Central Config

[hot slate]

It recognizes Thumper though

CC does at least

[willow goblet]

wait

its prob different in cc

LLL uses code name

you can try with Spore Lizard

[hot slate]

Ic

Thx

[lilac sorrel]

Damn I thought I fixed that, client or host?

I haven’t heard of it freezing when this mod nulls yeah, it’s a postfix so it doesn’t freeze leaving the lobby

This mod recognizes both the enemy name and the top text of the scan node

[orchid beacon]

Host

It’s when on the main menu and clicking the quit button

[lilac sorrel]

Ok yeah, that issue is just harmless, it’s to reset or null values between save files so if it’s null already it’s fine

It’s the other mod that makes it take long to freeze

[orchid beacon]

@lilac sorrel If a monster is set to 0 in its own config, but in central config its not listed, will it still be disabled?

[lilac sorrel]

If it has a weight of 0 it’s omitted from the default values

So that mod is adding it but its at 0 rarity so it won’t be selected to spawn

[orchid beacon]

So if it’s not in the config list in central config then it will not spawn?

[lilac sorrel]

Yeah if it’s not in the list or it has 0 rarity it won’t spawn

[lilac sorrel]

How is the mod working on v70? I saw someone got an error when landing but it could be from the moon itself

[frozen crystal]

ive noticed no issues

[lilac sorrel]

ok good

[orchid beacon]

@lilac sorrel If a enemy in the enemy list is disabled will it break the rest of the list since it cannot find the enemy.

[lilac sorrel]

you are talking about the kidnapper fox?

[frozen crystal]

it doesnt full on break it, but if theres an entry in the string that cant be found, the string does glitch a tiny bit and doesnt always properly read other entries

this is more noticable for scrap items

[lilac sorrel]

if an entry isn't found it should exit that search loop and go to the next entry

[orchid beacon]

No I have a mod that is broken and was wondering if I had to redo the whole list

ok

[lilac sorrel]

I haven't seen an entry break it besides the kidnapper fox since it is found but inaccessible

[lilac sorrel]

oh ok good i misread that, yeah its coded to just go to the next entry if there is no enemyname or enemytype.scannode.headertext matching the string in the big enemy list I compile on startup

[fathom matrix]

even with a space in it's name, it won't spawn

why?

like it isn't added to the enemy pools

[fathom matrix]

could someone help? 😭

[frozen crystal]

i dont touch injection stuff

sorry

[fathom matrix]

anyone else? 😭

[mystic warren]

Could be jank with the Dust Clouds weather itself, since it is not a vanilla weather if we are being honest. It needs mods to work

Could be an incompatibility with Dusted

[frozen crystal]

it is though???

[mystic warren]

Until it appears in vanilla I consider it modded

Same as Kidnapper Fox and Mapper

Lasso Man has been more relevant to vanilla than Dust Clouds despite being less popular

[fathom matrix]

I'll try a vanilla weather and see if it works

[fathom matrix]

Anyone else know what could the problem in this?

[swift tangle]

check a moon when the creature spawns naturally

copy the name of the creature on that moon, past it on your moon

[fathom matrix]

I did

It says Earth Leviathan

On all other moons that is how it's spelled. But it still won't spawn

when trying to get it to spawn inside on dust cloud weather

[fathom matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/bernie-sanders-i-am-once-again-asking-for-your-financial-support-gif-16208683

Relating to my leviathan issue lol

[swift tangle]

Sorry, I don't have the current time to help atm, I'll try finishing something on my side, after that I'll try helping you out :,]

[exotic saddle]

You could try using the internal id, 'SandWorm', instead

It's like using 'Flowerman' instead of 'Brackens', though both should work

Also, isn't Dust Cloud weather unused?

[fathom matrix]

It is but through Central Config, ScienceBirdTweaks, Dusted, and the main weatherregistry, I can give it a unique use

[fathom matrix]

Thank you! I'll try the SandWorm and see if that works (and sorry for the reply, idk if that pings people if I do or not)

[swift tangle]

it pings lol

but dw

[fathom matrix]

mbbb ;-;

Yeah SandWorm doesn't work either

Tried adding Earth Leviathan normally through Central Config and it worked but when tryign to add it through that weather it won't

[swift tangle]

maybe it's a Central Config issue

[fathom matrix]

Who would I contact to mention this issue?

Tried ForestGiant alongside Earth Leviathan and still no dice.

[swift tangle]

wait for impulsive to talk and then ping them about the issue.
Don't bother modders too much with that, ping them once and at some point they will see the message and try to fix it

[fathom matrix]

Understood. I'll wait

[exotic saddle]

How are you testing it?

How do you know it doesn't work?

[fathom matrix]

I make sure that dust cloud weather is the only weather generated. Put add Earth Leviathan:333 in the add to enemy list for this weather. I go on a moon with that weather and the pool of enemies that is listed never shows Earth Leviathan nor ever spawns it inside like I want it to

[swift tangle]

Try using a weather that is not mildly modded (I guess you are using Dusted mod for this) and check if it works

Cuz it "could" be that then

[lilac sorrel]

Are you sure? You can check the enemy pool logging which is under enemies. I’m not sure if they work indoors, probably need starlancers at least

[fathom matrix]

I have starlancers ai, it's just neither forest giants or earth leviathans appeared in the enemy pool on a moon in that weather.

I haven't gotten to trying a vanilla weather though

[lilac sorrel]

Probably try a different weather first yeah, dust clouds may be a little weirder

[orchid beacon]

@lilac sorrel Wouldn't this break interiors and cause desyncs?

[lilac sorrel]

Don’t think it desynced me before but of course the dungeon size and seed needs to be synced too

I don’t use it since it’s only really if you want comically large dungeons, if you use reasonable sizes it will generate easily

[willow goblet]

this did break the generation of Black Mesa before

so i'd keep it off

[lilac sorrel]

yeah it always takes a lot of attempts to generate that interior

[small mortar]

@lilac sorrel Any chance you might fix the error that throws on game exit at some point?

[lilac sorrel]

yeah thats easy, its just a case of removing whatever line causes it

the goal is to make it unset so if it isn't set already then good

[small mortar]

Yeah I just figured it would be worth fixing cus it gets pointed out a lot as an issue and I have to always tell people it's a harmless error

[uncut palm]

I was trying to figure out some issues with level generation consistency on Loadstone and noticed that Central Config seems to be causing some run-to-run variance, which I think is related to the level scaling feature of CC. The same moon on the same interior seed is having different layouts with CC, but not without it. I noticed in the logs that on the first landing, CC lets the level retry a few times, then starts scaling, but on the second time, it already starts scaled and just keeps going down until it works. I'm not sure if this is intentional, but I could see it being a potential cause of desync if two clients aren't starting at the exact same starting dungeon size. If it is intentional, is there any logic to prevent such a desync from happening?

[quick mango]

I have had such Desync issues with Atlantean Citadel and SCP Foundation flows, in some instances it will straight up go to 0.00 dungeon size and soft lock until reloading the save. I haven't figued out why this happens or if there is a good solution. I've noticed its more common with smaller size factors but increasing dungeon size doesn't fix this 100%. I'm aware both these interiors have not been updated in a few months (4 and 10 respectively) but I'm running some interiors just as old if not older. I don't know if this problem is directly linked to CC or not but its something I have noticed too.

[small mortar]

Likely due to this setting, it should always be off tbh

It's problematic

[small mortar]

Try disabling Safeguards like I said, they've always caused nothing but issues

[quick mango]

okay, thanks. I'll give it a go

[lilac sorrel]

if the size is different then the interior will be different

you may be changing things that effect size between runs, you would need to make it constant to test that

[uncut palm]

Central Config is the only thing changing the size. All I did was land, take off, and land again, on the same seed, and it created two different dungeons
without CC, the dungeon is identical

[summer moon]

Hey while you two are here i am relatively soonish interested in making LLL abit better about syncing this stuff

Would it be a problem to slightly change code for that?

[small mortar]

You no longer have an issue with CC Batby? ;o

[uncut palm]

not at all :3
syncing built into LLL would be fantastic to see

[split barn]

I have a suggestion if that's welcome? I would love to be able to set traps by interiors. I mentioned my use-case here: #modding-general message

[lilac sorrel]

that would be awesome, I've never figured out rpcs so I'm still using manual data packets to sync clients to have the hosts values, iirc all the dungeon stuff that can happen only the host happens only on the host then it passes to the client but the other modifers then have to run on everyone individually

[swift tangle]

hey, uhm...
One small question

Why am I no longer able to modify the size of each moon?

It was perfectly possible before

[swift tangle]

somwhow fixed it pasting an old config

[lilac sorrel]

Odd, did lll update recently? I haven’t changed this mod

[small mortar]

It hasn't he probably just had a config option off

Since he said restoring an old config fixed it

[swift tangle]

I tried to do the config manually copying all the values, and it didn't work.

[lilac sorrel]

and the setting is on for interior size changes?

i think its under dungeons

[swift tangle]

hmm...
Maybe that was the issue

[small mortar]

Btw @lilac sorrel Can you fix it so CC doesn't always force the Apparatus value to be visible?

[lilac sorrel]

i could, its been a long time since i touched lc

[dense cipher]

How do I do the multiplier for a specific enemy on a specific interior

[swift tangle]

Enable this, and you can set an extra weight of enemies per dungeon

[dense cipher]

I found that tweak

And I plan on testing it when I get home as I legit had to leave when I legit enabled it lol

[dense cipher]

OH also
I use buttery rebalance and I don't want this mod to ruin the edits it makes -

[swift tangle]

not sure about that tho

[dense cipher]

fixed it-

just enabled the multiplier per interior-

not sure if it affects the butler multiplier on mansions from Butterybalance but whatever that's an easy fix

[small mortar]

@uncut palm Regarding the seed issue with CC, CC has a config value to override the seed does it work if you put the seed into that section of the config?

I've not tested if that works or not

But the bug where it always overrides the forced seed from other mods is quite annoying lol

[lilac sorrel]

yes and you can also set a multiplier for it so its has 1.5x weight 2x weight 0.5x weight etc

[frozen crystal]

@lilac sorrel CentralConfig has a conflict with StarlancerAIFix, because of its patch for monster power levels, any monster thats killed additionally opens one power when dead, for example, thumpers will open 4 when killed instead of 3 if you have both mods active at the same time

[lilac sorrel]

Oh?

Starlancer changes individual monster power levels?

[frozen crystal]

no it has a patch for monsters to properly contribute their power to the places they normally wouldnt be at

i assume centralconfig does something similar

and thus causes this conflict

[small mortar]

Central Config also overrides seeds for no real reason and you can't do testing by inputting a forced seed when testing

Unless you disable CC

I think @prime garden has some words about the Seed stuff

[prime garden]

Too lazy, CC just changes how interiors generate so the same seed on a moon no longer spawns same interior

Which sucks but whatever I just turn it off when testing stuff

[lilac sorrel]

No? You can put creatures outside with cc only because starlancer lets them be there without breaking their nav and ai

[small mortar]

That wasn't what @frozen crystal was reporting, he was reporting an issue with CC causing issues with power levels

[lilac sorrel]

thats not an issue

he thinks cc adds its own code for having indoor enemies spawn outside

[frozen crystal]

ok heres a rundown of how i discovered this, if you really need more definitive proof, fine

in one of my mod packs, the puppeteer from coderebirth is a monster in it
i made it take 10 power to spawn in
my espira edit in that same mod pack has a max indoor power of 10, with a gimmick of another modded monster, the harbinger, constantly bringing masked and thumpers over to you, forcing you to fight them
the spawn weight string is set up as Harbinger:9000,Crawler:3000,Masked:300,Cabinet:300,Lord Of The Manor:1
the idea is the puppeteer should never spawn unless you kill all other monsters, including the harbinger, whom of which takes one power to exist on the map
for months now, ive had something causing it to exist when there shouldnt be enough power, and the whole time it was this bug
every masked being killed was increasing the available power by one, because their death was freeing up +1 power, as well as every thumper, and the cabinet also, which equates to 15 more extra power total

[lilac sorrel]

starlancer handles that

[small mortar]

What he is reporting is that CC opens up an extra power slot compared to vanilla/base game

[willow goblet]

how are you getting this when the original prompt is talking about power levels

[frozen crystal]

only if starlanceraifix is on also

i tried with it off after buttery suggested it was conflicting

and she was correct

[lilac sorrel]

I don't really think I'm going to change any of the code, I'm very busy and haven't touched this game in almost a year

going into my third year at uni next week

[frozen crystal]

alright

[small mortar]

imo you should add a maintainer for the mod then

[lilac sorrel]

I would but I don't know anyone who wants to

[exotic saddle]

Does anyone know where in the code it actually does this?

Or messes with it

[frozen crystal]

@exotic saddle

its not code of CC itself per se

its an incompatibility

[exotic saddle]

But I just don't understand why

[frozen crystal]

i can record proof real quick

probably shouldve from the start

but whatever

[exotic saddle]

I know it's an issue but I just want to understand how it's physically possible

[frozen crystal]

well ill still give the proof anyways

[exotic saddle]

Good idea

[frozen crystal]

ok
so
after trying to do this again, multiple times, triple checking if i fucked up the set up for doing this some how
this is all of a sudden just not happening anymore
@exotic saddle @prime garden both of these people can absolutely vouch this was a thing that existed, and i wish i actually did record proof now
starlanceraifix has not been updated, and i 100% assure that i disabled it, and it made this issue stop happening
so this was actually a triple mod incompatibility causing this issue to happen, but an update to whatever that third mod was (which i dont know at all which it couldve been) fixed it

[prime garden]

I mean all I knew was that the problem existed, and it should still exist in the old code you sent, I just assumed the issue was a masked fixes issue but iirc you said it happens with all enemies not just masked

When I looked at CC's code I didn't see anything that would cause this though

[frozen crystal]

i turned off CC, it stopped

i turned off starlanceraifix, it also stopped

there was a third mod causing it in tandem with those two

but i dont know which one

i did check maskfixes' old version

wasnt that

[prime garden]

have u tried it in that same moon?

i know moon makers can do some potentially screw-y things like that with JLL

[frozen crystal]

it was happening on experimentation lol

[lilac sorrel]

It vexes me too h

Also not to vent but my Spanish prof deadass dumped 109 hw assignments all due the 23rd

[dusk shore]

are you for fucking real 😭

what kind of language teacher does that shit

evil mf

[lilac sorrel]

I think it may be their first time teaching, its supposed to be very easy spanish since I have no reason to take anything harder

[dense cipher]

Hey is there a way to use this mod to disable or let only certain vanilla enemies spawn??

[frozen crystal]

i mean just dont add their spawn weight entry

you could just do this with LLL

[dense cipher]

Ah k-

I figured there was a way to do this on my own but I wanna use dice mods and not want to spawn vanilla enemies I removed-

[frozen crystal]

oh

well

uh

https://tenor.com/view/fredbear-golden-freddy-fnaf-tweaking-out-shaking-gif-14437000194618924540

[lilac sorrel]

the die most likely use their own list no?

[cinder rampart]

@lilac sorrel its messing up with bozoros

someone from lethalmatt's thread figured out its from centralconfig so i moved it here

[tribal plaza]

Is there plans for lethalconfig support?

[desert hamlet]

yall should prob just move onto lunar config

@cinder rampart

[frozen crystal]

the bozoros thing is not centralconfigs fault

bozoros still works fine

id know because i loaded it a week ago

and its been in my mod pack for months

[desert hamlet]

im aware, still best to swap over

imo

or they fucked up their CC config ive done that myself before when I used it lol

not CC's fault

but just as issue if they fucked with it too much

really depended on what you edited with it

[frozen crystal]

you dont need to swap over because the mod isnt fully broken yet
it is extremely daunting and time consuming, especially if youre someone deeply involved in mod pack creation

doesnt help that lunar currently is more complicated to use in a few fronts

[desert hamlet]

it being partially broken is already a reason to start

not fully purge it

[frozen crystal]

there is nothing broken

it works fine

[desert hamlet]

I beg to differ

[frozen crystal]

the only thing thats an "issue" is it crashes the game when you click the quit button

which i dont get why thats a problem anyways

because youre already wanting to close the game

[desert hamlet]

yeah thats just kinda annoying

[frozen crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/mercury-meltdown-dance-gif-26318181

[desert hamlet]

anyways I cant see how LuC is any harder

ive used both and they are simple

[frozen crystal]

main reason is hazard curves

and just
curves for anything

[desert hamlet]

curves are a bitch in anything

for me itll be perfect once it updates to dawn

[frozen crystal]

when i swap to lunar i am just going to set everything as 0.0 ; 0.1 - 0.0 ; 1.1

or however the fuck you type it

[swift tangle]

agreed.
I just hope there's something to make it easier to handle curves

[desert hamlet]

fr lowkey

LQ is better than both its just broken

I loved how easily I can set it up before a game

in like 10 mins

[frozen crystal]

LQ is more annoying because
i dont want to use an entire separate website program

the problem with that is if youre trying to fine tune

[desert hamlet]

that is the main reason I think its the best

[swift tangle]

I do :]

[frozen crystal]

you have to constantly go back to the website

after closing the game

make new files to transfer into the mod profile after

and if its still not right
again

[desert hamlet]

yeah? same as going back to the config menu with like an extra step

[frozen crystal]

it is way more annoying to go to a website though

[desert hamlet]

or fuck just dont close it

until you feel you have it done correct

[frozen crystal]

like yeah but CC and LC also dont need you to transfer files

theyre just instantly ready to go

[desert hamlet]

yeah, id have loved to see a way for LQ to write it directly to file

prob would have been possible

if it didnt stop development

[frozen crystal]

ok anyways

@cinder rampart what interiors did you try to put on bozoros and what was altered about them

since its high up now
this is not centralconfigs fault, you messed up configuring something

[desert hamlet]

ngl thats what I more meant initially

[frozen crystal]

honestly i didnt know if you read the error lol

[desert hamlet]

nah I just heard the issue and wanted to bump a mod I think was good lol

since CC had given me that kinda shit in the past XD

like for some reason shotgun shells spawning as scrap when I didnt modify scrap

[frozen crystal]

have not once had this happen

[cinder rampart]

i didnt

the only thing i modified on bozoros is the enemy spawns

i added tourists to the night spawn

[desert hamlet]

it seemed to hate my pack bc it kept doing weird stuff XP

[frozen crystal]

ok i have no idea what the fuck that is

[cinder rampart]

its from lethalanomalies

[desert hamlet]

from lethal anomolies

I dont think they would be the issue

these dudes

[frozen crystal]

upturned looking mf

[cinder rampart]

it also did this to trite when i modified the enemy spawns
somehow just entirely switching the moon to empra fixed it though, despite using the same exact spawn settings

even the same interior

[desert hamlet]

"The tourists are mildly dangerous entities that move when you do not look at them, and are attracted to both players and shiny scrap items (scrap mods compatibility will be added over time). As they make their way to their target, they can be distracted if you drop a shiny item on the ground. However, once they start stalking their target, which is indicated by a red light on their chests, they can no longer be distracted and will keep on following their target for ~30 seconds before getting bored and looking for a new target. Getting too close, shooting it, or making an enemy walk into a tourist will trigger it to explode, also triggering nearby tourists to create a chain reaction."

fun enemy

[frozen crystal]

i think this is an issue with another mod then because i have never seen anything like this happen to my mod packs

hold on

[desert hamlet]

side note def try anomolies :3

very fun enemy mod that are balanced and immersive

tho technically based on Pacific Drive

[frozen crystal]

i already have harbinger and cabinet

i dont need more monsters

[desert hamlet]

boooo

[frozen crystal]

yeah ok buddy

[desert hamlet]

im really just memeing XP

whatever you enjoy

[frozen crystal]

@cinder rampart proof it works for me

[cinder rampart]

should i maybe send the modpack code

like i told xu its like

one of my friends pack and they wanted me to put them on what the greater modded stuff is

019a6ef2-9685-e682-c760-d3167104872e

[frozen crystal]

personally i dont know what to really look for or do in this instance for you

im just making it clear its something else

can you turn this shit off

[cinder rampart]

guess ill just have to mess with it when I get home :v

maybe ill try lunar like turtle said

[desert hamlet]

ill say if you HEAVILY used CC, best to swap over over time

since its not a direct translation

[cinder rampart]

unrelated but @desert hamlet you should do interior showcases along with your moon ones
i wasn't interested in dam originally until I saw it ingame and holy shit it changed my mind
i like how it looks, especially with the alcatras foliage

[cinder rampart]

im really only using it to adjust enemy placements and also the scrap lists

that should translate to lunar right?

[desert hamlet]

problem is those are way harder

[desert hamlet]

not copy and paste but those are easy

[rotund thorn]

whats lunar? should i be using that instead of centralconfig lmfao

[desert hamlet]

yeah its activly supported, has more options and soon to support dawnlib stuff(code rebirth, shockwavedrone,etc)

[rotund thorn]

is it easy enugh to use?

is it config files or like actual code

i wanted to use centralconfig for basically all of the rebalancing in my solo modpack but if theres a better alternative id rather use that

[desert hamlet]

its easier than CC

[rotund thorn]

centralconfig does just about everything i need it to but at the same time it has some missing things that would be nice and it also uh

[desert hamlet]

tho still requies effort

[rotund thorn]

seems to prevent weather from defaulting at the start of a run

[desert hamlet]

yeah its weather settings are broken with weather registry

[rotund thorn]

usually there isnt any weather at the start of a run

but it randomizes it

which is annoying

[rotund thorn]

oh dear

[desert hamlet]

yeah better to use an actually actively supported mod

[rotund thorn]

im guessing lunar is just about the best option then

[desert hamlet]

well lunar just doesnt touch weather, it has registry as a dependancy bc thats what you use to config weather

[rotund thorn]

safe to say i should use something that maximizes what i can do with just rebalancing moons. spreadsheet jumpscare!!!

[desert hamlet]

if you set up a lil code to auto output that into the right format than you can just copy and paste that

into lunar

[rotund thorn]

true.. i know some stuff about google sheets code

[rotund thorn]

if i can just whip up a string then yeah i definitely could

[desert hamlet]

since even I set it up for interiors atm

[rotund thorn]

funky

i mean i also want this pretty to look at too

so any string outputs will probably be at the bottom

i dont mind a ltitle hard labor because i mean its not like im updating every string every single update

some areas are honestly fine without any changes at all

but i plan on taking it one step at a time and seeing what i and other players think need tweaking

the selection of mods so far if you're interested @desert hamlet. trying to keep it simpler than most modpacks

the biggest focus is again just making the game feel more enjoyable to me while still retaining the same solo vibe

rather than overloading it with content to distract from the fact nothing about the gameplay actually improved

[desert hamlet]

tbh ive been averse to coroner since it causes big lag back in the day

[rotund thorn]

it does? oof lmfao

[desert hamlet]

idk if it still does

[rotund thorn]

wait why the fuck did i put coroner in here its a solo modpack

[desert hamlet]

since its been updated a bit

[rotund thorn]

its ltierally pointless

[desert hamlet]

but I have a similer mod anyways

[rotund thorn]

ok i removed it lmfao

i kinda just took some mods i usually use without thinking

localflashlighti s also super cool to me

i feel like it perfectly fixes the problem ive always had with flashlights

taking up a whole ass slot just so i dont have to spam the scan key

[desert hamlet]

yeah no my pack is a mega group pack

[rotund thorn]

hell nah 😭

[desert hamlet]

runs well lol

[rotund thorn]

no offence but howww do people bear this

same energy as people who play those 1,000 minecraft modpacks

[desert hamlet]

wdym lol, we just have a lot of variaty 😛

[rotund thorn]

juuuust insane

[rotund thorn]

bit too much

[desert hamlet]

tho I plan to restricts it more

[rotund thorn]

lmfao

[desert hamlet]

with constellations

[rotund thorn]

im just joking but i dont think id ever play a modpack that chaotic

[desert hamlet]

oh thats the funny thing

its pretty chill

I dont have a fuck ton of deadly shit

[rotund thorn]

i mean if its more like a "dont care about which moon you go to" situation its more intriguing

but yeah no i prefer to keep things simpler

so i guess we're polar opposites in that regard

i also wanna use lunar to polish up the vanilal mons and give them a little more personality

[desert hamlet]

yeah dont worry haha itll be more linear when the pack is done lol

[rotund thorn]

dine having the comically large amount of gore is kind of funny but i might have to revert that because of solo

maybe ill give the gore gimmick to a custom moon thats earlier game

ill have to actually play dine more to get a better understanding but i seriously doubt tons of cheap items is going to be very optimal in solo

thats the big thing i wanna fix with this solo modpack. makign the moons actually feel justifiable and that you can go to anyone you like without losing out on much

[desert hamlet]

rn everything is open so we can get a feel for everthing

[rotund thorn]

besides like, yknow. obviously if you go to experiemntation you're going to not get as much loot as titan

[desert hamlet]

so I can categorize them better

[rotund thorn]

brother got the lethal company CTGP

ok well thanks for letting me know about lunar ill try that

could you link the forum post for it if it exists

[desert hamlet]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1390479837025538048

[rotund thorn]

thankies!!!!

[desert hamlet]

I think this name fits my modpack lol

[rotund thorn]

i wanna name my modpack some shit like Solo+ or something

[desert hamlet]

"Employed and Alone"

[rotund thorn]

i'll name my modpack Dude This Modpack Kicks Ass! And I Can Play Offense While I'm Driving!

[desert hamlet]

but yeah I dont like have any joke mods or meme cosmetics, try to be semi immersive

[rotund thorn]

Dude Those Enemies Are So Fucking Funny They Make Me Wanna Cruiser Jump Without Looking!

idk what the limit is on modpack names

[rotund thorn]

thtas chill

i would add cosmetics but then i remembered they're completely pointless in solo

OH do you know what lunar can do that centralconfig cant?

new stuff

[desert hamlet]

our style of cosmetics

[rotund thorn]

i can see it can change curvings of certain things

[rotund thorn]

ah the big ship

im trying to retain more of the solo aspects like UI and control jank because i want it to be something that respects the actual solo LC scene

[desert hamlet]

edit every aspect of a moon

nothing off limits

[rotund thorn]

man how tf do curves work bruh

will have to figure that out

[rotund thorn]

what about stuff outside of moons? enemies, weather, etc?

[desert hamlet]

tbh I dont touch those

[desert hamlet]

every enemy's stats, name, etc

outside map objects(like pumpkins, rocks, outdoor traps)

[rotund thorn]

i would love to make the snareflea not a complete fuck you im taking 95% of your health in solo

thats like the only enemy that pisses me off in solo funnily enough

[rotund thorn]

christ you can literally just change everything huh

can you make the offense fire exit not complete ass

this is a joke youd have to like actually modify the moon itself to do that

[desert hamlet]

every stat of enemies and items

[rotund thorn]

can you change scrap values

thats a yes

god theres so much information overload...

but at the same time most of these values dont ever really need ot be changed so

[desert hamlet]

trap settings are really nice

[rotund thorn]

oh sweet more curves

what else can it do ? :0

is there anything more peculiar or zany or whatever

[desert hamlet]

well the top 6 things are nice lol

[rotund thorn]

ill have to check this out tomorrow definitely

top 6 things?

you just mean the things you sent or

[desert hamlet]

in the screenshot

ye

[rotund thorn]

oh no i mean like

is there anything more unusual that it can do

can it do weather scrap multipliers please tell me it can do weather scrap multipliers

[desert hamlet]

thats been a feature of weather registry for like

almost 2 years

[rotund thorn]

oh

and zeekerss just hasnt used it ever

[desert hamlet]

oh no weather reg is a mod

[rotund thorn]

yeah im just asking if lunar can do it

[desert hamlet]

Lunar config doesnt have weather settings

[rotund thorn]

dang

[desert hamlet]

it has registry as a dependancy

for a reason

[rotund thorn]

ok so i can use registry for just the weather then

[desert hamlet]

ye, thats why Lunar didnt add weather

to avoid conficts

[rotund thorn]

fair fair

smart

uhh i assume this means the stupid bug where weather is randomized at the start of a run isnt a thing

also im guessing stuff like trying to spawn a giant kiwi in a moon without any nodes for it will still not work. not like i need to i just want to check

[desert hamlet]

It shouldnt be, tho if it still happens you could always set

[rotund thorn]

touche

is that still how vanilla decides weather or

[desert hamlet]

nah different system, tho you could set it to use the vanilla system

[rotund thorn]

ok good

ill do whatever system works best i suppose

whats even the difference

[desert hamlet]

regardless id reccomend increasing clear weather

trust me

this isnt too much

its even like this

[rotund thorn]

ok ok

[desert hamlet]

maybe less since you ain using modded weathers

[rotund thorn]

^

[desert hamlet]

im not sure what that means 😭

[rotund thorn]

will spawning a giantkiwi on a moon that doest normally have it still not owrk

i assume not anyways

[desert hamlet]

tf is giant kiwi?

[rotund thorn]

i tried in centralconfig and the giant kiwi would not spawn on a moon it doesnt normally spawn on

the birdie

[desert hamlet]

you mean the fuckass bird

[rotund thorn]

the big bird

yes

[desert hamlet]

no hell be fine, or at least should be

[rotund thorn]

they are literally called GiantKiwi in the game files

idk ill have to test because again spawning the GiantKiwi on say, Experimentation, didn't work

[desert hamlet]

CC hasnt been updated in a year

[rotund thorn]

and i'd have to assume thats because zeekerss didnt put any nodes for it

[desert hamlet]

so hes prob broken with it

[rotund thorn]

ok last question im tired and need to sleep

what are you using for all this

the screenshots you sent

[desert hamlet]

gale mod manager

[rotund thorn]

is that better than r2modman lmfao

[desert hamlet]

imo ye lol

[rotund thorn]

r2modman takes ten fucking years to load is it better than that loading-wise

idk why r2modman takes so long to load it just does

[rotund thorn]

well thanks for the infrmation

cant wait to make my first modpackkk

i dont plan on getting into actual modding because i dont have that kind of time on my hands right now but this is fun

modpacks let you have associated configs too which is awesome

and.. also kind of necessary for this to work

OH WAIT i got one more question lmfaoo @desert hamlet

is there a way to make mineshaft loot spawns different

like, physically where they are. mineshaft currently spawns a lot more loot in the caves than in the factory areas

[desert hamlet]

not with this mod, but another great mod is sciencebird tweaks can add extra scraps to specifc interiors

[rotund thorn]

thats not really what i mean

also lunar really cant tweak interior scrap?

[desert hamlet]

physically impossible for a config mod

[rotund thorn]

fair enough

[desert hamlet]

sciencebird's one could work as a good bandaid at least lol

[rotund thorn]

what can lunar do with interiors

will i jsut havet o use sciencebird for all interior stuff

[desert hamlet]

ill say thats its most sparse part haha (interior spawns are part of moons section)

[rotund thorn]

shucks

[desert hamlet]

well thats just one feature of sciencebird, its not an interior mod

[rotund thorn]

i mean i do think mineshaft should be a biiit smaller so maybe i;ll do that instead

might try shrinking mineshaft vs increasing loot and see which is better

[rotund thorn]

what else can it do

albeit i dont really want two mods doing the same tweaks

[desert hamlet]

my fav feature

its all random niche changes

[rotund thorn]

interesting

but i dont think id want all that stuff

[desert hamlet]

you can turn on or off

[rotund thorn]

like id literally jsut want interior tweaking lol

ough this is a headache

[desert hamlet]

has a lot of nice things haha

easy to turn them off tho

[rotund thorn]

ill just start with lunar and see what it doesnt have that i still need and go from there, i guess

alright goodnight chat

[desert hamlet]

oh yeah youll need this if you dont have it already imo

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/ScienceBird/Universal_Radar/

[rotund thorn]

will i "need" it

might i remind you this is still a vanilla plus style modpack i dont wanna add toooo much 😭

[desert hamlet]

well many modded moons legit dont have maps without it

[rotund thorn]

i'll see what i like and what i dont like

fair...

okay ill try it then

[desert hamlet]

blame the map changes on zeek since without this mod devs have to do the map manually lol

[rotund thorn]

oh dear

im gonna go sleep now

[rotund thorn]

how did you do this 😭

what were the functions

i managed to do this but id rather its just done in one function tbh

[heady arch]

new weather registry version will have this option:

[frozen crystal]

hey so i just randomly remembered you asked about this and i found out what the problem is

the problem is circus facility itself is broken and no one knew for months because of the fact the vanilla game can occasionally just not load a moon landing properly, and everyone was just under the assumption of that probably

i dont know the exact specifics but something is causing circus to stop generating properly

whats really weird about this is centralconfig has a failsafe to generate regular factory if the interior fails to

for some reason this seems to be a biased issue for specific packs, because it does generate the failsafe interior on one of my packs, but doesnt on the other, and in your case, yours wasnt allowing it to

i already reported it to pacoito a few weeks ago

[cinder rampart]

ah good

does central even still get updates i just kinda switched to lunar

[frozen crystal]

unfortunately it probably wont

also to be clear circus can generate properly

it feels like a 1/3 chance if it does or not

generally speaking

of course thats completely inaccurate and just a feeling

[mystic warren]

Hey I got a question, how does the spawn curve multiplier work? Are the key points of the curve just literally multiplied by it?

[manic delta]

any idea how to fix this?

[manic delta]

cause once this happens we get stuck in orbit forever until a reload

[desert hamlet]

mod is not updated and may not work properly as of now (especially with LLL's updates)

unless you already have a setup config you dont wanna redo id reccomend switching to lunar config

[frozen crystal]

just came here to write that dawnlib version 0.7.3+ completely overrides centralconfig functioning at all, and if youre someone who still for some reason hasnt swapped to lunarconfig/started to, please just do so

as a whole, its a much better content configuration mod in the first place, and i doubt lass is going to come back any time soon, if at all, to fix centralconfig