Scarlet Devil Mansion v2.2（紅魔館）

[short pewter]

okay hang on

i might try to reinstall it

[tropic creek]

If you update it, the Scarlet Devil Mansion becomes "Scarlet Foyer" and the new one "Scarlet Basement" gets added to the config too

[short pewter]

oh...so its not 3 different interiors is what im gathering

its just 2 and mansion got renamed?

[tropic creek]

You would have to run the game, then quit to see the updated configs

[short pewter]

I seeeeeeee

okay that helps so much

in that case its working perfectly

[tropic creek]

Always run the game once, then quit to update your config list

[short pewter]

awesome

thanks so much

[tropic creek]

[tranquil frigate]

First person to suggest some reasonable idea to add to SDM will be implemented

[rare needle]

Honestly, more interior exclusive scraps are what I wanna see tbh ^^ I really like them

[tranquil frigate]

Alright next person suggests one touhou themed scrap

Also you @rare needle I saw your tier list. I dropped down to A tier. Understandable no bad vibes but what you think other dungeons is doing better than mine to get S tier

[rare needle]

Also compat with LethalElements could be cool, the areas where it rains inside could maybe have Snow during Snowfall and Blizzard

But idk how difficult that'd be

[tranquil frigate]

I currently only do rain, I would like to add more weather effects. Maybe I can start with lighting/flodded/foggy (only for outside rooms and it'll be faint)

Then I can do LethalElements after, not this patch

[rare needle]

Oh I still adore the interior, I only really dropped it cus it visually stands out so much lol but I feel like anything lower than A tier is a bit criminal with all the hard work and effort you put in

It still remains a mainstay in my pack and one of my favorite interiors

[tranquil frigate]

Stands out as in, not LC-like the textures and such?

[rare needle]

Ye basically, it has it's own visual style but I like it

Definitely is a better interior now than when I first started using it though. It's wicked to think about all the changes that have been done overtime

[tranquil frigate]

Understandable. That seems to be the theme mostly with the dislike towards my dungeon. It has a very separate style compared to LC and other mods.

So I'll just go harder on the style

[tranquil frigate]

Please still respond next person to suggest perfect touhou idea

[weak stag]

Perhaps Marisa's broom
Fits in quite well aesthetically with the interior too

[tranquil frigate]

broom hmmst, what would the broom do though

all my scrap gotta have something unique about them even if very minour stuff

[weak stag]

Hmm. Well, since brooms are for sweeping stuff, and its marisa's broom in the SDM and she is known for stealing, as well as flying and being magical, perhaps it could go out and grab scraps and bring them towards you when used

[tranquil frigate]

grabbing loot

alright im in

say no more

[weak stag]

It being able to push all the scrap it hits into 1 spot in the ship would actually be really useful

[tranquil frigate]

that's a cool idea

[weak stag]

Like, kinda fly out a set distance or so
Stop
Then do the sweep motion towards the player, bringing any scraps with it and ye

Could be interesting if scraps ever fall in bad spots too

Or for getting beehives

[cerulean ether]

Can we have meteor shower compat

[tranquil frigate]

no

[cerulean ether]

C tier

[tranquil frigate]

your mod ya

happy that you accepted it

[cerulean ether]

Nuhuh

[tropic creek]

Rare Spell Card scrap that you can use as a projectile weapon?

Also maybe paint the whole Foyer interior a certain hue of Red

Eventually we will get some goober that'll say "Why is it called Scarlet if the interior isn't even colored Scarlet?" unless we already had such a goober run through here, saying that.

[stiff geode]

"Bad Apple"

[balmy ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-apple-manu-touhou-gif-21182229

[stiff geode]

adding a Black/White apple item would be a nice reference

[digital wing]

sdm is s tier everyday

[digital wing]

ohhh boy gooood ideaaaa! a scrap that plays the entire bad apple video when squeezed

[tranquil frigate]

new scrap item, a basket of white and red apples

maybe, the scrap idea already taken

working on changing the hallway textures to something less scuffed, need a bit more details

[stiff geode]

i hate enviroment texturing

[tranquil frigate]

next update will just be hallway tile changes, the funny broom item, and maybe one new texture change

[tranquil frigate]

first time ever doing anything complicated with texturing

annoying for real

[stiff geode]

used to do it all the time in VRC, never got less annoying.
I like what you made, a solid pack of assets that matches its own theme

[tranquil frigate]

lmao the assets for my interior were taken almost entirely from one fan game i made

besides some models I've asked and some models I joinked from the internet, this is the first time making my own

[stiff geode]

nice

[cerulean ether]

Yeah, stupid tier!!

[tranquil frigate]

I sent a missle to your house

[cerulean ether]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807809192537882647/1023257725821534324/29B137A0-B2CA-4BD3-A92E-542BCC35BEED.gif

[rare needle]

@tranquil frigate Client's log, had someone get targeted by the maid and they became Shadow Realmed, upon trying to kill the Maid as host she wouldn't die for me but did for the client

There's a ton of Targetable A spam

My log as host if it shows anything

[tranquil frigate]

its always you with bugs

let me see

[rare needle]

Honestly in this case it had to be a network syncing issue with the Maid probably

cus I haven't had anyone get Shadow Realmed in ages

lol

[tranquil frigate]

it would weird as the maid code is exactly the same as the butler code

[rare needle]

Hmmm odd, well I remember one time a long time ago a Butler shadow realmed a player in SDM so that could explain some things

[tranquil frigate]

send me mod list and ill take a look later

[rare needle]

0194d413-e531-add2-857d-5160d9274e50

[tranquil frigate]

you can disable the maid for the time being

[rare needle]

Oh I just realized maybe it's cus of ButteRyBalance? It makes some changes to the Butler

[tranquil frigate]

maybe? the maid code is copy pasted from the butler so the maid shouldn't be affected

[tropic creek]

While we're on the topic, are Maids supposed to drop the knife or not due to balance?

[tranquil frigate]

they are supposed to drop a knife, it's attached to their body

well actually a knife does drop but it's invisible. it's visually linked to the knife on the maid but the hitbox is on the invisible knife

[tropic creek]

Maybe that's why I can't seem to pick it off their bodies. Does it come with a scan node?

Also I guess I'm screwed if the maid falls back into a wall

[tranquil frigate]

the knife would drop just like how the butler does it

it should come with a scan but ill look at that later, maybe i bugged it

[tropic creek]

I sometimes thought they disappeared because I would scan it and never find the knife

If I can manage to make her NOT fall into a wall, I might be able to finally get my knife!

[tranquil frigate]

any thoughts gamers

as the new look for hallways

[rare needle]

Ooh I really love this

[tranquil frigate]

in comparsion (current)

[rare needle]

Yeah I really like the new change, it adds more detail and helps feel like it integrates into LC Better

Current looks so flat in comparison

[unreal mulch]

wow ya that's like a night and day improvement

[drowsy estuary]

damn that looks great

[balmy ibex]

finally the round table have more round shadow and not square

the new wall looks really nice with the light

[tropic creek]

Silent Hill Mansion

I love it

Does that wallpaper come in red?

Asking for a mistress

[tranquil frigate]

it could come in red, but the whole dungeon is black and white

we in too deep to add colors to the dungeon

[tropic creek]

[thick sage]

shoves

[tropic creek]

Mistress is sad to hear this

[thick sage]

7

Time for a filter

[dawn bramble]

Inb4 a "Bozoros" version of the SDM interior on April 1st

Featuring Clownpiece as a Ghost Girl reskin

[alpine goblet]

why clownpiece when you can have a koishi ghost girl

she suits more the whole "only one dude can see her" gimmick

[elder python]

Tbf, I had "Bozoros" in mind and jokingly suggested that someone makes a 🤡 version of SDM like how Bozoros' interior is a facility recolor

[tropic creek]

Remilia would be unamused

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-remilia-frustrated-gif-8545299

[balmy ibex]

would be funi if u add an event like taking the painting but instead of danger it gives color to the mansion

[elder python]

Me getting the spray paint mod that lets me use different colors (I am going to vandalize Remilia's mansion):

[tranquil frigate]

coming to a mansion near you soon™

[cerulean ether]

Wow is that me, I didn't know you were a big fan

[tranquil frigate]

where is you

[cerulean ether]

There

In the gif

[tranquil frigate]

im pointing a gun at that one

that you?

[cerulean ether]

Maybe

I'm.also interested in the shader or the effect you used for the pictures inside the painting

[tranquil frigate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGn5RjTVUWI
listen to this song first and ill tell you

[elder python]

Oh these are rad. Would it be possible to enable a config that lets us change the portraits sometime in the future? Or would that be too much?

[tranquil frigate]

config to change the portraits?

[elder python]

Yeah, like how some mods let you change images for posters, or something like the Jesus near-death mod

[tranquil frigate]

probably no, just cause I have many other things to do that have more priority

and image portrait modding is just not important enough

[elder python]

Fair enough!

[cerulean ether]

Now tell me

[tranquil frigate]

it's just uv displacement

this is also the black edges texture, real shrimple

[cerulean ether]

owh

interesting

[balmy ibex]

[unreal mulch]

thats so cool

[tropic creek]

Honestly, since I've been dabbling into texture editing, I could probably take the time to recolor the walls and floors for you, although it depends on how high-res and complex you're planning on making the new textures in the new update.

[tranquil frigate]

I'm currently only updating the hallway textures since the rest of the textures are mostly fine. I gave some of the current textures a bit of depth with normals so they don't look completely flat.

The colouring request though, I must decline. I'm already redoing all the hallway and void rooms with these new hallway textures just so they all fit. I can't imagine redoing every single existing room so their new colours flow great.

Aka maybe one day, but I very much cannot now

[stiff geode]

that feel when someone doesnt organise their nodes cleanly

[tranquil frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/chen-mantis-gs_mantis-touhou-sunglasses-gif-11705505

[tranquil frigate]

update maybe today. wanna add a few more rooms and it's good

dungeon generation changes too.
Dungeon Foyer is more likely to be hallways that lead to bigger rooms, branching paths shorter, but in exchange the main paths are larger.
Dungeon Basement is the same thing except its main paths are even more larger so even more hallways. in exchange there are less big rooms.

[tropic creek]

[dawn bramble]

dungeon basement

WE ARE SO BACK

[tranquil frigate]

update ready

let me see if i can find these bugs posted above

[tranquil frigate]

check this

[tranquil frigate]

and check this

and make my portrait ink more noticeable

[cerulean ether]

i have a bug, it's called raph, pls get rid of

[tranquil frigate]

Intended feature

[cerulean ether]

damn

[tropic creek]

I'll assemble the team next chance we get

[tranquil frigate]

@tropic creek when you say that you pick it off their bodies, do you were if you were targeting the knife on their back

if their death animation does clip into the wall, it would be impossible to grab their knife

[tropic creek]

I try to pick it off their bodies, but I don't ever see a prompt to pick up an object no matter where I look because I can't see any knife. And yeah, I've seen them fall into the wall to make it impossible to check the whole body.

[tranquil frigate]

ill extend the initial knife grabbing hitbox to be the maid's hitbox

and see if that fixes it

[tranquil frigate]

i finally found the reason to why my blood stains were pure white

i set a z scale to 0 instead of 0.03 by accident

i cant believe this

[tropic creek]

I did some testing on my own with Imperium and I can at least confirm that now the knife appears on her back and I can scan it to locate it.

But at that point, my client bugged out, maybe because I was using Imperium a little too much and I got grabbed by a few Masked guys on the way back to the Mansion.

I'll test it again when I'm not being hassled by the local mafia

[tranquil frigate]

update pushed

if something breaks lmk

[tropic creek]

On another note, good job on the Sanguine map

[south schooner]

Sanguine was made by Tolian tho?

[tropic creek]

And helped by Lady Raphtalia

Sure, only one person publishes it, but there's more credits that go into making a mod than just one person.

If I were to make one, I would certainly need help from multiple people

[tranquil frigate]

I "helped". Tolian did everything

[tropic creek]

What exactly did you help with?

[tranquil frigate]

the rough draft for the moon's layout

and that's it

[cerulean ether]

wow, shoulda helped more

[tropic creek]

I mean hey, every builder needs an Architect. I like the fact that you fooled Tolian into making a Touhou map for you.

[sonic roost]

I dont know whats wrong, the mod isnt working for me. I installed it like every other mod and it is not generating any config file, also not loading in lethal level loader

It used to work for me though, now it doesnt

[tropic creek]

The interiors got a name change, and are now split into two.

Run the game and do another check

Be sure that your ship loads in before quitting out and checking your configs.

Look for "Scarlet Foyer" and "Scarlet Basement"

[sonic roost]

I will try to reinstall the mod with all the dependencies, but it still does not load at al

[tropic creek]

One time I lost my config for the Pool Rooms, and it just took me some restarts to get it back.

[sonic roost]

Now it loaded! I think it was lethallevelloader, it was one of the dependencies that I didnt have updated

Thank you for your help though, I also see those new files now.

[tropic creek]

Always make sure to update your mods before fiddling with configs

[tropic creek]

Alright, I did some more testing, and I can confirm that the knife works as intended, except for one little detail.

It doesn't seem to register as a weapon for the Reserved Weapon Slot mod, but that can be changed easily with configs.

[elder python]

Woah wait, really? Do tell! I've been wanting to do something like that with the Comically Large Spoon in Premium Scraps

[tropic creek]

Check the config for ReservedWeaponSlot and add the name to the list of additional melee weapons.

[tropic creek]

Another minor detail about the knife:

When I'm holding it, it loops a little animation and snaps to the beginning of that animation suddenly after it ends instead of staying in the idle position.

I've noticed this happening in a few other modded items, but it doesn't prevent it from working at least.

[tranquil frigate]

I may be crazy but i think the default knife has the same issue

They both use the same knife holding animation

[tropic creek]

Yeah, I thought so. This seems common among wieldable items.

I forgot which other modded item this happens for though.

[elder python]

Ooooo, thanks a bunch! Okay, I see it now

[tropic creek]

||Also funny of you to let me "feed" the knife.||

[rare needle]

@tranquil frigate Ran into a funny issue today with the Scarlet Foyer, DemonMae has an anomaly moon with 6 fire exits and it seems like one failed to generate cus it was very laggy. I really wish we could get a mod for situations like this where the game would stop checking for a new fire exit every frame when this occurs

[opal wigeon]

Wrong place to be asking

[rare needle]

I wasn't really asking, was just informing her of it and just stated that I wish a mod for that existed cus it's a frequent problem

It would be a bandaid solution to fix lag when this occurs

[opal wigeon]

You are asking tho

A basegame optimisation fix doesn’t fit in a content mod

[rare needle]

Agreed

Something like this though however could be fitting to be implemented into DungeonGenerationPlus?

If not one of the larger bug fix mods

[opal wigeon]

seems more fitting for diffoz’s thing

[rare needle]

True, true

If he ever returns from hiatus it could be a great idea for LethalPerformance

@flat leaf Assuming you would feel like looking into this, it would be perfect for fixing issues with Mineshaft on custom moons. Mineshaft really likes to fail to generate fire exits more than any other interior when a moon has more than 2 fire exits

In the case for SDM it's pretty niche, a moon having more than 4 or 5 exits is rare so SDM usually is fine and I suspect Raphtalia can easily fix that issue on her own end

[opal wigeon]

It’s not necessarily a Issue for Raph to fix on their end

[rare needle]

I mean generally when this happens interior makers just ensure that enough fire exits can generate, I wasn't saying for her to add a caching system or something. But yeah if she doesn't wanna fix it she doesn't have to it just means preventing the interior from spawning on that moon but I would rather not cus the Moon changes depending on Interior which is really cool

I could probably just remove the Foyer from being on it and see if the Basement version of the Interior works okay

[tropic creek]

I found out that Cosmocos is one such moon where the fire exit count is unbelievable. At least 5 of them are in the main grounds, but one is located in a separate part of the map to lock away an area with some special moon-specific item. So I think there's about 6 or 7 total.

[tranquil frigate]

Why does a moon need more than 6 fire exits respectfully.

I would have to check again to see why that's happening. My code should try and fill up all fire exits regardless of the number

[rare needle]

It seems like Cosmocos and ||Pandoramus|| like to have 6 apparently lol

[tropic creek]

When Wesley wants to play shenanigans with one of his "finalé" moons.

[rare needle]

Cosmocos makes sense

It has a lot of different paths it can branch to

[tropic creek]

Otherwise 6 fire exits make no sense

I have seen about 5 exits on Tenebrous from LunarLights

But that's just a metal platform in the middle of the ocean

[rare needle]

Tenebrous is probably my favorite LunarLights moon tbh

I wasn't a huge fan of Rampart, I love it design wise but not Gameplay wise

[tropic creek]

Tenebrous is mine too, but I kinda wished it was standalone

[tranquil frigate]

Mod makers need more restraint smh

Anyway I'll do a check

Oh ya also your maid bug, I'll check to verify but since it seemed like a multiplayer bug I can't easily check it

[rare needle]

Could it maybe repro in Lan?

[tropic creek]

When I first tried to get the knife, it was in multiplayer with one other friend, and neither of us could get the knife.

Singleplayer seemed to work fine, although I was using Imperium to spawn the maids by force. I'll try it later with the SDM with my friends.

[tranquil frigate]

I saw something similar when I was doing on Imperium with some friends

Items were really bugging out so it's not just a maid thing

[tropic creek]

My friends often have desync issues which allow them to cheat death sometimes, but also changes the location of the cruiser and furniture.

It might also affect items

[tranquil frigate]

Ultimately an imperium issue not mine

[tranquil frigate]

Tbh i don't know how to lan debug

[rare needle]

I'm kind of surprised after all these updates I still see errors about the SnowGlobe having a duplicate GlobalObjectIDHash btw XD

It doesn't seem to cause issues it's just funny

[tranquil frigate]

That error is weird and since it's not breaking the game not my issue

[rare needle]

I do wonder if Xu could help you fix it though

@cerulean ether Any thoughts?

[tropic creek]

When I play with friends, I don't use Imperium

Imperium is solely for me to test alone

[tranquil frigate]

@tropic creek are you saying that the maid knife bug still occurs without imperium as of the last patch

[rare needle]

Wonder if that all relates somehow, wonder if the knife being bugged is why the maid put a client in like their own dimension with her for whatever reason. Could have lead to a network related desync potentially

[tranquil frigate]

It's possible but items have no collisions with player and the item itself doesn't spawn after the maid dies

[rare needle]

Yeah idk, networking desyncs are always strange to figure out

[tranquil frigate]

Dimension warping is something else weird entirely

[rare needle]

Yeah. It was like they just got shadow realmed the second she spawned in. Reminds me a lot of when the Bracken Personal Space bug would happen with Diversity and the targeted client would become invincible

[tropic creek]

You're referring to the bug about the knife not appearing or the bug about the looping animation? When I was with friends and not Imperium, the knife wouldn't appear on naturally-occurring Maids.

When I was in Imperium spawning in Maids, I could easily get the knife after killing them.

I could fiddle with Maid spawning weights to make sure they spawn naturally in the mansion next time to see if it's a thing that happens to natural maids though

[tranquil frigate]

Just send me your mod pack code and I can do a check

Since your bug seems like everyone is having issues

[torpid plank]

Most ive seen was 8 but yeah thats just gonna be a weird moon.

[torpid plank]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-pokemon2019-cuffs-animefan27-gif-21654720

[balmy ibex]

I seen some moons using the fire exit to reach hidden place or something, forget what moons tho

[tropic creek]

0194ee97-2e76-a261-c9e5-cd969493145e Here's my Testing pack.

I just recently fiddled with enemy spawn weights so the Maid can spawn on Solace, Big Boo's Haunt, and Sanguine.

I tried cranking up those spawns in particular so they're more guaranteed, but you might also get interference from the Sentinel mod.

I guess just kill the poor thing and see if that opens up the spawn pool for more.

[cerulean ether]

two of wesley's end game moons' gimmicks is going inside and finding like, 1 out of 10 specific fire exits or smthn that leads somewhere important, gameplay wise, isnt the most fun but it is what it is

[cerulean ether]

if you were a good modder the error wouldnt exist

[rare needle]

I figured you would know how to fix it since you shared the assets with her lol

[tranquil frigate]

the issue is probably because i copy and pasted their snowglobe prefab

so we share the same ids

and the error is funny so i havent fixed

[tranquil frigate]

testing myself no issues, ill check on multi

[tropic creek]

Need me to hop online?

[tranquil frigate]

tested on lan

found the issue

you were right i was left

looking at the code, the ghost never ever worked on multiplayer?

[tropic creek]

When I killed a Maid in singleplayer from an Imperium spawner, a phantom immediately bum-rushed me

But not multi

[tranquil frigate]

in sp it's fine, which i always assumed to work for multi

[tropic creek]

We killed a few maids before and didn't get rushed down by any ghost

And the knife also didn't appear in multi at that time

Only the butlers gave me a knife in MP

[tranquil frigate]

its cause the ghost code fails in mp, so the knife don't spawn

[tropic creek]

The knife is tied to the ghost?

[tranquil frigate]

nope, just the way code flows

knife spawns after the ghost, but if the ghost crashes out, the knife code don't get reached

[tropic creek]

Any way to bring the knife in first, so it takes priority before getting messed up by the ghost?

[tranquil frigate]

just write better code

[tropic creek]

[cerulean ether]

knew it, bad dev

[tranquil frigate]

mods

castrate

now

[cerulean ether]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-keyboard-ginger-cat-gif-27129143

[tropic creek]

Honestly I think the maid is deadly enough on her own in multiplayer without a bee substitute coming to kill us.

[dawn bramble]

SDM when you kill a Maid (it immediately spawns another one 2 rooms away)

[tropic creek]

Or aggros the others populating the mansion

Considering the large Maid population, the crowd control is fair enough.

[tranquil frigate]

turn it off if you don't like it

[tropic creek]

If I turn it off, will the knife appear in multiplayer?

[tranquil frigate]

yuh, they separate configs

[tropic creek]

Finally, a worthwhile endeavor is upon us.

[tranquil frigate]

alright i think i cracked on the ghost enemy

the issue was me calling new ownership on start, which lead to a series of failing bugs

i coded it like that since the beginning, and no one has reported anything wrong till now, which confuses me greatly

alright next issue is wesley moon

[tropic creek]

I should test things more often

[cerulean ether]

whats the issue there?

[tranquil frigate]

on a moon with 6+ fire exits, my map eats shit

[cerulean ether]

oh, your interior isnt the only one, but yeah idk the solution for that

mineshaft also cries a lot in those moons

you'll wanna try cosmocos, i think thats the one with the 6+ fire exits

[tranquil frigate]

my theory is how I added the new feature to restrict fire exits within a certain distance

[tropic creek]

Is there a way to configure negative weight to a moon to take away its chances of spawning?

[tranquil frigate]

the feature straight up removes fire exits from the pool, so it's possible that it can remove all fire exits

[cerulean ether]

none of your mods were included when mineshaft was reducing frames to like 20fps in the moons with 6+ fire exits if thats yer theory

but idk if your mod exaggerates it more

[tranquil frigate]

well time to test theory

also didn't realize that my mod spams messages at startup

what's up with that

[cerulean ether]

do i gotta say it again

[tranquil frigate]

do i gotta castrate you again

[cerulean ether]

😶

[tranquil frigate]

stay bald

https://tenor.com/view/cirno-fumo-touhou-toho-2hu-gif-25695751

[cerulean ether]

nou

[tropic creek]

https://tenor.com/view/fumo-fumofumo-touhou-touhou-fumo-alice-margatroid-gif-20710104

[tranquil frigate]

ahh this is the LLL bugs I've been hearing about

50/50 on whether the moon lands

[cerulean ether]

thats a thing?

do you mean pulling the lever doing nothing while routing?

[tranquil frigate]

my fuckin God

a bracken spawned on my ass during testing

what an asshole

[cerulean ether]

its a sign

[tranquil frigate]

no as in, pulling the lever will say "moon not in build settings"

[cerulean ether]

huh, havent seen that one before lol

[tranquil frigate]

@rare needle are you sure it's the lack of fire exits?

I forced my interior onto Cosmocos with not all the exits, and I'm not getting any issues

ahh i see the Zeekers® function

ya this isn't really my place to fix, I can expose the variable that describes the minimum distance between fire exits as a config

making that 0 may fix most issues. but I can't guarantee that my interior (or any) will spawn all fire exits required by the moon. that's a skill issue on the moon modder's end or just someone making a fix mod for the slowdown

[tranquil frigate]

THAT BEING SAID

since the "bug" is comes from my mod ultimately, I added an extra failsafe in case the global limit isn't reached

it says f it to all checks and just makes it happen

[cerulean ether]

What if I removed your extra failsafe, in a perfect world everything works, and we live in a perfect world

[tranquil frigate]

in the perfect world we wouldn't have 7 fire exits

MODS

[cerulean ether]

In a perfect world my name wouldn't exist

[tranquil frigate]

NOW

CASTRATION

this one ^

[cerulean ether]

You're pointing to yourself

[tranquil frigate]

livefeed now

[granite meteor]

It's called Lethal Company OSHA regulations shouldn't be here

[tranquil frigate]

real

Wesley being paid by OSHA under the table

unbelievable

[surreal island]

More fire exits = Better for Osha no?

[cerulean ether]

It's actually pretty fake since lethal company is a video game

Ignore that I misspelled modder

[granite meteor]

Damn now I want a Moon/interior that's up to code and completely safe no matter what the generation tries

[tranquil frigate]

impossible challenge

[cerulean ether]

If you don't open the game, the code is perfect

If you do, the code turns bad

Schrodingers code

[tranquil frigate]

the code is perfect until you run it

truly

[cerulean ether]

Turns bad when observed

[tranquil frigate]

smells when used

[cerulean ether]

I'm talking about code, you're talking about yourself, can we stay on topic

[tranquil frigate]

projecting much? i was talking about you

[cerulean ether]

I project a lot of positivity yes

[tranquil frigate]

ya unlike you i project good helpful code

[cerulean ether]

Hasn't helped me

[tranquil frigate]

no one can help you

[cerulean ether]

Pls help me

[tranquil frigate]

anyway patch today

cause the best way to know if i broke something is releasing it to the wild

[cerulean ether]

Following in my footsteps, so proud

Test in release

[thick sage]

found a bug

[tranquil frigate]

logs or death

[thick sage]

https://tenor.com/view/bug-shaker-thug-shaker-thug-hunter-arting-gif-25772363

here's the log

[cerulean ether]

Bigger log than anything raph could ever provide

[tranquil frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-touhou-project-yuyuko-saigyouji-gif-25812564

[thick sage]

https://tenor.com/view/black-mesa-half-life-cute-gif-21159305

another bug

why does it neigh like a horse

[cerulean ether]

Cause raph made it

[tranquil frigate]

update pushed, mostly bug fixes

[cerulean ether]

To taunt or not to taunt

Haunted by that question every living koment

[south schooner]

koment

[tropic creek]

koment

[tranquil frigate]

no complaints my way

that means im a God coder truly

@cerulean ether suck it

[cerulean ether]

Maybe I will

Don't tempt me

[south schooner]

koment

[tropic creek]

koment

[tropic creek]

My friend successfully murdered two maids and took their knives.

We now have knives in multiplayer but I still can't figure out how to make the knife work with the weapon slot mod. What is the technical name of the maid's knife item?

The Gohei works. The Watermelon works. Every default weapon works, and so does the Toy Hammer.

I just need to figure out which name to type into the weapon slot whitelist.

[tranquil frigate]

I'll get back to you on that later

[pearl coral]

Suddenly find my game in that annoying green smoke with black screen softlock that gets fixed by disabling LC Office or Scarlet Devil Mansion. What could be the reason?

[rare needle]

I would suspect LC Office probably

SDM is fine in my pack

[pearl coral]

You think LLL update broke it?

[rare needle]

Probably, wouldn't be the first time LC Office has broken tbh and it already had some things that weren't working properly

[tranquil frigate]

most recent update?

[pearl coral]

Both SDM and LLL on last version

i was about to go to bed, so i didnt test around too much

i only downgraded the LLL to 1.4.9 which didnt help

[rare needle]

1.4.9 would break things

1.4.10 is what you should be on

[pearl coral]

yeah, i was on 1.4.10

[rare needle]

Yeah so in that case LC Office probably broke from the new version somehow

Since SDM is fine for me with 1.4.10

[tranquil frigate]

strange, it's telling my own asset did not load proper

[rare needle]

Run order shenanigans maybe?

Since he did say it's fine if one or the other is disabled

[pearl coral]

could it be some random mod updating and messing with either of them?

[tranquil frigate]

[Debug :dev.ladyalice.scarletmansion] Loading resource ScarletMansion.scarletmansion
[Debug :BepInExFasterLoadAssetBundlesPatcher] Queued recompress of "0563294a5f9c47cda5a62bf5f5ae6ecd.assetbundle" assetbundle
[Debug :BepInExFasterLoadAssetBundlesPatcher] Decompressing "0563294a5f9c47cda5a62bf5f5ae6ecd"
[Error : Unity Log] Failed to decompress data for the AssetBundle 'IO.Stream'.
[Error :dev.ladyalice.scarletmansion] Trying to load in asset but asset bundle is missing x20
[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
ScarletMansion.Assets.LoadAssetBundle () (at D:/Previous Computer/Desktop/LethalCompany Modding/ScarletMansion/ScarletMansion/ScarletMansion/Assets.cs:232)
ScarletMansion.Plugin.Awake () (at D:/Previous Computer/Desktop/LethalCompany Modding/ScarletMansion/ScarletMansion/ScarletMansion/Plugin.cs:89)
UnityEngine.GameObject:AddComponent(Type)
BepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader:DMDBepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader::Start()
UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.HDRenderPipelineAsset:OnEnable()

[rare needle]

Possible

[tranquil frigate]

maybe it's bepinexfasterloadasset

trying to decompress my assetbundle and failing

[rare needle]

Maybe but I also use that

Hmmmm

[tranquil frigate]

Anyway that's the reason. Those

[Error :dev.ladyalice.scarletmansion] Trying to load in asset but asset bundle is missing
are serious errors.

How a mod managed to do that, who knows

[cerulean ether]

https://tenor.com/view/stephen-colbert-popcorn-watching-you-gif-12895225

[tranquil frigate]

this one again

can't stop people somehow exploding my mod

[pearl coral]

disabled it, still the same issue

[tranquil frigate]

then truthfully i don't know what you tell you

that's a new error for me. i'm doing nothing unique just loading my assetbundle

[cerulean ether]

I'm also curious tbh

[tranquil frigate]

best thing i could tell you to create a new modpack with just my mod and see what happens

[cerulean ether]

Also send modpack code

[pearl coral]

I tried LC Office disabled again and SDM enabled this time, got the same issue so i guess LC office not related. Idk why earlier that helped...

[rare needle]

Send your mod string

and a pack code

Since SDM works fine for me, you might have something weird in there

[pearl coral]

019501d6-307f-ee9e-b578-39c098bb0993

[pearl coral]

Either i fucked up somewhere somehow or one of like 15 updates in the last several hours broke SDM

[pearl coral]

works fine, no green smoke of death

[tranquil frigate]

at least it's not your pc

[pearl coral]

yeah, forgot how quick the game loads without 200 mods 😭

[tranquil frigate]

go back to the original mod pack, and like disable half of the mods

see if my mod works, if it doesn't, remove another half and check again

use that approach to narrow down which set of mods is the likely culprit

[pearl coral]

When i switched to my "experimental" (just more bloated lol) modpack that i didnt use since morning or maybe even last night, there were 13 updates. One of them is the cause prolly

LLL related mods at least. I doubt LethalPhones or Cruiser_Additions are related

[tranquil frigate]

none of them look like it imo

well CodeRebirth is on there, I heard it's coded like shit

[rare needle]

Might be Piggy's Variety Mod or Snguine

[pearl coral]

the galls seduced your assets to not load

[rare needle]

MapImprovements also maybe?

[pearl coral]

i think i disabled sanguine and it didnt help

[rare needle]

I'd recommend disabling Piggy's and MapImprovements then

and if it's fixed try seeing which one it is

[pearl coral]

i will quickly do that, hope it doesnt give green smoke of death screen and then hop in bed, it's pretty late

otherwise i will check in the morning

yep, now it works

[tranquil frigate]

that's wierd as hell

[rare needle]

Now figure out which one it was

lol

[tranquil frigate]

yes so i can send an angry message their way

[rare needle]

Just enable one, if it doesn't repro, then you know which it is

I would try Piggy's first that one updated recently

[pearl coral]

yes, i am just waiting for the very fast loading to complete

Piggy and Sanguine on, loaded fine.

i will try MapImprovements now

Went to Sanguine to see if interior generates and plays fine before i do that. Discovered a cool new addition

[tranquil frigate]

a lot of work went into that

[pearl coral]

https://tenor.com/view/praise-good-job-frieren-beyond-journey's-end-sousou-no-frieren-anime-gif-12053039777437670320

[pearl coral]

also loaded fine, what 🗿

[tranquil frigate]

perhaps both together causes issues?

and causes issues for my mod?

if true wild

[pearl coral]

i specifically didnt disable piggy's mod

and sanguine

and checked by creating a new save file each time

LC Office now

i should have been recording the process, now you will all think this was me hallucinating from sleep deprivation

it all loaded fine, i dont know what to say

[tranquil frigate]

sleep and maybe the your brain will subconciously find the problem in its sleep

[pearl coral]

like why tf did it happen before and now it decided to load fine

[tranquil frigate]

we'll just never know

[pearl coral]

so yeah, Sanguine with SDM generated fine, same with Scallg with LC_Office..

Well i guess everyone is happy because no one has to fix anything xd

~~and i am not crazy either, logs don't lie ~~

[pearl coral]

Sometimes better not to..

[tranquil frigate]

you drove me crazy

im not happy

death next time i see you

enjoy your sleep though

[pearl coral]

[pearl coral]

Sorry about that ;D

[pearl coral]

Thanks and goodnight, i will be going now

[pale mortar]

Greetings.

Initially, there was a report claiming that LGU wouldn't act correctly with Enhanced Monsters (#1178407269994594435 message). After seeing its logs (#1178407269994594435 message), there was indeed an error coming from Enhanced Monsters, which then got reported later in their thread (#1212448321017483275 message).

After discussing what can cause such issues and testing the previously reported profile (#1212448321017483275 message), it seems the enemies introduced by this mod (the knight and maid enemies, I only know about the knight) do not have an EnemyType object associated to them which was unexpected to enhanced monsters and causing it to not initialize correctly.

I do want to add that I do remember seeing one of these enemies (the knight) work as expected so I don't know if you are interested in fixing this issue or not since it is working so it's up to you how you want to approach this. I am just interested in reporting issues to where they could be caused, considering that I do not play this game any longer due to lack of free time to do so.

(Sorry for long text, lol)

[tranquil frigate]

Since I'm the only fool creating enemytypes on startup, I better just do it right

I'll release a patch that fixes that

[pale mortar]

Okidoki.

[cerulean ether]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-silly-car-car-stare-10-thousand-yard-stare-10-thousand-yard-gif-14200271775968563996

[rare needle]

@tranquil frigate Caught this in a client's log 🤔

[unique vault]

@tranquil frigate found the jukebox in your interior a week ago or so and that has somehow now turned into a massive rabbithole of finding and listening to dozens of touhou remixes in a style i had no idea i even liked until now... thank you i think?

i dont really know whats happening or what touhou even is but this music is awesome, the music box/waltz remixes are so pretty

[tropic creek]

Welcome to the Rabbit Hole. I've been here since high school.

And while music plays a HUGE role in Touhou, there's more to it

Like, I cannot name a single IP that has spawned more fanmade remixes and rearrangements than Touhou.

[dawn bramble]

Rule ⑨ of the Internet: If it exists, there is a Touhou crossover with it

[unique vault]

honestly that sounds accurate, just the other day i was playing a random minecraft modpack i found and there was this shockingly in depth touhou maid mod in it

[tranquil frigate]

You enjoy looking at your friends logs to torture me?

I'll look into later, latest build?

[tranquil frigate]

Welcome to the Touhou psyops

[unique vault]

https://tenor.com/view/yay-yippee-clap-fuuka-yamagishi-gif-11473661067883569119

[alpine goblet]

got an issue when playing in scarlet basement, every player had a different fire exit placement, but only mine worked

a client had a fire exit (unusable for them) but i saw a sofa when they saw the door

it was on rend btw

heres the full logs of the game if needed :

[tranquil frigate]

@alpine goblet i need to see your friend's logs too

my brain says seed desync but I don't know where it could have started

who makes lethalcasino I'm going to strangle them real quick

[alpine goblet]

no clue, but it was only the fire exits

[alpine goblet]

asking them rn

the friend who saw the door instead of a sofa :

[tranquil frigate]

my guess is this error

[20:45:31.7513756] [Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
PrivateAccesser.GetPrivateField[T] (System.Object obj, System.String name) (at <410142835af649b88e699a740994158d>:IL_0010)
TagDoor+NewDoorLock.AwakePostfix (DoorLock __instance) (at <410142835af649b88e699a740994158d>:IL_0000)
(wrapper dynamic-method) DoorLock.DMDDoorLock::Awake(DoorLock)
UnityEngine.Object:DMDUnityEngine.Object::Instantiate(Object, Vector3, Quaternion, Transform)
RoundManager:DMDRoundManager::SpawnSyncedProps(RoundManager)
<LoadNewLevelWait>d__131:MoveNext()
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine:InvokeMoveNext(IEnumerator, IntPtr)

but i don't konw what mod that could be

[alpine goblet]

no idea

[tranquil frigate]

do you have any mods that rework doors

[alpine goblet]

erhmm

i dont think so

the only things related to doors are the 180° fix from buttery

[tranquil frigate]

cause this mod seems to imply that the doorlocks are being replaced by their custom modded doors

including my custom doors

[alpine goblet]

you want to check my modpack ?

maybe youll find something

[tranquil frigate]

sure why not

[alpine goblet]

oh wait

cant i just disable this ?

[tranquil frigate]

nah since that's just appearance

[alpine goblet]

crap

0195255c-a85a-a928-21b9-7228eb8d848e

[tranquil frigate]

link me your mod pack and ill take a quick glander

[rare needle]

It was yeah, it wasn't to torture you lol I was just asking for their SQLite cus I was trying to look if she got any new errors or not since we pulled and added some mods

[tranquil frigate]

btw @rare needle that error you got, did anything weird happen when it occured?

wanna know if it's a fix-now or fix-later issue

[rare needle]

I didn't notice anything weird happen in game personally, I would just guess the statues are having problems in the Basement interior?

Or maybe it tried to spawn one when we didn't have SDM

[tranquil frigate]

maybe, i did heavily test the new revenants

maybe i didnt actually test my regular knights

[tranquil frigate]

could be

[alpine goblet]

seems like i cant have the other 2's logs, sorry

[tranquil frigate]

its cool

[alpine goblet]

but yeah they all saw the fire at different places, if it can helps

[tranquil frigate]

the error has to be that secret door mod

just gotta figure out which

[alpine goblet]

the hell

secret door

[tranquil frigate]

i mean the mod that messes with doors

[alpine goblet]

oh ok ok

[tranquil frigate]

its secret cause this the first time i hear of it causing issues

[opal wigeon]

Why does throwing in doorlock’s awake even cause a notable problem?

Shouldn’t that be like isolated

[tranquil frigate]

I suppose you are right but I have no leads currently

[opal wigeon]

Ye

[tropic creek]

EYY MY BOI TARTARIC ACID WORKED ON THAT

[unique vault]

i have no idea what that means but yes 😭

[tropic creek]

Tartaric Acid is the name of the Minecraft modder that worked on the Touhou Maid mod

I'm in a couple servers with him.

[unique vault]

ohhh i see, thats cool!

[tropic creek]

@tranquil frigate @unique vault You two ought to see this Minecraft Touhou mod server that I'm in. TeamNightclipse has been working to try bringing back some old Danmaku mods to MC again.

[tranquil frigate]

sorry not much of a gamer. I literally only play games like dota and deadlock and argue with russians

[alpine goblet]

@tranquil frigate sup, do you want another log from yesterday ?

[tropic creek]

I hope it doesn't hurt as much as that brick you're throwing

[alpine goblet]

immersivescrap's brick is overpowered

[tranquil frigate]

Post them

[tranquil frigate]

same thing as before, the same error

plz share your mod pack so I find the culprit

[alpine goblet]

i already sent it yesterday

019529f8-9292-e99b-ff2f-3bc6b7e24bf4

[tranquil frigate]

oh my bad how did i not see it

[alpine goblet]

lol

[tranquil frigate]

Was a message just posted or am I losing it?

[cerulean ether]

you're losing it

but i also did get a notif here

[tropic creek]

[elder python]

Yeah nah, sometimes when I drop by here, I get a notification for channels I've been to, and it's a message I've seen like 20 times already. Dunno why this server does that

[timid surge]

probably someone posting and then the message being immediately deleted (be it by themselves or a mod)

[tropic creek]

It was Koishi

She said something, but since nobody was here to hear it, she disappeared, along with her messages

[dawn bramble]

Now if it was Koishee, she'd eat this channel on a sandwich (with cheese)

[tropic creek]

🥪

[sterile folio]

does the gohei do anything special?

[tranquil frigate]

It makes a flashing red noise when an enemy is nearby, that's all

[sterile folio]

neato

havent played on this mod in ages theres so much new stuff

anything special with its spawning?
noticed one on the ground when i had an all same scrap day

[tranquil frigate]

The basement variant has a guaranteed gohei spawn in the entrance since it also has a vent

That's it, it's a normal piece of loot with normal spawn logic

[sterile folio]

yea thats where i found it
thanks, good stuff

[dawn bramble]

Tempted to try out both SDM-themed moons and having one be the regular mansion interior and the other as the basement

[sterile folio]

game breaks when attempting to load the sdm, copied the red part out of logs

strangely was working fine earlier today and i dont think ive made changes to my mods??

[tranquil frigate]

it's cause somehow there is a custom enemy in your modpack that has an empty EnemyType

[sterile folio]

got it, think it might be because i had an enemy enabled then disabled its mod?

[cerulean ether]

do you have blackmesa?

[sterile folio]

nope

[cerulean ether]

i dont remember if zaggy ever gave those guys enemytypes

nvm then

[tranquil frigate]

couldn't tell you the problemic mod, just gotta find it

I should add a null check there, but that's a not me issue right now

[sterile folio]

any decent way to find the mod or do i just bruteforce turning them off until one works

[tranquil frigate]

bruteforce

[sterile folio]

would it be possible for a disabled mod to be it?
the only changes ive made to my pack since the last time i had the interior working was trying out waterwraith, which i currently have disabled

• a few updated mods, but none of them should be adding enemies

[sterile folio]

well
i turned waterwraith back on and it works now

thanks for the help

[tranquil frigate]

that's weird, if the mod is disabled it shouldn't be added to the game

[sterile folio]

the only other difference would be me playing solo vs with a friend
but surely that cant be it???

[cerulean ether]

Wheres the update that update that does the update

[alpine goblet]

@tranquil frigate fyi, theres a small proble with your interior on march, the additional fire exit are not visible for the clients but are still usable for them

so theyre invisible

[tranquil frigate]

das a weird one

@alpine goblet post your mod list

it sounds like a generation desync issue which is fun to figure out

[alpine goblet]

01959f50-a556-24be-8779-171311c03c2d

[tranquil frigate]

ill try and find some time this weekend to find all the bugs reported to me

[alpine goblet]

is there a way to reduce the fps impact of sdm ?

it's the laggiest interior in my pack

[tranquil frigate]

cullfactory is the best performance mod for my interior as far as I know. nothing will that beat that

[alpine goblet]

i do have it

[tranquil frigate]

I'm not sure if cullfactory has an option to cull even more rooms for certain interiors

You can also try the pathfinding lag fix v2 or something like that. My map is big so pathfinding would become expensive

[alpine goblet]

i also have it

[tranquil frigate]

Then that's really it, you can set the light preset to dark and see if that helps. Lighting is expensive so a darker map would be more performant

How much idk but it's worth to try out

[alpine goblet]

ok ok

i'll test

[tropic creek]

Typically I don't get any lag when using this interior, so maybe it's a processor thing

[tranquil frigate]

It's most likely the person's computer ya but trying to see what we can do

[alpine goblet]

i mean

my computer is not weak

would be weird if my pc is the bottleneck lol

[tropic creek]

See if you can allocate any more memory or processing to Lethal Company, or make sure any background apps are closed.

[alpine goblet]

i can hit more than 100 fps in other interiors

but i hit 50fps in scarlet devil

for whatever reason, even with cullfactory

[tropic creek]

50fps isn't anything to sneeze at. At least it isn't 20

[alpine goblet]

ik

but i play with people with lower end hardware so i'm still worrying about it

[tropic creek]

Oh, so your friends have the weaker PCs, I gotcha...

[alpine goblet]

yup

[opal wigeon]

Dunno how deep you want to get into this Raph but if you wanted to debug this you could make a build that has keybind to toggle off all the lights in the interior

then they could see if thats the issue

[tranquil frigate]

in that case, something else to try is to just make my dungeon smaller. Try the BitMoreLoot preset. My dungeon is front loaded with tiles cause of the alternate main paths. The BitMoreLoot preset will generate 1 less alternate main path, thus less tiles, thus more performant maybe.

[tranquil frigate]

Not as free as I used to be sadlys

[alpine goblet]

how about default ?

shouldnt it works like the vanilla manor ?

[opal wigeon]

oh i feel that dw

[tranquil frigate]

If you want default dungeon generation use the Vanilla preset

[alpine goblet]

i mean, you're talking about main paths

[tranquil frigate]

My dungeon was designed to be clustered. It won't feel the same as vanilla

[alpine goblet]

ok i see

[tranquil frigate]

The vanilla manor has one main path like any other vanilla dungeon

[alpine goblet]

will try that tomorrow

i'll also try a profile with only sdm, just in case its an incompatibility

[tropic creek]

What's tough about procedural generation is that it's hard to line up a perfect "circle" in rooms unless you just standardize the measurement of every room so it can potentially match up to any other, but then you'd get some sorta grid going on

So I imagine you get some funky spaghetti before it links up to another path

[opal wigeon]

Ideally dungeons should be perfectly aligned but it's a pain in the ass to do

my unfinished remake of castle had perfect allignment and had some very interesting results

100% needed for proper loopbacks though as you said

[tranquil frigate]

Your assets also have to be designed to be modular enough to achieve this perfect alignment

[opal wigeon]

In a proper dev environment there would be proper tools to help do this

[tropic creek]

Would it be feasible to just design one BIG sprawling room that could potentially stand on its own and use special dungeon generation to make sure this room only spawns once per moon?

[opal wigeon]

you can limit rooms to only spawn once

[tropic creek]

I mean, it's not much of a labyrinth, but at least it's a level

For people who enjoy concrete design that stays the same throughout instead of random generation, it would be a neat idea to play with

Maybe a series of two or three big and open rooms like this

[alpine goblet]

seems like the culprit was surprisingly cullfactory

i dont know what was the issue, but i deleted the config, regenerated it, and now i gained around 40 fps in scarlet basement

[tranquil frigate]

Weird

But it's fixed

All good

[alpine goblet]

yeah

[dapper pine]

Is the Gohei effected by LateGameUpgrades?

[tranquil frigate]

I'm not sure, probably not but idk

It's a shovel, but i don't remember if I coded to be based on the shovel (would probably copy from LGU) or coded to be like a shovel (completely unique and not work with LGU)

[dapper pine]

Dang it

[scenic grove]

is this a problem?

[tranquil frigate]

That's a new error

Post your mod pack I'll try and take a look at some point

[scenic grove]

i can't post my pack, I do everything manually

[tranquil frigate]

Then that would make more sense

Make sure all my .dlls are up to date

[scenic grove]

i keep everything sorted

they are

maybe because if my directories

[tranquil frigate]

Double check. That error makes me think that the main ScarletMansion.dll, or whatever it was called, is not up to date

[scenic grove]

of

okay I will check

[tranquil frigate]

Oh no wait you right

Wait

basement.png
foyer.png
Are these png files in the same place as the basement.dll and foyer.dll

[scenic grove]

no png files

[tranquil frigate]

That's the bug

You didn't include the png files

[scenic grove]

ohhh

I just pulled the dlls lol

user error lmao thank you

[tranquil frigate]

🫡

[cerulean ether]

i have a bug report

[tranquil frigate]

No you dont

[cerulean ether]

No i dont

[tranquil frigate]

Exactly

[cerulean ether]

[cerulean ether]

i dont know the franchise well, is this touhou

[tranquil frigate]

Probably

Never played the games like a true touhou fan

||joke||

[tropic creek]

https://tenor.com/view/solid-snake-solid-snake-not-metal-gear-solid-gif-14480942659066849172

[cerulean ether]

Basically.the same thing

[elder python]

I can confirm this is Touhou. The latest game adds Messi as a guest character

[mellow tendon]

That game! Brings back memories

[fallow prairie]

CHICKEN INVADERS!?! WHAT!?

XD

[cerulean ether]

it's been a while sincei played it

[feral shale]

Can't believe I didn't make a small review on this mod yet.
I'm not the most knowledgeable about Touhou but I can definitely see all the love and care put inside the manor, the scraps and the custom entities.
Having lights customisation is nice but I think the monochrome is the best one, really nails the "time as stopped" feel x)
The basement was also a nice addition.
Imo it's one of the best interior mod.
Whatever is planned next I will definitely try it out 👍
Cirno/10 10/10

[tranquil frigate]

Appreciate the comments. I'll be nice to update SDM again once Zeekers actually pushes an update (forces me to update my mods)

[feral shale]

I don't think a huge update is planned in the near future so it's the best time to have a blast with custom moons/interiors imo x)
but I bet it's a pain to find and fix everything getting screwed over by updates as a modder x_x

[opal wigeon]

In theory that should be me not zeekerss 😛

[tranquil frigate]

What chu mean

[opal wigeon]

in theory a lethal update shouldnt fuck your stuff up

depending on what i need to change to adjust to them tho 😛

though you might be doing some extra weird stuff that could be hit

[tranquil frigate]

My code doesn't touch LLL much

But the dungenplus stuff touches lethal company a fair bit

[opal wigeon]

Oh forsure but that's usually the hotspot for basegame changes that could disrupt content expansion mods

Usually he doesn't mess with too much otherwise

[tranquil frigate]

True

Im happy Zeekers is afraid of code, which means he'll probably never touch the dungen code

[granite meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-coffin-world-wrestling-entertainment-gif-17903370

[feral shale]

Well... that aged poorly...

[tranquil frigate]

it looks like my mod didn't explode with the update

besides the interior cam being different

I could do the Zeekers route, but I hate the Zeekers route. Ima make a shader

[cerulean ether]

i curse you to 1000 zeekers routes

[tranquil frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/fumo-koishi-touhou-brutal-ball-gif-26675526

[tranquil frigate]

Uploaded map radar for my dungeon to be pink

It's been 4 months since an update so in case I messed up the upload process, let me know.

[rare needle]

Good to see you back, been wondering if you plan to update any other textures and stuff in the interiors at some point and make it so the Christmas trees in the foyer only appear during the holidays lol

[tranquil frigate]

Very much probably not. I'm too busy

[rare needle]

Understandable tbh

[vivid wolf]

what the heck is "feeding" the knife??

My friend killed themselves with it and now we are confused what it does?

[spare ore]

User takes damage and powers up the knife

I think

[tranquil frigate]

you feed the knife with your health. the knife's next attack can then deal 50 damage (it's a oneshot)

it feeds by setting your health to 15 (if above 100), then marks you for death. if you try to feed the knife while marked for death, regardless of your health, you die. if you had less than 20 health, it just kills you. marked for death resets on a new day.

you know if you have less than 20 health since your top-left hud will be bloody

there's other mechanics in my dungeon that can also set your health to 15 and mark you for death. that being the void sinkhole (with the eyes) and the ghost statue

otherwise it's just a normal knife. you don't HAVE to feed it

[amber osprey]

What might cause the interior to desync for two players? Like we get two different SDM layouts and only mine has loot

[tranquil frigate]

I had that happen with my friends once, but we were also having errors like crazy (the soft-mask error).

Truly the only thing I could say is to make sure that the configs are the same.

[amber osprey]

Oh does it not use host configs for everyone?

[tranquil frigate]

it 100% should, but LLL may not use host configs (which could be the potential cause of desyncs)

it's possible that my host config syncing doesn't work since I rarely test it

[rare needle]

I've always noticed I ran into weird issues with tile generations and such if I didn't regen the configs after updating the mod, so it's possible they just need to do that too lol

[tranquil frigate]

I don't understand since I didn't make any config changes. Why would it need to be regen'd

If I knew I answer I could maybe stop these issues

[summer kraken]

Is this mod still being maintained? I've had issues with monsters and scrap not despawning at the end of the round

Before v70 there was another mod that fixed it, (I think it was called EnemyFix) but it's broken now

[tranquil frigate]

You'd have to link your mod pack and I may be able to look at it at some point

This is the first time i heard about enemy/scrap despawning issues so I think its another mod causing issues

[rare needle]

This likely isn't a SDM problem and is caused by another mod

[elder python]

So something unusual happened and I'm not sure if it's just incredibly rare, or a potential desync waiting to happen in multiplayer

[tranquil frigate]

Uhh I cannot begin to explain what the hell happened there

Two different dungeons loaded or something?

Some mod messing with my dungeon flow setup?

[tranquil frigate]

Whatever happening with you is a major mod conflict somewhere

[elder python]

I am completely lost as to what happened, honestly

I'm trying to see if I can replicate it again

[elder python]

Ran into it again, but it was just the normal mansion this time

[celest tide]

Hello, I am currently looking through the files of the mod, and I wanted to know if there was any way to decompile the assets of the mod ? More specifically the 3d models

[tranquil frigate]

There is no public files for the 3d assets. What are you looking for in particular?

[celest tide]

A bit of everything, but specifically the differents tiles

[tranquil frigate]

For what reason? I don't mind, but it's a random ask ya know

[celest tide]

Curiosity mixed with a want to start learning and studying how interiors mods are made, I won't be doing any now, but I'd like to start looking at it since I have a college work that needs me to touch unity and blender (and your interior is one of my favorites)

[tranquil frigate]

I appreciate your interest in my interior. I can share but my interior may not be a good study source. I break a lot of conventional lc interior setups since I have my own custom solutions.

Ill see how I can share my project, but I don't know how well it will work out.

[celest tide]

Thanks a lot

[cerulean ether]

@tranquil frigate i might have a bone to pick with you

i have this patch here, that has worked for me on other interiors and moons, but not on the moon Sanguine that has the sdm foyer and basement interiors, basically the Generator's dungeonFlow is null

and i have no idea if this is an interior issue or a moon issue

[rare needle]

Does it repro on other moons like Seichi or Acidir?

[cerulean ether]

you would've not been able to land if that was the case

[rare needle]

If it only happens with Sanguine I would be more likely to check Tolian’s other moons as well

He has had some odd ball issues in the past though I do love his stuff

And I’m sure if you point it out to him he will fix it lol

[tranquil frigate]

Why are you injecting into my beautiful tilesets >:(

I cant explain to you why sanguine of all moons causes issues, talk to sanguine man not me

[copper mirage]

Curious question. What is the file name for the Gohei and the Maid's Knife if I want to enable it into the ReservedWeaponSlot?

[copper mirage]

Nevermind, figured it out

Also my friend tried to attack me with the Maid's knife but he died. Is this normal?

[tranquil frigate]

Yes

[tranquil frigate]

I wanted to discourage team kill

But also thought it be funny to die from it

[cerulean ether]

i forgor to respond, but this is just an api :p

ill insert all of facility into sdm

[tranquil frigate]

Did my dungeon like it? Was it Sanguine's fault? It is my fault?

Dont take me back to the code mines I beg you

Unless I have to fix it

[cerulean ether]

i have no idea tbh, i dont even know how a moon could edit the RuntimeDungeon's Generator's DungeonFlow to be null

[tranquil frigate]

Thats what sanguine does?

[cerulean ether]

does it?

i didnt see the mod to have any code

[cerulean ether]

all i was getting from this was a null ref when other moons/interiors tested didnt have it, i havent really tested it much more though since i forgor

[tranquil frigate]

So probably another mod?

[cerulean ether]

doubt, the testing profile had pretty much nothing in it that would do that, ill give it a couple more tries in a minute just to see and make sure

[tranquil frigate]

🫡

[rare needle]

Me when I wanna say since we have no idea when LLL's update will be I wonder if this is fixable on your end til then where it warning spams for Wesley's interior

[tranquil frigate]

😰

[rare needle]

It is definitely something that needs fixed on LLL's side ideally though, I've had talks with pacoito XD

[tranquil frigate]

code that i know that i should fix but i can't be bothered

[rare needle]

But Batby is busy with Uni and other stuff

[tranquil frigate]

same

[cerulean ether]

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-git-gud-hollow-knight-gif-487380231553167495

[rare needle]

LMAO that is a mood though

I'd love to see it fixed though if it's an easy patch to do, but I 100% feel your mood too tbh

[tranquil frigate]

for xu, ill fix it

a real lc breathen

[cerulean ether]

one day ill quit, today is just not that day

[rare needle]

It will be amazing to no longer have Wesley's interior gatekeep anymore on boots

lol

It's funny but also annoying

[cerulean ether]

https://tenor.com/view/elden-ring-revenant-nightreign-doll-elden-ring-nightreign-gif-6270020836602970452

[rare needle]

😂

Citadel is a goated interior though after he added the variants

my favorite is still the Lava one

I love it so much

[cerulean ether]

💀 i just tried the moon without my mod and sdm and it didnt load hahahaha, interior fails to generate cuz of some weirdness it looks like

i dont think its a you thing i think its a moon thing though

also nice Previous Computer, maybe the Current Computer knows best

[tranquil frigate]

im guessing that there's an empty dungeongenerator in the moon?

[cerulean ether]

is that what would do it? cuz i have no idea, i could try checking for that though

moon generates without sdm installed so ill try and object search for dungeon generators maybe

[tranquil frigate]

I have code that gets the dungenplus extender script based on the current dungeonFlow in DungeonGenerator, before DungeonGenerator.Generate() is called. It has max priority.

I don't know if perhaps you are messing with the dungeonFlow before or around DungeonGenerator.Generate()

[cerulean ether]

hmm i dont touch it or replace it nah, plus my mod was off when that exception occured

[tranquil frigate]

that's really fucked then

[cerulean ether]

weirdly, whether that error happens or doesnt seem seem to matter too much, unless an sdm interior is picked?

if its a vanilla interior generating it generates it with that error

but not for sdm

[rare needle]

I imagine in Multiplayer the interior will desync though

[tranquil frigate]

DungeonFlow may be a getter/setter, so you could add a patch that checks what is setting it to null

nm, DungeonFlow is a value, don't know if you add getters/setters

[cerulean ether]

nah, nothing like that

is it normal for moon scenes to have the dungeon generator in their scene?

okay yeah it is cuz i see vanilla moons also have it

[tranquil frigate]

moons should have a dungeon generator

But I can't remember what correctly sets a moon's intiail dungeon flow

[cerulean ether]

i am noticing a difference in runtime generators

this is turned on in sanguine

but not in vanilla moons (atleast experimentation)

[rare needle]

Silly Tolian

[cerulean ether]

hmm how can i change this variable before it gets read though lol

ig ill prefix start

[tranquil frigate]

I could also check for null like a better programmar

[rare needle]

This is ideally something Tolian should push an update for for his moon tbh, but ig it doesn't hurt to have DawnLib ensure moons don't setup wrong flags

[cerulean ether]

i mean idek if its a wrong flag rn

[rare needle]

I think it is since you got an error on Dungeon Generation, and Tolian's moons have been known to cause desynced interiors across clients in the past which he has fixed several times

which is why I imagine that error might also cause it

lol

[rare needle]

Pats your head

[cerulean ether]

exception no longer throws but uh ur interior just doesnt generate lol

[tranquil frigate]

lul

[cerulean ether]

decent amount of tiles colliding eh?

[tranquil frigate]

strange

but probably normal

my dungeon is special

[cerulean ether]

so special it doesnt wanna let me in

i have the million debug logs if you care for em

also im either hallucinating or zeekerss added flies that fly around your helmet occasionally

okay they do exist, im not crazy

[rare needle]

I never even noticed this lol, are you sure it's Zeekerss though? Might just be a Sanguine thing

[cerulean ether]

might be, im noticing quite a lot of em

yeah ok its sanguine

[rare needle]

Yeah prolly a thing that happens on Sanguine cus I feel like I would have noticed it otherwise with all my hours

lol

[rare needle]

Got ya XD

[cerulean ether]

imma go to dine and generate the foyer and basement to see whether sdm is the borked one

i wish i had scalet open vent

[tranquil frigate]

love to see it

[cerulean ether]

it did fail like 10 times before it succeeded, but atleast it succeeded on dine

ig maybe the issue is a size one? dunno

[tranquil frigate]

my dungeon has a high fail rate

[cerulean ether]

make it study up

[tranquil frigate]

which is why I did the optimization changes cause my dungeon sucks and needs the help

[cerulean ether]

im also gonna try and figure out where the heck you are registering your enemies, cuz i cant find em in the network prefab list smh

[tranquil frigate]

uhh, good question

[cerulean ether]

this is where i find out you put the enemyai component somewhere near the bottom of the hierarchy/not on the root

[tranquil frigate]

they are added in mod load

It's the only place I load in my enemy in network prefab list

[cerulean ether]

hmm, but they are added via lethallib right? so they should get put into the network prefab list, otherwise there'd be some desyncs

[tranquil frigate]

they added with lethallib

but no level has my enemy, I retroactively add them when the level/moon is loading

[cerulean ether]

wait you're doing register enemy on startofround's prefix awake?

[tranquil frigate]

i register them as enemies in StartOfRound, but they exist at network objects in mod load

[cerulean ether]

yeah but do you ever added them to the unity network prefab list?

not from what i can see atleast

[tranquil frigate]

they are and should be added

      foreach(var e in networkObjectList.enemies) {
        Enemies.RegisterEnemy(e, 0, Levels.LevelTypes.None, null, null);
        NetworkPrefabs.RegisterNetworkPrefab(e.enemyPrefab);
      }

[cerulean ether]

oh, yeah okay i missed that cuz of intellisense, whoops, i forgot from how long ago i used LL that you need to run RegisterNetworkPrefab 💀

[cerulean ether]

i think u need to disable Generate On Start at the top

i believe base game just calls generate

@tranquil frigate do the prefabs not have an enemyai on em at the time or smthn?

[tranquil frigate]

They should have an EnemyAI

knight.enemy.GetComponentInChildren<EnemyAI>().enemyType = type;

Here I'm even reading the EnemyAI script in StartOfRound

[cerulean ether]

the EnemyType SO isn't there apparently

[tranquil frigate]

OH

you gonna hate me

I fill in the EnemyType at StartOfRound

Since I directly copy it from the enemies I'm mimicking

Knight copies Springman's type
Maid copies Butler's type

[cerulean ether]

you're right about the hate part smh

you cant just make the enemytype and add it to the enemyai before registering it?

[tranquil frigate]

well ya but :)

[cerulean ether]

smh

[tranquil frigate]

if you do your registering after StartOfRound.Awake.Prefix, then it would work :)

You know, this isn't the first time I pissed someone off with my null EnemyType in my EnemyAI

[cerulean ether]

i would not be surprised

i already do my registering post startofround.awake.prefix cuz LLL takes its sweet time adding in custom moons anyway

i preferred to collect the enemytypes that early cuz it was during the loading sequence but i can move it up

[tranquil frigate]

appreciate it :^)

apologies for your pain

[cerulean ether]

tis alright

your interior still gonna have problems generating obv but u already knew that :p

[tranquil frigate]

🤙

[dusty sparrow]

disabling Generate On Start works

[cerulean ether]

noice

[rare needle]

Do any of your other moons have this flag on or was it just Sanguine?

[dusty sparrow]

All of my moons have Generate On Start enabled. it’s been on since their release, so it’s most likely related only to SDM, maybe caused by another mod or the new game version

[rare needle]

You probably could toggle it off for all of them to fix the Dungeon errors that occur when you don't get SDM, since iirc that flag typically isn't used for Vanilla Moons or other Custom moons based off what Xu and Raph were saying earlier

Cus I wonder now if that's been one of the settings that has related to the odd interior desyncs you dealt with in the past on your moons 😂 Can't say for sure though

[dusty sparrow]

ahah, maybe

[rare needle]

@tranquil frigate Wtf is this tile on the monitor?

☠️

[tranquil frigate]

You know

[south schooner]

👁️

[tranquil frigate]

Btw, are the pink monitor colors acceptable? Never gotten to really test it

[rare needle]

Yeah I like it lol, but I'm curious what was going on with that tile I would assume it's a bug haha

[tranquil frigate]

I dont leave bugs

[rare needle]

XD

[rare needle]

Btw I notice SDM is quite laggy on Acidir, but I don't really have the issue with other interiors do you got any idea why?

[tranquil frigate]

Idk, acidir a big map?

[rare needle]

Lol yeah it looks like it

[lean trellis]

What the FUCK