SCOPOPHOBIA 1.1.3 (v55)

[keen willow]

You mean warping through the door? Not a fan.

Originally my mod had "set destination" and never checked path = the stuttering you described.

Now I do check path and its not better.

But my thought was.. stop checking path when setting it (as that doesn't seem to do the full path?).. but before setting the walk to destination, select the destination, and then check if the path is valid or not. As that "should" say "this path isn't valid" if its blocked.

Bare in mind, I'm having bigger issues than doors due to the breaker box being spawned inside a wall sometimes.. lol

[pliant harbor]

Sure is gonna be interesting to find solutions to all these problems xD

[keen willow]

But I didn't get a chance to try it yet.. because other issues

Oh BTW reason I'm not a fan of warping through the door is just I feel like it's cheating the system, if I can't walk through a door then either the enemy should be able to break the door.. or not be able to go through it either xD

[distant gust]

i feel like u kinda missed the point lol

[keen willow]

probably, was on my phone, let me re-read lol

oh i see, you tried to make a better navmeshagent and it still dont work, joy xD

this was what i thought as well (regaring partial/invalid paths), my problem was, because my paths are pre-calculated, the path ENDS at the door, so it thinks the path is completed, im hoping once i go back to not calculating the path, it stops ending at the door.

though in my case, if the path is blocked, i will be telling the entity to do something else instead of dealing with the blockage as the stuttering seems to represent there being "no way to complete the path at all".

[cunning nebula]

this mod works for v64 right?

[steep nebula]

Yes, but isn’t being worked on further as far as I know.

Zeekerss has taken a break from LC so it’ll work for quite a while before it inevitably breaks. Hopefully a remake will be made someday

[pliant harbor]

Well we plan to do it

[wheat crane]

is the mod server/host sided meaning only the host needs it?

[steep nebula]

Its server sided. Everyone needs to download it

[normal basin]

funniest shit i've ever seen

[dark ice]

bro was terrified for his life

[viral karma]

On the Olympus map he cannot leave the hall at the exit...

[hidden cave]

This is more of an @coral berry issue than a Scopophobia one since Olympus' hall section doesn't have doors in the traditional sense. I imagine Masked have the same issue

[coral berry]

I forward this issue to @next stag

[next stag]

There's literally nothing i could do about this lmao. just put an off mesh link on your doors or something idk

[silver shoal]

Need JLL bug fixes and Pinnacle update lol

[next stag]

What even needs to be fixed on JLL right now? The only things i was aware of were just some minor issues on lesser used components?

[silver shoal]

The soft lock issues with the Pilum and whatever is going on with Olumpus' doors lol

Otherwise I think JLL is fine besides whatever seems to be triggering it to not load properly for some people at times and cause Arelion to break, I suspected it's an issue if you don't exclude your cache in your antivirus atm

[next stag]

I've already been helping sickboy privately with those. He's yet to fix it on his end or at least try suggestions i gave but he's on vacation so i don't blame him lol

Correct me if I am wrong but the logs I was given pointed to an error in the zeekers part of the code which makes me thing something was set up incorrectly with the pilum. otherwise generic scraps, slaughterhouse scraps, and some others would also currently be broken

and I haven't heard of that being a thing?

[silver shoal]

You could check the MythicMoons thread people were believing it to be an issue with JLL and Gale but I imagine Antivirus issues would make more sense lol

[next stag]

if you want to continue this i suggest moving to my thread instead of here. I personally use gale and haven't really had an issue but i guess I'll look at whatever people are talking about

[coral berry]

The olympus doors not letting clients thru sometimes is not something I can fix but then again we dont have logs for that issue some people say its happening cuz morecompany (?) some had issues with it after reviving with a revive mod

[silver shoal]

It mostly happens from what I've seen

If someone late joins or someone has to leave and rejoin

[hidden cave]

My bad, I ate the netcode

[normal basin]

the hell is a pilum

[coral berry]

Its a throwable spear

[normal basin]

oo cool

[coral berry]

I thought you were in vc when I was making it lol anyway lets not flood this thread with unrelated stuff anymore 👌

[shell bloom]

Anyone else hearing the Jester wind up instead of crying, when looking at em?

[raven parrot]

it was a terrifying time indeed

[warped saddle]

this mod has been abandoned by dev, so does that mean i should no longer try seeking a fix for a random sound bug i have for it?

[wheat flare]

nope

Project SCP is making a new one tho

[new scp-096]

it probably

wont be added

anytime soon tho

[not sponsored]

[warped saddle]

look forward to it guys

[wheat flare]

oh btw if you're curious I believe our team [the PSCP team] DID try to reach out to the creator of this mod but they never answered unfortunately

[pliant harbor]

I can say that I did get into contact with them, we had a nice chat, and yea they have confirmed they will no longer be working on this mod, I mostly wrote to them to make sure they knew that there would be a new shy guy in the future

[wheat flare]

Aaah

i see

[pliant harbor]

But I have partnered up with a talented mod developer on making it, we intent to add the shy guy you know! but also with some spice to him that might make him fresh to play against

[warped saddle]

As long as the sound works as intended as the original Scopophobia did in earlier versions of LC and the mod, I’m happy to see what you guys come up with

[silver shoal]

I just hope it comes out sometime soonish, I really miss Shy Guy. I ended up remving this mod a while ago just due to the several problems it has

[pliant harbor]

I do intent for it to be asap but the modder is very busy atm

[silver shoal]

Ye that much I'm aware of lol

[dry aspen]

Anywhere we can keep an eye out for any announcements?

[pliant harbor]

If you look at our ProjectSCP page in here or join the channel that are a link to on that page #1247624947451297863

[shell bloom]

The grace period means if I look at him under 0,5 seconds he won't activate right? Turning this to zero would make him activate instantly when looked upon?

[steep nebula]

Yes

[proven bane]

Does it work with v70?

[lavish cairn]

I can test it real quick

@proven bane

[opaque acorn]

||Considering the sapsucker's able to force the ship doors open I think it'd be a crime for the upcoming projectscp version of shy guy to not make use of that||

||Should be a hell of a lot easier to add that functionality now||

[lavish cairn]

||IM SORRY WHAT-||

[quiet pond]

Shhhhhh :)

[proven bane]

thank you

[pliant harbor]

has been on the board almost since the start when we talked about making our own version don't you worry

[opaque acorn]

good to hear

[shell bloom]

Any way to increase the range of activation? Like looking on the other side of the map and activating it lol

[pine locust]

?
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/theunknowncod3r/Scopophobia/

[silver shoal]

I spoke to him on Github

he brought it back

[pliant harbor]

Oh thats nice, still find it weird that I can't contact him anymore

[silver shoal]

@lament lichen

[silver shoal]

@lament lichen I know you and @pliant harbor along with the rest of the Project SCP team had similar goals for Shy Guy in terms of what I saw you mention on the github regarding wanting new animations, sounds, etc perhaps you guys could work together on that?

[coral berry]

adding a picture to the ship is still on my to-do list lol thats been on there for about a year and I just now realize that thats also something that was planned but never done

[pliant harbor]

[silver shoal]

I'm not sure what you last spoke about before contact broke off, but to see a lot of those ideas get integrated into the main Scopophobia mod could be nice

[coral berry]

well tbf what I wanted to do is a lethalposters mod with some custom code if you look at a specific picture you enrage shyguy

[glossy kettle]

make it so you can interact with it and if you use it you get killed by the shy guy lol

[coral berry]

I had a few posters already but idek where they are rn, probably burried somewhere

[silver shoal]

You also might be able to make use of things like PathfindingLib if you want to help improve his pathfinding so he can go out of fire exits and stuff

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Zaggy1024/PathfindingLib/

[lament lichen]

I discussed this with the team a while back, and I know they plan to continue on their own version anyway. Never say never though, who knows what can happen.

[coral berry]

[lament lichen]

This is also part of the plan. The intentions are to have a couple of different versions that can spawn at any time on the map, and triggering them will spawn a shy guy at a short distance from the player before aggroing. If LethalPosters has a format they apply to their images (IE: Name, ID, etc), I could in theory add a system for people to add custom scrap that works the same as the other items I plan to add, so I'll look into it. As for opening the ship doors, Im speaking to some people for the custom animations for that, along with new animations for the Shy Guy idling, charging, and chasing players. It's just taking longer than I expected.

[lament lichen]

Its currently hardcoded to just use the main door, so i'll need to change that section of his AI before that.

[silver shoal]

Yeah, I can see a lot of fixes for him being able to be made though with PathfindingLib

[coral berry]

It doesnt iirc all posters are in one png and my idea wouldve been probably a very expensive approach too. Never started cuz of that too, but having it spawn a few pictures on maps could be a nice way to do so without including another dependency

[silver shoal]

Inb4 CodeRebirthLib becomes a dependency for Seichi

jk lol

[coral berry]

[silver shoal]

Oh yeah btw @lament lichen Since you asked with 1.1.5 I did run into cases of Shy Guy being invisible, I think it would happen whenever he didn't spawn on a navmesh area or ainode properly since it would only ever really occur if he spawned outside. Very rarely did it happen if he spawned inside so I ended up just limiting his spawns to inside everywhere after a while using this mod https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Zehs/ShyGuySettings/

I never really knew what the cause of it was, it seemed to be that if he was invisible he would actually be visible somewhere else on the map seperated from himself lol

I also know I caught the game logging some SoundChannel errors from him before, I think that's due to his audio maybe not looping properly when he would initially spawn then sit down

I might request the option to add a Volume Slider for him too if that's possible some people in my group felt like he was too loud at times

[dry aspen]

Is ShyGuySettings compatible with the Scopophobia uploaded by theunknowncod3r?

[silver shoal]

Yes you just need to uninstall the one by Jasper

[dry aspen]

Cool beans

[warped saddle]

This has been my issue for about 6 months now and I have done everything in my power to make him have sound I need to mess with Coder’s still cuz I’m getting no sound and no aggression from him

[lament lichen]

The cause for the SoundChannel error has been fixed, and will be merged in the latest version when I push it live, just waiting on a few changes to animations, and such.

Regarding no sound and no aggression, the no sound i've experienced in my latest code as well, and im aiming to have that fixed for the next release as well. I do think Lunx was right about the audio, as it was me changing sound stuff in the AssetBundle that fixed the soundChannel error, so I just need to do a bit more troubleshooting to fix this.

Next release should have shy guy ripping open the ship too, btw, this is why im waiting to push things. After that, im hoping to get onto the Spawnable scraps, so if yall have image ideas again, post them here, or in the fanart section, and maybe your art can make it in.

[lament lichen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otglBkFLqVI sneak preview of whats coming next. 🙂 (Skip 1m45s in for Anim)

[lament lichen]

v1.1.7 is pushed to thunderstore, Sound issues should be fixed, completely. break in Anim should be live as well, and everything should still work. Please report any issues to me either here, or in the github issues, I may have made a couple of mistakes somewhere, so call me out for it! xD.

[scenic saddle]

really awesome to see this implemented, i always thought this would be a very fitting addition to the mod

also its ver nice seeing the mod maintained again

[faint aurora]

https://imgur.com/BgdQZZ3

i like this gif

[lament lichen]

I also wanted to see it one day, and with v70 adding it for the birds, had to get it into here as well. The animation turned out great, too! 🙂

[scenic saddle]

the kiwi birds can do it??

[lament lichen]

mhm!

[dense wraith]

Actualy peak that this got updated and added

[glossy canyon]

great update 👍
tho it seems like its having a hard time finding the door out, i really need them to stand beside the door

[lament lichen]

which doors? I tested scenarios involving all vanilla instances, and he pathfinds out to the main door fine. I do plan to rewrite most of the code in future, just wanna get everything to a stable state before I do anything else.

[glossy canyon]

main entrances from vanilla and some modded(unreal interior in this case)
tried spawning them inside, they start chasing
but as soon as i get out they ran away to somewhere that is not main.
if theyre nowhere near touching the entrance they just ranaway somewhere and not get out

literally had to die once touching the entrance and retriggering the chase then it work
im not sure if its the dev mode making it do that or not

[lament lichen]

to be honest, shouldn't really interfere with his AI in any way, i'll take a look at it tomorrow when im done with work, and see if its a bug in Scopo for you. If it is, i'll push an update out. This is pretty much a rebuild of his AssetBundle, Animations, and such, so its very likely things are being iffy right now, or I missed some things.

[dry aspen]

Can confirm with having the same issue with modded interiors

was using the metro one from the unreal interiors when I noticed the issue

Actually having the issue on Experimentation in the vanilla facility as well

though I'm not seeing anything in the logs atm

[lament lichen]

Thanks @dry aspen @glossy canyon , fixed in v1.1.9

Didn't test any modded interiors, but id assume it will work fine

[glossy canyon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1309213219134505062/1388957660661157999/umamusumeprettyderby.gif

[dry aspen]

Seems to work on most modded interiors from what I've tested so far, the only one I've noticed an issue with is Tomb by Tolian

[silver shoal]

That interior has an issue with the entrances not being networked iirc

prob why

[dry aspen]

That makes sense

[balmy lodge]

How does this mod compare to the original by jaspercreations?

[lament lichen]

Its about the same at this point, with new features, bugfixes, and new animations, etc. there'll be more added in the future as well, and of course, ProjectSCP plan to release their own version, too.

i'd still say to use my version over the original upload, as it has fixes the original upload never received.

[lament lichen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKrgbCT3668 👀

[balmy lodge]

Does this mod use the same config file as the original, or does it not have one?

All I can find is the config file for jaspercreations' ver

[lament lichen]

Yes it does

[rocky verge]

It uses the same, best bet is using shyguysettings

[lament lichen]

v1.2.0 has been pushed to thunderstore!

New Stuff:

• Shy guy can now use Fire Exits! 😄
• Possibly fix escape mechanic on non networked exits (not sure, but seemed to work on Tomb)
• Include Shy Guy Settings by Zehs in the base mod, no need for his extra mod anymore!

Also several changes to the codebase to fix underlying bugs.

[wicked moss]

😄

[lament lichen]

v1.2.1 and v1.2.2 have both been pushed, v1.2.1 adds a new scrap item that can be found, previous scrappers have gone missing after finding this item, so be careful!
v1.2.2 is a fix for something happening at the company building by mistake, which in turn was added in v1.2.1.

[wicked moss]

Oh

spooky

[lament lichen]

not trying to give away everything at once 😂 I plan to change it in future, but im happy with it rn to push it.

[wicked moss]

I am a SCP nerd and shy guy is my favorite

[lavish cairn]

Waaaait so are you the one updating the mod now?

[lament lichen]

I've been updating the mod since v49 / v50, yeah. The source is also all on my github, including the assetbundle, for people to poke at and suggest changes.

[lavish cairn]

Oh

Wow I didn't know that

I just didn't see any mod roles or OP on ur profile

so I was confused

[dense wraith]

Mh @hushed gorge can't he get the Modder role as the maintainer now even tho this is not his own thread?

[hushed gorge]

?modder 1063281425178185809

[sweet yew]

Added role Modder to theunknowncoder

Yay! @lament lichen you've been assigned the modder role. Head to #role-picker to select which type of modding you're interested and active in.

[dense wraith]

peak

people always so scared to poke around on such matters

no need to be scared of Robyn, hes a nice guy and only bites bad people

[hushed gorge]

https://tenor.com/oMzX1H6aAmL.gif

[dense wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-x-family-anya-forger-headpats-anime-gif-25413278

[dry aspen]

Love the new items

though I wonder if there could be an option to rename them so Shy Guy isn't in the item names when scanned?

[lament lichen]

I can definitely do that, and set up a config for either option! I was thinking of having it spawn in and match ScanNode details with the in game paintings, then when picked up, it'll reveal itself to be the SCP portrait, and well, you know the rest 😂

[lament lichen]

Oh ty! Kayo was right, I didn't expect the role, so didn't ask for it 🙂

[wicked moss]

Oh its a portrait

like an image XD

[wicked moss]

https://tenor.com/view/scp096-gif-27605639

[lament lichen]

this is now pushed, v1.2.3 adds three new configs, by default, it should use Fancy Painting, or whatever you define in the Config for Default Painting Name, theres also a bool toggle to enable / disable this.

[lavish cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/xafer-catmeme-meme-cat-soldiarcat-gif-4196924155144969562

[wicked moss]

aw but that helmet is not gunna save you

[lavish cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/pomni-digital-circus-the-amazing-digital-circus-dance-dancing-gif-12321434623242918249

[dry aspen]

I noticed that the config no longer has the moons specific spawn settings, is this located somewhere else or should I re-add shy guy spawn weights into LLL?

[lament lichen]

oh god now you've got me questioning things, hold on

It should regen when you load a lobby.

Yeh mine regenerated fine, delete your config, and let it recreate it when you load into a game lobby. It may have reset with the new options.

[dry aspen]

Gotcha I"ll give it a shot

It seems to have generated correctly

[lament lichen]

awesome, glad to hear it! You should be able to backup the old configs if it changes in future, then restore the moon stuff after it regenerates

[wicked moss]

also the ||painting|| spawns shy guy but not angers him?

[lament lichen]

are you connecting to someone else by chance? I changed a couple of things in the updated version, and i've been wondering about that, lol

it's supposed to aggro right onto you, as I add you to the targets list after it spawns, so not sure whats happening there

[wicked moss]

Im alone in my world

I picked up the painting it may have been the wrong one

[lament lichen]

Did you get a tip pop up when you picked it up? Lol

[wicked moss]

yes

some sound comes from the painting

and he did spawn

[lament lichen]

Yep in that case, you survived, but he shouldn’t have spawned. I’ll have to look at that

[wicked moss]

But he only triggered after i looked at him

[lament lichen]

It’s meant to be random chance now, not 100% certain death, to make the scrap at least retrievable.

But if he spawns, that should be a death so I’ll look at it later for you

[wicked moss]

The version of the painting was him on the side covering his face so i think it was the good version

[lament lichen]

Oh that’s random too, the picture is just variation, and I’ll be adding others in future as well. There’s no guaranteed good picture, just FYI.

Im looking at adding some sort of item that neutralises him though, just not yet sure on the form it’ll take.

[wicked moss]

a nice idea is maybe scramble gear

[dense wraith]

Zap gun his ass while he's is being triggered

While he's standing and screaming but not running yet

[keen willow]

hi, question regarding the painting.

does the shyguy aggro you if you put it into a belt bag instead of pick it up normally? (I configure so things like "demonic painting" from SDM, which have events attached when picked up.. do not go in belt bags.. because putting them in belt bags prevents the event from firing...)

[lament lichen]

It should, but I haven’t tested it, if you dm me the mod in question I’ll test with a local release candidate I’m testing rn, and let you know.

[dense wraith]

belt bag is a vanilla item

[lament lichen]

Doesn't fire the event, same as SDM, which actually makes sense since the belt bag overrides the playerHeldBy variable, but I can look into it, Im pretty sure I can just read the objects in the belt bag and work from there.

[opal rapids]

Any chance we could get compat with OpenBodyCams, so viewing Shy Guy through one causes him to get aggro'd?

[lament lichen]

I can look into it, thats actually something i've wanted as well for a while.

[opal rapids]

Awesome!!

[lament lichen]

Pushed a fix for this, let me know if it keeps happening.

Will look into getting support added for OpenBodycams at some point soon, just not sure when, i'll need to take a look at how they implement things, and work from there. Might take a little bit, as im also working on some other stuff which may appear soon. 🙂

[dense wraith]

i love that shyguy gets updated even with new content after such a long time of nothing

i genuinly think that shyguy is just perfect the way he works and looks for lethal company

many monster mods are either boring or realy strong, i realy appreciate the fact that shyguy just feels very balanced

[opal rapids]

after testing, i am also having this issue
He spawns in, starts screaming, but doesnt attack. He then swaps to the crying audio, whilst visibly still remaining "mad". Then, when you look at him, he then gets mad.

The other thing is that "ShyGuyPainting" shows up as the name of the item in the scan menu with mods like TerminalFormatter and such
Might be a good idea to try and diguise the item in there too

[lament lichen]

Okay yep, I see it, it was triggering for me initially, now, not so much. I'll push 1.2.5 to fix it shortly, once i've tested a reliable fix / method.

[opal rapids]

Idk if its interior specific as well, but when i tested, he struggled to chase you outside if you left during his trigger time. i turned it down to 15s instead of 66s or whatever the default is, but yeah he wasnt able to leave consistently

[lament lichen]

hmm, I can look at that again too, but the way he's set to escape now is by checking the navmeshpath before even traversing it to see if he can complete the path to the exit, instead of just assuming he can, so that shouldn't happen

[opal rapids]

hmm, weird

[wicked moss]

Some interiors are just badly made in terms of nav mesh

[dense wraith]

so how exactly does shy guy work now, does he kill only the players that looked at him or does he just kill anyone and everyone?

i used to set the max target to 1 just to be save

[wicked moss]

He only kills who looks at him

[dense wraith]

but now since the entire config seems to be new those settings also reset so i started wondering again

ive seen him kill like everyone in the past so i realy wasnt sure

but this has been long ago

ill see how it goes with default settings then

does looking at him whiles hes already chasing a player also make him anger on you?

[lament lichen]

please stick to v1.2.3 right now, v1.2.4 released earlier has a bug that I need to fix, or just disable Painting spawning until then.

[elder nacelle]

is the painting causing this thing over here?

[wicked moss]

problem with painting?

[lament lichen]

Thats not the error I was sent, but I do use a coroutine, so ask them if they're using v1.2.4 and to try v1.2.3 if so

[elder nacelle]

that error actually popped up in my lobby, had to remove all scrap mods to get rid of it, including setting the painting to 0 weight

not sure if it was 1.2.4 though

[lament lichen]

yeah so im gonna recommend again for people to use v1.2.3 right now, or just disable the painting entirely until next release, just in case. I personally can't recreate that issue, but I do have an idea whats causing it, as Lunxara explained on her side what happened pretty well, along with logs.

I'm probably gonna be able to push a release out sometime tomorrow evening when i've fully tested it with my group.

[lament lichen]

Change of plan, since its a breaking bug, 1.2.5 should fix it.

[lament lichen]

I think this should all be fixed now, let me know if any other issues pop up please 🙂

[wicked moss]

https://tenor.com/view/murder-drones-cyn-gif-15037292224759176448

[scenic saddle]

had another crash with a client but i had my mod updated to 1.2.5 and they didn't so im not sure if its a false positive or not

it's weird the feature was working when it first came out

[lament lichen]

yeah I made some changes between the first and second release to make it random chance, not a certain death scenario, but the way I initially did the implementation was wrong. If your friend updates to 1.2.5, the crash should stop.

[scenic saddle]

okay good

[dry aspen]

So far I haven't noticed any issues

[lament lichen]

Noticed a couple of things I didn't intend to happen, so there'll be a fix coming out sometime tomorrow to cover the instances of shy guy still spawning in certain company buildings, specifically Oxyde, and Galentry which I didn't think of when putting it together, as well as shy guy spawning in the ship between rounds at times. There'll also be a config option for people to ||tweak the chance of shy guy spawning on interacting with the lootable NFT (lol), so for those evil players who want 100%, you got it||.

[rocky verge]

hey question, is shy guy opening ship doors still in wip? i've seen you update the mod multiple times but haven't really been paying much attention to lc lately

[lament lichen]

been done since v1.1.7 @rocky verge

[rocky verge]

OMG CRAZY, you are awesome! does it have a config for enabling and disabling it?

[lament lichen]

uhh, no config, nobody ever asked for it, so I just made it a part of his regular AI check, but I can definitely add one.

[rocky verge]

oh im just asking haha, it was mostly out of curiosity since i've been seeing you add tons of configs so i thought that it also had a config haha, i honestly prefer him opening the ship doors, but a config is always appreciated!

and tysm for maintaining and adding even more features to this amazing mod!

[dry aspen]

I'm still having him spawn in at the Company Building

[warped saddle]

I know this is slightly older, but i would like to know if anyone has any suggestions. when Jasper was owned the mod i was having problems with hearing his crying sound, pretty much at all. I can hear him for 1-5 seconds when he spawns, but when he sits, game over, i cannot hear him anymore. Screaming, Rage, and chase i can all hear, just not the crying. my friend in the same game with the exact same modpack can hear him crying. i just want to be able to hear my boi

[lament lichen]

try v1.2.6 when it goes live on thunderstore, this will fix the issue of him spawning in space, at the company, and on Oxyde, and Galetry.

[lament lichen]

This is an old but persistent issue, and I havent really looked at his sit behaviour yet to work it out. His audio does play, but its either severely delayed, or not playing for all players for some reason at first. If you hang around enough, you will eventually hear him sobbing and crying into his arms, but its not consistent when he sits down. Not gonna lie, as the audio source does actually work, al be it delayed, it hasn't been a major priority for me, with other stuff in the mix, but I'll take a look at addressing it properly for the next update I push.

[warped saddle]

you would be such a saviour for that. Good to know it’s old and persistent and not just me. I’ve almost thrown my PC out the window because of it. Obviously focus on what you have planned next but thank you for some clarity on the issue

[proven bane]

Im using v69 with my friends until all mods get stable in v70; do you think this update would work on v69?

[lament lichen]

Don’t think so, but you can try, the v60 version worked for v70

[steep nebula]

Which mods are you using that aren’t stable in v70?

The majority of mods support the update now

[rocky verge]

only thing is like the radar

but there are mods that try to fix it

and also diversity, but that one was bugged before v70

[steep nebula]

Ah I see.

[arctic trench]

Sorry, meow, the Lethal Company Modding community has restricted the ability to share links to that specific platform. Please use modmail if you have any questions or this is an important link, mew!

[dense wraith]

[arctic trench]

Meow meow!

[silver shoal]

Diversity works with V70 🤷‍♀️

But it needs an update

[proven bane]

Not sure which ones broke it for me, I tried updating my mods and we had weird things happening in game and game breaking bugs. I will remake the mod list sometime soon

[proven bane]

Okay, maybe its backwards compatible. I will try it today and confirm it

[rocky verge]

has to be a very specific one since almost every mod has been updated to v70

[rocky verge]

ye that's what i mean hehe, i've heard there are even more bugs with v70 but that it can still work

i mean having to disable the personal space basically means is not working

[opal rapids]

From my tests, with the config chance set to 100%, this seems to only apply to the host
Everytime i pickup the painting (as host), whether initially or after someone else has touched it, it ALWAYS spawns him. Yet when other players touch it, he doesn't spawn.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1226670728019972218/1399076739014983782/ShyGuyPainting.mp4?ex=688a5240&is=688900c0&hm=cbd46481f3481dd51a1e8af264cbb3a6188eef9d927d23b33686ee7c23572b06&

(We are using identical profiles + configs ofc)

Like, even if say....it DID spawn when the other guy picked it up inside, we set him to only "charge up" for 15s seconds or so, not the full 66s
So he would have surely came out and killed him before he even got to the ship most likely
Which is why i am puzzled why it spawned at the ship when i picked it up then

If he does consistently spawn for each player once first picked up, then the issue is what i said previously, which was that when you leave the interior when he is "winding up", it cancels out the screaming and he goes back to being passive

[lament lichen]

Got it, I see what I missed, lol. I have a bunch of changes to stress test with my group, so once I get around to that is probably when i'll push the update for it.

[dry aspen]

stuck in place

ran up to there and then just stopped

on ||Dreck|| from Wesley's Moons

[pliant harbor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1054684943336349716/1307421730997928027/caption.gif

[lament lichen]

Im aware of issues related to Wesleys moons, specifically his newer ones. Its on the list of things to look into at some point, when I get a chance. to be more specific, can you try him on various other moons, and see if its just an issue with Wesleys moons, or a generic issue overrall please? I know of at least two of his moons currently that cause pathfinding to break in some way, as well as one of his interiors causing it to break at some point, so if I can get a list of known map issues, I can address them all at once, rather than nitpicking through them.

[dry aspen]

[21:47:59.4079193] [Info : Unity Log] Switching ownership of ShyGuyDef #0 to player #0 (Sambammers)
[21:47:59.4084419] [Info : Unity Log] unable to set owner of ShyGuyDef #0 to player #0; reason B; 0

Showed up on Icebound, which I believe is one of Skelaah's moons with the Toy Store interior

The Shy Guy with the wesley interiors seems to struggle with finding an exit

[lament lichen]

that ones normal iirc, been popping up since before I took over the mod, and isn't an issue.

Wesleys interiors I can check out, but i was aware of rubber rooms being an issue as well at one point with his escape stuff iirc, but there was definitely at least one moon I saw firsthand where he had issues.

[dry aspen]

Yeah so far I can confirm Motra is also having issues

[lament lichen]

How do, other than the trees

So*

[pliant harbor]

Might be not able to get to players that are at the far away exit maybe ?

[wicked moss]

the pikmin from lethalmin if on infernis the pikmin cannot pathfind out of the interior so maybe thats also the issue here? as it seems something with some of weslys moons prevents this

[amber bramble]

Does anyone know if there's a config to edit so the Shy Guy can only spawn on specific moons I can't find one

I have a few snowy moons and I only want him to spawn on those

[rocky verge]

Yes there is

[amber bramble]

I couldn't find it sorry i only found the ones to configure his weight and make him spawn on "dangerous moons" or something like that

[rocky verge]

What version of scopophobia do you have??

[amber bramble]

I saw there were two versions but I didn't know which one to get so i got the one with more downloads

Is it on the other version

[rocky verge]

Install unknowncoder's version

Its the latest version

[amber bramble]

Ok thanks a lot

[rocky verge]

The one with more downloads is older, buggier, with less content, and abandoned

[amber bramble]

I see

[rocky verge]

And it also doesnt have per moon weights hehe

[amber bramble]

Ok thx for the help

[rocky verge]

There is a mod (shy guy settings) that let you configure him, but the newer version has it by default, no other mods needed hehe

[rocky verge]

Np!!

[dry aspen]

He got stuck on something invisible by the ship similar to ||Dreck||

[rocky verge]

stuckophobia!!!!!

[dry aspen]

He seems to be fine on DemonMae's moons so far

[lament lichen]

This is a pre-release version, mostly for testing. If people wanna try it, it should fix all issues currently listed. I've noticed some moons still have issues, so i'll be looking to address that before release, hence dropping this here.

To install, just navigate to your plugins folder, look for scopophobia, and drop the dll over the one already there.
I'll push this to release once it's been tested properly.
If not allowed, just delete and message me.

[opal rapids]

https://www.twitch.tv/zetaarcade/clip/SavoryAverageKoupreySquadGoals-GeqGCjDII0bDw_Lt

yeah he spawned, presumably from a lootbug or baboon hawk picking it up
Was very funny though

@lament lichen

[dense wraith]

if a yippee picking up his item triggers him to spawn then thats actualy evil

[rocky verge]

It should trigger him but go and kill the yippee

Its not our fault!!

[dense wraith]

that would be funny as hell lol

if you dont see it happen you just stumble upon a crying shyguy with a dead yippee besides him

[lament lichen]

Initial intention was for shy guy to chase down enemies, implementing it hadn't been done yet, im assuming it defaulted to an id of 0 since it wasn't a valid player, but wasn't something I expected honestly, lmao.

[wicked moss]

If something like that were to be made a blacklist of enemys should be a thing to prevent shyguy from attacking unkillable enemys or ones that are impossible to reach

[lament lichen]

yeah thats the general idea, set it up as a config setting, same as the config settings, then people can add / remove custom enemies. Its not really something ive looked into much yet, but I always forget hoarding bugs and such can pick up scrap 😂

[thin path]

And Baboon Hawks too lol

[lament lichen]

tbh they usually get bonked with a shovel before they get any loot, so I never see that 🤣

[opal rapids]

In mine, we let them and lootbugs go in/out of the facility
With BB hawks its like having a rival raiding party trying to also steal stuff and getting shot up by turrets etc.

pretty funny

[rocky verge]

Update!!!

[lament lichen]

You saw it before I could post 😂 v1.2.7 is live, it should fix most of his navigation issues. I cannot help if he happens to traverse out of a fire exit that leads to terrain he cannot navigate, however.
Noted changes:
Fix escape mechanic revert, as well as escaping on Wesley Interiors (Toy Store, Rubber Rooms, etc), and LC_Office.
Fix navigation on Wesley moons that would cause him to occasionally get stuck (This is my bad, lmao.)
Fix painting interactions triggering only for host, as well as how many times the painting will trigger (You can still force a spawn by clicking).

Any bugs, please let me know as always. I expect them to pop up at this point. XD

[rocky verge]

Haha sorry!!! And ty for this update, I love this mod and I'm so happy you've kept updating it not only for it to work but adding new and amazing content!!

[lament lichen]

no need to apologise! Im glad people are still enjoying it, and the new features! Thanks for over 50k downloads on the new version, yall! And for all the downloads on the original upload, too! ❤️

[dry aspen]

huzzah!

[still coral]

@lament lichen

[lament lichen]

Im assuming he ran away while it was moving to get into the elevator, but thats hilarious

[still coral]

Ye not sure what they try pathing towards actually, but Jester likes goin down there too 💀

[lament lichen]

its probably down to it heading to the elevatorBottomPoint, or elevatorTopPoint position, either that or the actual button itself. Masked are probably going down there too

[still coral]

I don't use mineshaft elevator

[opal rapids]

Did the lootbugs touching paintings also get fixed?

[lament lichen]

yes, forgot to add that to changelog, my bad

[rocky verge]

fixed as in, it wont attack players? or as in it will kill the lootbug

[lament lichen]

As in right now nothing will happen, I need to look into him targeting enemies more.

[rocky verge]

is not really necessary

but it would be funny seeing the lootbug picking it up and 096 going mad haha

[warped saddle]

@lament lichen I dont believe I authorized a Shy Guy meet and greet on my ship

[lament lichen]

LMAO, what is going on there

[warped saddle]

i dont know! they come in from all over the map and just chill on that spot of my ship. they even come out from in the facilities

[lament lichen]

omfg, I see whats causing that, expect a push to fix it. I don't know how I missed it in testing, everything was working fine on my side 🤣

kinda funny tho

[rocky verge]

now look at them hehe

[lament lichen]

Fixed in v1.2.8

[warped saddle]

Well I’m glad I found the weird little bug for you

[quiet pond]

That's pretty funny XD

[lament lichen]

Believe it or not, this was caused by one character I probably deleted by mistake when alt tabbing back in XD. Who knew one wrong bool check would look so funny 😂

[warped saddle]

gotta love when it is just the simplest things

[opal rapids]

Seems that a client picking up the painting causes the spawned shy guy to target the host?

[silver shoal]

It seems that he just doesn't target the person that activates it

https://www.twitch.tv/lunxara/clip/RelatedSincereGrasshopperPanicBasket-rB6pVkyrp6Dxxf_k See this clip lol

A client picked it up and he went after a diff client

[opal rapids]

Ah yeah

[lament lichen]

Im telling ya, thats just the pacoito aimbot at work! Just kidding, I think this is down to a change I made to how the target player is set, so i'm looking at it now. Since I mostly test locally, not really something I saw.

[silver shoal]

Lmao Whovian activating the painting for Shy Guy to murder pacoito while pacoito was just chilling was funny as fuck, I thought he changed target cus she went to a place he couldn't reach as an intended thing to prevent him from breaking 😂

[lament lichen]

its not actually something that should happen, at all. Usually he'll just stand there looking all derpy at the edge of the map screaming 😂 But yeah, not intended. Not even sure why he switched target mid run, that shouldn't happen either.

[pine locust]

https://youtu.be/-nIoCq_LmpE?t=119
Idk when it was made the video, but it seems shy guy was stuck near ship on Bozoros

[lament lichen]

I'll see about finding out, but from what I know this should be fixed now anyway, at least nobody else reported it, so idk.

I've actually just lost all local changes as my SSD just died, and i've had to reinstall my PC, so bear with me for a couple of days while I set everything back up, as i've lost not only Scopo stuff, but other projects i've been working on with others.

[pine locust]

oof, dw

[lament lichen]

If you can find out for me in the meantime, I'm gonna leave a comment asking about the version, etc and hope they get back to me.

[still coral]

They have modpack code in the description

0198a949-34ed-1838-f8ca-fd5c929f74b6

[lament lichen]

in that case, I don't even see scopo in there 😂

[still coral]

It is misinformation 💀

[rocky verge]

https://medal.tv/es/games/lethal-company/clips/l1bwL1PbBAH9B4b2d?invite=cr-MSxxSVEsNDI1OTMzMzU0&v=17
i got so scared my mind blocked

shy guy opening the door is the best addition ever i love it

[rocky verge]

Also, i've been getting a few issues with this boy

I have it so it only spawn once

But i've been getting multiple in the same day

At first i thought it was a bug with outside and inside spawns, but then i got a day with 2 inside ahy guys

So idk whats happening there

[sturdy moss]

LMAO

[lament lichen]

Had a few people mention this to me, but with them it was outside, not inside. I'll have to look at it again, as its been a while.

Also, that clip is great lmao

[rocky verge]

I also got 1 putside and another inside in the same day

There can be multiple

So probably an issue with the configs i would guess

[pliant harbor]

The whole open door mechanic is one of the best introduced to shy guy tbh

[sturdy moss]

The constant pausing 😭

[lament lichen]

Hey everyone!

Some IRL stuff had came up that I needed to deal with, and now the new update for lethal, so I’ll probably be about a week on updating this when I get time. Scopo will be coming to v73! Apologies for the lack of bug fixes and updates.

[still coral]

But have you considered f l a t

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1147913501914955786/1423956259371225139/Moments-clip-from-Oct-03-2025.mp4?ex=68e3839c&is=68e2321c&hm=6ee883c1fec5a6b3a0d37fa6670f743dc8c93839bbe05f1bd87eb5369c1579a6&

[lament lichen]

HAHAHAHHA WHAT? Why is he flat tho 🤣

What have I been missing

[sturdy moss]

guardsman told him to stfu

[silver shoal]

I sent you these clips in dm and said that a Guardsman crushed him ahaha

[lament lichen]

Welp, I missed that in my half awake state xD

[terse plinth]

does anyone know if its a bug that shyguy will chase and kill only one person who has seen his face before sitting back down again? I've been testing it on a lan w/ multiple instances and shyguy only ever kills 1 then sits down, needing to be triggered again.

is this intended behavior, or like a config thing?

[rocky verge]

Thats how it works

It only attacks the first person to see him

[terse plinth]

should he attack all players that saw him?

looking at the code, it looks like that should be the intended behavior

[rocky verge]

Hmmmm maybe idk

Since the first time it has only attacked 1 player even if multiple people saw him

[terse plinth]

ill take a look and see If I can find the potential problem

[terse plinth]

@lament lichen I cant seem to nail down the problem but it might be ShyGuyAI the client is causing Shyguy to end hunting too early. Clearly the X is Hunted! shows that the target list is both players right?

[lament lichen]

Yep thats showing the targets correctly, it should list each playerClientID which is currently being hunted, and proceed to kill one by one, but this isn't the first report of this happening lately, iirc someone else also had an issue where he wouldn't chase the next player until something else happened, and its on the list of things to fix in v73. I've sent you a DM as well, see if we can isolate things down a bit more.

According to that, it killed player 0 (The Host), then things went borky)

[terse plinth]

SitDown() resets the shyguys state right? I also sent you a DM

[lament lichen]

v73 goes well, lmao

[lament lichen]

Just pushed a quick update for v73, as always, please let me know of any issues. I don't expect every bug to be fixed with this version, but at least some of the reported ones should be. I'll be pushing another update in a few days when I get around to finishing some of the newer stuff.

[jade elk]

we are at atamance, and he never ran out side

[lament lichen]

Can you send me your modlist please? Also include the version you used, and which game version

[warm creek]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hide-sofa-gif-5892045

I'm in your sofas

[lament lichen]

if you find any monies, its yours 😂

[warm creek]

You wouldn't believe all the stuff I found already

[lament lichen]

.....Did you find my common sense? I seem to have lost it

[warm creek]

Nope, I'm afraid that one is lost forever

[dense wraith]

i ate it

it was down there too

[warm creek]

You better get back into the walls. The sofas are mine

[dense wraith]

gotta be faster then

i stole all your loot

[warm creek]

[arctic trench]

Meow meow!

[lament lichen]

worse than the heckin loot bugs stealing my paintings before I find em 😂

Also, side note for people, I am still accepting fan art submissions for alternate paintings, It can be from google, if you think it'll fit, I just ask you share an original link so I can give credit, etc.

[lament lichen]

v1.3.0 is up, @jade elk @silver shoal this version will fix your issues.

[sturdy moss]

does that mean the issue of shy guy forgetting about the target mid-screaming is fixed?

[lament lichen]

should be, yeah. I havent been able to recreate it with friends, so no more surprise shy guys for you 😂

ngl that was funny tho

[sturdy moss]

I see
I was playing with luni yesterday and I was curious if shy guy forgot about me, or he was stuck because of demonmae's new interior
turns out it was the first one lol

[lament lichen]

Yeah that was on me with trying to push the update out quick, I didnt fully review my changes before pushing live, and missed out the ownership on the rpcs, lmao. I tested 1.3.0 with DemonMae's interiors, Wesleys Interiors, and Wesleys moons as well as the vanilla ones, he still has some pathfinding issues in places on Wesley moons, but thats the navmesh not his AI. everything else worked

[sturdy moss]

yeah
that time when standing on that tree on Motra, made you unreachable for him

[lament lichen]

working with my animator on something to fix that height issue, dw!

[sturdy moss]

-# (still does kek)

[lament lichen]

(not for long) 😂

[jade elk]

Bet

[jade elk]

Bro about to pull out a 50.cal

[scenic saddle]

i have issues with 049 not making its idle sound

can barely tell hes there until i see him

[pine locust]

Wrong thread bud

[scenic saddle]

oh i mean 096

sorry LOLL!!!!!!

[jade elk]

Now thinking about it, even last version few weeks ago i didnt hear any of his idle crying sounds

[keen willow]

i picked up a painting and heard crying, but havent actually seen/heard the enemy itself

[lament lichen]

You'd be correct, I actually looked at the assetbundle in unity earlier, and questioned myself on why that wasn't set anymore. Although it should still be playing an audiofile, but it would be the wrong one. Im assuming I accidentally removed it, so it'll be fixed shortly.

Virus, if you heard crying instead of the FearSFX you'd hear when looking at him, then he didn't spawn. The cry is set to play if he doesn't spawn, whereas if you hit the random chance range for spawning, you'll hear the fear sound. It should only trigger once per round per player / painting, so you can pick up a second after surviving the first time, and you should be able to trigger the new one.

[keen willow]

oh i know it didnt spawn, i was just saying the painting made the sound xD

I was just saying i didnt hear the crying from the enemy itself, but then the enemy didnt spawn in my last session at all, so that could be why i didnt hear it.

by the way, incase i didnt mention, and incase its not known (forgot if i mentioned it here).. picking up the painting with a belt bag doesnt trigger the effects (i think). its the same with other similar items (SDM Painting doesnt trigger the "monster spawn fight", slenderman pages dont trigger slenderman).. i blacklist all those items normally, but just reaching out in the hope that isnt required in the future ;D

[jade elk]

Wait the panting can have a interaction with shy guy now

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-5834484041415217257

[dense wraith]

Shy guy has his own painting

[rocky verge]

Painting has his own shy guy

Spooky painting, beware when being around it

You might not want to do something bad

[high shadow]

Idk if im late, but I saw Scopophobia was deprecated, any chance its coming back?

[rocky verge]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/theunknowncod3r/Scopophobia/

[high shadow]

ty sir

[sturdy moss]

it was never gone 😔

[rocky verge]

gone but not gone

[rapid fulcrum]

Hello, someone know how to fix this issue with Scopophobia
[Error :Scopophobia] Failed to set enemy probability curve. Values are empty. (EnemyName: Shy guy)
The curves are not empty they are 1.0,1.0,1.0 (default value)
Im using Scopophobia v1.3.0
Profile Code: TZWLOX

[lament lichen]

It’s not a bug. The level values are still being set, the logging is just messed up from when I initially switched to dawnlib.

Edit: replied to wrong message lmao, whoops

[rapid fulcrum]

Oh it's just a log issue?

[lament lichen]

Yeah just a log issue, it’s fixed for the next release, just working out some extra stuff I found was broken

[hardy stone]

I'm getting this error

[Error  : Unity Log] ArgumentException: Cannot use any of the following characters in section and key names: = \n \t \ " ' [ ]
Parameter name: section
Stack trace:
BepInEx.Configuration.ConfigDefinition.CheckInvalidConfigChars (System.String val, System.String name) (at <fe49c90fe8e24102b42489c11910c71c>:IL_004B)
BepInEx.Configuration.ConfigDefinition..ctor (System.String section, System.String key) (at <fe49c90fe8e24102b42489c11910c71c>:IL_0006)
BepInEx.Configuration.ConfigFile.Bind[T] (System.String section, System.String key, T defaultValue, System.String description) (at <fe49c90fe8e24102b42489c11910c71c>:IL_0000)
Scopophobia.Config.Bind[T] (System.String section, System.String key, T defaultValue, System.Boolean requiresRestart, System.String description, BepInEx.Configuration.AcceptableValueBase acceptableValues, System.Action`1[T] settingChanged, BepInEx.Configuration.ConfigFile configFile) (at ./Config.cs:203)
Scopophobia.Data.EnemyConfigData.BindConfigs (System.String planetName) (at ./Data/EnemyConfigData.cs:34)
Scopophobia.Data.EnemyData.BindConfigs () (at ./Data/EnemyData.cs:21)
Scopophobia.EnemyDataManager.AddEnemyData (SelectableLevel level) (at ./EnemyDataManager.cs:108)
Scopophobia.EnemyDataManager.InitializeEnemyDataList () (at ./EnemyDataManager.cs:44)
Scopophobia.EnemyDataManager.Initialize () (at ./EnemyDataManager.cs:19)
StartOfRoundPatch.StartPatch () (at ./Patches/StartOfRoundPatch.cs:11)

[lament lichen]

what exactly were you trying to do?

[hardy stone]

Nothing. Just opened the game

On v73

[coral berry]

You are not supposed to do that

[lament lichen]

Not something ive had, but seems to be fixed in local at least, so I'll get this pushed asap

[lament lichen]

v1.3.1 is Live. It fixes the bug with the Configs, Fixes his Idle / Sitting sounds, Fixes the Mineshaft Elevator Code for both Vanilla and Wesleys Interior, Fixes the Loot Bugs and Baboon hawks triggering the painting, also for @keen willow , there is now a trigger for the painting for the belt bag, this will be changed in v1.3.2, but wanted to push it early with all the other fixes. Currently, the config option for this is a Placebo, and isn't set up, but this won't affect you if you don't use BagConfig by MattyMatty.

Sorry for how long it took, I wanted to thoroughly test everything while I was fixing things, which led to finding the mineshaft Elevator bug. This release should be pretty bug free now 🙂

[rocky verge]

Amazing!!!!

When you say config do you mean the issue with multiple shy guys spawning even when its set to 1?

[silver shoal]

That doesn’t happen

[lament lichen]

I didn't know that was still a thing, thought it was fixed a while back, mustve missed someone saying it was still a thing

[silver shoal]

It has been fixed the only time you can spawn multiple is with the painting lol

I also think if you tell it to allow him to both spawn inside and outside it can spawn one in and one out but by default he always spawns inside, if you want him outside on a moon you have the option to toggle off him being able to spawn inside lol this is just cus indoor and outdoor enemies are treated seperately by the game

So when you have both toggles set to true on a moon he gets added to the spawn pool for both indoor and outdoor enemies

[lament lichen]

try the painting again btw, lunx, should be fixed now 😄 (except for new players, of course...)

[rancid otter]

so what exactly happens to shyguy if using EntranceTeleportOptimisations?

[lament lichen]

It broke his escape behaviour when I was testing someone’s pack.

I tested with EntranceOptimizations enabled, and shy guy would fail to find any exit points in the map, regardless of level, and when disabled, he found a teleport as expected, so I assume it changes the teleports somehow. I haven’t tested it since I rewrote and fixed a bunch, so it may be working now, not sure.

[silver shoal]

It's prolly cus you didn't account for this

[lament lichen]

Now I’ve been reminded I’ll probably add some additional logging and debug it properly, tbh. I don’t even remember seeing that config, but makes sense. I’d assume starlancer escape is also broken in the same manner, since I adapted his code for grabbing teleports.

[pine locust]

I can confirm starlancer works on fire exits with that mod :]

I've seen evidence on first hand

[lament lichen]

hmm, so it may have just been my code, it might even work now!

Ive noted it, I'll test it and debug it properly anyway for next time I work on the mod

[lavish cairn]

Question

Does StarlancerEnemyEscape break default modded monster escape methods?

Im not saying thats happened

im just curious

[lament lichen]

Not entirely sure, I assumed it was down to how I did the teleport code initially

[silver shoal]

Btw you may wanna account for people Kill Binding, someone kill binded and he broke lol

cus he was running after them when they kill binded, idk why it borked him

[lament lichen]

Can confirm, EntranceTeleportOptimisations seems fixed, will update that in next changelog

Works fine in current live version btw

[lavish cairn]

I feel like Starlancer would have accounted for modded monsters that come out after you

[lament lichen]

yeah it seems it was just a me being dumb thing

[keen willow]

is it intended that every time you pick up a painting, it spawns a new shyguy? (ie, more than one?). we had 2 shyguys spawn one from first pick up, second from dropping and picking it up instantly xD (35% chance)

[opal rapids]

@lament lichen ditto of what virus said above me
Also, there is a minor bug with multiple shy guys (often caused by the the paintings spawning more), that when 2 aggro onto 1 player and both run after them, whichever one doesn't get the kill just continues screaming etc.
I think they just need a check for if their target is dead

One thing i would like to see though with the Shy Guy Paintings is an option for the paintings to only spawn a Shy Guy if there isn't already one on the map
And if there IS one, then make him aggro onto the player instead

[lament lichen]

Sorry for silence on my side, I am still around, just been pretty hectic IRL here.

Regarding what Virus noted, That is only intended if say another player were to pick up the painting after someone else already spawned a shy guy, but im probably just gonna change this to have it only spawn one the first time, and also remove the interaction trigger.

as for what Zeta mentioned / suggested, that targetting bug is the same thing that will happen if a player killbinds, and its something I still need to look at, tbfh. It does have checks on if the player is dead, and should remove the target and reset him, but for some reason, it just says absolutely bloody not, lmao.

I can look at adding that as an option for you, this was initially how I had it in my head anyway at one point I think, I just change my mind so often I probably decided it was more fun this way xD. I've been working on creating some new models and animations for a pretty epic new feature im working on, and im hoping to push it in one of the next releases, if I can. I'll see about getting a version pushed quickly with fixes for the noted issues, and that feature for you.

[opal rapids]

No worries, no rush
I would say it's pretty minor QoL fixes to it

[lament lichen]

all fixes should be live sometime today when i get around to uploading it. new features will take a bit longer for me to work out and make sure all the correct checks and states are working, as it’s been pretty annoying to get set up the way i want already.

[void marlin]

How does the scrap spawn, replacing the paint or normal scrap spawn?

Just asking, also glad to see a bugfix being pushed too.

[lament lichen]

The painting is its own scrap item, so will spawn alongside the Paintings from Vanilla, as well as any other mod that may add a painting.

[void marlin]

Okay,

also for shyguy spawning outside, is it like nighttime enemy or day enemy?

[lament lichen]

he can spawn at any time of the day. You can edit the spawn curve in the config, to make him either more likely the later it gets, or earlier, either way

[void marlin]

Ah okay

[lament lichen]

v1.3.2 has been pushed to thunderstore!

• Fix a regression with the Shy Guy Painting triggering more than once, will now only trigger if it hasn't already triggered.
• Fixed an issue with KillSFX looping over and over again
• Removed Debugging code for Triggering the painting on Interact, this was only ever for testing means.
• fixed an issue with Painting Spawn chance.
• Maybe fixed targetting when a player dies while being chased by shy guy? Not sure, needs testing more.

Thanks @opal rapids and @keen willow for the reports, please let me know if your issues are fixed now 🙂

[opal rapids]

@lament lichen
Unfortunately we found another one- though hopefully it should be a quick fix
If a shy guy spawns from a painting picked up indoors, comes outside and kills a player (the host in our case), then when any other player looks at him or steals the painting again, he DOES start screaming but never chases properly

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(Large pack, but should be reproducible with just the mod installed)

[valid depot]

Logs are long gone and not sure on how to reproduce it, but ive had two strange instances i may as well throw out there:

• Non-host player invincible to shy guy, only to shy guy, player died to something else later - I havent seen this happen again but did happen on current version
• Shy guy will spam PlayerControllerB.Update() errors every frame for a short period of time when looking at him - seen happen a few times, but didnt save the logs from them at the time

[lament lichen]

That first case sounds more like they were using some sort of client side mod giving them god mode or something, Its not something i've seen in testing, and i've had over 100 shy guys chasing two instances when I do testing, so i'd assume i'd see it.

Second issue was one I recall from a while back, but I havent seen since. I'll look back into it, but iirc this hasn't been a noted issue for a good while now.

@opal rapids I sent you a DM regarding your bug, Im fairly sure its related to a known bug I intend to chase down and iron out later this week, might need to get into a game or two with you and do some testing when you're available, and I have something in the works.

[lament lichen]

Correction, found and probably fixed the Log error, looking into the other issue you described and sent me a DM on now

[opal rapids]

Lmk whenever, i will try and make it

[lament lichen]

ngl while i’m working on sorting these bugs on and off, i’m currently addicted to resident evil Requiem, xD. will push an update out soon

[meager locust]

also i think max targets and can exit facility settings are not working

because i set max targets to 3 and it still just kill the one who looked at it

[narrow wadi]

thats what i thoughtk, because i tested with my friend, the shy guy, never kill both of us, when exit facility is active

[lament lichen]

thats normal, lmao. his behaviour is to target the players who A: look at him, or B: cause a targetting event via the painting. I also confirmed this is working independently in my code, since the hasSeenFace check actually checks against this prior to adding targets / triggering.

As for the Exit Facility, im noticing its a little iffy depending on some factors, and I am actively looking at it, along with other issues that are priority fixes. Although I will say my current dev version has none of these issues with my test pack, I still wanna investigate further.

[meager locust]

oh i thought if you triggered him he would chase 2 or 3 players

[glossy canyon]

no just the one who looked at it
else its not a very shy guy behaviour

the max is there as a cap just in case it bumped into a lot of people on the way cuz who knows if there is that one guy thats just gonna drag them into other teammates while running

[lament lichen]

pretty much this exactly, I usually assign a max target of 1 at a time, that way it can only chase one person at a time

[manic kelp]

@lament lichen reminder to just ping/dm me about any stuff that needs testing to get that targetting bug ironed out

[visual fable]

just noticed this guy has gotten new spawn settings. can we override them with LunarConfig? if so, how does it work with the per moon max count setting (which Lunar doesn't have)?

[lament lichen]

I can't answer as I don't use Lunar. Maybe someone else could comment, though.

Also: V80 is in Public Beta. I've already gone ahead and done the work to update Scopo, but im either waiting on LethalLib, or using a replacement. Depends which comes first. V80 Release will not be compatible with lower versions.

[manic kelp]

Was you able to fix the bug with painting aggro and all?

[lament lichen]

As discussed with you, not completely sure yet, so the v80 branch right now could well have bugs.

v1.3.3 is for v80+, use v1.3.2 for v73 etc

[onyx junco]

Just ran the new Scopo, seems to still break:

[Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
Scopophobia.EnemyHelper.GetEnemyType (System.String enemyName) (at ./EnemyHelper.cs:139)
Scopophobia.EnemyDataManager.InitializeEnemyDataList () (at ./EnemyDataManager.cs:33)
Scopophobia.EnemyDataManager.Initialize () (at ./EnemyDataManager.cs:22)
StartOfRoundPatch.StartPatch () (at ./Patches/StartOfRoundPatch.cs:11)
(wrapper dynamic-method) StartOfRound.DMD<StartOfRound::Start>(StartOfRound)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Trampoline<StartOfRound::Start>?-383760734(StartOfRound)
LethalLib.Modules.Items.StartOfRound_Start (On.StartOfRound+orig_Start orig, StartOfRound self) (at ./Modules/Items.cs:145)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Hook<StartOfRound::Start>?1879331348(StartOfRound)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Trampoline<StartOfRound::Start>?281908162(StartOfRound)
LethalLib.Modules.Utilities.StartOfRound_Start (On.StartOfRound+orig_Start orig, StartOfRound self) (at ./Modules/Utilities.cs:77)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Hook<StartOfRound::Start>?1318276232(StartOfRound)

[lament lichen]

welp, that’s a new one. i’ll take a look asap today

[lament lichen]

will have the fix uploaded soon @onyx junco

[lament lichen]

Fixed in v1.3.4

[onyx junco]

Amazing, thanks.

[lament lichen]

Tested against v81, current version should also be fine.

[still surge]

@lament lichen thanks for the amazing work

[rocky verge]

thanks for keeping this mod alive :3

[shell bloom]

Glad to see this updated for v80

[cursive smelt]

great mod, if it would be possible to have an option for 096 to break into the ship in the config it would be great!

[lament lichen]

yeah I can set it as a Config, which by default will be true since its part of his behaviour.

Another note: if anyones noticed any issues that are fixed now in v81, drop a comment, if you notice a still persistent one, let me know as well. my issue notes are out of date, and I have no clue whats still a bug and isn't, lmao.

[shell bloom]

Got a match with ONLY the scp paintings. This did however spawn us 2-3 shy guys rushing us- is this bug known or

[zenith sable]

In vanilla there’s a rare chance of every scrap being the same, it might just be that colliding with modded scrap

[lament lichen]

i’ve seen that even with vanilla scrap, lol

[silver shoal]

Wait I just now thought of

What if you get a Single Item Day and it's all Shy Guy Paintings?

🤣

[lament lichen]

well that would just be unfair, but mildly hilarious to watch xD

[pliant harbor]

Wait does the paintings effect the player ? lore wise would not make a lot of sense 🤔 unless it was a photo ofc

[pine locust]

afaik it's a photo, but in a painting frame lol

would be neat change it to a photo scrap

[pliant harbor]

Arhh yea could make a smaller version that maybe is just a picture of him in game

[shell bloom]

Did make us like, 1,3k from vow

[timber eagle]

Is this creature particularly rare? I havent ever seen it despite going to titan a couple times?

or is it sort of exclusive to the lategame snowy moons? That would probably explain it since i keep sticking to march and offence

[timber eagle]

also i got a bug, I spawned the shy guy in with imperium, aggrod him and he appears to have gotten stuck inside of the exterior?

^ a bit hard to see but you can see his arms poking through

[lament lichen]

Picking up the painting has a random chance to either trigger a shy guy already present, or forcefully spawn a new one.

@timber eagle This is one @opal rapids made me aware of, and im gonna look at it when im finished with what im currently working on for another commission elsewhere.

[shell bloom]

Is the shy guy still able to exit the facility in v81?

[lavish cairn]

most likely yeah

should

[shell bloom]

gah 1s

works now for some stupid reason

[lavish cairn]

hmm

You could also try pairing with StarlancerAIFix

shit if I know

I unfortunately can’t look at that

as im at an airport rn

[shell bloom]

Np

[mighty garnet]

y is this labeled as deprecated now

[rocky verge]

WHAT

its so over.....

https://tenor.com/view/cat-depressed-depression-cat-meowing-meow-gif-15375598609342603011

[silver shoal]

I think UnknownCoder needed to take another Mental health break, this mod and the fiend fork got deprecated and the repos got Archived. Maybe someone else can fork this mod and update it

[mortal mountain]

this is just an issue with experimentation

enemies that go outside get stuck in the building

same with masks

[willow juniper]

It should still work at least for v81 right? That just means it won’t get updated

[onyx junco]

We're so cooked chat

Also just realized I got shouted out in the changelog lmao

The mod works so I dont see why you'd deprecate it

[mortal mountain]

It works!

[onyx junco]

I have confirmed it to work on 81

Albeit there may be compat issues with other mods, who knows

[shell bloom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280314924530405438/1414521333508997180/attachment.gif

[pliant harbor]

https://giphy.com/gifs/see-you-again-QLpMNfBtUi3ss

We gonna be waiting for you Return Buddy

[shell bloom]

Does he only have one max target if this is false? 🤤

[wicked moss]

Default

[shell bloom]

What

[wicked moss]

The max target default is one, for if you have that enabled

[white cairn]

Stack trace:
Scopophobia.EnemyHelper+<>c.<GetEnemyTypes>b__4_0 (SpawnableEnemyWithRarity e) (at ./EnemyHelper.cs:168)
System.Linq.Enumerable+SelectEnumerableIterator`2[TSource,TResult].MoveNext () (at <ea489521390f48908a7ce45cb17a6848>:IL_0048)
System.Linq.Enumerable+WhereEnumerableIterator`1[TSource].MoveNext () (at <ea489521390f48908a7ce45cb17a6848>:IL_004E)
Scopophobia.EnemyHelper.GetEnemyTypes () (at ./EnemyHelper.cs:171)
Scopophobia.EnemyHelper.GetEnemyType (System.String enemyName) (at ./EnemyHelper.cs:133)
Scopophobia.EnemyHelper.SetMaxSpawnCount (System.String enemyName, System.Int32 maxSpawnCount, System.String planetName) (at ./EnemyHelper.cs:77)
Scopophobia.EnemyDataManager.SetEnemyDataForCurrentLevel () (at ./EnemyDataManager.cs:144)
RoundManagerPatch.LoadNewLevelPatch () (at ./Patches/RoundManagerPatch.cs:16)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::LoadNewLevel>(RoundManager,int,SelectableLevel)
StartOfRound+<OpenShipDoors>d__307.MoveNext () (at <aca1e98d6f844d3f85cd22b6f7be2f9b>:IL_007F)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <c39a522eee05469b8171a6cfeb646c59>:IL_0026)```

So... is it working for v81?

[timber eagle]

Oh fuck is it broken

[lavish cairn]

should be

the last update was for v81

[pliant harbor]

Just remember to have patience he has a lot of things going with his life, atm he is gone, and all there is to do is wait in patience until he come back, bug reports are the only thing you can do, asking for fixes might be a lost cause atm

[vague badger]

My group and I just appreciate modders for all that they do. When the mod is back up, we'll love having the ShyGuy again.

[pliant harbor]

Glad to hear it! i know shy guy is not a part of ProjectSCP but I have written a lot with Unknown coder and have a good idea what could be going on, so just thought it would be a good idea to post a message in his stead

[wicked moss]

I hope he's doing ok

[pliant harbor]

All we can do is hope, and send him as much love we can in here, and most of all ofc have patience ^^

[wicked moss]

Yep

[dry pendant]

oh, I hope they are ok. Me and my friends love this mod so much

[opaque acorn]

i think i heard on the grapevine someone bruteforced into their accounts and they had to lock shit down (potentially on top of everything else)

he should be fine, idk what the current status is but i hope he's regained control of shit