hot cave Apr 10, 2026, 5:06 AM

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Besides, that mod is pretty sloppily made and I figure it's prone to being incompatible with a bunch of stuff.

prisma birch Apr 10, 2026, 5:15 AM

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Ahh

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That's unfortunate

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The nutcracker rework was very well done and added much more challenge to taking him on

hot cave Apr 10, 2026, 5:17 AM

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I don't know, I mean with how Nutcracker takedowns usually go now I usually don't even get to see it in it's mid phases.

turbid citrus Apr 10, 2026, 5:42 AM

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Gave Modder to @hot cave, please use #role-picker to select the modding disciplines you are interested in!

digital kite Apr 10, 2026, 6:08 AM

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return of peak scrap

pine perch Apr 10, 2026, 7:28 AM

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hot cave I don't know, I mean with how Nutcracker takedowns usually go now I usually don'...

Your nutcracker buff + Stan's nutcracker buff really makes out for the best iteration of nutcrackers Imo

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It makes fighting them more engaging and fun

hot cave Apr 10, 2026, 1:26 PM

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pine perch Your nutcracker buff + Stan's nutcracker buff really makes out for the best iter...

Oh god I don't know.

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With how fast paced I usually play, I like knowing one shell will take down one nut.

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Especially when Bracken is involved and you might wanna save a shell for Bracken.

pulsar wraith Apr 10, 2026, 7:11 PM

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I initially liked Last Stand, but now I have it turned off. It just does not feel satisfying

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Nutcrackers are not too OP (Shotgun has limited ammo and is heavier than Shovel), so making the game less fun (imo) is not warranted

hot cave Apr 10, 2026, 7:22 PM

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That's more so why I don't like it either, it's not really a fun mechanic and it feels like a punish for trying to use a shotgun against a nutcracker.

rain harness Apr 10, 2026, 10:41 PM

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tuba..

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i love it

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i've played tuba for 7 years, so i am very happy

gaunt rose Apr 10, 2026, 10:50 PM

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guba

pine perch Apr 11, 2026, 1:39 AM

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guba

warm haven Apr 11, 2026, 2:29 AM

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pulsar wraith I initially liked Last Stand, but now I have it turned off. It just does not fee...

for what it's worth i think it's good for gameplay but i dont use it either 🤷‍♀️

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i think it's too satisfying to just instakill with meatshots

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there's a lot of stuff in that mod that exists more for conceptual reasons and not because they are actually what i consider the "ideal way to play" and that's one of the reasons im having so much trouble working on the v81 update

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i think the next version of the mod is going to remove like half or more of the settings

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though i'll keep the specific AI tweaks since you can't really do that with lunarconfig or similar mods

hot cave Apr 11, 2026, 2:43 AM

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One scrap I'm not sure of is the ||coffee pot||

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Like it is Zeekerss styled imo but something about it seems really off.

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In fact there's a few scraps I'm considering updating the visual looks up next time I get around to the next batch of scraps.

prisma birch Apr 11, 2026, 5:46 AM

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warm haven though i'll keep the specific AI tweaks since you can't really do that with luna...

This is a bit of a weird question, but would it be possible to add in a feature to buttery rebalances (or even melee fixes) for shovel input buffering?

warm haven Apr 11, 2026, 5:48 AM

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this is a butterybalance thing

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and also yeah i guess it's pretty possible

pulsar wraith Apr 11, 2026, 8:19 AM

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warm haven for what it's worth i think it's good for gameplay but i dont use it either 🤷‍♀...

I think the way I would do it right now is make Nutcrackers be like Butlers, having 7 health but instantly dying to gun blasts. Knife would not instant kill them unlike Butler. Makes relative logical sense since the eyeball is protected from melee weapons by its shell, but guns can just shoot it. Now Butlers and Nutcrackers represent similar threat levels but Butlers are 2 power and make Mask Hornets

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Lunar Config lets me do 7 health but not the shotgun weakness

hot cave Apr 11, 2026, 1:20 PM

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Alright it's getting a bit off-topic here.

pulsar wraith Apr 11, 2026, 4:26 PM

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My bad

warm haven Apr 11, 2026, 5:12 PM

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hot cave One scrap I'm not sure of is the ||coffee pot||

i think it's fine

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personally

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the only thing i was a bit iffy on is the ||frying pan|| equip sound

hot cave Apr 11, 2026, 6:30 PM

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Oh I just realized I had it on the wrong "shovel pick up" sound

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||I mean I did wanna make it so you could attack with frying pan originally but that involves adding custom animations and stuff||

fervent oak Apr 11, 2026, 8:18 PM

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should add a box collider to the pan to complete the collision on it

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on the handle i mean

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i did this with a bunch of items and it makes it infinitly more immersive in order to grab items with handles

hot cave Apr 11, 2026, 8:55 PM

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Hmm, I could

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doesn't Lethal use the colliders for collision checks though or are they purely for interacting

warm haven Apr 11, 2026, 8:57 PM

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they are used for collision checks too but enemies and players dont have collision with the item layer

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so it shouldnt really matter that much

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you can also have more than one collider per gameobject

fervent oak Apr 11, 2026, 9:02 PM

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hot cave doesn't Lethal use the colliders for collision checks though or are they purely ...

i have items with multiple collisions

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it's just better for immersion

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is it optimized? idk

warm haven Apr 11, 2026, 9:02 PM

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if you want to match the shape of the pan using only box colliders you dont need new gameobjects for that 🙂

fervent oak Apr 11, 2026, 9:02 PM

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but 2 colliders instead of 1 wont change much

hot cave Apr 11, 2026, 9:03 PM

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I mean I could just extend the collider to include the handle.

fervent oak Apr 11, 2026, 9:03 PM

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yeah just put multiple colliders on the root, not on another gameobject

fervent oak Apr 11, 2026, 9:03 PM

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hot cave I mean I could just extend the collider to include the handle.

don't do a zeekerss

hot cave Apr 11, 2026, 9:03 PM

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Yeah I know

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I mean... idk

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The point of this mod is to emulate Zeekerss's style of scrap

fervent oak Apr 11, 2026, 9:04 PM

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there are some items that have colliders that make no sense

fervent oak Apr 11, 2026, 9:04 PM

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hot cave The point of this mod is to emulate Zeekerss's style of scrap

yeah but i think visually is enough

hot cave Apr 11, 2026, 9:11 PM

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I'm split because while I do see where you're coming from, I feel like for gameplay purposes extending the collider to the handle rather than creating a new one in the root would be better

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Lethal already has a massive issue of not giving the player a crosshair.

pine perch Apr 11, 2026, 10:21 PM

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Encountered the coffee pot for the first time

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It was jarring and I got taken aback, like "What the fuck is this?"

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and then i realized, lol

warm haven Apr 11, 2026, 10:27 PM

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the only thing i'd maybe change about the coffee pot is using a different material for the "cap" or "lid" or whatever

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like what the perfume bottle does

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because otherwise the post processing doesn't work on it

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transparent materials don't reflect the shaders correctly

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in terms of shape and texture i think it looks just fine with all of vanilla's existing scrap, and all of the previous terra scraps 🙂

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the odd-one-out is actually the diamond, for me

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even still i like how it looks

gaunt rose Apr 11, 2026, 10:28 PM

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warm haven the only thing i'd maybe change about the coffee pot is using a different materi...

yeah that's the only bit that bothers me

hot cave Apr 11, 2026, 10:28 PM

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Oh yeah I've already changed the lid

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I'm updating the visuals of some of the scrap

hot cave Apr 11, 2026, 10:29 PM

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warm haven the odd-one-out is actually the diamond, for me

The thing is, I wanted it to look really attractive, so much so I looked up how to make a shader graph for it.

warm haven Apr 11, 2026, 10:30 PM

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yeah don't get me wrong it looks super cool and i think sacrificing some "vanillaness" for a unique effect like that is totally worth it

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like, zeekerss sacrificed fog looking correctly on the kidnapper fox to give it fluffy neck fur and i think that's a good trade

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i think it works really well for the diamond, so it's uniquely dazzling and unlike other items

hot cave Apr 11, 2026, 10:31 PM

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The issue is the tutorials that were out there used emission for the effect rather than color so I spend like a day tinkering with the effect. I had to end up using another mesh object to get it to look right.

pine perch Apr 11, 2026, 10:31 PM

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warm haven yeah don't get me wrong it looks super cool and i think sacrificing some "vanill...

im ngl, i wouldnt go as far as to say it's out of realm of zeekerss' artstyle

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zeekerss has consistently over the past major updates "gone against" what people have considered vanilla in terms of aesthetic

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like gunkfish having dang near the same quality as peepers/mimics

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i think as long as like it just fits into the game's world, it's fine

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but thats just my opinion

pine perch Apr 11, 2026, 10:34 PM

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pine perch i think as long as like it just fits into the game's world, it's fine

23-Symbiosis by Beaniebe is a good example of this

gaunt rose Apr 11, 2026, 10:38 PM

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pine perch zeekerss has consistently over the past major updates "gone against" what people...

he has been, to be entirely honest, doing this since v50

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you put the Butler next to the eyeless dog and the difference is crazy

pine perch Apr 11, 2026, 10:43 PM

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yeah lol

hot cave Apr 11, 2026, 10:56 PM

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Wait

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Will the player prefab play any animation so long as a custom clip exists and is called to play it?

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If that is the case then I will absolutely do something with that knowledge

pine perch Apr 11, 2026, 11:23 PM

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gaunt rose he has been, to be entirely honest, doing this since v50

it just needs to look like it could exist in LC's universe really

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be low poly, maybe have some decent detail, use the game's posterization, and boom

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straight bullshit /pos

warm haven Apr 12, 2026, 12:04 AM

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hot cave Will the player prefab play any animation so long as a custom clip exists and is...

the player uses the animator component which cares more about states than clips

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you have to replace it with an animator override controller with states for the clips you want to add and then transition into those states

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which gets really dicey when more than one mod wants to override the player animator

hot cave Apr 12, 2026, 12:13 AM

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Can more than one animator override affect animator without issue?

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I assume it can be made to work but under specific circumstances.

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If it's easy enough, I can make the frying pan into a melee

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Immersive scraps tried to do something like this with the wrench but that had apparently ran into issues with animations too.

hot cave Apr 12, 2026, 6:11 AM

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I assume that if I want to add a custom item script, I'd need to compile a dll for it?

warm haven Apr 12, 2026, 6:18 AM

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ya

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im not aware of the entire pipeline because i usually try to do everything i can with code - i just pack assets (like textures/meshes, sometimes materials) into asset bundles

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i've never tried packing a prefab with a custom script in it and then tried loading that directly

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but i assume as long as you include the same DLL with the same namespaces and scripts as a plugin in your unity project (or as a script directly)

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you can just add the scripts to your prefab and then when you import the prefab it'll automatically resolve the reference

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might want to double check that with xu though, since she is definitely aware of how to do that sort of thing with dawnlib

hot cave Apr 12, 2026, 9:15 PM

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wip

pine perch Apr 12, 2026, 9:22 PM

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||toy firetruck?||

hot cave Apr 12, 2026, 9:22 PM

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||ye||

pine perch Apr 12, 2026, 9:23 PM

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swag

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||nice to see more manor items||

hot cave Apr 12, 2026, 9:23 PM

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||There's a few I'm planning for next batch but I wanted to show this model atleast because it's definitely gonna be the most troublesome of the bunch to model||

pine perch Apr 12, 2026, 9:29 PM

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||any plans for mineshaft scrap?||

hot cave Apr 12, 2026, 9:30 PM

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||Maybe? It depends, at most I could add a lantern.||

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||The thing is I don't wanna add extremely generic things like minerals and what not, the diamond was only an exception because of it being very valuable just in general and the fact that Zeekerss did mention of adding one before, although he never ended up doing it||

digital kite Apr 12, 2026, 9:44 PM

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hot cave ||Maybe? It depends, at most I could add a lantern.||

||I've yet to see anyone do a decent looking pickaxe. Lil' stick of dynamite could be cool too, balancing it would be difficult though.||

hot cave Apr 12, 2026, 9:51 PM

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digital kite ||I've yet to see anyone do a decent looking pickaxe. Lil' stick of dynamite cou...

||You see, that's kinda what I'm a lil scared of. If I add something like a pickaxe, it's gonna come with the expectation that it needs to be a weapon||

gaunt rose Apr 12, 2026, 9:51 PM

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another-scp-redacted-meme-not-aigan-v0-t8bk3lqfbp2a1.png

digital kite Apr 12, 2026, 9:52 PM

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hot cave Apr 12, 2026, 9:52 PM

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Then again I say all of this when I originally wanted to make the frying pan a melee lol.

digital kite Apr 12, 2026, 9:53 PM

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||At least in the case of a Pickaxe, you should be fine using the default 2 handed weapon animations||

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The animations needed for the pan and getting them to work in a way that plays nicely with other mods and vanilla stuff would've been quite the hassle as far as I'm aware.

hot cave Apr 12, 2026, 9:57 PM

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I could create an override and apply it if the pan gets equipped and then remove it if the pan gets deequipped.

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But that would also involve storing the original player animator

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which might present issues on some weird bleeding edge cases

hot cave Apr 13, 2026, 1:46 AM

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This feels like a war crime

pine perch Apr 13, 2026, 1:49 AM

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I love it lolll

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oh jesus christ it's a worse clock

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you masochist

gaunt rose Apr 13, 2026, 1:57 AM

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oh my god

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that's so fucked dawg

pine perch Apr 13, 2026, 1:59 AM

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WEEWOOWEEWOOWEEWOOWEEWOOWEEWOO

digital kite Apr 13, 2026, 1:59 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1467973994107113493/1492976994428911887/IMG_4813.gif

mellow fossil Apr 13, 2026, 2:55 AM

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hot cave This feels like a war crime

TOY ROBOT 3 LETS GO

warm haven Apr 13, 2026, 6:58 AM

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not sure how much more work you intend to do on this... but since it's been a while i hope you dont mind me bringing it up again

there are still several items mentioned in the sigurd logs that do not exist in-game:

"a big nail" (maybe just sigurd misidentifying big bolts?)
a pair of scissors
a box full of stamps
a bundle of cords

since you added frying pans (which used to be on this list 🙂) i was wondering if you'd still be interested in implementing the rest of these at some point?

additionally, as of v80, there's a new one ("a rusty metal grinder")

pulsar wraith Apr 13, 2026, 7:46 AM

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I remember Purple had wanted a snow globe a while back so we didn’t have to install all of CodeRebirth just to get it

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A more vanilla-like snowglobe would be fire imo

pine perch Apr 13, 2026, 1:39 PM

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warm haven not sure how much more work you intend to do on this... but since it's been a wh...

big bolts are not actually bolts but instead nails, so

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more than likely thats just what sigurd called big bolts

digital kite Apr 13, 2026, 2:08 PM

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Visually they look more like Scrws rather Nails in my opinion

hot cave Apr 13, 2026, 2:33 PM

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pulsar wraith I remember Purple had wanted a snow globe a while back so we didn’t have to inst...

I could do snow globe

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Although I'm not really sure how to do particles in Unity

fervent oak Apr 13, 2026, 2:34 PM

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i could help with that

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but particles in items are generally a bit.... fucky...

hot cave Apr 13, 2026, 2:34 PM

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How so?

fervent oak Apr 13, 2026, 2:34 PM

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you see the red overlay that shows up when you collect an item?

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if that item has a particle effect on it

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every single particle will show up as a square on that render

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equally, depending on how you set up your item and particle effect, it could cause whacky shenanigans, which is why i settled for small and easy ways to make them

hot cave Apr 13, 2026, 2:36 PM

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I could settle for little white dots as particles

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Im also at work right now, and I got other stuff on ny agenda this week.

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Wanna set aside time to do art lol

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~~This is where I shill my art thread lolol #1319597759065489428 ~~

warm haven Apr 13, 2026, 4:25 PM

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digital kite Visually they look more like Scrws rather Nails in my opinion

yes

gaunt rose Apr 13, 2026, 4:32 PM

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warm haven not sure how much more work you intend to do on this... but since it's been a wh...

I had it in my to-do list to add some of these to Biodiversity but it never came through

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so I'd love it if a mod added them

hot cave Apr 13, 2026, 5:37 PM

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warm haven not sure how much more work you intend to do on this... but since it's been a wh...

I have a todo list, that has some of those things

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Box of stamps is like really vague

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I mean it's obvious in what it is but like is it a box convered in stamps that got stamps in it?

weary niche Apr 13, 2026, 7:06 PM

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i'd say a box with stamps in it

gaunt rose Apr 13, 2026, 7:08 PM

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yeah

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like a box carrying a ton of stamps

warm haven Apr 13, 2026, 7:15 PM

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the image i've always had in my head is something like a tiny matchbox where somebody was just collecting a bunch of stamps

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the other day i was thinking it might be fun if those stamps kinda played into the aesthetic of the v80 trailer

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like a "visit scenic vow" stamp with a photo of the dam and forest

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if you're looking for inspiration i guess 😅

gaunt rose Apr 13, 2026, 7:18 PM

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warm haven like a "visit scenic vow" stamp with a photo of the dam and forest

god that would be so cool

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im a bit fan of stamp designs so some for the moons in this game would go so so so hard...

warm haven Apr 13, 2026, 7:18 PM

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while looking for "matchbox of stamps" i also found this

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rather than postage stamps this is more like ink stamps

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maybe that's what zeekerss meant

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🤷‍♀️

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all i know is it's a crazy immersion breaker that sigurd is talking about all this mundane shit he found that we can't ever see!!

gaunt rose Apr 13, 2026, 7:20 PM

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one of these but with the feiopar for vow would go crayy

gaunt rose Apr 13, 2026, 7:20 PM

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warm haven all i know is it's a crazy immersion breaker that sigurd is talking about all th...

maybe we can't see it cuz he took it already 🧐 /j

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gunfih for march (i don't actually know where it's most common)

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tulip snakes and flowers (reference to cadavers) for adamance oh baby

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sorry I just really like stamps

gaunt rose Apr 13, 2026, 7:21 PM

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warm haven while looking for "matchbox of stamps" i also found this

this would probably work well

warm haven Apr 13, 2026, 7:22 PM

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gaunt rose tulip snakes and flowers (reference to cadavers) for adamance oh baby

this with the adamance flowers and a tulip snake would be actually so good

gaunt rose Apr 13, 2026, 7:22 PM

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yeah!!!

warm haven Apr 13, 2026, 7:22 PM

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also yeah gunkfish is most common on march by a pretty wide margin

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it's like 17% on march and 9% on titan and much lower everywhere else Lol

gaunt rose Apr 13, 2026, 7:23 PM

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you don't even gotta change jack about this one, but I doubt embrion would even have stamps of their own :P

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always loved how this one looks exactly like the outside map objects mod's crystals

gaunt rose Apr 13, 2026, 7:23 PM

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warm haven it's like 17% on march and 9% on titan and much lower everywhere else Lol

TITAN?

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did not expect that tbh

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but then again I didn't really expect cadavers on dine either and I've been told they show up there aswell

warm haven Apr 13, 2026, 7:24 PM

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honestly i think that's pretty cool it probably helps you get through the massive interior a lot faster and it helps reduce how often you're running into "Really Bad Guys"

gaunt rose Apr 13, 2026, 7:25 PM

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warm haven honestly i think that's pretty cool it probably helps you get through the massiv...

yeah not a bad spawn at all

warm haven Apr 13, 2026, 7:25 PM

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gaunt rose but then again I didn't really expect cadavers on dine either and I've been told...

and yeah, cadavers are guaranteed on adamance but rare on rend/dine/artifice

gaunt rose Apr 13, 2026, 7:25 PM

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also just. yknow it's nice to have an enemy show up in more than one spot in the game's progression

warm haven Apr 13, 2026, 7:25 PM

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"rare" they are actually like the third most common spawn on dine but anyways i digress

gaunt rose Apr 13, 2026, 7:26 PM

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gaunt rose also just. yknow it's nice to have an enemy show up in more than one spot in the...

sapsucker only shows up on vow, assurance and adamance right? and no other moons after that which is a bit sad cuz you don't get to interact with it much

gaunt rose Apr 13, 2026, 7:26 PM

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warm haven "rare" they are actually like the third most common spawn on dine but anyways i ...

it's a low number for most moons but not for dine I guess right?

warm haven Apr 13, 2026, 7:27 PM

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butlers are like 16%, then barbers like 12%, then cadavers like 11%
on rend and artifice cadavers are like <5%

warm haven Apr 13, 2026, 7:28 PM

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gaunt rose sapsucker only shows up on vow, assurance and adamance right? and no other moons...

also yeah i think it'd be cool for the sapsucker to present on artifice sometimes (if he fixed their wack ass behavior with old birds), but i think zeekerss is trying to move towards giving each moon unique sights to see instead of having everything spawn everywhere

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and this is a respectable goal imo even if it feels like the sapsucker/feiopar are currently the only examples of that

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i assume it will become a lot more of a forefront decision with v85 adding even more creatures

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this is probably best discussed in another thread though

gaunt rose Apr 13, 2026, 7:33 PM

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warm haven also yeah i think it'd be cool for the sapsucker to present on artifice sometime...

and I think that's what he should do too yeah

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making each moon have unique threats is nice, or at least a signature threat

gaunt rose Apr 13, 2026, 7:34 PM

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warm haven this is probably best discussed in another thread though

was goonna say yeah we're kinda straying away from the main topic here lol

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stamps cool, scrap good

hot cave Apr 14, 2026, 12:37 AM

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There is one image in particular I saw is what I thought box of stamps would be

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It's really low resolution but I was thinking something like this?

toxic finch Apr 14, 2026, 7:30 PM

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hot cave There is one image in particular I saw is what I thought box of stamps would be

reminded me of those grandma cookie tins they keep sewing stuff in

gaunt rose Apr 14, 2026, 8:23 PM

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lol that's a classic

fervent oak Apr 15, 2026, 8:20 AM

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toxic finch reminded me of those grandma cookie tins they keep sewing stuff in

Bro why is this experience universal?

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I thought it was unique to some places

hot cave Apr 15, 2026, 11:58 PM

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I just realized that transparent textures do not have the cel shader applied to them

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well...

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fuck

warm haven Apr 15, 2026, 11:59 PM

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ya

hot cave Apr 15, 2026, 11:59 PM

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Oh god

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||That means I might have to actually model out the fire truck ladder||

warm haven Apr 16, 2026, 12:00 AM

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warm haven ya

apparently it [isn't an easy fix](#1345089401100701778 message) either

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even if some central mod (like lethal sponge, i guess??) decided to take up the mantle

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i imagine this is part of why perfumes use a separate material for their cap

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if not "the entire reason"

warm haven Apr 16, 2026, 12:01 AM

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warm haven the only thing i'd maybe change about the coffee pot is using a different materi...

and that's why i mentioned the coffee pot all that time ago

hot cave Apr 16, 2026, 12:02 AM

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Wait what

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oh my god I didn't even notice that

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Oh wait it does work now

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🤔

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I did make tweaks to it since then

gaunt rose Apr 16, 2026, 12:32 AM

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hot cave I did make tweaks to it since then

that looks sick

hot cave Apr 16, 2026, 12:38 AM

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Damn

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||I might have to exclude fire truck for now until I can figure out what to do with it's model because I didn't know that was a thing with the renderer||

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||Not to mention I'm not really happy with it's model in general||

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||It's changed a bit since I posted that one preview video but I still can't get it to look right.||

hot cave Apr 16, 2026, 3:01 AM

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I'm gonna be pushing an update soon, only a visual and tweaks update so no new items.

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However the big thing is that now that DawnLib supports setting up scrap to spawn by route pricing, I'm thinking of maybe switching over to that but I'm also not sure.

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I do like being deliberate to an extent with how I set up my scrap weights, but I'd imagine people would like to mess around with my scrap on custom moons too without having to fenagle with configs too much.

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Agh this is tough

warm haven Apr 16, 2026, 3:15 AM

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is there a way to manually define weights for the vanilla moons and then automatically categorize stuff for custom content

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i like the "intentionality" of manually assigning weights to the vanilla moons and i wouldn't want to miss out on that just for ease of use with custom moons

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especially since a lot of custom moons tend to have pretty focused design

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but i dont play a ton of custom content and i also don't really make modpacks so that's just my perspective

hot cave Apr 16, 2026, 3:17 AM

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Afaik, not really.

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The best I can do is define a weight for pricing, then adjust it for each of the vanilla moons either by adding, subtracting, or multiplying.

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So technically yes it's possible but it's in a very obtuse way.

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I can also set them to spawn based on interior but I'd rather not do that.

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It'd be cool if they could be set to spawn based on the interior chance rather than the interior directly.

hot cave Apr 16, 2026, 8:37 PM

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Curiously, is there any balance changes to the scrap you guys would like?

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Any value or weight changes?

pulsar wraith Apr 16, 2026, 9:09 PM

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Tuba’s value range is a bit crazy, I think normal scraps should not have more than around a 40 credit range personally. Seeing a Tuba worth less than 80 gives me the same “aw man” feeling that a below 100 Cash Register does

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iirc I buffed Cash Register base value in my mod pack

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I also thought the Diamond would be closer to Gold Bar value, but that is just a personal thing. It is a good trade-off for it being much easier to carry

hot cave Apr 16, 2026, 9:35 PM

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Tuba is kinda like a diet cash register.

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I'm more worried about stuff like the briefcase which is pretty low value for a 2-hander that spawns on high-tier moons only

pine perch Apr 16, 2026, 10:08 PM

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I feel like the briefcase is a diet cash register

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It's so heavy, I often don't look forward to bringing it back to the ship, honestly

pulsar wraith Apr 16, 2026, 10:27 PM

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Yeah I think Briefcase should be lighter now that you say it. I like the idea of a light but lower value 2-handed

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Like the Plastic Box from Wesley’s Fission

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Only thing we have like that in vanilla is Toilet Paper

hot cave Apr 16, 2026, 10:59 PM

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Version 81.1.1

Updated the visuals of the Bucket, Coffee pot, Diamond, Frying pan, Pizza box, and Top hat.
Adjusted the colliders of the Coffee pot and Frying pan.
Added item groups to the Briefcase, and Pizza box.
Briefcase value buffed from 50-80 to 60-84 and weight decreased from 34 lbs to 28 lbs
Icon updated!

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Terraformer9x/TerrasScrap/

Thunderstore

TerrasScrap v81.1.1

A collection of vanilla styled scrap!

pine perch Apr 17, 2026, 12:33 AM

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Now these are good changes

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Good job c:

hot cave Apr 17, 2026, 12:43 AM

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I forgot to mention the diamond got visual changes in the zip's changelog xd

pulsar wraith Apr 17, 2026, 2:50 AM

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Glad it got adjusted, I thought it was a little eh

past knoll Apr 17, 2026, 6:52 AM

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That new icon POPS

gaunt rose Apr 17, 2026, 6:12 PM

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fr

hot cave Apr 17, 2026, 7:08 PM

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I wanted the icon to be more than just text.

mellow fossil Apr 17, 2026, 7:36 PM

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Tuba > words

hot cave Apr 19, 2026, 2:02 AM

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Trying to figure out how to make a bundle of cords that is not gonna be overloaded with triangles.

fervent oak Apr 20, 2026, 8:13 AM

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hot cave Trying to figure out how to make a bundle of cords that is not gonna be overload...

good luck vro ✌️ 😭

hot cave Apr 29, 2026, 9:16 PM

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Alrighty, so I am still working on a bunch of new stuff for this upcoming update to the mod.

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I was contemplating what to do with setting weights on custom moons.

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I was thinking of maybe just asking moon devs that if they want me to add weights for my scrap to my moon I could.

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Since it wouldn't be hard to do.

hot cave Apr 29, 2026, 9:38 PM

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Either way, I'm hoping to have the next update out sometime this weekend.

gaunt rose Apr 30, 2026, 12:57 AM

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you can consult people yeah

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I think that's the safest way to do it

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other way is using very specific tags like GenericInteriors

hot cave Apr 30, 2026, 1:31 AM

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I was thinking more so if any moon devs like this mod, they can just tell me what weights to add for their moon.

hot cave May 1, 2026, 4:14 PM

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Version 81.2.0

Added 13 new scrap!
- Check the wiki for more details (and spoilers!)
Moved credits to their own wiki page, also provided a CREDITS.MD in the zip file.

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Terraformer9x/TerrasScrap/

Thunderstore

TerrasScrap v81.2.0

A collection of vanilla styled scrap!

warm haven May 1, 2026, 4:23 PM

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13...

hot cave May 1, 2026, 4:25 PM

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Some stuff I was gonna add originally didn't make it because I wanna develop their models a bit more, like the lunch box I showed myself modelling didn't make it because I thought the model was too lacking.

digital kite May 1, 2026, 6:49 PM

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From the name lineup, that is pretty awesome. ||Really glad that the firetruck made it in||

dusk nymph May 1, 2026, 6:51 PM

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You treat us so well

modest flower May 1, 2026, 7:59 PM

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For some reason everytime I try playing with this mod enabled this error appears

[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
Dusk.DefaultContentHandler..ctor (Dusk.DuskMod mod) (at ./src/API/Auto/DefaultContentHandler.cs:11)
Dusk.DuskMod.RegisterNoCodeMod (Dusk.DuskModInformation modInfo, UnityEngine.AssetBundle mainBundle, System.String basePath) (at ./src/API/DuskMod.cs:49)
Dusk.AutoDuskModHandler.AutoRegisterMods () (at ./src/API/Auto/AutoDuskModHandler.cs:31)
Dusk.DuskPlugin.Awake () (at ./src/DuskPlugin.cs:57)
UnityEngine.GameObject:AddComponent(Type)
BepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader:DMDBepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader::Start()
MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition:TrampolineBepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader::Start?-212075848()
AsyncLoggers.Patches.ChainloaderPatch:DetourStart(Action) (at ./Preloader/src/Patches/ChainloaderPatch.cs:42)
MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition:HookBepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader::Start?-2115835088()
UnityEngine.XR.Management.XRGeneralSettings:Awake()

hot cave May 1, 2026, 8:02 PM

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modest flower For some reason everytime I try playing with this mod enabled this error appears...

Hmm, I'm not getting that on my end.

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When does the error show up?

modest flower May 1, 2026, 8:11 PM

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on startup

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loading all mods

hot cave May 1, 2026, 8:12 PM

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It might be an issue with dawn because I'm getting no errors on my end.

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Is DawnLib on the latest version?

modest flower May 1, 2026, 8:14 PM

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actually, I figured it out. This mod requires FixPluginTypesSerialization to be enabled

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didn't thought that was the issue

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sry

hot cave May 1, 2026, 8:14 PM

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Oh wait does it now?

modest flower May 1, 2026, 8:15 PM

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At least on my end that's how it's working

hot cave May 1, 2026, 8:15 PM

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Wait lemme see something

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Ok it's already a requirement of DawnLib

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Phew

warm haven May 1, 2026, 10:26 PM

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i love the ||coffee creamer||

pulsar wraith May 1, 2026, 11:24 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/nikocado-avocado-nikocado-vkei-gif-25741700

Tenor

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We’re eating well with this update

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My favorite it probably the ||Fuzzy Dice||

hot cave May 2, 2026, 1:28 AM

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I'm glad you guys are enjoying it 🙏

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Hopefully the scrap doesn't come up as too rare but I also try to not disturb the value of moons too much.

warm haven May 2, 2026, 2:13 AM

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is there a reason there's no price randomization for ||bonsai trees|| or ||anvils||?

hot cave May 2, 2026, 2:14 AM

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It's a design choice.

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Technically they do have random prices if you put up the scrap multiplier.

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But it's mostly "artistic choice" if you will for why they're at fixed prices.

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||Anvils are stereotypically heavy, so I thought giving a flat 100 value to an item that is 100 lbs would be fitting.||

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||Bonsai tree is kinda meant to be a special unique scrap to Artifice, and so I gave it a flat 75 price.||

warm haven May 2, 2026, 2:21 AM

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i see

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i suppose i could just change it in my config but i do think the price randomization adds a lot to the "feel"

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even something subtle like ||$74-78 for bonsai trees|| would play "just about the same" but be less noticeable as an outlier in game

warm haven May 2, 2026, 2:23 AM

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hot cave ||Anvils are stereotypically heavy, so I thought giving a flat 100 value to an i...

but i suppose i get what you mean

hot cave May 2, 2026, 2:30 AM

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Yeah, I mean if multiple people prefer if they were random prices I could always change it in the next update.

warm haven May 2, 2026, 4:31 AM

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possibly just a mod conflict but the ||fuzzy dice|| do not appear to drop correctly

hot cave May 2, 2026, 4:32 AM

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warm haven possibly just a mod conflict but the ||fuzzy dice|| do not appear to drop correc...

Hmm, how did you drop them?

warm haven May 2, 2026, 4:35 AM

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just dropped them

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doesn't seem to be affected by any angle

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dropped on floor, tables, etc. always seems to float above the surface

hot cave May 2, 2026, 4:38 AM

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Strange..

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Out of curiousity, do you have Matty's Fixes?

hot cave May 2, 2026, 4:56 AM

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That's the only mod that I can think of that would affect item positioning.

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I don't normally use Matty's Fixes though so that's why I'm wondering.

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Aha it was.

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Oh I think I know what's happening, and if it's what I think then it's gonna be real annoying to fix.

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So the animation for the ||fuzzy dice|| actually goes below the on ground pose in it's prefab, and so Matty's Fixes is probably thinking that's the bottom of it.

hot cave May 2, 2026, 5:47 AM

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Agh that is so annoying.

warm haven May 2, 2026, 5:55 AM

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well

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with matty fixes

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you can set a vertical offset

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so if you know how many units it's off

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i can just fix that in my config 🙂

hot cave May 2, 2026, 5:56 AM

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You could, but i'd rather push a fix for it.

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Matty set's it vertical offest to 0.9'something.

hot cave May 2, 2026, 6:20 AM

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Wait I think I just found a really clever fix to this.

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ack nvm

quartz zealot May 2, 2026, 6:41 AM

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warm haven i can just fix that in my config 🙂

you could probably modify config values of another mod if yours is installed right?

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talking about terra's scrap

hot cave May 2, 2026, 6:42 AM

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She could, but then it becomes a whole thing of having to let everyone know that certain scrap have to have values added to their configs for them to work properly.

quartz zealot May 2, 2026, 6:42 AM

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oh no I was talking about you I should've made that clear

warm haven May 2, 2026, 6:43 AM

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well i think they mean terra's scrap would have code to edit the matty fixes config

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i think it's technically possible but not very good practice

quartz zealot May 2, 2026, 6:43 AM

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like have a script to edit the config of matty fixes

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ah damn

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what fix is causing this anyway

hot cave May 2, 2026, 6:44 AM

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Vertical offsets.

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I'm not sure what's happening, but it's related to the animations.

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I found out it's not just ||fuzzy dice|| that has this issue.

warm haven May 2, 2026, 6:51 AM

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purple asked me to let you know that the ||fuzzy dice|| makes global audio when dropped

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unrelated to the other thing

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might be worth checking all the rolloff settings on each item, in case it affects other items too

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but it seems to at least impact the ||fuzzy dice||

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suppose i should spoil that too

hot cave May 2, 2026, 7:04 AM

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Ah right, fixed that.

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Alright I'm gonna try to fix this tomorrow.

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I can't figure out how Matty Fixes determines it's vertical offsets for items.

hot cave May 2, 2026, 4:23 PM

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Version 81.2.1

Adjusted the visual of the Fuzzy dice.
Fixed Fuzzy dice having global audio.
Adjusted the vertical offset of the Top hat.

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Terraformer9x/TerrasScrap/

Thunderstore

TerrasScrap v81.2.1

A collection of vanilla styled scrap!

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The whole vertical offset issue with Matty Fixes seemed to be something on both our ends.

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Because it didn't account for any scrap whose animation goes below it's resting pose.

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However, some vanilla scrap also has this issue, primarily the tongue lol.

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So it's being fixed on Matty Fixes's end.

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Out of curiosity, has anyone actually found the boot recently?

steep mist May 2, 2026, 4:37 PM

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i recall finding it sometime before this update

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that was with ArduousHardships though so things might've been adjusted

hot cave May 2, 2026, 4:38 PM

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Before it switched to DawnLib?

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I'm only asking because I have not seen it spawn naturally once since I switched

steep mist May 2, 2026, 4:39 PM

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not sure when that happened but it was april 20th

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i think purple was messing with the spawn stuff so that might not be a great point of reference but i have seen it

pulsar wraith May 2, 2026, 8:56 PM

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You could easily test it by adding Boot to Dine with Lunar, even at 1 weight it probably will spawn if it can

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It might just be that moons have so much scrap in their pool now that the Boot’s 1 weight is more and more insignificant

hot cave May 2, 2026, 9:01 PM

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DawnLib does spawn it if the weight is set higher.

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I'm already having to experiment a bit with LunarConfig due to a weird issue it's causing with enemy max counts seemingly being doubled.

toxic finch May 2, 2026, 11:16 PM

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hot cave DawnLib does spawn it if the weight is set higher.

how many of the items have custom sounds

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besides the tuba

hot cave May 2, 2026, 11:18 PM

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6, including the tuba.

toxic finch May 2, 2026, 11:19 PM

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hot cave 6, including the tuba.

(can I know which ones, im making a sound pack to give modded scrap all unique sounds)

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yours is just one

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I havent used the mod in a while XP

hot cave May 2, 2026, 11:21 PM

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Anvil, Egg timer, Fire truck, Power drill, Rocking horse, and Tuba.

toxic finch May 2, 2026, 11:21 PM

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hot cave Anvil, Egg timer, Fire truck, Power drill, Rocking horse, and Tuba.

perfect thanks

hot cave May 2, 2026, 11:21 PM

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Most of the custom sounds are interaction related.

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Exception are anvil and rocking horse.

toxic finch May 2, 2026, 11:22 PM

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oh yeah here is meant to be pickup and drop sounds mainly

hot cave May 2, 2026, 11:22 PM

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Oh, well just anvil and rocking horse then.

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Every other item uses vanilla sounds.

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Although because of how asset bundles work, it's actually duplicates of the vanilla sounds but there's really not much that can be done about that.

warm haven May 2, 2026, 11:54 PM

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also the ||fire truck|| has a bug i noticed
its not gamebreaking
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well the bug is when ||you pocket it and unpocket it the light doesnt remain||

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another bug report purple wanted me to pass along

hot cave May 2, 2026, 11:55 PM

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Pocket and unpocket?

warm haven May 2, 2026, 11:56 PM

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like, keep it in your inventory, scroll off (to another slot), and then scroll back on

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the item becomes pocketed, and then it is "unpocketed" when you are holding it again

hot cave May 2, 2026, 11:56 PM

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Is it making a sound without light?

warm haven May 2, 2026, 11:56 PM

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ill have to ask for clarification

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i havent seen it myself

hot cave May 2, 2026, 11:57 PM

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Sometimes it will just not activate on pickup, that's normal.

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It's similar to the robot toy and teeth

warm haven May 2, 2026, 11:57 PM

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hot cave Is it making a sound without light?

yes

hot cave May 2, 2026, 11:58 PM

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???

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Strange

warm haven May 2, 2026, 11:58 PM

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ya

hot cave May 2, 2026, 11:59 PM

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The code for it is really simple as it's just an animated item but with a few extra things in the update.

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        {
            base.Update();
            if (itemAudio.isPlaying && !isPocketed)
            {
                light1.gameObject.SetActive(true);
                light2.gameObject.SetActive(true);
            }
            else
            {
                light1.gameObject.SetActive(false);
                light2.gameObject.SetActive(false);
            }
        }```

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light1 and light2 are plugged in from the Unity editor.

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Unless they somehow were holding it with it's isPocketed state still being true.

warm haven May 3, 2026, 12:03 AM

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not sure

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i was wondering if maybe isPocketed doesn't sync right across the server

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but apparently he got this issue while he was holding the item himself

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so that's probably not it

hot cave May 3, 2026, 12:04 AM

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I can't really think of what it would be either other than isPocketed got desynced from what the equipped item is.

warm haven May 3, 2026, 12:04 AM

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yeah

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weird

hot cave May 3, 2026, 12:05 AM

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In hindsight, maybe I should have the lighting be handled via the proper functions rather than just having Update check it.

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I could also just turn off the lights by setting their intensity to 0, but I don't know if Unity still computes them.

toxic finch May 3, 2026, 12:08 AM

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unpocket sound and drop sound

hot cave May 3, 2026, 12:09 AM

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The first one sounds more like a thud.

toxic finch May 3, 2026, 12:09 AM

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hot cave The first one sounds more like a thud.

(so do a lot of the vanilla unpocket sounds, but lemme try something else)

hot cave May 3, 2026, 12:18 AM

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Yeah that's a bit more appropriate.

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I'd say the vanilla grab sounds are more like sliding or rustling rather than thudding.

toxic finch May 3, 2026, 12:18 AM

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ill prob cut it down a bit less and itll prob be readt (overcliped it here)

hot cave May 3, 2026, 12:19 AM

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Having no grab sound works just as well since the player makes a small grab sound too

ebon wind May 3, 2026, 12:20 AM

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this only has sound in the right ear, and there is also some buzzing in the background

toxic finch May 3, 2026, 12:21 AM

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ebon wind this only has sound in the right ear, and there is also some buzzing in the back...

wait what I dont hear that

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in my headphones

ebon wind May 3, 2026, 12:21 AM

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is your audio set to mono?

toxic finch May 3, 2026, 12:21 AM

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ebon wind is your audio set to mono?

no

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stereo

ebon wind May 3, 2026, 12:21 AM

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well this is strange then

toxic finch May 3, 2026, 12:22 AM

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ebon wind well this is strange then

well I dont think I can get that hum out shit

warm haven May 3, 2026, 12:22 AM

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it's also panned completely to the right for me

ebon wind May 3, 2026, 12:23 AM

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yeah i think you'd have to be on mono if you can't hear it only in the right

toxic finch May 3, 2026, 12:25 AM

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ebon wind yeah i think you'd have to be on mono if you can't hear it only in the right

its not, at least not for other programs

hot cave May 3, 2026, 12:31 AM

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Yeah I only hear it on the right too,

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sorry I didn't mention it but I assumed you already knew.

toxic finch May 3, 2026, 12:33 AM

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hot cave Yeah I only hear it on the right too,

yeah I realized that now but cant turn off the Aircon, noise cancelling wasnt enough

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so I just decided to work on something else I aint got a good place to record

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(since my mic is wired usd I cant exactly hook it up elsewhere)

ebon wind May 3, 2026, 12:34 AM

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i dont wanna like, steal your thunder or anything but i am curious if i could make a good couple of wallet sounds now

toxic finch May 3, 2026, 12:34 AM

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didnt think the mic would pic up the AC bc its pretty quote

toxic finch May 3, 2026, 12:34 AM

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ebon wind i dont wanna like, steal your thunder or anything but i am curious if i could ma...

I dont care I changed my mind about doing this lol

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I aint got a good way to record myself

ebon wind May 3, 2026, 12:36 AM

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alrighty

toxic finch May 3, 2026, 12:36 AM

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ebon wind alrighty

tbh the audio kinda sounded like crap anyways, this mic is cheap

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mostly have it as a backup if my headset dies

ebon wind May 3, 2026, 12:36 AM

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understandable

ebon wind May 3, 2026, 1:12 AM

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here's what i got for drop

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maybe it should be lowered by a couple db but idk if this is something you'd actually wanna use

hot cave May 3, 2026, 1:42 AM

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I mean, maybe I'd use it idk

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The whole point was to emulate Zeekerss's style of making scrap and that included using vanilla sounds.

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But obviously, Zeekerss is changing up the sounds of some of his items, especially with the introduction of clink sounds.

ebon wind May 3, 2026, 1:54 AM

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yeah i get that

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i'll probably just add this to my uniqueitemsounds mod, but if you do end up wanting to use it then feel free

warm haven May 3, 2026, 2:24 AM

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hot cave But obviously, Zeekerss is changing up the sounds of some of his items, especial...

im glad you mention it because i wanted to say

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i think it'd be cool if you assigned "clink sounds" to some of your items

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like the ||coffee creamer|| could use ||the sound of sloshing liquids from the chemical jug||

hot cave May 3, 2026, 2:27 AM

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I was thinking about it last minute and I might consider it for a future update.

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I'm taking a bit of break since this did take a while and a bit out of me

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Wanna focus on art and other games for now

fervent oak May 3, 2026, 10:34 AM

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hot cave # Version 81.2.0 - Added 13 new scrap! - Check the wiki for more details *(a...

13 scraps? Damn bro moves faster than me

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ATP i'm gonna have to scrap my scraps mod

hot cave May 3, 2026, 2:07 PM

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fervent oak ATP i'm gonna have to scrap my scraps mod

Please don't, I don't wanna discourage other people's creativity.

fervent oak May 3, 2026, 2:08 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/tf2-heavy-heavy-swimming-funny-meme-2024-physics-low-quality-gif-10353404310830381804

Tenor

hot cave May 3, 2026, 4:03 PM

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Besides, I was only able to get so much done because I locked in on making scrap and only making scrap.

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Had to sacrifice other hobbies lol

fervent oak May 3, 2026, 5:24 PM

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fair

ivory quartz May 4, 2026, 12:17 AM

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hello! love this mod, but are any of the scrap in this mod able to be used as a weapon like the stop sign? trying to set these scraps to some moons and I dont want to suppress the spawns of weapon scrap too much if its moon that benefits from weapon scrap a lot (like masked-heavy moons)

also, didnt this mod used to have a throwable glass at some point? was it removed? i might be confusing this with another mod, but thats what I remember from the last time I tried this mod i think

hot cave May 4, 2026, 12:18 AM

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Nope, none of the scrap are weapons.

ivory quartz May 4, 2026, 12:19 AM

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ahh okay okay, thats good to know ty!

pine perch May 4, 2026, 12:25 AM

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hot cave Nope, none of the scrap are weapons.

Maybe save for that firetruck giving someone a heart attack, lol

ivory quartz May 4, 2026, 12:26 AM

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lmao yes i LOVE the little firetruck, that was the one i was most excited to config (to set on dog-heavy moons)

hot cave May 4, 2026, 1:05 AM

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pine perch Maybe save for that firetruck giving someone a heart attack, lol

Lol, oh they would've hated the old one

pine perch May 4, 2026, 1:05 AM

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Oh, was it changed?

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I haven't encountered a fire truck yet

hot cave May 4, 2026, 1:05 AM

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It was originally gonna resemble a modern fire truck but I didn't like the model.

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1319250541418909779/1493064844092510228/SPOILER_2026-04-12_21-40-45.mp4?ex=69f8a33e&is=69f751be&hm=506af77067e876c8853c090aa72c3571753644345cb30f8dc80b8ce01c23f2eb&

▶ Play video

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This was the original

pine perch May 4, 2026, 1:08 AM

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I know about that one

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What's the new one look/sound like?

hot cave May 4, 2026, 1:10 AM

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Just to not spoil it as much, ||it resembles a more vintage fire truck, and has a bell sound now instead of... that siren.||

pine perch May 4, 2026, 1:11 AM

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PEAK

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More fitting thematically, too :p

warm haven May 5, 2026, 6:32 AM

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couple more bug reports

the ||fuzzy dice|| are still broken in v81.2.1, when matty fixes v1.1.40 is installed. i wasn't sure if you intended to fix that with "adjusted visuals", or if you're just waiting for v1.1.41 to release 🙂
the ||power drill||'s mechanics do not seem to work correctly. it appears to ||always have 0% battery when first spawning, and after being used for the first time, it stops working. when it's recharged on the ship, you can use it multiple times in one go, and it appears to have pretty forgiving battery life.||
- i assume the problem is that the prefab's ||"Inserted Battery" has "charge" set to 0, but "empty" is still false||
- if the idea is ||it needs a recharge before it can be used, then "empty" should be set to true||
- if the idea is ||it starts with full battery, "charge" just needs to be set to 1||

hot cave May 5, 2026, 8:57 AM

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warm haven couple more bug reports - the ||fuzzy dice|| are still broken in v81.2.1, when m...

It's a bug under Matty's fixes end, items with animators with parts that animate under the resting position in the prefab get unnatural vertical offsets, the tongue has this issue too. It's fixed in Matty's Fixes Experimental.
I know about the ||Power drill|| having no battery, I plan to fix it.

hot cave May 5, 2026, 9:24 AM

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Version 81.2.2

Fixed Power drill having no battery.

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Terraformer9x/TerrasScrap/

Thunderstore

TerrasScrap v81.2.2

A collection of vanilla styled scrap!

hot cave May 6, 2026, 6:54 PM

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Should I add more gimmicky scrap to this like the egg timer?

fervent oak May 6, 2026, 6:57 PM

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tbf gimmicky items are cool, but having too much could turn your mod from vanilla styled to vanilla + styled

hot cave May 6, 2026, 6:57 PM

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I mean yeah

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Tho at this point this is more just Zeekerss styled stuff than strictly vanilla

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I won't ever add anything that's like insanely game changing

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There are 2 gimmicky items I have in mind, one I might know how to make but the other needs me to learn about how explosions interact with other stuff.

digital kite May 6, 2026, 7:08 PM

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fervent oak tbf gimmicky items are cool, but having too much could turn your mod from vanill...

not necessarily, depends on their spawn weights

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(and gimicks)

fervent oak May 6, 2026, 7:10 PM

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digital kite not necessarily, depends on their spawn weights

well, would you say an item that allows you to place items in it (like a placeable surface) is too gimmicky for instance?

digital kite May 6, 2026, 7:13 PM

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It's hard to say, with the sorta stuff Zeekers has added recently

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well not recently but i'm just fucking old or some shit

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it's so subjective, everything

gaunt rose May 6, 2026, 7:13 PM

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I feel like scrap nowadays don't tend to have much of a use :P

warm haven May 6, 2026, 7:13 PM

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hot cave Should I add more gimmicky scrap to this like the egg timer?

i feel like the egg timer is probably the most interesting scrap item in this mod

fervent oak May 6, 2026, 7:13 PM

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i feel like item

gaunt rose May 6, 2026, 7:13 PM

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and if they have a use it's not the best choice/very inconsistent

warm haven May 6, 2026, 7:13 PM

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and i dont really think it's distracting or anything

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from the vanilla style

gaunt rose May 6, 2026, 7:13 PM

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I do fuck w items that have uses because it forces you to choose utility over money

warm haven May 6, 2026, 7:13 PM

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i could see zeekerss adding an item that works just like the egg timer

gaunt rose May 6, 2026, 7:14 PM

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gaunt rose and if they have a use it's not the best choice/very inconsistent

stop sign and yield sign are worse than the shovel, flashbang is worse than stuns, eggs are inconsistent, etc

fervent oak May 6, 2026, 7:14 PM

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gaunt rose I do fuck w items that have uses because it forces you to choose utility over mo...

400 buck storing unit?

digital kite May 6, 2026, 7:15 PM

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I've not had a chance to check it out, I'm assuming ||that is explodes like an egg after a set timer||

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the egg timer

gaunt rose May 6, 2026, 7:15 PM

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i mean maybe? I'm not sure if increasing the price really fixes a scrap being more powerful than a tool

fervent oak May 6, 2026, 7:15 PM

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gaunt rose i mean maybe? I'm not sure if increasing the price really fixes a scrap being mo...

no it's a tool i'm referring to

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i made 2 versions, a scrap and tool one

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tool one allows you to store two handed, scrap version only allows 1 handed

gaunt rose May 6, 2026, 7:18 PM

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oh then yeah that seems fine?

fervent oak May 6, 2026, 7:18 PM

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oh well eh

warm haven May 6, 2026, 7:18 PM

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the tool one can also be stored in a belt bag

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which is very funny

fervent oak May 6, 2026, 7:19 PM

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warm haven the tool one can also be stored in a belt bag

yup, that's technically not intended and purple did tell me

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but i thought "eh i'll give it until next update"

gaunt rose May 6, 2026, 7:21 PM

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warm haven the tool one can also be stored in a belt bag

mod that lets you store the cruiser into the belg bag

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🧐

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the 45 credit item needs to be more OP, trust!!!

warm haven May 6, 2026, 7:23 PM

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fervent oak but i thought "eh i'll give it until next update"

does dawnlib add some way to blacklist stuff from the belt bag?? because normally the belt bag allows any item that's:

not scrap
not player bodies (these are scrap so it doesn't matter)
not the maneater
and all of this stuff is hardcoded

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i was telling him he just needs to use bagconfig to get around it

hot cave May 6, 2026, 7:52 PM

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digital kite I've not had a chance to check it out, I'm assuming ||that is explodes like an e...

No, I was referring to a hypothetical future scrap

hot cave May 6, 2026, 9:32 PM

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Is it possible to check for explosions with colliders though?

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I recall someone saying not really, but then again how do landmines set each other off?

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Unless they just check for each other when they explode.

warm haven May 6, 2026, 9:42 PM

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Landmine.SpawnExplosion looks for other landmines in the explosion radius and then detonates them if it finds them

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that function is used for all explosions, but if you want to add additional detection behavior to it, you'll have to patch the explosion itself

hot cave May 7, 2026, 2:05 PM

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How would y'all feel on more food related scraps?

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It's weird to think about since contextually they would've been untouched for likely 50+ years atleast

dusk nymph May 7, 2026, 3:09 PM

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i love mold

gaunt rose May 7, 2026, 3:15 PM

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hot cave It's weird to think about since contextually they would've been untouched for li...

i mean there's weirder stuff

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half the corpse parts should be decomposed

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but if you're worried about continuity cans would probably work!

hot cave May 7, 2026, 3:17 PM

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That is true

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Rations might not be a bad idea

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But I was thinking more oddball like ||cake|| or ||gelatin||

gaunt rose May 7, 2026, 3:18 PM

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ye I think those fit!

gaunt rose May 7, 2026, 3:19 PM

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hot cave Rations might not be a bad idea

something like MREs would be kinda cool tho idk where you'd exactly put em

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||cake|| on dine surrounded by body parts

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FUCKYOU

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what a sweet treat!

hot cave May 7, 2026, 3:21 PM

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Well my idea for the ||cake|| is a bit gimmicky.

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||It would be similar to the whoopie cushion, however the sound it makes isn't as pronounced. However, stepping on the cake will reduce it's value. (Atleast until you go into orbit where it's value is locked)||

gaunt rose May 7, 2026, 3:22 PM

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im interested

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oh that's neat!

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that's a really good gimmick

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it's really subtle

hot cave May 7, 2026, 3:23 PM

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I just need to think about how I wanna handle it's value because I don't want people potentially griefing in orbit.

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||Especially decreasing it's value before you even land||

gaunt rose May 7, 2026, 3:28 PM

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mmm right

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well if you have it generate on table tops that's not very likely to happen, right?

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and if you're ||locking the value in orbit then that shouldn't be a problem really||

worthy linden May 7, 2026, 3:29 PM

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hot cave ||Especially decreasing it's value before you even land||

||maybe lock the price when the cake is notified in the ship?||

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Usual Scrap does that thing in a lot of their scraps for its mechanics

warm haven May 7, 2026, 3:52 PM

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i like this mechanic but personally i dont think ||a cake|| is aesthetically all that consistent

gaunt rose May 7, 2026, 3:53 PM

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maybe i'm biased towards it cuz ||fiufki scraps|| had one and it felt like it fit in pretty well

warm haven May 7, 2026, 3:54 PM

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lethal company typically only has "borderline non-perishables"

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pickles are preserved for the sake of longterm stockpiling

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lollipops arent perishable

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there's soda cans and the bin of soda bottles but those might even be empty

gaunt rose May 7, 2026, 3:56 PM

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bottles look empty yeah

warm haven May 7, 2026, 3:57 PM

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meanwhile ||a cake|| would be super perishable and probably totally spoiled by the time it was discovered given the timeframe of lethal company

gaunt rose May 7, 2026, 3:57 PM

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I agree completely tho that's why I suggested doing canned goods or MREs instead but ||cake|| seems like it would fit on a place like mansion even if it doesn't make too much sense

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like. it wouldn't be a scrap that really makes sense, just like the beating heart or the severed corpse parts

warm haven May 7, 2026, 3:59 PM

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i agree the dine scrap doesnt really make sense but it is also a single type of scrap restricted to a single moon and it is possible that dine is just "anomalous" in nature to some extent

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i dont think it makes much of a difference toward the feel of perishable food items

gaunt rose May 7, 2026, 3:59 PM

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fair fair

warm haven May 7, 2026, 3:59 PM

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to be fair i dont really think zeekerss knows what is going on on dine either

hot cave May 7, 2026, 4:00 PM

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Yeah, it's why i'm sort of iffy on whether I wanna go through with the idea because lore wise it doesn't make sense.

gaunt rose May 7, 2026, 4:00 PM

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I do agree tho, like I said, just feel like it could be brushed off potentially

warm haven May 7, 2026, 4:00 PM

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in v90 all the body part scraps will be removed and replaced with a bunch of collectible party city costumes

hot cave May 7, 2026, 4:00 PM

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But, there are also implications that Lethal's reality might not even be real.

warm haven May 7, 2026, 4:00 PM

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and the game will fully release with dine and rend still having the same lore despite being totally different

gaunt rose May 7, 2026, 4:00 PM

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warm haven in v90 all the body part scraps will be removed and replaced with a bunch of col...

finally, playzone will be canon...

gaunt rose May 7, 2026, 4:01 PM

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warm haven and the game will fully release with dine and rend still having the same lore de...

i feel like that's not unlikely

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i do think it'll be adressed but it's one of those things that would just slip by

hot cave May 7, 2026, 4:01 PM

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hot cave *But*, there are also implications that Lethal's reality might not even be real.

Then again this is really ambiguous and I ain't even really sure if this is what Zeekerss is implying.

gaunt rose May 7, 2026, 4:02 PM

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hot cave *But*, there are also implications that Lethal's reality might not even be real.

atleast our perception of it? ye there's a few arguments for that

warm haven May 7, 2026, 4:03 PM

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anyways i would be more open to stuff like ||gelatin|| personally but apparently it's not that nonperishable either

warm haven May 7, 2026, 4:03 PM

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warm haven anyways i would be more open to stuff like ||gelatin|| personally but apparently...

so im not sure how much "the reality matters"

hot cave May 7, 2026, 4:03 PM

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Either way, ||cake|| is likely to be a rare scrap anyway so it's not something that'd be common place.

gaunt rose May 7, 2026, 4:03 PM

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ye that sounds fine

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they're toggleable anyway right? I haven't really tried this new update yet lol I have not modded v81 at all

warm haven May 7, 2026, 4:04 PM

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i feel like the "step on it and it loses value" idea could also work for items like glasses

gaunt rose May 7, 2026, 4:05 PM

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that do be true

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I think ||cake|| is a bit of a funnier scrap to add that gimmick to personally but I wouldn't be opposed to something else that's super fragile like that

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imagine if you step on the ||cake|| and ||you get little footstep decals that look like frosting for one or two seconds||

warm haven May 7, 2026, 4:06 PM

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i do like that mechanic applied to ||a cake scrap|| more too, yeah, but i think the sheer existence of it as an item is kind of an immersion breaker for me

gaunt rose May 7, 2026, 4:06 PM

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completely understand ye

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i've been pickier over less

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gogoSmile

hot cave May 7, 2026, 4:07 PM

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The immersion breaking factor is kinda why I wanted to make it a rare occurance.

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I mean, probably the most questionable thing in this mod is the ||body pillow||

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but even then, it's blank.

gaunt rose May 7, 2026, 4:08 PM

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oh i haven't seen that one but I did read it in the wiki and I did question it a little just from the idea of one

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just cuz when someone says body pillow I immediately think of the fuckin anime ones lmao

hot cave May 7, 2026, 4:09 PM

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Yeah lol

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It only spawns on 3 moons

gaunt rose May 7, 2026, 4:10 PM

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if it's blank tho idrm

gaunt rose May 7, 2026, 4:10 PM

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hot cave It only spawns on 3 moons

which ones? I tried checking the wiki to see where each spawned but i can't find it

hot cave May 7, 2026, 4:11 PM

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Oh I mean you can see in the configs what moons each thing is defaulted to spawn on

gaunt rose May 7, 2026, 4:11 PM

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ohhh i just saw you added a ||rocking horse|| that's so nostalgic fuck

gaunt rose May 7, 2026, 4:11 PM

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hot cave Oh I mean you can see in the configs what moons each thing is defaulted to spawn...

well ye ik, it's just useful to have that sorta info on a wiki

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tho it's a pain in the ass to keep track of if you rebalance spawns lol

hot cave May 7, 2026, 4:12 PM

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That's why I try to make them not too invasive, unless it's really in the theme of that moon.

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Like wine bottles are really common on Rend.

gaunt rose May 7, 2026, 4:12 PM

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ye that makes sense

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i've only seen some of the rarer scraps like the boot, briefcase and wallet one or two times each with out of the box chances

hot cave May 7, 2026, 4:14 PM

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It's also why I'm hesitant on adding spawns based on route price.

gaunt rose May 7, 2026, 4:14 PM

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yee

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generic did that at some point and I don't usually mind but some of my moons would get swamped with his items from time to time

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so I had to bump the base scrap weights like 20 each to remedy that

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anyway, staying on topic!!! regardless of what you apply it to I think the mechanic is a super fun idea and i'm excited to try it when I eventually move over to v81 + dawnlib

hot cave May 7, 2026, 4:16 PM

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If only Zeekerss hadn't v73'ed Dine, I would definitely add stuff there too.

gaunt rose May 7, 2026, 4:16 PM

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yeahh...

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if it was a 50/50 split of the new shit vs the old shit it'd be justifiable but it's so hard to fit shit in that moon's pool now

hot cave May 7, 2026, 4:18 PM

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It's why I'm so grateful for stuff like Lunar Config, because I can just enjoy the sort of Dine I prefer.

gaunt rose May 7, 2026, 4:19 PM

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yerr

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butterybalance also had a few good settings for Dine

hot cave May 7, 2026, 4:19 PM

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Yee, but I like making my Dine sort of akin to the v49 one, minus the exterior changes.

gaunt rose May 7, 2026, 4:20 PM

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you a real one I see...

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https://tenor.com/view/funny-jojo-gif-19453868

Tenor

hot cave May 7, 2026, 4:21 PM

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I even have a doc for how to setup my dine lmfao

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Max outside power: 9
Outside curve: 0.00,-2.90 ; 0.50,0.05 ; 1.00,8.40
Min scrap: 21
Max scrap: 28

Spawnable scrap:
Magic 7 ball:24, Airhorn:15, Bell:40, Big bolt:4, Bottles:45, Brush:18, Candy:25, Cash register:14, Clown horn:12, Large axle:11, Teeth:35, V-type engine:9, Golden cup:36, Fancy lamp:45, Painting:46, Plastic fish:16, Laser pointer:5, Hairdryer:43, Magnifying glass:35, Mug:48, Perfume bottle:28, Old phone:17, Jar of pickles:9, Pill bottle:4, Ring:18, Toy robot:23, Rubber Ducky:25, Red soda:33, Tea kettle:30, Toothpaste:38, Toy cube:15, Gift:19, Tragedy:37, Comedy:29, Garbage lid:4, Toilet paper:14, Whoopie cusion:12, Easter egg:42, Zed Dog:1, Briefcase:30, Bucket:9, Coffee pot:33, Fan:13, Frying pan:30, Pizza box:6, Toaster:16, Top hat:7, Tuba:12, Wallet:13, Wine bottle:34, Fire extinguisher:21, Lava lamp:19, Fuzzy dice:11, Egg timer:25, Fire truck:22, Power drill:4, Watering can:7

Spawnable interior enemies:
Flowerman:25, Centipede:52, Crawler:48, Hoarding bug:48, Bunker Spider:64, Blob:39, Girl:18, Spring:53, Jester:66, Puffer:16, Nutcracker:60, Butler:100, Clay Surgeon:60, Maneater:30, Stingray:26, Cadaver Growths:20

Spawnable outside enemies:
MouthDog:68, ForestGiant:31, Earth Leviathan:50, RadMech:11

Possible interiors:
Level1Flow:7, Level2Flow:300, Level3Flow:17```

gaunt rose May 7, 2026, 4:23 PM

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that's p similar to how I had mine set up too yeah!

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also we love keeping docs for our changes

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gogoSmile

ebon wind May 9, 2026, 7:46 PM

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does the lava lamp have a set number of variations in color, or is it like a spectrum of like a billion shades? curious because im trying to get renders of them but dunno if i'm missing something

warm haven May 9, 2026, 7:48 PM

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ebon wind does the lava lamp have a set number of variations in color, or is it like a spe...

it can be randomized to any hue 0-359

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according to source

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on that note, i am noticing

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i think randomizing in GrabbableObject.Start() doesn't always guarantee every client has the same randomMapSeed

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i think purple was saying the lava lamps don't synchronize their color between host and "all clients"

ebon wind May 9, 2026, 7:52 PM

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warm haven it can be randomized to any hue 0-359

perceive i see

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that is quite a lot, but not as much as i thought so that's kinda good

warm haven May 9, 2026, 7:56 PM

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warm haven i think randomizing in `GrabbableObject.Start()` doesn't always guarantee every ...

i think using GrabbableObject.InitializeAfterPositioning() is safe (and probably should be used if you want targetFloorPosition anyway)

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alternatively you can do what Upturned Variety does and patch SyncScrapValuesClientRpc() and initialize variants there (technically this is what vanilla does with materialVariants and meshVariants)

gaunt rose May 9, 2026, 7:58 PM

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ebon wind that is quite a lot, but not as much as i thought so that's kinda good

359 icons?

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AwesomeEmoji~1

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I'll be waiting

hot cave May 9, 2026, 8:06 PM

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ebon wind does the lava lamp have a set number of variations in color, or is it like a spe...

It's randomized by hue.

hot cave May 9, 2026, 8:07 PM

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warm haven alternatively you can do what Upturned Variety does and patch `SyncScrapValuesC...

To be honest, I don't wanna go straight to patching stuff right away since I literally don't even reference BepInEx in the .dll.

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InitializeAfterPositioning is probably a better choice anyway

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That makes me wonder though if the egg timers sync properly.

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From doing LAN testing, they seem to work fine enough.

warm haven May 9, 2026, 8:11 PM

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i dunno

hot cave May 9, 2026, 8:12 PM

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Uh oh

warm haven May 9, 2026, 8:12 PM

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though i should mention

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gift box andthe dine scrap (for flies) use InitializeAfterPositioning() and do not reference the random map seed at all

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im pretty sure it still wouldnt be synced at that point

hot cave May 9, 2026, 8:13 PM

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Oh god

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I'm more worried about the egg timers not syncing properly.

warm haven May 9, 2026, 8:14 PM

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well for what it's worth i haven't seen them desync as of yet

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also it looks like even vanilla items would have desync issues

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AnimatedItem also randomizes in Start() based on randomMapSeed

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lol

hot cave May 9, 2026, 8:15 PM

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I'm really scared of the prospect of having to touch networking on a patch level.

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Especially since it doesn't work straight out of the box since it needs external patching before it can even begin to work due to how Unity RPCs are.

hot cave May 9, 2026, 8:19 PM

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ebon wind does the lava lamp have a set number of variations in color, or is it like a spe...

Actually how are you getting renders of each of the colors?

ebon wind May 9, 2026, 8:20 PM

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With runtimeicons after ive spawned in a bunch of random lamps

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im honestly just gonna leave it out of my renders folder though bc i dont know which would be the "correct" color

hot cave May 9, 2026, 8:21 PM

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The default color is red.

warm haven May 9, 2026, 8:23 PM

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hot cave I'm really scared of the prospect of having to touch networking on a patch level...

postfixing existing RPCs is fine and doesn't require the netcode patcher

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you can even prefix them "in a certain number of contexts" without causing issues though it's a bit iffier

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but yes, i didnt realize terra's scrap was totally avoiding patching

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in that case i guess you could just use targetFloorPosition in InitializeAfterPositioning

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although that's probably gonna limit the number of total lava lamp colors

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since there's only so many valid integer positions they could spawn

hot cave May 9, 2026, 8:26 PM

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Is it enough to atleast have every general color available?

warm haven May 9, 2026, 8:28 PM

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i mean, prolly yeah

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maybe not all 360

hot cave May 9, 2026, 8:28 PM

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That's fine.

warm haven May 9, 2026, 8:32 PM

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you could add the y position

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to increase the range of possile numbers

plush hearth May 9, 2026, 8:42 PM

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got a moon with only diamonds

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holy peak

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🥹

gaunt rose May 9, 2026, 8:52 PM

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plush hearth got a moon with only diamonds

literally gem alert

plush hearth May 9, 2026, 8:56 PM

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gaunt rose literally gem alert

https://tenor.com/view/a-gem-benjammins-chud-door-door-cam-gif-7224643390232569308

Tenor

hot cave May 9, 2026, 9:26 PM

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plush hearth got a moon with only diamonds

Titan Diamond SID holy shi...

plush hearth May 9, 2026, 9:26 PM

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hot cave Titan Diamond SID holy shi...

it was sadly on egypt on first quota

hot cave May 9, 2026, 9:26 PM

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What the

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Oh did you put it on Egypt

plush hearth May 9, 2026, 9:27 PM

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i was playing with the moon installed

hot cave May 9, 2026, 9:27 PM

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wait a minute, what did the diamond look like

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because it might not be the same item, I know other mods add gems.

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Diamonds are only set to spawn on Titan by default.

plush hearth May 9, 2026, 9:28 PM

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nah i tweaked the spawns for the scrap

hot cave May 9, 2026, 9:28 PM

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ohh okie

fervent oak May 9, 2026, 10:47 PM

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ebon wind im honestly just gonna leave it out of my renders folder though bc i dont know w...

oh my god

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it's so much better than mine

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am i chopped

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https://giphy.com/gifs/falling-better-call-saul-chuck-mcgill-xRvyefRsljylhqIgos

Giphy

FartSniffr

hot cave May 9, 2026, 11:16 PM

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fervent oak May 9, 2026, 11:34 PM

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hot cave

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/575150885764726794/1494861068235964588/togif.gif

hot cave May 10, 2026, 6:14 PM

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Wondering what I should do with the lava lamp.

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Part of me wants to make it a one-hander because it's not really that big.

ebon wind May 10, 2026, 6:54 PM

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I feel like it makes sense as a one-hander

hot cave May 10, 2026, 7:18 PM

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Yeah, when I get around to updating this again, I'm probably gonna make it one-handed but nerf it's value a bit.

warm haven May 10, 2026, 7:28 PM

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i think it's okay as a two-hander

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the idea behind "two handers" is moreso "this is unpocketable" and less "you need to hold it with both hands"

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and i feel like it makes sense that you can't really sensibly stow a lava lamp on your person

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it is small enough that it would also be okay as a one-hander

hot cave May 10, 2026, 7:34 PM

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I had increased it's size while developing it because originally it was smaller.

naive ridge May 11, 2026, 7:54 PM

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Is there a mod where I can make mod items client side or something

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Where they like appear as some other vanilla item to someone else who doesn't have the mod

warm haven May 11, 2026, 7:57 PM

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that is not possible

ebon wind May 11, 2026, 8:04 PM

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naive ridge Where they like appear as some other vanilla item to someone else who doesn't ha...

kinda, with item variants

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like what cruiseradditions does with the toy car replacing a v type engine

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or minecraftscraps iirc also replaces the model of vanilla items

naive ridge May 11, 2026, 8:04 PM

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I mean something that could work with this

ebon wind May 11, 2026, 8:05 PM

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oh you mean like converting an existing mod's items into vanilla variants

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yea no i dont think so

naive ridge May 11, 2026, 8:05 PM

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Damn

ivory quartz May 11, 2026, 10:15 PM

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I dont mean no harm in asking this but im genuinally curious why someone would want that

plush hearth May 11, 2026, 10:22 PM

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ivory quartz I dont mean no harm in asking this but im genuinally curious why someone would w...

To play in public lobbies without feeling bored of the same scrap I guess

ivory quartz May 11, 2026, 10:22 PM

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Ohhh that makes sense

shut ferry May 12, 2026, 6:45 PM

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Would I be able to change moon weights for the scrap through LLL or does it have to be through the mods own config?

shut ferry May 12, 2026, 7:02 PM

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shut ferry Would I be able to change moon weights for the scrap through LLL or does it have...

I checked, I can't do it through LLL oh wellll

naive ridge May 12, 2026, 7:47 PM

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plush hearth To play in public lobbies without feeling bored of the same scrap I guess

Yes

hot cave May 12, 2026, 9:24 PM

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shut ferry I checked, I can't do it through LLL oh wellll

You should use LunarConfig

shut ferry May 12, 2026, 10:02 PM

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hot cave You should use LunarConfig

basically identical to Gale mod managers built in config menu so I don't have to
Unless it's better to do it in-game for some reason

fervent oak May 12, 2026, 10:03 PM

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shut ferry basically identical to Gale mod managers built in config menu so I don't have to...

he said __Lunar__Config, not __Lethal__Config

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big difference between the two

shut ferry May 12, 2026, 10:03 PM

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fervent oak he said __Lunar__Config, not __Lethal__Config

My reading skills are unmatched

fervent oak May 12, 2026, 10:04 PM

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happens to the best of us

hot cave May 13, 2026, 12:08 AM

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squib

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||btw, shameless shill im doing right here but you guys should check my art thread for some of my cute art xdxdxd

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1319597759065489428 ||

vocal iris May 21, 2026, 8:03 PM

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hot cave May 21, 2026, 11:06 PM

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Woa

hot cave May 22, 2026, 12:21 AM

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I'm trying to make it so the light emits from the center of the lava lamp, but I'm having an issue with the light shining through the mesh

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How do I prevent it from shining through faces?

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I have a flat face inside the lava part of the mesh

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but it still shines through it

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nvm I found it

hot cave May 22, 2026, 3:28 AM

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Heya, if anyone remembers the old Black Label modpack I tried making, the core mod for that also added a "Golden Bolt" but I didn't add it into the scrap pack because there's already another mod that adds golden scrap and what not.

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However, would you guys want me anyway to add it to this mod?

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warm haven May 22, 2026, 4:46 AM

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i have no strong opinion on it

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just being real

hot cave May 22, 2026, 6:14 AM

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The diamond is sorta meant to be the replacement for it strangely.

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Originally, the golden bolt was a spawn I put on Titan.

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and Embrion lol

fervent oak May 22, 2026, 8:35 AM

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imma be honest just keep the diamond vro 🙏

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(jokes aside it be way more original having a Diamond rather than a Golden Bolt as an item to find on Titan)

hot cave May 22, 2026, 3:39 PM

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fervent oak (jokes aside it be way more original having a Diamond rather than a Golden Bolt ...

Oh I agree 100%

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I'm just contemplating adding it because it was in the Black Label mod originally

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If anything, this would most likely get added to Embrion only if I am to add it with spawn rates

hot cave May 22, 2026, 5:53 PM

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Actually, I've hard decided on not including it since it really isn't like that special anyway

hot cave May 22, 2026, 5:53 PM

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hot cave

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Worst comes to worst, if people want it still, I can always release it separately lol

weary niche May 22, 2026, 6:12 PM

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terra's golden bolt

hot cave May 24, 2026, 3:58 AM

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Version 81.3.0

Adjusted Lava lamp.
- It is now a one-handed scrap.
- It's value has been decreased from 72-100 to 70-90.
- It's default spawn rate has been decreased on some moons.
- Adjusted it's light so that it emits from the lava.
- It's a little smaller.
Adjusted the visuals of the Bonsai tree, Frying pan, Toaster (Green), and Wine bottle.
Adjusted the default spawn rates of some of the scrap.
Added "clink" audios to the Toaster and Fan.
Added a pickup sound to the Egg timer and Lava lamp.
Added empty audio tracks to items that do not have pickup sounds so that they can be modified to have them via loaforcsSoundAPI.
- The empty audio track is called "EmptyPickup".
Added 2 new scrap!
- Check the wiki for more details (and spoilers!)

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Terraformer9x/TerrasScrap/

Thunderstore

TerrasScrap v81.3.0

A collection of vanilla styled scrap!

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@ebon wind You can now modify the pickup sounds of my items that don't have any.

ebon wind May 24, 2026, 4:00 AM

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:O omg thank you this is awesome

hot cave May 24, 2026, 4:01 AM

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It's only 3 items that lack pickup sounds now, being the body pillow, fuzzy dice, and light bulb

ebon wind May 24, 2026, 4:02 AM

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~~does that mean those 3 don't have the emptypickup thing?~~ nvm i see what u mean

warm haven May 24, 2026, 4:02 AM

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no sloshing sound for coffee creamer? 🙁

hot cave May 24, 2026, 4:03 AM

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I didn't look for any sounds for it, the jug ones don't really fit it either

warm haven May 24, 2026, 4:04 AM

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i see

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that's unfortunate

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i think itd be really cool

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alas. everything else sounds very exciting

hot cave May 24, 2026, 4:04 AM

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Oh god do I open up SoundIdeas again and go diving

warm haven May 24, 2026, 4:06 AM

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have you tried pitching the chemical jug sounds

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i feel like they are kinda deep but could work if it was just a bit higher pitch

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otherwise idk, maybe there is a Sloshy Liquid library sound out there

hot cave May 24, 2026, 4:07 AM

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The jug has sort of a metal drum sound to it.

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I don't think pitching will help much.

warm haven May 24, 2026, 4:09 AM

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maybe

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i suppose it has been a while since i heard them isolated

hot cave May 24, 2026, 4:10 AM

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I did find some potentially suitable sounds though

hot cave May 24, 2026, 4:38 AM

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@warm haven how is this

warm haven May 24, 2026, 4:46 AM

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sounds a bit aggressive when you're not sprinting

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but i know you can't do separate sounds for sprinting/walking

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maybe could just do with a volume tweak

hot cave May 24, 2026, 4:55 AM

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warm haven May 24, 2026, 5:26 AM

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hot cave

ya personally i think this is pretty good 🙂

ebon wind May 24, 2026, 5:36 AM

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lol that's fun, i like this sound

hot cave May 24, 2026, 5:36 AM

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Version 81.3.1

Added "clink" audios to the Coffee creamer.

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Terraformer9x/TerrasScrap/

Thunderstore

TerrasScrap v81.3.1

A collection of vanilla styled scrap!

ebon wind May 24, 2026, 5:37 AM

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oh that's what you meant by clink

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i thought clink was referring to something else

hot cave May 24, 2026, 5:37 AM

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That's what the game calls it internally

ebon wind May 24, 2026, 5:37 AM

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interesting

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makes sense though

hot cave May 24, 2026, 5:38 AM

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I believe it's called "clink" because of the bottles.

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Which makes me think that was the first scrap he added "clink" sounds for.

ebon wind May 24, 2026, 5:39 AM

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that sounds about right

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just makes me wish it was consistently named

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because it being called "jiggling" for the bell and cash register audios is just. kinda odd

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i would think you could also describe the clapper of a bell or coins in a drawer as "clinking" with the other parts of each object

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but zeeker is a silly goose

hot cave May 24, 2026, 5:40 AM

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Don't worry, when Lethal goes open source and we fix it up, we will make it consistent.

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/j

ebon wind May 24, 2026, 5:40 AM

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heheh wonder when that'll be

hot cave May 25, 2026, 5:53 AM

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Version 81.3.2

THE FAN NOW SPINS!
- Oh yeah, it's model is a little updated too.

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Terraformer9x/TerrasScrap/

Thunderstore

TerrasScrap v81.3.2

A collection of vanilla styled scrap!

hot cave May 25, 2026, 4:42 PM

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Btw idk if 2-handers can be recharged so I apologize to any fan owners whos fans die

warm haven May 25, 2026, 4:43 PM

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you can't interact with the charger coil while holding 2-handed items

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i have tried making jetpacks two-handers before and it did not work out

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lol

hot cave May 25, 2026, 4:44 PM

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Ok yeah I thought it wasn't possible

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I made fan's life time 8 minutes so I hope that's plenty of fan

gaunt rose May 25, 2026, 10:45 PM

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yeah that should be enough I feel

hot cave May 26, 2026, 9:41 AM

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gonna make a small update to one of the newer scrap

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Dammit, I just got an idea now

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What if there was like a bunch of stupid different plaques it could have

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Do you guys wanna make help contribute plaque messages lol

warm wyvern May 26, 2026, 10:11 AM

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make this bronze or something with a plague saying award for most lazy/useless employee

hot cave May 26, 2026, 10:34 AM

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It's already bronze

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In fact you can only find bronze lol

fervent oak May 26, 2026, 10:36 AM

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hot cave Do you guys wanna make help contribute plaque messages lol

freeloading award
draft dodger award
tax avoider award

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stuff like that

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would fit in with the game's lore sorta with how ironic it is

gaunt rose May 26, 2026, 2:00 PM

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hot cave In fact you can only find bronze lol

this is good cuz there's another trophy in another mod but it's more golden

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I like the #variety

gaunt rose May 26, 2026, 2:02 PM

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fervent oak freeloading award draft dodger award tax avoider award

dirtiest bathroom 1985

fervent oak May 26, 2026, 2:03 PM

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most gibsonest gibson of 1968

ebon wind May 26, 2026, 5:30 PM

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cleanest fridge award

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this would open the possibilities of roleplay such as putting the trophy on/inside the ship's refrigerator while it's either empty or filled with human body parts

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thank you for coming to my ted talk

hot cave May 26, 2026, 11:34 PM

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public variables get saved to save data right?

hot cave May 28, 2026, 9:43 PM

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image that may or may not be relevant

digital kite May 30, 2026, 3:07 AM

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hot cave image that may or may not be relevant

cityscape interior and rideable scateboard in the next terrascrap update 🔥

hot cave May 30, 2026, 3:08 AM

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They call this moon Manhattan, they say there's a lot of THUGs there.

gaunt rose May 30, 2026, 3:09 AM

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there should be a fucking skateboard in this game why hasn't anyone done this yet

hot cave May 30, 2026, 3:44 AM

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Would a skateboard be one-handed or two-handed

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I'd imagine two-handed but with Tony Hawk Underground logic part of me for some reason thinks it could work as a one-hander

gaunt rose May 30, 2026, 3:51 AM

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hot cave Would a skateboard be one-handed or two-handed

2 handed imo

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but maybe you could say the employee can tuck it inbetween their oxygen tanks and their straps

prime rapids May 30, 2026, 3:54 AM

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hot cave I'd imagine two-handed but with Tony Hawk Underground logic part of me for some ...

Yes, I am baboon hawk

ebon wind Jun 1, 2026, 11:56 PM

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The back of the frying pan look funkyyy

warm haven Jun 1, 2026, 11:57 PM

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we also encountered a bug with egg timer showing "Drop egg timer" on everybody's screen (seems like it's missing an owner check to handle tooltips)

hot cave Jun 2, 2026, 12:02 AM

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I'll look into it

hot cave Jun 2, 2026, 12:02 AM

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ebon wind The back of the frying pan look funkyyy

also holy moly wtf

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Somehow, the frying pan's materials got jumbled

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Well I got a few things to add anyway so those are definitely gonna get fixed

hot cave Jun 2, 2026, 12:59 AM

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Version 81.3.3

Added a plaque to the Bronze trophy.
- Message varies from trophy to trophy!
Lava lamp colors now persist in saves.
Fixed Frying pan having messed up materials.
Fixed Egg timer displaying hud messages for everyone.
Added 1 new scrap!
- Check the wiki for more details (and spoilers!)

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Terraformer9x/TerrasScrap/

Thunderstore

TerrasScrap v81.3.3

A collection of vanilla styled scrap!

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I need to come up with better presentation for my mod lol

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I'm still using the old image from way back on the mod page lol

warm wyvern Jun 2, 2026, 11:13 AM

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could you make the frying pan a weapon?

hot cave Jun 2, 2026, 12:00 PM

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I had planned to originally

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The issue is that I don't wanna just settle with making it another shovel, I'd want to make something a bit high effort and so I would want custom animations for it

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The problem is that getting the player to do custom animations is not simple at all and is prone to causing conflicts

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Unless there's a commonly used library for adding animations, it's a no go.

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Plus if I make it a weapon, it's definitely gonna be made rarer to compensate.

warm wyvern Jun 2, 2026, 12:27 PM

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oki stare

fervent oak Jun 2, 2026, 12:40 PM

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hot cave The issue is that I don't wanna just settle with making it another shovel, I'd w...

make it a knife item like i did mine then

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only issue would be that it would one tap butlers

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unless i make a custom script for knives that allow you to make custom knife items that can't pop butlers

hot cave Jun 2, 2026, 12:41 PM

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I don't want it to be like a knife though, I was thinking of having it be a shorter range shovel

errant sapphire Jun 2, 2026, 1:06 PM

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hot cave The problem is that getting the player to do custom animations is not simple at ...

the main conflicts would be from mods like BetterEmotes that constantly override the animator every frame, or from mods that wrecklessly handle animation replacement

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neither of which is really within your control

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anyways you only really have "two ways" to go about this

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one. use unities override controller, which is the "correct" way if you just want to replace an animation

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two. replace the animator, this is better if you want to expand upon the current animations if simply replacing isn't enough, this is not considered the "correct" way, but there is no other way to expand upon the existing animations in an animator

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the way i've handled it for my vehicles is simple:

clone the players current animator and save it to a global reference, and save all the local players variables/states
apply the new animator

upon exit, replace the players animator with the cached one, and if it doesn't exist for WHATEVER reason, use the vanilla games reference to the default animator in StartOfRound, then apply all the saved variables/states

errant sapphire Jun 2, 2026, 1:11 PM

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errant sapphire the way i've handled it for my vehicles is simple: clone the players current an...

this has turned out to be pretty stable and i haven't really had "many issues" aside from the aforementioned, which are completely out of my control

hot cave Jun 2, 2026, 1:12 PM

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errant sapphire one. use unities override controller, which is the "correct" way if you just wan...

I was thinking of going the override method, since I can just reference it via a custom grabbableobject script

errant sapphire Jun 2, 2026, 1:12 PM

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for just simply replacing an animation yes, this is probably the most appropriate way to go about it 🙂

hot cave Jun 2, 2026, 1:12 PM

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The thing is though, doesn't that still cause conflicts with more emotes?

errant sapphire Jun 2, 2026, 1:12 PM

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more emotes is basically better emotes but outdated

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and it's not within your control

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the issue is ME/BE replace the animator every frame if it doesn't match

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there's nothing you can do about it

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on your end

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it completely nukes my vehicles animations because it instantly replaces the animator with the wrong one

hot cave Jun 2, 2026, 1:13 PM

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Damn..

errant sapphire Jun 2, 2026, 1:13 PM

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i just don't worry about it because there's nothing i can do about it

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mods that use EmoteAPI should be fine

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because it uses a completely different way of playing animations

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and doesn't really touch the animator at all infact

hot cave Jun 2, 2026, 1:14 PM

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Yeah I was thinking the object could apply and remove the override on equip/discard/pocket

errant sapphire Jun 2, 2026, 1:15 PM

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though this reminds me, i have not actually tested to see how overriding and then replacing work with each other

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what i mean by this is say an item has an override animation, but then you sit in a vehicle that replaces the animator

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maybe i have to add a case to handle overrides seperately

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upon exit

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or maybe my setup already works with it

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i unno

hot cave Jun 2, 2026, 1:17 PM

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The jank method I have in mind is keeping the original animator and applying it if the item unequips

fervent oak Jun 2, 2026, 1:17 PM

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errant sapphire the main conflicts would be from mods like BetterEmotes that constantly override...

me when i make a mod that recklessly changes something of the game that anybody could just change at any time

errant sapphire Jun 2, 2026, 1:18 PM

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fervent oak me when i make a mod that recklessly changes something of the game that anybody ...

this isn't something you can easily just change at will

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plink

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it's something BE has to fix on their end

fervent oak Jun 2, 2026, 1:18 PM

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if there were a good API for it then maybe people would do more custom anim

errant sapphire Jun 2, 2026, 1:18 PM

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it is replacing the animator every frame if it doesn't match its own

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which is a really bad way of doing it

errant sapphire Jun 2, 2026, 1:19 PM

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fervent oak if there were a good API for it then maybe people would do more custom anim

maybe 🙂

modern lichen Jun 2, 2026, 1:51 PM

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me and @merry atlas had talked about making one long ago
it honestly wouldn't even be a hard thing to do it's just a bit of a time sink

fervent oak Jun 2, 2026, 2:05 PM

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modern lichen me and <@402567749479432195> had talked about making one long ago it honestly wo...

it's been 2 (almost 3) years since the game released btw ✌️ 🥀

modern lichen Jun 2, 2026, 2:05 PM

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and look how far we've come 🥹

merry atlas Jun 2, 2026, 3:10 PM

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modern lichen me and <@402567749479432195> had talked about making one long ago it honestly wo...

i think we even had a good starting point for it. but then pivoted to other projects.

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i should still have the draft mod csproj somewhere on my drive

modern lichen Jun 2, 2026, 3:25 PM

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merry atlas i think we even had a good starting point for it. but then pivoted to other proj...

if we get back to it, i'd want to have it be using our own animator separate from vanilla, i've always wanted to add float parameters to control the speed of some animations rather than modifying the speed of the whole damn animator lol

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sucks that almost none of this can be done at runtime

merry atlas Jun 2, 2026, 3:26 PM

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you mean placing a second animator beside the vanilla one?

modern lichen Jun 2, 2026, 3:27 PM

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merry atlas you mean placing a second animator beside the vanilla one?

nah just replacing the vanilla one with an identical replica that has stuff like speed parameters for all the animationstateclips

merry atlas Jun 2, 2026, 3:27 PM

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or redoing all the vanilla clips and completly replacing the animator?

modern lichen Jun 2, 2026, 3:28 PM

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hmm i was gonna say something that involved creating a copy empty replica and filling it in at runtime to avoid rebundling every animationclip, but that wouldn't 100% work
we'd need to treat "null" as the original animationclip, which isn't that bad since we'd be handling everything already, but other mod creators that don't use the API wouldn't expect this
oh well not the place to talk about this anyway

hot cave Jun 3, 2026, 1:41 AM

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errant sapphire one. use unities override controller, which is the "correct" way if you just wan...

Heya, I was actually wondering

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how does an Animator Override Controller get applied actually?

errant sapphire Jun 3, 2026, 1:44 AM

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hot cave how does an Animator Override Controller get applied actually?

from Unity docs, like this 😄
you then have to match the string name of the animation you want to replace and then you can use a reference to the animation clip

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it's pretty simple

hot cave Jun 3, 2026, 1:45 AM

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Oh

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so I shouldn't create one in the unity project itself should I

errant sapphire Jun 3, 2026, 1:46 AM

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for an animator override probably not

hot cave Jun 3, 2026, 1:46 AM

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Ah I think I get it now

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Wait, because of how Unity works, am I able to store the original player animator controller?

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Because if I try to store in another variable, and then change it to the override, it gets changed in the stored variable as well.

errant sapphire Jun 3, 2026, 1:53 AM

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i can't fully remember everything to do with overrides but i'm pretty sure there was a simple way that allows you to return to just the original animator controller

hot cave Jun 3, 2026, 1:55 AM

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Hmm

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I would need to be able too since I only look to replace shovel animations but only when using the frying pan.

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