ImmersiveEntrance

[bright grove]

See the other side through the main entrance doors.

Who needs this mod installed for it to work? Only you!

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Zehs/ImmersiveEntrance/

[wild wren]

where mod

[lament wasp]

WAIT WHAT

[sick tartan]

ooh!

[wild wren]

mod is kil

[bright grove]

Uploading it right now

[wild wren]

kil

[hard vapor]

#1229912303588212796 time

[fast flame]

You gave the wrongo link I think

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Zehs/ImmersiveEntrance/

[bright grove]

I made this post early so I can link it in my README

[sick tartan]

It's like the other Immersive Entrance on WIP mod!

But finally here!

[fast flame]

Oh lul, it was actually not in the database yet

[bright grove]

Wait what?

[lament wasp]

quite a few people tried to do a seamless entrance

to no success

so getting this mod out of nowhere is so crazy

[bright grove]

[hard vapor]

well this is less seamless

more like

[lament wasp]

shhhhh

[hard vapor]

more immserive

[lament wasp]

ooohhh i get it

still better

[hard vapor]

still way better than normal

[lament wasp]

ye

seamless might be way too hard to do

[hard vapor]

ofc with modded interiors it aint gonna do much

for the inside

at least

[lament wasp]

aw :c

[hard vapor]

but from outside at least

[hard vapor]

since quite a few use custom doors

but you can at least see them from outside

[fast flame]

Can I comment on this real quick Zeh

private static bool TryLoadAsset<T>(string name, AssetBundle assetBundle, out T asset) where T : Object
        {
            asset = LoadAsset<T>(name, assetBundle);
            return (Object)(object)asset != (Object)null;
        }

You got painfully close to doing a TryX pattern right but you seem to have forgor the [NotNullWhen(true)] decoration on the out T Asset to tell the IDE its fine if this is null sometimes and make it look like [NotNullWhen(true)] out T? Asset

[glass ledge]

Question remains-

Mod compatible?

[hard vapor]

if you mean modded doors?

[torn gust]

omg omg i cant wait to try this!!

[hard vapor]

surely not

[glass ledge]

👀

Ah

[hard vapor]

I do wonder if some devs could add compat tho

[fast flame]

Doing it that way removes the need to have a default(T) in your get methods above too

[bright grove]

I don't have Nullable enabled in my project, but I could enable it

[fast flame]

RAAH

Imagine not using nullables in the year of our lord 2026

[bright grove]

Yeah...

[fast flame]

squeezes Zeh

[hard vapor]

real question, is there a way for interior devs with custom main doors to add support

[glass ledge]

I have vanilla inspired interiors that have normal doors and I want to see if it functions

Gonna test it

[hearty shoal]

this is sawesome duder

[torn gust]

OH IT ADDS GLASS TO THE MANSION DOORS WHAT

[lament wasp]

WHAT

[torn gust]

i was just about to say this would make chameleon's fancy main doors unfortunate

[lament wasp]

me when i cry of peak

[torn gust]

it would definitely need compatibility for this thoughu

[potent wagon]

holy FUCK

[bright grove]

I'm not sure how compatible this will be with modded moons and interiors

[wild wren]

pleaseeee!!

neeed...!!! compatibility..!!!!! URGHHH!!!

[fast flame]

Mod rejected for being too scary

I don't like looking thru the door and seeing monsters

[lament wasp]

robyn... its a mirror..

[torn gust]

this is actually the coolest thing ever

i just tried it

[hearty shoal]

i'm very curious how this is achieved

[bright grove]

I'm glad

It was a pain to figure out

[torn gust]

only slight nitpicks i have are that it could look nice with a fade-in of the interior showing up instead of popping in, and the outdoor fog doesn't show from the inside

[hearty shoal]

is it screenspace?

[torn gust]

but still this is insanely amazing

[hearty shoal]

fair enough

this will be a keeper mod for sure

[bright grove]

I was thinking about fading the portal screen in, but that can be done later. I tried having fog and it doesn't look right in the portal camera. I'm not smart enough to figure it out. I'm still pretty new to HDRP and rendering stuff

[torn gust]

yeah no take ur time

[hearty shoal]

it is still unbelievably awesome =3

[bright grove]

I'm so happy that I got the lighting right though when looking into the facility/outside

[torn gust]

like

affasjfnkljb kjla

[high cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/project-hail-mary-rocky-ryan-gosling-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-gif-10719095557049564481

[bronze coral]

WHAT

[wild wren]

https://klipy.com/gifs/project-hail-mary--k01KQSJDJQ44H52N0RTEX2Z69Q7

[high cedar]

cant believe many old idea from lethalexpansion era being brought back as new this year

[hard vapor]

oh it only works for vanilla interiors, sads

[high cedar]

still a win

[potent wagon]

still awesome as fuck

[torn gust]

AND it's client side too????

chefs kiss

[hard vapor]

loose for me

I aint using it sadly since i hate inconsistancy

[high cedar]

🥀

[torn gust]

hrm it look a little funky on dine

[wild wren]

Fuck dine

[torn gust]

true

[high cedar]

adding compat for custom interior sounds like a nightmare given how many custom doors there is
unless u wanna resort to replacing the whole door with vanilla door somehow which still like a lot of work or some other way
unless zehs wanna do it ofc

[wild wren]

will it still work with any interior that uses vanilla doors?

for example, generic's interiors?

or is it more complex then that

[high cedar]

in an ideal world we have this attached to the doorscript and it just works *me talking from my tiny brain

anyway good work on this

[hard vapor]

ok so it looks like it works but is kinda bugged

at least for me

it pops out when you get close

[bright grove]

I'm not sure how moons/interiors with fully custom main entrance doors would be compatible. For moons/interiors that use the default Lethal Company doors, I would say just have a main entrance door set up similar to the vanilla moons. You must have a OutsideEntranceVisualDoorsContainer GameObject structured exactly like vanilla with the GameObjects having the same names. You should also put your door frame GameObject in here and name it DoorFrame.

[hard vapor]

but works further away

[hard vapor]

was just posting an issue I was running into

[wild wren]

which interior is that?

[hard vapor]

storehouse

[bright grove]

I don't really know what that means

[bright grove]

It should work

[supple skiff]

after almost 2 years it's finally here!

[bright grove]

I'm curious what the other attempts of a mod like this looked like

I don't remember seeing any other mods like this before

[high cedar]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1202534076855357480

[hard vapor]

distance override configs dont seem to work

[bright grove]

Oh nyo

[hard vapor]

I set them to max and it was the same

[bright grove]

Which distance configs, activation or view?

[hard vapor]

view

I dont see activation in the config

[lament wasp]

it was different, it never dropped, always WIP, it was a seamless entrance where you would open the door and enter to the interior yourself, instead of a tp

[hard vapor]

im fairly sure it was still a tp

just a sneaky one

[lament wasp]

thats the idea yeah

[bright grove]

I see. I was thinking about that, but that's a lot more work. The custom moons/interiors compat would also be a nightmare

[high cedar]

yeah its a tp but it also doin what zehs do here but with larger scale

[bright grove]

The portal camera's rendering still isn't perfect, so it would look a bit weird too walking through

[hard vapor]

I have a feeling this will get a few patches haha

oh yeah a config to turn off the blue tint would be nice

wait is that a bug or intentional

[bright grove]

That's part of the door model 🥲

[hard vapor]

damn lol

not a big deal

I do hope the issues with custom interiors could be worked out since it seems hit or miss

(talking viewing from outside)

ofc custom doors wouldnt work

[bright grove]

There are configs to disable the portals per moon and interior

[high cedar]

ohhhhhhhhhhh

[hard vapor]

thats not what I meant

think I found the thing, if it has a custom door inside, cant see from outside either

[bright grove]

I'm just saying, so you don't just have a bugged looking portal enabled on incompatible moons/interiors

[high cedar]

wait so is the mod being attached to the actual door model or the interact area

[bright grove]

The portal is being attached to the GameObject with the EntranceTeleport script

[hard vapor]

oh there isnt a bugged portal

it just wont exist

if interior door is custom

[bright grove]

The position and rotation of the portal screen is dynamically set

[hard vapor]

actually I just realized

maybe issue is cullfactory?

id not be surprised if it conflicted

[bright grove]

I have not tested this mod with CullFactory

[high cedar]

oh yea i can see more reason this be a nightmare for compat without manual blacklisting lol
some interiors have weird placement for the interact place sometimes misaligned with the door model

[hard vapor]

ill check soon

[fast flame]

https://tenor.com/view/patpat-gif-12576663171851424050

@bright grove

good jorb, pat

pat pat

[bright grove]

[high cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/head-pat-cat-cat-head-pat-cat-pat-kiki-gif-12035753500620958402

[bright grove]

[vivid quest]

we are so close to having 8-3: DISINTEGRATION LOOP be an actual thing.

[lament wasp]

one more ultrakill reference

[supple skiff]

When attempting to load into a moon with this mod, some of "mones interiors" is causing the game to freeze in orbit when trying to load said interior with the viewable portal (Incompatibility). Awesome mod though!

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/MonesMonesowicz/Mones_Interiors/

[quasi monolith]

this mod seems really cool can't wait to try it in my pack

[fleet oriole]

How well does this mod work in vr?

[bright grove]

I don't own a VR headset, so I have no idea

[bright grove]

I do not see any errors related to this mod in your log file

[rose siren]

this is really cool! my only real issue is fog not rendering on the other side, but i don't know how hard that would be to implement

[bright grove]

I don't know how to make fog render properly in the portal camera

[rose siren]

cadavers don't seem to render through the portal camera, actually

[spare cloak]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TKronix/VR_Shader_Fix/

maybe this will fix the bug

[wild wren]

from 01/02/24

oh I didn't mean to forward that here

[fleet oriole]

or add the vr package then build the bundle. that will make native support rather havint to rely on an mod to support it 🙂

[fleet oriole]

There is an Unity package that you'd need to install to make it compatible in vr. to test it you can install steamvr and have the launch argrument to nohmd or something and it'll basically do the same thing

in other words. you dont actually need an vr, you just gotta make sure that both eyes see the same thing. in ''Display VR View''

[toxic tangle]

If there's a way to lerp the visual effect for range falloff it would seem less harsh and snappy. Also an option to temporarily lower visual quality automatically to ultra performance when radiation is present when looking inside for simulating something like lethal radiation. the mansion door should have options to not have windows and either way it doesn't have them on both sides which is pretty immersion breaking. I'd also like to see options to fake the post processing/lighting outside with emissive/transparent textures and exterior render distance fade (if possible for moons like rend/dine/titan). Also the option to disable looking one way or another.

[toxic tangle]

vow

[broken whale]

WHAT WHAT WHAT

[hearty shoal]

red trees of doom and despair

[broken whale]

this exists now???

[hearty shoal]

evil trees

[toxic tangle]

ik red trees must be a new weather

[hearty shoal]

the mansion doors had windows added because in vanilla the exterior door is always the default "facility door" that has a window

[broken whale]

i was talking about the mod itself

[hearty shoal]

so it "makes sense" to add a window to the mansion door on the inside

[potent wagon]

ik that's the LODs for the trees but I did NOT know they were that red lol

[hearty shoal]

chameleon makes the exterior door a "fancy door" if its a mansion (or other supported interior) so i doubt that's going to play nice without compatibility

[broken whale]

the red trees are probably from the diffusion profile not being used or something

since fog isnt either

[hearty shoal]

do you have chameleon

[toxic tangle]

oh

[hearty shoal]

because this isn't a vanilla feature

[toxic tangle]

yes

[hearty shoal]

that explains it

[toxic tangle]

even still window toggle would be nice

[broken whale]

Why are all of the cool mods and modpacks coming out as soon as I can't play the game 😭

[hearty shoal]

i mean i guess

[toxic tangle]

you got some pretty baller stuff yourself

[hearty shoal]

whaa

[sick tartan]

maybe while the opening animation you can see inside

[toxic tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/correct-plankton-gif-14118231

[broken whale]

how compatible is this with modded interiors and moons

[toxic tangle]

scroll up

[broken whale]

ic

[sick tartan]

it works with some custom interiors, but other you can't see the other side, like generic interiors

[broken whale]

a lot of mods are going to need to make compatibility on their end

[sick tartan]

yup, chameleon is one of them :,]

[toxic tangle]

OH the red trees might be because i cleared the weather on eclipsed or just eclipsed

[broken whale]

#1501761071067693137 message

trees have a tendancy to turn magenta when diffusion profiles arent used

[toxic tangle]

o

[supple skiff]

It works only for the endless hall dungeon. Now the entrance just doesn't fit on the inside, though.

[keen hearth]

Found the weirdest bug:
When you have this mod installed the external Scrap display from general Improvement doesn't detect any scrap

[quick hedge]

That and maybe making it so you can hear sounds from the other side and vise versa.

[hybrid path]

Okay so, this looks REALLY fucking cool
would you consider, since we can't really get fog, perhaps adding like a small configurable visual effect that makes it a bit darker while looking through the windows? Like yeah, you can see, but the details are a tad hard to make out?

that way when you go in or out it doesn't suddenly feel like "oop fog popped in", yanno

it feels like you're seeing through a tinted window or the like

[toxic tangle]

I said something like that earlier faking the outside, obscuring it, or chosing when to hide it

[hybrid path]

regardless I imagine you're looking into options, just a suggestion

this looks REALLY incredible Crit

[toxic tangle]

agreed but I think the whiteboard is just as cool (waiting on that release like rita repulsa)

[hybrid path]

the whiteboard effect is a simpler and more practical approach that is likely to be way less buggy with other mods, but this is truly something special

[toxic tangle]

that's why i like it

[stuck cliff]

this looks very cool

lemme know if there's issues with CullFactory, not sure how it'll handle if the position of the camera is outside the dungeon

[stuck cliff]

yeowch my hand

also not sure what exactly is causing the drastic difference in visuals for the exterior, but whatever is going on there you might be able to resolve similarly to how OpenBodyCams does using the HDRP camera callbacks

...or even depend on OpenBodyCams for the reverb trigger tracking, but I don't know if that's worth it lol

I forget if it would even work for something like this

I'm also curious how this works with vanilla culling, does it just always render the interior when the player is outside?

actually, I think it only works because the last place the camera was after teleporting is at the door, so if zeekerss changes it to cull the interior when outside, it would break

[bronze coral]

Reverbtrigger

Iirc thats the one that changes the visuals and quite a few teleport mods also had the issue where if you tpd in from outside or vice versa the visuals were messed up

[bronze coral]

I infact did not read the rest of your messages

I’ll see myself out

[stuck cliff]

right, I'm more thinking of what is being changed by it

I don't recall what experimentation does with the fog when you go inside

if it's moving it under the floor like it does when you go inside the ship, I think it's kinda cooked except through OpenBodyCams integration

but my weather override system doesn't work with mods because weather mods didn't converge on a system similar to vanilla

hence why it's disabled by default

[bronze coral]

Im a bit curious now i’ll check it in the morning

[bright grove]

I don't see how that would happen because of my mod

[bright grove]

whiteboard effect?

[keen hearth]

I don’t either but I‘ll test it again on a clean profile in a minute

[bright grove]

I'll have to look into that, thank you ^w^

[bright grove]

I just call StartOfRound.Instance.occlusionCuller.SetToStartTile(); once when the player enters the activation range and is looking at the portal screen mesh

[keen hearth]

NVM I'm sorry
Was just a coincidence that it stopped working when I turn on your mod and started working again when I turned it off

[bright grove]

Okie

[stuck cliff]

ooh I see, did you find that to be necessary? From my initial investigation of the culling component, it seemed to keep the existing current tile when the player left

in case you were curious though, CullFactory selects tiles per camera in the camera callbacks to cull for, so I need to look into which tile it selects for your portal camera

[bright grove]

Yeah, I had to do it. Otherwise I would just see the void and floating doors

[stuck cliff]

oh interesting, okay

maybe I misread it

[uncut estuary]

my programmer fell off 😔 🥀

[stuck cliff]

I did test CullFactory against it earlier, and it did seem not to be getting the culling right, but not sure if it's because the tile selection was wrong or because the frustum itself behaves strangely with this type of projection matrix

[bright grove]

I think you only have to call the function once ever to always render the interior, or just enter the interior once

[stuck cliff]

ah, then I didn't misread, that would make sense lol

if he ever changes it in future, you might start having to call it every frame, not sure

[sudden inlet]

You can not back out of a lobby if this mod is installed

It throws an error

[bright grove]

Every frame would be kinda crazy

[stuck cliff]

well it updates the current tile every frame while you're inside

[bright grove]

I've backed out of lobbies hundreds of times with this installed

[stuck cliff]

the only reason it doesn't override that call currently is that it just skips setting it if it doesn't find atile

which is not what's intended, since that means the interior and everything in it is still appearing while outside

but ideally, zeekerss would use camera callbacks

I thiiiiink I suggested it in his discord

[bright grove]

What is the error?

[bright grove]

Thank you. It was a bit of an oversight. It'll be fixed in the next update I release

[sudden inlet]

[bright grove]

For now you can just land on a moon and exit the lobby and that should work

I'll try to look into improving the portal camera's rendering accuracy to match the player camera later today if I have time

[wild wren]

does this not work for mineshafts..?

it's just adamance

adamance does not work

mineshaft works perfectly fine on experimentation, and nothing works on adamance

[wild wren]

and the three times i tested it, it came up with the error there

and why is the world so green..

[bright grove]

What weather do you have?

[wild wren]

clear

wasn't green last time i tested it

last night

[bright grove]

I'll need to see your full logs to know why it didn't spawn

[wild wren]

did it work on adamance in your testing?

[wild wren]

green on the inverse too

[bright grove]

The outside portal worked on Adamance when I tested, but I don't think I got Mineshaft interior. It should have worked

[bright grove]

What is the time of day?

[wild wren]

normal

not locked

it was around

11

11 in the morning

[bright grove]

Can you send me your full log file?

[wild wren]

done did

in dms

[bright grove]

I'll check it out soon

[wild wren]

is there any known reason why it's... green..

https://klipy.com/gifs/azumanga-daioh-sakaki-2--k01KR41S0W6DHD78THW8KHP5QDP

[bright grove]

I have no idea

If you get Mineshaft on Adamance again and the portals don't spawn, I would appreciate your full logs

[wild wren]

it breaks no matter if it's mineshaft or not

only on adamance

this is a new development

i can send full logs of mansion, facility and mineshaft interiors loading on adamance if you want

i think i've just sent facility for now

[bright grove]

That should be enough

[wild wren]

NEW DEVELOPMENT

IT ONLY GOES GREEN WHEN POLTERGEIST IS ENABLED

[wild wren]

is there any chance you know why poltergeist makes it go green...

[sick tartan]

could be worth informing this in poltergesti thread
#1224954169375461377

[bright grove]

||Did Zeekerss just update the game? Why is there vegetation inside Adamance?||

[wild wren]

that is not normal...

[bright grove]

||I don't ever remember seeing boxes inside like that, so It must be intentional||

[wild wren]

forwarded from poltergeist thread

just a better look

[bright grove]

I have an idea to why it might be getting green

[wild wren]

oooh...

[broken whale]

is this vanilla?

[bright grove]

I have some mods on, but probably none that would do that

[broken whale]

that looks like that modded factory interior

[bright grove]

Ohhh yeah

[fast flame]

dingus

[bright grove]

You are right

I forgot I had an interior mod on. I didn't think it would have something like that

[potent wagon]

ye i think that might be mones'

[bright grove]

It was

[wild wren]

may i hear why

[bright grove]

It might be because I am finding all of the global Volumes on the default layer in the scene and copying them over to the portal camera. I did this because the CustomPass is on the default layer and causes really weird visual bugs on the portal camera. I have to copy all these Volumes over because I need to make them local and only affect a specific layer that the portal camera is listening to

Oh, I just realized that I should be checking if the found volume is disabled or not and disable it on the copy. That might fix it

[wild wren]

oh hell yes..

if you can manage to get a fixed version out pretty soon i'd be so pleased, i've got a gamenight later

no rush though i've told my friends about the greenification problem and they don't really care

[tame basalt]

Absolute cinema.

[bright grove]

ImmersiveEntrance - Update v1.0.1

• Fixed not being able to quit out of a pre-game lobby if you haven't landed on any moons yet.
• Fixed portals not spawning on the moon Adamance.

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Zehs/ImmersiveEntrance/

[wild wren]

did you do anything with the green problem?

i assume not because it's not documented

[bright grove]

I didn't look into that yet

[wild wren]

oh okay

[next tendon]

can the mansion door windows be disabled?

[bright grove]

@wild wren Just as I expected, their Volume got copied over to the portal camera.

[bright grove]

Yes, just set ReplaceDoor to false under the Interior: Mansion category

[wild wren]

thank the heavens...

[bright grove]

ImmersiveEntrance - Update v1.0.2

• Fixed the Poltergeist mod causing the portal screen to become tinted green.

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Zehs/ImmersiveEntrance/

[keen hearth]

that was quick

[wild wren]

death to green

[bright grove]

I just realized that I could fix the rendering issues by turning off Custom Pass in the camera's Rendering settings. I don't need to copy over all of the global Volumes to not have custom pass. This makes it so much simpler

[sick tartan]

neat!

[bright grove]

This is how fog looks when I try to turn it on. I have no idea how to fix it

@stuck cliff

[tame basalt]

That looks weird, like the fog just isn't transparent or something when viewed through those cameras, unfortunately I do not have any shader
-# (or much code)
experience, but that defo don't look right, maybe if other cameras render it like in the ship you could check how they work and see if you can get fog rendering from those? Or maybe even check with Scoops to see how she did the now official LC single pass shader and if she has knowledge on camera rendering? Idk.

[stuck cliff]

turn on the custom pass you mean?

having the custom pass on in the camera seems like it should be correct, if you exclude the portal material from the custom pass

but that is odd if it's doing that

do you have volumetric fog on? the custom pass samples it separately so if you have it off that may be why it looks weird

also not sure if there are ways that the fog might not show up based on your camera settings other than frame settings overrides

[toxic tangle]

try emoting and looking at the door

[bright grove]

Do you know how I could exclude the portal material from the custom pass?

[stuck cliff]

I'm not actually sure, I've seen other people talking about it

maybe @uncut estuary knows

[uncut estuary]

I have one eye open let me wake up 😭
But I also have no idea

I haven't touched custom passes in a while

[stuck cliff]

aw damn

maybe it's someone else that I saw talking about it

[stuck cliff]

oh right, Scoops would certainly know if no one else

it's probably been discussed in the Sponge thread

[sick tartan]

What would Interior devs would have to do to make their interiors compatible with the Immersive Entrance?

[bright grove]

ImmersiveEntrance Compatibility

Having your main entrance door set up like this should be enough to make it compatible for moons and interiors. It's very important that you do not rename the door objects. If you have a custom door, name the objects just like vanilla.

Door frame names:

• DoorFrame (1)
• DoorFrame
• WideDoorFrame (1)

Door view blocker names:

• Plane
• LightBehindDoor

-# The view blocker is that black or yellow plane behind the door

Door left names:

• SteelDoorFake
• DoorMesh (1)

Door right names:

• SteelDoorFake (1)
• DoorMesh

[sick tartan]

can you add here a title like "ImmersiveEntrance Compatibility" or smth like that?

that way it'd be easier to forward to people :]

thx!

[bright grove]

I'm thinking I could also enable moon and interior devs to set up an invisible plane where they can specify the position, rotaion, and bounds of the portal screen. They would need to name the object something specific and parent it under their GameObject with the EntranceTeleport script

I might be able to provide a special prefab for that

[sick tartan]

neat!

[potent wagon]

that'd be sick ye

[bright grove]

[sick tartan]

btw, small possible request, add a small window on the fire exit door

[bright grove]

Maybe

[sick tartan]

good enough ^^

[bright grove]

This is the max size the main entrance portal screen can be. There are ways to make it smaller though, since the Mansion door frame is smaller, but outside will still render the normal size

This is how I'm adding specific settings to vanilla interiors, but moon and interior devs will be able to do this through the editor without including any scripts into their mod.

[stone notch]

@bright grove does this work on modded moons

[bright grove]

I'm not sure. I haven't tested any modded moons yet. I have tested on some modded interiors and it kinda works, but sometimes the door portal is misaligned

[sick tartan]

should be good testing

[bright grove]

I didn't add any support for fire exits because there is no open animation, but since I've been able to add windows to the mansion main entrance doors, I could do that

[hybrid path]

If the objects are still named the same but the heirarchy is a bit different, will it still work? Example:

or does the heirarchy need to match yours exactly

cuz for example, I prefer to have the Teleport separate from the VisualDoorsContainer in case of any weird edge case scenarios

(These are still under Teleports, btw)

[bright grove]

I'm guessing EntranceMain doesn't have any scripts on it?

[hybrid path]

it does not

ah, you're hunting for objects with the Entrance Teleport script, aren't ya

clever

[bright grove]

If you put Plane inside of your OutsideEntranceVisualDoors GameObject, it should work!

[hybrid path]

aight, I'll try that

cuz that's very doable

[bright grove]

Here is how this mod finds door objects incase anyone is curious
EntranceObjectsHelper.cs

[hybrid path]

and if not I'll wait for the fix where I can just create a separate Plane object :3

lemme lookie at dis

man your code is so clean, every function blocked out

nothing like mine

we love if statement hell

[bright grove]

Thank you :3

[hybrid path]

aight my doors are all prefabbed so that was really easy

moons should be fixed next update (which should be soonish as Sorrow has a critical issue that seemingly nobody but me has noticed, Carnage needs bugfixes and v0.4.0, and Gorgonzola, well, exists)

okay actually it does appear to work fine even without doing that

if you ever figure out how to get the fog to render too it'll be ACTUALLY perfect but ik that's a task

and this is still incredible

[bright grove]

Yippee!

[hybrid path]

Carnage in particular looks a wee bit silly without the fog aha

[potent wagon]

that looks amazing

[potent wagon]

oh yeah my moons will probably look pretty garbo w it

they all have fog that prevents the player from seeing the edge of the water so you'll just see a hard cutoff

[hybrid path]

mhm, but this is still incredible even if a bit silly on certain moons

[potent wagon]

100% lol I think it's amazing

[hybrid path]

I assume it's normal for it to cull after a certain distance? @bright grove

[bright grove]

Yes, the portal camera looking outside has a view distance of 250 meters and inside has a view distance of 50 meters

[hybrid path]

Makes sense

[potent wagon]

ye that's pretty reasonable

[bright grove]

Those settings are configurable in the config

[hybrid path]

oh wow yeah even configurable per interior

cuz Slaughterhouse has such a big, flat main entrance so it's kinda obvious when it culls on Slaughterhouse

[bright grove]

You can also enable HideDoorObjects to only see the portal screen

[hybrid path]

oooh 👀

[bright grove]

Makes debugging easier

[potent wagon]

oh that's incredible then lol

[lament wasp]

I wonder, now there is compat for modded stuff, but how could modded doors have this implemented?

[potent wagon]

just name them the same way vanilla doors are named

[lament wasp]

Say chameleon or modded entrances

[potent wagon]

like, name every component that way

[hybrid path]

cuz yeah Slaughterhouse would benefit from a default of 100

[potent wagon]

oh do cham entrances not work?

[hybrid path]

also, even if you don't do that, Crit mentioned that in the future it may be possible for modded interior / moon devs to set their own plane

[lament wasp]

Idk, havent tested

[bright grove]

That'll be possible once I add better support for modders, or I can manually add it to the mod. I can set a default view distance in these settings

[hybrid path]

so even if the door looks super different, interiors can have their own thing set, as long as they have windows or an open animation in the first place (which a lot of modded interiors don't)

[lament wasp]

I know this mod adds windows to mansion entrance

[hybrid path]

yeah but dynamically adding windows to EVERY modded interior is a tall ask

like a very tall ask

[lament wasp]

Oh i didnt mean that

Was just ponting out mansion has windows now hehe

And chameleon uses mansion door for outside, maybe it does work but havent tested :3

Adding windows is not necessary, specially since now the doors have animation

So you can see inside or outside without needing a window!!!

[hybrid path]

Yeah if you wanna! I wouldn't be against it. Flow is just called "SlaughterhouseFlow", defaulting to 100 would be nice

it just uses regular facility doors, main is just beeg so it's very obvious at 50m

[bright grove]

[hybrid path]

I feel like I remember Slaughterhouse needing a bugfix now but I don't remember what it was

OH nvm I rember

thank Nikki for changelogs

[hybrid path]

but yeah ||Sorrow currently hard crashes Unity if you crash into a tree with the Cruiser so that's uh, a bit of an important bug I should probably release a fix for soon||

[bright grove]

I'll need to fix CullFactory compatibility

[hybrid path]

that makes sense

[bright grove]

at least you can see the first tile

[hybrid path]

true

hey you'll maybe barely be able to tell in Slaughterhouse probably not really cuz the doorway is so fuckin big

[bright grove]

[quaint lion]

It works on my interior, that's the fusebox light there on the left, but it doesn't seem to render anything else

Mineshaft kind of works the same way, I can't see anything except the lights when the interior is mineshaft until I'm very close to the window, just in my interior's case it never renders the inside

[wild wren]

chamelon works with the mansion exterior door. It's just to make it not look wrong you have to turn the windows off on the interior doors via immersive entrance's config

you can still see through the middle of the door when you open it

[bright grove]

Are you using CullFactory?

[quaint lion]

Yes, that's with cullfactory

[bright grove]

This mod isn't fully compatible with CullFactory yet

[quaint lion]

Okay, cool, just wanted to make sure there wasn't anything wrong on my end.

[lament wasp]

lets gooo

[delicate abyss]

The void

[sick tartan]

sup hat!

realy neat mod this one

[delicate abyss]

yes ive been lurking it since the start, i always wanted something like this

hows the performance? since its a camera right?

[sick tartan]

it's good :]

[chilly sapphire]

what inerior is THAT??

that looks freaking awesome

[austere herald]

SlaughterHouse from Nikki herself

[lament wasp]

Devour peak hehe

[hybrid path]

What they said, Slaughterhouse c:

[chilly sapphire]

oh shoot lmao

thats crazy

[chilly sapphire]

super cool interior, will 100% be playing it! :D

[hybrid path]

Wesley and I even made a trailer for it that's pinned in my thread if you want to go check it out

Definitely one of my favorite projects

[chilly sapphire]

oh woah the big Wesly?

thats crazy

I'll def be checking that out

[hybrid path]

I mean Wesley is the one who introduced me to DEVOUR, the game it's based on

[chilly sapphire]

oh intresting

ive heard of that game

[hybrid path]

He's really fun to hang out with when he's not completely absorbed into updating or making new stuff Unfortunately, when he IS cooking, he tends to vanish

[spare cloak]

oh my god i love this mod i've been waiting for it for a long time

[sonic sphinx]

@bright grove could we get an option in config to disable mansion door windows and just have the outside doors become mansion doors if the mansion is the interior

[bright grove]

#1501761071067693137 message

[bright grove]

I don't know about replacing the outside door yet

Maybe in the future

[sonic sphinx]

Aah

[tall snow]

and just have the outside doors become mansion doors if the mansion is the interior
this is a thing in Chameleon if you're interested in that

[lament wasp]

Use chameleon

[lament wasp]

Haii cookieee

[tall snow]

haaaiii

[lament wasp]

[wispy flicker]

Wasn't there a mod that opened the facility doors in real time if I'm not mistaken?

Similar to this one but they actually opened

[lament wasp]

No

Was a wip

Never released

[wispy flicker]

Would have paired perfectly

[lament wasp]

I dont rhink it would have paired, since the other mod would have done this same feature plus actually opening the doot

Door

Seamless entrance hehe

But yeah noone was able to figure out a way to do it good enough

Im really glad we got this mod tho, might not be the same but it honestly might be even better hehe

Zehs cooked heh

[sonic sphinx]

I already heard good stuff about the mod

[thick gazelle]

I have the same problem and dont use cull factory

[sonic sphinx]

@bright grove if im a few feet away from the door i dont see the inside or outside and from inside i cant see the moon's fog

[hybrid path]

Fog doesn't render through the portal and the distance is intentional for performance and can be changed in the config

[sonic sphinx]

ok

[bright grove]

Can you send me your profile code?

[sonic sphinx]

the portal should have fog, @bright grove can that be added next update

[bright grove]

#1501761071067693137 message

[hybrid path]

it's not that simple my guy, please read before suggesting things

[sonic sphinx]

dude i was inside and seeing purple trees on vow

also fog for immersion

it will take time to figure out, just think on it i guess

[thick gazelle]

019e1386-402c-3d86-f8aa-11f42fbe2bb6

[glass ledge]

What interiors are currently compatible or at least don't look broken/work

[sweet snow]

if you just copy and paste from the vanilla moons, it should be fine right?

[hybrid path]

you're kinda just gonna have to see for now. If they use vanilla doors and are structured correctly and updated, they most likely work. if not, they probably don't.

[glass ledge]

ah k

[potent wagon]

most likely, yeah

[sweet snow]

hmm, I think this is a problem with the position

[fleet oriole]

I think he just wants to give you an hug 🤗

[sweet snow]

https://tenor.com/view/address-me-gif-3314967408153193330

[bronze coral]

Holy cow

[stuck cliff]

@bright grove whenever you look at CullFactory compat, lemme know if there's anything I need to do, but I'm curious, any idea if the camera view origin can change independently of its transform position? If so, you might be able to fix it without hooks, otherwise I may need to add some camera origin override system

seems like maybe overriding worldToCameraMatrix while leaving the camera position at the door could work if I'm reading correctly

[sick tartan]

also the fog has some issues

[stuck cliff]

yea that's nothing to do with CullFactory, not sure what the issue is there

definitely something I could try to help look into when I'm not busy, but I feel like Scoop might be a better bet for that

[bright grove]

@misty swift Please help. I don't know how to make the custom pass ignore my portal shader/material. With the custom pass on, it's giving me weird results and fog doesn't work correctly. With custom pass off, fog still doesn't work.

[delicate abyss]

🥺

[bright grove]

.

Portal Camera settings: Custom Pass ON with Fog ON

The ground gets really dark for some reason when you are far from the portal with Custom Pass enabled

Portal Camera settings: Custom Pass OFF with Fog ON

[lament wasp]

OMG i got scared i thought you found a way to instantly tp between them

Love the fog tho its peakkkk

https://tenor.com/view/dead-chat-dead-group-chat-dead-chat-xd-gif-11830707118005268792

[bright grove]

The fog is not supposed to look like that

[lament wasp]

Its fog tho!

[misty swift]

So this is a camera to a rendertexture for the portal?
And you're toggling the outline/color grading pass on that camera?

[bright grove]

Yes to both

I'm not good at HDRP or Rendering, so your help is very much appreciated

[misty swift]

so it's been a moment, but if I remember correctly the lethal custom pass is a bit funny in that it actually re-applies volumetric fog within the pass
So by having the main camera looking at the portal, and the portal rendering with the pass, you're getting 2 layers of the pass and ~4 layers of fog

I think the best way to handle this would be to overwrite the main custom pass to support a pre-pass that disables it for certain materials

and then have the portal use that material, so that it doesn't get rendered with the pass on the main camera

If you're familiar with HLSL shader code a bit, my thinking is you would alter the custom pass.
Right now it does two passes, one for ReadColor and one for WriteColor.

If you add another DrawFullScreen before ReadColor, that writes a buffer that has one color for materials that should be affected by the pass and a different color for materials that should be excluded.
Then you pass that buffer into an altered version of the pass shader, one that checks that buffer first and doesn't apply any of the outline/color grade/etc if the color matches the exclude color.

Then the mod just needs to swap the base game custom pass/shader with your new one, and then you'll be able to exclude the portals from the custom pass.

[bright grove]

I am not familiar with any shader code

[misty swift]

this should be on the easier side, and you could probably even write the extra pass in Shadergraph if you wanted to avoid actual HLSL

I can see if I can find some time to write up some pseudo code/snippets for it too, if you need help

[bright grove]

Thank you so much for the information

[delicate abyss]

i know that info isnt directed at me but that is incredibly useful for me as well so thank you too

[misty swift]

Honestly I think it would just be a very useful mod, to extend the shader to allow excluding specific objects.
If I had worked closer on the implementation for the main game I would have liked to add it in vanilla's version.

[delicate abyss]

I was extremely close to receiving the 1:1 result i needed but it always turned out too bright and I had given up at the time. Time for round 4 later...

[safe kite]

great mod cant wait for fog to be finished

[copper root]

i love this mod thank you

[stuck cliff]

huh for some reason I got the impression that was a feature of the new custom pass already

[vague pumice]

Good chance that this does not work on custom interiors, as when i had it sometimes i would get an infinite loading bug

at least with my pack

[wild wren]

It's definitely something weird breaking it, I found it to work on Generic's interiors (ones that were updated to v81) in a basically empty pack but the moment it was added to my 122 mod well rounded pack it didn't work at all, not even in vanilla interiors

[bright grove]

I don't see how this mod could be causing an infinite loading bug. I've used this mod on some modded interiors and it worked find. Worst case is the portals just don't spawn because the doors the inside has are not compatible. I would need to see your profile code and LogOuput.log file to know for sure though.

[vague pumice]

Ill load up and get a log file

[bright grove]

Only send your log file if you get infinite loading again

[vague pumice]

Ya thats the plan

[bright grove]

I got the CustomPass replacement working! I set the _OutlineThickness 10x to test if it's working

[potent wagon]

oh fuuuck

[bright grove]

Now I just need to work on making the custom pass and posterize shader ignore the portal screen material

[bright grove]

I got fog working! but there are some other issues I need to fix

[sonic sphinx]

Yesssss

[bright grove]

Vow with Foggy weather

First screenshot is outside
Second screenshot looking through the portal

[toxic tangle]

WHERE DID YOU HIDE MY RED TREES

[bright grove]

Vow on clear weather. The skybox in the portal camera is currently not working properly. I will fix that later

The rendering is now almost 1:1 with the player camera

[sick tartan]

we're really close!

[toxic tangle]

I wonder if zeekers has seen this yet

[vague pumice]

My current testing may have pointed out that ether this was a file issue or a mod i no longer have as i have not gotten the bug

[vague pumice]

Nope scratch that sending that now

The message is the error i got and also the log, of note i was playing for the longest time on file 2 and got no error and i went and deleted both and started fresh on file 1 and first land on EXP got me this

019e2902-d732-4a00-1a79-653fe9d044e4 thy mod pack

[vague pumice]

Also it is a interior i don't know what interior but it is one, i tested with out them and it loaded

[feral folio]

https://tenor.com/view/this-peak-is-this-peak-so-peak-peak-it's-just-so-peak-gif-1360442599844596686

[bright grove]

@misty swift Looks like I got it working! The only problem I'm facing now is the near clipping. Using an oblique projection matrix makes the fog render incorrectly. Do you think I could near clip to the portal screen plane using a fullscreen shader on the portal camera?

[misty swift]

It's looking really good so far!
So is the near clipping issue related to avoiding rendering things that are 'in front' of the door, since the portal camera is in the same relative position as the player at the connected door? Just trying to understand the method so far.

[bright grove]

Yes

[vague pumice]

Zehs i fixed the issue im pretty sure it was dawnlib i regenerated the config of dawnlib and it worked

When in doubt regenerate shit

[bright grove]

Awesome!

@uncut estuary

[uncut estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-shrug-maybe-i-dont-know-gif-14913933

dawnlib's config has basically nothing in it other than debug logging lol

the actual configs for mods are separate from dawnlib's own config

[bright grove]

Okie

[pliant mulch]

Dude this mod was peak before but holy shit dude

It’s so beautiful

[misty swift]

Ah, okay. And so the oblique projection matrix would let you angle the camera's near clip plane to match the portal angle.
Hmm. That's a tricky one. I think ideally you would find a way to make the fog work with an oblique matrix, since that's probably the best way to clip exactly what you want. Any other clipping method is probably going to be a bit off.

How does the fog render incorrectly with the oblique matrix?

I suppose another option would be an additional draw objects pass on the portal camera using a shader that can fade out/cull pixels based on a plane, but that's a bit more work.

[bright grove]

@misty swift This is how it looks when I'm using the oblique projection matrix. Fog looks wrong and the ground or sometimes walls get really dark.

I've looked around a little bit and it seems to be a Unity bug

[misty swift]

Yeah I'd love to believe that since oblique projection and volumetric fog are both base unity features that they'd work correctly together.
Unfortunately having used unity... I'm not surprised they are incompatible.

I think the best option is a cutout shader for everything being drawn with the portal camera then? Similar to the shaders used to hide walls that are between the camera and player in various third person games.

That will require another custom pass on the portal camera specifically though, I think, and I'm not sure how well it would play with mods that use non-standard materials.

[bright grove]

I've been thinking that too. Using a custom pass on the portal camera with a cutout shader. I've already started on it a bit.
https://github.com/ZehsTeam/LethalCompany-ImmersiveEntrance

[vague pumice]

Stack trace:
com.github.zehsteam.ImmersiveEntrance.MonoBehaviours.DoorPortal.ApplyScreenCrop () (at ./MonoBehaviours/DoorPortal.cs:338)
com.github.zehsteam.ImmersiveEntrance.MonoBehaviours.DoorPortal.InitializeScreen () (at ./MonoBehaviours/DoorPortal.cs:333)
com.github.zehsteam.ImmersiveEntrance.MonoBehaviours.DoorPortal.SetMainEntranceData (com.github.zehsteam.ImmersiveEntrance.Objects.MainEntranceData mainEntrance) (at ./MonoBehaviours/DoorPortal.cs:112)
com.github.zehsteam.ImmersiveEntrance.Managers.EntranceManager.SpawnDoorPortal (EntranceTeleport entranceTeleport) (at ./Managers/EntranceManager.cs:100)
com.github.zehsteam.ImmersiveEntrance.Patches.EntranceTeleport_Patches.Awake_Patch (EntranceTeleport __instance) (at ./Patches/EntranceTeleport_Patches.cs:13)
(wrapper dynamic-method) EntranceTeleport.DMD<EntranceTeleport::Awake>(EntranceTeleport)

[Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
com.github.zehsteam.ImmersiveEntrance.MonoBehaviours.DoorPortal.InitializePivot () (at ./MonoBehaviours/DoorPortal.cs:250)
com.github.zehsteam.ImmersiveEntrance.MonoBehaviours.DoorPortal.Start () (at ./MonoBehaviours/DoorPortal.cs:80)```

The old error also said hi because of course it did

[vague pumice]

It tricked me

[bright grove]

Can you send me your full LogOutput.log file and profile code?

[vague pumice]

That log is no longer there its working again now(For how long idk) but ill send the code and the log output if it happens again

019e2d30-5d7a-8819-38ed-37f5f495b547

[vague pumice]

knowing my luck its one of those errors like the gals that only i fucken get

[vague pumice]

[Error :com.github.zehsteam.ImmersiveEntrance] [EntranceManager] Failed to link main entrance portals. InsideMainEntrance is null. [Error :com.github.zehsteam.ImmersiveEntrance] [EntranceManager] Failed to spawn main entrance door portal. There are already 2 entrance portals.

[bright grove]

That is not good. Which moon and interior was that on?

The mod shows which moon and interior you are on in the logs

[vague pumice]

EXP

Facility

[bright grove]

Okie

[stuck cliff]

is the issue that the fog appears thicker than it should when you step far back into the start tile? I wonder if you could just use a fog volume to cut off the fog just inside the door?

I assume traditional rasterized stuff is working fine, but maybe I'm misunderstanding where this is going wrong precisely

[bright grove]

Issue for what?

[stuck cliff]

you were talking about problems with the fog and the oblique projection matrix

or I got the impression it was about the fog, it's not totally clear to me

[bright grove]

It looks like the posterization custom pass doesn't like the camera having a high near clip plane too. It makes some floors and walls dark when the object is far from the camera @misty swift

[bright grove]

Yeah, I'm having issues with that

[bright grove]

I should add a volume to remove fog behind the portal screen

[stuck cliff]

yeah, that's what I was thinking

if the issue was that it's rendering the fog ignoring the near plane, that should help, though it's obviously not a perfect solution since the fog resolution is quite low

[misty swift]

That would make sense, as the outline part of the shader uses the depth buffer for determining where outlines should be drawn. Messing with the near/far clip plane will change those values.

And yeah, a volume to remove the fog is definitely worth a try.

[stuck cliff]

huh, it doesn't absolutize the depth values for the depth edge detection?

but then again, when I was looking at this crap I remember seeing that there was a note on one of the depth unit conversion functions saying it doesn't support oblique projection matrices, or something to that effect

or not that it's not supported, but that it isn't correct

[bright grove]

Just a guess, but I think everything should work fine if a fullscreen shader on the portal camera could cull out all of the pixels in front of the portal screen while using default near and far clip planes

But I don't know how to do that

[stuck cliff]

I'm not sure what that does for the depth sampling

isn't it already dropping pixels that are nearer the camera than the near plane in rasterization? that doesn't affect the depth buffer's units

the depth is in a 0-1 range from far to near (or the other way around, I forget), and that is supposed to be converted to absolute units based on the projection matrix when running shaders against it

so I would assume that if it's behaving strangely, it's the conversion on the posterization fullscreen pass that's screwing it up

I think the reason it doesn't work well with the default algorithm is because that one is optimized for the usual projections with parallel near/far planes

assuming that simplifies the math a good bit

[bright grove]

Holy scrap spawn

[stuck cliff]

lol it's even aligned to the door pretty well

[bright grove]

Mhm

All of this rendering stuff is still really new to me >.<

[stuck cliff]

it's honestly a bit of a pain in HDRP I think, unfortunately

I haven't seen the new posterization shader code though, so not sure if it's a tricky fix or not

[bright grove]

You can see it on my project's GitHub page

[stuck cliff]

if my memory serves me, I think there was a sampler function that converts to absolute units, maybe that's what it uses? if so, digging into that function to find how it actually samples the texture and then using a different unit conversion might work

ah okok

[bright grove]

I'm replacing the posterize shader to allow it to exclude the portal screen material

[stuck cliff]

yee I should have a look at it

[bright grove]

Posterize.shader
PosterizationCustomPass.cs

[stuck cliff]

did you commit the original and then apply your patch on top in a separate commit? I'd be curious to see the changes that were necessary

if they're minimal, might be nice to get that into base game

[bright grove]

I hope I did it in an optimal way. I'll admit that I used the help of AI since I can't write shader code >.<

[bright grove]

I don't remember

I think you'll just have to download the original and mine and compare with a tool

I have watched a few videos on shaders though so I can understand some basic stuff

[stuck cliff]

that's fair, I only know so much too

[bright grove]

Having a fog exclusion zone behind the portal screen causes some weird visual artifacts and flickering

[stuck cliff]

I forget if the voxels of the fog follow the camera, but that doesn't seem all that unexpected given its low resolution

[bright grove]

With fog exclusion enabled

With fog exclusion disabled

I think I'll just leave the fog exclusion zone out

Or I could make it a config setting

[stuck cliff]

hmm, wouldn't it look strange in motion though? the fog getting thicker as you step backwards?

[bright grove]

let

Let's just call it "light adaptation"

[stuck cliff]

I wonder if there's a way to align the voxels of the fog that's something I hadn't considered, but it's a bit like a technique I used for a cloud renderer replacement in minecraft

lol fair enough

I'm happy if it's a config option

[stuck cliff]

do you have an example screenshot for this? it seems like the artifacts should be minimal when viewing the portal straight on (though it would push the thicker lines further out in line with the distance to the oblique near plane), but at off angles, you might potentially see edges appearing parallel to the near plane

I thiiiink maybe the solution is to create a function to convert from device depth to linear depth and then back to a hyperbolic scale so that far depths still appear flattened like in vanilla

[bright grove]

I also have additional settings and debug settings

[bright grove]

I can send you the latest dll and asset bundle file so you can see for yourself using the debug settings

[stuck cliff]

I dunno if I can directly take a look rn, but lemme try and come up with a quick and dirty function that may convert from device depth to a similar hyperbolic depth that is consistent across the frame

[bright grove]

I can send some screenshots then

[bright grove]

Okie

[stuck cliff]

float SimulatedDeviceDepth(uint2 pixelCoords, float4 zBufferParam, float near, float far)
{
    float deviceDepth = LoadCameraDepth(pixelCoords);
    float eyeDepth = LinearEyeDepth(deviceDepth, zBufferParam);
    float num = near * (far - eyeDepth);
    float den = eyeDepth * (far - near);
    return num / den;
}

mayhaps this works

might work to replace the zBufferParam parameter with _ZBufferParams, hopefully that's declared in the helper includes

float SimulatedDeviceDepth(uint2 pixelCoords, float near, float far)
{
    float deviceDepth = LoadCameraDepth(pixelCoords);
    float eyeDepth = LinearEyeDepth(deviceDepth, _ZBufferParams);
    float num = near * (far - eyeDepth);
    float den = eyeDepth * (far - near);
    return num / den;
}

where near and far are just the MainCamera near/far plane distances

[bright grove]

I'll have to try this a bit later

[bright grove]

@stuck cliff This is what happens with the posterization on and using oblique projection

[stuck cliff]

ah, the just that the lines appear a lot more pronounced at farther distances?

that does seem like what I'm hoping this function would improve

it should be a drop in for the LoadCameraDepth calls, except for the near/far that can be hardcoded wherever you like

I think the dark splotch on the cliff outside also fits that, the near plane at that angle is skewed so that the depth to the left is farther than the depth to the right, making it a more extreme angle

[stuck cliff]

ah, wait, that function needs to use a different LinearEyeDepth overload for the oblique projection matrix, hmm

[stuck cliff]

I theeeeeeeenk this works

float SimulatedDeviceDepth(uint2 pixelCoords, float near, float far)
{
    float deviceDepth = LoadCameraDepth(pixelCoords);

    float2 positionNDC = (float2(pixelCoords) + 0.5) * _ScreenSize.zw;
    float eyeDepth = LinearEyeDepth(positionNDC, deviceDepth, UNITY_MATRIX_I_P._m30_m31_m32_m33);

    float num = near * (far - eyeDepth);
    float den = eyeDepth * (far - near);
    return num / den;
}

[jade ocean]

Any insight into what causes the render to just be solid gold light?

[bright grove]

What you are seeing is just the vanilla LightBehindDoor object. That means the portal is not rendering. The portal only renders when you can within a certain distance to it and looking at it to save on performance.

If you are seeing this while really close to the door and playing on a modded interior, it means the interior is not fully compatible with this mod

[jade ocean]

Gotcha, I've all the view distances + activation range maxed, so was definitely the interior then.

Was either sub sys or storage complex, don't recall now.

[misty swift]

Oh yeah, one thing I had forgotten
Since you're replacing the custom pass shader, if you want it to work with the VR mod you can change
float exposureValue = LOAD_TEXTURE2D_X(_ExposureTexture, uint2(0,0)).r;
to
float exposureValue = LOAD_TEXTURE2D(_ExposureTexture, uint2(0,0)).r;
on line 53
That's not in the base game version sadly.

[stuck cliff]

I feel like it might be worth making a custom pass replacement mod separately honestly, since I think Pool Rooms' reflection probes might benefit from the better oblique projection handling as well

more work though 😅

and that way anyone that needs a new feature can PR it into that mod so that we don't end up with multiple mods fighting over changes to the pass

I'm not sure if LCVR does anything to the custom pass atm but I recall there was some bug with it initially at least

[delicate abyss]

Let Us Pray

[bright grove]

What should the mod be called? BetterPosterization?

[bright grove]

What about the other LOAD_TEXTURE2D_X? And what about LOAD_TEXTURE2D_X_LOD?

Posterize.shader
PosterizationCustomPass.cs

[bright grove]

I'm not sure how to exactly use this

[stuck cliff]

you would just call it in place of LoadCameraDepth and pass the desired near and far plane distances as the second and third parameter respectively

or like I said, hardcode those near/far values in the function so it's a drop-in replacement

[stuck cliff]

That's a good question 😅 I think that seems reasonable enough though

[stuck cliff]

(only replace the calls within SobelOperator_Depth actually, I don't think any others need it)

[misty swift]

The rest of them are fine, the issue for VR was that specifically the _ExposureTexture in HDRP is set up in a way so if you try to access it for the second eye then it returns nothing. So the fix is to simply ignore the XR setup for exposure.

And yeah, a general community overhaul of the shader would be great. There are so many features that would be useful to have added to it (and the VR fix).

Wish I had gotten the chance to add features to the shader before it went into vanilla

[bright grove]

Did you take a look at my implementation for excluding the posterize shader from specific shaders?

[bright grove]

Okie

[bright grove]

Okay, thanks

[misty swift]

Your exclusion method looks pretty good. Haven't worked in HDRP in a moment, my only concern (not a huge one) is if the exclusionmask draw is drawing everything again using their materials. I can't remember if PerObjectData.None covers that.

[bright grove]

That fixed it!

[stuck cliff]

:0

yay!!

[bright grove]

Well maybe

[stuck cliff]

[bright grove]

It seems to work better with oblique projection

But having a regular high near clip plane still makes it dark

[stuck cliff]

in the portal camera you mean?

[bright grove]

Yes

[bright grove]

I don't know

[misty swift]

If I have time I can check in renderdoc, that should show if it's using the materials or not

[stuck cliff]

hmm, could you show what exactly that looks like? I'm curious when it starts falling apart

one thing you could do though is to output the simulated depth directly in FullScreenReadPosterize to see if it gives any clues where it's breaking down

[bright grove]

Did I do this right?

[sick tartan]

I love sneak peeks!

https://c.tenor.com/owC1TD5AP04AAAAC/tenor.gif

[bright grove]

Do you mean just returning the simulated depth value instead of the final color in FullScreenReadPosterize?

[stuck cliff]

ohh no the near and far clip should be hardcoded to whatever the vanilla camera uses

[bright grove]

Ohh okay

[stuck cliff]

that way it will remap the depth from any camera to the vanilla range

that makes sense why it's breaking down, i assume you don't set the near clip plane in the oblique mode

this custom pass also replaces the one that runs on MainCamera as well right? I'm curious if my formula changes things visually at all

with the config option I assume it would be pretty easy to get perfect side by side comparison screenshots

hopefully it's a no-op for a normal camera

[bright grove]

I was a bit confused

[stuck cliff]

yee no worries

[bright grove]

Yeah it does run on every camera

I have the config setting to toggle it on and off to see if there is a visual difference

[bright grove]

That seems to have fixed it for oblique projection and normal near/far clip planes!

Now I just need to adjust my calculations for the normal near clip plane. It should not be doing this

It's almost working as good as oblique projection when you are within a reasonable distance, and it makes fog look normal!

[bright grove]

Should I just leave it hard coded or pass in near/far values from the player camera in the CustomPass execute?

[stuck cliff]

I'd say hardcoded is fine, but if you want to be fully sure that future updates don't require changes that would be fine too

[stuck cliff]

does setting the near clip plane before assigning the oblique projection matrix help with the fog in that mode?

sounds like a combination could be helpful maybe

[bright grove]

No it doesn't. I'm either setting the near clip plane or using oblique projection in the NearClipPlaneMode setting

[stuck cliff]

huh, does that mean that setting it to an oblique projection matrix is replacing the value of the near plane distance that was assigned previously?

seems strange for it not to affect it

[bright grove]

I think setting the projection matrix just ignores near/far clip plane values. I'm calculating the oblique projection matrix off of the portal camera and I think it's just using the clipPlane paramater as the nearClipPlane instead of the value on the camera

[stuck cliff]

yeah it's very possible it just derives the near plane from a very naive formula based on the projection matrix

that's disappointing

[bright grove]

The player camera looks the same to me with this new simulated depth

I compared some screenshots

[stuck cliff]

amazing

thank you wolfram alpha

[bright grove]

[hybrid path]

FOG?

[bright grove]

Yers :3

[feral folio]

https://tenor.com/view/super-bomb-survival-the-fog-is-coming-event-fog-gif-3743702820267701948

[toxic tangle]

is that the irl GTA5 place

[bright grove]

@stuck cliff Do you know which moons use this? I remember you mentioning something about it before

[potent wagon]

Experimentation does

just not right at the entrance area

I know some of @pliant mulch use it too I just don't know which still do

[main fjord]

super bomb survival in 2026

the world is healing ❤️‍🩹

[pliant mulch]

not as the weather but as the "effect enabled" in an audio reverb trigger

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HIXPslkWwAA2qvr.webp

[potent wagon]

Oh whoops, missed that it says "Weather"

I suppose for the visual it's still important?

Which ones still use it, do you remember?

[pliant mulch]

no fuckin clue

[potent wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/oggy-oggy-and-the-cockroaches-oggy-et-les-cafards-drinking-water-fridge-gif-369741255913252368

[stuck cliff]

experimentation does

oop

messages didn't load for like 10 seconds, I see someone answered already lol

good ol discord

[potent wagon]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HIXPslkWwAA2qvr.webp

[bright grove]

Okie, thanks

[bright grove]

@stuck cliff How do I use your ILMatcher to match these instructions?

I saw you had something named that in OpenBodyCams and LethalSponge

I want to replace these instructions with my own

[stuck cliff]

oh that's funny, I didn't know Scoops brought over those classes

[bright grove]

[stuck cliff]

or maybe I forgor lol wouldn't put it past me

guess I forgor

the match for the first screenshot would look like

matcher
  .Find([
    ILMatcher.Call(typeof(StartOfRound).GetProperty(nameof(StartOfRound.Instance)).GetMethod),
    ILMatcher.Ldfld(typeof(StartOfRound).GetField(nameof(StartOfRound.spectateCamera))),
    ILMatcher.Callvirt(typeof(Component).GetProperty(nameof(Component.transform))),
    ILMatcher.Callvirt(typeof(Transform).GetProperty(nameof(Transform.position))),
    ILMatcher.Stloc().CaptureAs(out var storeSpectatorCameraPosition),
  ]);

and then when you replace the match, you can instantiate the instructions you want and then follow them up with the captured stloc instruction to store it to the variable

also if you're importing the classes, I'd recommend doing it from the LC_OpenBodyCams repo, since that's where I make all my granular commits for it to keep a central source up to date

(that's where it originated)

it's had a lot of bug fixes since the version that Scoop grabbed, though probably not relevant to your patch I'd guess thankfully

ah actually, it is important to get the up-to-date version, captures aren't implemented in that earlier version

[bright grove]

Okie, thank you

[bright grove]

Is this how you do it?

[stuck cliff]

I'd prefer to print an error if !injector.IsValid and then return the original instructions, that way you know if the vanilla code changes later

[bright grove]

Would it be okay to print that in an else block and just continue the transpiler code?

Or I guess I could just return too

[bright grove]

I GOT WEATHERS WORKING!

Not sure if it'll work with modded weathers

[stuck cliff]

yeah that probably would be fine too

[stuck cliff]

I wouldn't recommend even trying unless you come up with a really creative solution

I attempted to make a solution for OpenBodyCams that would work if weathers were set up like vanilla

spoiler alert: they were not

and I couldn't convince people to change them

my recommendation would be to do something that only affects vanilla weathers and then let custom ones deal with it themselves if they won't conform to the vanilla setup, it's really not worth the effort

[bright grove]

[stuck cliff]

sorry lol my experience with that just got me pretty cynical about it, essentially to support custom weathers you have to patch them yourself or let them make compat for you

[delicate abyss]

I am in the midst of doing a custom weather and i set the far clip range of the camera to 2000 when outside, i cache the far clip range at the start and set it back to the cached value when entering the facility or when the day ends, to compensate for any mod that permanently increases the far clip, i do not mind making compat

[uncut estuary]

2000!?

[stuck cliff]

that sounds like it woudl conflict with cullfactory's setting

unfortunate thing is that we have no standard for this type of thing, so you would be hardcoding support for one such mod instead of all mods like it

really really really not a fan of the status quo

I guess I should talk to xu about how it should work sometime, if my memory would be good enough for that

[delicate abyss]

It is necessary...

[uncut estuary]

Are u making a moon or a weather

[delicate abyss]

Weather

[bright grove]

Yeah, I'll probably just have support for vanilla weathers. I'm curious to how modded weathers works, so I might take a look still

[stuck cliff]

the registering is pretty standard, the tricky part is how they toggle visibility/track players or cameras

the vanilla setup has one object that is fixed and stays on (iirc), and one that follows the player and gets disabled when inside

if every mod used that model then OpenBodyCams could just mimick the vanilla logic with a cloned version of each weather and it would Just Work

otherwise, WeatherRegistry needs to provide API to toggle weather in a way that is safe to do per camera callback

[bright grove]

I see

Have you checked out my current weather implementation? The GitHub is up to date

[stuck cliff]

oh, is it forcing the player-following weather object to stay by the outer door when inside? seems reasonable enough

I could imagine there's a possibility of something (like for example rain particles) making it down to the interior, but it seems unlikely at least in vanilla

[bright grove]

Mhm

How were you doing it for OpenBodyCams when you tried?

Or I guess it wouldn't matter since you are only ever viewing the camera output from the ship

Don't the particles have collision? They shouldn't ever make it down to the interior

They would hit the terrain mesh at worst I feel like

[uncut estuary]

interior ceiling should be a one sided plane no?

[stuck cliff]

the origin of particles could clip into the wall that the doorway is on, but it's not really likely to be an issue (and tbf usually terrain extends through the wall)

it'll probably be fine

the solution for OpenBodyCams was just to duplicate the weathers for each bodycam and run the same logic against them that runs against the weathers following the player, then set the visibility based on the camera being rendered

[bright grove]

Ohh because weather is only rendered in a small area around the player?

[stuck cliff]

yee

[bright grove]

I didn't really check how big the particles extended

[stuck cliff]

so if I just moved the weather to the body cam target, then a player looking out of the ship could see the rain stop

the rain area isn't very big, something like 20 meter radius

[bright grove]

Mhm

[boreal shadow]

OMG this is so awesome

[crimson steeple]

[bright grove]

Do you have any recommendations to make this mod compatible with CullFactory? I saw you've been pushing some updates @stuck cliff

[stuck cliff]

that's a real good question tbh

I'll see if I can look into a way that doesn't involve soft compat

[stuck cliff]

@bright grove are you using Camera.Render() instead of just enabling your camera? I don't see it in Camera.allCameras

[bright grove]

Yes, because I couldn't figure out how to make the portal camera render before the player camera and spectate camera

[stuck cliff]

right, I'll see if I can look into that too

I wanna say I vaguely remember discussing something for that before

at worst, though, you could transpile HDRP to sort the camera order

it might not even require a transpiler actually, not sure

depends if they make a defensive copy of the list in beginContextRendering

the downside of doing it with Camera.Render() is that it introduces a bunch of setup and teardown overhead, and with CullFactory it also forces switching visibility twice every frame rather than potentially zero times

anyway, trying not to get sidetracked from that 😅 lemme look at what CullFactory is doing with your cameras

[bright grove]

I didn't even think about that. Thank you

[stuck cliff]

Ahhhh, it looks like there's actually not really an issue with CullFactory exactly, except for the fact that it cares about the near plane, I think

for factory, there's a first tile with no renderers that has a door into the actual start tile, and the near plane of your portal is probably a little too far forward to intersect with my portal for that doorway

(the latter portal as in the context of portal occlusion culling 😅)

if I just remove the near plane, I think it'll work, lemme check

it's not really important to include the near plane anyway

[bright grove]

Okie :3

[stuck cliff]

pushed an update to make CullFactory work better with ImmersiveEntrance

no guarantee that it'll work with all interiors though, unfortunately, since the camera may end up originating in another tile if you stand far enough back

might be good to look into whether you can set the camera position independently of the projection matrix

@bright grove for the render order, did you try setting Camera.depth lower than MainCamera's value? Looks like that is -1, so you would need a value less than that like -2.

[bright grove]

I'll try that

[bright grove]

Okie

[stuck cliff]

It sounds like you may be able to leave your camera position slightly inside the start tile from the portal plane and then create a custom worldToCameraMatrix for the real viewing angle of the portal, that should allow CullFactory to find it properly. That said, I did just make CullFactory rely on the camera position to calculate a near plane with distance 0 😅 I'll probably need to revert that once you have it set up so CullFactory can find the starting room

You would be able to test that fix against the prior version, though

[jade ocean]

@bright grove I'm seeing it sometimes not working even on vanilla interiors and moons, any idea what would be the culprit in this case? This is just facility on March.

[bright grove]

I'm not sure. Do you still have your log file from this run?

[sick tartan]

I guess this has been alr fixed but.

Most prob a bug (or mod incompat) with CullFactory

• Items in your hands doesn't get rendered when looking at the window
  img 1: looking somewhere else inside the facility, axe in hand
  img 2: looking the window, axe in hand

Tested with vanilla items too (a flashlight) and it doesn't get rendered neither

[jade ocean]

Damn it, slipped my mind. Easily reproducible though, I'll fetch you one today.

[stuck cliff]

pretty easy to confirm if this is CullFactory doing it, you can toggle culling in-game with LethalConfig

probably is CullFactory tbh, but not sure why it would be doing that

[sick tartan]

I Remember Cull factory doing the same thing on some unoptimized interiors like School, so that's why it was my guess

[sick tartan]

Can 100% confirm it's CullFactory

[stuck cliff]

tyty

any idea if this is a regression in the latest version?

I hadn't heard about anything like this until today

[sick tartan]

sorry, I don't understand

[stuck cliff]

did this happen with the previous version of CullFactory?

[sick tartan]

I'm using the latest version

[sick tartan]

no, current version

[sick tartan]

Will test on previous version

[feral folio]

This happened to me with toilet paper while I was testing my mods on public lobbies

[sick tartan]

No, this is the previous version.
It seems that the current version is the one with the bug

[jade ocean]

Got you a log @bright grove. Facility on Exp this time. Same phenom as previous pics from facility March.

[wet saddle]

hi how to make work immersiveentrance to custom moon / custom interior because always blank like this is.

[safe kite]

would it be possible to add audio through the door so you can hear on both sides?

but it would be slightly muffled

[bright grove]

I don't think there is an easy way to do that

[safe kite]

fair

[hearty shoal]

that would be nightmareish to figure out

lol

[safe kite]

unfortunate

[hybrid path]

invisible walkie on both sides /j

[bright grove]

[hearty shoal]

sadly, with the way walkies work, it wouldn't really be that easy

[hybrid path]

hence the /j

[golden scarab]

two cans and a string through the door

[main fjord]

an iq too high?

[feral folio]

https://tenor.com/view/sorry-gif-26021390

waiting for peak (next update)

[bright grove]

I was actually thinking about adding some sort of audio feature

But that would have to be later

[bright grove]

@stuck cliff What if I just temporarily disable CullFactory when you are looking at the outside portal?

[stuck cliff]

versus what? did you have trouble with what I suggested?

[bright grove]

I didn't have time to look into that yet. I want to push this update out before tomorrow. This can just be a temporary fix for now. I have a config setting to disable it if anything goes wrong

[stuck cliff]

hmm, gotcha

is this to work around the issue of items becoming invisible? that's probably a bug on my side, I just haven't gotten to look at it yet

[bright grove]

It won't fix items in your hand going invisible when you are looking into the outside

But it'll fix the interior rendering as nothing randomly

[stuck cliff]

is that happening a lot?

[bright grove]

When moving around

[stuck cliff]

I was hoping the last update would help significantly with that

[bright grove]

It happens pretty consistently. Especially on Mineshaft interior

You have to be right up against the door to see inside

[jade ocean]

I've seen that one too, yeah

[bright grove]

It seems like disabling/enabling the CullMethod game object is enough to stop CullFactory temporarily

[jade ocean]

Did you get the chance to look at my log Crit, or not yet. I can't figure out why it's doing that on vanilla things, but the logs invariably tell me the mod is failing to connect the entrances.

[bright grove]

I checked your log a little earlier and it looks like the main entrance doors are trying to spawn twice for some reason. EntranceTeleport.Awake() is being called twice or there are 4 main entrance doors for you for some reason. Might be a mod conflict

I have it in the code to still work if there are more than 2 main entrances. It should just connect the first inside and outside entrances that tried

[jade ocean]

Entrance tp optimizations? Can't think of what else would do that.

[bright grove]

Is that a mod?

[jade ocean]

Yeah

[bright grove]

That's seems likley

Can you test without that mod on your pack?

[jade ocean]

Matty's thingy. I'll test.

[bright grove]

ImmersiveEntrance - Update v1.1.0

• Improved portal view visuals to be almost 1:1 with the player camera.
• The sky now renders properly and with correct lighting.
• You can now see fog and vanilla weather effects through the portal view.
• Added CullFactory compatibility.
• Updated and added more config settings.
• Replaced vanilla's posterize shader and custom pass to exclude the portal screen from getting rendered with the shader.
• Improvements to how main entrance door objects are found.
• Other stuff I probably forgot.

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Zehs/ImmersiveEntrance/

[jade ocean]

Yay. Doing a bit more testing Crit, but from what I've seen so far, fairly certain Matty's mod is the problem

[lament wasp]

which matty mod

matty mod 1 or matty mod 2

[jade ocean]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/mattymatty/EntranceTeleportOptimizations/

[lament wasp]

matty mod 4

[stuck cliff]

there's an API for disabling culling for a particular camera

so if that camera renders, everything is visible

that also works, but it's not really a tested approach

[bright grove]

Oh I didn't know

I'll update it tomorrow

[stuck cliff]

yeah no worries tho

I don't really expect disabling the CullingMethod to cause serious issues, it's just not something I've really tried

toggling in the config destroys it instead

[safe kite]

would you possibly make a window for the fire exits? something like this maybe?

[safe kite]

or like these

[jade ocean]

This'd be very cool if doable—I like the first and third variations, not smol window

[safe kite]

just not sure what to do with the text on the actual door unless it gets moves lower down

[jade ocean]

I mean does it need text? I'd be fine without it.

[safe kite]

fair

wish they gave the fire exit an open animation like the others

[jade ocean]

Yeah samezies

@bright grove "There are already two entrance portals" Modded moon but vanilla facility, not using entrance tp opt this time around nouuu

[vivid quest]

how are you supposed to know its a fire exit then smh

[jade ocean]

hurdy dur, it could def be a problem. We're gonna need an even brighter shade of red so people don't confuses its withs other red doorsies thats does differents things