Lethal Expansion and SDK

[placid vine]

you might reverse to 1.3.15 and try to check if the coilhead is still bugged like that, i need reports about this fix

could fix the thunder inside too

[cobalt relic]

wait what the hell you did a workaround to try to fix the two handed anim already ? I should test it too maybe that'll help

I can test some stuff in 1.3.15 with the coil head too

[cobalt relic]

Okay so I've tested the 1.3.17 animation support for 2 handed items but unfortunately it didn't change the issue on my side

the mod works fine on v47 (v48 actually is the newer version now apparently)

but yeah the 2 handed anim doesn't play

[placid vine]

Hmm
I will check again

[cobalt relic]

Man I don't see anywhere on thunderstore how to manually download a previous version of the mod, I'd like to test the storm going through the roof on 1.3.15

oh my bad it was at the bottom of the page 😄

[cobalt relic]

So I had 2 keys and one canned food inside wateridge facility for a whole day, with a storm outside, and no lightning got inside on 1.3.15

I might have been lucky, I'd like to test it out on aquatis because I remember lightning going through the roof

[placid vine]

lighting strike clients only

not host

[cobalt relic]

ah shit I need friends then

I'll try it tonight

[placid vine]

okay

[placid vine]

i checked and it work

i have the proper animation

[cobalt relic]

Ok maybe I did something wrong then

I updated lethalexpansion to 1.3.17 did it need something else ?

[placid vine]

change the animation here

[cobalt relic]

Okay I don't have this slider I guess I need to update the unity part too then

[placid vine]

yes

[cobalt relic]

yeah I told myself that this thing should still be updated sometimes I never did it

How can I update it ?

probably dumb af but I have no clue

[placid vine]

just overwrite

[cobalt relic]

Yep, it works ! You're a god

So just for the record when you update LethalSDK it means I need to overwrite the Unity setup right ?

[reef plaza]

So, I'm curious, are there plans to make LethalExpansion compatible alongside LethalLevelLoader? Since I know Scoopy's Variety Mod's interior has moved to it, and I know the SCP Foundation Dungeon is planning on moving to it soon, I imagine that would make compatibility with your SDKs easier if all of the modded interiors function under the same umbrella.

Cuz I'm not gonna lie, it would really suck to see a rift in the community between LE and LLL and have to choose whenever I want cool modded moons or cool modded interiors

[placid vine]

yes

[placid vine]

i honestly dunno, we'll see how goes the compatibility
i still need help to continue LE and the SDK, alone i do overdoses and don't find the mood to work lately

[reef plaza]

Valid

[random tusk]

Should I choose my shovel item as two handed? @placid vine

Ok I will make it Two Handed

@placid vine It is different in two handed animation how can I fix it

[random tusk]

I take the ax in my hand, but when I left click, it stays like this and does not hit. Also, I cannot press G and drop the item.

[drifting laurel]

Updating the SDK completly broke my mod so ima have to redo it from scratch Edit: not doing that all again, such bs how the SDK breaks easily

[silk void]

@placid vine yo, is there anything specific that biggerlobby does that makes it incompatible w/ lethalexpansion

i need to change some things for the new version. if there's anything you need me to fix it's a good time

[wary totem]

I want to personally thank @placid vine for this. Not only is it amazing, it is so fun creating with the SDK. So many ideas can come to light. Respect 🙏

[placid vine]

What does it broke exactly?

[placid vine]

Ok I will check why this happens

[placid vine]

Hello
It's the network sync which broke
They both patch the chat in an incompatible way

[silk void]

i'll take a look

[placid vine]

Controllable boombox had same issue
And they did a compatibility patch lately
You could see at the commit they did

Lc_api and more company both use a chat patch that work with the chat patch of LE
You can peek if there's something particular in theses too

[tired citrus]

Having the same issue

Melee weapons seem to not work

[placid vine]

for some reasons the isHoldingButton state of the shovel does not reset

[placid vine]

and isBeingUsed quickly twitch from true and false

i don't understand

[placid vine]

ok i found

the issue wasn't even in the shovel script, it was in the player controller script

[placid vine]

@random tusk@tired citrus
finally fixed in 1.3.18

[cobalt relic]

gg

They say on the other discord the LECore fixed the the coil head glitch, I'm asking some more about that maybe that could be helpful

[random tusk]

alright I will try again today

[random tusk]

where is 1.3.18

[placid vine]

not SDK

the mod

[random tusk]

ok so you mean I dont need to update unity project

[placid vine]

no

[random tusk]

ok

[cobalt relic]

I can't post pictures anymore wtf is this bs

I need help for something but I can't post the screenshot now what

[placid vine]

Discord being discording

[cobalt relic]

alright well I was about to ask some help on these new hands and how to make my model match the hand position correctly in this version, I put a brick in the one handed model hand and copied the transform param but, as I thought it would, it was not at the right place

https://i.ibb.co/GpL1kDT/image.png

So there's something I don't get there

[placid vine]

Did you placed the brink in the object called HoldAxis ?

[cobalt relic]

Oh

no

it's a prefab floating in the scene

[placid vine]

Yes that's why

Theses objects are the referencials

[cobalt relic]

Ohhh

I think I get it, I opened the scene again and indeed it seems right there

So I place the item in the HoldAxis as a child I guess

[placid vine]

Yes

[cobalt relic]

then I can copy the position etc

[placid vine]

Exactly

[cobalt relic]

alright thank you I'll do it right away 🙏

[rain coral]

Will the video tutorial come out soon?

[random tusk]

@placid vine I made shovel hit force 3 and I can instantly kill any entity with 1 hit

How can I make it more balanced

can I give float value to shovel hit force?

[placid vine]

Enemies just have 3 hp

[random tusk]

oh ok

[placid vine]

Float are not possible

The value is an int

[random tusk]

alright

[placid vine]

Their hp too

[random tusk]

ok I will make 1 or 2

[cobalt relic]

Does "Use global spawn weight" overwrite weights you customized per moons ?

Or is it for non customized moons only like modded ones and such

[random tusk]

yea it is owerwriting spawn rate

for all moons

[cobalt relic]

So how do you make a default spawn weight for modded moons and such ?

[placid vine]

Add a moon called Others

Like on the last version of the templates

@cobalt relic

[cobalt relic]

Ok I see, thanks guys

[wary totem]

Whats the correct way to get Ladders to work? Just tried it and confused xD Ty

[placid vine]

Look at the ladder or Wateridge

[indigo skiff]

for some reason Wateridge isn't showing in the moons list

[Info   :LethalExpansion] Module found: D.C./Aridion v1.3.0.0 Loaded in 648ms
[Info   :LethalExpansion] Module found: Kast v1.3.0.0 Loaded in 8677ms
[Info   :LethalExpansion] Module found: Oblivion v1.3.16.0 Loaded in 451ms
[Info   :LethalExpansion] Module found: OldSeaPort v1.3.15.0 Loaded in 2976ms
[Info   :LethalExpansion] Module found: ChristmasVillage v1.3.3.2 Loaded in 1131ms
[Info   :LethalExpansion] Module found: 10 E Gypt v0.1.0.0 Loaded in 3932ms
[Info   :LethalExpansion] Module found: Ether v0.1.1.9 Loaded in 4518ms
[Info   :LethalExpansion] Module found: Infernis v1.0.0.0 Loaded in 1087ms
[Info   :LethalExpansion] Module found: Crypt v1.3.2.0 Loaded in 8ms
[Info   :LethalExpansion] Module found: MinecraftTaigaMoon v1.1.1.0 Loaded in 533ms
[Info   :LethalExpansion] Module found: Aquatis v0.4.2.0 Loaded in 7903ms
[Info   :LethalExpansion] Module found: Orion v1.1.3.0 Loaded in 6050ms
[Info   :LethalExpansion] Module found: Assal v1.1.0.0 Loaded in 2901ms

----

[Info   :LethalExpansion] Terminal reset.
[Info   :LethalExpansion] D.C.Aridion Moon added.
[Info   :LethalExpansion] 13-Kast Moon added.
[Info   :LethalExpansion] Oblivion Moon added.
[Info   :LethalExpansion] ChristmasVillage Moon added.
[Info   :LethalExpansion] ChristmasVillageNoTime Moon added.
[Info   :LethalExpansion] 10 EGypt Moon added.
[Info   :LethalExpansion] ether Moon added.
[Info   :LethalExpansion] Infernis Moon added.
[Info   :LethalExpansion] Crypt Moon added.
[Info   :LethalExpansion] Taiga Moon added.
[Info   :LethalExpansion] Aquatis Moon added.
[Info   :LethalExpansion] Orion Moon added.
[Info   :LethalExpansion] Assal Moon added.
[Info   :LethalExpansion] Conviction Moon added.
[Info   :LethalExpansion] atlasabyss Moon added.
[Info   :LethalExpansion] secret labs Moon added.
[Info   :LethalExpansion] Moon route price updated.

even though OldSeaPort is loaded

[short loom]

Hello, Hi, so grateful to have a LE/SDK ❤️ I made a cool moon. I would like only coil heads to spawn in the dungeon, but after adjusting the settings many times I still can't seem to get any monsters to spawn...If you could point me in the right direction on this I would super appreciate it! (:

[placid vine]

It's in the templatemod

OldSeaPort contains it's assets, textures, meshes, etc

[indigo skiff]

ah, I see

[cobalt relic]

Ever tried the whoopie cushion scrap type ? I tried to add a .mp3 sound directly into the "whoopie cushion audio" at the end of the inspector page but it doesn't fit, can't select my file

I don't understand what I have to put in this place

[placid vine]

you have to register your audio files in the assetbank of your mod
and write their name in the scrap

[cobalt relic]

Mmmmmh ok I did this but it doesn't work, do I have to add anything in the whoopie cushion audio list ? Because when I click on it the list is empty

https://i.ibb.co/GnhKg4W/image.png

[placid vine]

any error in log ?

[cobalt relic]

No error in unity

the console ingame doesn't show much, but when I step on a whoopie cushion I get this
[Info : Unity Log] Collided with whoopie cushion
[Info : Unity Log] Fart with debounce called : 125,9099; 0
[Info : Unity Log] Fart c

Which I don't get when I walk on my custom asset

(I also added the Asset bank in the mod manifest at the bottom)

[placid vine]

i could look at it later if i can

[placid vine]

does it have a box collider ?

[placid vine]

i missed your message sorry

can you show me screenshots of your moon's settings ?

[cobalt relic]

It has one yes, I'll check at home to see if it's properly set when I'm done working

[short loom]

https://imgur.com/a/oJu6bRV I copied the WaterDeep planes( y: -107 and -108) from the oldSeaPort to help block the sunlight from entering the dungeon..Thanks so much!

[placid vine]

entrance audio reverb id must be 2 to disable the light

don't add a plane to block the light x)

and weird, with your screenshot it should spawn

[short loom]

Just went to the moon Dine to see if monsters spawn, and nothing spawned, so it might be something unrelated 🤔

[placid vine]

Any other mod ?

[short loom]

just deleted LethalLib going to try it

[placid vine]

Lethallib should work with LE

[short loom]

Am I in some sort of 'admin' mode and not realizing it? My stamina is not decreasing

[short loom]

Found it, Inside the Config for Posiedon.GameMaster.cfg there is a 'Natural Enemy Spawn = false

[cobalt relic]

I can confirm it has a regular collision box and a scan node box https://i.ibb.co/VmbMcmZ/image.png

[brittle meteor]

does the "more company" works for the last version of the game???

[drifting laurel]

When I try to export, it spams the same message "ScrapModName.lem" can't be found, even when restarting NEW projects, the first Asset Build works, then asoon as I asset build again it breaks

Very frustrating

[placid vine]

Uncheck trigger and contact for the root collider

[placid vine]

Conflict in file names

Read the console logs to see which files exactly

[cobalt relic]

Mmmh I unchecked both but it still doesn't want to work There is no message in the ingame console when I step on the object, and there still is when I step on a vanilla whoopie cushion

[cobalt relic]

Also I was wondering if the SDK was able to modify already existing planets from the vanilla game by any chance ?

[placid vine]

no sadly

[cobalt relic]

Thanks to your help I managed to upload my mod

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Justice69/ImmersiveScraps/

Thank you very much 🙏

I don't understand, some people tell me to switch the LECore because of all the fixes and such, do you think I should do that ?

[cobalt relic]

Also is it possible to make a config file for things like prices of scraps, etc...?

I'm sorry I'm asking a lot of things at once

[placid vine]

config file was what i planned as next major update

but i don't think it will come soon

[scarlet scaffold]

Hey guys, I've been trying to implement a noisemaker prop with the new sdk and I think im doing something wrong but I don't know what

it doesn't let me post a picture here, but I have the noisemaker scrap type and in the noisemaker option I have my prefab selected as a source but no audio far source

[placid vine]

Use another audio source for far

But is it optional

[scarlet scaffold]

okok, but yeah I even tried with the whoopie cushion type. I can select my audio source but it doesn't play in game

[placid vine]

It's a known issue

[scarlet scaffold]

ahhh fair enough

[placid vine]

i just tried, noisemaker works

[scarlet scaffold]

maybe I'm doing it wrong?

[placid vine]

i just changed the Battery from templates into noisemaker, haven't done anything else

and it worked

[scarlet scaffold]

I'll try something tomorrow

also I'm having a problem with another scrap that I've made. It's a type of painting but the image always faces away from the player. I've tried modifying the offset but any idea what value I should use to flip it towards the player?

[placid vine]

show me a screenshot, i don't understand

[scarlet scaffold]

can't send it in chat for some reason so I'll send you a dm

[placid vine]

@cobalt relic@scarlet scaffold
for whoppie it requires a trigger object
i do a quick update to add a missing component on this trigger too

[scarlet scaffold]

okok fair enough, so basically just a box collider with is trigger on

Also I sent the image

can you send a screenshot of the battery with the audio source and stuff?

If that's possible of course

[placid vine]

i added nothing on the battery

it generated the required components

but place a custom audio source allow to customize it's behaviour

[scarlet scaffold]

okok then is there a way to add a custom mp3 sound?

[placid vine]

yes

in the asset bank, in the mod manifest

[scarlet scaffold]

okok that might've been why

[cobalt relic]

Thanks I'll try it out tonight 👍

Also I added a sound on a clock, some alarm sound but it's so distorted ingame when I click on LMB to trigger (also there is no UI like the clown horn to say you can press LMB)

Do you know why the sound is so distorted ?

[placid vine]

i think it's the audio source

it is missconfigured

[cobalt relic]

Is it on my end ? How can I change this ?

[placid vine]

add an audio source in the prefab

add an audio output interface too

[dim forge]

Hello, attempting the Whoopie Cushion effect myself. I feel I am missing something. Is the Trigger on a particular layer and tag?

[placid vine]

last LE version ?

it has been fixed in 1.3.19

[dim forge]

hmm, doesnt seem to be triggering still. one moment

can't seem to post the images

did make the Trigger a separate child node, with the trigger collision box

the Tagis Untagged and Layer is Props currently

[dim forge]

huh, worked when I took that trigger off entirely! my apologies

[placid vine]

a trigger is automatically created

[dim forge]

Ahhh, gotcha

[maiden mountain]

is lethal expansion still compatible with v49? when i updated the game, i tried loading up my custom moons but they dont seem to show up in the terminal

[indigo skiff]

should be

[fading acorn]

conflict caused by LLL, just install LethalExpansionCore (dont remove LethalExpansion)

[drifting laurel]

Can't send image, but I went through all files and it's there, just it wont replace it

idk why

Think I figured it out

nvm

lol

[short loom]

Does anyone happen to know why, when adding more than 1 fire exit, the extra fire exits don't let you enter and say "??? The entrance appears to be blocked." .....I copied the same Interact Trigger from the template EntranceTeleportA Door...Each door has a unique Entrance ID..thanks so much!<3 I've also tried adjusting the FireExitsAmountOverwrite

[placid vine]

It's weird
Does the fireexits on wateridge are working?
It may be a global bug

[short loom]

Hmm ill have to check it..wait to get waterRidge's .lem file would I have to make a new scene of oldSeaPort and build the assets? (im v sleepy rn my bad lol) I need to noclip down into the dungeon somehow and see if the exits are actually blocked and/or even spawning at all etc Heres link to screenshots, https://imgur.com/a/rDcQgHA ...idk if it will help, i'm going to keep trying tomorrow

[heavy leaf]

Is there any way to attach a simple script to a scrap object?
Thinking about making a scrap object that adds a bit of insanity when players first look at it just like a corpse

[placid vine]

no sorry, for safety, custom scripts are not allowed and automatically removed

[heavy leaf]

What do you mean by safety?

It's just as easy to include malicious code in any mod, attaching it to a custom scrap item through this SDK is not any different

Anyone who wants to bundle malicious code with their scrap mod can do so just by including it in their dll without attaching it to the scrap item. That restriction is zero barrier against people who might want to be malicious

But it would be very useful for those of us who just want to make new scrap items

[placid vine]

the SDK and LE remove every script that are not whitelisted before load the scraps/moons

[placid vine]

neither, if the scrap is loaded with LE, the script will be removed before it's Awake void

[heavy leaf]

That's not what I'm saying. Removing scripts like that is pointless because the mod could just include its own code in a dll that has nothing to do with the SDK. Stripping scripts from the scrap items does exactly zero to prevent a bad actor from including malicious code in their mod, it's just a restriction for those of us who want to make interesting things

Not to mention it wouldn't be very hard to circumvent with a simple harmony patch

[reef plaza]

I have to agree with this, any mod you download can inject code, all you're really doing is forcing extra steps

[placid vine]

True
But it's the minimum I can do
Admins of thunderstore agreed this method
Anyway as you saw on the mod page, I'm looking for a successor for it
The next contributors could remove this feature if they want

At least a DLL can be scanned
A bundle can't be scanned by any antivirus
So if there's malicious code, it will be in a DLL and easy to find
With this feature it's impossible to add malicious code in a bundle
@heavy leaf @reef plaza

[woeful ingot]

hopefully I found the right place to ask for help using the SDK (and sorry if something similar has been brought up before, I can't easily check in forums).

I'm new to unity, and have been stumped by this apparent lighting issue I'm getting in my testing with terrain. I've tried adding roughness maps and changing smoothness, but no matter what the terrain is always way too reflective and shiny, with these white edges around everything as well (even when the terrain doesn't look reflective in the editor). Not sure if I'm doing something wrong with the materials or the terrain game object, but any help would be appreciated.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/362762359556538368/1196746479273001050/image.png

[reef plaza]

That's valid, I hadn't thought of the anti-virus angle

[placid vine]

can you show me ?

[woeful ingot]

I attached an image link in the message since I cant add attachments, if it's not showing up this should work too:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/362762359556538368/1196746479273001050/image.png

[placid vine]

it seems the terrain don't have an texture

how it look in Unity ?

[woeful ingot]

the glare is intense in that pic, but you can see the texture in the first pic, and the second shows the same area in the editor
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/663270103185358848/1196787895328055367/image.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/663270103185358848/1196788546154008616/image.png
it seems like a lot of the changes I've been making to the terrain (like varying the normal map strength) hasnt been doing anything, so I suspect there some kind of disconnect between what's in the editor and what's actually being used, everything else I change on the map updates fine though.

[dire bobcat]

https://i.postimg.cc/qR1D4g1f/image.png Mess around with the values I highlighted. or use a mask map

[woeful ingot]

I've tried both, hasnt seemed to change a thing, thats why im thinking i made some deeper mistake somewhere with the terrain file

the terrain just gets packed into the map prefab, right? I dont need to store anything separately as a resource?

[placid vine]

@woeful ingot can i see the icons you checked on the top of the scene viewer ?

[woeful ingot]

these ones?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/663270103185358848/1196796147780567130/image.png

[placid vine]

yes

and theres no problem, you have the proper ones

show me your texture layers

[woeful ingot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/663270103185358848/1196799695499051059/image.png

[grizzled coral]

Moons added in lethal expansion no longer show on terminal anyonw know how to fix this?

[rose tide]

LethalLevelLoader isn’t compatible and causes this

[grizzled coral]

thx

[placid vine]

Sorry
I'm back

I guess you tried to change the AO

Weird

[wary totem]

How do you use the reverb scripts in Holos's SDK to stop custom audio from playing when you have entered the dungeon. I have many custom moons already but haven't figured out how to stop it like that.

[placid vine]

The entrance's reverb id must be 2

[wary totem]

OK so reverb 2, but where would I put the audio file? I always make a new audio source haha. I see music 1 and music 2 slots already made can that be put in one if those?

What do you mean by entrance sorry.

[placid vine]

I mean the entrances doors

They have a trigger script in them

[wary totem]

Omg lmao.

Wait so any audio outside will turn off if I set that to 2?

Thank you.

I see another dev made something like lethal expansion. I will not jump over ever. I'm Holo all the way.

[placid vine]

You can
I'm slowly stopping the support of LE

I search for someone to continue the project

LLL is inspired of LE and my researchs, but may go further
It may be the future of LC modding

I just personally don't approve that LLL to let made custom scripts and export them in bundles
It's unsafe as fuck

[indigo skiff]

hey uhh, should I leave Planet Prefab Name empty?

[placid vine]

You can

[indigo skiff]

so I'm trying to move the delivery ship's position but I don't know where it went within the game, all I hear is just the delivery sound in the distance.
I moved itemshipinstancer or it should be the Systems ?

sorry pretty new to this 👉 👈

[placid vine]

it should be in Systems yes

as the template

and beware to don't have two ones in the moon

[indigo skiff]

getting delivery after ordering even before landing :/

nowhere to be found still lol

[wary totem]

Ya I read that. Thank you for all of your work BTW. Truly awesome and respected. I just got used to your SDK to so this hurts

[wary totem]

Ya I program for a living and that's a BIG no no. That's why I asked you if you supported it. It's cool and all but will leave the community with malicious scripts running locally.

I love Unity so much. I started in Unreal for a game engine but prefer Unity.

[wary totem]

Ya they are both default set to Reverb Preset 2 for interact trigger. What do I do with my custom audio to connect to this

[placid vine]

it's connected, nothing to do

in Systems you have the audio reverb presets

and the 3rd (ID : 2) one should be inside

[wary totem]

Yes I understand that hehe. I mean, where am I supposed to place my audio? Right now I made its own audio source. Is it supposed to go into Music1 or Music 2 instead?

My custom audio still plays when inside because nothing is telling my custom audio to stop. My custom audio isnt connected to anything is what I mean

Its just on an audio source

[placid vine]

ah, up to you

i never experimented custom musics

so i dunno

but i don't think they are disabled when entering in the dungeon

[wary totem]

Ya no they aren't. I do see music 1 and 2 though I tried putting my custom music in numebr 2 to see but no xD

[placid vine]

the dungeon is at Y - 200

you can change the curve

volume alwais at 1 and suddenly gets at 0 when too far

you can make the dungeon lower too by moving it's root

[wary totem]

Hmmm Ya that would work to. Make 3D sound or leave 2D? 3D works but can get distorted sometimes and slow down LOL

[haughty wren]

So Ive been experimenting with the SDK in unity. I got my model in, posed, all that stuff. It appears in game and when I scan it the right name and value pops up. But I cant pick it up. Like i walk up to it and the PICK UP text doesnt appear any reason why this would happen?

[placid vine]

distortion is the doppler effect

[placid vine]

does it have a collision and the proper object tags ?

as the templates

[haughty wren]

A collider on the node and and object right?

Oh wait does it need a tag?

[haughty wren]

Also are there any tips to properly setting the position of it in your hands. Rn its like upside down behind my head

[placid vine]

theres a scene for that

in the Mods/LethalExpansion folder

[placid vine]

it does

[placid vine]

look how the templates are made

[haughty wren]

I cant send an SS but I put it to where its placed in the arms properly then put it down as a prefab

[placid vine]

no, you have offsets values in the scrap asset

drop the prefab in the proper axis in the scene

and copy it's rotation and location as offset

[haughty wren]

Alr Ill try that thx

[haughty wren]

How could I give it an animation that just loops over and over

[indigo skiff]

@placid vine any ideas why this happens? I only moved the transforms-

I'll try with a fresh project if not

[placid vine]

unsure to understand the problem

oh the song

do you have two drop pods on the scene ?

[indigo skiff]

only one

[placid vine]

hmm

[indigo skiff]

I did try remove it from hierarchy and grabbed another from the prefab to try fix it but no luck-

[placid vine]

it is in the Systems object ?

[indigo skiff]

yep

[placid vine]

it must be a difference between your moon and the template in any way

[indigo skiff]

do I have to reassign them somewhere or?

[placid vine]

no, just copy paste from the template should be enough

[indigo skiff]

okie, I'll try that

[maiden mountain]

would it be fairly simple to change a moon's skybox? was hoping to do this to my new moon im creating

[wary totem]

I haven't tried that yet thats a good idea but not sure if supports it. What I did is make a "fake" skybox haha. Made a Sphere around the map and animated my own "fake skybox" Player has no idea hehe

But there is probably.a more logical way I unno haha

[dire bobcat]

Put a cubemap here https://ibb.co/VxPsRvL. (make sure you have a volume profile file in your project files) If you dont just hit clone and drag it into your project files

[maiden mountain]

i almost went that path, specially cuz the map im trying to port comes from another game, and they handled their skybox through a sphere model, but unfortunaly that wasnt working haha. thank you tho!

[maiden mountain]

ahh okay, thank you! ill try this method

[dire bobcat]

If you import a texture set this to Cube https://ibb.co/CJg3DdS

[maiden mountain]

oh yeah, thank you for the heads up

ill try building my moon soon and see if everything worked out

[wary totem]

Is this your first moon? :D. I'm so excited to see it! DM me when done so i can downlaod! I've made about 6 now!

[maiden mountain]

this is technically my fourth moon! but it'll probably be the first one i make public, since i've got the practice to make a proper moon now haha

and can do! will message you whenever i publish it :D

[mighty spear]

I apologize as I know basically nothing about Unity.

I've been doing my best to follow the format for adding scrap into the game. I made a copy of the example scrap, added in my own prefabs, attatched a material, edited the name of the scrap and the values. I then changed the mod name on the manifest. Then I deleted the example scrap folder and I'm ending up with an error when I try to build.

If someone would be willing to help me, I would greatly appreciate it. I apologize again that I don't know much and I'm doing my best to learn.

[placid vine]

change the HDRP profile

it's in the Lighting object

don't edit it, create a new one

ah perfect, sdDesat answered

[woeful ingot]

Ended up (pretty much) finding a solution to this if anybody encounters the same shiny terrain issue. Instead of using the roughness mask, lowering the opacity (i.e. alpha channel) of the main texture (the one under diffuse) seemed to do the trick in lowering the smoothness. Though my normal maps still dont seem to quite be taking effect, I'm just about satisfied.

[maiden mountain]

would this happen to be correct? https://gyazo.com/674ff31977467b6a4c38ad52fe61be17

i tried it but it still seems like the skybox hasn't changed

[haughty wren]

Does anybody know why my map does not appear anywhere? I try to type its name but it still does not appeer

[indigo skiff]

make sure to uncheck Is Hidden in your Moon Settings within Unity

[haughty wren]

I have it set as un hidden

Always did so that is not the issue

[indigo skiff]

hm, that's odd

[haughty wren]

I cant like see it in the moons tab and it doesnt appear when I type its name

[haughty wren]

Are there any other things that could cause it to just not appear

[indigo skiff]

anything in the console? like did your moon gets loaded at all or

eg:

[haughty wren]

1 sec

[haughty wren]

For some reason i cant post ss's but It is loading the module

When would the moon register?

[haughty wren]

OH it is actually registering the moon

it simply doesnt appear

[haughty wren]

Any other things i could do to debug? or anything else that could cause it to not worl

[indigo skiff]

I have no idea.. is there any errors or warnings?

[haughty wren]

oohhh i found smthn

let me fix something

[wary totem]

Double check everything. Mod manifest in Unity etc also. It does work.

[wary totem]

Ya so the newest LethalExpansion update broke something it seems with custom moons. Never had an issue and now after I build anything I get this error. Gameloads fine, but now no moon

TextMP has an update it seems i will try that

Welp..... It ruiend TextMesh Pro.... Updated and now no idea. Erros with building now, was fine before.

Ah this is why now..... LOL

UnityEngine.StackTraceUtility:ExtractStackTrace ()
AssetModificationProcessor:ProcessAsset (string)
AssetModificationProcessor:OnPostprocessAllAssets (string[],string[],string[],string[])
UnityEditor.AssetPostprocessingInternal:PostprocessAllAssets (string[],string[],string[],string[],string[],bool)```

Ive never included it wtf LOL

_

How do I not include the TMP scripts though

Cant even unstall it and reinstall. It needs TMP

Welp update literally destroyed it

Like why is this randomly happening

UnityEditor.BuildPipeline:BuildAssetBundles (string,UnityEditor.BuildAssetBundleOptions,UnityEditor.BuildTarget)
LethalSDK.Editor.Lethal_AssetBundleBuilderWindow:BuildAssetBundles ()
LethalSDK.Editor.Lethal_AssetBundleBuilderWindow:OnGUI ()
UnityEngine.GUIUtility:ProcessEvent (int,intptr,bool&)

6 of those now

[haughty wren]

Yeah it had "CoilHead" in the monster list and didnt recognize it. So it didnt appear

[haughty wren]

How would I go about adding my custom scrap to my moon generation and vice versa for the scrap?

[wary totem]

huh? This is regarding my own issue lmao. The lethal expansion update is not allowing my moons to work. I fixed all the errors in unity and still get the Caret error.

I dont make custom scrap no idea lol

[haughty wren]

Can you like not build the bundle?

Right as I loaded into a lobby it would send an error like: LethalExpansion could not read "CoilHead" from library, meaning moon "Reign" could not be displayed or smthn

[wary totem]

OOO

Ya after the Lethal Update for the actual mod not SDK no bundles work

Literally was building fine before

well builds worke dya

But said TextMesh error in console when loading after LethalEx update

So i updated Textmesh pro in Unity and BIG NONO. Whole project is TOAST

[haughty wren]

Hmm ive never used the text mesh for anything

just made scrap and moons

[wary totem]

400 errors because of Text Mesh crap

I dont either

The SDK uses it tho

I never use it

[haughty wren]

I dont think its used if its not in your mod folder right?

not sure why that would prevent building

[wary totem]

No no

It doesnt prevent building until after i updated it becaue of the game error in console

[haughty wren]

Oh

[wary totem]

Its not in my mod folder lol

[haughty wren]

well I would try to dig through the errors and find where it says you load into lobby

[wary totem]

I have a backup before update on my last moon. Ima revert

[haughty wren]

use his ss's

[wary totem]

Na i cant now, I messed around to much

All it was was the lethal expansion update

[haughty wren]

kinda like dig step by step to see where it stops functioning

oh

[wary totem]

Had a build fine before that

Like normal

[haughty wren]

I might have an older version then

[wary totem]

7th moon lmao

[haughty wren]

of the unity thing

hmm

[wary totem]

So sad

Ima revert and than obv update the SDK because its older

[haughty wren]

Alright

[wary totem]

Gospeed my friend

[haughty wren]

Well gl with that

[wary totem]

Just sucks. Literally just updated Lethal Expansion and boom. Textmesh errors. I cant even control that

[rich sail]

Sorry to bust in mid conversation--I'm having a plethora of weird issues and haven't a clue where to go after searching around. The "Deep" water from the prefab is Z-fighting with the upper water later, the sun/lighting isn't moving, the item dropship doesn't deploy, and the custom scrap sounds don't work (although I saw this might not be fully implemented yet?)

Also my friends can't play the map--its complaining about the lack of a mod manifest in their consoles but I'm able to load in just fine in solo

[haughty wren]

Ugm

I think everything broke for you XD

[rich sail]

Pretty much LOL

The main ship, scraps, triggers, and other things work A-okay tho

[haughty wren]

Where did you like learn to assemble it? Like did you just put it together on your own?

And did you use the template?

[rich sail]

I used the template

I even tried copy and pasting the sun and itemship prefab from the docks template too

[haughty wren]

Im not like 100 percent sure

but i think with the item ship and sun youd need to copy the entire folder they come with

like i just took the entire lighting and system folder

but if you did do that then i wouldnt be sure

[rich sail]

Like Systems/Enviornment?

[haughty wren]

No like the entire Systems thing

I cant post an ss for some reason

[rich sail]

Yeah I tried posting some images either, to no avail

Uhhhh, I guess I could try that, although they're not a whole prefab

What about the Sun?

[wary totem]

Ya u need to be part-timer or above to post images

[rich sail]

Ah okay

[haughty wren]

I want to get that then

kinda hard to visualize without them

[wary totem]

I agree

Bro im so sad.... Like all Ido is make custom moons and my project was almost done.

It hurts the heart

But got backup loaded just updatng SDK and gunna try and build and see whats up before adding aqnything

[haughty wren]

;(

I feel that

What are you making exactly?

[wary totem]

Uhh I made a bunch of moons already. I dont want to plug them here but if interested ill dm you! But ya was making a Halo moon for my 7th

Ok all updated now time to open the backup.

Im just gunna build first because I KNOW it should build, I already published this one

OK pressed build and then waiting outside for 5 min until it's done. Hopefully I come in and test it and it works. Or I cry and play Palworld

Oh My GOD. know the issue....... I deleted my project for no reason. The update somehow installed lethal core and that was on at same time as Lethal Expansion.... the CONFLICT. I never installed that HOW was it there.

[wary totem]

Hey Holo. I know you didn't make LethalExpansion Core branch ( your code still though really but de-bloated it says ) . But why do some mods have LethalCore and Expansion? Core disables Expansion anyways. I don't get it. Why the hell are people making Core a dependency. Expansion works better anyways. Core sometimes gives errors.

[crimson sorrel]

Howdy! I'm trying to move where the player ship lands, can someone help me with that?

btw @wary totem nice job on getting the Kingdom Hearts maps in haha

Recognized your name

[wary totem]

Hey hey! Thank you very much! Was that Destiny Islands by any chance? I have more maps out now! I also am going to start doing some maps that people request if I can. 🤗❤️

[wary totem]

You know what the funny thing is. I've never moved it haha. I've always moved the map around the ship and if I needed the ship "moved" I've always moved the entire map making sure not to touch the ship etc haha.

[crimson sorrel]

Thanks for the reply. Yeah, I figured this out. I'm having some new issues now haha, first map problems and all that. And yes I downloaded Destiny Islands and I love it

idk if you'd be willing to help me troubleshoot at the moment some immediate things I'm running into

[wary totem]

Hey hey. Ya we all started there bro. I had an issue today where I had to scrap the entire project and load a backup of an older map.

[placid vine]

This is hard coded in the game, you can't change it

[wary totem]

GOD.IS TYPING

God TYPED

[crimson sorrel]

wow that's bonkers haha, wonder why he did that

[wary totem]

Ya so do what I do Matt. Move map if needed around the ship.

[placid vine]

Don't tell that kind of things

[placid vine]

Because it's an engine limitation

The ship landing is based on an animation clip

[wary totem]

Wym lmao. I'm saying build map around the ship since you can't move the ship.

No way around it

[crimson sorrel]

my moon keeps getting eclipsed when i try to test 💀 i should turn that off

[wary totem]

Lmao. I turned off that yeh

No weather for my maps usually.

Also since you can't use scripts you can still move things with animations.

Works good with key framing also if you have no animation file to go with something.

[crimson sorrel]

is there a way I can accurately preview the lighting and volumes in Unity?

lighting does not* match what i get in-game

[wary totem]

Uhhh ya lethal applies the stuff over it after to get the game effect.

Inside of Unity I don't think so.

I make so many builds that it doesn't bother me really.

Because most maps have no meshes I end of checking for holes 🤣

I'm still wanting to know why some.map makers are making Core and Expansion both dependencies. To me is stupid

[crimson sorrel]

it's just bothersome that when I get it in-game that the lighting is totally blown out and super bright, but in editor it looks fine for the most part

[wary totem]

You are hitting play though right? It's roughly.close

[crimson sorrel]

in Unity?

[wary totem]

Ya sorry

[crimson sorrel]

wait a minute

wait wait wait

[wary totem]

No no no not.play game hahaha

[crimson sorrel]

i don't have to export the asset bundle every time??

[wary totem]

No no u do ya.

I mean

I hit play lol. That's just me

I'm weird. Mostly animations etc to check.

You can adjust lighting though.

I just turn it down a bit an is usually fine. But depending on material etc light from the sun will shine through anything.

[crimson sorrel]

just appears overly yellow

[wary totem]

Ya that's the color of it. Can change it

It is yellow tint ya haha

That's spot on.

It's the "kelvin" toggle

On the sun lighting

[crimson sorrel]

sometimes when loading into my map the camera cuts to somewhere on the ground outside the ship where it lands?

but when i quit and reload the map it works just fine

[wary totem]

It does? U sure u don't have a random camera placed

[crimson sorrel]

positive, and it doesn't happen everytime, so I'm hoping that it's an unrelated bug with a diff mod

[wary totem]

Hmm maybe. For me it's.usually.the map slightly loads in the ship for 1 second before the door opens and then fixes itself lmao.

Sorry new phone and I keep putting dots lmao

[crimson sorrel]

no worries i appreciate the help

got the lighting where i want it, will edit skybox later, ship is landing where i need it to

last thing is I set dogs to spawn outside and I edited the graph to ramp up later in the day but they are spawning as soon as I land

[wary totem]

I haven't tampered with amucof that haha. Not even scrap so I don't know anything on that ;/ I just docit for maps.haha

[rich sail]

I think my SDK might be totally broken somehow, but the scrap min/max values aren't matching up with the values appearing ingame. Like a min:max of 32:64 is showing up as 12

Is there some step I'm missing?

[indigo skiff]

how do you do water? like in Vow right next to the dam for example so that when it rains and starts flooding I don't have to worry about two water layers

[placid vine]

Vanilla scrap value multiplier is x0.4 for every scrap

[placid vine]

There's a component called WaterSurface

Look how the water is made in Wateridge

[indigo skiff]

gotcha, ty

[rich sail]

Ooohhh, gotcha gotcha, thank you for the clarification!

If I can bug you real quick about something else real quick--I used the template to make a map, but for some reason the sun refuses to animate, the itemdropship doesn't spawn at all, and the water sometimes works and other times doesn't

I tried copying the prefabs from your example seaport map and replacing the ones I have in the map, but those didn't fix any of the issues

Before I try gutting the map and replacing everything again, is there anything else I should check for?

[placid vine]

There's could be a plenty of reasons for all of them ^^"

Double check integrity of everything

And duplicate the template instead of working over it
Work over the copy

Work on a new mod folder too

Not in the templatemod folder

If you simply duplicate the template folder
Change names
Open the template prefab you copied and replace the plane by your entire map
Keeping everything else
It should work

[rich sail]

Okie dokie 👍 I'll give it a shot later tonight, thank ya!

[crimson sorrel]

i'm having trouble changing the time of day when dogs spawn

i edited the graph and the spawn weight and they're still spawning as early as 9am

[crimson sorrel]

i'm almost ready to push out the map

the last thing I need to do is set the item dropship location, when I drag the prefab to where I want it to land, it doesn't land there and I hear the music very far away

[placid vine]

Check if you don't have several ones

Use the unity explorer mod

And for the spawning
Check if you don't confuse the outside and the night monster graphs

[rich sail]

Oh heck, one more thing! Are custom sounds for scrap viable or is that the thing coming in the 1.4 version?

[placid vine]

custom sounds for scrap is since 1.0 :P

add the sound in the assetbank you added to your mod manifest

[rich sail]

Huh... I tried that when trying to figure it out and it didn't work :C

Do I have to find a new spawn of the scrap after adding the sounds or should it just overwrite it?

[placid vine]

i don't think so

show me what you did @rich sail

[rich sail]

I can't post images yet but I have two things named accordingly, but I did have them named the same as their sound file. For example "Item_GoldenIkura_OnGround_00.wav" is "Item_GoldenIkura_OnGround_00"

Although after changing the name I now cannot seem to compile my map anymore

Moving Temp/unitystream.unity3d to D:/Unity/LethalSDK_Project/Assets/AssetBundles/marooner's bay.lem: The system cannot find the file specified.

Is currently what I'm getting

I'm gonna try a fresh SDK install

[placid vine]

this error is because you have two files with same name

it makes a conflict

[rich sail]

Thank you thank you!! I got that fixed up

As for the sounds,

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1081378186388062280/1198670980638322728/image.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1081378186388062280/1198671075647696946/image.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1081378186388062280/1198671285622947902/image.png

The moon/planet doesn't work either

[crimson sorrel]

@placid vine I'm very sorry if this has been asked already, but will LethalSDK get an update that removes the Christmas item ship?

[placid vine]

seems to be a recent bug, wateridge orbit prefab don't work any longer neither

[placid vine]

more infos are written in changelogs

aah sorry

i read too fast, i though you was asking about the christmas village

well, you can remove it yourself and drop the custom version of the dropship in your mod's assetbank

as Network prefab

[rich sail]

Ah okay! I'll hold off on that then. What about the sound thing? Is it an assetbundle issue?

[placid vine]

No
Sounds are supposed to works

Show me your modmanifest

[rich sail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1081378186388062280/1199000818779685024/image.png

I'm gonna split the scrap off into their own mod later but I'm doing this for now just so I can test them and the map at the same time. Also the 4 duplicates of those certain scraps is because they're all supposed to be different rarities

[mighty spear]

I apologize. This has probably been asked before.

I've built the asset bundles. I want to publish this so that it can be used without adding the scrap Lethal Expansion normally adds. It's not that I dislike the scrap. It's that if people download this mod, I don't want them to wonder why there's suddenly more scrap than maybe what they had thought there would be.

How might I be able to set that up?

[indigo skiff]

did you figure it out? if not, your moon settings should have a list of spawn-able scraps where you can also blacklist those scraps from spawning as well.

[mighty spear]

Really? I'll take a look.

[mighty spear]

Where are these moon settings?

[indigo skiff]

this is where mines is, should be inside the moons folder

this is my blacklist

that should prevent all LE's scraps from spawning

[mighty spear]

I don't think I have any moons listed there. You have a custom moon in there. Is that a requirement?

[indigo skiff]

did you use TemplateMoon? it should have at least one of those :/

[mighty spear]

Yeah. I have the old Seaport. I can change this setting in the modmanifest there. I added the first custom scrap I made there

[indigo skiff]

wait so, you only made custom scraps but not moons or?

sorry got confused

[mighty spear]

I'm working on custom scrap. No moons.

[indigo skiff]

ah, those.. I am not sure.

[mighty spear]

No worries. I was also confused.

[wary totem]

With LLL becoming the next thing and you stopping LE development. Why not just allow custom scripts like LLL allows.

It really can't do any harm. Can't run that bad of code through it. It's pretty safe.

[placid vine]

Tell me how it's safe

It's impossible to scan a script from an unity bundle
Antivirus can't open them

They can open DLLs but not bindles

2 friends got fished on discord this week
I got DMs from them about, the classic "I make a game, do you want to test it ?"
But the "game" is a fishing malware
This month there's particularly a lot of fishing

I don't think the thunderstore admin (mamalama) will approve custom scripts neither
They already asked me if there was a safety on LE

[wary totem]

Ya phishing has been a thing for a while. But what does that specifically have to do with LE? The dev of LLL doesn't seemed to worried about it. We had a good talk, I just wanted your full input on the situation. I mean no harm just wondering from both sides.

[placid vine]

they don't worry about it
but i do

if it happen any time they will regreet the lack of protection

i don't want this happen in LE modules

grab a discord or steam token should be around 30 lines of code

[wary totem]

Ok thanks for explaining!

[placid vine]

it seems i was wrong
scripts can be called from bundles but they will be dummies fully blank

the script has been found on the scrap but it don't contain the fields and the output was never done

[wary totem]

Is that for LE? Ya so no code actually gets bundled right?

Makes sense ya.

[wet flume]

is there a reason why the Christmas village mod has 2 diff things?
the other isnt even selectable from what ive seen because it just defaults to the top one

[placid vine]

Because you write with spaces

[placid vine]

There's no space in a console command

Write it without spaces

[wet flume]

ah

whats the diffrence anyways

does no time just make the time not pass

[placid vine]

Yes

[exotic silo]

Hello, is it possible to do with Lethal Expansion SDK a scrap item that is like the robot that plays a loop sound when it's picked up?

[placid vine]

not natively
but you can now create your custom scripts if you want

[placid vine]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/HolographicWings/LethalExpansion_Preview/

I released this as a Preview channel for LE.
Theres some changes in the 1.3.26 that require testing in multiplayer.
Testing focus :

• Compatibility with LLL.
• Host/client settings sync.
• No crash with low end computers on moons using terrain.
• Setting to hide the ModSetting menu button.
• Press O in main menu to show the ModSetting menu when the button is hidden.
  don't use both LE and LE Preview in same time obviously.

[rich sail]

Hope you don't mind me asking, but is there any knowledge or support for moons having custom animations when you fly in and away from'em? I got a mod that illuminates them properly and noticed they have at least 3 anims o:

Also I ended up getting the map and custom sounds working! I moved them all into a new project and after some testing, it turns out the SDK was not happy with me having its folder named "Marooner's Bay", but having "Marooners Bay" works A-okay

[placid vine]

you mean the ship take-off animation ?

[rich sail]

No like on the monitors when you're in orbit

The "SpaceSunShine" mod shows the planets/moons in orbit. They move when approaching, departing, and when you're leaving the planet and returning to orbit

It's like never visible ingame

Or maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, if so I apologize

[exotic silo]

I'm getting this error out of a sudden when compiling with my Lethal Expansion SDK project just after finishing some scrap. It translates to:

''Moving Temp/unitystream.unity3d to...''

''System could not find specific file''

Any clue of what's happening?

yesterday it was compiling without any issues

[exotic silo]

Been trying multiple things and no luck, I tried the following things:

• Restarted Unity
• Restarted PC
• Tried compiling with less assets, or even one,
• Copying the files into a new fresh SDK
• Checked every single asset in case there are any errors

[rich sail]

It's a really vague error but it basically means you have a filename conflict--if you check your console it'll tell you what files are conflicting

[placid vine]

Lethal Expansion do that too, beware to compatibility

And yes
The SDK support custom moon orbit prefab

But not custom animations
You can add a custom animation to your moon orbit prefab tho
I can tweak LE tomorrow to don't add the animator if it is already added

[placid vine]

Conflict in file names

Read the console of unity

[rich sail]

That's great to know! I'll definitely experiment with that a lil bit, thank ya so much

[placid vine]

another preview version
1.3.27
Testing focus :

• Custom moon orbit prefab animations.
• Coil head agro on non-host.

[placid vine]

you can test on the preview 1.3.27, otherwise your animation will be overwritten

[exotic silo]

Yep that was it... thanks to both of you for the info!

[lofty wharf]

hi

does anyone know the sounds for the Grab and Drop SFX for scraps

[placid vine]

They are all written on the SDK page

[lofty wharf]

okay

[lofty wharf]

and how can I add a custom whoopie cushion sound

[placid vine]

Add the sound in the asset bank of your mod

[lofty wharf]

Okay

Then what

That’s it?

[placid vine]

Well then define the sound in the scrap

[lofty wharf]

Okay

So I should change the scrap type to whoopie cushion and add the audio below it?

[placid vine]

Yes

[exotic silo]

After making around 30 of scrap my SDK project file instantly crashes when I click on compile

Any idea of what it could be?

[exotic silo]

Copying the assets to a fresh sdk fixed it... Dunno how the original project got corrupted

[placid vine]

remove the Library folder if happen again

[exotic silo]

Also, custom items that are shovels when I click to attack it doesn't play any animation (but the sound does play). How can I make an item play the animation of hitting?

[placid vine]

do you use two handed animation ?

[exotic silo]

nope, normal 1 hand

[placid vine]

made it two handed

i don't think the one handed animation is made for it

[exotic silo]

okay, ty

[rich sail]

Real quick, is it possible for alternate scrap meshes and materials to work on skinned mesh renderers?

[placid vine]

dunno, i never used skinned mesh renderers

[rich sail]

Ah okie! Yeah by default they don't seem to get overridden so I was curious if there was a workaround or somethin'

[lofty wharf]

@placid vine Is there anyway i can remove this Fog effect?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1190545067597901884/1199952898981904415/923-685.mp4?ex=65cda4b9&is=65bb2fb9&hm=6f3257855258db8f2a25ed3ab42d474639f1a4798f1f8f1cb2e0195f738d6701&

[maiden mountain]

find your "sky and fog global volume" item and in the right, at the very bottom, there should be a fog setting

you could either tick it off like this, or adjust the setting to your liking

[lofty wharf]

I turned it off already

[maiden mountain]

ah good!

[lofty wharf]

Still doesn’t do anything 😔

[maiden mountain]

oh, thats weird then

[lofty wharf]

Does it fix it for you?

[maiden mountain]

i didnt tick it off cuz i still wanted fog, but i reduced the settings for it

have you also ticked off this one?

[lofty wharf]

Idk why I don’t even know if it’s a fog

[lofty wharf]

Yep

[maiden mountain]

hmmmm, thats pretty strange

[lofty wharf]

I tried everything on my own

That’s why I’m askin someone who might know

[maiden mountain]

you could try maybe setting the volume size to 0x0x0

for "localvolumetricfog"

[lofty wharf]

I did too

It’s so weird

[maiden mountain]

that is weird

[lofty wharf]

It really is

[maiden mountain]

not sure what the fix is then, sorry about that

[lofty wharf]

No problem. Glad you atleast tried!

[maiden mountain]

the last thing i could think might be the issue, would be if you didn't redo the prefab after adjusting the settings, but i imagine you would've done that

[placid vine]

Unfortunately not
When no weather, the dustcloud is automatically added
I would have to edit the weather system, I haven't dove in it yet

It's not fog
It's the dustcloud weather effect

[lofty wharf]

Okay, would you do it tho?

[lofty wharf]

Yeah

[placid vine]

Dunno
I work on other projects, I almost only hotfix LE
Two peoples took LE for continuation

[lofty wharf]

Oh

Damn

[placid vine]

I will still work on it a bit sometimes for additions
But not crunch as I did

[lofty wharf]

👍

Is there anything that I can do to atleast lower it down

It’s pretty annoying

[placid vine]

No I'm sorry
It's hard coded in vanilla

[lofty wharf]

Okay :/

[placid vine]

It will not be as simple as disable it
Because it's the intended behaviour of the vanilla moons
There's something like
If current weather is none, enable the dust cloud

[green beacon]

I'm not sure what I did wrong. I tried opening the LethalSDK using Unity 2022.3.9f1 and nothing is rendering

It also shows 999+ errors in the console even though I didn't do anything yet

The scene view is not rendering anything in the unity editor

[green beacon]

@placid vine

I think I fixed the errors in the console but the scene view is still not rending

[placid vine]

show me the root of the project folder

[placid vine]

show me inside of Assets, Packages and ProjectSettings

[placid vine]

weird

you use the proper unity version ?

[placid vine]

try a fresh install of the project

[green beacon]

I did

I just installed it again

[placid vine]

show me inside LethalSDK_Project\Assets\Settings

[placid vine]

all seems fine

errors fixed but still see nothing ?

[green beacon]

I tried making an HDRP project and that works fine but this project doesn't :c

[green beacon]

Mhm

[placid vine]

what happen if you disable the light bulb icon ?

[green beacon]

Scene view is just a gray void

[green beacon]

Nothing

[placid vine]

and what happen if you open the scene called SceneBuilder ?

at the root of the project

[green beacon]

It still doesn't render anything

[placid vine]

try to disable all theses checks

[green beacon]

Nothing changes

[placid vine]

if you change the render to wireframe

do you see the wireframe of the scenebuilder ?

[green beacon]

I tried that already

[placid vine]

and does the wireframe shows ?

[placid vine]

open the HDRP Wizard

and show me the HDRP Tab

[green beacon]

I see something that looks like a problem

[placid vine]

don't click on fix

[green beacon]

Assigned - Graphics

Okay

I won't

[placid vine]

open the project settings

in Edit tab, top of Unity

[green beacon]

Okie

[placid vine]

and show me the following tabs :

• Graphics
• Graphics > HDRP Global Settings
• Quality
• Quality > HDRP

[green beacon]

Where?

[placid vine]

the two others ones too

Graphics and Quality

[placid vine]

that's the same tab

[green beacon]

What tab?

[placid vine]

↑

theses 4 ones

[green beacon]

I see

[placid vine]

here we have the issue

should be this one

[green beacon]

Okie

[placid vine]

how did you fixed the script errors ?

[green beacon]

Idk, I created a AssetBundles folder in Assets

And I built the asset bundles

[placid vine]

i must understand why it haven't took this profile by default

[green beacon]

Do I click Save to asset.. ?

[placid vine]

i don't think it's needed

it still don't show anything ?

[green beacon]

Nope

I even tried reloading the project

[placid vine]

well, return on the HDRP Wizard and click on fix

[placid vine]

uh...

show me the scene again

[green beacon]

\

I double clicked on Environment to make sure it's in focus and still nothing

[placid vine]

remove the entire project folder

and join me in Modding Voice, show me a screenshot of how do you run the project

i'll write you in the written channel of Modding VOice

[green beacon]

Okay

[green beacon]

If anyone is having the same issue, create a new HDRP Unity project and copy over the ProjectSettings, Packages, and Assets folder into the new project. It seems to have worked for now.

[wooden vessel]

I don't know if you've already been told, but the latest version of LLL is not compatible with LethalExpansion. At least atm

[placid vine]

do you use LECore ?

the new entrances of LE are not implemented in LECore yet

some peoples had an issue with the combo of LE, LECore and LLL

in that specific case, only LE and LLL works well together

[wooden vessel]

Is there a way to disable the LE ModMenu values entirely?
I have a mod that modify some of the values that Modifies some of the values ​​that the LE menu mod has, and I would not want there to be possible conflicts

[placid vine]

it may conflict with the host settings thing
i especially made compatibility patches simplest as possible
another dev just need 5 minutes to do it

https://github.com/HolographicWings/LethalExpansion/pull/105/commits/9756aaf0406efb87e5c851bbd818e4223496ec51

exemple of the dev of another mod who did a compatibilty patch for his mod in 3 lines

[wooden vessel]

Hmm. I'd have to talk with the dev of the mod

[placid vine]

show them the commit
or even simpler, ask them what booleans to disable and i'll do it
here the list : https://github.com/HolographicWings/LethalExpansion/blob/main/LethalExpansion/LethalExpansion.cs#L729

[wooden vessel]

It will be hard...

It's AdvancedCompany...

[placid vine]

arf

this mod add an huge amount of things

[wooden vessel]

Yep

[placid vine]

tell to the dev they should dm me to talk about the different bugs if we want to fix all the incompatibilities

their mod is not opensource, will be complicated

[wooden vessel]

And I have no option to remove it, it is as a direct reference so that the logo of my modpack can appear (it was hard)

[wooden vessel]

But they have a github to list the issues, maybe there you can contact to him

I can give you the Link if you like

[placid vine]

i found it

[wooden vessel]

kk

Good luck!

[placid vine]

but honestly i'm a bit lazy about investigating on this huge mod...
i don't longer work actively on LE, i only do hotfixes

i'm open to work with them on a mutual compatibility patch and change things in LE to make the things more compatible if they come
but i need error logs to know what to change

their mod is not open source so it's their responsibility to investigate first on what could be incompatible and tell me what cause this
i don't want to spy and decompile their code

[wooden vessel]

I may help with that, giving you the error logs, but it would be tomorrow

[placid vine]

okay

[wooden vessel]

I get it

[wooden vessel]

List of conflicting values between LethalExpansion and AdvancedCompany

• MapSizeMultiplier: AC comes with an internal configuration that allows me to edit the size of the dungeon for each moon, including custom moons.
• ScrapAmountMultiplier: AC comes with an internal configuration that allows me to edit the Scrap amount for each moon and per weather, including custom moons.
• ScrapValueMultiplier: AC comes with an internal configuration that allows me to edit the Scraap value multiplier for each moon, per weather and globally, including custom moons.
• StartingCredits: AC comes with an internal configuration that allows me to edit the Starting Quota for each new save
• MoonPriceMultiplier: AC comes with an PERK that allows me to get a percentage discount when purchasing moons for each level increased.
• GlobalTimeSpeedMultiplier: AC comes with an internal configuration that allows me to edit the Global Time Speed for each new save. (It may also affect the NumberOfHours Value)

And this iss the log when you just load the game until you enter the main menu.

And this is the only error message I got

[placid vine]

perfect thanks

[placid vine]

@wooden vesseldone a 1.3.35 with a compatibility patch

[wooden vessel]

I'll be testing it when it's avaliable!

Thank you so much!

[placid vine]

i can't fix this error

they get all external DLLs and patch them in a savage way, i can't avoit it

[wooden vessel]

testiing the update rn!

Hmm, It seems that LLL doesn't show the LE moons
but It can be written

Oof, forget it, it don't work (I assume it's LLL but showing here in case)

everytime I confirm, this error shows up

Complete Log (on a large modpack)

[wooden vessel]

a little bit more testing
I downgraded LLL to 1.0.7 and...

I can pick infernis and confirm now

but when landing

[wooden vessel]

But, when changing on LECore and the LLL v1.0.7, it loads correctly

[wooden vessel]

Ok, some good news, the Latest version of LLL (v1.1.4) now loads the LE custom moons (Through LECore, I need to try the latest version of LE)

[wooden vessel]

I regret to report that it still does not detect custom Moons using the latest version of LE and LLL
It does not matter if LegacyMoonLoading is activated or not.

[maiden mountain]

hi! i wanted to point out that it seems like the latest version of LethalExpansion (v1.3.36) is causing an unique issue to custom moons. vanilla moons seem to be fine in regards to it.

there's this weird pink floating square above the moons, and the ship is always at it's destination position, but invisible, and not interactable. when trying to order equipment, nothing seems to happen. im not sure if this is something my custom moons are causing, or just a bug in the mod itself, but i figured i'd point this out.

[placid vine]

Missing material on the sun ?

Check the sun and eclipse materials

[maiden mountain]

oh i think it might be cuz the moon was exported on an older version of the sdk (v.1.3.19)

since the moon is working fine on other versions of lethalexpansion before 1.3.36

[maiden mountain]

ok yeah, switched my project files to the latest sdk version, seems to be working fine now

[maiden mountain]

@placid vine hey, sorry for the ping, i hope im not bothering.

i was wondering if it would be possible to have a scrap spawn outside the moon? for example, i make a custom moon and place a "Cog1" scrap in a specific spot, and it's always gonna be there when the player lands on the moon, and somewhere else i place a "battery" which is also gonna be at that same spot.

i concepted an idea of a moon that could have some parts on the outside where the player could go to find some scrap that wouldn't be otherwise inside the building itself, and the catch is that there would be certain threats that the player would avoid to collect those, like spike traps and such.

a very rough example of the idea that i had. i actually even attempted to just place a scrap prefab in a moon and try to grab it, but i guess it doesnt have the data like its value and such when its spawned like this, so it didnt work

[placid vine]

i think you already can

use the network object instancer

[maiden mountain]

ohhh okay, ill try putting this to practice once i have the time then, thank you!

[rich sail]

Sorry to bother ya once again with my wacky issues, but this should be the last ideally. I tweaked my map's "Sky and Fog Global Volume" settings to look like how it does in the first screenshot, but when I compile the map it looks like the standard prefab's setup, even when I completely turn off settings like the volumetric clouds or set them to be disabled.

[rich sail]

Actually one last thing, apologies, is it possible to edit the item dropship entity and the sun's animations without them breaking?

[dire bobcat]

hit clone on the right when you have the volume selected in the hierarchy. Double-click on it and drag it into your mod's folder

[rich sail]

Oh my gosh I feel like a dunce, thank you so much! Would you also happen to know anything about potentially tweaking the sun and item ship prefab?

[dire bobcat]

I dont know

[placid vine]

The prefab is in the LethalExpansion module, you can't edit anything from it
You must create a new one

[placid vine]

You can edit them yes
You must create a new prefab and register it in the asset bank aoaf your mod for the item dropship

[cunning tulip]

Is it possible to have an interact trigger activate an animation (like the door on experimentation). I’m able to get it working client side but can’t figure out how to sync it with other players.

[wooden vessel]

Sadly still having this issue.
On normal LE, we can't see the LE Moons

We can type it, but we have this

And pressing confirm, it doesn't nothing and we get this error message

[placid vine]

https://youtu.be/Pb2Qy1Z6360

[short loom]

For some reason my custom moon takes 2 days off of the quota days left. From starting at 3 days to 1 after leaving the moon. Is there something I'm overlooking?

[wooden vessel]

Do you have any other mod besides this?

[placid vine]

Did you changed the time scale of the moon ?

[silk void]

@placid vine btw, i just put out biggerlobby 2.7.0 which fixes the chat patch
as far as I know that should have been the only incompatibility

idk if you have a way to do per-mod-version incompatibility ratings or not

[placid vine]

no, it would be a mess to manage x3

but i can change the compatibility rating if you say they fully work now

[silk void]

i'm not super familiar with lethalexpansion but it didn't seem desynced in a 5 player local lobby

definitely not spamming networking in the chat like the last version

[placid vine]

sesync was a risk, but doesn't happen if every players in the lobby keeps the default settings

by exemple if the host changed the dungeon size setting

the setting wasn't synced though host and clients, so they didn't has the same dungeon

and the entrances are resynced though the chat too, i struggle to mess with the unity netcode >_>, so without the chat sync, all entrances would keep the entrance ID to 0

[silk void]

hmm, does the syncing not work in LAN
the map size desync actually happens for me whether or not i have biggerlobby installed

[placid vine]

it is supposed to work, i do all my network tests in lan

if it work, you may see in logs something begins and ends with [Sync]

i just done a 1.3.39 version, some changes and updated the compatibility rank in it

[fickle obsidian]

When used with LLL it seems that on some moons the weather is not the same for all players any tips ? I also use lethal expansion core if that makes any difference

[placid vine]

it's hard to explain, but yes, new moons can desync the weathers

if a client try to get the weathers of all moons before the modded moons are added, well, the result will be different

LE is supposed to resync the weather
i advice you to temporarly disable LECore while it is outdated, it disable the LE Network Sync system

tell me if using only LE and LLL fix the issue

[fickle obsidian]

Idk about anymore but before when using only LE and LLL none of the new moons showed up in the terminal will try again tonight (this is why I checked only use core) and it fixed them showing up in terminal.

[short loom]

Yeah I lowered it to make the day longer, does it need to stay at 1 ?

[placid vine]

it's normal then, vanilla issue

[rich sail]

I apologize for bugging ya again, but I've been trying to make some of the custom scrap only spawn on my custom map, and the others be able to spawn elsewhere. I've been tinkering with some of the spawn values, but "Others" doesn't seem to work. I've tried setting it to 100 and loading on a separate testing map with no vanilla scrap spawns and I can't get it to show up

I also set Experimentation to 100 for testing purposes and that worked just fine

[rich sail]

I tried messing with the map's Spawnable Scrap weights as well but those don't seem to recognize custom scrap?

[placid vine]

make it don't spawn at all, then add your scrap to your moon

do the reverse

[rich sail]

Like so?

Will the map scrap values override the scrap weights if I make one have a global spawn rate? Like for instance if I want one to have a global weight of 10, but on the map its like 35

[placid vine]

yes

both apply

not overwrite

so you must put it in the scrap itself

Others 10
your map 35

[rich sail]

I tried experimenting with that earlier and they didn't end up spawning in any other maps

Lemme try again

[rich sail]

It all worked without a hitch!! I guess I accidentally had the global spawns turned on initially or somethin'. Thank you so much for all the help

[rich sail]

Oh heck wait, I had the global thing checked on--"Others" isn't working

This is the setup. I even tried it with only "Others" and this item being in the moon but that didn't seem to work either

[quasi summit]

Is there a way to add a audio trigger to an object?
As in when player enters objects vicinity(enters trigger box) it makes a sound?
or maybe periodically make noise like the land mines but stops when picked up?

[placid vine]

you can use the Damage Player, it have an event
just disable the damages

i'm unsure it will work, but you could try

but it will be clientside only, network in unity is pain and i don't understand a shit in it

[quasi summit]

Thankies I'll give it a try

[fickle obsidian]

Does the new version of expanstion work with the new level loader? or no?

Any tips on trying to get new interiors working with lethal expansion and lethal level loader and have the new moons show up in terminal?

[placid vine]

For now they are just fundamentally incompatibles
I need to rewrite a good part of the mod
I hesitate about wait for batby to make a good migration guide or converter and deprecate LE
I will make an announcement about it

[lofty wharf]

Does anyone know how I can make a moon always be at night

[lofty wharf]

Also can you add outside ambience sound

Whenever I do it plays inside the dungeon

I’m trying to make it play only on the outside

[lofty wharf]

Can you update an existing project to a newer LethalSDK update

[placid vine]

edit the direct and indirect lights
look at the christmas village, it's always night

[placid vine]

i didn't added this feature, and i don't longer work actively on the SDK i'm sorry
i only do hotfixes and tiny updates

[placid vine]

the entrance audio preset ID must be 2 irrc
look at the entrances of the template

[placid vine]

overwrite it

beware to the SceneBuilder scene, if you overwrite it, well, you overwrite it

[timber gyro]

will sdk work with expansion?

i keep getting these errors, and assume its telling me to download sdk

@placid vine

[placid vine]

Outdated expansion ?

@timber gyro

Send me full logs, I'll read them later

[timber gyro]

how do i get logs?

[timber gyro]

having core and expansion in my pack seems to have fixed this issue

but muhc longer load time

[placid vine]

this is core, it's not my mod
core too much different to provide support

core is outdated and need an update, LethalSDK.Editor.TerrainChecker is actually atually from LE 1.3.30

Core is equivalent to 1.3.22

[lofty wharf]

Please update LE to v50

[uneven fable]

PLEASEEEEEEEE

i need wateridge back

[short loom]

Is there an resource for porting a LE map to LLL?

[lofty wharf]

Yes