#[v81] Half Life Black Mesa Moon + Interior

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runic pike
north thorn
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working on updating Black Mesa now, but also changing over to DawnLib to allow hotloading of the interior assets as well, so may take some time

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if I'm lucky, maybe it'll be ready tomorrow

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otherwise it unfortunately may take another week if I don't find time during the week to fiddle with it

storm sinew
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i don't think so. the owner of dungen+ say the other mod need too update their interiors

runic pike
storm sinew
runic pike
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ah

sacred quiver
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Yeah we tried getting it to work last night. Unfortunately we couldn't get it to generate properly so it may still be awhile. We don't know if it's something on our end or DG+, and rn Raph is on vacation so there will be no updates to DG+ for awhile

north thorn
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yea I did a little bit more debugging today, and it does seem like it may not be our issue unfortunately

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looks like DunGenPlus may be placing tiles where it shouldn't be, and preventing itself from later filling in the main paths that we require

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I'm far from knowledgable about how all that code works, so unless LadyRaphtalia can give me some pointers on where to look/what to try patching it may have to wait till they're back

uneven stream
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@knotty grove prayge

north thorn
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lol check the DunGenPlus thread @uneven stream bonk

uneven stream
sacred quiver
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Ik reading is hard🙄

uneven stream
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It is

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Especially when I avoid going basically anywhere due to the sheer number of pings lolol

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sacred quiver
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I always forget your discord is cursed

storm sinew
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how the update is working? ^^

sacred quiver
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Working great, just waiting on DunGenPlus to update. The update will also have some nice atmospheric changes 😄

umbral heron
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Waiting for weird editor stuff to update right? I think that's what you said

sacred quiver
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We are waiting for DunGenPlus to update on the thunderstore, we're using a modified version to do everything currently

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But we have it all working on v80

storm sinew
north thorn
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there's a few things left to do but DunGenPlus update that we needed should be out now, so soon ™

knotty grove
north thorn
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NODDERS I meant with the good ol thunderstore manifest delay I wasn't sure if it was available in managers lol

storm sinew
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i will wait is the best interiors i ever play

north thorn
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Version 3.4.0 yippee

  • Updated to support v81
  • Swapped from LethalLevelLoader to DawnLib, supporting moon and interior hotloading
  • Increased the day length by 50%
  • Improved the outdoor lighting
  • Added some custom ambience sounds
  • Added custom footstep sounds
  • Added the gunkfish to interior spawns
  • Fixed an issue that caused generation to take longer than necessary
  • Added support LethalCompanyVR's single-pass rendering
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that took some doin

sacred quiver
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WE ARE LIVE

pastel magnet
north thorn
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it has been brought to my attention that I done goofed the packaging

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fix is goin out now

uneven stream
umbral heron
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its so good to have this back

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interior hotloading is gonna do wonders for the ppl playing in my profile

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thanks so much for the work yall did on this

sacred quiver
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We have more planned😈

umbral heron
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wonderful

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did u guys add custom footsteps for it?

sacred quiver
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I did, it was tedious and painful. I hope people like it😂

umbral heron
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lol, its pretty good

sacred quiver
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They are all from Black Mesa. I tried to keep everything as accurate to the original

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@uneven stream You need to change the version number in this thread to v81 btw😝

storm sinew
umbral heron
storm sinew
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very nice tnx so much ^^

north thorn
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yeah I wouldn't think so, it's just the only interior that has a weight on the moon by default

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anything that modifies the weights should probably work, though I would imagine it's probably best to do it through DawnLib

umbral heron
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i guess it is a little frustrating to some ppl that you cant edit dawnlib weights without lunar, but at least lunar lets you stop it from touching stuff you dont want it to

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idm really lunar is pretty well made

uneven stream
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[v81] Half Life Black Mesa Moon + Interior

north thorn
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huh? we have a config for the weights for Black Mesa stuff at least thonk

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I guess adding other interiors to it from non-DawnLib stuff I don't know about tho

umbral heron
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oh is that so

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didnt know dawn does it on a per-mod level

sacred quiver
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Yeah the current Black Mesa config is generated by Dawnlib

wary prism
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Do you know the format for the interior spawning? is it mod:moon=+weight?

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Thats my assumption based on how it generated lol

wary prism
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Trying to add the dungeon to vanilla moons atm

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just straight the moon name seems to work too, idk if the mod name has to be included

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Just moon name works as well sweetttt

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Just took my funny moon spawn list from LLL and Find & Replaced :300 with =+300 lmao

north thorn
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oh nice lol

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yeah unfortunately I couldn't tell you, but glad it's working

maiden skiff
north thorn
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ahh that's something I didn't think about, we can add that next update

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can't give an ETA though

uneven stream
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Might as well add a zag cam removal in the config too for the potatoes out there hmmmmmmmm

north thorn
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sounds like a you job teehee

pastel magnet
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he can make and use config in editor with DawnLib

sacred quiver
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If he can figure it out😂

north thorn
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indeed I kinda figured so

pastel magnet
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lol

north thorn
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and I assume we can do the same for the day length

pastel magnet
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the day length thing has a bool on the DuskMoonDefinition for whether to generate a config

north thorn
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ah I see

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I didn't notice it

pastel magnet
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im fairly sure it's defaulted to create one, someone must've turned it off

north thorn
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I set it up and I sure as hell didn't change any defaults

sacred quiver
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Don't look at me

pastel magnet
sacred quiver
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Wow Zaggy, way to lie😝

pastel magnet
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lol

north thorn
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I didn't say it wasn't the default, I said I didn't change it lol

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will have to check what's going on there later

pastel magnet
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for creating new configs, there's no documentation on it 😔, but the config stuff is a list in the DuskDungeonDefinition and other definitions at the very top, it supports a decent list of different types
And then there's a component ConfigReader that you can use that runs unityevents depending on the config you give it

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the config stuff isn't used by many and ConfigReader is new, so if you have any needs if you use it lmk

north thorn
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ah so we would need our own script to set whatever values we need then I assume

pastel magnet
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it should just be something like:

  • Create the config at the definition
  • Use ConfigReader to run an event to disable the functionality of the Cams when they spawn in, disable the cameras or the scripts or smthn idk
north thorn
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right, but an event needs a scripting function to trigger and I assume you don't have anything generic for this yet

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based on your description

pastel magnet
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the ConfigReader triggers the UnityEvent, you just need to add stuff to the unity event in editor

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it triggers the event based on what kind of config it is, it uses an editor tool to make it look nicer and not just like 10 unityevents cuz of the different types that are supported, lol

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oh if you mean like, what would trigger ConfigReader
it would either be another event from somewhere else, or iirc i put a PlayOnAwake

north thorn
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hum maybe I'm misunderstanding the setup

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I assumed ConfigReader would fire the event initially and on change, and then I would need to hook up an object target and method to call

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the latter part requires a separate component to do the actual work no?

pastel magnet
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uhh, there isn't support for the config it has being edited, though i should add something for that
it does fire initially yes
needing to hook up an object target and method to call, you can just do that in editor

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did you forgor UnityEvents are serialized?

north thorn
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I'm aware, but if there's no method that does what I want, what do other than make

pastel magnet
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yes, you'd need to make a method that turns off the zag cams

north thorn
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point is it's not all in editor so Jeff would need help lol

pastel magnet
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it depends, if disabling the monobehaviour/networkbehaviour is enough to disable the functionality, then you could do that

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but otherwise yeah, you'd need a method that's called something like DisableFunctionality or whatever lol

north thorn
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ah, yeah, I suppose I hadn't remembered that you could do that directly

knotty grove
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@north thorn I assume everything went well? I know someone else updated their interior mod that uses dungenplus, so I assume dungenplus is good now

north thorn
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it has been working without issue for us as far as I can tell at least peepoHappy

sacred quiver
knotty grove
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It's certinaly possible, just don't know when I would do that

sacred quiver
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We don't have the scrap made yet so no rush. It would help give me motivation tho😂

sacred quiver
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@knotty grove I guess we could just use custom item groups to accomplish the same thing. So disregard my request 😅

tardy turret
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finally got around to trying this interior again, there were a couple bugs however:

  • only host can interact with the elevator
    this is a pretty big one (and one that was fixed in the past but it is back now?), only the host can interact with the elevator controls and even when the host uses it the elevator just does not work for clients at all (host will teleport away as seen in the clip)

  • breaking animations
    i have reported this before but now i am 100% certain the animation bug i keep getting (zoomed out terminal, floating in the cruiser) is caused by this interior, as it happened for the first time ever in v81 right after installing it again
    this might just be a weird mod incompat but this time it even broke the animations of the host for the client (as seen in the video)

  • zero value items
    i dont have an explanation for this but the interior spawned a couple items worth 0 (could also be related to the moon i only tried this on the black mesa moon itself) (maybe dawnlib?)
    as i have not seen zero value items on any other moon before with this modpack i think it is related to this mod in some way (needs further testing)

sacred quiver
tardy turret
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vanilla

sacred quiver
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Thanks, we'll try and get these figured out

tardy turret
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really liked all the new changes to the interior

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especially the sounds

sacred quiver
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Glad you liked them 🙂 I plan on adding more ambient sounds to things in tiles and maybe some specific ones for specific tiles

uneven stream
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Glad you reported all that you did!

tardy turret
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oh yeah one very minor thing the materials on this mesh were flickering (the tile is the big room opposite to the two elevators on the ground floor)

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uneven stream
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Helps us know what to fix up

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and by us I mostly mean poor Zaggy

sacred quiver
tardy turret
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and i think the sound of the charging station did not stop playing for clients xd

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or at played for a bit longer than i was charging it

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very minor issue

sacred quiver
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Can you send us a profile code?

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@tardy turret

tardy turret
north thorn
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some action in-game that is?

tardy turret
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i can look through my recording again but it is hard to tell (at least the zoomed terminal bug because you dont notice it when inside)

north thorn
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yeah it's tricky

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I can't reproduce the elevator desync locally either

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any errors in the log when the clients interact with it?

tardy turret
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the only other thing i did in between was interacting with the charging thingy

tardy turret
north thorn
tardy turret
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yes

north thorn
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hmm, curious

tardy turret
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client could not use the elevator i used it while they were inside of it

north thorn
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I wonder if it could've been a larger desync

tardy turret
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for me they went up and teleported away after a while

north thorn
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the elevator is fine for me, so maybe something interfered with networking more generally

tardy turret
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for them i stayed on the ground floor and teleported away

tardy turret
north thorn
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right yeah

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so the host was the only one seeing the elevator move then

tardy turret
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yes

north thorn
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might be worth checking for errors on both sides then

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did the elevator ever work properly for you?

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I am wondering if it could be an issue with hotloading

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lemme try a few things before I give up for now

tardy turret
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i did not see anything unusual that day

north thorn
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across clients

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it feels like this could either be a conflict or some kind of condition that breaks things

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I just tried landing, taking off, landing again, then using it, worked fine

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tried landing, exiting to menu, loading in, landing again, then using it, worked fine

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so I'm not sure what the issue would be

tardy turret
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i only played this session today with the interior

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i only had this problem once pre v81 which was fixed back then

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i can do some more testing tomorrow maybe i can figure something out

north thorn
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yeah I'm wondering if it'd work for you the first time you land after launching the game

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I could also try repro with your modpack but I don't have a ton of time to do so

little thistle
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Experienced a bug on this moon recently even though it was working fine a week ago.

The log looks like it was trying to spawn a gunkfish infinitely but it ended up that no mobs besides barnacles spawned for the entire round.

ocean tapir
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Are there any chances that this team will develop a Xen moon + interior for a future project because click's version is way outdated. I don't think it will be getting any patch/compatibility updates?

sacred quiver
north thorn
little thistle
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Also i saw that dawn lib updated today and I wonder if that would fix the issue or not but i am unsure

sacred quiver
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Upload the entire log please 🙂

north thorn
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the whole thing would be preferable, if it's not so big Discord rejects it

little thistle
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Sorry, is there any way to shrink this file down, its too big for the discord 50mb limit...

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Every time I try to use the thunderstore it doesnt cooperate. I only have the file in a ".log" file which i open in notepad

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even though its just a txt file, its 230mb because we played so long.

little thistle
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Just tag me if there's any solution I'll try it. Or I could try trimming the early parts of the doc, idk whats better

uneven stream
little thistle
north thorn
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oh a zip would've probably done it, plain text with lots of repeats compresses very well

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oof, lots of spam from a body replacement

little thistle
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i can always delete it later but i have space

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its never had this issue before so i wondered if it had something to do with a recent dawn lib update, not the most current version

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but idk

pastel magnet
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0.9.22 had issues with enemies
0.9.23 should be fine though

little thistle
abstract yacht
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The elevator desync is always reproduceable. The video example is a POV of Host at the top and Client at the bottom.
The client is never able to use buttons in elevator or outside. Never sees elevator doors move.
No errors are thrown when pressing buttons.

The profile is fresh with Black Mesa + Imperium.
Tested twice without any updates for dependencies and with full updates.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dvNlejGK1uY

YouTube
silly filly
Client elevator unusable (Black Mesa Interior)
▶ Play video
uneven stream
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@north thorn

north thorn
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my test profile isn't quite that bare, but at the same time, there's not a lot in it that should interact with the networking

abstract yacht
north thorn
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hmm, yeah, could be worth you trying on your machine to see if the problem happens in my profile thonk

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it's been a while since I tested it, so it's possible that the mods have changed, but I or Zac will probably test again soon

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when you test again, make sure to grab a recording of the entire process from the first time you enter the menu for both LAN clients, I want to see if there's any order of operations causing this

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Zac tried with Black Mesa/Imperium and their dependencies, and it was fine

abstract yacht
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I have already made another two tries.
Firstly I've deleted the save folder, then created a new fresh profile with Black Mesa and set its price to 0. Launched first instance to the lobby, then launched second instance to join. Got the same results as in video.
Now I've got your profile, installed Black Mesa to it, did same steps and got same results

abstract yacht
sacred quiver
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I literally just did it

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Not sure what's going on on your end

sacred quiver
sacred quiver
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@abstract yacht I guess I should have cleared my mod cache. Now I am having the issue. Even on our own internal version. So thanks for that I guess😂

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We'll try to figure this out

abstract yacht
sacred quiver
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Well our current build doesn't seem to work so something must be borked somewhere

north thorn
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well it looks like I fricked the packaging up sad

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the dll wasn't NGO patched

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I'm shocked that you were the only one reporting this tbh

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okay repackage is uploading as 3.4.3

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halo reference chills

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@uneven stream wake up halo nerd its a halo reference

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@abstract yacht sorry it took a while to figure this out, I didn't test thoroughly enough when you brought it up initially, but should be resolved now