Weather Registry / Weather Tweaks / mrov

[drowsy willow]

WeatherTweaks 0.24.5

• fixed an issue where something tried to access game's weather too early (thanks, @obsidian schooner !)
• added logs for scrap multipliers going off the rails (cause i still don't know what's happening) - if that issue happens again, please let me know ( @ancient depot, @lapis fractal, @kind crane)

[lapis fractal]

I'll send logs if it happens again. Also, can someone explain how Eclipsed > None even works?

Like from what I know eclipsed spawns a set number of enemies at the beginning of the round and after a tiny bit will spawn a bit more then it stops and that's it

It sounds like Eclipsed and Eclipsed > None are the exact same thing

[gray kayak]

functionally it is

iirc it just removes the red tint of eclipsed

[lapis fractal]

Like actually? Mrov please help

[gray thicket]

Yeah it's kinda useless tbch, by the time it transitions to none all the outside enemies will have already spawned anyway so there's not really a functional difference to vanilla eclipsed.

[lapis fractal]

Y'know, looking at these transitioning weathers, they all don't make sense

Almost no weather affects a player at the start of the round

It's always latter

So going from stormy to rainy

is rly the same as rainy

[harsh flicker]

Aesthetically for like immersion and it just being cool, transitioning weathers is neat
But yeah functionality / mechanically wise, i much much prefer combined weathers

[nocturne lily]

stormy > rainy will still mess up players bringing things like shovels into the facility

[lapis fractal]

True. Also, I think that config error is doing it outside of a game. I just configured some of the combined weathers and I don't recall opening the game but it's still doing it. The default is different now for some reason

Here is my latest log regardless though

[nocturne lily]

that isn't possible

[lapis fractal]

maybe I set the value and ran the game. Could be that the generate special config thing is still enabled

[coarse kiln]

I have both WeatherRegistry and WeatherTweaks, the WR config is generating, but for some reason there's no WT config file anywhere. Any reason this might be occurring?

I want WT to fix any Weather desyncs, but maybe that's not necessary with WR? Or is it just cos I'm not using the Beta

[nocturne lily]

you should be using beta

it was rewritten (i think)

[strong nova]

@drowsy willow Is this how it should be?

[severe pelican]

How did you get weather to work on gordion lol

[ancient depot]

@drowsy willow Btw I think the Blacklist doesn't work for WeatherTweaks weathers, I set up a blacklist for Blackout and it didn't work lol

[drowsy willow]

WR prevents desync 😇

[drowsy willow]

that is interesting - what's showing up in your logs?

[drowsy willow]

the what 😳

[drowsy willow]

what's your modpack code/log from that session?

[ancient depot]

0193f6c8-4b45-767b-a6d4-b172ff32f955

I definitely saw Blackout on Ultimatum despite blacklisting it XD

[drowsy willow]

thanks, I'll check them when I can 😅

I remember Glitch having similar issues yesterday - turned out to be a false alarm

so I wonder

[strong nova]

This is not WeatherTweaks

I was without him...

I just noticed and posted xD

[ancient depot]

Maybe it's cus no spaces?

But that wouldn't really make sense

Actually

It might be that

I got Blizzard on Ichor earlier and Voxx has that moon Blacklisted

It's either that or WeatherTweaks overriding something

lol

[drowsy willow]

I might've fucked something up in Tweaks, will check ASAP

[drowsy willow]

I know, it can be configured to work like that 🤭

[bleak quarry]

Buggy tweaks

[stark scaffold]

How buggy is BetaWeatherTweaksBeta. I want to add it to my modpack but I dont know how many bugs are in it.

[coarse kiln]

I've noticed sometimes the weather is desynced between what we thought it was going to be and what it actually was - with no reasoning clear by other event/effects e.g. BrutalCompanyMinus; and that's from just WeatherRegistry. So do you think any fuckup has bled to WR too? I only need WR/WT for that purpose and WR is already a dependancy for LethalElements so I was just going to stick to WR

[drowsy willow]

1. The issue that was found above (targeting wrong field in Registry, will fix)
2. Special weathers' scrap multipliers sometimes combine with themselves, creating mad combos - I'm trying to resolve why it's happening

other than that it should be good

[drowsy willow]

oh dear

[coarse kiln]

Merry Christmas, I guess 😂

[ancient depot]

I think it's the Tweaks pulling shenanigans

[coarse kiln]

Tweaks be tweakin'

[drowsy willow]

tweaks uses lists from registry, so the issue is upstream

fuckity

[ancient depot]

Fun

So maybe it is the lack of spaces?

lol

[stark scaffold]

Whats wrong with weather registry

[drowsy willow]

nothing I know of now

[drowsy willow]

really shouldn't be, it's designed to handle every possible case

[ancient depot]

Fun

[drowsy willow]

Wait, I've just realized - which version of WeatherTweaks are you using?

[abstract pivot]

but what if i create a weather called Meteor Shower and one called MEteorSHOWER because my mods are freaky

[coarse kiln]

WR 0.3.11 and WT 0.5.11

[drowsy willow]

cause you want to be using this: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/mrov/BetaWeatherTweaksBeta/

OH DEAR THE OLD TWEAKS FUCKING IT UP

[arctic grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-gif-4656385985544318455

[drowsy willow]

the day has come

[coarse kiln]

Yeah that's what I was asking before, you might have missed it. I was using OG WeatherTweaks lol

[drowsy willow]

🤭🤭🤭

freaaaaky

[daring pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/sisyphus-rael-gif-943215023730044045

[drowsy willow]

please don't

I have to kill it then

[ancient depot]

Finally time to deprecate the og Tweaks

[drowsy willow]

it's literally non-functional because of registry changes

hehehe

time to tweak it

[stark scaffold]

When you mean special weathers scrap multipliers sometimes combine do you mean when weathers combine it combines the scrap multipliers.

[coarse kiln]

So does that mean having WR is kinda pointless, even though it's a dependency of voxx's LethalElements? If all the issues are branching off that?

[drowsy willow]

yes and no

[stark scaffold]

like if its eclipsed then stormy they combine

[coarse kiln]

I'm guessing LEbeta only utilises your WTbeta?

[ancient depot]

No just don't use that version of WeatherTweaks

As he said

Use the Beta one

[drowsy willow]

what I'm saying is: don't use older Tweaks version because it was hacked together to barely work with WeatherRegistry

[coarse kiln]

Oh right nvm I can see the new version of LE still uses WR, sweet as

[coarse kiln]

Gotcha, thanks guys sorry for making circles

[drowsy willow]

it has its own weather weights, it's own algorithm for weathers, its own sync, everything is in-house and fucked

[coarse kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/the-square-hole-square-hole-shapes-piklas-gif-24625312

[drowsy willow]

and by design Tweaks are an add-on for registry, not the other way around

@ancient depot enable logging the startup things in your config (because I can't find the "random weathers" table 🥲)

[ancient depot]

🤔 I have this on, what else needs enabled?

Oh I see

Startup

LOL

Why is that off

0193f6dc-ecf6-1721-69fc-c4c01e7b3dcb There it should be on now

Let me try and see what I get from a fresh save log

[drowsy willow]

if you could - enable it, start the lobby and search for "default weights" in the log - the "random weathers" should be right above it

the tables

[ancient depot]

Yeah it's showing Blackout can be on there despite me blacklisting it

It's the lack of a space for sure

Cus

Stormy isn't a possible weather

and I set it up like this

Registry just is saying the lack of space is ignored ig

[drowsy willow]

I'll check it later with my debugging stuff 🥺

that's really weird tho

[ancient depot]

At least we got progress and we know the workaround

XD

Still strange

[drowsy willow]

are you super-sure that it's not set to whitelist?

[ancient depot]

Certain

[drowsy willow]

god damn

I'll check it when I'm back home

thanks 👍

[ancient depot]

yw

[broken gull]

Hi I'm not sure if I fucked something up with lethal itself but I'm running a fresh save of lethal with the recenty updated weathertweaks and weather registry, and it seems the uncertaincy system is broken. Its always accurate and doesn't seem to register the fact that I set it to always be uncertain. I'm not sure what to provide off the rip but I am willing to help with whatever I can send.

This is a fresh save and modpack of lethal, i doubt this is a mod conflict unless bettersaves is somehow messing with it.

I noticed that an update of I think weather-registry seemed to mess this up but I cant revert the change to find out.

If you do get back to me. Ping me if that is ok.

[strong nova]

Bettersave I was always afraid

what about lategame and other mods - that tried to save something

[lapis fractal]

Yeah, that combined/transitioning weather default value change thing happened again

[ancient depot]

Weird even with the spaces it won't Blacklist Blackout

Lmao

[strong nova]

let's go

LostEnemyFix worked as it should, or maybe the company deleted it right away xD

A tornado seems to be considered a monster object

[ancient depot]

@drowsy willow I fixed it

[broken gull]

it should be fine, its a fresh save. i dont see how thatd fuck it up, at least for this. other stuff im not certain on

[ancient depot]

Your bool toggle is flip flopped

Setting it to True currently makes it work as a Blacklist

False is Whitelist

So you just have to fix that, I have no idea why the All; option worked fine for Stormy though lol

Well nvm it's more broken than I thought

This is after changing the filtering to true

for those 3 weathers

LOL

Yeah it seems to just be ignoring manually entered moon names atm

Idk why

[drowsy willow]

oh no

will check

[little sedge]

hi?

did i do something

:V

mrov did i break your stuff

i use weathertweaksbeta and it works fine on my moons for my group

[daring pivot]

Not sure, there were a couple errors in this log but it's not related to WeatherTweaks/Registry

[little sedge]

OH

this error

yes

let me explain

on scene load i check for fog volumes, but i forgot to check if the player isnt in game

you can ignore this error, it means nothing

ill have it fixed next patch

[daring pivot]

Wasn't the cause of the black screen they were getting at least, lol

[little sedge]

nah, its just the game getting a little annoyed cuz im asking for something that doesnt exist yet

def wouldnt do that

[ancient depot]

I just want an option for Rebalanced Moons to not replace the core design of some moons, I'm all for the QOL stuff but I really don't wanna rework Titan to have 3 fire exits and stuff like that

I kinda respect the Vanilla design decisions lol

[little sedge]

I think at this point you could accomplish such a thing with a config mod like centralconfig or something

[ancient depot]

But I get the balancing is whack and fixing Adamance and stuff is cool

[ancient depot]

True but you put in the effort to bug fix some moons

[little sedge]

idk maybe at some point i could like

use JLL to make some stuff in the scene configurable

no promises though, not sure

to be honest config isnt something im terribly concerned about atm; i make my stuff for myself

and its in beta

[ancient depot]

Ye

[raw bloom]

Wouldn't beta mean it's being playtested privately

or no

Wouldn't it be alpha

[ancient depot]

I think it could be cool once it's finished to make a version with only the QOL stuff but not the things that completely redesign moons ^^

[little sedge]

Idfk bro i had minecraft beta when i was 11 and that shit sure as hell wasnt private

I can call it omega if i fuckin want to lmao

point is- its unfinished

[raw bloom]

RebalancedMoonsSigma

[gray kayak]

sigma

gdi

[little sedge]

sigma

[drowsy willow]

sigma ligma

[ancient depot]

WeatherSigma

[prisma trout]

What’s windy from?

Oh wait

Is that the code rebirth tornado weather

[severe pelican]

Alpha and beta just mean early, very much in-development builds I'm pretty sure. Primitive, if you will

[drowsy willow]

oh yeah, it is

what the fuck have i found

[abstract pivot]

mrov how are u fucking up that bad

[drowsy willow]

I HAVE NO IDEA

this is insane

i know now

[drowsy willow]

https://github.com/AndreyMrovol/LethalMrovLib/commit/004f285581ca10616937db1cdc1f74bfd40d088f

[abstract pivot]

what even was str????

[drowsy willow]

the config entry value

[abstract pivot]

💀

[drowsy willow]

so when it couldn't get any placeholder, it would return an empty array

fuuuuuuuun

[abstract pivot]

and u didnt think to add any logging?

[drowsy willow]

i've added some logging

that's how i found this

[abstract pivot]

okay nice

[drowsy willow]

MrovLib 0.2.13

• fixed a skill issue in resolving config entries

i honestly thought i've fucked this more severely lol

@ancient depot it's fixed

[ancient depot]

Yay

[dusky mesa]

@drowsy willow
After looking at stuff I think i know why people notice Weather Registry Weather multiplier making stuff feel higher than normal.

Vanilla value multiplier is suppose to be .4 where yours sets it to 1.0 making none weather values far higher than it should be.

[ancient depot]

Nah he changed it on purpose to make it easier

That's not it

[drowsy willow]

Registry's 1 is equal to vanilla's 0.4

[dusky mesa]

Ah gotcha never mind then.

[drowsy willow]

math is easier when you don't do fractions quickly

😅

[dusky mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/jump-window-sadness-gif-8292401

[drowsy willow]

https://github.com/AndreyMrovol/LethalWeatherRegistry/blob/a22f190d46f5e8135ca9976c46cf9d72d10d7857/WeatherRegistry/Patches/SpawnScrapInLevel.cs#L24

[lapis fractal]

was that weird combined weather multiplier glitch fixed?

I have them disabled atm

[drowsy willow]

not yet

😭

[jagged sapphire]

Anyone know a fix for this mod ignoring moon lists?
I want to use the Lethal Elements mod with this to make certain planets have heatwaves and blizzards, but it seems to always ignore my list and sprinkle them to every moon no matter if I treat it as a whitelist or black list. I've even tried putting weather weight down but it continues to be random.

This is especially annoying cause it means Gordion can get some weird weathers sometimes.

[latent sleet]

It should've been fixed in the latest update of mrov lib

[drowsy willow]

did latest mrovlib update fix that?

[drowsy willow]

WeatherRegistry 0.3.12

• bumped MrovLib to fix string resolving issues
• publicized config entries in RegistryWeatherConfig
• added an example class WeatherModExtendedConfig to showcase extending RegistryWeatherConfig for mod developers

[drowsy willow]

Hey, sorry for getting back to you so late - which version of WeatherTweaks are you using? (you should be using this one: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/mrov/BetaWeatherTweaksBeta/)

[broken gull]

dw dw. it was the latest version of the stable branch. i was not using the beta branch

[drowsy willow]

oh

i'm gonna be honest with you - the "stable" branch is super outdated

and i think it reached the point of no return

i'll try to have it fixed asap

[broken gull]

oh if its super outdated then dw. i wasnt aware it was outdated

[drowsy willow]

🥺

the plan is to put the current "beta" in its place, since i've worked hard to make it work nicely with WeatherRegistry

but i have no idea how far off I am from that 😅

[lapis fractal]

combinedweather config value fix update?

I'm asking if the last update was that. It's fine if not, just idk what publicized config entries mean lol

[drowsy willow]

coming today

hopefully

[dire gust]

Playing with black monitors turns this into a potential trap :p

[drowsy willow]

THANKS FOR THE REMINDER

i forgot to make text easier to see

[lilac rivet]

been wondering how do you get multiple weathers like that

[dire gust]

BetaWeatherTweaksBeta

[lilac rivet]

ok :TulipSmile:

[dire gust]

This one being Eclipsed that transitions to Foggy... or just Blackout, 50/50

[prisma trout]

are weather registry config alterations fixed in the latest version?

also is this the correct format or does it need spaces/a semi colon at the end?

[prisma trout]

had an issue with every time I altered vanilla weather to weather weights/level filters it would completely break weathers and the game as a whole post first day

i think thats already known

but I wanna be sure its fixed

before I start editing them again

[drowsy willow]

doesn't need spaces, doesn't need semicolons - the defaults have them to be more readable

[drowsy willow]

the fucking what 😳

[prisma trout]

lemme get an example video

maybe its unknown whoops

[lapis fractal]

wait I did remember last night, the first day didn't even pop up on the monitor. Like even routing to a diff moon the monitor was blank

Though the only weird mod was a fnaf suit mod. But yeah, first day did have a weird visual glitch when in multiplayer

[drowsy willow]

no no no no no

[latent sleet]

It's because they updated my mod most likely, when a new weather is added then on an old saves every weather reverts to none

[drowsy willow]

it shouldn't tho

[latent sleet]

I saw it yesterday while testing, but exactly once

[prisma trout]

my issue was

after the first day

id route to offense

no matter what, it was always rainy

even after save changes

[drowsy willow]

there are 3 cases the weathers have to be purposefully changed:

[prisma trout]

the weather was bugged causing a softlock

and you couldnt take off

and the weather was also bugged visually

essentially rainy without the clouds

a sunny rainy

[drowsy willow]

if you'll have this happen again, let me know

with logs and stuff 🥺

[prisma trout]

and it only fixed itself after resetting my level weights and weather to weather weights to default

[prisma trout]

well on the assumption its not fixed I can recreate it now

and get you a log

[latent sleet]

So idk what's happening to everyone here, but I'm on the latest version and test quite heavily and the config works as intended 🤷‍♂️

[prisma trout]

I was just under the impression it was already known cause it was a bug I could consistently recreate

[latent sleet]

Besides this reversal one time

[prisma trout]

took me a hot min to track down tho

[drowsy willow]

weather-weather stuff is even more baffling since it wasn't touched for a longggg time

[lapis fractal]

one issue was the combined/transition weathers values where iffy I'm pretty sure

[prisma trout]

i LOVE mod pack trial and error bug fixing

[lapis fractal]

like the multipliers

[latent sleet]

But I don't have weather tweaks in the test pack also

[lapis fractal]

weathermultipliers is weathertweaks?

Ohh i see what you mean

Well it seemed to be only when I changed the values that it became an issue

idk what happens if you don't touch them

[gray thicket]

WeatherWeight Sheet v0.1.3

• Added Toxic Smog from LethalElementsBeta

Blank:

My Values:

[prisma trout]

alr whatever it was it seems to be not happening at all in the latest version of weather registry

just spent the past 30 mins tryna recreate it

it happened consistently every time before but somehow fixed itself since then

[drowsy willow]

alrighty😅

good that it's gone

but so weird nontheless

[prisma trout]

since it was related to configs I might've just did a typo that caused it

[drowsy willow]

it wouldn't cause that much of a chain reaction tho

[prisma trout]

would if I duplicated an entry to do with the none weather

maybe

I can see that causing issues

[drowsy willow]

oh, so a toml error?

could be

[prisma trout]

was probably a typo on my end then

explains why nobody else has spoken about it

[drowsy willow]

if anything happens again - let me know!

[prisma trout]

will do 🫡

[harsh flicker]

So, whats the current situation with BetaWeatherTweaksBeta?
Does it still have the scrap value multiplier issue for combined weathers?
Was thinking of adding it to my main pack

[lapis fractal]

I think the solution was found but it's being/will be worked on

I would just keep combined weathers disabled until they are finished

unless you want weird values for now

[drowsy willow]

fix is coming out as soon as i fix other things 😇

i'm trying my hardest to completely replace "stable" today, but i'm not sure i'll manage

[lapis fractal]

🙏 😭

beta is now the norm

lol

[drowsy willow]

WeatherTweaks (beta) 0.24.6

• fixed an issue where WeatherTweaks would override WeatherRegistry's configured scrap multipliers (thanks, @lapis fractal !)
• changed Blackout's display color to be more visible

[drowsy willow]

fixed now 🤭

[lapis fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/summer-surf-surfer-surfing-lets-get-it-gif-4702303727060689144

[harsh flicker]

Nice!

[severe pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-iluvmybf-gif-4712057245981450122

[prisma trout]

seems to be a bug with weather scrap multipliers and facility meltdowns apparatus value override

when you take out the apparatus it reapplies the scrap multiplier

[dire gust]

It seemed like it simply always displays 240 until yoinked and then applies the weather for me?

[prisma trout]

for me it displays correctly depending on the weather

[dire gust]

Oh wait I have pizzaprobability actually

[prisma trout]

lets say the apparatus is worth 200

and theres a weather with a multiplier of 2

the apparatus while plugged in would display 400

when you take out the apparatus

the scrap multiplier would reapply

and become 800

[drowsy willow]

oh

could be, I'll fix it later

thanks 😅

[prisma trout]

OH

may I add this is host sided

clients won't see the reapplied value

but the host can

its not a ghost value also, regardless of who sells it, it sells the amount the host sees

its not a game breaking bug

but a little op depending on the scrap multipliers

I have a scrap value multiplier of 3.2 on the meteor weather from code rebirth

which makes app worth 768

and obvs with the reapply

[drowsy willow]

https://github.com/AndreyMrovol/LethalWeatherRegistry/blob/main/WeatherRegistry%2FPatches%2FLungProp.cs#L12-L16

that would explain why

[prisma trout]

it becomes 2457

which is kinda cracked

I mean 700 is also a LOT for apparatus

but 2.4k is even crazier

lucky I dont have rollover enabled

[drowsy willow]

2.4k is a 7th quota iirc

which is insane

will fix

[prisma trout]

the multipler is high because the weather weight is like

5

[gray thicket]

Yay the scrap multipliers are fixed 🙌

[severe pelican]

Launching rn

If the apparatus from facility meltdown scales properly with everything else I'll be so happy

Planning to finally play this pack with friends tmr

[severe pelican]

I didn't read above

[gray thicket]

@drowsy willow How do these two things interact?

Let's say if I have None to Eclipsed at a weight of 50, but a level weight for Eclipsed at 100, what would happen? Does one override the other? Do they get added up?

[severe pelican]

The multipliers are not multiplying

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1195533409309708419/1292610131736924251/evil_singer.gif

Does it not take floats?

Well... interesting logs. Tried disabling Tweaks and got the same results

Modlist

[jagged sapphire]

@drowsy willow
No, it doesn't seem like it did.
I have 0.2.13 of MrovLib and 0.3.12 of Weather Registry and it continues to just spread the weathers out to everything randomly.

[drowsy willow]

send me your modpack code

[drowsy willow]

Level weights have higher priority

[gray thicket]

Gotcha, thanks!

[jagged sapphire]

Uh, about that. I don't use the launchers. Mine is all manual install.

[drowsy willow]

hmmm, alrighty

[jagged sapphire]

I can send logs though and how my config is set up?

[drowsy willow]

a zip of your bepinex folder?

[jagged sapphire]

Yeah I can do that.

[drowsy willow]

send me a DM

cause you can't do that here

[jagged sapphire]

👍

Can't dm it's blocking me.

[drowsy willow]

what do you mean by that? 😅

are the scrap multipliers not working?

[drowsy willow]

oh, didn't read this properly

I've got reports of it applying two times

[severe pelican]

I should also specify further since I probably didn't previously (whoops)

My situation rn is that, yeah, setting the scrap value multipliers in the config don't seem to have an effect in general 🤔 It seems to only apply to the apparatus with facilitymeltdown's integration turned on iirc

My issue in the previous version was that while the scrap value was increasing, if I were to land on a moon with combined weathers, the apparatus value specifically would turn out to be less than it would have been on a vanilla weather (I used a 1.4 multiplier value for each)

Maybe I just don't understand how the math works when combined weathers use the multiplier?

This was kinda complicated so I hope I did not word this poorly

[drowsy willow]

1. I'll check what's happening with facilitymeltdown and Registry interacting
2. When it comes to weathertweaks, until today the default scrap multipliers would completely override the config values, which I've fixed - still, I'm not sure why it's not working on the apparatus 🥲

[gleaming temple]

Quick question, is lightning supposed to strike when you're flying in on the ship? It happens when the windy weather effect is on a moon and either myself or my friends die every time.

[drowsy willow]

the WHAT

[gleaming temple]

yeah

[drowsy willow]

what's the tornado color?

[gleaming temple]

Not too sure, we died to quickly to see it

if I can recreate it later I'll update but it just constantly happens

[drowsy willow]

that's really weird

do you have a log from that session?

[gleaming temple]

I want to say it happens with almost every weather effect

no unfortunatelyt

it happened during a metor shower too

[severe pelican]

Mannn, well I believe in you. I appreciate your consideration of the issue and honest work 🙏

[drowsy willow]

what's your modpack code?

if that's true it's insane that it happens tbh

[gleaming temple]

0193ff68-0e41-cd24-0c25-2fc52a8b2502

[drowsy willow]

thanks, will check

[prisma trout]

everytime I take off from modded weather i get a null

and get stuck in ship in motion

[drowsy willow]

log?

[prisma trout]

gonna ask in lethal elements too

I think its something related to registry, lethal elements, and central config weather configurations

3 variable bug

0193ff7f-1e24-a3c4-6cdf-2ba661ffdfb5

heres the code too

[drowsy willow]

thanks, i'll check it

[prisma trout]

tysm

[gray thicket]

These types of lights are still on during Blackout (screenshot from Offense, but they're used elsewhere too like custom moons)

[drowsy willow]

yeah, i'm only disabling light sources, not replacing the emmisive textures 😭

[gray thicket]

ah, gotcha

no good way to do that i take it?

[drowsy willow]

too much hassle

not every texture has a disabled variant

[drowsy willow]

my game crashed when taking off

what the fuck is going on

😆

it was my mistake during import

@gleaming temple i cannot replicate your issue (sadly) - when it happens again please send me the log from that session

because i have no idea how that could happen 😔

[drowsy willow]

it worked for me 😭

oh dear

i've landed on Toxic Smog and Meteor Shower and were able to start the ship without issues

[prisma trout]

try solar flare or heat wave

[drowsy willow]

will do rq

experimentation:heatwave

started normally, the day ended

🥲

[prisma trout]

then it seems to happen randomly

wait

try a moon like

embrion or detritus

they're hidden moons on the starter constellation

those are the moons I had it on

[drowsy willow]

okie

[gleaming temple]

Thanks for trying to figure it out! I'll let you know if it happens again 🙏

[drowsy willow]

detritus:solar flare worked

[prisma trout]

Oh that might be because

You tried just the first day

I know it can happen second day taking off

Iv never had it first day

I’m just tryna tell the difference between

[prisma trout]

Random variables that were just coincidences

Or

Actual causes

Fucking sucks

After dying maybe?

[drowsy willow]

i also hate unreproducible bugs

😦

[drowsy willow]

will check

[prisma trout]

That’s the only thing I can think of

[prisma trout]

I thought this was able to be consistently recreated is the thing

I got it like

A lot

Enough to get a log a fair few times

[drowsy willow]

died in the same setup

i really don't know what could be causing that to happen

[hexed jacinth]

normal weathertweaks doesn't seem to work anymore, it gives this error

[drowsy willow]

i know, it will be addressed this week 😔

sorry for that

[hexed jacinth]

no problem, thank you

does this caused by weather registry? should i revert it?

[drowsy willow]

you can revert WeatherRegistry to 0.3.10 and it should still work

it's because of this: https://github.com/AndreyMrovol/LethalWeatherRegistry/commit/1ebdf3642a1d6a91a64eab112734269d65a6bd28#diff-6d24258d5b7abab3150415cefd445c83789a296fe19d488e902734f1b44e9a09L11-R12

[hexed jacinth]

i see just reverted it back to 0.3.10 and it works again

[drowsy willow]

the issue is: i haven't worked on the "stable" version for almost half a year

and it needs a complete re-do to fully integrate with Registry

long story

so right now i'm going to merge the "beta" branch into stable and go from there

i just want it to be on par with the features provided

[prisma trout]

Whatever it is, it’s driving me insane

I’d say it’s localised entirely to my install of the modpack

But it’s happened to other people who have downloaded it

Cause I keep getting bug reports of the same issue

[drowsy willow]

https://github.com/LoafOrc/FacilityMeltdown/blob/74a2b8f0ecd190d1420e40c840c77a124518a3f9/FacilityMeltdown/Patches/ApparaticePatch.cs#L31-L32

FacilityMeltdown checks WeatherRegistry's scrap multiplier, so both them and me apply the same multiplier to the value - I'll fix that

thanks for the report 😅

[drowsy willow]

that is madness

i sincerely don't know why that's happening

[severe pelican]

No prob! Glad i can help

[prisma trout]

It’s okay dw, Ty for the help cause essentially we’ve just been whittling down possibilities

So it has been a help

I’ll get to the bottom of it at some point

It’s definitely something to do with registry and central config throigh

I feel like it has to be in some way

Or rather not registry specifically

But

Central config and weather related as a whole

I’m wondering if it’s my injection values and multipliers for central config

Though I’m not sure

[drowsy willow]

if you ever experience that issue again - let me know

with logs 😅

[prisma trout]

Yes definitely

[drowsy willow]

cause i'd really love to narrow that shit down as well

[prisma trout]

I have a log from before

Same issue but

The log read differently

[drowsy willow]

i've checked it and couldn't find any Registry/CC errrors in there

which is even more concerning

[prisma trout]

There’s an actual log somewhere around there too

Think it’s further down

[latent sleet]

It's very obvious that this is from CC

[drowsy willow]

oh

[prisma trout]

Yeah and then I tried disabling CC

[drowsy willow]

have you checked if disabling CC (or LethalThings for that matter) fixes it?

[prisma trout]

yup

And that’s when it generated the log I sent here

[drowsy willow]

madness

[prisma trout]

Reminds me of stack traces from modded Minecraft

Where essentially things listed in the stack trace might not necessarily be the cause

Obviously silly of my to compare Unity to Java

But I’m wondering if I can apply similar logic

Cause it does the same thing where I disable the aforementioned mods, it lists new mods that could be the issue

Mods I haven’t had an issue with for a while, such as furniture lock, and it just leads into a domino effect or string trail of a ton of mods to disable that won’t inherently fix anything

Essentially central config and lethal things, according to the stack trace, started suddenly acting up and causing issues out of the blue

Mods have updated but those are two which haven’t been updated in a while

Since this bug started 3 - 4 days ago

And lethal things hasn’t been updated in 5 months

And CC in 2 weeks

So I feel like the chance of this having been caused from a config change I made, and not a mod being updated/added and causing an issue makes more sense

I might just be coping tho and trying to make sense of a bug that is completely random and sporadic

Probably should start looking towards other possible causes, like dungeons

I know iv had a similar bug caused by dungeon size being too large, or a dungeon being incompatible with a certain weather, such a solar flare

Only thing is if that were the case idk why the bug suddenly appeared now

Since I haven’t changed any of that for a hot minute

Still worth me looking at

I LOVE troubleshooting

[thorny salmon]

💀 boy

[lapis fractal]

so is the combined weather thing fixed? Sorry for asking a second time, I haven't kept track of the updates. Well, actually I'll go look rq

[lapis fractal]

It says it's fixed in the changelog. And I got a thanks!? That's awesome!!!

[lapis fractal]

talking about the whole none weather chance decreasing when a weather can't be on a moon, has that been fixed or not? i can't remember if it was

[stark scaffold]

@drowsy willow two things

• Did you add the blackout weather (if so what is it0

• I'm using the beta version of weather tweaks but its not combining/progressing weather

[lapis fractal]

Blackout weather is a weather that makes the outside pitch black. You have to have a flashlight at all times pretty much. not only that, the interior lights cannot be turned on

The lights on the ship are brighter to compensate but you can't just scan your way outside, only a flashlight is bright enough to even see

[stark scaffold]

what about the weather

I'm using the beta and its not combining or progressing

nvm I see progressing

but not combining

[lapis fractal]

you dont' see the combined weather options? They are scattered aroundn the progressing weathers

[strong nova]

@drowsy willow I need help

Lately, sometimes 2 players on Artifice and other maps

they just can't load

and sometimes everything is fine, we already suspected many mods

but I still don’t understand

these are the logs of the client he is playing with

Without it, if you run it solo, everything is fine

it's spammy all the time when there's an error

[drowsy willow]

what is ravenfogremover?

[daring pivot]

#thunderstore-moderation message lol

[strong nova]

yes, it turns out this function is from HD

but I don't have this mod!

[strong nova]

#1193461151636398080 message

At first I thought it was LLL

but I guess I'm wrong

I just want to figure out why the client is spamming this error at the moment when the ship cannot load onto the moon

and everything works fine, the only thing that helps is a complete reboot of the host, without subsequent lobby reboots when everyone dies

After all, does this happen - frequent reboots of saving leads to some kind of problem in the future or is it just a myth?

perhaps the player did not report in the report that he was using some kind of mod

what caused such problems

and I started panicking in all the chats to understand how to solve the problem...

[drowsy willow]

lmaooooooo

[strong nova]

but now there are no problems and I'm happy :3

[drowsy willow]

i have done a thing

[gray kayak]

I don’t get it

[dire gust]

Weather listings without LLL I assume? (that might be terminalformatter that I'm thinking of...)

[drowsy willow]

yes 😇

[drowsy willow]

WeatherRegistry 0.3.13

• fixed a compatibility issue with FacilityMeltdown where the scrap multiplier would be applied twice
• added a WeatherManager.WeatherDisplayOverride method to override displayed weather condition

WeatherTweaksBeta 0.24.7

• moved TextPostProcess patch to WeatherRegistry

this leaves me with two fixes i have to do before merging beta into stable

yippee

[gray thicket]

🙌 💯

[idle light]

I fw blackout heavy

[lilac rivet]

what does it do

[idle light]

dark

and basically no natural lighting

indoor or outdoor

[idle light]

yeah like that

[lilac rivet]

whats the mod? i need excuses to edit my modpack even more...

[idle light]

weathertweaks beta

https://tenor.com/view/manul-pallas-cat-pallas-cat-manulin-gif-13038820471662595194

[lilac rivet]

oh

makes sense..

[bright viper]

Blackout is peak weather
Genuinely terrifying

Well done mrov

[strong nova]

Agree

It's like FullDarkness from Diverity

[bright viper]

I combined both and it makes everything 10x more immersive

It's like landing during the night

[prisma trout]

What’s the moon damn

The greenish yellow hue with blackout goes so hard

[idle light]

im gatekeeping

[prisma trout]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-smilingfriends-charlie-dompler-pim-pimling-episode-5-season-2-gif-18335334576960883853

[idle light]

nah deadass thats the answer

its a moon i havent uploaded yet lol

[prisma trout]

Ohhh that makes sense

Looks peak from what I can see

Well

Kind of ironic cause it’s blackout but

Still

[severe pelican]

PREACH 🙏

Imma test when I'm on

[severe pelican]

Well, I guess the double multiplier wasn't the issue after all? Not sure what's going on here

01940914-d1ce-e299-8486-fa45ce73fca5

There's my testing profile

Maybe imperium is messing with it

[severe pelican]

W/out Imperium the price doesn't even go up 💀 what the sigma

I'll troubleshoot mor elater

It might just be a meltdown issue I'm not sure

[drowsy willow]

I'll check later

[nocturne lily]

got this error in a session last night that i'm not sure if it's important or not, thought you'd like to look at it

019405b8-b9fc-717f-6270-4ba9417ed4b0

this is one of 2 mods i suspect could be causing lag when entering the facility, but i want to make sure before i do anything

[drowsy willow]

thanks, I'll check

[ancient depot]

That's the same error I've told you about before Mrov and idk what causes it

[terse silo]

i don't get what these mean

like

does it slowley turn into stormy???

[ancient depot]

It progresses late in the day

It will change to Stormy

[nocturne lily]

ok it's not this mod causing lag when entering facility

still not sure abt that error but i know that this mod isn't lagging with that code

[terse silo]

ah ok

[idle light]

sooo is this a me thing or is flooded busted atm

still plays the audio inside and everything

[worldly sleet]

what are the differences between betaweathertweaksbeta and regular weathertweaks other than regular weathertweaks being broken

[nocturne lily]

regular weathertweaks doesn't have good integration with registry

[worldly sleet]

that counts as regular weathertweaks being broken

[nocturne lily]

ok

i don't think blackout exists in regular weathertweaks

[lilac rivet]

gonna scare my friends with blackout...ahahha

[drowsy willow]

have you set flooded forcefully (imperium or something) or did that happen normally?

[drowsy willow]

yes

[idle light]

I mean I have imperium but that’s just how it was when I installed weather tweaks

Integrity isn’t supposed to be flooded usually is probably the issue

But I didn’t set it there myself

[drowsy willow]

that error happens when the current weather is not in random weathers (and Tweaks can't get weather variables for it)

[idle light]

I mean I had assumed

[drowsy willow]

I'll fix that to pass "default" values for a given weather and show warnings

[idle light]

Aight

[drowsy willow]

Hey, i'm trying to troubleshoot your issue - what exactly is the problem you've experienced?

because - as far as i can see - it ran correctly 😅

I've landed on Foggy and took apparatus out:

• your base value (in Meltdown) is configured to 240
• foggy's value multiplier is 2

so it works correctly

i'll check without imperium

without imperium:

• stormy's multiplier is set to 2

that is interesting what the fuck

[bright viper]

[12:48:30.5216178] [Debug  :WeatherRegistry] Landing at March with weather {"Name":"Foggy","VanillaWeatherType":3,"Type":1}
[12:48:30.5216178] [Debug  :WeatherTweaks] DisableFogExclusionZones called

is it possible to disable the fog in ship?

As in make it so weather tweaks DOESN'T call the function to disable the exclusion zones?

[drowsy willow]

that is planned for the next release 🥺

[bright viper]

Yippie!

[drowsy willow]

i thought it was fine on foggy weather, but enabled it always 🤭

will fix

[bright viper]

Thanks a lot mrov

[drowsy willow]

without FacilityMeltdown:

rainy multiplier is set to 2:

that is interesting

[prisma trout]

Facility meltdown has a really weird way of handling the apparatus value

[drowsy willow]

it's not overly complicated

but why doesn't it work when there's no imperium installed 😆

[gray thicket]

I've noticed recently that Gordion is showing uncertain weathers sometimes. Not a big deal since the true weather is always clear, but it does feel a bit odd.

[drowsy willow]

LOL

will fix

[gray thicket]

😄

[prisma trout]

ae

[lilac rivet]

i remember when my gordian said it was heatwave turns out it actually was heatwave

[drowsy willow]

😳

that could happen 😳

[lilac rivet]

it has never happened again...

[drowsy willow]

it's possible that it was the moment I've fucked up my config resolving pretty badly

🥲

[harsh flicker]

Time to put meteor shower at the company

So the gamblers can just die randomly at anytime for taking too long

[gray thicket]

but... we could have TWO gold bars!

[harsh flicker]

My gambling addict friend did spawn a tornado there once, tho that was from LethalPresents
https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/j7HWXlNY7gj_T_Dt1?invite=cr-MSxyVVYsNDg4NTQ5Nyw

[drowsy willow]

OH NO

[harsh flicker]

Like a dog on a leash

[drowsy willow]

"must, gamble"

[lilac rivet]

NO...

[harsh flicker]

This is why Teal didnt get a single challenge donea

[severe pelican]

Weirdest darn thing 😭

I wonder if using imperium even once on a save with registry and meltdown breaks all the math somehow... Hopefully that's not the case

[drowsy willow]

i have honestly no idea why that happens

but i can do one thing to narrow it down

[severe pelican]

🤔

[drowsy willow]

i'll add some extra logging to meltdown to check what's happening

i am lost

nevermind, stupid

with imperium

without imperium

something is not working correctly when imperium is not present

which is weird

[prisma trout]

I tend to test certain bugs without imperium

It essentially adds a new variable to account for

And can interfere when you’re tryna fix a specific to reproduce bug

[drowsy willow]

that is interesting

[prisma trout]

Typo mb

[drowsy willow]

i know that it happens now

but why

[prisma trout]

Imperium wasn’t made with every possible mod in mind

From what iv seen some of its debug tools, that are enabled or disabled by default, can overwrite things on other mods

[drowsy willow]

oh, i completely get that, i'm not asking in general

i want to find the specific thing that interacts 😅

[prisma trout]

And lock certain aspects in place that could either create a bug, or avoid a normally common bug

[prisma trout]

OHH

Mbmb

It’s probably something to do with the teleport tool and how it registers scrap

The only thing I could think of that could affect the override of the app value

Or something to do how it handles weather

I know imperium is like

Super weird

And inconsistent

When displaying weathers in the menu for it

Since they’re usually wrong

Until you set it yourself

[drowsy willow]

that one i know about

since it never reloads the dropdowns

[prisma trout]

Might just have to poke around in imperium until you see something that clicks

I’m not an expert I barely use it

[drowsy willow]

only thing that touches scrap values is when you spawn items via imperium

which is not the case here

one more idea

[drowsy willow]

registry only:

registry+imperium:

forgot about it lol

meltdown+imperium

[drowsy willow]

i think i found it

that's registry+meltdown

somehow it got 1 as the weather multiplier (it should be 2)

[severe pelican]

Ahhhh interesting

Is this why combined weathers have weirder outcomes I'm betting?

[lapis fractal]

y'know what if we pull the app, and outside weather goes crazy or something

nah that's a bad idea mb

[drowsy willow]

👀

[drowsy willow]

AFAIK it's unrelated

[severe pelican]

Apparatus pull introduces a cool new weather that spawns a new enemy: The creature. From the creature feature. Featuring: The creature.

[lapis fractal]

or a super windy, super rainy, unique lightining/thunder fusion weather

like it's screwing with the atmosphere or something

[severe pelican]

May I know how that math works actually? I've been assuming it adds the multipliers from the two specific weathers together, then uses that as the scrap value multiplier

[bright viper]

When Lightning hits the apparatus it causes a nuclear explosion

[drowsy willow]

for combined ones?

let me get that

[severe pelican]

Yeye

[drowsy willow]

• combined: https://github.com/AndreyMrovol/LethalWeatherTweaks/blob/d568e8078f95a88832985faff09a3aec45e9c7b0/WeatherTweaks/Definitions/CombinedWeather.cs#L57-L68

• progressing: https://github.com/AndreyMrovol/LethalWeatherTweaks/blob/d568e8078f95a88832985faff09a3aec45e9c7b0/WeatherTweaks/Definitions/ProgressingWeather.cs#L122-L146

[lapis fractal]

for the 0.45 thing, wouldn't that make it less value and less amoutn

shouldn't it be 0.35 instead?

[drowsy willow]

those values are from the feedback i got at that time

i'm not saying it's good, but that's how it is right now

[lapis fractal]

who gave that feedback 💀

lol

[severe pelican]

Wait

Its starting to make sense now 😭

So I thought it just combined both multipliers, I didn't realize it was also multiplying 0.45 for both if I'm reading that right

[drowsy willow]

yes

scrap multipliers for combined weathers are calculated like that

not to be super scuffed

[lapis fractal]

don't near all combined weathers just have a 0.9 for both values

oh wait I see

[severe pelican]

I mean I think combined is still making scrap more valuable than single weather anyway, but I think that's why I'm seeing the weird interaction with the meltdown apparatus override. I'm assuming it's only an issue though because of whatever is going on here

[severe pelican]

But if those two things are unrelated then uh

[drowsy willow]

oh, i see where you'd get that

[severe pelican]

I guess I'm outta luck

[drowsy willow]

those two are completely unrelated tho

[severe pelican]

Damn

[drowsy willow]

alright

this is super weird

when there's no imperium, FM doesn't see WeatherRegistry as "enabled"

[severe pelican]

What the freak

[drowsy willow]

this is super weird

i'll try a simple switcheroo

oh my fucking god

it's a 100% meltdown issue

there are two possible fixes:

1. going around the stuff that's happening in FM and making patches work from my side
2. fixing FM

there's also 3. ignore the issue completely, but that's for another occasion

went with (2): https://github.com/LoafOrc/FacilityMeltdown/pull/55

[severe pelican]

What's going on in FM?

[drowsy willow]

this: #1203871322841808906 message

[severe pelican]

I just read your link my bad

Thank you for troubleshooting I really appreciate everything you do

[drowsy willow]

no worries

i think there's a way to make it fixed on my side, but that depends on if/when it's gonna be fixed in Meltdown

[lapis fractal]

is this only with combined weathers

the whole app thing

[drowsy willow]

this is always

[lapis fractal]

ohh

like what exactly is happening ;-;

[drowsy willow]

this: #1203871322841808906 message

[lapis fractal]

I use pizzaprobability for multipliers and app price so I don't think this issue has happened to me

[drowsy willow]

alright

[severe pelican]

Is this more of a random chance thing or is it a predictable/consistent variable?

I'm prob gonna stick with registry anyway just curious

[lapis fractal]

you can set it as a chance but you can set it as diff chances for diff moons. You can also make an safe (no meltdown) cheaper than one that would be unsafe. I use the mod specifically for cosmocos since it has a pretty beefy unique app

[severe pelican]

I see, that's cool

[soft merlin]

teehee so this is wrong :3
meltdown handles soft dependencies using this #1216761387343151134 message
ill have to look at somepoint what exactly is going wrong, im planning to update meltdown somewhat soon

ahh i think its an oversight with bepinex where it only checks bepindependency and no inherited classes

yeah im like 95% sure its a bepinex bug lmao

i dont know why it handles dependencies like this at all

[drowsy willow]

well, i found a solution rather than the solution 😅

hope you'll find a way to resolve it 😇

[soft merlin]

ill probably just use your pr for now

[severe pelican]

🙏

[drowsy willow]

WeatherTweaksBeta 0.25.0

• moved weathers to MrovWeathers
• fixed an error when there's no randomWeather found for a given level-weather pair (thanks, @idle light !)
• fixed a bug where uncertain weathers would appear on Gordion (thanks, @gray thicket !)
• fixed ship fog (thanks, @bright viper !)

[idle light]

[nocturne lily]

ahahahah

standalone blackout

delicious

[drowsy willow]

i figured that it might be an intended experience for many

tweaks will download the additional weathers as a dependency, since that's my intended experience for it

but - as many features inside - it's fully optional

[harsh flicker]

ohhh neat

ye makes sense

[idle light]

Mrov do you intend on making more weathers

Rn you have tech have cloudy and blackout

As stupid as it sounds I actually like cloudy

it’s simple but it’s nice for variation

[drowsy willow]

oh, absolutely

[idle light]

Do you got any ideas yet?

[harsh flicker]

I found that cloudy is also goated for if you're doing weather to weather weights
Can make it so, e.g., chance for clear --> rainy is rly low
But make the chance for clear --> cloudy much much higher, and then cloudy --> rainy
So then its like a thing you can forecast

[drowsy willow]

i have no idea when or how, but there are some ideas i've had

[idle light]

Alright

[drowsy willow]

well, one of them would work a lot better as a level, but time will tell 🤭

[idle light]

I should totally grab that old list I wrote for code rebirth and see if there are any weathers I thought of that haven’t been done yet

Because 3 of the ideas I had in like February have been done already

Vox poached snowstorm and the one with the batteries

And xu did windy

[drowsy willow]

i've done blackout

heatwave is also done

[idle light]

And heatwave wtf

Did I predict the future wtf

[drowsy willow]

orbital bombardment is technically describing meteor shower from CR

[nocturne lily]

what about acid rain

has that been done yet

[drowsy willow]

not yet

i've got an idea on how that could work in LC

not skilled enough to do that yet

😅

[idle light]

Dude what the fuck

The only thing that hasn’t been done from the concept list I wrote is hurricane

[nocturne lily]

what do you think

[idle light]

I’m ngl I was gonna build that into corrosion

[nocturne lily]

cus i also have an idea of it but it might be the same as yours

[idle light]

But the main issue I can see with that is that most moons just

Don’t have the cover

[dire gust]

Is it possible to mess with gravity through a weather?

[drowsy willow]

fuck i should do that

[nocturne lily]

very true

[leaden flume]

ngl most weathers could work as events

imagine a tsunami event in an ocean moon

interstellar style

[drowsy willow]

prolonged exposure fucks with the suit causing some effects

[nocturne lily]

inb4 "Gravitational Flux"

[drowsy willow]

didn't think that through yet

[idle light]

Seriously though what the fuck man

[leaden flume]

can i add on to that?

it damages scrap

making them lose value

[drowsy willow]

oh, absolutely

[nocturne lily]

ahhhh, i was thinking of it very slowly reducing your health to 20 when not inside/under cover

[drowsy willow]

that would work better if it was some kind of chemical that you breathe

since you leave the area -> you can regen

[leaden flume]

windy could also be loud as hell

and push you around

if you jump, you get sent flying lol

[drowsy willow]

unless you mean permament, then we're thinking about the same thing 😅

[dire gust]

Oh yeah we have tornados but that windy isn't around afaik?

[leaden flume]

CR's windy is a mix between the two

honestly both should be its own thing

like snowfall and blizzard

[nocturne lily]

yeah i was thinking of a just gradual decrement to 20 since 20 is where you recover to after critical

and obviously if you have mods that regen health it can go back up but if you're outside it goes down again

the rate of decay is the hardest part to think of

[idle light]

Dude

I’m so

Upset

That nobody who has ever done a tornado effect

Actually flings the player

[leaden flume]

I KNOW????????????????

[idle light]

Like it would be so cool if it just acts like tulip snakes when you get closer

[leaden flume]

weathers and events have such a potential

[harsh flicker]

I also thought of that, but instead of it being an acid rain, i thought of it being a Locust swarm
So it reduces visibility and reduces scrap value of scraps exposed to the swarm outside, as well as proly damage overtime

Also ties into Roaming Locusts a lil, feels quite vanilla friendly

[leaden flume]

infestation weather/event....

cool

mrov have you ever considered doing events before

[idle light]

So true

I’ve never

[drowsy willow]

i have an early implementation of WeatherEvent in Registry, but that shit requires so much changes in the game

[idle light]

Actually seen

The vanilla meteor stuff

[nocturne lily]

would that be like CR tornado but with flooded/rainy effects as well

[drowsy willow]

the chance is 6/1000 iirc

[leaden flume]

which is why i downloaded that one mod that makes that chance exponential

[idle light]

Yeah but at the same time I heavily dislike CR windy 💔

[leaden flume]

so we actually have a chance to see it once every playthrough lol

[drowsy willow]

Blackout would work super well as an event

the later, the better

[idle light]

Well that seems a little absurd

[leaden flume]

"we have a quota to meet!"

no you dont

The Fog is coming

[dire gust]

0.6%

[nocturne lily]

when i first used CR i thought windy was gonna be more like how current CR's fan works, that it pushes players around slightly in bursts

using maybe the same speed as the vacuum effect from the fan

[drowsy willow]

that would work better, yeah

remember that CR was a precursor to making custom weathers, so it went super ambitious on those first weathers 😅

[leaden flume]

am i the only one who thinks that CR's tornado is a little too fast?

[nocturne lily]

the primary thing about it i don't like is how jittery it makes players move

the code for dragging isn't really smooth

[idle light]

Hey I’ve got a question

Would it be possible to have harmless weathers spawn at the company building

Like a light fog

Or rainy

Or smth

[nocturne lily]

chameleon already makes company building have harmless rain

[drowsy willow]

it's possible, yeah

[leaden flume]

like chameleon's stormy in gorgion?

oh lol

[drowsy willow]

i'm not gonna do it

but it's possible

[idle light]

…I don’t run chameleon so I didn’t know that It had that

[drowsy willow]

Chameleon has that, so check if that suits your needs 😅

[nocturne lily]

it technically isn't counted as a weather, game still marks it as clear

[idle light]

So how does it work

Is it like random

[nocturne lily]

so if i had to guess it uses triggers to spawn the effects like how experimentation spawns dust clouds

[nocturne lily]

it can be set random, never, or always

[idle light]

Is it just rainbow

Rain

Jesus

[idle light]

Autocorrect blehhhhh

[drowsy willow]

WeatherRegistry needs an explicit declaration in weather filters to spawn them at company

[nocturne lily]

just rain, no puddles, no lightning

[drowsy willow]

chameleon does visual stuff to the weather effects there

[nocturne lily]

yes which is why i think it uses the triggers like experimentation

it spawns the visuals for rain without the hazards

[dire gust]

I thought I remembered pooled water, just no quicksand silliness

[nocturne lily]

yes just visual

[drowsy willow]

tbh i'd redone Rainy to be purely visual and make quicksand spawn only in a separate weather type

[gray thicket]

Thanks for the shout! 👍

also wait, we still have cloudy, right?

cuz it's not in the mrovweathers description

[drowsy willow]

OH

i forgor 💀

[drowsy willow]

and I forgot to make the repo public, that's now fixed

[drowsy willow]

after making a proper list I've got 8 rough weather ideas and 3 refined ones (for a total of 11)

this will be fun to make 🤭🤭

[bright viper]

could you spoil some? 😳

[drowsy willow]

no

🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭

[bright viper]

Aighty. Blackout is peak so I trust these will be too

[reef radish]

Blackout is really good with Old birds because of their Flood Lights

[bright viper]

[Haunted]

[drowsy willow]

holy fucking shit that looks amazing

[reef radish]

indeed

in my modpack I made that moon always have blackout

[lilac rivet]

is that detritus

or was that embrion can't tell if that was main or fire..