[v81] Half Life Black Mesa Moon + Interior

[old fiber]

ayo

[vapid pendant]

project size isn't a big issue

individual asset size is

[uneven stream]

mod when bundled is like 450 Mb

entire project is like 11 gigs

[old fiber]

damn but then again im not supeised, u absolutley cooked with this

[vapid pendant]

11 gigs also includes the interity of lethal company

[uneven stream]

yeah haha

[old fiber]

oh damn, lowkey i would love a game of just this interior, like sort of horror gane

[uneven stream]

and entire sections of Black Mesa game rips with full texture resolutions that I pull from when I need them 😛

[old fiber]

lol

[ornate coral]

From the VR game?

My bad idk which half life game assets these are from tbh

[old fiber]

i cant wait to start my luigis mansion interior, there was also a rip for that, and the rooms are literally perfect

[old fiber]

isnt black mesa polrtal?

portal

[ornate coral]

No.

Half life is black mesa

[old fiber]

idk u might need to check ur sources 🤔

[ornate coral]

Brotha

Use your eyes

Black mesa HALF LIFE

Portal is aperture science labs

[old fiber]

just just RAHHH no no

[ornate coral]

What.

[grave knot]

what a conversation at the end Lul

Black Mesa is the name of the Building/company in the Half Life 1 Game, there is a remake of half life 1 by the name of Black Mesa as well

[ornate coral]

I don't even know bro

[ornate coral]

Exactly

Where you are Gordon Freeman!

[uneven stream]

nah Black Mesa was the recreation of Half Life that Valve allowed to be sold as a retail product since it was so good

it was originally a half life 2 mod

and was a fan project

[ornate coral]

Weird

But cool!

[uneven stream]

but Valve loved it and told them to make a real game from it

[ornate coral]

Like sonic mania

That's Info I didn't even know

So cool!

[uneven stream]

Valve is rad

[grave knot]

I do recall that info a bit, valve is so cool with fan projects if they are good enough

It's just like portal

[ornate coral]

Portal is cool

[grave knot]

It was a fan project made to exist in the real universe of valve

after valve got a hold of it anyway

pretty sure it was a quake mod at the time

[ornate coral]

Huh. Even more info

How did I not know this bro...

[grave knot]

I grew up on valve games lul so I love all the info about em

[ornate coral]

I'm like the "I know the base story but not all the lore" kinda bro

Lol

[grave knot]

thats fine, most people are normal like that LuL

[winged wasp]

*Ropes

I love that video

[uneven stream]

New Green Energy ball >:)

[grave knot]

How is the progress? Heh

[uneven stream]

for some god forsaken reason fire exits were teleporting players under the map to their death

this bug came out of nowhere lmao

but we are trying one more thing tonight

if it works I will probably release it tonight

if not I will work on it tomorrow lol

[grave knot]

Lul I'ma be sleepin in a minute anyway, but that happened with another interior at one point in time for me

It literally just insta kills you Lmaoo

[uneven stream]

yeah haha

[grave knot]

I'll check back when I wake up 💤 Goodluck

[uneven stream]

🫡

[uneven stream]

May not have released tonight, but this room had some more time in the oven

[errant iron]

Is it gonna work with Facility Meltdown?

Sorry if the question has been asked in the past

[sacred quiver]

It's going to have it's own event on taking the apparatus in the future

[errant iron]

Sounds very interesting!

[white stump]

ngl, I'm kinda digging Half-Life with LC's edge detect postprocess.
Sure, you need to add normal maps to everything to keep the style consistent, but...

[half drift]

man you are like a genuine wizard. i can't wait to see this when it's like fully done with all the features you want to add.

[celest pulsar]

Worked magic with Cobblemon, working magic here too with this interior

[ornate coral]

Dude

I literally had my fucking jaw drop to the floor

@uneven stream I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU PROGRAMMED COBBLEMON

Dude genuinely such an inspiration

[thin stratus]

Omg

Dude Is active in like

Every community

[undone fulcrum]

[ornate coral]

Wh

[uneven stream]

I'm not the sole programmer tho 🙂 I am one of 15 coders there and most of my code will be in the next update like the fishing update and battle AI 😅

[uneven stream]

Yeah it has really grown on me too!

[uneven stream]

Are the dogs dead? I have noticed more and more that baboon hawks have been killing the dogs more often haha

[undone fulcrum]

no, just stuck

[uneven stream]

Ah yeah I wish the dog AI was better lol

The get stuck so often in that stretched out pose haha

[ornate coral]

Still

Hella COOLK

[pastel magnet]

technically they're not reaching their "destination" i think thats why lol

[uneven stream]

Ah interesting 🤔 Ill have to double check the off mesh links maybe since the nav mesh was rebaked up there

[foggy ivy]

hello its me i make lambda company your mod looks pretty cool

i just found out about this

[celest pulsar]

I think Zeekers has no sort of fail-safe should a dog never reach its destination from a lunge hence those kind of silly moments

Similarly with Old Birds walking infinitely in one direction if it gets caught on the terrain

[uneven stream]

oh glad you like it! Your mod is what I use for my moon+interior too 🙂

new update coming today will add a lot too!

[foggy ivy]

im thinkin next time i work on it i wanna add the crowbar and headcrabs but is there anything you're thinking about yourself

though id imagine the actual enemy that spawns would probably be an entire headcrab canister..

not literally. though maybe could use that if i wanna spawn them outside

new update? awesome..

[uneven stream]

Yeah I was going to add my own crowbar weapon to find in the facility as well as custom headcrab + zombie employees, vortigaunts, and barnacles BUT I don't own a monopoly on that stuff haha so if you also want to do it then go for it 😄

[civic canopy]

Id kill for a crowbar weapon (especially if it works in VR)

[uneven stream]

I also already have WIP tripmine laser hazards in the works (needs some tweaks)

wanted to get them in for this update today, but they just need more work haha

also I am very excited for some custom scrap to sprinkle around the interior, especially since Batby made it easy to make custom scrap for specific interiors now

[civic canopy]

🙂

[undone fulcrum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1066656539148034069/1233859386271862825/freeman_visits_his_friends.mp4?ex=662ea099&is=662d4f19&hm=97ec28106dff269d716cb99ed5a4f25146ffad18f6a0b23434075c8cd84a8be6&

alsoooooooo

is the moon balancing gonna drop with the patch?

[sacred quiver]

Like the size and scrap being adjusted? Yes

[undone fulcrum]

the price

most of all

[sacred quiver]

We're not sure about a moon price yet. We were thinking about still letting it be free for the time being in case we missed any issues

[uneven stream]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIpJKg04tR0&ab_channel=PlasteredCrab

Video of the inside of the chamber so far

[winged wasp]

YOOOOOOOOO

[uneven stream]

just realized I recorded that video in 20fps with OBS hahaha

looks way worse on that video than it did in game

😂

[undone fulcrum]

gj on not setting up high hopes for anyone playing on the current ver LMAOOOO

[uneven stream]

haha my OBS settings were left at 20 fps whenever I was recording the game for the Black Mesa moon travel screen and forgot to put it back to 60 😅

that way there is a fun tiny preview video on the terminal when you travel to black mesa 🙂

[fleet night]

so does the interior work with the new LLL stuff? wondering what interiors i should reads to my pack

[uneven stream]

yeah the next update will be for v50

[fleet night]

ah, and when does that come out

[uneven stream]

hopefully tonight

will have these changes

[undone fulcrum]

oh, i thought moon makers were universally against making preview vids cause there are literally like 2-3 in the base game and they weigh a TON compared to the map itself

[fleet night]

any eta cause i have plans for tonight and wondering if i could theoretically squeeze it into the pack before

not rushing or anything just planning things out

[uneven stream]

nah it was only 20 mbs

I made sure to record it at 20 fps at 360x202 and without sound so it stayed small

[uneven stream]

if this fix I am doing works I am hoping for a few hours from now

[fleet night]

how many is a couple 2 or 3 cause we start in 3

again not rushing sorry if i come off as such

[uneven stream]

hopefully 2

[fleet night]

ight, looking forward cause i havent tried it yet

[civic canopy]

Is this update for v50 support or is that still a while out

[fleet night]

they said it is yea

[split fern]

update looking great

[uneven stream]

Fire exits are still giving trouble

Might be a bit more and I'll get it back to how they were before trying to sync them

[fleet night]

thats fine, take your time to make things all good

[untold knot]

i know you plan on doing more but that was the most peaceful resonance cascade i've ever seen 😂

animations looking great tho! so excited for this

[uneven stream]

yeah haha it is the best I can do for now, but my headcanon (due to limitations) is that the Xen Crystal in the chamber is keeping it somewhat stable 😅

Excited to mess with custom events for appartus pull later too to see if I can get something cool to happen when it is pulled

[untold knot]

can you have lightning effects indoors?

that could zap the player potentially

maybe not in the same manner as the weather effect

but as like a random damage region that pops up every few seconds with an effect

[uneven stream]

I plan on trying to do interior green xen lightning if I can

where it teleports the player if it strikes them

maybe spawning an enemy idk

have to explore it a bit 😛

[split fern]

I’d hope the crystal is compatible with melt down! It’ll be so cool

[uneven stream]

it is just an apparatus basically so I assume it would be 🙂

[uneven stream]

Fire exits have been squashed

no need to revert to broken stuff like I was going to fall back to

spent the last 9 hours today working on just that

[split fern]

Ah, the joys of coding and game design

[uneven stream]

😭

[uneven stream]

Alright Version 1.0.0 is out now 🙂

[uneven stream]

@upbeat haven

Here you go finally lol

[upbeat haven]

It’s beautiful

You’ve successfully rendered my free time to 0

[winged wasp]

Congrats on the full release!!

[upbeat haven]

In fact I now won’t have the chance to sleep tonight

[winged wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-yippee-creature-yippee-meme-yippee-gif-gif-1489386840712152603

[upbeat haven]

You’re magical

Congrats 🎊🎉

[uneven stream]

I hope you have fun! I'll add more to it as time goes on, but it's too the point where it's very feature complete enough to warrant a 1.0.0 now 😄

[uneven stream]

Thank you! I hope you like it!

[worldly escarp]

@uneven stream
Unable to land on Black Mesa

Full Log

Stuck on seed gen.
It may be WT again though

Yep

@cyan drift BetaWTBeta breaking again. 😛

[uneven stream]

Ah glad it wasn't my mod then haha

[civic canopy]

I didnt know thumpers could climb ladders

Cool, that scared the fucking shit out of me

[mossy summit]

The grind-set of using the same config for each interior of similar style

I have this SCP and starlancer warehouse share the the same configs

[upbeat haven]

That’s foul

[mossy summit]

I have cozy office and office using the same

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/193863930693550080/1181643803694731294/DCC50928-D451-44BE-9255-1E685EF21C6D.gif

[upbeat haven]

You’re foul

[mossy summit]

Also the configs arnt mine

I just steal from easy idle

[upbeat haven]

You’re high off the tzp your drone emits

@worldly escarp I have also had trouble loading in on custom moons

Is this a beta weather issue

[worldly escarp]

🤷‍♂️

I only know if it causes an error

WT seems to have trouble with Moons that do not have Any Weather.

[upbeat haven]

I also have had some serious breakage

Not like oh can’t load or desyncs

But people randomly clipping through the floor

[civic canopy]

@uneven stream With the new lighting, more balanced loot spawning and general polish in 1.0 I can confidently say this is one of the best dungeons for the game. Really impressive the improvement you've made. Now we just need some ambient sounds and it'll be top 3 🫵

[upbeat haven]

Me and another player being sent into a black void

[worldly escarp]

let me guess. In vents?

[upbeat haven]

No

[worldly escarp]

Oh?

[upbeat haven]

I’d have to get up to show you the clips

I’m lazy

[worldly escarp]

Take a picture of the room tile. He may need to update the mesh

[upbeat haven]

This was in vanilla

Not about this interior

[civic canopy]

Bruh

[worldly escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/bunnies-what-confused-meh-gif-12007368131756137942

[upbeat haven]

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/29UIOIEZFssaea/d1337Ys7b1wu?invite=cr-MSxYQkMsMTQ3NDQxNTIs

[civic canopy]

That is not vanilla or black mesa

[celest pulsar]

Sent to the Shadow Realm lmao

[upbeat haven]

not like vanilla vanilla

but was just on normal factory

then

what happened that I couldnt see

[uneven stream]

I have offmeshlinks for monsters so they don't get stuck haha

[uneven stream]

oh thank god

you scared me lmao

[upbeat haven]

lmao

2 seconds after release and ive found game destroying bugs

[uneven stream]

had me sweatin

[upbeat haven]

https://tenor.com/view/rengoku-stare-gif-25157393

However you're still not safe

I still have to do my bug hunting duties

[lament tartan]

Is it normal for enemies not to spawn or would a mod be a result of that?

[uneven stream]

Nah that is likely some other conflict you have haha

No issues with that, in fact we are getting tons of monster spawns right now in a big group together playing this 😅

[split fern]

great update. Works mostly good with meltdown

[lament tartan]

Damn, I'm disabling stuff but so far the only one that has spawned is the ghost girl

[uneven stream]

ah good to know!

[uneven stream]

I saw you posted in office about spawns so I imagine it is an issue on your end

getting messages from people sent about monsters scaring the crap out of them in vents so I know they are working at the moment 😅

[lament tartan]

Do you think maybe Starlancer or Gordion_Sect0 can effect it?

[uneven stream]

I don't believe any other interior can affect other interiors

[lament tartan]

Alright, guess I'll have to scatter around lol

[sacred quiver]

Wanna post a mod list?

[lament tartan]

For sure, is there a way to do that without sending images?

[sacred quiver]

Honestly not really sure😅

How many mods we talking here?

[lament tartan]

Quite alot, like 78 lmao

I'm sure I can write it out

[uneven stream]

That is a lot haha

txt file might be best

[lament tartan]

There we go

If you see anything weird, it'd help a ton!

[sacred quiver]

The butler fix mod isn't needed with the most recent version or more company, but I don't think that's causing the issue

Maybe try disabling the enemy mods first and see if that fixes it?

Are you getting spawns on vanilla moons?

[lament tartan]

Yes

I've disabled Black Mesa and headed to titan

Everything spawned fine

[sacred quiver]

And with Black Mesa things don't spawn on titan, even with a vanilla interior?

[lament tartan]

I'm gonna test that right now

[uneven stream]

that is so weird since others say it is fine 😅

[lament tartan]

ok so it does work on other interiors, Imma try Black Mesa again

okay so

I finally encountered a thumper

Okay, it seems to spawn enemies now!

[sacred quiver]

Yeah I'm not having issues with enemies spawning on titan or black mesa

[lament tartan]

Other than that, I'm now having crashes happen on that map alone

Weird

[sacred quiver]

Logs?

[lament tartan]

Where can I check for that? Sorry, not too familiar with Thunderstore

[sacred quiver]

Go to the settings, debugging, and it should be near the top

[sacred quiver]

Is the crash repeatable? I'm seeing a lot of log spam from loaforcsSoundAPI

@north thorn Can you spot anything in that log per chance?

[north thorn]

for enemies not spawning?

[sacred quiver]

They crashed

[lament tartan]

Yeah, just randomly crashed, black screen, etc.

[north thorn]

uh oh

there's never anything in the logs from a CTD, but I'm betting I know what the crash is

(and Zac does too lol)

[uneven stream]

https://tenor.com/view/who-me-say-what-gif-4813096655688403215

[north thorn]

if you want to confirm, you could grab your crash dump from %tmp%\ZeekerssRBLX\Lethal Company\Crashes

[lament tartan]

Alrighty

[north thorn]

oh not the log, the crash dump

[lament tartan]

I see a file but opening it gives me random code

[north thorn]

I have the tool to analyze it don't worry about that

[lament tartan]

Oh alrighty

Here it is

[north thorn]

damn, first time I've seen a crash that wasn't related to rendering

you win an award

UnityPlayer!DynamicHeapAllocator::CreateTLSFBlock+0x170
UnityPlayer!DynamicHeapAllocator::Allocate+0x1ea
UnityPlayer!DualThreadAllocator<DynamicHeapAllocator>::Allocate+0xc1
UnityPlayer!MemoryManager::Allocate+0x8a
UnityPlayer!FMODMemoryAlloc+0x64
UnityPlayer!FMOD::MemPool::alloc+0x8a
UnityPlayer!FMOD::MemPool::calloc+0x16
UnityPlayer!FMOD::OutputSoftware::createSample+0x34d
UnityPlayer!FMOD::SystemI::createSample+0x44a
UnityPlayer!FMOD::SystemI::createSoundInternal+0x236e
UnityPlayer!FMOD::SystemI::createSound+0x5d0
UnityPlayer!FMOD::System::createSound+0x43
UnityPlayer!LoadFMODSound+0xb0a
UnityPlayer!AudioClip::AwakeFromLoadThreaded+0xb8
UnityPlayer!PersistentManager::ReadAndActivateObjectThreaded+0x1c8
UnityPlayer!PersistentManager::LoadFileCompletelyThreaded+0x45c
UnityPlayer!LoadSceneOperation::Perform+0x66b
UnityPlayer!PreloadManager::ProcessSingleOperation+0x1d4
UnityPlayer!PreloadManager::Run+0x1e7
UnityPlayer!PreloadManager::Run+0x9
UnityPlayer!Thread::RunThreadWrapper+0x403
kernel32!BaseThreadInitThunk+0x1d
ntdll!RtlUserThreadStart+0x28

[north thorn]

seems like it may actually be related to sounds and perhaps even specifically to the sound API

how many sound replacements do you have?

[lament tartan]

Just lethal resonance

[north thorn]

might be good to bring that crash analysis over to https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1208370988715221052

not sure what would be happening here

[lament tartan]

Alrighty, thank you

[north thorn]

it would definitely be worth finding out how consistent this crash is as well, and also whether it can/has ever happened on other moons/interiors

there's a possibility something is up with a sound in the Black Mesa mod, but from looking at the logs it seems like you were inside at least briefly before the crash occurred? The sound in question would've been during landing

or maybe you have the fast landing mod?

may be this error, and I wonder if it's some runaway memory usage from somewhere https://issuetracker.unity3d.com/issues/high-memory-usage-and-crash-on-dynamicheapallocator-createtlsfblock-when-opening-project-with-sprite-atlas-v2-enabled

seems like their fix referred specifically to Sprite Atlas V2 though, so perhaps this isn't exactly the same issue

[cyan drift]

how in the world

.<

[north thorn]

https://forum.unity.com/threads/fmod-crashes-with-async-load.512087/

perhaps also related

seems strange if anything would be async-loading a scene though

@lament tartan still unsure about the cause of the crash, so I would be very interested to hear if this happens to you again, where/when/how, and get another crash dump to look at

I especially want to see if it consistently happens in the same stack trace, if it's some sort of race condition then it could move around

[lament tartan]

You got it

[cyan drift]

i know what the issue is, no clue how it's possible for it to happen tho 😆

i'll get it fixed tomorrow

[north thorn]

anything that might be a problem for the moon/interior?

[worldly escarp]

Dependencies list in thunderstore or R2mod manager

[sacred quiver]

Oh yeah😅

[mossy summit]

map doesnt load

get stuck on setting seed

Stack trace:
System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2[TKey,TValue].get_Item (TKey key) (at <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_001E)
WeatherTweaks.Variables.LevelHasWeather (LevelWeatherType weatherType) (at <82c08d567c5c41c58f188df999796555>:IL_004D)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::SpawnOutsideHazards>(RoundManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::FinishGeneratingLevel>(RoundManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::GenerateNewLevelClientRpc>(RoundManager,int,int)
RoundManager+<LoadNewLevelWait>d__118.MoveNext () (at <255c0877f9414c3aa6f1fe5079ac13f3>:IL_0076)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0026)

[13:30:44.4036338] [Error  : Unity Log] KeyNotFoundException: The given key 'Black MesaLevel (SelectableLevel)' was not present in the dictionary.
Stack trace:
System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2[TKey,TValue].get_Item (TKey key) (at <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_001E)
WeatherTweaks.Variables.LevelHasWeather (LevelWeatherType weatherType) (at <82c08d567c5c41c58f188df999796555>:IL_004D)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::SpawnOutsideHazards>(RoundManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::FinishGeneratingLevel>(RoundManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::GenerateNewLevelClientRpc>(RoundManager,int,int)
RoundManager+<LoadNewLevelWait>d__118.MoveNext () (at <255c0877f9414c3aa6f1fe5079ac13f3>:IL_0076)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0026)```

hmm this may be an mrov moment

weather tweaks

[errant iron]

I just loaded in with Weather Tweaks installed

Do you use the stable or beta version of Weather Tweaks?

[mossy summit]

beta weather tweaks?

I use beta

[errant iron]

I use Stable

[mossy summit]

just loaded without

@cyan drift

uhhuh~1

killing you

[errant iron]

just use stable lol

[mossy summit]

stable sucks

[errant iron]

But yeah, the moon and interior are pretty unoptimised from what I gather. I get like 50 fps with a mid to high end PC

[errant iron]

how so?

[mossy summit]

beta is awesome because of weather being able to change mid day

along with being able to have multiple weathers on 1 planet

[mossy summit]

does cull factory work

[errant iron]

I have it installed, don't know if it's doing anything

[errant iron]

It sounds like a recipe for incompatibilities

[undone fulcrum]

damn, black mesa's filesize is really handicapping my pack, my slow pc friends cant even launch the game cause it alone takes ~2gb of ram and one other friend cant download it from ts cause his connection tanks and gets terminated 😦

[uneven stream]

Yeah all those pieces of room tiles makes it close to 500 Mb 😅

[uneven stream]

And yeah it's as optimized as it can be right now, but it is just a lot of geometry since it is not low poly like most interiors due to it being game rips haha

[regal valley]

Ouch, 20fps in 1920p
And I usually play in 1440p

[uneven stream]

Are you using Cullfactory? I've never had it dip below 40 fps for me

[regal valley]

Ah shit, I disabled it while testing something else oops

will try again with it on

[uneven stream]

Was gonna say it shouldn't be that bad 😂

[regal valley]

Will try in 1440p this time, like how I play normally

[uneven stream]

Definitely doesn't reach 80 or 90 fps like some interiors due to detail, but it should be closer to 60 and playable fps levels, even in VR from my big group testing 😅

[regal valley]

What are your specs?

[uneven stream]

I just have a 3060 with 16 gigs of RAM

But my friend who plays in VR has a 1080

[regal valley]

Ah ok we have similar specs then

44 FPS in 1440p here

Yeah that's way better, I could probably lock my game at 30 fps when I go there and FrameGen it to 60

[tacit vapor]

is still the price supposed to be 0?

new dropship barely fits

[uneven stream]

Kept it that way just in case some players find bugs, didn't want their run to be ruined on accident, even tho I'm pretty sure we squashed all the big bugs besides inverse teleporter not sending you to playable areas, but that's due to nav mesh being in places it shouldn't so that's being looked at 🙂

[tacit vapor]

i see

[uneven stream]

The fuck is that lmao

[regal valley]

It's #1234140531223822376 message

[uneven stream]

Jesus Christ

Yeah I never planned for anything but the vanilla item ship to drop through the item chute lol

[undone fulcrum]

need me a mod that adds a chance for a nuke to be sent instead of a dropship

[uneven stream]

That thing is huuuuge haha

[tacit vapor]

would be coolt if it fit in the tube but i guess it wouldnt be aligned with vanilla dropship

[uneven stream]

Yeah that tube I sculpted to be for the exact path of the vanilla drop ship lol

And roughly for the size of that drop ship too, didn't know there were mods to make it 5x as big lol

[tacit vapor]

haha it just came out today so

and its already my new fav mod

[cyan drift]

I know about this, cannot figure out why it's happening, expect fix tomorrow

[cyan drift]

lol

[worldly escarp]

Another spawning error reported after installing. Hmm

#1225480301858521108 message

[worldly escarp]

Yeah it's BWT

[rose blaze]

ayo this sounds pretty pog

what have I been missing? :o

Welp I did tell myself I'd wait till this got to 1.0 or so before I give it a try/add it to my runs

so here goes nothing, was excited to try this for a long time

I was gonna wait till custom scrap too buuuut I think I'd be waitin' too long plus I got a lot of scrap mods as is

[old fiber]

hey what was ur issue with inverse teleporter, so I dont make the same mistake

[compact niche]

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/2ab73vsJ-rrTyV/d1337yf0P1ch?invite=cr-MSxzM1AsMTkxNzQ4NTczLA

For some reason this happened

[fleet night]

bro had no clip on

[uneven stream]

The reason is due to nav mesh being in places you don't want, and I know other interior devs have the same issue, especially with ripped geometry

[cyan drift]

this should be fixed in latest beta version

🥲

[old fiber]

alr ty

[mental juniper]

Is there a way to customise the price of the moon?

[uneven stream]

I'm not sure personally but I'm sure there is a way! What price would you set it to?

I was going to set it to have a price once I with with other interior devs to sort out the issues with the inverse teleporter sending you to the wrong locations

[mental juniper]

Probs like 800-1100

[uneven stream]

@sacred quiver do you know of a way to set the price via config?

[mental juniper]

It just doesn't feel right having it free rn

[uneven stream]

Yeah I was thinking 900 so glad others feel the same way

Have it free now just in case last minute bugs were found too ruin runs cause that would not be fun haha

[sacred quiver]

You should be able to set it in LethalQuantities or through the LLL config

[uneven stream]

But yeah definitely plan on having it be that price range 🙂

Thanks Zac! Might be on today, this kitten we got needs lots of loves

[sacred quiver]

What's it's name? It's beautiful 😭

[uneven stream]

We think Lorenzo or Joey 🙂

We think he might be a Tabby Point Birman

So he may look like this when he gets older

[sacred quiver]

He's gonna be majestic 😍

[uneven stream]

Very fancy boi

Very much so wants the snuggles constantly

[sacred quiver]

Lucky😭 my cats don't snuggle😂

[civic canopy]

How would I go about turning down the dungeon scale of BM? Its cool that its such a deep place to explore but I mostly play with 2-3 people and the size and amount of scrap is a little overwhelming

[uneven stream]

There should be a way to scale it with configs, but I'm a noob at that part

@sacred quiver would know best I think since he set it up for the mod 😅

Also new trailer out for the mod made by my friend!
https://youtu.be/ANPPGNS_uNc?si=jONyoXNNRQFUSoCe

[civic canopy]

Yeah I was amazed when I typed scan and saw 6000+ scrap value lol

[sacred quiver]

you can change everything using LethalQuantities I'm pretty sure. You can also use the LLL or the Black Mesa config to change the size, I'm not sure if you can lower the scrap amount with the LLL config

[civic canopy]

That mod causes desyncing and several other issues id rather not experience lol

[sacred quiver]

LethalQuantities? I haven't heard that, a bunch of people use it for their modpacks. I personally don't because I didn't want to redo all the work for my pack😅

[winged wasp]

Oooh the trailer is awesome!

[regal valley]

LethalQuantities shouldn't cause any issues, I've used for the longest time and didn't have a single problem because of it

[civic canopy]

Ive heard many issues of interior desyncs due to changing values with it

[uneven stream]

The devs of Black Mesa might be playing the mod tonight T.T

Pinch me

[deft mulch]

Wow thats cool! Congrats, you should be proud

Any plans on future moons? I mean bioshock would be kind of a banger. Or the old doom 3. But they may have alittle too much detail to suit well in lethal

[uneven stream]

I plan on doing a Halo one and a Fallout themed one 🙂

[deft mulch]

Sweet! just in time. Halo 2 is my favorite game of all time, can't wait

[uneven stream]

I already have some vault stuff somewhat prepped, but it's gonna be a ton of work and I learned a lot of stuff from this mod already haha

[deft mulch]

Glad to hear! Is it difficult to do mods? I'm intressted but dunno where to start. I got some knowledge of c# and blender (also html, css and javascript, but that don't count lol). Any tip?

[uneven stream]

Honestly I started with only basic blender knowledge and ripping knowledge and all I learned for the interior parts were from the great tutorials from Major and AudioKnight 😅

And for my code I needed a lot of help from Zaggy to really optimize the security room cause my implementation of it was so bad and so much more laggy haha

Zaggy basically did all of the code for the camera system and I am so grateful 🙏

If you want to just do an interior there are plenty of places to start from 🙂

[deft mulch]

Alright cool! Then i know what i will be spending my time on after my thesis. Thank you very much for the information!

[deft mulch]

Just youtube? Do major and audioknight got tutorials their or did you directly contact them?

Probably going to aim for doing interior and smaller mods. But we will see 🙂

[uneven stream]

Yeah they do!

Let me find them

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLR_65a4-DJWgdQIh_pJ7J9KcxLP788uAE&si=TpZuLw0jy0RcAlr0

Here is a playlist

The audioknight one is for custom moons

The major ones are for interiors 🙂

[deft mulch]

Cool! Thanks dude 🙂

[uneven stream]

Huge props to @velvet vault and @cobalt meadow

Wouldn't have gotten into modding this game at all without those tutorials

Might make some of my own in terms of making custom doors and working with animations for the first time

Cause that was scary to dip into, but isn't so bad now that I've done a few

[deft mulch]

uffh that part seems awful to me. Had a course about vr/ar were we dipped into blender. But that part about animations 😵‍💫 😵‍💫 i dont want to see

my baymax is cute tho
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/baymax-e60481c5b4ba46ba83239f6cab2c548b

don't look into the UV:s

[north thorn]

for simple animations you can do them in Unity itself

[deft mulch]

easier that way?

[cobalt meadow]

Ye thanks i am working on interior project setup and tutorial how to do that.
but is taking a bit to get all that done while working and updating my own mod.
Also
Great job with your mod glad everyone helps out each other.

[sacred quiver]

Without your template who knows where this mod would be, it was the push needed to add all the custom scripting you see inside and outside

So thanks for that ❤️ @cobalt meadow

[uneven stream]

It's actually incredibly easy once you know what buttons to push 🙂

[deft mulch]

hahahah isn't it always?

[north thorn]

(note that I haven't personally messed with animations yet) I'd say so, since there can be issues with importing animations, and on top of that, editing them in Unity lets you keyframe properties you otherwise wouldn't be able to change

for example, enabling/disabling renderers or colliders

[deft mulch]

aah gotcha

[north thorn]

I would tend to say that doing it in Unity is better unless you're doing skeletal animation

[deft mulch]

Naah that far i will not go. But thanks for the information, probably saved me from 1000 hours of future work with that

[north thorn]

lol maybe, hopefully

[pastel magnet]

meanwhile, in an alternative universe where they were not so kind

[uneven stream]

https://tenor.com/view/meanwhile-gif-15364224298858382118

[upbeat haven]

black mesa is a free moon???

[runic pike]

I like that

[upbeat haven]

for the shear size and value of it

and difficulty

[regal valley]

#1215444909092249672 message

[upbeat haven]

a free moon????

[formal wind]

Anyone know how to fix the interiors not working? I can visit the moon itself, hear all the custom dialogue outside as I land, but inside it is only a facility. If I simulate the facility in the terminal, it shows nothing for the spawn chances of interiors.

[upbeat haven]

Ok

so

Since Im assuming Black mesa gives 2.5k~

[uneven stream]

for now

just as a failsafe in case another game breaking thing is found haha

like inverse teleporters not working right like on other interiors

[upbeat haven]

doing some math rn

[formal wind]

For reference here is what I mean. It seems it just doesn't consider interiors at all.

[upbeat haven]

Titan has 1500k on average maybe

Min 28 Max 32

Cost 700 to go there

Black mesa has 2.5k

Price Mesa at 1250

[sacred quiver]

Send a pic of your Black Mesa config

[upbeat haven]

anywhere from 950-1250

[sacred quiver]

I've been telling him between 1000-1500

[upbeat haven]

its just the right thing to do

[formal wind]

It downright does not generate one it seems

Can someone try sending me one to place in the folder to see if that works?

[sacred quiver]

Did you install using r2modman or thunderstore?

[formal wind]

Manual through thunderstore.

This seems to be the only mod that's failed to generate a config for me though

[north thorn]

as in you downloaded the zip and then installed through the settings menu in the app?

what files are in the mod folder?

[formal wind]

No, downloaded the zip and installed straight into my game through the plugins folder.

[sacred quiver]

Can you try downloading it through the thunderstore itself?

[formal wind]

That's where I got it. I just didn't use a launcher to install it, I don't trust the launcher personally.

[sacred quiver]

use r2modman

[north thorn]

if you can send a screenshot of the manually-installed files, then maybe we can help, there's a good chance something is missing there

[formal wind]

Sure. This is what was included in the .zip downloaded.

[north thorn]

hmm, then if I had to guess, something might be erroring while it's trying to load

not sure what else would cause this

[formal wind]

Rip. It loads just fine honestly, it just can't detect its own interior. Hence why I'm wondering if being sent a config to just put into my game would help it detect that.

[north thorn]

if it's not generating the config, that means the dll isn't loading properly

could you send logs from launching the game with it installed?

[formal wind]

Where would the logs be stored? My game doesn't really launch a console like it used to in v47 or v49.

[north thorn]

BepInEx/LogOutput.log iirc

if the console doesn't appear, that's probably because the BepInEx config changed

it's supposed to be on by default though, afaik

[formal wind]

Ah I might have turned it off at one point hold on

I can't seem to dm the log sadly. I'll just try to mess with a few other mods I got installed and see if something is conflicting.

I might know what is causing it.

[north thorn]

you can drag and drop the log file here

I don't think it should prevent you from sending the log as a file

[delicate rapids]

this mod probably adds the most content and is pretty insane honestly. def my favorite mod

[civic canopy]

My honest advice keep it free until its done done

Love the work so far but im not tryna grind 4 quotas to go somewhere still in development

[uneven stream]

yeah was gonna keep it free until I know for sure it has no huge bugs

and let players config it for now

[civic canopy]

keep cooking man if you go through with the things you say you are this could be one of the top mods for the game

[winged wasp]

Found a few minor clipping issues when I played

Items from the dropship clipped into the grates

And i got screenshots on the others I’ll send them in a few

had these scrap spawn overlapped

lamp spawned inside a desk

this grate clips into the floor

you can clip into un-openable doors? (visuals look weird because i had my gamma up since my flashlight died lol)

and not sure if it's intentional or not (bc i know it's in the og map), but this ladder in the test chamber isn't climbable

[uneven stream]

ah looks like I need to fix the collision 🙂

[uneven stream]

and yeah I was going to make it climbable later on 🙂

[uneven stream]

that damn lamp always spawns under the desks lmao

no other items do it that is so annoying lmao

@sacred quiver its your lamp

[winged wasp]

Ayy

[winged wasp]

pffft

[tacit vapor]

btw some clipboard from black mesa is spawning on all moons

[uneven stream]

That is so weird lol

@sacred quiver can you see if that happens with your modpack too?

context: #1212942407306313788 message

[uneven stream]

Free unintentional advertising of the Zaggy ZagCams

Looks like Zaggy Inc has been trying to get business on other star systems

[regal valley]

Mod was showcased in TheViperian's latest video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_ok4lKG1A4

[civic canopy]

I was just gonna say its only a matter of time before he gets to it

Very glad he did

[uneven stream]

https://youtu.be/XdPyQQ_4w_E?si=kDdw2Pq7s1CW3ut4

Some sneak peaks of a new type of tile that is being finalized

Didn't debut in the last update due to a big tile generation issue it had, but it's fixed now 🙂

[uneven stream]

Oh cool!

Looks like he played it without Cullfactory sadly so the sun is shining through the ceiling lmao

[jaunty marsh]

am i right to say this works on v50

[regal valley]

yes

[jaunty marsh]

awesome 👍

cant wait to use it

[uneven stream]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wPG_a9QovY

Cube posted this video of them playing with a huge group of people in VR on this mod 😄

[sacred quiver]

My group might play tonight, I'll see if we find one. We didn't last play session

[uneven stream]

Okay haha let me know of any free advertising!

cooking up some fun stuff rn >:)

[cobalt meadow]

Awesome nice

[upbeat haven]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-crawling-tired-gif-11883184

MY FRAMES

MY FRAMES!!

AAAAAAAAAAAA

if i took a printer and used it to print out each frame my gpu was supposed to render instead would be faster than the fps im getting on my monitor

[uneven stream]

suffer

jk I know it is rough for not high end PCs haha

and big mod packs lmao

I have one more thing to try to optimize it more, but after that it might just be due to the high quality of the assets

I can only recommend to use Cullfactory to get frames back lol

[upbeat haven]

not high end?

[uneven stream]

smh not a 4090

[upbeat haven]

mb

[uneven stream]

[upbeat haven]

i dont have that nasa pc

[uneven stream]

Mine runs at close to 60 on a 3060 so idk haha

[upbeat haven]

On my modpack FiF 190~ mods i got sub 60 but always above 40

[uneven stream]

definitely never gonna be over 60 - 80 fps ever due to the sheer quality of the geometry I'm afraid haha

not the elite gamer experience I know T.T

[uneven stream]

I hope the next thing I can try will help a bit

[upbeat haven]

you put too much effort into the moon for me to ignore it from my modpack

But i cant promise players performance on it

https://tenor.com/view/traewockhardt-sad-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-16591014784735052511

[uneven stream]

you can promise to NOT have performance on it

[upbeat haven]

https://tenor.com/view/brad-pitt-cry-sad-gun-aim-gif-16220733

[civic canopy]

does cull factory unrender everything that is far away including props and scrap

[uneven stream]

it unrenders rooms you can't see as well as lights and other stuff

[uneven stream]

sorry Mi6 haha

[civic canopy]

Is there any way you could turn down the render distance for BM specifically? the performance isnt god awful but it might be worth trying

[uneven stream]

Next interior I do will likely be Fallout themed and I learned so much from this

[civic canopy]

It wasnt ideal in VR, but it was certainly manageable

[uneven stream]

so it will be much more optimized

[civic canopy]

way more manageable than Rosie's sector-0

[upbeat haven]

im not gonna give up hope

Ok

https://tenor.com/view/parasyte-lock-in-locked-in-serious-meme-gif-13189278796605253304

[uneven stream]

idk if it is possible to set it for interiors specifically, but Cullfactory should do a really good job

hoping my next optimzation pass will help tho

[civic canopy]

like I said its not the end of the world its playable

[upbeat haven]

Plastered, since the interior and the moon I will only have together

what is the current scale of the interior

and is it possible to scale it down while keeping the vital and unique tiles generated

[uneven stream]

oh for sure

I think @sacred quiver and @north thorn got it dialed down to a good size already too

and some really unique rooms have a mid range weight so they might only show up on some playthroughs

but there are now over 110+ room tiles so it should be completely unique each time 🙂

[upbeat haven]

also

[uneven stream]

scaling it up or down shouldn't affect that so you gucci

[upbeat haven]

Would you recommend using your config or LLL's

[uneven stream]

Zaggy says Map Tile size in our config

[winged wasp]

you have something terribly wrong

lmfao

[upbeat haven]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-joker-gun-long-gif-17532069

[north thorn]

use map tile size unless you need to limit the size for some reason

[winged wasp]

i have a 3070 and run it decently

[north thorn]

if your issue is with performance, it's not likely to make much of a difference if you're running CullFactory 1.0.0+

[winged wasp]

wait is your resolution upscaled

[north thorn]

at least not by adjusting it only slightly

[winged wasp]

i run the ultrawide equivalent of native

so that could be why

[upbeat haven]

Hm

I have been thinking for a bit on using LCUltrawide to scale back down to vanilla values

[winged wasp]

i know i took some screenshots when i played it last lemme see them

bc i also have 32gb ram

so your perforrmance should be equal or greater assuming we have similar cpus

[upbeat haven]

How heavy is your modpack tho

[winged wasp]

okay nvm the fps isn't visible in them i dont think

140-160 mods

[molten dew]

hey guys. is there a config file? cant find it after starting the game

[winged wasp]

(i've been updating it so i don't remember the exact amount from when i last tested it)

[upbeat haven]

Outside of the moon runs at 60

[winged wasp]

i'll hop on now and see

[upbeat haven]

inside from 40-50

[winged wasp]

outside 57, 30% gpu usace

[uneven stream]

yeah I get mostly 55 fps outside and inside usually but i just have a 3060

[winged wasp]

inside avg of 56 fps at 34% gpu usage?

it varies a lot

so yeah similar performance inside and outside

inside varies more though

depends on the rooms and such

tends to settle around 53/54, 56/57, and 59

[molten dew]

does anyone know?

[winged wasp]

i also have like

ten million chrome tabs open rn though

[winged wasp]

the moon is handled in LLL

[molten dew]

okay i will try to get the config when joining a session. maybe starting the game is not enough.

edit: LLL was somehow disabled from a past test of mine. that was the issue ig

[winged wasp]

make sure you leave the config editor in r2

like go to a diff section and go back in

it won't update to show new configs otherwise

[molten dew]

can you just use something like "all" to have a chance for it to appear on all moons?

[sacred quiver]

Yes you can put "all", we'll do an update to better support LethalConfig. It shows you can do it in r2 or thunderstore

[molten dew]

i see. thanks

[tribal bone]

Has it been reported yet that masked and possibly other monsters cannot open vents?

I saw it happen with the masked enemy and not any other, kinda just stood there in the vent until i opened it and he walked out

[uneven stream]

Yeah it's happened to me too the other day and I've noticed they can open them sometimes but not all the time and other times it takes then AGES to open them lol

Definitely looking at it for the next update 🙂

[upbeat haven]

Ok

Holy shit

Im doing some mod culling

I got like 70-100 fps on the moon now

Time to investigate what the real heavy hitters are

[north thorn]

I'd be curious to see which ones you determine to be problematic, it's possible they have issues with specific things in the interior if others are less affected

[uneven stream]

That sounds more like it from a 4070 😎

[molten dew]

interiorguaranteed does not spawn the interior
i didnt make the changes in lethalconfig but in r2 thunderstore mod manager. when i started the game and began a new run the interior didnt spawn

[regal valley]

change all to list and uncheck InteriorGuaranteed

[molten dew]

But when its on list it will only appear on the black Mesa moon. Generally i want it to appear everytime on every moon. For test purposes for now

[regal valley]

Well I know for a fact that InteriorGuaranteed is a broken setting

[molten dew]

Otherwise outside of my tests it should have the configured chance on every moon

[molten dew]

Okay so i will have to enter a moon i will test it on..

With list mode

[undone fulcrum]

is it only broken on black mesa? scp dungeon works for me

[regal valley]

Didnt work with a lot of interiors for me

And Ive also been told that that option was obselete

[old fiber]

crab did ever do the thing to make everything static, thats supposed to to help with performance

[uneven stream]

I did haha, which took a while, but didn't seem to help too much

[civic canopy]

I actually hopped on again last night and performance wasnt as bad as before 1.0 so you definitely did something

Its pretty scary being lost miles into a facility like that in VR

[uneven stream]

I spent about 30 hours total so far in steps to optimize it so I am glad it paid off somewhat lmao

[uneven stream]

I am such a scaredy cat that I have to test without monsters enabled haha, I can't imagine it in VR

[civic canopy]

Obviously with a place as big and as detailed as this at a certain point theres no more you can do

[civic canopy]

Just knowing how far in you are is scarier than the monsters tbh

We went so deep in the facility we knew we werent making it out without a miracle

[uneven stream]

Yeah the next one I do I will use what I have learned from this project to make it much more optimized haha

[uneven stream]

Did you get any vids of it? 😄

Love watching people have fun with the mod haha

[civic canopy]

Nah my clipping was off unfortunately

I had a 1 in a million escape I wish I got

3 thumpers on my ass and snare flea got me right by the entrance and by some miracle I made it outside on 1 hp

[civic canopy]

Ill certainly get some stuff for you in the future

[uneven stream]

That would be so fun! 😄

[upbeat haven]

I blacked the fuck out

But Im back

https://tenor.com/view/pillar-men-awaken-my-masters-awaken-jojos-bizarre-adventure-jjba-gif-19344086

Ok

it seems

with 109 of my mods out of 194 enabled

performance is quite gucci

The mods I want to point my finger at the most

are

[civic canopy]

It makes sense that with nearly 200 mods you have lag lol

[upbeat haven]

https://tenor.com/view/eat-cute-crab-strawberry-gif-14062484

i will never compromise

my greed is insatiable

But ironically my finger wants to point a these mods to see if they are the ones casuing performance hits

[runic pike]

Disabled Locker, thats crazy

[civic canopy]

Honestly mirage, celestial tint, and desats moons have never caused frame drops for me

[civic canopy]

I can understand a good few of these, but a lot of these should not be impacting your performance

[upbeat haven]

||flip i swear on jesus ironically somehow my finger always lands on you||

[upbeat haven]

i mean of course

I personally dont believe half of these will have any impact

but ive also learned

random shit causes random shit

[civic canopy]

in conjunction with other mods for sure

[runic pike]

The Locker though?

[civic canopy]

but I use a good few of those and they dont touch my frames

[upbeat haven]

it was just disabled already

[runic pike]

Oh

My bad

also Kevin Hart

[upbeat haven]

I disabled every mod in my modpack

[runic pike]

https://tenor.com/view/kevin-hart-really-what-you-say-sideeye-wtf-gif-4842136059944732480

[upbeat haven]

And Im re enabling them one by one

[runic pike]

at least these issues aren't as bad as minecraft mods

[runic pike]

bro when you get that crash message

you're fucked

[civic canopy]

minecraft mods suck

[upbeat haven]

ticking entity vs your 16gb server

[runic pike]

dude you got no idea what mods I yse

[upbeat haven]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-satoru-gif-949319236308169219

[runic pike]

I have like

a ton of Illager mods

I use them for like Ultra Modded Raid videos

[upbeat haven]

also gonna point my finger at darmuh cuz i love him

[runic pike]

all on 1.19.2

[upbeat haven]

alright

which group of mods should i start testing first

[runic pike]

Locker

[upbeat haven]

Locker and Mrov it is

[runic pike]

Hell yeah

could we possibly get a Medal clip too?

I just like seeing modded monster clips a lot

especially The Fiend and The Locker

[upbeat haven]

just for u pookie bear

[runic pike]

Holy fucking fuck

[runic pike]

I regret this

[runic pike]

OH MY GOD

I take it back

[upbeat haven]

I do a lot of clipping

and not a lot of cleaning

[past valve]

same

[runic pike]

im not good at cleaning either my guy

[upbeat haven]

tested with locker and all of mrov's 100% stable mods

perfromance never dropped 60

[runic pike]

Yippee

you know what I like to do with mods like this

if theres ever a moon + interior mod I always make it so the mod's corresponding interior is 100% spawn chance with the moon from the mod the interior is from

[upbeat haven]

now lets point fingers at zaggy

light 200 fps on the ship

nothin special

[runic pike]

why are the open button, close button and suits way closer than they should be

[upbeat haven]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-gif-11339234860235694668

[runic pike]

Yippee

[upbeat haven]

60-90 peak fps outside

[runic pike]

thats really good

[upbeat haven]

solid 67-90 peak fps inside

only once hit like 57

[winged wasp]

I’d love to see your list of fps killers once you’re done testing lol

[uneven stream]

glad to know what is possible with a 4070!

[upbeat haven]

enabling taffyko's mods + flip mods

hit some 50s

but mainly still above 60

performance is

worse

[old fiber]

OH DAMN

[upbeat haven]

GI?

is GI killing my performance 🤯

[regal valley]

What makes you say that?

[upbeat haven]

i didnt say that

i asked that

and the answer was

no

[regal valley]

Sounded like it was a revelation with that emoji lol

[upbeat haven]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-gif-24341837

I CANT FIGURE IT OUT

i figured it out...

https://tenor.com/view/cat-angry-cat-cat-insane-insane-cat-mental-gif-26255478

I DIDNT FIGURE IT OUT

[upbeat haven]

FUCK IT

WE START OVER!!!!!!!

DISABLING ALL THE MODS

BOOTING UP WITH ONLY BLACK MESA

[civic canopy]

Youre on a journey that has no end my friend

the map is just a little laggy

[uneven stream]

yeah except he was previously getting less than 60 frames with his 4070 which is waaaaay lower than he should be getting

[upbeat haven]

https://tenor.com/view/the-flash-speedforce-ezra-miller-time-travel-fast-gif-6976601753097067405

[uneven stream]

he disabled some of his mods and got 90ish hahaha

he is on the hunt now

for the freeman

[upbeat haven]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-memey-aim-gif-14691352

you

[civic canopy]

oh shit??

bruh how

[uneven stream]

his mods were slowing him down hahaha

[civic canopy]

I thought you were just trying to squeeze as much as you could out of LC

I didnt realize you plagued your game with an illness lmaoo

[uneven stream]

why he is trying to sniff out which one is decimating his frames hahaha

cause yeah it is not a moon for low end PCs, but if you have a 40 series you should be way over 60 fps 😅

even on my 3060 12Gb I get nearly constant 60

[upbeat haven]

Black Mesa - Standalone

Outside: 80 Average
Inside: 90 Average

[uneven stream]

yeah something is tanking your frames but I wonder what mod it is

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-smash-nom-nom-hungry-gif-13378667

your frames

[upbeat haven]

Black Mesa + Performance Mods (AsyncLoggers + AssetBundles + FastStartup + LCMaxSoundsFix + LightsOut)

Outside: 90 average
Inside: 80 average

GOD

FUCK

YEA

[civic canopy]

Did you make a breakthrough

[upbeat haven]

nope

but im about to

[civic canopy]

Is there any mod that lets you instantly load into a moon

Would be nice for debugging

[upbeat haven]

Black Mesa + Performance Mods + Decor (Suits, Cosmetics, Posters, Paintings)

Outside: 70 average
Inside: 60-70 (dips into 50s)

[winged wasp]

Just did a test of my modpack with friends (it went nightmarish so thank god I waited to push it)

encountered a few issues though

The biggest was this weird generation

[upbeat haven]

thats....

normal

[winged wasp]

the two grates back to back with no vent?

[upbeat haven]

from a generation standpoint thats how it would probably have to work yea

the vents are bascially generated with the tile you are in

and if 2 tiles connect with no middle tile of a "vent system" you get 2 grates from both sides

[sacred quiver]

You are exactly correct @upbeat haven

[upbeat haven]

YES

LETS GOOOOO

[sacred quiver]

Technically vent rooms(rooms with grates) could be made to not generate next to one another but that might lead to some generation issues so for now this is how it works

Sometimes there's a vent system sometimes there isn't

[upbeat haven]

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I cant

I cant get Black Mesa above 60

with all my mods

[sacred quiver]

Do you have LethalResonance?

[upbeat haven]

That shit was fake news

[sacred quiver]

That was killing performance in Source's pack

[upbeat haven]

idk what the hell Source was tweakin on

[sacred quiver]

Nah did it on my pc too

[upbeat haven]

wth

[sacred quiver]

I found the issue LOL

[civic canopy]

Resonance is fine

[upbeat haven]

its not resonance

[sacred quiver]

Not in Source's pack it isn't

Makes you lose like 20-30 fps

[upbeat haven]

its because that man does not read

was it LR or LRM

[sacred quiver]

We disabled both and it fixed the issue

[upbeat haven]

trick question

[sacred quiver]

And this fps loss was everywhere not just Black Mesa

[upbeat haven]

Its because LRM has not been updated to soundapi

I use the fork of LRM and everything works fine

[sacred quiver]

I don't know what your issue is then🤷‍♂️

The difference in performance in my pack vs just black mesa itself is tiny

Something with your mods is slowing you down😅

[upbeat haven]

duh

i mean

after a certain point, no matter what combination of mods i use

it dips beyond recovery

[sacred quiver]

How many mods we talking? lol

[upbeat haven]

inconsistent

[sacred quiver]

My pack has 145 mods and only looses like 5-10 fps max

vs just running Black Mesa and it's dependencies

[upbeat haven]

i have 190 and i go from 100 fps to about 50

[sacred quiver]

Is this only on black mesa? Like if you disable enough to get 100 fps on Black Mesa, what's your fps like on a vanilla moon?

Is it also 2x?

[upbeat haven]

vanilla moons have almost no dip

its just black mesa

[sacred quiver]

I wonder if something causes an incompatibility, because on source's pack my fps wasn't that much lower once we removed LR and LRM

and he has over 250 mods

something is wrong in your pack brother

[upbeat haven]

60/193 mods enabled

I have mostly suits, enemies, LGU, and other moons active

[sacred quiver]

Source's also does

I'm really not sure what it is🙃

[tacit vapor]

Yeah i got 180 mods and almost no performance loss. But I also dont use LR, takes too long to load and i do get noticeable fps drops

[sacred quiver]

You shouldn't be replying to me, you hearing this @upbeat haven ?

[upbeat haven]

my mods with LR

fps without LR

wild

[queen bay]

can you pls tell me if you find what incompatibility is causing the fps drops? Black Mesa is unplayable for me rn

[upbeat haven]

I think this is like trying to find a cure for cancer

@uneven stream you’ve given me fps cancer look at what you’ve done

[uneven stream]

I want to fix that, but it will require custom DunGen code sadly so it'll be some time

[uneven stream]

No incompatiblities per se but any mod that is already unoptimized will be even more prevalent

Meaning you might not notice those poorly performing mods on vanilla moons but since Black Mesa is so high detailed you'll notice that waaaay more

[upbeat haven]

hold this for me

[upbeat haven]

nvm

i give up

https://tenor.com/view/bruno-gif-20362947

this world is a cruel one

[uneven stream]

Sweet Lord lmao

[uneven stream]

trying to get my project setup for v50 assets

while it works for v50 so far, my Unity Editor does not have any v50 assets in it so once I do that I can add the Butler and Tulip Snakes to the mod properly

[pure forum]

is the performance on this mod still kind of bad?

a friend of mine saw the description and was wondering why u would use assets from the remake instead of the original

[opal night]

this has got to be by far the best lc interior mod

kudos

[north thorn]

it would be helpful to know what version you're referencing when you say "still"

(there were performance improvements made for the 1.0.0 release, iirc, and if you played before that, you may have a bit of an improvement in framerate on newer versions)

[random hatch]

quick question what other than List can I use? I tried "All" it seems to freeze game launch

[sacred quiver]

all should work

Well I just tested it, and I don't freeze but all seems to not work. I'll look into it. in the meantime you should be able to use the LLL config to set weights using vanilla and custom

[uneven stream]

The way the original level geometry gets extracted makes it all one singular piece instead of being comprised of individual pieces which would make creating tiles out of nice sections like 20x harder than it already was so I went with the remake instead

[upbeat haven]

so like

I completed deleted all my lc files and did a fresh reinstall

[uneven stream]

The project already took like 400-500 hours so if I had done it with the OG level geo it would have been way way longer and be probably less good overall

[uneven stream]

Oh the hunt is still on eh??

[upbeat haven]

im "done" hunting

but the hunt

isnt done with me

[uneven stream]

💀

[random hatch]

oh by freeze i meant when I first start up the game it gets stuck on loading black mesa in console.

[upbeat haven]

thank you @uneven stream

you've answered one of my questions

Ive always wondered what these were

[pure forum]

oh ok

[upbeat haven]

My brain now has concluded these are baboon hawk nests

[sacred quiver]

It takes awhile to load

[sacred quiver]

They are, I'm trying to find a way to guarantee their spawns aren't in a bad spot

[uneven stream]

Oh yeah I mean the interior has over 100+ tiles to create a dungeon with and is the biggest interior mod so far so it's a bit of a chonker haha

Takes a bit for Lethal to load all those room tiles

[nova stag]

could we have the interior as a seperate mod from the moons

My pack doesnt need more moons to load

[sacred quiver]

The interior is all the loading time, not the moon

[nova stag]

still would prefer it seperate

but good to know

[sacred quiver]

It's a lot more work for him vs you just switching a setting in the LLL config. The interior and the moon tie into each other in more ways than just being bundled together

[nova stag]

Oh, in what way are they tied

besides for setting

[sacred quiver]

All the scripts and such for both are all bundled together

It would be a ton of work to separate it all out

[nova stag]

ok yeah I understand

[sacred quiver]

Not worth it in the slightest in my opinion

Id rather dev time be taken up by adding more features

[nova stag]

didnt realize how linked they were, now I understand

[rose blaze]

Its been a bit since I've been to Black Mesa but still gonna put my personal experience:

It was really good but I do wish that doors that cant be opened were visually distinct so I dont waste time going up to them trying to open them.

And 2) Baboon Hawks on this map are absolute hell xD

They make traversing the outside hell.

[upbeat haven]

i learned

green light on door

means