Dark Lancer

[night sphinx]

just make your friends do the cc

and rp walk to the wall

f, ss is actually fine tho

[vast tangle]

I'm just doing F + SS and walking, i also have time to dash KD after

WTS EU guys ! Fair price !

[tribal iris]

5k now

[vast tangle]

So you're preparing fragment leggy for new spell ?

Pretty good idea anyway

Currently i'm happy with 33% win rate, next spell it will be a 60% winrate for me

[tribal iris]

yea i should have enuff 3 random books next patch

bought some trash for 12k yest

[vast tangle]

Yeah i saw the BM, we have 13k too :p

[tribal iris]

hopefully i fail all the rolls and get piercing dragons, so i can loot the lmb players

[vast tangle]

:3

WTT 4 versus LMB :3

[cyan garden]

Hello all. For all Dark Lancers affected by the broken Legendary Skill Book Chest item, we have now automatically delivered the fixed item via mail to your account. If you are a Dark Lancer and still have not received it via mail, please contact I don't understand what that means.

[hallow nest]

there's an anniversary code, gives a legendary book chest
#📯︱bns-news message

[cyan garden]

How can you be so strong?

[cyan garden]

ty

[magic quail]

How much CR it needed for lancer to be decent w/o glaive?
8.5k cr still not so good.

[tribal iris]

60% on bosses, if u dont wanna feel cringe

[magic quail]

How many is that number on stat mate? Like 10k?

[tribal iris]

depends on level

[magic quail]

Ah right, maybe cz im 71 or bad crit rng

Thanks mate

[mystic herald]

no not even close, im almost at 15k and my cr is still in the 42-50% range with 2 crit rate % cards

I don't run glaive atm tho

thats the range for current dawncrest dngs, fist,bong,dog

[terse pivot]

is it me or lifedrain set feels so useles on draklancer

[fast dust]

Hi guys, Any tips against Naksun? I only have kd on skill 3. It's not enough to stop all his phase. Do I need to learn book to have stun on skill 2?

[clear hamlet]

slower classes will leech less than faster classes, lancer is probably one of the worst in that regard

[quaint spire]

Yeah we so slow its not great

but in MSP works well enough

Azure Spear formation is a nice source of extra drain (and dr cuz I use the book)

For MSP farming

[tribal iris]

azure is jst DR no?

[quaint spire]

Nah, base skill is dmg in area every 2 sec for 10 sec

dr is added at blue stage

[tribal iris]

oh u mean dot giving extra hits

[quaint spire]

and giga focus regen at purple

Yep

the dot is non negligible when it hits 5 ennemies at once for drain

[tribal iris]

[quaint spire]

on some spots

I could ALMOST not have to use potions

cuz I dont cheese with 1 counter book cuz thats too much wait time for mobs to stack sometimes

(i do have a tenacity set mind u, but hard to see if it does much)

[tribal iris]

dont think u waste any extra time though

since it would jst kill the last guy at same time u would kill if he wasnt stacked

[quaint spire]

Nah some spots the fat guys just take 5 seconds to even leap

or small venomous guys not stacking

[tribal iris]

u can start hitting him

and jst counter when hes about to leap

[quaint spire]

Youre losing a gcd to counter tho

While v

is like

not same gcd group

Maybe im only saving peanuts of seconds tho

Well

Ig uess i am too lazy to change books too

I dont use counter book normally cuz im just not tanking much

[tribal iris]

stacking also lets u recover

like 5 demonic

with z

[quaint spire]

Ye some packs I do stack in my aoe, then X Z LMB em

But most of the time im Driving by

[vast tangle]

#1462959631188885735 message

Give me some gems !

[night sphinx]

i am starting to think this is the only skill in the box

[vast tangle]

3 owned, 😉 Go Lean xd

[tribal iris]

its telling u to take the rightful path

[quaint spire]

5 boxes (including anniversary code) and 4 of them were glaive swell

1 piercing dragon, 0 farstrike

[vast tangle]

I Wonder if 4 Will be mandatory with new Z who give 2 100% crit..

[drifting dock]

If you have 10%+ from cards and 10% from new Z, along with the longer E, you could get away with dropping the safety 4

But it’s always safer to have it in case of bad rng

[quaint spire]

We did it, but at what cost...

[night sphinx]

[quaint spire]

@terse pivot Its Joever. The BnS tutorial is joever

https://tenor.com/bpbwi.gif

[terse pivot]

Gz now farm 214m more

[quaint spire]

Going to go to the shadow realm ch0

[mystic herald]

Lol the lancer G skill sure helps a ton when u miss or fk up a mech in new leggy dng

[mystic herald]

Anyone know if the new lancer leggy books for E and Z coming out after march 24th?

or what's the timeline on that

[tribal iris]

i mean , only NC knows

but most likely yes

cause thats the only big thing that we will get on next patch

[mystic herald]

guess i'm saving gold and my 8 pages till then

and hopefully we also get the hajoon's that will allow us to swap books

[tribal iris]

it will have the option , but u are bettter of using hajoon for the good card box

unless u alr have the good cards alr

[mystic herald]

I am missing a lot of crit dmg % sets but I also have 4 bound books I want to swap (farstrike) to glaive swell

[tribal iris]

class swap in 2months

[mystic herald]

I'd pref not having to spend on a class swap or spending at all tbh.

[vast tangle]

Quick little tips for LMB lovers (since many ppl seems to not know) :

You can disable the "red" Farstrike in "K". If you do this, you will be able to use "normal" Farstrike during red stance.

With purple book --> 4 recovery of red focus !

With leggy book it's 6. When my crit suxx and since i don't want to use RMB, it help me :p

Oww and since things are making greet, WTS Leggy Farstrike :3

And if you're not with me, it's also a quick resist ! Not an iframe but almost :p

[tribal iris]

lean alr mentioned this b4

[fading bolt]

The problem is, glaive is only good in high level dungeons

And we spent 90% of our time in msp soo…

[mystic herald]

yeah I took off my 48gm farstrike and just left in 1 leggy book for the demonic energy lmao

rip my sf

[quaint spire]

Im using a purple V book instead of this tech

4 locks u in such a long animation even if only using the normal one, and you lose lmb boost

I do use RMB a lot so thats where im getting the Energy i wont get from 4

[terse pivot]

@quaint spire brother how many gold u spend i need a lot card

[quaint spire]

They were all bad cards and all my fuses were bad

2700 gold down the drain

[terse pivot]

Oh nice to know that will farm msp till i got 5k gold then gamba

[flat cloud]

buff dl

[vast tangle]

@night sphinx My friend, how ><

[night sphinx]

i feel so dirty and ugly

must be ping

[vast tangle]

80AP+, 1k+ crit, 2500crit damge, i'm 13ms

We shouldn't have the same DPS

WHat am i missing ?

[drifting dock]

same crit rate % cards?

that's the most important part for DL

[night sphinx]

doesnt matter on this boss

its 100% crit anyweay

[drifting dock]

ah right the 100 crit boss

[vast tangle]

It was WB bug, level 46, i was 95% crit rate

To be honest, i'm very frustrating right now x)

Whatever, GG i guess ^^

[drifting dock]

sounds like a difference in counts

nothing else it could be, considering it's just LMB spam

[vast tangle]

Yeah, he's doing more LMB, but how that's the question :p

[drifting dock]

what was your lmb count?

[vast tangle]

1304

[drifting dock]

I mean per second

[vast tangle]

ehhhh

[drifting dock]

so that number divided by 4

[vast tangle]

Should i divide per the time fight ?

[drifting dock]

divided by time

cuz it's 4 hits registered per lmb

[vast tangle]

1.96

[drifting dock]

yeah that sounds correct for a 100% rate boss

can not be higher with lower ping either

[vast tangle]

Lean is doing higher so..

i have to do something wrong somewhere, but idk where ><

[mystic herald]

there are so many factors in play

how many times did he get cc'd by boss, how many times did you get cc'd by boss

his down time vs your down time
his gm stacks vs yours
his cards vs yours
idk if group matters other than hmb and stealth since so many debuffs are put onto boss

I have more gm than a lot of ppl but still do less because I only have 1 crit dmg % set while everyone has full crit dmg/crit rate

[drifting dock]

at 1.96 lmb per second, there is 0 downtime

[mystic herald]

downtime from being hit by boss

[drifting dock]

otherwise that number can't happen

[mystic herald]

making you have to tab/f and recover to start dps again

[drifting dock]

yes

at 1,96 there is none

as 2 is the max

assume the 0,04 is gone for iframing

[mystic herald]

wym, if they got hit like twice in a row that's like 3s of not attacking because they have to recover from being cc'd

[drifting dock]

mate, idk where the disconnect in this conversation is

1.96 is a dummy level count number

meaning no interruptions are possible if this is the final number

for the entire fight

[mystic herald]

oh it's from a trianing dummy, i thought they were doing wb

they were talking about wb

[drifting dock]

they were doing a WB

I'm saying 1,96 is a count so high on lmb, that the only way to get it on WB

is to fail 0 times

[mystic herald]

I see

[drifting dock]

as 2.0 is the theoretical max, if you only hold lmb while standing still

[mystic herald]

honestly lancer attacks so dam slow i don't even pay attention or care about their attacks/sec

drian is a joke on this class

so sadge

[drifting dock]

yeah it's useless on DL sadly

[night sphinx]

put all your points in attack speed

[mystic herald]

teach me the hax

[night sphinx]

wait wrong game

[mystic herald]

i wanna be able to have perma sprint and teleport in msp too

[night sphinx]

@ rownen this man right here

[mystic herald]

i wanna be like sukuna

living rent free 🤣

remember when people were saying macro is better than holding down lmb/rmb

guess it doesn't apply to lancer

there's like 0 diff

[quaint spire]

Well if you're using rmb there's a diff

Either you're lazy or not

About upkeep rmb

[pallid gulch]

clearly every other lancer ingame just suck more than lean at pressing lmb lol, regardless of gear gap 😔

[vast tangle]

It's time to come-back to the dark side of BnS..

So sad but whatever

I'm OK to fight, but with the same weapon

Mine don't have the max speed increase, yet

[night sphinx]

some more money will fix it

[still jackal]

[vast tangle]

It's always about money

[night sphinx]

nex class change soon

[still jackal]

its more about skill

[night sphinx]

nah my lmb is doing darkpiercer damage

[still jackal]

[terse pivot]

@quaint spire
rahu and hong
finnaly get 15% cdmg
and another 5% crit rate

[quaint spire]

poggers

[tribal iris]

this is actually insane lol

u break the tether and get back to boss sooo damn fast

[quaint spire]

Yeah

Gotta make sure u dont do 2nd Q before u get pulled tho

[tribal iris]

the timing is like perfect if u play 4 build , E 44 Q F Q

[gloomy flame]

hi Im thinking of returning to NEO to play spear class...I wondewr if there is any guides for rotation and book for Dark Lancer around? sorry 😭

[tiny finch]

[tribal iris]

has anyone noticed this before?

lmb applies badge dmg twice when erosion is applied lol

nvm me, apparently thats from the gm 18

[quaint spire]

that should Be Badge, LMB, Erosion then Gm18 I think?

[fading bolt]

Yeah piercing dragon always have 4 lines in one hit, i noticed when i start to dummy parses to check my hit/s

[ember thunder]

its just any additional dmg is added as a new line

[vast tangle]

How much hit/s you got on dummy ?

[fading bolt]

Around 1,9 never got the 2/s, but im on 130ms

[quaint spire]

Dl weak nerf summoner

[quaint spire]

We're so back

[polar elm]

anyone wants to trade this for an LMB ? c:

[polar elm]

btw any tips on how to maintain rmb crit buff as long as possible without running out of focus ?

I dont have room for purple V

[jolly meadow]

get a -50% def bot, they give focus too

[polar elm]

wdym

[lean ermine]

Uh Focus Mantra roll

48 stack RMB is also good to upkeep stacks

I fukin hate rmb so I don’t run it

[polar elm]

I hate it too but im forced to run it since its the only leggy i keep getting

[quaint spire]

I know the feel

96 gm inc

[polar elm]

Same got 3

https://tenor.com/view/sadgecry-sadge-cry-gif-18423674

[quaint spire]

hey if we get that thing where u can reroll a book

and new books

its not that bad (yet)

Personally im fine with rmb 48 gm, and I use purple spear formation so I dont have to get out of Demonic stance to generate focus

If I get giga card sets in the future might drop it

[tribal iris]

Just tab Z tab real quick?

[polar elm]

Yeah purple V is a must for good focus sustain

[polar elm]

Normal Z restores focus ?

Kek never knew

[tribal iris]

It recovers 11 focus on 9 sec cd

[quaint spire]

Yeah normal z is good

Im just lazy

And Purple Spear formation is a great tool for msp

With Legendary Z, we will have a bit of focus from using it in Demonic Stance

im really hyped for 30gm z

I can drop this stupid spinning slash skill

Same GCD group as LMB I think?

and less range

[tribal iris]

No spinny was changed last patch

U can insta ani cancel with lmb , its group 3 now

[quaint spire]

heh sometimes it feels like the full animation goes off regardless of what I do

It does consistently apply Corrosion now tho

Which is huge

no more accidentally cancelling it

[tribal iris]

but being group 3 means it always full animation when i want to 4 of it

Cant wait for leggy Z

2 more weekz

[quaint spire]

Yeah

Leggy z is huge

and Leggy e is a small boost to Buff duration which is nice the more crit chance you have to begin with

cuz you spend less time without the buff

BUt z is def the star of the show

[polar elm]

Oh wow we getting leggy Z next week ?

I hope we also get an event with a leggy book as reward

[lean ermine]

Leg Z leg E

[polar elm]

Oh damn

[lean ermine]

Leg E is like 12s demonic form

That’s really it

[polar elm]

Sadge I shouldve saved my chest

[lean ermine]

Like 3-5 more pokes

[tribal iris]

Event chests wont get updated

So u didnt lose anything.

[polar elm]

Not event, normal transmute

[lean ermine]

Ima gamba again for celetial thunder

[tribal iris]

Ah

[polar elm]

Shouldn’t have transmuted before patch if I knew

[lean ermine]

And if I fail then at least I can maybe get new books

[polar elm]

Its fine

I can still sell the 4

[tribal iris]

True always a good time to gamba on dl

[polar elm]

What can I get for the leggy 4 ? Approx

[lean ermine]

Are you NA or EU

[polar elm]

Eu

[lean ermine]

Damn can’t help ya.

[tribal iris]

Not much more than trash skill

Last i saw for 11k

[polar elm]

The thought counts pookie

[lean ermine]

On NA we have LMB for like 18k

[tribal iris]

Ya lmb is 20k

[lean ermine]

and trash for 12-15k

[tribal iris]

Here to

Trash 9k

[polar elm]

Trash is 10k here

[lean ermine]

Wowe

[polar elm]

Hmmm

I saw 2 4s listed for 15k each

[lean ermine]

I wish I had that when gambaing for celestial thunder haha

[polar elm]

Idk if theyll sell tho

[tribal iris]

Most peeps are lmb slaves

So its hard sell

[polar elm]

Pain

[lean ermine]

Holy you poor thing

That’s so bad omfg

[polar elm]

2 4s and 3 rmbs

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-smoking-sadge-pepe-smoking-pepe-sadge-gif-11593451519029497030

[tribal iris]

And the 4 of us in top 10 is pretty much capped on 4 and lmb

[polar elm]

Ugh

I didnt like playing with rmb

[lean ermine]

lmb gang is life

[polar elm]

My one braincell dislikes having to manage another buff timer

Aight imma turn on me laptop and list the 4

Might get 12k for it hopefully and save for next patch

[quaint spire]

Leave it to macro

[tribal iris]

Certain technology makes it 0 braincell

[polar elm]

Theres a macro ?

Gimmegimmegimmegimme

[quaint spire]

Well Ahk in my case, not perfect tho.

[polar elm]

Oh

Nvm

[quaint spire]

I know of other dark magic I do not dare speak of tho

[lean ermine]

I’ve never thought to macro RMB

I’m holding a mouse button down man

[polar elm]

Boooo lmb only spammers booo

[lean ermine]

It’s a godsend when tanking bosses though

[polar elm]

Jokes on you im hella weak to tank and Im always carried so I can cast my 4 safely

[lean ermine]

I just can brain off and block stuff with 1 and poke the boss

[lean ermine]

Breh

[quaint spire]

What you don't like Ahk?

[polar elm]

Nah im just stupid

Hopefully some good samaritan buys my 4 for 15k

Ill save the dg for next patch in the hopes that I can finally get an LMB

[tribal iris]

Almost impossible to tank with 4 on fist

Wolf and dog is fine

[quaint spire]

Meh I could provide my Ahk file but it's kinda jank and I don't wanna rattle my brain to fix issues with it. I still have to use rmb manually sometimes. Main issue is refreshing corrosion just before rmb is scheduled sometimes skip it

[quaint spire]

Fist is just ass overall. I only recently had enough practice on lmb spam to not frew up basic rotation. You fail to q the red fast punch and it's joever for like 18 seconds my one braincell fails to time q sometimes

[tribal iris]

As in if u tank fist, u have almost no opportunity to charge 4, other than if cd lines up for a kd and during punches.

[quaint spire]

Oh I bet

Fist is still ass regardless

[tribal iris]

Yea it def is

[polar elm]

woops nvm and im late to work

Ill just wait for next patch and pray for the book exchange tickets event

https://tenor.com/view/2omb-prayge-gif-24836248

[mystic herald]

same I have 4 bound farstrikes that I'd lilke to swap

[polar elm]

I did some digging

Apparently, the book swap thingy is like hajoon

You buy event chests from F10, i think they’ll cost 1250 gems each

Each chest will have one coin and some other goodies, and u can buy 10 chests max

You can use 6 coins to get a bound leggy box.

And you can use 2 coins + one of your owned leggies to transmute a bound rng leggy chest

Its not selector

So 2500 gems to randomly reroll your trash books, with a chance of getting the same book again

[mystic herald]

It will be a biger issue next patch too when that hajoon drops because we will have our E and Z leggy

We only need 1 copy of those from what I know so with 2 extra books added the chances of you hitting another farstrike or copies of those is also gonna be hit or miss, if its 6 coins for a bound, i might as well take my chances on rolling 3 than just 1 random hit

[polar elm]

You can get the 6 coins chest, and reroll twice with ur remaining 4 coins

There was another book swap event with tickets

But I got tired of scrolling and translating xd

[tribal iris]

what patch is this from

[polar elm]

Couldnt tell you, cant remember kek

I’ll post link as soon as I turn on my laptop

[outer plume]

Either next or the one after

I think both do rerolls

[tribal iris]

only seen rerolls from hajoons and jackpot, didnt see one thats direct from f10 purely focused on reroll

i guess its the one with scroll thing?

[polar elm]

Nah its a coin

Gimme one min

Kr also got another class swap event this week i think

[clear hamlet]

this week?

sounds too early

they said they're planning on it

[tribal iris]

yea they got it

[clear hamlet]

woaw

[polar elm]

https://bns.plaync.com/board/neonotice/view?articleId=69b0c0e8ff725971d1f1b268

oh yea they got Class swap and book swap

this swap

Sorry I thought this was the old one, lemme look for it

theyre eating good this week

https://bns.plaync.com/board/neonotice/view?articleId=675eeef07c40543cda126fd7

here is the old book swap thingy

its the same box, just different names

6 coins for a new rng leggy, 2 coins for rerolling

they got this in february

Assuming we're 2 or 3 patches behind, we "should" get it after april's patch

[tribal iris]

we can only hope that, kr overloads bless us with those boxes

they are always cutting out half the events for us

[jolly meadow]

they got 10 reroll scrolls from theyr last stream i think

https://bns.plaync.com/board/neonotice/view?articleId=699c59bc772f373f0f2835cc

insane stream gifts

[limber ore]

ok ı realy need advise on this

[lean ermine]

Hard to say

How do you like playing the class?

How do you play the class^*

Do you enjoy spamming LMB more or 4 more

[tribal iris]

playing all the builds under the sun

[limber ore]

yeah ım playin build called what ıget from gamba build

[lean ermine]

if its what ya get from gamba...just keep it as is

unless you want to invest into purple books

but my opinion LMB RMB is solid

with 48 RMB, your chilling

i personally would sell the "4"s and buy into more LMBs

but if those "4"s are bound...nmight as well just keep em lol

[limber ore]

ı have 5 bound book 2 glainve 2 4 1 lmw

1 glaive + 1 lmw can tradable

[lean ermine]

glaive 48 stack is good if you dont have legendary mantra: Focus regen

if you have focus regen mantra, just 30 stack is fine.

personally "4" build is ass unless your NOT tanking

its very hard to throw a 4 4 during most boss fights

[limber ore]

yeah ım only today do it glaive to 48

ı played some time

4 time 4 can be done

but rmw stacks not usable

[lean ermine]

thats why having 48 GM stacks on all 3 skills is terrible haha

its a waste of slots which can just be purple books for LMB

[limber ore]

ı have not swimin on leggys

[lean ermine]

TLDR: Three builds

LMB RMB
LMB only
(4) LMB

[limber ore]

yeah ı need leggy swap

[lean ermine]

It depends on your playstyle.

Just play whatever style you want man.

and take off the leg books that doesnt matter

and replace with just purple book LMBs

3 purple books is 18 stacks

which is alot of DPS overall.

esp at lower GM stacks

[limber ore]

but ı have to say

msp most eficent ı think

yeah yu can lmw full stack go

[lean ermine]

Yeah exactly

[limber ore]

but when big ones spawning

[lean ermine]

MSP spam with LMB build

[limber ore]

4

[lean ermine]

if big mob spawns just corrosion and lmb it lol

but 4 4 works on mob ofc

[limber ore]

yeah its lmw most eficent

yu dont have to wait

and yu use also rmw sometimes

but yu dont need all 48 stack

[tribal iris]

nothing wrong with 4 build and tanking

found out yest, even fist is easy i just had to charge 4 during his triple punch and i iwll full resist the shoulder after it.

[limber ore]

yeah sure ı like 4 ı dont give up on that but glaive nah most annoying to use ı think ı need leggy swap

crit rate not much need anymore anyway

[mystic herald]

4 has a insane high ceiling of failure if you miss or cancel early

if you stack 4 and you miss/don't charge to max cus the boss moves then you're cucked

[tribal iris]

dont fail

it has 20m range

[fading bolt]

For me, especially if u dont have flat crit cards, lmb rmb is the master build

I was lvl 70 doing queen with only 12k crit rate, and the rotation was smooth, with E always back off cd without the need to leave demonic stance

[tribal iris]

yea lmb rmb is the easiest to play

[tribal iris]

why is DL WB so stacked now , this is not nice

[drifting dock]

if you think it's stacked now

wait until the next reroll after the skills arrive

🫡

[tribal iris]

i hope all the bm complainers roll to DL

[night sphinx]

im going summoner so -1

[drifting dock]

first reroll to summoner in EU incoming

[tribal iris]

sum, highest dps class after all

[clear hamlet]

all the extra damage gained from def down should be counted for the summoner

dorolemon

[young vector]

I say the same about bleed...

[quaint spire]

Bleed is even stronger than def down

but both good

[outer plume]

Not in 12 man 😭

[young vector]

Thats when you bully everyone else into not running bleed

[ember thunder]

WTS EU

[vast tangle]

GG dude !

[vast nova]

OPEN TO OFFERS

NA

[quaint spire]

50 dg and a smoothie

[vast nova]

Sold for 50dg and a smoothie 😋 😍

[polar elm]

Dont diss my beloved 4

It will become bis build trust

[tribal iris]

gm 18 Z and E alone would make 4 soo much smoother

[vast tangle]

Step 1, find one leggy E and 2 leggy Z.

Step 2 : Think about keeping glaive swell

Step 3 : Think about playing Like Skyrus :p

[still jackal]

[quaint spire]

We are reaching cope levels that were thought impossible

[vast tangle]

XD

I'm not full leggy LMB so idk if the gain of DPS after 160GM point is amazing regardless using 4

About Glaive Swell, i'm doing less DPS using it on "low" dungeon

[quaint spire]

Rn anything yeti and below (and WB) I don't use rmb

Queen up I do

[fading bolt]

Ofc if u already do 70% + crit rate, which is the case in any low lvl dungeon, rmb is dps loss

The point of rmb, is high level dungeons, where do around 40-50% crit rate without it

[tribal iris]

same thing applies to 4 build, using 4 in dungeons below yeti is DPS loss.

[vast tangle]

So we use glaive in high level dungeon to have enough crit to "reset" red buff.

Since we Will get new leggy who Will probably "guaranted" to have enough red energy, we will, perhaps, be able to skip glaive

Idk how KR gamers are playing currently

[tribal iris]

not using glaive is just a dps loss

its not just for having enough reds

esp now that red Z would also give u focus

[vast tangle]

So what is the % of crit we have to reach to avoid glaive ? Since we're not using in "low" dungeon

[tribal iris]

lets see,
for 12 sec, you get 25 lmb without glaive
22 lmb with glaive.

if u have 55% cr by default, u should be fine without glaive

although, you can end up getting more dps when u min max the cards for more CD sets and still run glaive.

[night sphinx]

i also think glaive swell is must keep for now. Though i would love to drop it.

[jolly meadow]

why use a 4?
why 48 Z? 60% cd on 2 hit over 25lmb is ilke 5%? cd average

the build would be E 30Z 264lmb
or E 30Z 228lmb 30rmb
from 228gm to 264 it's 194.4 --> 205.2 %
i doubt +10.8% and 3 lmb is better than 10% cr (realisicly not 15% )

[night sphinx]

i dont agree with that build either. But they never used glaive swell in kr.

[jolly meadow]

+10.8% is aditive so your real dps would only grow by 5.5%
and 10% cr is multiplicativ so 10% of your cd (probably around 250%) 25% dps increase

rmb is clunky but brocken

• all these are considering you skip the parry the grab, dont need a stunt not playing celestial
  with 1 F 48celestial it would have been 13.7% increase against still 25% and celestial can crit so rmb wins again

[fading bolt]

The breakpoint for me, testing with dummys of different levels, was around 65% to do the same dps

If you hit less than 65% without rmb, you do more dps with glaive swell, but didnt test that much…

[vast tangle]

65%, i'll need to drop good card then :x

[polar elm]

I still believe 4 is getting buffed

https://tenor.com/view/hl2-hl3-half-life-3-hopium-hope-gif-7246120153840726923

[polar elm]

Rerolling all 4 of my glaive swells the moment book swap event drops

Its so butt.

[night sphinx]

i get it man

[left reef]

hey a new player here, which skills should i appoint my skills to exactly

[lean ermine]

Check pinned messages in here

Bunny made a guide

Shoutout to @tiny finch

[left reef]

i was reading it right now

but which build would you guys go for as a new player

[tiny finch]

[tiny finch]

it says in the guide

literally a whole slide on it

[left reef]

oh okay im overwhelmed so probably missed it lmao

[lean ermine]

Asking what build I would recommend you is like asking how sweet you like your latte

It’s your preference man

Easiest for a new player is prob LMB 4 in terms of doing a constant rotation.

LMB RMB is also a reasonable one for a new player since it gives a crit rate buff and that helps with rotation since your crit reliant. This build is good on higher level dungeons.

LMB only really only works with higher investment or like high levels of crit (65% preferred)

[clear hamlet]

dorspin1

[mystic herald]

is it confirmed lancer is getting leggy E and Z this next patch?

Im so tired of depending on Z crit for demonic energy back, I just want to be able to cast it and not pray on a crit to get any benefit

[young vector]

Don't think anything at all has been confirmed

[lean ermine]

imagine not having 65% crit

jk my crit isnt that high, I wish

[mystic herald]

were both anti glaive swell, for me mainly cus I keep getting bound farstrikes and i haven't hit a single glaive

[vast tangle]

We will have them, 95% sure

[lean ermine]

id rather chop off my left ring finger than equip a glaive even if I get 20 of them

aint catchin me with that skill anyday

[tribal iris]

just play real builds

[mystic herald]

idk man im kinda liking the fact that i out dps ppl with 500 more ap than me

[vast tangle]

shhhh

It's a secret

[tribal iris]

jst DL things

[still jackal]

[random olive]

Anyone have guide on rotation/build?

[quaint spire]

Have you ever heard about the tragedy of Darth "Pin Messages" the wise?

[jolly shell]

Time to follow this chan

[tribal iris]

no?

dont want more DLs

[lean ermine]

DL bad class trust

[flat cloud]

yup yup buff DL

[quaint spire]

Nerf Summoner, Nerf bleed, buff DL

[tribal iris]

can purple book be changed to 6sec cd dash

i would like to apply bleed

[outer plume]

We're already at the bottom

Any lower and we'd be underground

[tribal iris]

next 2 attacks by 10% for 6 sec.

there was a 6sec limitation? thats lame

i liked to hold my 4 sometimes

[random olive]

What is prio for books?

Also can someone link a good build?

[tribal iris]

pins

[random olive]

i checked the 1 pin

[tribal iris]

that says everything u need

[random olive]

doesnt show build or prio on books just explains skills

like i have purple selection box idk what to choose i got gold lmb basic stance book

[tribal iris]

do u know which build u are going for

because every build lmb is main thing

4 build needs 2 legendary minimum

regular build also would need 48 gm lmb

[random olive]

the better one but idk which that is im just coming back

@tribal iris im just learning it so will take a bit of getting used to

[random olive]

Well guide says to go lmb build

So guess we go lmb

[tribal iris]

WTT Leggy E with Leggy Z

[quaint spire]

Another set has hit the collection

[tribal iris]

also thank god, we didnt get the bugged leggy Z

the crit does work on the next 2 hits

[quick hazel]

Hiya returning and somewhat new player here, but is there a specific skill I should be leveling up on Dark Lancer?

[lean ermine]

Pin comments

tldr LMB

[quick hazel]

haha thanks!

[lean ermine]

then depends on build

[tiny finch]

[quick hazel]

The pinned link went to a google sheets doc that I saw

but was in viet/en lol

[tiny finch]

it's not in viet

[quick hazel]

hold up lol

@tiny finch I think it legitimately went up to the top of the channel

so I saw a google sheets that had some Vietnamese / English on it

but clicking on the pin here shoes the google ppt lol

[tiny finch]

yea you clicked "jump to top"

not pins

[quick hazel]

nope

[tiny finch]

yes you did

[quick hazel]

? nah chief I'm telling you I didn't lol

[tiny finch]

the guide in pins is not a goole doc

it's a google slide

[quick hazel]

I clicked on what was provided in #💬︱neo-chat and it jumped me up

idk why

did not click "Jump to top" lol

[tiny finch]

yeah that was not a msg link or anything

that was a channel link

[quick hazel]

yeah

[tiny finch]

just directing you to this channel

and then right next to it

i said

[quick hazel]

it redirected me, but went up for some reason without me clicking it

[tiny finch]

"in pins"

[quick hazel]

so that's why it was confusing lol

[tiny finch]

meaning go click on pins

[quaint spire]

so i did 3 books reroll with all the gold I had. I got two copies of E, and 1 glaive swell /sob

But i am litteraly broke now

and still need 2 copies of Z

[tribal iris]

u got 0 Z?

unlucky

1 Z should be kinda enuff though?

[quaint spire]

Nah I want 2 for the corrosion duration

so I can drop Spinning slash

[tribal iris]

yea qol kinda

but its not really a big diff to chase for

[quaint spire]

Yes. You are right in that

1 book id be super happy

but I would still like 2

[tribal iris]

can fuse 1 more leggy in 300 more gold, hoping for 1 more leggy Z

[pallid gulch]

best luck I've had in this game lol

[tribal iris]

[pallid gulch]

goodluck!

[lean ermine]

grats

[quaint spire]

Sheesh

[tribal iris]

are u gonna sell

or use

[pallid gulch]

use

[tribal iris]

big pumping

[pallid gulch]

gz to you also! heard you got one over on NA

I'm more shocked it was 1 tap lol

[lean ermine]

HAHA YEAH I DID!

I got secret, slash x1 and demonic x2

waiting on gems then I roll books again

[mystic herald]

I got my z it feels so nice

[quaint spire]

Must be nice indeed

[outer plume]

Rng betrayed me and gave me 2 glaive swells

[tribal iris]

ok removing spinny without 2nd Z leggy aint it

[quaint spire]

I was looking at that book, then at fist and IM wondering something

Is the Resist Last longe nough that if I do something like this would work:

-Counter first of the triple yellow strike

-Resist the 2nd strike

-Counter the third strike

-Resist the quick red aoe

Would that even work

The Fist boss*

[lean ermine]

It works to resist punch 2

You would have an easier time using E to strife over to iframe the first bash

Err Q

[quaint spire]

I mean i do that sometimes, but it feels like im griefing others playing, cuz when I do it a tiny bit too early the boss does a 180 and hits people

[lean ermine]

One sec

[quaint spire]

And also theres the issue where after the 2nd mech onwards it does a second quick aoe after the 360 red one

[lean ermine]

Ok ok ok so

[tribal iris]

Q > wait Q during red aoe

[lean ermine]

The main problem using counter to iframe punch 2 and the bash

[tribal iris]

SS backwards for the one after red

[lean ermine]

Is getting hit by punch 3

^^^this works great

I personally have always done:
side step punch 3x
Q Bash 1
SS and use 2 at the very end of red AOE
SS 2 iframe covers Bash 2
KD boss

[quaint spire]

Not sure what this means. Do you suggest using Q to go through boss during yellow triple strike, then Q backwards through boss again to aim the red aoe where the boss was attacking with yellows?

Cuz that would be easy to time I think

[tribal iris]

no , u still have to time ur Q for shoulder red

2nd Q is for getting distance for red aoe

[quaint spire]

Thats the thing

Timing Q for shoulder red sucks real bad, I have dad reflexes

And I end up making the boss 180 and hit people

I wanna try avoid that

I wish we had a training room to practice boss patterns

[lean ermine]

You can even

Intentionally get hit by punch 3

Then just Tab the bash

It only works once every 30s or so since the cd on tab is long

But it’s an option if your getting cooked

[quaint spire]

Would a well timed F work too

[lean ermine]

I think so? I’m not sure if it inflicts a stun or an other CC on you…I’d assume it’s f roll able

TLDR 4 options:
Q the bash
SS then 2
SS into the boss
Or get hit by punch 3 and tab it

These are the main ways to avoid the bash in my memory

You can also like do stuff like Q into Q at the end of the red AOE to iframe the Bash 2 like Skyrus said

[mystic herald]

This patch gave me rng blessing,
hajoon gave me main skill, 600g total of 30g boxes and got me a book reroll, hit the z with it and then soverign portraits from hajoon gave me final card for a %cd set.

[tribal iris]

being lucky should be a crime

[lean ermine]

now get one more Z!

[quaint spire]

Nice

I hope I can get atleast 1 z book soonge

[quaint spire]

I also have the pepega idea to have the boss leap to the edge of the arena and have my back to the wall so I collision with it

Whenever I get displaced

[lean ermine]

wall banging is totally fine LOL

i did that all the time when fister and beast first came out

[mystic herald]

Is it actually worth the gm effect idkk

[lean ermine]

HUH

YES

it replaces X

And also gives a 10% crit rate buff

[tribal iris]

for 2 hits

10% cr buff for 2 hits is like 0.8% more effective cr. Its probably the last skill to finish in leggy books.

Spinny slash pretty much gives u a lot more headroom to work with.

[mystic herald]

Yeah i didnt think it was that good for only 2 hits

[lean ermine]

aw thats so sad

I didnt see it was only 2 hits

but still replacing X is nice

[quaint spire]

Makes things like tank ranging Spearguy in BT3 like a breeze I bet

[mystic herald]

The new Z kind of replaces glaive swell, ppl ran glaive for more crit for rotation and less downtime on E. Feels so much better to play lancer now and I don't even use/have glaive.

[rocky grove]

Just created my lvl 50 Dark Lancer, should I equip all the blue books they gave me for now or wait for better accessories?

[young vector]

You'll get winterbane (purple) accessories from the dawncrest story, I would wait for those

[rocky grove]

Aight, thanks mate.

[quaint spire]

If you do that you might struggle a bit with the story early on, before u start getting accessories from it

[polar elm]

Glaive is doodoo

[quaint spire]

Me and the homies hate glaive

[tribal iris]

man these rice farmers arent filling market with enuf Zs

[outer plume]

You should sell yours and gamba some more

[tribal iris]

[tribal iris]

lets go

jst 1 more to go

[night sphinx]

sell it to me. 20k

[tribal iris]

[still jackal]

Is that Z?

pog

[tribal iris]

yes

[still jackal]

I got E

[ember thunder]

lucky

[still jackal]

But lucksacked cardsets

1 jinso 2 rahu 1 zulia

[tribal iris]

still 0 cards

hajoon is my hope

as long as i dont get rk into rk

like laos

[still jackal]

oofas

[random olive]

Z is most expensive?

[tribal iris]

yea rn

it will go down, cause u only need 2 stacks/3

[quaint spire]

2 if lmb only, 3 if using Darkpiercer

[random olive]

Is g wortth using?

[tribal iris]

yes

[random olive]

Off cd?

[tribal iris]

it has a 15min cd..

so yes

[lean ermine]

It’s worth yeah

Soulcore -> G skill

Yummy DPS

[lean ermine]

Z30 stack gang arise

[quaint spire]

Hm is your celestial thunder in terms of % of your dps

I'm curious

[lean ermine]

I’ll check

also as a note: this screenshot is 100% not of my own acquirement. This was from an amazing acquittance that I shall not name

[tribal iris]

is this 1 celestial?

about 2.5% more dmg than stacking 1 more lmb

seems like pretty weak upgrade for DL

[lean ermine]

1 celestial

[quaint spire]

I gotta say, I'd have hoped it was more

I know negi has 48gm in his case, but it's almost a third of his dmg for him

But he's a lot more spammy as a wl than a dl so that might explain it too

Thanks for checking

[vast tangle]

WTS EU

[tribal iris]

3 book does make it 15%

[quaint spire]

And not 33% 😭

[tribal iris]

Well tats wat happen when ur base modifiers are busted

Wl relies more on buffs from soul burn and helix.

Making celestials hit harder.

Being more spammy only allows u to cast the 1st thunder faster

Rest should be used off cd.

I think if u are glaive build, ur thunders might be closer to 20% cause of perma crit buff.

[quaint spire]

Hmmge

[tribal iris]

But kfms are probably the strongest celestial thunder class.

[gentle osprey]

whos wasting his gold?

[young oasis]

Well never know

who of the current whale kfm gonna roll a secret book

[quaint spire]

I keep ranting im not getting the book, maybe theyre coping

I got 3 copies of Release Energy tho

[night sphinx]

biblical levels of greed

[tribal iris]

ikr ROFL

maybe if it was day 1, it was slightly justifiable

[hallow nexus]

what skill book levels do i need in order to have more consistent damage on a new lancer? other than demonic energy release. i find my self just auto attacking when im outside of my E buff

[tribal iris]

48 gm lmb is almsot a must have

[pallid gulch]

probably farmers lol

[tribal iris]

nah farmers are all about quick money

[quaint spire]

Nah its just giga copers

Yes I want it but I dont have an inflation fetish

Google Sonic inflation for more info

[tribal iris]

downfall of the Slash greed makes me happy, offered that guy 15k 3 days ago, he could had his DG and saved his gold.

[tribal iris]

can lmb players stop buying 3 Zs thanks

[night sphinx]

More than 1 z is troll. Why would you buy 3

[tribal iris]

gate keeping 4 enjoyers

[night sphinx]

I can sell you one for 20k tho

[tribal iris]

3 Zs are straight up 0.06% less dps for this lmb person im looking at with 3 Zs

[tribal iris]

im not that desperate anymore, ill wait for the reroll from hajoon next patch for the 1 bound glaive.

although 3 Zs are justifiable when Z is cheaper than lmb

with worse card sets , its gonna be like 1% more dps or sth

[night sphinx]

Z sucks

[tribal iris]

Z sucks

though tbh the moment u miss 1 perma erosion, u end up on a dps loss

[night sphinx]

[quaint spire]

even git gud cant fix that... Z sucks

🧐

[lean ermine]

I’m using 2 Z as LMB only

Threw put my X purple

Out^*

[mystic herald]

Just dont miss forehead

I'm also using just Z and took off my x, if you really need it base x gives 3s of corrosion but I never do. If you dont just blindly throw your z out and you know the fight then you shouldn't be missing regardless

[quaint spire]

Yeah,

Also I just dont like how unresponsive x feels in general so if I can get rid of it, thats good 🙂

[mystic herald]

I noticed you can anicancel the Z but if you try with X you will negate X even going off in the first place

[night sphinx]

x can be ani canceled just fine

[ember ridge]

i found a Glaive Swell Leg, i don't know if i should use it, any advice ?

[quaint spire]

Ya it's just it's not responsive with my macro, but I'll endure it. Will be freed soon with another demonic slash

All good

It's better than a few patches ago

[vast nova]

WTS NA

WTS NA Offer

[vast nova]

WTB Demonic Release

[tribal iris]

miss as in u accidently did 1 lmb without erosion since unless u Z as soon as its up, u lose erosion. but yea u can spinny when u are at 1sec left

[vast nova]

Hello? Help

[sharp marsh]

Wtb legendary Slash skill book

[polar elm]

does the Farstrike effect from Sacred Soul Badge also applies to darkpiercer ?

[tribal iris]

yes

[tribal iris]

hmm, for lmb build , would u be able to always time ur Z with celestial thunder and always have a 60% crit dmg boosted thunders

[lean ermine]

You can time E

with it

not Z sadly

its random chance to get orbs

[quaint spire]

a third Leg slash book could be better than a purple piercing dragon if you dont have enough leg piercing books, maybe?

if you have 2 to range tank anyways

[tribal iris]

it is better than purple, but its not better than a leggy piercing dragon.
Is lmb more expensive than Z in NA? cause in EU they are about the same price. no reason to not just buy the last lmb over another Z which is inferior.

[quaint spire]

. There's never a Z up in Na f5 whenever I check so I assume it's way more expensive

I've been looking to buy for a few days and quite a few other DLs are in the same boat

[tribal iris]

so even less reason to get a 3rd Z over lmb

[jolly shell]

So whats the go to endgame

Gotta start preppin

Do you drop glaive swell

Do you pick up 4 soontm

[tribal iris]

only whales that use 4 are in NA, but never seen them talk in here

all the ones that talk are lmb enjoyers

Glaive is slightly stronger than pure lmb, but the difference isnt that huge if u are at 55% crit from cards

[jolly shell]

I feel 4 would be superior however theres simply no way to cast it freely esp if youre tanking most of the time

[tribal iris]

it really depends on the boss

but once u get the feel for the boss, u can find the spots to fit in 4 without downtimes

wolf/bibong/fist are all doable just fine with 4/4 as tank

[still jackal]

[tribal iris]

even though 4/4 is strong on paper , seein the numbers the lmb build pulls out with 0 risks makes it kinda feel worthless though

[still jackal]

I can't imagine pulling a fully charged 4 every 12 seconds on wolf while tanking

[tribal iris]

u can charge ur 4 during 1st double swipe and after red upper cut slam

the one after double swipe is very leniant window but the red upper cut has to be on point or the frost breath will hit u.

[still jackal]

[tribal iris]

but i guess wolf rotation only allows for Z every 15sec. definitely worse than what you could if u were free dpsing.

give 4 more dmg

[still jackal]

Still, it is terrible when something goes wrong

but big boom

[tribal iris]

would be really nice if hitting a full charge 4 always made the next lmb max boost

[still jackal]

Do 4/ lmb (cancel animation) 4

[tribal iris]

cant with 3 Z

or can u

does it consume charge

[still jackal]

It never goes off but you'll have to test it

You take advantage of the slight gap between 4-4

[tribal iris]

but the animation still has to fully play out no?

[still jackal]

no

Need to find the timing based on ping

[tribal iris]

oh

[still jackal]

[tribal iris]

somehow game crashed when i did it

[still jackal]

[tribal iris]

also cant wait to upgrade to mushin core, this barakal hits consume Z charge when bro doesnt even crit.

[still jackal]

My z still purple, cant relate

[tribal iris]

this is such a big difference maker

[still jackal]

[outer plume]

prolly a bug lol

[quaint spire]

Huh that 4 is way too strong

[night sphinx]

can someone who range tanks bt boss 3 tell me how they deal with the boss counter?

[quaint spire]

The spin after he goes in the air to throw balls at you?

[night sphinx]

Yeah

[tribal iris]

good question, cause we have no extra hits to trigger it instantly

[quaint spire]

So how fast it comes out is based on when the tank hits the boss?

Guess its face tanking time?

[tribal iris]

yea , its a frontal counter

[quaint spire]

Yeah if we didn't have to range you could drop an Azure spear formation sometimes

Not too sure theb

Then*

[tribal iris]

jst have to let one of the 180 iframe classes trigger it

[quaint spire]

I have the spear formation book so I could pop the dr, but I'd still eat a chunk of damage

And it's 36secs cd

I legit have to worry about it now that kr is fixing double crossing

If only we had a slow traveling skill of some sort

[tribal iris]

a bit annoying to do this when u get bad crit rng, since it still consumes 1 charge of demonic.

[still jackal]

I mean, just don't click if you dont crit

[tribal iris]

i meant on lmb crits

[still jackal]

ah yeah

[tribal iris]

1 of the rotation E was still on 3 sec left

need that zulia set badly

[vast tangle]

I'm just waiting that counter pop off :x

Idk how @pallid gulch is doing ? May be a Farstrike ?

[quaint spire]

Think is whatever you do u have to be able to counter/iframe before it hits you, and farstrike is instant with a very long animation lock

So prolly can't counter in time

[tribal iris]

ok might wanna try out real numbers this time and compare 4 vs lmb only

so adding some GM from 102 GM to 234 GM
so lmb current dps 672836 x 2.944 / 2.314 x 2(ping diff) / 1.94 = 882494 dmg
Total dps = 882 + 20

LMB only final dps = 902k DPS.

This is with the lmb ani cancel trick.
So for 4 , its at 78 GM
so at 120 GM = 413991 x 2.44 / 2.058 = 490739

Total dmg = 892.7k DPS , with 3% ping diff margin 919k DPS

all that effort to barely do more dmg and holding lmb

turn off gcd and u will blitz 4 build.

For Glaive build , it be 882x 0.89 ( piercing diff with glaives added) x 1.14 ( crit rate dps differential) x 283.6 / 294.4 (GM diff) = 862k
so final DPS = 862 + 20 + 15.4(glaive dmg?) = 897k DPS

TLDR :

Glaive = 897k DPS
4/4 = 919k DPS
LMB only = 902k DPS

[quaint spire]

? Pardon me but my single braincell doesn't understand what that means

[quaint spire]

What ani cancel trick?

[tribal iris]

thats for 4/4

[tribal iris]

playing with auto bias disabled.

[quaint spire]

Ya but what does blitz mean

[tribal iris]

uh , u will do waay more dps than 4

[quaint spire]

You mean pure LMB Does better without auto bias? At what ping?

[tribal iris]

well its not a crazy difference but at 2 ms i have 123 hits at 1min without auto bias vs 120 hits with bias.

[quaint spire]

I have 22ms at best

I prolly wouldn't see a difference or better with bias on actually

[tribal iris]

yea its whatever, its just the tiny difference makes lmb the strongest build technically.

[quaint spire]

How much GM on demonic slash?

[tribal iris]

48

[jolly meadow]

Are you considering Crit dmg ? 14% cr is not 14% dps

[tribal iris]

yes

its 15% cr

assuming 300% crit dmg

[jolly meadow]

300 is low for dl

If 15% of you hits deal 3x time the damage as before how is it not 30% increase dmg

[tribal iris]

(100x69x3 + 100 x 31) / (100x54x3 + 100x46)

1.144

[tribal iris]

u can put upto 330% and its still only like 7k more dps , would barely beat a pure lmb build.

kinda dumb ngl

[jolly meadow]

Do you have Z 48 ?

[tribal iris]

i do yea

[jolly meadow]

Damn that's hella dumb

[tribal iris]

classic neo balancing

easier the build is to play, more dmg it does

4/4 is only gonna get worse in real fights, cause u sometimes gotta hold it a bit to not get interupted during cast or having to use a CC in b/w.

waay less lifesteal

[jolly meadow]

So lmb only at 53% dps is already better than glave in a perfect +15% cr scenario

[tribal iris]

yup

[jolly meadow]

And you get the E every 12s too ?

[tribal iris]

nah ,u never get E every 12 with neither glaive nor lmb

its like every 15 or so

both of them gets it at similar pace since without glaive, u have extra piercing to get u additional chance at reducing the cd.

[jolly meadow]

You would need like 60%cr ? And it would only make glave worst

[tribal iris]

80% CR* to reset E every 12 sec

i guess glaive might get E slightly faster,
a single E , lmb reduces it by 32sec. glaive reduces it by 36 sec

16.5 sec per E reset on pure lmb , 15 sec per E reset on glaive
36.3% CD from E for lmb , 40% from E for glaive , not that big enough diff i guess.

[night sphinx]

If you reverse the gcd in your pc you can do 3 lmb per seocnd

[tribal iris]

so jst go all in lmb and maybe some celestial, everything else is useless.

nerfing urself to play in 8m by having glaive

[jolly meadow]

I was already convinced they dont test summoner before releasing update now i just think they roll the dice for everybody

If you r at 3lmb/s celestial have a worst scaling

[night sphinx]

5lmb /s if you put kebord uopside down

[quaint spire]

6-7 lmb/s if you know John NcSoft

[mystic herald]

even if 4 is better or slightly better i don't think it's worth overall

one miss cast or fk up and it kinda screws up ur dps

lmb is just so much safer and brian dead overall lol

[quaint spire]

Yes, 4 needs to be a lot ahead in theoretical dmg to even consider using in real scenarios

Some people do enjoy playing it, and thats alright with me

gives more value to farstrike spear books

[mystic herald]

variety is nice, i don't like classes that only have 1 viable build

[young vector]

Unfortunately neo is quite terrible at allowing you to try multiple builds

[tribal iris]

😭 farstrike books are cheaper than trash price here

yea 4/4 has to be like atleast 5-10% ahead on paper to be on even on actual fights

being top dps class means u will be tanking and when u are tanking, u can never have 100% 4/4 usages on 12 sec cd

[quaint spire]

Alright which one of you is responsible for this in NA

💢

[mystic herald]

Anyone thinking they can sell a leggy for anything over 10-11k max at this point in time is smoking some tier F ganja

unless its the special book

[agile cobalt]

Hello. I have a friend who started playing this game, and chosed Dark Lancer. Any guide please?

[jolly meadow]

Check 👏
The 👏
Pin 👏
😉

[lean ermine]

CHECK THE PINS!

YOU GOT THIS!

[agile cobalt]

Thanks. I got it from the pins. I play FM and there were no pins there for a guide

so ehh asked maybe there was also a more up 2 date one

[quaint spire]

At this point i keep posting wtb book so this guy wastes gold on listing

🤡

[inner vortex]

Hi I read through the guide but I didn't really see a suggestion to where to put my skill points in

[vast nova]

ITS ME, IM RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT! IM TROLLING ONLY YOU ! ITS ME !!!!

[quaint spire]

Well it worked. GJ

😭

[polar elm]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-the-evilest-thing-lcánimagine-label-text-sticker-doodle-gif-7132416503932136318

[wispy grail]

if you talking about the points in K menu
put them in same order as books
main dps skills first then just put where you can put

[blissful aurora]

WTB LEG PD PMO

[inner vortex]

Ah ok thanks!

[stable patio]

hi everyone, can someone send the current top 10 DL on the nearest WB please 🙏

[tribal iris]

eu or na

[stable patio]

eu is preferable

[wild swan]

quick question, do you need glaivewell as a lancer or nah

[tribal iris]

yes and no

[wild swan]

so realistically if i just get leggo E, 3 leggo slash and just use the rest on piercings dragon would work ?