Employee Classes

[hallow jackal]

I agree. I assure you I'll do that

I just haven't gotten to it yet

[radiant blade]

Has anyone made the models?

[river lynx]

nope, but I've done some designs and tilted was gonna do the models

idk if we're doing modelreplacementAPI for the models or doing a system where we just add shit on top of the base model without actually changing it

[bitter sand]

I still think Add Shit On Top is the better option so it doesn't break cosmetics and stuff

[hallow jackal]

That's what I'm thinking

[river lynx]

will it if it has the same overall proportions?

[bitter sand]

expound?

[hallow jackal]

Researcher status update:

Researcher can now harvest dead enemies, synthesize stims, and use them on himself. Working on the other players part of that.

Stims instantaneously regenerate 30% health and will gradually refill the rest at a rate of 10% per second. Taking damage interrupts the process and stops the regen.

[river lynx]

oo

that's like the opposite of what the og stim health mechanic was but it's a pretty good take on it I suppose!

[hallow jackal]

Oh

[river lynx]

also probably way harder to reduce hp than to add it

[hallow jackal]

Maybe I didn't pay enough attention

OH

Yeah

[river lynx]

og idea was it'd fill to near max hp and then trickle down

[hallow jackal]

I'm not going to do the trickle unless it's too powerful this way

[river lynx]

oh yeye sounds good

[hallow jackal]

Maybe if you stim a player who's at full health, they get a brief speed/stamina boost and mild TZP effect. Thoughts?

[river lynx]

that's what the adren from l4d does, I just didn't include it in the main idea cuz I thought it'd be a lot

but I think it's worth a shot

[hallow jackal]

Hehe

Worth a shot

[river lynx]

atleast like a 2 or 3 second speed boost woul-

booo!!! booooo!!!!!!!!!!!

LMAO

[hallow jackal]

You said it, not me

[raven fog]

the scout should have a scattergun, a baseball bat and be able to double jump

would be very original

monty agrees

[flint moss]

monty a coward for not speaking up that he agrees

smh

[bitter sand]

double jump should be a scout perk tho huh

@river lynx 2-slot Scout double jump?

[bitter sand]

get a force-a-nature from a nutcracker and a shovel, let loose

[river lynx]

i hate this guy btw

[river lynx]

eh

i mean could be

[bitter sand]

did you ever get a doc up for perk brainstorming btw

[river lynx]

oh nah i've been doing other shit

tell me when you're free tho

[bitter sand]

am

[raven fog]

pm

[river lynx]

sorry I can tomorrow cuz today I was doing a 1 sesh terraria playthrough with some friends

heehee

[compact pollen]

how is this going 👀

[hallow jackal]

The next few weeks are incredibly busy for me. Don't expect many updates

[river lynx]

All good!

[river lynx]

FINALLY DID A PROPER MAINTENANCE GUY DESIGN!!!!!!!

he has a battery pack on the left side that powers his headlamp and also his tools!

turns out all I needed was to make him assymetric

[late oasis]

yooooo hell yeah

these slap

[river lynx]

oh yeah, thoughts? @bitter sand @hallow jackal

[bitter sand]

Looks good!

The helmet is meant to inspire the idea of a hard hat right?

[river lynx]

mhm, it has a little overhang at the front

generic helped me come up w it when he showed me a fallout 4 hat

[static pulsar]

too long too read unfortunately but are you able to provide models or do you want all too look the same but have the functionality implemented when class is chosen?

[bitter sand]

the goal is to have some model overlays at least

so there's a visual for your chosen class

[river lynx]

the goal is to make em look like this (roughly) #1198790641933635674 message

[static pulsar]

I see sounds like a good idea so far do you have models for it or can you provide some theoretically?

[river lynx]

tilted hat will be in charge of the models

coding is going well but has slowed down a bit, but only a bit

[static pulsar]

Alright i see

[river lynx]

3 classes are pretty much implemented, only need the last one and some balancing/finishing touches I assume?

[static pulsar]

Sounds great looking forward to see it

[restive parcel]

Genuinely cannot contain my excitement for this

Back in November was talking to some friends about how cool I thought it would be if there where different crewmate suits that players could wear and would effectively act as a class system, each one having it's own advantages and disadvantages

Having lurked in this thread for months and observed the progress I always end up rather giddy. This is SO cool

[main cliff]

when is the release? or have I already missed it?

[dim dragon]

Not out yet, dev on break for 2 weeks

[west saddle]

love the idea looks incredibly cool tbh i think this would be added in the game officialy maybe later in an update or smth

[pulsar moth]

Monty cooking as always🔥🔥🔥

[hallow jackal]

I like it 👌

[river lynx]

important resource I founde

#1187188516644474911 message

[river lynx]

how's it going jade @hallow jackal

I honestly forgot if you were still gonna work on this, or if you were just on vacation or whatev

[raven fog]

https://tenor.com/view/cool-shark-shark-yerah-yeah-shark-yeah-gif-17883556731611562555

[flint moss]

If it ever turns out that this idea gets abandoned lmk, I already have the system setup in coderebirth anyway 😂

[river lynx]

booo

that's not gonna encourage anyone here LMAO but thanks for letting us know ig

[low kelp]

Even then this should probably be a separate mod

[flint moss]

Rude, you're the one who didn't know if the original dev left the project, rather it being abandoned than me working on it is insane lol

[river lynx]

nono I wouldn't rather it be abandoned than you work on it lmao

All i'm saying is stating that you already have a system and stuff set up for something similar is just slightly demoralizing

at least for me, but idk

It's not a problem w you working on it

[flint moss]

I was helping dajadeninja set up his networking stuff lol, obviously I've had it setup

[river lynx]

well I didn't know lmao

don't remember seeing you in the thread

[flint moss]

That's fine lol, it wasn't in the thread anyway

And by setup I mean the structure to build stuff like upgrades, not exactly what this mod offers from dajadeninja as he's built it so far but would've been a clean starting point if need be

[river lynx]

neato

[quaint mulch]

this is the 2101th message

[raven fog]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-dumb-cat-stupid-cat-stupid-car-dumb-car-gif-3440626992816180205

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mr 2100th message

[hallow jackal]

I just returned. Development can resume

[hallow jackal]

Xu was very helpful teaching me the networking stuff in another thread a while back

[river lynx]

hell yeah! p cool

had 0 idea she was involved LMAO she's very knowledgeable

[hallow jackal]

My current to-do list:

• Add Mechanic/Engineer/Whatever-it's-called
• Make footstep volume sync properly over network
• Allow for the conversion of monster extract to cc
• Make brutes appear to baboon hawks as an armed player
• Disable using abilities when moving furniture

After that's done, I'm ready to make things pretty with a better menu and the helmet models can begin

[river lynx]

hell yeah

[hallow jackal]

For Maintenance, I'm torn

Do I give them what would essentially be a mobile ship computer or just allow them to interact with doors/turrets/mines within view from a distance?

[river lynx]

oh idk if i ever dropped my idea for what they'd do

Maintenance in my eyes could work rlly well with like, an item they can't drop that has a battery charge, this item would allow them to interact with turrets, mines, spike traps and blast doors to turn them off or open them in the case of blast doors

the battery charge could work well to balance it out and also works well with maintenance having more battery life by default

also maybe the interaction to turn hazards off or open/close blast doors could take a few seconds, hazards 5 and blast doors 8?

[river lynx]

the item they can't drop thing also doubles as these two stats

[river lynx]

there's also apparatus interactions I think could be interesting

like having maintenance guys have an apparatus holder they can keep it in to further increase battery power or smth

[hallow jackal]

That's an interesting idea, but I have qualms about removing slots

[hallow jackal]

I like the idea of apparatus interactions

[river lynx]

yeh it's a little weird

[hallow jackal]

Atm, Researcher and Scout aren't great at carrying stuff, so it'll fall to brute and maintenance

[bitter sand]

Maintenance can vent walk yes or no?

Because if so they can very safely haul items through certain parts of the facility

[hallow jackal]

Vent walking seems more like a scout thing/a perk

I'm writing out what I have for maintenance rn so you guys can tell me if it sucks

[bitter sand]

Scouts can't vent

Mechanics go in vents

[hallow jackal]

But mechanic is clunky

[bitter sand]

They inspect

They climb around in there

[hallow jackal]

Ooooh

[bitter sand]

"ma'am you've got a leak"

[hallow jackal]

It would complement maintenance because they'd be able to go wherever the team needs tech stuff done

[bitter sand]

And then their hips get stuck in the vent opening, "oh no step-employee" etc etc

[hallow jackal]

But maybe not as the default

[bitter sand]

Yeah it'd probably be a perk

2-slot perk

[hallow jackal]

For sure

Idk who wants to be responsible for models, but I'm ready to implement that as soon as I have assets. Speak up and I'll tell you what I need

[bitter sand]

I'm the de facto modeler at the moment

[hallow jackal]

Okay

I want to implement it with something similar to MoreCompany cosmetics. I don't think overlaying the helmet entirely is an option because that would make everyone's head look slightly bigger, so I think small modifications that can be overlaid is the way to go. (E.g. scout's got an antenna, researcher has the sensors and vials on his belt)

Then I can just attach them to the player model and update them for all players

Thoughts?

[bitter sand]

Well yeah

That makes sense

[river lynx]

true true, that's an interesting idea

[river lynx]

would you want to go thru with the model replacements or would you like to see if we can manage to get a "cosmetics" system going for these?

i'm all for compat with custom models but I think half of these would look a little jank if coupled w most custom models

[river lynx]

that's a good idea yeah

it would mean some parts of my design wouldn't really be able to be put into the designs, but I could find a way to get around that

[hallow jackal]

I think monty's designs are perfect for this, but some things, e.g. the jacket, alternate helmet lenses, and tubes would have to go

[river lynx]

some things i'm thinking could be hard to translate to a cosmetics system would be: scout's, brute's and researcher's torso not having the cross band things (img1), brute's gloves going over the suit (img2), researcher's tube helmet design (img3)

everything else should work I think

[river lynx]

you think the jacket needs to go?

I have some cosmetic mods that have torso pieces like that and they don't look too jank most of the time

also idk what we'd do for the "apparatus holder" for maintenance but we can figure something out (I also didn't account for it in the design lmao)

[river lynx]

also I think tubes could work p well, you'd just have em stick out of the filter spots on the normal helmet

I think the three things that wouldn't work (or would look kinda jank) are the bands, which i don't mind really

[hallow jackal]

But as the head rotates, they need to stay connected to the tanks

[river lynx]

they're only not there so as to not clutter up the designs, but honestly it could give models like scout's a more tactical look

[river lynx]

yeh, cosmetics do that

or wait

oooh like, rotate up?

[hallow jackal]

Yea

[river lynx]

I see what you mean yeah

[bitter sand]

I imagine it as something either on the back or the underside of the airtanks

[bitter sand]

That's just a weight painting thing

Right?

Like that's just a rigging task?

[river lynx]

my one idea if we were gonna do model replacements was like, just have a single tank and have the other one be the holder

[bitter sand]

I think doing cosmetic changes instead of replacements is fun because it'll automatically be compatible with basically everything

[hallow jackal]

I don't know squat about modeling. If you think you can do it, go for it

[bitter sand]

I made the femployee model and getting the helmet tubes to stay connected to the air tanks is literally something I had to to

[river lynx]

tyeh

[river lynx]

tilted's smart they'll figure it out

[bitter sand]

I'm not smart I'm just stupid quickly

And very persistent

[hallow jackal]

Would it look bad if scout had a Star Wars scout trooper esque visor?

The apparatus holder would ideally hold a full-size aparatus, but that's kind of bulky if we're going to make it work with the tanks already there. Any indicator could work. Something on the belt or cross straps that lights up?

I like monty's designs

[river lynx]

that's kinda the vibe I went with for maintenance

god I love scout troopers they've got such a cool design

[river lynx]

could be, ye

like uuh

[river lynx]

lemme do a side view of maintenance

this is scout

[hallow jackal]

Oh, so scout already has a visor

[river lynx]

yeh he has like a hat brim basically lmao

atleast that's what I interpreted the og art as

cuz of the little overhang

[hallow jackal]

I like it

Anyways. I'll implement them as soon as I've got models

[bitter sand]

I've got some comms to grind out before I can lay hands on this

[hallow jackal]

No rush

I appreciate your help

[hallow jackal]

• Researcher's stim now grants a TZP effect that's even stronger if you stim a player already at full health
• Brute is extra scary to baboon hawks

[bitter sand]

as he should be

big boi

[river lynx]

ooo that's super cool

love that

[hallow jackal]

After some testing:

• I may give brute the ability to kick in doors by default until perks exist
• Researcher's stim count needs to work differently

For the stim count: Researcher will have one stim slot that refreshes automatically when in orbit. Synthesized stims fill the other slots, but the one that restores itself is always used first.

[low kelp]

Beta wen?

[river lynx]

that makes sense yeah

also kicking doors open would be really neet for brute

a way to balance it out would be to just have it take a full stamina bar or smth

or take a bunch of stamina off you

[bitter sand]

Until perks are implemented the employees can be a lil OP and overdesigned

[hallow jackal]

Can't commit to a time, but my best estimate is that the coding will be presentable within the next month or two (idk what Tilted's schedule is gonna look like for the models). I just need to fix bugs and finish Maintenance.

I'm starting college next month, and that's going to be an enormous life-change with a lot of unknowns, so we'll see how that affects development speed.

[hallow jackal]

Please feel free to tear this design apart. I'm not a huge fan of it.

Maintenance
A specialized class capable of interacting with technology found in the facility. Maintenance carries a dim headlamp, freeing up an extra slot to carry loot. The extra equipment makes mobility clunky and loud.

Pros:

+Time is always visible
-50% Bullet Damage

Cons:

+10% Footstep Volume
-5% Sprint Speed
-10% Max Stamina

Ability: Headlamp

Toggle a dim headlamp (slightly less bright than a default flashlight) by pressing F. It never runs out of charge.

Ability: Hack

Looking at a turret/door/mine will highlight it, showing its designation. (G7, E1, etc.) Hold F for 3 seconds to temporarily deactivate the selected hazard and toggle blast doors.

[low kelp]

-50% bullet damage? That doesnt make much sense to me

[hallow jackal]

I'm iffy about the bullet-proofing, but I think it would make Maintenance more special and be justified by the bulkier kit. It's somewhat related to their job of disabling turrets and would also make them the teammate responsible for dealing with nutcrackers

If it ends up being weird, OP, or useless, I'll nix it

[low kelp]

I figured the brute would be the "go fuck that thing up" player

[hallow jackal]

He is. It gives maintenance a little bit of that, but only in a very specific way.

The bullet-proofing would also help oopsies when disabling turrets facing a doorway since you need to see them to disable them

It might be better as a perk

[low kelp]

How about a sort of jammer, to make electrical things like turrets and nutcrackers take longer to detect you?

[bitter sand]

easier to deal with turrets

without just being immune

[hallow jackal]

One of my friends just suggested

What if Maintenance has extra visibility through steam

[low kelp]

Or how about "light amplification" goggles

[bitter sand]

This is very good perk material at least so yeah throw it in

[river lynx]

Alright, I'm reading this

• 50% Bullet damage is a bit interesting cuz it means that you can run to turrets head on to disarm them, that's a neat idea
• Time is always visible is ok, not much to comment there
• 10% Max stamina is a huuuge difference, I think if it didn't have less sprint speed it wouldn't be that bad but this guy is slow as bricks.
• Headlamp being less bright than a default flashlight is booty cheeks, the default flashlight is ass and even if this doesn't have a charge it's reaaaaal bad
• The hack ability is good, I like that you imeplemented scan into it, not much else to say other than blast doors should probably take longer.

Overall I'd say this is a bit meh, it's dragged down by a loot by every single stat change and its really bad lamp, the only good thing about it is the hack ability and the 50% bullet damage, but realistically due to being so slow and having so much less stamina you're unlikely to ever be able to dodge a turret efficiently enough to have the reduced damage matter

[bitter sand]

"time is always visible" could honestly be a perk any employee can pick up for one slot

[low kelp]

So there will be 4 classes, at least initially, right?

[bitter sand]

yeh

Scout Brute Researcher Mechanic

Scout has shmovement, Brute has violence and durability, Researcher has information, Mechanic has solutions

[river lynx]

I think you could do three things to improve this:

• Buff the flashlight to be inbetween default and pro. If you straight up do pro, give it a battery life.
• Nerf the hack mechanic to take longer on blast doors and give it a battery life so that it's more interesting and dynamic.
• Remove 5% off the stamina decrease.

My reasoning is that the hack mechanic is a bit boring in that it just allows you to turn off turrets and landmines at any point, there's no decision making involved in this, there's no risk to being near any hazard anymore cuz you can just turn it off indefinitely. By adding a certain limit to how many times you can do this it becomes a bigger part of gameplay to decide whether it's the right time to turn shit off or not.

If this feels like too huge of a nerf, you can just give indefinite uses and then a 30 second or minute long cooldown after however many uses you feel is fair

[low kelp]

I personally think the "idiot" class idea has a lot of potential. Definitely needs to be a later update

[bitter sand]

the Company Representitive concept?

[hallow jackal]

Okay

[low kelp]

Fool

[river lynx]

Overall I like the concept but it has a lot of glaring issues, and it feels like it can only shine in a few scenarios and then it's booty everywhere else

playing with the concept of battery life and charge is interesting to me at least because it's a mechanic that's already in the game that helps limit how good your shit is, and it'll allow for future perks to increase your battery life

[hallow jackal]

Hack will have a cooldown

For headlamp, I think it would be worthwhile even if it's just as bright as the basic flashlight but with longer charge

[river lynx]

if it's basic flashlight with longer charge I can mess with that, ye

[hallow jackal]

I think the mobility debuffs need to be there (even if they need balancing atm) because health or weight penalties doesn't make sense for Maintenance. Without them, it becomes an elite solo operative capable of bypassing tech and having an extra slot

[low kelp]

Handcrank flashlight

[hallow jackal]

Please hold. I hit enter too soon

[river lynx]

LMAO all good

[hallow jackal]

There we go

Is there a different debuff that would make sense and could stack with a really light movement penalty?

[bitter sand]

Bigger collision box would be a weird one

[hallow jackal]

Idea: Maintenance could have a general "power meter" that is spent by using hack and the headlamp, meaning they have limited resources

[bitter sand]

I think limited resource is absolutely in the spirit of LC as a whole

[hallow jackal]

Perhaps it's solar/lunar powered so it recharges outdoors

[bitter sand]

And just have it reset each moon

Oh or that

[hallow jackal]

Meaning they either have to step outside and pop back in or they can haul loot while it recharges

[river lynx]

oh wait, there's an extra slot?

so you have 5?

[bitter sand]

The 5th slot is the flashlight I think

[river lynx]

I mean ye, that's just the battery charge, no?

[bitter sand]

The headlamp rather

[hallow jackal]

But split between the lamp AND hacks

[river lynx]

mhm, they'd have their own battery is what you mean, right?

[bitter sand]

I mean thematically the mechanic's job is like

The rogue in D&D

[river lynx]

that would be cool ngl

could add a little solar panel behind the jetpacks

[bitter sand]

You disarm traps and move slowly and carefully

[river lynx]

make the class look clunkier

[river lynx]

I think adding to footstep volume and decreasing the stamina penalty slightly could be a fine compromise, maybe?

make you work for your stealth?

I think i'm taking a liking to the movement decrease, but i'm still iffy on the 10%

solar powered gear with limited uses is a great idea actually, you kinda cooked

[hallow jackal]

Yeah. The 10% is prob too much

Side note: I need to make researcher fill the forest giants' awareness meter-or-whatever-it's-called slower

[low kelp]

I feel like that should be a scout thing?

[river lynx]

yeh, good idea

[hallow jackal]

Scout isn't sneaky

[river lynx]

scouts are meant to take aggro and run fast

[low kelp]

Fair

[river lynx]

their main stat boosts are in speed and stamina, and they have less health i think

[hallow jackal]

Less health and a speed penalty for items over 20lbs

[river lynx]

I guess if i needed to justify researcher's stealth you could say they have more experience doing stuff like field research so they know their way around more

[river lynx]

forgot about that penalty

is it for singular items over 20lb? or when they go over 20lb

[hallow jackal]

When they go over

[river lynx]

was it ever much of a problem when playtesting?

[hallow jackal]

Nope

It doesn't slow you to a dragging pace. I built it so that a scout over 20lbs is just slower than a brute at the same weight

It means scout makes quick trips back and forth piling things closer to the entrance or retrieving them for other teammates to carry

But can still carry a full load themself if they need to

[river lynx]

great great

do you think we'd need models to release stuff as a beta or could we just drop the gameplay stuff by itself?

[bitter sand]

Colored suits for beta testing?

[hallow jackal]

I'll probably make an identification system and release gameplay as soon as maintenance is done

I may just add a little colored flag to your back tanks

Btw, I've put the API thing on hold, but I intend to get it going eventually. Even if it means I may need to rewrite some stuff in the future, I'd like to get the base version running first

[river lynx]

mhm, probably something like that

[river lynx]

of course of course!!! it'd be best to get the base mod done first so it can get some following outside the thread

and then when you feel ready you can start working on the API

[quaint mulch]

brute should have compatibility with the punching mod making it deal more damage too lol

[low kelp]

I was thinking for the brute, maybe lower the footstep pitch?

[river lynx]

that'd be a cool as a little side addition, yeh

we haven't talked much about sound design but it'd be great to have differing sound effects for each class

stuff like a different scan sound for researcher, an added sfx to maintenance's footsteps

[bitter sand]

that would be really fun yeah

[hallow jackal]

I like that idea

Wouldn't be too hard either

Perhaps brute can only kick in doors with an empty inventory? Meaning you have to set everything down to knock it open

[river lynx]

that sounds like a smart idea

[quaint mulch]

who needs a lockpick when you got yo legs 💀

[hallow jackal]

Should you be able to kick any door in or just the ones that open the correct way?

[quaint mulch]

imagine it was like the fiend where it just gets literally kicked off

[river lynx]

correct way is also a good way to balance it

maybe do correct way + empty handed instead of empty inventory

[hallow jackal]

I'm going to give it only a 1/4 chance to open the door

But it won't start the cooldown unless you succeed.

[flint moss]

You gonna add any animations from the player to it or nah?

[hallow jackal]

I am

[river lynx]

so you'll just have to spam it to get it open?

[hallow jackal]

It takes a moment to wind up the kick

And costs stamina

but yes

[river lynx]

yee I like that

[flint moss]

Goodluck

[dim dragon]

Gonna mention lethal hands did it again

It is finnicky without sort of a dedicated state like it uses

[river lynx]

honestly I could see some vanilla anims being used for the kicking

like the running anim playing for one step or smth

[flint moss]

I'm curious to see how they did it

Oh they use lethal emotes api

Eugh

[hallow jackal]

What's wrong with lethal emotes api?

[flint moss]

Nothing insane, it's just a really unoptimised way for animating the player from what I can tell

It just sets the bones of the player to the bones u specify every Update call

Which is just bleh

I wanted to do my stuff how they did it before, but animatoroverridecontroller was more than enough for my needs

If you can find a vanilla animation in the game that u can just "trigger", sort of like space for jump, doesn't matter what the trigger is, then u can use an AnimatorOverrideController instead

For my custom item grab animations I replace the HoldClipboard grab animation

Every time my item is equipped I tell it to replace the animation clip

[hallow jackal]

I might just use the step then

[low kelp]

1/4 chance to open the door, consumes entire stamina bar?

[hallow jackal]

Consumes one tenth

[bitter sand]

makes noise tho

[hallow jackal]

I may just give maintenance a lower sprint speed without tanking the stamina bar

Thoughts?

[river lynx]

hmm

yeah sure, that sounds good

either that or the opposite would be nice

like lower stamina, slightly better speed than normal employee

so you can do short burts?

[hallow jackal]

I feel like that's weird for Maintenance

[river lynx]

ye I was just kinda spitballing

so lower sprint speed would be what, 10%?

and base stamina?

or would you give a small + on stamina?

[hallow jackal]

That's what I'm thinking

Oooh

A longer run that's a bit slower would be cool

[dim dragon]

I tried this for while but couldn't get animations to reset reliably after the overriding one finished

[hallow jackal]

For Maintenance, I think the bullet proofing might be better at 75%. If it's just 50%, then he's only as good at resisting it as a Brute

[dim dragon]

Ended up having an arm backwards half the time

[bitter sand]

oh speaking of extended stamina

I know we contemplated the idea of vent-crawling a couple times

it could be that you can't "breathe" in vents which slowly drains your stamina, and after running out of stamina you start losing health

[hallow jackal]

I like the vent crawling a lot...

[bitter sand]

meaning you A) can't safely cross super long distances indoors and B) can't just hide permanently

[flint moss]

It's super simple, look how I do it in coderebirth, it's like 1 line of code

[river lynx]

yeh, carrying around a big solar panel on your back would slow you down but you'd gain some resistance doing so

[river lynx]

75% is good

[river lynx]

still happens with the snowglobe on code rebirth lmao

@flint moss happened to generic today btw

[flint moss]

Nah that's not backwards, smthn else

It's only when u grab it while crouched

[river lynx]

I like vent crawling, but if we don't want a class with too many features by default we should definitely leave it as a future perk

[flint moss]

And reverses once u pocket and reequip while standing up

[river lynx]

otherwise if vent crawling IS a thing we do, we can keep the terrible stamina and speed lmao

[river lynx]

well, he grabbed the snowglobe, put it away and his hands were permanently backwards

[flint moss]

If they're like actually backwards then that's not me, kind of is me but would be another mod double fucking up

[river lynx]

the fore arms were backwards

[flint moss]

Was he fine standing still or completely screwed

[river lynx]

just all the time lmao

every animation had the fore arms backwards

[flint moss]

My replacement shouldn't bend em like that so idk but probably an incompatibility somewhere, haven't had anyone report backwards forearm before

When was this?

Also sorry for taking over dajade

[river lynx]

today

like uuuh an hour ago I think

lemme send you the clip in dee ehms

[flint moss]

Oh perfect

[hallow jackal]

Quick question. How do I reference Texture2ds already in the game?

[flint moss]

You'll have to find where they're stored if they're cached or do something like Resources.FindObjectsOfType etc

[hallow jackal]

Should weather make mechanic recharge slower?

[river lynx]

hmm...

maybe that'll complicate things but like

I say just have eclipsed boost the charge and foggy slow it down a little bit

how long would it take for maintenance to recharge from empty to full?

[hallow jackal]

I say like 10 seconds

Would it be weird if I used the same bar for Maintenance as Researcher but in yellow?

[river lynx]

uuuh

I mean, again I just think you should use the battery ui element

[hallow jackal]

But what about when you're holding an item that uses battery?

[river lynx]

hmm, right

[bitter sand]

I think your personal kit battery would have its own dedicated battery icon

simple as

[river lynx]

how about something like this?

[bitter sand]

mad cluttered, put it south of the stamina

[river lynx]

would look weird without the 1st battery ui though

hmm

[bitter sand]

similar to the researcher meter for drugs

[river lynx]

here?

what's the current look for the researcher meter btw?

[hallow jackal]

I haven't desaturated it yet

[river lynx]

have you thought about making it conform to the shape of the stamina bar?

also filling in these?

[hallow jackal]

Down here, it's compatible with other mods

[river lynx]

I think if you did it'd fit maintenance quite well

[hallow jackal]

Around the stamina bar is taken

[river lynx]

makes sense, yeah

I assume above the hotbar would be a bit hard to keep track of?

[hallow jackal]

Like, just fill them in for maintenance. Or researcher too?

[hallow jackal]

I like it all in one place

[river lynx]

i'd say for both, but it might look a bit chunky? it's worth a shot I guess

[river lynx]

yah

[bitter sand]

this is way snazzier

we could even make it work to power electric tools you're using that are outta battery

so the mechanic becomes "The Tool Guy"

more zap gun charge, more jetpack fuel, longer flashlight usage

[river lynx]

I mean, originally I thought we'd go about it like that

like, just give the maintenance guy a battery charge buff and an an extra slot with an item they can't drop, which would be the way they turn off hazards and open blast doors, the

have them be able to turn on their helmet light when they have an empty hand

[bitter sand]

I think the helmet light should be kinda mid, to have there be a reason to at least use the pro flashlight

but like, any light is better than nothin

[river lynx]

it's about default flashlight level I think

[hallow jackal]

It's default but with a narrower cone

[bitter sand]

yeah like

marginally worse

you wouldn't wanna take a default since the lost inventory space doesn't offset it being slightly better

that's just the benchmark you're operating with

[hallow jackal]

It lasts 250 seconds without using hacks. That's slightly less time than a pro

[bitter sand]

well your personal battery reserve amount we can probably funk with

if you can recharge your reserve any time you go outside then it'll need to be on the smaller side

if you have a set reserve for the entire moon then your personal reserve can be better

[river lynx]

I think it's fine that it's 4 minutes of continuous use cuz it fucking sucks LMAO

[hallow jackal]

And it'll be reduced by hacks

[river lynx]

in a good way btw

not in a bad way

yeah

[hallow jackal]

Playtesting will reveal stuff

I'm not too worried about particular values rn

[hallow jackal]

We've got headlamp

Hacking and then mechanic is done

I'm gonna redo the HUD for it though. I don't like that bar

[bitter sand]

I think this bar is really good

Because it follows the curve of the other battery meter

[river lynx]

like jade said before, it's for compat's sake I believe

[hallow jackal]

Yeah

Other mods wrap around like that

[bitter sand]

Ah

But

[hallow jackal]

I could make it configurable

[bitter sand]

Ours is better 🥺

[river lynx]

I mean unless this bar moves down with those mods installed it's still gonna obstruct the view

[hallow jackal]

And if you want compatibility, you can choose the ugly UI

[river lynx]

oh yeha, that's a good idea

[bitter sand]

Also

While you have a reactor core plugged into your pack your headlamp is twice as strong with no battery limit right?

[hallow jackal]

I love that

But maybe more balanced

[river lynx]

yeh i've got a bunch of apparatus synergy ideas

[hallow jackal]

It needs to have some sort of limit. Like, it lasts two or three days and then you need a new core but can still sell the old one

[bitter sand]

The balance is that you're carrying a however-many-pounds piece of $80 loot on your back

[hallow jackal]

Ohhh

[bitter sand]

Oh this is pretty clean tho

[hallow jackal]

The weight would still affect you

[bitter sand]

Yeh

You have a "5th slot" for apparatus but you're absolutely still bearing the weight

[river lynx]

mhm

[bitter sand]

And, again, the inherent risk of entering the building with an $80 piece of loot

[hallow jackal]

I'm an idiot

I've been trying to figure out why the clock wouldn't do the always-display thing with maintenance

I forgot I set it to only do that when you crouch

[bitter sand]

LMAO

[hallow jackal]

The time has come. I suspect making hacks looks nice will be a doozy

So I'ma start simple and then make it fancy

[dim dragon]

There is a hacker tool mod already I think if you want to look at it

[hallow jackal]

I think I know how I'll do it

It's just going to be the graphics that'll be tricky

I need to figure out how I want to highlight your current hack target

[bitter sand]

Probably with something similar to the scan display?

[river lynx]

you can just put in likee little clanking worky mechanic noises while you interact with the turrets, then have it have the same interact circle progress bar animation as doors and stuff

and visually from the outside you can make sparks come out

[hallow jackal]

How much should a hack cost?

I'm thinking 20%

We gots hacks

[bitter sand]

Depends what the hack does

[hallow jackal]

Same effect as the terminal

[bitter sand]

If it's literally the terminal's temporary disarm then it could be pretty lenient

[hallow jackal]

Three seconds to hack

[bitter sand]

20% means you can only disable 5 times per run with NO flashlighting

At least until you go touch grass

[hallow jackal]

Yeah

[bitter sand]

So I'd say like, 10% should be good

[hallow jackal]

Okay

I'm doing some playtesting tonight, so I'll be able to mess around with the value

[bitter sand]

You can hack security doors too right?

Yeah so 10% to start and maybe 15% will be needed but I'd be shocked if 20% felt right

[hallow jackal]

I think you should have to step outside at least once if you're using it to the max

I suspect 15% will end up being the spot

[river lynx]

oh that headlight effect is good asf

[river lynx]

I def think hacks should take longer (like a single second or two) or you should be closer to them to hack stuff

rn it looks like you're opening it w your mind

[hallow jackal]

They do now

[river lynx]

but super good flashlight effect, love it

[hallow jackal]

I've also added sfx since that video

[river lynx]

oh that's good then

[hallow jackal]

What should the range on this hack be?

[flint moss]

Grabbable x1.5?

[bitter sand]

that feels like a good gut check yeah

"vaguely close"

definitely nothing longer than scanner range

[hallow jackal]

Did hoarding bugs get a health buff in v56?

[bitter sand]

technically yes but no

the had a glitch fixed where sometimes they would get hit multiple times by a single instance of damage

[river lynx]

just grabbable range is good

[river lynx]

oh btw some feedback on the ui element of the battery is I think it should be a little shorter

like half the size or smth

[river lynx]

heeeell yeah

[hallow jackal]

What if you can hack old birds as a perk later?

And just put them to sleep

[hallow jackal]

Sounds good

Actually

I might set it up right now so you can hack old birds and nutcrackers to stun them for a bit

Yay or nay?

[bitter sand]

that'd be crazy

since I don't think anything can stun them currently right?

[river lynx]

yeah I'd be down

[river lynx]

I'd say just old birds, nutcrackers afaik are controlled by the little organism inside it, so they shouldn't be hackable

[river lynx]

they can be stunned, yes

[river lynx]

I think with the old birds I'd be down, not so much nuts imo

but only due to lore

[hallow jackal]

Agreed

Imagine going to Embrion and actually making it back to the ship unmolested

[river lynx]

it'd be reaaaally hard to turn off one

[hallow jackal]

You just have survive next to it for three seconds

[jolly dune]

Challenge: impossible

[hallow jackal]

Easy if it's blowing someone else to smithereens

Unless there are ten of them

[bitter sand]

using the hack to wake them up early

[river lynx]

that's true, could also be used for that

[hallow jackal]

I think I'm almost ready for beta

I have few features to add and I need to make a way to distinguish classes. I'll also make the menu more clean (but it won't be the final version where it's a clipboard yet)

Where it stands now:

• Every class is fully functional mechanically. They play uniquely and generate plenty of "man, I wish I was that class right now instead of this one" moments for each, allowing teammates to fill in those roles. The abilities feel impactful and unique for each class without being too powerful or weak
• There's a hideous menu available from the pause screen in orbit which players can use to choose classes
• No config yet

Before beta:

• Add a way to tell what class someone is by looking at them
• Clean up the menu and use it as a one time pop-up (with class info instead of just names) before landing rather than an always-there sort of thing in the ship
• Give Maintenance the ability to hack old birds and see through steam
• Nerf Maintenance with a stamina debuff because it's currently better than the other classes. Too many pros without enough cons (and you can inverse in without worrying about having no light)
• Balance Brute's kick cooldown to make him more useful when no shovel is available
• Redesign UI and fix positioning for different screen sizes

[jolly dune]

woow 😮

crazy news

i'd defo say, wait til v60 drops

[hallow jackal]

Oh yeah. I don't expect it to be ready before then

[river lynx]

if you can make maintenance see thru steam I think it'd be cool if it could only do that with the headlight

[hallow jackal]

I may just let them scan for the valve

[bitter sand]

also valid

[river lynx]

yeh that's a cool idea too

[hallow jackal]

I'm unbelievable excited about this mod

[river lynx]

I am too man!! you've been doing some good ass work

[restive parcel]

Have you thought about tying the classes to suits on the suit rack?

[dim dragon]

Last I read, they were looking at using a clipboard form system to change class

[bitter sand]

it was something that got thrown around but it's kind of a clunky solution that can result in a lotta incompatibility

[restive parcel]

Ah alrighty. Yeah that's a shame.

[river lynx]

that's what we originally wanted yeah

kind of in the dark about what we went with

[hallow jackal]

Clipboard-style pop up menu

YOU'RE KIDDING ME

I have been troubleshooting this reduced stamina thing for an hour

For the life of me, nothing I did would make the sprint bar go down

[bitter sand]

but then...?

[hallow jackal]

I HAD INFINITE SPRINT TURNED ON IN LETHALDEVTOOLS

[bitter sand]

lmao

[river lynx]

HAHAHAHAHAH

I feel you omfg

[hallow jackal]

Actually

How important is the menu for the beta? I'm going to entirely remake whatever I do for it anyways

I may just leave functionality as-is but make it look a tad nicer

[bitter sand]

Not important at all, UI is a super non issue for the time being

[river lynx]

mhm

so beta will just be the classes for free with some small visual distinctions and all the functionalities?

or do you still buy em?

[bitter sand]

Just for free

[hallow jackal]

I thought we decided against class purchasing

[bitter sand]

To enable testing

[hallow jackal]

It slightly defeats the purpose

Ooooh. For class differentiation, I could add a line to the nametag for now

[bitter sand]

Oughta do it

[hallow jackal]

So

I don't know anything about github. I'm a noob

But I feel that I should put this on github

[river lynx]

doesn't it embolden the purpose of classes? most of the time they're direct upgrades

[hallow jackal]

Even merely for issue reports

[river lynx]

there's almost no reason to play normal employee half the time w all the shit you can do w classes

of course there's downsides but yknow

[river lynx]

yeah defo

[hallow jackal]

The idea is that employee won't even be available

If the classes are locked behind a wall, you can't have a well-rounded team from the get-go

I'll def add it as a config option

[river lynx]

I don't think that's a good idea at all

[bitter sand]

Well, the scout is the analogue for the default employee right

[river lynx]

all rounders are fun, and not having more options is pretty much always a negative when it comes to stuff like this

[hallow jackal]

Researcher is actually closest atm

Scout's weight penalty prevents them from playing normally

[bitter sand]

Having the default employee as an all rounder is gonna be underwhelming if they can't get upgrades like the other classes

[river lynx]

well if we are going for perks in the future then you might as well 🤷

it's not like it's hard to come up with upgrades for the base employee, every other mod has done something like that

[hallow jackal]

The base employee has no weaknesses though

[river lynx]

it's not like it'd be that good compared to the others though

[hallow jackal]

He doesn't mesh with the others

[river lynx]

you have so much more to do with the others, it's just more interesting to have more options, pretty much always

[hallow jackal]

I'll make it configurable

[river lynx]

well his weakness is he has no special ability

[hallow jackal]

Because it won't be hard to have an "add default to the list" button

[hallow jackal]

I mean an interesting one that changes how you play

[bitter sand]

Oh ok I didn't think we were even considering that

[hallow jackal]

There's no specific situation default is worse in

[river lynx]

you don't have to change how you play employee to include it in a mod

[bitter sand]

Sure but it's like going to an ice cream shop and they don't have vanilla

Like it's not a crime to allow a default boring option

[river lynx]

I think it's a little big boring to exclude the base game's playstyle, what if someone in the group doesn't like any of the classes?

like of course that's not gonna happen much, but I think it's weird to exclude base employee for seemingly no reason

[river lynx]

but it just makes no sense

every ice cream store has vanilla, there's no reason not to include base employee

[hallow jackal]

That was Tilted agreeing with you lol

[river lynx]

it's literally just deleting an option

[river lynx]

oh LMAO misread it

i read it as "like it's not a crime to not allow a default boring option"

[restive parcel]

Aye, also for newer players who aren't as experienced as other party members being the plain ol' employee for a while might be preferable, so they can ease themself into the mood for whatever they want to specialise in before picking.

[hallow jackal]

I'll leave default in then

[bitter sand]

Correct.

[river lynx]

mhm

[bitter sand]

And then like

We can introduce... OPTIONAL DOWNSIDES for the default employee

So your perks can customize your shittiness

[river lynx]

LMAO

[bitter sand]

And then we can include a 2-slot for the default employee called Company Representative that allows your team to get more valuable loot but gives you some severe downside

[river lynx]

yeah I was gonna say that default employee's perks (if we do do any) should have downsides included, but be real good

[hallow jackal]

We'll see if employee gets perks. Idk how well it will fit. Time will tell

Perks are a long ways off anyways

[river lynx]

yeh

[bitter sand]

Defaulter perks would be very simple bits and bobs and maybe a couple things pulled from other classes

[river lynx]

my thoughts exactly

though that might be a bit weird cuz if you just play employee you could theoretically multi-class

[bitter sand]

Yeah but you could never specialize

And you would NOT have access to the core abilities of other classes

[hallow jackal]

woah. I already have a github account for some reason

[river lynx]

sleep walker jade made it (?

[hallow jackal]

It's not ready yet, but when it is, should I make the beta download on github or let Thunderstore have it?

I didn't even know how to mod when I started this

[river lynx]

put it on da t-store

[river lynx]

really?

you'd made choco quota, thought you had some prior experience

you've been COOKING dude

[hallow jackal]

Nope. ChocoQuota was the first thing

[river lynx]

goddamn

[hallow jackal]

I made ChocoQuota because I couldn't find something with all the same features and I wanted it for my modpack

And thus a modder was born

Thankfully, C# largely resembles Java

[river lynx]

a goat was born .. .

[jolly dune]

ChocoQuota is pretty good ngl

[hallow jackal]

Much obliged

[limber atlas]

Hum. What about the people that plays with Lethal Progression ?

[flint moss]

Both, is the github available rn or nah

[river lynx]

you can stack both mods

sounds like a cool way to make up for the lack of upgrades after you get the classes

[hallow jackal]

It's 100% incompatible with Lethal Progression

I haven't even looked at the code there, but I can't imagine anything I've done for changing stats will carry over

When there are perks, they'll provide a progression system

[hallow jackal]

Not yet. I've got a few finishing touches to add

[flint moss]

alright, make sure to not include anything illegal in the github :p

[hallow jackal]

I imagine the beta will be out before the end of the month for sure

[hallow jackal]

By illegal, you mean the game assemblies, yeah?

[flint moss]

includes dll's like Assembly_CSharp, any vanilla assets from the rip

yes

but thats not all, the assets too

[hallow jackal]

I have ripped 0 assets

Thanks for the reminder. I was definitely going to forget

[flint moss]

oh lol, how'd you get the game assemblies into your unity?

stubbed scripts? (if you know)

[hallow jackal]

I didn't

I couldn't figure it out so I gave up

[flint moss]

lmao

https://github.com/nomnomab/unity-lc-project-patcher?tab=readme-ov-file

for future reference

[hallow jackal]

Thank you 😂

Like I said: I'm a noob

[flint moss]

fair enuff

[hallow jackal]

How have I been developing without this??

[flint moss]

no idea

[hallow jackal]

I've just been playing on hard mode I guess

[river lynx]

bro was using weighted clothing the whole time

[hallow jackal]

Finishing beta version today

[river lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/turles-dragon-ball-dokkan-battle-phy-turles-real-one-gif-15322067523571571724

[hallow jackal]

After the beta, I'm going to move this project to the Unity editor

I think I'm going to go ahead and give Maintenance longer sprint time, but a 15% slower sprint

Let 'im cover the same distance but over more time

[river lynx]

yeaaa that sounds good

[hallow jackal]

Gonna give it one more playtest tonight and then prepare the files for upload

[split summit]

omg i love this so much

idk if this has been suggested before buuuut

i have an idea for some kinda info guy

we got the bases: the tank, the healer, the support, the helper

but we dont have a person specifically dedicated for one of the most crucial aspects of lc:

information

maybe a class that has an in-built signal transmitter or smth like that ig

[hallow jackal]

The current roadmap has just the four for the base version

The idea is that I'll make an API for adding new ones so that other developers (and myself) can make additional roles

[split summit]

ah k thats fair

[hallow jackal]

An information/comms class would be the first I'd want to make lol

New battery bar and current hacking system

[low kelp]

Hurts my ears

[hallow jackal]

My volume was way up in the recording. Oops

[low kelp]

Even quieter it is pretty bad

[river lynx]

looove that bat bar man

i sorta? fuck w the hack sound

nothing in lethal company has those techy beeps though which is a little dissonant, but they're mostly fine

you should probably lower their pitch though I agree, I have a headache rn and it didn't really help LMAO

[hallow jackal]

Maybe a more clankity clankity sound?

[hallow jackal]

Sure thing

[river lynx]

yeh yeh

like a clank or some button pushes

[split summit]

yeah itd fit teh aethetic better

but while we're on the topic of hacking, consider: hack old bird

[river lynx]

great minds think alike

[river lynx]

.

[split summit]

oh hell yea

also i feel like it'dbe rlly funny if tehre was just a small, small chance that upon hacking a turret, it goes into overcharge mode as if u just hit it with a shovel (where it does a 360 while continuosly firing)

[low kelp]

kitbashed some vanilla sounds

[hallow jackal]

I like that

[bitter sand]

make it a skillcheck

[low kelp]

@river lynx dunno if you saw this

[river lynx]

yeh i've heard it a few times!

sounds pretty cool

[hallow jackal]

I need to convert all my sounds to .ogg before full release

I haven't yet because of convenience

[jolly dune]

I could help you with that 👌

[flint moss]

i could too

my technology is called "google"

specifically, ".wav to ogg converter" google

[raven fog]

"free online .wav to .ogg converter no viruses"

[hallow jackal]

Usually, I just try to recreate the noises with my mouth into a microphone recording to .ogg

But CloudConvert works too

[low kelp]

Or, better option, You pass them to me and I pass it through audacity because cloudconvert sucks at making files smaller

[hallow jackal]

lol

I was just gonna use audacity

I need to adjust volume on all my clips so they'll match eachother

It'll probably be a simpler/faster process if I do them myself instead of finaggling with sending them

[hallow jackal]

You doubt the fidelity of my mouth noises?

[low kelp]

The fidelity of your mouth if anything

[split summit]

hear me out: brutes would be able to kick down locked doors

[raven fog]

brutes can rip of the top of a turret

brutes can stop the spike roof trap and bench press it

when a nutcracker kicks a brute, it goes flying

[river lynx]

@split summit

[split summit]

god DAMMI-

anyways i had a rlly goofy idea
researcher can heal, right?

what if researcher/maintenance could heal the CC without weed killer

also i had the idea for maintenance's powers being amplified if they were holding a zap gun, it'd give more use to it

[bitter sand]

Maintenance being able to repair the CC and researcher being able to fill the boost meter but neither can do both?

And then Scout is naturally able to drive faster (WHY WLULD YOU WANT THIS)

And Brute can push the CC twice as hard

Maybe Scout's CC passive is his jumps are better

[river lynx]

driver class ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️

I think with the CC being the biggest skill check in the game rn it'd be funnier if they didn't affect anything about it

[bitter sand]

I think driving perks specifically

Nothing base kit

[river lynx]

maaaybe

[blissful vine]

instead of driving faster why not accelerate faster? being able to go faster is suicide but accelerating faster would be both safer and stronger for utilizing the cruiser

also perhaps brute could have better steering control since hes more built than the other employees and as a result can turn a steering wheel with vigor

[bitter sand]

More acceleration is kinda what I was getting at yeh

[hallow jackal]

Cruiser repair for sure

[bitter sand]

Scout: Jump + Acceleration
Brute: Push
Analyst: Boost
Mechanic: Repair

the natural order of things

Brute can maybe also have "The cruiser takes reduced damage from crashing through trees and enemies"

[low kelp]

Scout makes cruiser more controllable?

[bitter sand]

I think that the cruiser is more controllable than people realize

If you're gonna buff "control" really what you want is friction so the damn thing doesn't slide everywhere

[blissful vine]

cruiser shouldn't take less dmg when brute is driving/riding in passenger, its a very unnatural buff that really makes no sense

however that does still have merit as i thought of this earlier but was too busy to create a proper idea for it: Brute (and Brute alone) could take less dmg from car crashes (i.e. when the window shatters) regardless of who is driving, and a result he could even potentially survive a typically fatal car crash

[bitter sand]

no no no no

SPECIFICALLY less damage from breaking or killing with the cruiser

if you crash into a rock it's still normal damage

you're enabled to use the cruiser aggressively basically

[blissful vine]

im a bit confused, are you saying the cruiser takes less damage from breaking trees/killing entities?

because the damage is usually 1 if you arent flying off the road at a suicidal pace

[bitter sand]

I don't know the specifics behind how the cruiser health bar works, if you want to explain it real fast so that I can better summarize my concept that would be appreciated

[blissful vine]

crusier has about 30 hp
tree/run over entity (safer speeds if you will) does 1 dmg
each time entity collides with cruiser 1 dmg
every collision that doesnt hurt you does about 1 dmg, dmg is higher if you go faster (if you take dmg thats a good indicator to slow down)

cruiser regenerates slowly over time as well (really slow but not terribly slow)

[bitter sand]

Okay then, the brute's driving perk would be a 50% chance to not sustain damage when crashing into trees or entities, this can only trigger if the tree breaks or the entity takes damage

[blissful vine]

i'd just do a flat division of dmg

30 DMG on crash? nah, 15
you died? nah, 50 DMG

[bitter sand]

Well

[blissful vine]

although that could be busted since you could theoretically drive at any speed you want for one crash if you dont blow up (without readjustment for killing brute/doing 200 dmg)

[bitter sand]

You said the lil impacts do 1 damage right?

Does the health allow decimals?

[blissful vine]

not that i know of

it regens 1 hp, it takes 1 hp

its possible to do 'decimals' of dmg but it requires code that supports waiting before doing dmg on its own

look at lethalhands

you can set the dmg to 0.01 per punch and it will not "hurt" the entity until you punch it 100 times

[raven fog]

When is the Driver class?

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-ryan-gosling-drive-flip-gif-5480671772097000575

Special ability : blasts nightcall 24/7

[blissful vine]

i find it funny to think that brute is the team's cruiser driver ngl

[raven fog]

he drives

[blissful vine]

also i think it'd be absolutely hilarious and oddly fitting if the Employee Classes had a parody of TF2's meet the team for each class to showcase what they can do
(another tf2 reference im sorry)

[bitter sand]

Brute and Scout in the Cruiser

[blissful vine]

PRECISELY what im talking about dude i had that visual the entire time

[hallow jackal]

I'ma try to get this beta going asap. Just a few finishing touches but I'm packing for college this week and things might get a bit crazy

DISCLAIMER: All sounds are placeholders. Aside from maybe the brute's kick (and the hack sound effect Jacu put together), they are not remotely final. I just needed something

[river lynx]

that's perfectly fine bud :]

good luck with college, you've done great

[flint moss]

Take ur time, much better to release on a schedule where u have a lot of time, a mod of this caliber will definitely present with many bugs and u don't wanna be in a position to be unable to fix etc

[raven fog]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-but-i-want-it-now-gif-26307521

[restive parcel]

@main yew

[main yew]

ty

[raven fog]

thats wicked

also thats wicked https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/QwertyRodrigo/Wicked/

and youre wicked

[flint moss]

are you advertising? banned

[raven fog]

nah

presenting facts

[flint moss]

kinda wicked ngl

[raven fog]

very wicked

[split summit]

quite wicked indeed

so wicked in fact, that you might have to be ultrakilled for that

[hallow jackal]

Something wicked going on here

[main yew]

[covert grail]

love this, love classes and roles with traits in games, makes it a bit funnier for me, as i can have a role/class/character that matches my playstyle

wish this goes somewhere, could be fun

[dim dragon]

We were close to a beta once the creator is free again

[covert grail]

has the "more than 4 player" thing been found a work around?

[fallow raptor]

I unno if this has ben suggested already but what if they all have 5 inv slot, but the 5th one is used by a special item unique to each class that they can't drop

Scout's could be a flare gun or somethin like that, Brute's would be his own kunckles, Researcher a scanner thingie and Engie a wrench or tool he uses on turrets and mines and whatnot

[low kelp]

something about "kunckles" is very funny to me

[river lynx]

that was my idea for maintenance's gimmick yeah

[split summit]

scout's gimmick could be that they don't have anything in their 5th slot

(aka one extra inv spot)

bc flare guns tbh sound kinda... useless

like they sound cool but like when are u gonna use a flaregun

i suggest some kinda better spraypaint alternative so you can mark where you're going

[raven fog]

Shoot a flaregun at a giant and burn their retinas

[split summit]

OH

i have an idea

what if reasercher had a heart monitor

so they'd know who's dead and who's alive

[river lynx]

that was the og idea im p sure

[split summit]

ah k

[river lynx]

but it's not in the mod currently

cuz jade went a diff direction

imo for the best cuz it would've made scout a little too good

[river lynx]

oo that sounds like a cool idea

among us type shit lmaoo

[raven fog]

among us referenced

[bitter sand]

you can stack classes

even with only 4 classes you and the boys can all pick Brute and get absolutely physical with it

[blissful vine]

tbf based on that image with scout's stats they'd instantly die to a bunch of things straight off the bat with only 50 hp, an extra inventory slot is only good if you can even get to use it

[split summit]

ye i was thinking that the heart monitor would show:

• how low on health the employees are
• whether they're having paranoia (that thing that happens to your screen when you see someone die/a giant sees you/etc.) indicated by the rapid heartbeat
• maybe how they died? (kinda like scanning a body to see how an employee died)
• whether or not they're alive (duh)

also I had an idea for Maintenance

EMPs :trol:

you throw one, it disables all nearby electronic appliances for around 20 seconds

including Old Birds, flashlights, walkies, turrets, landmines, spike traps, etc

[bitter sand]

tbh an EMP would just be a cool vanilla tool to buy

like a flashbang but for electronics

[split summit]

ye i was thinking about that too (nobody saw it in #1188298686560739389)

[hallow jackal]

I like researcher analyzing dead bodies

I've only got a small to-do list before the beta, but I for sure can't work on it for another week

[river lynx]

perfectly fine bud :]

[river lynx]

got kinda sad that the thread disappeared from my list to I'm dropping this here

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fire-flamethrower-burn-on-fire-gif-7684110515453159552

[heady plover]

This sounds like an amazing idea! You’ve got me on your side

[bitter sand]

Oh cool did you have something to contribute to the project or do you mean more in a moral support way? Both are fine

[flint moss]

you dont know tilted? about the holy war?

you have to pick a side otherwise you're an outcast

[heady plover]

Moral support

Idk how to code

[quaint mulch]

->

[hallow jackal]

Work has resumed on that beta

[river lynx]

fuuuck yeah

you should check if anything that changed between v56 and v61 messed w your stuff

[hallow jackal]

I shall

[river lynx]

🫡

go, my goat

[restive parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/scarab-beetle-flying-go-my-scarab-gif-1372646788661438174
go, my scarab

[raven fog]

Bug tamer

[hallow jackal]

Public beta is theoretically ready

I'll do a playtesting session as soon as I can and then it can go live

[river lynx]

hell yeah bro <3

[pulsar moth]

Let's gooo

[dark vale]

is it gonna be something you can choose?

or something thats given to you randomly?

i cant bother going thru 1000+ msgs

and seeing if thats the case

[river lynx]

yes, choose

[dark vale]

finally

now I can run away from the thumper as a scout

[sleek goblet]

i would always be maintentce for this one

[hallow jackal]

As soon as I wrangle together a few of my friends to test the build, it can go live

[hallow jackal]

Success!

No glaring issues

I might even get around to uploading this weekend

[bitter sand]

👀

[river lynx]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/767436355495002122/875948885686763530/image0.gif

yiupee!!

[bitter widget]

how do i get notified when this becomes a mod

[low kelp]

You check in later

[summer wedge]

I'd like to see this mod too :]

so I'll be here checking too

[raven fog]

You join the daily employee classes newsmail

And get updates weekly

[bitter widget]

where is that at if you dont mind

[raven fog]

Uhm... uhm

Ok you wont believe this

But i made it up

[bitter widget]

ight sweet

[dim dragon]

new people interacting with rodrigo is the arguably the best content on this server 🍿

[flint moss]

thanks, i made him myself

[river lynx]

so does that mean bongo's his dad?

[flint moss]

thanks, i married him myself

[jolly dune]

The biggest troll ever i freakin luv it

[dark vale]

rodrigo is a menace

to our society

[restive parcel]

Surfaced strikes again

[raven fog]

damn im learning my own lore

anyways according to lore it says im super cool and great at making mods

(ignore wicked)

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-car-silly-cat-sad-scary-gif-12889095585962936860

[summer wedge]

I like wicked :[

[raven fog]

its broken, probably

and im too lazy to fix it

[alpine acorn]

Chat am I the brute

[hallow jackal]

What do I use for the icon?

[nova wasp]

sigmas dancing

[river lynx]

you can always change the icon post upload, but I put this together in a minute while dead

[summer wedge]

I like it :]

[bitter sand]

Yeah nice

[hallow jackal]

Just uploaded

I do not know how to use markdown

It is hideous

I will fix the readme in the next release

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/DaJadeNinja/EmployeeClasses/

[jolly dune]

Lets

GOOOO

[hallow jackal]

I need to set up the repository so I can get organized bug reports

[jolly dune]

Mod-release thread time

[hallow jackal]

@bitter widget . Public beta is live. Consider yourself notified

[hallow jackal]

Lemme go do that rlq

[river lynx]

I can help ya out soon <3

[river lynx]

super fucking cool duuude

congrats jade!!!

[nova wasp]

Brute seems op not gonna lie

Also contacts

Contracts

Congrats

This is great!

[hallow jackal]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1279305325627048027

I need to properly credit people

[bitter widget]

lezzz go

[split summit]

LESGOOOO

[flint moss]

you guys should use the thread from now on https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1279305325627048027

[iron cloak]

bump

[split summit]

no need to bump actually, i reckon this thread shoudl be closed

seeing as it's an actual released mod now

[prime sandal]

Yo i played it w my friend and it looks good

[sleek goblet]

W ahh mod

[honest pilot]

is this still being worked on?

seems super cool

[river lynx]

it's out yeah!