ImmersiveEntrance

[delicate abyss]

I think you need a text pop up tutorial that has 5 pages explaining what a fire exit is with a 3 second cooldown on the next page button every new save

[jade ocean]

Physicalize the tutorial as a manual too and make it purchasable in the store for 1000 credits, we need it to be accessible hat.

Mod is being weird after this latest patch, unless it's just coincidence. Same custom moon and compat custom interior twice in a row, but it only worked the second time

[sick tartan]

every time you open a fire exit, this video appears
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqw8DWY-A88&pp=ygUYbGV0aGFsIGNvbXBhbnkgZmlyZSBleGl0

[delicate abyss]

Im taking notes

[sick tartan]

even better video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhPjZBru73Q&pp=ygUYbGV0aGFsIGNvbXBhbnkgZmlyZSBleGl0

[bright grove]

[toxic tangle]

unless you use mimics

maybe a having the ability to peek inside the door by only playing the animation would work better bc if you're running chameleon the mansion doors also are somewhat restrictive

[jade ocean]

Lol mimics are compatible with like -1 interiors, I can lose it

[toxic tangle]

I don't use it my point was the niche case scenario for compatibility and alternative implementation in a general sense that's more than just the door

also idk what this is but it gets thrown and I can't see outside

[jade ocean]

Yeah, I gotchu. Honestly mimics could do with a complete technical overhaul to improve compatibility across the board. Very cool mod but not all that practical.

[toxic tangle]

best alternative is this door with the text left of the window

[toxic tangle]

imagine peeking inside and seeing the monster

[jade ocean]

Peak

Peek is peak

[toxic tangle]

confusing but true

[jade ocean]

Immediate giveaway that undermines the point of the mod, but still peak lol

[toxic tangle]

only if the door has a window the interaction changing text is also a giveaway

[jade ocean]

You can only peek if the door has a window, and if the door doesn't have a window that's also a giveaway. It's a catch-22, a windowed fire exit feature and mimics will never be compat.

If you're talking about opening a fire exit and seeing it in the crack as you do, well that's a different thing. I'd like it, but sounds complicated.

[toxic tangle]

unless it's a toggle like the mansion doors

and the second part yes

[frozen cliff]

I had this error too. disabling WaterAssetRestorer fixed it

[vague pumice]

ok

[jade ocean]

But...why? Lol I never would've guessed that in a million years, you positive @frozen cliff? Def gonna test when I'm at my PC

Hopefully that's not a breaking dependency for anything

[lament wasp]

It is broken

Sniper already confirmed

Might be fixed soon

[long cairn]

hm uh immersive entrance seems a bit bugged now on march, the interior view is popping out of the door.

[feral folio]

Forgot to take a print, but in some moons like Dine the doors have gaps because they're misplaced

[potent wagon]

Yeah it's a known issue

not on March tho, that's strange

[bright grove]

It's because the March main entrance building has a layer of Default instead of Room

It should be an easy fix

[long cairn]

ah alright

[bright grove]

Should I set SkipCulling or DisableCulling?

[stuck cliff]

disableculling

skipculling means that it will be ignored entirely

[bright grove]

I can't even disable it because my portal cameras don't get the CameraCullingOptions component

Ohhh I have to add it

[stuck cliff]

I don't create that on every camera

yea

[bright grove]

Okie

It works!

[stuck cliff]

[bright grove]

Looking at the portal screen from inside the interior still makes your held items turn invisible though

[stuck cliff]

with that option on it does?

that's.......strange

[stuck cliff]

oh wait, you're still doing Camera.Render() aren't you

[bright grove]

Oh yeah

I didn't test the other methods

[stuck cliff]

that makes sense then

it's in a different pass so the main camera's visibility is unaffected

I'd definitely recommend looking into that asap, it'll help a lot with performance in general but especially with CullFactory

possibly moreso than making CullFactory actually work with the portal camera

if you're working on it right now though and wanted to vc to look into options I'm down

I need to look at that item visibility thing before it sits for too much longer

[bright grove]

It'll be fixed in the next update

[bright grove]

Maybe tomorrow

It's getting late

[stuck cliff]

yeah

I'll have to see if I'm free tomorrow night to do some modding

for now, I'll see if I can resolve this item rendering thing, I suspect it broke in my last commit

[stuck cliff]

ah, I see the issue, apparently held items are positioned completely wrong at the point where your camera is rendering, so my culling is considering them to be outside

[bright grove]

ImmersiveEntrance - Update v1.1.1

• Improved CullFactory compatibility.
• Fixed the portal screen alignment on the moon March.

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Zehs/ImmersiveEntrance/

[marble basin]

This entrance feels.... immersive

I should have like a visible hole that can be peeked through if ImmersiveEntrance is loaded

[thick gazelle]

this mod doesn't work for me, its all black through the windows, anyone got any idea?
019e4c6f-e77b-0d70-4114-cea67baced56 here's a code to my modpack

[bright grove]

It looks like your modpack has EntranceTeleport objects in orbit?

[thick gazelle]

what does it mean?

[bright grove]

That is not supposed to ever happen

You have a mod installed that doing something weird

[thick gazelle]

hmm now I think of it I have a mod which adds camera, maybe this could be conflicting

ok its not the camera mod, I disabled it and still the same issue

[bright grove]

It looks like your modpack is trying to load the moons March and Vow when you load into the ship lobby

[marble basin]

WaterAssetRestorer/MaterialAssetRestorerCore be doin it

To yoink the assets at runtime

[bright grove]

[marble basin]

Talked about it a bit here: #1245084720614604873 message

But ye lol

[bright grove]

Thanks for the info

[toxic tangle]

I thought that was weird too

[bright grove]

ImmersiveEntrance - Update v1.1.2

• Added compatibility with MaterialAssetRestorerCore and WaterAssetRestorer mods.
• Fixed the portal screen on the Mineshaft interior sticking out at the top a little bit.

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Zehs/ImmersiveEntrance/

[toxic tangle]

adamance portal is too big ignore my crosshair lol

[thick gazelle]

Now it works for me! Sadly only vanilla interiors though, modded ones (weasley interiors) are still broken for me 😭

[cobalt notch]

Wesley Interiors won't work until the interiors themselves are updated.

[bright grove]

Thanks

[thick gazelle]

makes sense, thanks!

[sacred wharf]

Have you not got problems with the shader on the render of the camera ?

[bright grove]

What do you mean?

[sacred wharf]

the shader seems fine on the other side of the render texture

[bright grove]

I'm replacing the vanilla posterize shader and custom pass so I can make it exclude the portal screen material

[sacred wharf]

Interesting !

if this solution had been found earlier, Seamless Dungeon would still be alive

[crimson steeple]

it is the next logical step is it not..

[sacred wharf]

I hope so

[stuck cliff]

it wasn't so much a solution being found as it was Scoops putting in the work to reverse engineer the pre-v80 posterization filter and making it open source

🐐

[supple skiff]

Can't load with this mod with wesleys moon "galetry" its unable to generate a config for it leading me to be unable to load on it (cause I can't disable it)

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Magic_Wesley/Galetry/

[sacred wharf]

I see

[sacred wharf]

Galetry doesn't have any entrance door so I'm a bit curious. Are you sure Wesley's moons are compatible with v81 ?

[lament wasp]

they kinda are

some issues with calist but everything else should be fine

[sacred wharf]

I c

[sick tartan]

Any plans on adding compatibility with indoor fog?

[potent wagon]

Oh by the way, I had an idea on how to fix some of the small visual details with the Immersive Entrances- Mainly how some vanilla moons have their black planes alligned in a way where they stick out from the sides of the door frames, stuff like that! I don't know if this would be super hard but maybe adding a gradient on the edges would work to obsure the plane itself better? tho I'm kinda late on this since you've already kinda sorted out those issues with the vanilla moons, LOL

[pliant mulch]

is this vanilla indoor fog or like a modded interiors one

because if its a modded interiors one it might be a bit more complex

ik some people do it by attaching a thing to the player and it gets disabled outside so idrk if that would work

[sick tartan]

Vanilla facility

[pliant mulch]

im dumb i shoulda clarified

it reminds me of like

the asteroid 13 dark fog

i meant like moon sided stuff

not built into the interior

[tall snow]

i mean this is a thing built into the interiors yes

[bright grove]

I noticed that earlier when testing. I haven't looked into it yet

[sick tartan]

Experimentation

Vanilla indoor fog on experimentation

[bright grove]

I'm confused

[sick tartan]

Not custom moon shenanigans

But that'd be cool too tho

[potent wagon]

About what?

[bright grove]

About what you are saying

The mod only disables the dark plane when needed. It doesn't use it for any info

[potent wagon]

Well yeah, I mean what exactly confuses you?

I thought you replaced the dark plane w a plane that shows the interior while you're in the exterior, and the exterior while you're in the interior

is that not what it does?

Don't you just use the exact 1:1 position for your replacement? My suggestion was just to add like a black gradient around the edges of the "portal into the interior" so you wouldn't have to manually fix every single misplaced black plane

[bright grove]

The portal screen is it's own quad that gets dynamically placed

The mod doesn't use the position or rotation of the dark plane

[potent wagon]

oohh

So how is it dynamically placed?

[marble basin]

Magic 🪄 ✨

[bright grove]

Raycasts

[marble basin]

Close enough

[potent wagon]

ohh that's neat

[bright grove]

https://github.com/ZehsTeam/LethalCompany-ImmersiveEntrance/blob/main/ImmersiveEntrance/MonoBehaviours/DoorPortal.cs#L241

[potent wagon]

wait so how can we make sure that they show up properly when we do like, moon/interior compat?

[bright grove]

On my moon, I just copied Assurance's main entrance door EntranceTeleport and visuals. That worked good for me

[marble basin]

Ye

[bright grove]

I kept the offset between the visuals and EntranceTeleport object

[marble basin]

Also Facility main entrance

Though that's more for interiors

[bright grove]

Since I made a moon, it'll be easier for me to add better moon and interior support

I'm thinking devs will place a custom game object under their EntranceTeleport game object

It won't require any custom scripts or dependencies

[potent wagon]

Oh right, I forgot you made toilation

[bright grove]

[potent wagon]

Makes sense mkay!!!

[marble basin]

The moon and interior both need to support the portal for it to actually show up also

🤝

[potent wagon]

ye I figured lol

[bright grove]

Also the portal size can't get bigger from it's default size, but you can make it smaller if needed. I had to do this for Mansion interior since the door frame is smaller

[bright grove]

I'm thinking I could have editor scripts to make setup easier. These won't be included in your builds. They would probably just show up as missing scripts

[wispy flicker]

If I’m not mistaken, wasn’t there a mod that actually opened the physical doors between the inside and the outside? I’m not sure if this mod is different or if I’ve already mentioned it, it could be hazy

[sacred wharf]

#1202534076855357480

[wispy flicker]

Yessss that’s what I remember

[bright grove]

This mod only lets you see the other side

[sacred wharf]

Would be fancy of we could hear what happens on the other side too

[boreal shadow]

it would be sick if it was muffled.

[sacred wharf]

Ye

[bright grove]

That's easier said than done

[pliant mulch]

hello! I have a question regarding how i can make this mod work a little better with mine. All the moons I have use the same prefab for their main entrances but I've noticed some of the camera stuff is floating or not on the door? Is there something I'm not setting up right?

and its not consistent between all of them, IE like landslide has it perfectly fine but Integrity has it offset like 2 feet above the door

[sacred wharf]

Is it not because the door is backside forth ?

[pliant mulch]

?

wdym

[sacred wharf]

Like is it not inverted ? I saw that on a few moons and I assumed it was because the door was the wrong way around

[pliant mulch]

no not inverted, the camera was raised

and theyre all the same prefab too which is whats confusing me

cus its not on all of them

[sacred wharf]

Hmm

[pliant mulch]

wack

[robust gyro]

happens on mine too and they're basically prefabbed vanilla doors

[marble basin]

Make sure the center of the object holding the EntranceTeleport matches the vanilla door's

Like if you move it a bit higher it'll offset the portal

[bright grove]

That's really weird

[bright grove]

The door portal raycasts downwards to find the floor position so it can be set on the Y axis correctly. I'm not too sure what's going wrong here. Maybe the floor has the wrong layer set? @pliant mulch

[pliant mulch]

Should be room layer

Otherwise shit wouldn’t worky correctly

A couple of Kenji’s are like this too

As you can probably already have seen above I lowkey forgot

[marble basin]

Oh actually yeah I misremembered, I had to move it forward since it was behind the wall, not lower

[bright grove]

What moon is that?

[pliant mulch]

That one is integrity

Also I’m noticing too that after the latest update framerate gets torched near non vanilla interiors that worked fine before too but I’m not sure what would be the cause of that one

[pliant mulch]

M

Okay

I think I see the problem with integrity then

It might be hitting the trim

Which may or may not have a collider

Depending on how stupid I was at the time

We’ll find out

[pliant mulch]

<- idiot alarm

no idea what would be the issue for kenjis though

unless the back wall is slightly tilted

[bright grove]

Glad you found the issue

[pliant mulch]

thats the issue for mine at least

got nothin for thrive

@robust gyro do you know if the main entrance block the door is against is slightly tilted?

[robust gyro]

lemme check

yeah it was slightly tilted

now we good

[sick tartan]

Entrance bug

• Weird moving square on Entrance windows, only visible when inside the facility. Outside works correctly
  Moon reported: Ingression from @timber sail's Moons

[sacred wharf]

Oh a projection matrix issue

It basically means that because of float error (it looks like) the camera near clip distance is too close from a surface and sometimes overlaps

[pliant mulch]

Happens to a good chunk of my moons and interiors too

Meant to report it too but I lowkey forgot

[bright grove]

I have no idea

[bright grove]

Maybe the portal screen is a little bit inside of the wall on the outside?

Actually that wouldn't matter

[sick tartan]

probably, is there a way to fix it to tell them?

[bright grove]

I'm not using any custom projection matrix for the portal camera

[sacred wharf]

Oh ?

How did you do ?

[bright grove]

I'm just using some math to adjust the near clip plane no be right at the door based on the closest position on the mesh. It's not perfect, but it works most of the time. I'm doing this because using a custom projection matrix messes up the rendering of fog and stuff

The code is on GitHub if you want to take a deeper dive

[sacred wharf]

Oh I see

Sounds very similar, I wonder why it affects the rendering

[wispy flicker]

WHAT IS THAT

[robust gyro]

an artifact from LC's shader

[wispy flicker]

Fair

[timber sail]

man discovers render quality and pixelation

[lament wasp]

WTF IS THAT

[sacred wharf]

Sir

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-life-a-bugs-life-bruh-not-smiling-ants-not-smiling-gif-8815283262918161887

[lament wasp]

hehehe

[wispy flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-dance-gif-23861627

[pliant mulch]

Where’s Goku

[toxic tangle]

hmmm

[sacred wharf]

Do you think I could make Backrooms Renewed mod compatible with this or I'll have to make my own outside-preview myself

[lament wasp]

how could you make this compatible? isnt it that you enter when you take damage or smth like that?

[potent wagon]

the fact she's edited out of the picture later 💔

fuck you eroboy araki

[toxic tangle]

this mod really eats frames can you add an eco mode that's just a picture/cubemap of the outside and scale the brightness to time of day instead of a full render

[bright grove]

Naur

[vivid quest]

-# i think that defeats the whole point

[bright grove]

Try setting the portal's pixel resolution lower in the config settings

[toxic tangle]

nah it still more immersive than glow on window also having it in place of the default look might actually ease the activation

funny thing is the framerate drops significantly regardless of settings

ill mess with it again

[bright grove]

There is something I could optimize though, the portal still renders when you are looking at the back face of the portal screen

[toxic tangle]

could you also add padding fade to the activation range

"snap back to reality" - eminem, isn't really subtle

yeah regardless of settings it cuts my frames in half ig I'll just leave the activation range at 2.5 as a peering option

[lament wasp]

is your pc bad?

[toxic tangle]

234 modlist

3060ti idk if you'd say that's bad

[lament wasp]

thats not bad at all

no idea why its going bad for you

unless you mean bad as in i usually have 300 fps and now i have 270 fps lol

[toxic tangle]

bad as in 180 to 60 high to low ball for effect

[lament wasp]

whathehell

do you have any performance mods?

[toxic tangle]

019e8574-1820-e348-c8d5-565718353501

[lament wasp]

is that a yes

hehe

[toxic tangle]

yes

[lament wasp]

i would think a lot more people would be reporting fps loss like that, so maybe one of your mods messes up with immersiveentrance? have you tried the mod alone?

[bronze coral]

https://tenor.com/view/tcal-tcoaal-the-coffin-of-andy-and-leyley-coffin-gif-15943788847088904700

[toxic tangle]

no because I don't plan to use the mod alone

it's probably lethal sponge

[lament wasp]

well if the mod alone also eats your fps then it might be something with the mod, if only eats your fps in your pack it means something in your pack

[toxic tangle]

I still think a cube map would be a good idea beyond activation range as an LOD option

[lament wasp]

well, zehs already said no

[toxic tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/catsegment-gif-27592398

[toxic tangle]

just tested it happens with only the mod

[lament wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-cheese-among-us-sus-gif-26551874

[sacred wharf]

That said, should be possible to dynamically define screen resolution with a fisheye shader to decrease pixel usage of the pane

This is an optimization technique used for shadows and distant shadows