Skyboxes aside from the Amethyst one on Embrion do not want to work there
#RebalancedMoons + Atlas
crisp mango
unique wyvern
this is where you get one of the logs, no?
crisp mango
this is where you get one of the logs, no?
yup
dense hull
Oh
dense hull
Skyboxes aside from the Amethyst one on Embrion do not want to work there
@sinful jungle Apologies for the ping, but we're not sure if u saw this:
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Embrion ignores overrides, even when the Amethyst Skies toggle is off, and will auto-default to the vanilla skybox. It has attachment issues with the skybox it needs to resolve
Maybe something to do /w this?
Yeah, it does. This issue doesn't crop up in our server-side modpack (Which has LLL installed).
sand iris
Is there any new updates in the works right now? I'd love to play the rebalanced versions of the vanilla moons again
(unless somehow I missed a update or something)
tardy thunder
It currently works entirely with v73. Idk about new updates though
sand iris
Right, gotcha
sinful jungle
Is there any new updates in the works right now? I'd love to play the rebalanced...
nothing in active development atm bc zeekerss is reworking a moon again
so ill only be doing fixes and stuff
The sky is a little weird on adamance sometimes but other than that the mod should be perfectly fine on the latest version
crisp mango
The sky is a little weird on adamance sometimes but other than that the mod shou...
Fix my stairs
sinful jungle
yaya lol i will lmao
unique wyvern
!!
sinful jungle
I'm gonna remove the ladder and add a clown cannon at the bottom that shoots you to the top (and the watchtower is also 3x as tall)
unique wyvern
can you also add teliot to the skybox of every moon
and my goat cavity fighter as a graffity on Artifice
unique wyvern
just spanish things šÆļø
crisp mango
just spanish things šÆļø
worst thing.
I'm translating an Elden Ring mod š
Sometimes I forget these tiny details
unique wyvern
uh oh LOL
if you have any questions or doubts when translating i'd be more than happy to help
snow kite
nothing in active development atm bc zeekerss is reworking a moon again
New patreon post?
unique wyvern
yes
crisp mango
if you have any questions or doubts when translating i'd be more than happy to h...
I'm good, but thanks!
dense hull
<@717509908479868999> Apologies for the ping, but we're not sure if u saw this:
Did you even see this, Dopadream?
dense hull
Uh
Atlas is still fucked, by the way.
Dunno if we were rude in our wording, if we were sorry, but an acknowledgement would be nice, even if it can't be fixed
sinful jungle
your issue is not high priority to me
atlas is intended to be used with LLL and a majority of my effort coding it was in the content tag support
dense hull
Ic
dense hull
soob
sinful jungle
boob
dense hull
Woke Rain World
sinful jungle
ill look at the code tmrw or something its prolly an easy fix
dense hull
Yea that'd be nice, Artifice is just butt ugly with its default ice moon skybox that it has in basegame
Even worse with Chameleon's saturation to the moon
proper grotto
Donāt know if itās been brought to your attention but v73 causes moons to have oily looking water.
Iām unsure how to fix it since I updated to the new unity version and apparently thereās a different way which doesnāt require that
Monty knows how to do it. Not willing to needlessly ping him in case that you already know this.
sinful jungle
i didnt change the water shader i use at all
its still the same one thats pinned here
proper grotto
That water shader is affected too from what Iāve seen
For example the water on RBM adamance is oily
shadow coyote
It looked perfectly fine to me when I tested it
Did you test on a rebuilt bundle with the new Unity version? I think thatās all people had to do to fix it
unique wyvern
i didnt change the water shader i use at all
I actually have a thread about this
#1433240431155613817
unique wyvern
Monty knows how to do it. Not willing to needlessly ping him in case that you al...
only thing I know is that you can either set your water to opaque, sacrificing your intended look, or update the project to the new unity version (NOT to v73, just to the unity version that it uses) and then rebuilding
sinful jungle
Did you test on a rebuilt bundle with the new Unity version? I think thatās all ...
yes
shadow coyote
Is that whatās uploaded? If not then the current public version of the moons may have the issue while your rebuilt one would be fine
sinful jungle
thats what the latest version is
sinful jungle
For example the water on RBM adamance is oily
For the record I made the water on adamance darker and more orange to match the skybox
I really hope you're not confusing that with this issue
lol
unique wyvern
I suppose thats the only easy to see water in RBM lol
but it'd have to be reaaaally fucking dark to be confused for that
like this is what the "black water" looks like
sinful jungle
ya that looks unnatural
proper grotto
like this is what the "black water" looks like
Thatās not the only way it can look
For example I use Dopaās water shader and it was still affected by the oily water, specifically being much more transparent but losing its texture and colouring
unique wyvern
For example I use Dopaās water shader and it was still affected by the oily wate...
that's up to the settings in the water
it can be much more transparent, less transparent or w/e, but the bottom line is that it's pretty much entirely textureless and lacks color
unique wyvern
Yk I just got on, I'll open up my dev env and check myself
fyi it only shows up like that in-game and not in the editor, in the editor it looks perfectly normal
proper grotto
Right makes sense
sinful jungle
yes i know
unique wyvern
I assume you know this already but just letting you know
sinful jungle
i never test in editor
unique wyvern
Minecraft
unique wyvern
i never test in editor
well I wasn't talking about that, neither do I lol
sinful jungle
when i said dev env i meant for testing
unique wyvern
was mostly saying that the water looks fine when you're looking at the map in unity (idk about in-editor testing or whatev)
unique wyvern
when i said dev env i meant for testing
spring depot
Yee I've just been busy with some other stuff
sinful jungle
cool cool
i fixed all the visual errors with the mod on my end including experimentation mesh errors so
i think ill wait 4 that
and then do like an update
sinful jungle
cool cool
i fixed all the visual errors with the mod on my end including experim...
oh except the pulsating sky thing
but w/e
spring depot
If you've got something you wanna push though you can just do it, but I can also reduce the scope of the PR so I can push it earlier lol
spring depot
Oh alrighty
spring depot
its all assetbundle stuff
Also you asked about the black water, it should be fixed by rebundling on the newer HDRP version, but if it's not I guess you can try this lol
It fixed it for snow and I'm pretty sure it's the same issue
sinful jungle
I just fixed it by rebundling yes
spring depot
Oh ye
sinful jungle
I think i pushed older bundles by accident
so oops
This actually also broke the heatwave effect on embrion too
i had to recompile the shader
its like glitchy in the current build
spring depot
Hmm weird
spring depot
I haven't seen any issues with the other LE weather effects, but ye
I can't exactly rebuild the bundles so I had to find something that'd fix it from outside lol
unique wyvern
Also you asked about the black water, it _should_ be fixed by rebundling on the ...
how does one do this for water in unity
spring depot
It's just changing that on the highest priority Visual Environment global volume profile you got
mental breach
Even worse with Chameleon's saturation to the moon
Chameleon causes Saturation to Artifice?
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unique wyvern
config option
spark jackal
does the volumetric fog feature only works on vanilla moons?
dense hull
Chameleon causes Saturation to Artifice?
Yes, thereās a config option for Artifice to make its colors pop more
and it looks dogshit with the vanilla ice moon skybox
sharp finch
that's not how that works
in vanilla every moon uses the exact same skybox
but artifice mistakenly (at least, I BELIEVE it's a mistake) uses the volume profile of the snowy moons
which makes the skybox appear foggier, and also affects the general atmosphere of everything else
sharp finch
but artifice mistakenly (at least, I BELIEVE it's a mistake) uses the volume pro...
personally i think zeekerss just forgot to change it when he decided to change artifice from being a snowy moon
but you can make an argument he left it that way because it makes artifice more gloomy
anyways, the setting in chameleon "fixes" that by making artifice use the same volume profile as every other non-snowy moon in the game
which removes any changes that apply to the skybox
and also makes it a small bit more colorful in general
there are comparison screenshots on the chameleon mod page
meanwhile, titan has the exact opposite issue, where zeekerss built titan using one of the non-snowy moons as a basis, and forgot to give it the snowy profile
here it's even more blatantly obvious because titan has such a visible horizon
but you can see that the skybox is the same
it's just that snowy moons apply a darkness effect over the image (more or less)
anyways
if you use the setting in chameleon
artifice literally can't use "the vanilla ice moons skybox" because such a thing doesn't exist
and because the volume profile (which the setting is changing) is what controls the skybox's appearance
there wouldn't be a discrepancy between the skybox and the other visuals
that being said, if you're in this thread, and using Atlas to alter the skyboxes of the moons
then yeah, ice moons probably will have different skyboxes
and im not 100% sure how dopadream handles artifice
but IIRC she just uses lethallevelloader tags and has no special behavior for artifice
so artifice probably uses whatever her "marsh" skybox is and wouldn't support dynamic switching when using artificeblizzard (which chameleon does support, just for clarity; FixArtificeVolume doesn't change away from the snowy profile during blizzards)
sharp finch
and im not 100% sure how dopadream handles artifice
ok by default she has artifice blacklisted so it would just default to whatever else you're using
meaning vanilla behavior (snowy profile and "snowy skybox" always), or chameleon's behavior if you use FixArtificeVolume (snowy profile if ArtificeBlizzard is installed and blizzard is active, or normal profile otherwise)
dense hull
which makes the skybox appear foggier, and also affects the general atmosphere o...
Yes that's what we mean
sharp finch
but if you use the chameleon setting, that doesnt happen
dense hull
Well I guess we haven't noticed until now that the default skybox is just bad for Art lol
sinful jungle
does the volumetric fog feature only works on vanilla moons?
No. if a custom moon has their volumetric fog set up correctly it'll increase the view distance for custom moons too
this may be an oversight
That being said
if you have lethal sponge the setting just does nothing
unless you configure some setting in it
The only reason I added it is because the spotlights on artifice look awkward without it, and I decided to just keep the change consistent across the board because it made other moons look a bit nicer, without impacting performance at all in my experience
but on lower end hardware it might be a bit more detrimental so i made it a setting
spark jackal
if you have lethal sponge the setting just does nothing
so with lethal sponge it doesnt work?
or is there a setting i can tweak
obtuse mortar
@sinful jungle hi so like, the heatwave effect you have on embrion i think, is that base game?
atleast i remember you had a heatwave effect somewhere on there
obtuse mortar
yes please
sinful jungle
okay
obtuse mortar
<3 ty goat
sinful jungle
can u poke paco with a stick btw
obtuse mortar
yeah i got him on speed dial, whats up?
well ig hes sleeping rn but he'll be up soon
mental breach
can u poke paco with a stick btw
I can also poke him later if you need lol
sinful jungle
i await his pull request for the next update (if it is not too much trouble ) bc iirc on top of the lever fix he wanted to do some networking changes and im a bit curious abt that
obtuse mortar
oh right that stuff
mental breach
Ooh, yeah I've been planning to bring back Rebalanced Moons but have been waiting for the update that's been being talking about lol
obtuse mortar
we just finished doing a bunch of shit in DawnLib but ill let him know about this stuff
sinful jungle
xu did you hear zeek plans on switching to unity terrain
im prolly gonna have to redo everything soon
obtuse mortar
xu did you hear zeek plans on switching to unity terrain
i sawww
mental breach
im prolly gonna have to redo everything soon
You were gonna have to redo Adamance and March anyways unfortunately lol
sinful jungle
and vow
obtuse mortar
im considering looking a bit more into unity terrain, cuz he's been praising it quite a bit
but i've always been a mesh only believer
unique wyvern
xu did you hear zeek plans on switching to unity terrain
that's kinda yummy
I hated terrameshing lowkey
sinful jungle
ya game is using a new shader for it
unique wyvern
spongey, no?
mental breach
It's gonna be using the Sponge shader
Directly implemented
I'm still so happy for Scoops honestly
unique wyvern
but i've always been a mesh only believer
Me too but only for the visual side
I'm not aware of what else unity terrain has over mesh
mental breach
I hated terrameshing lowkey
Yeah this is why I only recommended it for moons that had sorta flat visuals in the past tbh
unique wyvern
though I know it'll allow for nicer detail without compromising filesize that much
obtuse mortar
apparently unity terrains have a good way to do foliage that's better than base game's impl (what zeekerss said) which is why he is excited to get back to unity terrain
unique wyvern
I remember I tried keeping the same amount of detail on Dreg with a mesh terrain and it was so fat.... I might've been doing smth wrong but I don't knowe
obtuse mortar
mesh terrains you definitely have a lot more control over, especially in terms of verts and tris, usually unity terrains are the ones that are less performant
mental breach
apparently unity terrains have a good way to do foliage that's better than base ...
Yeah makes sense, I imagine not all the moons will be updated to use it but I was wondering about Adamance since he added all the foliage if he might have changed the terrain cus it did look different
then I only recently heard about March also receiving changes, had no idea Vow also was til today lmao
obtuse mortar
yeah cuz its patreon shit, people not there arent really meant to know
mental breach
Ye
sinful jungle
the patreon isnt rlly meant to hide exclusive info its just meant to give deeper insight into development for those who care abt that
hes said before he doesn't really need the money and doesn't care
unique wyvern
fucking awesome....then I can leak that Ogopogo is being added to basegame
I'm deleting Biodiversity guys, it's over!!!
mental breach
He prolly still has a ton of money from back when the Fortnite collab happened tbh
unique wyvern
Everything from my mod is being added there
obtuse mortar
its okay biodiversity doesnt have a thread anyway
unique wyvern
I couldn't be more thankful to zeekerss for giving me all of his patreon money in exchange for my ideas documents and my entire modding team
unique wyvern
He prolly still has a ton of money from back when the Fortnite collab happened t...
are we forgetting lethal outsold cod back then?
dude is prolly loaaaded like crazy, I'm happy for him
unique wyvern
are we forgetting lethal outsold cod back then?
or wait was it some other game I forgot
mental breach
are we forgetting lethal outsold cod back then?
I mean it's still one of if not the biggest indie game to release in recent years, even though the game has fallen off a lot in terms of being streamed it's such a good game
unique wyvern
Yah
mental breach
I like REPO and Peak as well, but I feel like it's harder to get groups for those. People I find typically only enjoy REPO and PEAK when they update then they kinda don't wanna play them again for a while
unique wyvern
I have a few groups that play those over LC
mental breach
REPO just suffers during it's late game I find, PEAK is much more replayable
mental breach
I have a few groups that play those over LC
Ye, I do as well lol
unique wyvern
its okay biodiversity doesnt have a thread anyway
this is true that's because it's too mid
spring depot
can u poke paco with a stick btw
I'll get around to it soonā¢, I just be doin a few other things š
Lol
dense hull
I was gonna say why doesn't Assurance and Offense get redesigns but then we realized Offense orbits Assurance, so
Though the moons could still benefit with plants like cacti lol
vital tree
I get massive lag spikes when loading moons after downloading this mod (moons like vow or dine take 20-30 seconds to load). Loading Vow even crashed my game one time. By Loading I mean when you pull the ship lever and get the "seed" popup and such before landing.
I don't recall seeing anything of note in the console.
Are there any mod conflicts that could be causing this? I had ButteryRebalance prior to adding this mod.
tardy thunder
ButteryRebalance is a dependency of RebalancedMoons but idk if it is a hard or soft dependency. I doubt removing it caused the crashing.
As for longer loading times, it has always taken longer than vanilla for me but idk why exactly that is.
I think the most important factor here are the other mods in your profile. Do you mind sharing your mod profile code? Maybe others (or if nobody else did until I can) can help you then
vital tree
it was fine before rebalanced moons but it also may be caused by something else like YesFox
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exotic badge
would it change anything if i removed experimentation and artifice from the blacklist inside the mods config or are these moons blacklisted due to issues?
sinful jungle
I get massive lag spikes when loading moons after downloading this mod (moons li...
Idk. When i played on a modpack of 200+ with loadstone i never even had loading times with this mod
I can't really say for certain and I don't know of any conflicts off the top of my head
vital tree
could have been another mod and i just didnt notice it until i added this one
sinful jungle
Do you play on an SSD?
vital tree
yea
sinful jungle
idk thats weird
im pretty sure the lag you're getting is LLL unloading the previous scene and hotloading the new one
but idk why its doing that for you
Oh wait you said when you pull the lever right? not when routing to the moon
that should mean its already loaded
im not rlly sure then
sinful jungle
ButteryRebalance is a dependency of RebalancedMoons but idk if it is a hard or s...
Its a soft dependency btw
You dont really need it but like its intended for the full experience
Same for the fox, if you want you can just disable the fox
I will say atm ive kinda haulted development because when v80 comes out I'll likely have to remake all of the scenes : (
tardy thunder
I will say atm ive kinda haulted development because when v80 comes out I'll lik...
Understandable, ngl, though I doubt that all scenes would be affected (unless I missed hints at map reworks)
spark heath
Understandable, ngl, though I doubt that all scenes would be affected (unless I ...
forest maps are getting changes/foliage touchup
march is getting a rework
so basically as far as we know, adamance, vow and march are getting updated
tardy thunder
Ah, okay, that is a rather significant amount of moons then
spark heath
i am excited for march's rework
i kind of liked it before, but it didn't feel too much different from any of the other forest moons, and its absurd interior size made it a pretty horrible moon to play on
it becoming a swamp type moon will be interesting
i hope it becomes a more viable and interesting moon to visit
tardy thunder
it becoming a swamp type moon will be interesting
OOH!
That does sound like a great change
I always saw it in that territory tbh. so that makes 100% sense
coarse spear
Is it intended that Experimentation Stormy not have any raindrops? Or is a mod conflict?
sinful jungle
Understandable, ngl, though I doubt that all scenes would be affected (unless I ...
hes switching to unity terrain for his scenes
so likely every scene will be updated
sinful jungle
Is it intended that Experimentation Stormy not have any raindrops? Or is a mod c...
not normal but idk what's causing this ill look later
coarse spear
flooded has raindrops
sinful jungle
oh weird
i don't think this is my fault then?
idk
my immediate assumption was the hidden radar stuff in the sky but ig not
cuz it would affect flooded as well
tardy thunder
so likely every scene will be updated
Oh, okay, then I totally get that
coarse spear
i don't think this is my fault then?
nope, the default scene is the same thing
its LLL, I turned off only rebalancedmoons and nothing changed, but turning off LLL start work again
obtuse mortar
@spring depot what'd you do :p
obtuse mortar
its LLL, I turned off only rebalancedmoons and nothing changed, but turning off ...
Try reverting LLL a couple updates, or maybe using LLLU without LLL
tawdry peak
I hope now that dark place is done hes got some interest in Finishing lethal
Totally understand waiting to mod though
spring depot
<@161039146008182784> what'd you do :p
It be already fixed I just forgor a thing for stormy rain specifically
spring depot
its LLL, I turned off only rebalancedmoons and nothing changed, but turning off ...
Pushed hotfix for it 
crude valley
I will say atm ive kinda haulted development because when v80 comes out I'll lik...
What makes you say that?
sinful jungle
What makes you say that?
hes swapping to unity terrain
no?
for the new shader
he said that
anyways at the bare minimum i'd have to remake the forest moons even if that werent the case
crude valley
Heās swapping but I donāt think itās necessary, LethalSponge works on mesh moons no?
bright tiger
I'm struggling to figure out how to get to the offense fire exit with the offense fire exit path on š
sinful jungle
I'm struggling to figure out how to get to the offense fire exit with the offens...
lol
ill get the video
hold on
bright tiger
ill get the video
thank you š
crude valley
He was using Mesh2Terrain to get his shader working + avoid the non instanced cpu overload issue iirc, heās going back to terrain cuz he can.
Plus wonāt most people be running Voxxās Weather stuff that will turn it into a mesh anyway
sinful jungle
thank you š
this is an old version of the mod but same path
it starts at the new silo that wasnt there in vanilla
sinful jungle
He was using Mesh2Terrain to get his shader working + avoid the non instanced cp...
Oh I see
I guess I'll just have to remake the 3 green moons then :P
err maybe artifice too
idk if he touching that
coarse spear
Does your Titan have the same issue with the vain shrouds as the vanilla one? Spawn on the stairs
sinful jungle
no
coarse spear
so fast
sinful jungle
i was dming someone and saw the notification lol
but yea no every level has vain shroud denial points that i coded
cannot grow in stupid spots
bridges, roofs, etc
vague saffron
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1265153019792855050/1309520775069438012/r...
its not vanilla sounds ?
spark heath
its not vanilla sounds ?
that's LethalResonance
vague saffron
that's LethalResonance
im not remember resonance have his kind of outside ambiance sounds
spark heath
i don't know about the ambient noise, but i know the other sounds (i.e footsteps) are resonance
it could be some custom ambient noise, either that or it uses vanilla noise that resonance is replacing
sinful jungle
im not remember resonance have his kind of outside ambiance sounds
its a really old video
it might be outdated sounds or something
exotic badge
im not remember resonance have his kind of outside ambiance sounds
sounded like this mod: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/paradoxum/AmbientPackMusicFork/
vague saffron
yea maybe it's just resonance since it does seem to have its own ambience
maybe
for the wind sound
unique wyvern
real LCMD activities out here, you love to see it
snow kite
Needless solutions to simple problems, the Lethal Company way
sinful jungle
Does your Titan have the same issue with the vain shrouds as the vanilla one? Sp...
ooh i apologize
i should have mentioned this before
titan is actually one of the two moons where the fox cannot spawn
other being embrion
coarse spear
Snowy weeds works with artifice blizzard?
sinful jungle
yes
brave lotus
hello is atlass still good?
snow kite
Works as advertised for me
proper grotto
It didn't work
Thatās up to the moon dev to fix
Oh nvm itās artifice blizzard
coarse spear
sinful jungle
oh damn sorry well it worked before
LMAO
why did i see frieza for a split second
coarse spear
coarse spear
snowy dropship is working
sinful jungle
maybe she updated the check or something
and i need to rebase
i know it worked before tho
high haven
ohhhh dopa
high haven
i forgot to ask did you play tf2 classified?
high haven
oop
sinful jungle
ive had the steam version for a few months already
high haven
i tried it out a few days ago it seems really fun
high haven
oh yeah looks nice
i gotta play more
had a lot of fun with medic with that aoe medigun
high haven
ive only played VIP and domination so far i'll have to try arena
sinful jungle
i was forced into a few arena matches cuz its like the classic map rotation stuff
but i had a lot of fun lol
arena is a lot more fun in tf2c bc players drop little health vials on death
coarse spear
It's spawning dine exclusive scrap in Embrion
sinful jungle
yeah thats gonna happen
its literally random what scrap spawns
it just has to be one handed
and not a weapon
coarse spear
Ah
sinful jungle
should i remove bodyparts?
coarse spear
Yes
sinful jungle
basically how embrion works in my mod is like
it removes the item spawn pools
and just makes it 100% everything
so its completely random
its very funny lol
coarse spear
Ah thats why lol
sinful jungle
it stemmed from a convo in this channel a while back
coarse spear
Do you know if LLL overrides butterybalance interior chances?
sinful jungle
like the config overrides?
probably
if u manually change the interiors in the config with LLL then probably yes
otherwise no probably
coarse spear
I change the interiors in the config but Titan most of times was facility even if mineshaft was like 60%
Probably I was unlucky
dense hull
@sinful jungle There's something wrong with RebalancedMoons now. As of the latest LLL version, the mod's replacment scenes are not loading
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spring depot
<@717509908479868999> There's something wrong with RebalancedMoons now. As of th...
Should downgrade LLL for now, there be a couple things I'm fixin
dense hull
Should downgrade LLL for now, there be a couple things I'm fixin <:plink:1308332...
Oh
dies
Okay
spring depot
I did change some scene selection stuff so I gotta double check it be workin with RebalancedMoons
spring depot
spring depot
I did change some scene selection stuff so I gotta double check it be workin wit...
I forgor to double check this but it prooooooobably works
spring depot
<@717509908479868999> There's something wrong with RebalancedMoons now. As of th...
Latest LLL should be fine now though
sharp finch
what happened lol did nt we prevent this..
sorry i totally forgot to respond to this when i first looked at it
sharp finch
i had a hypothesis for what might be wrong but i have not been able to figure it out fucking with things for the past like 15 minutes
oh no wait
actually i was right i think
let me just undelete the message i just deleted
it looks like the problem is here
i believe the null check is the issue:
GameObject.Find("/Systems/Audio/BlizzardAmbience") == null
right now this line says "this current level is snowy" IF:
- snowy footprints are enabled
2a. the current level is any level other than artifice
2b. OR artifice blizzard isn't installed (meaning another mod enabled snowy footprints on artifice, nothing does this as far as i know)
2c. ORBlizzardAmbiencecan't be found with a gameobject search (meaning its disabled, meaning artifice blizzard didn't activate today)
for starters, the null check is backwards. if the search is successful, it would've meant artifice blizzard enabled the blizzard audio.
shadow coyote
i want to buy this
Make it a scrap and you can enjoy it for free!
sharp finch
the reason nobody has noticed this issue before now is because BlizzardAmbience is always enabled on your custom scene, whereas it's disabled by default (without artifice blizzard's intervention) in the vanilla scene
so the backwards null check actually prevents it from spawning snowy weeds 100% of the time
which is "incorrect but probably more preferable to the alternative"
TL;DR: disable the gameobject named BlizzardAmbience in your scene, and snowyweeds will need to be updated just to flip the check to GameObject.Find("/Systems/Audio/BlizzardAmbience") != null
lavish jolt
any chance hte mod will be fixed
sinful jungle
any chance hte mod will be fixed
wdym
im still waiting for v80 to update to publish anything, but none of my mods should be broken
pallid tide
im still waiting for v80 to update to publish anything, but none of my mods shou...
@charred turret told me hotreload wasn't necessary anymore is that true
sinful jungle
no
sinful jungle
<@381651321704677379> told me hotreload wasn't necessary anymore is that true
you still need it
im still waiting for a pr from pacoito
spring depot
im still waiting for a pr from pacoito
I'll get to iiiiiit I'm just stretched rather thin
Lol
sinful jungle
no rush im preoccupied lol
proper grotto
Didn't notice this until now lol
this is on vanilla as well
theres a lot of random assets out of bounds in vanilla
like this on march, 2000 meters out of the map
charred turret
like this on march, 2000 meters out of the map
this isnt exactly the same thing
zeekerss almost definitely left this as an easter egg
the rend dam is either a misplaced asset or a forgotten asset
proper grotto
zeekerss almost definitely left this as an easter egg
definitely, since the dam is on quite a few maps
and theres others which are misplaced
but it doesnt really matter too much since theyre still just funny out of bounds objects
even if one is intentional
sinful jungle
I don't think the dam on rend was misplaced personally it doesn't match the coordinates of any other levels iirc
charred turret
fun fact
this is one of the only actual easter eggs in the game
not talking about the item
theres only one other
which is kind of surprising
actually nvm theres two
the factory plastic box barcode
and the walkie talkie thing on gordion
dense hull
this is on vanilla as well
I know
We were the ones to suggest moving the Rend dam in-bounds inside the empty canal
wanton spoke
the factory plastic box barcode
and the walkie talkie thing on gordion
dont forget the cricket thingie in artifice
well not really out of bounds
dense hull
the factory plastic box barcode
and the walkie talkie thing on gordion
What about the barcode...?
proper grotto
https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HDZLop0aUAAQETn.gif
I remember this
I saw this when I went to London
Good times
signal dome
Anyone know of a mod very similar to RebalancedMoons, but with multiple randomized layout variations? I know a mod like this exists but I can't find it
wild brook
Anyone know of a mod very similar to RebalancedMoons, but with multiple randomiz...
MapImprovements?
signal dome
Oh yeah, that's the one :)
sinful jungle
im starting work on this again, so if anyone here has any feedback or suggestions they'd like to share before the v80 update, i'm all ears
@mental breach @sharp finch @dense hull @proper grotto get pinged goobers
(sorry)
dense hull
Just fix Atlas, really
Rebalanced Moons is fine on its own Imo, so I have no input there
sinful jungle
atlas will be fixed later
no gripes?
i will fix atlas dw about that
i just need to focus on the important stuff first
dense hull
no gripes?
Uh, I guess I two very minor ones
I personally don't like the gloominess of Experimentation's main entrance, so a config to revert it to vanilla's intensity would be nice, and Experimentation's main entrance is still incompatible /w the MapImprovements v4 Experimentation main entrance
Up to you whether to address these, though
sinful jungle
is mapimprovements even supported anymore
dense hull
SpookyBuddy is radio silent, so I don't have a clue to the mod's status
sinful jungle
anyways
dense hull
I assume it isn't anymore
sinful jungle
Uh, I guess I two *very* minor ones
I personally don't like the gloominess of Ex...
config isn't really necessary for that
if you want me to change it i can just change it
i don't really care
dense hull
This is your vision of Experimentation, everything is up to you
sinful jungle
experimentation is the one i care the least about TBH
because I think it's already pretty good
on its own
i dont have issues with it like i do with offense or dine
dense hull
I like how vanilla Experimentation before v80 mogged all of the moons aesthetically
sinful jungle
fr
dense hull
It was highest quality moon
dense hull
I like how vanilla Experimentation before v80 mogged all of the moons aesthetica...
Titan is second and Artifice is third personally
Artifice is brought down due to main entrance being a reused asset from Assurance
dense hull
It was highest quality moon
March now mogs every moon and it's not even close
God damn, that thing is sexy
Love wetlands
Anyways
Yeah that's it for me
dense hull
Vow is my second favorite
Leiopars and foxes are fun there
Btw did you see the vain shroud redesign yet
sinful jungle
No
dense hull
Would you like to see
sinful jungle
yh
dense hull
I didn't like it at first, but I warmed up to it. While it still looks prickly and sharp, it now looks more like the fox, and the fox's shaders now use the game's posterization, so now the entities are fully camouflaged with each other
It's really darn cool
dense hull
It still needs the uh
sinful jungle
i mean that is cool
dense hull
Spikes
dense hull
Yeah, it looks like a generic plant now
sinful jungle
its probably better though'
for gameplay
so im cool wth it
also why are you white
dense hull
It looks like the Grassy Plateaus from Subnautica lol
dense hull
also why are you white
Wdym
dense hull
for gameplay
Ya
sinful jungle
@stiff pewter can u give backwater gunkfish the modder role they did the concept art for the buildings in this
dense hull
Oh right I did that
Would you be interested in me redesigning the redesign of the Artifice and Embrion main entrances btw
I half assed the concept art honestly
It could be so much better
dense hull
Yeah that's fine
sinful jungle
if i fw it though i'll see what i can do
I'm actually considering deprecating the mod and making a new package because I want to rename it
I would like to include interior stuff
stiff pewter
?modder @dense hull
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sinful jungle
thanks girlie
stiff pewter
Bwaa
dense hull
Swag
dense hull
I would like to include interior stuff
Good news
Mineshaft isn't insufferable in v80 anymore
sinful jungle
O ya ik
dense hull
So you shouldn't have to tweak the fuck out of its balancing methinks
sinful jungle
but I still wanna do more
crude valley
I would like to include interior stuff
do some multi dungeon stuff. idk what i just wanna see someone use it lol
dense hull
Fairs
sinful jungle
do some multi dungeon stuff. idk what i just wanna see someone use it lol
you know it
gahhh i really wanna do the false mario 64 floors
for mansion
dense hull
do some multi dungeon stuff. idk what i just wanna see someone use it lol
You mean like, something like Tranquility's interior?
crude valley
v80 has updated dungen (on my request, blame me for interiors breaking)
that dungen has multi dungeon support
where seperate dungeonflows can attempt to generate off eachother
dense hull
So you could like, mix Factory and Manor together legitimately?
sinful jungle
fire exit generation still sucks btw
dense hull
fire exit generation still sucks btw
It will forever suck probably LOL
shadow coyote
So you could like, mix Factory and Manor together legitimately?
There was an interior with both facility and mansion once, right?
sharp finch
fairer fire exits is nice
dense hull
Btw does Fairer Fire Exits still work
sharp finch
idk if zv80 broke it
crude valley
So you could like, mix Factory and Manor together legitimately?
yes but it wouldn't be like blended up or anything, i think they would be treated as like two dungen archetypes if you know how dungen works
dense hull
idk if zv80 broke it
Is it compatible with pubs? I don't recall
sinful jungle
im assuming dungen plus is completely broken
shadow coyote
Oh noā¦ probably
crude valley
i don't think dungen made that many changes
it was just 1 small change that accidently fucked everything
maybe im wrong tho
sinful jungle
im assuming dungen plus is completely broken
i wanted to use this really bad
if i cannot in the end i will be sad
crude valley
raph is around it'll probably get updated
dense hull
@sinful jungle I forgot this bullshit existed https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/LC_Into_the_Darkness_Team/Blurance/
It's blue for an amazing reason
crude valley
four inch orange door hinge blurance
dense hull
Peak
sinful jungle
@spring depot i also wanted to ask you about the networking in this mod, you mentioned wanting to make changes to it i think, if you're unavailable maybe you could just give me some pointers on what u had in mind instead?
i feel a bit bad bothering you again lol i apologize
spring depot
a
spring depot
i feel a bit bad bothering you again lol i apologize
It's fine, just been busy with updating some other stuff lol
sinful jungle
did anything stick out to you that you'd like to mention ?
spring depot
I should look at what exactly I was doing lol
spring depot
Just mostly removing the need for LLLHotreloadPatch but there were a couple other improvements I remember seeing
spring depot
LLL and patcher (for the most part) should be fine on v80 now also
sinful jungle
now i need to see if batby was right
or if the witches will be completely fucked in my editor
crude valley
right about wha
dense hull
The plants for the Witches are unable to be decomplied correctly IIrc
and Zeekerss has not responded to Xu about just giving modders the files themselves yet
crude valley
he probably wont
dense hull
Unfortunately
sinful jungle
right about wha
i mentioned in the past that v80 will probably make it impossible for me to decompile the forest maps
you said it would not
i find that unlikely
but idk
dense hull
I don't see a reason why Zeekerss would gatekeep it tbh
crude valley
convenience
dense hull
Is it time-consuming..?
crude valley
where to upload
do i always upload changes to it?
do i always upload all shaders?
etc.
dense hull
Fair
sinful jungle
im prolly gonna have to drop support for LLL then
dense hull
How would you implement your changes, then?
sinful jungle
runtime
dense hull
The same way Map Improvements does?
sinful jungle
yes
dense hull
Ah
sinful jungle
not really sure what my other options are
dense hull
You still don't have access to plants, right? You'd have to tiptoe around not messing with the Witches' terrain much ?
dense hull
O
proper grotto
im starting work on this again, so if anyone here has any feedback or suggestion...
RebalancedMoons is pretty good as is. Besides water being fixed from v73 theres not much else.
spring depot
I know like windy grass is one
spring depot
Like water
You would only have to deal with stuff being magenta in Editor though, unless a placeholder one gets made too (like water)
obtuse mortar
i know the paid assetripper has like an experimental thing for ripping shaders, probably definitely not ethical or legal to share that, but i've always been interested, im on the side of doubt on whether it works though
spring depot
i know the paid assetripper has like an experimental thing for ripping shaders, ...
It a bit gullible
obtuse mortar
i know the paid assetripper has like an experimental thing for ripping shaders, ...
but i do be curious enough to try it, no idea how expensive that stuff is though
sinful jungle
i would pay for that
crude valley
ethically and legally it's fine honestly
obtuse mortar
i would pay for that
i just dont know if its really effective
crude valley
it's not like zeekerss is choosing to redact the files
obtuse mortar
thats true
spring depot
It a bit gullible
I got my hands on an older paid version (had to change my computer date to like August 2025 or somethin to use it) and tried it with LethalElements shaders, which I wasn't really expecting would work too well regardless
obtuse mortar
assetripper's is Ā£8 a month, but before that i would more likely ask others tbh
i dont have the money or time to be checking any of this, but i think if i had it i could run the project patcher with the asset ripper and test
sinful jungle
i see
crisp mango
atlas will be fixed later
Experimentation, the ladders
sinful jungle
oh yes thank you
cant remember how to make the sky not black
its been a while
am i tweaking what happened to this
wtf
shadow coyote
oh. I feel like there was something I had to do to see the toolbar
can't remember what
sinful jungle
setting layout to default fixed it
never seen that before weird
weird as shit
yeahh idk im not really too sure what to do right now this isn't looking too good
im prolly not gonna be able to edit the scenes directly anymore
obtuse mortar
i wonder if its being weird because its unity terrain instead of mesh now
i also wonder if putting the shader we have in editor would fix these issues? unsure
dense hull
Why do you have evil Assurance
sinful jungle
i really have no idea what direction i should go in
maybe i should just wait
and people will figure things out
obtuse mortar
i sincerely hope there gets something done for that but i dont know if there will be
sinful jungle
buttery tells me for her
trees and terrain looks normal
so idfk i guess im just a fat fucking chud
im using the right version and im using hdrp so idk IDK
obtuse mortar
That's weird, I heard from others this is how theirs looks like
I guess something did change
I'll talk to Zaggy about it
mental breach
Yeah prolly smth is missing
Hopefully not too hard to fix
Zeeks did change a lot with the game in V80
sinful jungle
im pretty sure she meant something changed with the patcher
because buttery has v80 scenes "working" apparently
albeit plantless
crude valley
albeit plantless
thats by design tbf
crude valley
they render in runtime yeah
crude valley
it's not related to terrain as a component
actually i don't know how it samples placements
but like
ye
it should
sinful jungle
it could just be a raycast from the sky lol
sinful jungle
how expensive is that actually
crude valley
ye
or atleast jobbed in a way that can thread them
been a minute since i touched this but look how fast š
sinful jungle
okay well i was under the impression that all the foliage would just be in the editor with pink textures
crude valley
thats terrain to mesh convert, 3x dungens and the heavy grass casts
sinful jungle
been a minute since i touched this but look how fast š
seeing all the foliage on the minimap generate is rlly satisfying
crude valley
shoutout normal sampling frl
snow kite
Dopadream rocking the evil pfp again
zenith dust
I would like to include interior stuff
that would be very cool
sinful jungle
this is so strange
i wonder why its like this
i fixed the vomit trees tho
it was diffusion stuff
its the normal scale of the terrain
its wrong
idk why
but its doing that
tawdry spruce
I'm actually considering deprecating the mod and making a new package because I ...
ooooh rebalanced interiors
new tiles for vanilla would be so cool
actually especially ones that can transition between two different ones
large minecart elevator that transitions between facility and mineshaft
crude valley
if only those entrance dungeon ids didn't get removed in some update
spring depot
this is so strange
Normal map on terrain being gullible is bein talked about here: #1199473521265475745 message
sinful jungle
okay i might be okay to keep using LLL
shadow coyote
okay well i was under the impression that all the foliage would just be in the e...
The stuff in editor is pink and likely would spawn in your moon as pink because someone in the dev-moons channel showed the script that spawns the grass and you need to give it a material. Unfortunately, we donāt have a good one.
A while ago I made a mod called WaterAssetRestorer to try to restore some of the water materials at runtime and I intend to try to expand on that with the grass. Canāt promise when though, but Iāll try to do it as soon as I can
shadow coyote
That would probably work too
spring depot
<@161039146008182784> i also wanted to ask you about the networking in this mod,...
Opened a PR for the scene thing (which I probably coulda just done months ago lol), but it ain't everythin I was looking into doing: https://github.com/dopadream/RebalancedMoonsPlugin/pull/10
I was doin some stuff for syncing config settings through a NetworkVariable, but didn't get around to finishin it
cinder jackal
signal dome
im starting work on this again, so if anyone here has any feedback or suggestion...
Suggestion for the March rework: ||the fire exit behindish the ship is close and easy to access on foot, but requires this narrow sloped spot up a cliff close to the ship (as far as I can tell). You could make that randomly just cliff instead, it'd be a perfect spot to deploy a ladder like old Dine. Any reason to make the ladder more useful is cool IMO. Could just move the ramp as well so there's always a path but it's not reliable, not being able to fully trust memorization is one of the reasons I love RebalancedMoons.
Also, you could re-add the rickety bridge somewhere, the rivers being traversable and escapable in many situations would mean it breaking would be survivable. Could even swap out the boardwalks maybe?||
signal dome
im prolly not gonna be able to edit the scenes directly anymore
uhoh
coarse spear
i just need to focus on the important stuff first
what is broken in atlas? I didn't notice anything while playing.
sinful jungle
what is broken in atlas? I didn't notice anything while playing.
probably nothing tbh
just took their word for it
maybe v80 broke it
but i dont think it did
sharp finch
i think zeekerss changed skybox stuff a little bit
i've noticed that on the default sky the clouds roll
and i dont think they used to do that
or at least he made the effect way more obvious
im not sure it'd be "broken" though
sinful jungle
Atlas is very simple so i don't think that would have broken it
unless he changed the volume name
sharp light
getting this error when trying to land the ship
hollow schooner
@sinful junglesorry for the ping but im here to ask if i can have your heatwave particle? (ill add you to credits if so)
coarse spear
In the next update, could you improve a little the navmesh from Offense and Assurance fire exits? If the masked is able to reach the pipe, it is already good enough. It's for the global roaming from SmartEnemyPathfinding.
unique wyvern
Hello beautiful people
BIG REBALANCER HERE
RBMer you might say
the mod works just fine right now, the moon changes just aren't up to date with v81, right?
sand iris
BIG REBALANCER HERE
Hello fellow rebalance-head
I also hope that the mod still works, and is being worked on
cinder jackal
BIG REBALANCER HERE
no
unique wyvern
š
jaunty tiger
you're acting like I care how many downloads it has and I made it for any reason other than playing it with my friends
it's canonically a shitty map I made in like an hour lol
proper grotto
Ive only realised now these messages are months old, why has discord sent me to the past.
anyway someone please do this and put it as a fanart thread or forum in some modded moons section
itd be so peak
brave lotus
Ive only realised now these messages are months old, why has discord sent me to ...
didnt we have a guy doing that on yt?
proper grotto
@minor thicket
sinful jungle
you're acting like I care how many downloads it has and I made it for any reason...
i don't think downloads are relevant but if you're gonna upload a level i think you should at least give one screenshot so people know what they are installing, theres no way of knowing you didnt intend other people to play it bc you didnt write that anywhere
i dont care about downloads either i just consider it like etiquette ig theres a lot of quality control issues on thunderstore
unique wyvern
TS moderation doesn't really check readmes lol
sinful jungle
i don't think they check anything, the fact there isnt even a gallery tab for uploads is annoying
unique wyvern
they only care about if a mod's code runs/works at all I think?
unique wyvern
i don't think they check anything, the fact there isnt even a gallery tab for up...
They check mods with code iirc
sinful jungle
ic
unique wyvern
But yeah there's nothing on ts that's like
"add an image and an accurate description"
you can just dump shit in there no text no readme no nothing, they just ask for an icon.png and a manifest.json
also hi dopa š„ŗ
sinful jungle
hey
unique wyvern
are you still interested on working on the mod or has the prospect of more moon reworks from zeekerss kinda taken you out?
sinful jungle
not a lot of work here, burnt myself out on the surgeon and ive been doing other stuff in the meanwhile
but
i Will get to it
unique wyvern
oh coolio! what did you do w the surgeon?
sinful jungle
it has a screen shader when you get close to it that smears your frames like when you bleed out in scp
but it breaks posterization
i havent figured out why yet
cant release an update until i figure that out bc im picky
unique wyvern
it has a screen shader when you get close to it that smears your frames like whe...
ye I use it on biodIntended still I remember
so cool...
unique wyvern
but it breaks posterization
how so?
sinful jungle
it just breaks
unique wyvern
just creates like visual glitches or does it just disable the posterization effects?
sinful jungle
latter
unique wyvern
oooh this is a new thing for the surgeon?
sinful jungle
i whine about it more in the sponge channel
unique wyvern
I thought you meant the old Blue effect it had
sinful jungle
i remade it
unique wyvern
makes sense
yea i was gonna say... you could probably reach out to scoops
but if you alr did I don't know </3
sinful jungle
i think scoops might be busy
idk
i dont like poking them abt it bc i don't really know what to say other than "why isnt this working" like she's chatgpt
screen shaders arent my forte
unique wyvern
i dont like poking them abt it bc i don't really know what to say other than "wh...
LOL
i mean you're fine for doing thatyou legit have no one else to go to
unique wyvern
I just been thinking abt working on more modpacks and RBM was what made vanilla moons interesting in it for me
I also think your other changes to the moons bring em up to parity w the new reworks so
š¦£
sinful jungle
i miss my silly ladders
jaunty tiger
i don't think downloads are relevant but if you're gonna upload a level i think ...
No like
I dont care
If a single person downloads it
And me and my friends dont need a picture to know what it is
sinful jungle
Ok. well I'm still gonna make fun of it lol
i don't care much either i just think its funny
because there are a lot of uploads that are just vague or lazy mixed in with actual projects people maintain and it kind of shows how flawed thunderstore is conceptually pretty well
like if you uploaded something to modrinth with no description or screenshots it would just not get approved to begin with lol
high haven
because there are a lot of uploads that are just vague or lazy mixed in with act...
High quota fixes