general・🧺

[bronze shell]

Is there a way I can officially work with Google in this? I have a ton of clients and all their rights to make these type of videos.

[bronze shell]

Thank you!

[hollow cradle]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ELjlnRd0UAo

i made this using flow

[willow ridge]

looks great

[dry fox]

Cool to see the Google spotlight search Windows app!!

[digital swallow]

hi

[steel vault]

Yo, new memeber here. Struggling to get scenebuilder to work right now? Anyone else having issues? I "add to scene" and then go to the sccenebuilder but nothing is loaded tia

[hexed pine]

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[ornate yew]

been vibe-coding this game for the past couple of days, stubbornly kept it all as a onepager.html code - managed to create a early 90s style german sim, good old "wirtschaftssimulation" - those overly and unnecessarily complex and detailed economic sim games made by highly decorated people like Albert Lasser

by now that thing has about 200.000 rows of code

it has dev tools, its "own" 3d engine , 4 player hotseat

100% natively rendered in your browser

im sort of a early 2000s webdesign guy myself, so im quite able to fiddle with this code, but with recent extensions it has gotten so complex that both AI and myself have trouble to keep working on it

by now i basicaly exhaust daily limits within the initial analyzation of the code when i try to advance the development of my game

[proven musk]

What is going on fellas

[ornate yew]

idk i have talked mostly to ai for a few days and thought it was time for some plan good old humanzee interactions

[shadow granite]

wow. i also walking a walking man.

just like you did.

mine one.

[ornate yew]

neat, three.js eh?

i realy like yours man

less detailed in fidelity but much smoother overall, more abstract but generally feels like the better one

[shadow granite]

everybody has their own knowledge about how to make a walking man. so cool.

[shadow granite]

i made in opengl python.

[ornate yew]

you should take a look at three.js if you doing 3d stuff in the browser

that stuff is nuts, check the examples , i.e. gamefps

[shadow granite]

i see. three.js i will check that out.

[ornate yew]

so i guess yours is drawn by koordinates as well?

like predefined shapes specified by koordinates and positions?

i have procedural generation of robot parts implemented but im struggling to get them shown in the robo designer currently

[shadow granite]

in opengl the basic shape is triangle. but i using those triangles was able to make cylinders, cuboids and spheres. and also .. for the body the torso.

[ornate yew]

haha amazing yeah we went the same way

its that moment where you realize wait, if i can draw one shape i can draw every shape by building other shapes out of tha that one shape

[shadow granite]

just using triangles. we can realize that we can draw any shapes for our video game world. yes.

[ornate yew]

if i increase the amount of quads the robo head becomes completely round

and will melt your gpu right away!

[proven musk]

Batch it

[shadow granite]

same would happen to me... if i increase the number of triangles required to make the spheres or cylinders for example.

[proven musk]

You need to write a system to batch them and then rebuild them via CPU while rendering or generating

[ornate yew]

current solution is to use sane values for the quality slider 😄

[proven musk]

Hahaha, next time don't design your slider with such a high scale, maybe

[ornate yew]

and not hav it build a simple sphere from a gazillion quads 🤣 you think batching would allow to run it at such high quality settings?

yeah yuare right, this is just in my dev tools. the game uses a much lower quality setting, should be equal to quality level 2 in the editor

[proven musk]

Yes batching would allow you to run super high quality generations and if you build a map for it to compile via CPU you can generate and fifo it to the CPU

[ornate yew]

that sounds quite tempting

[proven musk]

I can help

[shadow granite]

which game are you making. are you making a game too.

[ornate yew]

the game is about leading a company that invents and produces robots and robot parts

traditional german economic simulation

[ornate yew]

man that is such a nice offer, i def wont say no to this

[proven musk]

Interesting, do you get to the point where the robots produce other robots and parts and assemble them? xD

[ornate yew]

but i value other peoples time

[proven musk]

It's ok I don't offer what I don't have.

[ornate yew]

i should add this to the tech tree

currently you hire workers and pay them salary

but i could make it so that after 30 years or so worker robots become available

[proven musk]

Should be an engineer position that has a random IQ range and one day if his IQ is high enough (You hired the correct candidate). He produces self rewriting robots that can eventually produce and assemble themselves.

What are you writing this game in btw?

[ornate yew]

that is part of the problem 🤣 this started as a pure curiosity project. how far can i drive a onepager html that does neither require other files nor a webserver

so its 100% html, css and js

[proven musk]

My current situation right now is server / infrastructure recovery kinda lol

Oh awesome, I'm very good at all of those things so let me know if you need any tips or pointers

[shadow granite]

other than the walking man i had created a 3d model of an oak tree and a castle gate.

[ornate yew]

i would love to see them!

[shadow granite]

a render of the scene. it is bit unclear but you can see that.. oak tree infront of that half-closed castle gate.

you can walk or fly around the scene.

[ornate yew]

wild, i feel the c64 vibe and you have my respect

doing all this increased the appreciation and respect to those devs of old days from my side

[proven musk]

N64? Lol, I got the same vibes, except gamecube, maybe some windwaker almost. Maybe it's the greens.

So what are you doing generating SVGs or another vector image and rendering them as 3D objects or

[shadow granite]

its just 3d triangles placed in certain 3d coordinates.
you can make cylinders, spheres and cuboids using those triangles.
and then the scene using it.

btw the oak tree is a bit more complex.

the leaves are spheres and the trunk is cylinder with varying radius.

the branches are just cylinders.

[proven musk]

I was referring to @ornate yew, I didn't read up on anyones post. Kinda just jumped in. What are you creating and what's your development environment?

Each one of those trees sounds like a huge delta drop lol

[ornate yew]

oh, i actualy am using voxel

example of 10% of the code needed to create the robo head shown in the video posted earlier: buildEllipsoid(
pos, col,
{ x:0, y:0, z:0 },
{ rx:0.28, ry:0.32, rz:0.26 },
VOXEL_SIZE,
()=> base
);

[shadow granite]

i completely see. you have converted the game scene into 3d grids. and you are drawing by filling those 3d grids.

isn't that what voxel mean. the 3d version of pixels ?

[ornate yew]

where buildellipsoid is a function that defines an elipsoid and build blocks to form a shell

[proven musk]

You're writing the bitmap out @ornate yew ?

A voxel, like a pixel, depicts screen or virtual space

[ornate yew]

@shadow granite nothing is prerendered or precoompiled, the models get drawn on the fly by those functions and builds the shapes from blocks

[proven musk]

It's the smallest there is in a 3D virtual environment

They store information like color, denisty, opacity, sort of like how pixels store color information

[shadow granite]

ok.

[proven musk]

It's a form of raster data, like pixel data, but with a 3rd dimension of volume

[proven musk]

I hope they're atleast cached

[ornate yew]

instanced and cached

still pretty taxing tbh

[shadow granite]

using blocks won't work for more complicated games though. you should try to make a 3d surface out of your block models. it will reduce the number of triangles required.

[ornate yew]

its overly taxing but given the games structure not a real issue

we wont render massive wars with robots or anything, just different varieties in this robodesigner

[shadow granite]

i left making this game and started working on other projects because there is no sophisticated tool or method to make 3d models.

if i continue this project. i would look forward to two ideas further.
lego blocks [a kids toy]
openscad [used for 3d printing]

and then everything in the game all 3d models would be designed inspired by the idea.
i don't want to waste time in randomly creating 3d models. there should be a realible way.

[ornate yew]

haha for that purpose i have procedural generators

you can use predefined "microshapes" to proceduraly generate countless varieties of your tree

[shadow granite]

what is this procedular generator.

[proven musk]

Interesting, 24GB! Holy moly lol.

[ornate yew]

in other words random generator

[proven musk]

How many voxels are you rendering at once? Lol

[ornate yew]

lol thats not the game 😄

[proven musk]

Oh phew lmfao.

[ornate yew]

thats my quadrillion tabs with millions row of code etc

[proven musk]

Lmfao, browser tabs?

[ornate yew]

yes

[proven musk]

Which browser haha, Vivaldi?

[ornate yew]

various ai chats, odifferent versins of the game and editors etc

lol, just Edge

[proven musk]

Oh my, that's your problem, lol.

Sad they're even using chromium

[shadow granite]

ai. i work on making math ai. that's my project.

[shadow granite]

if you figured out how to make a 3d video game properly.. please teach me.

[proven musk]

Haha, I can teach you guys a bunch of stuff. I started out in game development

[ornate yew]

procedural generation is a method of generating things with a predefined formular. lets say you have your tree. if you seperate it into leafs, branches and the main stem you can start randomizing lets say amount of branches, scale of stem, color of leafs

[shadow granite]

lol. this is a big and mysterious story. i can explain what's this math ai. but i am interested in making games also.

[proven musk]

What is math ai? I engineer and architect systems, models, tools, anything AI. From scratch.

[shadow granite]

its a 4000+ lines of code python program. which can solve mathematics problems.

its like pip install sympy or wolfram alpha.

[proven musk]

Oh I gotcha, it's a weighted mathematics engine

Anything particular it's trained off of?

[shadow granite]

its not machine learning. its just algorithms.

it can simplify algebraic equations for example.

[proven musk]

So you've constructed a rule system

[shadow granite]

EQUATION 0 : -1+(2*x)+(x**3)
>>> ``` like this.

[shadow granite]

yep.

[proven musk]

Yeah, cool.

Nice job, I wouldn't mind seeing it in action tbh

[shadow granite]

but my point is.... you all are creating games. create a nice game and a technique to create 3d game models. teach me that. and i teach you... this math rule based system stuff.

[quartz leaf]

CAN ANY ONE MAKE A OPERRATING SYSTEM FOR GOOGLE ??

THATS LIKE SUPER SMOOTH

[proven musk]

I can help you guys honestly create anything from scratch you'd ever want.

Google, is already on the right path and utilizes the Linux kernel

Ever heard of gLinux?

[ornate yew]

im also happy to help @shadow granite

[shadow granite]

ok. i really wanted to make games. but instead i am busy interested in this strange story of math ai. but as you are specifically interested in games and you got time for that. you can help me out with it. my game is incomplete.

[quartz leaf]

NOT THATS LIKE IT SHOULD BE LIKE MAC LIKE SMOOTHNESS AND WORKABLE LIKE LINUX AND OPTIMIZE LIKE ATLAS CAN ANYONE MAKE THIS

THATS A BIG SCALE LEVEL PROJECT .

[shadow granite]

this is cool. keep working.

but the stairs are mostly made of cuboids in that game. that's it.

[ornate yew]

oh yeah, in this case its simple shapes

[proven musk]

Mac, smooth? Atlas optimal?

[shadow granite]

hmm. simple shapes can get us far in video games. but to get farther we need to develop our own techniques.

[proven musk]

Mac is far from smooth, Atlas is a niche.

No ones going to visit a subdomain, subdomain.

[ornate yew]

it depends on what you want, do you want high-res unreal-engine like 3d models ?

[quartz leaf]

WHY??

[proven musk]

You need to fork up the 10-20$ and get yourself a domain and host it somewhere

[shadow granite]

just want to make humans, animals etc... not aiming for high-res.

[quartz leaf]

BRO WHERE DID THE MONEY COME FROM ?? IAM A STUDENT IN MY COUNTRY THERE IS NO PART TIME JOB FOR STUDENT AND THE 1 DOLLER IS EQUAL 130 TAKA

[ornate yew]

because then drawing them on the fly from geometry isnt the right approach imo, you need .glb or gltf 3d models wich can also be seen in action here: https://threejs.org/examples

ah okay, so you want to keep the retro look

because state of the art is we can show almost anything like in real 3d game editors

we arent limited to those simple graphics is what im trying to say, we only do it on purpose

[stray bluff]

Came across this video on Instagram. Would anyone know what AI-video generator was used to create this video? Is it Veo 3?

[zealous sky]

hi

[shadow granite]

.glb .gltf 3d models are mostly made by artists. i wanted to make 3d models just by typing.

i don't want to use blender.

or 3d model tools like that. which artists use.

[ornate yew]

okay, i have experience with blender too and there is no need to be afraid of iot but i understand yur wish

so, in this case i would suggest procedural generation

because otherwise you are in for countless hours of hand modelling 3d assets by pure math

[proven musk]

There yah go @quartz leaf. Even cheaper.

[ornate yew]

why not github pages? @proven musk

[shadow granite]

hmm.

[proven musk]

@stray bluff Download it and check it's metadata.

[shadow granite]

btw. i was telling about that strange programming story of math ai. let me tell it also.

[proven musk]

Github pages would work, still would need a domain though.

Also, depends on what kind of site they're hosting

[quartz leaf]

I DONT HAVE THIS TYPE OF BUGET IF YOU DONT KNOW IN OUR COUNTRY IF WE WANT TO EARN LIKE 1400 TK WE NEED WORK LIKE 24 HOUR INSTANT SORRY BUT CAN YOU RATE MY WEBSITE I MAKE IT IN 1 PROMT

[shadow granite]

proving the x plus 1 whole squared formula using math ai

or a trigonometric proof.

this is my work.

[proven musk]

So this is mathematica or wolframscript?

Mathematica / WolframScript

[shadow granite]

this is python program's output.

the python program is 4000+ lines of code.

everyone should have a body of work in programming. then we can collaborate to build things whose complexity touches the sky. i am alone devoted to programming like this. but i am giving my best whatever i can do.

[proven musk]

All, good, that's what we are here for. Ask away, I'm always down for a collaboration or a little session.

[shadow granite]

yea. everyone should be having their knowledge with them. life is not limited to just other things. programming is also a important part of life. and programming people should have knowledge in programming - enough knowledge to share it. so that collaboration could be done.

[proven musk]

Also, I see that's the output of your program lmao, looks like the python interpreter, but the syntax is of a wolfram language

[shadow granite]

math equations are trees.

f_add
 f_mul
  d_3
  d_2
 d_1

(3*2)+1 once i input this string to python's input() i parse the string into this kind of tree.
there is a lot of process underneath the wolfram language-like syntax

[proven musk]

I understand it very well actually 😅

[shadow granite]

anyway. keep creating your own programming stuff. programming itself can be a way of life. if you try hard.

i made chess Ai also.

and did experiments with rule based nlp.

[ornate yew]

happy to share an earlier less run down version of robocity

the past 24 hours had me drowning in code spaghetti and the size doubled

it does not have the 4 player hotseat included or at least not implented in such a way that its working. but its completely playable from game start until you win/loose

[proven musk]

Share away, I'm just doing doing some cluster management.

[ornate yew]

ah damn, not allowed to post a html file in here

[proven musk]

Haha, how big is it?

Copy and paste the contents

[ornate yew]

94kb

[proven musk]

Pheeeeeeeeeeeew

He's been typing everybody.

[ornate yew]

and that is the small one 😄

the big one is 200kb but it has quite a bit of redundancy, probably 20% of the code is obsolete

[proven musk]

lmfao, that's quite big for an html file rofl

You have code blocks in there I'm assuming

[ornate yew]

yeah thats what happens if you stubbornly keep your conceptof everything has to fit in this html so it remains 100% standalone

[proven musk]

lololol

[ornate yew]

like REALY standalone

[proven musk]

You could of at least used other html files

[ornate yew]

sure, ore put some stuff in .js

[proven musk]

Lol architecture, one giant pole or a pyramid

[ornate yew]

i guess the pole 🤣

[proven musk]

How yah get up, how yah get down?

[ornate yew]

hm, i guess my onecloud link was considered unsafe as well 😅

the structure isnt that chaotic in the version i sent you

there is a section with generators that is a bit chaotic, i pasted improved generators there

other than that its relatively structured und commented

[proven musk]

Where'd yah send it at?

[ornate yew]

oh i posted here, it appeared but was removed after a minute or so

[proven musk]

oh darn lol

[ornate yew]

i will send you a dm with the onecloud link if that is okay for you

[proven musk]

Yeah totally

[ornate yew]

@shadow granite if you want to have a look i can send it to you to, so you can have a look at how my game makes stuff appear in 3d

[shadow granite]

ok send it

[rancid patio]

moved to #off-topic・🐢 !

[proven musk]

Sorry @rancid patio

@rancid patio Able to do me a favor and just delete it? I was wanting it in here to spark some conversations or aide in anyway.

[rancid patio]

that's fine! no stress! just moved it as it was not about anything labs related!

[neat charm]

i am sam and am new in here

[lethal rivet]

How Many of You Guys Have Gemini Pro?

[proven musk]

WELCOME SAM!

@lethal rivet 👋

[lethal rivet]

Yo

You Have or Use Gemini Pro?

[proven musk]

I have

[earnest pilot]

Hi, what's the right channel to talk about Gemini Flash 2.5 aka Nano Banana?

I have a question about the prompting, I am just unable to get what I want

[proven musk]

@earnest pilot I've seen it mentioned in the WHISK channel.

I'm sure it would be fine here though too, if not I'm sure it could be moved to the correct channel/category

[bronze marsh]

Hello. Gemini has its own dedicated community. You can join it here. https://discord.gg/gemini

[earnest pilot]

Oh? Sorry about that, I thought since i am using Google AI Studio, this would make more sense! But thank you!!

[vernal nebula]

How do I download without water marks?

[bronze marsh]

You just may get more help there. There are no dedicated channels for it here. You can of course discuss it here though. The #server-directory・☎️ may be helpful. ☺️

[echo marlin]

Hello guys

ANyone doing YT here?

[lethal rivet]

Guys do any of you use gemini pro?

What is your experience with it?

[proven musk]

Gemini Pro is good.

[vague ore]

anyone knows if ai generated content on veo3 holds coypright? my videos keep getting stolen and although I report it and show screenshots of me literallly generating the clips through my prompts I always get told that its not enough proof of copyright ....like idk

[left trail]

Ownership: Google has stated that users can utilize videos created with Veo 3 for commercial purposes, provided they have a valid subscription.
Copyright on generated content: The legal status of AI-generated content is complex. In the U.S., copyright law requires human authorship, which could mean purely AI-generated videos are not copyrightable. If a human significantly modifies an AI output, only the human's contribution may be eligible for copyright protection. 🤔

Add Significant Human Edits: This is the most crucial step. Don't just upload the raw output from Veo3. Take the clips and edit them in a video editing program. Add transitions, a soundtrack, sound effects, or a voiceover. The more you transform the raw output into a cohesive and unique video, the stronger your case for copyright will be.

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/LSB10922?hl=en-US#:~:text=Writings." Based on this authority,a human author—including works

[umbral mica]

I love my ledger stax

10/10

[woeful hinge]

Would it be okay if I made some merch with the Google Labs logo on it?
I’d like to ask for permission first.

[wild robin]

OK, so listen I literally tried it out for the first time and I lost my mind. It’s epic love it.

[hollow niche]

<@&1173646484311384114>

[pure lagoon]

i have paid google ultra subcription. flow is a subproduct. yet, the ai credits are consumed by flow. i have started my scrptiion on august 26. being december 18 yesterday, my tokens, which i didnt consume half of them were reset to 0. sorry, but i guess a month is until september 26. since i dont see any subchanel for subscriptions and money issues, and since this reset happens for all labs products which consume ai credits i'd like to know how im gonna be reissued my tokens that i did not consumed and should have experired on settmebr 26 , exactly one moenth. thanks

[drifting valve]

🫢

[frail heath]

cooking...

[brave summit]

Cool Check

[rancid patio]

please post any flow questions in #flow-general・🌊 or #1319424187730755636

[rapid shard]

I'd like to learn a lot about Gemini and Google. I'd like to expand my knowledge to understand how AI works and thinks, and of course, I also want to use it to improve my financial life.

[manic cedar]

I have zero coding experience and I’ve just started learning Python for ML, is there any advice?

[proven musk]

@manic cedar All kinds, what are you ambitions and goals? Are you trying to learn how to program?

[manic cedar]

Yes, eventually work with AI. 🤖

[hard meadow]

[manic cedar]

I joined a course, just needs some advices 😂

[proven musk]

That's what I mean, not an actual course haha

All that stuff on the internet is garbage

[manic cedar]

Gotcha, I thought you are selling me courses 😣

[thorny junco]

So now with the recent changes they've nerfed character creation? So unless I can get it to remain consistent my character wont be as scary?

[proven musk]

No way, I run a nonprofit haha

@manic cedar

[smoky marlin]

😂 lots of work to do

[willow ridge]

what things do you have to do?

[smoky marlin]

I have way to much credits that I have not been using

So I am losing about 1500 credits every month

Got to do some videos

[chilly sand]

Ok

[shy roost]

hi

[tacit lily]

Amazing idea with the animal levels. Great for keeping engagement more consistent. Definitely addictive

[outer wagon]

thank you, Labs Little Snail

[tacit lily]

do not call me that , my little snail is my little snail and I'm Russ and her name is Slim Pickins 🤦‍♂️

[tired wedge]

Hi, I just started. I don't see a help chat and have what I feel like is a dumb problem with flow not doing what I want... is there a chat that I'm missing?

[proven flare]

Anyone having issues with google stuido text to speech?

[outer wagon]

hey, welcome to the community! we have an entire Flow section that could help. the entire channel list is available in #server-directory・☎️ but I'll link them below as well:

#flow-announcements・📣
#flow-general・🌊
#flow-videos・📹
#flow-tips-n-tricks・✏️
#1319424187730755636

[elder dagger]

what kinda issue did you face?

[tepid hedge]

is there an api

[upbeat helm]

For?

[tepid hedge]

to use flow programatically? just curious

[upbeat helm]

Do you mean an API for Google Flow?

[left trail]

To access a Google API, go to the Google API Console, enable the specific API you need, and generate credentials (API key, OAuth, or service account) to authenticate your requests.
The Google API Console, now known as the Google Cloud Console, is located at https://console.cloud.google.com/

[dense spoke]

What's the protocol for other Labs apps, like the new Windows app (feedback, q&a, etc)?

[proven musk]

Experimental like all labs products. You can find its card under the labs page

Signed into my personal account, but you can enable it via the labs card.

[dense spoke]

Oddly when viewing the site with Comet, the feedback UI doesn't appear. Edge works fine. feedback reported. Thanks boss!

[proven musk]

Yes sir!

[willow ridge]

yes, flow provides a api through its cli and sdks. you can use libraries like flow-js-sdk or flow-go-sdk depending on your environment

[outer wagon]

hey y'all - as a reminder, this is a space dedicated to discussing Google Labs tools, the broader world AI, and other on-topic themes. as per server rule #1: be compassionate and treat others with kindness and respect. while there will be times of tension and disagreement, please help keep the server a space welcoming for all.

you can find the rest of these rules & guidelines by clicking here ➡️ #rules-and-guidelines・📋.

[shadow folio]

anyone else blow through their credits today not knowing they started taking them away? not happy!

[shadow folio]

i was never notified that credits were being taken again for veo. i blew threw what i had not knowing this. is there anything i can do about it?

[bitter wagon]

Hey guys, do you know why all of the image 2 videos with veo 3 look slow motion

I tried spamming "fast action, dynamic, fast-paced," but its slow

If i use the prompt but in text2vid it does look fast

[nova belfry]

I don't remember a time Flow generations didnt cost credits. Unless ur talking about something else

[bitter wagon]

Saw once a visual bug where it said 0 credits

I refreshed the page and fixed that

[golden snow]

What is up my mammals

[left trail]

Enlarged Icons

[small whale]

"Just vibe code." They said. "You just type in a sentence." They said.

A few days later: using mind maps to preplan a full IFTTT sequence for the next project to save the amount of prompts and bug fixes to have to do in the future.

Still not actually coding but the amount of "vibe" I'm doing is getting exponentially smaller 😆

[willow ridge]

can you explain in detail?

[small whale]

Not detail at the moment, but essentially planning out the backend before setting Jules loose on the front

[thorny junco]

sucks, but at least flow in the scene builder is keeping him consistent, it seems neo banana or image generation wont just cause he's scary or may simulate violent nature. I couldn't even get and image of my jedi holding a lightsaber in an offensive stance at the Sith, this is what it said " However, I can create an image of Frey holding his lightsaber in a defensive or ready stance, with the green glow illuminating both his face and partially Darth Cronus's, maintaining the intensity of their confrontation without depicting direct physical aggression." I'm just hoping I can get to the end of my story to where I'm happy with it, without losing too much of what I've already invested to complete the story.

[wooden sonnet]

Can someone explain why notebook LM is now generating things a lot shorter than like 40 minutes plus?

[simple shale]

Yeah... Google AI Studio is cooked

🙁

[fiery edge]

Hello everyone,

I'd like to report a bug with the image generation feature on Gemini. It seems that the system is currently only producing square images (1:1), even when I specifically request a 16:9 aspect ratio in my prompts.

This happens with various prompts and keywords like "16:9 aspect ratio" and "ar 16:9". I hope this issue can be resolved soon.

Thank you for your hard work!

[digital kelp]

sorry to hear this! if you’d like to join the Gemini community to report this, you can do so at discord.gg/gemini

[fiery edge]

Thank you bro, today I 've just known this

[wooden sonnet]

Can someone explain why notebook LM is now generating things a lot shorter than like 40 minutes plus?

[frigid stump]

This makes me so happy, I can't even tell you... 🙂 🙂

[subtle bramble]

how do i get gemini access on chrome ?

i am on pro plan

[left trail]

Nano Banana model only create 1:1 size image by default. Just uncheck the banana 🍌 icon, let Gemini switch back to Imagen ⁴ model, your aspect ratio request will work again.

[fiery edge]

For the past week I have been using the method you mentioned and it's still ok, but today it still gives a square photo.

[left trail]

Make sure you don't use nano banana to get other aspect ratio

[fiery edge]

uncheck or check then the same result

yesterday it's ok with uncheck nano banana, but it's not okay now

[left trail]

Wonder why Gemini AI answer in Vet 😅?

[fiery edge]

Why not???

[scarlet mural]

yo

[quartz leaf]

https://aurawebsitebuilder.netlify.app/ MY WEBSITE I MADE IT

[limber igloo]

well this is impressive

[bitter wagon]

Love the parallax

[rancid olive]

good afternoon guys

[deep remnant]

wat

[shadow folio]

The Ultra Pro announced they weren't charging credits and they didn't. Then they never announced them going back to charging them. Maybe 2 to 3 week ago, somewhere in there.

[dull holly]

Any text to speech tool in google labs?

[wooden sonnet]

Can someone explain why notebook LM is now generating things a lot shorter than like 40 minutes plus? and someone please respond to this.

[nova heron]

Hey guys

@crisp nova what do you need?

[crisp nova]

What do you mean?

[left trail]

Text-to-Speech AI: Lifelike Speech Synthesis | Google Cloud https://share.google/KBSYf37aHM5MD47nB

[velvet zodiac]

Hey everyone, does anyone know how can i find flow videos?

[warped nimbus]

https://labs.google/experiments

[nova heron]

You added me?

[clear delta]

Guys, what's the best source, example, website or document, etc., for me to add to my chatgpt?
where do you get the best content? to educate your chatgpt ??

[wooden sonnet]

@bronze marsh Can someone explain why notebook LM is now generating things a lot shorter than like 40 minutes plus?

[bronze marsh]

Hi there. This server is for Google Labs and that is not a moderator question. You may want to hop over to the NotebookLM server. You may have better luck there. https://discord.gg/notebooklm

[latent dagger]

hey guys im having trouble with nano banana im uploading images that i have from Ai and drawings of my own from years ago and i wanted to make gemini redraw them in the right anatomy, proportions and all while keeping same pose, gemini agree to my prompt but never changes the image or redraw on his own in a correct way, any ideas, tips or prompts for that?

[proven musk]

UndeadKing

@latent dagger I can DM you a instruction set for AI studio.

[latent dagger]

send me

🦆

[cursive cave]

Hola

[proven musk]

Hello

[alpine oar]

hiya, orchid here, good to be here!

[proven musk]

Welcome Orchid!

[weary galleon]

Anyone else unable to access AI Studio, Flow or media gen. features in Gemini Chat at the moment?

I have Pro and it says Failed to load models and immediately throws me to th "Available regions for Google AI" page
for no obvious reason.

[proven musk]

Hmm, no issues on my end.

VPN maybe?

[weary galleon]

I tried both without and with

Cache clearing didn't work

[proven musk]

I'd suggest without, but maybe try refreshing the cache

LMAO
Well then.

[weary galleon]

lo

[proven musk]

Let's see, bring up dev tools.

Hit the network tab and see if anything fails to fetch and then check the console for error

[weary galleon]

On Flow its quiet

On AI Studio how am I supposed to see the logs in 0.5 seconds

ℹ️ confirmed logging out and log on didn't fix anything

[proven musk]

The logs remain persistent between reloads

[weary galleon]

Yes

I'm going to leave it for tonight. will check tomorrow

[proven musk]

myaccount.google.com/age-verification

[weary galleon]

It could never be because I'm logged on with the wrong account... because there's 1.

[proven musk]

Double check your pro account is logged in

[weary galleon]

Yes I even tried in incognito a second ago

[proven musk]

Incognito usually wont allow you

[weary galleon]

lo ok

[proven musk]

Is your payment info verified and your age?

Also no VPN or proxy

Could also check families.google.com and make sure you're not restricted.

Are you on windows on linux?

Or Mac lol

[weary galleon]

Yeah I'm not a robot

Oh Win11

Edge by the way

[proven musk]

ipconfig /flushdns

Chromium based so it'll be just fine on Edge

[weary galleon]

You're not telling that flushdns two days ago was the cause for this 😅

[proven musk]

I'd manually put 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1 as your namespace

or DNS servers

[weary galleon]

alright

[proven musk]

Also, toggle off all extensions, something is blocking the generation from running

[weary galleon]

Flushdns didn't affect anything

[proven musk]

Then refresh the page

[weary galleon]

hold on

[proven musk]

Ctrl + F5

Check network again and console.

[weary galleon]

This thing is so quikc it won't give me the chance to refresh

[weary galleon]

Finished. No luck

[weary galleon]

Same error log as before

[proven musk]

You can refresh from the network tab, clear it, top left, circle with line through it, like stop.

Then it'll have refresh in the middle, or you can Ctrl + F5 inside of dev tools

[weary galleon]

https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/available-regions

Does it show you ERR_BLOCKED_BY_CLIENT on your side with DevTools or is that just me?

Wow

It looks so plain on image, as if I don't have a Pro account

[proven musk]

Yeah that's weird, I have nonprofit access to things, so I'm unfamiliar with the subscription service

No uBlock or anything like that on lmfao, sorry I know I already asked

[weary galleon]

No, turned off every single extension when you asked me to 😊

[proven musk]

Did you change any flags recently?

[weary galleon]

Not at all

I almost never touch flags.
The most recent I can think of: disabling Edge window borders

You know what, I appreciate your help @proven musk but I'm gonna call it a night

[proven musk]

Nah, it's almost like a CORS policy

Let me try and replicate it, you could try to curl the URL and check the headers that way.

[weary galleon]

I notice a few other peeps #flow-general・🌊 encounter related issues

What was curl again 🫠

[proven musk]

Um, it's a networking tool used for data transfer and such

But you can throw some flags on it and get a nice print out

[weary galleon]

Ah I see

[proven musk]

curl -v

[weary galleon]

Speaking of print out, there's this redirect
https://aistudio.google.com/welcome

[proven musk]

Followed by any server address

[weary galleon]

Bruh even this directly throws me to the help page, which we don't want

[weary galleon]

I tried with curl -v https://aistudio.google.com/

[proven musk]

curl -v -H "Origin: http://another-domain.com" https://aistudio.google.com/prompts/new_chat

Pick any other domain you'd like

[weary galleon]

What should I look for at dem headers?

[proven musk]

Send em to me haha

[weary galleon]

I wasn't sure how to use this
Tbh I used an online curl tool because I'm not on Linux

[proven musk]

Oh you can get curl on w11

But, that works too!

[weary galleon]

I sent you a dm

[left trail]

Are you in unsupported region 🤔?

[weary galleon]

No

[proven musk]

He's used it before, the header is a pure account authorization error though

[remote bridge]

hey guys, im in france and i cannot use veo 3, im really upset & frustated bout it

i feel like i've been banned for no reason

[weary galleon]

Hm and I'm not even using Gemini for 5 months already

[remote bridge]

ffs google...

[weary galleon]

Meaning to say it shouldn't be a payment related issue

[remote bridge]

banning anyone for no reason

[proven musk]

The only thing I can think of Tobie, is to switch accounts, try for the auth error again. It's highly unlikely to be the same.

run an @gmail.com email

[weary galleon]

Let me se if that worx

[remote bridge]

google is making me hating ai cuz of their shtty bugs

[proven musk]

Are you apart of an organization / workspace?

@remote bridge you have an active Pro sub?

[remote bridge]

yup, trial

[weary galleon]

Are you kidding me

[proven musk]

Are you sure your IPv4 routes back to France?

[remote bridge]

yup

[proven musk]

Did it work? ROFL

[remote bridge]

im in france since im kid, idk why they woud ban me or smth

but i feel like vpn messed up

[proven musk]

Oh well check, see where it's sticking you geographically.

[weary galleon]

Lol listen, I switched to my Youtube account (where I manage Youtube) and it allows me to access Flow with 100 credits.

Then I switched back to the Pro one and it goes back to 🤖 It looks like you don't have access to Flow 🤖

[remote bridge]

france

just checked rn

[proven musk]

Ok, hmm. I'd try your cache.

[remote bridge]

already done

[weary galleon]

Google AI is so stupid it reminds me of that yellow robot cooking meme

[remote bridge]

didnt try to clear cookies tho

[proven musk]

Lol, they have a ton going on. If you're apart of a workspace you'll need to make sure the permissions are still set.

Cookies will handle your session token. Worth a shot.

[remote bridge]

im not into workspace stuff tho

just a single trial

[proven musk]

Not you @remote bridge

[remote bridge]

ok mb

[proven musk]

@weary galleon

Sorry.

[remote bridge]

dw

btw apparently my problem is common

i checked up a video on youtube

hope it fix

[weary galleon]

I'll keep that in mind to try tomorrow, thanks

[proven musk]

Yeah you can also check your dev tools, the network tab and then the console for any errors or failed fetches.

@weary galleon You off for now bud?

[weary galleon]

Yes it's night

[proven musk]

Alright, well I'm going to go pick up some pizza. I'll check here when I get back for you @remote bridge

[weary galleon]

There should be a cookies and data list (to clear) on Edge as well. I'm used to Chrome

[remote bridge]

ok ok

[weary galleon]

Enjoy your pizza @proven musket and thanks for all your help

gn

[proven musk]

No problem, gn man!

[latent dagger]

imagine when the world becomes like detroit becomes human game, i want my android

[timber warren]

Whatever it is just drop it

[remote bridge]

@proven musk i switched account & feel like its an account issue

[timber warren]

Who tf do you assume looks at this channel the YouTube CEO? 😆

[latent dagger]

what is ai age estimation?

[timber warren]

You redeemed the 25$ gift card to purchase some product or acquire a service

[remote bridge]

btw google ai is saying all my accounts aren't eligible

why google isnt fixing all issues? they must have time to do so

[timber warren]

That depends normally its between 12 and 14

[remote bridge]

i feel like im having age issue with google ai

i hate their strict rules

im major so why do they care so much about it

[timber warren]

Strict? Compared with?

[remote bridge]

like i tried to access veo 3 with many account nothing worked

[timber warren]

Us, Europe?

[remote bridge]

im in europe

[timber warren]

Access it trough flow

[remote bridge]

cant

feel like ive been ban ip for no reason

[latent dagger]

i dont like using flow, they censor anything, very annoying

[remote bridge]

i know vpn is a reason but like why just banning falsely

[timber warren]

Because European union...

[remote bridge]

but didn't they said to give access?

[timber warren]

We are not supposed to be using it at all 🙂

[remote bridge]

oh so they locked it?

i hate europe, wheres freedom

[timber warren]

No we have partial access to it

I did access without using vpn

[remote bridge]

i couldnt access without vpn :))

and i feel like google kinda hate me

[timber warren]

I don't see how VPN will help, the block is on the account

[remote bridge]

on every account i make? its weird

[timber warren]

When we create an account it gets locked to a region

And each region as a different plan

[remote bridge]

anyway i dont have energy anymore to use ai, me who needed money to live with help of ai i cant

its lose of hope

[timber warren]

Well you are in Europe most countries will pay better for a minimum wage than anything you will do as online freelancer

[latent dagger]

im trying to make a cool and menancing wallpaper to use on my cellphone with devil jin, lol the ai block, its because of the attack prompt?

[remote bridge]

also i feel like they fixed the vpn method

i dont wanna wait itll took 3 freaking years dear god

i hate europe so much

[timber warren]

Not sure I got the regular Gemini ai subscription, a bunch of ai credits but never use it

[remote bridge]

btw apparently skyreels is an alternative to veo 3

nvm

[proven musk]

https://myaccount.google.com/age-verification?pli=1&utm_source=p0

[timber warren]

You’ve already verified your age. Thank you for confirming that you’re old enough to use certain Google services.

[proven musk]

Wasn't for you haha

[timber warren]

Kling ai, runway, sora and a bunch of others

[left trail]

Perhaps you should request a refund 😅..

[simple shale]

Is there another way I can use Veo 2 generations for free since I cant use Google AI Studio

[left trail]

YouTube app offers unlimited Veo³ right now

[simple shale]

That has image to video?

[left trail]

Yupe

Just roll out 2 days ago...

[simple shale]

How do I record without capturing my phone mic

[bitter wagon]

Happens to me too this

My google account is 8 years old I’m 23 and live in a region where flow is available yet I can’t use it

[left trail]

Why use camera 🤔?

[simple shale]

I mean how do I do it

[proven musk]

Don't allow the mic, just the camera.

App settings

Also Michael I can try and help you through the authentication / errors preventing you from using the service

[latent dagger]

explain

[simple shale]

Its not the authentication errors. The issue is Google AI Studios 0/10 Generations hasnt reset

[proven musk]

Oh sorry, misunderstood.

[edgy urchin]

@final granite
Are you a Whisk subscriber?

[young stream]

I didnt even mentions minors/kids whatsoever
Hell I asked for a text based reply too not even a damn image
Im def on a list now. Thanks Gems.

[frigid stump]

This must be a newer or more sensitive thing. I tried to make a silly picture for my aunt (she's babysitting my cousin and wanted to send the parents something silly) and it refused.

[proven musk]

RIP

[proven musk]

DUCK DUCK

[simple shale]

I dont have that option

Just Video, Image, etc.

[left trail]

Make sure update to latest version

[proven musk]

What's everyone doing?

[zinc yoke]

hi, is anyone using veo3 through vertex ai? It seems like an option for duration 4, 6 seconds were added but does not seem to work 🙁 it keeps giving me the video length of 8 when I set the duration to 4 or 6

[dusky ravine]

😆

[edgy urchin]

Are you a Whisk subscriber?

[edgy urchin]

@vast barn

Are you a Whisk subscriber?

[iron swan]

What IS the problem with NanoBanana? It's completely useless.

These are images I made on Google AI Studio itself months ago, when it was still bad at generating pictures.
I put them in Gemini and asked to make an hd anime screenshot of this cyberpunk mad hatter.
It refused because it violates its policy.

Despite this being my own original character that was made with Google itself.

And that's just one example. It tends to refuse a good 80% of my prompts, making it pretty..... useless.

I then asked a fanart of league of legends, and it said it cannot do copyrighted characters. GPT can.

I'll be honest...... it's unusuable

[final granite]

yes free month subscription

[edgy urchin]

Ok, No, i want a subscribtion person

[final granite]

what do you mean?

[edgy urchin]

Sorry, Manual error🙂

[proven musk]

GOOD MORNING FOOLS

[edgy urchin]

Are you a Whisk subscriber?

[proven musk]

I have everything, what's up

[lofty stone]

Where

[edgy urchin]

Nice😁 , This is what I was looking for, I will send 🙂 you some of my created images for you to turn into a video🖼️🔄 ⏯️

[kindred ether]

i'm struggling to see how those would violate the content policy. The one on the right, maybe it thinks he has some kind of violent head injury bc the top of his head is oddly shaped? The one on the left...has his tongue out? Seems really odd. Nano Banana is a great tool but the restrictions are rather much imo. Forget "It blocks PG-13 content that would be permissible on mainstream television", I'll often have perfectly G rated material get blocked seemingly just because the app interpeted the camera angle, facial expression, or body language the wrong way (especially if there's a female character involved)

[iron swan]

It didn't even tell me what was wrong with it. It's ridiculous!

[kindred ether]

I find that frustrating as well, often I'm not even sure what the issue is I need to fix (once in a while it turns out there was no issue at all, the app was just blocking a particular output I guess because it was too glitchy or something). Honestly NB is a perfect example of where AI is at these days, where the technology itself is getting very high level & the main limiting factor is companies putting massive artificial restrictions on it

[edgy urchin]

I agree with you, I've noticed this too, the struggle with errors, is caused by bans for rights violations.

[kindred ether]

Could be it associates the term "cyberpunk" with the video game

[boreal granite]

I was unable to go, even though I wanted to.

[edgy urchin]

What?
Is there something weird I said?

[final granite]

@edgy urchin "Ok, No, i want a subscribtion person" what does that mean?

[proven musk]

Someone with an active subscription to the platform.

[final granite]

maybe you should ask nicely? this is more like a command 😀

[proven musk]

I don't believe he's American, it's his translation.

[final granite]

yeah probably. I'm a bit itchy from guys like this sorry

[proven musk]

No need to apologize, I'm sure people demanding things isn't a pleasurable experience.

[final granite]

I am totally willing to share but ppl need to be polite 🤗

[edgy urchin]

If you get upset, tell me not to talk to you, so I don't make mistakes with you

[final granite]

that's not what is about. missing the point @edgy urchin

[edgy urchin]

At least the man is understanding, and also understands the way of speaking, he is a conscious human being.

[final granite]

yes. Let's keep it at that 😁

[proven musk]

Bummer @final granite 22 year old X account suspended. Nice YT though and artsieworks

[final granite]

Tnx! yeah X is not so much my thing anymore 🤗
Everything that reeks of Musk I abhor

I have been out of the AI loop for about a year. Genning images on a friend's private server but no animation. Need to get back in the saddle with all new Toys ⭐

@proven musk Looks like you're a pro

[proven musk]

Hahaha, not with art.

I run a nonprofit, so I deal in several modalities, leading in most.

public and private sectors

[left trail]

You just had to prompt better 😅

[final granite]

and what are those?

[proven musk]

Oh you're curious to know what we do at ORDL?

[final granite]

yup

could go yo the site of course, but a chat is nice too

[proven musk]

Not sure if I am allowed to like, do that, but for instance I have several departments, from agriculture, healthcare, government, to artificial intelligence, data science, pragmatic engineering, etc.

We literally, do everything.

Right at this moment, I am actually upgrading the server infrastructure that hosts my site, encrypted communications, satellite, etc.

No RAID today.

[final granite]

interesting, and why are you here on this chat?

[proven musk]

I'm actually onboarding Google partnership/collaboration.

Plus I love to help

Teach

Learn, all things.

[final granite]

that's very nice to hear.

moderator? @unreal wraith needs to go

[proven musk]

@digital kelp

[final granite]

difficulty to talk now

[proven musk]

I hit all 5 of you at once, RIP. @mellow citrus

[final granite]

uggggh

[proven musk]

Yikes, mods need to be moddin.

@grim badge Hello, anybody home?

[final granite]

We can go to anothe thread @proven musk

pfffff sigh ❤️

[proven musk]

RIP

aroni.

[final granite]

?

[proven musk]

Nothing, lol. Just being silly. RIP + aroni. RIPARONI.

To him.

[final granite]

I thought that but just to be sure. I'm Dutch

[proven musk]

Nice, a dutchess.

[rancid patio]

please @ mods next time!

[proven musk]

OH sorry, duh.

I panicked? rofl.

[rancid patio]

no worries lmaooo

got it sorted!

[final granite]

yeah me too sensory overload ‼️

[proven musk]

You said it, @final granite .

[final granite]

🤗

see you later @proven musk 🏵️

[proven musk]

Bye for now!

🌼

[lofty stone]

hoi

Any ai devloper here

[iron swan]

yeah no. now it says it generated the image while it didn't generate anything. No, you're not supposed to wrestle with Gemini and hope it understands a simple concept.

STILL haven't gotten it to do the image.

"for my own safety and wellbeing"

[proven musk]

@lofty stone Here.

[lofty stone]

where do you work

[proven musk]

Open Research and Development Laboratories, partnered with Red Hat Inc. IBM, Intel a few others.

[left trail]

That's exactly the point to prompt better, not to trigger safety keyword filters and let the AI do what they supposed to do .

[iron swan]

I don't need to tiptoe around prompts when I use gpt.

So, how did you get it to work?

[left trail]

Gpt just is worst than Gemini on safety and copyright topics. I'm a gpt subscriber.

I ran cloth swap prompt

[iron swan]

you have to be kidding me, lol

gpt can make league of legends, dc comics, etc. without problems

I haven't managed to make ONE fanart with gemini

[left trail]

Try Kermit the Frog

[iron swan]

I don't want kermit, I want, say, darius from league of legends

[left trail]

Show me if you can generate 1 Kermit the Frog from chatgpt

[iron swan]

let's see

[uncut cape]

does anyone know how to fix this?

[iron swan]

@left trail

I'm sorry but Gemini is just way too useless compared to GPT

it'll censor anything and everything

[left trail]

Ok, I guess you are better with gpt 😅.

[iron swan]

no, Gemini is just bad

and even if we ignore already existing characters, it'll refuse to do anything

[left trail]

Just found out they removed Imagen ⁴ in Gemini app image generation.

Now every image generation with or without nano 🍌 selected are all handled by Nano 🍌.

[meager spire]

Thank me later....Gemini still wins

Darius btw

[edgy urchin]

Do you guys mean by gemini a whisk?

[meager spire]

Because nanotechnology still wins above everything.

Gpt has it's own pros and cons, but overall Gemini still shines slightly better. Heck most of you haven't scraped the canvas feature fully fo make 1 shot apps or games in under 1 minute

[left trail]

Its ok. Everyone had their flavors fruit, whether it's 🍌 or 🍎😅.

[meager spire]

👍

All my good morning messages were done solely from Gemini

[left trail]

I'm glad I still had access to those Imagen ³,⁴, Ultra

[meager spire]

Yeah images are cool..but we all know the future is worlds

[uneven ocean]

Hey guys just wanted to know about Whisk in Google Ai pro plan, how many image to video animations are allowed in the proplan

[meager spire]

Not sure I haven't used whisk in awhile

[left trail]

You get 1k AI credit per month, shared between on flow, whisk .

[bright flare]

hello, i am just playing around with https://aistudio.google.com . i told it to write a simple python app and it wrote react app. i said this isn't python and it told me "You are absolutely right. My apologies for the misunderstanding. I have replaced the web application with the Python script you originally requested," but it didnt . is this even able to generate python code or am i doing it wrong ?

[proven musk]

Invite me to your chat lol.

It's very capable.

[uneven ocean]

And one image to video takes how many credits?

[iron swan]

Lol, did you pick an image of Darius, and tell it to make another image of it?

because that's cheating

[meager spire]

I did both...it's not cheating if it still available

[iron swan]

ahahah, gotcha

gpt doesn't need reference images, it just makes the characters.

[meager spire]

That's why I did both...same results

Banana split results

[worldly forge]

Has anyone gotten rate-limited using gemini-2.5-flash-image-preview, immediately after hitting use via API.

I haven't use it all and immediately get the "Rate Limit hit" error...

[latent dagger]

about studio ai temperature how much it influence the image edits?

[proven musk]

@latent dagger Want to know a good tip for finding the ranges that are tune for yourself and/or the project?

[latent dagger]

speak

[proven musk]

Alright, for me I use names, like titles for a project for example. Let's say you have an idea in your head for a name, meaning, background, definition, origins, language, etc. You non verbatim describe what you're looking for and that it's a project title. Starting at base ranges for each tunable value, and incrementing or decrementing each iteration. With AI Studio, you can delete the response, leave the Research and Development (the "thoughts"), and run it back and check the differences it makes. You can also remove the entire session to keep it completely fresh and reseeded each time to get a good tune then fine tune it further by keeping the thoughts.

[latent dagger]

i understood nothing, what it has to do with the temperature in ai studio?

[left trail]

Near 0 value 100% adhesive to prompt, 1+ value lead to super creative outcomes....

[proven musk]

You can tune it by doing what I said.

@UndeadKing Want to know a good tip for

[white kernel]

May I ask where could I apply to use Genie3 for testing purposes? I am a 3DGS art creator. Thanks a lot!

[iron swan]

can gemini even draw anything?

I asked for a photo of this medieval woman talking to this medieval peasant boy. it refused because it was.... against the policy?

it really takes skill to be this useless, lol

is there a way to use this image feature WITHOUT gemini's idiocy? maybe it'll work?

[left trail]

Because You hit the forbidden minor keyword filter.

[kindred ether]

There's definitely certain keywords that seem to trigger the filter (anything sexually suggestive, anything suggesting violence, most terms suggesting youth, copyright stuff), but there also appears to be an image filter that will block images with a totally innocuous prompt if something looks "off" (classic example water or sweat in the wrong lighting that makes the AI interpret it as blood)

[bright cliff]

I'm looking for an AI video to video tool where I can type in a prompt say "Ice Age" and then it converts the video with the characters and background into an ice age type environment and maybe the characters look like cavemen while keeping the same movements and audio as the original clip. Does anyone know one?

[latent dagger]

what prompt did you use

[bronze marsh]

reminder, general is not the place to ask questions about products as we have #flow-general・🌊 #whisk-general・💭 and #jules-general・🦑 where your product specific questions can be asked. Thank you!

[latent dagger]

i liked making images demon possessed, the ai started to block my prompts these days

[subtle bramble]

Should I buy pixel 9 or 10 or wait for pixel 10A ?

[kindred ether]

I just got a Pixel 10 but I had a Pixel 2 before that, I tend to hold onto my phones for a while so the upgrade feels like a bigger deal

[subtle bramble]

Nice but will there be a pixel 10 A next summer ?

Do I wait

[kindred ether]

hmm good question. The main deciding factor for me was that the charger port on the old one had broke one time too many. if not for that i could have held out longer

[subtle bramble]

The only concern on 10 A that it will be tensor G 4 AND NOT 5

As per rumours

[rugged light]

I used Nano Banana for the first time yesterday, and I was quite shocked that it doesn't generate images when I prompted with non-english. I've also heard there are many cases that Gemini responds with only text, but no image.

Is it known limitation? If so, I want to see the official guideline from Google (e.g., Try xml-like prompt with only English). Any help?

[spice needle]

i'm not sure about the language limitations, but i have encountered the only text results before even when i used a clear english language prompt. I think it's just a glitch

[rugged light]

Oh, thx for sharing your experience.

In my short experiment, I see some patterns rather than a glitch... 🤔

• Tried with long Korean text 5 times, all failed (with Gemini / Google AI Studio)
• Tried with short English text 2 times, all succeeded (non-xml)
  • But this also might fail as you said
• Tried with short Korean text 2 times, all failed

My pal said he always prompts in xml format in English, which gives him 95% success rate.

[paper ravine]

is there any news abou the Google App for Windows Desktop app from Labs? I received news about it, but I can't find anything about it in here, or in the official site... is it still to be launched? is it restricted to users in English language?

[proven musk]

You can download it

[spice needle]

having a structured format definitely improves success - whether it's XML, JSON, or your own invented structure - as long as you are explicit and organized with your instructions, the prompt should work!

There are times when random glitches happen though, and in those cases just open a new chat and start over.

As for the language - it's possible that it's failing in part due to the model having less data in Korean vs English. So smaller data pool results in more errors

[rugged light]

FYI, my tests were all in new sessions. Haha

Considering data pool, I've been using Korean (for daily usage) since Gemini 2.5 Pro, because I saw it automatically, internally thinks in English. I was too sticked to it.

I just realized that Nano Banana is not a thinking model, thus I should go back to the old habit (using English prompt).

I was looking for official guide or something, but it was just typical prompt engineering. lol

Thx for your help!

[left trail]

Plug in a translator module in prompt, so you can generate with any language input 🤔

[rugged light]

Haha what I wanted to know was the underlying reason of the behavior, not the solution. But thx for the comment anyway!

[left trail]

The underlying reason is they built nano 🍌 as a English prompt reasoning LLM. Instead multi language reasoning LLM.

[swift jolt]

All of us sooner or later.

[swift jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/we're-stuck-in-here-forever-beavis-mike-judge-mike-judge's-beavis-and-butt-head-s2-e10-gif-320236537074760183

[proven musk]

https://tenor.com/bLxDv.gif

[swift jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/frustrated-so-gif-22952194

[latent dagger]

i combined these two photos and the result was the first image

[rancid olive]

good morning

[proven musk]

Morning!

[pure plinth]

Morning!

[swift jolt]

hi guys

[proven musk]

Hello

[tawdry vault]

Good morning everyone

[proven musk]

https://tenor.com/tqzDGrX9jAq.gif

[minor shale]

looking for free ai tool

[final granite]

from where? And good morning 🤗

[proven musk]

Let me find the link, one second. Good morning! 🌼

[final granite]

Can you explain what is an api? How to use that? I see that often...

[proven musk]

https://labs.google.com/search/experiment/40

[final granite]

😭😭😭😭

[proven musk]

An API - Application Programming Interface

It's like a set of rules and protocols that allows different software to communicate

Like a messenger taking one request from one to another and returning a response.

oof.

[final granite]

ok and can you use it for a bot?
I saw an interesting video model that offer free api

[proven musk]

Most definitely

[final granite]

ok I'll ask more later. Going to swim in wonderful warm water now ⭐

[proven musk]

enjoy.

🌼

[final granite]

🏵️

[echo marlin]

Hello 🙁

[austere gust]

what did i just get??

[snow bone]

Hey everyone

[iron swan]

did you notice that the 3rd image in gemini doesn't follow the prompt?

every time

[plush stratus]

why cant i get in flow it says flow television?\

[worn rune]

Google AI Studio / Gemini API availability in Réunion Island (France, EU)

Hello Google team and community,

I'm writing to raise an issue about the availability of Google AI Studio and the Gemini API. As a developer based in Réunion Island, a French department and a region of the European Union, I am currently blocked from accessing these services. The error message I receive says, "This service is not available in your country."

This is a significant barrier for our local tech community. We are unable to access the same tools as our counterparts in mainland France.

I have already posted about this on the [Google Developers Forum] https://discuss.ai.google.dev/t/subject-google-ai-studio-gemini-api-unavailable-in-reunion-island-france-eu/106159) and on LinkedIn. I believe it's important to also bring this to your attention here on Discord, as this community is very active.

Is there a specific reason why Réunion Island is not included in the list of eligible regions? Could this be a simple oversight that could be corrected?

Thank you for your time and consideration.

[quiet flare]

[woeful moat]

I found this new experiment in labs.google.com website.

did anyone try it? How is it different from notebooklm?

The immersive view kinda looks cool and new 😃

[willow ridge]

im gonna design logo, anyone can recommend best logo design tool?

[grave turret]

yo guys

[grave turret]

you can make use of https://www.canva.com/

[iron swan]

Gemini CANNOT be this dumb, I must be doing something wrong??

a genius, indeed

[left trail]

I think gpt will handle this better

[grave turret]

yes sure

[bleak night]

Yo

[iron swan]

gpt handles almost everything better, unfortunately

[left trail]

Yes, 👍🏻.

[sand cosmos]

Anyone know how to make new viral white cat ai stories

[tulip agate]

Can someone help me pick out my new pfp

[left trail]

Use story 💎

[sand cosmos]

I have a problem with script.

[left trail]

Tell Gemini to solve it

[sand cosmos]

How I can generate scripts like that and prompts. I tried with chatgpt and Gemini but It didn't worked

[sand cosmos]

They generate a story completey different from the niche

[left trail]

Maybe your script too complex for AI to follow

[sand cosmos]

What kind of video you made?

[proven musk]

peeks inside

[worthy herald]

https://tenor.com/view/monke-gif-4007877678756330230

[proven musk]

lmao.

[winter parcel]

guys

whats the most iconic starwars song?

[proven musk]

I would assume the intro?

[winter parcel]

ok

fair

[fluid fractal]

Imperial March yeah

[winter parcel]

I would say the same

[thorn bison]

I don't know why is Georgia profile picture is now an otter...

[placid comet]

does anyone have a funny or cool story about computers or phones or old technology or new technology

it can be 1 sentence

[earnest mulch]

yah bro

My little cousin thought the floppy disk icon was just a ‘save emoji’ he didn’t know it was a real thing 😭💾

[placid comet]

haha, i guess that’s an easy mistake if u have never seen a floppy disk

[frozen pendant]

WHISK DOWN????

[dense latch]

well this channel aint rlly the issue report spot

[carmine lantern]

Why is English now the only supported language for video generation? Previously, the flow generated voices in other languages ​​just fine...

[worn rune]

Thanks, where is the appropriate channel ?

[dense latch]

I would go to gemini api channel in google developer community for ur query

.gg/google-dev-community for the discord

[narrow python]

yoo has anyone got a prompt to stop the black boxs. i always want it full screen

[worn geode]

Guys when did the flashcards and quiz get added to NotebookLM? They're so cool!

[torn zephyr]

Is there a good prompt enhancer ai for flow?

[formal flume]

Can I rejoin Google Workspace labs? Accidentally I opted out from labs.

[rancid patio]

reminder, general is not the place to ask questions about products as we have #flow-general・🌊 #whisk-general・💭 and #jules-general・🦑 where your product specific questions can be asked. Thank you

[final granite]

Can I weight prompts In Whisk and Flow

It would Maybe a good idea to have a prompting topic here on this server?

[willow ridge]

yes, flowgpt and promptperfect are popular ai tools, i think

[echo marlin]

Yo guys

[tulip yacht]

What's a better tool to create animation of an illustration ensuring the character of the illustration is retained. I tried flow and whisk, they both give me whole another character and illustration style.

[echo marlin]

You wanna illustrate or you want to generate a character?

[wispy ember]

Is there anyone at google labs whom we can reach out to for feature input/requests?

[tulip yacht]

I want to animate my illustration.

[echo marlin]

Try out cling AI

[stone trout]

kling now collaborates with Higgsfield (Kazakhstan alga xD), so from commercial solutions it is SOTA

[tulip yacht]

The output I've seen on that is mostly 3Dish. Let me explore

[echo marlin]

Yeah and keep me posted

[tulip yacht]

Interesting

[simple shale]

Umm..... today's September 23rd, wheres my credits?

Also <@&1366831844502274180> can we kick @worthy wedge please, he keeps tagging

[hearty hamlet]

Question you can create any AI app like create an agent like a sales generator or a lead generator rather or no

[dense latch]

wdym

[terse pendant]

mixboard is crazy damn

but are there limits?

[outer wagon]

i'd ask the team directly in #mixboard・🧑‍🎨 🙂

[slow token]

hi. mixboard is too busy. i got 403 "https://labs.google.com/mixboard/projects"

[outer wagon]

hey, thanks for sharing! I'll fwd this to #mixboard・🧑‍🎨 where we're discussing with the team 🙂 see ya there!

[nova belfry]

mixboard seems pretty cool

[cobalt coral]

I think they put a typo it should say AUS-only 😛😘

[wheat ore]

anyone got any tips for making the clips flow more naturally together with FLOW/VEO? I also have access to other video editing software like premier but i am a novice with that too

[gentle needle]

mixboard looks cool ❤️

[gentle needle]

have you tried using the last frame of your videos and then using frame to video from there?

[wheat ore]

so.... how would i capture the last frame? can i do it inside flow or would i have to take it somewhere else and the grab that picture and then bring it back to flow?

oh, i think i see? there is a little slider inside of each clip in the scene builder with a +

[simple shale]

@outer wagon Its 7:36PM EST and I still didnt get my credits

[cerulean thorn]

Yo 👋 curious what you all think , for YouTube growth, do you edit your videos (Veo3 / Fern style, product ads, captions, cuts) or just post them raw? I’ve seen polished edits boost watch time a lot, but many creators still go raw.

If anyone here wants to try out those styles for their channel, feel free to DM me , always down to collab. 🚀

[torn zephyr]

Is there a way to get more options for veo 3? like top k and temp?

[rancid olive]

good morning

[bleak night]

Waring image

[deep echo]

Same

Can’t use mixboard

Is it legion lock?

[outer wagon]

#mixboard・🧑‍🎨 is in beta, U.S. only for now.

[thorn star]

Hello

[tulip yacht]

Yessir

[chrome lake]

Hello

[halcyon storm]

How can it be the tools are in limited countries

[hard sonnet]

The Mixboard is so cool, i really like it

[scenic light]

mixboard looks cool, its exactly the type of tool i would like to use for visual brainstorming which ive been using others apps for to collate my nano banana images into, hopefully it's rolled out to UK soon!

[cedar kestrel]

Anyone getting a 403 error trying to access Mixboard?

Oh, I just read above it's US only for now :/

[languid hollow]

Mixboard really looks cool, wish I could try and test the things out

[cobalt wraith]

Where can I access the official google flow model veo 3?

[crisp snow]

Uhmmm hmmm, trying to post intro, prolly just blew through some tokens reiterating thrice or more, or, maybe not? Do I do it here?

Tried mixboard just now, I like the juggling, though I wish it were using the surface of like a micro$oft table or something lol

[gray crypt]

SOME HELP ??

[kindred atlas]

Anyone here good with SEO

[flint olive]

Is there a schedule for the mixboard worldwide launch? I reeeally want to try it out

[spiral pier]

There is a connection problem. What should I do?

[gilded jewel]

Guys is it known when Google Opal will be available in Europe Germany?

[karmic skiff]

Hello <@&1366831844502274180> sorry for the tag but ig u should look into this...

[rancid patio]

thanks for flagging!!

[karmic skiff]

No Worries

[mild talon]

hellooo i just discovered Flow! cant wait to explore more

[outer wagon]

hi everyone! seeing a lot of Mixboard chatter here 🙂 Mixboard is currently available in US-only public beta - stay tuned as Mixboard expands. you can keep up-to-date by hanging out in the #mixboard・🧑‍🎨 channel or by snagging the newest Mixboard role on the Channels & Roles tab.

[outer wagon]

welcome! you can check out and share gens in #flow-videos・📹 for inspo 🙂

[mild talon]

hella good ideas there wow

[woeful moat]

Hi georgie, did you get a response on that?

[austere jungle]

Hey, does anyone know why all my projects and previous creations have all dissapeared from flow/veo 3?

[obsidian spade]

Is Google considering doing the same thing Perplexity did with Comet? Let Gemini control the entire browser?

[rough laurel]

I have all the essential skills of a blockchain developer, along with years of hands-on project experience.
I’d be happy to discuss this with anyone interested in development.

[nimble laurel]

yep

[woven sleet]

hi guys

i am using flow it was so good that i have made an movie

[obsidian spade]

That's great, I've tried Comet and it's crazy.

[brave crystal]

guys - why are we phasing out Veo 2 if Veo 3 can't do end frames, it can't do ingredients, and it can't do extend?

[brave crystal]

these are the most important features

[safe lily]

is the google dc bot official

[agile narwhal]

[woeful moat]

They showcased it in the Chrome AI updates video a few days ago AFAIK but I think it's not available yet

[woeful moat]

Bug: on editing already sent messages on AI Mode, the edited message gets sent automatically instead of editing the initial one and keeping it intact.

[fleet estuary]

hi

[tepid dagger]

holaa

[clear pawn]

hey

[real field]

hi

[neon wraith]

Apparently, I can't fine tune a model with my own data in google ai studio and the different prompt modes have also disappeared.

Are the google team planning to bring those features back or is there any alternative to google ai studio(other than vertex ai).

[terse atlas]

hey guys sup

[swift jolt]

Was looking for this information, thanks

[sage cradle]

cool

[rancid olive]

good morning

[prisma pasture]

Not sure this is the right place but google so

is there any resx or standard for dev setup? Like everytime I set up new project, Im missing basic things like setting up logging, metrics, Local DB, security compliance, Documentation. I want something like list of topics I should or optionally setup to be in par with industry standard.

I tried google and GPTs and its mostly miss something and GPT delve deep into specific topic or into the keyword provided instead of listing out things

[modest rampart]

Hey

[modest rampart]

What is it used for?

[stoic aspen]

dont download im hacked

[willow ridge]

Hi all

[mystic bolt]

no

[potent ibex]

Here are some steps you can take to ensure acount integrity moving forward https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/24160905919511-My-Discord-Account-was-Hacked-or-Compromised

(it seems to me you've regained account ownership already, but just remember to check-in!)

[stoic aspen]

i think my discord suth token is comprimised, so i never lost access to the account

[modest rampart]

Hey, anyone know why veo 3 is not working in flow?

[stoic aspen]

but thanks @potent ibex

[potent ibex]

np, stay safe out there - change your password to reset the token! :)

[haughty rampart]

is there a help channel?

or can i ask here, good morning btw

[willow ridge]

if possible, let me help you, what kinda issue did you face?

[haughty rampart]

hi i used veo3 once , but the interface is so changed and theres a bunch of new things that i dont understand i was trying to generate a video for my social service and i got images (i liked them but i need a video) is there a way i can get Gemini, Google,Veo or Flow cause atp idk what is what 😭 to make a video with those imageS? and which model should i use

this is what it generated

which one can generate me a video from images i attach

[willow ridge]

i think you should use Veo (google deepmind's video model) for generating videos, while Gemini is text/image focused and imagen/flow handle images

so veo is the right choice to turn your images into a video

[haughty rampart]

do you have a link directly to Veo cause im lost frfr

https://deepmind.google/models/veo/ is it this one?

Ight thank you so much Moti

[willow ridge]

you are welcome

[severe fern]

I bought veo 3 a few days ago from veo 3.ai website but I don't use it anymore. Now I see that veo 3 website is no more and it has now moved to gemini and I have to login with google account. But my mail is not gmail.com. What should I do now?

[surreal vine]

Hey👽🪬

[quartz leaf]

You can talk with gemini support and can mail them.

[severe fern]

how?

can you give me the gemini support mail?

[echo geyser]

Huh?!? It's working fine for me.

[modest rampart]

I am getting message please use Veo 2 fast

[echo geyser]

You'll get that message if Veo3 doesn't support a particular feature yet.

[noble tiger]

How can test google mixboard

[modest rampart]

Ohh thanks for explaining 😃

[outer wagon]

#mixboard・🧑‍🎨 is currently in beta, available in the U.S. only (at this time)

[tardy charm]

hi I am new on Whisk, can any one tell me why Whisk give a message "We do not allow the input of Minor...." and does not create Image

[left trail]

You can't have minor image or prompt with minor in it. It's under Google strict safety guidelines instant rejection on prompts or image like that.

[woeful moat]

hii

[spare latch]

hi all!

Got a quick question. Is it cheaper to Upgrade to AI pro with a 16% saving? Or just going for the Google AI pro with one free month? I already have a google drive account. And also is there any difference in the two? They list the same things...

[left trail]

Free 1 month, 11 months remaining cost $219

$199 annual plan =$16.66
Vs $19.99 monthly cost

[gusty sphinx]

The free trial for a month is huge, THANKS for letting us experiment with flow before committing to a subscription. Super rare in this space. 🔥🔥

[spare latch]

Yeah I did the math also, I just ask in case there was anything not included in these two packages.. Thanks..

[little wharf]

I can't seem to get access to the mixboard, any idea's why?

[left trail]

Only available for USA region atm.

[gusty sphinx]

lol what did i just watch

[wispy nymph]

Below is a comparative table based on my experience as a paid user of Google's AI services (Gemini) and OpenAI's (GPT).
https://gemini-vs-gpt.netlify.app/

[potent sphinx]

What sort of daily limit does mixboard have anyways I really like how it seems like such a simple thing but not having to make 15 gens yourself being able to just visually immerse yourself in ideas is pretty big.

Very easy to miss the point of this until you see that difference for sure

My favorite labs is learning about

It's really great at making a engaging thing on practically any topic and the nodes that make you think critically are really nice

[dry hazel]

Hey, when is mixboard coming to Canada? Getting a nice 404 error.

[left trail]

#mixboard・🧑‍🎨 You will get your answers in the correct channel by Google staff.

[dense latch]

emoji_3

[crystal zenith]

I dont know why but gemini is censoring the word "indian"

[arctic glacier]

Hello to everyone,

[rain pivot]

hey does anyone how to create an ai generated video in 4k?

I have been able to create good quality videos but I need 4k to upscale it and play in a big screeen

[dense latch]

what was the context of the chat

wasnt able to reproduce the issue

[graceful falcon]

can i get some free credits here?

[granite urchin]

Good people embrace innovations & skills in life, better people prepares the coming future, but best people are transformed within and live unselfish lives while connecting, and being compassion with others struggle. Let us be one of this!!!

[spring notch]

What can u do with AI pro for 3 months that I got for free, I made like 3 videos but then ran out of credits. Kind of a bad gift

[crystal zenith]

I asked it create an indian women seated on the chair image i provided it flag error , and when i asked about it , says it might be confused i am refering to native americans