixi's face looks like he doesn't doing well

Sickly I mean

[iron canyon]

||family stories hurt so much🥹 literally started to shed tears from when zhao er happily went to big zhao's side||

[sudden shard]

I'm laughing at some people use lu bu headpiece and poke chen zixi's head with it (while hugging him) 😅 I guess we should change our clothes to our initial clothes for more immersion

[crimson birch]

saw the scene on douyin and im like FINALLY our YM finally getting to see someone that they knew from their home YM been through a lot my poor baby

[iron canyon]

||i'm coping by thinking it's because he ran everywhere finding ym and the old wound from helping jiang and that his disciple(? behind is just shocked at ym's emotional outburst ||

[sudden shard]

I think it's because our male ym headbutt his old wound? Lol

[iron canyon]

they made ym and the characters so lively🥹

[crimson birch]

please let chen zixi our uncle stay well and alive if not i will riot we need an adult for YM as emotional support. and the disciple is just surprised like "damn the hero is breaking down do i do something or???:

[sudden shard]

I hope Chen Zixi stay well to be ym emotional support

[iron canyon]

||in the memories of ym chen did say that he can't carry ym because of his old wound, I'd like to think that ym is also aware and doesn't wanna hurt him (because he persuaded ym to go down, with him joing after and they are stuck in a hole)||

[crimson birch]

do wanna learn more about uncle chen too what's his background and everything circulated between him and uncle jiang

[iron canyon]

||the comments literally saying that if chen doesn't stay well their next boss will be netease's office||😭

[crimson birch]

oh that little quest that came out on cn? i have only see short cutscenes of it but it was so cute

[sudden shard]

Also Chen zixi can heals us (uncle jiang) im fighting the void king

[sudden shard]

If ym can go down with lightness skill, why can't he go up with the same skill lol, I do wonder about this

And uncle chen follow us down the hole

[iron canyon]

||its part of the building system and randomly you can recall memories of ym when they're young https: //v.douyin.com/MKV_GQcyDe4/ and obviously everyone gets scolded by aunt han even though jiang has nothing to do with this😭 ||

[sudden shard]

I think chen zixi is from jiangnan, since kaifeng's cloth merchant asks us if we're from jiangnan

[iron canyon]

from the looks ym is probably only 7 ish, probably just started training

[iron canyon]

when he first met jiang back then, chen is also asking if jiang wanna go jiangnan with him

[gloomy flame]

honk honk!

[crimson birch]

we need more YM memories of them in the village aunt han being the strictest person is frying me then again i keep seeing the kungfu hustle movie scene with her as the aunty in there

[sudden shard]

This one is limited event on CN, and the reason why there is tassel in bamboo abode

[iron canyon]

aunt han literally went these boys can't be trusted with themselves not to mention a baby, our ym is lucky to have her

[sudden shard]

Hoping aunt han teaching us face changing skill lol

[crimson birch]

REAL with how much uncle jiang drinks i'm really thankful aunt han is there

[crimson birch]

we will be the water lady's successor TRUST
hope we get a title like that soon ngl i miss my aunty

[iron canyon]

plus chen zixi is like the cool uncle that would bring you to do all sorts of stuff that your parents won't allow🤣

[sudden shard]

Ahh. That's we're like chen zixi

So sassy and brave lol

[iron canyon]

the way he instantly sided aunt han because if he doesn't admit even though he doesn't have anything to do with this just because if he doesn't, no wine for him😭

[crimson birch]

uncle jiang's main bait is wine
parting tears be dayumn good so i don't blame him LOL

[heady parrot]

guys im new to the game but dang! why did they have to cancel Blade , he my fav lad 😢

[iron canyon]

in cn they are actually receiving calls from uncle jiang and aunt han as part of the cny🥹

[sudden shard]

With us as leverage for the wine...

[crimson birch]

the memories
killerblade still|| (in our hearts) ||alive trust

[crimson birch]

EOFIJOIJE I NEED THAT aunty and uncle YM and us misses you please come back
may the algorithm bless me and put more vidoes of that on douyin for me

[crimson birch]

uncle jiang... i love you... but i can't defend you for this...

[sudden shard]

Is Hexi and Hutuo are counted as DLC?

[iron canyon]

||https: //v.douyin.com/NYQpkf5-0pc/🥹 come back home||

[crimson birch]

the official annoucement does call them as dlc

[iron canyon]

he's alive in our hearts trust🥹

[heady parrot]

i feel like I'm playing hide and seek with ||Aunt Han even|| at Kaifang. Where the hell is she?😂

[sudden shard]

Jiangnan after ch 4

Presumably

[heady parrot]

i think i like the current main story but i have finished it all for now. Any ideaa when they will add up new MSQ?

[crimson birch]

we might see her at jiangnan perhaps latest cutscene in cn shows her

[sudden shard]

March 6th

[crimson birch]

for msq if you just mean the main story quest in terms of gameplay, hexi will come on march, but the main story in terms of lore will come at region after hexi i remember

[sudden shard]

I hope they release more jiangnan trailer asap

[heady parrot]

yes im talking about the lore. I see that will take time then. I'm actually just doing some other quest now, so far i like them too

[heady parrot]

also i have no idea what Hexi is, new gameplay?

[vague shoal]

Hexi is filler lore so we are still going to be playing hide and seek with aunt han for a long time

New region

[iron canyon]

||also how ym says (somewhere in one of the stories, I can't dig out the source) 以我养母爱我之深 (basically describing aunt han's love as a mother figure towards ym)🥹 her position and love is invaluable despite not biologically related ||

[heady parrot]

Oh u mean like a spin off or after story quest?

[vague shoal]

You could say it's a spin off, but the quality seems to be really good

Devs even taking their time to improve localization for hexi if they are to be trusted from what they said in the devs letter

[iron canyon]

take your time with the stories, a lot of details can be easily missed🥹 and it's really rewarding after you pieced everything up

[heady parrot]

oh right, while doing msq , i noticed some npc called me a he, him despite im using a female character😂

[crimson birch]

adoptive mother??? OFEJFOIEJ IM CRYING i wonder if YM will call aunt han 'mom' once their reunion with how heartbroken YM was already when they saw uncle Chen

[heady parrot]

actually i finished the whole msq only in a week

[crimson birch]

the pronouns translation

[heady parrot]

now im trying to find whatother stuff i could do in the game

[sudden shard]

Hope the devs will reelase season shop wallpaper lol since it's good but there are menus

[crimson birch]

RIGHT??? i love how YM looks and the composition and colors of the picture

[iron canyon]

if this happens I would really be shedding so much tears🥹 ym is really raised in love but not overspoiled

[sudden shard]

It's refreshing lol, even more than previous one

[heady parrot]

yeah i literally read everything, even the expo story i did once it was good

[sudden shard]

Are you in Kaifeng already?

[iron canyon]

and more picture options🔥

[sudden shard]

Does wwm release wallpaper like lads?

[heady parrot]

yeah, i speedrun msq in a week, im not skipping anything in the story but i manage to finished it in a week

i mean only the main quest

[sudden shard]

That's so fast! I always getting side tracked by completing oddities so... took me 3 weeks to finish MSQ

[iron canyon]

https: //www.wherewindsmeetgame.com/m/ if you go to the gallery they do have wallpapers and pictures

[heady parrot]

lore is actually all i care about games, but i can't lie i was captivated by other stuff in this game too😂

[heady parrot]

i also got stuck so many times while fighting the boss lady, until the system reduce my difficulty, which make it super easy

[iron canyon]

and the random encounters / small quests or chests

[crimson birch]

first lady boss or second lady boss?
qianye is so scary with her 2nd phase esp

[heady parrot]

both the first and second, but the second , she.. she's even crazier

[iron canyon]

i don't even know how i managed to beat her back then surviving with my medicine for quite some time I couldn't beat her even with my friend

[sudden shard]

Thanks will use it on my pc 🥳

[heady parrot]

oh and that ||crazy chick at Kaifang Underground market, the way she laugh ,she scared the $ht out of me||

[crimson birch]

qianye was my struggle only after i trained with the grandpa and grandson a bit i was like COME AT ME YOU WITCH and kinda survived in a clutch T^T

[sudden shard]

Dang. This one can chase you lol

[crimson birch]

the thing is more friends you call the harder it gets too like i called help to make it easier and now it's more hard WHAT IS THIS

[sudden shard]

I saw someone post a signpost about be extra careful with this woman and i can fix her signpost

[sudden shard]

I beat world bosses solo, since it's hard if we co op lol

[heady parrot]

ikr, i got spooky when i met her the first time😂

[crimson birch]

we are not a construction crew || (jkjk i say as I also say i can fix him pointing towards zheng e )||

[sudden shard]

I got spooked when in the cages place before the mini boss

[iron canyon]

i saw the videos before I went, one mistake and i am chucked on the ground

[crimson birch]

the way she laughs made me thought i was being haunted irl

[heady parrot]

i wish i could use my tom and jerry, kungfu hustle run during the chase

[iron canyon]

almost every female bosses I would see signposts like that😭

[heady parrot]

woww she stab me until dead lol

[sudden shard]

We need to walk slowly in the cages spot before the mini boss. If not you will be hunted down by many scissors women lol😭

[sudden shard]

Only on female bosses tho, it's rare too see it on male bosses somehow

[iron canyon]

i recently helped someone playing in abyss mode to beat zheng e because I was bored... he was insane that I had to take out my healing fan

[sudden shard]

Is it bounty?

[heady parrot]

what are those signpost, i saw them alot

[sudden shard]

I do hybrid all the time for bosses, but now change to full dps for farming gears

[iron canyon]

it almost cost me back then luckily I have my fan

[crimson birch]

the yellow ones? you can call for help from other players when you see them
i do put mine on zheng e so lmk if you need help lol shameless self promotion

[crimson birch]

he hits hard T^T

[sudden shard]

If you respawn, she can still kill you in a heartbeat...

[iron canyon]

and the boss with the bird is so frustrating i kept gtting yeeted down the cliff and had to pass that place again

[sudden shard]

Same lol🤣i keep falling off to my death...

[crimson birch]

https: //v.douyin.com/fjfAVd9YYqc/

i feel like the ice in here getting hit by zheng e

[iron canyon]

it was a random I saw at world chat and I was thinking why not, only to see the legend mode icon

[crimson birch]

https://tenor.com/view/fahhh-fah-skeleton-vonoffe-meme-gif-17918076419074819351

[heady parrot]

oh i see, i didnt know that, i would definitely use it in the future if i need help😂

[sudden shard]

Ohh can you help me ? 👀

[crimson birch]

you tryna fight zheng e?

[iron canyon]

literally us when he yeeted us and slammed us down the ground😭

[sudden shard]

I didn't remember how i put assist help on coffin master and earth fiend

[heady parrot]

meanwhile i saw the duck, and i though i could kill it for chicken meat until i realised i got my as* woops by that same duck. I literally have no idea that duck in this game knows kungfu too. what is this? kungfu panda?

[iron canyon]

who are you trying to fight? i'm still learning how to parry too

[crimson birch]

you have to enable the is assign signpost i think you might have enabled that while putting a signpost

[iron canyon]

the geese are the definition of power (if you notice, your battle power unit can be measured in geese too😭 )

[mystic idol]

I’m crying it’s so peak

[mystic idol]

||yup i was even thinking maybe after hexi ym has slightly let go of it, but turns out wrong — i think seeing chen there finally brought someone from ym’s childhood and that opened the floodgates of emotions the ym bottled up for so long ||

[iron canyon]

||despite not everyone ym met has a complete family, they still have someone / a place to return to🥹 ym doesn't anymore||

[honest rain]

It seems like Yingying/Wen Wuque was really careful with the information they let the others in on. Murong Yuan, Zheng E and Feng Ruzhi all seem to have "infinite funding without court's interference" be a big part of their plans, and it coul only be true if Ember let them think the vessel was real to string them along

GM, gang🫰

[iron canyon]

it's valid bc she's going against the imperial family, and that she already lost her position as the master of weiyang city, it's overall a risky plan, plus if wen wuhen caught wind of this, he might actually interfere

[honest rain]

There are already "finishers" you can perform🤔 I don't recall triggering them on boss-level characters, but if you attack NPCs with low enough health, the animation plays differently

[ocean wedge]

[honest rain]

Kinda scumy, but valid. When she leaves, there is no gold-making vessel, but the secret passages to smuggle grain are still there (not sure if Murong Yuan got any useful "side-quest" like this, but someone gotta lose)

[iron canyon]

Also the soldiers in the granary are the troupes related(? to murong yuan (that's why you see her brother there). For the gold making vessel it's more like a prop to start up discussions and conflicts between the people

[umbral grotto]

hieee wassup!!

[honest rain]

That's his kid, ofc he gets scolded for everything YM gets up to😂

[honest rain]

I don't recall exact location of this info, but as part of the plan Zheng E was replacing Granary-local soldiers with Murong's soldiers that wouldn't bat an eye at secret grain-stealing passage

[honest rain]

He's going for full "16 19 and pregnant" package

[iron canyon]

https: //v.douyin.com/030t8i-tlso/ although cursed but it's an accurate depiction of their daily life😭

[honest rain]

||I might be projecting here, but I think YM was keeping it together while there was no one to rely on (like he had to be "the adult in the room"), but now that there's someone from his family he can go back to being a kid, even if for a bit||

[honest rain]

Auntie is ruthless😂

[honest rain]

Man, Sun Yuan was not playing when he developed those fan martial arts

[sudden shard]

Wow, why they wouldn't bat an eye on zheng e stealing the grain 😅

Was it loyalty? Or something else

[honest rain]

That's an exaggeration on my part about "not bat an eye", but also I think there's a good chance Murong Yuan picked a bunch of loyalists who could be trusted with the plan

[foggy tiger]

Realistically only a few people would have need to access the storage area. The guards usually just patrol the perimeter and stand guard.

[honest rain]

But also realistically, building an underground tunnel is Loud

[foggy tiger]

Ancient China no heavy machinery how loud u expect shovel and pickaxe to be

[honest rain]

Real question, have you ever been near anything that involved shoveling? I can understand that the underground part's noises were covered by layers of ground, but they had to connect it to outside at some point. Looking at the entrance we use in quest, it took more than 1 night to build (and Granary seems like a place with overnight security anyway)

It is an anti-imperial project on imperial military object, a handful of days with suspicious noises would be enough to jeopardize everything

Either guards were inclined to look the other way or Shen Yilun's reputation was so good nobody doubted Master of Grain when Zheng E started his shenanigans

[heady parrot]

I literally forgot Aunt Han face. || Is She the one that sky dance with the MC at Red Pavilion expo quest??||

[brisk ether]

No

[iron canyon]

Shen Yi Lun's reputation has been really good (even in real history) and I guess zheng e also did put up a convincing act

[sage vault]

i mean, is quite a huge tunnel network down there xD

guess they also had the help of Nine Mortal Ways to build that tunnel network... and anyway most of it looked like it already was just a natural cavern

[iron canyon]

I dug out the 3 versions of uncle jiang (https: //v.douyin.com/9HDSzoWj0Ic/) and aunt han's (https: //v.douyin.com/VmM4EIe4B98/) calls🥹

[sage vault]

"Peace... for all, hah..." - Zheng E after I kill him for farming healer set 1237512637 time

[iron canyon]

hmmm, most probably the tunnel way had existed for quite some time, and maybe they just need some altering, so it might not be a full fledged construction

[sage vault]

yeah what I meant

but yeah what i find funny is that most of the attendees to the treasure basin trick were aware it was fake except the government and you xd

[honest rain]

Wait, is Shen Yilun one of irl people they took for the plot, no way

[iron canyon]

and he's pretty close with zhao er too

[honest rain]

Imagine being history student, trying to look him up and half of results you get is WWM guides and fanfics

[sage vault]

eeh same happens with Romance of the Three Kingdoms and yo uget Dynasty warriors stuff xd

[iron canyon]

I really liked the original version of this one 天下常平，不知饥馑 (peace for all and free from/never know hunger) it's also the name of the granary 常平仓

[iron canyon]

(wwm succeeded in promoting this part of history

[honest rain]

The more I find out about Kaifeng plot, the more I want to know about their day-to-day. Give me a 100ep mundane court drama comedy cdrama about them!!!

[sage vault]

Zheng Er looking for chicken 🍗

also cool detail that every sect has different quotes reactions from NPCs when you visit Nine Mortal Ways base

[iron canyon]

SHENYILUN- (voice breaks😭 )

[honest rain]

The "please don't kill me" for MB is frying me, like aren't they half of your reliable clients

[sage vault]

and the only sect they won't ever impersonate is Silver Needle

[honest rain]

They aren't catching those medical malpractice lawsuits

[sage vault]

"free consultations today?"

[honest rain]

NMW too lazy to even find some flowers, on record

[sage vault]

and they sound like so happy saying the SIlver Needle lines while with the other sects is like they mocking them x'D

thing the other sect they kinda respect is masked Troupe cuz Masked Troupe also helps them do some scams x'D

[honest rain]

Which is extra surprising, knowing that MT are encouraged to live secluded lifestyle and distance themselves from mundane... but I guess disciples will always get up to something

[sage vault]

or at least thats what i could understand from one of their scams manuals

mentioning what to do when teaming up with every or trying to team up, or yeha, scam them

scam them mostly, but yeah only sects they would side with looks like its either Well of Heaven or Masked Troupe

[honest rain]

They will conduct business with Midnight Blades, but I need to read up on lore to see if they'd risk trying to scam the murder kittens

[foggy tiger]

Well I have dug foxholes during my military training. It's loud but it isn't something u'll hear given a reasonable distance furthermore divided by walls and ground in the fort

Its not impossible the whole granary was in kahoots, but it is also within the realm of possibility the tunnel was constructed in secret. Unless we're assuming the diggers had zero iq and full send digging through rock along with fire works and yelling every time they were digging

[river ridge]

I saw some spoilers on CN about the story that includes Qianye

I don't feel bad now, like knowing his story that is in Global

|| he became so evil in the current story in CN, bro istg i hope there's no redemption for him/"her" ||

[iron canyon]

they saw how they're literally putting the patients above themselves but still despite the mocking they are still nice

[honest rain]

I'd believe you, if it wasn't happening right under the tower in the middle of Granary with the barracks right across from it too

It would be reasonable, if the secret passage led right to the side, or to some corner building, but the fact that it is right there tell me most of the Granary staff was in on it

[royal plover]

What with yingying always shot coin from her hand then there a echo?

[honest rain]

Sound "magic"

[royal plover]

?

Is that trick to active her illusion?

Didnt yingying lostall her martial art when get kicked out from weiyang

[honest rain]

As I understand it she uses coins as focus point to create noise that overwhelms peoples' senses and makes them susceptible to practical effects illusions/convincing

[vague shoal]

Jianghu things

[sage vault]

Ember of the East martial art

[sage vault]

yeah just like the Dark god of fortune

[honest rain]

Technically she uses wuxia physics, not her own qi, but it's as realistic as Lightness Skills

[sage vault]

who is not really a god but he wants to believe himself he's a god, also using illusions

so yeah the third phase of God of Fortune was all just an illusion or so x'D

[honest rain]

Poor YM, his wind sense is so strong that too much noise makes him hallucinate/notsrs

[royal plover]

I even dunno what mean of this name?

Are puppeter boss in verdent wild and the one at above bodhi sea are same person?

[honest rain]

Brothers, they work with similar styles

[royal plover]

But the big guy we fight in verdent wild dont have string, but the one at bodhi sea had string

The one in bodhi sea more like puppet but the one in verdent wild he walk and act like human

[woven sigil]

in Verdant Wilds you're fighting the younger brother (the big guy) blade dancing while the other sings, in Floral Expanse it's the older brother using the younger as a puppet

[sudden shard]

I remember reading ao3 fanfic about zhao er freeing us from prison... and it comes true lol

[honest rain]

Sometimes fic writers Just Know

[sudden shard]

When I hear that voice i won't be the same again🤣

[sudden shard]

Oh, the smells of medicine, is it a silver needle?🤣

[north trench]

what the lore behind the dawg name

[limpid wolf]

Ember is meant to evoke a fallen noble waiting to reignite.

Wen Wuque has lost their standing in Weiyang and is operating in Kaifeng to retake her status.

[royal plover]

Why zheng e disguise as yilun give mc token to enter granary, so mc can beat him?

[clever depot]

Maybe it’s just for the global version to make it more English-friendly?
I mean, it’s similar to this game’s title — Where Winds Meet — while the Chinese name carries much deeper meaning.
Anyone familiar with the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms period would recognize its significance at a glance.

[woven sigil]

it was a trap, that's why Li Shoujie jumps you after you show him the token

he didn't expect YM to just win against the entire army

[leaden orbit]

Hey @tribal crystal

[royal plover]

Lol

[proper orbit]

found this guy.... he might really like being clean.. his name, in Chinese is.. "Love Cleanliness"
艾甘敬 (a name) sounds like 爱干净 (love cleanliness)... both are Ai Ganjing...

another one of those puns lol

Okay, in English it is literally just "Ai Ganjing"

looks like the pun will be lost on english speakers

[honest rain]

Zheng E told the head of security (aka. The guy Murong Yuan sent) to kill anyone with said token. Unfortunately for Zheng E, YM is stronger than the guards

[topaz belfry]

so hang on
can someone explain Gambit Beneath the Shimmer to me?

i gather that the ||Shimmer of South|| is someone important
but why does he fight us (in his way)?

and if what he says about ||Aunt Han's backstory|| is true, then what is the ||Water Lady|| planning?

additionally, has the ||Shimmer of South|| been acting as a sort of spymaster?
he has a ton of classified information just lying around in his realm
who is he loyal to?

(also, i like that when ||the Shimmer|| was down to his last health bar, he ||simply chose not to fight us - to resign, as a proper chessmaster should||.)

[static lodge]

hi guys is this game worth to play ?

[peak perch]

Ngl yes. Good combat, good story, excellent graphics 👍 may be a bit overwhelming at first but it's still good

[hidden kelp]

Yes but be prepared to wade through endless menus and menus and menus. But it's worth it for me 😂 just a learning curve

[uncut silo]

hey I just beat the Qinghe final story

but I swear I saw a cutscene in a video where you see Tian Ying but like old

am I hallucinating?

Yeah I found the video, is that a CN thing?

Tian Ying is an old man we see walking through Thousand Buddha Cavern

[tough timber]

Ding ding dong

Long song mong

[quick river]

good evening ,i am blocked here,i don't know what to do ....pleasse somebody help me : Light up the fire basin with fire arrows ...wrotte

[carmine cave]

My head canon is that someone with the strategic sword build and HQ spear were mentors to the nameless sword and nameless spear user. Idk the 2 are just so similar it gives that parent to successor skill set vibe.

[wise kelp]

after finishing oddities and getting a piece of the peace bell that quest was quite something

[royal plover]

Can u explain what connection zheng e with sorrowfield village?

[timber pewter]

Its his past

[royal plover]

Yeah but what with the connection,

[honest rain]

Play Twelve years of feud, or here are spoilers: ||Zheng E is son of Zheng clan's head family and the only survivor. Sorrowfield village was where their manor was located, it's a place where Zheng E, A'Ruan and Shen Yilun grew up. During famine, some people attacked the manor bc they saw children of the family sharing the grain, and since then the village stands burned and destroyed||

[royal plover]

Zheng manor is not sorrowvillage, its grace town

[honest rain]

You might be mistaking it for Zhang manor, but hive me a sec to pull up the map

[timber pewter]

Have you not completed both the quest

?

[honest rain]

Zheng manor in question, according to Zheng E's journal, Shen Yilun's journal, 12 years of feud and world exploration. It is possible that the clan had more than one manor, they were wealthy but that's the one in question

[royal plover]

Yes, and sorrowvillage not identical with the one we go in flashback

[honest rain]

It burned down 12 years ago, ofc it's not 1:1 with magically projected kid's memory

[woven sigil]

You fight through Gracetown 1:1 in the quest

You can find the well even

[honest rain]

Alr, I'll go look later, but the sorrowfield village one seems to be the lore-relevant one. You can find remnants of Zheng clan there, as well as the graves of other family members, etc

[royal plover]

So what with plague in sorrowvillage and zheng e flashback connection, his past Didnt cause the plague

[woven sigil]

Sorrowfield is where the survivors went after being driven out, their whole grudge is because the soldiers who massacred them were allowed to just keep the town and later handed even more farmland

[sudden shard]

Speaking of Zheng family, who is the boy on top of the roof? While doing the lost chapter, he asked for his family

[royal plover]

His family is in the well

[sudden shard]

Yep, I found it. Who is the boy tho and can we go to the well again in gracetown

[woven sigil]

The well is boarded up but you can find an entrance to the caves in the square

Most of the stuff in Gracetown has to do with their guilt over the massacre, the Grudge Blade are the ones who had no remorse and got thrown out eventually, the rest are split between trying to just forget about it or make amends

[royal plover]

After complete 12 yeat grudge quest mc wake up in gravekeeper hut, when the "12 years grudge completer" pop up on the screen, then we saw someone spy on us from behind the tree... Who is he?

I cant find him after that

[sudden shard]

Near the twin lions?

[woven sigil]

It's Shen Yilun ||aka Zheng E in disguise||

[sudden shard]

I thought so

[sudden shard]

Why do he spy on us ?

[woven sigil]

Well it's his family's graves, idk if it counts as spying

[topaz belfry]

is it true that the best cultivators are often just being a goofy guy?

"You're the 'Winter Snake Master'? You don't even take anything seriously!"
"Of course not, young master! Life is too serious as it is. It is those who only add to the seriousness that are the true fools!"
"I don't understand."
"Better it is to merely act the fool, than to pretend that you are not. We are all fools, really. But true wisdom lies in the fool who accepts that he is a fool!"

[royal plover]

Who is zhongji a person who go misveil forest and never comeback?

[sudden shard]

Praise the fool 😆

[iron canyon]

zheng's manor has been burned down (becoming the abandoned zheng manor outpost we saw), the remaining survivors unfortunately caught a disease, the same one that zheng e and zhuyu was affected because the two went to cure the survivors. ShenYiLun's brother who lead the bandits and wiped the zheng family were instead given a land (current gracetown) an are living peacefully, that's what broke zheng e's last straw because why the evil are treated good but the good had to pay the price

[iron canyon]

with ym's character it's only a matter of time that ym will be caught in prison XD and also back at blissful retreat (before it got burnt down), if you committed crimes you would be grounded by aunt han instead and there's even a goose to accompany you instead of going to jail

[iron canyon]

that's her concept, she's referred as 白财神 (aka the good god of fortune), so just like the god of avarice, wealth is their theme

[iron canyon]

sometimes enlightenment just pops up at the most random times😭

[royal plover]

Feng ruzhi is next new boss? , just find his note at granary underground he contact zheng e

Didn zheng e say he want to help of hunger, but at same time he try to poison keifang ppl by smuggling food to ghost market?

[iron canyon]

you would know more about her after you did the heavenfall campaign

[royal plover]

Yeah still not do this yet

[iron canyon]

The poison and smuggling was because he lost hope and decided to pull everyone down by letting the poison affect whole kaifeng, but shen yi lun (who has been atoning his brother's doing for so long used his life, knowing that he probably couldn't live long to pull zheng e from the edge, that's why in the end zheng e continued helping out the folks)

[royal plover]

Did nmw ppl knew about This poison thing?

[vague shoal]

I think the poison is just side effects of his research or of him wanting to preserve his sister's body

[iron canyon]

part of it yes, but ultimately because of how he saw the unfair treatment, and how people close to him had to die, he already lost hope and wanted everyone to pay (pretty sure his plan is only on early stages, and with ym's influence of freeing shenyilun, he was saved and stopped before things go south)

[vague shoal]

I dont think he did it on purpose, just that he didnt bother to stop when the poison was spreading

The it is what it is attitude

[woven sigil]

he wanted revenge on Gracetown and the Song court and became obsessed, "no peace for the good until all evil is eliminated"

[iron canyon]

he holds a grudge against the court, and kaifeng is under them

[woven sigil]

Gracetown had been given all the farmland in Plainfield, so he took all the food they produced from the granary and smuggled it away, then would poison all that land with Dawn to Dusk

[vague shoal]

He was only poisoning that piece of land in particular right?

[woven sigil]

well it's a whole lot of farmland, it's already causing crops to die when YM arrives which is why everyone's asking for the granary to be opened

[iron canyon]

and also let the folks using tang coins to buy food, affecting the economy too as part of yingying's plan

[shut meteor]

Guys, I like just finished fixing the bell and like what's with that guy u find on the roof and the vision thing he shows? [THE ART WAS SO PRETTY TOO]

[vague shoal]

Lore on how your wind sense is OP compared to normal

[misty siren]

If I leave the sect, will I lose all currency too?

Sect currency?

[woven sigil]

nah reputation carries over, still have to climb the ranks in new sect tho

[restive dust]

Is there any pvp channel?

[iron canyon]

#⚔️pvp-build-discussion this is the one i believe

[topaz belfry]

yeah lmao
i just think that inner peace is the acceptance of the world around them

[scenic obsidian]

So basically Zheng E took Shen Yi Lun’s identity from now

Shen Yi Lun is a real person.

He became the prime minister later .

It would be funny to see Zheng E play his character

[topaz belfry]

"How can you still laugh and joke after slaughtering that man?"
"Quite simple, really. Are my lips somehow fused together after slaying a man...?"
"Master Snake, please take this seriously!"
"I'm taking it as seriously as it deserves. This was a bad man who got what was coming to him - repaying his deeds in kind. I'm a free man who made a choice, and what's done is done. No need to take it any more seriously as any other."

"Unbelievable. Such devastating power is in the hands of... a clown!"
"Have you considered that it is because I am a clown that I possess devastating power?"
"What?"
"To be free, to possess this power, is to release the chains on oneself. The realisation that there is little in the jianghu that deserves to be taken truly seriously is the final chain - once it is broken, you are free to do anything you want, anything at all. See those petty officials, petty lords, petty kings and kingdoms and emperors! Are they no more clowns than I, merely because they cloak themselves in the trappings of riches and authority? What reason have I to respect them any more than I respect myself?
Inner peace is, above all, to live in harmony with the world around them. The world is capricious - I am capricious in turn, bound by no law or authority. That gives me the freedom to do anything I wish - and I choose to be myself."

[royal plover]

Lol really

Damn, i like how dev blend fiction and history together

Did shen yiren, yilun brother?

[scenic obsidian]

Nah, they are not. Shen Yi Lun is a real person. Not sure about yiren

[royal plover]

Didnt they say, yilun brother is bandit who kill zheng family

[scenic obsidian]

This is Shen Yi Lun’s Wikipedia

He shortened his name to Shen Lun later in his life

Grand councilor and prime minister are referring to the same thing in Chinese just different translation

[scenic obsidian]

This is basically fictional elaboration

[iron canyon]

yeah but it's not necessary to be full true, they could create fictional characters related to them, so far I have never heard any real info abt shenyiren so i believe he's fictional

[scenic obsidian]

But Shen Yi Lun is 100% real person

This is not even the funniest part

[iron canyon]

back in the days it's a cultural taboo to say/write names of important figures, so in order to prevent naming taboos (one easiest example is having the same character as them), they would change their names the YI for shenyilun is the same YI as zhaoguangyi, zhaoguangyi also did the same after his brother changing from zhaokuangyi to zhaoguangyi we know now

[hidden kelp]

Him being a real guy makes this funnier

[scenic obsidian]

Yep, that maybe. However, he did that probably before Zhao Guangyi took position

[iron canyon]

the one saying this is zheng e but it was shenyilun who embarassed "himself"😭

[hidden kelp]

Yeah 💯 in this timeline the Shen Yilun is that one lmao

[scenic obsidian]

So the real Shen Yilun were famous about his kindness and good character

Probably he will forgive whatever we do to him.

[hidden kelp]

We can fix him fr

He hasn't come back yet in CN right? So prob continuation in Jiangnan arc

[scenic obsidian]

The funniest part is his name on the portrait have to be read in this order

[hidden kelp]

Omg I was wondering why it was gibberish

[scenic obsidian]

Hahahahaha

[iron canyon]

we also somehow indirectly helped zheng e regain himself because we freed shen yilun im sure he wouldn't mind us beating him up XD

[hidden kelp]

Don't dead open inside moment

[scenic obsidian]

宋尚书左仆射封靖国公义伦公像

[honest rain]

His therapy options are limited, so beating is not the worst😅

[scenic obsidian]

This is the modern order

[sudden shard]

Shen Yilun (high pitch voice)

[iron canyon]

be confident we did XD

[scenic obsidian]

Modern order：

宋尚书左仆射封靖国公义伦公像

The ancient order is like this:
公义国封仆书宋
像伦公靖射左尚

[hidden kelp]

↗️ ↘️ ↙️ ↖️

[honest rain]

Omg, I skimmed through this and the funniest thing ever that devs took just two fictional liberties with the story: He was ~50yo irl, not 20smth, and there was no Zheng E irl attacking him

[honest rain]

That's how you say it, and that's how you read his title... the actor was truly ahead of his time

[scenic obsidian]

He was a kind and solid dude.

[honest rain]

Kinda wish Zhao Er's son picked Shen Yilun's granddaughter as empress, I am so curious what this family could've done

[hidden kelp]

Devs know the target demographics

Gotta make everyone hot

[honest rain]

Or they have a few history nerds locked up in the writing basement

[scenic obsidian]

So Shen Yi Lun would never see the way he became so famous 1000 years later

People weren’t celebrating his good character

[hidden kelp]

I mean plastic surgery exists canonically in this version of the timeline

[iron canyon]

they recreated this but they created another possibility of if everything went wrong despite his good😭

[scenic obsidian]

Imagine Zheng E gonna cosplay Shen Yi Lun for the rest of his life.

Becoming the grand councilor

[iron canyon]

his voice had 3 versions (the 3rd is current😭) until they finally settled down with the best they could

[scenic obsidian]

Reading the emperor’s order with that high pitch voice

[honest rain]

Oh no, don't let biomeds get to power

[iron canyon]

i mean the normal voice is alright, but it feels a bit too young/they didn't catch the emotions fully for the moment (and that shenyilun now becomes the "masterpiece"😭 )