loaforcsSoundAPI

[cinder jolt]

straight from dealing issues with almost accidently bankrupting landfall to this omfg

im going to murder playonawake istg

[proper dragon]

I mean what exactly changed from 1.0.5 that's breaking stuff?

Lol

Cus you said you reverted the changes so my guess is something was missed lol

[cinder jolt]

istg if its actually because it's awake and not start now

[proper dragon]

Inb4 that is it

Yeah it threw a bunch of NRE errors

@cinder jolt What did you do?

😂

[cinder jolt]

i got no clue

[proper dragon]

Menu sounds still Brokey with 1.0.8

😭

[cinder jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-gif-10487976503085012594

[proper dragon]

Same issue as the clip I posted earlier

[mortal nymph]

wait u already have a sound api for content warning?

[cinder jolt]

yes soundapi is game agnostic

[mortal nymph]

u made it generic enough for any unity game eh

thats actually fire

[cinder jolt]

i wanted to avoid the whole lcsoundtool fiasco in another game so i made it so i could easily transfer it

[mortal nymph]

smart

[proper dragon]

Yeah the issue is now he's trying to figure out why the LC version is broken

Lol

[mortal nymph]

thanks to that design content warning players can already start modding their sounds

[proper dragon]

barch

Clearly it's you and mrov's fault

fix SoundAPI

😂

jk jk

[proper dragon]

It's gotta be something that you forgot to revert back since 1.0.5 isn't brokey

[mortal nymph]

@manic heron we broke soundapi 🤝

[proper dragon]

https://clips.twitch.tv/HomelySucculentCurlewVoteNay-ADhBCE8OAzB3eAKr @mortal nymph I pulled a Lyra moment and yelled at Bongo

XD

[mortal nymph]

i like how u autopiloting almost deleted ur save

[cinder jolt]

landfall broke soundapi by releasing content warning, i almost bankrupt landfall its really an even playing field here

[proper dragon]

I was intentionally going to delete that save there

[mortal nymph]

jk u did delete on purpose

[proper dragon]

Yeah lol

Cus some important mod updates had come out and I removed some mods as well there

[mortal nymph]

almost dont count, u should've went through with it 💯

[pine gale]

its okay, being sued is only a concept

dont let that stop you

[mortal nymph]

shruge

[proper dragon]

At this point I'd say just reupload 1.0.5 to TS for LC, since you really broke something 😅

There has to be something that's wrong here

[proper dragon]

@cinder jolt this might actually be it, cus the main menu theme seems to play on boot til a menu button is pressed, which then kills the menu theme from continuing to play

Very strange lol

[cinder jolt]

i reverted back to start in 1.0.8

[proper dragon]

Wtf

So it's something else that got changed since 1.0.5 then

What is making it kill the menu theme when a button is pressed?

The good news is compared to 1.0.6 all the button sounds in the main menu work

Hmmmmmm

@cinder jolt I'm gonna guess it's like the main menu theme is on a trigger right now and when a button is pressed it kills it and overrides it

[proper dragon]

Might be worth looking at the NRE errors from 1.0.7 I would guess they're the same in 1.0.8

[manic heron]

lol did we?

[mortal nymph]

yea we did

[manic heron]

💀

[mortal nymph]

it's finally bongo's turn 😂

[pine gale]

trio of breaking shit

[manic heron]

oh hey, you're also here 🤭

i'm sure the redwood giant (possibly plushie) broke sound api

shame

[pine gale]

tbf the audio clips are kinda broken rn

they work but i get a warning that they're null, even though they're clearly not

i have no idea what the game is smoking

its only when i play the sounds in a fast pace too

oh whoops i meant to put this in developemnt general

[mortal nymph]

upgrade that to quartet

[mortal nymph]

so the audio clips work until it gets "spammed"?

[pine gale]

yep

[kindred pecan]

hey is

ive been hearing there are some oopsie dasies with the newer versions of the api

whats goin on

[cinder jolt]

landfall made content warning and then i broke soundapi lol

[odd minnow]

is content warning anygood?

[cinder jolt]

yeah its pretty good

only worried that because it doesn't have randomly generated interiors its going to die

but i may be clutching up by making the custom level loader

[formal token]

1.0.7 'n 1.0.8 aren't changelogs - are those the updates that make it "You can safely update dis now" . ,.?

[cinder jolt]

no its still broken lol

[proper dragon]

I would say just push 1.0.5 again as 1.0.9

Since the new builds are brokey

[pine gale]

Unless he commits to the github consistently, 1.0.5 is kinda poofed

[cinder jolt]

nah i think my dev branch is at 1.0.5

[dark crypt]

What's the last working version ;(

[cinder jolt]

1.0.5

[dark crypt]

Okay ty

[kindred pecan]

How did you fucky wucky explode your api

Well I guess if you knew you’d fix it

[fiery arrow]

Loaf decided to modify soundapi to work with content warning and that broke the lc side of things

[cinder jolt]

it shouldn't and thats why its horrible

[proper dragon]

Idk why you haven't just reuploaded 1.0.5 as 1.0.9 yet to the TS page 😅

R2 always saying your mod has an update is daunting lol

[fiery arrow]

Yeah, pull the 1.0.5 code, fix the logging, post as 1.0.9. Figure out the other problem in the background

[proper dragon]

Agreed

[cinder jolt]

unfortunately i just looked through and the code in 1.0.9 is logically the exact same, the syntax is a little bit different but it will be the exact same thing

[fiery arrow]

programming

[pine gale]

Did you update any of your software?

[cinder jolt]

nope it just does what it wants

[pine gale]

Rip

Maybe ask thunderstore staff if its possible to take newer versions down

Tho idk if that would mess with CW

[cinder jolt]

its not even live on cw because i cant reupload it there with the same name lol

[fiery arrow]

Add a dash to it or something

[cinder jolt]

💀 i dont even care anymore

[fiery arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/404soob-pepe-pp-gif-21552696

[cinder jolt]

yeah i literally downloaded 1.0.5 and changed the number

[fiery arrow]

So when logging fix?

[cinder jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-gif-10487976503085012594

[jolly nova]

damn, even a 1.0.5 clone isn't working with v50? rip

[fiery arrow]

It does work with v50, the logging is just broken

[jolly nova]

that's all? alright

[fiery arrow]

Pain in the ass for me, because I have to manually check the sound file name and patch a test file in just to get the GO

[jolly nova]

unfortunate

[fiery arrow]

And even then some sounds just don't appear

[jolly nova]

v50's just been a pain in the ass for modders in general

just waiting for the day there's some sort of major update to it that breaks shit again

[fiery arrow]

eh whatever, just updating my mod and clocking out. Not doing an audiolist update until logging is fixed or pixel ats me to do it

[jolly nova]

whatever works, your sanity takes priority over everything else lol

[oblique relic]

so is 1.0.10 just 1.0.5?

[cinder jolt]

yes

[jolly nova]

well, i tried out my mod in v50 and got this error that caused the custom audio not to play... i guess i probably should've disabled the log-shortening stuff first, but yeah. weird thing is that it doesn't even seem to mention the custom api, and the original audio worked fine, so not sure what the issue is. (i'm on meltdown experimental which should be fine) 018eac0b-1d84-e36f-1c9c-8c5621fb9129

[cinder jolt]

were you on a modded moon?

seems like one of the gameobjects that holds a bunch of data for meltdown failed

[jolly nova]

nah, started a new game on experimentaion

[cinder jolt]

and also https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1191847266777042985

[jolly nova]

yeah, probably better to share it there, but wanted to give you a heads up since you've been helpful and see if you happen to have any ideas. just kind of weird that it seemed fine and then it broke. man don't we all love v50

[cinder jolt]

oh didn't zeekers push another update? maybe thats broken something as wwell

[ancient axle]

honestly this is what gives LC the edge in the long run

[ancient axle]

agony

nah

We're still on 50.0.0-beta.2

we had .0 6 days ago, .1 4 days ago, and .2 2 days ago

[cinder jolt]

oh yeah i only updated for the first version

[formal token]

so 1.0.10 is 1.0.5 and it works, so I am safe to slam the "update all" button? :D

[fiery arrow]

yup

[chilly mango]

I didn't know Content Warning has Lethal Resonance (according to the Readme xD)

[pine gale]

LOL

[cinder jolt]

😅

[mortal nymph]

LOOL

[slow coral]

I haven't followed the development of this mod for a long time, but still, have you already added the ability to make sound replacements only for specific moons?

[cinder jolt]

yeah but it could be broken in v50

[slow coral]

Oh, great! So far, v50 as a whole is not strongly supported by modding, so it doesn't really matter, except that I hope that with the release of v50 from beta it will be fixed

[fiery arrow]

@cinder jolt Is there a way to do "if mod is installed, then false"? This doesn't work

[cinder jolt]

that should work

one sec

[fiery arrow]

That or I got the mod name wrong, in which case you need to change wiki to explain it better

[cinder jolt]

is the yipee mod only using customsounds/lcsoundtool?

or does it have actual code

[fiery arrow]

actual code, it has its own sound cue

[cinder jolt]

the mod_installed onlychecks actually loaded mods with code

should be sunnobunno.YippeeMod instead

every mod does their guid a bit different so you have to look at the source to figure it out

[fiery arrow]

Yeah should explain that in docs

Yup, that fixed it. Thanks

[mortal nymph]

yippeeeeeeeeee!

[fiery arrow]

Got annoyed with hearing wall-e at the same time as yippee so i'm just gonna add full support for it

[kindred pecan]

@cinder jolt

you available rn

i got some small questions about the configs

[cinder jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/boykisser-hello-chat-gif-4996979203732278907

[kindred pecan]

.

yea uh

i remember hearing chatter awhile back about the multithreading config and stuff but i never payed too much attention to it

mind running me by all the pros and cons and recommended configs for it are?

[cinder jolt]

pros:

• lethalresonance from 11 seconds to 2
  cons:
• uhh
• ummm
• :3

[cinder jolt]

you can actually just go into the sound_pack.json and add "load_on_startup": [] and it will just speed up

probably going to remove that anyway now because multithreading works differently to when i first did it

[kindred pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/i-know-what-you-are-boykisser-ominous-stare-gif-1854943194524266546

thanks og

should i leave the number of threads the same?

[cinder jolt]

yeah

[kindred pecan]

thank u

[cinder jolt]

Kevin Hart

[fiery arrow]

@cinder jolt So i've been trying to get meltdown to work with LR, but the warning voicelines are screwed.
I have

            "matches": "MeltdownHandler:warning1",
            "sounds": [
                {
                    "sound": "meltdown/WarningFar1.ogg",
                    "condition": {
                    "type": "LethalCompany:player_location",
                    "value": "outside"
                    }
                },
                {
                    "sound": "meltdown/WarningFar1.ogg",
                    "condition": {
                    "type": "LethalCompany:player_location",
                    "value": "on_ship"
                    }
                },
                {
                    "sound": "Silence.ogg",
                    "condition": {
                    "type": "LethalCompany:player_location",
                    "value": "inside"
                    }
                }
            ]
        },```
in the .json (including copies for 2-4) but for some reason when loaded it only ever plays the first variant. Even when the logs say soundapi is loading #2, only #1 plays

[sleek dew]

Has anyone encountered this?

audio clip, what is this...

[unreal pasture]

yo so, hope I'm not really asking something redundant, but with the Custom Meltdown example script you gave, is it possible to make it have a selection of songs to choose from in the same way that the PizzaTowerEscapeMusic mod does? Or is it only limited to choosing the one audio file?

[cinder jolt]

yeah that's completely possible

[cinder jolt]

do you mean the outside and onship ones? you have them set to the same sound file

[unreal pasture]

am i right to assume it'd be like this or would it be something a bit more complex formatting wise?

[cinder jolt]

"sounds": [
{ "sound": one possible sound},
{ sound: other possible sound}
]

[unreal pasture]

awesome, thank you!

[cinder jolt]

that isn't formatted correctly but it's about that

[unreal pasture]

so would it be formatted a lil like this?

or just one straight line?

[cinder jolt]

doesn't matter

either will work

[unreal pasture]

alright, once more thank you

[fiery arrow]

I swear if this is it...

[unreal pasture]

your mods are awesome btw, can't play the game the same again without the meltdown

[unreal pasture]

tf does it mean by this?

[cinder jolt]

old debug log for me

[unreal pasture]

ah

is it an error by any chance? like what's it comparing there?

i-

Is this normal//

it's having some kind of hissy fit over the braces i think?

[manic heron]

welcome to working with json

[unreal pasture]

the horrors

[fiery arrow]

@cinder jolt How easily do you think you'd be able to make a feature that plays sounds in order as opposed to being random

[cinder jolt]

would need quite a bit of work

[fiery arrow]

What about a "is player on a moon or in orbit" condition?

[cinder jolt]

that wouldn't be hard

[fiery arrow]

if you can cook a patch soon-ish with that and more importantly the logging
that'd be great

[unreal pasture]

it just keeps throwing the debug message whenever the music is meant to play (the music does not play)

[jolly nova]

hmm... just tried it myself and it's working fine, it could be some kind of mod conflict. bongo would know more about that than me though. what mods are you using? and do you have LCMaxSoundsFix?

wait i'm dumb, you're making you're own, not using my mod lol. ignore all that. i had a similar issue. if you're using mp3, try converting to wav.

if that's not it though, i have no idea.

[unreal pasture]

been using ogg

[cinder jolt]

well I figured out how to redirect logs to another file as well as the console :3

[cinder jolt]

do you have an error on startup?

[unreal pasture]

lemmie quickly re launch the game and check

anything relating to soundapi (blanked out alot of file path information)

mods im using aswell just in-case

[jovial ingot]

Is it possible to have multiple sounds replacing the same audio using this api?

I want to have multiple main menu songs and every time you launch the game the one that's selected is random

[jovial ingot]

Anyone know where I can find the default sound? Because I don't want to replace it, I want to add a variant

Unless there's a way to just add a variant without replacing it?

[fiery arrow]

Gotta decompile the game and include the original sound in your mod

[fiery arrow]

@cinder jolt I have this set up for the time based stingers, but it operates weirdly.

The sound is only triggered once (as far as the game is concerned), so I would expect these two to "play at the same time" and then swap depending on where the player is. Instead the sounds are triggered when the location condition becomes true.

So if I'm standing outside the ship, "StingerNight" starts playing. But the moment I step onto the ship "StingerNightShort" starts playing, and they both overlap each other.

[cinder jolt]

silly ig :3

[fiery arrow]

That doesn't explain anything though 💀

[cinder jolt]

im guessing the nigh audio cue is special maybe? have you been able to replicate it with anything else?

[fiery arrow]

Not yet

The weird part is the "short" sound plays for the second time if I leave and enter the ship after it has stopped playing

The long sound is so long I haven't noticed it happen but my guess is the same behaviour would occur with it too

[merry sedge]

hello

any idea of why this melody can be heared? (I don't have any sound doing that)

[fiery arrow]

already answered this elsewhere ^^

[merry sedge]

yup, thx

[steady rain]

is there any way to disable the logging? this completely spams the logs which is really annoying

[cinder jolt]

nope

not yet at least

[cinder jolt]

v1.0.11

• Deprecated load_on_startup (Multithreading is now always before the main menu, so it didn't make sense to have this anymore) and random (i've got a better plan for syncing sounds. eventually.)
• Changed default threads from 32 to 4
• Slightly improved memory usage
• Setting sound to null on a sound replacement will remove the sound if it gets replaced like that.
• Added timer to multithreaded load times.

also i think this fixes the logging

(not the spamming though, you can deal with it)

[pine gale]

I'll spam ur mouth

Go fix it

[cinder jolt]

what 🥺

also i tyhink id rather combust than work on the codebase anymore

[pine gale]

Fair

[fiery arrow]

okay, now im even more confused, I was using the wrong GO for the warnings and it was somehow replacing them??? I dont even know anymore man

[cinder jolt]

uhh i think i changed which GO it was on in 2.5?

[fiery arrow]

Somehow they're being replaced even though I was calling for the wrong GOs

im so confused

[cinder jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[proper dragon]

Please tell me you fixed the chance for Multithreading to cause chainloader failures sometimes or cause the game to freeze when pressing Online or Lan

I disabled it a while ago cus of this

[cinder jolt]

i thought i did with the new multithreader?

did the issues come back?

[proper dragon]

It still happens on rare occasion

Even with the new one

[cinder jolt]

oh yeah i was having issues and increased the thread spawn delay time and it seemed to help a lot

[proper dragon]

Ahhhh

[proper dragon]

@cinder jolt A lot of sounds are not playing properly after the new update

You borked something

[pine gale]

Go sleep

[proper dragon]

Hey he needs to know, I was testing something else rq before bed and half the sounds were fucked

Lol

[pine gale]

It's been like 2 hours since u ended stream cuz too eepy smh

[proper dragon]

I know x.x I plan to pass out in a few minutes

[cinder jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-wegeekinghard-blud-tiktok-animatronic-tweaking-gif-18331326635054461479

[proper dragon]

Yeah I downgraded

018f38ca-dd15-6513-5494-5f9dd1f7411e If you need to test, footstep sounds were dead, ship routing sounds screwed, terminal typing not working, some menu sounds not working

LOL

Just update it and test basically

[cinder jolt]

anyway i fixed it

@proper dragon can you try 1.0.12 eventually and see if that fixes it :3

[merry sedge]

Should I remove the "load_on_startup"?

[proper dragon]

Will do

[proper dragon]

Yeah seems better now lol, typing really fast on the terminal seems to cause typing sounds to break but otherwise hopefully that's the only issue now XD

[cinder jolt]

yeah it does nothing anymore

[merry sedge]

got it

[mellow shoal]

@cinder jolt
Why no off?

[cinder jolt]

normal is a normal amount lol

this really only changes the debug logs that it spits out

[proper dragon]

Yeah that was kind of the point of his question I think, I think he wants to disable it spitting debug logs lol

just need NONE as an acceptable option

😛

[cinder jolt]

that's what normal does

[proper dragon]

Haha

[proper dragon]

@cinder jolt just had the Multithreading cause the game to freeze when pressing Online again

Fix it please

Gonna disable it again for now

😆

[cinder jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-wegeekinghard-blud-tiktok-animatronic-tweaking-gif-18331326635054461479

[cinder jolt]

wait when pressing online?

i do literally nothing

thats something else probably

[proper dragon]

I've only ever had this issue happen sometimes with SoundAPI Multithreading

v.v

If I disable it it never reproduces

[cinder jolt]

might be a environement issue? if you have time could you try reproduce it with only soundapi/lr?

[cinder jolt]

did you get time to test this @proper dragon? (also dont even know if you saw it lmao)

[fiery arrow]

@cinder jolt Any chance you could add a fourth mode that only does "getting replacement" ? These other ones are just filling the log

[manic heron]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/BlueAmulet/LogNeuter/ 🥺

[cinder jolt]

the other ones (the sound1 == sound2) should actually be in my losing it logging, the getting replacement for is the correct one you should be looking at 😅

[fiery arrow]

the == logging is active in every logging level

getting replacement is activated when extended or losing it is selected

[cinder jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/602207979105681451/1236185543730270249/image0.gif

[proper dragon]

I never did get around to testing this but if you're unable to reproduce it with just your mod and LR I would say it's likely an issue with mods that alter the main menu like MoreCompany, Emblem, or even LLL potentially

The Multithreading may introduce conflicts or issues somehow

[cinder jolt]

also while testing terbium on your profile i was unable to reproduce it so i have no clue :3

[proper dragon]

Yeah I just added Terbium lol

[cinder jolt]

do tell me if anything breaks with terbium, i havent fully tested it

[fiery arrow]

@cinder jolt Im noticing that sounds coming through a walkie talkie get a completely different Game object and sound source. Having to add it to every sound would be a huge pain, any way you could automate that?

[cinder jolt]

wdym?

[fiery arrow]

For example, when an old bird is shooting missiles the sound is "metarig:CreatureSFX:ShotgunBlast", but if you are listening to someone being shot at through the walkie the sound becomes "WalkieTalkie:Target:ShotgunBlast"

[cinder jolt]

i'll have a look

but the answer will probably be just *:ShotgunBlast (and having to just deal with not being able to get more specific)

[fiery arrow]

What about a condition that automatically makes every matched sound in the replacer also check for "WalkieTalkie:Target:"

[lavish hearth]

Wait wouldn't this then make the same sound whether or not you are hearing it through a walkie?

[cinder jolt]

ehh maybe

not a big fan of making it more game specific, but theres not really a better way

[fiery arrow]

Nope, the game automatically applies the radio filter. Only the path changes

[lavish hearth]

Oh ok

[cinder jolt]

and also there's a nice function already for it so i dont have to do too much work :3

[fiery arrow]

nice

[cinder jolt]

looping audios might not work properly though, don't know how those work

[fiery arrow]

the steampipe sound comes through the walkie, check that to see if it has a version for looping

[proper dragon]

@cinder jolt I managed to fix the chainloader failures and crashes when pressing Online by setting HideManagerGameObject to True in my BepInEx config, so maybe that setting is gonna end up needing to be changed to true by default for SoundAPI after all lol

[cinder jolt]

i'm like 95% certain those two are not correlated at all

choosing online happens way after the chainloader is finished

alongside me not doing anything when you click online/lan

[proper dragon]

Well before changing that I would get consistent crashes when pressing Online with Multithreading enabled

No idea why

My guess is it fixes whatever mods threw a fit with initializing somehow

lol

[cinder jolt]

i'm also completly unable to reproduce it alongside nobody else reporting it, so i can't really debug the issue lol

[proper dragon]

If it makes you feel any better almost everytime it did crash Emblem threw an error

XD

[proper dragon]

I would imagine I know why

Most people using SoundAPI used CustomSounds/LCSoundTool before

So that setting would have been changed to true by those

Cus as I said changing that is what fixed it for me, and I changed it because @pine gale said it's better to have that setting set to true

[cinder jolt]

well i've got that setting to false so :3

[proper dragon]

I mean I probably just have some mod that got angry with Multithreading and it's set to initialize in a weird way when that setting is set to false

lol

From what I understand plugins and stuff load much more gracefully when it's set to true

so said mod no longer had reason to be angy

XD

Now what that mod is idk

prob Emblem tbh

[cinder jolt]

i was also unable to reproduce it with your modpack so no clue

[proper dragon]

Since it threw an error when the game crashed

[proper dragon]

Of course, you're the mod dev the issue never wants to repro for you

c;

[fiery arrow]

@cinder jolt Any idea when you'll have time to update soundapi?

[cinder jolt]

not soon

[fiery arrow]

@cinder jolt Apparently this just doesn't want to. It plays one singular gravel sound correctly, then it kills itself and every other sound connected to the player, even ones from other jsons

    "replacements": [
        {
            "matches": [
            "MovementAudio:Gravel1",
            "MovementAudio:Gravel2",
            "MovementAudio:Gravel3",
            "MovementAudio:Gravel4",
            "MaskedPlayerEnemy:MovementSFX:Gravel1",
            "MaskedPlayerEnemy:MovementSFX:Gravel2",
            "MaskedPlayerEnemy:MovementSFX:Gravel3",
            "MaskedPlayerEnemy:MovementSFX:Gravel4",
            ],
            "sounds": [
                {
                    "sound": "player/Footsteps/StepGravelV2Outside1.ogg",
                    "condition": {
                    "type": "or",
                    "conditions": [
                            {
                            "type": "LethalCompany:player_location",
                            "value": "outside"
                            },
                            {
                            "type": "LethalCompany:player_location",
                            "value": "on_ship"
                            }
                        ]
                    },
                    "weight": 1
                },
                {
                    "sound": "player/Footsteps/StepGravelV2_1.ogg",
                    "condition": {
                    "type": "LethalCompany:player_location",
                    "value": "inside"
                    },
                    "weight": 1
                },
            ]
        }
    ]
}```

[cinder jolt]

yeah that's what update every frame does ATM lol

[pine gale]

is this for movement sounds?

[fiery arrow]

yaeh

[pine gale]

i saw someone made an api for that

[cinder jolt]

basically it will stop replacing all sounds on that

[fiery arrow]

But why

[pine gale]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/SolidStone/SolidLib/

[cinder jolt]

and follow only what's in that group

[pine gale]

this is specifically for his minecraft moon but i think it can work for other stuff? not sure

[cinder jolt]

it doesn't properly undo that cause I only did it for Meltdown replacements lol

[cinder jolt]

that's not what jacuj is trying to do :3

[fiery arrow]

Fix pls

[pine gale]

jacuj should perish then

[cinder jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/602207979105681451/1236185543730270249/image0.gif

I will at some point

[pine gale]

he's busy doing something much cooler for me sorry

it pays to be hot

[fiery arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/wingsofredemption-cant-take-this-shit-no-more-gif-24416548

[proper dragon]

@cinder jolt please for the love of god

Add an option to disable your shitty logs

Lol

I'm sorry but they flood it

XD

[cinder jolt]

cry about it :3

[proper dragon]

It makes it really hard to sift through logs and try to find errors

lol

[fiery arrow]

Procrastinating much?

[proper dragon]

Literally just need that NONE option for the logging

[fiery arrow]

tactical non-functionality

[deep mason]

I also have many crash when pressing online (my bepinex hidemanagergameobject IS on false) so do you recommend disabling multithreading or set hidemanager on true ?

Last Time i checked setting it on true caused issue with some mods for me so idk

[proper dragon]

Keep HideManagerGameObject set to false, if you get crashes when pressing Online I would remove Dantors Mental Hospital if you have it, that was what was causing them for me in the end

[cinder jolt]

i politely am going to murder you

[wanton pine]

https://github.com/LoafOrc/loaforcsSoundAPI/pull/11

[hollow basin]

😭

[manic heron]

please

[cinder jolt]

yeah so the live version on thunderstore already has logging levels

ig I just haven't pushed that to GitHub

it's just like 1 log that I forgot to move over

[proper dragon]

Please push that pr lol, I've been using LessLogs to disable the debug log spam

XD

[cinder jolt]

not how that works lol it's not that easy (also given that pr is based on old code, means it's physically impossible for me to merge it)

[proper dragon]

LessLogs does disable them, I set your API specifically to be Fatal, Error, Warning XD

[cinder jolt]

i meant with the pr

[proper dragon]

Fair

[cinder jolt]

@fiery arrow

[fiery arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-thumbs-up-kid-thumbs-up-meme-brent-ramobjust-gif-19399510

[cinder jolt]

okay im going to sleep now

nothing will explode

rtust

[fiery arrow]

So looping sounds follow percentages?

[proper dragon]

@cinder jolt your update

is fucking

broken

[merry sedge]

broken good or broken bad?

[proper dragon]

Broken bad

Error spam

galore

[hasty dune]

Missing a single source == null check lol

https://github.com/LoafOrc/loaforcsSoundAPI/pull/12

that PR should fix it

[fiery arrow]

Classic loaf

[manic heron]

oh you silly sausage

[hollow basin]

“okay im going to sleep now
nothing will explode
rtust”

in bongo, we rtust

[cinder jolt]

yeah thank you, really appricate your hostility

its a problem with more company it seems

would really help if you could like, test only soundapi before jumping down my throat

[proper dragon]

Lol I wasn't trying to be hosile it came off wrong in text

I apologize it came off that way

I wasn't being hostile towards you at all

I have to realize some people aren't used to the way I say things 😅 I was trying to be a bit humorous not hostile

[proper dragon]

@cinder jolt For what it's worth we all love you and all the work you do ^^ I'm sorry my message came off as hostile lol I was more so finding it funny at the time the logs were being blown up as much as they were XD

So I was cursing in a light hearted way

It just came off wrong

😦

[cinder jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thumbs-up-cat-thumbs-up-meme-stock-image-gif-27117830

[proper dragon]

@cinder jolt Got another thing spamming the log now

Happened during solo testing

@hasty dune do you know what this one is?

lol

Btw @cinder jolt I guess I should say, it started spamming that after I broke a door open with DoorBreach, it's definitely an issue with SoundAPI 1.1.1 even though it doesn't explicitly seem to mention it

[hasty dune]

I believe that this warning shows up because an audio source is trying to play but has no audio attached. There's a number of causes, but one of them can be adding an audio source at runtime on an active object, as that will instantly try to play an audio clip that doesn't exist due to the default settings of audio sources. I'd have to read deeper into the code to figure it out, and it could definitely be caused by another mod spawning in an invalid audio source

it could be sound api, but it could also be the interior, DoorBreach, or another mod entirely

[proper dragon]

Maybe but this didn't happen earlier

Also it was a Vanilla Interior on Junic lol

[hasty dune]

there's still a lot of variables at play. With large modpacks, any number of things could cause an issue like that. Unity doesn't give us enough information to tell for certain what the cause might be

[proper dragon]

Well I can test by downgrading SoundAPI and if it happens again it may be a bug from me adding HarvestMoons

We'll see

[hasty dune]

I'm not seeing anything specific to SoundAPI that would trigger that warning. It seems to handle audio sources correctly as far as I can tell. Another mod is probably setting up an audio source incorrectly, causing that warning to be generated

It could be a mod that interacts with SoundAPI, or SoundAPI might be triggering the audio source before it's ready, but the only way that would really happen is if another mod is doing something incorrectly when using SoundAPI

if I could actually connect the Unity debugger and recreate the warning, I could check the stacktrace and maybe see what's causing it to play, but the Unity debugger doesn't like to connect with FixPluginTypesSerialization, which is a dependency for LLL, and most other content adding mods

[proper dragon]

@cinder jolt I got the problem

I turned on I'm going to lose it

It's definitely SoundAPI, looks like it gets stuck looping and then Unity throws a fit

[hasty dune]

that message is coming from the same section that was producing the errors before. It's trying to play an audio clip on an audio source that doesn't have a clip assigned to it, which is also what's causing the warning in the other log

SoundAPI should probably check for that and not play it just to prevent the warning spam, but it's indicative of another mod spawning audio sources without proper audio clips

[proper dragon]

The issue is it doesn't happen with 1.0.12

and it seems to happen anytime a door is unlocked or gets lockpicked

[hasty dune]

yeah it wouldn't happen with older versions

only the latest version has the code that does that

it's an issue with another mod, but SoundAPI not null checking it is compounding the issue

[proper dragon]

Ahhhh

[hasty dune]

I can send you a compiled version of this PR that should fix it

although I dunno if thunderstore/r2modman codes work with custom mod versions

actually, I can test that really easily lol

[proper dragon]

I just wonder what mod might be doing it lmao, I'll have to test later

[hasty dune]

ok yeah r2modman overrides the DLL if I replace it manually
oh well, it does make sense though
also it looks like 1.1.1 has the same fix as that PR, so I'll just close it now

[cinder jolt]

wow lmao looks like the issue is:
have a sound on loop
then a playOnAwake sound or calling Play()
with a null audio clip
why do people do these things 😭

[proper dragon]

I'm gonna guess the mod causing the problem is either

@pastel sigil's MalfunctioningDoors mod

or GhostCodes' features to lock and unlock doors

[pastel sigil]

You're saying my mod is messing with audio??

[proper dragon]

I'm not certain on it just guessing it's your mod or GhostCodes cus they touch the door locking mechanic

[cinder jolt]

don't blame other people like that 😭

[proper dragon]

Oh no I'm not trying to

Those are just the only 2 mods in my pack that I'm guessing are doing it

I need to test still

it could be a completely unrelated mod lol

I feel like my Autism makes things come off the wrong way sometimes lol

[pastel sigil]

Locking the door doesn't even play a sound though 🤔

[proper dragon]

Then what is causing that error spam?

It happens when a door

Unlocks

Dunno why

Whether it be by doorbreach or one of the doors auto unlocking

That's when it freaks out

Gonna manually import the new build you pushed and test it @cinder jolt

@cinder jolt Btw a compatibility problem dunno if it's your fault though or if flip needs to fix this

But TooManyEmotes audio doesn't loop anymore

[fiery arrow]

double pinge

[proper dragon]

Ik It's cus I'm testing 1.1.2

[proper dragon]

Ummm @cinder jolt

Disabled a turret and it's stuck making the firing sound

LOL

[fiery arrow]

Isnt that a vanilla bug?

[proper dragon]

No

It was disabled before firing

While turned off it started playing the firing sound

and never stopped til it saw me

SoundAPI be buggy after 1.0.12

XD

[fiery arrow]

But it happened right here
https://medal.tv/es/games/lethal-company/clips/i4mbNps32fRX9Z_83/d13376iv9Azt?invite=cr-MSx2RFIsMjM5ODY0MjU3LA

[proper dragon]

That's different

What happened for me is like I said

It was not firing when I turned it off

It did not see me

It started playing the firing sound randomly when off

[fiery arrow]

The game had to have triggered the shooting sound for soundapi to play it

[proper dragon]

Look at the spam it gave

Check the log

[fiery arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/wesker-albert-albert-wesker-resident-evil-resident-evil-4-gif-5143688443782660001

[fiery arrow]

Nevermind, guess it is a soundapi thing #1197391708816679002 message

[cinder jolt]

ahh bomberclat

i think i know whats causing that lol

[fiery arrow]

Dude just start uploading beta versions to github at this point

[cinder jolt]

be silly :3

also i think i fixed the multithreading too much

actually thats wrong lmao

okay that seems more correct

[proper dragon]

Did you also find out why TME was breaking?

[cinder jolt]

no im fixing multithreading first

[proper dragon]

Lol you got this

[hollow basin]

wait a minute, since when u got the same last name as xu?

[cinder jolt]

:3

[proper dragon]

They've been dating for a while now. I think Bongo just finally changed his name to make it Obvious

The pfp's alone have been giving it away XD

[hollow basin]

OH yeah that makes sense xD

[cinder jolt]

:3

[cinder jolt]

with all the config options on :3

[proper dragon]

Yay Multithreading is making sense again

[cinder jolt]

@proper dragon it all good if i dm you a test build so i can get make sure the new new new multithreading doesnt explode?

[proper dragon]

Sure, I'm guessing the best way would be to find a turret and try disabling it again?

XD

[cinder jolt]

oh my god im going to implode

im actually going to lose it

[manic heron]

did you change the spacing 😳

[cinder jolt]

turns out actually running the looping code might help

[pastel sigil]

[pine gale]

write better code ez

[cinder jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/ihl-gear-neco-arc-gif-26313697

[pastel sigil]

I think you should try that too, Xu

[pine gale]

Not trynna hear that from you, putting a while true loop in an enemy

Don't forget to 0 null checks in there too

[pastel sigil]

Not sure where you're getting that from 😅

[pastel sigil]

That on the other hand, I might be guilty of (sometimes)

[pine gale]

The puffer poison

[pastel sigil]

Oh... That one 😅

Yeah... Kinda forget to update that mod that removes the while loop 😅

[proper dragon]

Speaking of, don't forget to update TestAccountFixes to fix it constantly looking for Television Controller per frame

That's not even a dependency

lol

[pastel sigil]

But a soft dependency.

Fixes compatibility with that mod

But yeah, there's no reason for it to check for it every frame

[proper dragon]

Yeah

Lmfao

Testy moment

Also yeah please fix Poison Puffer

I still remember when that nuked my game

XD

[hasty dune]

so I have all of one singular sound file I'm adding to the game for my mod
Lunxara mentioned that LC Sound Tool is a slower and less efficient than loaforcs, so I was wondering what the differences really are and how much of a difference loaforcs would make compared to LC Sound Tool

[pine gale]

doesnt it say the differences in the lethal wiki?

[hasty dune]

uhh

good point

lemme check

I don't see anything about loaforcs in the wiki

[pine gale]

hmm

i coulda sworn there was a section for it

gimme a sec

[prime jackal]

I don't think there ever was a page for it on lethal wiki

you should bully Bongo to make a pr for lethal wiki for the api

[hasty dune]

[prime jackal]

oh, but this exists https://github.com/LoafOrc/loaforcsSoundAPI/wiki

[proper dragon]

@cinder jolt So we were playing and footstep audio randomly stopped working

Haven't had that happen in a long time

You might wanna see if you can find anything, I see a lot of cannot play disabled sound messages

[cinder jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/ihl-gear-neco-arc-gif-26313697

[hasty dune]

anyways, in terms of performance, is loaforcs generally the way to go at this point?

or is LCSoundTool comparable, with loaforcs having more features

[cinder jolt]

yes sound api is just better at this point

lcsoundtool has quite a few game breaking issues (can ask the lethal resonance guys for the fun they had)

The only part it's worse in is tutorials

[hasty dune]

ight, I'll prob change over to it at some point then
it's not the main focus of my mod, just nice to have

[hasty dune]

I didn't even use tutorials for LCSoundTool

[cinder jolt]

:3

[hasty dune]

:3

[hollow basin]

this is bias from the creator themselves!

[hollow basin]

so there’s no tutorials or not that much?

or the tutorial is pinging u and asking how to do it 😲

[merry sedge]

It's a "Little" bit harder that lcsoundtool

[hollow basin]

🤏

how hard can it be?

[cinder jolt]

@pine gale is definetnly an unbiased second opinon

[hollow basin]

ah yes of course! what does this unbiased second opinion have to say about sound api?

[pine gale]

Amazing api

[cinder jolt]

exactly

[fiery arrow]

Third unbiased opinion; amazing api

Here’s a fourth unbiased opinion

[mortal nymph]

fifth unbiased opinion: sound api is fire

[pine gale]

6th unbiased opinion: i hate sound api, it's BAD

[cinder jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-gif-23674110

[proper dragon]

You hate your partner's mod? This seems like a pretty abusive relationship 🤔

XD

[pine gale]

he likes it

[cinder jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/ihl-gear-neco-arc-gif-26313697

[dark crypt]

First biased opinion: bad, so bad, no like, kill

[pine gale]

You'll never be happy ever again

[cinder jolt]

🙏

[fiery arrow]

perfectly mentally stable naming schemes

[pastel sigil]

Just quick question...

Is the trigger in front of that door supposed to make my pc explode or is that a bug? 😅

[pine gale]

how is this sound api?

@pastel sigil

[pastel sigil]

The trigger doesn't exist without it installed 🤷

[cinder jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/ihl-gear-neco-arc-gif-26313697

i dont know what to tell you then

soundapi barely does anything with lethal company, its all unity lol

[vernal leaf]

aye, the newest update makes this error pop up and cant update

[leaden willow]

Same thing for me too

[proper dragon]

It's because by default Windows doesn't have Long File Path support, you can downgrade, you can execute a PowerShell command to enable Long File Path support or you can be patient and wait for Bongo to fix it

It's something Bongo needs to fix really

[vernal leaf]

oh I see I see

[proper dragon]

@cinder jolt 👋

[pine gale]

He already knows

[proper dragon]

Oh I know I was waving to him cus I saw him come Online while we were chatting in the thread XD

[cinder jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-gif-3672785827050800275

[proper dragon]

There he is lol

[proper dragon]

For what it's worth DiFFoZ doesn't understand why you're having Long File Path issues because he's also making use of zString stuff and hasn't ran into the same problem so I believe you'll figure it out. I'm hoping it's a simple fix ^^

[empty tundra]

which version of SoundAPI is recommended to downgrade to?

[cinder jolt]

none

1.1.6 is fixed

[vernal leaf]

[heavy mist]

## When using only a config loaforcsSoundAPI will be able to skip loading some sounds. This means mods that let you change config mid-game will not take affect until a restart.
# Setting type: Boolean
# Default value: true
SkipLikelyUnusedSounds = true

'When using only a config'.. wdym?
When using only one config? So when I set this to false I can change soundpack (LR) config mid-game, the changes will apply but loading sounds during startup takes slightly longer? Am I getting this right?

[cinder jolt]

YEAH

caps lol

and it'll use more memory

[fiery arrow]

But when can I hotload sounds?

[cinder jolt]

I was thinking about it but I have no clue how hard that'll break things

[fiery arrow]

@cinder jolt Seems like some sounds are constantly destroying the logs

[cinder jolt]

could you try with losing it logging?

[fiery arrow]

Will later

[cinder jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thumbs-up-cat-thumbs-up-meme-stock-image-gif-27117830

[fiery arrow]

And now there's constant heartbeat going on :3

[cinder jolt]

:3

[fiery arrow]

Seems losing it logging stops it from happening

[cinder jolt]

fun

[fiery arrow]

I take it back, it still happens

[cinder jolt]

[fiery arrow]

Yeah theres some weird stuff happening with looping sounds

[fiery arrow]

So im trying to replace the radio music on the car, and its not syncing up between players. This a LC thing or soundapi thing?

[cinder jolt]

it'll be soundapi

the randomness setting doesn't do anything anymore

[fiery arrow]

Then what should I do

[cinder jolt]

im not entirely sure on how i want to handle sync lol

[fiery arrow]

How long has it not done anything for?

[proper dragon]

So you nuked Deterministic?

XD

[cinder jolt]

since 1.0 i think

[fiery arrow]

Well either add deterministic back as a legacy setting or get something else. Not having it will be a nightmare for people using my mod

[proper dragon]

I mean this will also fuck with LR too, LR uses deterministic for a lot of sounds

XD

[cinder jolt]

even the scan sounds 😅

(they should not be doign that lmao)

[proper dragon]

Yeah idk why they use deterministic for that

[fiery arrow]

Thats moroxide for you, but point being sycned sounds is pretty important

[proper dragon]

They also for some reason

Include vanilla sounds in some cases

Which is dumb

Because you're adding a sound that already exists in the game again making that load into ram

Like the Breaker Box sound for example

it's not even replaced

It reuses the vanilla sound

[fiery arrow]

CS does "Sync the Unity randomization seed with all players". Think that's a better option?

[cinder jolt]

maybe idk

[fiery arrow]

Technically speaking it should be, compared to deterministic anyway

[proper dragon]

I mean anything that's more optimized than deterministic would be better tbh

[fiery arrow]

Another looping bug, jester doesnt jester

[proper dragon]

This explains why we had a Jester manage to run outside yesterday pissed on Titan but noone ever heard it winding and warned us lol

[fiery arrow]

When you get to updating i'd appreciate a toggle for randomizing looping sounds. Sometimes I just want them to randomize on load, be it game or just a new moon

[mortal nymph]

lunxara suddenly starting having this issue with mirage, where audio clips are suddenly stuck at a length of 0:

ArgumentException: Length of created clip must be larger than 0
  at UnityEngine.AudioClip.Create

is it possible that soundapi is causing this? i kinda doubt it, but i just wanted to ask anyways since soundapi did have an update a day ago

trying to pinpoint what mod could be breaking mirage rn

[cinder jolt]

nah I don't touch any audio clips not created by soundapi

[mortal nymph]

thought so

thanks for the confirmation

[proper dragon]

Yeah we found out it's SolidLib because SolidLib is touching audio, it was just bad coincidence that we readded SoundAPI the same day Solid updated SolidLib lol

Sorry for the trouble bud 💜 It's great to have SoundAPI in the pack again without bugs

[proper dragon]

Actually I'm wondering if it might be SoundAPI here's the weird thing, disabling SolidLib made the errors go away at least in my solo tests

But

Enemies won't use my voice at all

Gonna try disabling it and finding out

It does log that it's mimicing the voices

But the lines aren't playing

This is so odd

Lol

We're bordering on Mirage somehow being broken but we don't know why

Yeah it's not SoundAPI

Confirmed that

Mirage just seems to be dead somehow

[pine gale]

Soldlib adds like a million gameobjecta to play sounds and never gets rid of them afaik

[proper dragon]

Yeah it's not SolidLib or SoundAPI idk what it is

It's weird how the issue is sudden though

[mortal nymph]

you gotta stop making assumptions like this 😛 it wasn't even confirmed at the time

too quick to put the blame on specific mods when it's not confirmed

anyways it was confirmed to be an issue from #1253705079605956640

[proper dragon]

Barch it was because the errors stopped logging with SolidLib disabled.

It was just unfortunate is all

[proper dragon]

I know cus DiFFoZ was reproing it on a small pack and discovered it

[mortal nymph]

that doesnt mean it's confirmed though, all im saying is to be careful with saying it's a mod at fault if it's not confirmed

just gotta change your wording a bit

[proper dragon]

Yeah I know I apologize, I said that when DiFFoZ sounded certain it was probably SolidLib before he found out it was his mod and disabling SolidLib got rid of the errors which didn't help. It was a very strange bug for sure that I couldn't explain lol

[fiery arrow]

@cinder jolt I think error logging might be broken. A json is failing to load, but the log shows no errors

[cinder jolt]

nope

if there is a problem, its with a library which i use, which i doubt, and also can't fix

[fiery arrow]

It used to drop an error showing what line and character it failed to parse at, but now it just reports it as succesfully loaded

[cinder jolt]

maybe unitask being dumb then? try with multithreading disabled?

[fiery arrow]

Yeah that did it. Odd

[cinder jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/ihl-gear-neco-arc-gif-26313697

[fiery arrow]

problem two electric boogaloo, update every frame still breaks after the first check

[cinder jolt]

[fiery arrow]

Can fix soon or do I scrap the idea for now

[cinder jolt]

I have no clue what could even be going wrong

[fiery arrow]

Literally no idea what could be causing this, but whatever it is is preventing the whole thing from loading @cinder jolt

Parameter name: key
Stack trace:
System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2[TKey,TValue].FindEntry (TKey key) (at <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:0)
System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2[TKey,TValue].get_Item (TKey key) (at <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:0)
loaforcsSoundAPI.API.Conditonal.Setup (loaforcsSoundAPI.Data.SoundReplaceGroup group, Newtonsoft.Json.Linq.JObject settings) (at ./API/Conditonal.cs:20)
loaforcsSoundAPI.Data.SoundReplacementCollection..ctor (loaforcsSoundAPI.Data.SoundReplaceGroup group, Newtonsoft.Json.Linq.JObject data) (at ./Data/SoundReplacementCollection.cs:19)
loaforcsSoundAPI.Data.SoundReplaceGroup..ctor (loaforcsSoundAPI.Data.SoundPack pack, Newtonsoft.Json.Linq.JObject data) (at ./Data/SoundReplaceGroup.cs:37)
loaforcsSoundAPI.Data.SoundPack.ParseReplacer (System.String replacer) (at ./Data/SoundPack.cs:158)
loaforcsSoundAPI.Data.SoundPack.QueueLoad () (at ./Data/SoundPack.cs:125)
loaforcsSoundAPI.SoundPlugin.Awake () (at ./SoundPlugin.cs:92)
UnityEngine.GameObject:AddComponent(Type)
BepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader:Start()
UnityEngine.InputSystem.InputSystem:.cctor()```

[cinder jolt]

Mis spelt condition maybe?

[fiery arrow]

Copy pasted everything, shouldnt be...

[fiery arrow]

@cinder jolt How exactly does this feature work?

[cinder jolt]

if a replacer json file has only a config for its condition, i check if that config is enabled and if it isn't i just stop processing it all together

[fiery arrow]

Does that apply to the entire json or any sound with a config?

[cinder jolt]

well it only checks the replacer's condition

{
  "condition": { "type": "config", "key or whatever": ":3" }, // only this is checked
  "sounds": { //...
  }
}

[fiery arrow]

Would it be possible to check for any config condition? even in the sounds themselves

[cinder jolt]

yeah but it would require extra work from you. because there wouldn't be a way to tell a condition that is used to swap tracks (e.g. meltdown audios) or enable/disable it from loading

[fiery arrow]

What if it's a unique function just for the purpose of disabling a sound if a specific config is turned on/off

[cinder jolt]

yeah it'll probably be like another condition that you wrap it in, or a property os smth

[fiery arrow]

LR uses a ton of ram as is, so a little extra work to free that up won't be a problem

[long zenith]

I've been working on porting my existing mod over to this api, but the process has been quite baffling. Regardless of the matches in the log and the master audio list and even using a *, the sound I have for the airhorn just doesn't work. I got cash registers working by removing the game object, however it seems like others like lockpickers, jetpacks, and easter eggs don't do the same.

[fiery arrow]

It should still be this

[long zenith]

even when like that, it doesn't work

[long zenith]

turns out just because I had it as "ClownHornFar" instead of "*:ClownHornFar", the api wouldn't even load anything past that

changed it to the latter fixed it

[fiery arrow]

Nothing is playing here, and I haven't a clue why

[fiery arrow]

Nevermind, I had a missing gameobject in a completely different replacer. Some of these error messages are totally useless man...

[pastel sigil]

So... For some reason, sounds don't always get replaced for the whoopie cushion 🤔

{
    "replacements": [
        {
            "matches": [
                "ComedyGoldPrefab:FartSFX1",
                "ComedyGoldPrefab:FartSFX2",
                "ComedyGoldPrefab:FartSFX3",
                "ComedyGoldPrefab:FartSFX4",
                "ComedyGoldPrefab:FartSFX5",
                "ComedyGoldPrefab:FartSFX6",
                "WhoopieCushion:Fart1",
                "WhoopieCushion:Fart2",
                "WhoopieCushion:Fart3",
                "WhoopieCushion:Fart4",
                "WhoopieCushion:Fart5",
            ],
            "sounds": [
                {
                    "sound": "VineBoom.wav"
                }
            ]
        }
    ]
}

[proper dragon]

Pathing structure is wrong

[pastel sigil]

What do you mean?

I copied the sound names straight out of my log file

[proper dragon]

The last sound under matches has a comma

try removing it

So it should be just "WhoopieCushion:Fart5"

[pastel sigil]

Shouldn't cause any issues, but I'll have a look <t:1724189251:R>

[proper dragon]

no comma

[fiery arrow]

Its technically not supposed to be there, but afaik soundapi automatically removes it while parsing

Though there are no other errors in it, which is why even im confused on it not working

Well this is weird, I copied that script and it works perfectly for me...

@pastel sigil When you get the time, try turning multithreading on/off I guess?

[pastel sigil]

Tried that already

[plush scarab]

[Error : Unity Log] IndexOutOfRangeException: Index was outside the bounds of the array. Stack trace: loaforcsSoundAPI.Data.SoundReplacementCollection.RegisterWithMatch (System.String matchString) (at ./Data/SoundReplacementCollection.cs:63) loaforcsSoundAPI.Data.SoundReplacementCollection..ctor (loaforcsSoundAPI.Data.SoundReplaceGroup group, Newtonsoft.Json.Linq.JObject data) (at ./Data/SoundReplacementCollection.cs:23) loaforcsSoundAPI.Data.SoundReplaceGroup..ctor (loaforcsSoundAPI.Data.SoundPack pack, Newtonsoft.Json.Linq.JObject data) (at ./Data/SoundReplaceGroup.cs:37) loaforcsSoundAPI.Data.SoundPack.ParseReplacer (System.String replacer) (at ./Data/SoundPack.cs:158) loaforcsSoundAPI.Data.SoundPack.QueueLoad () (at ./Data/SoundPack.cs:125) loaforcsSoundAPI.SoundPlugin.Awake () (at ./SoundPlugin.cs:92) UnityEngine.GameObject:AddComponent(Type) BepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader:Start() UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.HDRenderPipelineAsset:OnEnable()
what does this error mean?

[cinder jolt]

you've (or a mod you've downloaded) incorrectly formatted the matches field

[plush scarab]

im trying to make a sound pack

[cinder jolt]

you should have the devlopment logs enabled and it should say which file its trying to read before it errors, can you send that one

[plush scarab]

hold on ill generate a log

its trying to read this replacer

[plush scarab]

yeah?

[cinder jolt]

matches should be "*:LeapScreamV2", soundapi requires you expliclty tell it to match like this (doing this too much can cause issues with matching incorrectly), you should techincally replace * with the correct game object name but it should be fine

[plush scarab]

ok!

thx

[jagged iron]

I have a question as a consumer. What does multithreading do?
I heard it can cause issues with loading the game on some machines. However, if I disable the option one of two sound mods in my pack ceases functioning (LethalResonance and PowerSounds, no overlapping configs; Power stops playing sounds with multithreading off).
Wondering if that's intentional behaviour or a fault on either the API or the mod.

[cinder jolt]

multithreading does cause crashes cause of unity stuff, i think its more common on less powerful computers. it almost definitely should not be causing sound packs to behave differently whether it is enabled or not

[plush scarab]

uhh.. do you know what the error i made is?

[cinder jolt]

you forgot to add a closing bracket and semi colon here

[plush scarab]

ohh

[proper dragon]

Happens regardless of pc, I have a high end system and it happens lol

Just to help you out here

:3

[jagged iron]

Got it, I'll bring it up with the modder then, thanks for the answer

[proper dragon]

LethalResonance just makes it the most likely cus it has so many sounds

[static lance]

Is it possible to have sounds not play depending on the moon? For example, I would like to disable ambient music / time-of-day cues on Embrion because that moon has its own ambience which i'm replacing with a song

[cinder jolt]

https://github.com/LoafOrc/loaforcsSoundAPI/wiki/Lethal-Company-Conditions#moon_name this is about the syntax you need

[static lance]

woah i didnt know about that page, thanks!

[fiery arrow]

You can get pretty specific with it

(This specific script would result in "AmbienceMansionRareDiagetic" playing when the dungeon is Mansion or a modded moon. You can also future proof this by having Level4Flow, Level5Flow, Level6Flow... Entries, since that seems to be Zeekers' dungeon naming scheme)

[plush scarab]

I need help with replacing the cruiser eject sound

It has the same name as the coilhead sound

[fiery arrow]

No?

[plush scarab]

Spring1.ogg for the coilhead, Spring1.ogg for the cruiser spring. is it not?

[fiery arrow]

Technically, but you can specify which instance to replace by adding the audiosource

[plush scarab]

i dont know how to find the audiosource

[fiery arrow]

It will appear in the log when the sound is played ingame

Assuming you have logging set to extended or that other option

[plush scarab]

ok..

thank you

[sleek dew]

What's that sound? When I'm outside in any weather, I constantly trigger

When inside the complex everything is fine

[fiery arrow]

Probably the experimental looping handling breaking

[plush scarab]

can someone please tell me what is wrong with this package? why do the folders disappear?

everything is fine.

when i upload the mod, every file in any folder get moved out and the folder gets deleted and i am so frustrated and i

[long zenith]

i think it's the file structure, as it's supposed to be BepInEx -> plugins - > BulterMoai

[plush scarab]

uhh?

[long zenith]

you don't need to move the other files into the plugins folder, just the folder of the mod itself
follow this file structure

CustomSounds being ButlerMoai

[plush scarab]

ohh

[plush scarab]

It finally functioned

[fiery arrow]

Can I have your mod list? Our lobby is getting it without soundapi and I want to cross-compare

[sleek dew]

Sec

[sleek dew]

0192c3ec-6c08-4c02-9e54-73ae50e8a91d

I may not have noticed this lag of sound outside in the weather before, or maybe after updating the game, but this is very strange. then I will check each mod separately

[fiery arrow]

We're pretty certain its emergency dice, testing now

[sleek dew]

It's interesting, but it was recently updated and this problem just started

[fiery arrow]

It and v66 were the only changes made to our pack

Since there are no reports in DPT, I doubt its a vanilla issue

[proper dragon]

It's OpenBodyCams' update

We isolated it

It's been very frustrating to say the least

[proper dragon]

Hope this solves your issue

[static lance]

I appreciate you sending that, made things fairly easy for a while. I was able to get a sound replacing StartOfDay on Assurance & Offense, but then when I tried replacing the same sound on different moons with something else it all stopped working. I feel like I don't understand what the structure is supposed to be but it seemed right to me

[sleek dew]

Great, I'll check it out today!

[sleek dew]

Everything is fixed, thank you!

[fiery arrow]

You can only have one matcher of the same type active at a time. Both sounds need to be chained under the first matcher. Having multiple sounds under one matcher means you need a weight value as well, which you can just slap on before or after the condition.
Also you forgot to add a ] to the end of the script

You can look at my picture for the structure again. Notice I have a second sound under the matcher that has no condition and just a high weight value

[static lance]

🙏 got it, tysm!

[sleek dew]

I broke something and now the game does not restart when the quota ends...

What does the error refer to?

[cinder jolt]

it looks like you are trying to refer to a config that you haven't set up

[sleek dew]

How is that?

didn't understand :с

way to sound?

[cinder jolt]

in your sound_pack.json file you need to define the config values you are going to use

[sleek dew]

ah, I understand

I'll try to fix it

[sleek dew]

I didn't succeed(

What does the configuration value mean?

Everything seems to be correct... :с

[cinder jolt]

no? your sound_pack.json just has no mention of the config value, e.g. should have
"EnabledSounds:ship_eject_alarm": {
"description": "description goes here",
"default": true
}
also im confused are you using LR as a base? or modifying it for personal use?

[sleek dew]

I used LR as a base, removing unnecessary sounds + replacing some like ship_eject_alarm with another sound

They did their job well, for that I am grateful to them + learned

stop

he should use all the sounds from Ship

Why should I write this "EnabledSounds:ship_eject_alarm": { ?

If such a folder doesn't even exist

I figured it out...

Yes, I understand, I shouldn’t have deleted the unnecessary stuff then

@cinder jolt thanks :3

[fiery arrow]

I'm good with people making modifications, but please mention that it's based off LR on the thunderstore page

[sleek dew]

yes I already understood that

It’s just that everything used to go through the ship

and now we’ve added the paths separately

[fiery arrow]

A bit besides the point but... alright

[sleek dew]

I'm sorry(

[long zenith]

In a future update, it would be nice if the experimental looping sounds config can be set to apply to individual replacers

It's mainly so I dont have to double or triple the length of some files

[sleek dew]

It spams every time, but I seem to have turned off custom sounds...

[fiery arrow]

You removed old bird footsteps from soundpack.json, but one of your replacers has a reference to it

[sleek dew]

What does it warn you every time?... Console spam is constant...

[proper dragon]

This has nothing to do with SoundAPI

[barren perch]

hello, i don't know if it's the right place to ask that but here i go. I started to do a sound pack yesterday with loaforcs sound API for when I'm playing with my friends. I've put it on thunderstore and github. When i'm downloading it from github and install it manually it works. When i'm installing it from the thunderstore (via offline or online installer it breaks and by breaking i mean the directory tree is f-ed up smh (shown on screens bellow, it should be downloaded like on the first and second screen but ends up like on the third one ^^' ) any idea on how can i fix that?

I mean the easiest way to fix that is by just asking people to install it manually but explaning to each group i play with how to do it will be tedious

[sleek dew]

This is how it should be packaged when uploaded to the site

And when downloaded from the application, it is automatically unpacked to

[barren perch]

i'm pretty sure that's what i was doing when i did upload it to thunderstore

i went and select all the files/directories (in my case the directory with replacers/sounds/sound_pack.json and the required files like manifest.json, changelog.md, LICENSE and icon.png) put it in a zip file and send it to thunderstore

unless there's something i didn't understood (like when doing a mod you have to pack the whole BepInEx and send it to thunderstore)

[barren perch]

bruh after messing arround it's really like that
welp thanks for the help it helped me find out why my thingy was working!

btw while i'm in here, anyone knows the match name for the mineshaft elevator jingle? i look through the whole wiki and only found LC_Office elevator name

[fiery arrow]

ElevatorJingle:ElevatorJingle

if you don't know a source, you can change the logging level in SoundAPI's config and it will list anything found in the console.

The wiki is still in v50, it's a pain in the ass to keep up to date

[barren perch]

👌 tyvm!

[cinder jolt]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/loaforc/loaforcsSoundAPI_Beta/

[proper dragon]

Let's gooooo

Did you manage to fix the issues Jacu ran into when he was testing it in my lobby earlier btw? I imagine he brought it up to you ^^

[cinder jolt]

nope

your profile completly freezes my computer so i think its beyond saving

[proper dragon]

my profile shouldn't do that to you regardless since none of the mods erroring were moons and interiors you could likely disable those and see if you get progress ^^

I'd also use Gale if you aren't already, my profile has way less issues with Gale since Gale is what I use as my mod manager, it usually works okay with R2 but R2 takes ages to load and import it

I'll try manually importing it and see if I get any errors

[cinder jolt]

ive used gale since like before it had the direct launch mode so

[proper dragon]

Ah okay ^^ wasn't sure if you used it or not lol

Oh hot damn

That performance increase

Anyways I have no issues hosting a lobby

But I know Jacu had issues joining as a client, for shiggles gonna test if I get problems if UniTask is enabled

Since it's no longer needed but it would have existed when he was testing

Still no issues

Well 2 clients in lan work for me just fine so

idk

LOL

[cinder jolt]

yeah its almost certainly not soundapi

[proper dragon]

Maybe some weird issue cus he was using V2 and I had UniTask and the Legacy version idk

We'll see today cus I'm adding the new version in

[proper dragon]

Gonna update my mods to use V2 as a dependency, the optimizations are worth it to get people off the legacy build

[fiery arrow]

It happened 4 times in a row and disabling V2 immediately fixed it so im really confused

Legacy and unitask were disabled too

[merry sedge]

Oh, SoundAPI v2 :0

[long zenith]

[proper dragon]

I had UniTask and SoundAPI v1.1.7 as the host though so if it's not LR do we think it could be an issue where v2 isn't client sided currently or something? I'm just as confused as you are cus 2 lan sessions were fine for me. If you want you could boot up 2 lan sessions and see if it repros when your indev build of LR is present

Make sure you disable Stream Overlays though before booting up 2 lan clients

Or else Stream Overlays just breaks and the client will get voided

Imma inform Crit about that

[fiery arrow]

turns out I cant even host

Good luck @cinder jolt

[proper dragon]

@fiery arrow It looks likt this errored then it just exploded But how?

Oh wait that could be cus you loaded 2 clients

Might be an ignorable error

Okay yeah it gave that error for everything cus you ran 2 clients

lol

[fiery arrow]

yeah I was like "holy fuck that many errors?"

[proper dragon]

Yeah even AsyncLoggers errors when you run 2 clients

lol

[fiery arrow]

Literally just watching two consoles flash with red

[proper dragon]

Did you update TakeyPlush at all before running tests? Cus I see a TakeyPlush error I haven't seen before lol

Might be easier to see what explodes if you run just 1 game session since we know you can't host lol, to get rid of all the other error spam

[thorn mulch]

if i have the beta soundapi installed should i disable the original package? (for now at least)

[fiery arrow]

Having two versions of a mod is not a good idea lol

[thorn mulch]

So yes

[proper dragon]

I would completely remove the original one and UniTask and just use V2

V2 is way more optimized

[thorn mulch]

I'm not gonna remove it cus it will eventually be pushed to stable (and cus modman will complain if it's not there)

I'll just disable them both while using beta

[proper dragon]

@cinder jolt Seems we found the issue, this error gets thrown if you get a failed json parse upon hosting a lobby or joining as a client which then causes other mods that rely hooking into the SceneManager to break leading to the client using the mod with the failed json to get voided likewise you can get voided as a client that doesn't have the mod present

Hosting a lobby is succesful but the error shows up in the console

So chain reaction effect

[thorn mulch]

what is a failed json parse, like is that when it can't find the audioclips or sources you refer to in the jsons

[green flax]

I'd assume parsing referring to how the program reads the .json file, any out-of-spec weirdness with formatting/notation could cause a reader to go "hey this ain't json!"

[proper dragon]

Yeah basically these throw first, then the NRE happens when trying to load or host a lobby

This is from Jacu's logs btw

[cinder jolt]

yeah its because soundapi realises something is wrong but then loads the fucked data anyway because it feels like it

[proper dragon]

That makes sense lol, but figured I would let you know that we tracked the issue down. In a fresh profile of course with just SoundAPI and the broken mod present a client can join fine despite the stack trace throwing since nothing else is trying to hook into the scenemanager. But there's a ton of mods that rely hooking into it such as WeatherRegistry so the second anything that relies on it is present that's when it becomes a problem

[thorn mulch]

is there a reason why beta soundapi doesn't support floats anymore?

one of the weights in my sound replacer was 0.3 which threw an error, and though it's an easy fix i'm just wondering if it's intentional or a temporary thing to be changed later?

[cinder jolt]

that should never have been supported

im fairly certain soundapi was just internally rounding that down to 0 lol

[thorn mulch]

oh weird

probably why i never heard those sounds

thanks for clarifying

[proper dragon]

@cinder jolt Funny looping bug in V2 :3 it's much less common than it was with V1 though if you had Handle Looping Sound enabled https://www.twitch.tv/lunxara/clip/ImpossibleAnimatedTapirSoonerLater-cGtu6w2lTEPZIdxg

[thorn mulch]

got this error with v2 beta, happens while loading into a lobby. causes some but not all sound replacements to stop working, even runs some within the same json that contains a broken sound. this specific one caused the ship ambient sound while landed to stop playing, but all other ship sounds ran correctly.

code: 0193f30c-1816-22ad-87ae-e7e87ee6f4e7

[trim granite]

guys can someone tell my why this nutcracker death sound is not changing here is the replacer:

[thorn mulch]

are you using beta or stable

[trim granite]

this one

i think its stable one

[long zenith]

try "*:NutcrackerDie"

or "NutcrackerEnemy:*:NutcrackerDie"

[proper dragon]

I already reported this error before

This happens if you load a mod like LR that fails to parse a json atm

[thorn mulch]

So that's because it's trying to read the meltdown json even though I have it disabled

[fiery arrow]

It still reads through the json to find out that it isn't meant to load it. "but then loads the fucked data anyway because it feels like it"

[cinder jolt]

test without any other mod that touches the cruiser first

[cinder jolt]

i wont support the """stable""" one until its been updated to v2

try use v2 and if it doesn't catch anything just check that the sound match is correct

[thorn mulch]

yes but also

when you change to v2 make sure your file is .ogg

because the beta doesn't support .wav right now

[proper dragon]

.ogg should always be used anyways

[fiery arrow]

In some rare edge cases wav can actually be smaller at higher quality. Sounds like a crazy idea as far as data compression goes, but it has happened to me.

[thorn mulch]

wav also should use less power to run

a very miniscule impact for sure but wav doesn't have to be decompressed to be ran

[trim granite]

can somebody tell me why its not replacing the audio?

[fiery arrow]

Matcher only work with 3 sections MouthDogModel:VoiceAudio:Breathe1

[trim granite]

thx

[trim granite]

this stopped working for some reason can someone send an working one?

[long zenith]

Try double checking the previous matchers in the json and make sure they are correct. I had this issue before where everything before a wrong matcher would load and everything after it wouldnt load

[trim granite]

i had an error but i fixed it but its still not working with the nutcrackerdie

[long zenith]

If you havent yet, install Enemy Sound Fixes. It fixes several things including nutcrackers not playing their death sound

[trim granite]

maybe that will fix something

[trim granite]

that actually fix it thx

[long zenith]

👍

[rain geyser]

If I use multiple sounds with weights to replace a sound, I take it that it won’t be synced between all players, right?

[fiery arrow]

In v1 no, hopefully in v2 it will

[merry sedge]

Update :]

[cinder jolt]

it fixes the main problem (the null reference exception) and adds more stuff

[fiery arrow]

Ye ye ik

Pls explain new stuffs btw, but no ping I sleep

[cinder jolt]

uhh new conditions for lll tags, is ship in orbit, renamed dungeon_name and moon_name to dungone:name and moon:name, probably some other small changes im not remembering

[fickle dagger]

Hey would it be possible for you to upload the soundapi to the subterranauts community? https://thunderstore.io/c/subterranauts/

[cinder jolt]

has it been tested there yet?

[fickle dagger]

I'll give it a try

[rain geyser]

When using the mod_installed condition what do I type out for the mod to be detected? I take it from the wiki that it’s not just the dependancy string or the name, right?

Is it the name of the team and then the mod name? Like notnotnotswipez.MoreCompany if I wanted to detect MoreCompany or something?

[fiery arrow]

GUID, which can be found in the DLL of a mod. Usually this would be the "source" section on thunderstore

[rain geyser]

Thank you!

[torn dust]

@cinder jolt Is there a ETA for the new sound API update?

[fiery arrow]

I specifically made that announcement so people wouldn't start doing this

[torn dust]

Which announcement?