Lethal Expansion and SDK

[queen spire]

sorry this might be a stupid question but what is the easiest way of checking how my item looks in the game? I set item spawn rate to max and looked around and can't find it, is there an easier way?

[queen spire]

I set it to use global spawn weight and I set that to 100, then I upped the spawn rate of scrap using a mod but my scrap does not appear, is there something else that could be not configured correctly?

[placid vine]

it's a no ponderous spawn weight, not a spawn rate
100 mean it will be priorized against the other scraps when a scrap will spawn
but the amount of scraps will remain the same
theres a setting to change the global amount of scrap that will spawn in main menu

the UnityExplorer can be helpful to check if your scrap spawned

[queen spire]

I see. I did change the amount of scrap that spawned and this is what I saw, none of these scrap are my custom one. I will try using unityexplorer next

[placid vine]

read the console to see if your scraps are loaded

[queen spire]

👍

[sharp imp]

quick question, would it be possible to make a scrap item with an interact? (like for example the clown horn or airhorn) trying to make a scrap which makes a noise when you interact with it, however idk if thats possible with lethalsdk

[mossy galleon]

guys, how do i go to christmas village no time? i can't route to it

when i type that it just sends me to christmas village normal

[placid vine]

not yet
it's one of the planned things for the future

[placid vine]

christmasvillagenotime

like a normal terminal, never add spaces except to separate a command and a parameter

[mossy galleon]

okay

also is there any command or something to get unstuck? i got stuck after leaving from the fire exit between some ice rocks

[placid vine]

no

if you get stuck somewhere in a path made to be used, show me a screenshot

[steep copper]

does christmas village no time just not do the day cycle

[placid vine]

yes

so no mobs neither

[sharp imp]

ah alright, cool :)

[steep copper]

ah okok ty

[queen spire]

do I need anything more than this in my plugins folder to load this template mod?

[placid vine]

no, you need LE too

LE's DLL and LEM

[queen spire]

ah I see

ok, I got it to load! thank you for the help

[placid vine]

but the template require oldseaport and christmasvillage that contain assets

[queen spire]

yes I understand, I managed to get the template working as a test and then removed it to try and load my custom scrap

and it worked!

[knotty dawn]

Im having trouble exporting maps. I keep getting error like this.

Honestly I am a unity noob like i started using this yesterday but i really wanna learn how to do this if anyone can explain like step by step what to do. I find the instructions on thunderstore unclear or not noob friendly lol

Ive tried many things and have come to the conclusion i have no idea wtf im doing and may need some help navigating all this

[placid vine]

you have several files with same name in the project

read the console of Unity for more details

[knotty dawn]

Im restarting from scratch.

I basically just want to turn this into a playable map. With 1 fire exit and a main door.

https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/3d/environments/urban/colonial-city-littlepack-163089

[placid vine]

just beware to don't have two files with same name

[knotty dawn]

Ok i will let you know if I have any issues.

[knotty dawn]

ok just to make sure i am doing this correctly... I have imported the above link into Unity after opening the SDK. It is in the Assets folder.

Ive also duplicated the TemplateMod folder and renamed it "Outpost" -- I've also changed the name in the manifest file.

What would I want to do next?

Should I open this imported scene? or just add everything from the Colonial City folder to my mod folder? Sorry if i sound like a dumb ass ive never used unity but have a bit of experience with blender

[drifting laurel]

My mod is coming back with the issue of "Your mod has no mod manifest" can someone help?

[placid vine]

Show me a screenshot of the manifest of your mod

[placid vine]

Don't rename it

[drifting laurel]

Oh damn, ty

Had 0 idea that was the issue.. lol

[placid vine]

I will add an inspector error if renamed

[drifting laurel]

Sweet, this will help newer mod creators

[steep copper]

i cannot figure out how to get back to the ship from the campfire fire exit, any tips?

on christmas map ^^

[placid vine]

There's an exit to the cave

But you need a flashlight

[steep copper]

wel yea

but i get out the cave and im parkouring on icebergs or smthn and idk where to go and i usually fall and die cua the fog is so bad down there

[placid vine]

I must optimize the rocky path to make it easier

But there's only one way on theses rocks

[steep copper]

if i could do it once i feel like i could consistently do it but ive yet to figure out the path

[placid vine]

https://github.com/HolographicWings/LethalExpansion/issues/51

This is exactly what make me hate the modding

[floral egret]

mf really wrote a thesis about this

it's too passive aggressive to even qualify as criticism

[ancient wedge]

Will we be able to enable the christmas village after it's removed by default next week?

[steep copper]

bunch a bs especially abt waterridge, waterridge has such character and the small size is a double edged sword bc it makes getting back to the ship dangerous with what spawns like what 😭

[placid vine]

yes, it will be in an independent mod

i plan a version without the giftboxes too

[dire bobcat]

Hahahah lol. This guy has too much time on his hands. He needs to calm down.

[cobalt relic]

Do you think the SDK will allow making custom facilities just like the factory or the mansion at some point ? That would be insane

[restive eagle]

imagine being that guy jfc

[placid vine]

planned

but not yet

[unborn panther]

Hello! I have followed the tutorial but am getting a error when i go to build the asset bundles.
Any idea whats wrong?

Oh just fixed it, apparently the issue was i accidentally had a duplicated texture with the same name as a existing one.

[placid vine]

yes ^^

duplicated file name

[jolly rivet]

Heyo, it was a lot to read here but do you happen to know how to fix why my save starts off with the same weather across all moons? It seems to be using the same seeding system across all moons if I had to guess.

We were wondering what was going on and why we kept having the same weather so we disabled it and it changed the weather through process of elimination

[unborn panther]

Got everything working! This works wonderfully! I was having strange bugs and issues when i initially attempted to make a mod using Lethal Lib so having everything work out of the box so smoothly is wonderful! Thank you very much for working on this project

[quick drift]

A fix for this should have been merged already. They might not have pushed an update yet?

(If you're using Lethal Expansion)

I don't touch vanilla moons with my #1174039957640319026 mod

[placid vine]

it's vanilla
seed when creating a new save is always 0

ah, same weather for all moon ?

it's not chance ?

[quick drift]

The weather isn't the same for all moons in that image, though

[random tusk]

bro how can I add custom items with this sdk? Any wiki or something?

@placid vine @still osprey

[placid vine]

look how the template is made

duplicate the template folder, rename it and work over it

[random tusk]

alright

[steep copper]

how does wateridge compare lootwise to titan bc i feel like they r pretty even matched but wateridge has more enemies

[jolly rivet]

Unfortunately we just restarted and it's still the same lol

[short granite]

Does anyone know how to make the rain not go inside? I can't find out how. Any help would be appreciated

[dire bobcat]

Set it to 2

[quick drift]

You're using more than just this mod though. I see LC_API and probably some others that rely on that API. It's hard to pinpoint issues if there's multiple other mods at work.

[solar cape]

Okay I have no clue what I'm going wrong with

everything seems fine?

[scarlet scaffold]

Hey @placid vine , first off great work on the sdk, for a complete noob like me it's one of the best tools to learn modding. I have 1 slight question. I canmot find the vanilla assets nor can I find a way to add a sound to when I hold one of my custom scraps. Do you have an idea on how I would be able to make it happen?

[placid vine]

Remove the camera

Oh my bad the camera isn't in the prefab

What is the issue?

[solar cape]

module loads but not the scrap itself

is never initalized

[placid vine]

You added the scrap to the modmanifest?

[solar cape]

yep, 3rd image

[placid vine]

The list of sound names is on the mod website
The SDK don't share the vanilla sounds
LE get a reference for them in realtime

[placid vine]

Sorry on phone the 3rd isn't showed

[solar cape]

thats fair dw

[placid vine]

What is written in logs ?

Send me logs, will be simpler

[scarlet scaffold]

Is there a location in the sdk where I could import some of the vanilla assets to have a reference or?

[placid vine]

Which assets you want to import ?

[scarlet scaffold]

Something like the dentures maybe?

[placid vine]

Well, while you credit zeekerss in the mod description you can add some assets

But all grab and drop sounds are already refered

[scarlet scaffold]

Okok if for exemple I wanted to use the denture asset as a base for modded scraps I can import it as well? What would be the process of importing it (sorry that I have a lot of questions)

[placid vine]

It's just a mesh, drop it in unity

But you'll have to ask someone else how to get this asset

[scarlet scaffold]

Okok perfect x) thanks!

[solar cape]

how do I do that?

[placid vine]

on the mod page theres a guide about logs

[short granite]

Thanks it worked great although when I leave the facility the rain goes away outside

[short granite]

actually i think its just a lethal expansion bug

[scarlet scaffold]

Ok so I've given up on using the denture as a base. I managed to get the asset but the scripts weren't linked to it. Do you guys know of a way to put sounds or music on a scrap once you have it picked up? I found a couple of scripts that seem to be used for that particular reason but it doesn't seem to work lol

[placid vine]

It's not supported yet

[scarlet scaffold]

fair enough X) Thanks Holo! you've been a great help 🙂

[waxen idol]

@placid vine Can we get a higher amount of qouta as an option before the days get added. Even at 1000 qouta per day gained, it's a bit too easy. We're able to easily maintain qouta and above at the current rate of 1 day per 1000 qouta.

6 days to get 3000 is just way too many days. And the config only allows up to 1000. If you could cap that at 9999 or even 5000 as a max qouta per day given, that'd be perfect.

[placid vine]

A cap of 5000 will be insane to choose with precision with the slider
And text fields don't work for some reasons
But I'll increase to 3000 to be reasonable for now

I can forget, don't hesitate to ping me again if it's not done at next update

[placid vine]

i forgot xC
i just released a 1.3.7 and urgent 1.3.8 but forgot to change the cap

[short granite]

am i able to add a separate dll and then have custom scripts on the moon?

[placid vine]

no
for safety reasons it's nor allowed

[short granite]

ah ok thx

[short granite]

is there any way i can add custom scripts or no?

[placid vine]

no

i try to find a safe way

i don't plan to allow it untill a safe way is found

you can send me a script i could read and implement it if it's safe tho

but i'll do that kind of requests from junuary

[short granite]

alr i made a moon based off the water planet in interstellar and my friend suggested on adding the big waves. didnt rlly know if i could do that without custom scripts

[placid vine]

i don't think you can

[short granite]

yeah

[placid vine]

you could make your own water mechanic with interract trigger and damage player scripts that already are in the SDK tho

with a bit of HUD and sound effects to make an underwater effect

but to push the player it will be a bit more complicated

[short granite]

i dont think theres going to be an easy way other than manual checks

[short granite]

ah ok ill see what i can do with that

[queen spire]

is there a list of spawn weights for the default items (to use for comparison)?

https://lethal-company.fandom.com/wiki/Scrap
I can see the min/max values here but not the spawn weights

[coral flume]

Expansion breaks support for mods so often it's super

[placid vine]

the default value provided when you create a new moon is the values of Experimentation

they are different for every vanilla moons

[placid vine]

what do you mean ?

[queen spire]

sorry, I meant for the scrap

like when I'm setting weights for the scrap is there somewhere where I can see what weights the default scrap have

[placid vine]

what do you mean by default ?

[queen spire]

I mean default scrap as in the screw, v-type engine, large axle, etc.

[placid vine]

i told you

when you create a new moon it's the values of Experimentation

[queen spire]

ok nevermind, I will just try different weights out and see what works best

sorry, I don't think I can explain what I mean properly

but it's ok

[placid vine]

the default weight of scraps

[queen spire]

yeah but I'm not making a moon I'm making a new scrap

[placid vine]

and, it's not same ?

when you create a new moon you can see the default weight of scraps of experimentation

but they are different on every moon

[queen spire]

I was wondering if there is a list of scraps and their weights somewhere so I can see what they are to compare with what I'm setting on my new scrap in this section here

for example
screw:
experimentation: 10
assurance: 12
vow: 8
etc.

[placid vine]

so you want to default of one specific scrap on every moon

[queen spire]

yeah

[placid vine]

the best think would be to use the UnityExplorer to get theses values

otherwise someone else may answer you

[queen spire]

ok, thanks 👍

any idea which file the values would be under?

[placid vine]

TerminalScript → the list of the moons

[queen spire]

👍

thank you for your help

[placid vine]

but will be long to get

the other method is ripping but it's cousin to piracy so i can't detail about it

[queen spire]

I see

[queen spire]

how do the min/max price work? is the scan value dependant on anything apart from that? because I set the min of my scrap to 50 and max to 75 and when I scan them in game I'm getting values of 20, 21, 25, 28 (this on day 1, on experimentation)

[placid vine]

"ScrapValueMultiplier", 0.4f

vanilla scrap value is 0.4

[queen spire]

ah I see

does that change based on planet and whatever or it's just 0,4 the whole time

[placid vine]

it's 0.4 whole time

[queen spire]

👍

ok thank you

[scarlet scaffold]

Ok so I might sound really dumb rn, but I made an item and when I pick it up it appears higher than it's supposed to. Any idea how to fix it?

[placid vine]

it's the offsets

[scarlet scaffold]

thanks, I feel so dumb rn

[wet flume]

Is there any reason why uhh an api adds content and a settings menu for tweaking the game?

The extra content is cool and being able to tweak things is nice but it feels really weird for a mod to do all 3 and not be able to configure any of it off

Could genuinely be 3 separate mods

[queen spire]

you can remove the extra content by deleting the 3 original .lem files in the modules folder, and your custom content will still load

idk if you can disable the settings menu

[wet flume]

Requires anybody I play with to have to manually do this too can get a little annoying

[queen spire]

hm yeah you're right. maybe the templatemod should be a seperate thing from the actual sdk

[wet flume]

Or atleast be off by default and enabled via a config

[sick pier]

Why are custom scripts not allowed?

[royal pine]

any way to change the ultra bright mod menu?

[cobalt relic]

Is this mod the one that adds christmas stars who cost like 300 ? I'm not sure

[nimble pine]

Should be

Inside the mods folder is a .lem file named christmasvillage, it adds a new moon and several Christmas themed items if im not wrong

[royal pine]

yea it adds cookies candycanes and the desired star

[waxen idol]

@placid vine Checking to see if you raised the cap. You looked to maybe have remembered? Lol. Thank you much! I never used the slider for it, I've always edited to cfg directly. So I had no idea about it. 3000 should be more than enough, but I'll let you know.

[placid vine]

I must make it orange lol

[royal pine]

my eyes hate me

[placid vine]

It's 300 but it's 1/300 chance to spawn

[royal pine]

my friend found it yesterday lol

was awesome

[short granite]

it can be dangerous. hard to find malicious code

[sick pier]

wouldnt they just get around it

[short granite]

idk 🤷‍♂️

almost all mods use custom scripts so idk why dangerous code is main reason

[sick pier]

it just seems redundant since were already modding which is breaking eulas and tos, and its modding why limit it

the whole point is to add stuff so why limit what you can add

[short granite]

also modding is automatically dangerous wherever game u go to. people modding should be paying attention to what they are downloading

[placid vine]

because you are not on the LC moddign discord
you are not aware of the amount of malwares that was made in the thunderstore this month

System.Data and System.IO are the definition itself of a malware

• EULA breaking yes

so i can't let peoples import their own scripts in scraps and moons

[short granite]

this is the same for all modding communities. malware is going to be a thing. people modding their games have to be aware of it. the whole point of modding is to add custom stuff and not be restricted

[placid vine]

you can talk about this to mama llama on the modding discord if you want

i'll not allow custom scripts while i don't find any way to analyze them

[short granite]

ok, i have a suggestion, you can have people making their items have a github repo with their custom scripts and assets so its easy to analyze

[sick pier]

theres always malware

its the internet of all places

if people are smart enough to make malicious code dont you think theyd know how to get around a component.GetType() check

[placid vine]

in junuary i'll accept implementation requests

[placid vine]

how a component.GetType will avoid malwares ?

wa are talking about adding custom scripts, so custom types

[sick pier]

right and your saying how custom scripts could be malicious

[placid vine]

i told it
System.Data and System.IO

[short granite]

cant ppl still upload malicious scripts?

[placid vine]

yes

[sick pier]

this whole thing is just making a blockage for something that can be walked around

[placid vine]

guys if you have real solutions i'm all ears

but thunderstore doesn't scan the code

and System.Data and System.IO can both steal informations from your computer

fishing basically

[short granite]

are you able to develop a program to scan code?

if u could u could put that as part of the sdk

[placid vine]

i'm not able no

scan code is complexe
and reflection which is the simplest way is not enough

[cobalt relic]

Maybe it's the mods I downloaded or we got extremely lucky but we managed to find 5 stars in our run this afternoon and at some point we just stopped taking them because it was unbalancing our game heavily, do you know if there is a way to maybe disable them ?

[placid vine]

WTF

it's spawn weight is 1 xD

it happened several times ?

[placid vine]

P.S. it's not possible to scan code embed in an assetbundle

no antivirus is able to extract content of an unity assetbundle

[sick pier]

you can scan the type

[short granite]

i mean scanning it when building

[placid vine]

and ? the type is a name

tell me how GetType will avoid a malware ?

[sick pier]

the type gives information about the thing

you can use get type paired with some reflection to infer what it uses in properties and methods

[placid vine]

the type is the name of the class

[sick pier]

type isnt just the name

its a lot more

[placid vine]

bypassable

they just have to disable the scanner from the SDK dll, everyone know how to use DNSpy

[short granite]

like when you press the build bundle button, it will scan what is being built and then build

ah true

[placid vine]

you are totally wrong
GetType will not tell you if the code is malicious

[sick pier]

im not saying it will tell you

[placid vine]

that will not tell you if the namespace System.IO is used or not

[sick pier]

read the rest of what i said

[placid vine]

so i will have to make a whitelist of 800 safe methods ?

[cobalt relic]

Yeah it happened a lot, also with the weather modifiers mod the price got up to 500 because of bad weathers and we stopped taking all the stars because of that :/

[sick pier]

no but you can scan through the methods and properties to check if any of those types are part of the System.Data or System.IO family

[placid vine]

i will rouble the weight of every other scrap to divide the star by two

[placid vine]

it's really not enough
i though about it
but firstly it's slow in runtime, then what about the internal restrictions ?

if you made your class internal, reflection can't get it

the only way to bypass it is to make an instance of the class

you don't realize it's a real maze

theres will always be a rift

[sick pier]

theres also check the security status of an Assembly which could help

[placid vine]

"security status" ?

[sick pier]

checking if the assembly its coming from is trusted

[placid vine]

tell me more because that mean nothing rn

what make a dev thrusted ?

everyone can have a certificate in a couple of days to sign every of their code

oh and you forget a last thing

you can compile a script from string easily too

string codeToCompile = @"
            using System;
            namespace DynamicNamespace
            {
                public class DynamicClass
                {
                    public void DynamicMethod()
                    {
                        Console.WriteLine(""Dynamic code"");
                    }
                }
            }";

it's totally possible to run this

[sick pier]

no this is if the assembly is trusted by the machine, the trust level specifies if its being run withint sandbox or the machine has given it full trust to run without sandboxing

[placid vine]

again, you don't explain enough

so that mean nothing

if by sandbox you mean a dedicated environment without network or such

unity stoped to support this years ago

listen, this debate is pointless, i will not allow custom scripts yet, period
if you have any problem with that, complain to mama llama

[sick pier]

idk who that is

[placid vine]

the admin of thunderstore who take cares about malwares

[sick pier]

but whys that their issue

this isnt got to do with them

[placid vine]

they asked me yesterday if LE had any method to avoid unsafe scripts in modules

the SDK would be one of the simplest way for someone to hack a lot of peoples
so it's out of question to let adding custom scripts

[short granite]

just curious what would happen if u allowed custom scripts

[placid vine]

everyone will be able to customize the behavior of their moons and scraps which would be awesome
but they could easily do fishing and piracy too

[sick pier]

i have a start to something

using a safety system and you subtract an amont based on how sketchy something could be

[short granite]

thats very broad

[sick pier]

it doesnt account for string dynamic compiling but it covers off usage of types that are associated with System.IO and System.Data

[placid vine]

System.IO and System.Data was not exhaustives

[sick pier]

never said they were

[placid vine]

i think i will simply add more events

like left or right click for scraps
grabbed, dropped, held, in pocket, etc

[short granite]

holo u can maybe add a dll checker into lethal expansion

[sick pier]

this is kinda what my thing does

[placid vine]

a DLL checker will not work

[placid vine]

because of that

[short granite]

oh

[sick pier]

add a check for string length

[placid vine]

-_-

[sick pier]

this also accounts for internal variables by decrementing safety based on if classes are empty or void of details that reflection cannot find

[queen spire]

any update about this? another idea is to perhaps upload another separate version of the sdk/expansion with no additional content, just the custom content loader itself

[marble widget]

the core version exists already on thunderstore

1.3.5 & 1.3.6

[cobalt relic]

yeah we keep bumping into them

another in the same game, idk man they kind break the balance

[mossy galleon]

So wait, is it currently impossible to add custom dungeons via Lethal Expansion? I noticed even the more complex detailed maps only have outdoor areas, and I think one on the description said they had no idea of how to do so.

[queen spire]

I don't see it? LE on the left includes the game-side of SDK with included additional content, SDK on the right is the unity project used to create mods yourself.

[elfin pecan]

i had one of these from titan that was around 850 creds

[short granite]

its not by holo

[queen spire]

ah this one

thanks, didn't know it existed

[marble widget]

yesir

there's also a core modules thing too

[short granite]

where will we be able to do this? in this thread?

[placid vine]

It's planned for future
Maybe February

[placid vine]

Use the core
It's a fork, not from me

[placid vine]

Dunno yet

[short granite]

alr can u lmk when u have a system up?

[placid vine]

If you already have a script I can look at it if you want

You implemented RPC and such ?

[short granite]

i dont have a script yet

js wanna know if theres gonna be a specific place to send scripts

[placid vine]

I don't have any full plan for it so I dunno

[short granite]

ok take ur time 👍

[placid vine]

What you want to do exactly?

You may not need a script

[short granite]

still the wave thing, i want it to be a random event with random values

[placid vine]

Ah I see

[slender garnet]

yo is there a way to turn off ALL MODIFICATIONS that the mod adds but keep the dependcy stuff this mod has? its conflicting with other things and i cant disable it because some other mods need it

[placid vine]

like what ?

[slender garnet]

i think mikes tweaks

its mostly based off concern and my friends reports, hes been playing my modpack more than i have

but, mikes tweaks messes with the time settings and i think that this mod might be overriding this

[placid vine]

you can use this meanwhile

but i don't plan to remove the settings

[slender garnet]

no i just meant an off button, will the mods that depend on this still work?

[placid vine]

for now yes

the next major update for junuary will be settings for modules si it risk to don't longer work

[slender garnet]

is there a way to do that switch in thunder launcher? turning off the normal one turns off the mods that depend on it, turning them back on turns back on this

[placid vine]

i read you have to use both

[slender garnet]

alright i'll try it, thank you

[viral niche]

Is there a way to disable the christmas stuff like the new maps and items?

Preferably without having to make my friends dumpster dive into their game files to delete stuff?

[queen spire]

try using the lethalexpansioncore mod instead of lethalexpansion

lets you load custom stuff without the default mods from lethalexpansion

[viral niche]

Ah okay, cool

[mossy galleon]

Hmm I see, is it a bit tough to implement? One of the most common complaints I see from some map makers/and mod consumers rn is that the dungeons are all the same on custom maps. Regardless it's definitely what i'm looking forward to the most and I appreciate the work.

[placid vine]

not that hard, mostly long because i don't embed any vanilla script so i have to remake a lot of fields

then even if i do it, a really few peoples will make new dungeons because it's a bulk of twenties of prefabs

[slender garnet]

also it worked lol

the lethalexpansioncore

[mossy galleon]

Well in the grand scheme of things there aren't even that many moon mods yet, but I know some of the more popular ones do want to implement custom dungeons but can't, and while these two aren't as big:

The SecretLabs moon has around 15,000DL's and can't even use the SCPFoundationDungeon generation (a mod that has over 200,000 downloads in comparison) so I think there's a MASSIVE interest in having custom dungeons that fit the theme of the moon more appropriately.

I know personally i'd be far more inclined to start making dungeon prefabs along with moons if the feature was more readily available/accessible to do so, or at the very least porting some assets/maps over.

[elfin pecan]

the 1.3.2 update for SCPFoundationDungeon (supposedly, ymmv) supports modded moons now, so you can pair up the moon+dungeon. it does have a noted incompat with LE but i'm not sure if that also applies to the LE core. most likely does.
ooblterra being as unique as it is has spoiled me on custom interior+exteriors.

[mossy galleon]

I see, i'll do some testing, what's ooblterra?

Right now as far as I am aware the only dungeon changing/adding mods are The SCP one, Scoopy's Variety Mod (formerly LethalExtension), and you can MAYBE count the backrooms mod I suppose aswell.

[elfin pecan]

you can find it in the modding-forum section of this discord. its in heavy beta (0.7.0 hotfix 2) and doesnt really jive well with mp but it works just fine in sp, from what ive tested at least. would recommend, its got a very distinct aesthetic and feel to it.

[mossy galleon]

Yeah i'll probably try it out, mainly even when testing mods out and syncing, i'm doing it all mostly through thunderstore with friends atm though, so hopefully it gets released there soon for less of a janky syncronization process with my friends. Are there any other major mods that add any major interior changes not on thunderstore atm?

[cobalt relic]

I believe the mod doesn't save the number of starting days when you restart a game, I put 2 days on start and when we got fired and replayed the game we had 3 days from the beginning

[rotund linden]

Hey! Sorry for any interruptions that im causing, but i do have a quick question regarding the AssetBundle Builder. While making a few new scraps and getting ready to export them for testing, i noticed that i was getting an error while it was building (the image shows what the error looks like). Even trying to just build with the defaults provided still shows this error mid-build. Im not really sure what i did wrong or if i missed a step, since all i did was follow the instructions to set up the SDK, but any help would be really appreciated!

[tardy prairie]

you probably have a duplicated file name

[rotund linden]

(i ended up figuring out the problem, i had to make an uncompressed build first, but thank you anyways!)

[placid vine]

You had duplicated file names

Read the console of unity when the error happen
There was detailed informations

You had to rename some files

[random tusk]

Guys I cant understand anything herea

I dont know how to build a bundle or some asset for my mod

for adding my items into game

There is no wiki or any readme etc.

I cant figure out how this sdk works

I don't know where to add my model or where to edit its code. Even if I do these, I don't understand where to save the mod and where to place the file.

Okay, I learned how to add an fbx file and adjust the sound and properties of the item, but where will I save them and add them to the game at the end?

[tardy prairie]

you just build it trough this

then make a folder in your plugins folder and put it there

also make sure to include whatever items or moons you made in the modmanifest

[random tusk]

So, if I want to change the grab and drop sfx of the item, where should I put the audio files? Directly to the item folder?

[tardy prairie]

they can be anywhere really

but easiest to just put them with your scrap

[random tusk]

btw can u check this

Is there an mistake here?

@tardy prairie

[tardy prairie]

add a networkobject component to your prefab

[random tusk]

how

[tardy prairie]

i think its the easiest if you just copy one of the example items and just change the mesh and texture of it to your item

so you dont need to do it manually everytime

[random tusk]

Is it okay this way?

[random tusk]

I really need to understand how to add item from zero 🤯

[cobalt relic]

Hey is there a way to preview easily the hand offset ? It's kind of hard to guess with the rotations/positions offset

[placid vine]

@random tusk even if I do a tutorial someday, it will be a tutorial about the sdk, not about unity
You should learn to use it

[placid vine]

There's a scene in the mods/lethalexpansion folder

[placid vine]

Read the errors on the top
Again it's about unity this time
So I'll not document it
That would need a video of 3 hours or 10 pages of wiki

[cobalt relic]

Thank you very much 🙏

I managed to place the item in its hand (copied the ItemHoldAxis transform component), is there a way to see the object moving while I'm modifying the offset values ? Like on this prefab the hand is holding

[placid vine]

No
The offset value is independent of the scene

Just copy paste

[limber lagoon]

How does one turn off rain on the inside of building? And how would one stop items disappearing from ship once it reaches orbit?

[placid vine]

for rain,
change entrance trigger audio reverb id to 2

for the items that dissapear, do you use the proper prefab of the ship navmesh collider ?

[queen spire]

#thunderstore-updates message
finished my first few items for my mod using this SDK :)

not sure if it works yet, thunderstore hasn't updated

[placid vine]

You should test it before upload on thunderstore, not after x)

[limber lagoon]

Thank you! As for ship I don't know what was wrong, tried everything I could, ended up moving most my stuff to a new moon which fixed the issue.

[placid vine]

theres two colliders in the ship entrance

they affect the saving of the scraps

and theres a third one further in sky

[queen spire]

oh, it does work, I just meant it wasn't showing up in the thunderstore app, only on the website. It's there now

[placid vine]

r2modman always have 15 minutes late

[random tusk]

It says "The system cannot find the specified file"

How can I fix this error?

@placid vine Where do you think I'm doing wrong?

I duplicated template mod file and edited

[placid vine]

read the console of unity

you have two files with same name, which is illegal for an asset bundle

[random tusk]

which files

[placid vine]

↑ ^^

[random tusk]

I cant understand it :DD

[random tusk]

Should I delete the other template mod file?

[placid vine]

no

[placid vine]

just rename one of theses two files

does it work after renamed ?

[random tusk]

no

same error with cristhmasvillage.lem

this is manifest file

[placid vine]

did you renamed one of theses two files ?

[random tusk]

no I didnt

[placid vine]

i told you to

[random tusk]

wait I will rename it and try again

Oh my bad sorry

[placid vine]

no worries ^^

it may be several files that must be renamed, read the console again if it still happens

[random tusk]

yea I found 2 files and renamed all now it is building bundle thanks for help bro 🙂

I know unity .net and some other apis but I am new in LE sdk sorry

[placid vine]

asset bundles are from unity :P not SDK

[random tusk]

ahh ok I learned something new again :DD

Which of these should I put in plugins? @placid vine

my mods name is turkishcompany btw

[placid vine]

the one you've made

so turkishcompany.lem

[random tusk]

I have LethalSDK files here

[placid vine]

you don't need it

[random tusk]

just turkishcompany.lem right?

and LE mod installed

[placid vine]

yes

[random tusk]

like this right?

@placid vine

[placid vine]

it should work yes

the console of bepinex will tell you

[random tusk]

@placid vine I think it worked right?

But I think I have to delete other template mod file

[placid vine]

yes it does

[random tusk]

bc It doubles moons

[placid vine]

it should fail

if if try to double moons

[random tusk]

I have 2 christmas moon and 2 other moon

[placid vine]

oh

so it don't fail lol

[placid vine]

read the warning on your manifest

[random tusk]

So can I delete other template mod file

[placid vine]

you don't need, read the warning of your modmanifest

[random tusk]

when I build bundle I dont have any errors

just 2 warnings

[random tusk]

how can I fix this

[placid vine]

don't reimport the scraps of the template

[random tusk]

oh ok

ok it is fixed now

btw

How can I find my item

[placid vine]

in mod setting put the scrap amount to maximum

and just find it

you can use the UnityExplorer mod to find it easier

you can't manually spawn a scrap

[random tusk]

you mean global spawn weight right?

[placid vine]

no

in the main menu you have settings

spawn weight to 100 will help ofc

but the main menu have settings

[random tusk]

this one?

[placid vine]

main menu of the game

[random tusk]

oh

you mean in game settings :DDD

ok my bad :DD

the absolute white settings screen

I am going to be blind with my monitor's brightness XD

[placid vine]

sorry xD

[random tusk]

can I change its theme :d

[placid vine]

no

[random tusk]

oh ok

[placid vine]

i'm just lazy to made it orange xD

[random tusk]

oh ok np :dd

ScrapAmountMultiplier right?

I made it 10

10 is max

[placid vine]

yes

[random tusk]

@placid vine I cant pick up my item

[placid vine]

it require a collider and the proper tag

look at the template scraps

[random tusk]

@placid vine is tihs collider?

[placid vine]

box collider, PhysicsProp tag and Props layer

[random tusk]

yes or no @placid vine

I am changing Layer from Default to Props

[placid vine]

fpr everything except the scan node

that need another tag and layer

[random tusk]

so I am going to click yes

[placid vine]

yes

[random tusk]

for all items I have to this steps

ok

I added box collider

Do I need to edit?

[placid vine]

depend of you

[random tusk]

Is it okay this way?

I think it is very big for tea cup so I have to make it smaller am I right?

I don't know if it matters but I arranged it this way

[placid vine]

better yes

just try and see

[random tusk]

alright

btw

can I add a decor with this sdk? @placid vine

[placid vine]

define decor

[random tusk]

which file or where

[placid vine]

no, define what do you mean by decor

[random tusk]

Ship decor like table or television or shower you know

[placid vine]

no, not yet

[random tusk]

alr

@placid vine I can grab but I cant scan it

how can I fix this

[placid vine]

read the warning

[placid vine]

.

and look at the template again

[random tusk]

State comes from an incompatible keyword space

what is the issue about this

[placid vine]

just restart unity

[random tusk]

alr

It says these 2 materials missing parents

how can I fix it??

[placid vine]

for some reasons it's a child material

create a new material with HDRP/Lit

remove the old one

[random tusk]

ok

[placid vine]

or create one that will be their parent

but now i go, i'm not longer available

most issues you will have can be resolved with a bit of googleling or experimenting, you don't need my help

[random tusk]

alr thanks bro o7

[random tusk]

How can I adjust the position of the item on the ground and in the hand? So how do I set it differently on both?

[cobalt relic]

You can do it in the inspector

this one

[random tusk]

yea I am changing these but I cant see any change in scene

[cobalt relic]

Yeah they don't change visually in unity, OP explained you can use the scene in mods/lethalexpansion where there are placeholders hands and the item axis but I didn't manage to use it to place the item correctly

[random tusk]

@cobalt relic btw how can I fix this? It lies horizontally on the ground

[cobalt relic]

Usually I just make them hang in the appropriate direction in a 3D software so the mesh is already well oriented but if you can't do that this must be the place where you can rotate it on the ground

[random tusk]

@cobalt relic how caan I increase my items spawn rate?

[cobalt relic]

Probably here, the higher the spawn weight the higher the spawn rate

I don't know what the global spawn weight means though, maybe a default config for modded moons

[random tusk]

Bruh my item is flying

how can I fix this?

[cobalt relic]

Yeah mine is too, when you look up and down the item doesn't stay in the hand

but I'm wondering if that's not the case in the vanilla game

maybe we weren't paying attention but items might be clipping when looking up in vanilla too

Need to check this in a modless save

[random tusk]

When the item spawns around, it is a little bit underground. When I pick it up and put it down, it looks like the one on the right. How can I fix this?

[cobalt relic]

make sure the center pivot of your item is at the bottom of your object and is in 0 0 0 in your 3D software

[random tusk]

how can I check this?

[royal pine]

Why does this mod make my pc drop to like 40fps or lower when i host?

[cobalt relic]

well you know use your favorite 3D software to make sure the pivot center is on 0 0 0 on the grid and is where you want your object to touch the ground

I use maya but you can use Blender

I don't know if there is a way to modify the center pivot on unity I don't know this engine very well

[queen spire]

I see

also a tip for finding your item in the game: temporarily set it to 100 on global spawn weight, use mod menu in game to up the amount of items that spawn, and use the gamemaster mod to /speed and get into the dungeon faster. I usually find the item I'm working on in the first room

it would be nice to have a mod that just lets you spawn it in, but this is the best I've found

[queen spire]

this is normal, try it with other regular items. I think it's something to do with the 3rd person mod, when you see other people holding stuff it doesn't do this

[random tusk]

Btw what the hack is this

[queen spire]

I think you gave the scannode a material?

on the prefab

[random tusk]

When I place the model in the scene it settles too far from the center. When I move it to where it should be and test the mod, I cannot see or find the item.

[random tusk]

Yea I deleted scan node from scene and it is fixed

[random tusk]

but I have this issue

[queen spire]

I think scannode is used for scanning so you might want to keep it

[queen spire]

although I haven't tried to see what happens if you don't have it

[random tusk]

I have scan node in my object's prefab not in scene I fixed it but I have a positioning issue rn

[queen spire]

I see

are you sure you applied the transform in blender?

if you're using blender that is

[random tusk]

I cant open this model in blender

I mean I can open but I cant see anything

Idk why

[queen spire]

it might be very small

[random tusk]

But

when I imported model into unity

It was very big

[queen spire]

hm

[random tusk]

It was big like main ship from lethal company

[queen spire]

try zooming out in blender?

[random tusk]

nothing

it is a object file not fbx

[queen spire]

try clicking on the model in this panel and pressing s and scaling it down?

[random tusk]

@queen spire Oh It is worked

And I realized the problem

it is not in center

how can I make it perfectley centered?

[queen spire]

👍

[random tusk]

@queen spire ?

[queen spire]

press f3 and type geometry to origin

[random tusk]

thanks bro

[queen spire]

👍

[random tusk]

Why does my model look so dark when inside? It also looks instantly clear when I scan it and when I put it out it looks a little clearer and brighter

[random tusk]

Ok I fixed it

[queen spire]

hm, I'm having an issue with my mod in a game with my friends. sometimes when we pick up modded items and drop them, it locks off the inventory slot and makes it so you can't interact with anything, open doors, etc. Is this a known bug?

[placid vine]

not it's not a known bug Oo

what mods did you used ?

and is there any error in console ?

[queen spire]

I just came off but I will see if I can find the error in the console when I play again tomorrow

[placid vine]

okay

[queen spire]

playing with a lot of mods, mostly QoL stuff and a few content mods

[random tusk]

How can I make my item two handed?

I already marked Two Handen Animation box but it is still not working?

[placid vine]

change the offset

the animation just change the walking animation or something, i'm unsure

[random tusk]

oh ok

btw custom grab sfx not working

how can I fix it?

[placid vine]

show me how you did

[random tusk]

togg_grab_sfx

.wav file in the same folder with asset file

[placid vine]

what about the asset bank in the manifest ?

[random tusk]

here

[placid vine]

well, theres not any audio clip in it

[random tusk]

ok I made this

is this right way?

[placid vine]

so it should work now

[random tusk]

btw I have a yellow error here

[placid vine]

yes, the error is pretty clear
i don't want to help you too much, you have to find your own solutions

[random tusk]

is it a serious problem

[random tusk]

alr thanks

[placid vine]

if you read the error you'll understand it instantly

[random tusk]

@cobalt relic When I held the item in my hand, the problem of it flying in the air was resolved. I have no idea how it happened :DD

[cobalt relic]

mod update ?

[random tusk]

Idk

[random tusk]

@placid vine how can I find default sound effect names?

[placid vine]

on the mod page

[random tusk]

I cant find any sound name in mod page

[placid vine]

on the SDK page i mean

[latent walrus]

Is there a way to remove the moons added by this mod? (such as waterridge, christmas village, etc.)

I’d like to only have the moons i downloaded from other mods available

[placid vine]

Remove the templatemod.lem

[random tusk]

@placid vine can I make a glowing item??

[placid vine]

Yes
You can use custom material and custom shader

HDRP/Lit can glow as well

[random tusk]

alright I am going to add Mjolnir and Kratos Axe and I need to add some cool glow effects :DD

and also my car model needs lights too

[scarlet scaffold]

Hey @placid vine in the manifest there's an area for audio clips, is that working rn or no?

[placid vine]

yes

the asset bank

[scarlet scaffold]

Alright I'm guessing it's more for moon sfx than an scrap with sound right?

[placid vine]

ah you mean ambiance

not yet

[scarlet scaffold]

Ah okok but can you make an scrap that makes sounds? Like a plushie for example?

If so is there a script within the sdk that alloes for that?

[placid vine]

no, will be in the 1.4.0

[scarlet scaffold]

Niceee

Also gotta say, well done on the sdk it helps me so much. I am starting to understand how to mod and have fun haha x)

[limber lagoon]

latest version of lethal expansion causes my moon to break I guess. Don't know what causes issue?

[limber lagoon]

I think I fixed the issue.

Is there a way to add quicksand and random map spawn like the pumpkins to the map?

[placid vine]

it's the AI Nodes

[still scarab]

Does this mod have compatibility with more company? I tried to play with some friends and the game didn't let them

[small gyro]

Works for me

[placid vine]

it's softly compatible, i ain't tested in deepness

[still scarab]

It may be because I don't know how to install the mod

[limber lagoon]

do I just set AI Node as the tag?

[placid vine]

no, you have to place AINodes

like in the templates

[placid vine]

R2Modman

[still scarab]

I don't know how to use it

I install manually

Y just put all in plugins

Is that the problem?

[placid vine]

it's recommended to place every mod in a different folder in plugins

it's the best way to manually install it

[still scarab]

I see

[still scarab]

@placid vine the mod has a Modules folder and 2 .dll and a .lem files. Do I put everything in a single folder? Or do I create another folder for the files only

[placid vine]

yes

everything in the same folder

[real cosmos]

Does Lethal Expansion increase fall dmg?

[cobalt relic]

@placid vineare you an actual game dev irl ?

[dire hamlet]

Can you disable the planets that come with this mod?

[latent walrus]

@dire hamlet

[maiden mountain]

is there an easy way to check if my scrap was added onto the game correctly? i was gonna just keep playing until i found it but im having very bad luck haha

and i did set the scrap value to weight 100

[random tusk]

@placid vine can I make a glowing item with strobe effect too?

[placid vine]

No

[placid vine]

Yes

[placid vine]

Delete the templatemod.lem

[placid vine]

The spawn weight is not a spawn rate, LE comes with a plenty of settings, you have one to increase scrap amount

[placid vine]

What is strobe effect ?

[random tusk]

I mean light animation

[placid vine]

i still don't understand what mean strobe effect

[random tusk]

In the sense that the light turns on a little and goes out a little

[placid vine]

you can use an animator controller and an animation clip that always loop on the scrap

[random tusk]

I mean The effect is when it shines a little, then fades out a little, and then shines again a little

[random tusk]

hmm ok I will try this

btw is LC API causing problems for you too? @placid vine

[placid vine]

i dunno i don't use it

[random tusk]

with multiplayer

[random tusk]

oh ok

[limber lagoon]

is it just the outside node? I cant seem to find an AI node other than the tag for AI node on the outside node?

[limber lagoon]

I have a bunch down, but the rocks n pumkins dont spawn? They work for the outside monsters though, do I need to increase the spawn rate or something else?

[placid vine]

honestly the outside object is still blurry for me
i just know they pick the AINodes to spawn

try to maximize the spawn rates

[limber lagoon]

okay, is quicksand also an AINode , and do I need to add it to the outside enemy list or ouside object list?

[placid vine]

quicksand is a weather thing

it spawn on wateridge but don't drow players
and don't show on orion but drow players :/

but when rainy, quicksand automatically spawn on AINodes

[limber lagoon]

okay. ill go and try it out.

also sorry for dumb questions as well, really am enjoying the sdk never worked with unity either, very fun so thank you.

[placid vine]

no worries

[still scarab]

Do you think it may be a problem with this? @placid vine sorry for being annoying

[placid vine]

if you talk about the gross line, theres no problem

it's confusing if you only have unknown and medium compatible mods
try to install some mods with a another compatibility value like Landmine fix by exemple and you'll understand what is it for
in short in text with bepinex we can only Gray, White, Yellow, Red and Purple
and i wanted more colors for compatibilities

[still scarab]

I will

Thanks

[still scarab]

Sorry for keep asking but is this ok?

[placid vine]

this mean a moon try to load scraps from a module not installed

[still scarab]

Thanks

[maiden mountain]

Hey! So I've been having this issue when loading into my moon. I seem to fall through the floor on the sections that don't have a baked NavMesh. However, every time I bake a mesh, I can't make it so the map's model actually bakes properly, only some small parts seem to bake into the moon. Any idea on how to fix this?

I attempted to add a Mesh Collider with the model's original mesh from the .fbx file too, but that didn't seem to really help

[random tusk]

This is the final version of Leviathan Axe, but I still can't find out why there is a small blur on the upper right side of the axe

[austere geyser]

Found incompatiblity between Lethal expansion and ScoopyVariety/SCPFOundation mods where the interiors dont spawn at all

[cobalt relic]

There is this thing on every item in your hand if it's a bit too close to the camera

Is the Two handed animation working ? My character carry heavy objects with one hand

[wary prairie]

When i have scrap protection on for this mod, it prevents me from fully returning to orbit (the ship will take off, give me the report, but no matter how long i wait it doesnt proceed to the next day and hovering over the landing lever it says waiting for the ship to land) when this happens i get the following error, is there any way to fix this?

[Error : Unity Log] SpawnStateException: Object is not spawned
Stack trace:
Unity.Netcode.NetworkSpawnManager.DespawnObject (Unity.Netcode.NetworkObject networkObject, System.Boolean destroyObject) (at <1b23ec5fcbfc4fbca0db70afcdb9b715>:IL_0012)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkObject.Despawn (System.Boolean destroy) (at <1b23ec5fcbfc4fbca0db70afcdb9b715>:IL_0012)
LethalExpansion.Patches.RoundManager_Patch.DespawnPropsAtEndOfRound_Prefix (RoundManager instance, System.Boolean despawnAllItems) (at <116fdcc4605e4cf4b6c8889873f05026>:IL_00B7)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMDRoundManager::DespawnPropsAtEndOfRound(RoundManager,bool)
StartOfRound+<EndOfGame>d255.MoveNext () (at <44743d9474784365a095189c76175301>:IL_01CF)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0026)

[placid vine]

What scrap protection is for ?

[placid vine]

Can you send me a zip of the project ? I will try to see why the collider don't work

[placid vine]

Unsure to understand where the blur is

[placid vine]

Because the dungeons that can spawn on a moon are written on the moon settings

It's to the dev to ScoopyVariety to add their dungeon to custom moons

[placid vine]

I only port the field
I dunno exactly what they do

[wary prairie]

this. also if i set it to false but have another mod that saves scrap (like Lethal Company Enhancer) I get the same error

[random tusk]

Look at top right of axe

[random tusk]

This guy said axe is very close the camera

[placid vine]

Can you make me a video ? I will follow exact same actions to reproduce the issue

[random tusk]

I will try to move axe a little bit far from camera

[placid vine]

I personally don't remember to have any error with the setting so I need a video to reproduce it more easily

[random tusk]

btw do u know how can I add custom shovel model? @placid vine

I want to use this axe as a shovel

[placid vine]

It's a variant of the scrap item
I must add it to the sdk

[random tusk]

https://www.twitch.tv/eray/clip/GentleSillyOstrichOneHand-6jAFBg7NKg365wNd?filter=clips&range=24hr&sort=time this is a clip from a streamer who plays with my mod with 10k+ viewers :DD

[random tusk]

do you know how can I make a one?

I can try to read a wiki or api about this

[placid vine]

It's not in the SDK yet

[random tusk]

When will you add it or do you know a sdk or document where I can do this?

[placid vine]

You can't
The SDK don't allow custom scripts for safety

And I dunno when
I can check today it it's long too add or not

[random tusk]

I saw an example in lethal things mod. A boink hammer but I dont know how can I make a shovel like this

[random tusk]

oh ok. It would be really nice if you do

[wary prairie]

DM'd you

[latent walrus]

i have the Orion and Aquatis mod installed

and i deleted the templatemod.lem

which i was told i should delete if i didn't want the waterridge map

and for some reason none of the moons are showing up

[placid vine]

Orion depends of the template

theres a dependency field you can add when you create a moon

you can ask to sf Desat to remove this dependency

the field is to avoid errors when a module depend of assets from another module

in this case, orion and aquatis depends of the scraps in the template

[still scarab]

I invited two friends, one joined but the other one couldn't, it showed him a "an error has occurred" sign. In my log it showed this error

[Error : HarmonyX] Error while running static void LateCompany.Patches.ConnectionApproval_Patch::Postfix(Unity.Netcode.NetworkManager+ConnectionApprovalRequest request, Unity.Netcode.NetworkManager+ConnectionApprovalResponse response). Error: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at LateCompany.Patches.ConnectionApproval_Patch.Postfix (Unity.Netcode.NetworkManager+ConnectionApprovalRequest request, Unity.Netcode.NetworkManager+ConnectionApprovalResponse response) [0x00019] in <1669eb1f078d4f1ab13372200e83405f>:IL_0019 at (wrapper dynamic-method) GameNetworkManager.DMDGameNetworkManager::ConnectionApproval(GameNetworkManager,Unity.Netcode.NetworkManager/ConnectionApprovalRequest,Unity.Netcode.NetworkManager/ConnectionApprovalResponse)

Any idea why it only lets one player join?

[cobalt relic]

Hey 👋 Am I the only one who gets wrong prices on scraps compared to the datas I put in the inspector ?

the price of my items are always way below what I put

[placid vine]

[Error : HarmonyX] Error while running static void LateCompany.Patches.ConnectionApproval_Patch

i don't think LateCompany is compatible with LE

[placid vine]

the price multiplier of scraps is 0.4

it's a vanilla thing and you can change it in the LE settings

[still scarab]

Oh I see, is there a similar mod compatible to LE?

[placid vine]

not really
it may be about the feature of LE that sync the settings from the host to clients

that may break things

https://github.com/ANormalTwig/LC-LateCompany/blob/45a32594ae7b3615a3d1703738f777272caa8e30/Patches/GameNetworkManager.cs#L16

the NullReferenceException happen in this class

but if i want to investigame myself i need to know what is null
and that mean to ask bepinex to have a decent logger -_-

[still scarab]

So, to solve that problems I have to remove late company? I will try that. Thanks for helping man.

[still scarab]

I don't understand what is that but you do so I will agree with you haha

[placid vine]

i need to check more deeply why late company made this null exception with LE

but with bepinex it's boring to do

[still scarab]

bepinex is the mod of which all the other mods are dependent right?

[placid vine]

yes

it's the modding framework

[flint apex]

my mod is deleting other custom scraps from spawning for some reason, what can cause this?

[placid vine]

i began to implement it, i hope i'll finish it tomorrow

it may contain implementation of flashlights

[random tusk]

is it fixed with removing late company? Because my friend is getting same error too when tryin to join our lobby

[random tusk]

good luck bro I know you can do it

[last island]

did you ever fix this>

[placid vine]

i forgot, i give a quick look but i need more infos before

tell me exactly how to reproduce it

modded moon, vanilla moon, specific scrap ?

did you was host, client ?

[cobalt relic]

Nice thank you 👍

Is there a wiki maybe somewhere to learn some stuff about LE without bothering you all the time ?

[dire bobcat]

I removed the dependency in the latest patch

[wary prairie]

it happens regardless of the moon or type of scrap. i had gone to wateridge just to test in the video i DM'd you

I also sent you my r2modman profile code so you can use the exact same mods I have when trying to recreate the issue

[wary prairie]

I turned off scrap protection in Lethal Company Enhancer (not sure if this was causing an issue but i dont need that code to run twice) and uninstalled persistent items (which was definitely causing the issue)

[marble widget]

does anyone know how the part to part ratio for spawn curves works?

like what are the parts lmao 😭 is it y=0-1 for time of day and so y:x and x = ??? spawn cap or something?

i am kinda making progress on this it seems like the second number is spawn cap

maybe

that doesnt make sense

is it even a part to part ratio wtf

is there another multiplier for weather or something?

im editing spawn curves in lethal quantities its taking forever lol

i think its just values for a fuckin graph line thingy that i cant see

[placid vine]

for monsters, the abscissa is the time of day

for objects, i dunno exactly how it work, i think abscissa is the chance to and ordinate is the amount

don't blame me, it's how it's made in vanilla

[dire hamlet]

Fairly new to modding but have experience with unity and modeling. Is there a tutorial how to create new moons / interior?

[random tusk]

@placid vine bro when I pick up my item Leviathan Axe I cant drop it

when I drop it I still have same weight 26lb

https://www.twitch.tv/eray/clip/GentleSillyOstrichOneHand-6jAFBg7NKg365wNd?filter=clips&range=24hr&sort=time @placid vine Here the player picks up the ax and then leaves it, but others still see it in his hand, he says that he left the ax and the ax is gone, then the E key does not work

This is the settings of Leviathan Axe

[placid vine]

Anything in logs ?

[placid vine]

Copy the testmoon on the SceneBuilder scene

And work over this copy

Look how the template is made

Duplicate the template and work over the copy too

[dire hamlet]

Thanks! :)

[marble widget]

are you putting it in storage

this is a game bug either vanilla or old version of lc api

not sure but havent seen it in a bit

[dire hamlet]

Is there also a way to mod the dungeons?

[placid vine]

not yet

[dire hamlet]

Okay, thanks for the quick answer!

[placid vine]

added in 1.3.15
but very experimental

need testing and reports

theres no documentation on theses new features, i'll made templates in next days

[random tusk]

Ok I will test it today

Btw can I test it did you update the sdk?

[placid vine]

Yes

[queen spire]

ok I have the error log for this:

it's only happening with my mod, not other custom scrap from the lethalexpansion, so I'm a bit confused at why it would happen

basically if I drop one of my custom items, I become bugged, can't interact with anything and can't change inventory slot, just have to restart my game

it's something to do with host, and notably I'm not the one hosting this game. is it some tickbox on the network object script on the prefab or something?

[random tusk]

can I configure damage value?

[cobalt relic]

I'm trying to add new items but some of them are two handed, how do I manage to make the player play the 2 handed animation instead of the one handed ?

[maiden mountain]

i haven't made a 2 handed scrap myself before, but im pretty sure you have to tick these 2 boxes on the script of your scrap item

they should be located right at the top of the script, just below the min and max value

[cobalt relic]

Yes that's what I was thinking indeed, but even with these 2 checked none of my items in game use the right animation

[maiden mountain]

hmmm thats strange then

i wouldnt know myself how to fix it, sorry about that

[cobalt relic]

Yeah no problem thank you 👍

[random tusk]

@placid vine I cant find my item in dungeons. Here is my item's settings in unity

[tardy prairie]

Did you add it to the mod asset?

[queen spire]

ok I fixed this, it was made clear in the new update for the sdk: it's just some network settings on the prefabs that needed to be ticked

mod works fully now :)

[random tusk]

yea

[placid vine]

There's a value about damages in the shovel script, ported with the SDK but I dunno if it really work

[placid vine]

Did you edited the offset values properly ?

Unsure about what does the two handed animation check
But you need to change the offset too

[placid vine]

Logs please

[cobalt relic]

Yes here is a video of the issue. I got an anvil that is two handed and I compare it to the apparatus. The apparatus has correct anim with both hands while my modded anvil has only one hand, in this example all my offsets are set to 0 so the anvil is not pointing in the right direction, don't mind this

[placid vine]

i see
hmm

it's like the conductive metal, it seems to don't work

i looked with the unity explorer and the values are properly set in game

i don't understand

[cobalt relic]

conductive metal is not working properly either ?

[placid vine]

no

until proof of contrary

[cobalt relic]

https://tenor.com/view/calculating-contemplating-hmmmmmm-hmmmmm-hmmmm-gif-25667707

that's weird

[indigo skiff]

still getting dungeon/seed sync issue in multiplayer

like falling through map and modded dungeon (Scoopy/SCP) being different to other clients

[placid vine]

the dungeon simply don't spawn for clients

it's a known issue

[marble widget]

ah crap 😐 i thought it actually was solved

[random tusk]

@placid vine dude can u check this

My 2 items spawnink

but other 2 item is not spawning

[cobalt relic]

they're inside a prefab ?

[random tusk]

yea

here

I turned scrap type to Normal from Shovel and it is fixed

when I turn my model into Shovel object, it doesnt spawns

[placid vine]

I'll check later

[dusty cipher]

@placid vine The mod is broken on v47. I didn't get a chance to copy the error.

It launches okay, but sometimes when landing the ship, it'll throw an exception and everyone's stuck on the ship with the greyed-out screen showing the world seed.

[marble widget]

there should be zero expectation for mods to work in new version until update lmao

go to properties in steam, betas, and then previous version

if you can't copy the error you should still find it in logoutput

[random tusk]

yea it broked my mod too

[dusty cipher]

Am I not supposed to inform him that his mod broke? How else would he know?

[marble widget]

no.. you are. sorry for my choice of words

but yeh if you want the game to work with your mods you def will need to roll back

some things have already been updated but dependencies should take a little time

[placid vine]

Copy that, I'll give a look today

[cobalt relic]

I don't know why but modded maps from lethal expansion never have lighting when spectating friends so when you die you pretty much look at a black screen for several minutes

[marble widget]

i was able to load up a custom world with no problems in v47

but i'm using the latest lethal expansion core

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/jockie/LethalExpansionCore/

[dusty cipher]

That's a different mod

[marble widget]

which comes with fixes for dungeon syncing and exits and whatnot

[dusty cipher]

Try loading Experimentation

[marble widget]

its lethal expansion and has the functionality for custom worlds

hmm

ok i will

yup

working fine

[dusty cipher]

LethalExpansion, not LethalExpansionCore

[marble widget]

😐 is your brain not braining

did i not explain what im explaining

🤨

[dusty cipher]

It doesn't matter if LethalExpansionCore works or not. This is not the LethalExpansionCore mod-release

This is the post for LethalExpansion

[marble widget]

you are saying words sir but they are not making sense i gave you a hotfix solution until lethal expansion does work

so you can be on v47

😭

[dusty cipher]

False alarm, the error first occurs when LethalExpansion's prefix is called, but the issue is with a LethalLib patch. With LethalLib disabled, the error no longer occurs. https://github.com/HolographicWings/LethalExpansion/issues/82

[placid vine]

yes, it fix it naturally because theres not the network sync between host and client

[wary totem]

I love it. Thank you

[marble widget]

disabling lethallib will create new problems but

i mean you wouldnt have it if you didnt have mods that depend on it.

[dusty cipher]

Only Scoopy's variety mod. But the point is that it's not a LethalExpansion issue

[marble widget]

ah

im not having this issue with lethallib? or maybe i should look into this more

[placid vine]

i think weather brokes in LE

ah nvm

was pure random to have no weather on every moon lol

[wary totem]

Ya is fine lol. Just odd luck haha

[placid vine]

after i short test i saw no error

i must disable the patches for the weekly moon

disable the custom scraps and all the settings

[placid vine]

you may retry with 1.3.17 of the SDK and the mod

shovel audio must be an audio source in the same object

and it should use the TwoHanded animation

[indigo skiff]

didn't the game patch fixed that?
https://i.postimg.cc/QtFKrXc9/image.png
https://i.postimg.cc/ncbj6frr/image.png

still listed in known issues-

[placid vine]

no but

[reef plaza]

Hey, not an immediate concern but can we add a setting to sort the order of moons in the terminal? Even if it's client-side only, I'd like to be able to manually sort the moons by danger level

[placid vine]

someone already asked it, and it's tricky

the mod just take the list of the available moons and add them to the terminal
it would be long to do a whole setting especially to change the order of theses

questions comes like where should i put this setting, how huge it would be and how much space it will take on the screen
all theses just to change the order of the moons

the HUD don't even raycast properly so dropdowns doesn't work, so i prefer don't imagine a drag and droppable list

[reef plaza]

I'm more saying as a config setting

Not an in-game one

[placid vine]

i rewrote the config manager to made all of them automatically added to the settings menu

[cobalt relic]

Hey apparently the coil heads only targetting the host on modded moons is a lethal expansion issue, do you want me to make an issue post on github so it doesn't get forgotten ?

[placid vine]

theres already several issue posts no worries

we might found from where is it
i tried a fix in 1.3.15 that failed and had to revert it in 1.3.16