LethalMatt Moons & Interiors - Outpost 31, Bozoros, Circus, PlayZone

[night quest]

The new update for it caused this

But yeah it was that

[late roost]

cool thanks

[quasi nest]

It just got hotfixed in v2.5.1 also, but I haven't tested it.

[late roost]

I'm surprised it's taking a while for any kind of Xenomorph enemy

[onyx trout]

#1208886415027343360 message
This is the closest we've got atm

[late roost]

LethalMatt Moons - Outpost 31 & Bozoros

[quasi nest]

Don't mind me, not up to anything...

[tired jacinth]

lol

[placid stag]

I remember this map had a very cool interior, what happened to it?

[night quest]

It's being worked on being updated still

[placid stag]

oh nice

[quasi nest]

Yeah, I've been a bit distracted by some pretty cool ideas for the map itself, but I do plan on bringing it back as soon as it's got everything working properly.

(Also doing rollercoaster collision )

[late roost]

Lethal Elements is cool

[unreal jackal]

imagine that changing the burger truck's sign to say "Steamed Hams" instead

[wanton seal]

Imagine occasionally replacing the burger truck with a driveable version

[vapid raven]

at this point... CRUISER SUITS? SKINS

[placid stag]

I am very surprised there isn't any skin mod for cruiser yet

[quasi nest]

There's the ExtendedVehicle from LLL but I'm not sure if anyone's done something with it yet (or if it's fully working). Would be pretty neat to have a reskinned Cruiser for Bozoros, haha.

[vapid raven]

the real "Clown Car"

[tranquil parcel]

pacoito creating unity hammerspace to make the clown car a viable method of transportation:

[quasi nest]

A non-Euclidean ship or Cruiser would be the next evolution of the wider/2-story ship...

[placid stag]

2 story cruiser, the top would be open like Open topped bus with seats and one big eject button to eject all the seats at the same time

[quasi nest]

||Microtransactions! ||

[buoyant sandal]

that's cool

[clear spindle]

Any update on the interior?

[quasi nest]

I'll get right back to it after the next map update, there's just been several ideas I've had that I keep thinking about...

Hopefully (if there's no hotfixes needed) it'll be out on the update after this one, but I haven't forgotten about it!

[visual obsidian]

Hey uh

LethalMatt

I know you're retired from making updates to Bozoros but I do wanna ask, whats the purpose of the Mysterious Shard?

[quasi nest]

It's a reference/easter egg for another project he was working on: #1224229436719890432 message

[visual obsidian]

Ooooooooh

[quasi nest]

Currently doesn't do anything though, I've just left it as is for now.

[visual obsidian]

Ah oki

thank you

[quasi nest]

(The rainbow lighting from it is used to light up the water around the water fountains, though!)

Hidden shard but still there...

[visual obsidian]

Yippee!

Pretty lights

[unreal jackal]

make shard a scrap. picking it up spawns 4 giants and 4 lizards around you in an octagonal pattern

[late roost]

Ahoy everyone I am amending my previous statement on mods, I was just getting real burnt out and needed to step away and basically take the pressure off doing anything LC related.

Coincidentally enough with the Halloween season my friends and I started playing Lethal again and damn did I miss it

Mods are still on the table for me but I won't be as active as I was when I was working on stuff and I am limiting myself to one project at a time.
Mentally I just need to separate Lethal and work in order to be happy and energized in both respective places.
Pacoito will still be maintaining stuff and I'm only going to work on things as I please at a pace I'm comfortable with.

I've been excited talking to them and we've both been discussing ideas of things for them to add to Bozoros / Outpost so I'm still giving a lot of input.

It's helpful working with someone rather than alone.

TL;DR I'm not gone from mods but don't expect anything 🤷🏼‍♂️

[bleak remnant]

I'm expecting heaven and earth

[unreal jackal]

one day, when i aint lazy, i may seek assistance in making a scrap mod. i want more gem and crystal scraps

[night quest]

@quasi nest is Bozoros gonna be updated soon btw?

[quasi nest]

Hopefully fairly soon™, I did tweak terrain mesh to look better so it'll probably be included in the next release, and I gotta do a stress test with like 100 Tulip Snakes to see what the NavMesh errors are about...

Two of the three main features I wanted to include are pretty much ready, though!

[placid stag]

very excited about those! btw what was the problem with the interior, why it was removed?

[quasi nest]

Oh, the original project files for Bozoros were [basically lost](#1198545579765141565 message), so I recreated the moon as close as I could using AssetRipper to extract stuff from the v1.0.1 AssetBundles + Unity Explorer (in-game) to copy over the object hierarchy and configuration, and I've been releasing updates using this new project. The interior is mostly ported over, but still needs a bit of work to actually be playable... Last time I loaded into it there were doorways that led to the void and it felt pretty laggy/unoptimized (though it could've just been something with enemy pathing).

[still fractal]

i hope the future updates go well

i genuinely love this moon

i remember when i played with my friends we kept going to this moon and vacuity because they were really fun

[placid stag]

Damn unfortunate, glad you managed to recover the assets. This moon is one my favorite, thanks

[quasi nest]

I loved it to the point of doing all this!

Not sure why driving on it feels so natural, the moon was not designed around the Cruiser, haha.

[still fractal]

i think its because the path is pretty clear, which is something most moons dont do, they usually have big hills and are very mountain-like

[quasi nest]

Yeah, flat-ish terrain with only map props and enemies as obstacles, and a lake to fly over if you're brave enough...

Also I enabled pumpkins spawning on Bozoros mostly for Halloween™️, but I'm thinking of keeping them... I've had a few pumpkin patch blockades that force detours and make it a bit interesting, haha.

[worn canopy]

I remember Kite was gonna have a bus you could drive around a moon but that you wouldn't be able to take back home

[late roost]

Whoa I found something weird

https://youtu.be/yk42RZQylHQ?si=T70ZuaqoncjKeKHk

Abandoned lounge at Epcot in Disney World that is circus themed

[quasi nest]

First few seconds made me do a double take... 💀

Brain immediately thought: "Oh, jump down and check the lockers for loot!"

[late roost]

I know right?!

[tranquil parcel]

i just played Backrooms Escape Together a few days ago so him going into the corridor at 0:31 gave me flashbacks to the powerstation

[late roost]

I love liminal spaces it's just such a neat concept and I like that it has turned into an aesthetic that artists are pulling from

LC Office my beloved

[valid vigil]

having streamer mode disabled doesn't seem to play the in your heart song, idk if thats intentional

[quasi nest]

Yeah, audio-related config settings currently don't actually apply (script reference became missing after I re-patched the project and I hadn't noticed until around a week ago), it'll be fixed in the next update though!

Default settings aren't particularly loud, at least...

[valid vigil]

ah alright, i was hoping it wasnt intentional, i like that song c: thanks!

[late roost]

I'm making an interior

LethalMatt Moons & Interiors - Outpost 31 & Bozoros

I've been at this for a few weeks now, whole thing has been planned out, currently chugging away at the asset list

Pacoito is going to help hook it up and make some of the ideas I have for it possible

Thought about keeping it secret and just dropping it without a word but I'm too excited to keep a secret

[late roost]

@covert geode can I chat with you?

[covert geode]

whats up

[late roost]

I want to run something by you regarding the new interior I'm working on

It would involve sharing details about it that I'm not ready to reveal yet here

[covert geode]

oh dude thats dope!

[late roost]

We've been cooking on the next Bozoros update

[still fractal]

really excited to see it

[valid vigil]

cant wait

[still fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/jalen-hurts-jalen-hurts-meek-mill-i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-gif-13709870523385828441

[drifting pebble]

does outpost 31 still get updated?

i wanna use it with infected company

[still fractal]

from what i know

its planned to be updated but the main focus rn is bozoros

[drifting pebble]

ok thx

[late roost]

Bozoros and a new interior we're working on

[still fractal]

peak moon becomes peaker

[late roost]

Outpost will be on the backburner until after this next Bozoros update

The new interior thematically will fit with Bozoros but unlike the Circus one isn't meant for just Bozoros

[still fractal]

ngl bozoros' icon reminds me of littlebigplanet

[late roost]

Personally I'm really excited about it. Most of the tiles have been grayboxed and are being plugged into the generation, so it's coming along

[still fractal]

great

[late roost]

This is the highest honor anyone has bestowed

[still fractal]

i really love the icon because of the familiarity

i remember when i first saw the old interior

it kinda looked like a mix of the facility interior and a circus

[late roost]

Circus is still coming back, there won't be any new tiles or major visual changes to it.

[still fractal]

oh there are 2 interiors now?

[late roost]

Yeah the new one isn't circus, it's an actual new new interior

Once I get the art to a passable place I'll be willing to show off some screenshots

[still fractal]

if you will

hide them with spoilers

i kinda wanna explore the interior myself

[late roost]

I say for now, I can't recommend Toy Store and Grand Armory enough, Wesley's got some great stuff. This next Bozoros update should pair quite nicely with Toy Store too

[still fractal]

oh yea wesleys interiors are nice

[late roost]

I LOVE the fact that Grand Armory gets changed to have ball pits on Bozoros

[still fractal]

yea honestly i like grand armory more than toy store

[late roost]

Of course the moment my friends and I discovered that we were daring each other to jump into the ball pit

[bleak remnant]

I read that as "I cant recommend toy story and grand armory" and was thinking "damn I'm not the biggest fan of em either but that's harsh"

[late roost]

I am always the harshest Wesley critic

[still fractal]

the lampposts have gone bioluminescent

[late roost]

whoa!

I have never seen this before but I suspect it's some weird conflict with one of your graphics mods you are using

I have heard things like Outpost or Bozoros breaking with mods like LC Ultrawide or Lethal HD

[late roost]

does this issue persist when reloading the map or game

[strange beacon]

@late roost hey so i assume you got rid of the config for the circus interior because you were aware of it being buggy and not following spawn weight rules
well, i just found out this is a setting in LLL's config, and i was wondering if this was why the spawn weight edits were not working
or maybe im completely wrong and it was just broken in of itself

[quasi nest]

Oh the Circus interior is currently not included with the mod, still working on updating it but we've been a bit sidetracked with other Cool™ stuff.

[strange beacon]

oh i see

well i was having that issue

and i think this setting is why lmao

[still fractal]

its not a problem with bozoros

it was another mod

aggressivematerialfix

[wooden canopy]

Oh crap

Can u send ur ReShade config pretty please

[still fractal]

#1289403092307279907 message

[wooden canopy]

Thank u

[quasi nest]

Surprised that's the only thing it breaks actually, not sure why it's only the lampposts...

Thonk

[wooden canopy]

Is vain shroud spawning disabled here

Wrong thread?

lol

[bleak remnant]

yes

wrong thread

whoopsie

[wooden canopy]

Sharing the description I made for 'ol Bozo

SECTOR: Fairground

POPULATION: Inhabited

CLIMATE: 80°F Humid, breathable air. Flat terrain containing a controlled, stable ecosystem.

FAUNA: High number of dangerous fauna.

[quasi nest]

Not sure... That checkbox is ticked but there might be something else I have to do to add support for them. Haven't done anything related to Vain Shrouds yet since they're not really a vanilla thing at the moment.

Actually I'm dummy, mold spread iterations being 0 probably has something to do with it lol

[wooden canopy]

I'm usin' YesFox, so I was just wondering
Also, any plans on compatibility /w AggressiveMaterialFix?

[wooden canopy]

Buh

[strange beacon]

oh dang solar flare looks cool here

[quasi nest]

Every vanilla map has them at 0 so I wonder if YesFox overrides it.

[wooden canopy]

True!

[wooden canopy]

It does, yea

Idk if it overrides custom moons tho

[quasi nest]

Also I don't really know how "compatibility" with AggressiveMaterialFix could be done since it just overrides shaders... It also breaks visuals for a lot of other moons, so I'm not sure if it's actually recommended to use it.

[wooden canopy]

I just have it because I don't like things without LC's shaders, because they're not only immersion breaking, but ugly.

I'll turn it off in the meantime to see if it actually makes any difference

[wooden canopy]

Is there a screenshot of the goofy puffer skin?

[wooden canopy]

OMG THAT'S SO CUTE

I'M SETTING IT IMMEDIATELY

[quasi nest]

They've got customizable names too (in the config)

[wooden canopy]

Oh shit fr?

[strange beacon]

yes

i forgot to tell you

you can change the random names of clown skins

[wooden canopy]

Could this in the future apply to all entities, since there are some ExtraEnemyVariety skins that fit Bozoros

[quasi nest]

It assigns a random name to just any Spore Lizard or Giant that spawns specifically on Bozoros, so technically any skin for those enemies should work.

[wooden canopy]

I don't mean the rest of the skins, I mean entities outside of them

E.g. jesters

[strange beacon]

i added two custom names to both skins :P

theyre out of context jokes

[quasi nest]

Oh I could add names for some of the other enemies too, currently don't have any specific plans for new skins but Jesters and Barbers are easy picks

[strange beacon]

nutcracker skin would also work

probably butler too

[wooden canopy]

I just meant in general, not exclusively entities /w Bozoros skins

[quasi nest]

I could have a list of names for any non-specific enemy that spawns, but the names probably won't really match who the intended creature is

[wooden canopy]

Soundscape issue /w the ship's deck that's been bugging me, not sure if it's intended

Unrelated request, but a config option to disable Bozoros' custom planet model and scan nodes would be nice since they're immersion breaking, but that's just a small nitpick of probably only mine and not rlly something you need to acknowledge

[quasi nest]

Ah the reverb thing will be fixed in the next release, the AudioReverbTrigger outside the ship was set to the wrong preset.

[wooden canopy]

W

[quasi nest]

Not sure how feasible it is to swap that model at runtime, actually... but the scan node stuff can definitely be done, I was already thinking of having a setting for renaming the ship's node (would be more fitting for the Cruiser anyway, haha)

[wooden canopy]

Swagilicious

Aside from that, peak moon

It's on the same level of Ooblterra, aka S tier

[quasi nest]

||There's some fun stuff coming, too... 👀||

[wooden canopy]

Ain't got that Fun tag for nothin'

[vapid raven]

conveniently placed banana peels

[quasi nest]

Mostly this I posted a while ago, took a bit to polish it and it might still be a bit jank , but it's not the larger thing Matt mentioned was being cooked, thinking of just releasing this as a smaller update since it also includes a bunch of fixes

[weary flare]

PUFFER... :D

[quasi nest]

Actually I just realized you might not enjoy a very specific feature of the next Bozoros update... an ethically dubious solution to a problem caused by Tulip Snakes

[weary flare]

no..

[quasi nest]

||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1200901735129022575/1305020747714134096/2024-11-09_22-03-32.mp4?ex=6742a648&is=674154c8&hm=a2b82076216922e2f4f4190f27ee5e2975de11c012e9bf6df7f3c20bcbe3c8bd&||

[weary flare]

NOOOO

[quasi nest]

I had to do it, they were throwing errors after jumping in there!

[valid vigil]

LOL i love that

[valid vigil]

[weary flare]

:TulipSad:

[wooden canopy]

Pop goes... the tulip snake?!

[weary flare]

NOO

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExaWJjZTYzczM4a29vN2N0YXNveDVmc20wMWMzcjU1anV2cG9wOWpreiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/kXlltVOqV4z2es6qkk/giphy-downsized-large.gif

i will obtain custom emoji perms for these channels...someday

so for now tulipsnake gif..

[valid vigil]

[wooden canopy]

||Is the Announcer in one of Bozoros' interior ambients threatening us that we'll be the ones stuck with the rest of the freaks in weirdos on Bozoros, or is it left up to interpretation?||

[late roost]

That's not the announcer that's Cesare from BigTop Burger lol

[wooden canopy]

Guh-

Does it have any lore significance, or is it just an easter egg

Can't be coincidental that's it's plays on a literal circus moon, y'know, the industry historically known for the internal mistreatment of animals and employees

[late roost]

The moon was partially inspired by BigTop Burger

And it's a funny line that sounded threatening enough that with some reverb on the audio it works for the interior

[wooden canopy]

It worked enough to creep me out when I first heard it...

and also die to a masked that snuck up on me because I was too busy listening in on that ambient

[late roost]

man I haven't been up all night working on Bozoros since...

since I made Bozoros

[wooden canopy]

1 month sober from Bozoros, you can do this 🙏

[late roost]

more like 6 months I really put Lethal stuff aside for a while

[wooden canopy]

Oh? The other guy's been working on it?

[late roost]

Nah no one touched it for a while, just lucky enough that the moon didn't completely break from all the updates

[strange beacon]

i kinda realized that shortly after my comment on the interior btw

my apologies

[late roost]

I wish I had imperium when testing out the fireworks way back when

[wooden canopy]

It updated a month ago though?

[late roost]

I had to sit there and wait until 10pm to see if something broke

Yeah Paco revived the project basically

[wooden canopy]

KidnapperProotofJoy

Praise Paco

Love this moon

[late roost]

Same

[wooden canopy]

and also you ofc, the framework you did is amazing lol

[late roost]

If you're worried about immersion breaking, I've got some bad news about what I've been cooking

[wooden canopy]

I meant moreso the basic framework of what LC set, and a random bug

Not like anything related to Bozoros itself

[strange beacon]

oh yeah i wanted to ask about the firework music

[wooden canopy]

THOUGH

[strange beacon]

did you guys really get copyright striked for the og

[wooden canopy]

eclipsed Bozoros would be creepier if there were no music coming from the entrances

or if there were, it'd be distorted

but again, just a nitpick that probably only I have lol

[late roost]

Nope, but streamers and people making videos probably were

The option will still be there to switch streamer mode off

[strange beacon]

i miss the old music :(

[late roost]

I just made something so stupid that it has looped completely back around to being the best thing I've ever made

[wooden canopy]

Sounds like something Zeekerss would do

Ngl this moons feels like if Zeekerss drizzled a little bit of Upturned into Lethal Company, I love it

[late roost]

Not gonna say what it is but I hope people will see it and look more into it

[wooden canopy]

Fuggin' love this moon

[nocturne charm]

So cool

[quasi nest]

Bozoros v2.1.0 released!

[quasi nest]

To clarify, it's not the larger update mentioned here, but there's a bunch of fixes and some fun stuff added!

[wooden canopy]

Whus the changelog?

[quasi nest]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/LethalMatt/Bozoros/changelog

It's a bit long

[quasi nest]

||Let me know if there's any issues with the balloons, they haven't really been extensively tested in multiplayer! ||

[wooden canopy]

👍

[buoyant sandal]

They explode in multiplayer

(lie)

[quasi nest]

||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/284829004022677505/1308283087829995611/2024-11-18_12-07-00.mp4?ex=67434fd2&is=6741fe52&hm=2832c8c0cba102be326629e60f1dc833d4ae02c1573b98891144b9fc6adcde34&||

[quasi nest]

OH wait

Uploaded an older .dll...

It'll be slightly longer for the update, sorry

[buoyant sandal]

LMAO

[quasi nest]

Uploaded v2.1.1, will take a bit for it to show up though...

[late roost]

what clock mod is that

[wooden canopy]

LCBetterClock

I configged it though

I didn't even finish landing, and he's already scared 😭

[strange beacon]

just to say
this moon without post processing when its stormy looks fantastic

[quasi nest]

That's with volumetric clouds disabled too, so it should also run better!

[worn canopy]

gogo in the background

[quasi nest]

It can intercept balloons!

Works really well with them lol

[worn canopy]

oh that's really cool!!

[quasi nest]

It's more of balloon just pops when an enemy touches it

But it does work with Ogopogo

[strange beacon]

no, i dont use HD lethal

i use a separate mod cause HD is hard on GPUs

[quasi nest]

Oh no I meant on the moon itself

Stormy sky volume profile usually just has volumetric clouds

[strange beacon]

ah

[visual obsidian]

wait

did this add

the

No interior

[quasi nest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/381520882608373761/1085142421047869482/4x-1.gif

[wooden canopy]

Crusty-ass marshmallow wtf

[quasi nest]

Still working on it but I've been distracted by a few things...

[visual obsidian]

I have a question

can I ask you in dms

[quasi nest]

Oh, sure?

I think I have message requests enabled but I'll double check

Yeah you should be able to just DM

[weary flare]

oh no.

[wooden canopy]

UPDATE: I killed 'em both

[wooden canopy]

LOL I love this

[quasi nest]

look inside

[valid vigil]

[wooden canopy]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3371102698

Did a silly

[weary flare]

giant is probably mad..

[wooden canopy]

Istg, forest keepers have some beef against me today

[quasi nest]

Peace treaty

[wooden canopy]

LOL

Amazing

[quasi nest]

(Different mod but applies here lol)

[wooden canopy]

Ik

[quasi nest]

Released v2.1.2 with some very small hotfixes!

[wooden canopy]

Oh yeah

I thought I should inform y'all that the dropship's music not only plays as it lands, but its thruster particles aren't there either

The thruster's light is there though

[quasi nest]

Oh wait the music doesn't play?

I re-added the thruster lights in the latest patch

[wooden canopy]

It does play

The problem is that it plays while it's landing

Not when it's landed

In vanilla, the dropship only plays its music when it's landed, never when entering/leaving

[strange beacon]

talking about audio

shouldnt in your heart not be credited on the thunderstore description anymore since it doesnt play on the moon in recent versions

[quasi nest]

It's still there with StreamerFriendly turned off though! I had the setting inverted in v2.1.1 but it's fixed now

[strange beacon]

oh shit

hell yeah

[quasi nest]

I think it's just a stylistic choice though, like hearing the ice cream truck approaching haha

[wooden canopy]

Config option

It's ultimately bug /w LLL I think?

Many custom moons have it

Ooblterra/Seichi are the only ones to my knowledge that have fixed it

[quasi nest]

I can make it a config option, I just meant specifically for Bozoros it might've been to have it be like an incoming ice cream truck, but I'd have to ask Matt

[wooden canopy]

Read Matt as Mutt...

😭

[weary flare]

lol

[strange beacon]

its not stylistic its an actual bug a lot of modded moons experience

found it, i told s1ckboy why that happens

its because the gameobject is enabled while its landing

[quasi nest]

It's activated in the animation, but yeah it's just toggling that to fix it

[strange beacon]

sorry me and blanca have been flooding a bit recently btw
i should not have taken them to bozoros.. the fun got to them too much..

[quasi nest]

It's all right, I'm just glad there haven't been any major issues with the new stuff, haha

[wooden canopy]

OHH

THAT'S WHY THE HIVES CAME UP AS POPCORN ON SEICHI

😭

[strange beacon]

lol what does it change all hive scannodes

[quasi nest]

Yeah... I forgot to add the check for whether or not the ship is currently landed on Bozoros

[strange beacon]

or was it patched

ok

[quasi nest]

Patched

[wooden canopy]

Ye it did

but now it's fixed

[late roost]

https://tenor.com/view/indiana-jones-indiana-jones-and-the-kingdom-of-the-crystal-skull-gif-13787028

[hazy dock]

@quasi nest What tags does Bozoros have?

[quasi nest]

Fun, Funny, Circus, Clown, Lake, and Paid

(In that order)

[hazy dock]

Alright, I'll use the Fun tag cuz that's what Grand Armory uses I wasn't here

[late roost]

👀

[late roost]

Bozoros passed 500k downloads
Thank you everyone

[drifting pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/as-you-should-worthikids-bigtop-burger-bigtop-burger-gif-26818418

[visual obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-lets-goo-lest-gooooooooooooooooo-gif-19416648

[late roost]

I wish lethal man could natively swim, would open up for some unique map making

[strange beacon]

the death of advanced company...

[late roost]

Keyword natively

If it was ever going to work properly for all maps and maps going forward Zeekers would have to do it

Even if someone made a mod not everyone is going to use it if a map is built around it and uses a dependency

[still fractal]

powered by advanced company...

[vapid raven]

is Lethal Man stronger than Florida Man

[neat mirage]

closest thing rn is the Oxygen mod

not swimming but much more oxygen underwater

but you loose it on land as well

and gotta refill at the ship

[nocturne charm]

One thing I think that would be a massive improvement to the game and fit in really naturally is having some objects have a buoyancy system where they raise and lower with water they are inside of

could open up mechanics like placable floatation pads or built in level design where water floats up rocks and shit to allow for different paths

[late roost]

First thing I thought as I was reading that was Wet Dry World haha

[nocturne charm]

😄

[late roost]

@severe dawn would be all over that

[nocturne charm]

Some of the stuff I'm cooking outside of LC rn would probably be your vibe 😛

[late roost]

me vibe?

[visual obsidian]

Oooooo

Also Hello LethalMatt!

https://tenor.com/view/forest-gump-wave-hi-hello-howdy-gif-22164679

[late roost]

Can't see it but my eyebrow raised slightly

Hello

[visual obsidian]

Hows it been?

[late roost]

Honestly good, Bozoros update on the way that I have done a lot of stuff for

Working on some of it rn actually

[visual obsidian]

Wait really?

:O

I thought you gave the project to pacoito

[quasi nest]

look inside

[visual obsidian]

like entire responsibility over it

[visual obsidian]

Yay!! speaking of which

Haaaaiii!!

[late roost]

I did, and Paco brought it back to life thus bringing me out of my funk I was in

[visual obsidian]

OOOO YAY!!

thats awesome!!

Im very happy you're back in your groove!

[late roost]

I assumed at first Paco would just like do some additional things outside of the Bozoros project itself to get it updated with the new game versions, what I didn't know is that Paco would do the dirty work of actually getting in the weeds and fully rebuilding Bozoros from the ground up

After he did that we worked on getting the project space setup in such a way that we can both push updates to the git without breaking things, the GUIDs for the assetripper stuff being a big hurdle

[nocturne charm]

assetripper stuff is so cursed man

[visual obsidian]

Thats fantastic! But always remember incase you do feel like you're groove is slipping to always take breaks, drink plenty of water and rest, especially rest, maybe even do something fun as a step back from working :D

when I want a break from working on stuff I like to play my Ultra Modded Lethal Modpack or test another modpack for something else

cuz you're not just a moon/interior maker, you're a human being

I know a lot of people especially people in the younger audience range sees those who make mods or anything else as just who they are popular for

so just don't let those kinds of people get you down

you are human

and you're doing amazing LethalMatt!

Absolutely Amazing!

[late roost]

Thanks, people in this community have been generally pretty pleasant so like no worries there. It's cool that something I worked on (as like a little side thing that I'm in total control of) has reached so many people, its really neat

[visual obsidian]

And I can also say

that Bozoros is literally my favorite moon/interior

so like

in my ultra modded modpack when playing it I will absolutely be going to Bozoros when I get that hundred credits🤑

I absolutely love Bozoros

[quasi nest]

300 due to inflation!

(+ Balloon expenses)

[visual obsidian]

Thats crazy

I MADE THAT JOKE ONCE

in one of my videos

about an action figure I found at the Bikini Bottom moon

[late roost]

What kind of BOZO is responsible for this nonsense inflation? The only inflating should be the balloons that are lost during the storms

and that's strictly it

[visual obsidian]

Now imagine Meteor shower on Bozoros

[quasi nest]

Clown economists have been trying to figure that out for years

[late roost]

I was playing with my friends the other day and it happened, with an Ogopogo spawned, Slenderman haunting, and the doors for the ship malfunctioned

[visual obsidian]

D a m n

Wait

The fucks an Ogopogo!!??

[quasi nest]

Lake inhabitant

[visual obsidian]

oh?

OH WAIT

THE LEOPLURADON

THING

BIODIVERSITY

[quasi nest]

Ye

[visual obsidian]

YOOOO

WAIT ITS COMPATIBLE WITH BOZOS' LAKE!!??

THATS WICKED COOL

[quasi nest]

It can intercept balloons 💀

Adds suspense to the balloon rides lol

[visual obsidian]

Gehehehe

[wooden canopy]

They're too slow

I don't think it's possible considering how fast the balloons go

Ogopogos take some time to emerging and trying to snatch you

[quasi nest]

It's more of if you get unlucky with where it comes out of the lake from

Some of the balloon paths specifically linger a bit on top of the lake for that lol

[wooden canopy]

They're usually near main so I guess not that big of a problem

[late roost]

The other neat thing about this project is the feedback loop I have with it and the game I'm working on, I learn some things at work that I can use for Bozoros and vice versa

[quasi nest]

Pretty funny I accidentally added compatibility for it by shrinking the water plane (which I don't really have a specific reason why, I think I was wondering why it was larger than it needed to be)

[visual obsidian]

Aaaaah

[quasi nest]

Did not know that would fix Ogopogo specifically, so when I just spawned it in one time due to curiosity I was pleasantly surprised that it just worked™

[visual obsidian]

Thats awesome!

[wooden canopy]

Peak, hope all goes well

[late roost]

I'd say it's going pretty well

[wooden canopy]

NOOOO OGOPOGO

YOU KILT HIM

[late roost]

he's just a bit chilly

[strange beacon]

wtf

[quasi nest]

Not quite actually... figuring that out still LOL

[wooden canopy]

😭 He is FREEZING TO DEATH

If you're cold, they're cold

LET THEM IN

[late roost]

Is there any explicable reason why sometimes footstep sounds just don't work

I've noticed this sometimes at other moons

[strange beacon]

lethal company has a low max sound limit in unity

at least for a game as big as it

[quasi nest]

Oh you know what, the speaker change might've done that LOL

[strange beacon]

its a vanilla game issue

[quasi nest]

I know it happens pretty often during Meteor Showers

[strange beacon]

lcmaxsoundsfix will fix it

[late roost]

I discarded all those changes tho

[quasi nest]

Oh, not sure then

Thonk

Could try with https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Hardy/LCMaxSoundsFix though

[late roost]

Well there are the other things I added that make noise, but they aren't active that early in the day

Surprise! Next update codenamed Snozoros

[strange beacon]

seichi reference...

[visual obsidian]

SNOWY BOZOS???

[visual obsidian]

OOOOOOOH

SNOZOROS

[quasi nest]

Yeah pretty much LOL

[visual obsidian]

I LOVE IIIIIIIITTTTT

AAAAAHHHH

[late roost]

Some surprises that won't be revealed until the update itself but we're working on it

Paco if you have the other thing you wanted to show off

[rich plinth]

Dw we are also going Snowichi only

[quasi nest]

Don't have it quite ready yet, figured out why something wasn't working!

[late roost]

got it

[severe dawn]

So cool, I can't wait to play this

These have to be my favorite custom moons, they're so good

[valid vigil]

here's the logs if they are of any use

[quasi nest]

Oh...

Thonk

I assumed they would despawn with the scene unloading but I need to do it manually it seems

[valid vigil]

yee, probably

[quasi nest]

I cannot guarantee the safety of anyone who takes a balloon ride on a different moon

[valid vigil]

lol, i wanted to try it but i couldnt get to it since it was over a ravine

[strange beacon]

finally, a way to make adamance good without movement tricks

[weary flare]

:)

[late roost]

https://tenor.com/view/it-penny-wise-scary-cclown-comedy-spoof-gif-9759092

[valid vigil]

[late roost]

If anyone is ever going to attempt a Pennywise mod I've plotted out the mechanics of him before in my head

[visual obsidian]

Wh-

[late roost]

Having a monster that works exclusively by pulling players into vents is just a horrifying concept

Having a proximity to vent that you need to flee before you get grabbed 💀

[quasi nest]

That exists actually

I forget which mod but there's a hand that comes out of vents lol

[late roost]

https://tenor.com/view/pennywise-it-gif-9949037

[valid vigil]

the watcher from diversity

[visual obsidian]

OH WHAT MOD IS THAT

I kinda want that

mainly for like

Viewer stream events

[valid vigil]

i just said.. lol

its diversity

[visual obsidian]

Oh-

Wait its really Diversity?

damn

[strange beacon]

if IT were to be a monster they should be able to turn into every monster in lethal at random points

so you have to constantly change your tactics

i know that would be absolutely hellish to code

but that is the way IT should be as a lethal company monster

[quasi nest]

Whoops, forgot about this

(That 4 second video is almost as large as the AssetBundle for the interior currently 👀)

[late roost]

hoo hoo ha ha

a compressed bundle is a happy bundle

[night quest]

It's finally returning? 😄

[quasi nest]

It's mostly done, couple things that still need adjusting/tweaking though I'm currently working on some Snozoros stuff

[night quest]

Did you also redo the normal version so it can finally get TerraMeshed? I need that beautiful green grass

lol

[quasi nest]

Beautiful white snow

Haven't done TerraMeshing since last time I was messing with it, but ideally Snozoros will release meshed for LethalElements' snowy weather

[quasi nest]

This is what it looked like after tweaking it a bit, grass is alright but the road is pretty rough...

[late roost]

it ended up looking crunchy af and lost a lot of the fidelity I intentionally kept high res

[strange beacon]

hoping that snozoros wont cause the same issues on seichi

for context, a couple of buttery stancakes' mods mess with the dropship and main entrance window lighting from outside when youre inside

specifically snowyholidaydropship and chameleon, their effects are based on if a moon has the snowy footprints boolean enabled

snowichi causes both to always consider seichi as snowy

even if snowichi isnt active

[late roost]

Snozoros and all of its glory will revert back to normal when the holidays conclude

Including snow footprints going away

[strange beacon]

ah really? i would kinda like it permanent

but ok, not my choice

[late roost]

Nope, limited time, snooze you loose

Enjoy while supplies last

[strange beacon]

you napple, you get slappled

[quasi nest]

Some aspects could definitely stay once there's snowy weather though, like the frozen lake!

[late roost]

That would be fine I think, as I can't control whether Bozoros is affected by an outside weather mod or not

So might as well lean into compatibility there

But if it were up to me it would be strictly seasonal because I'm actually a grinch

https://tenor.com/view/grinch-smile-grin-devious-evil-scheming-gif-24073832

[strange beacon]

cant wait for blueberry popsicle day version of bozoros

[late roost]

Be weary if you have any clowns aboard your crew who will spend all your money on balloons

[strange beacon]

this is a real minor holiday btw, september 2nd

[late roost]

so is National Sandwich Day but I ain't adding a Subway to Bozoros

worst working day of my life back when I was a sandwich artist

[strange beacon]

lmfao

[late roost]

and I worked at a movie theater when Infinity War came out on opening weekend

Not nearly as rough

[still fractal]

opposite day event bozoros update real

[placid stag]

LETS GOOO

[nocturne charm]

love this

[late roost]

I accidentally discovered Balatro for myself 🥲

So many clowns in my poker roguelike

[nocturne charm]

one of us

[still wharf]

another victim of cards 😔

[late roost]

The festivities are over and the apartment is clean

Now I have a full weekend for Lethal stuff

Maybe I'll be at a point where I can reveal the interior I'm working on

[valid vigil]

[night quest]

||Fnaf Security breach is that you inside of my Lethal Company!!!???||

[late roost]

Everyone keeps bringing that one up and I've never played it 🤷‍♂️

[night quest]

XD

[unreal jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/moondrop-moon-fnaf9-security-breach-five-nights-at-freddys-gif-24513825

[tranquil parcel]

Backrooms Escape Together reference!!??!??!?!?!

[late roost]

why does everything have to be a reference with you guys lol

[tranquil parcel]

idk man i just played through backrooms a few days ago

that accursed final level is still fresh in my mind

[late roost]

||is the final level a playground?||

[tranquil parcel]

||part of it is a playground like in those pictures, but most of it is a labyrinth that occasionally turns all the lights off. inside the labyrinth you have to find coins to open doors, and try to find the marked door to clip through to the next part. when the lights turn off this big dude that's normally passive gets super aggressive and chases you so you have to use the coins to open doors and hide from him||

||the labyrinth part is procedurally generated so its either way too easy or its incredibly big and takes a long time to finish||

[drifting pebble]

would be cool to see a mirror room

https://tenor.com/view/circus-charlie-chaplin-the-circus-silent-films-house-of-mirrors-gif-5269836

or mirrors that distort your reflection

[tired jacinth]

Might cause performance issues

[drifting pebble]

oh yeah thats true

[visual obsidian]

WAAAAIT WHAT-

[still fractal]

is this intentional? (bees perfectly inside the popcorn machine)

[tired jacinth]

I think the popcorn is honey flavored

[strange beacon]

they made the popcorn machines ai node spots for hives to stay in them, it is intentional

[still fractal]

clever

anyways im really excited for the new interiors update

[unreal jackal]

mmm, B Corn

[quasi nest]

Gotta do a routine check of all popcorn stands, that's the only place they can show up at now lol

[still fractal]

hows progress on the update going

[late roost]

progressing

https://tenor.com/view/windows-progress-bar-loading-not-loading-waiting-gif-5424985

[graceful coral]

the progress is progressing!

[late roost]

we've a couple things to finish up

[placid stag]

exciteed

[still fractal]

great moon becomes greater 🔥

[hazy dock]

@late roost I'm gonna dm you about something if that's okay

Or actually if you can dm me, you have your DMs privated

[valid vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/holy-moly-gif-2379897567703251318

[quasi nest]

But also

👀

[placid stag]

when?

[late roost]

LethalMatt Moons & Interiors - Outpost 31, Bozoros, [WIP] PlayZone

Taking my time with it, want to get it right

[placid stag]

hyped

[rich plinth]

[late roost]

I'm cool with sharing my reference board though

Actually not

Some lucky ducks probably saw that

🦆

I can say that main references for the interior are places I remember going to as a child, core memories of certain playgrounds and fun centers with some fun things to find within

Of course with a Lethal Company spooky twist

In the meantime we got some cool stuff for Bozoros

One thing for me to say I'm back and making stuff for LC but another to actually like show it

And Paco and I have been cooking up an awesome update

I myself am looking forward to playing it

[quasi nest]

Snozoros is currently "updating the mod page" ready

(+ Circus Facility)

[late roost]

https://tenor.com/view/home-gif-19708132

[still fractal]

wait snozoros is done?

[quasi nest]

Maybe

[still fractal]

idk what that means but im excited

[quasi nest]

It is done, planning on uploading it as soon as I'm done adding pictures and stuff to the mod page

[still fractal]

YAY

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-funny-sal-gif-10295577

[quasi nest]

Bozoros v2.2.0 released!

Snozoros + Circus Facility!

[placid stag]

LETS GOO

my favourite interior

[strange beacon]

oh boy

time to hope the interiors spawn weights work properly this time

[quasi nest]

It should just be configurable via LLL

[strange beacon]

i believe it was my fault but ill see

[quasi nest]

Also if using WeatherTweaks, both progressive and combined weathers should work (for the most part, I'm not sure what's going on with when you initially land), but there's some extreme jank in how I'm handling it (which I'll definitely change in the future), so there's a chance it just breaks for any reason...

It's not an incompatibility technically, but I'm not confident in having fully fixed it lol

[strange beacon]

that just seems like imperium trolling you

[quasi nest]

Could be, haven't tested without it actually

[quasi nest]

@foggy ingot I'm basically using a bootleg, in-house JLL weather override thingy for the moon, and moved almost everything from the sun animation to that, so I'm doing some questionable stuff for compatibility with WeatherTweaks... I'll think of a better solution to how I'm currently handling it, but I just wanted to release this now lol

If you get any Bozoros-related bug reports for WeatherTweaks... tell them I'm dummy since it's probably my fault

[foggy ingot]

👀

if it's gonna be easier for you, i could add some sort of an event so it's easier for you to get when the weather is changing

[night quest]

🤨

Something about a child care center in Lethal Company sounds so wrong to me in so many ways

XD

[strange beacon]

the old bird theory:

[quasi nest]

Well, you see...

[strange beacon]

not really a theory just full on implications

[foggy ingot]

oh dear

oh no

[quasi nest]

LOL

Yeah it's not ideal

[foggy ingot]

if you want to check for progressing stuff, target this: https://github.com/AndreyMrovol/LethalWeatherRegistry/blob/805217ebdbb472162785093e283e73f3b09af7ae/WeatherRegistry/Networking/WeatherEffectData.cs#L16-L19

i'll add an in-house event for you to subscribe to

[foggy ingot]

that sent shivers down my spine 😭

[quasi nest]

That's not even the most cursed part 💀

I refuse to share it without comments LOL

[strange beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/maneater-lethal-company-bye-chat-bye-chat-gif-620758812306429858

[foggy ingot]

😳

i'm sorry for making you do this

if you want to get all enabled weather effects, you could target this: https://github.com/AndreyMrovol/LethalWeatherRegistry/blob/main/WeatherRegistry%2FWeatherManager.cs#L32-L42

I still have few bugs to fix in WeatherTweaks (because it's gonna show combined effect as a separate one), but it should be good enough for your purpose

[still fractal]

YES

[quasi nest]

It's alright lmao, I do definitely want to change it as soon as possible since if you for instance add combined + progressive weathers it'll implode

[quasi nest]

Yeah I need to look at the full scope of the codebase, I only really glimpsed it to see what made progressive/combined weathers tick

[foggy ingot]

i was crying making those work

"oh yeah, I'll rework tweaks to be more straightforward" and added another hack to that mix 😭

I hope to have it all sorted out today

I'll DM you with the suggestions 🤭

[night quest]

The tweaks are your problem child for an eternity but it's not even your fault. It's your most ambitious mod you've ever done

[still fractal]

man thunderstore takes way too long

[still fractal]

i love the circus facility

its so much better than it was before it got removed

i was not expecting it to look this cool

[night quest]

It finally made a return?

[still fractal]

yes

[strange beacon]

would it be possible to give the circus interior a stinger for when you first enter it?

[late roost]

Full changelog:

Version 2.2.0

Snowy season is here, just in time for the holidays!
    Be sure to stick around until late for an extra special, jolly firework show!
Snow has covered up all grass around the circus, you may even stumble across a wild Snowman!
    We don't know who's making them, but they keep showing up...
The firework show's water fountains will not be operational for the time being, as the lake has frozen over completely!
    We're not actually sure if it's fully frozen... Tread lightly!
Candy Canes and Nutcracker statues now adorn the circus.
    The Candy Canes are purely decorative. They may appear tasty but we strongly advice against licking them!
    The Nutcracker statues appear to have been purchased en masse from a factory by a nearby Toy Store, but they were sent to the wrong address. You may see them from time to time while we're still transporting them to their rightful owners!
There have been reported sightings of a red-clothed individual acting suspicious around the circus and stealing Candy Canes.
    We've been unable to verify their identity as they keep evading security, but be on the lookout and stay safe!

The CircusFacility interior has returned!
    There have been too many changes/adjustments/tweaks/fixes to list since the v1.0.1 release, but it's kept the same essence!
    Some things may be a bit off or different, as it was rebuilt from the ground up. Feedback is welcome in case there's anything to improve!
    A few minor things (e.g. an additional Hazard spawn point here and there) were intentionally added.

Switched to using pure EnemySkinRegistry as a dependency, no longer using EnemySkinKit.
    Clown Giants and Goofy Puffers that spawn in other maps will now also have their custom names!
    It's still a completely optional dependency, if enemy skins are not desired.
Miscellaneous tweaks/fixes:
    Balloons now properly despawn when leaving Bozoros.
    The interior no longer becomes red during Eclipsed.
    Added some more Vain Shroud spawning locations around the map.
    Added "Jolly" tag to the moon.
Changes to spawn weights:
    Lowered inside spawning weight for Brackens.
    Lowered outside spawning weight for Old Birds and Barbers.
    Raised inside and outside spawning weight for Butlers.
    Raised outside spawning weight for Circuit Bees.

[rich plinth]

[tired jacinth]

oh was the red overlay not intentional in the interior?

[strange beacon]

i actually liked that ngl

[strange beacon]

@quasi nest how did you reskin the knife

i didnt know that was possible

might need to get blaze on this...

[summer ingot]

Stoked for the update. I was playing yesterday and could not grab balloons. Has anyone else had this issue/is it fixed in the update?

[strange beacon]

lmao

happened after i closed the save file

at least the knifes model works

oh nvm now it didnt save after closing the save file again

[late roost]

You jump and keep holding space

It's a common ux issue with balloons, I think we need to make it more clear how to "hold" on

[late roost]

They are just asset replacement for some vanilla loot and not full on new pieces of loot

My friends and I are in the middle of an Archipelago run and Lethal Company is one of the games we are playing. I didn't want to break our APLC run by adding new loot into the pool so we just did asset replacements

[strange beacon]

hmmm

if its an asset replacement

||its weird that the gifts from santa at the end of the day are able to drop normal gifts out||

[late roost]

what do you mean

[strange beacon]

well, i mean what i said

it happened to me a few minutes ago

[late roost]

do you mean like gift within a gift

[strange beacon]

ye

[late roost]

i don't see how that's a problem really

[strange beacon]

well its not really
its just weird that can happen since its just an asset replacement of the gift and gifts cant do that in vanilla

unless im wrong and i hit the lottery of a rare bug ive never seen

[late roost]

i don't really care if that happens tbh

anecdotally i have received wrapped gifts in the past that had a smaller wrapped gift within, its fun

so i think it fits bozoros to have that happen

so unless its causing larger issues with scrap or something it stays

[strange beacon]

again, its not an actual major issue

was just funny

[quasi nest]

Vanilla gifts have a check for the gift item to skip it, I thought it'd be funny to allow gifts to be selected lol

[strange beacon]

ah ok

[clear kettle]

Does the new fireworks show work for other folks? Nothing happens for my group

Loving the goofy ice. It's already caused silly deaths

[quasi nest]

Oh really? I tested it in LAN with two game instances and it seemed to work fine for both

I'll double check but it could also be something with another mod

[clear kettle]

It might be. We do have a good handful

[quasi nest]

If there's anything causing a weather desync on clients it could also be that, it needs to be Clear/Rainy for the fireworks to show up

[clear kettle]

It was clear for all of us. The announcement started but nothing happened after.

I think the only weather mods we have are weather registry and lethal elements. But the fireworks worked in previous versions with the same mod pack so idk

[quasi nest]

Oh if everyone heard the announcements it should've spawned... hmm

[late roost]

are the fireworks still using the position and rotation constraints?

[quasi nest]

They're no longer in the sun animation, so they don't need them

Could be something with WeatherRegistry/LethalElements but I thought I sorted everything out with it

[late roost]

did you hear any audio when the show was supposed to happen

like music or anything

[clear kettle]

Nope. Just silence

I do have other issues being caused by other mods so I'm gonna have to fiddle with the pack anyway. Maybe it's the same culprit

[quasi nest]

Might be something with how I'm handling WeatherRegistry compatibility, don't know if I fully tested that in multiplayer

Gifts should spawn for everyone though, at least

[clear kettle]

I'll play around with stuff and see if I can get it working. I've not encountered any gifts either

[quasi nest]

Gifts take a bit to show up near the ship, I think ~11 PM in the middle of the fireworks show

[clear kettle]

Ahh. I'll keep an eye out

[clear kettle]

@quasi nest presents weren't working either. But disabling weather registry and lethal elements does in fact make everything start working. I'm assuming it's weather reg that's the culprit

[quasi nest]

Wait no the gifts spawning are tied to Santa... also I just tested and the firework show doesn't start with WeatherRegistry lol

[quasi nest]

Oh yeah

No it's definitely my fault, I'm doing some weird stuff lol

[clear kettle]

The event is really cool now that I've seen it. I enjoy the gifts, very cute.

[quasi nest]

Well the good news is it should show up during Rainy weather if using WeatherRegistry, but the announcement says the firework show is cancelled lol

[late roost]

Weather is being tweaked

As well as a few smaller fixes

[quasi nest]

I gotta put something there I guess lol

[rich plinth]

I mean theres also collider

I knew that there were pipes there but yknow just wanted to point that out

[late roost]

Unrelated to anything here but I was in the middle of working and listening to a song called Minor Setback when my computer just blue screened and I lost some work

[quasi nest]

Song wasn't lying

[late roost]

Guess not

an hour before i get off work too, tis rough

[late roost]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK5aD3Aurw4

[quasi nest]

Bozoros v2.2.1 uploaded!

• Reverted some "compatibility" (extreme jank) stuff for WeatherTweaks' combined and progressive weathers, which was breaking events altogether with WeatherRegistry installed...
  • There will be weird stuff happening if you land on Bozoros while on a combined or progressive weather at the moment.
  • Modded weathers work just fine with how I currently have them.
• Removed Stormy weather, for it didn't make much sense to have lightning without rain.
  • Moved Stormy weather particle effects to Rainy, which now has both the balloons and blizzard effects!
  • The fireworks show also no longer plays during Rainy weather.
• Changed terrain tag from Grass to Snow and moved it to the Terrain layer, so snowy footsteps actually show up.
  • Side effect: Hitting the ground with a shovel no longer makes a sound, but it's really not that important.
• Moved every AudioSource for the icy lake to the Master mixer group and reduced their range a bit.
  • Don't think this'll fix their sounds mysteriously being global... Not sure what's going on with that, as Spatial Blend is set to 1 for them all.
• Removed collision from the moon preview prefab while in orbit.
  • Forgot when exactly I added this, but I was testing some stuff and left it there...

Still some stuff that needs to be hotfixed, but this'll do for now

[strange beacon]

for it didn't make much sense to have lightning without rain
this can happen in real life

lightning is not formed purely from rain clouds, in fact lightning doesnt actually come from the sky, it comes from the ground

[wooden canopy]

Couldn’t you just also interpret the lightning coming from the symbols in the sky? lol

[quasi nest]

It's meant to be more of a blizzard than a storm with the current weather effects...

I'm still thinking about it, but @late roost was suggesting moving it to Rainy

[late roost]

Indeed

[wooden canopy]

What are those symbols anyway? Anomalous? Non-canon decorations? Something more?

[late roost]

Wanted to switch it up a bit, lightning during blizzard felt strange

[strange beacon]

hell weather mod added to bozoros....

[wooden canopy]

Absolutely not

[late roost]

Big Top Burger's clown planet had a similar looking sky that I used as reference

[wooden canopy]

Well yeah, I’m just wondering if they have any story significance though

[late roost]

Not really it was just a design choice I really dug

[wooden canopy]

Ah oki

[late roost]

The wonderful thing about Bozoros is how much of a blank book it really is. The lore I wrote was just vague enough to sound good in the terminal info node. It's really just open to a lot of interpretation as to how you can justify it fitting into Lethal Company

[quasi nest]

I've been making stuff up "lore-wise" in the changelogs a bit too lol, gave a reason for there being Nutcracker statues around the place, for instance

[neat mirage]

I liked putting the flesh interior on the moon to build on the mysterious lore

it was strangly fitting

[night quest]

Snowy weather with Lightning made absolutely no sense

[quasi nest]

Bozoros v2.2.2 uploaded... hotfix for the hotfix

• I've been informed having the terrain in the Terrain layer is not a requirement for snowy footsteps, and also causes some issues. It's now set back to the Room layer.
  • Thanks, @rich plinth!

[wooden canopy]

As if Bozoros makes sense to begin with though?

[rich plinth]

To be fair lighting that happens without rain clouds also wont spam the ground every 10 seconds

[quasi nest]

Balloon physics are 100% realistic, probably

[wooden canopy]

True!

[late roost]

I just don't want lightning in my blizzard

I'd rather have it served upside down the way God intended

[strange beacon]

i was not cooking https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1309444985799708712/1315940846927085609/2024-12-10_00-24-10_-_Trim_-_Trim.mp4?ex=67593cea&is=6757eb6a&hm=b9d13c95a909a6241ab327445369eaa12f1e9a5f86948e7a8cf4b1c351ddfa24&

[quasi nest]

Lumberjacking's dangerous!

[quasi nest]

||I was half expecting this to be a Cruiser + frozen lake clip LOL||

[strange beacon]

i actually havent tried driving it on the lake, is it fucked?

[quasi nest]

Works as intended... ||(the intentions are evil )||

[tired jacinth]

||learned that the hard way, evil to make the lake immediatley refreeze again||

[quasi nest]

It's not immediate (10 seconds) but gotta take into account seconds "used up" while figuring out what's going on + actually getting out of the water lmao

I could extend it for that specific situation though lol

[tired jacinth]

Youd have to make the timer more than a minute because the panic caused in the situation paired with the cruiser not doing what I want it to do

Might just be a skill issue tho

[quasi nest]

Nah, I'd panic like that if it happened to me blind LOL

[tired jacinth]

||I thought it would be like snowichi 😭||

[visual obsidian]

YIPPEEE

https://tenor.com/view/mark-gif-27356009

[strange beacon]

@quasi nest clients appear to have monsters invisible when on the ship

[wooden canopy]

Yeah, when you go beyond the hangar, the entities are culled for some reason

...and also sometimes get culled when not even in the ship to begin with

[quasi nest]

Oh wha? I've never seen this...

[night quest]

Were the ship doors closed? If so that is vanilla

Ship Windows has a patch that fixes it

The same thing would also happen for the host btw

[strange beacon]

no, it didnt happen to me, so it wasnt the vanilla bug

also i dont use ship windows

[nocturne charm]

btw @late roost @quasi nest not working on lc stuff directly much anymore but yall cooking good shit so feel free to bother me if you guys need anything

[late roost]

🫡

[wooden canopy]

As much as I like this, is there an option to disable the Christmas ver of Bozoros

Oh. Yikes

[tired jacinth]

whaaat

I get not liking the surfaced xmas as much, but snozoros is peak

[strange beacon]

they probably want to disable it cause of the gifts that spawn

[late roost]

You can rollback to the previous version or just wait until January when I remove the changes

[wooden canopy]

I'd prefer to keep all the fixes

TulipAgony

The fact this is Christmas-exclusive and can't be accessed outside of it, nor even disabled in December is weird af

[night quest]

I think Snozoros should stay but maybe do what @rich plinth does and have it be exclusive to DustClouds weather, he could probably help you and pacoito set that up ^^

I would rather it not get completely removed

[late roost]

I'm keeping it as is.

[rich plinth]

You dont need to set it to a weather only thing

[night quest]

Oh no I mean I'm saying in January

When you make the changes

I think it should always be Christmassy as is atm

But once January rolls around keep it for something like DustClouds

[rich plinth]

you can also just make it switch from one to the other randomly or have it set to dates (monday only, or december only etc.)

JLL has everything you want you can set it up in any way you like

[wooden canopy]

Disappointing

Ig I just won't install Bozoros until Christmas is over lmfao

[late roost]

January we were just going to remove all the holiday stuff and stash that away just have it be an annual thing, if people don't like it you don't have to download the update

[wooden canopy]

Yeah, but the problem is the fixes included with said update

Keep the Christmas shit in one update, and the fixes in another

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rich plinth]

I'd still say you can keep it and make it work with the date script JLL has where only winter season has the snowy version and you wouldnt need to reimplent it again

[late roost]

I'll look into that, this way if I ever decide to do like Halloween or something all that stuff will still exist

[wooden canopy]

Tf? So you're going to force us into these seasonal changes now /w JLL??

[late roost]

Maybe, maybe not

[wooden canopy]

Considers forcing us into things we can't opt out of
Violin emoji for some reason because fuck me I guess?? lol

[strange beacon]

should check who made that reaction

[wooden canopy]

I did

I was referring to the ones who did

[strange beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/soggy-cat-shark-ssoggycat-blender-twitter-gif-6055494234997748111

[rich plinth]

You dont need to update the mod and technically you are currently forced to play on snowy bozoros and seichi alike I know you guys love normal Seichi having many versions and I love them that way too, that is the reason why I did them the way I did but in Bozoros' case the snowy version is a christmas event - they might leave it in one way or another but its up to them. It's their choice what the mod's future will be. Then again I do think that playerbase's opinion matters a lot and I'm sure they'll take it in consideration. I merely gave them an idea how to leave the snowy version in to lessen the future workload of adding it back. (and I like the snowy version too )

@late roost Here is a pic of JLL's Date Filter script

[late roost]

Oh damn you can do it to the hour, that's pretty damn nifty

[rich plinth]

I havent messed with it yet but Im sure I will in the future

[late roost]

Are there any maps that utilize this to have things happen during certain hours?

[strange beacon]

seichi mailbox vs code rebirth industrial fan....

[late roost]

I can imagine like having a map thats a bar or something and having a happy hour thing lol whatever that entails

[wooden canopy]

I don't have Seichi atm, so that's irrelevant, but I planned on adding Bozoros, but adding unnecessary limitations to an entire map game, not only aesthetically, but mechanically that I cannot opt out sours the experience a lot. So, yeah, I won't be installing Bozoros from this point on because of this quite frankly stupid-ass decision

[wicked crown]

You’re quite rude

[wooden canopy]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rich plinth]

uhm the date filter is for irl hour, for ingame hourly stuff you can use this one here

[late roost]

yeah that's what i mean haha, like I can imagine playing on Infernis or something and at exactly 9pm a volcano blows up idk

[rich plinth]

well you just gotta wait for Wes' update, even I dont know what exactly he did for most of his stuff.. he is very secretive

but that is something I want to do for Arelion, just havent had the time to mess with particles

Like I said you can basically do anything with JLL

[late roost]

Tbf I didn't make the map for you or anyone else for that matter. This map and what goes into it only happens because it's what I want to play with my friends when I boot up Lethal Company with our modpack. I put the effort and time into this in my free time when I could be doing other stuff and I only share it with others because I figured I had something fun to offer to the table. I take the constructive criticism as it comes but I also take it with a grain of salt because frankly, your attitude was sour even before you started engaging with some of the other people in here. Calling my decisions "stupid-ass" and calling our work and effort "shit" isn't netting you any positives on me even wanting to consider your feedback, especially on something that's honestly frivolous and will be gone in three weeks anyway.

Play Bozoros or not idc. c ya 👋

[wooden canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/soggy-cat-shark-sillyfuny-gif-26644892

[late roost]

Last time I looked at JLL the feature list was smol so I'll have to reexamine this

Also Paco's pretty proud of coding in some of the map features himself (but honestly I think he should contribute what he built for us to JLL or make his own map support library 🤫 )

We're already planning some fun features for PlayZone that will be custom so I'm curious as to what else JLL can help with there

[rich plinth]

I'd love that, I know he made some nice stuff and would love to mess with them

[quasi nest]

Bozoros dependency works for now... lol

[quasi nest]

Fixes are pretty minor tbh, and you can just drag and drop the circus facility .lethalbundle to the older version if you really want to play with that too

[rich plinth]

fair 'nuff but I won't mess with things like that for a bit

[late roost]

Referring back to this, it's a good idea, at least for the frozen lake and the snow, not so much the Christmas stuff lol

Eagerly anticipating Snowy weather being added to Lethal Elements, so we can definitely flip on the blizzard stuff I made if that weather gets rolled

[rich plinth]

@static furnace /jk but how you doing with that?

[static furnace]

check the thread

[quasi nest]

Oh that looks really nice lol

Still need to figure out how to meshify terrain without making the road look bad, but I'd be down to do that immediately

[late roost]

Looks sick!

I'll meet you over there

[static furnace]

Btw if you have outdoor buildings on your moon and want to stop my weathers from affecting players inside (like heatstroke or frostbite) in the next version you can do this by adding a reverb trigger with "insideLighting" set to true when you enter, and another one with false when the player leaves the building.
Also if you want my code to find your meshified ground you need either to have "terrain" in any of those - material name, gameobject name or mesh name OR it needs to be set to Decal level 2 (same as quicksand). And it must be tagged like vanilla terrains - "Snow", 'Grass', "Rock" or "Gravel".
This is just a heads up to have perfect compatibility, but i already have some contingencies implemented just in case.

[quasi nest]

Can't go into tents at the moment, but I'll keep that in mind if we ever add a proper inside to them lol

[late roost]

Got PlayZone on the brain

I was working on it last night a little bit and I'm giddy about how its coming along

[rich plinth]

Uhh ty for the info

I’ll check mine later

[scarlet basin]

@late roost I just want to say Thank you for the amazing work! I personally love the event! You have definitely outdid yourself here! I saw some negativity in here and decided instead of responding to that I would just ping you and tell you my community and I appreciate the work you've done! With this event I'm now very curious to see what you would cook up for other seasons! Stay motivated and remember there are tons of people who love your work out there!

Just a note to people! Please if you don't like the update then refrain from acting childish and entitled. Devs do these mods in their free time and ask nothing in return from us. We aren't expected to like everything they do, but that doesn't give us the community the right to insult devs. Please let's stay respectful everyone!

[strange beacon]

the only things i dont like are the presents and the santa butler is locked behind this event

[late roost]

Presents we are actually adjusting to not be so... generous

[strange beacon]

i think thats why sorrow was so upset, cause the presents snozoros gives can be a bit unbalanced for mod packs trying to inclue bozoros specifically

[late roost]

I had the same thought when playtesting with my friends, we got so much money from the four gifts that I was like "we should probably dial it back"

[strange beacon]

ive only gotten one coal ever, so i assume the chance of getting it is higher

[late roost]

Paco played with his group and they got a bunch of gold bars 💀

[strange beacon]

oh yeah i got a lot of gold bars too lmao

[late roost]

Yeah I asked him if he could increase the chances of coal and cap the scrap value to around 40 each

[strange beacon]

ok thats neat

[late roost]

So that brings it down to a max value of about 160 if you're lucky and don't get coal, which I think is far more reasonable than giving out a free quota every time you survive a day at the moon lol

[strange beacon]

santa butler being locked behind the event still kinda sad but tbh its understandable why it is

its bright like ghost girl is and the candy cane model replacement is janky with save file closing and stuff

[late roost]

Santa butler wasn't even going to happen until I had the thought of "What would be the absolute dumbest thing to see reskinned for the holidays"

The candy cane was suggested by one of my friends

[strange beacon]

its not dumb, i really like it

it genuinely works with the butler

[late roost]

I'm just saying, use imperium and fly up to the sleigh

I was chuckling as I was making it lol

[strange beacon]

oh my god i havent done that yet

[quasi nest]

Jetpack works too lol

[scarlet basin]

A few bug reports from our lobby though.

• Ballons seem to only work for Host. Clients can't see them.

• Poofers sometimes don't despawn for some players properly. Had a player see one in ship while in orbit. Might be a late join bug.

• Bozoros Giants spawned on other moons. They escaped the circus and are wrecking havoc on other planets now. 😆 not sure if it was intentional or not for them to spawn elsewhere.

[strange beacon]

clown giants became a skin

just alter the config

[strange beacon]

just alter the config

W double message bug

[scarlet basin]

This was from a client.

[late roost]

That first one happened to us when we just had a desync between versions installed

[scarlet basin]

I figured that was the case.

[quasi nest]

Oh yeah there might be something wrong with the balloons' networking I need to check out (maybe with another mod)

[scarlet basin]

We were all on the same version

[quasi nest]

Clown Giants (and Goofy Puffers) are set to spawn on any moons that have the Fun or Circus tag

The despawn thing is just a general issue with enemies not despawning though, I've been seeing it around

[scarlet basin]

It worked before the update. Group spent 2k on damn ballons.

[strange beacon]

out of curiosity why did you create five tags for bozoros

not including the snozoros one

[late roost]

Yeah I've had that happen in a couple modpacks before, its usually caused by some sort of mod conflict that stops the enemies from being able to despawn

The worst was when Slenderman followed us to the company moon

[strange beacon]

im 99% sure indoor monsters that spawn from daytime power cant despawn

daytime power doesnt set monsters to be able to despawn afaik

[scarlet basin]

We only ever had it happen with one other enemy before and we removed that one. Any known mods that cause it?

[strange beacon]

its just manticoils and locusts have the property of being able to

like, circuit bees dont despawn, yknow?

[late roost]

For the life of me I could never figure out what was doing it, must have removed the right one though because we haven't had that issue in a few weeks

[scarlet basin]

Hmm. It's weird cause it's only ever happened with 1 other enemy before and it was related to a late join issue.

[quasi nest]

They do though, at the end of the round

Spore Lizards should too

[strange beacon]

...no?

[quasi nest]

Well you have something causing that 💀

[strange beacon]

i know circuit bee AI breaks after its like 11:30

but they dont despawn

[scarlet basin]

I do remember testing something once that broke the bees and stopped them from despawning. We caught it right away during our testing and pulled the mod quickly.

[quasi nest]

I meant end of round as in ship has left the moon end, not late at night

[strange beacon]

oh i see what you mean

[late roost]

I know my friends and I narrowed it down I just suck at remembering things

Oh!

[scarlet basin]

If you do happen to remember it can you let me know.

[late roost]

Wax soldiers in biodiversity

That was it

[scarlet basin]

Oh we don't have that

[late roost]

We had biodiversity and didn't disable wax soldiers, those enemies don't exist so the game really got confused

[strange beacon]

mid soldiers....

[quasi nest]

Do you happen to have the full log? I wanna see if there's something networking-related with the balloons

[scarlet basin]

I don't. A client sent it mid lobby.

I'm also out of state for work right now too so I can't test to reproduce it either.

Also are the presents using the same vanilla presents? I'm wondering if maybe there was a conflict with Lethal Presents mod and your special presents?

Maybe that's what caused the issue of the enemy not despawning if it was opened on the ship then.

[quasi nest]

They're the same as vanilla presents, I just change their contents the moment they spawn and replace the model with Coal if there's specifically a Plastic Cup worth 1 scrap in it

[strange beacon]

we love coal

[quasi nest]

Wanted to avoid shuffling item IDs by registering new items, for the Archipelago thing Matt's doing

[scarlet basin]

Hmm... I'm wondering then if it is a conflict with lethal presents. I was also reminding of an issue with a shyguy too spawned from a present

[quasi nest]

I made it that way also for LethalPresents but I didn't actually test it, don't see why it would error out though

[scarlet basin]

It's just speculation. Code breaks in weirder ways. Would require some testing. I'll add it to my list of things to break this weekend 🙂

[strange beacon]

hes making an archipelago moon?

[quasi nest]

Oh no, Archipelago Multiworld randomizer he's doing with his friends, with a bunch of games including Lethal Company

[strange beacon]

ah

[quasi nest]

Shuffling item IDs would cause all sorts of issues with stuff that's unlocked and/or can be unlocked

He wanted to play on Snozoros during December too, but they'd have to restart everything basically if I added them as proper items

[quasi nest]

This is all the gift-related patching I'm doing pretty much... if the present's value is 1 (which is the value I set for the "Coal"), it starts a Coroutine that waits until the item is fully spawned on the local client, before swapping its model and material, and renaming its scan node

Other than that it's just a normal gift being opened, so it should spawn enemies

Plastic Cup was just abritrarily chosen due to having a scale amount that made the coal fairly large, I originally wanted to use Keys, but they were tiny

[quasi nest]

!

I'm dummy I think

Or nevermind, I thought I found what was wrong... hmm

Wait no I am dummy

I'm using a direct path in here instead of a relative one... and I moved balloon stuff to Prefabs/Balloons/

I've already switched to just using relative paths for next update lol, but that's what's wrong

It's only spawning for the host because it's not being registered in the network

By relative paths I mean having only the name of the asset lol

Balloon machine (stand) broke

[final burrow]

Actual image of @wooden canopy

[wooden canopy]

True...

[quasi nest]

(For the record, I would put a GrinchMode setting in the config to disable seasonal events, just not a priority at the moment...)