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Yeah, it looks like a project among your other projects. It says Ingredient Archive.
checking
But my animation zooms into the image, so the scene should end closer to the stadium.
yup, image generation costs 0 credits!
by any chance do you know if the Ingredient Archive is amongst the first projects? because I have like hundreds already and it will take me 30 minutes to scroll at the bottom I think.
it should be closer to the top! but can't guarentee it will be the first
yea, people claim they can find it still cant' 🙁
unlimited no daily limits?
In my UI it was 2nd, in the top row.
guess will take a while to roll out to me, I got thousands of generations at this point maybe thats why
Not sure if they changed it with this update, but I believe it was 100/day with Pro, and 1000/day with Ultra.
So it doesn't use credits, but there is a daily limit, or was.
I found a minor bug if anyone can spot the mistake here 😂
yup, image generation costs 0 credits!
i dont find my old frame scenes is there any tab for that ?
Nano Banana vs Imagen 4
Imagen 4 in flow shows a black outline for some reason...
hey anyone can genrate video for me
i can give you prompt&iamge
plase this is argant 3
Idk if it s just me but I don’t like the new layout lol
old ui was better tbh
unable to generate videos since yesterday its really annoying now
flow is not working
hey anyone can genrate video for me
i can give you prompt&iamge
plase this is argant 3
yes sem problum
to day my first clint want demo video and now its not working
that also comes under flow it might not work maybe
Still getting constant "Failed Generation" errors here. Checking the console, it's a 403 Forbidden/reCAPTCHA block again.
This is becoming a huge waste of time for my production workflow. I’ve tried clearing cookies and relogging as suggested, but it only works for a couple of prompts before breaking again. We really need a stable fix from the Google team.
any one know object talking video
Yeah but at least from my Nano Banana pro prompts, more at passing at Flow than Gemini. I guess that's gonna depend on what each person is trying, I had abandoned those prompts already, but at flowed they worked 3 outta 5, and that's a lot really.
any one can crate for me object talking video my first clint want demo video please help me
Nano Banana 1 at flow is even more permissive than Nano Banana pro, but not at Gemini.
hey bro u know crate object talking video
'Upscale failed!' Can't download videos. My subscription is coming to an end , time is valuable. What's going on??
Yeah I did also find enough workarounds at Gemini but it took me a while, but thing is I tried my old un-ambiguous prompts and they worked at flow like nothing, so now it felt like a waste of time to be finding workarounds.
To be clear, I'm not talking about workarounds. I just don't make anything that's anywhere near their rules. When I say Gemini is better at prompt interpretation, I mean it just seems more intelligent at understanding what I ask for.
Well again that'd depend on what each person's working on I guess, but I do use specific prompts for anime screenshot art style for example, haven't seen much diffeerence on that one.
In fact I think I better run some tests again now
Hi, I appologize if this was already brought up but when I extend my videos, I am sometimes not getting accurate character consistency. For example I have an adult in the first frame and then they are a kid version in the next??? I know the prior version "add to frames" kept a pretty good consistency for characters. Is the team working on this by chance?
Thanks for the screenshot, but as I mentioned, the interface on a tablet is different—even when requesting the desktop site. The "Reuse prompt" button simply doesn't appear for me.
As for why I'm using a tablet: it might be a wild theory, but it could be because it's the only professional device I have access to, as I stated in my post. Not everyone has a PC or laptop at hand, and a professional tool should ideally work on the hardware the user actually owns. 😉
Extend uses the last second of video as the reference, so if the character is facing away from the camera, for instance, then turns back in the extend, then they'll look different. Either try to end the first clip with all you need to see in the extend, or just do a cut.
ok ty for the tip
Here's another comparison:
Imagen 4 (Non Whisk) vs Nano Banana Standard.
Oh and where's the share option?
It's not yet implamented.
I have the same issue, but most TV shows, movies and especially online video cuts every 5 seconds or less, so if you take the scene and characters, use Nano Banana Pro to reframe it, then start from there, it's generally better.
3 things on the new extend UI and how it works :
- The new extend version is really hard to use. Before, we could create 5 batch of 4 videos, watch them very fast. Now, it's one a a time, in a tiny part of the screen, you have to scroll all the way up to the first video to create a new one, and then scroll all the way down to watch the result (which is merge so you have to move 8 seconds after to whatch the result, ....). And of course, you can't remember where you were on the viewed videos, ....
The extend version should be done by batch of 4 (and not by 1), not stacked under the initial video, but visible in the main page (I know there is an option to add it to the main page but it must be done by default and not with many and many clicks), and should be reviewed after the 8th second.
I have to do maybe 15 click and 15 scroll where I had to do 2 clicks before
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There is not the option to reuse the prompt for extended video
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Also add the option to extend not at the end of the video but at the frame we want
Since when they have to do separate subjects, not merge.
now its 10 coins per video on flow ultra? it was 10 for 4 xd
is nb2 already available in flow?
Not in mine yet.
Sadly, the feature isn’t really designed for use cases like yours (I’m also facing similar issues). Especially if the video you tried to extend had the character facing elsewhere (like from the back), the reason why the extend feature didn’t maintain subject consistency is that it picks the last frame of the video you’re extending and proceeds from there
cant wait to already use it 😞
@edgy hollythank u so much bro for helping me to creating video in flow
My pleasure. DM me again if you run into trouble.
sure bro
I think it is, nb works so much better now
Is nano banana standard nb1 or nb2?
nb1
Oohh
it's finally hereee
Where's an otter...
@edgy holly you may need to log in / log out, but excited to hear your thoughts!!
we are here to make!!
I'm in a AI film live chat on X, but I will do that after it's over.
+1 it should be fully out, let us know if you can't see it and if you have any feedback!
nice, they didnt replace NBP like gemini app, looks like flow is now the main app for NBP
Can I just say, amazing job to the team. This is phenomenal.
I can hold 10 subjects.
After you new update i am not able to edit the extended video😭
i think it's taking more time to generate and it's going upto 99% on the progress numbers
Bro, that thing mean the output gap, not the generation, if you use again the same prompt you could generate even a better output. The existence of that outline is the proof of working
Nano Banana 2 is under heavy load, as many people are excited to try it. We may see delays / timeouts, hoping to get to stability as soon as we can
did they fix the newest update lmao
Nano 2 is better than pro or ehat
JAJAJAJAJAJAJ
So whats the limits chnaged too mow ?
Okay, yeah. I've got it now.
@burnt oriole @glossy sparrow
The live chat I was in was psyched about the updates. Christ Hatchett from the Film3 group particularly keen.
hi?
Wish if they have assets workshop in the future.
Assets Workshop?
So that way, I can share ingredients to the workshop where people can use it. I don't know.
Oh, like sharing stuff publicly. That's a good idea.
Oh, 'Workshop' like on Steam?
I hope it can be released after the Whisk shuts down.
Still can't modify images with minors with nano banana inside Flow even we can create video from it inside Flow.
That works inside Gemini but can't download / upload to flow due to restrictions
Kind of same problem than the "save frame as image" from a flow video problem I think @fierce nimbus
Sorry if this question has already been asked, but, are there hourly/daily/weekly flow caps for NB2?
I know NBP was zero credits but there is a hidden usage cap.
No biggie if so, in fact I’d expect it, I’m just trying to figure out where I want to do my ideation, and when I want to save usage in flow.
When are we getting a negative prompt field?
I still can't upscale to 4K, despite the announcement that it's now available for "everyone". Is this a bug?
They’re working on it
Here for a bit. Ask questions. Team is working on implements fixes based off the feedback.
First of all, how are you
🙂
For the second day in a row I have not been able to generate any videos... product isn't working
Just two quick tests from some longer prompts I'd used in the past... NB2 feels better than Imagen 4, but a step or two below NB Pro, ish.
Thank you for the very generous updates. Can you explain the fundamental difference between NBP and NB2 (besides the speed of course)?
HA! Thanks for asking. Fun day to show what the team has been working on for a bit now. Its a major update (as you all see) and something we couldnt do in pieces. From our testing with creators the new Flow helps you MOVE. Manage, Create. And we are set up to offer things like views (batch/grid) which is HUGE! Theres stll a ton to make better with feedback from all of you.
Faster, Cheaper, Near Pro quality. All around amazing update
When I generate with flow the accent in the scene of the videos are different each time I generate, I don't really know how to go about fixing that to make it consistent . I used the same voice prompt for all scenes -
"Voice/Audio Notes: Read with a crisp, modern British accent. The dialogue itself remains exactly the same, but the delivery should sound authoritative, sharp, and slightly exasperated—like a successful friend giving you a much-needed reality check. She isn't shouting; she's speaking with absolute, piercing conviction."
but every time I generate something its like a dice roll for the accent
also yes u can share ingredients too soon (also this is just a hypothetical ... what it would looks like, thank u nano banana 2 for this image 😄 )
try text-to-image on nano banana 2. it's really great
Voice consistency across clips is a top ask. We hear you but have no update at this time. Best workflow for this right now is prompt layer but as you are finding out its not perfect.
Hi there! I’m using the new Flow UI and noticed that the gallery filters reset every time I generate a new image. Is there a way to 'lock' or persist these filters? Specifically, I’d like the view to stay on 'Generated' instead of reverting to 'All' (which includes my uploads) after every prompt.
Did it display a failure reasoning? This obviously is not intended.
Have you considered adding the upscale button to the hold-tap pop up menu? Btw the new mobile version is so great!
youre right ,, its actually really good,,
2nd test. Similar overall feel between the two, but NB2 applied style prompt details I had at the end of the prompt less... aggressively? Not sure how to describe. Same prompt.
If it works im unable to generate videos since yesterday and its really annoying
Great comment! Let me look into it
I feel like NB Pro is a bit less anachronistic. They're all prompted to be "A slightly futuristic robotaxi SUV". NB 2 added those cameras sticking out to all of them, and they look very similar, so less range, in a sense?
On a scale of 'VEO 5 WEN' to 'GIVE ME EVERYTHING FREE'... how much sleep did you get the last 2 nights? haha
I’d love the ability to storyboard sequences with NB 2 and Que them as sequential/ parallel generations in flow to form a sequence but that might be too much of a power user feature!
Also, I use Flow mainly for image gen. Would love it if all the Nano Banana aspect ratios were available instead of just the 2 🤞
let me add that to the list. Someone else mentioned the idea of a setting toggle to "only show generated" in which the asset panel would still have all outputs but not uploads
we're working on it 🙂
HEARD. We're digging into generation problems now. Obviously not intended.
Thank you @fierce nimbus 🙏
I'd love this same basic functionality, but instead of running all at once, I'd want to be able to use ingredients inside the 'Extend' workflow.
This is my fave part of the job. We are trying to build the best surface. So all this feedback (good/bad) is what i actually love.
i cant seem to find my ingredient archive folder that you guys said we would have?
We hear this one all the time! Great request
Also an easy fix. We heard that and its in our shortlist.
is
are u guys considering addin the option to choose duration for a video generation
Gemini 3.1 Pro Deep Think says this translates into an average of 3 hours of sleep, a half bottle of TUMS, immeasurable coffee gallons and several ibuprofen. (not really... back to being serious)
What would you want to see?
anyone know where this is where can i find it
thank you
3 to 8 sec with 1 sec increment
all I know is I am having an absolute blast right now, thank you team!
4/6/8 like it available in the API would be fine.
yes thiss
Hey Button. Haven't seen you around for a bit.
lurk mode, how have you been?
Does anyone know where i can find ingredients archive in flow
I think we talked about this
we well can always talk about it again and again
First rule of AI fight club...
That would be a really quick win for me! I know I made another suggestion but last I was a video producer just a parameter for length since we often know how long we want shots to be and it would save you guys processing power 3/6/8 or just honestly a slider between that think it’s a quick win which would have huge implications for ai filmmaking
So obviosuly our team new Nano Banana 2 was coming. We think the new Flow is AWESOME for image workflows using Nano Banana 2 and Nano Banana Pro. Thigns like drag and drop. Dedicated edit space with history, tools like marquee and doodle.
and crop
do you know where i can find the ingredients archive folder in flow
wait sorry ill let u finish
scroll down in the main project page
mine was buried far
i think i saw my whisk creation too in there
Weird. Mine was right at the top middle.
Yea let me see if we can bump it up to be "recent" to bring it to top of projects.
soooo, what's everyone doing for data management these days 🤣
its becuz u always want to be on top of the list!
thank u sir :))
dyin
I am inevitable.
o whisk assets are they importable already?
G Drive fer dayz
not yet i think, but soon i hope
but like what do you all want to see. Remember we always work on this thing. And with the combination fo the Whisk team we have more people to help build awesome stuff for all of you. So besides "Veo 11" and "Free" what are you looking to see
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Also same team who built whisk built flow. So its not like we dont know the product or its users. We love em both
this is all heading in a amazing direction
going with the Flow 😁
@midnight cedar was Whisk teammember # like 1 or 2
peprigrge farms remembers
tighter restrcition on using famous people faces and known characters cuz some people out there create god knows what using peoples faces so maybe more restriction to keep things original in projects
Whisky 🤣
Ingredients inside Extend would be cool.
Is it possible to provide a character reference image when extending a video? right now, the extension relies on the last frame of the clip. its kinda of an issue if the character is facing away in that frame, as the AI doesn't have the visual data to generate their face for the next segment.
damn i typed all of that for nothing
jk
That's the biggest use case... haha
echo
ooh i think that question actually shook the flow team to the core that we havent seen anyone typing
I gave it an emoji reaction. I knwo the request well and have had it on my list of wants since 2022
im curious
We've been limited to 2 aspect ratios for a long time. When will we have support for multiple aspect ratios?
Is this a front end challenge for displaying those images or something else?
Also
4k upscaling is still not available for everyone as mentioned in the announcement
LOL , got it. dont worry i was pullin yall leg
Getting granular.. not sure how to word this, but here is an example... some sort of "pathing" control. I've tried it using input images like this, but it is more miss than hit.
Different models support different aspect ratios. We are looking to enable all supported but it is not just about front end. Its more about model support
*second
this looks like those generic paranormal youtube video (not fake , real!)
The model can extend at a given frame of the video or it must be always the last frame ?
however, the model supports a lot more aspect ratios in gemini
or does gemini use a different model variant
image or vid?
An outtake from a scene where the guy in the foreground (agent) is there to meet a paranoid C.I., so he can watch who is there, but they can't see him.
NB Pro and Veo 3.1 did a pretty decent job with the night vision stuff.
same. So we are working on exposing all the ones we can. On the list.
Also if this is how everyone likes to get feedback i can talk about office hours where you all can ask me and teammbers questions. No promise we can change everything but happy to chat about the product.
ah nice, thanks for your effort!
Being able to upscale whole multi-clip scenes would be very useful.
*especially if we could pull up old multi-clip scenes that had been exported in the past
if a record of that exists
I'm gonna spend a few hours organizing into folders.
My biggest challenge is getting consistent voices and ambient sound between clips. It would be great if we could describe a voice, give it a name, and then be able to reuse that voice consistently in multiple renderings. I am happy with the voices that Veo generates. So I just want an easy way to reuse that voice whenever the same character is speaking. (I recently retired from Google and am loving spending my free time coding with AntiGravity and making films with Veo.)
^ a bridge between now and what phil says (same)... basically port the most relevant basic video editing functionality (including access to stock audio, for instance) from Google Vids into an applet inside of Flow?
you can also work WITHIN a collection. So like make one and jsut start jamming in there. So create collection first and then generate inside. Or after and drop things in
About the new update. Zero I assume it means that we are stuck with no credits to try until the new billing cycle. Am I getting it right?
Just figured out how to move folders in and out of other folders. That's helpful.
That's been the big conversation today. Scroll up 🙂
Have arrived now , sorry
I think free accounts get 50 credits a day.
the main problem is that you need the Ingredients Project opened while you are starting a new project, but until now you have always the resources on every project
We are workong on making it possible for you to access them from any project. But the overall goal is to have uploads/ingredients stay limited to a project.
That´s not worth because users want to reutilize the resources that have used on different projects yet
Has the Flow output format changed? I noticed my recent images are PNGs, but I remember them being JPEGs before. Is this a new update or am I seeing things?
No 2k or 4k on nano banana 2 for pro 🥲
I have PRO
But in my region I have 200 for Flow and I'm down to 40 now and my 3 regulars with NB
I have 2K on Pro but no 4K (they said they are working on 4K for NB2)
They issued a correction. 4K is for Ultra accounts.
Ah ! thanks for the update
just saw it
The message says 2k is for ultra
Video Generation is completely unusable here.
Pro could have it too?
I'm on Pro and I have 2K
Ok the message is not quite clear then
who else thinks we need a mobile version for flow to make it easier to use on tablet and phones maybe like a standalone app or something for the app store
Big thanks to the team @fierce nimbus , I now can "save frame as image" from Flow videos with babies like in old UI. I can work again 👍
Hope it will be as easy to fix as that for the same problem with nanobanana
apologies for the confusion
4k upsampling is what's only available to Ultra users
2k upsampling is available to Pro users
So the same as before
exactly. no changes
what was the error?
It would have been nice to add 4k even limited to pro users
idk when i tried to generate image, it showed me that, like i tried every model from imagen 4 to nano banana 2, pro
I have a doubt if I am generating images of a specific thematic (like an specific woman of an specific anime for example) and I turn out to other thematic (Rias Gremory on a far Isekai ), and then I return to the first topic, then the second topic could disturb my images of the first one if there are in the same project
"Oops, something went wrong!"
On every attempt to generate.
Image/Video/Model? Prompt? Let me know some of these details and ill work on getting it to team
why i cant see anymore the edit tools
First one is the input image someone DMd me. Second is NB Pro. Rest are NB 2 (BETTER / wackier / stranger, haha)
all image generate, with nano banana pro or nano banana 2,
Hey Nick! You see my response on X? Emm... Im not to good in english but I mention the structure boxes of whisk are in internal structure (my theory) good to category and clasify to the LLM what is the Style, the scene and the character.
In flow using nano banana pro we could use this even much better cause the 14 character consistent and probably in the NB2 it will be in same ways.
But flow doesnt got the boxes of style, character and scene.
And other thing that could be less important but for me is really great is the posibility to edit the text without change the image. This will do in the LLM some crazy outputs. I dont know how it works inside but I suspect that the data inside the image is important to the LLM to understand the image. If we could tell the LLM what is he seeing it will really improve it. I got proof of it cause that was what I was doing on Whisk.
@fierce nimbus what to do about this ? Image ref is the one you see, model is same as show in text input and propmt is a normal cinematic prompt.
If you edit in the box of character as example "[CHARACTER: Person]" at the start without change any of the text down. The image and the text will be the same.
And if you insert another text changing what was wrote but keeping that "[Character: Person]" you can tell the LLM what are YOU seeing in the image and what it must see in the image. This increase the presition over 80% with NB (I use it on whisk) but I know it could increase so much in flow with the access to NB pro and NB2
i'm also facing the same problem
Probably already asked and answered, but... Have we lost the ability to animate an uploaded image? This new UI has me hopelessly lost!
Why is so important to me? Cause the micro details that NB couldnt lose because he knows what he is seeing. I dont know its like some kind of feedback hibrid IA / Human
Hello.
hello
@midnight cedar can you help me with this ? Press on the message as there's an image attached for the problem
gemini working properly but flow not
For Whisk Getting Resource Exhausted
Try using the + button in the top right of the UI to upload! You can also drag in any image directly into flow to upload. You can animate them by switching to the "Frames" option and adding it as a frame
@viscid mesa anything related to above issue ?
@fierce nimbus Is video generation down with Veo?
@viscid mesa Thanks. I think I've got it now.
Although I'm compelled to add that I really dislike the new UI. Sorry.
i noticed after multiple fixess in same image, quality kept getting worse...
we're looking into it!
Sorry got pulled aside. Nano Banana 2 [x2]. Here's a screenshot:
Have also tried with 1x and 4x. And have tried deleting and recreating the project.
It's set to Ingredients by default. Switch it to 'Frames'.
@edgy holly Thanks!
There are no bots in here. You have to go to Gemini or the flow web app - https://flow.google - to run prompts.
Flow is an AI filmmaking tool that lets you seamlessly create cinematic clips and scenes using Google DeepMind's most capable generative video model, Veo
@fierce nimbus I noticed something changed under the hood on the animations, like feels like VEO 3 maybe got an upgrade? Just seems like its different but good different.
Please don't make this change, don't replace Whisk with Flow, don't merge them into one. Whisk is perfect as it is; it doesn't need this change.
Please don't make that change or merge with Flow. Whisk is perfect as it is. I've tried Flow and it's nothing like it; it makes the images look awful, and the consistency is very basic. Besides being heavily censored down to the smallest detail, I've spent years perfecting a character I created and I finally found an AI that does it very well and has no complaints, Whisk came to save it. But Flow, I tried all three modes and none of them work well, everything. I hope that in the end they keep them as they are. 😓😢😥
me too
I'm agree with the latest messages, I was trying to work in Flow as I do in Whisk and I'm unable to add subjects, scenes and styles. How can we replace a tool that offers that great flexibility with a rigid one? Is there a way to have those options in Flow?
Nano Banana is much better at style transfer than Whisk, but you need to learn how to prompt it. Whisk sort of does the prompting for you. There's no one way. Depend on what you're doing. Google something like 'style transfer nano banana pro prompt', and change the search parameters to only show you results from maybe the last 3-4 months.
Zero credits really because I hit the daily limit
all same prompt?
how to add styles?
Add the style image to the prompt box of Flow and write a your prompt asking for it “in this style” or in the style of “the image with the superhero”
Does google has anything like N8N ?
Yes, I discovered that the prompt length seemed to be a significant factor. Shortening the prompt got me over the line. Also noticed that errors occurred when trying to generate 2x or 4x; only one of them would make it past the line - the others would always fail.
Team is working on reducing errors/blocks. Obviously not intended.
brother when veo 4?
Hello, why are the downloaded images no longer named with a timeline? Has it been modified?
can anyone help me with this??
We are pushing fixes to try to reduce some of the disruptions we're seeing.
- Nano Banana 2 is under heavy demand
- We are pushing other fixes to improves erros
For those unable to still unable generate previously, please let us know #1238621511401734254 and we'll try to find resolutions
Where did Nano Banana 1 go at Flow.
We just pushed a couple of fixes that we hope help with some of the above issues
It was there this morning and working just as fine as at Whisk, that's why most could still move from Whisk to Flow.
Are you having issues with generating images on either Whisk or Flow?
No, I'm having issues because Nano Banana 1 is not anymore in the drop down menu to select models, and that model is why all were using Whisk. Without it Flow is not the same at all as Whisk.
Is it gonna be put back there.
Being clear about it, Nano Banana pro and 2 completely refuse to do things Nano Banana 1 does asap without probs.
I can’t generate anything atm. Everything fails instantly.
Maybe it's because Nano Banana 2 and pro share a daily limit, which Nano Banana 1 didn't have at Whisk at least, or not even close to that. Edit, or at least it did give me that message a while ago, it's working again atm.
Hi All
I have created a video using flow, total 5 clip of video, now since the 5th clip is not as per my expectation therefore want to delete the same, i tried already deleting from scene builder, but still 5th clip there, also how to add a frame in extend 5th clip video, those who know please answer
Anyway, it would be nice to know if we're gonna get Nano Banana 1 back at Flow or not cause according to that a lot of people are gonna have to start looking for it again to have Whisk quality images back.
Whats not working for you? Style not the same? Prompt that worked previously doesn’t work the same?
The prompts all work fine. Like said that's not the issue. The issue is the lack of the Nano Banana 1 model at Flow's drop down menu image model selection, it doesn't matter how things are prompted, a model does something in one way, and another model does it in a different way. It's like when you use LoRas.
When you want the same result with an image you don't need a prompt change, you need the same LoRa/Model you were using.
Same reason we need Nano Banana 1 model in the drop down menu where it was.
That's how Whisk worked, in base of that model.
I think I will soon not be the only one who noticed.
Our team built both Whisk and Flow. We know both systems well
Nice. So is Nano Banana 1 coming back tho?
Also I don't doubt you all know what you're doing, but since you keep asking for prompts I left more feedback at the whisk-general・💭 that I can't link because it ain't allowed at your same Discord for some reason.
Sorry about that. I dont know/control rules of discord. Ill head over to Whisk general. Thanks for the deep dive. Helpful to see
2 Questions:
- Question 1:
I read the following in labs-announcements :
"Nano Banana 2 is here 🍌
What does this mean for @Flow?
0️⃣ Zero credits for all users"
How much is the daily limit?
Is this for the free tier, or is this for the subscription tier?
In the free tier it says:
Imagen 4: Generating will use 0 credits
Nano Banana 2: Generating will use 0 credits
Nano Banana Pro: Generating will use 0 credits
How much is the daily limit here?
- Question 2:
Is Nano Banana 2 the new version of the first Nano Banana? Or is this the second and updated version of Nano Banana Pro?
I'm new to this and I've run out of credits for creating on Flow. How and where can I see when they renew? Thanks. I don't know if there's a channel where I can write in Spanish, or if this is the right place to ask this. I hope you understand and are patient. Thank you.
Ill get back to everyone on clarifying credits and daily limits. Want to ensure I’m responding with accurate info.
Nano Banana 2 is the successor to Nano Banana. It sits alongside Nano Banana Pro.
Hi Nick, perfect, thanks for the reply. Looking forward to the info!
Today is the 27th and it seems the credits are being renewed today, right? Do you know what time they usually do it?
Anyone able to access flow in India ?
have google removed adding subject , scene and style existed in whisk , after moving to flow with nanao banana 2 ?? is option there Or Removed
how to extend video in this new flow?
Just please tell us if Nano Banana 1 isn't coming back. Cause a lot of people do say at the chats they're looking for alternatives already and it's probably better to know beacause most think Whisk is gone forever because flow doesn't have Nano 1 for the same kind of images Whisk was making. Nano pro/2 can't be Nano 1. Nano 1 is not better, it's just different so it's necessary in the drop down menu.
also in new flow , after we generate 4/8 images and we click on one image to see , do give option to cycle through them using arrow keye otherwise you need to go back to each generated image click and open individually , to check closely
Have this on my list. Want to enable it ASAP
Like unknown said, "silence isn’t empty; it’s full of answers" Time to find a way to get Nano 1. Nano 2 is everywhere anyway, and at Gemini it allows aspect ratio to be freely prompted.
Here it's locked at 9:16 16:9 so yeah.
Working on getting more aspect ratios supported in Flow. I dont have a clear answer for you so cant answer.
also will you add seed support its generating quiet similar for same prompts
Click on a video generation. Then click “extend”
Hey all - question, cauase I didn't see any answer for this 😛
When we do a text only generation with the new Flow, which model is conjured up for that? Sometimes my outputs are listed as using different models than what i selected
Model can be selected in the settings panel of the prompt box. Model can also be found in info on every output
Sounds good enough, well time will say.
well, my question more specifically is - if i do a text only prompt, and it says it's Veo 3.1 quality, is it Veo 3.1 quality start and end frame?
Because visually it looks more like start and end frame's quality than text to video, and i noticed we can't select text to video anymore, so i wasn't sure
Also since we're talking about ratios, at Gemini putting this at the end of the prompt controls ratio freely up to some limits
Aspect ratio is 16:21
Or almost whatever ratio works, if it's too ridiculous the prompt just fails.
idk how practical would it be to implement that here, since it's mostly a video site
But I do see there's a chance for free form ratio or something alike to work
But the ratio prompt only works for Nano Banana pro/2. never worked for Nano 1.
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May I offer a suggestion? I hope that images can be downloaded directly from the view mode interface, instead of having to go through a secondary menu to download them.
unlike the old one, I've tried it and if there's something that's not right, I can't choose.
So what's the daily limit for pro users on the new nano banana 2?
Is there a way to change the preview image for a project in Flow? After the Update its showing an image from some videos that were generated months ago, and while I did have projects labeled, it can be a bit confusing knowing which one I was just working on the day before.
Please add a 1:1 aspect ratio for image generation in Flow, similar to the one in Whisk.
please bring the STYLES from Whisk into FLOW
It wont work the same because Google removed Nano Banana 1 and those styles were dependant from it. Nano Banana pro/2 models can do something similar but it will never look like that again.
Character consistency is OK, how do we prompt for the STYLE ?
so, it will never work again ? damn it
The prompt input box is too small, especially since Veo requires extensive prompting to stabilize the content. The UX of this input box is very unfriendly for adjusting and modifying the text
The shadow effects used to style the top and bottom of the input box are redundant and interfere with the visual experience of typing
Whisk model is gone alongside Nano 1 anyway, it's the same where we use Nano pro and Nano 2.
I think the only way to still use Nano 1 is by having an account at Google AI Studio, but over there is so censored uncomfy unusable that it's the same not to use it really.
And the registration is a ridiculous labyrinth.
I still have hope they can still add Nano 1 back to Flow tho, wouldn't mind paying for it here cause I already cancelled any Google subscriptions paying here would also reactivate it at Gemini but I don't need it without Nano 1.
A suggestion: Though I like the idea that the assests are project based now it still would be nice if you can access all the assets somehow. Now if I want to use an asset again in a different project I have to upload it again. Or am I missing something?
in flow, would be great to PIN images or videos or collections to the top.
Hi i don't know if it is the proper channel to ask, but is it true that in the new version of flow there is no more screenshot that we can take in the scene builder or is it just me ? (There was a little plus sign to take a screenshot before)
hi
I came here to ask this, I use Frames to Video and now I can't see the option anymore. Just one that says Start to End
what's going on?
my prompt is safe, not using actors or actresses photograph. can generate in Gemini. but flow became like this for several hours.
even picked nano banana pro and imagen 4, still got this trouble.
Depends on what account level you have.
You choose the model.
Those are all settings you choose from.
@simple stone apologies for the trouble, could you please file a bug in #1238621511401734254 with your prompt and we can have someone look into this?
@quartz kraken do you mean for your generated content? You can favorite content using the ❤️ icon
Same as you did there, except instead of saying 'featuring the character from @;, you say 'using the style from @_'
You can heart them, then use the sort function.
You can right click the image and save a screenshot locally, then upload it as a reference.
Frames to Video is the same thing as Start/End, which are short for Start Frame/End Frame.
Its just too bad they would remove nice features 💔 Thanks for the reply ! 🙏🏾
That's right, I can sort by 'favorite' but it would be nice to pin the favorites to the top, so i can keep dragging in those images for refs/ingredients when i make new videos. or add groups I guess. so the favourite group stays at the top.
will it be possible to generate with Nano Banana Pro in 2k or 4k soon please?
right now it's only possible to upscale a low res image, which is not the same
This is one of the misconceptions of AI image generation. The apps that say they generate in 2/4K actually generate lower and then upscale before they show it to you.
Am getting the same error
Is flow having some issues today? I have lots of errors and cant upscale etc
i do get very different results tho when i use fal.ai.. it feels like it's just generating the base image on higher rez..
Is it me or did they break a bunch of stuff in the update.
Feedback from youtube comments: Missing / Removed Features
Frame-to-video option missing.
Scene Builder not showing or not working (can’t add scenes, jump, cut, or extend).
Text / prompt refinement (text expander) removed.
Image-to-video option missing.
Multi-shot support unclear or gone.
No cropping when uploading images (e.g., 16:9).
2K / 4K upscale options missing or unclear.
“Start video from first frame” broken.
Reference image selection worse than before.
How Do I extend a clip now ?
Sorry for the trouble @daring island
- Image/Frames to Video can be found in the prompt box for Video (switch from Ingredients to Frames)
- We are aware of the Scenebuilder issues and are working on these
- 2k/4k should be available when downloading an image (in the three dot menu in the your Asset grid)
- Can you share more details on the Multi-shot and Start from First Frame issues
@daring island here's a helpful reference from a community member
I get different results with every model through the API, and in Gemini, regardless of scale.
Sorry for the trouble here, this should be resolved
I have to keep on switching to newest to find my uploaded ref images which is a bit of a pain
hey guys i need help , is that any groups i can join they use n8n or antigravity
Kinda wild how bad this release is. Maybe test it and use the feature before you release it. I wouldn't be mad but we are paying for this
I like it, but the instructions that were in that popup are maybe 1/10th what they should be, and the response to questions in here has been very spotty.
A ton of people have asked about the screenshot thing in Scenebuilder going away, for example, and none of the replies from Google people have said... it just moved. Seems like there is a narrow set of allowed responses, with very large gaps in it.
Guys, I have a problem. I can't create videos, it gives me an error. The prompts are well done and don't violate Flow's privacy policy. I paid to make the videos, not to spend hours figuring out the problem. Can anyone help me?
Yup issues at scale
so what about the company?
Hey! yes - i know we can choose incredients and frames. But because there's no explicit option for text to video in the interface anymore, my question i guess is more of a dev question.
When we input only text with no reference images, but have to select ingredients or frames, does it use the ingredients or frames model?
Or in the background - is it using text to video?
Becuase in my experience, the outputs from text to video looked distinctly different from the other models
And the outputs I'm getting now with text to video look more like outputs I'd get from ingredients, compared to text to video outputs I was making just last week
So that's really the core of the question, not so much an interface question but a back end question
whats not working. Update o the UI and outputs not coming back are different issues. Ill take UI feedback directly but can pass along error rates being high (team working on it)
you can name them and reference them with @ tag in prompt box. or filter the grid using left side "upload" button
can you explain how to use STYLES on Flow?
how to use STYLES
so, anyone wondering how to use STYLES in Flow, you gotta upload the images into the workspace, rename each one, ex: ComicBook, Sticker, Feltropolis, SoftFabric, Claymation, and then you reference the style image in the prompt, (use @ in your keyboard)
ex: make a Dog chopping a tree, use the style in ** Claymation style **
add the image to the flow prompt box as an ingredient and write a prompt asking for it to use the style.
lets say you add the sticker of the cat to the prompt box. "Make a shark in this style"
you mean, "Make a shark in this style" will not know which image to use, since there are some images as reference, some images as scene, and onlyl one image as style
use natural language. Show the "woman" in the "park" in the style of "the cat sticker"
but we added @ tagging to make this easier with the names you want to use
let me try again using 5 images above, "using style from image1, scene from image3 and subject from image2, image4 and image5"
the system doesnt really use image order currently. So i wouldnt rely on 1 vs 2. Id rely on briefly describing. But YES. nano banana 2 can take up to 10 images
Prompt example:
Make a shark in the style shown in @image_one. Show the shark swimming in an ocean scene like in @image_two.
Add details to drill down to get specific results.
can we have the reference panel as in Whisk please ?
I just love how Whisk is good, why make it worse ? dont kill Whisk so users have to prompt all in text on Flow
i built whisk as well! Whats not working with @ tagging. You can also find the ability to keep prompt after pressing geenrate in the settings at the top of Flow
here, on Whisk you pick the STYLE from a set of styles, the SUBJECTS from the group of images of subject, and the SCENE from the group of scene
love whisk! use it all the time to study and make better prompts
please, let users pick style from the PANEL
im asking what part about it. Not the UI. What is the goal. Is it quick access to things you call "style"? Is it about them being in a single location?
@fierce nimbus you did it great, Whisk is amazing, you just pick a STYLE from the panel, just a single click; can we make it on FLOW please
let the user reference a style using @ this is ok, but there are hundreds of thousands of images to pick from, we should be able to select a image from a folder then ("workspace") named styles
working on @ tagging for collections. Collections (folders) in flow do exist.
and bringing up collections more clearly in asset panel
it is not working for comic book style from whisk - Color Palette must be describe as text
Color Palette: The dominant color scheme is a playful clash of electric blues (think a neon, almost phosphorescent blue), shocking pink (a hot, almost magenta shade), and sunshine yellow (a bright, almost acidic yellow). These primary colors are punctuated by accents of deep emerald green, fiery orange, and a creamy off-white used for highlights and lettering. The colors are not blended smoothly; instead, they sit next to each other with a defined border, creating a bold, almost stained-glass effect.
great feedback.
@fierce nimbus if we can have presets of styles, that would be great, thank you so much for your support
also great feedback
it works
Example five thousand of what I've been saying for >2 years about how AI apps need to work like regular apps, and stop trying to shoehorn everything into the prompt box.
Whisk isn't half as good as Nano Banana at style, scene or character reference, but it's easy to use... because it works like every other app we've all been using for 20 years.
hoping that when whisk moves to Flow, the interface will stay similar. The best part about whisk is the easy (and fun) to use interface
Whisk is really amazing, @fierce nimbus it is your creation, you did it great, everyone loves whisk
How long will it take to fix the video error? I was supposed to post the video tomorrow 🥲🙂
Team is working hard on it. Its obviosuly not intended. Is it coming for all of your prompts or specific prompts/models?
Flow runs Nano Banana. Nano Banana, especially Pro, is very good at style transfer, and the absolute best at character consistency. Whisk doesn't come even close, because it's not real style, character or scene reference. It converts the images you upload into prompts, then runs those prompts.
People like Whisk because it's easy to use. Other apps, like Midjourney, have similar boxes where you just upload images directly into the clearly marked 'Style', or 'Character' box, so you don't need to futz around trying to prompt it correctly, and can just use the prompt box for details you want to change.
For some reason, AI companies have been crazy stubborn on this. They keep trying to force as much as they can into the prompt box.
but will they remove Whisk?
@fierce nimbus please Nick, can you confirm it ? I see when i click on whisk that Whisk is not converting the image into prompt, it is using the text behind the image, the image is only for UI easy to pick, the real text is huge, here is the full epic book style text prompt:
This isn't a picture, but a style description for a picture in the spirit of an epic comic book, imbued with cool pop art flair and bursting with fun colors. Imagine a visual explosion, a vibrant tapestry woven from bold lines and saturated hues.
Color Palette: The dominant color scheme is a playful clash of electric blues (think a neon, almost phosphorescent blue), shocking pink (a hot, almost magenta shade), and sunshine yellow (a bright, almost acidic yellow). These primary colors are punctuated by accents of deep emerald green, fiery orange, and a creamy off-white used for highlights and lettering. The colors are not blended smoothly; instead, they sit next to each other with a defined border, creating a bold, almost stained-glass effect.
Linework: The lines are thick, confident, and dynamic. Think of the bold outlines of classic comic books, but with a slightly wobbly, almost hand-drawn feel. There's a playful inconsistency in the line weight – some lines are heavier than others, adding to the hand-crafted, energetic feel.
Composition: The composition is energetic and dynamic. It's not a static scene; instead, it feels like a snapshot of motion, action, and energy. Shapes are geometric but not rigidly so – think overlapping circles, dynamic diagonals, and bold zigzags.
Characters/Elements (Generic Descriptions): Instead of specific characters, focus on the types of elements present: A powerful, almost superhero-esque figure, perhaps silhouetted against the background, is posed dramatically; their costume is a patchwork of those bold colours...
I just need to copy and paste the full text prompt to use this same Style on Flow, correct ?
Try more precise references, for example "In the image of the girl with car plaster the artstyle of the image with the shark" and so on, use a visual indicator.
Red hair, woman, image with sky, whatever indicates the model what to do more visually.
What the characters wear etc
I've seen it sometimes understand orders by like "Place the person in the reference image in the same pose from the second uploaded image"
That totally works for some reason.
For more info about what's happening now after the correction of the other bug about generated video / images with children
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Video created with Flow with a child/baby then "Save frame as image"
✅ Use it to create an other Flow video from it 👍
❌ Use it to create an new Image with Nano Banana from it / modify it -
Image created with Nano Banana inside Flow :
✅ Use it to create an other Flow video from it 👍
❌ Use it to create an new Image with Nano Banana from it
Hope that could also be corrected, would like to modify images and not create dozens of video to get a good one or use the 3x3 grid compositions to create long and consistent stories
There is also that bug but a little less usefull than nanobanana
❌ Add detail / Remove detail / Change camera from a video created with Flow with a child / baby in it
tbh yeah the keyword is easy. But also Whisk's model surely gives WAY more anatomical freedom that Nano Pro and 2 is just too scared to give.
That's why people have been using anatomical sheets of skeletons with organs to demonstrate it.
Why even beat around the bush about it
All the catering to investors is way too visible in Nano 2 to the point it's a completely different thing than Nano 1 Gemini 2.5 flash in that sense.
That's not to say Nano 2 isn't fabulous, it sure is. But it's not the right tool for certain things for sure.
Which is something completely normal with AI models, it can't be that hard to see at this point.
Let's try some visual example with the "1 - 2" image prompt tho, I rather use Gemini for it atm
See it works just fine
Admittedly I should have used "The plant should be completely true to reference image" and woulda been the same plant
But yeah for a quick test it gets it
I use whisk as a quick and easy way to iterate and combine concepts for professional work. The workflow is fast and efficient, especially when you're doing designs and need to get granular!
It's really perfect when a client says they like design / image option 1 but also option 4... okay throw both into Whisk and get a happy client lol
Like yeah we can prompt and get more specific about what we want, but the serendipity of a tool like Whisk is fantastic for early stage ideation!
There's plenty of tools that focus on specificity and that's great for most use cases. But there's a lot of value to having access to AI creativity / imagination without prompting it
Oh yeah a tip there in most image generation sites is always use the download button from the image, never right click-save as because that just saves a jpg preview.
That way if you get the Gemini watermark it's also easier for tools to remove it
That's a great thing from Flow since it doesn't have the watermark but yeah
Since a lot of people are gonna have to find Nano 1 alternatives cause Flow doesn't have it you're gonna need one like this one for it https://geminiwatermark.org/batch-watermark-remover
Seen clean like a newborn. I'm currently doing some work with Nano 2 in real estate, and it's fabulous really.
"There's plenty of tools that focus on specificity and that's great for most use cases. But there's a lot of value to having access to AI creativity / imagination without prompting it"
The only thing I disagree with here is the idea that these two things are, in ANY way, conflicting. There is NOTHING about making an app easy to use that in any way is limiting for people who want more specificity (I'd call it 'granular control').
Midjourney is proof. They're the go-to for the most artsy, pro-level AI image geeks, and they have seperate input boxes for style and character. No prompting needed for that. Then you just prompt what you want to change, what you want them to do, etc.
Sadly that's just work like I'm saying, it's not artistry. Nano 1 is more artistic by default, specially if you literally tell it to do that
that might be true - i honestly haven't worked that deeply in midjourney, so I don't know that workflow or interface.
In the workflow that my team uses, we generally start with loose image concept iterations and then hone things in once client notes come in. Different tools have proven more appropriate depending on the changes, but generally it's been easiest for us to stay within the google ecosystem so that team members can have easy access to the project assets
So within our workflow, there's times when different tools with different functions have their place, and I suppose I'm saying that keeping things separate - for remixing / ideation and for final polish, is helpful
You don't usually need to prompt that hard. Something as simple as 'Show the exact plant in @image_one...' should do it.
Yeah that's a visual indicator like I'm saying. But like the other guy said, Nano 2 can't recognize images by number.
I'm not arguing for Midjourney, or any tool. I just responded to what you said at the end, and used MJ as an example.
it also recognizes the indicator as "Uploaded image"
And that's a really short prompt actually, more accurate ones like from kitchens with utensils for example do need more explanation
Need to make things seem clean, remove oxidation, make walls seem like new.
And it can even do some secret hypnotic tricks, that's all in the business.
Imagine that
i was pretty surprised by the big revamp and how they've laid everything out! I'm happy with the better organization / folder structure with new Flow, but I'm kinda struggling to imagine how Whisk is going to get incorproated / absorbed into this new set up
I'm hoping it lives as some kind of accessible interface, kinda seprately from the current interface
This is one of a mountain of reasons why making tools that work like apps is better than shoehorning everything into prompts. Prompting brings more randomness. Less consistency.
I was just talking to someone in here by DM about this. I don't know why this isn't obvious to AI app devs, but just look at Pomelli.
Pomelli does literally nothing that Nano Banana hasn't been able to do since NB1 came out. All it does it make one use case easier.
Nano Banana has been out for months, but when Pomelli Photoshoot came out, within a day BILLIONS in stock valuations went down.
The difference isn't in the model, but THEY MADE IT EASY TO USE.
That's a fair point really, and a lot of people have been saying exactly that
Is anyone else going through this hell?
Ah yes - I've also been curious about how these tools feel like they are kind of developed in silos?
I imagine that Flow is the first step in finding a way to bring everything together, but I would think that if the apps were developed with each other in mind to begin with it would benefit everything?
Right, and yet most of the people who make AI apps just refuse to go that direction. AI image apps used to have MORE app functionality in settings and sidebars. Over the last 2 years, they've been progressively taking more and more away, and shoehorning more and more into the prompt box.
That means all the power of these models is being hidden behind prompt engineering, which the vast majority of users are just never going to get good at.
It's using bad UI design to HIDE the power of these models... making them less useful.
not yet - were u uploading a video?
Dig the aged, distressed look.
When I hover the mouse over the image to download it, that message appears.
plz help
Hi everyone! By any chance, has the issue of not being able to scale generated videos in the extension to 1080 been fixed yet?
plz
Sir, have you ever had experience using HeyGen or anyone here.
I would appreciate to hear anybody's feedback
I keep getting a "prompt must be provided" message in flow. No matter what I do, re-type in text, re-upload reference images. When I hit generate I get that message and nothing happens
innnnnnteresting havent seen this one. So prompt has been entered. You press geenrate and get that error?
is the upload an image?
no, texto to video
Yes that’s right
@fierce nimbus Hey just checking, is there also some changes under the hood, notice a difference since the changes. My animations are following shorter prompts, results look better. But, could be me imagining.
Hey it somehow stopped working
Am I being rate limited and if yes where can I see it
what do you think about nano banana 2
i need help i cant generate videos on veo 3 allways say failed i change all, the prompt, script ALL, and still saying failed
@covert rampart
@olive portal
relax man no need to pingbomb
Please submit a thread in #1238621511401734254. The staff regularly monitors those thread and will your question doesn't get lost here.
Quick one for those working on video generation or with insider visibility:
Context: Veo 3.1 (8-10s clips) is starting to feel the heat — Seedance 2.0 is out with multi-minute generations and way better character consistency. Google I/O (May) is the usual target.
Actual questions:
Is Veo 4 still on track for May 2026, or is there any internal slippage?
Are the main priorities duration (60s+) and character anchoring? Because right now, those are the real blockers for production work.
The 4K narrative — is that an actual requirement or more of a spec sheet play? (Real talk: 2K/HD is more than enough for 99% of use cases, and way cheaper on compute.)
Bottom line: Is there something solid coming before summer, or are we looking at another waiting game?
No speculation — just looking for facts if anyone has shareable insights.
I've used a few voice models, but I don't remember using that one.
no model changes outsode of Nano Banan 2 release
limits are pretty relaxed for daily use. Are you seeing prompt block or just all prompts all models not working?
You asked if I've used Heygen. That's a voice model, isn't it?
That is a software focused primarily on creating ai avatars for short form
An extension result cannot be deleted, so I need start from the very beginning just to fix bad extension result?
you can click on the original in the history stack which restores to original and you can just prompt again
not overly fond of the new ui layout... yikesraroo
I agree, not intuitive at all, a lot of clicking back and forth from page to page.. takes more clicks and more time.. which is the opposite of what good ui does
this
Actually all the new tools are really nice and save a lot of ram, but without Gemini 2.5 Nano 1 there's much less to do with them
Been sitting on my derrier complaining about it since yesterday
Man I'm sooo bored
upload image from desktop > drag into prompt box > type prompt.
upload image from desktop > tap 3 dot > animate > type prompt
Nano 2 available?
Is it really tho
Not sure i understand. Its available right now in Flow
Nano 2 is fine but it just has too much "Is there another idea I can help with instead?" in comparison to Nano 1.
So much I pretty much spent the day taking fresh air today
right, and then when it doesnt one shot it, I need to redo the same thing again, but then I have to click back, copy and paste the prompt, reload the images and do it again. Where as before, there was a simple re-do button. Now that button extends it or gives other options, but to simply repeat it takes a lot more clicks now
and now I see the re use prompt button at the top.. lol.. I
there is a redo button on every ouput like before
No prob always happy to chat.
When i put in the prompt it looks like it will work and then after 3-4 seconds this error pops up
And no model works
Through gemini or whisk it works though
I don´t understand in what features is better nano banana 2 than pro
Are there plans to make an apple app for flow since it’s becoming the new Whisk? I use my IPad Mini a lot and Flow is.. unstable.. it causes my iPad to overheat sometimes.
would be nice to have other ratios like 3:4 in google flow for photos
I've seen drastic automatic changes when trying to do Digital and Cel-shaded art with Nano 2, it's definitely consistently much better than Nano pro.
Nano Pro tends to make it a little simplistic lines with no shading, but Nano 2 automatically uses professional shading even if it's not prompted
Nano pro can surely defend itself if you do prompt those things do.
Ever seen those Japanese gacha mobile games with waifus? The art they use for the portraits is precisely Cel-Shaded 2.5D professional Digital art. Nano 2 can do it even better than those.
Ever seen an episode of Rick & Morty? That's what no shading looks like
Nano pro passes the butter to Nano 2 yes.
I’m facing an issue while editing a video. When I use the Extend feature, the new part automatically merges with the original video, and I can’t find any option to trim or cut the last few frames in Flow. Also, after extending, I’m unable to download the extended portion separately after upscaling—it only exports as a merged file.
Can anyone help me ???
we are working on this one. Sorry for the inconvenience.
2k upscale not working
Thank you for the update. I appreciate your support.
Please prioritize this fix, as it’s very important for creating smooth edits and maintaining high-quality video output. Looking forward to the improvement.
Gemini enabled Nano Banana 1 for the fast mode again.
Go nuts
It's the same Whisk does
There musta been a lot of feedback wanting it back same as here, better use it so they know we want to keep it.
I always wanted to make her takes the gavel, but never could take the same gavel
I would like the gavel was the same
Better cinematic quality, better resolution, are some of the differences
The high contrast can be off the charts too.
Congrats on the update — it successfully broke a perfectly functional workflow.
After rendering, downloaded files no longer keep the default scene names and are instead renamed randomly, which makes sorting and project organization unnecessarily painful. Please add an option to preserve original scene names (or revert the change), because right now this is a major productivity regression.
I just select all the images from my folder, rename 1 and that renames them all like
Mini suite al lado de la cocina 240 (14)
It adds a number between parenthesis at the end of each image automatically
That on pc I guess
I know what uploading like a 100 images at once somewhere is
Maybe the errors do need to give a more specific reason on why they happen, that could be whatever tbh
I need a promp to convert in 3D image
There's many kinds of 3D, real life, unreal engine like games do etc
Arstyle: Transform this image into a high-quality professional Unreal Engine styled 3D render, add realistic depth, dimensional geometry, natural shadows, global illumination, volumetric lighting, use physically based materials (PBR textures), detailed surface texture, realistic reflections, soft ambient occlusion, cinematically illuminated.
Image quality: Remastered 4K HD ultra high resolution, sharpest definition, denoised, unblurry, no jpg artifacts, clean lines, High contrast.
You might have to add or take a little there according to what you're aiming for.
I add it but not works
I add an image as an ingredient who I want to convert on 3D
Is that 3D enough
yes for sure
Comes from this one
Elite Class Horimiya
[Arstyle: Avoid anime style. The subject must no longer look flat give it measurable depth from front to back. Reconstruct this image as a fully three-dimensional Unreal Engine 3D scene, add realistic depth, dimensional geometry, natural shadows, global illumination, volumetric lighting, use physically based materials (PBR textures), detailed surface texture, realistic reflections, soft ambient occlusion, cinematically illuminated, Add real volumetric depth, visible thickness to all objects, and correct perspective shift.
Show side contours, edge curvature, shadow falloff, and dimensional separation from the background. Add realistic lighting interaction across surfaces, ambient occlusion in creases, and cast shadows on the ground.
Make it look like a photographed physical 3D sculpture, not a flat illustration. Strong perspective, 35mm lens, depth of field, cinematic studio lighting.
Image quality: Remastered 4K HD ultra high resolution, sharpest definition, denoised, unblurry, no jpg artifacts, clean lines, High contrast.]
Probably one can add or take but yeah that sure forces it no matter what
Got converted from this
It can work if the background is added too
Let's add a background and see what happens
it´s a scene with several persons
I have tried on a lonely waifu
and it works, but when there are more persons and scene
not works
I got a better idea, shoulda thought of it from the memes
How's this? it's sorta cheating but yeah
Ok let's work it up from here
yeah i´ts cool
I tried your promp and it work´s on several images but not in the more complex
but one of the major problems for me is it, I cannot make Megurine takes the same gavel
no, it´s that not the problem
my problem is that I want her to take the gavel
but when she takes the gavel, the gavel shape changes
it´s not the same gavel
Ah that happens to me all the time, but with weapons and stuff
You can tell nano to make you a separate picture of the gavel
And then say "the gavel must remain completely true accurate to the one in reference images"
You can make another image with gavel floating, or add it as a second picture.
Iv'e had problems with much more complicated weapons and things and got fixed like that
Ok let's see what happened to her in 3D
... she ate my prompt well then. Gotta try again
No wonder
Yeah me too, sort of, the trick is the PVC figure style
You just need to work on the gavel you want now, and it's scale
It's hard to keep that same background when prompting, but at least we can go dinosaur hunting in threee deeee
Let's change the scene completely now
Create the the image as 3D unreal engine made PVC 1/7 scaled figurine.
Arstyle: The subject must no longer look flat give it measurable depth from front to back. Reconstruct this image as a fully three-dimensional Unreal Engine 3D scene, add realistic depth, dimensional geometry, natural shadows, global illumination, volumetric lighting, use physically based materials (PBR textures), detailed surface texture, realistic reflections, soft ambient occlusion, cinematically illuminated, Add real volumetric depth, visible thickness to all objects, and correct perspective shift.
Show side contours, edge curvature, shadow falloff, and dimensional separation from the background. Add realistic lighting interaction across surfaces, ambient occlusion in creases, and cast shadows on the ground.
Make it look like a photographed physical 3D sculpture, not a flat illustration. Strong perspective, 35mm lens, depth of field, cinematic studio lighting.
Image quality: Remastered 4K HD ultra high resolution, sharpest definition, denoised, unblurry, no jpg artifacts, clean lines, High contrast.
Background: The character from reference image is holding a tall handsome guy's arms scared at a dinosaur land.
No text.
That's what I'm using for this, should make some bucks at Deviant
I think you'd have better luck at gemini, this doesn't seem hard. What do you want her to do with that same mallet
I shoulda just done this on Nano pro from the start
It´s complex because the mallet must be rotated 180 grades
ldk everything is a challenge lately. Are you sure that mallet should be that big? She must have some heavy sinners to judge.
Gonna call this one my best attempt too, also apparently she likes Mozart. I prefer Beethoven, that dog's funny.
And to keep it on topic yes all these are Nano 2 Flow... ish.
I gotta concede Nano 2 is doing this kind of thing much easier than Nano 1, again cause much better at obeying
The Dinosaur pics were all Nano 1 tho, ain't that artistic
thank you very much but, still not the same gavel
it seems like it is very hard to do
I must sleep see you
and thanks for all
Always error suck
Yeah I imagine it's the size, gotta reformulate the scale or something.
I cannot generate
instant failed on video generation. i assume this is from high demand?
Are you the same?
Yesterday I could still do it but today I can't do it at all
do what? any prompt i type, no matter what it is, instatnly says "failed".
looks like a high demand thing going on. even prompting "Car speeding on the highway" doesnt even get to 1% and fails
and im on ultra subscription. so idk
Yes, it's the same for me too, I changed the prompt several times but it still failed, not even 1%
same here
i love how by creating a scene in a sinking boat, it added children in the background which i never asked for, only to flag my extensions due to its policy on minors. and when i try to take that same frame to erase the minors, it refuses to consider the frame as an entry because it has minors in it. minors that it created..
example: i asked to include this character in a titanic-like scnee with the ship sinking. it added the kid next to him. i never asked for any kid not did i hint at it. i was only able to remove the kid by dowloading the image and erasing her with photoshop
u can just take the picture again, prompt: it should be a 1:1 copy of the picture, and remove the child next to the man
thats what im saying, trying to add the picture to edit it in a prompt was getting refused
oh ok
it wont accept its own image due to it including minors
its spotty. i created 4 then now im getting failures.. it looks like a traffic related issue.
maybe it will work again later
flow still doesn't work
same here doesnt work anymore for me
can you guys add more aspect ratio for flow for images
same here
Exasperating when it's so fragile. How can a high-rise construction site "violate policies?"
Shape is weird
Same here how long have you been experiencing this?
Can we have an option to put a custom image size here? In Gemini we can put the size or aspect ratio inside the prompt and it provides the image with exact size/ratio. But in Flow even if I put the size/ratio requirements in the prompt, it doesn’t follow that and give me the image with 16:9 or 9:16 ratio only. It is really important for creating professional image. Like If I want to create a promotional image for social media it requires 1:1 or 4:3 aspect ratio most of the time. 9:16 isn’t a good choise for social media promotional image.
@fierce nimbus please, it is missing a button to reuse the prompt for a generated image,
see how can I reuse these images and this prompt
my mistake, the button is hidden
the region select is not working, I selected only a small region, and prompt: make it gold
it made the entire image gold
I have been having this problem for two hours now
Is there a way to remove a collection without removing nthe images contained in the collection? Also is it possible to choose your own project thumbnail image? It seems to default to the very first image..
Yes, the shape is indeed weird. Here's what it looks like.
flow is broken. shame
/credits
Do you think It's normal? 😑
Nano banana pro 2
veo is generating a video misplacing items or people from the original reference image given its not following the reference image at all
Veo needs to keep up with the other competitors
I mean in feature extend video
Batch renaming is a workaround, but it doesn’t solve the regression. The whole point is that filenames should be deterministic and tied to the original prompt/scene name for sorting, automation, and re-importing.
Please bring back the old behavior or add a toggle to preserve original prompt/scene names for downloaded renders (images and videos). Right now the random naming breaks production workflows.
Hi
Yes, I love that mallet but I have been two years triying to fix and nothing could it
Yeah it hallucinates and screws up more than nbp
I’m assuming Veo 4 will be the next thing to launch
Mine are coming out with the start of the prompt as the file names.
With the latest update, it has become generally inconvenient to generate videos. Previously, when there was a normal scenebuilder, it was easier - now it's generally some kind of nonsense...
Now you can't even upgrade to 4k.
Previously, when extending a video, I would select the final frame and generate a sequel. For now, generate it whatever you want... It's a pity for the money and time spent...
Can someone tell me how to work with such a broken service now?
It still works that way. It just moved. You click on the individual video and Extend is one of the options. It's not in Scenebuilder anymore.
It's uncomfortable to use the word at all
I've been trying to get used to it for a week now🤦♂️😪
...it came out two days ago.
It's a pity the loans will burn out...
Maybe, I'm not arguing. But it was more convenient.
Let's say you said that you can extend it by selecting a file separately. And how to extend the specified frame?
Extend works the same as before. You can't extend a frame. You extend videos.
can anyone help me to get similar face as the reference image inside flow, the new update broke this for me now everytime I generate it give me random faces
Check to see if it's set to Ingredients instead of Frames
I am generating the image not the video
I understood you. But let's say I used to set a frame to create a transition. Now you have to do everything manually.
I make canon character art a lot too, if you are using a reference image try the prompt
"Facial Structure: Always completely true to character from reference image"
That always helps me a lot you can reinforce it like
"Subject character's facial Structure: Always completely true to character from reference image without any creativity freedom."
That's when you really need to be strict and you're sure it's not gonna conflict with other prompts alike makeup and alike
That can be adjusted for hairstyle, eyes, physique, clothes and other things too.
Or that's how I do it tho, it can probably be shorter or better idk, point is the model listens
Also the prompts that need more priority need to be at the top of all prompts, way more likely it will listen
I've said this before but this Discord won't allow to just link a post.
Ah it's real, it'll work
okay let me try that
can I dm you with my prompt, may be you can help me with that
if possible
Flow has never done transitions. If you want to make a new clip with an image, that works the same as it did before.
We heard that it was inconvenient to have your old ingredients in a separate project. We recently pushed an update where you can toggle between the current project and the Ingredient Archive within the asset drawer to access those images across any project! Let us know what you think
👀
Is it better to use ingredients or frames?
THANK YOU going to test this now. When I saw that all my ingredients had moved and I'd have to move them each manually it was pretty depressing lol
It's just different. Frames start with the exact image. Ingredients mix up the images and prompt.
It’s just a pain that the reference image seems to default to ingredients when uploaded. I’ve never used ingredients before. So I’m guessing with character consistency, frames would be better
The opposite, actually. Ingredients allows you to upload high def character sheets along with other images like for the background, objects, etc. Frames you have to have everything you want in that one image.
Sorry for the trouble, if you're having issues, please start a thread in #1238621511401734254 so we can resolve!
We're sorry for the trouble. If you're still having issues generating, please file a bug in #1238621511401734254
Cause I’ve been doing individual start frames for each scene but maybe I don’t need to do it that way then?
Thank you. Already did.
There's no wrong answer. They're just two different ways of doing it. If you want a very specific shot to start looking exactly like the image, then you have to use Frames. If you want to mix ingredients together, then use ingredients.
alone?
How can I see how much time I have left before my daily Nan Banana Pro limit resets on Flow?
I at least haven't made an exact count yet, but I think free accounts have 20-25 free tries, you're gonna have to keep count on how many images you manage to generate today and seems the missed attempts do count. I'm sure cheaper Google plans that included Whisk still allow to generate more images at flow tho, even the one that costs around $5 a month. https://one.google.com/u/1/ai?utm_source=gemini
You gotta be sure you payed in the account you will use, that'd also give you some more Nano2 image generations at Gemini, the accounts cross over platforms.
So yeah the crossplatform is convenient since you'd get double if you use both sites
can some one help me i tried to delete cache and things like that and anything is working, some help please❤️
Hey @clear parrot is this affecting all your prompts or just a specific one you're working with?
people just be saying anything at this point
Being an online grump makes time go ~3 times faster, apparently? haha
why the hell is there only two ratios? google we are deleting our other two a.i making things nad here have one WITH LESS OPTIONS.
video gen is not working for me since update I have ultra, all it says is Prompt must be provided
Is the generate still an error guys?
still get it after maybe 4 or 8 generations
That’s not what I’m getting. Please check the screenshots I posted — the exported files are NOT named from the prompt or scene name. They’re being renamed inconsistently/randomly, which breaks sorting and my pipeline.
Is this an A/B rollout, platform-specific bug, or a setting? Either way, please restore prompt/scene-based filenames (images + videos) or add a ‘Preserve original prompt/scene names’ toggle.
Hello, i need some help
Why I can’t use Veo3.1 - Quality to gen a video
is flow down again ?
Can anyone send me tutorial videos on flow from basic to aadvanced
I have a question. Where can I find seed of the images I have created in Flow?
What’s going on with Google Flow? Is video generation working for you? On my end it keeps failing every time.
Can someone help. Since the update to VEO 3.1 I have nothing but stress... Now is this message and the prompt doesn't even needs sound... In gemini just doesn't follows the prompt and works by itself... Can you please put VEO 3 back... and work on VEO 3.1 because it's just not there ?
the new flow keep expand the image to match the 16:9 aspect ratio, while the old Flow keep your image in its original aspect ratio and just put 2 black bar above and under. So I can still crop it and not affect to the original image. Any tips to make new Flow like the old one 😭
my use case is remove details or sth from the image
okay I'm FINALLY getting the hang of this UI and I must say....I HATE IT
FR
its SO frustrating. Ingredients I used to be able to use across all projects, I now have to go HUNT for. And this "Collections" within a project seems...silly
Hi, why can’t I create a video? It keeps showing “failed”. I was able to create earlier, but now it won’t let me create anything. Anyone knows about this? Please help me
Let me see if I can help; what prompt are you trying?
@tough yacht Ive been using Flow since closed beta well over a year now, Ive never seen it this poorly finctioning, I do everything Ive always done, in this new interface and all I get is: "Prompt must be provided"
what is going on? please help
I'm so sorry for the hassle - can you give me some example prompts that are failing for you, so I can try to reproduce and file a bug?
{
"title": "Tracos Interiores Team – Listening Moment",
"shot_description": "Hero reaction shot",
"duration_seconds": 7,
"primary_subject": "Four Traços Interiores team members standing side-by-side facing camera",
"action_interaction": "They listen to an off-camera CEO, making subtle head nods, soft natural smiles, and brief eye contact with each other before returning their gaze forward",
"dialogue": "No dialogue",
"secondary_elements": "Natural breathing, minimal posture shifts, subtle facial micro-expressions, maintain original wardrobe and spacing",
"environment": "Neutral textured indoor wall background, corporate setting, same composition as original image",
"camera": {
"movement": "Locked-off",
"angle": "Eye-level",
"lens": "50mm equivalent",
"depth_of_field": "Shallow",
"aspect_ratio": "Match original horizontal framing",
"resolution": "4K",
"frame_rate": "24fps"
},
"lighting_atmosphere": {
"instruction": "Preserve exact lighting, exposure, color balance, shadows, and skin tones from the original image",
"mood": "Soft, neutral, natural"
},
"audio_context": {
"ambience": "Soft indoor room tone",
"sfx": "Subtle fabric movement",
"music": "None",
"off_camera_voice": "Indistinct CEO speaking softly, not intelligible"
},
"visual_style": "Photorealistic corporate portrait realism, no grading changes, no added stylization",
"continuity_tokens": [
"TEAM_TRACOS_INTERIORES",
"STYLE_CORPORATE_NEUTRAL",
"LIGHT_ORIGINAL_MATCH",
"CAM_LOCKED_STATIC"
],
"notes": "Micro-expressions only. No exaggerated gestures. Absolutely no change in lighting or color from the source image."
}
this has always worked and now all I get is "Prompt must be provided"
doesnt even matter I can type anything and all I get is: "Prompt must be provided"
I have tried three different accounts
only way I can render right now is via API!
It is the same for me. and it is charging me even for failed videos.
@tough yacht sound the alarms! 🙂
its 100% a catastrophic bug all those video renders are just the prompt "red" but now you see I try "red" and I get the "Prompt must be provided" error message
Are you sure the credits for failed gens aren't being refunded (check https://one.google.com/ai/activity)?
No, i am 100% sure aout that
Testing now!
I think it has something to do with copy and pasting prompts into the text field breaks the whole app... @tough yacht
Can you DM me the email you sign in with and we'll check your account to see what's going on?
It has not worked for me since yesterday afternoon
I can reproduce this failing. Let me investigate why (I'll file a bug now and follow up asap)
Since you are at that can you please also mention that the gemini generations, at least for me, are completley out of control. This same prompt would give me a speech in english and saying something made up... VEO 3.1 has a lot of bugs that I have notice so far. I have weekly videos that I've been producing for 2 months always the same prompt the only change are the lines and VEO 3 did perfectly in one shot and now I can't even do it
I have sent you a DM
Weird- this is working just fine for me (with your text prompt; I'm happy to test it with the start frame if you send it to me). Where are you copying the prompts from?
If you add "DO NOT GENERATE ANY AUDIO" or something to that effect, does it work for you?
No I tried several times... I move to GROK that did it in one shot..
were you able to reproduce?
if not try copy and pasting the prompt in the window that 100% breaks it every time for me
Here is my prompt: @tough yacht
With that addition to your prompt, it works for me. But i'll still investigate why it's failing in the first place and follow up if we learn anything.
Alright, so I'm pasting this here, and then I'll copy it and put it into Flow to test:
A photorealistic extreme close up video of a man's bloodshot eye. A slow, almost imperceptible push-in on the eye. The pupil is dilated, and a faint shadowy human silhouette is reflected deep within it. A single thin beam of cold blue-white light from the left illuminates only the eye. The surrounding skin shows dark circles and exhaustion. The background is absolute black. Oppressive atmosphere, eerie stillness. Cinematic.
@wicked ravine No issues when I copied/pasted from Discord. If you just copy/paste the text prompt with no start frame, are you still seeing the issue?
checking
Thanks! If it's only failing for you with the start frame, can you send me the start frame so I can test with that?
(and be back in a bit, but thank you all so much for sending the feedback)
hmm its working for me now... smh
@tough yacht
"man brushing his teeth" flagged for sexual content??
I wanted some glasses to slip off a person face and that got flagged for sexual content too.
I'm so glad to hear that!
Re: man brushing his teeth, what was the whole prompt? I'll test.
Oy, sorry about that. Can you send me the full prompt?
Well I've moved on. I've done what I needed with grok. I don't have infinite credits to fix veo bugs
I totally understand, my apologies Jose. I'll still look into what happened here so we can make Flow better moving forward.
Sure thing I'll see if it's still there, might've deleted to reevaluate though
Nah I got rid of it, but I'll tag you if I try again later @tough yacht
Thank you because I still think that veo is one of the best models but if it is so hard to control I'll move to Kling or seedance once is available... And since you're at it please see if they can make Portuguese PT to work instead of Portuguese BR if one choses Portuguese PT
is flow also not not working for u guys??
@uneven sand
bro what is this
anyone help me out?
@small elk
I have a question. Where can I find seed of the images I have created in Flow?
does flow video creating work for u?
Hi, moderators are here to help out with any in-server issues, if you’re experiencing an issue with any of the google products I suggest #1238621511401734254 !
At the moment, I am working on a series of images with Nano Banana 2. I cannot find the seed value, which makes my work extremely difficult.
exactly
can u believe i paid 200 bucks for the credits and ts just stopped working
i need help rn
That's not good. I'm new to Flow and unfortunately can't help you. But do you know where I can find the seed for the images?
Cant there be more aspect ratios on Flow
there is no way to integrate a character in a background, it always feels like it is pasted on top 🙁
In were
on top of the background image, in flow, nano banana pro and 2 😛
give me an image example let me try
Does anyone know how to extend in this new layout? i add to scene builder, but there is no options to extend or even a prompt box...
I did. I said that's not what my file names are showing. All of mine are the first words of the prompt, then either a string of nonsense letters, or letters and numbers mixed together.
I don't work for Google.
Quality mode works with Frames or test to video. Ingredients only works with 3.1 Fast
@edgy holly became so legendary that he has to say I don't work for Google🤣
Negative prompting backfires more often than it works. You folks know that.
From time to time, yeah, haha
I've noticed that even if you mention a bathroom, that will lead to higher fail rates. Had some where the character was walking toward a bathroom down a hallway. Couldn't even see the bathroom.
Whoa... why are my words red? haha
Nano Banana doesn't use seeds, even in the API.
They moved that and it's not in the instructions update popup.
Instead of extending in Scenebuilder, you just click on the clip in the project grid, and it's one of the options under the prompt box.
Then when you're done, you can add to Scenebuilder to export them together if you want.
Thank you, i found it! but when i click on extend, nothing happens lol? even if i add a prompt, nothing happens! 😢
the new flow keep expand the image to match the 16:9 aspect ratio, while the old Flow keep your image in its original aspect ratio and just put 2 black bar above and under. So I can still crop it and not affect to the original image. Any tips to make new Flow like the old one 😭 @tough yacht
my use case is remove details or sth from the image
pls I observed that when I entered flow labs the graphics in the site has changed, and I can't upload image...
does anyone pls has idea on how I can upload images?
anyone facing issue with image generation on flow ?
Video and image both
I think server issue
I used it yesterday... one sec.
Okay, so you click on the clip, make sure '>> Extend' is selected, type in the prompt, check your settings and hit the '->' button and it doesn't work for you?
They moved that. You have to click the '+' symbol at the top of the page to add things to your ingredients library thing.
Well, i feel stupid now... i never hit the arrow (enter) button LOL Thank you ❤️
I think the whole world needs to have a refresher course on troubleshooting. Most of us geezers over 40 had to learn that stuff to make it through life, but instructions are awful nowadays, and tools are more complicated.
Hi
I was hot five minutes ago… now I’m abandoned. You pour ambition into me and forget me mid-email. Reheat me again and I lose flavor — just like your focus.
lol, i agree with you
I was hot five minutes ago… now I’m abandoned. You pour ambition into me and forget me mid-email. Reheat me again and I lose flavor — just like your focus.
This has got to be the most poetic complaint I've ever read...
Yas
I was hot five minutes ago… now I’m abandoned. You pour ambition into me and forget me mid-email. Re
We should make a seperate room where mods promise to follow closely, but all complaints are required to be in verse, or at least iambic pentameter.
<@&1366831844502274180> and @GoogleStaff can there be more aspect ratios in google flow like that is google AI studio
hi unfortunately mods cannot assist with product issues, please ping us for discord related issues! thank youu!
But can the google staff help or where can I suggest
They follow the #1238621511401734254 channel more closely, I think. They know people want this, but more it's said the better.
KK thanks for that, and do u mean that people to have made the suggestion
What Frontier said, please use #1238621511401734254 for any feedback, suggestions, or product bugs. The staff do monitor those channels regularly and then your questions or feedback will not get lost in a channel that is not monitored by them.
Kk thanks I understoodthat
"They know people want this, but more it's said the better." but he said this
Yeah, this is a common ask.
Don't not say it because others have.
I'm bad at this, but they need more people to be "squeeky wheels" about it for them to tell which things people want more.
Yeah, it is something I have seen asked many times. That is why we have the feeback channel. If it is something you do want to see make sure to indeed put it in the channel, because as he said the more people that ask the for the same thing the more likely they will hear it and make it happen.
@full flicker Mr cat, what's the name of the cat in ur pfp,the orange one, i like cats
Jus curious
Kk but I hope it comes soon. Maybe it might come with the whisk and ImagineFX to flow
I moved the reply to #off-topic・🐢
Its just me or flow is down?
No its jus down in specific places
Tiny prob
Will be back soon
Is Image Generation with Flow is limited, or they requires credits and have daily limits?
Because I love creatin images
Depends on your account level. I think it's ~100 per day with a Pro account, and 1000/day with Ultra, using Nano Banana Pro, but after that I think we get more. It's confusing. We haven't gotten a straight answer.
Flow having issues atm? I keep getting a blank page with "The number of requests sent exceeds the quota limit. Error code 253"
...yep
same problem
yeah its not with the generation, as they seem to work, its like flow itself keeps messing up. Sometimes the page wont load properly when it tries too
no, its not just you, having the same issues
it kicks us out and then fails to load
which country are you mate?
Canada
ok I'm from asia, it affect all over the world then
And for Free users? And Nano Banana 2 AND Imagen 4?
I'm not sure. Test it out. I do know you get some free use in Gemini. Just make some images and see how many you get.
Ok
On Gemini, it's 20 free images with Nano Banana 2.
Sorry to hear you're having disruptions. Please start a thread in #1238621511401734254 - the more details, the easier it will be for us to look into this. Information like:
- What model you're trying
- What prompt you're trying
- Screenshots of the Error message
Go a long way for us to be able to resolve things more quickly
Can you share a screenshot of the error message?
It was just a white screen with that text in the corner. Then it would kick me out and the page would fail to load. It's been working better since but I'm not at a computer now
same how to fix ?
@inland bear @west tide
Sorry to hear you're having disruptions. Please start a thread in #1238621511401734254 the more details, the easier it will be for us to look into this. Information like:
-What model you're trying
-What prompt you're trying
-What type of account you have (Ultra, Pro, etc)
Will go a long way in helping us debug your issues
Did it say "Nano Banana 2"?
YES
I guess NANO BANANA 2 is for free and pro is limited
seriously
that would be better than 5
for the pro
this update has been an absolute disaster -- hopefully things improve asap
meaning
We're sorry you're having issues. Can you share more details on your pain points?
Yeah this is also around my calculations, and the missed attempts count.
Yeah for starters, do you like how Nano Banana 2 and Nano Banana Pro are generating your images? Or do you prefer how Whisk is doing it? Or is it something else?
@upbeat sierra hello
Do ultra users still get unlimited VEO 3.1
Yes, but only Fast, low priority mode (as has been the case)
Ah, how long does it usually take? I know times may vary but are we talking 45 minutes lol
Basically that mode will take maybe 5 minutes or so, unless their servers are overloading (a few hours a day, or so), then it'll fail and you come back an hour later and it'll work then.
I've never timed it, but if generations don't fail because of that or a filter, then Veo in Flow is by far the fastest. Kling is WAY slower.
Hello can someone tell me the big difference between veo3 fast and quality?
Generally better at physics and detailed complex prompts. Sometimes you can't tell the difference.
Ok, i can just use the same prompt as veo3 fast right?
They're both Veo 3. Quality is just better at some things.
can someone tell me why they cant spend 10 sec to have some tech change the default setting to nano banana 2 so i dont have to change it everytime i want to do an image ? like i just dont get why this isnt automatic when new models come out -
or at least make it a toggle on the top layer - not in a drop down menu which is the least easy way to change something - click drag click - worst ui choice possible
also why does the upscale and download message need to be dismiss ? just make it go away after a few seconds - why do we need all these extra clicks over and over again for no reason
Hi today my flow generation failed all day, there's any problem on server? thanks
This annoying popup doesnt go away, you have to click dismiss to remove them, and I have 20+ of this notifications, so its really annoying you have to click them everytime you download an image, it also blocks the prompt and other icons.
my pictures are auto delete
I can't stand the fact they merged Googlelabs+Flow with Discord. Should have just left it alone. Now we can't find our saved images regarding our projects and where is Ingredient Archive? We are doing all this extra crap to locate our images and whatever else and it is taking away from us being able to finish our projects! I just want to login to Flow Scene Builder so I can put all my scenes together move on the next step.
.... there's too many complaints by everyone about everything, at this point might as as well just leave Whisk as it is and add Nano Banana 2 and Pro to it which is what pretty much everyone asked for at the feedback areas.
Like the Yaska user here was showing, this is the correct setting for the site, if you want to build on that it will work much easier
That sounds incredibly frustrating — especially when you're mid-project and suddenly the tools you rely on feel like they’ve been rearranged overnight. Nothing kills creative momentum faster than “Where did my stuff go?” 😅
Maybe go directly to the Flow login page (not through Discord).
Try logging in with the exact Google account originally tied to your Flow projects.
If it works, u r lucky, else peace out to google ✌️
Thanks
That is one thing I do is KEEP Extra photos and videos of my projects just incase I can't get to them like this Integrated Archive that I am still waiting to see if anyone can guide me to where Integrated Archive is! That would be HELPFUL!!!
Soooo...I just opened up Flow and thought it would be easy to use....and I don't even know what I'm looking at. there are little to no buttons or options. Every tutorial I see is now officially void because they're all using a now old version. Not trying to be mean, but I'm literally wondering right now if this is a joke.
After playing with Flow for a few days. Here are my findings about the new generators in Flow.
a) Removal of NanoBanana1: A huge mistake. Like mentioned on another post Banana1 and 2 are fullfilling each other's weaknesses. Banana2 lacks of imagination and takes prompts too literally. Banana1 has less understanding but will fill that "gap" by providing a solution by itself. I hope they will bring it back or at least leave it available.
b) Not so smart Banana2: I know it creates some 'wow!' factor with its capabilities, but when you try to push it, especially when comes to editing existing photos or for technical demonstrations, is just not there yet. I do a lot of automotive and product image generation and the results often do not make sense, the prompts are not followed or it has a hard time understanding what I am asking - even when I sketch things. So I would say is still like 70% artistic / 30% practical.
c) Smudgy results: I don't understand why there is an option for a 2K or a 4K image when the results are coming up smudgy or blurry and need to go through an image enhancer again to get clear results. Clarification: I have a paid membership and I am using its premium capabilities through there. In Flow, I only used the free features, but I guess the quality will be the same there, too.
what happened in flow?? why i cant create image today(80% cant working), this is bad idea remove whisk in april 30🫵🏻 💩
how dare you None of the functions are working properly in flow and then still remove the whisk omg
When I expand more than 2 videos in flow the original one disappear
Good afternoon, for the 3rd day now my video generation has not been working, I bought the ultra package and this is the problem(
Is it no longer possible to download individual clips from an extended video separately? Once a video has been extended, I only have the option of a 720p download. What about 1080p and 4K?
Cant upload reff image?
hey boys
If they'd just enable Nano Banana 1/Gemini Flash 2,5 in Flow again which Whisk was using that'd fix about %85 the current probs Flow has, or at least would let people get used to it. Just so you know.
so why i cant upload image, it been 2 or 3 days
why shut-down whisk when Flow does not works/ do not have all features from whisk
just make it paid / expensive / pro ; we all prefer to stick to whisk instead
why Extend/Jump to function is deactivated? i can not find them anywhere
R u viewing it in the web interface
????
It won't work there
yes, so what should i do
no, it used to have those functions in SceneBuilder
Are you in edit mode??
is flow error or what? i cant generate even simple image
yes
is it only me or can you only "extend" a clip by one generation? Before you could generate 4 variations of the extention is that no longer possible?
tried the new flow with nano 2. why does inpainting generate a horrible job with super obvious seams?
this is the before
Is generating normal now, guys?
Hi everyone
Hi @spiral python Could you share more details about the issues you're experiencing?
@winged plinth Hi Admin,
I am reporting a critical bug with the desktop version of the platform (Ultra Plan):
On my PC, I can successfully upscale a video to 4K, but I cannot download it. When I click the 'Download' button, it simply disappears and the download never starts. After this happens, I am unable to attempt the upscale or download on that specific clip again.
Crucially, I have to log in from my phone to download the upscaled clip, which works fine there. This confirms the issue is specifically with the PC/Web interface and not the file itself.
Could you please look into this bug? I need to be able to download my upscaled content directly from my computer
Hey @tawdry burrow I'd open a support ticket to get the technical team on it, but in the meantime, try a different browser. Extensions or privacy settings can sometimes block multi-file downloads, so it's worth a quick test!
@winged plinth I'm on the ultra plan, and I haven't seen any results since 2 days ago.
I want something fast and the same quality.
Could you share the prompt and which model you're using?
Also, have you tried opening a ticket in the #labs-bugs-feedback channel so the team can look into it for you?
I use 3.1, it's high-quality and fast.
I've never opened a ticket before.
But many people have experienced the same thing. Why?
They'll need to investigate whether it's an account level issue or an input issue (prompt or image) to get your generations working properly.
Does the account issue also have an impact? And I use simple prompts, sometimes complicated ones, and the details are still the same.
Go ahead and drop a ticket in #labs-bugs-feedback and the team will follow up with you there!
Oke thankyou
Hi everyone, is the team aware of the video generation issue? After the latest update, FLOW has been performing terribly. Errors constantly occur when generating images and videos.
Now, images are generated intermittently, and videos in VEO 3.1 won't generate at all.