#📖lore-chat
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Are you playing coop?
Ig soo
Because I never reencounter the same oddities while I revisited old locations.
I think it's bcs I play with my friend
the rest is the annoying part
I salute you sir, I don't have that kind of dedication in collecting oddities
I think a lot of those information are really hidden
Within the cave where you met Tian Ying, there were several hidden books and letters where you could gain more information regarding that
I used to watch several chinese-versions to fully understand his story
If you should want to learn more about him, feel free to check my Post out #📖lore-chat message
I also made 1 for the Story between the moon Godness and Tian and also 1 about He Ran
You should totally help me collect them
whats the best active in english channels.?
I just finished the Jinming Pool Campaign and was entirely shocked about how awful the EN translation is. How come it can never decide whether to call the 五牙大舰 as 'Quintadent Warship' or 'Five-Toothed Warships' lol. Overall the localisation for that particular campaign is weaker than anything else in Kaifeng and Qinghe, and it's very obvious they relied on an AI translator to get things done.
Broskis, Im a victim of poor reading comprehension, I just finished Volume 2, Shadows In Bloom, where you inside the Big Castle, (I think it's called reverly hall? Then at the end, Bao rong, and basically all the girls assemble, then there's this lady in green, with tattoos on her shoulder/chest overlooking it, ( icant send images here), is that Aunt Han? or not
The quest is also very buggy lmao
It's not... That's the leader of Velvet Shade iirc
I see, I'm so lost atm
1.Heartseeker is not Aunt Han right, that's just our fever dream with her face slapped onto that being?
2. At the final sequence of Chapter 1 fight (after Qianye fight), who pulled us back as the MC wanted to run into the explosion?
3. What happened to Aunt Han after Chapter 1, where did she go?
- No. Her power is to change her apperance. Yi Dao also mentioned it in the main story.
- Aunt Han
- Dunno maybe hiding. She'll appear in Mohist Hill according to CN players.
Ah i see, I know her ability is to change faces, hence the water lady ticket stuff we can use, and her whole secret agent organization stuff to spy with various stuffs, but yeah, Heartseeker is fictional right, just something we fight inside our mind
No.. Water Lady and Qianye isn't the same person. Aunt Han is water lady.
Yeah I know that, Qianye is Qianye, Water Lady = Aunt Han, but i just need confirmation that Heartseeker is an imaginary being that we fight, or is that Qianye messing up our minds with illusion?
Yes she's inner demon. Because we try out too many martial arts we get qi deviation that forces us to fight our inner demon
Thank you, I'm more or less caught up in the story now!
Hmm ive got more questions, who are those bandaged guy in chapter 1 that we found before heartseeker fight, failed aunt han operations? If so, why are they there? I'm assuming they're part of Aunt han's organization, loyalists who wants to change their face to spy, but werent so lucky
- Who is the faceless ones that is coming after Aunt Han/WaterLady
ig He Ran is named like that cuz he ran 🏃♂️➡️
but man the localization is still wonky rn, had to have the wiki besides me to understand that quest
What faceless ones? The ones in black clothing or the people in the underground?
In the revelry hall quest which i asked who is the woman, before we enter the hall, we speak with a nine mortal way disciple right, it mentioned something about lists, Faceless Ones, and the jiangnan this that and I think the gist of it is that they're hunting Aunt Han?bso starts the quest where we had to infiltrate and find this jiangnan envoy inside, also at the end where we talk to the pretty girl who escort us to fireworks, MC said "ah so you dont know the faceless ones? The less that know the better"
No... the faceless ones are spies and the list is a list of spies that travel north to Khitan. Aunt Han used to work for the Palace of Annals by helping people change their faces. Those who suceeded venture north to become spies. Those whose procedure failed were forced to hide underground which we also encountered while exploring the underground area of Blissful Retreat. The Aureate Pavilion attacked Blissful Retreat because they want this list of spies. Allegedly the list is now in Velvet Shade hands and our MC wanted to destroy it so the spies will remain anonymous and protect Aunt Han.
Ahh i got it wrong, so the faceless ones in the list, are our allies
ye, the ones who succeeded were able to cross
the ones that didnt are living underground
the masked ppl were sent to get that list so they could wipe the spies out their land
Also this might be dumb, but, what is the Jianghu?
Is it just the "Martial art world?"
Ahh thought so jahaha
i learned that from webtoons 😭
It's a metaphor right, not the actual world itself
maybe the real jianghu were the friends we made along the way
I'm ashamed, i read bunch of manhuas but didnt understand
Is that not the jianghu, gg, i cried
its kinda like the general setting whhere all chinese stories are set
So what are the current known antagonists/villains?
Khitans?aureate pavilion? Khitans are basically mongol invaders right
wuxias annd xianxias at least
jianghu basically means mountains and rivers. It's just a symbolic name for a place where martial artist wanders.
They're related but not the same
Aureate Pavilion is the Tang
Ah, so, the journey itself is the jianghu, it's not a place, so to see the jianghu, one mist travel and adventure
Also, at the prologue, who is uncle jiang escaping from? Khitans?
Probably the Aureate Pavilion, or perhaps other martial artists, since he was falsely accused of killing his adopted father, Wang Qing, who was regarded as a great general.
is mah boi Chen really dead
man, all the fine men just gone 
Chen Zixi? He's still alive iirc...
he is??
Yeah I think he went south to recover
maybe he just successfully parried those arrows
Ah i see, chen zixi is our bro at the prologue right
And.. oh yeah, who is MC really? Just some baby jiang found on the battlefield? How is jiang connected to aunt han? Old allies? Along with yi dao, chu qingquan?
uncle Chen as he shall now be named
We don’t know who MC is. We will find out in later chapters
I see, unc jiang is Friends with han already right
Otherwise she wouldn't just raise a random baby given to her
they were part of the same group i think
We don’t know for sure, but there’s heavy foreshadowing that we’re somehow related to the main villain, Li Zuo. Jiang Yan and Aunt Han met after Chen Zixi parted ways with Jiang Yan. She felt bad seeing how poorly Jiang Yan was taking care of the MC, so she helped him.
i dont remember the name tho
No he left to help Tian Ying
Aunt Han and uncle Jiang were old buddies. Apparently in heavens pier you can find a note where uncle Jiang jokingly leaves baby MC as down payment for his parting tears tab with a promise that if he doesn’t pay aunt Han back she can have the baby 😂 I think they are a trio alongside Chu the guy aunt Han likes.
I think they co parented MC for a little while before he left?
its the naruto trio fr
I don’t think they’re that old of buddies. According to the story in the character compendium, they met for the first time when Jiang Yan already had the MC, which was after the scene in the prologue.
This is even more confusing xD
Tian ying sounds like some god or something that is super old
Is the tianying that we foight the same guy? He's also the guy the lunar Goddess was waiting for right
Huh interesting! Whoever introduced them must have done a heck of a job if aunt Han took them in
From a lot of groups
Chen Zixi even said "Even the pavillion is after you, you're one famous guy" something like that
The MC was born from a peach fruit a giant one,
No wait it's a giant stone then wind blew on the egg
Which means young master is not 16 years old 💀
Probably til our MC gained awareness, since he does not remember Chu
I think the most likely source is chiu only visits to doink Han while Han does her operation under the well
not the doinking
It’s been a while since I watched the intro but do we ever see Chu?
I'm waiting for a good tian ying lore explanation video
Remember han and chiu are spies and all the imposters among us under the well
Nope
I've read 2 threads on reddit and still confused gg 😭
What? He's 16.
He's an assassin from the previous dynasty
Chu Qingquan? No we've never seen him.
If you type 16 in the lore channel people assumed MC is 16
Well actually they are 15 🤓 since china count sui a year ahead of actual birth age
Bro Jiang Yan literally has a line that said we left Blissful Retreat when we're 16. It's in the game
Cause aunt Han said has it really been 16 years? 🙂↕️
aww man
Aww man
I forgor
well its nnot a video but its still well put together
Damn I thought he was the guy that rode with us at the start. Forgot what happened to him
We are not only fragrant but we're also zesty goddamn
That's Chen Zixi
I can't see the link, removed
Send me link pls
Do we ever see him again?
it wont let me post links so rip ig
No but he should still be alive. Iirc he went south to recover.
Chen Zixi got stabbed
Could be alive could be dead
Post it to #📺media
Dm it tho
But he got better right 🥺
Welll I don't knoe
He'll be fine
We'll know once we get lore on hin
he's waiting for his buddy bro pal honeybunch sugarplum jiang to show up again
like me 
Consider me corrected on this, it seems like we do have lore on him
all i knonw is that he and jiang grew up together and thats it
the wiki is so mean, they alr plastered "deceased" on him like nah
Are they…cultivation partners 
OMG they were cultivation partners!!!
They are? Where did you get that info. I just know that they're old friends. Jiang Yan himself was adopted by Wang Qing after his father died.
Seeing cultivation partners and double cultivate is so weird in this game, but maybe it was because most of the manhuas i read, dual cultivate means they had sex or something 💀
He Ran was the one who had seen Jiang Yan while he was a kid
Danmei brainrot (same)
the He Ran quest with the general jiang killed
I don't remember that mentioned.
bro explained a little bit of jiang backstory
that jiang had a scholar friend nnamed Chen zixi
Yeah that just mean they are friends doesn't mean they grew up together
ok yea maybe nnot grew up together but like knew each other from back then
Please don't spread misinformation
Super disappointed with that quest, because I know the story of Murong Yuan is just so good. Held back by bugs and lack of quality assurance checks
Wait is he the fake with the blindfold that got really sad wang Qing had uncle Jiang as his favourite?
i just forgot about that term
now its back inn my head 
honk honk!
Oh yea bre, fk these goose
Are there lore behind them, a gang of killer goose, deleted my char
He's not fake? He's just an ex soldier who followed Wang Qing. Unfortunately he was used to deliver some sort of item that turned Wang Qing into zombie forcing Jiang Yan to kill him.
ye
what fake?
like fake blind?
I have to double check the quest. I just remember being bro being like ‘uncle Jiang killed him uncle Jiang killed him’ and then turns out man had a grudge against uncle Jiang because of his fault. Also I associate that quest with lying because everyone was lying to everyone on that quest including us
Question
It can be interpreted that Chen Zixi survived based on Uncle Jiang's notes, and character page
How much game content will we get just seen this map idk if it’s true or not
Also I think he like is painting himself to be some hero but bro was like killing everyone
Uuuh doubtful
In the general’s shrine
he was mad at jiang cuz he saw him kill the general. He didnt know what the box contained
everything else was revealed to him at the end
i assume that was just enough info to drive someone to madness honestly
Wasn’t he already insane before? I thought he was sacrificing people for the generals shrine
He was also Jealous and regretful that he did not take the initiative to present himself to the general
oh u mean liu?
wait who we talking about
ye
No no the blindfold guy. The headsman
PTSD does something to a person
oh wait thats it? sadge
thought there would be more
lol the joyus couple in gathering of the heroes made me understand why IGN gave the game a 6/10
Who?
He Ran
basically the start of second chapter
Yeah that’s the one. I’m bad with names
In CN there is more
It's the Jianghu it takes alot to kill someone especially a named character in these stories 😭
no i meant, the lore part
Yi Dao, Ruby, Bearded Guang
||Not ruby tho|| sorry
I did say it took alot did you see what it took to take down Yi Dao
unc yi dao 🥀
Eh Yi dao had a bro cutscene with the wine and everything. Once they start reciting poetry and drinking in a fight it’s the end for someone
Ruby was blasted by arrows
Actually I wouldn't be surprised if she returns as a zombie anyways
I mean as shown by the granary quest this game does not have a problem with kids corpses
I mean in the narrative we have those blue bugs
Yet we were not shown
Ruby’s body? Yeah. Can’t find her in heaven pier heaven either tho that might just be my skill issue
Took me forever to find Yi dao
Only in the cutscene
My skill issue it is then
oh man, not that scene 🥀
Ruby dead dead fr
Had to somehow remove our character's ties 🥀
Have some more painn
I had the braided loop hair before and had to take it off for Kaifeng too 😭 because in lore ruby did those braids for us
the way to reach the top of the jianghu is to have 0 friends 🤝
So MC can’t have the same hair again because ruby would always do the clumsy ties
ill bury my emotions down here, and then one day, ill die ahh plot
They gotta prep you for how it feels to be an immortal since you are crossing into xianxia at that point
I don't think we are going to see our mc comprehend the dao to it's fullest
that's a good thing actually
and then theyll have us look back and be like was it all worth it 🥀
No no if we get turned into donkeys a few more times in arena trials we will get our golden core trust
Okay i think i get the tian ying story now, what a guy
I think thematically our story ends with us being somewhat of a renowned hero for a good decade or so
I just hope his story wasn't delivered in bucnh of letters, notes, scrolsl
Tian Ying ain't going to live to see his dream same goes as the others 🥀
Would be cool af if there's a chapter reliving his stories
The most important part of Manhua🤣
Wait wdym, he's back and fighting the north again?
I hope we get famous but get to stop fighting and rebuild heavens pier. So much of the story is about stopping the cycle of violence. Granny turtle and the little fus can move in with us.
well for starters the game is based on an actual historical dynasty with actual historical figures
Oh you mean that the war isn't going to end for like 400 years
Most likely everyone would be dead
Nah it ends in like 5.
It's set near the end of the actual war?
honestly same
like i know its important to move on from past grievances but its just sad that we left it as is, just a barren wasteland now. Like a stamp of defeat
Actually it’s like 932 right so actually 7
According to Jiang's premonition, we fight ||the bug puppet master emperor Ai||
So we should probably achieve a power level close to that
Hehe
That’s okay! That’s what weve been training out building/crafting skills this whole time for! We can single-handedly rebuild heavens pier
shourley shourley
Now that the story makes sense in my head, i wish this gets a manhua, could totally fit right in lol
like in bravely default, welll slowly rebuild norende shourley trust trust
We will be able to, maybe soon maybe farther in the future, but we surely will be able to rebuild
Lowkey just jianghu behaviour our mc acknowledges it early it's mostly blood and tears
I foresee tragedy after tragedy
Btw qianye rematch is almost guaranteed right, for unc bladeeee
and then we get to be happy 👍
Sorry for everyone that is involved with the main character though
pls dont
man theyre so fine 😔
I hate that trope
We either achieve happiness or become Tian Ying
Old masters gets killed and their disciples carry their souls or cause
dead lover
dead friends
dead everything
But it's going to make me cry to defo
If they killed em off, just make a cutscene where all 4 unc jiang and friends drink in some kind of heaven realm
😭 😭
Uhhh kinda? It’s the end of the 5 dynasty era and 2 years into the song dynasty. Spoilers but I’m pretty sure ||in the next few years the emperor of song marches on the north and by 979 the last of the empire was unified but the core empire was stabilized before that||
same
it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth
like what, so all our efforts amounted to nothing that it was too much for us to handle so the next gen will have to get involved in this mess as welll?
Maximum the conflict lasts until we are like 40. Mc def gets to retire in peace
It's in the name lowkey where winds meet if you think about it
gusted to conflict after conflict
but then again it's not all sad
it meets in my booty cheeks thats where
mc gets to do alot of good in the open world idk how much of that is true or happened
quit the jianghu early
go and live a simple life
it's possible
Be that fisherman, 80 and still looking 40. No stress on his mind
Honestly, I think Jiang has a high chance of dying
Do we know the whole story? If so don't gimme spoilers but a yes or no.
Do we get to take revenge for our beloved ruby
No
Yes
all the pretty ppl die anyways 
If you want me to elaborate without including spoiler just DM me
More deaths and depression to come
Elaborate about? Revenge?
I cannot say if we do actually get revenge but it seems she is alive
Check dm
ruby comes back buff af
think that one bubbles meme
Isn't she dead, how she back
im being silly
i donnnt actually know if she stays dead
but it would be epic if she did come back and was bubbles level of buff
imagine ruby will be the one to comprehend the dao
Does aunt han die as well? Or was she the one who pulled us when killerblade sacrificed himself
Would be cool if she was trained by Han and saves us at one point
That’s was her yes
But impossible now
aunt han is currently in hidinng right?
Old hag had the audacity to resuce us and not show up or even a letter for us
well, tbf to her
she was basically discovered
the ruby comeback shourley shourley
We've only seen her properly at the bar when she told us to serve the baddie who massacred us.
Just imagine we are about to die, and throwing knives come from nowhere and then showing aunt Han and an older Ruby who saved us.
We can only imagine...
And at her brother's grave and when she was dumping wine onto the sea
Idk where this uncle of ours is but he sure knows how to hide
theres alr an Ao3 fic of that 100% 😭
its too cruel
But our MC should be unaware of who threw the knives, and Han and Ruby leaves once again leaving MC in the dark🤣🤣🤣
god forbid the MC of any game gains context to what happens 😆
MC recognizes the knives but cannot find Han which keeps him unaware of Ruby's survival🤣
At least this Mc talks. I get traumatized when gta online my character is a mute
mute MCs were made so players can more easily self-insert imo
I wonder what happened to that black ninja dude who stole our pendant
👀
Probably went ||back to Jiangnan or something||
he under ur bed rn

i dont want self insert into this MC
he is not me
he is my son
yes i am also one of the uncs
Game tried to bait me into getting attached to another character little Fu but damn the plot twist with her is mad
Did he? I think I have an invitation for that sect but I didn't bother and it expired
He did
In the Jianghu guide something
Too late tho when I read it, I may not have joined well of heaven, but I already stole strat sword and murdered a few members🤣
Idk anything about sects but I do want to get the drips and styles off the sects shops so I need to be careful wit it
How many bosses r there after the horsw dude? To reach kaifang
What about bosses? Just finish the story and boat your way to kaifeng
Probably meant dalang
How many bosses ( main story ) are there b4 kaifeng?
Which would mean 1 boss
Not so sure but I think only Qianye is left, enjoy the fight hehe
qianye is the only one required ye
Yea the fight is cinema
Pls tell me the fight is hard
Me love me a hard boss fight
Hate hard mobs tho
Should have upped the diff
go legend and enjoy
So its ez??? Im playing at the hardest non perma death difficulty
It's alright just be aware of mechanics
im good with solo boss fights
but when said boss has minions, i falter
like a deer forgetting how to run
Lol
😩
Glad I don't have to worry about lag, imagine multiple attacks going to you with high latency 🤣
Im jelous.... im here running a intel gpu worse then a 950
So i lag when more then 1 enemies do fancy attacks
Everyone will have the chance to upgrade you'll get there
murong yuan
Im laptop games
Well
I found that fight fun
Why wait?
Let it retire
I got my exams ( boards ) [ super imp ] in a few months
her and her stupid bird can go 🚪
Need to stall it out
phase 1 is pretty fun
Cuz if it dies now... ill be left with nothing
but i dunno if i can defend that phase 2
Good luck you got this, for a professional license you got to focus on the exams first
Ya fr. Its school exams its ez but its got a hell of a rep
I love the phases with mechanics, I love playing co-op with Murong and Donkey old man
So well wish me luck... and also wish my laptop to find peace the day after my exams end
Glad I'm done with that, but you got to continue learning even after graduating and passing the boards
Ye fr. Life sucks..... wish i was born 200 yrs ago in europe
As far as im aware ( not a lot ) things were decently chill
I love how chaotic it is, the only thing I hate about Murong yuan in sword trial, is some players bring all the bombs close to Murong, which funks us up
hate doing coop with the fire generall onn a horse wats his name?
mostly cuz it always seems im beign paired up with ppl who have never fought him
so theyre just scrambling around
ye wanshan
I didn't know how skill comprehend worked so I battled him 5 times for his skill😭
i want a tian ying sword trial lol
also also ppl allways seem to leave after 1st boss
so like we have to scramble to form annother team that is willing to join at phase 2 and hardly anyone does
I keep both beginning and 2nd phase checked so I join the 2md phase sometimes
me when the flame wraiths come sprinting to the general
Void king is messy in co-op, he always stays surrounded by the tornadoes
me when i get res'd in void king but my body is outside the circle so i just take additional dmg while im tryingn to stand up 💀
People seem to always forget to full heal in the panacea skill before engaging again.
Well as long as they have fun, but mind the revives a bit, we only have 5
Do items from the store actually exist within the world at large, for instance the waterlady script that lets you edit your face
People don't tank properly.
There's a reason you know who he's targeting, tank is supposed to control mechanics placements
Please use other channels if you don't mainly talking about the lore
||But why does QianYe recognize Aunt Han? Do we know this?||
There are only some small hints and fan-theories
I see, cause at times the game seemed to hint at a very deep connection between the two, or am i tripping?
The most favorite and likely one is that both once worked for the same group or job/task
And Qian Ye remembers the face Aunt Han once used back then
BUt aunt Han is the water goddess/lady, right? the one who changes the faces
The conversation in the shop made it clear for most of the ppl in cn that they might know each-other, but some also say that the conversation was mostly "normal"
I personally believe that Qian Ye 100% knows her or at least the face she saw back then
Who is Qian Ye again?
I don’t remember seeing that name anywhere in the story 😂😭
the woman with the scythe
OH that’s her name
I remember now lol
About Qian Ye
Spoiler from the newest PV for the chinese-version:
||After almost 1 year, she is coming back and will appear in the Main-Story Quest||
but still, i really can't wrap my head around all the aurate pavillion. I haven't reached Kaifeng yet though. I Want to continue but i am too worried i missed things
Don't worry about that much
You will be able to gain every important information or lore after completing Kaifeng too
Or you can simply ask here too
for example, the reason why Aunt Han was doing the face changing in the first pace, was to help the spies from infiltrating in the Khitan army, right?
but if that is the case, why is the Aureate Pavillion so adamant on finding these spies (and, i imagine, kill them?)?
They are not khitans
like, what do they gain by chasing down people who once fought the enemy?
Because they know very important stuff
And they want to make sure that none of them should be able to share those sensible information
Ah, that's possible, and different from what i thought
Essentially, these spies were used by the military and are now being prosecuted for their actions because they want hide it
cause i thought (and probably also read around) that the aureate pavilion might have had some connection with the khitans
Well, the whole stuff around teh Khitans and their goals are bit hidden
They also got a very important guy who once worked on those "zombie"-like people
And we don't know how the Khitans will use his knowledge
because, irrc, in the tian ying story we have a situation where khitans and a part of the old dinasty are trying to come to an agreement
that's what tian ying tries to stop by murdering the envoy?
The main goal for him was mainly to save his home-land
Cuz if the envoy would get attacked within that region, the enemy would basically use all of their force
Tian Ying also mainly worked for someone else, he got the task to attack this envoy
The reason for that is a bit more complicated
yeah, and also if the envoy died in Zhou territory, khitans and the other dinasty would have even more reason to join the same side
And it's more about the typical "can we trust them, maybe it's a trap" topic
oh, i see
I can highly recommend to either read some explanations about the chinese-history within that time-period or you can watch few videos on ytube
Some of them are actually not bad
yeah i am doing it ahah
Just very hard to keep all the names in my head
I personally got help from someone else and tried to watch some chinese-videos
making sure i understand things while also trying my best to avoid big spoilers is a big trial ahah
is there a video breakdown or something about all the lore? at least for chapter 1
slowmode test
edit: 5s is okay ig
i sent a pic on Spoiler: Qinghe discussion
I only made a summary for chapter 1 but it doesn't go completely into the hidden lore
It's more a TLDR abt the msq
oh hey mod, i wondered what the violet thingy was. turns out it was for mods lol
wwm lore is so good im genuinely tweaking
i barely understood when i played the chinese version but i did understand its hella sad
i played hexi basically blind and still got sad LMAO
Collect all dark surges and bright tides
True
Do u guys know how to use the toy we got as a reward for doing the tian ying secret ending mission?
i dont see it anywhere in my inventory
Anyone can share how to trigger the last Encounter in Finesteed Hamlet?
i need a small explanation about something, which i didnt get
i finished right now the dark surge fragments and unlocked it seems the true ending for qinqhe in the small hut, he talked about the family "Li" was is the meaning of the whole thing? im kinda out of touch currently, to put everything together, i know the stuff about aunt han etc, but that whole dark surge thing got me quit confused, has someone a explanation about it?
did u find how to use that toy we got as a reward for that quest? u get it along with buddha key
Right so mc is 16 but they can marry.... If we ignore that was normal at that time
And you can customise them to look any age too? 😭
Not really i forgot about it haha
What confirms the MC is exactly 16? All I got is they're definitely at least 16
Same here, but no idea how long it's been, and can't seem to get any more information as of now?
Could be a translation issue, or maybe the devs are intentionally avoiding confirming their age?
And where's the guy who raised us?
I bet we'll find that out eventually as the story progresses
I bet this game will keep being peak, just beat legend Qianye
I will join this channel soon after Kaifeng
Hope so, because there's no way they're letting us customise the character with really young/old features and maybe questionable clothing while letting them be 16. But maybe that doesn't count as canon
It's during dialogue with an assassin NPC
I'm curious what the exact diologue is though, see if it leaves any room for interpretation or not
I was half expecting mc to be atleast in their 20s because ||big zhao said that if they were few years older, they both would be fighting alongside eachother, and that battle was also some years ago? And well... big zhao looks like he's in his 30s||
Aunt Han set up the winery 16 years ago when you arrived, and when you arrived you were baby
but its your character dont let the writers timeline and stuff mess ur head too much
Nah, I was just curious! Thanks for the info
When's the next part of kaifeng MQ dropping?
After dao lord
ok i figured out how to use it. its on the quick use menu in inventory. u can place it and swing on it with 1 other player or alone
should be today
Oh okay
Ty for the info 👍🏼
so think i just got to the end of the msq. so what/where tf is aunt han doing this whole time?
an someone please explain who this is
We will get more real information about Aunt Han in the Epilogue-Quest of Kaifeng, which will be released probably in 5 months
But those information are more small hints than a actual reveal
dang so the epilogue quest of kaifeng is post ||hexi|| and all that?
||It will be included in the second Hexi-Update/Region||
if they should copy the same schedule as the chinese-version ofc
I just hope the next breakthrough/story update is the final region of kaifeng
do you have a ss of that region
cuz I can't remember if they ever released a new region before hexi
I believe that's the one with the 2 other open-world boss-fights.. I believe they released it before Hexi
wait rly? I can only remember 2
||druken guy, coffin guy, nameless general and sea monster/god of the sea guy|| boss spoilers
Is uncle jiang the man in black, i just rewatched the games intro
Oh yea, the druken guy
||Yes||
those 3 are whatever to me but still cool however the heavenfall bboss......... my lord
he looks so cool
but my assumption with the updates is its gonna be new year/new bosses > hexi
|| why was he acting like that ||
also whats the deal with the ||snow area|| is that considered a part of hexi?
||mysterious uncle wants your awesome jade because its a McGuffin that will be important later||
Yes, it's the second region
|| oh ok ty ||
||its probably something really important and he choses to take it back because you arent safe if you have it||
|| rewatch the tutorial LOL ||
only one person has that stupid looking ponytail
||He is trying to "save" you by getting the jade back, which he once "stole" at the beginning.
If he wouldn't do that, than the masked-ppl would hunt you for your entire life ||
yes
on a scale of 1 to qinghe how big is hexi
The entire Hexi-Map?
desert
you got the epic chungus fish
Still being hunted it seems
btw do you know if hexi starts with ||anxi general or is that a later hexi update||
||Well, the masked-ppl originally didn't want to hunt us, it was more about MC not listening to Aunt Han ||
this guy hexi spoilers
yo i just finished the newest main story
Yes
when is the next main story update
|| if aunt han is so strong why couldn’t she stop qianye || ?
thank god i saw this guy 4-5 months ago and its what madde me get the game
The Main-Story Quest will not continue for some months
(if todays quest ended there where I think it ended)
I still didn't finish it on global
Can someone spoil me what happened at the end
uh
||money boss||
yes
Alright, then it's finished
so no more main story quest?
im p sure this game is going way faster than china tho
||You got the cutscene at the end with the grandma and then sunshine ||
The first big MSQ will be the region after Hexi
Hexi is not really a Story-Line which is connected to MSQ
i see
whats hexi and whats msq
The end of Hexi however is connected
😭
Hexi is an upcoming update-series
main scenario quest
With multiple regions etc.
and hexi is the next region after kaifeng its like its own isolated story though
oh i see
so were gonna wait for at least 2 months for the next story quest?
story picks back up again after but hexi is still important and super cool
Basically
||- After the Kaifeng-Quest ended, we will get the last remaining region within Kaifeng
- After that, they will release Hexi
- Hexi is splitted into 3 regions. Every region will launch after 1-2 months.
- The second Hexi-Region/Update included the epilogue of Kaifeng. So there is still some stuff left for the Kaifeng-Story
- After Hexi, we will get our actual new MSQ-Quest with a new huge region||
hexi is like the stormblood of wwm bbut like good
when is hexi coming out?
i see
i see, thanks for the info
thanks boys
time to swipe my credit card again
If I remember it correctly, Hexi came out 2-3 months after launch
@mellow horizon can you remind me what exactly is hexi again
That's the map of the first Hexi-Region
no
or nah
||hexi is like a painted world you enter through magic bs or something i think||
Well, that's a bit difficult to explain, cuz the devs tried to tell an romantic story with some creative-ideas
But basically;
||We, the MC, are re-experiencing the stories of several people and learning about the tragedies from other people and the main goal/topic is to find your own home since everyone has their own definition/place of that. ||
This is now very simplified
I once analyzed the Hexi-Song we got #📖lore-chat message
so the first area of hexi is entirely based around the anxi protectorate
You can learn more about the meaning of Hexi
i think hexi is just a very good excuse to go full on magic without spoiling the world too much
Ye, however the general is not playing a huge role
||The first region has a different character as their Main-Topic/Story and the general is only at the end important. ||
Hexi wasn't that popular either in the cn-community, but the last 2 updates completely proved everyone wrong
Especially the conclusion update made everyone cry and hyped
other mmos would make hexi thhe launch update
its like the worldbuilding zone right
Some explanations from the devs how they describe Hexi with their own words:
||"Compared to realism, we chose a more Chinese romantic approach to present the scenery of the frontier . Most of the scene designs in Hexi are inspired by and inspired by poetry. We wanted to recreate the magnificent scenes depicted by frontier poets a thousand years ago. With lone smoke rising high over the vast desert and majestic passes standing under the setting sun, we hope that travelers who set foot here can enjoy these poetic frontier landscapes."||
||"he rolling yellow sands bear the footprints of travelers and heroes, and bury countless heroes and epic tales. In Hexi, we want to boldly break free from the constraints of time and space, and trace the heroic deeds of heroes in the long river of history.||
||For example, you can "travel back" to that turbulent era in its twilight, becoming comrades with the lone army and legendary general who held out in the desert for fifty years; or you can experience the unique pathos of that era in the desert from the perspective of the most ordinary mortals. Great figures and ordinary people, survival and honor, inheritance and sacrifice... Hexi is not just a collection of impressionistic fantasies, but also a wealth of imagination and exploration based on real history and figures."||
imagine if ff14 launched with heavensward and the first expansion was a realm reborn......... but i doubt hexi is anywhere near as bad/ boring
what is region 3 of hexi btw
i know its ||desert and then snow ||
It's more like...
You finished ARR by like 90% and they give you the first half of Stormblood and after finishing the first half of Stormblood, you go back and finish ARR completely
and then come back and finish Stormblood and then you continue with Heavensward
dunno if it makes that much sense, but I tried to explain it with ffxiv terms xD
but from what i understand hexi desert is pretty good and tthen it really picks up in region 2 and 3
Windows Wallpaper
let me see if I find some pictures
i remember now
hexi region 3 is dream blissful retreat core
what is mohist sect region called btw
Third region of Hexi
i always forget the name
Where tears meet the kindom
fire
And that's someone which we meet in the future too
Spoiler for Kaifeng-Epilogue
oop
hexi region 3 map trailer is what got me to play the game cause its such a good trailer
Ye, most of the Hexi trailer are very well done
Especially the songs and osts are one of the best so far
this is ||new tang|| guy right
That's ||Li Yu, the leader of South Tang ||
What exactly?
That's the topic where I don't have the best knowledge of
There is Tang and South Tang but dunno if there was a third Tang sometime back then
ah ok but are tang and south tang different kingdoms
No, he is a lord
||He submitted himself to the song-dynasty and he losed the right to call himself a emperor ||
wuxia dont make the bad guys hot challenge (impossible)
They are seperate
It's a bit complicated cuz it's about the family-tree and that some ppl changed their surnames etc.
||btw his surname is li are they possible related to big bad bug man||
||"Li Yu’s grandpa, Li Bian, changed his surname from Xu to Li and pretended to be Tang.
Li Bian treated Ex emperor cruelly—locked emperor’s family, forcing humiliating incestuous marriages, later had them all killed"
https://x.com/deweibs/status/1993992178729705828
||
South Tang had no real link to real Tang(618–907). Li Yu’s grandpa, Li Bian, changed his surname from Xu to Li and pretended to be Tang.
Li Bian treated Ex emperor cruelly—locked emperor’s family, forcing humiliating incestuous marriages, later had them all killed
#WhereWindsMeet
yikes
so basically ur saying they're just tang for the fashion but actually that girls fake af\
Welcome to the old chinese time-period
btw this guy is the leader of real tang right
Where everyone played with their surnames, somehow tried to gain reputation and land etc.
I mean tbf this didn't only happen in china, almost every other region back then had similar issues and situation
Yes
you really change your kingdom to tang just for fun and suddenly you're important huh
I mean it's not like that they were no-names, it was prob a smart but risky move xD
||And am i right to assume his plan is use the bugs to make everyone in his kingdom super strong and immortal and have a thousand year dynasty and rule the world blah blah blah||
thats what i got from the gleaming abyss quest
This video shows it perfectly https://x.com/deweibs/status/1991865813427691735?s=20
I guess so, we didn't learn that much abt his goals so far besides that one quest
very wuxia
I just like the fact that they are really trying their best to be somehow history-accurate
make the main bad guy aura farm in chapter one and then make him somewhat irrelevant to the main story until chapter 1836
I mean they kinda put the team into that position as the cn-community now has a very big amount of ppl who extremely cares about the accuracy
But my boy Li Yu got completely hated
it makes it very hard to understand and learn when theres sooooooooo much
The whole Kaifeng-Epilogue is prob one of the worst launches xD
Is li yuo based on a real person?
u mean li yu?
this game loves to make guy who wasnt that important or guy who was just used by more important guy into guy whos really important
But Li Yu really did exist back then and his poems are very important in china
cause wasnt ai like a puppet for military people
That's out of my knowledge
til wang qing was a real guy he just wanst that important
Tian Ying was either based on someone or was also a real guy
I hope we get a hexi type situation eventually where we fight prime wang qing
mfw we kill tang emperor but he uses the last of his power to summon wang qing
im sure someone out there has made wang qing in the character creator
out of Naruto Shippuden
I was thinking sekiro
I hope Wang Qing is eventually more than a plot device to Kickstart the story though
Knowing wuxia story aureate Pavillion probably took his body try to revive him as the perfect sleeping puppet
My hope is just we eventually fight Wang Qing or someone with his exact fighting style eventually somehow
Uh, just so you know... That already happened. Wang Qing was taken by the Aureate Pavilion, revived as a puppet, and slain by Uncle Jiang
that's how Uncle Jiang became known as a traitor and father killer
No he ran was tricked by aureate Pavillion to deliver a box to Wang Qing he opened it and died and then was revived and killed by Jiang Yan that'd how Wang Qing died twice
lol
He probably had some time to die after being poisoned which is why he sent Jiang away and then Jiang came back and killed him
Which got him framed and kickstarted the whole story
Somewhere along the way of that stuff happening Jiang got the jade pendant and the player character
I didn't think they could hurt me any more than the ending of chapter 1 but...
did I miss smth? so after messing up the whole of Kaifeng's economy, leading to countless civilian deaths, there's no punishment for the prefect? The gov just kinda open their vault, exchange copper for iron coin and that's it?
If I could strangle him I would. Short sighted moron are always the worst.
But he's awesome and purple isn't that enough
How else do they wage war against the Khitan without scraping the fat off of the civilians?
I blame the yellow man for greenlight this whole fiasco to begin with
I am going to assume everyone will just click and read every censored message because the moderation bot censors more than the freaking game itself.
Tell him to do his job or else I will assassinate him one day for being a moron
I like the part where kaifeng is a city with people in it
But like also there's bad people in it
wait a bit confused who's ||ember of east?||
is ||yingying and the one that did the coin thing we saw at the party the same thing?||
I see
@mellow horizon is weiyang in kaifeng im not exactly sure what that is
Also please god what is gongzi
I don’t remember the name right know
Let me check it tomorrow
Or maybe @dapper nymph my mentor
yea
||ember of east||
Ik weiyang is ofc where the ember of the east and the other spoiler is from im assuming its important because EoE is so revered but im not sure how significant it is. Gongzi is constantly mentioned as something that Bloodhall (whatever that is im assuming its a thieves guild or something) worked with, and also Zheng E and EoE worked with Gongzi.
If someone answers this I'll give you an awesome prize
||She had no reason to tell you and had no idea you were looking for her the only reason youre after her was a letter that was meant for aunt hans eyes only||
But yeah keep it here for spoilers from today ^
MSQ is done for now?
Yeah so next region is like a world building arc
And then the region after that is the main story again
Helloo ! When will the rest of the story be revealed?
Probably next patch
neat stuff. Thanks
Kaifeng story is over for the next couple months
Next we get hexi and then at the end of hexi well shed some light into the end of Kaifeng story and the continue
Ohhh really ??
So we have no more story for two months?
You finished collecting all the dark stories?
Granny turtle’s hat is so happy
every time I see her it breaks my goddam heart
Hexi is still story but if you’re expecting uncle jiang and aunt han and all that it’s gonna be more like 4 or 5 months
Hexi is like
Still super cool tho
no, just the continuation of the main story
I've just finished Zheng Ren questline it was AMAZING! I was on my toes all the time!:) (NO SPOILERS:)
Any idea when the rest of Kaifeng will be unlocked?
The time period for the game is like 960-ish AD right? I know the game told us the exact year at some point, but I don't remember it/can't find it
Yes. When the Song dynasty is founded.
ayo yingying is blonde?
That’s how you know ||she is 💰 💰 💰 💰||
So the next story will be 3 months from now? Damn thats a long wait
Is Big Zhao the guy we saw at the end? The one wearing Yellow/Golden Robe?
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Yes 👍
Noice. Just what I thought. Big Zhou is up there.
Big zhou is basically the actual empror
The one who knows everyone 😂
Really?
Yeah he’s historically the first emperor of the song dynasty
Big Zhao is the founder of the Song dynasty
Yeah
A fellow bot
I really like the gameplay and movement while we're running up the furnace so action-packed
Yh it was rlly good
Had me sitting on my nerves tbh
Spoilers for anyone who doesn't know the full lore from the CN version but ||Uncle Jiang is actually the horse Clip-Clop||
Shut the front door
I just finished the story. Fck I hate saying goodbyessss
Old Chinese proverb: Goodbye is actually just hello but in reverse
absolute cinema
Anyone who played CN ver can confirm: can we see big Zhao again in the future?
And what happened to Little Shou, Little Fu, and Little Lu? 
rest is when?
check your mailbox 😼
Ong they are cute
can someone explain to me who/what khitan are, what weiyang is and why granny earlier on in msq mentioned "so many emperors come and go" (and she collected coins from their time). Is big zhao's brother like an emperor? who was the ruler before him? i'm so lost
im so lost, is kaifeng like a country? is quinghe under them?
is water wet?
Big Zhao is the emperor. Kaifeng Prefect is Big Zhao's brother. Khitan were a historical nomadic people from East Asia and parts of North Asia who, from the 4th century, inhabited an area corresponding to parts of modern Mongolia, Northeast China and the Russian Far East. (Wikipedia)
Kaifeng is the capital of Song Dynasty. The reason why many emperors come and go because Song dynasty is founded in Five kingdoms and Ten dynasty period in China. This is when in just a short period, there were 5 kingdoms were founded and they all used Kaifeng as their capital
I recommend you look for a clip about this period in China so you can understand the lore better
Bruh, do you not pay attention to the story? First of all, why would the government care that much about someone from the jianghu? Second, Yingying was abandoned by her master, which is why she ended up in Kaifeng. She’s currently planning to go back and reclaim her power and influence. As for why the emperor didn’t do anything, it probably has something to do with Later Tang and the Aureate Pavilion. It’s politics, bruh. And it’s not like they’re doing nothing, lmao. The Kaifeng prefect literally used us to deal with it.
The game is around 960 Ad ish so it was the time Song Dynasty wanted to take 16 districts back from the Khitans. This was one of the chaotish period in CN
In the book we get after beating the main story, it’s explained that the emperor is currently focused on the whole mess with the Khitan, while his brother, the prefect of Kaifeng, is the one dealing with the issues in Kaifeng.
bro, im reading these dialogues and i dont understand who is who and what is what. typical dialogue in this game is "Ember of the East xxxx Weiyang xxx Heavenly Dragon Golden Wonderful Beautiful Super Smart Sounding Name and they went to Forsaken District to XXX XXX XXX Terrible-Sounding Dread-Inducing Name That You Won't Understand
that's why i am here trying to understand what's going on
She only has three names... Ember of the East, Wuque, and Yingying. It's not that hard.
Kaifeng is still a city today btw you can just google maps it
now multiply it by number of characters we meet and you might understand where my confusion comes from
Well I'm not confused lmao.
Like after the introduction in reverly hall i thought lord dao (?) is master of the nine-sneaky-group-guys, then they turned out to be children (that can fight better than most adults)
🤷
i need to watch some lore yt i guess
they are
Nitpick you got it the other way round it's 5 dynasties 10 kingdoms 
they're still the leader of nine mortal ways, just hiding behind the getup and voice. inherited it from their dad
jesus
hey big zhao is really an emperor?
What is we here 😭
the mc lol
I think mc origins aren't confirmed yet
mc's origins are unknown still
Li zuo is the remnant of the tang dynasty
I can imagine for people not aware of history, southern tang and tang are gonna confuse people...
MC is probably related to the previous dynasty. The son of the general perhaps or something.
based on setting and some historical facts, i wouldn't be surprised if the jade mc had is the missing imperial seal that got lost around end of tang dynasty/five dynasties and ten kingdoms. but this is just speculation
is it the time kublai khan invaded china
No 300 years too early
i see
Heirloom seal of the realm?
and can someone explain to me the tang coin thing? after we finished this arc i still dont understand where these coins came from.
my understanding is:
tang coins exist
copper coin exist
fat guy is working behind the scenes to "get rich"
people turn to tang coins due to lack of copper coins
government ban tang coins
-> multiple times in the story it is mentioned that there are episodes of resurgence (additional coins pouring in), campaign also mentioned that they are connected (come from?) the underworld
how come so many of them were confiscated and the coins still kept coming?
i'm lost how tang coins are in abundance
It's supplied by the Later Tang dynasty who want to mess with Song.
Historically the khitans founded the liao dynasty in the north, then the jurchens (manchu ancestors) conquered them founding the jin dynasty, and finally the mongols conquered them founding the yuan
are they? : O i totally missed that? was this mentioned in the campaign or in some lore tidbit?
We definitely have connection with Li Zuo.
Southern tang kingdom
Nah the imperial jade has different design I think
so basically foreign adversary is giving us tang coins to mess with our economy and cause unrest hmm
oh right, it's an actual seal design, nvm
Southern tang and later tang are different 😂
alright but are the people living in kaifeng "kaifengian" or are they all chinese and we just beefing coz of bloodlines and territories?
you say that because of void king right?
He was collecting Tang Coins to melt down into Copper and Iron. He was using the Iron to arm people in his army and hoarding all the copper coins he minted. This led to Copper coins being extremely limited in supply leading to all the problems you see in Kaifang.
Yes but also from the trailers where there's that scene where MC turns into Li Zuo. So like what are we? A copy?
The coin situation is what the southern tang messes with song
how come you guys know this? was this explicitly said or did you learn that from some lore tidbit?
Kaifeng is the capital city of the current Song dynasty occupying the north. In 20 years the Song historically will reunify China minus the 16 northern prefectures
They flooded tang coin in to mess with the eonomy and buy all good stuff in song
I guess it’s implied. We're also drawing from real Chinese history.
is the song dynasty & kaifeng big in territory right now? how big is their "reach" within china? we have bandit camps spread all over the map so i had a feeling that this is a city-state given how you feel threatened at every point
but i guess they are a big deal?
The song dynsty wanted to prevent that so they probit the tang coins. However, bcuz they are preoare for wars so they were lacking of funds so they just took the tang coin but disnt give back the copper coin. People have no money, whole mess
Well, the Song are the ones who end up as the winners. As for the bandits’ presence, it’s half video-game logic, and the other half is that China was in a long, intense war, due to the whole Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms so it makes sense that some people would turn to banditry out of desperation.
alr i got much better grip of the lore rn, thx guys
Just finished the chapter 2. I pretty enjoy it. I like how they metaphor that how the money value based on trust to become the life coin ability to make illusion and hypnotic effect. and the storyline is great too. but I heard that CN folk didn't like this chapter why?
He is the God of Avarice because he consolidates all the wealth around himself thereby ruining the local economy.
Big Z uses us to deal with him because he doesn't want a big scandal and can use it as a segway to introduce fiat currency.
here's a good picture from wikipedia
my subs said "god of avarice" and dub called him "black money" or something, the localization is all over the place T_T
southern tang and song were beefing around that time
We're going to Chang'an in the future! 
Overview of the times:
Tang Dynasty falls and China is split into pieces as warlords carve up the empire.
5 dynasties in the north:
Later Liang > Later Tang > Later Jin (ceded 16 prefectures to the khitans) > Later Han > Later Zhou > Song (you are here)
The 5 dynasties occupy the large central plains with luoyang/kaifeng as their capital.
10 kingdoms:
Occupy the rest of china, southern tang (the one flooding coins into kaifeng) is one of them
Currently it is AD 962, unified Tang Dynasty fell in AD 907. It is a very chaotic period
jesus khitan empire is BIG
khitan were basically proto mongolians
Such is the mongols
Mostly empty also
Well the land is not very good for farming no wonder they're forced to invade other lands.
is that mongolia + koreas or am i tripping? the khitans?
the tippy thingy is chinese but koreas are not that far
Yes. Most of the population center of the Liao are in the 16 prefectures and further north east (liaodong, manchuria)
Korea is further north east
The Khitans in history they took a big portion of land from old Korea
It did become the largest empire in history by land mass (it isn't the most successful, just big).
i just googled, they did indeed take some part of NK
Khitan culture is extinct but they are known to be related to mongols genetically
This whole thing reminds me of the bill wurtz video lol
by land mass it's british empire tho, right? by like 1/3 bigger than monogol empire
The mongols have invaded again!
And the old Korea they submitted to.Khitans for almost 100 years until the Khitans was destroyed
or do i have my facts wrong
Borders are fluid over time so it's not surprising. There was a time gorguryeo (ancient north korea) once extended way into modern north east china
Landmass should be mongol empire, but they're not the same as the khitans it is british empire indeed
India is big I guess 🤦♂️
googled:
British Empire - 35.5 (million km2)
Mongol Empire (24.0)
Russian Empire (22.8)
Qing dynasty (14.7)
And canada etc.
yeah australia etc.,
Largest contiguous land empire then 😂
tang dynasty was bigger than macedonian and ottoman empire (separately)
jesus, what am i learning today
You should see in population proportion though, top 3 are all chinese 🤣
History~
Yes and no. The Mogul Empire controlled most of the Eurasia continent at its peak.
The British Empire had more territory, but it was split across several continents and you could make an argument Britain was two Empires (The Crown and East India Trading Company).
ok last question - who was the guy at the beginning of the story? i forgot his name. jiang?
he saved us i guess? who is he to us?
He's effectively your adopted dad
or is he some typical wushu wuxia intro story character that was inserted
he disappeared right? do we know if he still lives at this point in the story?
Since this game is wuxia based on history so those asura wrath boss fight are just metaphor things for game?
we assume yes, right?
Is that true? Like in CN? Chang'an's importance declined drastically after the Tang Dynasty sadly. I just visited xian myself a few weeks ago 😂
That list doesn't cover it
There was a dude from Iraq forgot he's name
And he almost controlled the globe
These times tho there are people behind the curtains that control a buckload of lands even more so than the British Empire
uncle jiang isn't a historical figure, but yes he's alive and implied to be the guy that stole the jade off of us
Thats a major motivation of mc now. Looking for his adopted mom and dad lol
He disappeared yes, but it seems implied he did it to protect you.
Jiang Yan. He is the adopted son of General Wang Qing. He’s a very good swordsman and used to belong to the Well of Heaven. However, over a decade ago, General Wang Qing died because he was turned into a zombie after He Ran unknowingly sent him the Dawn-to-Dusk poison. Jiang Yan was forced to kill him. But the Aureate Pavilion spread rumors that Jiang Yan killed his father, which led to him being hunted. For some reason he found the MC and the jade. He ran away afterward and met Aunt Han. He then raised us in Qinhe for over a decade before he was called to save Tian Ying.
He's not a real historical figure, but he's a pretty famous guy in WWM.
damn im getting censored, i need to be more polite, apologies
😭 😂
I mean we never saw a body
and who were the ten (?) flames or w/e they were called that the guy with big sword talked about? were they kaifeng-aligned or khitans?
it was said that he fought them or something and befriended one
I hope she is dead from a story perspective but... Unless you see a body Ruby can always come back.
As for Aunt Han, she used to work with the Palace of Annals. Her job was to help spies change their faces using her abilities. Her alias was Water Lady. However, at one point she had a disagreement with Chu Qingquan, likely because she didn’t want him to leave for the north to become a Faceless as well. She and Chu Qingquan fought at the tower, but Tian Ying used that chance to steal the Water Lady scroll. Feeling betrayed, she cut ties with the Palace of Annals and with Chu Qingquan. After that, she met Jiang Yan and the baby MC. Seeing that Jiang Yan didn’t know how to take care of a baby, she offered her help and became our second parental figure.
oh and we still dont know who the butterfly inducer (lady? man? inbetween?) is, right? in the beginning of the story there were a lot butterflies/moths that corrutped guys, but then we never saw it again
That's likely Li Zuo.
I mean there's a reason why uncle jiang and aunt han don't really help mc with getting into the Jianghu. It's a place of debts and grudges, pretty much. ||And ruby's very much dead considering you see her in the dream blissful retreat cutscene, alongside npcs talking about her being dead, in heaven's pier||
i absolutely forgot that aunt han is water lady...
Yeah, both Jiang Yan and Aunt Han don’t really want the MC to enter the jianghu. Aunt Han even more so, since she doesn’t want us to learn martial arts at all, while Jiang Yan still teaches us some basics.
okay and what is jianghu? it's the name of the in game world, right? but they also say "live jianghu life" - is this like "live ghetto life"-type of thing? are there "borders" for what is widely considered a jianghu? or is it a lifestyle? sometimes i feel like they refer to it as a land, sometimes as a way of life
It's not an actual place. More like a backdrop of martial arts society, with people kinda having their own creed and honor seperate from regular civilian life
so by entering jianghu they mean entering a lifestyle of martial artist and all of that entails in that period & politcal climate?
There's a post on reddit on this
“Jianghu” literally means “rivers and lakes,” but in wuxia it refers to the martial world, the community of martial artists and wanderers who live outside government authority. It's not a "real" place.
Jianghu are similar to guilds in a fantasy setting. People who pursue martial arts in hopes of becoming immortal (remembered), personal gain or simply the freedom it affords them.
right. im so far removed from all the eastern lore apart from anime that i'm playing a quick catch-up. but no worries, i'll sit down tomorrow and read more about it. if i managed to wrap my head around wh40k this won't be an issue
thanks for chipping in guys
Backdrop is a good way to see it I think... just like the rivers and lakes
It's a way of life more than it is a thing or place. The Sects exist only to consolidate power and give them enough power to be respected by regional powers.
Is there a novel to which the game's story is adapted?
Enjoy 🫡 the time period in this game is pretty uncommon in media too, a breath of fresh air for me
No, it's original
Though it makes a lot of allusions to other media and literature
No it's original story
I mean you can read chinese history too I guess lol
Eh it's derivative. There is a lot of Wuxia in Chinese media and a few have moved into western audiences.
if they made Absolute Reign into a game id play it as well
Today's story || ying ying was the ember of east with white hair at the velvet shade scene?||
yes, ||it was implied in an earlier story cutscene where lord shi was wondering if he recognized her. also they share the same face but different makeup/hair||
Wait the ||guy with all the velvet shade ladies around him was yingying?||
if you're not caught on the latest story, do it now
|| ah and she left her home? Idry she adopted turtle grandma||
what will happen turtle grandma
No no I’m caught up I just didn’t realize because idk
Oh, then yea.
I thought the bro is just like someone else that was stepping in for her
And yes, ||she's originally from Weiyang||
Not that they’re literally the same person
If you finished the Kaifeng story she is ||at the wheatwind bazaar boundary stone. She gives you another turtle and you can slip her money secretly||
the biggest jumping out my chair plot twist i ever witnessed 😭
ye i did that but i mean after yinying left she will be alone 😢
Little fu will keep her company I hope 😭 or we will until the next campaign unlocks.
i just thought oh maybe she was someone of nnobility
not that she was the floating couch woman 💀
No fr, i was GAGGED. Then i was even more gagged that a game gagged me lmao
I thought the floating couch woman was a man so imagine my surprise LMAO
ngl, i did as well
i went back and forth a few times
And I thought the ember of east when we first get to revelry hall was a lesbian 🤣
the bad translation was not helping
when next campaign will unlocks ?
I thought he was a Sephiroh lvl pretty boy 
3 months probably
what
Yingying said wait three months for ||news from velvet shade||
Guys - YingYing or Bai Rong? 
i thought that was the 3 month with game time lol
We will wait for Season 2 this coming February 2026. A long wait
its indeed long wait
Bai Rong wins for me
Yingying can easily win on one condition: she dresses up as the couch woman
Bai rong for mw
||can anyone explain to me what the ember of east is im kinda confused||
Man i hope nothing ||bad happens to Shi Yimo||,|| i already miss Ruby||.

same
I hope they actually give us some content to do till new season...
While skipping and stuff what I barely understood is
There is an east and west
The west one is the fatso we offed
The east you already know
I assume there is a north and a south as well
Maybe northeast northwest and every other direction
Wait where were we again
Hopefully they will drop the last Kaifeng area before then 😭 and then there are some side quests for us to do
We are where winds meet
Ngl couldn't hold a straight face while writing this
As I Said before
Wind never meet sadly
Science taught us that
They follow each other like a children's queue in a school cafeteria
It's called turbulence, and we are in turbulent times 😎
the Chinese idioms we see in the game
Nah, the chinese idioms are great
-_-
I really liked the one big zhao brought up, english can't do it justice
"Can't martial arts be an art of peace"
Which was that
Sadly enough it can't
Does anyone know what the current year is in WWM? I know that it's in tenth century China, but nothing else date wise. 🙁
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Speaking of Big Zhao, we never got to see his group again. Their group when they first appeared in the game. The ones who unleashed the chickens and ducks 🐣
I laughed so hard at that part
Guys the|| money god fight doesn’t actually give you echo jades right ||
are we able to go into the northern part of kaifeng now or is that still locked?
Nope
I tried hoarding the dropped gold and got punished for it
That’s fine lol I have healing to get through it. Does it actually give you the gold tho?
At the end of the fight I got a report card with 200 stolen gold I think
Greedy game
As soon as I saw the 10 chests pre boss fight I was happy
Once I opened em I was flabbergasted
Man's just god of fortune, not jade emperor 😭
Fortune is a universal word
Can contain gold pearls and jade
But greedy game only gave us one
Damn so sad
Any update about the release date of new chapter after kaifeng city quests?
Someone said February in another channel
It does tho
It doesn’t 😭 I just ran it and checked my balance before and after… picked up all the coin piles too…no difference
Got about 50 in a run collecting everything once
Wait there is hope?
I tested twice, can do a third to triple check ig
Pleaseeee
Is it in the menus somewhere? Because I picked up all the piles my echo jades balance is the same as before, even tho it said it gave me echo jades
I’m a pure healer build so his attacks doesn’t even phase me 😂 I just want money
i just checked my bag before and after fight in campaign to be sure
no way u got the jades lol