Ship Windows

[half urchin]

im not even sure enemies see you when its open

[glacial temple]

it does

[half urchin]

ah nice

wasnt sure

[jovial peak]

yes it blocks them seeing through when they're closed

[tribal chasm]

cool, thanks

[sullen solar]

Yeah ^^

That's the point of the shutters 😅

[tribal chasm]

Enemies couldn't see you in the base mod that's why I was asking lol

[jovial peak]

(there's an option to bring that back too)

[tribal chasm]

yeah ik

[mental light]

And now we wait for it to be compatible with widership

https://tenor.com/view/dio-stone-ocean-wine-jojo-part6-gif-24021336

[prime oasis]

Iirc the wider ship dev is already looking into making it compatible

[sullen solar]

They may have to wait for the ShipWindows rewrite though

[prime oasis]

ah, damn, need to wait a little longer

ty for the info tho

[rigid spindle]

there’s a rewrite?

[clear prairie]

You're rewriting ShipWindows?

[sullen solar]

I've been saying that since I took over ShipWindows 😅

It's not very far since I never know where to start though

[sullen solar]

Not yet

[rigid spindle]

guessing u want to rewrite coz it wasn’t originally ur project

[clear prairie]

Ooh

[sullen solar]

That too

[dusty sorrel]

It will be pretty fun trying to work out compatability with other ship modifying mods now that other people are starting to do stuff like that

The only thing I can really think of would be to split the ship into sections and write some sort of API other modders can use to do their own things, like remove walls to add extra rooms, that way you aren't stepping on each other's toes

That would be a ton of work, though, and it still wouldn't be guaranteed to avoid conflicts

Good luck with however you choose to do it :)

[sullen solar]

Dunno why, but the AssetBundle might be twice as big in future updates...

Great door, right?

Mmmm, even better!

[sullen solar]

Ummmmm

[gritty pecan]

glass door with glass

[sullen solar]

So... Why is it blurry? 😅

[round heath]

looks like its going well

[sullen solar]

Well, guess that blur is called fog

[sullen solar]

Testing sessions with @winged flower always end up like this

[chilly lake]

Autopiloting to the sun

[prisma copper]

how do I purchase windows if I set them to be unlockable? They don't appear in the store

also, could someone confirm how to get the 4k skybox to work? I have ship windows, the 4k skybox, and celestial tint. The celestial tint override is not enabled, and ship windows is set to HDRI

[slender musk]

They do under ship upgrades
Make sure to have these settings set:

[prisma copper]

That worked, thank you!

[sullen solar]

If you disable the Celestial Tint override, the ShipWindows skybox won't appear

-# (So... You have to enable it)

[prisma copper]

I eventually figured it out, but I appreciate the reply. I got confused by it, thinking that checking it on would override the skybox with Celestial Tint's

[sullen solar]

Rewrite will be using Interactive Terminal API 🙂

[clear prairie]

How far along is it coming?

I also hope it will fix problems such as Slenderman and Shy Guy being unable to kill you on some moons if you're on the ship

Happens on Experiementation, Assurance, and StarlancerZero in my tests

[sullen solar]

That's basically the extend of the rewrite right now 😅

[clear prairie]

Fun lol

But yeah the EnemyAI stuff can be hit or miss depending on moon

[mental light]

Pog

[dapper crescent]

;-; this won't be optional ?

[sullen solar]

Unlikely

What's wrong with it?

[dapper crescent]

sad ;-; i'm personally not a fan of when mods deviate from the vanilla terminal input since it creates inconsistency with the vanilla commands

[winter remnant]

is there a patch mod to make this work with Wider Ship? I know it says compatibility will be added in the future but we don't have an ETA on that

[sullen solar]

The only mod I know of is the 2 Story Ship Mod.

It has support for Wider Ship and Ship Windows

[winter remnant]

Thanks for the suggestion but I don't think I want to a second story haha

[clear fractal]

Hey y'all. Anyone still using this mod should know that Masked consistently walk right through the closed front-door of your Ship and will usually kill at least one person before your crew can panic and launch.

[sullen solar]

Do you have another mod modifying the ship?
I don't think I've seen this behavior before

[clear fractal]

No. I already uninstalled this mod, sorry I can't provide further help by recreating the issue.

It was with the front door windows enabled.

[sullen solar]

@clear prairie, do you have similar a issue?

[clear prairie]

I've never had this happen

[clear prairie]

Likely a moon issue, not an issue with this mod

[clear fractal]

If it helps narrow down the issue I was on Asteroid-13 from Wesley's Moons

[clear prairie]

Never had this issue on there

[clear prairie]

You didn't disable the EnemyAI patch did you?

[clear fractal]

No, I don't even know where to find that option.

[clear prairie]

Okay then another question

Are you using vanilla mode?

Cus I don't use that

[clear fractal]

vanilla mode?

[violet gazelle]

currently stuck on the "You are Fired" Screen. Errors in the log point to ship windows

Though I am using this in tandem with the 2 story ship mod.

[blissful dune]

yeah, chances are this might be because I'm doing something on my end that's messing with something Ship Windows is trying to do. I can check into this in case that's what's happening, though I've never experienced this while using the 2 mods together

Did you change any mod configs by chance?

[clear prairie]

Double check they don't have some other mod such as CodeRebirth erroring first, I've had cases where one mod errors and then ShipWindows errors after

Which then causes it to get stuck

It's usually always a chain reaction

Also the reason it may just say ShipWindows here is cus the error might have occured on the client's end

[blissful dune]

ooh alrighty

[blissful dune]

hi, I'm obligated to double-check if you have any other mods, like CodeRebirth or anything that could cause a chain-reaction

have you tested if it stops happening without either of our mods on? That could also help decipher if these mods are part of a potential reaction, or just giving unrelated errors

[dusty sorrel]

Looks like this is because the posters on the walls of the ship were deleted by another mod. Ship windows tracks these and tries to restore them when the windows are despawned so everything goes back to a 'vanilla' state

[violet gazelle]

not that I know of

[violet gazelle]

Iirc I have the "dont move posters" on the ship mod

[violet gazelle]

gonna give it a try now

time to get fired x.x

aight

new error

this time it's.. WeatherRegistry

[clear prairie]

Yeah so it's a chain reaction somewhere, do you have any clients with you?

[violet gazelle]

Clients?

[clear prairie]

I saw what you said in the WR thread nvm lol, clients means if you have multiple people with you

Usually client's logs will catch the first thing that errored out

[violet gazelle]

ah I had friends last night. All same issue.

I only started testing now because we want to play again at Weekend so I need to fix it xD

[violet gazelle]

I do have one last thought incase it was just coincidence it worked after removing WeatherRegistry and that's the LethalSnap mod

mainly because just.. very very weirdly a polaroid keeps spawning in the Ship after each exit. And for friends it spawns during play. We usually just throw it away because it's broken

[clear prairie]

Yeah LethalSnap hasn't been updated in a while so

I would likely remove it

If it's doing that

[violet gazelle]

yeah im gonna test it with everything enabled except lethalsnap

only reason I thought about it was because Veri mentioned ship windows tracking and trying to restore essentially a 'vanilla' state

like if the polaroid is considered not there, it just breaks

[clear prairie]

Yeah if that mod is causing issues like you described idk why you've been keeping it to begin with

Issues like that are a sign to remove it

[violet gazelle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

friends adore the mod

and im a people pleaser :P

[clear prairie]

I mean yeah but if it's breaking and causing instabilitites that's when you remove it. My group and I all really love LethalThings but don't use it cus it's so broken v.v

[violet gazelle]

tho I have just noticed a very big lack of posters on my ship

[clear prairie]

You can add a mod like SmoothReservesDecor and add some lol

[violet gazelle]

nope. Says weather registry again

aight ty ^^

[sullen solar]

I'm guessing Weather Registry actually broke the lobby, but I'll still have a look at how to fix that Ship Windows error

[modern crescent]

could anyone pls explain to me how to use the 4k skybox version?

[sullen solar]

It's an Addon. You just install it alongside ShipWindows

[modern crescent]

no config editing needed?

ive installed 4k skybox before and nothing changed

[sullen solar]

Nope. ShipWindows should search for the 4k Skybox on lobby load

[sullen solar]

Can I see your log file?

[modern crescent]

i am using celestial tint, btw

maybe its not compat

[modern crescent]

sure 1 sec

[sullen solar]

You did configure ShipWindows to override Celestial Tint's Skybox, right?

[modern crescent]

thats what i was missing - fixed now

thanks for the help dude

loving your mods, btw

[sullen solar]

You're welcome 🙂

[sullen solar]

I appreciate it

[sullen solar]

Anyone tested some of my mods with v65?

[hard moth]

yes. No issues as of now with this

But one issues that still stands even before 65 is this. Dunno if it's something you can fix or some crusierfix/addition mod could fix but you can interact with the car from the inside of the ship with ship windows. Got CruiserAdditions that adds some features to the cruiser, one of which is activating/deactivating the magnet from the cruiser which is alittle bit of a problem

yes it will fall if i pull it. Kinda funny

[slender musk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1226670728019972218/1298506576683995136/TruckVoid.mp4?ex=671c72fc&is=671b217c&hm=8ff391dfe1a591672316b2dd37bd4670a0522312b1bada5c8504442cffe7130b&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1226670728019972218/1298506607247753306/TruckVoidFall.mp4?ex=671c7304&is=671b2184&hm=72acbd0a07636fee9bafc6d1273243bd23b510da3108dfa8b06fc0a46ead0a9b&

this bugged out the cruiser for a while for us
But i would say its on us

[hard moth]

whacha mean? almost looks like a vanilla-modpack lol

altho i have 300+ in my modpack so i shouldn't say anything

[slender musk]

it is mostly vanilla yeah
But even then, like, getting out of the ship and doing goofy stuff is our fault

i cant really complain about it

[sullen solar]

There's a mod that prevents the magnet from turning off in orbit.
You might want to try that

[slender musk]

https://tenor.com/view/no-i-dont-think-i-will-captain-america-old-capt-gif-17162888

[sullen solar]

Since you're using Celestial Tint, you can go outside anyways

[slender musk]

we have that option off

[sullen solar]

Don't want to have 301 mods?

[sullen solar]

Oh, interesting

[slender musk]

no i just think its funny

unless it crashed the game or something i dont mind

you need to clip out of the ship with furniture to even do it in our pack

i'll be called the fun police if i patch it out

[sullen solar]

I don't know if I really want to fix the interact issues... It would cause more issues than it fixes...

[echo tide]

Hi! Default posters appeared in their original locations when buying some ship windows. I have wide ship, two story ship, and ship inventory.

[jovial peak]

shrimply set "Dont move posters" to true in config

[stoic pewter]

Wait thats a thing?

why tf is it true?

[jovial peak]

It's default to false

[echo tide]

Ship Window config?

[jovial peak]

Yeah

[sullen solar]

What this person said

I might force this to true when using those mods in the future

[remote peak]

how did you set up the windows?

[lethal saddle]

what's the mod that gives you a second ship floor called?

[slender musk]

2 story ship, or melanie's 2 story ship or something like that
#1289403092307279907 message

[lethal saddle]

ty

[gray viper]

Why does VanillaMode = true remove the shutter switch? Could we have an option for a client-sided shutter switch?

Also regardless of that, thank you making this mod, it looks really nice!

[sullen solar]

I dunno how to make a client side unlockable 🤷

[gray viper]

It doesn't necessarily have to be unlockable, i just think that being able to close the windows at all would be nice even if you were the only person in the lobby with the mod

Sometimes i find it cozy to close the windows anyway

[dusty sorrel]

If there's a mod that lets you sell ship furniture then it should let you in theory

[gritty pecan]

I'm not sure, but it looks like these are stars from the windows?

[sullen solar]

What did you set the skybox to?

[gritty pecan]

what tab in the config? almost everything should be set to default

nvm, this i suppose

[sullen solar]

Those are actually the vanilla stars btw

They do follow you onto the moon, right?

[gritty pecan]

give me a sec

and they are gone

[sullen solar]

Interesting

[gritty pecan]

there are none in orbit now either

[sullen solar]

Yeah, I don't think those stars are the ShipWindows ones.

Especially since you didn't activate the Celestial Tint override

[gritty pecan]

OH

😅

[opal sparrow]

LOL

[gritty pecan]

stars still here after enabling tho

with override turned on too, but I didn't even notice the override itself

[sullen solar]

Override only takes effect, if you set the skybox to HDRI

[gritty pecan]

it is hdri

[sullen solar]

And there's no difference?

Because it works for me

[gritty pecan]

nope

[sullen solar]

So you always have a pure black space?

Please send a screenshot and your modpack code 😅

[gritty pecan]

no problem windows tho, because these stars appeared only after installing celestial tint

[gritty pecan]

I only see this

[gritty pecan]

01935522-72b8-1e51-529f-907109d5d683

[gritty pecan]

celestial tint disabled

[red charm]

[Error  : Unity Log] ArgumentNullException: Value cannot be null.
Parameter name: key
Stack trace:
System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2[TKey,TValue].FindEntry (TKey key) (at <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_0008)
System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2[TKey,TValue].ContainsKey (TKey key) (at <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_0000)
ShipWindows.Utilities.ObjectReplacer.Restore (UnityEngine.GameObject original) (at ./Utilities/ObjectReplacer.cs:85)
ShipWindows.Components.ShipWindow.OnDestroy () (at ./Components/ShipWindow.cs:31)

[sullen solar]

Do you have other Ship Replacing mods installed?

[red charm]

I'm using lunx modpack, so yes

[sullen solar]

I'll have a look, thanks

[gritty pecan]

Isn't this the same error that you tried to fix on GitHub but never posted an update?

[sullen solar]

Maybe 😅

[gritty pecan]

oh actually no, it's other one

[regal zephyr]

Does the lights underneath the ship take some performance? I'm trying to make my game less laggy around the ship area but idk where to start

[sullen solar]

Well, two more light sources shouldn't cause too much of an issue

[regal zephyr]

Okok, thank you. Just trying to make my modpack run smooth

Been working at it ever since this morning

[sullen solar]

You did install LethalPerformance already?

[regal zephyr]

yes

[hollow sun]

recreating the lobby gives this error log should i be worried?

[00:30:34.5039459] [Error : Unity Log] ArgumentNullException: Value cannot be null.
Parameter name: key
Stack trace:
System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary2[TKey,TValue].FindEntry (TKey key) (at <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_0008) System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary2[TKey,TValue].ContainsKey (TKey key) (at <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_0000)
ShipWindows.Utilities.ObjectReplacer.Restore (UnityEngine.GameObject original) (at ./Utilities/ObjectReplacer.cs:85)
ShipWindows.Components.ShipWindow.OnDestroy () (at ./Components/ShipWindow.cs:31)

[00:30:34.5049486] [Error : Unity Log] ArgumentNullException: Value cannot be null.
Parameter name: key
Stack trace:
System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary2[TKey,TValue].FindEntry (TKey key) (at <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_0008) System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary2[TKey,TValue].ContainsKey (TKey key) (at <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_0000)
ShipWindows.Utilities.ObjectReplacer.Restore (UnityEngine.GameObject original) (at ./Utilities/ObjectReplacer.cs:85)
ShipWindows.Components.ShipWindow.OnDestroy () (at ./Components/ShipWindow.cs:31)

[sullen solar]

If nothing breaks, it should be fine

I will fix this error eventually though

[verbal turret]

Is it true that this mod is being rewritten?

[sullen solar]

Yes, but that will take a while

[verbal turret]

I see

[remote peak]

So okay. And if I bought a new window, can I put it back in Storage? @sullen solar

[dark plume]

What? It's not a furniture.

[remote peak]

Nope

[gritty pecan]

it was not a question - you can't

[remote peak]

well, it's a pity...

[dark plume]

Why would a window be a furniture?

You can close it with a switch if you want.

[gritty pecan]

why buy a window at all just to remove it later

[dark plume]

That too.

[remote peak]

Sometimes saves break and additional windows appear

Which, for example, I don’t like

Okay, it doesn't matter anymore, I just wanted to clarify

[dark plume]

Maybe figure out what breaks then?

[remote peak]

It would be easier to limit them in the config

[remote peak]

Nothing

[dark plume]

That says otherwise.

[remote peak]

When you add or disable something related to Scrap or ship improvement to a mod

[dark plume]

You can.

[remote peak]

It's as if item IDs are mixed up and something is accidentally unlocked

[dark plume]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/SylviBlossom/SmartItemSaving/

[remote peak]

It's there

[gritty pecan]

just disable window that you don't like?

[remote peak]

Damn it, I forgot about him

He previously clashed with Remnants

But I deleted it, I think I’ll probably put it back

Thanks for reminding

Is it okay if you use them together?

Didn't SmartItemSaving die after V60? @gritty pecan

[gritty pecan]

idk

[remote peak]

I think I heard somewhere that this function should be in LLL

or in GI (but about it I’m not sure how it works there with modified items)

[dark plume]

Read SmartItemSaving features.

[dark plume]

It's not. It's just that you won't need SmartItemSaving if all custom items you have use LLL.

[remote peak]

Yes I know that

[dark plume]

Then why do you ask?

[remote peak]

Because I didn’t know before, but along the way I figured it out)

[harsh lava]

Wait vanilla mode makes it vanilla compatable?

[gray viper]

Yup!

It's very nice

If it kept the switch in, it would have been perfect for me, but the mod is already fantastic as-is

[boreal tendon]

it still works 4 me. i have quite a few custom items which would change or disappear when i reload the game but not now with this

[sullen solar]

:>

1.11.0

* Fixed NullReferenceException on re-host
# "Don't move posters" is now forcefully enabled, if another Ship Mod like 2 Story Ship is detected

[gritty pecan]

nice

hmm, now I need to remove that config option..

[sullen solar]

Hm?

[sullen solar]

Oh

[hot monolith]

@sullen solar what causes this error?

[clear prairie]

This was already fixed

You need to update the mod to latest version

[hot monolith]

it is updated?

do i delete the config?

[clear prairie]

It was updated yesterday to fix this

No

Just update the mod

[hot monolith]

it is updated

v1.11.0

[clear prairie]

You shouldn't be getting that error then

[hot monolith]

does shipwindows have any known incompatible mods?

[clear prairie]

Maybe pull the mod out, try clearing unused cache and readd it

It would be a caching issue probably so try that if you still get the error then I think Testy should look into it. I know in my own pack I tested the update and it didn't error though when testing the new version

So not sure why you're still getting the error

[clear prairie]

Not that I'm aware of

[hot monolith]

got the same error

[clear prairie]

I also noticed you reported an issue in Furniture Lock's thread so it could be a mod conflict potentially. I'll let TestAccount and Matty look into helping you resolve that

[hot monolith]

wait i just realized shipwindows isnt causing the softlock

[hot monolith]

ok i found out what was causing the softlock

it was coderebirth

it seems to be the new update

[hollow sun]

i think the latest update broke those lamps

they don't cast that shimmering anymore

[gentle void]

Blessing in disguise? Lol

[chilly lake]

what do you mean "broke", it clearly fixed the lamp

[hollow sun]

i mean i prefer vanilla

maybe add it as config option

[regal zephyr]

The ship lamps seem to be super foggy on moons

I noticed it everytime I landed on a moon

[sullen solar]

Seems specific to the HDRI Space skybox

[hollow sun]

it is set space hdri

[sullen solar]

Yeah... Space HDRI seems to cause this

[hollow sun]

have you touched it last update?

[sullen solar]

Nope

I did have to re-do the skybox when I moved to my current Unity Project though

[limpid lily]

hello~
just gonna ask why the shutter lever don't save its coordinates position when using furniture lock when starting a save

[sullen solar]

The shutter switch is currently not properly done.

This will change in future updates

[remote peak]

Every time something goes wrong, the save breaks - unnecessary windows are bought. it would be useless to disable them in the terminal

[sullen solar]

I don't think that's a ShipWindows specific issue though...

In my save files, for example, I keep unlocking the CodeRebirth stuff without my consent

[remote peak]

well I only have one solution

disable unnecessary windows in advance and never buy them

and then it’s possible if the save is broken and we buy random upgrade windows - this simply won’t happen because of the blocking, probably...

[atomic pond]

hi

the shipwindow mod is not showing the planet

the 4k skybox

[clear prairie]

The planet is literally right out of the window lol

You just don't have Chameleon to have the sun shine on it

[atomic pond]

its just a black sphere

oh chameleon is another mod, i think this should be a dependency

[clear prairie]

I mean the visual difference with the 4k skybox is honestly so minor

[atomic pond]

ok fixd

[sullen solar]

[karmic vigil]

With the setting BLACK_AND_STARS, the stars generate over the outside prop moon :(
The star sphere is too small :(

[sullen solar]

This is known... Not sure when/if I'll fix it tho

[clear prairie]

Whenever you finally do that much needed rewrite

[sullen solar]

There's still a few uncertainties about the rewrite...

If everything works like I want it to, other devs can just add new windows (Maybe even json based?) to the mod and it just works.

If not, I'll have to think of a good compromise

[karmic vigil]

Json window recreation of the entire ship

Fly a ship made out of glass

[gritty pecan]

the only way i see for other authors to create new windows is something like:

• search objects with some script(component) attached
• create shop item for each window
• bind window gameobject to this shop item
• if this shop item is bought then swap materials and layers (and maybe something else) to windows material and layer

[sullen solar]

If the things we discussed per dm work, I could definitely make ShipWindows json powered

[fading agate]

that jason guy better get his shit together then

[kind lake]

Nothing major but thought I'd bring it to light anyway, the shutter switch info node goes absolutely haywire when the ship is moving.

for reference

[sullen solar]

Yeah... No idea why that happened 😅

The scan node is parented to the switch, so it wouldn't move like that unless the switch itself is moving like that

[kind lake]

[dusty sorrel]

I had thought of some ideas like chopping the ship up into small pieces that could be swapped out, turning it into voxels, or even mesh reconstruction, but that was after I burned out, plus I'm not that skilled with unity/c# tbh. I'm curious what you plan to do

The ship model being a monolith really complicates things for other modders now that ship mods are becoming more common, and makes compatibility difficult

[sullen solar]

Well, I can dm you my plan.
I don't want to throw it in here unless I know if it is feasible

[dusty sorrel]

Yeah sure, I'd love to hear it

[hearty wedge]

also kinda curious ngl

[frank lynx]

Hey it seems like Wesley voicelines take a long time to load

Like, a full 4-5 minutes

[sullen solar]

That would make your computer load them slower than a dial-up modem from the 90s, if I did my research correctly

It's 1.1MB, I don't think the voice lines are the problem here

Can you give me a log?

[frank lynx]

Nothing weird on them, but I'll fetch them rn

[frank lynx]

I could be bad at time keeping, but the computer was heating up, and the CPU was at 100%

[clear prairie]

I've not experienced this, are you sure your computer doesn't just have like a virus or something? Granted I no longer use Ship Windows due to the random risk of save corruption but Wesley's lines are fine

If it's taking 4-5 minutes to load some voicelines and your cpu is hitting 100% you got something else going on

[frank lynx]

I've seen it do it before, and it was at the same place while loading

Im starting lethal rn and Its doing it again

[clear prairie]

As someone who used to use Ship Windows constantly it's not Ship Windows I can tell you this much

[frank lynx]

I've used it a lot before, Its a recent thing

[clear prairie]

Yeah and it hasn't updated recently, so I suspect it's another mod you've added or your machine has caught a virus or some malware or something

That's not normal behavior

[frank lynx]

Doubt Its a malware, only this does it

Could I send the modpack? Im not sure what kind of mod could cause issues like this

The profile code, I mean

[clear prairie]

I would send your log and a pack code yeah, cus it's certainly not Ship Windows. That way @sullen solar can look into it lol

[frank lynx]

0194c952-d8da-f164-b4b2-1d28b5157a84 is the profile code

Ok heres the actual log. "Program isnt responding" popup showed up while I was typing, so the game closed

Started the game again, Shipwindows disabled, game started fine

Log of this second attempt

[frank lynx]

I think I found the issue, it loaded fine with ship windows with enable Wesley sell audio set to true

[sullen solar]

[00:55:01.3167874] [Info   :ShipWindows] Loading ShipWindow AssetBundle...
[00:55:04.0341125] [Info   :ShipWindows] Loading Wesley voice lines...
[00:57:49.9140077] [Info   :ShipWindows] Loaded line 'ShutterClose'!
[00:58:03.5372177] [Info   :ShipWindows] Loaded line 'ShutterOpen'!
[00:58:03.5372177] [Info   :ShipWindows] Loaded successfully!
[00:58:03.5372177] [Info   :   BepInEx] Loading [WiderShipMod 1.3.12]
[00:58:03.5611503] [Info   :WiderShipMod] Loading AssetBundle...

Load time seems fine 🤔

[sullen solar]

Also, can you please elaborate on that "Save Corruption"?

I always start my Testing modpack and never experienced anything like that.

The only thing was items falling through the ship, which was fixed a long time ago afaik

[clear prairie]

It's just in longer play sessions sometimes stuff hidden through LethalPipeRemoval and stuff will reappear which means the save has corrupted

I've been doing a long save file rn with Wesley's Journeys without Ship Windows and it hasn't occurred so I think it's something to do with the Shutter Switch and how it isn't registered properly

[sullen solar]

And this stuff still re-appears upon loading the save again?

And only that save?

Otherwise this isn't save corruption as nothing has been corrupted

[clear prairie]

It's pretty random but yeah that does corrupt the save, it usually breaks other things too

[stray rain]

have a problem were i cant buy the door window

[sullen solar]

What does it say?

Do you have the door window enabled?

Also, logs please

[stray rain]

i just have the default config settings its only the door window i cant buy

how do i find the logs?

[gritty pecan]

shouldn't it just be "door"?

[stray rain]

thats opens the door

oh sorry yeah its door window but yeah that dose not work either

meybe its because i both have darmuhsTerminalStuff and TerminalFormatter?

[fading agate]

why don't you type door window instead of window door?

[fading agate]

maybe

[stray rain]

yeah it was a mistake but yeah door window dose not work

[fading agate]

weird

[stray rain]

okay found out you cant buy the door window with darmuhsTerminalStuff it works now without darmuhsTerminalStuff

[sullen solar]

Oh... I kinda forgot about people using that...

I wonder... Does buy door work?

[sullen solar]

Oh, I see it has been resolved already

[sullen solar]

I might be able to get a working Ship Windows Beta out soon.

Windows will probably look different and be at a (slightly?) different positions than before

[gritty pecan]

🤔

cant wait for it to break compatibility

with ws and 2ss

[sullen solar]

Oh yeah... Very important for @gritty pecan and @blissful dune

[sullen solar]

Oh... And how break it will

[gritty pecan]

Will this be a separate mod or you want to release it into the main one?

beta i mean

[sullen solar]

I will upload this as a separate mod as I'm not confident to make everything work without having multiple people test it first

Well... First I have to learn how to split a Mesh in Blender

[gritty pecan]

select and separate -> separate by selection

[sullen solar]

Sounds easier than it apparently is.
There are parts of the floor that I cannot select

[gritty pecan]

for example?

if these parts are hidden behind another mesh then you need to enter xray mode

[sullen solar]

Yeah... I'm just gonna pray to some eldritch gods that I select the correct things

[gritty pecan]

[sullen solar]

Things are shifting slightly, but I don't think that's a problem

[final salmon]

you can just change the keyword in the config btw

[drowsy cave]

TestAccount,

A user posted an error report on my mod and I'm curious if you know any leads as to what may be going on? It seems to be some weird triangle of mod conflicts or something?

https://github.com/TheSoftDiamond/BrutalCompanyMinusExtraReborn/issues/2#issuecomment-2632900779

[sullen solar]

Unless this breaks, I don't have any leads right now 🤔

[drowsy cave]

Ah

[south portal]

Maybe the problem may be in the visibility synchronization of the enemies.

[gritty pecan]

same, no idea

[stray rain]

Oh okay thank you i did not know that

[gritty pecan]

spawned only with Imperium, WS and ShipWindows and everything is visible normally 🤔

[south portal]

The error only occurs in multiplayer, you need to be with at least a second person to replicate the error.

[sullen solar]

I think I figured out why there's some shifting going on ;-;

Yes... That is a hole into space

[clear prairie]

@winged flower TestAccount has been trying to kill us

[winged flower]

[sullen solar]

In my defense... Rodrigo made the cuts

[sullen solar]

So umm... Iridescence looks very weird for some reason

[sullen solar]

I think that looks fine

[gritty pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-stare-window-sad-depressed-gif-15694452

[sullen solar]

Ummmm... Ooops 😅

[gritty pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-cat-huh-small-cat-huh-what-gif-2593177363967991691

[sullen solar]

I don't think that's much better

[gritty pecan]

floor with iridescence

[sullen solar]

This is getting ridiculous

It works, if I manually reset the ship, but not after the fire sequence

[sullen solar]

-# Got it to work ~

[sullen solar]

Door Windows now work just fine :3

-# (Except they don't, oopsie)

Much better

[sullen solar]

I want to finish the Shutters and then I will post the first beta version ^^

Btw... Right now, the AssetBundle is already much smaller.
18.9MB -> 3MB

And I don't expect it to increase too much in size anymore

[sullen solar]

I feel like the floor shutter looks too much like concrete

[glacial temple]

yup

[clear prairie]

I agree but the animation is certainly much nicer lol

[sullen solar]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TestAccount666/ShipWindowsBeta/

Posted the beta version for you guys to explore and find issues

@clear prairie, you better not add this to your modpack and complain about it being riddled with bugs

[clear prairie]

Complain no, but inform you of issues yes lol

So right now is it only the floor and door windows?

And do we know how compat with Wider + 2 story ship is gonna work? Cus I think Mel did like a whole custom cutout for the original one lol

[gritty pecan]

no

[clear prairie]

She didn't?

I remember messing with ShipColors befoer and seeing the spot for it though

[gritty pecan]

no compat with beta*

[clear prairie]

Ah got ya

[jovial peak]

i like how the shutterswitch price is a slider but the windows are not

[clear prairie]

Lmk if you and Mel get compat going cus I'm guessing the beta should contain all the new window designs and placements

@sullen solar I'm ngl though I kinda hope we can have a config option to also have the original floor Window, I really like both designs

But that might be too complicated

[gritty pecan]

it's not hard considering that the beta now has a API, but I think I'll wait until at least the rest of the windows are done

[clear prairie]

Very fair

I would imagine in Mel's case she won't need to change much besides the compat for the new floor Window, since she already has her Window placements all setup

Cus her ship has Windows even without ShipWindows

lol

[jovial peak]

there are no wall windows

[clear prairie]

Yeah I know, they haven't been added yet

[jovial peak]

You effectively just have a windowless ship

besides the door windows

[clear prairie]

and floor

lol

[jovial peak]

with 2story wider + windows beta

[clear prairie]

ah weird

I'm guessing cus the wall windows can't be located, you would think it would just use Mel's original ones

XD

[sullen solar]

Feature... Definitely a feature :3

[jovial peak]

:3

[sullen solar]

Btw... I haven't tested the vanilla mode at all so far 😅

[clear prairie]

Lul

[sullen solar]

Yeah... No compat with wider ship and 2 story ship yet

[jovial peak]

Ye

[sullen solar]

ShipColors probably won't work yet either 😅

[clear prairie]

Yeah I'm just very surprised Mel's original Wall windows don't work

[clear prairie]

It should

It's not really relying on your end anymore

lol

[jovial peak]

Shutter Switch not available if you have it to set to be unlocked automatically :b

[clear prairie]

Although ideally you should eventually convert your changes to a section dedicated for ShipWindows

for ShipColors

[sullen solar]

Not sure what that's supposed to mean

[clear prairie]

Like how Mel has MelanieShip and MelanieShip2

for example

[jovial peak]

Currently stuff like the Window Shutters are parented under vanilla objects

[clear prairie]

so for ShipWindows you could do something like TestAccount666.ShipWindows or just make it be ShipWindows

[sullen solar]

That's probably a bug with TestAccountCore then 🤔

[jovial peak]

maybe

[sullen solar]

Well... Considering that I mostly bring the vanilla ship anyways, I'm unsure what additional entries are going to do for me

Oh... The shutters... You want to colorize the shutters?

[jovial peak]

ShipColors can do it already

[clear prairie]

Well also ShipWindows used to replace some parts of the Vanilla ship model

[clear prairie]

We're talking about having a dedicated ShipWindows entry in ShipColors

lol

like what Mel did

[jovial peak]

Sure

Not even gonna bother

[sullen solar]

For example? 😅
I only know about some things being disabled and the additional flood lights beneath the ship

[clear prairie]

I don't remember but I remember some of the walls and stuff would change entry if ShipWindows was enabled or disabled

lol

but I think that's cus the current version replaces the Ship model

[sullen solar]

I mean... The beta does too, but with one that's cut into pieces

[clear prairie]

But yeah like Endox said the Shutter Switch actually shows up with it's own entry in ShipColors at least

lol

[sullen solar]

Yippee

Celestial Tint support still works btw

[jovial peak]

I think

What's REALLY funny

Is the way you're doing things

I think technically makes ShipColors more customizable for the ship

You normally can't control the color of one side of the walls, but... you can now...

[sullen solar]

I totally didn't completely forget about eating today, because I was working on Ship Windows for the entire day

[jovial peak]

Ah! So colorful!

@final salmon 🦭

[gritty pecan]

no way spamton door

[jovial peak]

same going for outside the ship of course

[sullen solar]

Good to hear that everything seems to be working with ShipColors :3

[sullen solar]

Anyone tried it in multiplayer yet?

[sullen solar]

Also... What do you guys think about the new skybox?

[clear prairie]

You think we might get a beta with the wall windows soon?

👀

I feel like for the ones on the wall the ones from the original Ship Windows should stay

If possible

[sullen solar]

The other two windows are coming soon

[clear prairie]

Yay

[sullen solar]

I probably won't be able to make them perfectly look like the original ones, but I'll try my best

[clear prairie]

Yeah it's doable, I mean Mel somehow made the cutouts look almost 1:1 with her ship mod lol

[sullen solar]

I'm not mel tho

[clear prairie]

True but I'm saying if she could do it then you also can XD, meaning I have faith in you

[sullen solar]

Well, at least 1 out of 2 people have faith in me

[jovial peak]

I suspect you're not gonna get too many testers here due to all the people who are here often playing with 2story + Widership

[sullen solar]

Probably...

[clear prairie]

That is why I asked for the Wall Windows to come back

So that way people playing with can have those

[jovial peak]

I doubt that'll make it compatible with 2story wider

lol

[clear prairie]

Maybe

[jovial peak]

Mel/Fumo would probably have to do something on their end

The floor window exists but it doesn't work with them

oh and yeah the new skybox is clean

[clear prairie]

Even if it did it would probably use the old cutout

[jovial peak]

uh

maybe?

[sullen solar]

They'll probably have to build on top of ShipWindows.

I don't think the amount of windows will change anything

[clear prairie]

Reason I say this Endox remember when you mess with ShipColors without ShipWindows present

you can literally see the cutout for the floor window

til you do a lobby reload

Mel literally added a cutout for it

[jovial peak]

idk what that has to do with anything

like I said, the Beta has the floor window, but it doesn't work with 2story+wider

[sullen solar]

Yay, the first feedback

[clear prairie]

I'm just saying she will likely need to redo the floor window cutout

When she adds support

[jovial peak]

Fair

Anyway

[clear prairie]

I do wanna see this new Skybox now

[sullen solar]

Why would that be necessary?

Just disable the roof and put the second story on top

[jovial peak]

the darker red and purple is more pleasing to me

There will probably be someone asking for the old one though

[sullen solar]

Or wait... This is about wider ship?

[clear prairie]

Wider + 2SS

Hold on lemme find the screen

[jovial peak]

this is 2story+wider ship with the ShipWindows Beta

[sullen solar]

And I will probably upload a separate mod that adds the old skybox

[clear prairie]

If you change the color of the floor before doing a lobby reload without ShipWindows present Mel did a custom cutout for it

lol

It's kinda cool tbh

[sullen solar]

Depending on how the floor is cut, they might only need to make their own wall windows

[clear prairie]

it would just need to be altered to fit the new shape

[clear prairie]

Yeah which shows it registers ShipWindows being present but it can't grab the Windows for the walls, cus if it didn't register it then it would use Mel's default windows, also the material applies to the Window on the 3rd floor

[sullen solar]

Well, I'll keep working on ship windows later today.

Maybe I'll even add the missing windows today

[clear prairie]

Yeah I suspect so long as you add them with the same name or whatever Wider + 2 story calls to grab them for the Walls with current ShipWindows everything will work besides the new floor Window

[sullen solar]

Kinda funny since the beta ship windows has a different guid than the original

[clear prairie]

Might be why it doesn't register the floor window

Dunno

[sullen solar]

That won't be happening because of how the new window system works, you know that?

I'm 100% sure they will have to re-do support

[clear prairie]

True

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/MelanieMelicious/MelanieMelicious_2_sToRy_ShIp__works_w_Wider_Ship_Mod/source/ I'm curious what you might find in the source for how it pulls support though

New skybox is wicked nice

[sullen solar]

Oh... StartsWith, so the mod actually thinks ShipWindows is installed

[clear prairie]

Yeah so like I said when you add the Wall Windows it should just work

lol

Dunno though

Also hope you fix that TestAccountCore bug where Always Unlocked isn't working

@blissful dune If you have free time, how easy would it be for you to add support for the new floor Window btw?

[clear prairie]

Also Wesley Shutter lines aren't implemented yet I imagine?

Wait no I need to actually get the door window probably

Lol

[sullen solar]

Just adding won't work.

I'm not gonna name it like it was previously.

"Window1" and "Window2" aren't very good names

[clear prairie]

Rip

[jovial peak]

What would be good names

[clear prairie]

I kinda agree

[sullen solar]

They are loaded, but unused

[sullen solar]

Yeah... I hope so too

[clear prairie]

Btw Endox how do I fix this mess?

lol

I can't find the name for the other door

[jovial peak]

Under the same object but I haven't checked if it's different with 2storyWider

[clear prairie]

It won't be, 2storywider doesn't touch the ship doors at all

[jovial peak]

AnimatedShipDoor

One of the options in the first half or whatever

[clear prairie]

Ehhh I can't find it

[jovial peak]

It can not be that hard

[sullen solar]

I believe in you

[clear prairie]

🤷‍♀️ I literally just don't see it

[clear prairie]

It already shows they're the same color

It's just not working Yippeee

[sullen solar]

Just start seeing it

[jovial peak]

Shutters also don't work

with 2story wider

[clear prairie]

Odd

Probably cus it's trying to register the other windows

Btw Always Unlock seems to work for the door but not the switch

Maybe the Shutter Switch is still registered strangely?

[clear prairie]

So what was bloating the size of the old ShipWindows so much btw?

Since you said the new version shouldn't be that large

[hot monolith]

does the beta work with 2story?

[clear prairie]

no

[sullen solar]

No. The windows are no longer unlockables

That's why there's a difference

[clear prairie]

Ah

But good though, not having them registered as furnitures is amazing

[sullen solar]

[hot monolith]

alert

[gritty pecan]

no way

[sullen solar]

Should I keep it like that, or make it a bit thinner again?

That's the original btw:

(I'm gonna move the window a bit to the right regardless of the size)

[blissful dune]

oh okay, guess time to prepare compat

oh wait, uh, maybe I should wait to see if people want the wider or thinner windows before doing that part

[hot monolith]

thinner

[gritty pecan]

wait until the other windows come out, who knows how the API will change during this time (most likely it won't change, but just in case)

[sullen solar]

There's actually one pending API change

Added in case I or someone else wants to make alternative versions of some window type

[tough drift]

what's the difference between shipwindows and shipwindowsbeta

[clear prairie]

Definitely thinner, the wider one looks like it's nearly clipping into the filter and the thinner one just has good vibes

[sullen solar]

Stability, Compatibility and Features.

The beta version is an ongoing rewrite

[tough drift]

is there a reason it's being rewritten

[sullen solar]

I mean... The wider one would also be moved to the right so it doesn't look like it clips into the filter

[clear prairie]

I still prefer the original I think idk why lol

[sullen solar]

The code was impossible to maintain in my opinion and some things could be handled better.

For example, in the beta version the ship is cut into 6 pieces.

This allows me to not require a model for every possible combination of windows

[tough drift]

ah i see, thanks

[hazy iris]

Ooh, nice to see it's getting rewritten, good luck and be well in your journey, Test 🫡

I wondered how annoying/complicated it would be to either have a config or a mod to overwrite the skybox texture in your opinion

Cause I like variation in any ways, but like the skybox is already gorgeous ofc

[sullen solar]

If you're talking about the ShipWindows skybox, I actually have a public method for that.
Any mod could change the skybox

[hazy iris]

Yes, talking about that chief 🫡

[jovial peak]

the og thinner probably works better

better symmetry with the window opposite wall

[hazy iris]

I also agree, the thinner looks more "appealing"

it feels less out of place-ish

[sullen solar]

Okay, thinner it is

[hazy iris]

Do you plan on adding more windows or you just like revisit them?

[tough drift]

option to turn the whole ship into one big window when

[hazy iris]

Hahaha, glass ship

[sullen solar]

I did think about a roof window

Also, maybe alternate versions of the currently existing windows

[clear prairie]

That's why it felt so off, I knew something felt weird about the wider design lol

[hazy iris]

Ooh you got me at alternate versions

[clear prairie]

You can actually do this if you use Mel's ship

[sullen solar]

Why not just delete the ship entirely? :>

[hazy iris]

Funny lol, does any of Mel's mods change more "fundamentaly" the shape of ship? or is it only 2 story / wider ship for now?

[clear prairie]

I have wider with 3 stories

[hazy iris]

Out of context here but god I'd love a "figther" kind of ship, or another kind of alternate shape of the ship yk

even though, that's not Lethal lol

[tough drift]

what the hell lol

[clear prairie]

2 story ship has a 3rd floor you can enable lol

[sullen solar]

Just wait for the 666 stories update :3

[jovial peak]

I think fumo was doing stuff with ship shapes that weren’t just “giant box”

[hazy iris]

ship be looking like british busses lol

[hazy iris]

that's interesting, was it like a mod in the works or just a bit of messing around in dev?

[jovial peak]

Shrug

[hazy iris]

Gotcha, still interesting

[tough drift]

honestly I think having a claustrophobic ship fits the game better

[hazy iris]

I actually like wanted so bad another shape of ship, when I saw the crashed ships models that can be seen on USC Vortex

[clear prairie]

||Just adds a 4th floor with Satanic Rituals that previous crews did||

[hazy iris]

but they are like fighters ships

[sullen solar]

I'm gonna make ship pyramid :3

[hazy iris]

could have a like smaller ship, I never said a bigger ship :ppp

i like the current size of the ship like base game

just like an exterior change you know

ahh sorry you were reacting to Wide ship and 2/3 story ship mods I believe

[tough drift]

I mean yeah same I like the size but I think the ship design itself could be better

[hazy iris]

yeah that's for sure

but that's nice to know modders are messing around with the ship sizes and shapes, that reassures me that someday we could have alternate shapes of ships

[sullen solar]

Ngl... I do have a vision forming inside my head

[hazy iris]

honestly I like weird shaped ships and stuff so, I could deffo see me using it

[sullen solar]

Well, I'll see you when I upload it, my only user

[hazy iris]

A pyramidal space ship is kinda familiar though, isn't there one in Stargate or sum??

[hazy iris]

Anytime 🫡

[hazy iris]

https://www.gateworld.net/wiki/Ra's_mothership damn i'm good lol

[sullen solar]

I wouldn't know... I never really watched it

[hazy iris]

sick

[hazy iris]

I think it's even on a single movie or something but yeah

lmao

[gritty pecan]

oh yeah, i remember that one line 🤭 i think there was like 6 versions of ship?

[gritty pecan]

webley pyramid ship

[sullen solar]

@winged flower, I'm gonna turn you into a ship :>

[winged flower]

oh dear

[south portal]

With the new version, does the bug of invisible enemies persist when you have wider ship installed?

[south belfry]

if you're making a webley ship you better replace every single ship-related sound effect with his voice somehow

it'd be funny

[sullen solar]

(Ignore the wrong textures, I messed them up)

[sullen solar]

I was not able to have a look yet

[gritty pecan]

squeak sfx

[south belfry]

yes even the squeak

[clear prairie]

@blissful dune Looks like you should be able to get compat for new ShipWindows going, new beta with the left wall window dropped

[severe minnow]

@sullen solar how do I remove this

[gritty pecan]

remove what

if you mean that pipe then its vanila

[severe minnow]

no the pink window

when I look at a angle it changes to pink

[gritty pecan]

it's just how iridescence works

[sullen solar]

You change the glass material in the config

[solar pagoda]

is it me or when you use the "shutter close/open" lever, it doesnt update on clients?

sometimes i open the shutters, and they close and vica versa. I think because my friends closed/opened them, not sure.

[sullen solar]

What version are you talking about? 😅

Beta or normal?

[solar pagoda]

normal, didnt know there is a beta

[sullen solar]

Hm, that's weird...
The shutter should be networked 🤔

The beta should be done soon, so I'm unsure how much sense it would make to fix this

[solar pagoda]

well im checking out the issue on the beta now, so ill let you know if it occurs there too xD

[sullen solar]

That would be great. Just keep in mind that the beta is not compatible with wider or 2 story ship yet

[solar pagoda]

thats fine, im not using those in my test profile, but uh, where is the shutter switch? i made it available always, and its enabled, but, i cant see the switch xD

[sullen solar]

Oh, yeah... Bug in TestAccountCore.

Just buy it instead

[solar pagoda]

oh, so i need to make it unavailable always and buy it?

[sullen solar]

Yeah. You can set the price to 0 tho

[solar pagoda]

yeah thats cool just trying to understand... but umm

weirdness has occured.

[sullen solar]

[solar pagoda]

i made it always available -> nothing
i quit game, closed game.. changed the setting to "not always available" and now it automatically appeared on next game load...

[sullen solar]

Interesting

[solar pagoda]

also.. it was said to me you had no plans to fix the "shutter switch always moves back to its original location" issue... but it seems in beta the switch moved to the location i wanted it to be.. automatically.. xD

in the beta, the shutters are synced 🙂 guess i need to switch to the beta xD

[sullen solar]

There were no plans because I wanted to fix it in the rewrite 😅

[solar pagoda]

yeah i figured that once i read what you said about if there was desync in the non beta xD

[severe minnow]

Can you make the shutter switch able to be moved

[sullen solar]

It's movable in both versions.

It should even save the new position in the beta

[sullen solar]

This window has given me so much trouble...

[solar pagoda]

yeah i can confirm in the beta the position is saveable.

[gritty pecan]

TheSuperDuperProject

[sullen solar]

Yes

[clear prairie]

Well because native ShipWindows moves the poster, I'm guessing the poster has been annoying to move?

[sullen solar]

As you can see, the posters have not been moved.

I'm talking about the actual window 😅

I had to work with fumo to even make it.
The ship model is not very straight/flat

And after that, the model was still messed up and required a lot of fixing.

I'm glad fumo even put up with me and that model 😅

[clear prairie]

Oof

I bet Veri also had a hard time with that one

lol

[clear prairie]

Glad Fumo was able to help you though

Hopefully once you get this new beta going with the new window it will make it possible for Mel and Fumo to do updates to Wider + 2SS for support for the Beta

[sullen solar]

I'm a massive idiot...

[clear prairie]

Be nice to yourself lol you got this

[sullen solar]

I did good, no?

Perfect

[severe minnow]

What is refraction do?

@sullen solar

[sullen solar]

-# (Pings are unnecessary)

[severe minnow]

mb

but what does it do?

[sullen solar]

Actually, I take that back. I prefer being pinged over missing messages

[severe minnow]

I'll use reply :D

[severe minnow]

So what do all of these do?

[sullen solar]

It makes the window look better, but breaks a few things.

For example, you won't be able to see bees through the windows

[severe minnow]

oh

[severe minnow]

Also I was getting a issue where herbione and football were unable to hurt me in the ship and would just phase into me, but as soon as I step out of the ship, it would fix. Is this causing that.

[sullen solar]

That might cause this, yeah

This is not fixed with the beta

I'll default it to false in the next beta update tho

[severe minnow]

Ok and last thing, what does space HDRI mean?

[tough drift]

personally think both refraction and iridescence look kinda ugly tbh but that's just me

[wide compass]

hey i know its unrelated to this mod but
is there a mod to give infinite sprint
i used to use a mod called like sprint plus or something
but i think that mods gone now

[sullen solar]

Please ask in #modding-general or smth.

If you're looking for a client-side infinite sprint mod, good luck, I guess

I only know of Imperium tbh

[wide compass]

alright

[severe minnow]

@sullen solar Do you know how to fix this?

The stars overlap with the planet

[sullen solar]

I could make the sphere bigger, but that would decrease the star density and might even put them out of view distance 🤔

Wait, nvm, this is Celestial Tint

Ship Windows doesn't have control over that then

[severe minnow]

is there a difference with space HDRI and Black And Stars?

[sullen solar]

If you enabled the Celestial Tint override, the HDRI space will use an actual skybox

[severe minnow]

whats the difference

[sullen solar]

Completely different look + no stars in front of the planet/moon

[severe minnow]

But if I dont have the override whats the difference

[sullen solar]

Nothing. Celestial Tint overrides then

[gritty pecan]

i just wanted to instal ws and ship windows beta in one pack, not other 11 mods 💀

[sullen solar]

Well... Beta has quite a few dependencies

[severe minnow]

Oh so, no override with black and star uses your black and stars. And override with anything uses celestial tints?

[sullen solar]

No... If CT is detected, ShipWindows won't do anything unless the override is activated.
And then only HDRI is supported

Pretty sure the stars in front of the planet are not ShipWindows' doing

Especially not ShipWindowsBeta's doing

[sullen solar]

What do you guys think?

[jovial peak]

Other than it being assymetrical, which is probably the ship itself anyway, it looks chill

[gritty pecan]

i would say both

didnt noticed that until now

[jovial peak]

[clear prairie]

I kinda think the ceiling windows look odd but that's just me

[jovial peak]

where would u put them

[clear prairie]

I just wouldn't have them at all tbh

[jovial peak]

Wouldn't hurt for some form of ceiling windows to exist since it'd (likely) be optional anyway

[clear prairie]

Ye

I think it's a good idea it just looks weird to me

[final salmon]

would be pretty neat to have a big window in the center and just move/remove the lamps

[gritty pecan]

then we will get dark ship

[jovial peak]

Could see about making use of the uh

useless lights that are on the walls

[gritty pecan]

These lights turn red during "disciplinary action"

[jovial peak]

these stupid fucks

ok and

we can make them multi purpose 💅

[final salmon]

better use for cozy lights

[jovial peak]

can move the normal hanging lights anyway

they're the most noticeable off center

😭😭

[clear prairie]

The Vanilla ship has so much wrong with it

Zeekerss jank

[jovial peak]

what else is wrong with it

[clear prairie]

I mean a lot of it just isn't even in terms of design

It's also silly for it to be so small after the emphasis on buying furniture was added but we have mods to fix that

[jovial peak]

not really

nor do either of those statements really answer my question

[clear prairie]

Well the extra unused assets that always get loaded btw

Like the extra door models and stuff

[jovial peak]

oh yeah those

[clear prairie]

Mel actually removed a lot of it for her 2 story ship mod to optimize the ship some

[jovial peak]

hardly matters though

[sullen solar]

Beta 2.2.0 posted. At this point, I think I could replace the original.

Hope to get more testing first though

@gritty pecan, you can slowly start working on support, probably.

Or wait until I add the documentation 🤷

For your case, you probably don't need much of it tho

[gritty pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-goofy-cat-silly-cat-sleepy-cat-bruh-cat-gif-8253677982411156146

[clear prairie]

@blissful dune you too please

I wanna have new Ship Windows on Saturday hopefully

[clear prairie]

Does the Shutter Switch auto unlock properly now if it's set to btw?

[sullen solar]

That's a TestAccountCore issue, so no

[clear prairie]

Okay well lmk when you get this fixed

c;

[sullen solar]

Good night everyone

[clear prairie]

Sleep well bud you deserve it ^^

[clear prairie]

Btw @sullen solar is it intended for the "Alert!! Opening the Ship's Shutters" line to play when creating a fresh lobby XD

Oh god it sometimes triggers the Diversity speaker too cus it triggers the speaker disable after the voiceline plays XD

LOL

[clear prairie]

It seems to not be consistent though XD

[jovial peak]

My feedback includes:

• Iridescence seems to make it a bit hard to see out the Floor and Ceiling windows?? unsure
  • Right window iridescence is too weak?? also unsure
• ShipColors update lol

[jovial peak]

are the Door Windows duplicated?

oh one for outside the ship and one for inside...?

ShipColors is soooo fun

[clear prairie]

I'm just waiting for support for Wider + 2SS tbh

[jovial peak]

really showing the little things... like the double window thing for the Door Windows, and the texture on the inside of this protruding trim thing on the right door

[clear prairie]

Excited though, especially since new ShipWindows is way more optimized

[jovial peak]

and how one of the left window/window shutter and the floor window shutters can't be colored anymore loool

[clear prairie]

That looks better ingame from your screenshot than it did in the picture from earlier

tbh

[jovial peak]

wha

[clear prairie]

The pictures Test sent I didn't really see much of anything for ceiling windows

Lol

[jovial peak]

other image was me pointing out the gaping holes in the wall

anyway

[clear prairie]

Oh yeah, okay what I noticed was just the iridescence being weird at the end

I never noticed the full windows

That's why I thought it looked weird

LOL

[jovial peak]

the iridescence is still weird

square shaped but it curves

[clear prairie]

Yeah

Iridescence doesn't look good on the ceiling windows

[jovial peak]

I think it's just really prominent

both it and the floor window's iridescence seem really strong along not fully covering them

[clear prairie]

Yeah it was much more subtle with the live version of ShipWindows

I kinda prefer the more subtle iteration

[jovial peak]

and then the Right Window and the Door Window's iridescence seem near non-existant

Left Window looks good though (but does have the sad customization ShipColors issue of not being colorable currently)

[clear prairie]

The iridescence also doesn't go away when the shutters are closed

NGL though Diversity conflict is the funniest

[sullen solar]

It never did

[gritty pecan]

the door windows never had iridescence if i remember correctly

[jovial peak]

Probably

[sullen solar]

They did

[clear prairie]

Anyways it repros if you spam the shutter

Alcatras get angy

[sullen solar]

Feature. Protection against spamming the switch /joke

I have no idea how to fix the iridescence tbh...

[jovial peak]

My feedback includes:

• Iridescence seems to make it a bit hard to see out the Floor and Ceiling windows?? unsure
  • Right window iridescence is too weak?? also unsure
• ShipColors update lol
  • Missing the left window/shutter and the floor shutter (I found out they are controlled by other stuff's options lol) :((
  • Extremely minor material error on the door
  • (Sort of unrelated, but will have to manually remove some of the ship features in ShipColors if you used one of it's config options before hand)
• Ceiling window iridescence curves at the ends despite being square shaped
  • Similar issue with the floor window
• Sizable gap in the wall, probably from ceiling windows being enabled
• I guess the discrepancy between the Left and Right Window shutters??

which iridescence thing specifically

[sullen solar]

Curving and not covering the entire window properly

[jovial peak]

Fair

Seems weird

[clear prairie]

OH yeah

the Door bug is back @sullen solar

LMFAO

[gritty pecan]

Test, can you send me blend or fbx with floor?

[clear prairie]

Endox is right

How did this happen?

XD

[jovial peak]

what huh

OH

[clear prairie]

Yeah the right door Material is broken

[jovial peak]

the door texture being rotated

[clear prairie]

Lmfao

Yep

[sullen solar]

I can't hear you, it's too dark in my room

[clear prairie]

How do you keep breaking the material on that door

How

[gritty pecan]

Buy windows

To get some light

[sullen solar]

The mod is totally not spawning the door window twice or anything

[clear prairie]

Lol

[jovial peak]

p

[clear prairie]

Yeah he then fixed it a few times now

[clear prairie]

Like he had it fixed for the first beta

so it broke after

it's also not like that in the live version

[final salmon]

(Sort of unrelated, but will have to manually remove some of the ship features in ShipColors if you used one of it's config options before hand)

So I was wondering @sullen solar do these methods help you at all or are you not working with GameObjects? I haven't really looked into the code base for this mod or other ship modifying mods tbh https://github.com/darmuh/ShipColors/blob/53bff52a38c8f00146bc198c7ca81fe7e9cc3e78/API/API.cs#L69

kinda peepin the github now and it does seem like you're looking for specific game objects before adjusting certain components of them

not sure if you'll need them for the windows if you're not replacing the whole object

[clear prairie]

Btw stable ShipWindows, you're right it doesn't hide when the shutters are closed it's just way more subtle and I prefer it tbh

I feel like the Iridescence is too strong in the beta

[sullen solar]

I don't think I really have use for those methods 🤔

[clear prairie]

Although just dots is kinda odd

lol

[final salmon]

yeah thats sort of the conclusion I've come to lmao. Glad you don't need them

[gritty pecan]

it's weaker in beta if testaccount didn't turn on one setting back

[clear prairie]

Interesting lol

[sullen solar]

No gaping holes detected
-# (After setting Mesh Compression from Medium to Low )

[jovial peak]

it was just the other side :b

[sullen solar]

Ooops

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[clear prairie]

And you fixed the door already nice

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/veri/ShipWindows_4K_Skybox/ I wonder if this too will become optimized btw when you replace the skybox with the new one btw Testy

that bundle is 24mb rn

LOL

[sullen solar]

This one will no longer work

Also... It's a 4k texture, what did you expect?

[sullen solar]

No gaping holes detected
-# After fixing face orientation

[jovial peak]

it's massive

[sullen solar]

@clear prairie, a bit more subtle (Though, still very visible)

[clear prairie]

Yeah that's better lol

[sullen solar]

It's not, but I don't think it's much of an issue

Totally don't want to just be lazy

[loud hemlock]

does anyone know what might be causing this 😭

[gritty pecan]

chameleon iirc

[loud hemlock]

oh ok tyty

[solar pagoda]

yeah its a setting in chameleon. you turn the setting off, its resolved... let me find the setting for you.

this one

[jovial peak]

Just now noticed but uh

the top of the ship has the wrong footstep sounds :b

[blissful dune]

YOU HAVE THE WRONG FOOTSTEP SOUNDS 😭

[jovial peak]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-cat-kitty-sleepy-tired-gif-9176539601255345484

[clear prairie]

Melll Excited to see you here I hope to see support for ShipWindows Beta :3

It's definitely a ton more optimized than the Stable release lol

[sullen solar]

Oops

[sullen solar]

Hope Mel and Fumo will tell me when they're done.

I think the beta is ready to release as stable

[clear prairie]

Fumo said he was waiting on your documentation

I asked him on Stream yesterday

[sullen solar]

Oh, okay. Will do that after a quick nap.

Had only 3.5 hours of sleep

[clear prairie]

I hope Mel updates soon too though I really wanna use the new build lol

[gritty pecan]

• I can't do anything when I'm not at home

[sullen solar]

What do you mean you can't add compatibility using your phone?

[gritty pecan]

I need to use blender,unity, vs and run game to do something

And my laptop only 8 gb ram

[sullen solar]

Well, supposedly, it's possible to run Blender on a phone.

Though, that wouldn't solve the rest

[jovial peak]

Still need to fix Shutter Switch not being able to be unlocked at start :b

[clear prairie]

That's a TestAccountCore update that needs to be done still

@sullen solar Fix it buddy fix it

[sullen solar]

[jovial peak]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807809192537882647/1059536884440780932/4x-2.gif

[sullen solar]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-on-fire-sitting-edited-on-fire-fire-gif-17645117

[clear prairie]

@blissful dune Btw if you can get an update out today to support the Beta I would adore it so I can showcase it on stream today at the very least I hope you can get an update out before my 600 follower stream on Saturday

[jovial peak]

Hmm

[jovial peak]

Do you know if anything can be done about this

Only seems to happen with the Ceiling Window being active

[sullen solar]

I'll have a look