shaggy mains just want to have fun with a lil chaos
#altMoons
versed bramble
steel rover
Hello! Is there any chance to remove the BlindPup dependency?
I'd like to have it for my modpack but a lot of people complained when adding the blind pup on other moons :']
proud swift
Hello! Is there any chance to remove the BlindPup dependency?
I'd like to have i...
its a soft dependency, you can just remove it and it wont break anything
steel rover
its a soft dependency, you can just remove it and it wont break anything
When adding it into a modpack. It will auto install
And when removing it, it will ask to remove the moons, even if it's not a forced dependency
tacit anvil
you can still choose to remove only that specific mod, but it is true that it'll mess w modpack stuff
it would be nice if it had a config or something
(blindpups I mean)
steel rover
The thing is that blind pups doesn't have a good config, It will always have a chance to spawn on all moons
And people don't want them to spawn on exp
proud swift
When adding it into a modpack. It will auto install
ill think on it. blindPups is supposed to get a config soon (afaik its just dmg but spawns might be added as well) and its the "intended balance" but ik most people dont really dig it. its tagged to spawn on canyon and wasteland iirc, and then dirge as well
thats up to autumnis in the end but it has been brought up to them before
tacit anvil
yeah I think the big issue with blindPups is that there's no way to control where they spawn, and if they spawn on a moon with mineshaft you just can't play the game at all
proud swift
you can kinda say the same of barbers
tacit anvil
issue is barbers don't usually spawn on mineshaft moons
tacit anvil
but sierra and a bunch of canyon/wasteland moons just kinda have mineshaft a ton of the time
proud swift
true !
misty ravine
i love blind pups but yeah they're really oppressive. i think smaller noise range and no instakill would make it more fair
lavish peak
thats up to autumnis in the end but it has been brought up to them before
i haven't found someone to beg to code it for me yet
misty ravine
issue is barbers don't usually spawn on mineshaft moons
hehe
misty ravine
you moon devs will be the Death of me!!!
quite literally!
proud swift
eats rock
tacit anvil
TEMPER that was the name of autumnis' moon FUCK that took me like
hidden sapphire
issue is barbers don't usually spawn on mineshaft moons
Attenuation:
lavish peak
TEMPER that was the name of autumnis' moon FUCK that took me like
there you go
misty ravine
i haven't found someone to beg to code it for me yet
there are so many people in this server you could beg
tacit anvil
Attenuation:
im gonna kill all of you with rocks and debris and such
tacit anvil
there are so many people in this server you could beg
just look at biodiversity
😏
my ass did not beg (too much) and damn i'm surprised so many people wanted to work with me for free
misty ravine
wont someone PLEASE make a soldier out of wax for me....
tacit anvil
sometimes I just lay in bed and think about it and cry a little
maybe even vomit a bit
misty ravine
heartwarming ❤️🔥
misty ravine
tacit anvil
wait nick... now that you're here I remembered that I could use your moon for my super endgame constellation and increase the length of the day w that one mod whitespike made...
hooray!!!
misty ravine
this news is pleasing....
tacit anvil
I was tryina think of snowy moons to put there and suddenly I remembered yours!!!
I'll probably still tweak spawns but I'm excited to give it a try once again 
misty ravine
update coming soon i promise..... definitely before wesley updates
misty ravine
yeah but that's 10pm WST
steel rover
So, there will be still dogs inside?
proud swift
So, there will be still dogs inside?
its what i balanced it for but ill probably just remove it as a soft dependency with the next update, and make it more like toystore/bioD/football etc are where its strongly recommended instead
steel rover
I see, thanks!
main condor
Yeah the dogs inside are neat on Dirge but the mod has no limiter on where they can spawn as best as I can tell
so they just show up randomly and on many moons they're kind of completely untenable
I'd rather not have to redesign my entire pack around the rare chance there might be a dog inside on most moons
tacit anvil
yea
regal island
what do y'all think of altmoons?
misty ravine
good
tacit anvil
peak
misty ravine
regal sparrow
what do y'all think of altmoons?
https://tenor.com/view/crygup-yummers-its-yummers-reddit-slot-machine-reddit-gif-3043316022607177622
lavish peak
phaedra and pelagia with the blizzard from lethal elements
tip: never go to pelagia with blizzard ever, all the quicksand is invisible
rare mauve
@proud swift #1268919667347427390 message thought you might want to fix this. Check everything in "babywalls" and every capsule of each "TrainCarTank"
proud swift
oh hey neat, was wondering how the snow weather would play w these. i got back from a trip yesterday so ill work on this in a bit.
proud swift
phaedra and pelagia with the blizzard from lethal elements
i really like phaedra w blizzard....
lavish peak
phaedra was the only one that actually worked fine with it
proud swift
tip: never go to pelagia with blizzard ever, all the quicksand is invisible
im assuming you mean by "makes the quicksand invis" that it covers the swamp water on pelagia?
lavish peak
yeah
proud swift
isnt it supposed to freeze ice? might just be some mild jank on my end, idk. ill work on it, thanks yumnis
lavish peak
isnt it supposed to freeze ice? might just be some mild jank on my end, idk. ill...
it only freezes water, not quicksand
rare mauve
isnt it supposed to freeze ice? might just be some mild jank on my end, idk. ill...
it freezes water on phaedra
now
proud swift
fixed dirge's jank for lethalElementsBeta, ill push a super small upd8 tonight to remove blindPups soft dep and some fixes.
regal island
fixed dirge's jank for lethalElementsBeta, ill push a super small upd8 tonight t...
what moon is this?
Looks cool
near geyser
what moon is this?
it dirge
proud swift
Version 0.3.5
- readme changes (typos)
- removed blindPup soft dependency
- slight interior weight tweaks
Dirge:
- fixed some colliders layers so they dont show up during Lethal Elements snow weathers
- disabled fire exit gimmick
Pelagia:
- fixed tree needles rendering over fog/weather
small lil one, gonna focus on this again after the holidays are over
expect big dirge and pelagia content Soon™️, especially now that i got the scene changing working
boreal minnow
## Version 0.3.5
* readme changes (typos)
* removed blindPup soft dependency
...
btw what happened to those CI models XD(no sweat the project hasnt started yet as weve been nusy)
proud swift
altMoons 0.3.5
proud swift
btw what happened to those CI models XD(no sweat the project hasnt started yet a...
p much the same thing, holidays came sweeping thru and family shit happened. lost a lot of focus on projects im working on lol
boreal minnow
p much the same thing, holidays came sweeping thru and family shit happened. los...
np
lavish peak
## Version 0.3.5
* readme changes (typos)
* removed blindPup soft dependency
...
the blind pups.....what have you done.....
proud swift
the blind pups.....what have you done.....
ill always use it tumnis 
tacit anvil
I love altmoons..
tacit anvil
expect big dirge and pelagia content Soon™️, especially now that i got the scene...
oh man that's gonna be siiiick
finite cedar
What was the fire exit gimmick before 0.3.5?
proud swift
What was the fire exit gimmick before 0.3.5?
dirge had 2 fire exits doubled up on eachother on the outside, making it have functionally 2 inside fire exits but only 1 outside. autumnis showed me it on temper and it burrowed into my brain lol
didnt fit+dirge will get alternate landing scenes w diff fire exit counts so its axed
finite cedar
Ohhhhh I think I've actually observed that once lol
Didn't think much of it at the time
proud swift
that was the intended effect and i still sorta miss it
finite cedar
I mean, not that I think Dirge needs one, but there's always the option to add another fire exit elsewhere
Unless the interior is larger than I realize 🤔 never checked
proud swift
nah its interior size is equal to assurance/offense/embrion at 1.15~, so its not Needed but it sure is Fun. thats why im adding an actual extra fire exit on a diff landing scene.
finite cedar
Sounds sweet. What do you mean by diff landing scene though? I may be slow
proud swift
youre totally fine! lll has a cool feature where it can randomly roll the moon scene, where it can change the outside terrain to a diff one. basically it can let me do stuff like this (phaedra's entire outside on dirge, but still keeping normal dirge as a diff landing site)
so 1 moon could have a ton of diff landing sites to change how it plays completely just based on chance
finite cedar
Oh cool! I had no idea this was a thing wow
lavish peak
that is NOT dirge
boreal minnow
Showcased the moons https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBuGXqLymvSeSSZHWb1Xw7D03LocLWego
sleek crypt
@proud swift any chance you are making these moons compatible with lll hot load? 👀
proud swift
<@97878151182434304> any chance you are making these moons compatible with lll h...
yes! was planning on updating these for the new lll version after i finish being obsessed with the new wes' moons update lol
way, way too fun.
sleek crypt
ah ye, they are out but I personally cba playing the story, I just wanna cruise through and enjoy each new scenery LOL
thanks for the heads up and have fun playin :3
proud swift
thats fair. i can see that style of progression not being everybody's cup of tea. im approaching the end (4~ moons left) so, unless something major happens, altMoons update should be out in a couple weeks (give or take). most of it will be playtesting lol
proud swift
altMoons 0.3.6
Version 0.3.6
- readme changes
- dependency update (hotloooading)
- fixed customStoryLogs not showing up. maybe
- made the skies clear. mrovWeathers-pilled
molten solar
Is there meant to be kinda abrupt kill barriers on Pelagia?
tacit anvil
I think it's supposed to be a sorta force field thingy
proud swift
Is there meant to be kinda abrupt kill barriers on Pelagia?
its intentional. you can see the fence's shimmer. i have an alternate scene of pelagia w no kill barrier and some ai nodes scattered around out there (pelargia) but scene selection is either broken in mp rn or i just didnt set it up correctly
proud swift
does he actually
i mightve borked something optimizing files for hotlording
ill ask him
tacit anvil
I know the map has diff layouts thats abt it lole
proud swift
prolly jll related?
tacit anvil
ahh perhaps
half hound
@proud swift dirge seems to be interfering with my spawn rates
old birds refuse to spawn and i cant prevent blind pups from spawning
can you make a config for the blind pup spawns on your moons?
im trying to keep it as similar to dine as possible on my modpack and i cant find any way to stop the smalldogs from spawning
proud swift
can you make a config for the blind pup spawns on your moons?
blindPups spawning is not controlled on altMoons end, sorry. youd have to bug autumnis about this in their thread. and zero idea whats breaking OB spawns besides it not having the pool size for more than one to spawn (which is intended, more than the solo OB is not enjoyable at all) but that shouldnt be the case.
half hound
fair
i tried to keep it a bit down but i mainly just based it off the dine spawn pool
i assumed the blind pups thing was you because it said blind pups were guaranteed on dirge on the store page
and harvest doesnt seem to have a config
proud swift
from what autumnis mentioned the other day, harvestMoons (by itself) shouldnt spawn blind pups on Dirge, its just the standalone mod thats tagged for dirge. and unfortunately neither have configs. this was a reason it was removed as a dependency in the manifest, some people didnt like em as much but its still "intended".
proud swift
i assumed the blind pups thing was you because it said blind pups were guarantee...
if you do find out anythings on my end please feel free to ping me again, though, and ill work to fix it.
half hound
from what autumnis mentioned the other day, harvestMoons (by itself) shouldnt sp...
it seems to be on harvest's end then because i dont have standalone blind pups installed
half hound
if you do find out anythings on my end please feel free to ping me again, though...
once i playtest bramble a few times ill see if anythings up
other than that it seems to play fine though
also whats with the writing behind dirge's main entrance?
proud swift
also whats with the writing behind dirge's main entrance?
are you referring to the graffiti you can see while landing/taking off? its from a french band, this song in particular https://youtu.be/DFcHoP7RgUs
half hound
yea the graffiti
proud swift
referenced in disco elysium which is what i yoinked the graffiti from lol
half hound
this is a really niche thing to reference i like it a lot lol
half hound
referenced in disco elysium which is what i yoinked the graffiti from lol
OOOH
i havent played this
friend keeps begging me to tho
proud swift
would super recommend, i beat my hardcore playthru late last year and it was possibly the best experience ive had in Years lol
spoiled me on dialogue choices and companion characters
proud swift
you can typically see it thru the door frame when you wipe. it translates to "one day i will be back at your side", which i think is fitting (esp for dirge, whos residents were primarily french)
hope you enjoy the moons
proud swift
all 3 current moons had french offshoot residents as their settlers lol. idk why i did it. phaedra has a bunch of canadians, pelagia is all cajun and creoles, and like i mentioned dirge is primarily full french
half hound
dear god
this means in my modpack creoles invaded an entire jungle nebula and immediately were corrupted by maskeds
lavish peak
infernis and lecaro in the jungle place...
half hound
im gonna be completely honest i had no clue where to put them lol
lecaro i was actually considering placing in crater
but
i felt putting it next to infernis worked better
infernis makes since because at least that one has some sort of ancient theming
idk ive always been iffy on lecaro but idk if theres anywhere better
lavish peak
infernis makes since because at least that one has some sort of ancient theming
i don't see that on infernis
half hound
im mainly thinking like
old rocks, kicking them down to make a bridge
all the various trees scattered around
actually it could possibly fit on crab (tropical nebula) but all the spots are taken
honestly
out of curiousity what is your thoughts on these placements
im gonna be rebalancing them to have a proper difficulty curve ofc but theming wise
the bonus moons can be routed to from any nebula and contain gold scrap btw
super super endgame stuff
lavish peak
if it matters for consideration sierra, fray and temper are canonically all in the same solar system (you can even see sierra during an eclipse on fray)
half hound
that works for sierra and fray buuuut
i did admittedly slap temper all the way in snowball as its free moon because i had no clue where to put it
i didnt wanna replace feign because its a good sister moon to haul
dirge i felt matched dine's "manor but slightly more industrial" get-up
i could maybe replace reign but idk if itd even matter cuz both temper and reign are VERY close to the vanilla snow moons compared to anything else in snowball
im basically stuck with 4 "vanilla" tundras and only 3 slots
lavish peak
this is a fair point but of note: i wouldn't say temper makes for the best free moon, the spawns there are dubious in nature
half hound
oh dw
im redoing all the spawns and loot pools to make a proper difficulty curve like i said
thats why haul is the artifice replacement despite normally being c-tier
tacit anvil
almoons!!!
clear shuttle
Experienced Verdance and Dirge from a modpack earlier! Enjoyed them a lot.
From what I've read Dirge is supposed to have been inhabited my mostly French people, funny that it doesn't have a French name xD
median walrus
Verdance is a LunarLights moon, no?
clear shuttle
Oh oops, yeah
median walrus
🇫
clear shuttle
But yeah Dirge is coolio
proud swift
From what I've read Dirge is supposed to have been inhabited my mostly French pe...
hindsight is 50/50. if i had been smarter i wouldve picked better names, but the naming convention was set in stone With dirge so i kinda shot myself in the foot lmfao
clear shuttle
It's ok x)
Out of all the English words out there, Dirge is one of my favourites. It flows nicely and I love what it represents.
(For anyone wondering, Dirge in French translates to Elégie).
proud swift
(For anyone wondering, Dirge in French translates to Elégie).
neat, didnt actually know this. its alarmingly close to an ocs name i made ages ago so this hits oddly close to home
currently the moons are named after shadow of the colossus fan names lol
proud swift
phaedra, dirge and pelagia in order
proud swift
~~The PTSD Colossus~~
the game over screen is so cash though...
clear shuttle
Good thing Dirge isn't encountered underwater, Jesus
proud swift
i really want to steal the 7th colossus' name, the underwater fish one, but its so close to Hydro (Hydrus)
clear shuttle
the game over screen is so cash though...
It's funny how Dirge and Gaius (imo) look so much more horrific than the rest.
Also, speaking of Colossi
proud swift
It's funny how Dirge and Gaius (imo) look so much more horrific than the rest.
kuromori's is a fave as well
clear shuttle
Avion is French for Plane.
median walrus
Malus finale moon? .3.
proud swift
Malus finale moon? .3.
median walrus
then super SUPER secret moon ||Wander||
proud swift
wander is the name of the last system im planning, no moons currently unlike dormin and mono
malus/evis might be the last moon name though its so tempting...
median walrus
just a towering stone structure in an eternally rainy canyon
at the very bottom, quicksand making up the canyon floor. you can jetpack over it onto cliffs, but there'd be no point
tacit anvil
i really want to steal the 7th colossus' name, the underwater fish one, but its ...
could always go with "Hidros" or "Hidrus"
median walrus
as long as someone has TerminalConflictFIX, moons of close naming will be just fine
if a lethalbundle has the EXACT same name (for example, Fission in Expert Moons and Fission-C in Wesley's Moons both having the bundle name of "fission"), THEN there comes an issue. one of them will be skipped to avoid duplicate entry issues
tacit anvil
as long as someone has TerminalConflictFIX, moons of close naming will be just f...
ye but I think vodka's more worried about the originality of the name rather than name conflicts in the terminalle
median walrus
the only originality you need are ingame moon name and lethalbundle name not matching any others letter for letter
if it were an issue, we wouldnt have Thalasso due to Thalassic, no Celestria due to Celest, no Aquar due to Aquatis, and (at the time) no Asteroid-14 due to Asteroid-13
in hindsight tho, maybe nudging Generic to change "Zenith" to another name because of Tolian's "Zenit" was a dumb move
tacit anvil
the moon's name ain't zenith, or do you mean the bundle name?
median walrus
both
Zenith was eventually renamed to Corrosion
but i wish i kept TerminalConflictFIX in mind at the time
tacit anvil
Zenith was eventually renamed to Corrosion
well ik
Corrosion is the name I know it for, I kinda forgot that it used to be zenith lol
median walrus
Generic put a lot of heart into that moon. he did good
proud swift
ye but I think vodka's more worried about the originality of the name rather tha...
its more or less this, im hydros #1 fan so it seems a lil too close. but im stuck w the names lol so its nbd in the end
median walrus
hmm
idea
petrified version of each colossi on their respective namesake moons
even if only partially visible
Avion would just be encased in an asteroid or something
median walrus
eh?
proud swift
||next few art passes will add just this||
||dirge already has it with the amethyst spine||
median walrus
||fuckin pog||
||i may need to update the icon then||
||make your own company moon ala Galetry, collect a unique scrap from each moon, plug em in on said company moon, unlock final moon||
||(not serious)||
proud swift
||make your own company moon ala Galetry, collect a unique scrap from each moon,...
||ive been approached abt adding wesley moons compatibility/progression ;^)||
median walrus
||ive been approached abt adding wesley moons compatibility/progression ;^)||
||excellence||
median walrus
after revisiting Pelagia, is there supposed to be a barrier that instantly KO's you?
tacit anvil
mhm!
it's supposed to be visible, idk if it is on all sides in the public version
but last time I tested they were visible
its supposed to be an electric fence
ebon wraith
@proud swift finally adding these for tomorrow, dunno if you ever did the balance changes you wanted to do or not idc I want more moons for Generic's new Interior to spawn on 
proud swift
<@97878151182434304> finally adding these for tomorrow, dunno if you ever did th...
theres some stuff cooking for new balance changes but release is fine to play
proud swift
you know who else
tacit anvil
me
weak bison
Is Pelagia still made for Toy Store? Or is the new default interior Storehouse?
In the changelogs it says "interior is SUPPOSED to be Toystore interior from Wesleys", but in the newest readme it says "Generic Interiors Storehouse will spawn here if it is installed." with no mention of Toy Store.
I know this is very likely the stupidest question when I can just use both but it would still be nice to know.
proud swift
Is Pelagia still made for Toy Store? Or is the new default interior Storehouse?
...
its actually made for genericInterior's Tower. used to really like storehouse on it but thats moved to phaedra since. afaik wes' interiors dont come with pelagia weights out of the box, so its no longer the "intended" interior.
and its not a stupid question :o)
weak bison
its actually made for genericInterior's Tower. used to really like storehouse on...
Alright, thanks!
proud swift
np!
rn tower has weights for pelagia. storehouse might still have some but im not 100% sure off the top of my head
solemn gazelle
The Tulip Snakes had brought me to witness ancient secrets, but now surrounded by invisible walls, I am in a prison of my own making
proud swift
The Tulip Snakes had brought me to witness ancient secrets, but now surrounded b...
sometimes i forget i put these on my moons and rediscover them. i think phaedras is the easiest to find just cause the nefarious carriers spawn in droves
pelagia lacks one currently but 0.3.7 should be out this month and ill make sure to hide a cheeky one ;^)
weak bison
its actually made for genericInterior's Tower. used to really like storehouse on...
Another thing I was going to ask, are the default monster weights for Pelagia still good for Toy Store, or has all focus been moved to balancing around Tower
proud swift
Another thing I was going to ask, are the default monster weights for Pelagia st...
the interior's not that much of a factor in the spawn weights anymore, to be honest. but yea, the focus has been moved to balancing around tower. (mostly cause it has the weights for it out of the box, unlike toystore)
finite cedar
iirc I've personally used cozy office on phaedra, scoopy's sewers on pelagia, and storehouse on dirge
proud swift
iirc I've personally used cozy office on phaedra, scoopy's sewers on pelagia, an...
i like the sewers and storehouse choices, dirge plays well w storehouse, but why cozyOffice on phae? genuinely just curious
finite cedar
Good question, I just got that vibe from it tbh.
Pelagia -> sewer felt like the obvious choice to me cause swampy (and I also love some of the tiles on that interior)
Dirge -> storehouse is a little harder to explain, I think it's cause of how the building looks on the moon. Love the fire exit on there btw 🔥 I think I lowkey went for it cause having a storage facility in a chilled/cool environment seemed universally more probable, kind of like a fridge in a weird way.
And Phaedra... I wanna say I was kind of inspired by the rolling giant video, and was looking for a forest moon to use the rolling giant mod on. Partly that, and partly cause it gives Artifice vibes in the sense that it doesn't quite feel foresty like march or desert-y like offense. So I did something diff for interior theme
Wrote a whole essay lol mb
proud swift
no thats totally fine! and its funny you mention julien reverchon, i love that mod sm. never thought to put him on phaedra
i do think if you want to continue w that storage theme, try hangar over storehouse on dirge. ive grown to like it, esp w the visual changes it does based on moon tag+its easier to dodge the pups w the larger interior.
its embrion~ tier so something similar to Grand Armoury's size is enjoyable imo
and also another suggestion, try Dam on phaedra. i havent personally tried it, but if i enjoy it ill likely suggest it as the interior over reviving an old one for phaedra lol (one day, bunker.)
finite cedar
Vehicle hangar by beanie? The one and only? I gotta check it out
I've been off LC for like months now so I bet I've missed a lot
And I'll keep dam in mind too, I've lowkey been looking to experiment more with phaedra's interior in my pack 🙏
proud swift
scream if altMoons update tomorrow
i could post a teaser image but i think i should spoiler tag it
proud swift
dry shell
<:stare:1360746416477175878>
On one hand, I'm hyped
On the other it's been 9 months since that poll, sudden jumpscare basically
I wonder what the planned interior will be for that moon...
proud swift
i work slowly but surely 
tacit anvil
They already rebalanced it a little bit
the moon's feel is way better and I didn't feel fucking harassed by giants on our session
proud swift
ok hi. montys right w that but its w them being buffered by less annoying mobs
tacit anvil
hello im wrong!!
proud swift
ships landing is intentional, theres no way for mobs to get on it cause youd get fucking murked by babs, masked and sapsucker
and keepers camp it harder
proud swift
hello im wrong!!
youre not wrong tho lol it does feel noticeably better. i keep eyes on my crew when they do runs and its a big improvement
tacit anvil
ik im messing :)
proud swift
pelagia doesnt have many 2h scraps, its mostly lamps cash registers and paintings. so the jump up to ship cause no ladder is intentional
might get fucked over w widership, i only use 2story at most
and ig appy as well if you use interiors w that but i havent used toystore on pelagia in forever..
ebon wraith
ships landing is intentional, theres no way for mobs to get on it cause youd get...
Maybe you could just modify the area then? Cus with Wider + 2 story it's painful yeah
Also I wouldn't know what your in dev version of Pelagia is like
But yeah with the current live release
Giants are terrible
lol
tacit anvil
Also I wouldn't know what your in dev version of Pelagia is like
Mentioning the dev version was a way of saying that changes have already been made lol
proud swift
Maybe you could just modify the area then? Cus with Wider + 2 story it's painful...
i can look into it. i dont personally want to get into making these soft compat w widerShip in particular, it would destroy dirge as it is rn, but from what i remember all pelagia would need is a rock in the right place.
ebon wraith
I think dirge was fine iirc with Wider + 2 Story
tacit anvil
depends on which side gets the wide ig
proud swift
afaik widership ruins the dirge jump. 2story doesnt
lavish peak
afaik widership ruins the dirge jump. 2story doesnt
can you double the terrain width of dirge when widership so its likike widermoon itsnt that awesome is its oa good idea right is it
tacit anvil
every moon shuold have three ship's work of space in a radius to allow for extra ultra wider ship which adds 4 shitameters per square Fuck
hoary bronze
every moon shuold have three ship's work of space in a radius to allow for extra...
what if no 
proud swift
altMoons
ebon wraith
🔥
ebon wraith
@proud swift straight jump to 0.4.0 huh? I think I last recall you said it was gonna be 0.3.7 
congrats 
proud swift
ty. pelagia rework was big enough+i added more lore. so just bit the bullet and jumped a version
did plenty of playtesting w everything thats been changed so it should be stable.
ebon wraith
Ngl I'm looking forward to playing it, been seeing monty talk up lots of good changes for the update over the past few months 
proud swift
yea, tumnis and generic have been super supportive as well.
ebon wraith
Speaking of Autumnis I still find it funny vanilla posterization crashes his new moon ☠️ I had to turn the Sponge shader back on so we can play on it next time we play
lavish peak
Speaking of Autumnis I still find it funny vanilla posterization crashes his new...
(it doesn't it's a weird conflict but the moon works perfectly fine on its own without sponge)
tacit anvil
yuh
ebon wraith
(it doesn't it's a weird conflict but the moon works perfectly fine on its own w...
Wait so it only crashes if Sponge is present and you have it's custom shader disabled? But why is this specific to your moon lol
This game is confusing as fuck I swear
lavish peak
if sponge is present and the shader is off it works fine from what i've tested in a small modpack. this is a weird conflict with SOMETHING.
ebon wraith
Must be a Generic Moons issue as Wesley would say
In all seriousness it probably just isn't playing well with one of the optimization mods
and it's hard to say which since no other moons wanna crash and the game doesn't seem to give a descriptive reason in the crash dump
tacit anvil
if sponge is present and the shader is off it works fine from what i've tested i...
it works just with default sponge too right?
lavish peak
it works just with default sponge too right?
yeah
dry shell
Peak got an update lets goooooooooooooo
ebon wraith
@proud swift Peak update ||I was doing testing on Pelagia and I saw a masked running towards me and it got quickly killed by a Sapsucker lmao||
loud fiber
Must be a Generic Moons issue as Wesley would say
I hate him
ebon wraith
I hate him
Lmao you know he's always joking though
loud fiber
rare oar
I hate him
versed bramble
me when i hold down the alt key while routing to the moons in the fatal workplace
woven charm
<:stare:1360746416477175878>
Does anyone know a fitting interior for this?
proud swift
Does anyone know a fitting interior for this?
||LC_Office||
woven charm
||LC_Office||
Thanks
dry shell
What is the intended interior for ||the new moon|| guessing it's ||Office|| as it was mentioned earlier but I want to double check
proud swift
What is the intended interior for ||the new moon|| guessing it's ||Office|| as i...
||it has tags to set office as its interior. so if you just have office installed, itll be used. no need to futz w weights||
dry shell
||it has tags to set office as its interior. so if you just have office installe...
Nice
tacit anvil
moonsh
ebon wraith
moonsh
Embrion being rated high surprises me
Most people don't count it cus it's a meme moon
tacit anvil
Most people don't count it cus it's a meme moon
I like to play to have fun and not to win, so in q2 or q3 when i'm not super tight for money I like to go for risky moons
I won't go for the most profitable moons all the time cuz I think that's boring, and I like chaotic moons a lot
so thats why my s is the way it is
tacit anvil
tacit anvil
experimentation haul
lavish peak
does the hidden moon have any hints in-game?
proud swift
does the hidden moon have any hints in-game?
yes
lavish peak
excellent......................
loud fiber
get it cuz it's 12:03pm
tacit anvil
hushed sapphire
boreal minnow
tacit anvil
boreal minnow
steel rover
ember dome
boreal minnow
soft summit
finite cedar
Just had a sesh with my bro and when we used the teleporter on Phaedra (I accidentally teleported myself) and i did not end up at the ship 💀
Will have to check later if it is a mod incompat on my end
median walrus
what was the weather?
finite cedar
There was no weather I believe
Totally forgot about this, it'll prob slip my mind again by the time I'm off work. Unless it happens again I'm just gonna call it a fluke tbh
tacit anvil
i think on solar flare that happens
median walrus
solar flare do be stoppin the tele's
indigo kernel
do i have to unlock kuromori with unlock unhide moon mod for having it in free moons of selen's choice or not ?
tacit anvil
do i have to unlock kuromori with unlock unhide moon mod for having it in free m...
i'm not exactly sure how unlock unhide does its stuff
but I would pivot from selene's choice to LMU's discovery mode, im p sure it has all its features and more
indigo kernel
i'm not exactly sure how unlock unhide does its stuff
It don't work, lll have options for this now
But kuromori don't have config file in lll
tacit anvil
ah right right
indigo kernel
but I would pivot from selene's choice to LMU's discovery mode, im p sure it has...
IDK this mod
tacit anvil
unless you're configuring the shit out of kuromori I honestly don't think it should be free tho, its got like artifice tier loot
tacit anvil
IDK this mod
#1264314686170730688
chunkier config but you get a bit more mileage and versitility than with selene's
indigo kernel
unless you're configuring the shit out of kuromori I honestly don't think it sho...
Yeah but it's surely more hard?
tacit anvil
maybe?
you need a cruiser to loot it proper most of the time
outside is basically empty but the inside is fucking hell so idk, kinda evens out to being a slightly less intense artifice
indigo kernel
In my modpack all moons are free and you have only 3 choices of moons every day (I don't really like the buying moon mechanic since the beginning of lethal company)
You have to choose what difficulty you want for each day
indigo kernel
In my modpack all moons are free and you have only 3 choices of moons every day ...
Because there is already so much thing to buy in modded
tacit anvil
In my modpack all moons are free and you have only 3 choices of moons every day ...
oooh gotcha
then just download the mod "FreeeeeeeeeMoons"
should fix it
indigo kernel
I've set all moons to free in lll but yeah for these non configurable moons I think I'm gonna re-add freeeeemoons
In my old 270 mods modpack I've used freeeeemoons and LQ
proud swift
In my modpack all moons are free and you have only 3 choices of moons every day ...
i do something similar to this. i use lethalMoonUnlocks to shuffle 3 free+3 paid and customMoonPrices to make them all functionally free. would recommend looking into something similar, if thats what youve been asking about lol
indigo kernel
Selene's choices work fine for this I just have to set them free
proud swift
happy birthday altMoons 🎉 heres hoping for another year
tacit anvil
I LOVE ALTMOONS!!!
finite cedar
WOOOO!!@!
lavish peak
happy birthday altMoons 🎉 heres hoping for another year
hello esker's chair from outer wilds
proud swift
hello esker's chair from outer wilds
i dont know who that is dont spoil the game
i know you like the gold mask from that game but idk that character either
lavish peak
it's a chair 😇
proud swift
steel rover
is this pelagia?
Is it in the mod rn or it's something new?
tacit anvil
this is Pelagia, yeah
steel rover
great, I should install it again
clear shuttle
This looks like one of the moons I had a dream of back then 👀
timber jetty
This looks like one of the moons I had a dream of back then 👀
same here but was more dark-green, purple starry sky and more hills
clear shuttle
same here but was more dark-green, purple starry sky and more hills
Oooh! Must have been beautiful.
Mine had a stark contrast of green grass, dark-brown mud and dark-blue water, with the layout making it so you had to walk the long way around if you wanted to not drown when going from the ship to the facility and back.
At least the trees were good against Old Birds.
ebon wraith
@proud swift Just wanna let you know there's an issue with altMoons that causes some things to break after lobby reloads, for example we started to get desyncs between the host and clients and the Home command from @late venture's Terminal Stuff mod stopped working
Removing the mod did indeed fix all of this
tacit anvil
huh
tacit anvil
<@97878151182434304> Just wanna let you know there's an issue with altMoons that...
girl there's 0 code how does a moon pack cause desyncs
were the desyncs happening during the moons?
what type of desyncs?
do you have logs?
have you tried reinstalling altMoons and seeing if it still happens?
ebon wraith
I would suspect it's how it integrates the logs through CustomStoryLogs potentially
that causes the lobby reload stuff like terminal commands to stop working
Since that would be using code
tacit anvil
what type of desyncs?
.
lavish peak
I would suspect it's how it integrates the logs through CustomStoryLogs potentia...
also not done with code, just writing in a text document
and if it was that would be customstorylogs's issue wouldn't it
finite cedar
Does removing customstorylogs also solve the problem?
Also isn't LLL able to do storylogs now?
lavish peak
Also isn't LLL able to do storylogs now?
it has always been but it's buggy
proud swift
<@97878151182434304> Just wanna let you know there's an issue with altMoons that...
not gonna dogpile but logs/any other info would help. also maybe save these kinds of reports til youre done streaming, id love to get more info but youre obviously busy
ebon wraith
not gonna dogpile but logs/any other info would help. also maybe save these kind...
I checked the logs and didn't see any errors unfortunately, I did however see a CustomStoryLogs error
which is why I think one of the logs fails to register after lobby reload
I can send my pack, it's pretty easily reproduceable by reloading the lobby. Should just need to toss your moons pack in
01994037-1973-827c-d54b-0e11fc96da0b
As for desyncs basically we had a visual desync on a moon where a cactus from CR was appearing for clients but not me as host, then some clients got soft locked. Idk if that was your fault or just Lethal having issues but that was also after a lobby reload where we tried to ignore some terminal commands being broken so I suspected a chain reaction of some sort
tacit anvil
I don't see how a story log would be related to CR cacti being desynced...
proud swift
I checked the logs and didn't see any errors unfortunately, I did however see a ...
ill take a look at this after i eat, cant promise anything esp w a big pack like this (could be anything in here lol) but i have been meaning to get around to some housecleaning. so good a time as any
if i find anything itll get fixed for a future update (should be soon™)
proud swift
Also isn't LLL able to do storylogs now?
lll Can but theres no documentation on how to do it (as far as ive dug around) and what little ive tried misbehaves more than CSL..
im also not super happy w CSL just flat out, being able to just read the txt kinda puts a dampner on my drive to write but whatever lol
shy phoenix
lll Can but theres no documentation on how to do it (as far as ive dug around) a...
It ain't too bad, only issue I've had with LLL story logs is reloading the lobby causes them to not show up on the terminal anymore and breaks the sigurd list, but it's something I patch in my library
proud swift
ooh neat, ill be sure to look into this then. thx friend
ebon wraith
@proud swift this is why it breaks the Terminal Stuff Home command lol
regal sparrow
phaedra my beloved
proud swift
gonna keep my fingers on the pulse of the situation, but altMoons isnt going anywhere
finite cedar
tacit anvil
cloud flame
LMAOOO
regal sparrow
i am here on kuromori, and there are so many masked
tacit anvil
median walrus
hey that buuump
is shaped like a deeeer
tacit anvil
sadly there are no deer to run over on kuro 😔
median walrus
@small surge you have work to do
ebon wraith
<@97878151182434304> this is why it breaks the Terminal Stuff Home command lol
@proud swift Just wondering if you're planning to push an update to address this
proud swift
yea prolly
ebon wraith
Yay cus I'd love to bring them back but need funny conflict resolved
proud swift
i was hoping to have a more substantial update out for 0.4.1 (bunch of small stuff) but ive been putting it off. somehow 2 moons snuck up on me.
we'll see how it plays out, should have something out soon-ish. hopefully this week.
ebon wraith
Neat 
proud swift
ill post (and spoiler) this concept art so yall know theres at least Something going on. s/o to @tacit anvil he does god tier work
cloud flame
the vodka on fire here
finite cedar
Vodka more like molotov cocktail 🗣
tacit anvil
altmoon
proud swift
maltoon
clear shuttle
Noomtal
dry shell
It's been a little more then a month since anything was said here so I'm asking if anything has been done with altmoons lately
proud swift
It's been a little more then a month since anything was said here so I'm asking ...
nothing ive pushed to thunderstore, unfortunately. slowly getting back into the swing of working on the unity side of things, been playing a BUNCH of solo+varying crews over the past few months with only altMoons+vanilla and stinking on what i want to change, so my bad its not super apparent that theres anything being done. plan is finishing up art passes+rebalances+additions then move on to starting the concepted moons.
monty and generic regularly dm me to remind me to work on stuff again on top of me having an itch to create, so id expect Something (outside of just me pushing some small fixes or smth)
the rebalances will be heftier on some moons than others ;^)
cloud flame
I can't wait to see you cook vodka
dry shell
nothing ive pushed to thunderstore, unfortunately. slowly getting back into the ...
Hyped af
proud swift
I can't wait to see you cook vodka
thx kenji, im pretty excited to get back into it. with all the lc games ive been playing recently i can already tell what i want to make, just hope i can get it out in a reasonable time and dont overthink everything lol
desperately need a titan~ tier, i know that for sure
cloud flame
thx kenji, im pretty excited to get back into it. with all the lc games ive been...
you take your time, and you can always rely on us to give feedback!!!
proud swift
oh hey look at that
Version 0.4.1
- JLL dep added
- interior skybox/fog/light whatever bleed fixed
- modded interior tags added
- story log fixes
Dirge:
- interior size mult lowered
Phaedra:
- terrain flow tweaks
- interior size mult lowered
- ocean water now toggles with flooded weather (no more yucky)
Pelagia:
- terrain flow rework
- interior size mult tweaked
- eclipse now toggles the kill fence, scatters AI nodes outside it, and lifts the navmesh restrictions, allowing full traversal of the swamp
- swamp water drowns you slower now
- removed that fucking bird that i hate
my starborn child:
- 2nd fire exit added
- interior size mult tweaked
ebon wraith
## Version 0.4.1
* JLL dep added
* interior skybox/fog/light whatever bleed ...
Yippee, welcome back Vodka
proud swift
ty lol. ive mostly been lurking, honestly playing a bunch and observing what i could change easily. hope it came out alright
ebon wraith
Rip the bird on Pelagia though but the bird was a bit op on there 😂
I know one round we had a bird get permanently pissed
practically wiped the whole team
lol
proud swift
yea i wasnt a big fan of her but i liked how she felt on the map. would love to put her on a future moon
shes difficult to work with...
ebon wraith
I love the bird
proud swift
i love her too, shes an absolute cutie, but the way she spawns can cause a lot of problems if the map isnt really friendly to how she can just. blow the fuck up.
that and i dont think ive ever stolen her eggs and i play pretty much 24/7.
hard to make that work without it feeling shoehorned in so whatever.
dry shell
## Version 0.4.1
* JLL dep added
* interior skybox/fog/light whatever bleed ...
WE ARE SO BACK
tacit anvil
## Version 0.4.1
* JLL dep added
* interior skybox/fog/light whatever bleed ...
tit's peak
it's*
ebon wraith
@proud swift I must inform you of a problem
It seems like AltMoons are somehow breaking Mirage
proud swift
how lol
ebon wraith
Dunno but it errors when AltMoons are enabled
Winter Lodge also does this, you're likely included an outdated prefab or smth
loud fiber
vodka do you empty your enemy prefabs?
proud swift
vodka do you empty your enemy prefabs?
im pretty sure i do
loud fiber
ok then i got nothin
proud swift
i have to patch of shame so ill triple check once im done w this game tonight
proud swift
Winter Lodge also does this, you're likely included an outdated prefab or smth
any idea how they fixed it? im playing w mirage on rn and ive never had this redlog. theres not much to really work with here lol
ebon wraith
Oh the dev of Winter Lodge never fixed it lol
ebon wraith
any idea how they fixed it? im playing w mirage on rn and ive never had this red...
If one of the other mooners are available to ask rn I would ask them how they're handling the prefabs and compare it lol
@shy phoenix Actually maybe you can look into what might be gullible?
shy phoenix
If one of the other mooners are available to ask rn I would ask them how they're...
Blank references need be blank
Can just be default state of the EnemyType ScriptableObject by doing Reset on it
ebon wraith
@proud swift I hope this helps lol
shy phoenix
I still be lookin
Vorch's Toy Cube ain't a blank reference
Plastic Fish too I think?
(Unrelated)
ebon wraith
Also do the same for Winter Lodge when you can, I did forward your suggestions there lol
proud swift
Vorch's Toy Cube ain't a blank reference
those arent vanilla items, dw
shy phoenix
Dunno but it errors when AltMoons are enabled
Ye not sure, there ain't a bonus Masked prefab being bundled
I blame uhhhhhhhhhh
France 🇫🇷
ebon wraith
Ye not sure, there ain't a bonus Masked prefab being bundled <:greed:12004183196...
I wonder if somehow it’s an interaction thing
AltMoons might be calling the duplicate masked that Wesley included in Acidir lmao
shy phoenix
Unlikely
ebon wraith
Would be funny
shy phoenix
They be completely separate
small surge
Dunno but it errors when AltMoons are enabled
Do you not have the full log?
ebon wraith
Do you not have the full log?
I posted the errors that would throw everytime I landed the ship I looked and I was not given any extra useful info
I'll test if I can repro this with the new update
It does indeed
So weird
Maybe cus of this?
I think this is what causes it
Oscar isn't even part of AltMoons wth it's part of Black Mesa
LOL
[15:39:15.2762418] [Debug : DawnLib] plastered_crabsmod:oscar_ -> Oscar
What the fuck
I'mma disable Black Mesa and see if it somehow fixes it, this is hella weird though
LOL
Okay this did not fix it
Lol good
But I am still confused
My only guess is it all starts from this
I think this error is going off and prevents the synced config from initializing, but idk why Emergency Dice is erroring
@zinc bay Maybe you might know what is happening here?
Yeah it's this
If I turn off alt moons this NullRef doesn't throw
no AltMoons no NullRef
With AltMoons there is a NullRef
I feel like it's the story log again causing problems lmao
ebon wraith
Yeah prolly the story log, it looks all the errors in this Stack are relating to something in the Terminal being null
tacit anvil
I posted the errors that would throw everytime I landed the ship I looked and I ...
Should still send the full log
idk if you did but if you didn't you def should
ebon wraith
I did lol
tacit anvil
proud swift
Yeah prolly the story log, it looks all the errors in this Stack are relating to...
then disable CSL and try it out? i cant really do anything on my side cause ive never encountered this error, its starting to sound more and more like an edge case w your oversized pack. i didnt touch the logs besides renaming HOME, i didnt add any enemies, i didnt change anything That substantial.
ebon wraith
Idk what it is, something with Dice errors when AltMoons are enabled and idk why, it would be for @zinc bay and you to figure out
cloud flame
but CSL is used in like all of wesley's moons, so that sounds wrong
ebon wraith
Yeah it's not Custom Story Logs cus Wesley's are fine
loud fiber
If dice is the one erroring i think you shouldve contacted them instead
ebon wraith
Ahhhhhh
ebon wraith
Yeah so one of the moons in AltMoons has one of those that would do it
and yeah a null check should be done
shy phoenix
I still blame France 🇫🇷
proud swift
A SpawnableOutsideObject might be gullible <:plink:1308332227318255696>
oh im gonna kill those snowmen.
shy phoenix
Ah
zinc bay
I still blame France 🇫🇷
same 🇫🇷
shy phoenix
Yeah that'd do it
You can add Snowmen if you still have the prefabs, they just can't be blank references
zinc bay
Slayer could add a null check still
still I just put in a null check just in case
proud swift
i legit forgot to set them up properly, somehow slipped my mind. monty even sent me the files
2nd patch of shame incoming
shy phoenix
proud swift
ebon wraith
At least this makes more sense, I thought maybe the story log had some kinda null ref somehow
tacit anvil
yeah no all the guesses were strange lmao
proud swift
0.4.3 pushed, should fix snowmen
i nearly bricked my project doing an assbackwards way of fixing snowmen but i think i managed to save it. lmk if anything breaks further
@ebon wraith should be fine now
go drink some water and wash your face.
tacit anvil
ebon wraith
Yippee, yeah I was gonna say when you blamed my mod pack I was about to scream since I do my best to make sure it's not an oversized pack XD
I feel like if anything it's mostly dependencies and bug fix mods ☠️ but apparently v80 is gonna be fixing a ton finally in vanilla
I will be so glad to strip bug fix mods out
Largest mod I have is Wesley's Moons
lol
proud swift
I feel like if anything it's mostly dependencies and bug fix mods ☠️ but apparen...
no i def understand. and i didnt mean anything overtly negative with that, though i will admit it was a mild jab, will also admit im stumbling in the dark w unity. and you were reporting problems with mirage and im like, mid pelagia session w 4 other crew members and a full masked infestation and zero problems lol
ebon wraith
Haha yeah very valid lmao
shy phoenix
Yippee, yeah I was gonna say when you blamed my mod pack I was about to scream s...
It's funny to blame it though 
proud swift
0.4.4 pushed, what started as a mild early-game rebalance turned into a full phaedra rework. oops !
ebon wraith
0.4.4 pushed, what started as a mild early-game rebalance turned into a full pha...
Got an interesting question, while redoing my moon weights I noticed Pelagia is using the Extra Large Version of the Facility lmao why?
It's unused in Vanilla so I'm curious how well it even works lol
proud swift
does it? ill have to tweak it later, was going to add tags to pela for castellum carnis instead of tower and never got around to it (couldnt decide on living or bloody tag but ill prolly go living)
ebon wraith
Yeah it does, I just fixed it to use both a weight of 200 for normal Facility and Expanded Facility instead of the 200 weight for Level1 Extra Large
XD
Castellum is a pretty neat interior
proud swift
yea zero idea how that slipped thru lol
topaz cosmos
does this have progression like wesley's?
proud swift
does this have progression like wesley's?
no, but its planned when i have more than just the 4 moons.
wheat juniper
Will there be a v80 update
proud swift
Will there be a v80 update
hopefully. been taking a step away from modded lc (almost exclusively playing only vanilla since v80 dropped) cause everythings all hairy. gives me a lot of anxiety to update the project too lol
unsure what ill use from the v80 update, mob-wise, but ill definitely be doing it.
green moat
It’s a magical day
cloud vault
LOL