MelanieMelicious Mods 😱 (2 sToRy ShIp, Utility Furniture, Pocket Rooms, Farming and Cooking, etc.)

[rich ice]

I've had a report about this, and trying to reproduce it is weird. It worked like 66% of the time for me? In the same session and landing and everything

but it was also weirdly exponential in success rate, since in same session, the more I interacted, the less it failed. It was weird

it was weird, think I know what I'd have to do to fix it, but other than that, it's just funky

[dry merlin]

Gotcha, my friend got grabbed by a robot and screamed "the ladder wasn't laddering"

I'll see if at any point of our playthrough tonight will have other results.

[rich ice]

okay, so unfortunate news, I can see the magnet, regardless of launching in VR mode or not (that said, I'm also not using an actual VR set, just selecting yes or no on the popup). So I haven't been able to reproduce the issue... so not sure what's happening here atm

-# kind of unrelated, but never thought of trying the external ship hull texture as inside walls. Paired with the black floors, it's genuinely such a vibe

[gaunt turret]

Thanks 🙂 i kinda mix whatever would feel like ''home'' i guess

You can see the magnet?. is there an screenshot

[rich ice]

I'd have to relaunch again 😭 but sure, it's easy since this pack is fairly small and quick to launch

[neat rapids]

How DARE you for seeingmagnet. 😡

[rich ice]

EXCUSE MOI

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-rage-silly-cat-bald-head-bald-cat-gif-14874789195890697183

[neat rapids]

💤 back to sleep after wakingup 4th time and ragebaiting mel

[rich ice]

I KILL YOU

[gaunt turret]

Yeah thats the magnet. but what about the switch??

[rich ice]

OH you want the SWITCH

[gaunt turret]

YEAH!

[rich ice]

I moved it up here like way at beginning of 2SS + Wider 😭

[gaunt turret]

Bro. that is NOT there

I'll show you right now

[rich ice]

that is weird if it's not there for you. I'm genuinely unsure what's happening 😭

[gaunt turret]

You want the log in vr?

lemme rephrase that

You want me to give you the session log for when im in vr?

[rich ice]

yeah, I'd liek to read the log while being in VR

yeah, I'd like the log for when you're in VR

[gaunt turret]

Sure. log coming up

[rich ice]

see if I can find anything off

lastly, to make sure, I assume you also checked the vanilla spot for the switch, and it wasn't there either, right?

[gaunt turret]

i've checked everywhere. i wouldn't ask if i knew where it was now would i

[copper sage]

MEL

[rich ice]

WHAT

WHAT DO YOU WANT

[copper sage]

vc hangout 2 in the glitch server

if you aint the busy

[rich ice]

oKAY

[gaunt turret]

You need the LogOutput.log? or

[rich ice]

yeah

[gaunt turret]

Here the log + screenshot from both

[rich ice]

thanks

WHO EYESED ME

[gaunt turret]

idk.. must've been the wind

[fervent robin]

https://tenor.com/view/soggy-cat-shark-ssoggycat-the-looker-let's-take-a-look-gif-2759838461632389519

[surreal lotus]

Hi! does anyone know why my game is like this? like, my quota was 1k and the deadline was in 2 days. and the ship should look like the one in the third image. my save resets, the items disappear, and it's as if I played for 0 days (i have a backup so its ok for this) perhaps it's not the right place to ask, but it happened after I updated 2storyship and furniture I must say that I also exported my r2modman profile to gale mod manager, but I already tried reinstalling the modpack with the code I gave my friend via r2 again and it doesn't work for me (it's working normally for him)

[rich ice]

1 question, what version of 2SS are you on. I released another patch shortly after the previous one, that fixes an issue I realized

2.2.6 is the newest, 2.2.5 is the one that was missing an important thing

sorry, let me fix those numbers

okay there

2.2.6 is the newest

[surreal lotus]

oh, I just checked and there's an update for version 2.2.6 i will check it rn

I don't know why this update wasn't showing up before, but it worked yay thank you

[rich ice]

you're welcome! 🩵 Glad it worked

it likely didn't show up because the mod managers weren't synced with the new update yet

[pseudo swallow]

WOW I just looked at your new NPC mod and this stuff is PEAK
It's so funny because last Saturday a friend of mine said "I'd be cool to have a blackmarket at the company building that would sell you stuff like weapons and ammo"
And I remember seeing your NPC mod and thinking, this is exactly what he was hoping for.

I'd be so cool to be able to costumize this little guys trades via a config.

Alos wanted to say that the mod at first didn't work for me because the API isn't a dependency but that's probably because it's still so early

Can't wait to see what you do with this mod

[gaunt turret]

I wanna know how this works with LCVR as it has a custom UI element. if it appears in screenspace or semi world space so its not constantly in your face

[neat rapids]

wholesome errors with presumably navmesh regen default set to true, with celestial tint + wider ship installed

^ shows the ladder and stuff inside the ship

[gaunt turret]

Maybe an incompatbility with ''SpawnOutsideHazards'' mod?

[neat rapids]

thats a base game method

[gaunt turret]

Oh 💀

[pseudo swallow]

@rich ice Just wanted to report that if you have "FixPluginTypesSerialization" installed, the trade option isn't displayed
Replaced with "Do you need anything?"

[rich ice]

oh I'm so silly, I should add it as a dependency 😭

[rich ice]

oh interesting, okay, I'll check in a bit

[rich ice]

uh oh uh oh uh oh I have no idea 😭

[rich ice]

oh okay, I check that too in a bit

[rich ice]

I do have one question. Did you finish the quest first? (Shop won't show up until finishing it)

then the quest info dialogue will disappear after finishing it, too

[pseudo swallow]

wait let me check

[pseudo swallow]

Wait WHAT ok I didn't even know about that

This is the order of me experiencing this mod:😅

1. I only had the NPC mod installed and not the API so the NPC was there but pressing E on them didn't do anything
2. I installed the API and I was able to talk and trade with them
   I tried to give them the walkie but they didn't reacted to me holding it in my hand.
3. I added the mod to my modpack and now they didn't give me the trade option because I have FixPluginTypesSerialization installed now
   But thats probably because NOW the mod finally works correctly because when they ask for the walkie I can give it to them and unlock the trades

I guess this means FixPluginTypesSerialization should ALSO be a dependency

[rich ice]

I guess while you type, uh, I like your idea of being able to configure this shop specifically. Now how I'd plan to do it is have this config for some of my shops in my actual very tiny still, NPC mod. I don't really feel like figuring out doing that for the API 😭

oh I see what you mean. But yeah, I have to update the dependencies and allat, to actually have what's needed 😭 so I guess I'll also try to do the config shop thing in a bit, with that patch

I don't think most the shops would have a config, but I think it works well for this one as being the uh, only one available atm 😭 and it'd be nice to let people customize something

[pseudo swallow]

Oh yeah no take your time, Glad you like the idea of the config
All i can say is MY FRIENDS ARE GONNA LOVE THIS

[rich ice]

this does remind me, I really should write the wiki for creating NPCs in the Unity editor soon. That, or at least just, release the example one as a public package somewhere, so anybody interested has something to work off of. I just been uh, pre-occupied with other things 😭

[harsh atlas]

Take your time Melanie you deserve it

[gaunt turret]

Have you decipher the log to find out why someone stole my ship magnet?

[rich ice]

oh yeah, I skimmed through to try find something, I hadn't found anything the first time, unfortunately. At least through a very quick skim and using search filters to find keywords and errors 😭. So no idea what's happening still

[rich ice]

oh yeah, little heads up, I added the config thing and all that, so you should be able to customize it after generating the config file after launching the game. There should be some examples listings in the config, for the format, for how to add the shop entries

[copper sage]

https://i.gyazo.com/304a7da38c98d9fbf0f10c59b1a839be.jpg more. MORE.

[rich ice]

WOAH I'M IN THE SCREENSHOT

I photobombed today's fruit haul

[copper sage]

yes

[pseudo swallow]

Just tried it out and it works great!
I made him a hungry weapons salesman

wait looking at this screenshot it looks like you can trade Sizable Scissors for a kitchen🤣 (It's a kitchen knife)

[rich ice]

YEAHHHH EASY KITCHEN

but yeah, been thinking if I should expand the UI element tabs vertically so cutoff is less likely to happen like that. It's an easy change, just uh, only thought about it 😭

[pseudo swallow]

That could work yeah 👍
I also noticed it be nice to have a live display of the credits you still have for the buy tab and your current quota for the sell tab

[rich ice]

ooooh yeah, that would be nice, actually. I'll see when I can get to that, but it should be relatively easy. That, and maybe a config for this NPC for if the sell and trade tabs can affect quota. I just like the idea of making things customizable for player ends, the more I think about it 😭

[gaunt turret]

Just how im i gonna be able to hook my cruiser without an magnet switch?

[rare gyro]

just keep it in your pocket

[rich ice]

I really don't know, unfortunately. It's super weird what's happening. But maybe you can get that one cruiser mod that adds a keybind and a switch on the actual cruiser, to activate/deactivate the magnet?

either that or

hmmm

so either that, or I just thought of something. Not sure if it will work for you or not, but it doesn't really hurt to try it I guess

[gaunt turret]

what mod is that?

[rich ice]

uhhh, I'll be honest, I don't know 😭 I'll have to find it

[gaunt turret]

• it has to be lcvr compatible due to material shaders

[gaunt turret]

Do you mind looking for me?

[real lotus]

BetterVehicleControls

CruiserAdditions adds a secondary switch into the car but I don't know if it's VR compatible

BetterVehicleControls adds a keybind and probably is compatible with VR but I'm unsure

[rich ice]

thanks

[gaunt turret]

life is ruined!!

[real lotus]

np mlemelnaileilmelisliclioemlainaie

[gaunt turret]

Just who made the mod?

[real lotus]

BetterVehicleControls?

1A3 did

[gaunt turret]

Yeah

[rich ice]

if that doesn't work, uh, if it isn't too much of a hassle, does the switch show up if you're only using 2-story without wider ship? I just need to verify since I only touch the switch when wider is enabled

it would still be weird though, bc if that did something, I guess VR is for some reason not moving it the same way

[gaunt turret]

#1256643307921084437 message There

[rich ice]

wiat a minute

I wonder if the switch is actually still there and interactable, but just invisible? That could make more sense, but honestly would still be a bit weird

[gaunt turret]

Its not

Why would it even be invisable in the first place

[rich ice]

idk what the actual VR mode changes or if it adds any special culling, so I just had a random thought

but yeah, other than that, idk why it seems to just be gone

[rare gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-saul-goodman3d-cat-better-call-cat-gif-26469670

good luck w that

[gaunt turret]

wym good luck?

legit 2 buttons and your done 🤷

[rare gyro]

(the large deficit of v81 vr updated mods)

[polar sage]

is there something I am doing wrong where my pocket rooms don't save what's in them, everything just loads in the middle of the ship

[rare gyro]

they borky rn...

😭

they will be fixed... in due time

[polar sage]

thank you for the update

[acoustic jolt]

@rich ice good night! In the new NPC mod, can i put 2 itens in the price of a trade? Example: A Key and a Shovel for one Easter Egg and etc

Sorry for the harsh english

Now in the right thread hahahahahaa

[rich ice]

I have to change things, but I can try. Right now, it checks item player is holding, so I have to search inventory for 2 or more items in trade. Thanks for recommendation!

[rich ice]

uhhh, assuming you have dawnlib, items teleport when using its save system (which is enabled by default). You can disable it in dawnlib's config, but the wording is communicated weirdly, because you have to enable disabling its save system. But also, since it's enabled by default, and switching between its save system and vanilla's save system causes items to disappear, it's probably better to only change it on a new save, or if you have no items on current one (example, after selling, and didn't buy tools yet)

[copper sage]

https://i.gyazo.com/7731045da8dd7c200d47423a2db10793.jpg

[rich ice]

DON'T act all innocent

I heard you saying you FORGOT to post today's fruit haul in my thread

JUST NOW actually

[copper sage]

nuh uh

-# yuh huh

[honest ledge]

😀

-# my God, look at this hotbar

[copper sage]

https://i.gyazo.com/0eb34d4dce1c623fc198821e4fba9b38.jpg cant stop wont stop

[lost herald]

all that fruit yet no soil

[rare gyro]

she shoves 15 watermelons up his ass

[honest ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/waffascraffa-hamster-meme-happy-hamster-joyous-chiikawa-happy-gif-16374986407687065427

Ofc he does (I saw that myself)

[copper sage]

Five. Hundred. Watermelons.

[honest ledge]

@scenic haven tf you mean grime

[scenic haven]

[copper sage]

https://i.gyazo.com/dfef60610684e6f77520d36ab250b635.jpg i dont have a fruit problem you have a fruit problem NUH UH YOU NOT ME

[meager tiger]

hello mel, i'm tryna use the new NPC API you made, and the NPC Node script doesn't appear for me even though it's clearly in the .dll

[rich ice]

oh hi, thi is uh, why I should make that wiki 😭
But uh, all the parts you would normally use (besides the actual NPC script) are ScriptableObjects, so it's just in the right-click somewhere in Project tab, Create > ScriptableObjects > MelMelNPC > [Node]

[meager tiger]

ohhhhh

i see now, it's like a scriptable object

makes sense

[rich ice]

yeah 😀

[rain fog]

Hey Melaine, I'm the creator of the mod Lethal Bots and was wondering if you would consider helping me with adding support for your mod 2 sToRy ShIp. You see, my mod adds a NavMesh to the ship while its in orbit. I got this to work by adding a custom GameObject with the NavMeshSurface layer, "I may or may not of ripped the NavMesh colldiers from Experimentation," to the ship while its in orbit. I have my mod disable the NavMesh when the ship lands on a moon and renable it when the ship returns to orbit. My mod only bakes the mesh once when the prefab is used, but the issue I have is that it doesn't respect custom ship sizes. I saw in your mod's dll that you use custom ship NavMesh colliders for when the ship is landed on a moon and was wondering if you could patch mine to replace my NavMesh prefab with yours instead.

[copper sage]

https://i.gyazo.com/9b466a0745bfd03a6558680c839a0cbc.jpg

[rich ice]

oh hi, yeah, I can look into it in a bit. A fun fact is that the navmesh for my ship should actually uh, be active at all times. So pretty sure all I'd need to is disable yours or make it inert, and they should default to using the remaining one

[rich ice]

IT'S ME, I'M THERE AGAIN, DO YOU SEE ME

[rain fog]

Although Lethal Bots is open source. Here is the region where I add the NavMesh:

[rich ice]

ooooh thanks 😀
makes it a bit easier

[rain fog]

I'm also going to publicize these members to make it easier as well!

 // Variables that handle the ship's NavMesh
 // NOTE: Public to help other modders with replacing the navmesh with their own custom one if they want to!
 public NavMeshSurface shipNavMeshSurface = null!;
 public GameObject? shipNavMeshInstance = null!;
 public bool shipNavMeshBuilt => shipNavMeshSurface != null
                             && shipNavMeshSurface.navMeshData != null
                             && shipNavMeshInstance != null;
 public bool shipNavMeshActive = false;
 public NavMeshObstacle landingShipNavObstacle = null!;
 public (float height, float radius) landingShipNavObstacleInfo = (0f, 0f);

[rich ice]

ooohhh, that will make it much much easier, thank you! 🩵

[copper sage]

who're you?

[rain fog]

Alright, I just pushed an update that publicizes the fields!

[rich ice]

alrighty! I'll just quickly finish testing this other thing, and then I'll get to doing the compat 😀

[rich ice]

okay, a little update. After getting distracted with making something else 😭 I finally got to testing the bots on orbit. I found out I actually have the wider 2-story ship navmesh disabled around 2 patches ago (oops). But after fixing that, it seems the bots can already use the new bounds just fine, without actually doing anything. It's still probably a good idea for me to do something with the old one though, anyways, instead of just leaving it there, though

but this is actually kinda fun just having them here in orbit following me

I want to make them chase me up infinite stories

yeah, I definitely still need to do stuff about the old one, since, now testing with non-wider 2-story, only one is pathing successfully (I actually think I need to do a little more, when not following the player, they just keep trying to go through the door [okay, figured out the issue 😀])

[copper sage]

https://i.gyazo.com/2fbc56b6b728538ba7cf891d0cac3c40.jpg yummy yummy

[calm adder]

is there a reason why I can't climb the ladder to the 2nd story I have wider ship mod installed too if that's the issue

[gray fern]

Can we add a fire pole to transit between floors if you're messing with the infinite story ship? 🐈‍⬛

Lmao
It's mostly for memes anyway

One day we're gonna turn the ship into a flying citadel

[rain fog]

Nice!

BTW, if you are wondering on how to make the bots pick more spots to wander to, it's based on StartOfRound.Instance.insideShipPositions!

StartOfRound.Instance.insideShipPositions is an array of transforms that marks points inside of the ship. Masked Players use these as hiding spots, but I reuse them for the bots as well. If you wanted to add more spots, you just need to modify this array to add more transforms!

Thankfully its public, which should make adding new nodes easier!

public Transform[] insideShipPositions;

[cerulean roost]

can i ask if melanie interiors, and Wider Ship Mod works for v81?
and I wanted to ask if there were any known incompatibilities with some mods with wider ship before I completely break my modpack (354 mods)

[copper sage]

https://i.gyazo.com/8f01e347c0e416c4b10985a657634290.jpg with how dark the shadows become as they come closer, i think this is a good stopping point for the collection

next quota, i sell it all

[granite mantle]

soo wider ship mod breaks when i try to use it with your mod

we cant use it anymore?

just the added floors

[rich ice]

uhhhh

okay a few things to reply to

[rich ice]

in what way does it break for you?

[rich ice]

I would normally say that those two don't seem like they would have problems together, but newest report seems to apparently have an issue I have to look into. Assuming paired with 2SS

[rich ice]

oh, thanks 😭 I was wanting to look for that thing at some point, and then didn't for 2 years 😀

[rich ice]

YEAHHHH YEAHHHHHHHH 😭 everything ship

[rich ice]

this is kind of a funky issue. I know how to fix it though, I just uh, haven't done it yet

[granite mantle]

the ship was all outta wack

i wish i had a screen shot of it frfrr stuff thats outside of the wider ship was inside in the rooms and the hand railings upstairs was good but that first floor looks like a mad house

[rich ice]

what mods do you have? Or uh, actually, can I get a log file and a modpack code?

wait

[granite mantle]

i dont anymore bc i started optimizing since the update

i can try adding it to what i have again to get the bug

[rich ice]

stuff that's outside the ship, you mean like, uhhh, ladders and stuff?

[granite mantle]

yea and theres like this big box that sits if you stare at the monitors on the right side before the car magnet closest to the ship door

[rich ice]

did you have the ship and stuff without the bug before, and started getting it recently? Or did you add it recentyl, and had the bug?

[granite mantle]

since version 80 and now 81

[rich ice]

like, since the bug, or since you had it?

[granite mantle]

maybe its wider ship

since i had it was when 80 dropped

[rich ice]

idk, I've updated a few times recently, so it might be me, even though I'm unable to reproduce the bug in a normal setting

[granite mantle]

thats ok

let me see if i can get it to happen again and ill take that code and gove it to you

[rich ice]

alrighty, thanks

[granite mantle]

my mod pack is alil big tho with the stuff we use

rn i have it completely everywhere 😭

an hd mod was messing with open body cams

[rich ice]

😭 uh oh

but I get that, sometimes it's just fun to add a bunch of mods, and then there's 😬 incompats

[granite mantle]

yes for sure and it only becomes that way after updates for me, but its understandable

[rich ice]

thansk for reporting this bug actually, because it made me find a completely unrelated bug

uhh, not a public one

but if I published it, it would have become public

[rare gyro]

the bug that only appears for people who havent published

and if fixed before publishing breaks everything

[rich ice]

FIRST THE MARINES

NOW THIS

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

[rare gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-street-cat-mrs-kirby-cat-mr-fresh-gif-17588167726150841867

[brisk widget]

damn look who is not cool colors now

[rich ice]

uM aCtUaLlY bLuE iS a CoOl CoLoR, ReD iS wArM cOloR

[rare gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/you're-blue-now-youre-blue-now-papyrus-undertale-blue-attack-gif-16467669908740974125

[brisk widget]

🤓

[calm adder]

as punishment I will drop your plushie 10x

[rare gyro]

ouch

ouch

ouch

[rich ice]

HEY

[acoustic jolt]

Does the cooked meals heals? or there any means to do this? And about cheese, where can i find cheese or transform in chese? Me and my gf tried and cant make cheese, maybe we missed something

[frozen scroll]

This moon pack or Gorgonzola has cheese as scrap

also of note mel, this was the first time on this save i went to the company building, not only did i not buy the walk for them, but they also chose to sell things twice

I don't think my last safe got removed properly i have noticed that before, saves be like that xD

[rich ice]

oh yeah, cooked meals should heal. And uh, yeah, cheese, like ever-changing potato username person said, was actually a sort of like a thing from when I saw Gorgonzola a while back, and was like, "I kind of want to cook with these cheese." That said, I do plan to add native versions at some point, just uh, it also needs some plans 😭

[rich ice]

oh, yeah, a small thing with the saving for the NPCs that I kind of have to fix. Reloading a new save in the same session as one with save progress loaded, will still use that save progress. I gotta fix that, yeah. Also uh, the shop thing 😭 I'll be 100%, I was aware of that shortly after posting, that reloading the save will make the shop entries do a mitosis 😭. I should have it fixed, but didn't update yet because not a huge issue*

[frozen scroll]

Ever changing potato :3

[cerulean roost]

if u need i can add the mod into the modpack and give u the log

[pseudo swallow]

same happens to me

[cerulean roost]

can i ask if wider ship mod work in v81?

[worn escarp]

yes

thats fumo mod hehe

[brisk widget]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmmmmmm-hmmmmmm-hmmmm-hm-hmm-gif-2339932555530048784

[frozen scroll]

This pole has some charge to it

[rare gyro]

those ground textures

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-cat-uncanny-valley-dark-wtf-gif-14708455975531353777

[frozen scroll]

Its from pikmin 1 upscaled

[calm adder]

is there a way to change the color of the yellow rails to say silver like the suit rack or greyish black like the window borders

[meager tiger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1498527636920602696/1500682982833520690/Memz-ForestKeeper_2.gif

[cerulean roost]

i'm stuck on loading seed after adding ur mods can i ask help with the log for understand the problem?

[frozen scroll]

Wider ship is not mel's

[calm adder]

may not have made it but owns it at this point stg

[brisk widget]

interior cant generate

[cerulean roost]

i think the problem is wider ships all the melania mods work...

isn't possible to let wider ship work?

[worn escarp]

Fumo just told you the issue is the interiors

[brisk widget]

you are kinda 1.5 hours late

[worn escarp]

You are kinda 28 minutes late to my 1.5 hours late

[scenic haven]

Yeah looking at the logs the interior that failed is the museum

[worn escarp]

Ok

[cerulean roost]

but i can't load any seeds

[cerulean roost]

i have 89 interiors and the game choose casually the interiors to use and still after 10 times i don't load any interiors

[rich ice]

hi, I read the bottom of the log for when the error happened. But uh, are you on version v73 or v80+?

[cerulean roost]

81

the owner of wider ships say is a problem with ur mod

[rich ice]

and dungeon generation plus updated 3 days ago. So I'm just going to assume it's a thing with my interiors mod, which I have not updated in a while

[rich ice]

but the question is, have you had my interiors actually load (as in you got past loading seed screen) before this. Because if they did, that's weird

[cerulean roost]

i don't understand why al the modpack work without any problem if i don't install wider ship mod

[rich ice]

which is the part that confuses me. Which is why I'm asking if the interiors actually worked before this, not just loading game, but landing, and going inside has my interiors

[cerulean roost]

yea

with all ur mod all interiors work

[rich ice]

like you went inside, and it was one of mine?

[cerulean roost]

when i add wider ships the game perma load on seed

[cerulean roost]

nope

or i don't think soo, i have a very large modpack and is hard to understand what interiors i get

but the problem is i can't load any interiors with wider ships, not only yours

[rich ice]

do you have a different log where it failed to load, but shows a different interior was trying to load?

[cerulean roost]

mmm nope anymore

[rich ice]

because I was going to ask if you could test without my interior mod. But actually, can I get a modpack code as well, so I could try testing the specifics?

[cerulean roost]

right now i'm on lethal company with other 9 people with all the mods and all works and i can't say to anyone bye bye for try it now XD

if u won't tomorrow i will try

[rich ice]

oh yeah, no worries, no rush. Including for modpack code

[cerulean roost]

if u need i can give u the modpack code, but is like 14 GB.......

[rich ice]

oh

😨

[brisk widget]

you can repro it with just this

019df4ae-9178-6690-f00d-387128bd177c

[cerulean roost]

XD 370 mod

[brisk widget]

vanila works fine

[rich ice]

thanks for f00d in modpack code

[brisk widget]

https://tenor.com/view/утюг-cat-est-utug-gif-15997868462494236323

it fails on first tile btw because tiles are collide

ig something changed in doorway components since v80/81 so you need to update and rebuild

[rich ice]

yeahhh, that makes sense. I just uh, haven't been as interested in touching my interiors for a while 😢, been fixated on other things

but yeah, it was good to be able to verify just in case that adding WS was just coincidence, and there wasn't just weird incompat

[brisk widget]

erm actuamly you will get stuck even without WS on profile that i gave

[rich ice]

that's what I mean, I'm saying just needed to make sure the report was just coincidence, and that it happens without it

I might talk a bit confusingly sometimes, mb

[brisk widget]

you TALK now?

damn

[rich ice]

yeah 😔

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-rage-silly-cat-bald-head-bald-cat-gif-14874789195890697183

[oak chasm]

Melanie

[rich ice]

WHAT

[rich ice]

oh yeah, uhhh, try using ship colors mod

[rich ice]

fun fact, I noticed this a few days before this. So it's already written as fixed in the changelog

not the public one, in uh, upcoming one

[frozen scroll]

Hmm fair

[gaunt turret]

@rich ice Do you know the vector distance between the origin point of the ship towards the ships railing edges?. basically the distance between the origin of the ship towards each railing (Outside)

[regal thistle]

For the Pocket Rooms, do you need the Wider Ship mod/2 Story Ship mod to work? I purchased the stockroom0 and it placed the door on the exterior of the ship where I can't move it.

[rich ice]

this was an oops, but when I next update, it should be fixed. That's mY bAd

[regal thistle]

What would the method of fixing it, if there is one? I can think of adding the wider ship mod, but idk if it will permit into the save.

[rich ice]

uhhhhh, origin point, like model center? I can uh, try get them rn, but uh, why do you need them

[rich ice]

yeah, adding WS will let you get it, then you can move it. You can also use furniture lock to force change positions to anywhere based on coordinates

[gaunt turret]

Basically trying to get the hangar/ship's center and off-centering them to play an emitter once you land basically

[rich ice]

oooh I see

[gaunt turret]

Basically need these vectors

(Front, facing the terminal)

[rich ice]

uh, so for a little bit of context, the HangerShip's gameobject center is out of the ship, and the ShipInside (model) gameobject is uh, properly inside. Uh, so depending on which one you're specifically trying to reference from, locally. But since it looks like this is for a moon? I can just get the uh, global positions

[gaunt turret]

Basically the floor of the hangar's center would be relative enough

I'm asking because some people might use bigger ship and some dont. this basically makes it aligned to it'll have similar effect regardless if you have a big ship or not

[gaunt turret]

Since the ship is gonna be moving while its landing. it'll be great to have it as accurate as possible

[rich ice]

okay that was my next question, if you needed vanilla or the custom ships 😭 wasn't sure if I was just being asked nicely for vanilla vector distance

[gaunt turret]

If i could get both

[rich ice]

I mean, for 2SS, the side of the stairs is just about 2 units farther, and the other side is identical. With 2SS + Wider, it's 5 units further on each side. Then uh, extended catwalk (if you wanted to do that) is just 3 units further. So if you have vanilla ship stuff, then you can just add the extra units. But uh, if you still need them then

I'll probably give global positions. It gives the most flexible info, then you can also convert them easily by moving them from being unparented to anything but the scene, to being parented under the object you want them under

so how do you feel about corners like this

[gaunt turret]

If you can & make it any better. the origin point would basically be the control center (Where the lever is at) and off-center there. would the vectors change? if so to what

[gaunt turret]

it'll be in the middle basically of the bend

[rich ice]

well there's global and local positions. So if I put something under, say, the lever vs the hanger ship. If their local positions were both 0,0,0, the one on the lever would be on the levers position, and the one on hangar ship would be like, 7 units outside the ship's visual center

okay, I'll give the uh, global positions for the scene, for each point for the vanilla ship, but then I gotta go

WOW NO MORE THUMBS UP FOR ME

let this be a lesson, peer pressure works

GLOBAL POSITIONS
-9, 0, -18.75    (With Wider + 2SS, -23.75 for Z)
-9, 0, -9.25    (With Wider + 2SS, -4.25 for Z)(With only 2SS, -7.25 for Z)
13, 0, -9    (With Wider + 2SS, -4 for Z)(With only 2SS, -7 for Z)
13, 0, -19.25    (With Wider + 2SS, -24.25 for Z)

[gaunt turret]

Believe me huge thanks to you 🙂

[gaunt turret]

Are these the lever or the floor center vectors?

[acoustic jolt]

We all love melanie, cant wait for the NPCS with custom models hehe

[rich ice]

I ALSO LOVE MELANIE

[rich ice]

it's just the global positions, relative to the scene. Like imagine the parts don't have any parent. Something I should have asked before, is if you're adding stuff through code or through Unity, like where you're using the coordinates. If through code, doing transform.position can just directly use the global positions. If through Unity, you can put some gameobject directly in the scene with no parent, put the positions, and then uh, move them to be parented under the part you specifically want them relative to

I've been uh, a bit confused by what you mean by floor vectors. If you mean the ship floor, something like the vanilla ship has most of the entire ship in one model (ShipInside). Maybe uh, next time we're both fully available at the same time, I can try directly seeing what you're doing, where, so I can get a better idea

[ionic hamlet]

Heya o/
Just here to send a shoutouts for the interiors, they really go well with the Luigi's Mansion moon, it's like having a trilogy, 1 for the moon, 2 for the mausoleum and 3 for the museum
Also the 2 story ship is a must for big lobbies
So thank you for all of these 💖

[rich ice]

I'm glad you've been enjoying them! Speaking of, I probably do need to update interiors soon, but when I finish some other things

[cerulean roost]

Apparently, the problem with Wider Ship not working was with Wesley's and Mel's interiors. After disabling those, everything seems to be working fine. If you encounter any errors, please report them here.

[granite mantle]

maybe its wesleys then thats the biggest thing

bc i didnt have the interiors and it was still bugging out the ship

[rich ice]

well my interiors on the other hand, I know for a fact have a problem, and I probably have to rebuild them for v80+

[granite mantle]

does the interiors involve the ship's interior?

[rich ice]

I meant my dungeon interiors, when I was saying what I said

but uh, if you meant if ship and dungeon are connected somehow, they shouldn't be

[west spruce]

The 2-Story Ship mod doesn't respect the "Extended Side" config value for Wider Ship, it always includes both the left and right room. So you can't have a two-story ship with just the expanded left room or just the expanded right room, it always adds both.

It also doesn't respect the config values that remove either or both interior walls.

[ionic hamlet]

yeah most interiors mods tend to break whenever a big main game update happens :/
I always fell bad for the modders needing to fix it afterwards ^^"

[west spruce]

I don't think this is a main game update thing, and more a thing with the integration BETWEEN two mods that modify the ship

It probably won't ever change because it would need a bunch of additional work to fix (like if the left side is disabled you have to move the stairs over)

[rich ice]

oh, yeah, it's just a thing of uh, really not wanting to add that modular of something, when I also have to account for the third floor, the alternate ship layouts, and everything. It becomes convoluted, especially by uh, how messy 2SS is internally 😭

(also uh, Falcyonis was talking about dungeon interiors, not ship interiors 😭)

[west spruce]

that's totally fair

[ionic hamlet]

I was indeed talking about dungeon interiors, my bad for not being more clear ^^"

[rich ice]

okay, I'm going to do mini upload spree

[fervent robin]

v73 compat?

[rich ice]

I HOPE YOU DIE

[fervent robin]

D:

[rich ice]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-running-playing-having-fun-gif-26860048

[fervent robin]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-rumble-seaking-facade-gif-21281452

[rich ice]

okay time to post logs, and I also almost said this in private server wordle channel instead of here

I realize there's also a few small patches I never posted here. But that's also because they were small patches

Farming and Cooking 1.4.0

• Added E.M.I. Bee Pacifier, crafted with 1 apparatus, 2 zap guns, 1 radar booster, and 4 of any metal sheets.
• Added Roaming Locust, and Masked Hornet queens. Roaming Locust queens are now the default (lowest tier) hive queen (I realize I want to change this again in hindsight, but uh, next time). Docile bee queens are now instead tier 2, by catching circuit bee swarms. Masked hornet queens are tier 3.
• Added SeedMaker to convert produce to its seeds.
• Added Golden Tomato Seeds which have a higher 15% chance to grow golden variants than the normal 2% variant.
• Added IceCreamMaker for creating icecream-related products.
• Added red grape, green grape, and fruit popsicles (yes, I know, WHY THROUGH ICECREAM MACHINE).
• Added 2 more fish variants (proper dedicated fishing update SoOn).
• Added cooking oil made through grinding giant tomato seeds or fish.
• Added fishsticks made in crockpot using fish, flour, and cooking oil.
• Fixed Muddy Pleader using Mossy Squirt's item properties.
• Holding kegs no longer blocks your interactions with the barrel's interact. Physics disabled when held.

.
Crafting Progression Core 1.1.0

• Added Crucible for melting various metal items into metal bars.
• Added iron, aluminium, brass, and copper bars.
• Added anvil crafted with 5 iron bars, to add as a tool on the workbench.
• Added iron, and aluminium sheets, crafted at a workbench when hammer and anvil tools unlocked. Considered metal sheets for crafting.
• Added crafting recipe for hammer, using 1 wooden pole, and 1 iron bar, at a workbench.
• Added crafting recipe for keys, using 1 brass bar at a workbench.
• Added optional animator component to play before spawning crafted items, to crafting script.
• Physical items on logs and planks disabled on pickup and enabled on drop. Effect on cruiser (still occurs, but) substantially minimized unless player is pushed by item into cruiser.
• Wooden stick is no longer conductive metal.

Pocket Rooms 1.1.0

• Added CellarA pocket room. If Farming and Cooking mod is enabled, adds winerack interacts to the shelves. ALSO WOAH, LIGHTBULB? NOT JUST LIGHT COMING OUT OF NOWHERE?!
• Fixed lights being off-center in last few updates.
• Switched dependencies.

Pocket Room Library 2.1.7

• Added a compat thing.

okay done done. Time to play a game after uploading all these games. You can only guess what game I'm going to play 😀 yeah 😀 don't starve together

also @copper sage have fun, they're actually released now 😱, and I almost pinged Peps and another Pepsi Man

[copper sage]

WOW

😀

[rich ice]

you are NOT 😀 friend

you are jorking the peenar friend

okay maybe I should've re-read before sending

[fervent robin]

what the fuck

[rare gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/manul-manul-cat-pallas-pallas-cat-lotus-gif-4574602570652911813

jork your manuler

[fervent robin]

MINOR

[rare gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/manul-manul-cat-pallas-pallas-cat-lotus-gif-4574602570652911813

[fervent robin]

you're gross 👎

[rare gyro]

im beanie

hi

[fervent robin]

gross nasty little maggot

[rare gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-hello-cat-kitty-kitty-hi-gif-25696686

[fervent robin]

kill you quickly... with bare hands

!!!

[neat rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-gif-22973312

[dry merlin]

Woke up and wanted to check on mod updates and this is what I see in "Messages you might have missed"

[supple mantle]

https://external-preview.redd.it/AB8MmoqGeZfLLdbS-oSsJkKLmvPy3OJsEGl3UB-ctn0.gif?auto=webp&s=2b24a098e02ea9428b6c2d1e59b3478eb583a8c2

[rich ice]

Y'ALL THIS ISN'T JORKING THREAD NOOOOO

[fervent robin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1108362118199251017/1149238629290496060/caption-8.gif

this is the scratching nuts thread

[brisk widget]

Too late

[rare gyro]

JorkanieJorkicious mods

[rich ice]

they say artists tend to eventually go towards nsfw...

[worn escarp]

bout time

[dry merlin]

Coming in a mod list near you:
Gordion'sJorkingRoom - a Pocket Room expansion

imagine the confusion for those who uses Melanie's mods when they see it listed and are not aware of this thread.

[calm adder]

some just do it off rip for the love of the game

[acoustic jolt]

Its your turn

[worn escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-gif-24482418

[gilded stone]

Depends how hard the commitment is. I do both, but most I do is ecchi (artistic nude character WIPs)

[worn escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/themoreyouknow-more-know-gif-4483207

[oak chasm]

is peeling a banana akin to taking its clothes off?

[rare gyro]

skin

[oak chasm]

Perfectly balanced, as all things should be

[rich ice]

BREAD STACKING META

[oak chasm]

truly breadful

[rich ice]

truly getting all the angles

[woven jay]

BETER ANGLE to flex

[woven jay]

OMNOMNEOMNOM

[gaunt turret]

I forgot what mod that was

[dry merlin]

I suddenly got hungry. What mod adds those noms

[gaunt turret]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/MelanieMelicious/Farming_and_Cooking_Mod_MelanieMelicious/

[dry merlin]

Adding it without the consent of my friends. Thank you!
Last time I added a mod that makes the horn explode, they screamed in horror.
Surely they won't with these.

Also from Melanie too. Noice

[rich ice]

WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE

[rare gyro]

ig you could say youre rolling in the dough.

[rich ice]

https://tenor.com/view/roll-over-cute-cat-epic-fail-fail-fall-gif-14224991

[cerulean roost]

the interiors? O.O

[frozen scroll]

Must be good fucken bread

[fervent robin]

that is a beautiful looking second floor, feels so homely lol

[rich ice]

yeah, it has mountains of bread inside it, a large axle, a flood of alcohol, an anvil, several bars of metal, a raek, multiple long wooden poles, other random food, and a radar booster

[rich ice]

oh yeah, good point, I should uh, get back to that I guess. I am feeling slightly in the mood for it, so I guess I'll look at it again

[frozen scroll]

Wait how?

[limber cliff]

It was!

[rich ice]

why did I here genuine horror effect sounds irl

hear

[brisk widget]

here

[rich ice]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-inform-whisper-what-gif-11607966043387348688

[rare gyro]

the horrors

[rich ice]

I launched game if you gonna join

wong whcat

[rare gyro]

yeah i gonna

https://tenor.com/view/cat-drink-pacifier-gif-2926582936289765743

[rare gyro]

whcat...

[worn escarp]

Joining rn

[fervent robin]

can i join ✋

[rich ice]

😭

[drifting pelican]

I love this mod but I have this one issue. One of the doorways is blocked, seemingly by the wider ship mod. Is this a known issue? Is it being worked on?

[rich ice]

oh, yeah, turns out I just messed up with not including a thing to make sure I run after WiderShip's wall placement (to remove it), when using the current default layout. WiderShip usually doesn't do much when it detects 2SS, except keeping the walls, because I said it would be cool to keep it (back when the default and only ship layout was the more open legacy layout)...

But yeah, for now, you can just go into WiderShip's config and disabled the left wall so it disappears

[drifting pelican]

oh okay

Thank you!

[brisk widget]

you can just force my configs thru code

before placement

ngl i actually forgot about walls

[gaunt turret]

there is a config that says ''disable left wall'' or something like that simply toggle that and it should fix the issue. it might aswell say ''Disable pillars'' or something

I had to disable the pillars because they weren't vr compatible due to shader incompatibility 😭, which is NOT fun to look at

[meager tiger]

well thanks cooking and farming mod for adding a collision to a scrap

[frozen scroll]

My guess is it pushed you thru the ship?

[meager tiger]

(why is this a thing vro 😭)

nah the log item has a collision

which by design is already a bad idea

but it also collides with truck

which basically pushes it and shish

[frozen scroll]

That one ya, i had something like that happen with the crashed ship from code rebirth it scooped me out

[meager tiger]

if @rich ice would be to make an item that players can collide with i'd suggest MiscLevelGeometry

because it doesn't do too much whacky stuff

and other items go through it

[gaunt turret]

ngl without zooming in. it looked like snot lmao

[fervent robin]

yeah i thought boom just sent like a picture of an amoeba or some shit

[gaunt turret]

lmao yeah

[rare gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-bye-speed-gif-11879889234416324724

you made a missile

[meager tiger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191216802005528647/1504532254209347604/cQi7YAuUJHAkTyO6VGaJDqirVplN6c1s40E4JCN8k18.gif

[rich ice]

😭 I can also just retire it. It was fun to just stacking logs on top of each other, but uh, I guess it's still not very uh, friendly otherwise 😭 mb gang

[rich ice]

also yeah 😭 I was so confused before reading the context, of what i was being shown a picture of a cell 😭

[rare gyro]

melanie why did you turn all tjos people into goop with your blender

[rare gyro]

[fossil kelp]

did this ever get answered?

[rich ice]

oh yeah, I want to fix that soon. Which I probably can after I done this other thing (though I'm also in DST phase, so don't expect super quick 😭). But yeah, rn I just doing the interiors thing, it's basically done, but I want to do some cleanup. Then I can continue doing more with it later

[cerulean roost]

THE INTERIORS O.O

[calm adder]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-mcu-exhale-thanos-infinity-stone-gif-16660976

"I probably can when I done with this other thing"

[rich ice]

😭 NOOOOO, THIS IS TRUE

[regal thistle]

Do you have any direct plans for the NPC system that you created and are developing?

It would be interesting to have random encounters of NPCs on sell moons (including modded if supported), moon exteriors and dungeon interiors, hell a safe zone tile that can generate in the interior that has a random shop would be insane to experience. Can create specific gameplay incentives.

[rich ice]

depends on if you mean for the API or the actual NPC content mod. As far as NPCs defaulted on moons or on tiles in an interior, if somebody creating a moon or interior wanted, they can add one on a tile or on the moon. I have actually considered experimenting seeing about adding one to mine (and make it configurable in case peopel don't like it). I'm pretty sure I also could externally inject stuff, but I'd only really do that for vanilla interiors, as to not be invasive, unless I made a separate add-on mod or config for it or something for modded interiors.

That said, random encounters aren't interior tile-based, maybe I can add something for that. It would be cool

[oak chasm]

This documentation was brought to you by Melanie & Co

[rich ice]

NOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

it should have been big mommy arch 😔

[dry merlin]

I don't mind Big Daddy NPC if it chokeholds giants and eyeless dogs that go inside the ship.

[rich ice]

WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING

[woven jay]

I see mell you just wanted me to add this for you thanks for the redirection

[rich ice]

NO I SAID DNO'T LOOK AT MY THREAD

NOOOOOOOOO

it's so over 😔

[neat rapids]

goonologist

[rich ice]

goonocologist even

you know, 4 minutes after, I'm realizing why I'm not helping beat the allegations

[brisk widget]

still wont

[rare gyro]

i thought i KNEW YOu…. Now youre a NOBODY to me… a no-melanie…

what other twisted secrets does mel hide deep within her mods…

[oak chasm]

@honest ledge no, you put that back

[honest ledge]

[rich ice]

HEY EXCUSE, WHAT WAS IT

you'll never guess what I just won

[willow nexus]

Mel I dont even need to clip your messages

[honest ledge]

The ⭐ on big daddy arch screenshot

Enjoy

I'm gonna slur in bannable way, and my connection decides to send it immediately lmao

There we go

[rich ice]

HEY

THE QUESTION STILL STANDS

[gilded stone]

Did you try using that screw down there? The one you borrowed from your Aunt in New York?

[rare gyro]

plunger

https://tenor.com/view/toilet-smash-youtube-toilet-plunger-brake-plunger-broken-gif-25565687

[junior rose]

she is the screw

anyway she did

it did not end well

[calm adder]

you must be a burglin gnome and have a giant naked old man throw you into it

[neat rapids]

is this real life

[quaint oxide]

or Is this just fantasy?

[meager tiger]

caught in a landslide

[sly steppe]

no escape from reality

[meager tiger]

open your eyes

[sly steppe]

look up to the skies

[meager tiger]

and see

[sly steppe]

IM JUST A POOR BOY

[meager tiger]

I NEED NO SYMPATHY

[calm adder]

because I'm easy come easy go

[wary parcel]

Hello 👋 I have some issues with your interiors, as stated in this discussion on
#modding-general message

With your mod activated and LLL 1.7.1, I simply can't land on a moon :/

[rich ice]

oh, hi, yeah, that's my bad. I'm about to upload a fix for it, I just want to do a little bit of tweaking and testing

that's my favorite part of the song

[rich ice]

oh yeah, since we already broke the seal of the song
I guess I can post changelogs now

Melanie Interiors 1.2.0

• Technically unfinished update, more is planned, and balancing... iono... just noticed I'm more focused on game-playing phase at the moment, and wanted to at least push out update to fix interiors for v80+.
• Added a few extra tiles to mausoleum.
• Added urns to mausoleum with an interact for a chance to get bones the first time.
• Updated lighting to try prevent flickering issues.
• Slightly updated t-rex bone models to have more sharp edges.
• Added config to enable or disable interiors added to prevent loading associated bundles.
• Updated DunGen references for v80+ updates.
• Now (partially) using JLL (I'll get more familiar with what it has later).
  1.2.1
• Fixed an issue caused on my end with how I did door sockets weirdly, causing an incompatbility (and breaking) DawnLib on specifically the latest LLL (my bad gang). tHaNkS Xu Xiaolan for locating the issue and what I had to fix

[wary parcel]

Thank you, can't wait to test your interiors!

[warm nest]

dine+museum experience

[rich ice]

holy

I hope you know you gotta get all 619

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-kitten-tail-suck-tail-gif-21243409

[warm nest]

imagine getting this with daily quota mod ||6000 scrap to complete daily quota||

[rare gyro]

why he sucky

[fervent robin]

jesus fucking christ

[rich ice]

to get more lucky

[rare gyro]

he sucky to get more lucky...

https://tenor.com/view/cat-drink-pacifier-gif-2926582936289765743

but he wasnt up all night to get lucky?

[rich ice]

the consequence is yucky 😔

[rare gyro]

that sounds quite mucky.

[rich ice]

OH yeah, y'all, guess what

a friend of mine's first moon came out 😀

I wonder who the friend is, if only the forward showed a link to the thread which also had his name on it...

[rare gyro]

its jeefs jilly jods

[fervent robin]

thank you for shouting out my moon melanie you're so awesome!...............

[oak sand]

I just tried the Coralation moon and it is SO COOL.

[rich ice]

Melanie 2024 memories

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1221620488359383152/1233956330662793337/StarDrop.png?ex=6a16f4a3&is=6a15a323&hm=c8fd7c3839cebb4572e480378bebc79db69879edf7d931f83ece2de284aefe4a&

[rare gyro]

i

I dont even

I have no words

[scenic haven]

The lunxara server that one time:

[fervent robin]

Excuse Me?

[rich ice]

the poop and pee incident #238

[old lava]

Anyone got problem with climbing the 2nd ladder when using 2storyship and Widership combination?

[neat rapids]

Xbox, find and give me the recipe

[gaunt turret]

@rich ice soo is optimiszing the 2nd story mod on the roadmap?. as the mod does take away about 20 / 30 fps

[rich ice]

😭 okay I'll finally do it like, right now

[rich ice]

I have wanted to do an entire rework of 2SS at some point. A weird thing is the frames issue with the 3 stories (at least where I'm able to reliably reproduce frame drops) has only been in a couple of the last updates for it. But yeah

[rich ice]

okay, fun fact about the ladder thing. Yes, I delayed checking things AGAIN until a little bit ago 😭. But uh, it seems it might actually be something else than what I thought, was causing the issue. Which also explains the change that happened around the time this ladder issue started happening

and also it's probably a similar thing to what caused the sudden frame drops, but for some reason, only with 3 stories(+), and no, it isn't because of an optimization thing (nothing changed there from before and after it started happening)

okay I'll stop ambiguously describing it, it's probably a reverb trigger thing

so I'm just going to re-adjust those again and see if things still happen

[rich ice]

okay, here you go

2-sToRy ShIp 2.2.8

• Added inside ship positions for masked and LethalBots (tHaNkS T-Rizzle).
• Fixed framerate drop issue appearing past few updates (here you go @gaunt turret and other people, it was a reverb trigger thing, but still tell me if you somehow get it still).
• Fixed ladder climbing for wider 2-story ship's second ladder, once the ship has fully landed or is still in orbit (here you go @calm adder and @old lava, but tell me if you still get it when fully landed or in orbit).

[gaunt turret]

I'll see if my frames are better rq

[rich ice]

uhhh, you'll have to manually download and install unless you wait for the mod manager apps (assuming you're using them) update

which usually takes about an hour after upload

[gaunt turret]

Right...

Okay with the latest version of it (non vr) i get around 100 fps (Outside). Now let me switch to an older version (Previous one)

Oh yeah. and this window here does not get affected when you toggle the shutters

and it does have some issues with some outside models 🤷

aswell as this ladder here does NOT work at all

it shows the Interaction prompt but it doesn't do anything

[gaunt turret]

I genuinely dont see an major fps increase in this case, as i screenshotted when i got my lowest fps on the prev version ☠️

[rich ice]

I guess orbit here is still a bit buggy, but when fully landed that should work again

[rich ice]

it definitely at least solved the issue on my end, since before, I had noticed some extreme cases of sudden frame drops and lagspikes, which I haven't had after the changes

[gaunt turret]

Yeah i can say for sure that frame drops are fixed 👍

[rich ice]

other 2 things, tbh, kind of just the result of me doing a rush job on adding the shipwindows roof thing, since uh, I didn't feel like editing the shutters thing or moving the lights quite yet 😔

mAyBe i'LL dO iT wHeN i'M dOnE tHiS oThEr ThInG

[gaunt turret]

I did also have 2 games open at the same time soo.. Yeah!

[gaunt turret]

is it making the npc vr compatible? 👀

[fervent robin]

guy who's entire personality is lethal company vr:

[rich ice]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/779196945448304640/1364708570355990538/togif.gif?ex=6a180526&is=6a16b3a6&hm=54a3ed144122d8e97ad1b11447a749e268e8d7bd6d6949abc118a56d3471ff6f&

[gaunt turret]

Yeah. because no-one else is doing it. might aswell be the one thats brings it yk

Anyway. if you can. set this to. After post-process

[rich ice]

huh, I'm not ship windows dev 😭

I'm also not niche tweaks

[fervent robin]

I know, but being so insistent on it is making people less likely to do it because it's all you ask about 😭

[gaunt turret]

hm. okay good to know. i'll let the dev of that mod know about it

[gaunt turret]

Because its not much to ask for ☠️

[rich ice]

uhhhhhh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/779196945448304640/1364708570355990538/togif.gif?ex=6a180526&is=6a16b3a6&hm=54a3ed144122d8e97ad1b11447a749e268e8d7bd6d6949abc118a56d3471ff6f&

[gaunt turret]

If its not custom interaction that is

[rich ice]

which speaking of, at some point, I guess I can try to see about the UI VR compat, but I can't make any promises 😭. aka if it's just as simple as adding an extra component, I'll be happy, but if it's more complicated, expect 3 years delay 😭

but uhhh, I just meant I'm going to do chores rn 😭

[gaunt turret]

Yeah. no UI in vr are quite complicated

[fervent robin]

I think it's fairly straight forward, but it's also not gonna immediately fix everything in the mod

Oh for UI i have no idea

[gaunt turret]

Good thing is that lcvr is open source so

maybe taking an look at how it does the death UI on the left of your hand

its kinda like an watch

[rich ice]

references definitely make things easier, though hardest part is I can never test it myself 😭, so I'd make the update, and then uh, you'd have to test it once it's out

but yeah, still no promises, I also have a lot of other things I like to put my mind to, but I'll try to keep it in mind

[gaunt turret]

Yk you dont have to post the update for me to test 👀

I'll see if i can find an reference

[rich ice]

anyways, while you get that, I go chores time, and won't be seeing all replies

[fervent robin]

melanie STINKS

heh. she'll never know

[gaunt turret]

#1201165935428522057 message <-- Image source, heres the Spectator's UI screen thats attached to the players Left hand when they look at it

[neat rapids]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1067412952602378310/1140347892633190520/caption-4-1.gif

[copper sage]

get replied, nerd.

[silver oracle]

is there anyway to make this side straight?

[calm adder]

works in orbit not when landed 019e6b86-673a-d19a-c6b3-6a43f1dea6cf

[versed walrus]

So uh. Sitting on the second floor in vow? Kinda invites feiopars to aggro on you

So you can infact bait them

[gaunt turret]

Why would you even want that?

[silver oracle]

So it can be even like the other side

[versed walrus]

https://tenor.com/bKZDz.gif

[rich ice]

HEY

[rich ice]

not atm unfortunately

[rich ice]

weird, I'll check in a bit. But an interesting question. Once you have fully landed (aka the ship is no longer moving), and since you also are using wider + 2ss, if you still can't climb, if you jump back down to the lower balcony, re-climb the first ladder, is the second suddenly able to be used again? I found that to be the case for me, until I made some changes, which fixed it on my end

[gaunt turret]

Do you have ocd?. not being mean but it doesnt seem to bother anyone else except you it seems

[silver oracle]

idk

[fervent robin]

im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry

[rich ice]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-regret-angry-sad-kitty-gif-7093329596738369604

you rn

[fervent robin]

i am evil creature......

[calm adder]

CORRECT (weird as fuck but correct)

[chilly silo]

Strange thing I noticed, however with the bigger extended front porch there seems to cause MAJOR lag spikes occasionally. I can take a video if needed but overall it's causing frame drops like crazy, idk if the navmesh was repaired?

Just wanted to bring it to light

[rich ice]

OH yeah, my bad, I reverted some reverb trigger changes for the ship I did, but didn't actually proceed to update the uh, ones for when the front balcony is there, uhhh. I guess I'll try fix that in a bit. Pretty sure you can also get like ReverbTriggerFix or something to help with that, too

[chilly silo]

I could install it and let you know, but I'm worried about my friend's potato of a PC

Lemme give that a shot tbh, I didn't know it was an audio reverb, strange

It's working to an extent — definitely an improvement in terms of performance but haven't tested a few runs or company building yet

[summer sky]

Hello Melanie,
your interiors are working in VR.
I did found a minor bug when I decided to ||dig the graves|| in the Mausoleum.
A bunch of pink particles appeared after ||digging around||.
I don't even know if this is a VR-Shader issue or the Shader is completely missing.

[rare gyro]

vr tends to not work with some particles for some reason

[rich ice]

uh... there's also a chance I just messed up the particles since I made a change to it after testing, and didn't retest that specific part

[shut sail]

@rich ice my friend @sage sleet and I noticed that dogs have trouble navigating upstairs because they enter the small storage room to the side of the doors. It's a small issue but can be exploited. Would you mind checking it out? Thanks in advance and you are awesome 😃

(Sorry for 2 pings I had to repost the message to ping the right person)

[worn escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-w-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-deleted-gif-25440636

[rich ice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1215504486190293093/1450648664119967744/image.png?ex=6a1cd4d9&is=6a1b8359&hm=df1b0ed4e3bd6f09d53420d10ac45b2531eb503ba6bed38a246a3dbe022ce47e&

I SAW THE FIRST

I HAVE SEEN EVERYTHING

[shut sail]

NO, NOT MY FAILURE TO PING A FRIEND 😭

[worn escarp]

we all saw it

[shut sail]

https://tenor.com/view/british-cop-screaming-screaming-sad-gif-10576833416044093400

[worn escarp]

40k people in the server

every single one

[rich ice]

but yeah, I'll check it out. I'm assuming on the base 2-story, since I tend to do most my testing on the wider + 2-story ngl 😭, and wider has room for dogs to walk around. I'll definitely play around with adjusting the navmesh to fix that. Thanks for the report!

[shut sail]

Yes, we saw it happening on normal 2 story

[rich ice]

SHHH

I DIDN'T SEND A GIF BY ACCIDENT

[shut sail]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-w-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-deleted-gif-25440636

[rich ice]

NOOOOO

[grizzled fox]

who up getting pinged by accident

[shut sail]

Nooooo 😭

[rich ice]

YEAHHHHHHH

[shut sail]

Sorry, my friend has very similar nickname

[grizzled fox]

its algds lmaoo

[rich ice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1215504486190293093/1468580298748072088/scaredcat.gif?ex=6a1ccebc&is=6a1b7d3c&hm=af2e95f09ab3615bdd96fa64e0b35eee602f288bad385a00ba22219f35ea6d25&

you rn

[shut sail]

https://tenor.com/view/pianistchenle-cat-cry-gif-sad-sobbing-crying-unhappy-gif-22350516

[shut sail]

On a side note, the ladder on 2ss + wider on the 2nd floor outside is unclimbable. Had to climb there by going on top of an old bird to get my friend scrap because I am cool and awesome 😎

Basically tapping E doesn't make you climb it

[rich ice]

weird, does jumping down and re-climbing the first one after fully landed fix it? Either way, turns out fix I tried for it is still inconsistent 😭 (fix I did isn't the jumping down thing)

also update, yeah, I see the navmesh issue which causes dogs to get stuck. Time to fix 😀

[shut sail]

😄

We also experienced very weird dog behaviour on 2ss + wider as:

1. A dog went inside and got stuck in the top right corner or the corner to the right of the lever (same corner)

2. When a dog walks close to a magnet they can get stuck in the right wall behind a magnet?

[rich ice]

uhhhhh

maybe the dogs are magnetic...

[shut sail]

Both issues seem to maybe be related with NavMesh being too close or in the wall? No idea. But it seems like they just clipped into the wall and got stuck.

[rich ice]

I'll play around with it more ig 😭, I never managed to get this, uhhhh, any specific moon and were they chasing or wandering?

I tend to uhhh, test by chasing bc fast 😭

[shut sail]

(As fun fact we were playing in 12 people and most people died to dogs in ship which basically painted it red as if there was some mass genocide)

[shut sail]

Dine, the 1st was lunging and 2nd just walked but should also work if angered

IMPORTANT!

The ship DID have a Windows mod

If that makes a difference

No idea, never modded this game 😭

The windows with shutters to be exact

[rich ice]

oh I think I might see what's causing this, I did a change to navmesh recently, and it's connecting the outside and inside rn, through the walls

so dogs are probably seeing a path but are blocked, bc of that

I didn't notice this when I changed it 😀

[shut sail]

Also uhh

On both 2ss with and without wider mod you can use bunkbeds to clip out of ship bounds

You just have to walk into a corner or near a wall, jump and place the bunkbed on yourself

And it just clips you

You can try it

But it could also be a window mod if that makes a difference

[rich ice]

tbh I think I'm okay with that one since people have to deliberately do it for it to happen, but uh, I do think I know what would prevent it

[shut sail]

Maybe a fix config?

So people who play more open lobbies can prevent it?

I can see it being annoying

[rich ice]

oooh open lobbies, right

I guess I can add it, test if it works. It shouldn't be too hard, assuming my idea does work

[shut sail]

Uhhh I think that would be all?

Cewl mod, keep up the good work. Very puuurfect ship.

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hyppy-gif-9091438043443803258

[rich ice]

that'll be $29.99 please come again

[shut sail]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-cat-surprised-gif-5843462

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bills-bill-confused-cute-gif-9327192660005731683

[near storm]

what if there were two magnets instead of one since the ship is now much larger?

[real lotus]

no vehicle right now would support this out the box

it would require custom compatibility on vehicle creators ends

[chilly silo]

A few enemies are glitched for the stairs as well like the Bracken

My friends keep thinking that they’re safe on the second and third stories. I wanna prove them wrong.

[near storm]

Then is there a way to attach more vehicles than one to the single already existing magnet without any collision or other issues?

[worn escarp]

Nope

[rich ice]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kat-kitty-kitten-evil-gif-10545349572153573100

I'll update soon, just had to go for a while and couldn't test things

[chilly silo]

Oh all g do your thing

I know modding takes time

[rare gyro]

mevilanie mevilicous

[rich ice]

sadly my idea to fix it uh, didn't work. I'll probably push the update in just a bit, I just want to edit the reverb triggers once again, for if there's an extended balcony via another report

[shut sail]

Also is there any way to fix extended porch being weird?

Where it doesn't count as ship anymore?

[rich ice]

uhhhh, doesn't count, like it pushes you off or something? I thought I fixed that unless I accidentally reverted that in the recent update (before this next one)

[shut sail]

I just remember the old times where if the ship launched anyone who was on extension would just be abandoned

And wouldn't move with the ship and they would be pushed against the railing

[rich ice]

it should be fixed then I think, since I've made an update to fix that

[shut sail]

I will try it out

[frozen scroll]

It is fixed

I don't get sucked of the ship unless the wither storm says otherwise

[shut sail]

True

[shut sail]

Melanie dropped the update!

@rich ice how does it feel when I annouced the update before you?

https://tenor.com/view/devious-evil-cat-devious-evil-cat-gif-13662346222156832155

[worn escarp]

she dont care

[shut sail]

shhhhh, can't you see I am trying to be nonchalant?

Ekhem

HAHAHAAH

[worn escarp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/974101195545280542/1465040374824173679/tongueAnimations.gif

[rich ice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1069409593689645106/1355086726879645726/caption.gif?ex=6a1de29b&is=6a1c911b&hm=7c4a007806fd1ccd7e02ac81b454f0a8ce1849c7ff4394d9ba81a7dde004b80b&

[shut sail]

Being serious tho, Thx melanie you are the best!

[rich ice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1069409593689645106/1355086726879645726/caption.gif?ex=6a1de29b&is=6a1c911b&hm=7c4a007806fd1ccd7e02ac81b454f0a8ce1849c7ff4394d9ba81a7dde004b80b&

[rich ice]

me trying to stop myself sending it a third time

[shut sail]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cat-kitten-funny-smirk-gif-11080875160047480376

[worn escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/shawn-breezy-cat-kill-first-gif-2386988295549093398

[chilly silo]

LETS GOOOOOO

[rich ice]

okay I found 1 bug thanks to @copper sage, I uh, ended up returning the vanilla ship's colliders, so you can't enter new parts of the ship if you don't have ship windows 😭. With ShipWindows, it works perfectly find though, since it already disables those colliders on its end

[copper sage]

https://klipy.com/gifs/tom-and-jerry-thanks

[worn escarp]

pipsi

[shut sail]

So you made the ship unusable? Typical melanie malicious

[frozen scroll]

I was about to report on that nvm :3 so ShipWindows?

[shut sail]

@rich ice now there seems to be an issue where IF a dog gets inside the storage compartment it will stop moving entirely preventing them from wandering off unless they are agroed

Also while lunging the dog got stuck like this and now is irresposible to any noise inside the ship

It's basically the same issue I described with the 2ss + wider

That's how it looks from the outside

No moving the teminal does not fix it

[rich ice]

😭 yeah, my test pack has ShipWindows on it, so I never got the issue on my end, but then Pepsi doesn't, so it did the issue 😭

[rich ice]

uhhhh, funky, I uh, can't look into it too much right now, so next patch will just be to fix the collider bug. But I'll try look into it after

[shut sail]

dw

[frozen scroll]

Relogging seems to always do this

my teleporter is in the pink room from the pocket rooms, the doorway is in the miside house and the miside teleporter is upstairs, teleporting bugs, giving an unrelated error [Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object Stack trace: com.github.zehsteam.ImmersiveEntrance.Patches.TimeOfDay_Patches.SetInsideLightingDimness_Patch (TimeOfDay __instance) (at ./Patches/TimeOfDay_Patches.cs:28) (wrapper dynamic-method) TimeOfDay.DMD<TimeOfDay::SetInsideLightingDimness>(TimeOfDay,bool,bool) (wrapper dynamic-method) ShipTeleporter+<beamUpPlayer>d__41.DMD<ShipTeleporter+<beamUpPlayer>d__41::MoveNext>(ShipTeleporter/<beamUpPlayer>d__41) UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <c39a522eee05469b8171a6cfeb646c59>:IL_0026)

Note i have reset the config of 2 story ship twice and it fixes it temporarily

019e8255-af5d-2bbf-6799-df96aebeed35 My modpack if needed

[pale rover]

Yo Melanie, I have a suggestion/request, but I'm not sure if this is the correct place to talk about it.

[rich ice]

uhhh question, is this code pre or post config reset? I disabled a lot of content mods, and didn't reproduce it. So I just need to make sure whether or not I couldn't reproduce from what I removed, or this being the config reset one. Mainly so I can decide if I need to try again without disabling any mods

[rich ice]

yeah, this is the place to talk about it

[pale rover]

Kool. Could we possibly get the string lights enabled on the 2nd/3rd floors? 🙏 It gets quite dark up there with the lights off

[rich ice]

you know, I've had this requested a few times, I always say maybe I'll finally do it, and then proceed to not 😭. But I'm going to break the cycle, I'm opening up my projects right now

[pale rover]

Fantastic, Thank you!

[shut sail]

What if Melanie was made from gummies and was named Melanie Delicious?

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

It's funny how Melanie has one of the most punnable names because there are so many words similar

[shut sail]

Melanie Malicious

https://tenor.com/view/devious-evil-cat-devious-evil-cat-gif-13662346222156832155

[shut sail]

@rich ice I think I found a new bug!

Or I guess performance issue

The left one is on the normal porch near the railing with normal FPS, the right one is near the railing on the extended porch it KILLS FPS

No idea why I am gonna test if its something else by disabling the porch

[rich ice]

I love the instinct to play with people's name 😭

[rich ice]

oooh, I guess I gotta fine-tune the uh, FPS drop thing I did. I did a patch for it, but I guess I didn't fully check all the areas after it, I just noticed I didn't get it in the areas I usually check 😭. Question, does ReverbTriggerFix happen to fix it

[shut sail]

I don't use it but I can try adding it

I will test it later today

[chilly silo]

BASED

[chilly silo]

"I used the mods to destroy the mods"

[frozen scroll]

post config reset, but if your not getting the error well shit

[chilly silo]

Odd question, is the NavMesh bugged for enemies with the extended cat walk? They seem to be walking under the ship

[rich ice]

I actually don't change the navmesh with extended catwalk (because I was lazy). If enemies are not going into the ship, does this occur on every moon? Or just some (since on my end, with vanilla moon testing, enemies seem to path in fine)

[gaunt turret]

Let me guess you get an insane fps drop near the ship's left ladder?

I believe this has nothing todo with Mel's mods, as i experience that even with only lcvr and dawnlib

[shut sail]

Nope. It's near the railing all over the extended porch

being near ladder has nothing to do with it as you can see in the screenshot I was closer to the ladder and got my stable 40 FPS as a host

[rich ice]

okay, things I need to test/finish/look into

• custom crafting and cooking recipe configs (test and potential cleanups)
• 2-story + wider 2-story cozy lights (finish and test)
• remaining (likely reverb trigger) lag with extended catwalk (look into)
• MIGHT look into just adding that extra navmesh part for the extended catwalk. My main issue with trying it is if it might make enemies either really clunky, or struggle to get onto the ship in some moons. But I think I know how to prevent that

tbh, with a lot of the ship big fixes recently, maybe I can finally get to re-organizing everything to clean it up and you know, make it easier for me to navigate 😭

but uh, I also gotta do some vehicle stuff actually, so...

(and despite this, I'm still actually not in like, focused modding phase 😭 I still am doing other things more)

[gaunt turret]

You mean yes then

[calm adder]

I haven't tried the cooking mod yet does the employee become fat from eating?

[chilly silo]

It occurs on every moon, especially with Masked and Flowerman

ALSO

Do the new interiors (mausoleum/museum) work? With DawnLib as well?

The mausoleum looks so cool but I haven't had the chance to experience it yet

[shut sail]

No?

[shut sail]

I mean no because your example is wrong

[rich ice]

so I need a bit of clarification, are enemies, for you, able to get into the ship at all? Like, if you're not standing on the extended balcony, and instead just inside the ship, or on the normal bounds. If you're inside the normal ship and they still can't manage to get in by any means, then I need a modpack profile code.

Also (not new), the interiors should work. The 2 recent updates were to make sure they function properly, and I even did a mini test just a little bit earlier, seeing as a couple different interiors were having trouble, and I wanted to make sure it wasn't happening on mine

[gaunt turret]

Its also directional

[shut sail]

I don't get lag near the ladder. I get lag when I come close to a railing from extended porch and it does not matter which way I look

[rich ice]

I'll be a bit of extra clarification (just to make sure), extended porch refers to the config that lets the front porch go 3 units farther (which isn't near the ladder)

[rich ice]

also, no, BUT I SHOULD TOTALLY ADD THIS AS A CONFIG

and another config that makes it so you also get slower, but have more max health 😭

[shut sail]

Yeah

[gaunt turret]

There are multiple causes for simliar issue with lag

[calm adder]

Note this is an old idea I had in mod ideas a while ago gl

[chilly silo]

They can get in the ship overall, let's say, if I'm in the shop or on the normal catwalk yes. It's if/when I interact with the extended catwalk is where I receive issues. Also the interiors work thanks

Mausoleum is peak

[solar hawk]

im not sure if this is intended, but you can pseudo-infinitely increase the value of a hammer by just melting it back into a bar, and then remaking it with a pole (which is extremely cheap)

[rich ice]

😨 oh my bad

wait a minute...

HAMMER STACKING META

LES GOOOOO

[solar hawk]

that is true within 2 days we managed a 5k hammer

[shut sail]

Melanie Hamericious

[rich ice]

holy, pair this into bread stacking meta, and you'll be unstoppable

[rich ice]

IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN, H-HELP HELPPPP

[shut sail]

Melanie Breadicious

Melanie Helpicious

[shut sail]

That's a mimic btw

@rich ice

Same spot as the dog

If I had to guess this whole spot has navmesh and it makes them walk through the stuff

[rich ice]

oh that is also evil 😭, tbh I didn't account for that area, I'll uh, make that spot unwalkable

[shut sail]

Melanie Patchicious

Melanie Navmeshious

[rich ice]

it never ends 😭

[shut sail]

They cannot walk out of there as well

Melanie Mimicious

Just like dogs

[rich ice]

the not walking out I'm not sure about, I'll have to look a bit more into it. But hopefully just making them not able to get there in the first place fixes it 😭 hopefully

[shut sail]

Melanie Hopeicious

[rich ice]

Melanie Mimicious
Just like dogs

the curse

[shut sail]

Melanie Cursious

Melanie Curious

Melanie Boomboxious

Melanie Shovelous

Melanie Brackenous

[copper sage]

Mel

[shut sail]

Portal Stories: Mel

[worn escarp]

😭

[gaunt turret]

Actually hate how this is an actual game 😭

IT has VR support!!

[worn escarp]

revolution and reloaded are better hehe

:3

[gaunt turret]

Vr better

[worn escarp]

tho mel is a classic

oh right you are the vr guy i forgot

[gaunt turret]

😱

[frozen scroll]

Its a good game i recommend

[gaunt turret]

I know. i have played it before

Prob not the most time there but

[frozen scroll]

same i was suggested 3 portal fan games and each time i downloaded them i beat them day one

[worn escarp]

protato

[frozen scroll]

Portal reloaded tho

[gaunt turret]

oh bruh 💀

[frozen scroll]

hehehe i am a potato

[rare gyro]

grotato

[frozen scroll]

Potato

[worn escarp]

i have no fucking idea how this potato beat reloaded in one sitting bruh

took me weeks to beat

[frozen scroll]

I locked in thats how

[versed walrus]

add milk

via adding a cow

[calm adder]

it's just a reskinned eyeless dog that drops hamburger meat

[versed walrus]

and if you stealth it. you can milk

to acquire milk

[calm adder]

yes

[versed walrus]

or if your crazy

just beat the shit out of it and survive

[calm adder]

stun grenades gonna go crazy too

[versed walrus]

pikmin

[calm adder]

ngl mod ideas is lowkey just the competitive shitpost section