general・🧺

[dawn hornet]

Compared to lets say a photograph or an original illustration

[grizzled sail]

You do, that argument is completely not based on reality at all, when you take a photo you don't even need to own the elements that are present in it lol.

[dawn hornet]

That depends, actually!

[grizzled sail]

If the image was copyrighted, you hold the copyright of the whole image and every individual element in that particular image

[dawn hornet]

You cannot take photos of everything you feel like, artistic works are still protected

[grizzled sail]

You can copyright a photo of the eiffel tower nobody comes and say you didnt create the eiffel tower its not yours

[dawn hornet]

It's ironic that you mention the eiffel tower because the night time lighting installed on it is still protected by copyright and (legally speaking) cannot be photographed by whoever feels like it

[grizzled sail]

Its not ironic, I know that

I never mentionned at night

[dawn hornet]

But even in this example the final composition is what has been granted the copyright

Not the individual lights

[grizzled sail]

No, you can't come cut out the eiffel tower of the image and use it on Its own

The photo is copyrighted. You can use it in a collage if done properly yeah, so coming back to my point which is It's exactly like regular works now.

[dawn hornet]

The key difference is who made the photograph

Someone took that photograph with artistic intent and execution

Someone owns the rights to that photograph

An AI has created elements for you that fall under the public domain

You can claim ownership on how you arranged said elements, but you cannot claim ownership of the elements themselves

[grizzled sail]

When you've been granted the Copyright, you are deemed by the law to be the owner of that work AND Its individual elements. Exactly like regular artistic work. They did NOT create a SEPARATE copyright law for the AI works. So when you are the copyright owner of your image, much like any other work be it photo or illustrations/paintings, Nobody can come cut out some part and use it on Its own. That is the only important part here, nobody can use individual parts like you said

[dawn hornet]

Though let's be real here, this sort of case would probably have to go through several instances of court before any final agreement is reached on if it's considered fair use or not

[grizzled sail]

Yeah but they didnt create a separate copyright law, so if they give you copyright for the ai image, the same rules apply

you cant just come and claim Its different

[dawn hornet]

If I AI generate a hat into another AI generated image then someone goes and cuts out the hat and reuses it there's nothing I can do

As I may own the overall composition of that hat on that man, but I do not own the generated hat

[grizzled sail]

What? can you explain exactly what you mean with this example

If I AI generate a hat into another ai generated image? You're talking about inpainting

[dawn hornet]

Your example earlier was inpainting elements onto another ai generated image to classify it as your own work

My entire argument here is that you still do not own the original image or it's inpainted contents, you still only own whatever the final outcome is

If I were to cut out any individual elements you generated or inpainted then the copyright owner of those individual elements cannot press charges

[grizzled sail]

It's not true at all, nobody can cut out parts of a COPYRIGHTED work and use it on Its own.

[dawn hornet]

As they're a computer

[grizzled sail]

That's completely wrong

If the image was copyrighted, you cant cut out parts of it and use it

[dawn hornet]

If the part is transformative enough, maybe, if the part is another ai generated image/segment then yes, I absolutely can

[grizzled sail]

• how do you know what I've inpainted or not unless i tell you?

This is like a fringe case it could never hold in real life

[dawn hornet]

You'd need to prove you authored it in court

Which, I agree, is what the entire case would fall apart on for both sides

[grizzled sail]

Yeah but theres many such fringe cases that can be made with some traditional works, that's why I dont think it makes AI any much different, WHEN it is already copyrighted

getting it copyrighted is whats different

[grizzled sail]

Sometimes I've gotten some prompts filtered and only changed unimportant wordings (like filler words etc) and retried the prompt and it worked

So the moderation filter works in mysterious ways, Its not always a blocked word or something

[mighty spindle]

Or "Afro-American".

[swift jolt]

Why does imagefx censor “anuunaki”?😂

[gilded urchin]

Finally getting access through one of my PARTNER sites. One of the 4 I am partnered with is giving me access to VEO. HA HA HA I dont need your access ANYMORE.

😝

[grizzled sail]

Yep

[dawn hornet]

That depends a lot on the dedication of the court and what your artwork is

If its lets say a digital illustration then they could demand you present source files

The challenge being that the prime audience for "AI art" is people incapable (or too lazy) of putting in manual work

󠄴

[grizzled sail]

I sell my ai images and videos, I do a lot of manual work. Honestly I think if I wanted to I could claim copyright in like 75% of them

[dawn hornet]

prime audience =/= everyone

[grizzled sail]

Yep just wanted to give my take

[dawn hornet]

im talking about who these tools are primarily advertised towards, people with little actual talent with a big promise of "you can also do art™️ now"

[grizzled sail]

I agree, a lot of people in the stock industry thought "nobody will ever buy those ai images" turns out, a loooot do. They don't care if Its ai (it's labelled), they just care if it looks good or not

I think I spent more time searching/finetuning my workflow with so many ai tools to get the best quality than actually generating and editing the images. It's a crazy rabbit hole if you really want to get the best out of them

[dawn hornet]

The interesting part of this (to me) is going to be where google&co get their training data in the future

We've already had studies of models worsening over time when more previously ai generated content is fed in

[grizzled sail]

Hahaha, lifetime deal definitely worth it then. I can relate yeah, Its similar to the way some people spend more time modding games than actually playing them

[dawn hornet]

Training data as a whole is going to become a lot more interesting with meta spectacularly admitting to pirating 80 terabytes worth of books

We might finally get a court decision on if companies are allowed to use whatever content they deem fit for model training or not

[grizzled sail]

Synthetic data, last time I heard, is actually making the models much better. I think all the latest LLM reasoning models are trained a lot on synthetic data.
Also, FireFly (image and video gen model) has been trained on AI images and videos, too. They said it made their model better. (ie better than not including them)

[dawn hornet]

I've read other sources that came to the conclusion that synthetic data just leads to more model biases

You're essentially just enhancing preexisting model biases by feeding them back in through your training process

The rationale is "we're big enough nothing's going to happen".

[grizzled sail]

I've read it too, but I look at what's already shipped, I prefer that over theories. All the new best models have been trained on synthetic data (for LLM's) at least the big players, deepseek, chatgpt...
And for images and videos, there's FireFly by Adobe

[solemn lotus]

They may ban our protests but they haven't banned walking with signs on sticks in public.

[proven orchid]

: )

[bold matrix]

Are you not allowed to use real subjects in wisk

[solemn lotus]

ImageFX up for me

[solemn lotus]

What do you mean by real?

[fervent bloom]

theres a blank screen in veo

@solemn lotus

It has no problem creating the image part tho, thats working but not the video process\

[solemn lotus]

Oh maybe they're fixing the issues the new layout brought.

[fervent bloom]

i hoping so

cause this aint supposed to happen

[solemn lotus]

Breaking is why they're still Lab experiments.

[fervent bloom]

and i heard veo is talking about debuting in youtube soon

[main widget]

hey everyone, I'm new

[dry bronze]

Hi, welcome! What labs tools are you playing around with?

[main widget]

well I stumbled upon google whisk on accident

I didn't even know it was a thing

it's so cute and fun!

I'll have to read server rules to know what we are and are not allowed to talk about 😆

[dry bronze]

great to hear! I've been working on that tool

if you haven't already, you can join #whisk-general・💭 and #whisk-gallery・🖼

[main widget]

can you tell me more about this community? I really am so surprised

[ivory hornet]

we mostly just share creations that’s all

[main widget]

I wish I found this all sooner lol

[main widget]

oh yay! I haven't found a place to connect for that

most of my friends don't understand AI

[main widget]

haha this gallery is fun

yay so what do you guys all experiment with?

[ivory hornet]

#todays-special・🥣 is kind of like mini contests

but mostly showcases

[main widget]

cute stuff lol

[ivory hornet]

#perpetual-stew・🫕 is where you add on to the previous image

[main widget]

I'll have to explore more of these tools

[ivory hornet]

lets say an otter image

i add a snail to it

and then the next person could add some sort of forest setting to it and so on

[main widget]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

so do you guys only talk about google things?

[ivory hornet]

kinda yeah

just ai and stuff people talk abt here

[main widget]

I play with multiple ai stuffs

[dry bronze]

Primarily focused on the Labs fx suite of tools here
https://labs.google/fx/

[ivory hornet]

I saw that vomit reaction

you aint slick

[main widget]

ty this is so cool

how did I miss this 😭

[ivory hornet]

they also have a reddit page and a twitter page too

[main widget]

wow

the music generation!

I have so much to play with 😭 why isn't this easy to find?

[whole hawk]

@dry bronze Is Gemini advanced raise labs limits too or just Gemini?

[fervent bloom]

VEO STILL BLACKSCREENS WITH BORDERS

[solemn lotus]

Paul Reveo rides out to spread word.

[half raft]

I am new here what do i need to do. I am willing to learn. T for thanks

[solemn lotus]

So this is a public sharing and discussion discord.

Share whisk creations in #whisk-gallery・🖼 talk about it in #whisk-general・💭 report bugs in #1319422603001200731

Same basic set up for videofx. If you don't have access, they're working on it. Stayed tuned. You can request a prompt in #flow-tips-n-tricks・✏️ and someone might volunteer to donate some of their daily allotment to make yours.

At the bottom there's the other tools, most active being #imagefx・📷

If you're community minded, you can submit your output for #todays-special・🥣 , new topic weekdays, or chain a new image along to the #perpetual-stew・🫕

Then you have this channel and #off-topic・🐢 to chat. #1238621511401734254 if you have an idea for any of the experimental tools or this discord.

Check the welcome and Info channels for more.

[whole hawk]

i will copy this if someone ask. 😄

[spring notch]

What does this button do

Edit image

[solemn lotus]

Set your aspect ratio to Square.

It's basically inpainting, letting you select parts of the image to repronpt to edit.

Over the holidays it stopped working for all the other ratios but square.

[grizzled sail]

Labs team: It seems like the partnership with platforms like Freepik mean VEO2 will most likely not be free to use (or maybe a few free gens a day) which is understandable. I hope you do include a paid unlimited tier, like other AI video platforms, for those of us who need it for commercial use.

[spring notch]

Freepik it’s scam doesn’t generate anything so that people buy it, and then when they buy it it’s 24 hours slow

[spring notch]

You mean once people realise freepik is a scam they won’t buy it again

I think it’s wrong asking people to throw away money for 24 hour wait for 5 second video, like people were making thousands of videos for free

I think I’m good, I don’t want people to buy it and scam themselves though

[grizzled sail]

I don't think he was talking about Freepik, but the AI /vid AI industry in general

Freepik credit system is really bad, and they scam their contributors also. Worse earnings in the stock industry

[ivory hornet]

Post it in #1238621511401734254

mhm

wdym?

no need to apologise

idk

[stray lake]

I cant create images on ImageFX

[stray lake]

nvm

[mighty flower]

For my YT channel I'd like to do a video comparison between all video AI generation tools, how can I access veo 2? already in the waitlist.

[swift jolt]

Heads up!

I got hacked, careful out there and do not click any links from me. I'm moving up to new account!

[mighty spindle]

Anyone using the function calling? I need some feedback. I have developed a non-schematic method that do not require v1beta libraries at all and works for both SDK and legacy.

G senior engineers took a lot of hard effort into it, let's hope it's been helpful in use cases.

[dawn hornet]

I've never worked with their official SDKs but function calling wasn't that hard to use with the rest api (assuming you're talking about generativelanguage)

[mighty spindle]

Thanks. Can I confirm with you, did you declare the Function Schemas? Is there a format you need to follow?

Yes, I am refering to generativeai, not the SDK.

[dawn hornet]

Check out the rest reference, their documentation tells you which fields you need to set

including some examples iirc

[mighty spindle]

Ok, you are not using the python script right?

[dawn hornet]

I used javascript but the json format is the same for all languages

[mighty spindle]

Cus for python they remove the entire Doc, now is only genai, no more generativeai Doc, for python. I dont use REST though

[mighty spindle]

May I ask, what kind of function your Gemini is calling? I dont need to know exact API, is it Boolean or str or what?

[dawn hornet]

I'll see if I can dig up the code I used, hold on

[mighty spindle]

I find the Tool function calling weird tbh, i am quite curious how well it actually adapt to external api, and user need to pip install google.ai.generativelanguage additional v1beta content jsut to call the function declaration..

[dawn hornet]

"functionDeclarations": [
            {
              "name": "tool_name",
              "description": "Description of what this function/tool does",
              "parameters": {
                "type": "OBJECT",
                "properties": {
                  "prompt": {
                    "type": "STRING",
                    "description": "A description of what the argument should be"
                  }
                },
                "required": [
                  "prompt",
                  "images"
                ]
              }
            }
          ]
        }```

[mighty spindle]

yeah, I know, theres this:

model = genai.GenerativeModel(
  model_name="gemini-2.0-pro-exp-02-05",
  generation_config=generation_config,
  tools = [
    genai.protos.Tool(
      function_declarations = [
        genai.protos.FunctionDeclaration(
          name = "getWeather",
          description = "gets the weather for a requested city",
          parameters = content.Schema(
            type = content.Type.OBJECT,
            properties = {
              "city": content.Schema(
                type = content.Type.STRING,
              ),
            },
          ),
        ),
      ],
    ),
  ],
  tool_config={'function_calling_config':'ANY'},
)

[dawn hornet]

When the model decides to call a tool you'll get a function call response instead of a text generation response from the API, you can then evaluate whatever you want using the arguments or external apis, then send back whatever data you want the model to process as a function resolve

[mighty spindle]

Is yours a Bool or Str call?

i just find it weird they probably got dev team using IDE VS to create class and lib just for this function calling, and to me it looks a little intimidating for a simple boolean task..

I just find it wierd and just got to bring it up though...

[dawn hornet]

Have you tried asking in the google developers discord server?

[mighty spindle]

i still waiting for their invite

lol it is always like on the next rolling basis, which is a few month

Have you noticed, the dev doing the Github are handing over the migrating to different developers?

[dawn hornet]

https://discord.com/invite/google-dev-community

[mighty spindle]

there're a lot of hiccups going on, especially Imagen confusion and all...

[mighty spindle]

Thanks pal 👍

[waxen storm]

Im curious to know your use case, Im building an Ai app and about to get Veo on the API, send me a DM bro

[mighty spindle]

Mind if I ask, how well does Function Call improve your AI model operation? From score of 1 to 5?

Well, I aint sure if you'd read this, but I'm just genuinely curious

[dawn hornet]

Depends on what I'm doing

[mighty spindle]

A score for it in general, anyways

[dawn hornet]

If I'm working with external data or building assistant-like systems then it's an absolute necessity

[grizzled sail]

guys what's up with the youtube veo version where they say it can't generate realistic people?

Anyone got around that? Im not trying to generate known people, just people in general like an "a businessman" its blocking it

[swift jolt]

is youtube only for us too?

[untold silo]

@outer wagon i have been on the waitlist for 5 months now, theres been people that got it less than a month, im working on a project with some guys, planning to make something on youtube and entertain people, we are trying other ai for audio, speech, and more, and theres no other text to video like veo 2, we are really trying to try any other ai but they are really bad with motion and have a lot of morphing, and would really grateful if i could have access to veo, so we can continue our project, we have some ideas in mind, and to perform it we really need good ai

[bleak forum]

Same here, im just gonna wait until the give me access or release it to the public

[grizzled sail]

I'm very eager for the release also...

[sour raptor]

Bro why this damn bot is so sensitive smh so I can make a photo of a african father carrying is baby? What's the trigger word? Smh 😤 this is crazy man

Also when you type on mobile it just meas up the words or make you type weird

Lol

I can type without looking at my keyboard

So the design never bother me

[rain warren]

without functions, it would difficult to create decent agentic flows

[proven orchid]

Google stock today.... 😭

[ivory hornet]

it’s absolutely plummeting

i just searched it up

[sick belfry]

If google wants stock to go up better give me early access 😡

[main widget]

I'd love to be apart of the release as well

[main widget]

I'm not huge on current news...may I ask what happened?

[proven orchid]

i think

there are a new ai search broswer

[ivory hornet]

not sure

[main widget]

ty for the update

[grizzled sail]

Zoom out, It's still higher than 2-3 months ago. Nothing concering as of now

[swift jolt]

what's with the pricing of veo2 at fal ai

it's ridiculous

[waxen storm]

It doesnt allow creating anyone who is not an adult

[waxen storm]

Acording to Freepik CEO, Veo 2 is expensive Fal pribably wants to make a profit, but Freepik is making almost no return on Veo 2

[swift jolt]

haven't seen the price of freepik

[waxen storm]

You mind sharing more about your project?

[swift jolt]

i wish a 100$ unlimited subscription of veo2 like other ai's have when it's released

[waxen storm]

Freepik Veo 2 price is about half or a little less than Fal, unfortunatelly an Unlimited Veo 2 subscription is unlikely

[swift jolt]

i do videos daily, almost i can;t afford to pay 1000$ on it, so i probably won't use it

[waxen storm]

Alibaba is set to drop an Open Source model called Wanx (yeah thats the name) which rivals Veo 2, and its looking to be released this next week, also most likely cheaper

[swift jolt]

Wanx? xD

[waxen storm]

I know lol

[swift jolt]

only rival i see to veo2 currently is ray2

[waxen storm]

everyone talking about the name

[swift jolt]

which i can use i mean

[waxen storm]

right, Meta has VideoJam which is just as good, released a few weeks ago. But checkout wanx

[ivory hornet]

someone did a comparison of veo2 and ray2 in #flow-general・🌊

[swift jolt]

and video jam is not accessible right?

[waxen storm]

not yet!

[swift jolt]

ive seen a more on youtube, it's the closest to veo2

ray2 is great but it's servers are so not great xD in que forever sometimes

[waxen storm]

Yeah I get that too, its unlimited but you still have to wait quite often

[swift jolt]

For a week or so

it was so great, i waited 2 mins 3 max for a video gen

but good times end xD

isn't wanx available in here? https://chat.qwenlm.ai/

i tried it and it isn't that great if it's this

[untold silo]

We are planning to make two channels on YouTube, one for like a kind of "Jericho Mencke" humor, im not sure of everyone know that YouTuber, and then the second channel is gonna be more like analog horror/mandela catalogue style, veo 2 could accelerate the procces of the videos, because not everyone has time to do everything in every set, i hope you understand why i need veo 2, (by the way we have no idea how we are gonna name the channels)

[untold silo]

I mean, not analogue horror videos, its xploshi like videos we are trying to do

[untold silo]

Like seriously im not sure how they select people to give them access, idk if its about how much they followers have, or how much does he knows information about ai

Or maybe its random like seriously im not sure

[swift jolt]

h

[waxen storm]

Your ideas are pretty cool, for access I’ve heard that it was mainly a few people selected at the beginning, since they only need testing, they probably wont open it to more people, aside for very few every couple of days

Or if you are a company like Freepik and Fal ai, though Im still waiting for my company to get access (we are already in communication)

[untold silo]

We are just a couple of guys, heading just to entertain people, idk, if we do get access it will be Much better

[lyric lake]

Hi people, how do you star creation images please?

[untold silo]

I tried to search a way to tell them that, i would totally leave feedback to them, i tried leaving a "feedback" just to tell them how i would support this tool, but no answer

[quick bridge]

hi

[untold silo]

Yeah i understand, i just didnt know the existence of google labs discord on that time

[bleak hare]

I couldnt even tell you how i got in this discord there was a link somewhere somehow

probably gemini?

like the first run

or something like that

well i didnt make anything with gemini its pretty bad

havent tried the new ones but the old ones were like really really bad

which is crazy because google is like a data company

[iron swan]

fellas, is veo2 available on freepik?

ah nevermind

paid subscribers

They don't even offer one free trial?

they can keep it

no free trial, not interested

which one?

"fal"? lemme google it

so, odd, it's releasing everywhere but not on google itself

thanx for the suggestion, I'll try

uuugh fal requires github

aaaaaand this is why I hate github

I dont even UNDERSTAND what I'm supposed to do now

nvm no free trial..... waste of time ugh

are we quite sure there's a site offering a free trial

they used to say that about image generation and chatbots as well, and yet, I've generated millions of stuff for free

youtube shorts has it?

well, feel free to believe it then, I'll wait just like I always did until thousands of free ais pop out

I mean, they wanted me to pay for chatgpt and yet

your choice

lower quality :/

fine, let's try the youtube one, how? do I just log in

ugh

fine, I'll be back in a few weeks or so, when it'll be available somewhere...

ugh losing my patience, can't even make youtube shorts

[nocturne spear]

freepik allows you to do one free generation

in veo 2

[untold silo]

Its quite confusing, i tried on pc and mobile, its says i have 2 free generations but then just makes me pay, like it takes me to a whole different web just to pay for freepik

[nocturne spear]

well it let me do one, idk, maybe there was a limit on how many free gens they gave out

[untold silo]

I've heard that only the first 10 thousand could try it for free idk

[grizzled sail]

Ive been creating so many videos in the youtube app, its awesome

[grizzled sail]

I tried the freepik one it loaded for more than a day and didnt work 😂

When it comes out on their own platform, they really need to make an "unlimited plan" like their competitors, the price we are getting in the different platforms is ridiculous and close to nobody will ever pay that much for this

[iron swan]

Not working.... can't even make shorts

[iron swan]

Yeah? Then can you explain me how to use it?

[grizzled sail]

Click on the plus button on the bottom then on the lower left part where there's your gallery and at the top you should see a button with sparkels and "create"

[iron swan]

Still no ai

[grizzled sail]

Are you located in the US?

[iron swan]

I have a vpn

[grizzled sail]

Probably they are blocking VPN

[iron swan]

Wow, f+++ them then

[grizzled sail]

Dont say that! You need to be angry at the EU regulators and other countries 😂

It's already awesome we're getting video gens for free

[rain warren]

💀

[iron swan]

we're not

also is youtube shorts even accessible on pc?

[meager spire]

Lol I've been using Fal and I believe they have a bug on their end.

[untold silo]

There is no other way to use veo 2 for free other than using the official website

Or am i wrong

[iron swan]

Are you paying?

It appears youtube shorts is only on mobile phone?

[meager spire]

@iron swan not sure haven't been charged yet unless it's a monthly thing. I was just using it for fun. Plus they have image to video there too

[iron swan]

Uhu??? Free on Fal??

Pretty sure it immediately asked my credit card

[meager spire]

@iron swan it didn't ask if I ran out or anything. I remember setting up a card months ago. But never seen any charges afterwards. Or at least with veo

[iron swan]

Yeah pretty sure you're being charged buddy

[meager spire]

I look each time. So I'll wait till march. I honestly don't care. Small money to me. I paid much more buying gadgets.

[rain warren]

wish google just extended access so we didn't have to jump through hoops to use it

i mean we're talking about GOOGLE here, like cmon lol

[grizzled sail]

Yeah I really want to have the full access and not just the youtube version, I can't wait to try txt2video particularly. But we have to admit It's still very nice to be able to generate for free with the youtube app

[iron swan]

Wait youtube doesnt have text to video?

[grizzled sail]

txt2img2vid

[grizzled sail]

be aware, the prices are quite insane, on fal for 5sec of vid it costs 1.25$, per vid. Could add up quite fast if you're testing different things

[iron swan]

Oh. Now I am not interested

[grizzled sail]

Its still very good. been doing some great stuff. also free is free 👍

[meager spire]

I'm aware now. I already have access. I just wanted to mainly test img2video

[iron swan]

Dude is in denial

[grizzled sail]

? 😂

[iron swan]

This preying on people with poor impulse control is why I will never pay. Using mobile games and casino tactics is gross

[grizzled sail]

??????

😂

It's literally free video gens, you need to take a deep breath and think before writing

[meager spire]

Lmao

Yall Crack me up in here

[grizzled sail]

Dude is a character 😂

[meager spire]

But yeah the image 2 video by veo has potential

Just takes like 3 minutes which is eh

[grizzled sail]

I feel like the txt2video is much better though, what do you think

[meager spire]

Nah img2video is always goat

I do like text don't get me wrong

[grizzled sail]

Its good for character consistency etc, but i mean the quality and the movement of the videos is always better in txt2video it seems like

because it can just starts how it wants

[meager spire]

Just majority screams for img2video

[iron swan]

Get back to me next month

[grizzled sail]

Even if they change it, I was still able to benefit a lot from the free gens so why should I be upset

[iron swan]

For me, reference to video is by far the best, every model should offer it

[meager spire]

Eventually Google will

They always a step forward

[iron swan]

I'm trying to tell you that you are being charged right now. But if you choose to ignore it, go on....

Pricing is right there on the site itself

[grizzled sail]

You have reading comprehension issues, I'm talking about the youtube one....

It's literally free

[meager spire]

That's me waiting to charge my phone on 15%

[iron swan]

Oh? Then I misinterpreted. You told me you had free access on that Fal thing

[grizzled sail]

No that was you talking with Random...

[ivory hornet]

heh

[iron swan]

Aah

[grizzled sail]

I told him the price for Fal so I'm aware Its paid

[meager spire]

Yeah I'm aware of the consequences

[fluid quiver]

?

[cinder wharf]

Need access to VEO 2 please! [e-mail]

[grizzled sail]

Yes because txt2img2vid when you choose the image then it's basically img2vid. But yeah that's why I hope we get some native access on google labs, those platforms prices are ridiculous

[swift jolt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1332908515097968640/1343307101631414312/image0.gif?ex=67bccbba&is=67bb7a3a&hm=b6679684c19c446862c8b8bb9f3673f2e0921333925e484acec18d549d46ccb0&

[modest gate]

Cual es el topico del día?

[swift jolt]

nicki minaj is cussing fans out on station head. we didn’t support her latest song.

[rain warren]

i mean there's no way ya'll would consider that cussing out... right?

[swift jolt]

?

[rain warren]

?

[swift jolt]

she does this everyday on stationhead.

she sends messages to us about her upcoming music.

[rain warren]

how's that cussing out

was basically my q

[swift jolt]

because sometimes she does go on ranting about other female rappers.

[rain warren]

exactly lmao

was literally my whole point

[swift jolt]

anyways.

https://media.tenor.com/iKu9gPHX55sAAAAM/nicki-minaj-nicki.gif

[crystal glacier]

Any one here know about ai integration?

[rain warren]

yes

[vital trout]

are there any sites that let you use veo 2 for 100% free?

[vital trout]

ai integration into what

[main widget]

I'm still on waitlist for VEO 2 😦

[grizzled sail]

idk if i believe that given the output quality is 720p, let's say the model has twice as much parameters as sora, sora has 1080p 10 seconds (longer) and we can have unlimited outputs. I'm willing to pay for unlimited no problem, I'll just never pay that much PER video given the randomness

True, if it follows LLM's tracks the price should go down pretty quick

[vital trout]

ive been on the waitlist for a few months

[untold silo]

5 months here, but im just gonna wait

[vital trout]

thats a long time

i think ive been on the waitlist since december

[untold silo]

Been since the first veo released

And i didnt get any single email from Google labs since then

[vital trout]

I got one email from google labs i thought it was for veo 2 but it really was just telling me that im on the waitlist for jules

(didnt get jules access)

[solemn lotus]

What are you expecting an email supposed to say that you don't already know?

[vital trout]

Can you rephrase that?

bro writing an essay
-# /j

[solemn lotus]

Well, I've often seen the "it's been five months and I have t even got am email" sentiment around pretty regularly. I'm not sure what people want it to say

"You weren't randomly selected this round. Wait and see for developments in the future. " Is there anything else ?

[vital trout]

Ok

what does the red role mean

[solemn lotus]

UXR.

[vital trout]

Ok

[swift jolt]

Hello 👋

[sick belfry]

Bot

Gogo and SK are bots

[sick belfry]

So after the public release of veo2 the ones with early access still get to generate for free?

[spice pulsar]

seems like it

[rain warren]

yes they're AI bots based on flash

pretty good isn't it?

[meager jetty]

damn

[rain warren]

benchmark results for Claude didn't really impress me tbh

there's way too many tradeoffs compared to other models

more like the cat's litter

ok maybe it's not THAT bad but still, it doesn't seem to be groundbreaking by any means

it's just anthropic doing their best to not get left behind

[sick belfry]

Am I the only one who thinks LLMs are nothing but a pattern recognition machine

And there is no AGI

[solemn lotus]

Oh the publicly available stuff is so lobotomized as to be gimmicks. I do think we are close to reasoning machines but our current shortcutting isn't the path.

Statistical regularities are dull to me. I'm here for the irregularities.

[sick belfry]

After all these years AI still can’t differentiate between right and wrong. Gets alot of facts wrong

I believe it will never be able to do that unless merged with humans

Achieving Consciousness is the biggest hurdle for AGI

[solemn lotus]

Humans struggle with differentiating between eight and wrong and get a lot of facts wrong.

[sick belfry]

Not as much as AI

[solemn lotus]

Money is so 20th century. Power is where it's at.

[rain warren]

comes down to determining how we will end up defining "AGI"

you can even say it already exists tbh, maybe agentic flows is the key to AGI we just haven't figured it out yet

[sick belfry]

I just think without consciousness there is no agi. LLMs have hit a plateau

And training on more synthetic data won’t give rise to consciousness

[solemn lotus]

It's all tied up in monkey doodles. Let me talk to you for 40 minutes straight about a thing I do not understand but think I do.

I have gone to a lot of unfortunate gatherings where someone brings a cryptobro along.

Yeah, it does test the patience.

Same way that the best thing we ever got out of distributed computer processing for SETI and medical research was a bunch of research papers on the process of distributed computing.

I just meant that NVIDIA has no less incentive to roll out exponentially better tech when they can keep manufacturing the current stuff for the same profit margins.

Google's TPU is super interesting to me.

[weary cave]

Veo 2 X Flashing Particles in every Gen

[tardy knot]

hola comunidad, recien empece con google labs en creacion de imagenes y me volvio loco, alguno quiere hablar sobre el tema?

[untold silo]

I used to use kaiber, using múltiple accounts for free credits, but they patched it

[swift jolt]

This stuff is always so cool

[untold silo]

Never seen the price though, but im not paying for the same ai's that i even consider it trash

I mean they are good but a lot of them have morphing or that type of stuff, extra limbs, you know

They are really good with quality, but i just prefer motion than quality

Yeah, we just need to wait, or use another ai

Does it have veo?

Yeah

As i've seen, veo isnt in kaiber, yet.

[untold silo]

Some people say is the king with image to video right now, obviously with his lastest model Ray 2, which you need to pay to use it

Yeah

[waxen storm]

The Wan video opensource model is out for those interested 🙂

[unreal bobcat]

Is Veo broken right now? It is for me

The percentage goes up and as it nears completion, the 4 colored boxes disappear one by one.

[untold silo]

Wan? No idea about that video model

[waxen storm]

as good as Veo 2 but opensource, hugginface to download the weights or fal ai to run inference

[untold silo]

great! lemme try it out

wow its really busy right now

i cant use it

[waxen storm]

where are you trying to use it? fal ai is working fine, 6 min per generation

[untold silo]

do you need to pay?

on fal ai?

[untold silo]

Warning: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'task_id' appears everytime when i try to generate a video in wan 2.1

[last raven]

#generate

[outer wagon]

happening now: sign ups for limited VideoFX seats are now available for U.S. based members who are 18 years or older.

check out the announcement for the sign up form!
#flow-announcements・📣 message

[minor zephyr]

does anyone know if they're going to include image to video in this yet?

[grizzled sail]

Yes also there's probably a lot of concerns with safety with image uploads etc. that's why it's clever to have a txt2img2vid meanwhile

But image-fx prompt following is insane compared to other models so with the right prompt it shouldn't be too hard to come close to what would be an external image input

Yes, true. It's coming for sure

[hexed fiber]

wild times

[obtuse trellis]

me right after submitting my form

[nimble falcon]

[weary cave]

Cheater

@nimble falcon did you get access?

[nimble falcon]

Fal ai

[weary cave]

Ok

[rain warren]

same lol

[leaden needle]

https://grow.google/career-dreamer/home/explore

Oh wow, the Google Career tool is also pretty awesome, has anyone else done it?

[untold silo]

its literally impossible to use wan 2.1 at this moments

[crisp ether]

yeah just need to wait for the hype to go down

[rain warren]

is it good

[untold silo]

I've seen videos of it and its pretty impressive

[ashen sleet]

i want to ask I have AI generated ya know product with the background

and i want to replaecec the product is it availble here/

[tiny sundial]

Did they kill off the gentype? lol

[meager laurel]

Everyone, Check your Video FX page using the Google account you used to submit the form. 👀

[nimble falcon]

Definitely no bias or anti AI going on... https://petapixel.com/2025/02/25/google-will-charge-1800-an-hour-to-create-ai-slop-video-generator-veo-2/

[nimble falcon]

I got it

[grizzled sail]

Congrats!!!! ME TOO

Thank you Google Labs Team

Can't wait to share my creations with the community

[nimble falcon]

Thanks Google team ❤️❤️

[plush raven]

Thanks, Google Team!!

[mighty island]

@raw bison Please come in dm

[fluid quiver]

Thanks, Google Team 🫡

[obtuse trellis]

This is incredible!! I'm in 🙏 thank you so much Google

[inner saddle]

just checked and genereating my first clips on Veo 2! thanks Labs Team 🙏

[hollow copper]

Hi , where can I apply for Google Labs access ?

[ivory hornet]

as in?

[hollow copper]

I am from United Kingdom. Friend told me that Google Labs accesss ( ai video exactly ) is being given away right now on Discord here.

[ivory hornet]

ah too late

they already closed it

[hollow copper]

Bro I am trying to access it since months 😭

[ivory hornet]

check #flow-announcements・📣

[meager laurel]

Yeah you’re kinda late on that ..

[hollow copper]

Does actually VIDEOFX operate on image2video or is it only text2video ( for now ) ?

[meager laurel]

It do text to video, and text to image to video

It doesn’t do image to video for now

[hollow copper]

Thank you

I'll try to grab it another time 🥹 😢

[meager laurel]

Well for now you’re free to stay and look out for any announcements

[twin edge]

veo2 is so goodd

[swift jolt]

Just got banned from the Pixel Superfans server 💀

[swift jolt]

the queen has arrived. 🧚‍♀️

💅

[weary cave]

Bro Veo 2 doesn’t work at all 😭

When it generates its just blank and I can’t press it

[swift jolt]

https://media.tenor.com/ygc-xDHvRlsAAAAM/nicki-minaj-nicki-minaj-laughing.gif

[swift jolt]

https://tenor.com/bCUvC.gif

[obtuse trellis]

I gotta say, one thing that I think could be better is the UI for selecting the download -- i always feel like I'm going to accidentally click delete bc the playback bar shifts down too quick (re: veo2)

[bright pendant]

I second this

[stuck ferry]

I third this

There's also something with the downloads in the library which I'm not sure is intended. The download button pulls whatever it currently on the screen. If you don't click the image, it does not download the full resolution version of the image. I would prefer it does this all the time, or better yet, if I could select multiple images to download

[whole hawk]

those courses are any good or just vaste of money?

[solemn lotus]

Start a #1238621511401734254 thread so Google will see it and it doesn't get lost

[fluid quiver]

does anybody else gets this when trying : text to image to video ?

p.s text to video option works .... but the other doesnt

[meager laurel]

its very hit and miss sometimes, have u tried rephrase your prompt

[fluid quiver]

yes i even tried only the random prompts they give it themselves when pressing" im feeling lucky"

but for some reason text to image to video stopped working in my case ...

[meager laurel]

oh

clear your browser cache,

or try open new tab

cuz i think i had your problem too

[fluid quiver]

i tried on other clean browse but its the same

text to video works but text to image to video doesnt

strange ...

[meager laurel]

wwhats the prompt?

let me give it a try

[fluid quiver]

In the center of a lush green meadow, a grand circus tent painted in alternating stripes of ruby red and creamy beige rises symmetrically against a backdrop of rolling hills and a warm, glowing sunset. Surrounding the tent, vibrant caravans in jewel tones—emerald green, sapphire blue, and golden yellow—are parked in perfect alignment, their wooden sides adorned with ornate hand-painted patterns. The ringmaster, a tall figure in a midnight-blue tailcoat with gold embroidery, stands at the tent’s arched entrance holding a brass-tipped cane. Inside the tent, acrobats in matching sequined leotards are frozen mid-flip, caught in perfect motion under the spotlight’s dramatic glow. Shot with a 50mm anamorphic lens on Kodak Vision3 500T film, the rich textures of the performers’ costumes, the faded paint on the caravans, and the gentle dappled shadows of the wildflowers add a lush, cinematic depth. The composition’s symmetry and balance evoke a sense of nostalgic grandeur.

its the random one it generated by itself ....

explained the story above

[meager laurel]

weird

[fluid quiver]

it seems it just me

🤦‍♂️

[meager laurel]

log out and login?

[fluid quiver]

yes... all the package

[meager laurel]

yeah you might need to bring this up in #1319424187730755636

[nimble falcon]

I wish we had an app 😔

I have to be on PC on Firefox to use it

[nimble falcon]

How I tried

[meager laurel]

I have it on my iPhone

[obtuse trellis]

Done. Thanks! For reference: https://discord.com/channels/1172568727942860810/1344511361408827433

[sick belfry]

Didnt know they had an app for it

[meager laurel]

It’s not really an actual app,I just “add to Home Screen”

It’s like shortcut

[zenith perch]

what do I need to do to get on the early access? does being a googler change much?

[rain warren]

YOOOOOOOOO

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

if you signed up for veo 2 early access form through discord, check to see if ur approved yet!!

[solemn lotus]

Firefox keeps the videos and chrome doesn't for me. That seems odd but here we are.

[real trellis]

Finally I just checked mine

I got approved 😂

Thanks Google team 🙏

[real trellis]

I can’t generate anything

It’s not working for me

[real trellis]

Same here

[weary cave]

Sad

[swift jolt]

working for me

maybe use it on ur pc

[rain warren]

okay so i've come to a conclusion:

i suck at writing veo2 prompts

yeah it works for me too

[dry robin]

So...

There's that new Android Safety core app

And everyone is stressing about it

How do I convince people otherwise

[ivory hornet]

google made it

[dry robin]

I do realize that, but they are still calling it malware or a spyware
Even though a 1 minute Google search says otherwise

[ivory hornet]

hmm

[ivory hornet]

show them this https://security.googleblog.com/2024/10/5-new-protections-on-google-messages.html

[grizzled robin]

Anyone come across issues where text to image to video doesn’t work? Every time I enter a prompt it tells me it couldn’t create what I asked for. I know it’s not a filtering thing since it won’t even let me create anything. Text to video works fine though.

[fluid quiver]

yes, since yesterday, to me and others... check the #1344480368471965789

[fluid quiver]

yes i did, thank you ...

[visual prawn]

<@&1173646484311384114> Did yall remove the percentage dissapearing thingy?

On VideoFX

[red mist]

Does anyone else have their mobile iOS Safari crash while scrolling the library on ImageFX?

The Veo2 site makes it crash too lmao

[swift jolt]

https://gifdb.com/images/high/latto-with-eyeglasses-on-qe8ve9ra010376u3.gif

https://media.tenor.com/BHwcEC-VopcAAAAM/acidbleeder-nicki-minaj-laugh.gif

[red mist]

Very impressive nails on that beautiful young woman lmao

[swift jolt]

💅

do you listen to latto? she’s a rapper

[red mist]

I'll check her out on Spotify. Does she have any Kendrick Lamar collabs? He's my favorite.

[swift jolt]

you should!! and i don’t think so. i’m not a fan of kendrick lamar like that.

[swift jolt]

https://youtu.be/BipTVzsJMt0?si=qJGeSBQ5EQFczZyl

[swift jolt]

another good one. https://youtu.be/sekgz68Lewo?si=8YguhAKgEMS7PgjI

[steady hazel]

hello team I have an idea about YouTube. Can we discuss the idea?

[swift jolt]

https://youtu.be/_P2aM5j46Xs?si=8JGuZQSfVS4X0882

[swift jolt]

@outer wagon I have some questions I waana know from you

if you don't mind

[red mist]

Man, if anything Google is underselling how amazing Imagen 3 is.

No other model can do stuff like this.

[next vector]

of course this happened the one day i wasnt on here haha

[red mist]

I can't believe I haven't been given access to VideoFX just because I didn't apply and Google has no idea who I am

[visual prawn]

It's like saying "I can't believe I didn't get accepted into the computer working IT business just because I didn't apply and they had no idea who I am" come on

I wasn't agreeing with you

[red mist]

It's exactly like that.

[next vector]

theyll be other chances though pretty sure the other form still up

[red mist]

I was gonna try it on Fal but

(I realize it's a next gen best in class model that's expensive to run)

[next vector]

learned my lesson have alerts on haha

[sick belfry]

How do you guys use the veofx on phone

Im not able to type anything in from phone

[swift jolt]

https://tenor.com/jb8zOTrvVzu.gif

anyways.

https://tenor.com/kMnF9NZ0rvA.gif

[red mist]

Do you have the same problem I have with the ImageFX prompt window? It messes up the autocorrect. It seems to sabotage it.

[solemn lotus]

Load it in desktop mode. Firefox and Opera work better for me than chrome

[red mist]

The autocorrect is several words behind.

[sick belfry]

Nah i just cant type anything

[sick belfry]

Ill give it a try

[red mist]

The way it generates the dropdown selection windows seems to break my phone keyboard

[sick belfry]

Cant type anywhere

[rain warren]

yeah it doesn't work on mobile for me

[rain warren]

turn ur device in landscape mode

generating the video wont show up on my end

[lime geyser]

why？

[solemn lotus]

Once I do get it going, I can't swap out of the tab or app focus so I've been doing it all via desktop lately.

[sick belfry]

Ty

[rain warren]

most people who signed up through the discord form a couple days ago got access. check out #flow-announcements・📣

if u didn't sign up on the shared form then chances are u didn't get approved yet

[lime geyser]

Is it still too mate?

[rain warren]

unfortunately it is.... they closed the form already 😿

[spiral quest]

f

[rain warren]

however if you DID sign up. check out the videoFX page to confirm if you got access or not.

i signed up but they didn't send me an email, however i still got access anyway.

[spiral quest]

pog

[magic nebula]

the limit hit

[solemn lotus]

How many did it take?

[magic nebula]

169 i think

[lime geyser]

I’m really frustrated! I totally missed it!

[magic nebula]

Well I assume it will restore by tomorrow

[rain warren]

so technically 169 * 4 because 4 videos get generated each time

that's about 600+ videos even if 4 didn't generate

[magic nebula]

No I’ve using the image generator

[rain warren]

oh

[rain warren]

make sure u track that channel... you might get another opportunity i dunno

i seen u around for months so i know u been waiting

[rain warren]

wat

[meager laurel]

Mid music

[rain warren]

ion even understand how it's relevant to google labs community but alr ig

[solemn lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/its-not-peter-i-want-you-back-it-is-not-not-the-case-gif-24853544

[magic nebula]

It’s happened again like 3 minutes and I already hit the limit

[solemn lotus]

i believe it's time based

Gotta walk away for a day.

[real trellis]

I can’t even generate a thing

[magic nebula]

I’m starting to hate this ai now

[meager laurel]

Report the bug

[magic nebula]

Well it says “you have reached your daily limit”

[next vector]

what did you hit a limit in?

[meager laurel]

imagefx

[next vector]

oh wow thats a first

thats much worse, how much did you generate?

[meager laurel]

from my own experience, i once did rage press on generate imagefx button

causing me to hit the limit

[magic nebula]

I thought it would restore daily and this morning it did and then 3 generations in immediately stopped

[meager laurel]

have u tried clearing browser cache, login and logout, or

use different google acc?

[magic nebula]

Ok I’ve logged off and logged back in again it worked

[next vector]

guess the servers due have a limit

[meager laurel]

wait fr?

let me refresh

[willow garnet]

No, still waiting for access 😆 tbf Sora was lacklustre after taking so long (8 months) and Google is releasing it sorta publicly after 3 so big win tbf

Perfectly said. I thought Google was falling behind with AI but apparently not, maybe they won’t have to sell chrome

[grizzled sail]

VEO has killed sora 😄 only thing I wish we had in VEO is sora image quality, but you're right these things go in cycles, AI goes so fast every couple weeks there's another "breakthrough" model surpassing the old ones

I'm not sure I see it, where is that exactly?

And local models are catching up big time. Wan is nearly as good as veo already

Haha this is true 😄 👍

Yep I just don't see it/not sure Im looking in the right place

[sick belfry]

Anyone disappointed by gpt 4.5?

Seems like llms have hit a wall

[grizzled sail]

not really, its not a thinking model and for my use cases performed quite better than 4o

might not be the case for everything idk

[nimble falcon]

Do they know about if there is a video with white in it there's small dark colored lines that flash?

[meager laurel]

What

[nimble falcon]

Yeah someone pointed out there's Veo2 videos if you look in full screen you can see flickering dark lines

[meager laurel]

Can I see

[nimble falcon]

Top left

[meager laurel]

Lookin like UFO photo

Blue grinch

I think some of my generated video got It too

[nimble falcon]

No this is close up they are little specks and I did see the video while small player yeah not as noticeable. But if you make it bigger you can see a bunch flashing.

[meager laurel]

Yeah I know

Hmmm

#1319424187730755636 better bring that to here

Yeah

[weary cave]

Fr, it’s sooo annoying, it ruins the videos

[nimble falcon]

Create a scene with [prompt scene] in photorealistic style using Unreal Engine 5. Include cinematic lighting, high-resolution textures, ray tracing, and volumetric effects. Nanite. Lumen. Depth of field.

If you want an unreal engine CGI style. I'm trying to refine it to be better.

[high idol]

Hey everyone! I’m working on a fun AI feature that rates your voice’s attractiveness. I’d love to hear your thoughts. Please take this quick survey—your feedback will be super valuable! Thanks 🙂

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf3M6m5IDI_HFj-OxqtcrQNGyLyrh0bE5Pm9HpzyG3S0AnRCQ/viewform?usp=sharing

[grizzled sail]

https://tenor.com/view/seriously-gif-23861497

[nimble falcon]

I know mine is bad

[whole hawk]

i dont care what kind of mine.... 😄

[weary cave]

Broooo, I found a browser that stopped me from getting this error on imagefx AND NOW ITS BACK!!!?!?!!?!?

[nimble falcon]

😔

[weary cave]

<@&1173646484311384114> Application error: a client-side exception has occurred (see the browser console for more information). Fix this on ImageFX and VideoFX plssss

[spring notch]

Same

[iron swan]

pretty sus

[heady talon]

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/артем-undefined-90305b343_activity-7301940353069162497-hoe6?utm_source=social_share_send&utm_medium=android_app&rcm=ACoAAFX4lFMB_41cwZ_x2L0SzTNaBOIMKmQmkwg&utm_campaign=share_via

[nimble falcon]

??

[nimble falcon]

Oh yeah then sus

Rank hotness 😭

I hate Mark Zuckerberg

[meager laurel]

mark give me the zu-

[nimble falcon]

I call him Mark Zuckerberg with an F

[crisp ether]

Does anyone know where I can still use Dalle 2?

[meager laurel]

i dont think its available anymore. what features specifically you want to use it for?

[crisp ether]

I just wanted to test it again

[meager laurel]

oh

all i know is dall e 2 was terrible

quality wise

yeah i dont think dall e 2 was ever available via api

[old night]

"Am I Hot or Not" app, 2000.

[muted tartan]

Yezz

[meager spire]

I'm Random....not normal

Ha

[glass temple]

Where should I ask for a prompt to recreate this video? https://youtu.be/0Gj1QaqDk2Q?si=Hkaep73mEZb-DKU4

[viral pecan]

is there a way to create realistic images in whisk as well?

Cause I really like the scene and subject consistency, but the output doesn't look real

[solemn lotus]

Discord emoji

[weary cave]

If anyone is getting the crashing error on ImageFX iOS, the Opera browser might fix it

[muted tartan]

When did you applied

[meager laurel]

He received early access long before the recent early access form was opened.

This was the most recent early access sign-up, specifically for the Discord members of this server. I think anyone who submitted their form on the day it was opened has already received access.

[muted tartan]

Oh wow

[muted tartan]

Wow

[woeful moat]

https://youtu.be/zCMuL7vE9ao?si=uxqpNiz-n7KlzNXx

so project astra is only coming for google ai premium users

😭i dont like this sceme google

[dawn hornet]

do you understand how a business works

[edgy turtle]

when can I get access to Veo 2? I've applied like 6+ times lol

[nimble falcon]

I am trying to avoid comments in videofx, but I found a good prompt with the help of claude for a 3D UE5 high quality video game style.

Create a photorealistic render of [prompt]. scene rendered in Unreal Engine 5 with cinematic lighting and 8K textures. Implement ray-traced reflections, physically based materials with accurate specularity and fresnel effects, detailed normal mapping for surface imperfections, and ambient occlusion for realistic shadowing. Feature volumetric lighting, nanite-level geometric detail, and lumen global illumination for true-to-life environmental lighting. Include characters with intricately modeled hair using strand-based rendering with proper light transmission and subsurface scattering for realistic skin. Apply subtle depth of field for cinematic focus. Style: AAA video game cinematic quality.

If anyone wants to try it

[odd sky]

Stop making useless updates and release image 4 wbk

[final adder]

spill + veo to the public

[crisp ether]

is this problem happening to anyone else? #flow-general・🌊 message

[solemn lotus]

feel free to share it in #flow-tips-n-tricks・✏️ !! Georgia made it so we have a place to talk prompting and generate prompt requests!

I have no idea who sees it in Discord's labryinth of Channel Access so I try to link there directly when it makes sense

I ddi not know general channels existed for weeks!

[neat onyx]

Hi bro, just watched your Video. Thanks for sharing the info ♥️

[crisp ether]

Thanks for watching! You're welcome! Hopefully you learned a thing or two

[neat onyx]

Horrifying ☠️

[crisp ether]

What are you looking forward to making with Veo 2/VideoFX?

[neat onyx]

Am just exploring the chat.

I have an idea in my mind.

Where i can get access btw?

To the lab's software? There ain't a link I guess.

[crisp ether]

For VideoFX, access is not open anymore, at least for early access. They closed the form a couple of days ago, but there is possibly another one coming. We'll see.

[neat onyx]

Thanks for the info, i'll have to wait then..

[meager laurel]

It was open for registration weeks ago, maybe next time stay up to date to the discord server announcement

[solemn lotus]

Yeah come around and post in the image gens and chat a bit. throw some video prompts in #flow-tips-n-tricks・✏️ and volunteers might be able to give up some of their allotment to make yours

[vital trout]

So is this Veo 2?

[meager laurel]

Yep that is Veo 2

[vital trout]

Oh cool

But the first frame generator is not accurate

It must be imagen 3

[meager laurel]

I mean

It’s technically part of VideoFX feature which is Text To Image to Video

That’s why you get the image generation first

[vital trout]

Ok

Ok

[nimble falcon]

Lucky 😭

[ivory hornet]

It’s publicly available

I can use it on my phone too in the youtube app

[meager laurel]

for US region only iirc

[ivory hornet]

I’m in australia

[nimble falcon]

I'm in us and even in beta and can't use it

[nimble falcon]

Where to go for it?

[ivory hornet]

Youtube

[meager laurel]

just follow this video

[nimble falcon]

The video doesn't help

Not everyone has it

[meager laurel]

girl im so confused with you

[nimble falcon]

Text instructions

Like click this and that

[pearl musk]

I want try veo 2 too , is there a way to got it or buy it from someone ?

[nimble falcon]

No one is going to let you buy their email 😂

Not to mention I'm sure breaks terms of service

[pearl musk]

I know that haha , but hopefully some had 2 accounts

[ivory hornet]

Follow this video https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1194661895001612359/1346481575344476200/ScreenRecording_03-04-2025_08-53-33_1.mov?ex=67c8582f&is=67c706af&hm=86160183930af3269d1b8043a2f25d2089d2094ad7cc9750ad71db4d8ab0d08b&

[ivory hornet]

Just to note the videos are locked in that aspect ratio

[nimble falcon]

There's no cursor to get to that create screen

[meager laurel]

what cursor

[ivory hornet]

Ah it’s for mobile phones only

[meager laurel]

lmao

[ivory hornet]

it’s not a feature on pc

[nimble falcon]

That's why I'm saying text to where to go

Video is not helping

[meager laurel]

if this doesnt help you too then i'd say skill issues

[ivory hornet]

^

text instructions

[nimble falcon]

I don't have access for some strange reason

[ivory hornet]

weird

[nimble falcon]

I clicked add and no create at top

I even have access to videofx which makes no sense

[pearl musk]

If someone here had 2 accounts or want to sell his account i’m intersted

[ivory hornet]

Click the picture gallery at the bottom corner

when your in the shorts section

oh wait nevermind

[meager laurel]

im seeling mine for 50 usd c:

[nimble falcon]

I did that not showing up

[meager laurel]

jk

[nimble falcon]

I can generate images for posts tho

[meager laurel]

just use those money on the public accessible api like fal.ai

[pearl musk]

Check dm

[meager laurel]

@pearl musk oh my god i was joking i swear

[pearl musk]

Hahah a need account too hope @outer wagon add me too 😌

[meager laurel]

were u here when georgia announced the early access registration? @pearl musk

because thats how me and most of people here got access, we registered through the form that was open last week

[pearl musk]

A long story bro i forget it about it anyway thanks hope the fourm open again soon

[vital trout]

I want real Veo 2 access

I only have this YouTube thing

[nimble falcon]

They said there won't be another doc sign up like last time

[vital trout]

I been in the waitlist for 5 months

[swift jolt]

happy women's history month😁

[nimble falcon]

This is why I was here I was told there could be another sign up and saw the announcement

I signed up at 5pm exactly

This is you should have always been checking announcements here

[pearl musk]

Bribing !! I’m just asking for is there a chance to try veo2

Any way i understand ur answer hopefully i can try it in tge future

[wary ermine]

does the new colab ai on data work for quering vcf files

[vital trout]

If i do the veo 2 form multtiple times do i have a higher chance of getting accepted or

[fluid quiver]

did we get updates?

or is it just me?

yes we did get them 🫡

this is new, right ?

[outer wagon]

hi Michael! did you sign up for videofx access during the server-wide limited seat drop last week? if so, access was granted for those folks!

#flow-announcements・📣 message

[fluid quiver]

i did, yes

[outer wagon]

you have access thru that 🙂 excited for you to try videofx out! be sure to hang in the videofx section of the server for news and collabs 🙂

#flow-general・🌊
#flow-videos・📹
#1319424187730755636

[meager spire]

There is an error on the videofx page for mobile users. Won't let me go desktop mode anymore

[meager spire]

Disregard i got it fixed

[nimble falcon]

I love how well these videos can loop

[pearl musk]

Can i know if there is a chance to try veo 2 in the future

[pearl musk]

Okey thanks 🙏🏻

[solemn lotus]

#flow-tips-n-tricks・✏️

[vital trout]

Veo 2 https://youtube.com/shorts/V_DemCNdq4I?si=cAN4XlmPJ4Uahpe2

Veo 2 in mobile app does not follow the prompt given. Prompt: “brightly colored blue air doll dancing like crazy in parking lot”

[outer wagon]

hey all! seeing a ton of chatter & questions about VideoFX - please send em over to our VideoFX corner of the server!

#flow-announcements・📣 - for timely announcements about VideoFX.
#flow-general・🌊 - for general VideoFX chatter!
#flow-tips-n-tricks・✏️ - brainstorm prompts, and share your prompt requests with VideoFX users who may be able to generate a video for you (please ask kindly!)
#flow-videos・📹 - to showcase VideoFX generations
#1319424187730755636 - to submit VideoFX bugs 🪲

If these channels aren't already in your channel list, be sure to go to Channels & Roles (top of the server!) and select "Show All Channels"

[weary cave]

Nah u

[candid dragon]

Sup faam

[bright pendant]

I have access to Veo2, if you want a chance to use it, feel free to send me prompt requests! I'll generate them and I'll send them :)

[whole hawk]

hello. how Veo2 with skin colours (drow)

[vital trout]

Is this even Veo 2 ?

[paper anvil]

So I've been told to give whisk a try for OC work and stuff how do I work this I'm confused a little sorry

[dry bronze]

https://youtu.be/SV8CkjJdiBE

This video is a pretty good overview on how to use whisk. Note: our mobile UX needs some work. One you select the images there you can press the X at the top right and then hit the bottom right button to remix those images.

Also join us on the #whisk-general・💭 and #whisk-gallery・🖼 channels if you aren't there already.

[solemn lotus]

As someone that primary uses phone for accessibility reasons, mobile UI could be a lot worse. I have 938 files attached here and over 900 were all phone.

[nova mural]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but how long is the waitlist for Android Studio in Project IDX?

I just signed up and I can't wait to have access!

Is there a disco5rd server specifically for IDX?

[solemn lotus]

https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000468588-Using-Search

Next time , trying using thesearch function to see if the thing you want to talk about is talked about here.

Search Android Studio. and you will see you are the first time it's ever mentiomned
Search Project IDX and it's been namedropped 4 times ever, 2 the same guy.

If you search waitlist, and you will see two hundred and fifty three messages. Only yours is tied to te IDK waitlist. The other 252 examples of personalization bias: are around videofx.

You can also check Welcome & Info tabs. to see if it's mentioned there. While you're there, stop bythe channel subscribe panel to see if any of the available channels are tied to your interest.

[dense solstice]

Is it me or did the video FX just start working out of nowhere showing a few working test videos ? Or was that always there ?

Seems like there was a small update anyone know a list of the changes?

[solemn lotus]

They were working on it live yesterday. One of the engineers was kind enough to appear in the videofx general for a minute.

Also @dense solstice scroll up a.bit. s
We've been advised to put videofx.chat in the videofx general.

[dense solstice]

Will do thanks

[nova mural]

OK, thx!

[nova mural]

Thanks

[nova mural]

hmmmm

ok well apparently the google developer community discord has answers

i thought idx was, but i was wrong

[rain warren]

IDX IS actually a labs project

[weary cave]

Haha this message was yesterday

[rain warren]

just like data science agent is as well. but i feel like IDX should probably have its own separate server, similar to how they did it with notebookLM

[pearl musk]

Thanks bro

[narrow chasm]

How to get access to Veo 2?

[nimble falcon]

Fal.ai or freepik. There's also imagineapp.co

[ivory hornet]

Waitlist

[narrow chasm]

I did not get the access I applied for 2 days ago.

[ivory hornet]

ah

[nimble falcon]

You won't get it in just 2 days

I applied months ago and only got in because of the last week beta sign up

[nimble falcon]

This is why I wish people joined the server a while back and focused on the announcements. They gave a sign up for the beta.

[whole granite]

https://fxtwitter.com/labsdotgoogle/status/1897376700666626233 👀

[stuck ferry]

Just got it

[whole granite]

same!

[split nimbus]

Where does it pop up? Man, that looks cool!

[whole granite]

did you get access? you first gen an image then you will see "animate"

whisk animate!

[outer wagon]

learn more about Whisk Animate: #whisk-announcements・📣 message

[woeful moat]

Do people use project IDX?

I got access to it a few years ago and I still couldn't figure out what it is and how to use it lol

Is it like an IDE?

[mystic verge]

Love IDX, kinda an IDE but more. But if you had to briefly summarize it, it’s a combination of a great browser based Ide that also has the power of Gemini, as well as a growing list of agenetic features. On demand preview like what you might see called canvas on other tools they had well before. Really is a great project and tool.

[woeful moat]

As I'm not specifically a coder but I do basic Java programs, so is it a good choice in my case? I've been using BlueJ by now

[mystic verge]

It’s hard to give an objective answer, but they are always iterating and trying to make it have an easier barrier to entry so they even have templates to start from whether it be Java or JavaScript or C-sharp, or Flutter and more. They probably have a starter template for Java, and if they don’t, it’s still functions like an IDE so you can use it with Java anyways, but have the assistance of the Gemini model to help you with syntax or questions.

[woeful moat]

I see

[whole granite]

whisk animate

[meager laurel]

THIS IS AWESOME, ah i guess its too late to register for the thingy

[vital trout]

made this with Veo 2 on yt https://youtube.com/shorts/cHptQYow6dQ?si=Q1HUQbaroYWsrpM6

[woeful moat]

How did you make these?

[whole granite]

wisk animate!

[whole granite]

see here :)

[woeful moat]

I just received an email from Google regarding an update on access to project Mariner and also a Google form invitation to be a part of their trusted testers group or community

[woeful moat]

Does it use VideoFX?

[whole granite]

yes. it uses veo 2

[whole granite]

same

[woeful moat]

I see. So it's the only way I have access to Veo 2 lol cuz they never giving me the invitation for VideoFX lol

[solemn lotus]

Have you ever spent an hour animating only to find out a tool that could cut your time in half dropped whisk you were doing it? That's awesome.

[solemn lotus]

#todays-special・🥣 is Racing! Come over and post something related to the daily concept of racing that you made with the Google lab tools !

[uneven marsh]

me when im listening to musicfx from my pixel buds connected to my pixel 9 while having imagefx open on my pixelbook while having videofx playing on my chromecast with google tv with audio playing from google nest speakers (controlling it with pixel tablet btw)

[twin edge]

is fast mode new?

[sour cove]

Oh, Veo 2 Turbo??

We need to test the quality difference

[twin edge]

the quality is pretty good in my testing

[swift jolt]

for sure

[uneven marsh]

YES

[slow nymph]

What's the difference between Data Science Agent in Colab vs. Julius.ai?

[frozen pendant]

Did google make imagefx website unusable on mobile on purpose or what?

[weary cave]

Yeah, they are just taking the piss

It’s bloody annoying!

All they do is just care about Desktop users

They recently added a new bug to VideoFX Mobile, where you have to rotate your screen to view a video

[swift jolt]

they're working on fixing it, give them time.🙂

[iron swan]

ooh I want to test the difference now

[weary cave]

It’s bad

[meager laurel]

wait youre 15 years old and got access to videofx?

[rain warren]

fast mode isn't really bad tbh

[iron swan]

I've tried it only once

not so much faster

[rain warren]

yeah i agree with that. not that much faster, don't really notice any huge decrease in quality

that seed feature will come in clutch though

[woeful moat]

anyone got access to the AI Mode of google?

[rain warren]

which ai model specifically

[rain dagger]

Hello there ?

[rain warren]

sup

[rain warren]

still on the list. looks like thats a new experiment

[woeful moat]

yea it was dropped yesterday but i saw some youtubers accessing it alr

btw guys i might get access to project mariner really soon

like in a few days

[rain warren]

man these ytbers get access to the best things so fast

[woeful moat]

yeaaa i got access to daily listen thing on google after a few weeks

[rain warren]

yet as a software developer it took me a year to even have access to veo

[woeful moat]

did u finally get access to veo?

[rain warren]

yes most people who signed up through the form in #flow-announcements・📣 got access maybe less than a week ago

form is closed now though unfortunately. thankfully i was able to sign up in time

[woeful moat]

ohhh

i see

i think i missed it

[woeful moat]

did u get access?

are u advanced subscriber?

bruh it was out yesterday

how did u have access for a while

also are u a google one subscriber?

how you get in the private beta?

is it only for paid?

i do the same but i never got the invitation or anything. but yesterday I got an email from google to fill a google form to be a part of the community of their trusted testers

btw do u also have access to project mariner?

oww. i see i didnt even get access to veo

😭

I got this from google

Oh I can apply multiple times? I thought doing that would make them angry 💀 I applied like 6-7 times for veo by now

Yea I wrote like an essay for every question they asked in the form

I wonder how long it would take them to get me access to either AI mode or project mariner

Do you have early access to some other tools now as wel?

Oww. I applied in everything in Google labs since Google announced the Labs website lol

Oww

I see

What?

Oww is just "Oh" 💀💀💀

I just style it like tht lol

Samee but I never understood how to use Notion. I just joined it because I was excited because of AI

I got access to Bard the next week they announced bard lol

Oww i see

This is probably the first thing that I got from google 🥲

Good old days :))

Yepp. I didn't know that they care about the feedback but now I understand what you say. Thanks for saying

I'm really excited for Google IO. pretty sure some super cool stuff is coming

Yeaa but I kinda lost my expectations

Cuz they revealing new things in hurry for some reasons

Like we're so close to IO

They already gave us: 1) AI mode 2) Giving access to project Mariner 3) Project Astra in Gemini app 4) Veo access 5) Daily listen and so on

I was expecting them to unveil these at IO

But they already gave these to us

No cuz like they give us many things at the event. Like in 2023 we got a lot of stuff

Oww. Do we have any information about any of them?

Ohh

Yea true have to wait 2.5 more months

yea hopefully

is there any way to know if my ai overview is using gemini 2.0?

looks like it's only paid

ohh

i see

ohh i understand now

[rain warren]

google is love, google is life

😉