LethalMon [v80 / 0.6.10]

[frigid dock]

And nothing too

It's up to you

[prime plover]

I pretty want my Spidey to get catchable, that is all i ask. And the reason?

Most Experimental maps i have been...THEY ARE ALWAYS THERE.

[lime fox]

ye ofc

[prime plover]

@primal ferry and @frigid dock send me your paypal email acc through DMs, i will pay you right now, i almost forgot that i just got my paycheck

[primal ferry]

sent :)

[frigid dock]

I don't have a PayPal account anymore... I'll setup a donation page after work

[prime plover]

Ohhh okay sure

Btw, i might start giving out more to the both of you once you guys are working on the Coilhead and the Jester.

Those two are a pretty annoying bunch too.

[jaunty aurora]

how can you make the cupboard so tidy?

[primal ferry]

LittleCompany

with the Shrink Ray

[jaunty aurora]

Does that mod allow you to sort cupboard items by certain location?

[dawn crystal]

just do this lul

[primal ferry]

No, it's only for resizing things (enemies, items, vehicle and furniture)

[paper cloud]

Setup a kofi

it is nice and they don't take as much from you

It's what I did for donations and it is pretty nice

[prime plover]

Can kofi accept paypal?

[paper cloud]

I think so!

[prime plover]

Okok, but seriously, the developers did a big brain move to make this game fun and work at the same time

[frigid dock]

Here's an oversight of one of the features of the spider

Here is also the PC I'm working on

[rough pewter]

So cool

[prime plover]

LESSSSSGOOOOO

[paper cloud]

lmaooo

love it a lot

[lime fox]

pov u hate eyes

[primal ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/flash-dark-theme-light-theme-cat-gif-20974297

I love the desktop screen with the 4 icons! Looks so cool

[thorny knot]

https://tenor.com/view/flash-bang-gif-12096212933201526184

[prime plover]

Thats me

[thorn crescent]

i like how he keeps looking at u when u bounce lol

[quick lake]

that shit looks so peak dude, great job

[prime plover]

Spider: shoots a web towards the human

Human: starts bouncing on it Wheee! This is like a giant spider trampoline!

Spider: facepalms Great, just what I needed—my web as a human amusement park.

[prime plover]

Let me know once you set up your Paypal acc fyi

[prime plover]

waiting for my Spider to be on the shelves (:

[frigid dock]

Nevermind I won't setup a paypal account, I hate this service

[lime fox]

looool

[frigid dock]

I thought you could receive payments anonymously but that's not the case, they share everything on you

[lime fox]

yep

[prime plover]

Ohhh okay then

[prime plover]

Then what about kofi?

[frigid dock]

Same

[prime plover]

Okok up to you

[frigid dock]

Thanks to @gleaming wind for the model

[prime plover]

Oh that's sick af looks like a mini pokemon centre but in Lethal lol

[quick lake]

this model's so goated

[frigid dock]

Ikr

[static pike]

omg can't wait to know what it does

[prime plover]

Heck, i cant wait for the Spider update XD

Need to add it to my monster collections

[frigid dock]

Spoiler:

• Tutorial icon: || Will show a tutorial with all the information in order to play and enjoy the mod ||
• Dex icon: || Shows a dex for known monsters with captures rates and behaviour. Dex entries can be unlocked by scanning balls with a monster inside. Entries will be saved between saves ||
• Scan icon: || Scans a ball. If a monster is inside, it will unlock the corresponding dex entry. If the monster's DNA is complete (= a fresh monster you just captured), it will unlock the ability to clone it in an empty ball. Monsters that you find already in balls in the dungeon will have a deteriorated DNA (because of time) and duplicated ones only uses a part of the original DNA so it is incomplete too. Same as the dex, DNA will be saved between saves ||
• Duplicate icon: || Duplicates a monster's DNA previously unlocked in an empty ball ||
• Bonus: || There will later be hidden things but I won't say more about it ||

[prime plover]

Ooooohhh next update i see 😎

[light rampart]

|| v64 is ouT already no way😳 ||

[prime plover]

ARE YOU SERIOUS?

[light rampart]

YEAH : O

[prime plover]

DAMN IT. IM AT WORK

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-18173080

[light rampart]

it's worth the wait dw

[frigid dock]

Did you try the mod?

Is it working?

[light rampart]

going to right this moment : )

sadly not no pokeballs in the store

[frigid dock]

Oh

Maybe LethalLib broke

[primal ferry]

hmm i see them.. maybe a mod incompatibility

[sturdy shard]

how though

[primal ferry]

using 0.16.0 of lethallib though

[frigid dock]

Idk

[sturdy shard]

LethalLib worked with V64 beta

[frigid dock]

It was my first guess

[primal ferry]

tested with the newest LethalLib 0.16.1 and it still works, so it's not that

[frigid dock]

It works for me too

[light rampart]

Yeah it works now one of my QoL mods must've been messing with the store ig

[light rampart]

Lethalmon is v64 compatible

[quick lake]

https://tenor.com/view/tien-dbz-dragon-ball-z-tienshinhan-taiyoken-gif-8019791

[dawn crystal]

its been in the beta for like 3 days

[prime plover]

But i coudlnt see the update on Steam

[dawn crystal]

the beta version has to be accessed a different way

[prime plover]

Oh how tho? Can you teach me haha

[dawn crystal]

you right click the game in your steam library and then go to properties and then betas and switch

[prime plover]

Ohhh.

[prime plover]

oh look, my master ball is floating. 😄

[rough pewter]

Happens when you recall your ball sometimes

Might also happen if you leave the planet while your monster is out

[sleek gull]

Just now looked into this. At least part of how Lethalmon makes the bracken docile by disabling the EnemyAI component. The nymph updates when that component's update method is called, and disabling prevents that. I might do a workaround eventually. Or expose the enemy event handlers so this mod could call OnEnemyUpdate each frame where appropriate.
Also @frigid dock if you want compat with the skin registry, I added a getter that will let you get the skin attached to a given enemy and a method that'll let you reassign a skin whenever. You could use those two methods to make it so the registry doesn't randomly pick a new skin every time the enemy is sent out. Could be done without a hard dependency.

[frigid dock]

Okay thank you! I will make a public API soon for other modders to implement their own custom enemies or skins. And I'll improve the skin registry compatibility too

[light rampart]

Thanks for looking into this! That makes a lot of sense why the nymph isn't updating properly.

[rough pewter]

Bracken glitches out when trying to grab the Horseshoot Crab from https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1253438625958592522

[frigid dock]

Okay, I opened an issue for that

[rough pewter]

Also figured out that the balls have another use now with the new throw mechanic

[dawn crystal]

you could always do this with items

stun grenades, easter eggs, and soccer balls are the best for it

but every item can trigger landmines

nutcrackers can even kill themselves if they start scanning next to a staircase and move the shotgun across a landmine on it

[bright sandal]

yooo i havent checked this thread in a while but that looks sick

im assuming thats the dex computer?

[bright sandal]

YOOO that's sick!!

only recommendation i have is to have the screen a bit closer to the player so you can read the text better

[frigid dock]

It's been reworked a lot

[bright sandal]

ah k

[sturdy shard]

[frigid dock]

I'm currently working on improving our best friend

[light rampart]

Very handy!

[quick lake]

yeah but these you can throw with no risk

cuz with stuns you should be using blanks, cuz otherwise you're wasting a perfectly good grenade

and with eggs they can blow up

then soccer balls aren't that common so, this is probably the best item to use the tech with

[frigid dock]

0.5.3

• Spider is now catchable
• Hoarder bug can hold items the owner gives him
• Improved and optimized the line of sight of a lot of tamed monsters, and most will work outside now
• Bees are working way better now
• Hoarder bug no longer brings the same item multiple times
• Fixed a bug that prevented the player from dying from some monsters while on a puffer

LethalMon [v64 / 0.5.3 - alpha]

Oh and I forgot but the fox is now disabled

[primal ferry]

Was leading to bugs as its enemyType got removed from the game in recent updates. Once it's back we will make it catchable again

[rough pewter]

YIPPEEEEE

Huge win for the Loot bug mafia

[rough pewter]

Using Sober ship doesn't fix this issue?

(Mod that adds the fox + vain shrouds back)

[primal ferry]

Don't want to add it as a hard dependency to this mod. May try to find a solution by myself later to get it back in, but it's not on a high prio right now

[rough pewter]

Alrighty

[prime plover]

Goddamn my brother, the Spider is a game changer

[scenic ocean]

Oh no I loved the tamed Fox he's so cool ! Hope he gets back in the official game soon

[primal ferry]

I loved him too :/ hoping with you

[kindred kayak]

Hey im looking for some help, when i try to order the great ball it auto corrects to the green suit and shows its not in stock. Is there any way to fix this?

[primal ferry]

Not as of now, but we're aware of this issue

[kindred kayak]

Oh okay thanks

[oak edge]

are the maneaters planned for this mod? that would be adorable to have a pet maneater protect you from enemies

[primal ferry]

It's round about 70% done I would say. Animations and multiplayer testing left. Due to its complexity and my (slightly) stressful irl the last two weeks I have found motivation to give it the final touch it needs. Once I can put more focus in programming I'll finish it :)

[prime plover]

Damn 70% already?! That's fast. Godspeed.

[prime plover]

But i wonder what those guys can even do 🤔

[prime plover]

Now that i think of it there are only 5 monsters left that are uncatchable - Jester, Coil-Head, Maneater (70% done), Forest Giant and Old Bird, anything else i missed? 🤔

[jovial ledge]

Earth leviathan

[prime plover]

But then one qusstion becomes - if the Leviathan is catchable, how do we even catch lol

💀

[jovial ledge]

Yeah, make it a legendary lethal mon lol

[prime plover]

True but like Leviathan is underground so, like you need the right time at the right place when it shoots out

[prime plover]

.

[primal ferry]

Jup.. it will be challenging ^^

[rough pewter]

Catch it when it's doing it's pop out animation

The body is visible for a few seconds during that time

[primal ferry]

Best seems to be to run in a direction. Once you see the ground animation, run backwards while still looking forward, wait a second, then throw shortly before its visible. Quite tricky though

Any ideas for its escape behaviour?

[bright sandal]

badum tsss

[bright sandal]

alr????? dayum bro you're fast, try not to burn yourself out/stress yourself too much, this mod is alr epic ❤️

[quick thistle]

it reforms above ground, perfectly horizontal, pointing directly at the player who attempted such a heinous, foolish act and proceeds to slide across the ground a "short" distance before slowly diving below ground again (with the player who threw the ball probably in its stomach)

i could not find anything to represent my thought process but i found spongebob

https://tenor.com/view/seemtagiliszta-giliszta-gif-23079198

now that i think about it basically Dune's sandworms

[bright sandal]

it appears perfectly vertical and just collapses onto the nearest player (run or you become pancake)

[bright sandal]

so eyeless dog but huge XD

that would be so funny

[quick thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-gif-8890329830311161961

[bright sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/for-whom-the-bells-jingle-for-whom-the-bells-toll-lethal-company-lc-lc-dog-gif-6445523681451019681

[quick thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/jolly-jollyposting-silly-lethal-company-meme-gif-11320829054246099441

[quick lake]

it immediately becomes active again and teleports to your current location to attack again

cuz when levis do their attack they actually re-start their normal behavior after 10 or so second on the place they landed, so they have to wander around and make their way back to you

it's funny cuz their pathing breaks out of bounds sometimes so on places like assurance they just jump out and never appear again cuz they can't path back

I think a cool ability would be to allow you to teleport into or out of interiors and exteriors once per round with your items

Outside:
You throw the ball down and immediately a patch on the ground with the ground particle effects appears. You step into it and let it grab ya, the screen turns black, then you're teleported somewhere random inside

Additionally, if it hits anything (player or monster) on its way up or down it's just deleted

[bright sandal]

on mineshaft interiors, you have a higher chance to be randomly teleported into the cave tiles

[quick lake]

Inside:
Then for inside it's like, the same thing but in reverse, and you're teleported on an AI node to prevent the player from TP'ing into a spot they're 100% unable to get out of

[quick thistle]

the eyeless dog who was wondering when their next meal would appear (dinner just got served):

https://tenor.com/view/transitions-kinemaster-black-guy-suit-tiktok-gif-25279479

actually just thought of something about that

when it releases you onto the surface it also 'attacks' eating anything in close proximity to the ai node, saving you from imminent danger/spawnkill

[quick lake]

Mhm, was gonna say that

[quick thistle]

which eradicates the issue of eyeless dogs just getting a full course meal doordashed to their legs

[bright sandal]

hmmm that feels a lil cheap tbh, kinda defeats the point of finding the exits

[quick lake]

well you have to capture an earth levi

I'd imagine they'd have the lowest catch rate of any entity, up there at top 3 with old birds and jesters

[bright sandal]

plus theyre difficult to catch as is

hmmm

ig you're right, ye

[quick thistle]

considering earth leviathans havent been captured before in lore it'd probably also be cool if there wasnt much info on them

[bright sandal]

also if it's a "patch of ground", perhaps you could take your fellow employees with you

[quick lake]

also you wouldn't be able to both go in and out using the levi

[quick thistle]

if you get tp'd out of the facility it should fly down towards you, crashing through the walls

this is the biggest requirement for the EL because then you can tell your friend "no one will believe you" and disappear into its mouth leaving nothing after it is gone

[quick lake]

like I said it'd be one time use, so you could basically have a safe inverse with items or a semi-safe normal tp with all your scrap

[quick thistle]

im not sure how i feel about 1 time use abilities

it always feels kinda bad to me personally but i prefer equipment/utilities being constants in my gameplay

[bright sandal]

1 time use per round, i assume?

honestly i prefer it just have a large cooldown (kinda like the inverse alr has)

[quick thistle]

now all this mod needs is lethalhands compatibility so that when you fail to capture a masked it immediately throws hands

[quick lake]

yeah

[quick thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/raiden-raiden-metal-gear-metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-armstrong-metal-gear-gif-25495293

[quick lake]

that would also work

255 cooldown

[quick lake]

true, it could be a bit punishing

[quick thistle]

punishing isnt the right word but rather limiting

you are forced to make a decision that dictates how useful that item is for the entirety of the round

[quick lake]

maybe two uses per round? you could worm out and then worm your friend in

[quick thistle]

is it saving you? is it getting you in faster? how does it compare to alternatives such as inverse? was it worth it to bring the pokeball?

[quick lake]

with low cooldown

[quick thistle]

uses is never a great idea unless there is legitimate reason for it imo

uses as a balancing aspect of an ability or item really falls short if you consider it

[bright sandal]

i alr like worm just being a method of fast travel with the bonus that it demolishes every enemy in its path tbh

[quick thistle]

stun grenades in LC are exempt because
A. its cheap
B. it has use after its initial detonation
C. it makes a lot of sense

[quick thistle]

gotta consider other catchable monsters, what good do they do compared to the worm?

[bright sandal]

feel like "inverse" is a lil too much and also doesn't fit as well

[quick thistle]

i think it can be executed beautifully with proper care and adjustments, it's not just an inverse/tp but one with both drawbacks and advantages

you keep your items but are misplaced
you are safe but in dangerous territory

it fits the worm's character
it fits a niche not yet explored

however as for the capture failure

i believe my idea works as both a fun, gimmicky 'attack' that is original and a consequence that can be fatal (think nutcracker with their 360 degree room clear)

if the EL were to just conjure at your feet upon failure then it could feel bad or have issues such as making the EL go into the facility if you enter before its done escaping

it also would be nothing new in terms of an attack making it not that interesting outside of the imminent danger it poses if you are already experienced with what happens

but thats just my thoughts, every idea has merit and the worm being directly under your feet does create a consequence and some action

my only 2 concerns i can put down atm: if the worm's counter is to appear below your feet,
-is it too easy to escape?
-is it too hard to escape?

too easy and it makes no difference
too hard and you wont risk it because it most likely guarantees death

[bright sandal]

hygrodere (blob) and barber (and manticoil maybe?)

can anyone think of literally anything for barber 💀

oh maybe he can cut the masks off of masked players to revive them

how very not specific at all

(its stupid ik but i literally have no other ideas)

[prime plover]

The only thing i would like to suggest is i want a monster to be able to navigate to the entrances or the Fire Exits

XD

[oak edge]

hygrodere could probably heal players but damage enemies that stand in it

[bright sandal]

idk about the healing part but having the slime contort into a kind of shield/barrier is actually a rlly cool idea

imaagine using a hygrodere to block a doorway so monsters can't come in/get damaged as they do

[frigid dock]

Hygrodere is already finished

[bright sandal]

guh???

it is?????

XD

[frigid dock]

The centipede will heal

[frigid dock]

There are few bugs to fix before the release

[bright sandal]

sry mb then

what does it do rn

[frigid dock]

You can drop items on it and it will carry them

Max 4

It will be slow however, but you can speed up with a boombox

[bright sandal]

o cool

so all that's left is:

• old bird
• earth leviathan
• barber
• jester
• coil-head

(idk about manticoils and maneater is currently being made)

[frigid dock]

Forest giant behaviour is already designed

[bright sandal]

damn i have not been catching up with the development at all 💀

what the forest giant do

[quick lake]

it lends you its invisibility

[frigid dock]

Takes damages done to you and dies instead of you

Basically a consumable shield

Or a bonus life

[primal ferry]

Barber must be the hardest to come up with ideas for

Invisibility lending would be nice but also kinda close to the hiding shrouds of the fox, once it's back

[quick lake]

Cuts down trees, Vain shrouds, attacks Forest keepers, cuts turret wires, lends invisibility, there's a few things you can do

[quick lake]

didn't know that idea came through for the fox, the readme just says it attacks enemies w its tongue

[dawn crystal]

yes the fox generated blue vain shrouds

and the player can hide in them

[primal ferry]

Walking through walls as long as there is no player or enemy nearby, regarding how hard it is to do (might be impossible though)

For barber

[quick lake]

I had the idea of allowing Barbers to get rid of outside props for better cruiser traversal, along with cutting the wires off certain hazards and Old birds, attacking Forest keepers

[quick lake]

Barber isn't like, intangible, that's the thing, it just becomes invisible

though it's not a bad idea

[frigid dock]

Thought about creating breaches in walls by cutting them that will allow you to teleport to another place of the dungeon

It can be fun to do something like portal

Where you can see the other place through the cut

[quick lake]

why not make them normal shroud color? or a more natural color? sounds a little out of place imo

[dawn crystal]

it was so you wouldnt confuse them for normal shrouds

[quick lake]

Ooo like cutting holes in reality and stuff

[primal ferry]

Doing real portals would be tough, very tough, but there's the "seamless dungeon" thread here which does the same

[quick lake]

I mean, did they generate under where you summoned it? Again I don't see why they couldn't make em slightly more orange or a more natural plant color

The reasoning does make sense though

[dawn crystal]

it just placed them as it walked overtime

[frigid dock]

There are a lot of tutorials on youtube

I'll be interesting in doing it

[quick lake]

I think it wouldve been fun to try and figure out which shrouds are your own by giving them a subtle color difference as opposed to making them just blue

[primal ferry]

Was mostly to differentiate them. It was able to place 3 of them at a time. Placed them after standing still for 3s. 4th one removes the 1st one

[quick lake]

ooh neat neat

[primal ferry]

Also changed the scan node to a green one saying "hiding shroud"

[quick lake]

Oh, then I don't see much of a point in differentiating them in that case

[bright sandal]

i like the blue scan node more tbh, green is used exclusively for scrap whilst blue is used for "tools" or "points of interest"

[quick lake]

I thought the blue would be good to indicate that the shrouds are actually good in this case, but the green scan node does that job in terms of teaching the player

[quick lake]

ah that's true

[primal ferry]

good point. will add that to my bucket list

the blue scannode

[quick lake]

Normal colored shroud (or slightly color shifted) + blue scannode would be cool, esp the blue scannode

I think blue on blue could look a bit weird, and make it harder to read what the scannode says

[primal ferry]

should be an easy thing to do.. anyone know the scanNode id out of their head? ^^

[bright sandal]

todo list:

• major thing

• 4 more monsters

• another major thing

• aa so much code

• minor pet peeve someone had

XD

[quick lake]

I know @hollow raptor does scannode stuff, maybe he knows?

[bright sandal]

literally cutting the "fabric" of space, very cool

[primal ferry]

our todo list is kinda stacked in terms of low prio tasks. it's not really like that ^^ we won't run out of work early :p

[quick lake]

Mhm, would be a cool take on its abilities

[bright sandal]

oooo thats kinda cool actually, didnt think aout cruiser traversal

what if you could just plop the barber on the front of the car and you cant see him bc he's invis but he destroys props with is scissors

[quick lake]

It's kind of a callback to "HM slaves" in pokemon games

where you have a dude that just does field abilities and nothing else cuz the field moves suck ass in combat LMAO

[bright sandal]

palworld

[hollow raptor]

I has been summoned?

[bright sandal]

oh thats pretty cool, very sad kamikaze but also neat

[quick lake]

Yeah! we were just curious if you know the scanNode id for the blue scanNode off the dome

[hollow raptor]

Blue should be 0

Right?

[bright sandal]

thats the one idea i had - and you wouldnt be totally invisible since enemies could still see you if you got too close

you'd make the barber snare drum sfx tho so you'll be VERY prone to dogs

[quick lake]

it'd be really funny if it was a small forest keeper and it grabbed onto you to tank attacks lmao

[primal ferry]

Small note for the worm, regardless of what its final behaviour will be: I prefer to not make it extremely unlikely to stay in the ball as the capture process is already so hard. But one of the remaining enemies will likely get the hardest catch rate of all soon, if plans go well

[quick lake]

yeaah that's another cool one I mentioned

[bright sandal]

"wait, I was supposed to be the meat shield?????"

thats amazing

[frigid dock]

Currently I'm working on this. I wanted to make a good showcase but something went wrong lmao

[primal ferry]

I like that too

[quick lake]

hmm fair enough!

[bright sandal]

(also dogs cant see anyways)

[bright sandal]

YOOOO THAT ANIMATION LOOKS SO COO- oh

LMAO

[primal ferry]

agree, i really love the blue effect!

[bright sandal]

ok but fr that looks awesome

[frigid dock]

I stole the one from the teleporter

[primal ferry]

and reworked it hard? or is the vanilla one looking like this already? should pay more attention^^

[bright sandal]

its crazy that the pokedex computer is technically running a better OS than the terminal XD

the terminal is just using console while the dex is full on Windows XP

[hollow raptor]

0 = Blue (Tools)
1 = Red (Enemies)
2 = Green (Scrap)

[bright sandal]

now we just need unregistered hypercam 2 and a guy showing us how to use the dex viw Notepad with low-quality trance 009 sound system playing in the background

[bright sandal]

didnt understand what you meant at first but now i see that that effect is just a lot of teleporter sparks scaled down, thats awesome

[frigid dock]

Yeah scaled down and in a cone

[bright sandal]

thats rlly cool, reusing alr existing particles

also i'm looking at the icons and i think i forgor what "duplicate" is (like, u get another one of ur pokemon or what)

dex, tutorial and scan all make sense but what's duplicate

[frigid dock]

.

[bright sandal]

oh cool, so you can just have a backlog of portable meat shields giants for example

neat, thx

maybe you could use inverse teleporter particles for duplicating

it'd make sense(-ish)

[frigid dock]

They're the same but in red iirc?

[bright sandal]

yuh uh

[bright sandal]

wait.

i have a potentially game-changing question

will pokeballs

||have the ability to be put inside v64 belt bags???||

bc if so then that would be crazy op

||imagine just having an entire arsenal in your bag||

[oak edge]

it would make sense

[dawn crystal]

theres a mod that lets you store scrap in the belt bag and also change how many slots it has

so you can make the belt bag exclusively for 6 monsters

then you can use a mod called itemweights to make it weightless

[light rampart]

I agree with this

[prime plover]

Is this related to the snare flea?

[dawn crystal]

"Centipede" is the snare fleas internal name

[prime plover]

i see

[dawn crystal]

heres every differently named monster internally actually

just cause why not

[prime plover]

this is why them coil heads are annoying, always blocking my path lol

and then there's one more, in Offense.

[dawn crystal]

coil heads have the highest spawnrate on offense

[prime plover]

and probably this might be one of their skills maybe?

Coil-heads just to block enemies? XD

idk

[thorny knot]

In lore it will be using silk to repair your helmet (it will still latch on)

Also it wont be able to be released outside

[frigid dock]

As I see internal names more than real names, I often use the wrong one 😅

[dawn crystal]

eh
just make sure people know what you mean

no need to be apologetic

[prime plover]

So currently which monster is almost to completion? 🤔

[primal ferry]

Hygrodere

[jovial ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/jello-jiggle-wiggle-gelatin-jelly-gif-16481343

[prime plover]

aka the Item Dumping Monster xD

[prime plover]

Wait guys

I just thought of an idea

Since the Jester moves very fast when its about to crank and attacks the players

I was thinking more like

The Jester can actually be able to give a temporary speed boost to the player

Or an ATK boost just suggesting

What do you think? 🤔

[dawn crystal]

i think it could carry items for you

theres a mod that does something similar but thats designed to be a way to counter it; it cant go into phase 4

[prime plover]

That is the blob

Blob does carry stuffs for you

[dawn crystal]

that was said..?

[prime plover]

Yes, by Niro himself

Blob is the one that carry the items for you, aka the item dumping monster

Because what i realized

There's no monsters that does give you a boost, although this is just my idea

Like ATK, SPD or Health boost etc

[dawn crystal]

any damage buff at all is too op

its why i hate the custom weapons in immersive scrap

they are completely game breaking

[prime plover]

Wait is there a immersive scrap mod?

🤔

[dawn crystal]

its custom scrap
its just named immersive scrap

it adds like 4 custom weapons that all deal two damage per hit

[prime plover]

Oh there have weapons to it?

Oh

[dawn crystal]

even in the context of this mod, just having one hit you do deal two damage from a buff is too op

[prime plover]

I mean this is my opinion thats all

[dawn crystal]

in fairness

i actually know how to fuckin kill things :P

[prime plover]

Yeah, and except we still cant even kill coil heads and jester

):

[primal ferry]

We don't really want the jester to be a support monster, as it's quite aggressive. Might be a support while it's not popped up, but the main goal is to make it a damage dealer

[prime plover]

Ohhhh so its like a two hit damage to the enemy while using its big skull head thingy? XD

[frigid dock]

Working on the duplication menu now

I want to know your opinion. Duplication requires an empty ball. Should it require a minimum ball level depending on the monster (ex: ghost girl in ultra ball or master ball only)? Should it cost money too (configurable)?

Or I can also make the price higher depending on the monster

[primal ferry]

I'ld say "higher catch difficulty = higher price"

[primal ferry]

Good middle ground could also be to reduce price the better the ball is, cause you already spent more money on the ball (or got luckier in dungeon)

[frigid dock]

Is there someone willing to test the PC? I have a first version so it's about finding bugs or improvements

[prime plover]

Man i would want to but im working 😭

[bright sandal]

i'll be free over the weekend but before that is completely full for me, sadly

[oak edge]

i can ive been waiting for my friend to get back to play

[frigid dock]

It's not ready for online play. It's in an early dev state so it's more about testing it solo with debugging mods and all

[oak edge]

i thought so i was just saying ive got nothing better to do right now

[frigid dock]

I need another opinion about a design. So, players will be able to unlock monsters' dex entries and duplications by scanning balls with monsters inside. These unlocked monsters will be saved.
Now I have 3 options:

• Saves are per saves. So when a game is reseted, everything is lost. I don't think that I like this option because as it requires to catch the monsters yourself (and not finding them in balls already in the dungeon), it will be hard and there will not be a lot of unlocked monsters per games
• Saves are global and everyone is using the host save. So if a player unlocks a monster, it will be unlocked for the host. It will also prevent players from bringing monsters unlocked in other saves
• Saves are global but per player, so everyone will have different unlocked monsters and everyone has it's own progression

[quick lake]

why would option 1 not work with caught mons found inside?

[quick lake]

I think a config option to erase dex and duplication progress would be interesting cuz if they remain post-wipe or transcend saves it would mean you eventually wouldn't need to catch anything and could just duplicate without the need to ever go through the catching process

no?

or am I reading this wrong

[prime plover]

technically, when i look it up for "monsters as buddies in lethal company" there's isnt a single mod except for this one and im still mindblown of how this mod is still not popular yet.

[frigid dock]

I don't want to make it work, it would be too easy

[quick lake]

well if you're gonna lose your progress upon being fired it would fix the issue of it being too hard, like you said

you could just lower the chances of finding them aswell

[frigid dock]

Yeah but I also want this sentiment of progression and accomplishment

[quick lake]

well, doing something hard brings in a sense of accomplishment

[quick lake]

anyhow I think tying those features to the save and then adding a config for whether you wanna keep the progress or not is the best approach

[prime plover]

Ngl, catching an Old Bird and wore it like an exo suit is kinda dope tho

[jovial ledge]

titanfall

https://tenor.com/view/titanfall-2-execution-monarch-checkmate-crush-gif-13742663037495618060

[prime plover]

Just imagine using that to destroy the Coilheads and the Jesters, fucking epic man

[bright sandal]

evil idea: jester can't be captured while in box form :)

what would jester do anyways actually

like theres been a few ideas of how it'd boost your speed or attack speed or smth buuuuuut

i was thinking scrap storage bc, well, it has "box" in its name, but we alr have a scrap-carrier

perhaps you could choose to wind the jester and the longer you wind it, the longer it's out of its box

[bright sandal]

now that you mention it, the lore states that old bird has a projector in order to blind coils

maybe old bird would be super-effective against coils or smth

[bright sandal]

OHHH maybe jester would have both defensive and offensive capabilites

like jester is known for block doorways and such, make jester could block you from enemies and once you wind it, attack enemies

[bright sandal]

goddamit

great minds think alike ig XD

what about coil tho

i like the idea of coil being a, well, coil

budget extension ladder of sorts

that feels a lil cheap and it feels like there should be smth else but do keep in mind that coils are extremely easy to catch

they wont even aggro if you fail to capture them since their aggro state is the state in which they cannot move

you can just find one and keep chucking pokeballs

[primal ferry]

had an idea for something which doesn't require them to move :)

won't spoil it right now as it could ruin the moment, but if someone has any ideas for this behaviour .. we haven't started with it yet ^^

[oak edge]

whenever you fail a capture they just give up on staying still and chase you down

better be lucky

[primal ferry]

Seems a bit against the way they're intended to work. They shouldn't move while being looked at when not being tamed

[prime plover]

Is this related to the Jester? 🤔

OH the Coilheads...right.

[frigid dock]

0.5.4

• Hygrodere is now catchable

LethalMon [v64 / 0.5.4]

I forgot to add the hygrodere behaviour in the thunderstore's README, so here it is:

(right is fail behaviour)

[next minnow]

does the mod have any incompatibility issues cuz I can’t catch anything, I hit them with a ball and they just got absorbed and I could never pick up the ball

[frigid dock]

Do you have errors in the console?

I didn't hear about such incompatibilities

[next minnow]

I’ll check

I don’t see any

[frigid dock]

Can you send me your modlist? With you mod manager export

[next minnow]

0191f695-cd97-7cd0-bd38-ae09dde963f1
thats the mod list

really small 17 mods most being performance

since i have async loggers couldnt really see the errors

you could try that modpack with async thingy disabled so you could see them

[frigid dock]

There is a problem with CullFactory

[next minnow]

X_X

thats like the best performance mod too 💀

[frigid dock]

Probably because of its last updates

Cause I never had any issue with it before

[next minnow]

rip

ill just downgrade it to its previous version, everyone says to rn

[frigid dock]

Yeah I just read the thread, it seems that it broke everything lol

[bright sandal]

oh yea last time i played with cullfactory i couldnt drop items 💀

[frigid dock]

A showcase of the blob

[jovial ledge]

thats just like bruce lol, except without the being massive and the biting part

now make bruce carry a blob carrying beltbags carrying equipment

and put them on a cruiser

put that cruiser on an elevator

[prime plover]

uhhhh @frigid dock @primal ferry for some reasons, when i place an item to blob, it doesnt carry along with it

[prime plover]

can help here?

[prime plover]

edit : i tried to create a new profile in thunderstore, it works

maybe there are certain mods that doesnt go along with lethalmon i guess

[primal ferry]

Noticed that with spider and bracken too. Both are able to attack you when used in certain modpacks. I will test this in more detail on Thursday if it hasn't been tested since then. Won't have much time for coding till then 🙈

As of the items.. might be cullfactory too. Have you had that in your previous modpack? If so, then try to downgrade to their previous version

[nocturne ether]

Can you add a config option to makes pokeball is one time use? Like you can only summon these "Pokemon" once

[frigid dock]

Can you send me your modpack please?

[frigid dock]

I'll add this to the tasks

[frigid dock]

You're right I forgot about this mod

[prime plover]

i actually kinda deleted it by accident so sorry 😅

[dawn crystal]

cullfactory was apparently patched

but who knows if it was truly

at this point

[wild ruin]

Does anyone here use this mod with LethalLevelLoader?

[lime fox]

i think a helluva lot of people do

[wild ruin]

Because LethalLevelLoader mess up the save of the creature inside the capture balls. If you happen to capture a monster or find one that already has one inside, bring it back to a ship, go to orbit, then save and leave the lobby or leave the game. Next time you load the save, if you are lucky, the content inside the capture balls is the same. But most of the time, the monster inside the capture balls is changing or the ball just become empty, which means whatever you captured before is lost or becomes something else. For now, this problem can only be solved by disabling LethalLevelLoader. I actually don't know if LethalLevelLoader causes the problem or if the mod that comes with it, which is LethalModDataLib, causes it. By disabling both of them, the issue I mentioned is gone. So, don't use this mod with LethalLevelLoader and LethalModDataLib for now if you don't want to lose the monster you captured.

[frigid dock]

Oh it's because of LLL? I couldn't find the issue

I heard that some players lose the balls content

[lime fox]

i make my own save file in coderebirth tbh

[frigid dock]

Because you had similar issues?

[lime fox]

oh no, because i just didnt want to have to deal with similar issues

plus lethalmoddatalib was just very unrecommended

[prime plover]

noted i will the disable the mods that what @wild ruin was mentioned, thaks for bringing this up tho

[frigid dock]

I'll investigate the issue to prevent this from happening though

[rough pewter]

Will the mons ever be killable?

[frigid dock]

No

[prime plover]

but why would you wanna kil your own mon tho? 🤔

[frigid dock]

I tried with both LethalLevelLoader and LethalModDataLib and I didn't get any problem with saved balls

Can you send me your modlist? With your mod manager export

[wild ruin]

I will, when I am free later on. Plus, I will do further testing. if LethalLevelLoader and LethalModDataLib are not problems, then custom moons or dungeons may be a problem here. When I disable both of them, all custom moon and dungeon are disabled automatically, and I will enable them back on one by one to see where the problem is coming from. Maybe a dungeon that adds custom items may mess things up. There are only 4 dungeons that I install: The ScarletDevilMansion, Xen_Interior, SCPFoundationDungeon, and Dantors_Mental_Hospital.

[dawn crystal]

i think it would be obvious LLL isnt the issue because LLL doesnt load the ship in orbit differently afaik

it only loads moons different

[lime fox]

LLL has to fuck with a LOT (rightfully so) including a lot of saving in stuff

[frigid dock]

I think that I'll make custom saves then

I need to add compatibility with EnemySkinRegistry in order to save custom models, so I'll need more than an int to save the data anyway

[frigid dock]

Do you know if there is a "standard" or template for mods save files, or do I need to implement it from scratch?

[lime fox]

you can try looking at coderebirth's impl

[frigid dock]

https://github.com/XuuXiao/CodeRebirth/blob/main/Plugin/src/Util/PersistentDataHandler.cs everything's here?

[lime fox]

nope, but ill link everythin

okay its kinda hard to screenshot or link everything but

https://github.com/XuuXiao/CodeRebirth/commit/72f726e34acd169e5ac113e057f9d5ca48635a5f#diff-4888704e84c6df9fd30fe7a4c668716eab6d07c99d97bcd2fadbbbbafbb19214

this commit should have everything you're looking for

it adds saving and whatnot

[frigid dock]

Alright, thanks!

[wild ruin]

Well, I just discovered that the LethalLevelLoader and LethalModDataLib alone don't cause any issues, but as soon as a single custom moon and custom dungeon are added, saving problems start to appear.

[rough pewter]

I mean the other monsters, not yourself

[wild ruin]

As well as just remove or disable LethalLevelLoader and LethalModDataLib all together, if custom moons or dungeon can't be used anyways.

[frigid dock]

Is there someone here having the save bug? I made a fix but I need someone to test it on their modpack

0.5.5

• Fixed incompatibility with an unknown mod that made the game not loading because of the hygrodere

[frigid dock]

LethalMon [v64 / 0.5.5]

[wild ruin]

The save works properly now, even on custom moons and dungeons.

[frigid dock]

What

I didn't change anything

[wild ruin]

i don't know. LOL, the problem fix itself, I updated the mod, and the problem is gone so I have no idea

[primal ferry]

Maybe an update of another mod that caused this 🤷🏻‍♂️

[frigid dock]

I think that the issue may happen in some specific cases only that you didn't reproduce here

Or yeah maybe an update of another mod

[wild ruin]

How about others that have had save issues before? did they get problem fixed? Well, it can be anything. It's kind of hard that this saves issue doesn't show anything in the log, so...

[frigid dock]

It's kinda hard to get an answer as it is happening sometimes only

And on my side I still didn't reproduce the issue successfully

It actually never happened to me

[wild ruin]

Well, after version 0.5.5 dropped, the issue is gone. I don't know what has been done, but it fixes the issue.

For me at least

[echo vessel]

are there any known mods that cause pokeballs to be invisible for everybody but the host? this is an issue im having

[frigid dock]

Not that I know. Can clients send me their logs?

[echo vessel]

yes

here is the "error" i would assume is causing it, this is from me

is there a way for me to just send the entire log?

this is from the client

[bright sandal]

i think you can just copy+paste it and it'll send the message as a file

not sure tho

[frigid dock]

There is .log file in the r2modman folder

C:/Users/<username>/AppData/r2modmanPlus-local

On windows

[echo vessel]

working on it

i dont see any r2modman folders in my appdata

[frigid dock]

In appdata/roaming?

[echo vessel]

this is all thats in my roaming

[frigid dock]

Do you use r2modman?

[echo vessel]

i dont think so

should i get it?

[frigid dock]

No

I assumed you did

Do you install mods manually?

[echo vessel]

i use thunderstore and i make profiles

[frigid dock]

Oh then it's probably in the thunderstore folder

[echo vessel]

i manually add them to profiles but im sure you mean something else lol

[frigid dock]

That I can see there

[echo vessel]

the only log folder in here is very short

which is why i feel like this isnt it

there is a "lethal company" folder in the thunderstore folder, but there is no .log

[frigid dock]

LethalCompany/profiles/Default/BepInEx/LogOutput.log?

I don't know how this launcher works

[echo vessel]

that worked ty sending

this it?

[frigid dock]

Yes

Do you use version 0.5.5 of the mod?

[echo vessel]

of lethalmon?

[frigid dock]

yes

[echo vessel]

yes

i can send the thunderstore code if you want to look at the mods we have

im helping my friend send his logs though since he's the one they're invisible for

[frigid dock]

Yes I don't see errors in it

I need your friends logs after the bug appears

Or you can send me the modpack but I won't be able to test this now

[frigid dock]

In this log you're using version 0.5.4

[echo vessel]

that's weird let me look again then

it says im on 0.5.5 in the profile

should i uninstall it and reinstall it

[frigid dock]

Oh you're using rah profile

Not default

So it's LethalCompany/profiles/rah/BepInEx/LogOutput.log

[echo vessel]

oh ok i thought you would want to see the log of the profile

[frigid dock]

I need the logs of the profile you have the bug with

[echo vessel]

rah is the profile with the bug

my friend that is having the issues doesnt have a log folder in his thunderstore profile like i do

[frigid dock]

Not even an sqlite file?

[echo vessel]

no

[frigid dock]

weird

[echo vessel]

he fixed it actually

wrong thing

[frigid dock]

What was the issue?

[echo vessel]

not sure, he fixed the logs not the mod sorry i should've clarified

[frigid dock]

Send the logs file directly, not a copy paste

A lot of lines are missing

[echo vessel]

this? or is it the same

[frigid dock]

The hour is 4pm

And I see nothing weird in it

[echo vessel]

that's weird

[frigid dock]

There are a lot of LethalThings errors though

[echo vessel]

i see

i appreciate your help btw

[tame cliff]

hey @frigid dock your mod causes this: #help-and-troubleshooting message

I used the process of elimination and tested every mod. As soon as LethalMon is activated/updated, this screen appears when trying to host/join a lobby

Must have been the update

[frigid dock]

Can you send me your log file after the black screen?

[tame cliff]

#help-and-troubleshooting message

[frigid dock]

I don't know what I did but I might have packed the wrong dll in version 0.5.5

[tame cliff]

yea mustve been something you did in the update

[frigid dock]

Can you send me your modpack please?

With a code or file

@tame cliff

[tame cliff]

01920455-81f6-0e1f-d0f5-205b4238b744

but lethalmon is disabled for now

the deprecated mods still work and dont cause any issues gameplay-wise as of yet

[frigid dock]

It will be fixed in the next version

Btw, I finished the PC, what do people here think of this tutorial? A better version with drawings is in process but it takes time:

[tame cliff]

sounds good. nicely explained

[frigid dock]

Changed the font because spacing was weird. Thoughts?

[tame cliff]

much better

[bright wolf]

Looks nicer

[bright sandal]

looks a bit like minecraft text now lmao

i love it

[frigid dock]

It is not a coincidence

[dawn crystal]

i know youre like
doing a buncha shit

but id like configureable capture rates per ball

you can make the string be like spawn weight
example
Hoarding Bug:48,Hygrodere:10

that way its only four config sections

unless you plan to add more balls

[frigid dock]

0.5.6

• Same as version 0.5.5, but with the correct DLL...

[prime plover]

Interesting

[weary bloom]

Been there, done that

[rough pewter]

I found a ball in the facility with a kidnapper fox but nothing came from it since the fox is disabled

I threw it and all it did was leave the fox's scan node

But no fox or anything

Even the menu in the top right didn't work

[primal ferry]

In a previous official update the EnemyType of the Fox got removed, making us unable to spawn it (without a good amount of work that's likely obsolete sooner or later anyway, when it comes back). We removed it from the list of possible monsters to spawn in balls in one of our recent updates.
Which version have you used?

[rough pewter]

Newest version

Found it today

Guess you didn't fully remove it by accident

[frigid dock]

I don't understand how it is possible

[frigid dock]

I verified and it's the correct DLL this time

So it has been removed

[frigid dock]

LethalMon [v64 / 0.5.6]

[rough pewter]

Yaaay

[sturdy tangle]

i genuinely think this is one of the best mods made for LC

can't wait to see what monsters get added next

[frigid dock]

First I will finish and release the pc

Then I want to work on the barber

[primal ferry]

I will continue working on a secret thing next week.. around halfway done with that

[lime fox]

I'm gonna work on your mother

Shes a handful

[sturdy tangle]

ayo?

[frigid dock]

What

[primal ferry]

._.

[lime fox]

Everyone was saying they were working on something

[prime plover]

Barber huh? What's the skills?

[frigid dock]

He will cut walls and make a portal to another place of the dungeon

Like the portal game

[bright sandal]

omg like the hit game mechanic portal from the hit game portal

[sturdy tangle]

okay thats actually dope

i want to seriously congratulate you on your creativity btw

im super impressed with the level of thought put into every mon

i was just discussing with my partner what the barber would do as a mon, this is way cooler than anything we thought of

you take the baseline identity behind the monster, and manage to manipulate it in a way to having it benefit the player and make it worthwhile to have while simultaneously keeping that core identity of the monster and not straying too far from the source material

its fantastic, im having so much fun with the mod already, i can't wait to see what it'll look like near the end when most monsters have been implemented

can't wait for things like the old bird, jester, and maneater

[quick thistle]

jester shall become a music box that plays freebird at all times while summoned (morale boost!!!111)

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[scenic ocean]

Can’t wait for the Fox to come back and eat all my enemies

https://tenor.com/view/angry-dog-angry-upset-gif-21225080

[bright sandal]

i remember that fox used to be rlly op

i think it should drag enemies towards you upon command and temporarily immopablize them ratehr than just straight-up damage them

plus it can spawn hiding bushes alr, could be a rlly good combo (hide in bush, command fox to reel enemy in, spring up from bush and beat the crap outta the enemy)

[gleaming wind]

that kinda reminds me of goldenlight, how you could just melee the walls and make shortcuts.

[quick lake]

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/iJdYfQdjd4lvMKooG/d133767cFaIw?invite=cr-MSw4QW4sMjYyMzg4OTQxLA

don't know if this has been happening to anyone else

[prime plover]

ikr kudos to @frigid dock and @primal ferry for making this mod possible, and especially for a solo player like me, i don't see why not of having the monsters as my buddies.

[frigid dock]

Which mod are you using that make it big like that? Because I guess that it messes up with the colliders

[frigid dock]

Thanks to both of you. It's always appreciated to have good feedbacks and it motivates me to continue modding

[frigid dock]

Is there someone here that will play this mod with at least one other player soon and willing to beta test version 0.6.0?

I fix almost all bugs I think but as it is a big feature I maybe missed something

[frigid dock]

Here is v0.6.0, not released yet

If someone wants to test it

[hidden leaf]

While trying out this update, I noticed that if anyone was on the PC while the ship went into orbit, they would die, and show up on the results screen as missing. Everyone I tested with was clipping through the ship during the leaving sequence if they were on the PC, and would then be left behind when it entered orbit.

[hidden leaf]

I don’t know if this is a bug or not, but after the host scanned a monster into the PC, none of the other players who scanned it after them would be able to access the monster’s DNA. It said that “The monster is already in the dex and its DNA has already been decrypted”, but when anyone other than the host opened the dex page or duplicate page, it wouldn’t show all of the scanned monsters for them. I think it’s only an issue if the host scans the monster first, since we tested with the host scanning the bracken first, and neither of the other clients could scan or duplicate it, whereas when we scanned the hoarding bug, the host went last, and we all were able to add it to our dexes.

[frigid dock]

It's a bug, I completely know where it comes from

[frigid dock]

Thanks for testing it tho

Do you have feedbacks on this feature?

[hidden leaf]

I think it’s an amazing update, I’ve been playing this update with a few of my friends since it first released, and we all love it! Cloning monsters is a feature we’ve been looking forward to, and this update was exactly what we were hoping it would be! The PC looks perfect, the Dex showing the catch rates and some info is very helpful, and the cost of duplication is very fair. I don’t think there’s anything more that I have to add at this point, but I would say that this is one of my favorite updates that this mod has ever had!

[quick lake]

we don't have anything to change size, we're just right next to it

this happened with baboon hawks, hoarding bugs, dogs and other enemies too

the ball just phases through the enemies

[frigid dock]

Maybe a mod conflict then

[quick lake]

we could only manage to get one entity in the balls and those were the bees

[quick lake]

I can send the dependency string/modpack if you'd like!

[frigid dock]

Sure

For the modpack

[quick lake]

AinaVT-LethalConfig-1.4.2
AllToasters-SpectateEnemies-2.6.0
AntlerShed-EnemySkinKit-1.2.5
AntlerShed-EnemySkinRegistry-1.4.5
AtomicStudio-Atomics_Cosmetics-1.2.0
AudioKnight-StarlancerAIFix-3.8.3
BananaPuncher714-LethalQuantities-1.2.9
BepInEx-BepInExPack-5.4.2100
ButteryStancakes-VentSpawnFix-1.2.1
CTNOriginals-CrossHair-1.1.2
DiFFoZ-BepInEx_Faster_Load_AssetBundles_Patcher-0.6.4
DistinctBlaze-ColorfulEnemyVariety-1.4.1
DistinctBlaze-ExtraEnemyVariety-1.6.0
EliteMasterEric-WackyCosmetics-2.0.0
Evaisa-FixPluginTypesSerialization-1.1.1
Evaisa-HookGenPatcher-0.0.5
Evaisa-LethalLib-0.16.1
Evaisa-LethalThings-0.10.6
Feiryn-LethalMon-0.5.6
FlipMods-LetMeLookDown-1.0.2
FlipMods-ReservedItemSlotCore-2.0.37
Generic_GMD-Generic_Moons-5.3.1
HGG-JigglePhysicsPlugin-1.1.21
Hardy-LCMaxSoundsFix-1.2.0
IAmBatby-LethalLevelLoader-1.3.10
IAmBatby-LethalToolbox-1.0.4
JacobG5-JLL-1.6.0
Lordfirespeed-OdinSerializer-2022.11.9
Magic_Wesley-Asteroid14-2.0.5
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[frigid dock]

Thanks, I'll look into it when I'll have time

[quick lake]

thanks a lot 🫡

[bright sandal]

i love this mod so much

played it again today

one of my friends sacrificed themselves by putting on a comedy mask so that i could catch the masked as my pet

it was amazing :)

[frigid dock]

I couldn't reproduce the bug :/

[quick lake]

yeah, I have no idea

it had been happening all session

[frigid dock]

With all monsters?

[quick lake]

yeah

[frigid dock]

Were you the host?

[quick lake]

maybe it's a multi´player issue?

[thorny knot]

I still think (if any) the first modded monsters to get compat should be biodiv

[frigid dock]

0.6.0

• Added a PC where you can see the tutorial, browse the dex, scan balls and duplicate monsters
  • Thanks to Foof for the PC model
  • Thanks to @quick lake for the monsters descriptions
  • Thanks to @light rampart for the PC icons, background, and for testing

[sturdy shard]

Newgrounds moment

[frigid dock]

LethalMon [v64 / 0.6.0]

[quick lake]

hell yeaaah

[prime plover]

@frigid dock gotta say, having one looks kinda fancy, like as if you are actually healing your Pokemons lol

[gleaming wind]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-mods-and-staff-ily-gif-25934904

[sturdy tangle]

are you going to make it so there's a tickable option to reset dex progress on a new save file? i like that it carries over across saves but i'd also like to be given the freedom of choice in that regard for some saves

[frigid dock]

Yes but later

[quick lake]

https://tenor.com/view/hiii-cat-wave-cat-wave-hi-gif-174708314057938083

[quick lake]

any new monsters that release hmu and I'll work on descriptions for y'all

or any pc text in general lol

[gleaming wind]

also random thought but having the pc's ui be themed after red/blue would be cool, little pixelart hoarding bugs & butlers n whatnot.

[quick lake]

I have pixel art made for the monsters heheh

would be cool

[frigid dock]

What are your ideas to improve the eyeless dog?

[sturdy tangle]

I would actually like the eyeless dog to be improved somewhat, currently it's very much a one trick pony and requires other eyeless dogs to be useful

[frigid dock]

Yes that's why I want to improve it

But I can't find good ideas for this one

[sturdy tangle]

First thought that comes to mind is for it to be a mount, but that's already a spore lizard thing

What if the eyeless dog was something like a "combat" mount? It's slower than the spore lizard so it doesn't invalidate the spore lizard, but when you run into monsters it damages them?

I agree that it's hard to find a good use for the dog that hasn't already been filled by something else, so there might have to be some kind of overlap with other creatures, but as long as they have subtle differences and are fairly equal it shouldn't overshadow anything else

[frigid dock]

It makes sense as the eyeless dog is blind

And there is no mount that can attack

[bright sandal]

i think ive said this before but i think spore lizard should do smth else (maybe something to do with the, yunno, spores) and dog should be a mount

i mean theres only 2 quadrupal enemies in the game iirc, those being lizard and dog, so it'd make sense if they were mounts

both could be rideable but have extra abilities:

• spore lizard could emit a cloud to shiel you from enemies' view in exchange for stamina
• dog could have a lunge attack that damages

[quick lake]

completely agree, it's a bit of a shame that spore lizards don't actually do their main thing as a captured mon

[bright sandal]

like dont get me wrong i love triumphantly riding around on spore doggy but it just feels like missed potential

[quick lake]

I do think dogs could either be rideable + have a lounge attack or just have the lounge attack

[bright sandal]

spore lizard could be the ultimate escape vehicle: smoke bomb your enemies and ride away

while dogs could be a kinda multipurpose: they'd have less stamina but have a lunge attack

[sturdy tangle]

i quite like that take on it yeah

spore lizard should stay a mount, but it should be a speed/escape tool, the dog should be a combat defined mount that actively gets you into a fight at the expense of being slower than the spore lizard

[frigid dock]

EnemySkinRegistry compatibility incoming

[quick lake]

👀

[dawn crystal]

thats nice

[thorny knot]

Make it so that model replacing ones (anything other than “___enemy variety” mods just use the skin name

[dawn crystal]

they would...?

[thorny knot]

Wait what-

[dawn crystal]

it doesnt say "(Spore Lizard - Private Indigo - Colorful Enemy Variety)"

what

[thorny knot]

As in

The salmon run skins mod would just use the skin name instead of like
“Baboon hawk - goldie”

[thorny knot]

You misunderstand

[dawn crystal]

well yeah thats how the api implementation has to be

at least im pretty sure

its like expecting thumpers to spawn on rend when you add them to the spawn weight string as "Thumper:38"
it just doesnt work that way
sometimes things have to be written out specific ways

they cant make the skin name be different from the one shown on the ESR config

[thorny knot]

Im just saying colorful ev skins (and other “____enemyvariety” skin mods) would be
“[enemy name] - (skin name)”
But model replacement mods would be
“(Skin name)”

[dawn crystal]

H i see

sorry

[quick lake]

how would they like, differentiate between what's a model change and a texture change though

[thorny knot]

Idk im sure theres a way somehow

[frigid dock]

There is no way to know that

[thorny knot]

Oh ok

[frigid dock]

0.6.1

• Added EnemySkinRegistry compatibility (requires version 1.4.6+)
• Added an option to make the PC saves per save and not global (the host decides)
• Trajectory of the balls has been slightly improved (correct calculation of the velocity at impact)
• Fixed a bug that made the bracken continue to drag enemies while the enemy was being captured
• Fixed a bug that made the HUD of the invoked monsters not disappearing when a player left and rejoined a game

LethalMon [v64 / 0.6.1]

[lavish quiver]

Hello, I'm here to say this mod kicks ass and join my buddy scarab in offering ideas if they're open

[lavish quiver]

So, I backread and saw the mount idea for the dog, which I gotta agree with because that would be sick.
However, to minimize overlap with the spore lizard, maybe a rework of its mechanics could be done? Right now it's rideable, but so could giants in theory. If the lizard were to be a proper support mon, would it be possible to make use of its spore cloud?

Sure, it would make it impossible for you to see, but the idea is that, at least for a while, other monsters can't see you either, so critters that rely on line of sight (Bracken, Coilhead, Ghost Girl) can't just hunt you down while you're standing in it.

[lavish quiver]

Basically just reiterating one of the earlier things in more detail xD

Maneater seems a bit trickier to work with, but maybe it could work as an extra set of eyes? Say you're cornered by a Coilhead. You could throw out the Maneater and it could watch your back for you so you don't get sprung.

[rough pewter]

Could you add support for https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1241004917746044988

You can catch the different sized mons without any issues but they change size everytime you send them out again

Idk how difficult it would be but
It would be nice if they kept the size they were caught as

[lime fox]

I mean....

Me when I check whether the mesh is the same as the vanilla one

[thorny knot]

cannot catch anything, not as in always fails either, it just straight up cannot be interacted with by the balls

code 01922733-5b1a-858a-1ab7-6ddad8eed941

[thorny knot]

theres a huge bug or incompat somewhere

[frigid dock]

It can use the vanilla mesh but not be just a recolor, like a totally different texture (ex: fire jester) or a mesh with additional meshes on it

[frigid dock]

Do you have errors in the console? I don't have a PC right now

[thorny knot]

would be too far back and also prob not as it straight up doesnt interact

[lime fox]

a totally different texture IS a recolor... lol

[thorny knot]

and third i alr closed the lethal bc it was so long ago (was this session tho but prob ages back)

[frigid dock]

Yes but the skin name won't be just a color

[lime fox]

true ig

[bright sandal]

ye thats kinda what i said

The reason i feel like spore doggy and normal doggy should be the only rideable enemies is because they have four legs and it just makes sense lmao, thats why i haven’t considered stuff like giants for example

[bright sandal]

Also: i kinda feel like there should be some sorta “pokeball bag” similar to the v64 belt bag for storing pokeballs

Feels a bit limiting to carry around only 4 pokeballs at a time, be significantly weighed down and have no room for scrap items if you do so

I wanna get my money while also catching friends :)

[prime plover]

Now that's kinda a good idea actually.

[rough pewter]

Why not just make the pokeballs able to go inside the belt bag at that point

[barren egret]

how did you get that i couldn't find it at the store

[prime plover]

Couldnt find what? XD

[barren egret]

pc

the storage system

[frigid dock]

It should be available when you load a game in version 0.6.0+

If it doesn't then there is probably a mod conflict

[barren egret]

what's the name of the item?

[barren egret]

is it also normal to not able to drop the pokeballs? the mods im currently runnin just lethalmon

[frigid dock]

No, send me your logs

[barren egret]

nvm found it

[frigid dock]

Oh it should be optional

I need to fix that

[barren egret]

it's probally my end

I'm reinstalling the whole game

[frigid dock]

No it's my bad

[lime fox]

It's definitely a soft dependency not done right

This is gonna be fun

[frigid dock]

I spent like 3 hours testing all possible cases and fixing bugs with 2 PCs and I forgot to test obvious cases like that

[lime fox]

I dont have you

I did the same thing before

Soft dependencies are hell

I wanted to soft depend on WR and I just gave up because it screwed up my registry process doing that

[frigid dock]

You can easily check if the mod is loaded in bepinex before loading any soft dependency specific code but ig I missed a call somewhere

[lime fox]

There's a lot more you need to do with soft dependencies

You need to keep any use of that code in one specific file

Then you need to put all methods that use it with no inline and no another thing

Then there's one more thing I forgor about

But I'll check rq

[sturdy tangle]

hopefully the mod works fine with the skins mod downloaded because i just upgraded to the newest one X)

i have decided that i am going to become ash ketchum and catch every single skin for every single catchable monster eventually

also i have a question nysvaa, how does the skin mod function with the monster duplication feature? will it pop out a random skin on each attempt to clone a monster? or will it always be the default skin?

[frigid dock]

It's a random one

[sturdy tangle]

oh thats actually kinda awesome, now i can do skin gambling with monster clones

[frigid dock]

Probabilities are the same as when they naturally spawn

[sturdy tangle]

awesome, good to know

you go above and beyond my man 👍

[dawn crystal]

i wonder if you could some how make skins only obtainable from that

like without nysvaa making that a thing i mean

maybe via default settings and using it on gordion

[frigid dock]

It seems totally possible

The skin is chosen by EnemySkinRegistry itself when the monster spawns for the first time, so with a ball not opened (found in dungeon or duplicated) thrown on gordion, one of the skins of this moon will be applied

[dawn crystal]

gordion cant be a moon with skins since monsters dont spawn on it

[frigid dock]

You can throw monsters out of the ball tho

[dawn crystal]

well what im getting at is the default settings in the config apply to all moons without configured settings

so maybe gordion is the same way

you can purposefully have a skin not spawn anywhere and have it be on the default

[barren egret]

oh what theres monster skins now, Could I have a copy of ur modpack in dms if u don't mnd

[cedar sphinx]

i just bought a pokeball from the terminal and when my friend picked it up he couldnt interact with anything at all

does anyone know why?

[dawn crystal]

theres been mods that add skins for monsters for months

but my favorite ones are the ones by distinctblaze

[barren egret]

thanks!

[barren egret]

wait for latest patch, theres been a problem in soft dependency

[dawn crystal]

actually not descriptive enough

ColorfulEnemyVariety
ExtraEnemyVariety
and one i forgot the name of thats meant for use alongside his moons

[barren egret]

thanks! I found the skin im going to use

extraenemyvariety had mroe design than the other packs

[naive crane]

I dunno if this was shown yet but if you find a poke ball in a facility

You can spawn it forever

Infinite army

[dawn crystal]

nutcerakcer

[naive crane]

Facts o life

[dawn crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/nutcracker-lethal-company-gif-13253354295063852429

[naive crane]

Literally testing this mod for my pack

I just couldn't hit the enemies

And the balls duplicate

[barren egret]

are u using the latest version of the mod?

[naive crane]

Yes

[barren egret]

how do i get the pc I couldn't find it at the store

[naive crane]

You... Spawn with it?

It's located by the lockers

[barren egret]

didn't show up mine

I'm not using other mods

[naive crane]

That's something you'll have to ask Dev

Because it's spawning fine

[dawn crystal]

same report came earlier today

i didnt read over it

[naive crane]

When the mod is buggy

All mods are buggy

[frigid dock]

I'll fix that asap

[frigid dock]

Same, I need to fix this

[dawn crystal]

idk about that one
couldve just been the inventory softlock bug

[naive crane]

Rest in peace

🫡

[fallen bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/marines-marine-corps-let-me-hear-that-thunder-usa-us-marines-gif-20106479

[frigid dock]

0.6.2

• Fixed compatibility with EnemySkinRegistry that made the mod not working for players that didn't have the mod

It will be available in ~ 30 min

[naive crane]

So true

[naive crane]

What about the infinite spawning?

[frigid dock]

Fixed too

[naive crane]

ooh

[bright sandal]

the what now

is THAT why i’ve had so many entities spawn for no reason??????

i have biodiversity installed and there were like 20 prototax at the ship

and like 30 wax soldiers somehow spawned

Is THAT WHY????? XD

[quick lake]

probably unrelated lol

the bug they mean is one related to the balls you find in the facility having an infinite amount of mons inside

[bright sandal]

ah ah ok

so the mystery still goes unsolved…

[frigid dock]

LethalMon [v64 / 0.6.2]

[naive crane]

Sadly no

[rough pewter]

Could you add support for https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1241004917746044988
You can catch the different sized mons without any issues but they change size every time you send them out again. Idk how difficult it would be but
It would be nice if they kept the size they were caught as

[frigid dock]

It will create weird behaviour if some mons are too big or too small. For example, a puffer too big or too small will look weird while riding. A forest giant will be stuck in the dungeon etc

[rough pewter]

Ah, I see

Unfortunate. It's okie though

What monster is next btw?

I really want the Giant or Coil

[frigid dock]

I'd like to work on the barber

But I also need to work on the new balls models

So much things to do

[rough pewter]

Awww, I'll miss the old balls

But I'm sure the new ones will be cool too

[lime fox]

im missin a lawsuit

[quick lake]

they're looking very cool hehe

[rough pewter]

Exciting!

[prime plover]

Lol

[frigid dock]

The only copyright thing are the balls and their names.
Except if they win the lawsuit and that they own the capture mechanics too

Or if they own the patent of owning a creature and mounting on them or shit like that but then f them

They can't own everything

They shouldn't*

[sturdy tangle]

yeah i really don't think we have to worry about that lawsuit, even considering the absurdity of trying to copyright game mechanics, they are arguing under patents that they filed after palworlds release

they'd literally have to be paying off the court at that case to win this, they're just doing it because it costs them nothing if they lose but on the off chance they win they get more money and nintendo loves money

but yeah changing the balls themselves are a good call, i look forward to their implementation

[lime fox]

Imma be honest, the only person ever who'd ever reasonably probably get copyrighted is s1ckboy

Dumbass just puts pikachu into his moon and scrap 😭

[frigid dock]

He got a takedown notice or smth?

[weary bloom]

Meanwhile there are a bunch of model replacements, cosmetics etc

[weary bloom]

Nope

[lime fox]

Oh god, you're one of those

"If everyone is doing something bad, so can i"

[weary bloom]

Thats not what I meant

I was answering to your “only person who’d ever get copyrighted”

[lime fox]

I mean, you're probably the most popular one

And infringing against the literal mascot

If there was a ranking, you'd be number 1

There would be others but that's what I mean

[weary bloom]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Luigi/Nintendo_Hats/

[lime fox]

That ones more popular than u?

[weary bloom]

Yeah

[lime fox]

Damn, seichi fell off frfr

[weary bloom]

Lmao

[weary bloom]

isa pikaSleep (internal name sickboy) isa one scrap

[dawn crystal]

thanks for mentioning its internal name is your username

clearly a heavily self centered person smh

[cedar sphinx]

what does the thumper do?

[frigid dock]

Smash doors, secured doors and turrets

[cedar sphinx]

ohh thats cool

[cedar sphinx]

the PC didnt spawn for me either

[naive crane]

I physically cannot hit the enemies with the pokeball

[frigid dock]

Did you update the mod to version 0.6.2? If yes, can you send me your logs?

@cedar sphinx @naive crane

[naive crane]

Yeah

[cedar sphinx]

huh

i tried rejoining the lobby again and the pc appeared now

[frigid dock]

Hmm

[cedar sphinx]

could be an issue with a different mod i have

i tried going into another save and the pc is not there

[naive crane]

I think my issue is diversity???

Ive just removed Lethalmon

[cedar sphinx]

whenever i try to buy a great ball it thinks im trying to buy a green suit for some reason

[frigid dock]

Maybe it's an old save

Or did you get fired? Maybe it didn't respawn after that

[frigid dock]

Without the logs I can't do anything

[frigid dock]

Known issue

[cedar sphinx]

ill try to test it in a second

[cedar sphinx]

i removed gamba mod and lethalmon is working just fine now

pokeballs dont bug me and the pc is here

[rough pewter]

I'm getting an error in the console that says "Unable to get blob prefab"

[frigid dock]

You can ignore it

[rough pewter]

Alrighty

[naive crane]

Also how???

[frigid dock]

Which mod manager are you using?

[naive crane]

Thunderstore

Rn I have 5 ultra balls

Ill throw them and if they all miss

Then I send logs?

[frigid dock]

C:\Users\<Your user>\AppData\Roaming\Thunderstore\<i forgot but you should find your profile>\BepInEx\Output.log

[frigid dock]

Yes reproduce the bug before sending the logs

Which monster are you trying to capture?

[naive crane]

Well shoot.

[frigid dock]

It is not catchable yet

[naive crane]

Yeah But Now I need to take care of it

[lime fox]

Make big man eater catchable

What it would do?

Take care of the small man eater

Just hiring a nanny