#Dark Lancer

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tribal iris
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yes

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as long as u have leg E and leggy Z , u are fine

wild swan
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i see thanks

pallid gulch
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anyone found any tricks yet to get out of combat faster? as its annoying seeing every other class run past me for example after a monarch to one of the other bosses and I'm still stuck in combat for double the time even after switching out of demon form, same for swapping channel on a fieldboss

quaint spire
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You'll be stuck in combat for roughly 15 seconds whenever u press it

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If the boss is about to die, don't use it

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You'll get out of combat much faster

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A trick I learned on field bosses,

vast tangle
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Don't use E :p and if you go from leggy E to purple E, you Will earn 2sec :p

lean ermine
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The 2 seconds is like 4-6 lmbs of extra cd

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As well as 4 dark chi

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It’s a good upgrade

tribal iris
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think he meant for msp

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so u get out of combact faster

quaint spire
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Ya just when u go kill monarch then people go for mini bosses, or being able to swap to other channel faster for field boss

mystic herald
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bruh you just saved me a years worth of headaches

still jackal
pallid gulch
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floor 45 ZeePump

dull birch
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why u dont pick pasives?

tribal iris
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hes built diff

quaint spire
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Who needs passive when u gigawhale lancer chad

lean ermine
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I love me some floor 45

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Does anyone know if the leg soulcore is just a once time clear bonus or is it a small drop chance as well?

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I spammed like 15 runs but nothing so far. just shinmas and purple cores

tribal iris
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once

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f45 is so anti 4/4

jolly meadow
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if summ can clear lancer with half theyr skill can do it

tribal iris
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ya i did clear with jst lmb spam kekw

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but its annoying that i cant use my main skill

young oasis
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do i got it right ?

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oops wrong image

tribal iris
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dont think u need farthstrike spear

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do u have enough crit rate?

young oasis
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no idea

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ill have 9% from cards

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and later thatll be 14%

young oasis
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this what im wrokgin with for now ill figure out the rest alter

young oasis
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any lancer need these?

queen glacier
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It is tough to decide which card set would be the best for 20 costs

lean ermine
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I think the buffed WB cardset for 2 cost is amazing to slot
In

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I think my cardset rn is pretty close to BIS

tribal iris
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bis set for pure lmb piercing dragon will be unwavering convinction + wb 2 piece set instead of 2 JSY set.

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hmmpepe new zulia+rahu + wb 2 piece is also insanely strong

dry mauve
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slash to 48 or piercing dragon (84)higher?

tribal iris
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piercing

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slash 48 is only good when u are super overcapped like 200+

dry mauve
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i got legend demonic energy recharge thing

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anything else i should get legend?

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or just focus piercing?

tribal iris
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piercing all the way

dry mauve
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thanks

tribal iris
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another 4/4 player bites the dust peepolost

lean ermine
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Im not crazy

wild plinth
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lol no ur not

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But it’s very small

queen glacier
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nice build

pallid gulch
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I want I want

tribal iris
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mystic

lean flume
pallid gulch
tribal iris
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3 weeks ago

pallid gulch
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nooooooooo

toxic vortex
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GREAT ALCNER #ZENITH

zenith vine
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wtb lancer rmb ( glaive swell ) NA or any lancer book cheap price pls

pure mural
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Any can show in yast tree site what are the optional skills if i have 4 leg skill,rest purple?

tribal iris
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probably 2 lmb E Z

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as leggys

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1 spinning slash purple, rest everything on purple lmbs

pure mural
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thx ❤️

pure mural
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yeah seems like good too

pure mural
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now i need just choose 😄

tribal iris
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hmmpepe counter book isnt needed at all on main gear, u can have it 2ndary msp gear or something.

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base counter already resists the entire single hit.

young oasis
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Thats interesting

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I must've missed that text when looking at the skill descriptions

still jackal
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key word is single hit

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you wont get iframes

tribal iris
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^

young oasis
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Thats fine

still jackal
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So you press it on the hit that will yeet you

tribal iris
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i guess stuff like bibong and machi, will require u to press it exactly on the 2nd hit of spin when book counter can press on 1st hit and still be fine

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but definitely playable just fine if u are good with timing it.

young oasis
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Ye

pure mural
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and what about glavie swell and slash? somebody use it on purple only,somebody on lega with 30 stack

young oasis
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Depends on your crit rate tbh

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I think the only thing needed tho

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For low critters is 4 purple

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Give you emergency demonic energy and just tab back in

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Also default rmb also give demon every 2 hit

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So theres that as well

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No need for a book

tribal iris
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Glaive needs exactly 2 leggy skills to make it work, its good when low crit rate. But at same time its not worth the slot if u are too low on piercing dragon stacks.

pure mural
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my current crit rate avarage is 60-65%. i will upgrade my soulshields soon so too so will be more. i think 70% enought for slash only not?

tribal iris
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70 Worrythink , how are u so high cr with so little books

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do u have insane cards

still jackal
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against what target?

tribal iris
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or is that dummy values

young oasis
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Hold up

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How much gm you have on the slash

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Cuz the point is the buff. If you cant make 30gm fit in your build just use 1 slash and 1 spin slash

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You can keep corrosion uptime with those 2 since they both have 12 sec cd

pure mural
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30 on slash

pure mural
tribal iris
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i wont bother with 30 slash

young oasis
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All good then

tribal iris
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its a useless upgrade

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u rather get E leggy

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it will make ur gameplay a lot smoother

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u arent gonna tank B3 on RK anytime soon with tat gear

tribal iris
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prolly around 40-50

pure mural
tribal iris
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i wouldnt say tat far. its pretty much available for most people next patch

pure mural
young oasis
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You know what

tribal iris
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and gets hp nerf

young oasis
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You might be on to something

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Ill just go 264gm on dragon

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And use z and x joemad

pure mural
tribal iris
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i dont think it changes anything vs Z and X, since u still need 2 slots for it

young oasis
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Oh its cuz I didnt select counrer

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I forgot

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Ye it goes up still

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Cuz rn im 228 gm

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With new selection its 246 gm unless i drop counter

tribal iris
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yea

pure mural
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will be new selection?

young oasis
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i think my eyes just opened

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slash leg is really a waste

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actually i cant even do that

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cuz i like having aslt bat on 2

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extra cc for party sometimes helps 🤷

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and the kd book

tribal iris
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uh

young oasis
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reduces the kd cd to 18 sec

tribal iris
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u still need slash leggy though

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its just upgrade to 30 thats not a must have.

young oasis
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Oh

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Well in any case I might have to remove some piercing dragon.

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Id rather have extra utility avail

pure mural
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okey guys.thx for help.then i stay on leg slash,energy,2x piercing and the rest are purple.

foggy topaz
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WTB LEG BOOK DARK LANCER SLASH SERVER NA
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foggy topaz
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WTB LEGGY BOOK SLASH DL SERVER NA
PM

young oasis
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anyone need this for an alt ?

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or exp farming

wanton verge
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Is there any worth in having these 2?

fluid mountain
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Hi guys! Which build better, Lbm+4(48-48) or Lbm Only?

tribal iris
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Lmb only

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Unless u wanna suffer to do less dmg

fluid mountain
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Nice, ty m8 ❤️

queen glacier
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Ideally farstrike is stronger. Realistically lmb only is better.
For example, Farstrike 120 + 102 PD is 10~15% stronger than 228 PD. However, you cant do darkpiercer every moment because either u will get hit by boss or u will be tanking due to too much dmg

tribal iris
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hmmpepe 10-15?

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last time i calced farstrike build was only 1% stronger

jolly shell
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gap was much closer last time u guys spoke bout it yea

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but essentially what he said

tribal iris
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ya 2.4% stronger with 4/4 when lmb running 8% cr set.
iirc 1% stronger is with secret + dragon.

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capooflop 15% stronger would only be in my dreams

queen glacier
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lol, At least in my spec, it was that way.

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I couldn't do 44 every moment and gave up for now

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Realistic thing is this.
on dummy, you can't check much because it crits all the time.

In dungeon, 44 supports crit rate very nicely, but you can't do 44 every moment unless u don't tank.
All above is when u have 48 slash

tribal iris
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you can calc for perfect counts

queen glacier
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just sharing my thing. KR #1 is also trying 120 102 atm so lol

tribal iris
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51% CR resets 4/4 off cd. but with mantras and stuff u can get avg cr of 55(low balling)
So ideal scenerio you have
4 - 2x
lmb - 14x

For lmb
you get 24x in E
5x outside E to full reset.

queen glacier
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You can just play whatever u want

tribal iris
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the calcs with perfect numbers for max card set is 4448 vs 4340

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closer to 4400 if you use secrets and 48 Slash on lmb

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so there is no real use of playing 4/4. most of the time you will end up on dps loss

queen glacier
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yup, darkpiercer build is very nice to assist low crit though

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Mostly lands crit for darkpiercer attacks

tribal iris
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but if u are below 40 without Z 48, its even worse

queen glacier
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yeah don't even try when slash is not 48 lol

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it's definite dps loss

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I try all build when I try new class.
so far, I tried all KFM builds, all DES builds, all BM builds.
Still checking DL builds. wanna check some meme build I plan to try

tribal iris
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4/4 is how it feels to be a lightning bm, so much investment for the build to jst be mediocre

queen glacier
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light BM is strong though

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I am currently playing light BM

tribal iris
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only on par with other specs

queen glacier
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hmm not really

tribal iris
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most of the time , its like tat

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4th is lightning

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2nd and 3rd are slightly weaker geared than him

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slasher and puncture

slender seal
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Hey guys, I have a question about skills. I want to switch to a spearmaster; I have 4 legendary books. Which skills should I take besides PD?

young oasis
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The e

slender seal
young oasis
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3dp 1 delyn_smirk

slender seal
lean ermine
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1 slash 1 de and rest is LMB

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Maybe can even consider 2 slash books and dropping purple X

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But better value is 1 E 1 Z and 2LMB

tribal iris
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Catlongday having 50% cr base felt much stronger on 4/4 than having lower cr and higher cd

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probably being able to proc E consistently off cd is getting me higher dps since that directly means all 4s are going off on 12 sec cd

brave birch
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how do you survive in level 30 of the tower?

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tried purple c, does not help too much

quaint spire
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Which boss is it again

jolly meadow
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you can block projectils

quaint spire
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Oh that one

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Well so it's possible to circle tank a lot of things by rotating close to his center of mass.

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For the projectiles your best bet is purple counter book and spam 1

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Till he's done shooting

jolly meadow
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circling at 4m should be enouth so you can just walk out of the in out in

brave birch
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circle is fine, i do double q

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it is the projectiles

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purple 1 give you more block?

tribal iris
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purple gives iframe for 1.5 sec

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so u can jst spam it

brave birch
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ah ok

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thx

young oasis
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annyone in na need this for an alt ?

young oasis
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in na

scenic zodiac
shut sphinx
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Good evening everyone, what is your most damaging build at the moment? This class is only about to be added on our localization. If you don’t mind, could you provide a link to yast? I have 4 legendary skills

tribal iris
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if its initial version of DL

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then LMB + 30 GM glaive.

queen glacier
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Hmmm

tribal iris
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somehow never realised that base Z now gives 2 demonic with leggy.

young oasis
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its so clutch

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if im low i pop the z then pause a half sec then continue to let the recovery after proc too

slender seal
tribal iris
dry mauve
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which Rahu card is a must have for us?

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i got 2 Rahu copies. i want the next Zulia card too soo will use my Milage on that

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do i want the 88ap set, 3/12 set?

young oasis
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why

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wadahelly

young oasis
wanton verge
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Any tips for a 16k lancer to clear floor 30 in tower?

young oasis
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i mean, what the monster do

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?

wanton verge
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like cross pattern

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and front and sides i saw

young oasis
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✝️ < this ?

wanton verge
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i mean front and back then sides

young oasis
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just one guy ?

wanton verge
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YES

young oasis
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sound like just walk around

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you can record it ?

wanton verge
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cant record but he jumps up for slam and has this weird out in pattern i cant see the start of

young oasis
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actually its ok

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someone in my other server posted videos

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and has floor 30

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maybe watch this

wanton verge
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cause i feel my dps might be just enough it seems really close tho

young oasis
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look how this bd just walk in and out

wanton verge
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ig getting purple counter is needed

young oasis
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ye if you cant afford to take damage

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i did all floors except 45 as kfm so i dont know

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but for lancer all floor should be ez

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get movement speed buff it is nice

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🫡

wanton verge
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these are what i have is it even any good?

young oasis
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i think its fine, i dont know what else is on those floors besides defense

wanton verge
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okay i see thank you

teal phoenix
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Sturdiness is useless D:

quaint spire
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The middle and bottom left ones are not really great. I just run more dmg and movement speed so I can "Git gud and dodge" easier

young oasis
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Movement speed is the best

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Its so fun

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On kfm it was liek

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Im bruce lee

quaint spire
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For Floor 45 I theorized it might be possible to chain range check the boss and ignore all his patterns on WL if you had the Lotus movement speed one

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cuz you could move out of the red aoe before it hits u without having to ever iframe it

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Both MS effects*

plain pike
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WTS NA PMO

dry mauve
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wtb 3X piercing dragon EU

wanton verge
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is the farstrike build viable?

queen glacier
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Difficult but fun

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The matter is the charging moment.

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If nc gives cc immune to charging moment, it would be fun 🙁

young oasis
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they did...just at the wrong part of skill

tribal iris
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i still need to try mao on 4/4

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the peircing part was fine on every dg until machi

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but machi is unplayable outside of mechphase

queen glacier
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Darkpiercer only cc immune during releasing moment, not during charging moment

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I was playing while I am tanking Machi, but very tough lol

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decided to just play with full PD build

tribal iris
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oh wolf bibong fist, u could use the release part to avoid ccs

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its mainly the forward yellow attack of machi

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thats annoying af

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if it didnt kd

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woulda been fine

queen glacier
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Farstrike and darkpiercer only cc immune during releasing, not while holding for charging. This is the biggest issue

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I would play charging build if they fix it

young oasis
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should also add some def up to it

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so u can tank a few hits while charging

tribal iris
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4 should have lifesteal to

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cause u lose soo much lifesteal by playing the build

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5 secs of 0 hits

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im fine with it not having cc immunity, that makes the build have some level of situation awareness to play properly

queen glacier
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As long as cc immune during charging, that would be happy enough

tribal iris
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Whatever then its just boring build with 0 skill

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as a 4/4 player since lancer release, the only thing that keeps me invested in it is the precision timing being rewarding

queen glacier
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what is 4/4 mean?

tribal iris
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darkpiercer

quaint spire
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Ya when you dark piercer you use it twice in a row so I think that's what the 4/4 means

queen glacier
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Aha oki

jolly meadow
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gl to 4/4 on mao 30%

tribal iris
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is it just the spinning circle thing? doesnt seem that bad, mao seems soo much slower than machi

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even machi is kind of figured out now, i can almost do 90% of my actual dps while tanking.

quaint spire
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The moving saw blades that stun with the meteors aoe you jump over at the same time

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I can't imagine Mao being fun for 4/4

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Last 30%

jolly meadow
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  • tank get choosed at random so you dont know where aoe will end up
  • she have a counter
wanton verge
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i see cause i got two of the books leg so was just wondering since they bound

night compass
brave birch
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how do you get out from the mine lines if you got slow? f ss not enough

young oasis
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You jump over

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And let it miss you (the slow)

brave birch
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lmao, sometimes just miss the jump

young oasis
lean ermine
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F roll Q SS

brave birch
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ty

tribal iris
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u dont need to Q before suck

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u can QQ while F roll animation is happening

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F QQ SS, works 100% of the time

quaint spire
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I never tried that when I was lancer

young oasis
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I tried it once and i must not have q fast neough

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and i didnt make it lol

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but thats nice

tribal iris
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u have to walk a tiny bit but u will make it everytime

lean ermine
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you can FQQ SS too

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But he is also getting hit by the slam

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and slowing him

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Maybe QQ SS is more distance in comaprison to just F SS?

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Ive always have Q'ed before the slam and F rolled Q SS'ed it and its done almost instantly

tribal iris
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should be the same FQ puts you in the same spot in which u would end up with F roll, then next Q SS and ss puts you at like 18-19m

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then u need to walk 1m for tether break, but this combo is impossible to fk up compared to Q F Q

lean ermine
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Even if you accidently Iframe the succ with Q though

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2nd Q into SS is more than enough as well

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Meh there are many ways to cut an apple

queen glacier
lean ermine
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still working rn AHAHAH

queen glacier
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lol

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gg

lean ermine
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I do think its gonna be a bit stronger

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sad its like -18 stacks of LMB though

queen glacier
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nah;;

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after I took off, yeah it is significant

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I can see it lol

maiden marsh
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If anyone has any double crit whitelights for sale in EU i might wanna buy, gearing an alt atm bns_shy

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All i have in whitelight is Bracelet belt and weapon

young oasis
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Dsmn bro why you eu

late reef
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Damn what about NA? Any double crit, outside of belt and ring and wep

young oasis
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Ill check after work in several hours and see what I've saved

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I might be confusing it with my kfm tho. So dont get hopes up

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I usually save double crit or 10% exp gear for any future players

young oasis
late reef
steep patrol
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WTS (EU)

remote dock
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hi, i wanted to ask, whats a build for this class?

lean ermine
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Best is LMB only

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3 leg books mandatory

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LMB E and Z

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rest of your books:
X purple
Remainder is LMBs

and if you want to; you can get a counter (1) book in place of 1 LMB

random olive