How to Make a Custom Moon in Lethal Company | Lethal Level Loader

[sour pier]

trust me I got to your point once

where I couldnt evn get past the most simple step of downloading the patcher

but im glad i pushed thu

[gusty kite]

okay

[gritty slate]

I wanted to thank Pedro and AV because their discussions allowed me to set up the project. last night I stayed up until 4am but I missed the update so it didn't work. But now I can create my own moon: "Loon". I will keep you informed! 👍

[sour pier]

bet

plz do

[gritty slate]

I do but I have a lot of issu

[gritty slate]

I'm rly motivated and first time I try to land on "Loon", it worked !

So I move on and decide to put a hill on the terrain, I also moved the ships, lootship etc.. to fit to top on the hill. I build again and put the folder in my profile plugins. And now it's broken ! I can't see my moon I tried to delete the lethalbundle content and build again but nothing ... I'm rly tired I watched the tuto 10 times ! (My moon is set up for snow environement)   

There is a manipulation that I missed to 'update' your assetbundle/mod ? Did I touch something I shouldn't ? Did I have to watch the vod again ?

🇭 🇪 🇱 🇵 😭 🏳️

[gritty slate]

I don't understand why it doesn't work, of course I read the comments ..

[lavish pelican]

you moved

the ship?

okay

https://youtu.be/dnZG5464ZcE?si=SjZ3rCWdDJ8EqLqt&t=852

can you do me a quick favor and watch this again real quick?

i timestamped it to make it easier to figure out what you did wrong
when you think you found it just ping me to say

[crystal kraken]

Ship stays!

[lavish pelican]

or you can just

[crystal kraken]

You can terraform around it

[lavish pelican]

tell them the

answer

and not let them figure it out for themself that works too

[crystal kraken]

right

Making a moon isnt as easy as one might think at first glance

[sleek saddle]

Tldr you can’t move the ship

[crystal kraken]

Btw im still having the same issue @grave lodge 🤔dont know if you could look into it 😅 cant seem to figure out how to spawn in a reskinned model for an enemy

[crystal kraken]

I mean he could in theory 🤔

[grave lodge]

wouldnt be too difficult I dont think

Its a bit hard to explain

[crystal kraken]

It’d just need a ton of unnessecary work lol

[grave lodge]

give me a second, I need to finish this and then I can help

[crystal kraken]

You have all the time you need baby

Im headin to sleep 😅

[gritty slate]

😂

[sleek saddle]

no

[crystal kraken]

I tried to just add the new prefab to the og script but that didnt do the magic

[crystal kraken]

Oh you cant work around it? Nvm then

[sleek saddle]

with some magic on my end and a rewrite to the project patcher yes

Rn no

[crystal kraken]

Not needed tbh

[lavish pelican]

okay bruh 😭

[crystal kraken]

Tho i’d be lying if id say custom landing wasnt crossing my mind lol

I mean the animation

[gritty slate]

I want to cry, so I have to do it again.. 😂 I will show you my moon soon ty for the help

[sleek saddle]

Animations in the project patcher are corrupted

Keyframe 0 gets lost

[crystal kraken]

Just load in the ship prefab again

[sleek saddle]

It’s fine for most animations but gamebreaking for ship animations

[crystal kraken]

Dont need to redo all of it

[gritty slate]

how ?

oh !

[crystal kraken]

Yeah i also tried to customize the ship like the dropship ||didnt work||

[gritty slate]

I get it from assurance scene

[crystal kraken]

Yas

Btw Batby do you know what are the anomalies on experiment?

[sleek saddle]

Unused

[crystal kraken]

Alrighty

[gritty slate]

Ok I have one other issue

I do the tuto again.. still No BundleFound ...

[gusty kite]

if main entrance is down the hill please dont add flooded weather :)

unless its static and halfway tall of main to atleast lower player speed

[gritty slate]

Ok, I'll try later and if this isn't working .. I'm going to keep going, I'm going to keep trying, I'm going to try again and again and again and again AND YOU WILL BE WITNESS TO MY VICTORY AHAAHAAAHAAAH

[sour pier]

as long as you follow star lancers tutrioul. You should be fine

its an amazing video

i forat watched it fully without actually doing it, the 2nd time i watched it, then i started to follow

[crystal kraken]

yeah but im talkin about stuff outside of the tutorial

[sour pier]

lots of unity tutriouls online to help

and people to ask

but yea it still is hard

but making a simple moon is very easy, but trying to make a moon like the big 3, it very hard

[gritty slate]

I have started from scratch 4 times already, each time my project seemed corrupted by my clumsy handling, my clicks seem to curse my project as it progresses, my mental health slowly declines and my self-confidence with it.

[crystal kraken]

im super clueless what the big 3 is lol

all i know it has to do something with naruto - bleach - one piece

[lavish pelican]

I’m assuming it’s like

People

Likely either Wesley, Audioknight, sfDesat, Tolian, Rosie, etc.

[crystal kraken]

i might need to attend math class more

been counting eversince and i cant figure out how is that 3

[lavish pelican]

Just sayin it’s probably 3 of those people i mentioned

That the dude’s talking about

[crystal kraken]

yeah im just foolin around

[gritty slate]

I'm stuck at 25:30 bc my folder path doesn't look like this. For me Assets/LethalCompany/Tools is empty and Plugins is in lc folder. Did I install bepinex wrong and should I re-dl it? Or this is normal bc of update ? Pls help I'm very motivated !

[empty anvil]

If you are using the new patcher, then put mmhook/etc into mods. Tools is more meant for non-mod tools, of which I forgot to write a note about.

[gritty slate]

Thanks, so I put nmhook in mods and nothing more ? No plugins folder in lethalcompany/plugins ?

[empty anvil]

If it's a plugin that requires loading via bepinex, put in mods. It it doesn't, put in tools.

[gritty slate]

Thank you very much for your help, as a beginner it means a lot to me

[gritty slate]

So Assets/LethalCompany/Mods/LethalBundle is a correct path for build a bundle !?

[grave lodge]

I have absolutely no clue what happened. These just started showing up out of nowhere

nvm fixed it

that was simple

[outer pendant]

Don't be a stack overflow user, how'd you fix it? xD

[grave lodge]

It was a fully my fault thing

Unity Asset scripts downloaded which conflicted with those scripts

Just deleted them since I dont use those

[gritty slate]

4 days I've been trying to create a moon on lethal, 5 times I've started from scratch, 15 times I've watched the tutorial and it's too much! I'm abandoning this side quest, it must be at least lv.20 while I'm barely lv.7.. Thank you very much for your wonderful work ! And remember I didn't give up, I just prioritize other victories ahahah

[hearty tree]

Hello, I put my .lethalbundle and .lethalbundle.manifest into my plugins folder, but when I launch the game, it gives me the error
[Info :LethalLevelLoader] No ExtendedMod Found In Bundle: labyrinthmod.lethalbundle. Forcefully Loading ExtendedContent!
[Error :LethalLevelLoader] Could Not Find Scene File For ExtendedLevel: LabyrinthLevel, Unregistering Early.
Selectable Scene Name Is: LabyrinthMoonScene. Scenes Found In Bundles Are:

[valid umbra]

Did you not use extendedmod?

[hearty tree]

i dont know? i just followed the tutorial

[valid umbra]

Hmm I'll try making an updated version of the tutorial soon if @outer pendant doesn't

[hearty tree]

i can try sending a screenshot of the level folder if that would help

[valid umbra]

Its a bit complicated, but the tutorial uses LLL right? #1238598452137562223 I have an LLL tutorial in there for items but you could try and make sense of what im doing and do it for levels

[outer pendant]

The ExtendedMod thing isn't an error, it's just letting you know that you don't have one. LLL creates a dummy EM in that event.
The actual error means that the scene name you're using in your SelectableLevel doesn't match up exactly with the actual name of the scene

or

you're not exporting a bundle of your scenes

[hearty tree]

it doesnt show up in the terminal

[outer pendant]

It's not showing up bc it's not loading bc something is set up incorrectly. Doublecheck your scene name and your ExtendedLevel asset

[outer pendant]

Other than nomnom's patcher, the rest of the vid should still get a moon up and running with no real changes. I'll prolly put out a short update vid soon just to smooth things out

[hearty tree]

I checked the name and its correct and here is the ExtendedLevel since i cant tell if somethings wrong

[outer pendant]

show me your SelectableLevel

[valid umbra]

I remember batby saying he'll eventually start requiring an extended mod so if possible I'd include that

[outer pendant]

Yea I'll run through tags and stuff

[valid umbra]

Pog

[hearty tree]

i copied either artifice or titan Selectablelevel

[outer pendant]

Disable LockedForDemo, and you're exporting two bundles correct? One with just your scenes marked, and the other with the LLL assets?

[hearty tree]

i think i forgot the actual mod and i just exported the scene so im gonna try and export both

It Worked Thanks

[outer pendant]

Glad to hear it :3

[idle raven]

sorry if this is a dumb and/or already asked question, but how can I move where the ship lands? I tried moving the PlayerShipNavmesh but that didn't seem to work

[ancient meadow]

move the entire map

[idle raven]

I was worried that would be the case lol thanks

[hard monolith]

Been having a really confusing problem lately. For some inexplicable reason the dungeon on my custom moon doesn't generate. I found the problem is that RoundManager.dungeonGenerator isn't being set to the dungeonGenerator script in my scene, but I'm not sure why.

It wasn't always like this, it was working fine before today, and I never touched this script except to try and fix this problem

[leaden shell]

why does my ropes in diffrent orientation when playing?

[gritty slate]

Hello, my fog is stopping prematurely. I enlarged the occlusionAreas, the volume of the fog but nothing changed. Is it hard coded in the game? ty for your help

[outer pendant]

Foggy weather bounds are hard-coded

[grave lodge]

Whats a good way to disable particles per person when inside the facility?

[valid umbra]

foreach (PlayerControllerB player in StartOfRound.Instance.AllPlayerScripts) {
    if (player.IsInside) {
        // turn off particles
    }
}

Wrote it on phone so potentially might have some syntax errors

[sleek saddle]

lll has events in your level and dungeon for when players enter and exit the dungeon

[valid umbra]

Oh even better ye

[grave lodge]

got it

[grave lodge]

I thought lethaltoolbox had something that did that but when trying it, it doesnt seem to work

[grave lodge]

{
    [SerializeField] public ParticleSystem[] particleSystem;

    // Update is called once per frame
    void Update()
    {
        foreach (PlayerControllerB player in StartOfRound.Instance.allPlayerScripts)
        {
            if (player.isInsideFactory)
            {
                foreach (ParticleSystem particleSystem in particleSystem)
                {
                    particleSystem.Stop();
                }
            }
            else
            {
                foreach (ParticleSystem particleSystem in particleSystem)
                {
                    particleSystem.Stop();
                }
            }
        }
    }
}```

Would this work?

[valid umbra]

I would do particleSystem.gameObject.SetActive(false);

And then you'd add an "else" that turns them on again

[grave lodge]

got it

Is isInsideFactory also set to true when the player goes into a reverb trigger which has Set Inside Atmosphere to true?

[valid umbra]

IsInsideFactory is a boolean the game turns on when you're inside the interior

It's probably some sort of reverb trigger

I dont know the actual ingame code for what calls it

[grave lodge]

ill look

[valid umbra]

Whether it's entrance teleport or whatever

[grave lodge]

alright, it seems like its a different thing, ig ill add some more stuff that checks for that

[royal void]

you said you wanted to disable the particles per player right? what you wrote there seems like it would disable all particles if even one player (local or non local) entered the interior

[grave lodge]

hm?

Wouldnt it just disable all particles in the SerializeField, and would it disable the particles globally for every player?

It works for me in single player but I cant really reliably test multiplayer so idk

[royal void]

yes and yes

[grave lodge]

welp

[royal void]

all the particles in the field would be disabled if any player entered, or with an else statement, only the last player would influence it

do you want the particles to be associated to players?

as in one to one?

[grave lodge]

Yeah, these particles are "weather" particles

the particle containers have MatchLocalPlayerPosition

So I just need to do that but instead of matching the player position, I need it to disable them when the local player is at certain location, eg. Inside factory

[royal void]

and MatchLocalPlayerPosition is from the toolbox I assume

[grave lodge]

Thats vanilla

[royal void]

oh

[grave lodge]

The Sun uses it

[royal void]

I've never seen that lol I see

[grave lodge]

Im just using it for something else

[royal void]

interesting

well, if you're making a SerializeField I assume that you can attach your components in the editor, so you could pretty much just remake that component with just a little extra functionality to disable the particle if the player is in the interior

and replace the MatchLocalPlayerPosition with that

with that change, you have each particle associated with a player in your code

[grave lodge]

Got it

It seems that MatchLocalPlayerPosition just uses GameNetworkManager.Instance.localPlayerController to do its stuff. Would that work or would the functionality be different?

[royal void]

oh wait, I brain farted reading that class name, it's only interacting with the local player

[grave lodge]

Yeah

[royal void]

well.. that complicates it a bit

you'll need a prefab for your particles and you'll have to instantiate and associate them based on the number of player scripts in StartOfRound.Instance.playerScripts or whatever it's called

[grave lodge]

But yeah it essentially takes the GameNetworkManager.Instance.localPlayerController's position transform and applies it to the base obj's position

[royal void]

right

so as it is, if you have multiple of the particles, they'll all be attached to the local client's player, regardless of the number of other players

or particle emitters I suppose

[grave lodge]

yeah

that stuff works fine as it is

[royal void]

oh, snow? is this just falling snow particles?

[grave lodge]

Yeah basically

[royal void]

maybe you would only want one emitter on the local player then

[grave lodge]

Or rain in Eve's case

[royal void]

right?

[grave lodge]

hm?

[royal void]

well, the local client can generally only see the particles around its player or the spectated player

so I assume you wouldn't really need to have multiple emitters

[grave lodge]

yeah

[royal void]

only downside is that OpenBodyCams won't have your particles

[grave lodge]

Only the client can see their own snow

[grave lodge]

🤷‍♀️ I'll fix that in the future

I just want something to work atm xD

[royal void]

yeah I won't say you have to support that lol

I'm not even sure how that would work

[grave lodge]

xD np

[royal void]

but yeah, in light of that, your old design seems like it would be fine if you make it only store one particle emitter, you can just make it refer to the same player that the MatchLocalPlayerPosition script does

(does MatchLocalPlayerPosition check the spectated player?)

[grave lodge]

it only checks if the GameNetworkManager's Instance.localPlayerController / Instance is null, if it isnt it does its stuff

[royal void]

hum

that's an interesting choice

[grave lodge]

yeah, its like 12 lines of code in total

[royal void]

that means that your snow particles would stop after the local player dies (or fall above a position that is out of bounds where the despawned players go)

[grave lodge]

got it

[royal void]

you could make your own component to take the spectated player into account though

[grave lodge]

how much more complicated would that be?

[royal void]

it's only like 30 more characters of code max

lemme see if I have an example in OpenBodyCams, I don't have decomp here atm

[grave lodge]

got it

[royal void]

https://github.com/Zaggy1024/LC_OpenBodyCams/blob/edd1e9f8e9b13ada0cf6fd6193e0dec0587c580e/OpenBodyCams/BodyCamComponent.cs#L793-L797

maybe a little more than 30, I think I had issues with the scene unloading causing it to throw an exception here

[grave lodge]

Ah

[sour pier]

actually make it big 5

[crystal kraken]

make it big 6 then

[sour pier]

whos the sixth

[grand prawn]

so i followed the tutorial and im floating from something

its just a empty map

the box colliders have is trigger checked

[crystal kraken]

Generic

[sour pier]

oh yea his moons are fire too

i gotta get back into moon making, prob gonna scrap my old ones cause they werent very good, gonna finish working on ombra

[valid umbra]

One day he'll release the update

[grand prawn]

i fixed it, it was a terrain collision issue which i fixed

[sharp shuttle]

Hey so I tried making a moon, followed the tutorial, but when landing, I get stuck on the random seed pop up and nothing more happens, any pointers please ?

[grave lodge]

Couple reasons this could be happening, logs?

[gritty slate]

-> check that the name of your scene is STRICTLY the same as in your selectable object, in the Scene name field
->Follow the tutorial carefully
-> Be careful with the different GameObjects, make them your own. The first time I moved the ship and I had your problem
->Check where you place your lethalbundle files, that you place the correct ones and if they are loaded correctly (on the terminal)
Keep us informed

[cinder wasp]

how do you add the snowy moon blizzards to your own moon?

[idle raven]

How can I make enemies have collision with meshes on my moon? The meshes have mesh colliders and player collision, but enemies can run through them.

[hard monolith]

those meshes should be parented by the environment gameobject, and you need to bake the navmesh on environment

but they shouldn't let enemies through them still, are the colliders set as triggers? edit: no that would work, I don't think enemies have collision with anything really

[idle raven]

D'oh. I've been baking the navmesh for the terrain, but forgetting to do it to the environment. Thanks for the help.

[hard monolith]

yeah np

[idle raven]

yeah that was 100% the issue lol

[sleek saddle]

wait huh

do you have two navmeshsurfaces

[idle raven]

Yeah, for some reason I didn't put my terrain under environment and just had a nav mesh surface on the terrain

[sleek saddle]

the settings zeekers uses has it only bake children of the navmeshsurface parent

youll want to only use 1

as the game re-bakes at runtime and will only do that for the first one it finds

[idle raven]

I see

Thanks for letting me know, I'm not familiar with Unity and I'm learning as I go

[sleek saddle]

no worries

[crystal kraken]

any idea how i could make sure the sun is behind the mountain?

i know it follows the player

but when its setting down it just gets infront of the mountain

[cinder wasp]

you gotta edit the sun animator to move it farther

[grave lodge]

You could make a physically based sky instead of using the obj

Thats what i did

I cant help exactly with that but i think there is some stuff in this thread https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1212150109375037511

[crystal kraken]

Got it working :3

And more :p

[gritty slate]

Hi guys, my moon has a big crater and I would like to kill the player who falls inside, is there a gameobject that does this? water would not be coherent and quick sand isn't working on my scene for no reason

[hard monolith]

you probably need a trigger + script for that. I don't know if there's one that already exists in the game for a killbox but it's not a difficult piece of code

using UnityEngine;
using GameNetcodeStuff;

public class KillBox : MonoBehaviour
{
    private void OnTriggerEnter(Collider other)
    {
        if (other.tag == "Player")
        {
            PlayerControllerB component = other.GetComponent<PlayerControllerB>();
            component.KillPlayer(Vector3.zero, spawnBody: true);
        }
    }
}

The part where it gets involved is that you need to compile this into its own assembly first, rather than just making it a script, so you need visual studio or at least the build tools installed.

Actually there is a better solution

Open the prefab CatwalkTile2x1 and copy the interact trigger component from the killtrigger object

[balmy thistle]

Hi there!
Is this a good(appropriate) place where to ask questions about "my first map's not working" - or there's a better place? ^^
(I watched the video, published the bundles but I'm getting an error)

AFAI understand, a "map mod" consists in 2 assetbundles.
I followed the tut about configuring the Scrip/objs but I believe something's missing?

the "no ExtendedMod found line".
I believe it causes a chain reaction that makes the player initialization to fail when starting a game:

[hard monolith]

the line about finding an extended mod you can ignore, that's not the problem.

if you followed the video you aren't using an extendedmod

[balmy thistle]

I'm stuck in a chain of nullrefs tho. I thought it was because I ran it from the editor but - I'm getting the same behaviour when running the game from the modmanager.

Is throwing the 2 assetbundles in a subdir of Plugins in the profile folder/bepinex enough?

[hard monolith]

yeah that would work. Though tbh I'm not familiar with the error, IAmBatby would probably know.

[balmy thistle]

I wonder if it has something to do with tags or some field I nulled in the Scr/Objs. I was honestly hoping everything was going to run smoothly :S

[hard monolith]

I followed the tut about configuring the Scrip/objs but I believe something's missing?
Also, what tutorial are you talking about on this part

[balmy thistle]

AudioKnight's. Are there others? I thought the topic was about this very precise video as the names match https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnZG5464ZcE

[hard monolith]

oh sorry you were talking about the same thing still

I thought you were referring to another tutorial

[balmy thistle]

No no, that's the one. There are a few skips so I wonder if I missed something.
Where do people go to get some general direction when they're starting? is there a hub about mapmaking/deploying it on thunderstore?

[balmy thistle]

I'm suspecting this could be the offender. I probably was expecting to find the "official" tags ready to use and forgot to remove the empty tag ref.

just wondering -since we're not really using it, should we leave the "prefab" "template" inside the folder when deploying the level?
Is it ok to organize extra content (sound/textures/models) into subfolders or there are some special rules?
Also, most importantly, am I missing some quite essential docs about deploying maps with LLL?

[hard monolith]

you can remove it if you want, the one in your scene is unpacked. Just I don't think it matters since if it's not used it won't get bundled

LLL doesn't have anything super comprehensive yet in the way of docs, I can't think of anything off the top of my head for what's essential. There are no rules for where you store your assets, the bundling process finds whats used and bundles it

[balmy thistle]

(the error I was getting was that one tag I forgot to assign :P)
I see - from the little I saw - there's way more freedom than what I thought! 🙂

Btw, I believe the "override weather" settings are not working? On day 1 it was eclipsed, day 2-3 dust clouds, 4 - stormy.

I guess I should just leave one entry to actually override it?

[hard monolith]

I haven't used that setting myself, there are some fields that just don't work as expected, so that could be one but it's worth looking it up in the server

[idle raven]

Override weather wasn't working for me at first either. After a while it just started working. I couldn't tell you what I did to get it to work, but at least it is not 100% broken.

[grand prawn]

How would i take like the light poles from rend and be able to have them on my moon cause just copy pasting doesnt let me move it properly, it just leaves the mesh in its spot

[hard monolith]

either find their mesh in the files and add it to a new gameobject with a new mesh renderer, or use lc-project-patcher's combined mesh splitter

[cinder wasp]

how do i lock a door on my moon? i tried setting it to not interactable but keys can't unlock it

[turbid fern]

I think I copied the locked cabin door from Adamance, but I think to lock a door I'm seeing two boxes that need to be set. In addition to setting the door to not interactable like you have, there is also a "Door Lock (Script)" component and in there there is an "Is Locked" bool. Make sure that that is checked to lock the door and allow the key to work.

[balmy thistle]

Just wondering - has anyone got this issue so far while buildin a moon?
most enemies (not all the times tho) seem to spawn with their foot attached to the nearest wall?
shouldn't enemies always spawn Y up?
What could be causing this? I'm quite clueless as there are no mods >_<

[balmy thistle]

Ok, maybe I'm onto something.
I remember that - since I own a DunGen license, I followed @outer pendant advice to import it before using @empty anvil patcher IIRC. So I ended up with some missing script refs.
I fixed "ma way" as I knew from the video that was a Unity NavMesh Adapter - drag&dropping the appropriate script while the inspector is in Debug mode.

And yet. Now I wonder if the values/settings for the navmesh adapter I have here are the appropriate one.

On the left column: Rend. On the right, my "fixed" version.

Are those settings correct? Maybe they're spawning sideways as there's no navmesh/the links are borked?

I'm using DunGen v2.16

[balmy thistle]

Ok, maybe I found the proper settings from the vid - even if the inspector looks quite different:

Fact is - using Full Dungeon Bake, everything else is grayed out.
So I'm assuming - these are the proper settings?

[balmy thistle]

solved ^^

[unkempt saffron]

Does anyone know what can cause this to happend?

[valid umbra]

Enemies aren't spawning on the navmesh you've baked, check ur spawn nodes

[balmy thistle]

might as well be the very same issue I was having 1 post above 😄

[unkempt saffron]

It was this, thanks!

[valid umbra]

:3

[fallow scroll]

Hello! Does anybody have an idea why would scene lighting disable itself after exiting the dungeon interior? The sun texture is still in the sky, but it's dark as if both Indirect and SunWithShadows are disabled. And it stays disabled even after reloading the level by going there on the next day.

[unkempt saffron]

It's happening because one of the door your using (either the one to enter or to leave the dungeon) has a missing reference in it, like an audio source etc

[fallow scroll]

Thank you, I'll check this out! I saw something about audio triggers in the log, but didn't realise it could be connected to lighting 😅
edit: this was exactly the problem, the teleport script was trying to reference audio sources that were missing, works like a charm after fixing reverb triggers

[grand prawn]

so i have ai points and i built a nav mesh is there anything else i would need for enemies to work outside cause they kinda just arent for some reason

[cinder wasp]

how do you make a scrap item spawn on the surface of your moon? trying to place the prefab itself makes the item disappear when taking off and also not have a value

[sleek saddle]

Custom scripting

[cinder wasp]

hm.

[sour pier]

i know rosie did

[cinder wasp]

@grave lodge

[grave lodge]

Eh depends

You can do what interiors use but it takes from that pool and may decrease the inner scrap amount. Batby is right about needing custom scripting if you want it to be its own thing

[cinder wasp]

unfortunately i don't know scripting

[sharp cave]

Heya, I noticed when building the lethalbundles for my moon, it seems to create duplicate items with. ie "double barrel" shows up twice in the imperium spawn list when the moon is loaded in.

I'm trying to figure out what causes it and how to avoid it.

[sleek saddle]

its likely an "issue" with Imperium unfortunately

[sharp cave]

I'm not sure, just to make sure, I unloaded my custom moon and loaded other custom moons that use LLL such as Orion and the issue didn't occur.

[sharp cave]

I don't know the best place to ask so I thought I'd ask here in hopes of any other level developer who knows about this.

[shy quartz]

hi there! uh, i suddenly started having this issue when i tried to use the build button in the assetbundle browser. would anyone know how to fix it? i am very new to unity (using this mod that im making as my way of learning)

[turbid fern]

I’ve been trying to learn some of Unity through this too, so I don’t really know. However, for clarification since it might prove useful, by “…suddenly started…” do you mean that you’ve been able to before or that this is your first attempt and suddenly you’re hit with this?

[shy quartz]

i had no problems with the AssetBundle Browser, and was even able to fully develop and make a build with two working moons.

then after i tried adding water to one of my moons, i get this error when i try to build

this was yesterday. i had been working on my custom moons for about week at that point

i can also provide console if it would help

the only thing that i can think that may have messed something up was that i used the package manager to attempt to import some git link which i dont think did anything...

but any help at this point would be awesome

https://forum.unity.com/threads/moving-file-failed-the-system-cannot-find-the-file-specified.521656/
i tried following the advice from this forum link because some guy specifically mentioned making lethal moons here and that it helped him but i dont think it worked

(or i did it wrong)

[sleek saddle]

@shy quartz try with no bundle variant

If you have multiple scenes in 1 bundle

you’ll have to add the extension post build manually

Niche bug in Unity

[shy quartz]

@sleek saddle you mean to build with just the moon scenes? and not build with the mod folder?

[sleek saddle]

You have multiple moons ye?

[shy quartz]

yes

[sleek saddle]

Either have the scene bundle be 1 bundle per scene or if you want them all in 1 bundle you gotta remove the variant tag (the lethalbundle tag that’s like the second one)

and then add that file extension manually to the build that is no longer using it

so instead of mycoolbundlename lethalbundle

just mycoolbundlename

then add the .lethalbundle to the file in file explorerer

[shy quartz]

let me see if that works

[sleek saddle]

Basically the whole variant thing (the second tag) is kind of for a completely seperate feature but in this community we just use it to add the file extension that we wanna use

It’s convenient

Except for this 1 bug

[shy quartz]

that didnt work i dont think

just making sure im understanding you correctly

you are talking about this bit here

[sleek saddle]

Ye

[shy quartz]

i have my one moon set like this

the other like this

and i still get the same error

ok ok so if i....

[shy quartz]

if i remove lethalbundle from this it seems to be working so far

[sleek saddle]

it’s only for bundles with more than 1 scene file

that have this problem

[shy quartz]

AH okay i understand i think

so you are saying that i should like split my mod into two?

(or just manually change the file extension every time i bundle)

[sleek saddle]

either split into multiple bundles or do the file extension thing

Ye

[shy quartz]

okay let me test this just to make sure everything is working

okay that seems to have fixed my issue here

im having a new issue but i think its something separate

thank you so much

[turbid fern]

What an odd quirk. Glad you all figured it out!

[sleek saddle]

Makes abit more sense once you look into why bundle variants exist but yeah took me abit to nail down

[shy quartz]

what im curious about is

i got it to build like two or three times with the multiple scenes no problem

how tf did i do that

okay, so im not entirely sure what the problem was, but im going to go ahead and say this here in case anybody has the same issue. i did have to split the mod up. some kind of null exception was happening causing my game to be stuck on displaying the seed.

[shy quartz]

and for anyone using CTRL+F in future: "The system cannot find the file specified."

[shy quartz]

okay, so, my next question is about water. i know this has been addressed here: #1199473521265475745 message but either things have changed since then or i dont understand the directions or something. the third point nomnom mentions i cannot follow as the lc project patcher does not have a runtime/water folder.

[crystal kraken]

Okay so peeps! If you ever find yourself in this situation -> delete the model you wanted to use. I'm still trying to figure out if I can somehow use it, but the issue has something to do with the model. You won't be able to build the assetbundle. You can uninstall unity and reinstall it, IT WONT FIX IT. If I do find out how to fix the issue AND use the model i want, i'll inform you peeps. For now i think this is an important info for anyone who could face the same thing later on...

( Moving Temp/unitystream.unity3d ) - just added this if anyone tries to search for it later

[sleek saddle]

It’s nothing to do with models

[crystal kraken]

it was a material issue

When i deleted the model and everything the was with it that i prepped up i could build the bundle again. Found the solution on a japanese forum (i dont actually speak it lol) on that page they showed the issue with a 2D sprite -> so I reimported my model, changed the material with a force apply on the prefab and now i have my model too ^^

[unborn marsh]

yo, how do i make the terrain itself? I've been following the tutorial, but as you said in it, you didnt clarify how to make the terrain.

im kinda new in unity tho and i havent used any terrain tools

[turbid fern]

I used Unity’s built in system. Over on the Hierarchy tab where all your scene’s objects are, right click and then 3D Object > Terrain. That’ll give you a blank terrain. I think I set its position to -500 -100 (roughly) -500 and that should center it well below the ship. With the terrain selected, you should have terrain options visible on the Inspector tab. I select the “paint terrain” button and then set the drop down menu below it to “set height”. Set the “height” field to about 100 and then with just one terrain tile either of the flatten buttons (this is to set the thickness of the terrain if you will. You can’t lower terrain below its bottom, only raise it so if you want dips this is how to work around that. Its bottom is technically at -100 while the surface is at 0 now, so you can add dips that extend down into the negatives if that makes sense).

The other options in that drop down are pretty self explanatory and have instructions. “Paint texture” and then “edit terrain layers” > “add terrain layer” allows you to add what it looks like and you can pick from some vanilla ones, though I don’t think grass and sand were in there and I had to recreate them on my own (I can share how if you’d like).

In the “terrain settings” (right-most of the things like “paint terrain”) there’s a few things you need to do. “Draw instanced” should be checked and at the bottom for “rendering layer mask” make sure you have layer 0, 8, 10 selected (quicksand for instance exists on one of those layers).

There’s a lot of text there I know, and probably some more details I didn’t cover. I myself don’t know what everything is but I can try to help more if you want it.

[grave lodge]

Neverrrr mind T-T

this is so strange

[unborn marsh]

thanks, i figured it out

i just need to do trees and spawns and its finished!

[turbid fern]

You're welcome!

[glass forge]

So what is the easiest way to update your Unity project files to v55 without breaking your moon? Or is creating a new project and importing the old one really the best way?

[crystal kraken]

Time to assemble the minds of the mooners

[valid umbra]

dont bother doing it now

wait for the beta to finish

[glass forge]

That's fair, though the question still stands

[valid umbra]

i can probably give an answer when i update mine in full release

[green spear]

now im really confused

how do i set up enemy curves properly?

like, im really having troubles to set things up correct

im not really interested in wasting 4+ hours just to make enemies spawn just fine

[turbid fern]

I’d have to look again to be certain but I’m pretty sure I usually copy/paste from a vanilla level and then alter it. I think they run from 0-1 along the horizontal axis. 0 is start of day, 1 is end. Vertically is how many enemies spawn, but there is another variable to account for (I think it’s called enemy spawn range?) that I believe means that it can offset from the curve by that amount. Example: if you set the variable to 2, at a point on your curve that has 2 as the vertical unit the spawns can be randomly between 0-4. As far as editing the curve itself, I think you can just right click along the curve and it’ll bring up something that allows you to add a key, which is a point at that place on the curve. You can then drag said point around to reshape or I believe right click to manually enter exact values.

It takes some tinkering to figure out, but I don’t think it should take 4+ hours.

[green spear]

Honestly

For me

Lc code is a spaghetti

And there is a lot of undocumented stuff that does opposite to what I assume based on its name

So

This helps a lot at this point

[rain hemlock]

looking for some help if possible. I followed the video tutorial as well as the comments added below, and I am running into an issue. Whenever I go into the game (loaded with thunderstore, all of the described mods from the video, the mods mentioned by OP in the comments, plus the LethalBundles folder created from the Unity project in the plugins folder of the thunderstore profile which would contain the moon I wish to add) I can see the name of the moon in the terminal, but the game hangs at the random seed shown below (left).

Also below is the error I receive in the BepInEx console window (right).

If anybody has any suggestions, I'd greatly appreciate it!

[smoky storm]

Hey, I was working in the moon and in the terminal, the custom moon doesn't appear, what do I do? Do I need to complete the terminal route override settings?

[rain hemlock]

If you are following the video check the comments, there are some extra notes not added in the video. That made the planet appear for me, but I cannot land on it unfortunately

[buoyant flare]

Hi! i reimported my old LC using lethal level loader recently and noticed that the file size is 80 times larger than what it was with lethal expansion. Can I just remove these assets that are already in the game? Or do I have to manually figure out which ones i happen to use in the scene and remove the rest?

[sour pier]

cant land ship on my moon

nvm fixed it

[sour pier]

how do i make it so there can be holes on moons?

when I go in game

they are still covered lol

[turbid fern]

Could you elaborate on what you mean by “holes”? There’s some tool in the terrain stuff like raise/lower that puts a hole in the terrain object I think, but haven’t used it. Are you trying to use that and the terrain is regenerating for some reason in game?

[crystal kraken]

uhh maybe quicksand?

[turbid fern]

If it is quicksand, there was some setting in the terrain for what layers it renders and I had to add one for quicksand to show, but I don’t remember off the top of my head. I don’t have access to my laptop so can’t check currently. You also don’t sink in quicksand if it’s on terrain that’s been tagged a certain way from what I can tell (like “concrete”).

[sour pier]

yea

I use the unity terrain tools to put a hole

but then in game it regenerates

[turbid fern]

Oh. That’s odd. I haven’t messed with it yet so unfortunately I don’t have any tips. I have a moon idea that might use it though, so I hope there’s some way to do it.

[sour pier]

im trying to make a cave here

looks fine in editor

in game, it is covered by the terrain

[sour pier]

all good

[turbid fern]

Just because I can’t think of a logical reason for this, I want to make sure, you have saved the scene, built the assetbundle, and moved that bundle into your mod or whatever for testing, right? Because a few times I think I’ve made a change and saved it, built the updated bundle again, but didn’t move it into my testing mod so the changes wouldn’t show in-game.

[sour pier]

Hmm I will double check thanks!

[sour pier]

So im trying to place down cubes inside terrain, and there isnt any collision witht hem

[turbid fern]

You might have to add a component to them. Either box collider or mesh collider.

[sour pier]

I did both, and tried both of them alone, didnt work

im probably just not gonna do the cave system lol

how do I fix this boxy texture

when trying to paint terrain

[old cobalt]

anyone active rn? i'm trying to start modding by making a moon

i have zero experience with unity or programming

or any of this stuff

[crystal kraken]

You should watch the video that Starlancer aka Audioknight made

Its a bit outdated but its still good for starters

[old cobalt]

How outdated?

Also I'm currently following the tutorial

[sour pier]

Eh not really

[turbid fern]

I don’t know exactly, but I think he’s been putting stuff in the comments as things update. Not sure if he still does though. Like, I know the most recent version of the game has a mold attraction point on each moon and I don’t know if he covers that, but you can look at vanilla scenes as well and just see what’s there.

[sour pier]

Anything he doesn’t answer, there is a lot of people here who will help like sniper above

[turbid fern]

Not sure why the collision issue you were experiencing would be a thing. Could they be tagged weirdly or on an odd layer? In regards to the texture painting boxy, I think it kind of always will but you might be able to adjust the brush opacity or see if there’s some settings in the terrain stuff for it. I can’t remember but I remember having to Google for it.

[sour pier]

I know I can increase the resolution, I just thing the road and the snow don’t blend together well lol, also the collision thing I just gave up, it’s fine tho I made a different system

I’m close to finishing that moon, all I need to do is make the read me which I’m to lazy, thx for the help to mate appreciate it

[old cobalt]

Mold attraction?

[sour pier]

For kidnapper foxes

[old cobalt]

whys it called mold

[turbid fern]

Glad to hear it’s coming along. You’re welcome!

[turbid fern]

I haven’t been able to play the newest version yet but from my understanding there’s some mold-like bushes that start to spread (like mold) on moons you visit frequently (or just in general over time?). Eventually that fox spawns from them.

[sour pier]

for some reason I cant build my bundle

there is an error

if I change the fodler same error

just to that folder

[shy quartz]

yeah okay, i had this issue too, do you have multiple scenes in your mod?

[sour pier]

Yea I have this random one let me delete it

[shy quartz]

yeah, apparently its a unity bug or something, cant build the mod with multiple scenes in it so you need to split your mod up if you want to do that

[sour pier]

same issue

[shy quartz]

then ah, i dont know

[sour pier]

alr thx for the help tho

I did tried copying the fog trigger from rend

issue happened after that

but even if I removed that it still breaks

ok I deleted that file

seems to be working fine

[sour pier]

im having trouble uploading images

https://imgur.com/a/BNG1Tvy

here are my images

onto thunderstore btw

[old cobalt]

tutorial

my end

i dont have the same textures

why?

and why does everything look like this

but the tutorial looks like this

[turbid fern]

Yeah, for some reason I can only assume Zeekerss deleted those terrain layers from the vanilla game and that’s why they don’t port. The textures are still there but you have to make the terrain layer yourself. I don’t know exactly how to make the one from the tutorial, but I think I recreated a grass and sand one like what vanilla levels use.

[old cobalt]

so how do you go about creating them?

i cant find any grass textures or anything anywhere

[turbid fern]

I think it was called moss or something. I gotta sleep for now, but I’ll try to get back to you on that

[turbid fern]

#1204432295025578014 message

Here was a comment someone made with some tips. I think one involved image adding, but I can get back to you in more detail tomorrow as I gotta sleep at the moment

[sour pier]

Thx

[sour pier]

Released my moon btw

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1262986044001751041

[old cobalt]

thanks :3

sleep well

[old cobalt]

is anyone up?

i have no idea how to actually test the mod in game outside unity editor

the starlancer tutorial doesnt show how to actually get the test moon into the real game

so now i'm just left here having zero clue what to do next

[old cobalt]

i figured it out

checked the comments

someone else had the same questions

[crystal kraken]

Its outdated cuz LLL has now ExtendedMod where you would put your ExtendedLevel and everything else you’d make

Such as ExtendedItems if you have scraps

These need Level Matching Properties

And ContentTag

[valid umbra]

it also uses teh wrong unity patcher

pretty outdated lol

[old cobalt]

i have a working moon now :3333

does anyone wanna test it with me tomorrow?

well

later today

i stayed up until 8:30 am working on it

[old cobalt]

nevermind

9am

i'm still working on it

[turbid fern]

Create a terrain layer somewhere in your project (In my case I have everything in the Mods folder, then I have subfolders assets -> materials for terrain layers and things). Fill out the stuff like I have and that should be the grass one. I set the alpha min and max to 0. I think that's how much light can reflect, so a max of 1 means 100% of the light that hits it reflects. I originally had that and the ground was really shiny. You can mess around with that stuff though. Once you have created your terrain layer, it should show up in the list of terrain layers that you asked about earlier.

[crystal kraken]

Got this error on one of my next moon and i have no clue why i cant land on it 🤷‍♂️

[valid umbra]

check the moons item list

or scrap list

[sour pier]

does anyone have a death plane I could borrow

[crystal kraken]

fixed it - got a scenenaming convention issue

[turbid fern]

There's some in vanilla levels like Rend/Dine I think, not sure which ones. They kill you if you walk off a cliff which I think is what you're wanting. You can probably copy/paste it.

[sour pier]

alr thx

[outer pendant]

I'll put together a new tutorial this weekend. Anxiety is just a monster

[valid umbra]

That would be nice :3 ty

[cinder wasp]

would it be possible to add a permanent rainy effect to my moon, no matter the weather?

[outer pendant]

Sure, use particle effects

[cinder wasp]

i mean the base game rain effects with it following you, don't know how to manually add that

[outer pendant]

Ah, not sure then. There was an attempt at one point to use the MatchLocalPlayerPosition component or w/e it's called on a particle system to maximize performance while having a decent number of particles. If you can find how to disable the particle system upon entering the facility that could work.

[fallow scroll]

I think Rosie uses MatchLocalPlayerPosition on Summit moon for the snow particles, but afaik some custom code had to be written to disable it inside the facility.

[outer pendant]

That sounds right. She and I were discussing the whole idea way back when Summit was in its early stages 🤭

[old cobalt]

Ye, I already did all that. Managed to figure it out, thanks tho!

[old cobalt]

Do you know if there's any current tutorials on how to package the files to be uploaded to thunderstore?

[outer pendant]

Nothing has changed regarding that. Take whatever mod files you've made along with a readme, icon, and manifest.json, compress them into a .zip archive, and upload.
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/create/docs/

[old cobalt]

I don't know what files need to be put in

That's my biggest concern

Also thanks for that link :3

I had no idea where to find that

[old cobalt]

Is it just the files in the lethal bundles folder?

[outer pendant]

For a moon, you need the following files. You have to create the manifest, readme, and icon yourself. Changelog is optional. Readme and Changelog need to be in .md (markdown) format.

[old cobalt]

this is everything in the lethal bundles folder

just the two that are lethalbundle files?

[outer pendant]

Yep. Meta and Manifest files created by the asset bundler are only for use by Unity, all you need are your .lethalbundles

[old cobalt]

how do i add LLL as a dependecy?

also thank you so much for the personal help

i think i found out

[outer pendant]

Just to put it out clearly, here's where you create dependencies. You just take the string you can find on LLL's Thunderstore page

[old cobalt]

ye :3

thanks for confirming

wuh

its literally not???

anyone have advice for thunderstore gaslighting me?

i figured it out

nevermind

fixed the formatting error and its still gaslighting me

this is gonna make me punch a hole in my monitor

its impossible to be user error

i tried copying someone elses manifest and it still just said

"nuh uh"

[turbid fern]

Maybe it’s a syntax error? Can we see it’s contents? Also, your file extension seems to say the type is “json source file” but the one from Starlancer is “json file”. Don’t know if that’s just a different name for the same thing or those are actually different file types.

Just saw your newest comment. By copying, was it the file or the text within?

[old cobalt]

i got it working by directly copying the actual file from another moon mod

that was annoying

thanks for helping

[turbid fern]

Oh, cool. Interesting. Glad it’s working now.

[old cobalt]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/StupidStellaMod/51Verdance/

feels super cool having a mod i made public

[crystal kraken]

Gotta try it out tomorrow ^^ you should probably make a mod-release thread for it

[old cobalt]

i have no idea how to do that

[turbid fern]

It is a cool feeling. The one image looks cool. At some point you might want to add a few more, and a post in the mod-release area like the other person mentioned might be a good idea. Then you can put a link to it in the README.

Ah, one of the channels is mod releases. I think you can just go there and create a post there.

[crystal kraken]

Yeah you just need to have a small info for what the mod is about and place the thunderstore link in there + add tags to the thread

[cinder wasp]

snow particles aren't vanilla 🥹

[cinder wasp]

if adding permanent rainy particles isn't possible, i guess the best i can do is replacing clear with rainy. will have to find a way to make quicksand not spawn because quicksand would suck on the moon.

[sour pier]

I want to make another moon but I just dont know to do tbh

[sour pier]

you can make it so its always rainy

but then you cant do other weather conditions

[cinder wasp]

override weather only overrides clear

[sour pier]

yea

[cinder wasp]

so i can still have other weathers

[sour pier]

you can also make rain particlies and place down mud

idk how you could randomize the placment of the mud

I would look into that

and bam, makeshift rainy weather

[cinder wasp]

i'm not trying to remake rainy weather i'm trying to just have the rain effects

[sour pier]

yea
rain effects are
rain particlies
and mud

so just get rain particlies, and mud

[cinder wasp]

i mean the particles

[sour pier]

oh then find a tutrioul on how to make rain

[crystal kraken]

You will need lethal toolbox for that

[cinder wasp]

for what?

[crystal kraken]

Oh you are not talking about the rainy weather but having a constant rain on the moon?

[cinder wasp]

yeah

[sour pier]

hello would anyone know how to spawn in scraps on the moon surface?

or would I need to make my own script

I remember it was possible to do it, but it would take it from the interior spawns as well, but I dont mind doing that

[sour pier]

what is the thing that interiors use?

[turbid fern]

I’m not sure exactly, but somewhere in the files are the prefabs for interior rooms and things I’m pretty sure. You could probably open the prefab and find it in there.

[sour pier]

Ah ok thx

[sleek saddle]

people talking here can use #dev-moons now

[turbid fern]

Ooh shiny

[sour pier]

tbh I would need starlancers permission, I dont want to betray this thread

[outer pendant]

lmao go right ahead

[sour pier]

bet

[outer pendant]

I don't really get anything from people posting in this thread 🤭

[sour pier]

but yea I feel like people should move to the devolopment of moons, since its less hidden, and more people will see it

[old cobalt]

i have a question for you about the tutorial

if i wanted to follow the tutorial, but use rend to keep the blizzard effect, what would i do differently?

[outer pendant]

I think Rend uses a local volumetric fog with the 3D Smoke texture for a scrolling effect

[sour pier]

you can just copy it from rend

[old cobalt]

i dont really know what i'm looking for

to copy

[sour pier]

I can show you an image

I will show it in devolopment moons

[sour pier]

sent it

[sour pier]

do you know how to recreate those old ones?

[turbid fern]

I can check what I did for a sand one, but for the grass I did what’s shown here: #1210653206225363018 message

I only made the sand and grass, so not sure about any others. However, it would probably be similar. You’d just have to find the right things.

[old cobalt]

You can also mix textures and normal maps

And mask maps

To create more unique textures

[crystal kraken]

Fun fact: That is also what zeekerss did for a material on the dropship ^^

[outer raft]

i may start making mods honestly i have nothing else to do

learn unity and blender so i can start modding

omg i specifically set unity to NOT install on my c drive but it did anyways

[sour pier]

ty!

[outer raft]

i cant find thge template in the video'

[old cobalt]

Me

That's why I started

[outer raft]

nvm i found it

[outer raft]

i havent even touched unity in my life

[old cobalt]

same

until like 3 days ago

[outer raft]

im so overwhelmed already omg

[turbid fern]

Don’t worry. It takes time but you do figure it out. I’m still not great but I definitely know more now than when I started. Plus, this is a good place to ask questions/get help.

[outer raft]

omg it takes so long to set up unity

[sleek saddle]

more specifically #dev-moons

[sour pier]

💀 I dont beleive you, ur way to good to only been using it for 3 days