LethalMon [v80 / 0.6.10]

[naive crane]

Actually

[frigid dock]

@primal ferry already worked on it I don't remember exactly its behavior

[lime fox]

@primal ferry just remember I'm better so I'd erase all my word if I were you

Xoxo

[naive crane]

Great I dunno how to like

WHERE DO I CATCH THINGS

Ok where do bees spawn the most

[frigid dock]

Outside

[lime fox]

Bee moon

[naive crane]

IT FAILED

AGAIN

[frigid dock]

Send the logs then

[naive crane]

???

[frigid dock]

I'm on mobile so it's not easy to read but my guess is that AdvancedCompany is screwing everything up

Your logs are full of errors from this mod and it patched some of my code

If you want to test it quickly, you can install make the balls cost 0 in the config so you can buy them for free

Or install imperium then f2 -> write pokeball

[naive crane]

So just....

Buy poke balls

[frigid dock]

Yes right

[naive crane]

Ill use a uh

The uh

Bees are catchable rightr

[prime plover]

Yes they are.

[naive crane]

@frigid dock

This is what happens when I throw it at a Beehive

[lime fox]

Send all logs

[naive crane]

Go nuts

I literally threw it at the bees

AND THEY REFUSED

To do anything

[naive crane]

As it screamed at me that it could not do anything

[frigid dock]

There is something removing my AI component

I can't check the logs right now tho

[naive crane]

Weurd

[naive crane]

Just ping me if we find a solution

[rough pewter]

Just don't use Advanced company. That mod is severely outdated and is full of incompatibilities

There're many mods that offer the same features and are updated consistently

[bright sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/undertale-refused-heart-gif-4938848

[naive crane]

It was updated for V62 just recently

And well Ive been using it for months and im super lazy to change it

Unless there's suggestions

[naive crane]

https://tenor.com/view/undertale-meme-gif-18480282

[frigid dock]

I still see advanced company in the logs

[primal ferry]

Being calm, but hates noises. Can be calmed again by owner, but also stressed by him if shaken too much. Once enough noise has been made by an entity / player it will start hunting and kill anything in range it dislikes, even the owner

[naive crane]

TOO MANY RULES

[naive crane]

I mean is it the issue?

I dunno honestly?

[primal ferry]

so if you're better, why i don't see any github commits with your name on this repo huh? 😏

[primal ferry]

tldr: don't stress it

:)

[naive crane]

I JUST WANNA THROW IT INTO A PIT

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-gif-19847115

[primal ferry]

well.. that's doable.. also questionable but who am i to judge ^^

[naive crane]

I aint a nanny!

I collect loot

[lime fox]

I dont like taking credit, I'm just that nice

[cedar sphinx]

what do the ghost girl and butler do? i tried testing with them but i couldnt find out what they did

[frigid dock]

Did you check the dex on the pc?

[cedar sphinx]

i cant lie i completely forgot about that 😭

[frigid dock]

Scan the ball to unlock the dex entry

[sturdy tangle]

thats for the adult maneater when caught?

so, why exactly should i even catch it if all it does is get pissed off and kill me and all my friends?

it better offer something amazing to make capturing it worth that level of risk, there are no other mon's in this mod that hurt the owner and they all offer pretty good utility

[primal ferry]

It's stronger against other monsters than any other tamed monster, only with the drawback of being able to kill players too

It calms down slightly when hearing the owners voice though, so you can't anger it by talking as long as it's tamed by you

[calm tiger]

Hey I saw other people were having the issue but I cant catch any of the monsters and when we find a ball on the ground it spawns it for host only and spawns infinitley and does damage to the host idk if its a compatability issue but any help would be awesome 😭

[thorny knot]

OMG SAME

[naive crane]

WEIRD

3 people now

[quick lake]

no yeah I reported it a few days back

most likely an incompat, because it happened to us as well

[lavish quiver]

This tbh
So far the pokemon have already been relatively balanced by how hard it is to catch them compared to the utility they offer, so having something be hard to catch and hostile to you after the fact doesn't seem worth the possible use against creatures- especially if it's limited to certain physical ones (ie can't kill coilheads or ghost girl). For that, one might just stick to the Bracken.

Maybe instead have the maneater function as a deterrent? Ie when it starts crying monsters in range (maybe up to two tiles away) instinctively back off, and if not calmed down it either runs away (forcing you to track it down) or automatically retreats into its ball, thereby putting you at indirect risk from other monsters.

Also, this could just be something that isn't in the dex or me bugging, but there doesn't seem to be a dismount option for the mounts outside of putting them back in their ball. Maybe bind that separately to the command key, since there are maps where putting them away immediately risks them falling through the floor?

[prime plover]

Damn you have alot of ideas XD

[naive crane]

Wait also?

There must be a mod we must all have or something

[primal ferry]

Crouching is the way to dismount. There should be a control tip on the top right that tells you that, but it might be bugged. Haven't tested it in a while

[sturdy tangle]

ok so atleast it isn't all noise, that does make it more useful

i'll have to experience the captured little guy in game first to make my opinions on his mechanics, the maneater has been a mon i've been very excited for

but the idea that it can dish out even more damage than a nutcracker is a little wild, it certainly has the potential to be the strongest mon in the mod if you play your cards right

i don't have a problem at all with a mon that encourages high risk-high reward mechanics, thats pretty much what lethal company is all about, the only part im wary on is the idea that my friends talking and dropping/picking up scrap is enough to set the little guy off, because thats not exactly a variable thats easily manageable, which would make the maneater much more useful to have when playing solo over multiplayer

but like i said, i wanna get my little grabby hands on him first before i make any judgements about his mechanics, the rest of the mons in this mod have been fairly well balanced and very creative and useful mechanically, so i don't think i have to worry

[sturdy tangle]

the mental image of cradling a fully grown adult maneater and rocking it to sleep is amazing

[lavish quiver]

This mod has a lot of potential. Just about any time I bother with getting involved in the community, it's to spitball in places that seem open to it

[lavish quiver]

Only thing it shows is the critter's picture and the action it's taking, plus the option to put it away

[frigid dock]

Can you send me your modpack?

Or someone else who have the bug too

[barren egret]

what does the mouthdog and thumper do? Idk how to trigger their actions

[calm tiger]

yeah ofc its a thunderstore pack :) 0192383a-86af-3585-79f7-0355ed667123

[thorny knot]

Thumper breaks doors doggo distracts things

[barren egret]

how that work for distracting ain't that going to sabotage with the another dogs? or are you talking about indoor it serve as 2nd shield mobs attack the dog first?

[frigid dock]

It's explained in the dex on the PC

[cedar sphinx]

we lost a run and the PC didnt respawn on the ship

[naive crane]

So weird

The issue persist without advanced

[lime fox]

Send logs

[naive crane]

I forgot to get em

[calm tiger]

@thorny knot do u use thunderstore and if so could i have ur pack to see if we got any of the same mods o.o

[clever zodiac]

pokeballs turn in to random items when i load a save with one in my ship

[frigid dock]

You probably added a mod that added an item

Then the IDs are not working

[frigid dock]

Found it, it's because of the "Scallg" moon

Why does a moon mod modifies the enemies...

[calm tiger]

bro wtf ahah alr ill try without that cheers man :)

[calm tiger]

@frigid dock works great now thanks man stupid ass moon ong

[lime fox]

you sure? it doesnt have any code

[frigid dock]

Yes I tested it with and without

I don't understand either

[lime fox]

@manic marten do you have any clues?

[manic marten]

nope

I made all my moons using Audio Knight guides, and I'm surprised that my moon conflicts with a mod for Pokemon mechanics

[lime fox]

how do u add enemies to ur moon?

fake SO's right?

[frigid dock]

I add a component to the monsters prefab, but it seems to be removed when your mod is enabled

But the bug happens also on experimentation or any other moon

And for example it happens with the bracken but the bees are working

[manic marten]

Maybe it's because of the copies of monster prefabs? After the release of v64 I decided to make 1 in 1 as in the Audio Knight guide

Maybe something similar is also on Tauralis because I did it there too

[lime fox]

nah you're supposed to do those blank references

thats teh thing

LLL replaces em with the actual copies

how are u adding ur component? @frigid dock

[frigid dock]

Loop through the enemies types and call AddComponent on the prefab object

[lime fox]

you're probably doing it before LLL replaces references :/

or something like that

[frigid dock]

Maybe

But why does it happen only with this moon?

[lime fox]

hmm problem is not all enemies use start/awake so i cant even suggest that lol

[lime fox]

no idea

[lime fox]

thanks coilhead btw

[frigid dock]

The components are added after GameNetworkManager.Start

[lime fox]

yeah im pretty sure thats too early lol

[frigid dock]

Any suggestion for this hook?

[lime fox]

uhhhh

terminal awake maybe

@hushed rock would know when he wakes up

tl;dr, they mess with the EnemyType SO on GameNetworkManager.Start, and i assume that's too early for LLL's replacement stuff

[frigid dock]

It's not even working after terminal awake

So I guess the issue is not because it is too early

Nevermind

It's working after terminal awake

[lime fox]

lol

[frigid dock]

I compiled in release mode so I wasn't using the right dll lol

[naive crane]

WE HAVE TO DELETE SCALLG?

😭

[frigid dock]

No I'll release a fix in a few minutes

[naive crane]

A moon mod causing that issue is so weird

[lime fox]

twas not the moon mod

[frigid dock]

0.6.3

• Load enemies AIs later to prevent conflicts with other mods (like LLL's moons mod)

LethalMon [v64 / 0.6.3]

[naive crane]

Its LLL?

[quick lake]

read the chat lol

[naive crane]

I am lol

Its just weird Conflicts

[thorny knot]

Will when i can

[calm tiger]

@thorny knot dw its all fixed now :)

[thorny knot]

Oh ok

YIPPEE

[calm tiger]

uhm found a interesting bug if u recall goop whilst someones standing on it it perma bricks them and if u tp them they become a disembodied voice

[thorny knot]

Btw what was the issue/incompat

[frigid dock]

Some LLLs moons

But it was my fault because I loaded monsters AI too early

[oak edge]

if i use imperium can i spawn a pokeball with an enemy in it?

[lavish quiver]

Same

[dawn crystal]

why not just spawn the monster you want and then a master ball

[oak edge]

thx it worked

[tame cliff]

it seems that on saving and reentering the lobby it doesnt properly save the content of the balls. suddenly theres another monster inside.

[frigid dock]

0.6.4

• Fixed PC not respawning after players got fired
• Fixed a bug that spammed the console of errors if a tamed enemy agent was null

LethalMon [v64 / 0.6.4]

[unreal cargo]

Is there some sort of API/pull requests i can do to add pokeball thingies to my custom enemies?

[frigid dock]

Not yet but it is in my to do list

[unreal cargo]

oke nice

[frigid dock]

Which monster do you want to add?

[unreal cargo]

the haunted harpist

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1209625656133034044 this guy

[frigid dock]

What would be their behavior? (So I can check if all necessary functions are already here)

[unreal cargo]

uhhhh im not rlly sure tbh lmao, but it wouldnt be anything super complex cuz the harpist itself is a pretty basic enemy

its just a ghost that goes round playing music with a harp and attacks u if u annoy it

[frigid dock]

Alright, it seems completely feasible

[unreal cargo]

cool

[weary bloom]

it could follow you around giving you a boost when its playing a music (like more stamina or something)

tho it would be a bit too good - at least theres an idea where you can start from 😛

[unreal cargo]

that would be a good idea for the bagpipe ghost cuz the bagpipes were originally supposed to give u a speed and damage boost + reduce fear level, but at the time v50/55 (cant remember) came out and I wanted to wait till its properly done to do the patches and then just forgor

[lime fox]

maybe we can rename it to clownharpist?

[unreal cargo]

circus music needs like a whole ass band tho i swear

[lime fox]

i was making fun of s1ckboy's idea since it already exists

but a band would be funny

[unreal cargo]

i was gonna do a mariachi band but couldnt be bothered

[lime fox]

eh too much work tbh

[unreal cargo]

ye

[lime fox]

i still need to develop a laser beam thing, been lazy about it

[unreal cargo]

is it like a solid beam or a projectile type thing?

[lime fox]

a projectile type thing

its not for an EnemyAI

but something very similar

[unreal cargo]

yea thats aids

[lime fox]

lol

that's life

[unreal cargo]

true

[lime fox]

im ngl, this game i was introduced to, 2 weeks ago

has taken up atleast 50 hours

i wouldve modded so hard

if i didnt know this existed

[unreal cargo]

roblox best game ever

[lime fox]

truly

gonna move onto roblox modding

[unreal cargo]

its alot easier than lethal company since u dont need to work around the zeekers spaghetti code 😂

[lavish quiver]

Idea for the snare flea: Creates a hammock on the ceiling and pulls you up to make a safe spot from monsters
Caveat: Places with really high ceilings can give fall damage, and whatever you do, do Not use it in the facility interior main entrance

[frigid dock]

The snare flea is already designed, it will act like a healer by going on your head

Your idea is good thought

[sturdy tangle]

will you be able to see with it on?

[frigid dock]

No, that's the downside

[sturdy tangle]

fair, it would be kinda broken if you could walk around with it constantly on

i really like that though, we don't have a healer mon yet

once again impressive creativity 👍

[dawn crystal]

as someone who barely gets fucked over by screen distractions

ill win 😎

[rough pewter]

Omg I love the new balls

So coool

[lime fox]

The sound makes me think that it would bounce on the ground a little bit

If it doesn't, u could do a coroutine ongroundhit or whatever the override function is called where u change the position up and down a bit

[frigid dock]

I already changed the throw algorithm

Wait i'll make a video

[frigid dock]

Made it not rotating, isn't it better like that?

[lime fox]

Should be a bit bigger I think

[frigid dock]

The ball or the monster?

[lime fox]

Monster

[dawn crystal]

lethalball

[primal ferry]

I love it too. Agree with making the monster bigger

[rough pewter]

Will we ever get bouncy balls as a ball type?

[thorny knot]

Would be better as a payed upgrade per ball on the pc

[rough pewter]

Would be cool

[quick lake]

thanks!!! me and @small jay worked hard on em :D

[gleaming wind]

yall did pretty good

[quick lake]

I think if anything it should vary between monsters, but I do agree hoarding bugs should maybe be a lil bigger

I love what Nysva did with the transparency and the sfxs, great stuff :]

[quick lake]

thank yoush !!

I still have 3 more in the backlog, I've just been a bit busy with college and other shtuff

[bright sandal]

whoa thats so cool!!!

[quick lake]

I realize that we also probably need icons LMAO

@frigid dock Would you want the new icons to be in the style of LC's scrap items or to be renders of the balls like the tool items?

for the scrap style I'd probably go for something like this (duck scrap icon I made for biodiversity)

[frigid dock]

I think that a ball icon with this style will look great!

[quick lake]

Great! would you like different ones for each ball tier or will a single one suffice? they're super quick and easy to do most of the time lol

[gleaming wind]

it'd be neat for the balls to also have icons indicating what creature's in em.

[frigid dock]

Maybe 1 per ball so we can differentiate them?

[frigid dock]

It's planned, I'll add the monster sprite at the bottom of the ball icon

[rough pewter]

What are the new names for the balls? I imagine they'd be something like

Monster ball (Pokeball)

Great Monster Ball (Great ball)

Ultra Monster Ball (Ultra Ball)

Master Monster Ball (Master Ball)

Or something else?

[frigid dock]

Idk yet

I named them LethalBalls but it's temporary

[quick lake]

I call them company capsules, personally

abreviated to com-cap, you'd have com-cap, reinforced com-cap, naval com-cap and prime com-cap

that's what I decided to name them in the doc anyway

[bright sandal]

thats a rlly cool name actually

i feel like it could just be "capsules" coloquially but official known as company capsules

[quick lake]

definitely could shorten it to capsules

[frigid dock]

@unreal cargo I made the API public, here is the debug version. As you're the first one using this, I will take your feedbacks before releasing it.
To register an enemy, you can call LethalMon.Registry.RegisterEnemy when you want (basically when your plugin starts), but before Terminal.Awake.
The documentation should be good enough on these parameters to know how to fill them.
For the TamedEnemyBehaviour class (the AI of the tamed monster), you can check https://github.com/Feiryn/LethalMon/blob/master/LethalMon/Behaviours/ExampleTamedBehaviour.cs or other implemented monsters like https://github.com/Feiryn/LethalMon/blob/master/LethalMon/Behaviours/HoarderBugTamedBehaviour.cs.
Finally, if you enable the test room (with LethalDevMode or something else), you can change the monster in a ball you hold with 'O'

I will make a better documentation later but I had enough doc for now lol (I spent a lot of time at work doing doc too this week)

[lime fox]

Sick

[weary bloom]

Sup

[lime fox]

Just wanted to say you're a bad friend

[weary bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/incoherent-vv-anime-gif-25785171

Wat I do?

[lime fox]

YAPPED

yapped*

[weary bloom]

[naive crane]

The best mod I wanna see with this is Biodiversity

[frigid dock]

I won't be the one doing it tho

[naive crane]

I know I know

I'm just saying I'm hoping to see it

I would say football but there is no reason since like

[weary bloom]

As much as I would love it, I have to say currently its out of the scope of Biodiversity. We could get back to it once the upcoming stuff are done and Figo figures out the ins-and-outs of the API.

[naive crane]

Oh I know y'all haven't even done all your content yet

But eventually once you guys full release I consider biodiversity alpha ATM I would love to see the compat

[unreal cargo]

nice, ill have a look at it at some point

[frigid dock]

Should I add back the kidnapper fox as catchable?

• If the monster is not enabled back with yesfox or another mod, it can only be found in the dungeon in a ball that already contains the monster
• If the monster is added back with a mod, it will also be catchable

[rough pewter]

If it can be added without errors, then sure

[frigid dock]

I tested it and everything seems to work

[scenic ocean]

Please bring the Fox back I beg you ! He's a good boy 🙏

[quick lake]

sounds good! the icon I made for it is also my favorite so I'm super down hahah

[sturdy tangle]

Yeah I kinda like that idea, I don't run any mods that bring it back so only being able to find it in the interiors as a rare spawn kinda makes it the legendary pokemon of this mod XD

Will the fox be added to the PC so it can be cloned?

[frigid dock]

If I follow the logic of the other monsters, you shouldn't be able to clone it as you didn't captured it yourself... But as it is not available in the wild then maybe

[sturdy tangle]

trueee

i don't mind either way, one option increases the rarity and the other option increases its uniqueness

[bright sandal]

HELL YEAH BOIIII DOGGY TIME

[naive crane]

Gonna need a higher catch rate now

At least a lil bit anyhow

[bright sandal]

wait the fact that it stuns enemies is rlly coola actually

also kinda dangerous XD

runnin straight into danger only to buy yourself some time to get away from said danger

[frigid dock]

It's been increased a lot

[frigid dock]

It also damages them

[naive crane]

Makes sense

[bright sandal]

tho ig its also useful as an assist pokemon - hittting the enemy while theyre grabbed

[bright sandal]

o it does? mb mb

[naive crane]

Catching it with a pokeball with a 100% chance how much of a change we talking?

[frigid dock]

2 hp damages + 2s stun

[frigid dock]

Pokeball: 5%
GB: 20%
UB: 70%

[naive crane]

Makes sense

[frigid dock]

It can be used as mount and it's really fast

[bright sandal]

yikes

[naive crane]

Peak

When's the update coming?

[bright sandal]

hmm wai

[frigid dock]

Hopefully in the next hours, but I have an ultimate issue that I don't find how to fix

[bright sandal]

out of curiosity does spore doggy do anythin different now

[naive crane]

What's the new issues?

[frigid dock]

No

But now the player is sitting

[frigid dock]

Something with the dog not initializing well on clients on the first milliseconds and it makes the ride trigger go far away

[naive crane]

Well I mean this is the first time Ive ever seen a ridable mount

[frigid dock]

Yeah it's a really specific bug

[naive crane]

Rest in peace

[unreal cargo]

does the trigger come back after its properly initialized on the client?

[frigid dock]

No it doesn't

[frigid dock]

0.6.5

• Refactored the code, changed access modifiers and added a lot of documentation for modders that want to add their own monsters (public API)
• Added Kidnapper Fox back (it can be found in balls in the dungeon, or can be captured if re-enabled with some mods like YesFox)
• Completely new Eyeless Dog behaviour
• Players are now sitting on Spore Lizard and Eyeless Dog instead of standing through them

LethalMon [v64 / 0.6.5]

[ocean garnet]

When are you going to add the new lethalballs?

[frigid dock]

Not soon, it takes time to create and code

[ocean garnet]

Oke

[frigid dock]

I still have to move the camera depending on the position of the viewer

(also that's what you look like in third person, but you won't be able to see yourself when it will be finished)

I also need someone to design the shape of the portal. As it be created by the barber in a wall by cutting it, I need something like a breach or a crack

If someone is willing to help me on that, it will be greatly appreciated

[primal ferry]

damn.. that looks sick already, when keeping in mind that you just started a few hours ago 👀

[bright sandal]

whu huh

i think my brain just bluescreened for a good few seconds trying to process what i was seeing 💀

thats so cool omfg

also the 3rd eprson view looks hilarious

new specimen unlocked:

[rough pewter]

Balls found as scrap that contain dogs in the facility have the old dog behavior

[tropic reef]

All of the lethalmons can't mostly cross around most of the wesley moons (Sometimes they clip through certain things that isn't just part of the ground for an example a custom building/area) Best to replicate this in on atlantica

[frigid dock]

I guess that the interaction trigger to mount it didn't appear

For whatever reason

[frigid dock]

It's probably due to the moon design

I can't do anything for this

[bright sandal]

i have an idea for coil-head:

• if you dont look at it, it just follows you.
• if you look at it, it freezes and you can use it to strategically protect yourself against some stuff (shotgun shots, turrets, etc)
• if an enemy comes too close to a coil-head, it will bounce the enemy away.

since coils are so easy to catch, they will go into "recharge mode" (the v56 thing) when:

• looked at for over 10 seconds
• "damaged" by anything other than a turret (they can't be killed but will go into recharge mode when hit by an attack)
• after it "bounced" an enemy
• after it "propels" you (more on that a bit later)

the recharge phase would last for around 10-20 seconds depending on how its recharge phase was triggered. the timer for the coil is recharging mode will continue to go down even when the coil is in the pokeball.

the coil-head also has the ability to propel you in the direction you look - useful for getting away from enemies and for... idk, miscellanous tomfoolery i suppose XD
maybe, MAYBE you could also propel other players for the funni :)

[bright sandal]

OH

manticoils could lead you back to main entrance

y'all wanted this idea for a long time but couldnt think of a monster that fit

i also kinda like the idea of manticoils acting as scouts - they alert you whenever a monster spawns

good reward in exchange for being pretty hard to catch imo

[quick lake]

iirc we both suggested this a month or so ago

cool ideas n shit :)

[bright sandal]

so, the ideas for the non-implemented enemies are:

• Barber: can cut portals to other locations with its scissors

• Snare flea: Heals you but obscures you vision

• Forest Keeper: tanks hits for you; shield

• Coil-head: maybe it can launch you via spring and block enemy attacks? [unofficial]

• Earth Levy: maybe a form of fast travel that also kills enemies? [unofficial]

• Manticoil: maybe can guide you to main entrance and do smth else idk? [unofficial]

• Old Bird: maybe some kind of battle mech/multipurpose thing? [unofficial]

• Jester: ???

• Maneater: ???

• Mask Hornets: ???

[frigid dock]

I planned to make the manticoil a scout yes, by alerting of nearby enemies

[bright sandal]

oh neat

just... dont let it loose near the main entrance ceiling fan room..............

[bright sandal]

i mean manticoil is pretty hard to catch i think

it flutters away whenever you get close

i think it should have a high catch rate since its alr difficult to get close to it

[bright sandal]

hmmm... out of curiosity, what does the butler do rn again? maybe mask hornets can be tied to it somehow

[frigid dock]

It clean monsters corpses and turn them into scraps

[jovial ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/v-vergil-dmc-dmc5-good-bye-chat-gif-1911582061205175226

[quick lake]

ME ME ME CAN I I'VE BEEN BUSY BUT I can do a small sketch heheheheh

[desert mulch]

It'd be really hard to balance just using a ball to get rid of a jester, but possibly balance by making break out at full speed popped should you fail?

[frigid dock]

Sure :)

Thanks

[desert mulch]

Dogs still have their howl cooldown as a setting. Also can you make one to change the rate weight affects them?

[desert mulch]

or maybe they aren't affected by weight and I'm just clueless

[frigid dock]

Weight indeed affects the stamina used

[naive crane]

@frigid dock

New thing...

If a person throws a masked.

It just stays behind them like its attached to them.

[desert mulch]

Eyeless dogs don't care about stamina tho

[naive crane]

Also doesn't seem to do inside an interior

[thorny knot]

btw

my friend cannot see the mimics

(im hosting

[naive crane]

Well if you throw it

It's because it literally attaches itself behind them

[thorny knot]

no as in alltogether

[naive crane]

Intriguing

[thorny knot]

they cannot see it no matter who throws when its catched

[naive crane]

For me it was attached to my friend like it was being unseen

[rugged oxide]

another mod is conflicting with this mod making the Masked do 20 Fps frame drops when they spawn. im testing to find the mod causing this issue

these fps drops stay until the masked is killed or destroyed after leaving in the ship

[rugged oxide]

the fps drops are also stackable

[rugged oxide]

i haven't found the mod breaking it but the version of LethalMon before this one works great no lag the newest version puts me at 3 fps so fast it makes me want to cry.

[wary dragon]

same issue on my end

[naive crane]

ALso here

[frigid dock]

Hmm

Is there something in the console?

[naive crane]

Ill check rq

[naive crane]

Can't seem to see any errors on my end

[rugged oxide]

no errors in the log either

[rugged oxide]

the fps drops get larger the less fps you have so if you already have 40 fps it will drop you to 13 possibly 3 fps

so the fps drops are actually there with just this mod but the more mods you add the bigger the fps drops get until i hit the one mod that just break it and one Masked spawning Sends me strait from 90 to 3 fps

[wary dragon]

my experience was on Seichi, everytime the Seichi masked spawns and dies my fps start dropping

[frigid dock]

Any masked? Not only the ones from my mod?

[dawn crystal]

there is numerous bugs with masked that cause fps drops

but also fun fact

any monster thats killed still has pathfinding code run

[wary dragon]

it was the ones from your mod but Idk if that's just a coincidence since they spawned first

[dawn crystal]

unfortunately since seichi copy pasted the vanilla stuff for masked to make the oni, if you use a mod to fix masked bugs, which does exist, oni still have them

[wary dragon]

no wait it was the one from Seichi, my b

[rugged oxide]

indeed however killing the masked removes the lag until another one spawns

[rugged oxide]

i havent tested the caught masked but any masked that spawns causes large amounts of lag

[frigid dock]

There is no code running from my mod for uncaught masked, so the issue is from another mod ig

[wary dragon]

also when I tried uninstalling the mod and reloaded my save to check the effect, the PC still existed and working normally, after another reload it vanished, is it cause it was a previous save?

[frigid dock]

No you probably badly removed it

It can't exists without my mod

[naive crane]

@frigid dock

LOoot bugs can't even pick up items

[frigid dock]

Send your log file

[naive crane]

@frigid dock

[unreal cargo]

uninstalling a mod and then continuing to play on that save will only cause bad things

especially with a mod like lethalmon that saves shizzle into the save files

which isnt lethalmons fault (if you thought i was hinting that)

[wary dragon]

ye we'll finish up the current save so we wont have to deal with the issues anymore

we kept changing mods on that save lol

[rugged oxide]

this happens even with only your mod installed when a masked is spawned it drops the fps by 5 -10 for the first few Masked 20 for every one after this dosnt happen in vanilla lethal company

0.6.5 has this issue but 0.6.4 is fine.

[frigid dock]

AdvancedCompany is really buggy

[unreal cargo]

the only bit of code in the mod which touches a masked (apart from when u capture one) is when it collides with a player, and yea theres nothing that could cause fps drops in said code

[frigid dock]

I tested it and indeed with my mod there is a big fps drop that I don't have with my mod disabled

Now, why...?

Idk

[unreal cargo]

the fps drop doesnt occur when ur mod is not installed?

[frigid dock]

yeah it doesn't

[unreal cargo]

bruh

yea icl i dont have a clue. There is 1 thing which u should fix but I doubt its the cause of the massive fps drop

in here: https://github.com/Feiryn/LethalMon/blob/master/LethalMon/Patches/EnemyAIPatch.cs

u need to cache the TamedEnemyBehaviour objects cuz using GetComponent is "expensive", and can lead to fps drops if used frequently but idk if it can lead to the massive fps drops ppl are describing

this, is a cache dictionary thing which i use, but ye jus make a cache for the TamedEnemyBehaviours

[frigid dock]

This is probably the cause yeah, that's the only things that I added

Masked probably spams the collide function

[unreal cargo]

fair enough

the base game is full of GetComponent shiz and he never ever uses a cache 💀

[frigid dock]

there is no issue if I comment this

I didn't know it was that expensive

And that it was spammed like hell

[unreal cargo]

oh

daym

at least u found the issue now so its saul good

[lime fox]

OnCollideWithPlayer is quite literlaly just the OnTrigger event

itll trigger every update cycle iirc

ignoring the fact that theres also zeekerss code that runs in the background of you patching that method

[naive crane]

No offense.

But you blamed advanced last time and it wasn't even related...

🥲

[unreal cargo]

i can guarantee i can find a few things in advanced company that rape fps

[frigid dock]

I guess it probably triggers with the mask or smth

[naive crane]

But I'm talking about the issues with Lethalmon

[frigid dock]

It was if I remember correctly

[naive crane]

It was synthesis.

[lime fox]

potatoepet is pretty good with code, better than most people i know from what i remember, advanced company is just not maintained rn so probably yeah

[naive crane]

And well your code patched ai but synthesis and other moons did it first

Which caused issues.

[unreal cargo]

nah i jus meant cuz it downloads loads of extra mods which add fixes

from what i saw in the log anyway, idrk what advacned company does icl

[naive crane]

Remember advanced is owned by no one

It's public domain from what i heard

[lime fox]

just a bunch of bloated garbage for the most part lol

[lime fox]

fooling no one 😭

[naive crane]

Is it not???

[unreal cargo]

oh is that the mod that there was beef with ages ago?

[naive crane]

I don't know bruh

[lime fox]

it is but you a big fan of hte guy i remember

[lime fox]

yeah

[unreal cargo]

💀

[naive crane]

What...

I like the mod moron cause I'm lazy

Lol

[lime fox]

👍

[naive crane]

I never said I liked potatoepet

He is weird

With all the stuff he posted

It's just a slippery slope tbh

[lime fox]

lol looking at the log its just freaking out tons because he scans the assembly and then doesnt do anything about the soft dependency explosion, lemme see what else is there

[naive crane]

Btw does dissonance lag fix still work?

I didn't have it in the pack beforehand

[frigid dock]

Something is messing with items transforms anyway

I'm a bit bored of mod conflicts

[naive crane]

Mod conflicts are dumb

[unreal cargo]

explain waht u mean by that

lol

[naive crane]

But I mean one mod patches something another mod does and it's annoying

[unreal cargo]

it depends on the case, but most programmers (in lethal comp community anyway) dont really code their shit while also taking into consideration that other mods also exist

which is dumb but

whatever

[naive crane]

A lot of mods do that in all communities it's a very strange concept

[lime fox]

its mostly only lethal company

[naive crane]

And the code for lethal changes all the TIME

😭

[unreal cargo]

nah its not strange at all, its laziness lol

[naive crane]

For people I mean

Who code anyhow

To them it's like sacrilige

[unreal cargo]

lemme look up what that means real quick

[naive crane]

violation or misuse of what is regarded as sacred.

[lime fox]

also like not really true, update once every couple months, might change literally 1 line that would mean mods would need to just press 1 update and update their mods

[naive crane]

From what I heard sometimes people have to remake the whole mod

[unreal cargo]

ye they jus dont care and/or are lazy

[naive crane]

What a world we live in 😭

[unreal cargo]

yep lol

[lime fox]

been here 10 months, nearly a year, there has not been a lethal update that has caused any mod ever to do that from what i know

[naive crane]

Same here ish

9 months?

I think.

[unreal cargo]

its prob an excuse to say that they cba to update it rn

or are busy or somethin

[naive crane]

Weird

If you guys need any more logs I LITERALLY GOT Atlas Abyss

The worst... MOON with lethalmon atm

I was moving at 2 frames after a bit

[unreal cargo]

not enough people complain about those big maps raping fps lol

its like its done on purpose

[naive crane]

Is atlas abyss a big map?

[unreal cargo]

idk cant remember lol

[naive crane]

Tbh it's extremely small

[frigid dock]

Atlas abyss spawns a lot of masked

[unreal cargo]

i just know that like loads of modded maps are just fps killers

[naive crane]

^

Which is the worst with lethal mon

[frigid dock]

I'll push a fix when I'll have time

[wary dragon]

yay, let's goooo

[frigid dock]

0.6.6

• Greatly improved performances by caching a lot of things and reducing the number of AI calculations
• Fixed a bug that made the content of the balls not loaded properly and prevented other items from being loaded

LethalMon [v64 / 0.6.6]

It will fix the performance issues with the masked

[wary dragon]

thank youuu

[bright sandal]

hallelujah

[naive crane]

Did it fix the uh

Hoarding bug not holding anything

[frigid dock]

I wont spend an hour or more searching for this

[naive crane]

???

I mean it's a huge issue since it can't do it's job...

But at your own pace

I simply wanted to ask

[desert mulch]

My nutcracker spawned without a shotty and it tries to shoot slime and roaming locusts by just staring at them

[frigid dock]

Is there an error in the console when you spawn it?

[frigid dock]

Send me your modpack as file or code

[naive crane]

Ok

[thorny knot]

Did it fix invisible mimics (for clients)

[frigid dock]

It's working without any other mod so idk

[frigid dock]

I'll abandon this idea:

• The performances are horrible (-50% fps)
• This is a pain in the ass to do, especially to make it looks good and natural

I'll instead make a simple portal where you cannot see what's behind

[primal ferry]

Was a good one, but relatable choice :)

[sturdy tangle]

thats very fair, i don't think many will be seriously upset about that, especially if the core functionality is the same

[quick lake]

that seems like a better idea performance wise, yeah

[quick lake]

also forgor to do this for a few days, but now since we know the portal won't show what's on the other side we could have the portal be shaped like this, with the inside being an animated texture of some tv static?

sort of plays into the barber's horror theme I suppose!

[frigid dock]

I thought about space with twinkling stars

[quick lake]

that could work, the barber's also pretty whimsical like that

[bright sandal]

hmm

how could the barbers invisibility be incorporated into the portal texture

maybe the portal testure could always be "half-rendered"

idk

otherwise, itd be cool if the portal were some kinda trippy illusion

https://tenor.com/view/moving-formation-weaving-pattern-optical-illusion-art-gif-17178452

[tropic reef]

Hey, is it just me or whenever I try to use the mouthdog all the stamina drains insanely quickly and I can't do anything with it. (I can't even walk with the dog and he runs out of stamina insanely quick.)

[desert mulch]

no that's how it works

ig

they lose stamina over time while you are riding it, even faster while sprinting
dw tho it doesn't mean anything even at no stamina you can sprint

[quick lake]

just have it fade in when you're near

[sturdy tangle]

great ball isn't capable of being bought in the store, it just says "item not in stock" whenever i try to purchase one, all the other balls can be bought fine

[frigid dock]

It's a known issue

[sturdy tangle]

ah gotcha

[frigid dock]

Stamina drops quickly if you are heavy

What about these effects for the barber's wall cuts?

[sturdy tangle]

ooh i like those

they aren't too visually distracting but they are animated and fit with the design style of the game

[naive crane]

These are cool

[bright sandal]

whoaaa thats awesome

maybe a blue/red border would be slightly more thematic than the pink one tho

but that asde this looks dope af

[desert mulch]

ok I think I found something
itemfusion is really mad about nutcracker ai? idk employeeassignments was getting really confused after I killed the assignment target of a snare flea

[frigid dock]

[21:14:22.2912571] [Info   :Starlancer EnemyEscape] Adding EscapeComponent to NutcrackerEnemy(Clone). It may now roam freely.

[21:17:09.4022032] [Error  : Unity Log] IndexOutOfRangeException: Index was outside the bounds of the array.
Stack trace:
AddonFusion.Patches.NutcrackerEnemyAIPatch.NutcrackerFireGun (NutcrackerEnemyAI& __instance) (at ./Patches/NutcrackerEnemyAIPatch.cs:12)
(wrapper dynamic-method) NutcrackerEnemyAI.DMD<NutcrackerEnemyAI::FireGun>(NutcrackerEnemyAI,UnityEngine.Vector3,UnityEngine.Vector3)

Maybe these two mods create bugs

[desert mulch]

I'll try without either

[desert mulch]

it works but sometimes I have to put them back into their ball because they lose their shotty

[quick lake]

black would be better imo

[gleaming wind]

You could have it screenshot both portal sides as still images perhaps?

[rough pewter]

I think it's fine the way it is

This could be a drawback for the mon

You could cut a hole and end up in a hole tile

You'll never know where the hole will lead

[frigid dock]

It will never lead to a hole but you don't know if there will be a monster, turret or anything else nearby

[rough pewter]

Oh, I see

Good that it won't cause cheap hole deaths then

[frigid dock]

It can only happen in custom interiors if the designer places the vents above a hole

[thorny knot]

So the portals spawn at vent locations

Also, i think it would be cool if something got added to the texture/model to signify a monster is tamed (specifically added to avoid conflict with skin mods)

Also what creatures dont have a funcion yet?

[frigid dock]

At potential vent locations. In fact, only like 5% are potential vent locations are used

[frigid dock]

There is already the name above its

[frigid dock]

Almost all monsters are already designed

[rough pewter]

Giant, Manticoil, Earth Leviathan, and Coilhead aren't catchable yet

[desert mulch]

you could probably have the butler bees just bee circuit bees but maybe a less powerful stun in exchange for a cheaper price

[thorny knot]

I mean like a model would be cool

[bright sandal]

.

[bright sandal]

still a few more like jester, maneater, old bird and snare flea

[rough pewter]

Oh yeah

[bright sandal]

(and butler bees tho they seem a bit bland)

[dawn crystal]

would it be possible to make the old bird a delivery system
like, it holds your scrap, and then flys over to the ship outside and makes it be placed securly inside

[frigid dock]

There are already 2 monsters that can carry items so I don't think so

One thing that can be used is the flashlight

[dawn crystal]

well the idea is it delivers scrap to the ship for you and you continue to loot the building, making it unique from the others

but ok

[sturdy tangle]

Well yeah but being unique isn't the only thing that matters when you make a creature

I think what nysvaa is saying is why would you take something like a hoarding bug or a hygrodere if you could take something that does its job better, regardless of if it does it differently

I don't know what the plans are for the old bird, but I do like the idea of incorporating its flight mechanic when outdoors, maybe something like being able to jump on its back and let it fly you to wherever you tell it to go, but even that clashes with what the tulip snake already does

So yeah it's pretty hard, defo doable though

[frigid dock]

Yes that's what I meant

[coral prairie]

What are the plans for the maneater? I have an idea or two for it if nothing is planned yet.

[frigid dock]

It's already designed and a good part is already coded

[low stag]

An idea for Giant. He could have a mechanic where he can grab and throw the player across the rooms and while outside.

Advantages:

• A faster way for traveling
• Can be thrown upward or forward.

Disadvantages:

• Knowing where you want to throw yourself like accidently out of bounds or into quicksand can get you killed.
• Being throwing upward or forward at fast speed. Impact against any objects, walls, and ceilings can cause damage to player.

This idea just popped in my head when I got hit by an explosion from Old Bird that sent me flying.

[sturdy tangle]

giant is already designed iirc

he's going to be a shield

[dusty matrix]

Will the maneater be capturable as a baby? A "pet" maneater baby that won't murder you would be a dream come true.

[jovial ledge]

baby slavery

i will kidnap this baby and make it fight

[dusty matrix]

the only reasonable use

baby fight club

[bright sandal]

yo is anyone up to the challenge or does anyone know whether this is possible (it should be i think but just making sure)

[clever zodiac]

i feel like interior modders could use this portal trick to make some really strange interiors

[frigid dock]

0.6.7

• Barber is now catchable
• LethalMon AI is no longer added to enemies that are not catchable, in order to reduce unpredictable bugs on enemies from other mods

LethalMon [v64 / 0.6.7]

[quick lake]

gaaah it looks so freakin cool

great work!!!

[frigid dock]

Thanks 🙂

[tropic reef]

the barber doesn't seem to cut the walls at all. (Is there a certain condition the barber is needing to cut the wall or..)

[frigid dock]

Press B

@tropic reef

[tropic reef]

whoops. Thanks!

[naive crane]

Did you ever fix lootbugs not holding anything?

[frigid dock]

Send your modpack

[thorny knot]

code rebirth's shockwavegal kills tamed enemies, even worse ones still in the pokeballs

[frigid dock]

Arf

[thorny knot]

does this stand for already fixed orrrr?

[frigid dock]

No it's like a disappointed noise lol

[thorny knot]

oh ok

[frigid dock]

It's one more bug to fix in my to do list

[thorny knot]

me tring to figure out what something stands for:
it not standing for anything:

[thorny knot]

oh, oof

tho i dont know which mod would need to put code in to fix it (im not a coder)

[frigid dock]

I checked and it only exists in French, I thought it could be used in english

[thorny knot]

oh ok

[primal ferry]

Out of the box I'ld say it could be a missing check for inactive / disabled mons on their end, as that's what was causing the bracken to get angry at filled pokeballs some month ago too

But see that with a big "could" as I haven't checked it due to not being at home :)

[lime fox]

Yeah the sphere cast I use probably doesn't exclude inactive

I just check for surrounding EnemyAI that have canDie toggled on

[thorny knot]

So this is why my pore pikmans were murdered by it

[lime fox]

thinking about this, is it even possible for an overlap sphere to find inactive gameobjects/colliders?

well, added this justincase

lol

[low stag]

Anyone having trouble catching slime? I threw a master pokeball at it but it just goes through as if it's not catchable.

Also, is there a way to adjust the pokeball throw? When I was staring a Masked in the eye and threw a pokeball at him, my guy just decided it was a better a idea to randomly throw the ball diagnal and away from the Masked. Resulting me from catching him and having him strangle me.

[thorny knot]

grabs you i got a ztar

[violet shale]

WAIT NO WAY

THEY ADDED HIRED GOONS TO LETHAL COMPANY??

I CAN HAVE MY OWN HENCHMEN, MINIONS, UNDERLINGS, AND LACKEYS???

TO GO DO MY BIDDING???????

AMAZING!!!

[low stag]

Looks like he aint winning Mario Party. 😂

[violet shale]

also what do masked do??

when you hire them

[low stag]

Captured Masked allows you to safely wear its mask temporarily and see through walls.

[violet shale]

thumbsYEAH

[frigid dock]

Yeah I need to add a new collision box for the blob as the original one is weird

[frigid dock]

Were you walking diagonally? It takes into account the player's velocity

[thorny knot]

Why not make it its damage hitbox?

[frigid dock]

This is its damage hitbox

[thorny knot]

Oh? Odd

As in why isnt it the slime itself but only parts of the slime

[frigid dock]

As it turns around and push you it hits you easily. But for a ball that hits it at a specific point, it doesn't trigger anything

[thorny knot]

Ok

[low stag]

Ah that must've been why.

[coral prairie]

From what I saw in the code I believe those act as an anchors for the slime mesh to stretch to. I saw raycasts being use for what I believe to determine their position but I haven't looked into the slime's code for a while

[thorny sand]

uhh for some reason i can't buy the great ball. It says it's out of stock? I even put the whole name too

[jovial ledge]

Sorry the latest shipment got sold to some kid wanting to be the very best

[sturdy tangle]

yeah its a known issue

all the other balls work fine

[thorny sand]

ok thanks for letting me know, I thought it was because of conflicting mods

[frigid dock]

It's conflicting with the green suit

[thorny knot]

I heard his name was ass ketchup

[twilit summit]

Is it a currently known issue that Eyeless dog doesn't move at all when ridden?

[frigid dock]

No it is not. Please send me your modpack

[twilit summit]

0192e0ab-a15e-e2d9-8723-c4442a681a04

You're wonderful thank you!

[low stag]

Another known issue we still have is that when you place Pokeballs inside the locker, they sometimes clip through and fall out of bounce, causing you to lose it forever.

[frigid dock]

Afaik it's a vanilla issue when there are too much items in it

[twilit summit]

ooo thanks for letting me know

[twilit summit]

Also let me know if any assistance is required!

[frigid dock]

I don't when I'll have time to investigate this

[twilit summit]

I just tested it myself and it seems to work suddenly?...Maybe it was just the save file or multiplayer only.

[frigid dock]

You tested it in solo?

It can be because of multiplayer

[twilit summit]

Yeah, tested in solo when it works.

When playing with my party last time, none of us could move the dog

I'll try to get somebody to help test it out soon but it's a pretty busy day.

[frigid dock]

I can test it easily don't worry

[thorny sand]

How do I get the masked to lend the mask?

[primal ferry]

There's a tooltip on the top right telling you which key to press. Iirc it was P but don't mark my words

[thorny sand]

thats to retrive the ball

btw theres also this bug

I made a hoard bug, nut cracker, and a bracken. Relaunch the server and there seems to be 3 brackens instead of my bug and nutcracker, also they were in different balls.

[sturdy tangle]

The right key is B

For mon interactions

[primal ferry]

Oh ye you're right. Thank you

[twilit summit]

Pressing B (my default hotkey) to activate certain mon's abilities (such as Masks and Baboon Hawks) causes nothing to occur, and for a weird output in the console log to be given. I forgot what it said since it was last night but I can go and re-check later.

This was done in a solo game, enemy spawned and then captured with a spawned masterball.

[thorny sand]

Anyone know why I can't seem to give my hoarding bug my item? The prompt is not showing

[dawn crystal]

hoarding bugs collect items that you havent found

[frigid dock]

It should also have an interaction that you can use to give it the item you want

[thorny sand]

Not to be a hassle, but can you tell which mod that might be making it so that the bug can't take my held item?

0192f41f-9dd6-0edd-a953-02b832ffebe9

[frigid dock]

I already saw this bug but idk

[thorny sand]

okk

[twilit summit]

Currently, when pressing "P" to recall a pokemon, sometimes you get stuck into a thrown state where you cannot pick up items, interact with anything, (including doors) etc.

You can fix it by pressing P again- I've seen the bug in a few others mods and even vanilla as well with thrown items so it's not isolated to LethalMon.

But it seems recalling pokemon causes it to happen consistently for us

Hope it's not a bother posting so much Nysvaa, just figure it'd be helpful for pinning down and fixing issues.

[frigid dock]

I know that there are a lot of issues with my mod but I don't have the time neither the motivation to work on the mod currently

[lime fox]

[quick lake]

it's all good bestie, ya gotta take a break from time to time!!

[twilit summit]

Fair enough

[quick lake]

deal w the stuff you gotta deal w first, that's whats most important

[lavish quiver]

So, the kidnapper fox doesn't come out of its ball when I throw it
Do I need to use the mod that reintroduces the critter?

[frigid dock]

Maybe try with yesfox

[scenic ocean]

I'm using yesfox but when I've used balls on the Fox they went right through it so the capture never triggered

[thorny knot]

Have you updated the mod? That was the issue for me

Lethalmon btw

[scenic ocean]

Yes it's up to date

[thorny knot]

Ok

Idk then

[clear bluff]

Dunno how long ago this has been said, when using Lethalmon after you throw the pokeball out to get the monster out and when you want to call it back in the ball you get bugged from picking up items oor interacting with other things. Anyone know a fix for this issue?

[last vessel]

how does one

buy great balls?

it says it's not in stock

[dawn crystal]

its bugged atm

[lavish quiver]

Get terminal conflict fix

[serene adder]

i have an idea for bigger catchable creatures like forest keeper to work fine, make them only releaseable in exterior

if u try to release them in interior, it do nothing

[thorny knot]

With this logic, dogs at full size would fit inside

[low stag]

Forest keeper will likely be shruken down to an appropriate size just like how they did with dog, thumper, and spider.

[serene adder]

somehow i can charge the pokeball

[bright sandal]

automatically makes ur pokemon an electric type

[outer cape]

Mega evolution?

[rustic latch]

Why cant i mount caught spore lizards and tulip snakes?

[thorny knot]

Na, electric type terastallisation

[thorny knot]

https://tenor.com/view/bidoof-ultrakill-p-2-sisyphus-sisyphus-prime-gif-447937678362014690

[prime plover]

Damn, no updates? 😭

[frigid dock]

I moved to other personal projects, I sadly have no more time (nor motivation) for this project

[weary bloom]

[frigid dock]

But the project is open source, if you want to fork the project or open a PR, it is up to you: https://github.com/Feiryn/LethalMon

[thorny knot]

So, decrepitated

[frigid dock]

Afaik it's still working

[thorny knot]

I thaught decrepitated was for no longer maintained

[dawn crystal]

its not deprecated

[thorny knot]

Ok

[dawn crystal]

its just nysvaa lost motivation, doesnt mean its 100% deprecated

[thorny knot]

Oh ok

[frigid dock]

If an update completely breaks the mod I'll maybe take a few hours to fix it

[thorny knot]

Kk

This was a good mod

But now the only updates are maintanence

Better than none-

[low stag]

I think the catchable monsters we have for now are as fine as it goes. Big monsters like the Old Bird, Giant, and Earth Leviathan are best not being catchable due to their size. The other remaining monsters seemed pretty hard to come up with unique abilities for that would be appropriate to their character. Overall this is still one of the best mods out there.

[prime plover]

I have to 200% agree with this.

[thorny knot]

yeah, just saying what about when more monsters are added

[prime plover]

Its kinda sad to see that this popular mod is being shelved behind, tho at one point, i would have gotten Coilheads or the Forest Giant by now. 😭

[primal ferry]

Sorry about that :/ But looking back at what Nysvaa and i have achieved with both of us being relatively new to modding i still see it as a great project that might've been a bit behind the hype.
I'm always here to help anyone out who want to help out and continue this mod for us 💙

[prime plover]

Dude, i really want my Coilhead or my Jester by then 😭 i will definitely donate you again at some point tho. I REALLY LOVE THIS FLIPPIN MOD

Just give me till like next 2 weeks and i swear on my word, i will donate you as much as i can. You got my support Niro!

[prime plover]

Damn, no one is continuing the mod anymore. This mod is just too good to just leave it to waste

[weary bloom]

They mentioned they would probably keep maintaining it but not adding more features. Maybe someone would pick it up later or Niro / Nysvaa would find motivation to keep working on it but for now it is what it is.

[prime plover]

Yeah that is why i did ask in the general chat if anyone is willing to take over them and continue with the mod. This mod is too good to left to waste to be honest.

[prime plover]

Any takers to continue this mod project? 🤔 We can further discuss the amount of the donation...

[unreal cargo]

1 billion ugandan dollar

[prime plover]

Lol

[tame cliff]

yea so currently balls just disppear when catching an enemy (or spawning one) most of the time.

[primal ferry]

Are there any errors in the log?

[daring hull]

a

[prime plover]

anyone is still have the knowledge to code for Lethalmon? I really felt bad seeing such a good mod has gone down wasted,

[tidal sage]

whats wrong with it?

[prime plover]

The mod hasnt been updated for a very long time

Also by right, Coilhead and Manticoil should be out by now spoilers

[tidal sage]

I haven't noticed any issues with the mod

been using it for a week

only problem is as the host I cannot retrieve mons for some reason

but my friends can

[prime plover]

Gg. Anyways, out of context, me and my buddy are developing a cool mod that even nobody modded it till today, interested?

[prime plover]

.

[primal ferry]

^ update: keyboard was seen as controller and therefore the keybinding didn't work as intended. Was not a bug within the mod

[sturdy tangle]

i know people are upset about no new content for the mod, and i am too, but thank you sincerely niro for committing to keeping the mod functional

its still my favorite mod to have been released for this game, tying with wesleys moons, in terms of general gameplay this adds so much and had this mod been deprecated and unplayable i would have been heartbroken

[primal ferry]

No problem, will try what i can to at least fix the gamebreaking bugs. Visual bugs and incompatibilities may remain unfixed due to limited time (and interest tbh). Still there to teach other modders our code if they want to continue development on this one in the future

[tidal sage]

very respectable!

[tidal sage]

@primal ferry Umm sometimes the UI wont popup when u throw a mon out

which makes it to where u cant recall

it consistently happens when throwing out bees

[tidal sage]

and some mons u just cant return

spider wont return for me

[primal ferry]

Are there any errors in the log?

[tidal sage]

I'll check next time around

despite fixing the game reading me as console, most lethalmons would not retrieve for some reason

butler and hoarding bug seem to be consistent

I think its just a me problem atp

idk

[tidal sage]

I think I fixed it

I disabled controller input all across my computer as well as steam

apologies for the false alarms

I believe it detects wooting as a controller due to the compatibility

[frigid dock]

Hello, if someone encounters a bug caused by the new update, please report it there

[lavish quiver]

Not sure what's causing it but so far Masked and foxes don't appear when their ball is thrown

[sturdy tangle]

Got a barber out of a pokeball that spawned inside, used it to cut open a portal and then when i teleported i was pushed out of the map and i fell to my death

[frigid dock]

0.6.8

• Update netcode patcher CLI for v73

LethalMon [v73 / 0.6.8]

[quick lake]

PEAK

[prime plover]

Hold on, this mod is still ongoing?!

[robust fox]

So how unlikely would it be for some compatibility mod between CodeRebirth and LethalMon?

Not made by the creators themselves of course, they have their own work and lives.

Just a fan attachment type thing done for fun, started by someone who knows nothing of code really, and is just a writer.

Anything unrealistic about that whatsoever?

[robust fox]

So I got a bug report list

(When an enemy is brought up, assume it means the Tamed version)

Minor Bugs:
● Circuit Bees don't have any UI that shows up in the top right corner.
● Nutcrackers' shotguns sometimes disappear and stop working after teleporting to their owner from long distances.
● Kidnapper Foxes sometimes freeze up and stop working when in the facility, though the cause seems inconsistent (UI says something about an unknown behavior state).
● Brackens can get stuck on cabinets and other objects when grabbing an enemy, and will drag them in place indefinitely (in my testing, eventually they get unstuck and properly started dragging them away, but it took around 30 seconds).
● Eyeless Dogs will get stuck in their sprinting animation whilst walking after sprinting at least once.
● Tulip Snakes cannot fly you out of or into the ship, acting as if the entrance is a wall.

Minor Non-Bug Issues:
● Masked's mask becomes much too obstructive when in the light, and cannot be taken off without returning the Masked.
● Nutcrackers stop being able to move when shooting.
● Nutcrackers target unkillable monsters.
● Tulip Snakes walk on their owner's head rather than snapping on like hostile variants.

Major Bugs:
● Sometimes, seemingly at random, people will not be able to return any monsters whatsoever. This seems to target specific people in the lobby (A temporary solution would be to let people replace their current monsters by throwing out another one).
● Some Monsters seem to not save in balls on game exit, consistently the Bracken and Nutcracker seem to not save and turn into empty balls instead.

DeSync problems:
● The angle of monsters seems to be inconsistent, sometimes standing diagonally.
● Nutcrackers appear to teleport around when standing still and firing when watched by other people.
● When a monster returns automatically after the ship leaves, the ball it appears in will not exist for some players, but re-appears when picked up by a player that can see it.

[frigid dock]

0.6.9

• Fixed a bug that made clients unable to retrieve monsters using P

LethalMon [v73 / 0.6.9]

[frigid dock]

Thanks for the bugs report!

[rich saddle]

that would actually be cool

But what about these? We still need to somehow capture all the vanilla monsters if possible

[robust fox]

Actively being worked on right now actually!

[rich saddle]

And not to forget the newly added Sapsucker

[rich saddle]

nice

[robust fox]

I can't say any of this is official, but I've been concepting a lot of stuff for the base LethalMon recently

The CodeRebirth stuff is still planned, but being pushed to the side for now

[rich saddle]

And about the Nutcracker targeting immortal enemies bug, I think that should be a config feature, for those that have a mod that makes them able to be killed

[robust fox]

That is also planned, adding a blacklist system

[rich saddle]

should be a bool

[rich saddle]

ok nvm this

[robust fox]

I will say, despite the concepts, still don't have much of a team

[rich saddle]

I would want to, but not have much time and knowledge to do

barely even making and publishing an audio replacement mod, how embarassing

[robust fox]

I'm just saying it as a general thing, so don't get too excited about the concepts stated, as none of it is guaranteed

[rich saddle]

What am I looking at in the first and last image?

[dawn crystal]

mining helmet from legmr moon
bozo-apparatus from bozoros' interior

[rich saddle]

thanks

the helmet looks strange

[rich saddle]

helmets*

[dawn crystal]

its just that big normally

its so peam,,

[rich saddle]

oh, it's just scrap, it would've looked strange if you really could wear that as equipment

[dawn crystal]

@frigid dock barbers are permanently in the aggroed state from failed catch when they spawn in

[dawn crystal]

caught barber doesnt seem to work in wesleys interiors very well also

[robust fox]

So, news about the mod...

We have not done anything yet!

Yeah apologies, unfortunately we don't have a coder. We have the concepts and such, but writing doesn't accomplish much when trying to build something.

So yeah, until further notice, this mod is at a stand still (at least my variation of it). Again, sincere apologies.

[prime plover]

Hehe, not really. Cause i just dropped a video that is about to go wow. XD

[prime plover]

working on Snare Flea now! For more details, DM me (:

[prime plover]

Guys, I might be coding Forest Giant though, any suggestions? 🤔

[frigid dock]

Hi, I see that some of you are interested to improve the mod. Thanks for writing its future! I personally moved to other projects, and I don't have the time neither the motivation to work on it. I don't even play LC anymore.
If you make changes to LethalMon, you can either make a PR to the github repo, and your changes will likely be merged and released in a new version, or you can make your own version of the mod and publish it. Please note that the license states that public releases of the mod forked from the main code must also be open source. It helps people see what's inside and continue/contribute to it if needed.

[prime plover]

thanks but im making my own flair to it! Right now, i am working on Forest Giant as we speak! (:

[prime plover]

well, i will be positing the forest giant update here! Technically, the "eat" animation that giants do is hardcoded on players only but hey, at least the attack logic is there! (:

and btw, this is not lethalmon update, its a mod that is like the "predecessor" to Lethalmon but in my own flair and style! (:

[prime plover]

juat a..small update in my own mod, now the terminal allows you to purchase your own bodyguards (: its like Lethalmon but with a twist and my own flair :3 if i cant post the image here, let me know i will delete it straight away. (:

[primal ferry]

I don't mind if people fork the mod and make their own things out of it, as long as it's communicated like that to the public. Don't want to hype up people on things that potentially won't come.

To be clear, the main developers of this mod continued with other games, projects or have to focus more on their real life and thus won't have time to work more on this mod. Everything that's happening from here on is not in our hands.
You can always contact me about code related questions if you aim to work on this. For any updates from the community, I'll be there to review and accept pull requests.

For mods forked from this one please create a new thread. You can link it here for advertising purposes, though. That's fine for me

If you aim to continue this mod, please contact me or Nysvaa first and (later) get a pull request up, before posting videos, notes or anything here.

I want to avoid creating false / unfulfilled expectations, but also support those who bring new features to this mod.

[prime plover]

Got it!

[light torrent]

How hard are the poke balls to get?

[sturdy shard]

Modded Monster compat real

[native notch]

Rn as of what i have seen my friend cannot join with lethalmon active

[vapid escarp]

Ey how is this mod doing ? it is in my top 10 mods

[vapid escarp]

You pay for them in the terminal or you find them as random scrap, sometimes already containing a lethalmon in it

[prime plover]

i actually i did posted in the mod ideas but because people are so toxic to AI related stuff, that is why i just scrap it off. So, i might be doing it in the near future? But now i am working on a utility mod as of right now (:

[primal ferry]

People aren't "toxic" towards AI related stuff, they're sceptical. AI can be a great tool in the right hands, but it isn't fully covering the work of a developer as of now, especially when creating things not many have done yet

[dawn crystal]

its not really about skepticism

its the fear of meaning behind human engenuity and hard work being tainted

especially in the art scene

[primal ferry]

wouldn't say that as of now for the coding scene. for art scene i sadly agree

it's one of the downsides of AI. some generated things feel "soulless"

[prime plover]

I see.

[frigid dock]

0.6.10

• Update mod for v80

LethalMon [v80 / 0.6.10]

[burnt sinew]

Is there a new version / page of LethalMon?
Assuming it's been updated for v80 / v81, the site I have still labels it as v64 in the description.
(I do see in the changelog that v0.6.10 says it's updated for v80, but I just wanted to double check)

[frigid dock]

It's indeed v80 but I forgot to change it in the manifest. I will change it

[light torrent]

I know this is probably a dumb question but can I battle my friends Pokémon?

Also do I make it attack by hitting something or does something have to hit me

Thanks!

[frigid dock]

It is not possible to make mons battle.
They attack on sight or if you get hit

[light torrent]

Ah Alr

Can I make them attack my friend if my friend hits me with a shovel

[frigid dock]

I don't remember if it does

But the nutcracker doesn't care if your friend is on the way

Or if you are

[light torrent]

been having issues with hygroderes not damaging players upon contact?

gives me some warnings to do with this mod

[17:16:41.2380607] [Warning: LethalMon] No TamedEnemyBehaviour component found after EnemyAI SwitchToBehaviourStateOnLocalClient
[17:16:41.2390584] [Warning: LethalMon] No TamedEnemyBehaviour component found after EnemyAI SwitchToBehaviourStateOnLocalClient

[heady hare]

Sorry, meow, the Lethal Company Modding community has restricted the ability to share links to that specific platform. Please use modmail if you have any questions or this is an important link, mew!

[quick lake]

ok this server hates fun so I can't post the link nor will it embed

[heady hare]

Sorry, meow, the Lethal Company Modding community has restricted the ability to share links to that specific platform. Please use modmail if you have any questions or this is an important link, mew!

[quick lake]

but I found this cool ass pokemon fangame trailer that's called Lethalmon.

Looks fucking sick asf and reminded me that this mod is also sick asf and I need to try it again!!

[primal ferry]

maybe post it without the http / https or if it's youtube then only the query parameter (starting with "?")

okay, i see some videos when searching for lethalmon. they may took some inspirations, at least with the name ^^ may watch it later, not from work

[frigid dock]

I saw videos of this fangame at the same time I started this mod more or less, I think we both had the same name idea

[quick lake]

oh good call! i'll look and see if there's a yt trailer yeah