Technical Computer Building/Learning

[viscid torrent]

They're both great options

The Asus one is faster, but it's also more expensive

[normal sonnet]

true true

[viscid torrent]

If you have the money for it, I'd say the Asus as the 4070 is a bit more future proof

That said, i'll look at some other sites

Maybe some other stores have better deals

[normal sonnet]

hmm i think ill see which one i do have a laptop though its been along time with it though lol but its so like not technically working i mean it does for some parts i mean like the keyborad some keys dont work and the touchpad cant click nothing only scroll ugh mine its a lenovo yoga 710-15IKB

true true and thank you

[viscid torrent]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16834156651

I think this is probably the most interesting option

It's cheaper than the Asus but it has a faster processor

Alternatively if you want to spend a little less, https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-g6x-9kg-43us854sh-16-0-intel-core-i7-13650hx-16gb-geforce-rtx-4060-1tb-pcie-gunmetal-gray/p/N82E16834233580

These two are your best options, ignore the Bestbuy ones I sent earlier :P

[normal sonnet]

the other 2 laptops on bestbuy do hey have windows 11

lmao

[viscid torrent]

Yes

But you can ignore those

These two from Newegg are much more interesting

[normal sonnet]

hmm never heard of that newegg website is it reliable or trustworthy i mean like bestbuy

[viscid torrent]

Newegg is one of the biggest tech stores in the US

As far as I'm aware

[normal sonnet]

oh wow

[viscid torrent]

So yeah, can't go wrong with either of those two Newegg options

[normal sonnet]

wat about this one this laptop https://www.bestbuy.com/site/gigabyte-g6x-16-165hz-gaming-laptop-ips-intel-i7-13650hx-with-32gb-ram-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-1tb-ssd-black/6576649.p?skuId=6576649

[viscid torrent]

Basically identical to the Newegg one, but you're paying $150 for 16GB more memory, it's much cheaper replacing it by yourself

[viscid torrent]

It's still good, but the price gets really close to that 4070 laptop on Newegg...

[sick girder]

someone know why Inzoi shop say ryzen 7 5800 everyone say 5700X3D is better '-'

[viscid torrent]

What's Inzoi Shop?

And well, what's better all depends on your usecase

[light sun]

Doubt there's a big difference looking online the 5800 has a slightly higher boost clock than the 5700

I think the 5700x3d might actually be better

it depends on the use case (and nobody has posted any benchmarks for Inzoi), but generally x3d is better than non-x3d for gaming because the hardware is optimized for that (it has a big cache)

[viscid torrent]

For games the 5700X3D is miles ahead, not even a competition there

For things such as editing, rendering, etc. the 5800 will come a little bit ahead

But if you have any interest in gaming, even if it's tiny, then the 5700X3D is much more interesting

[sick girder]

I hzve it 🤭

[sudden portal]

Hii I was tryna order my laptop but it’s outta stock but can this handle inzoi?

ACER Predator Helios Neo PHN16-71-78Y5 GeForce RTX™ 4060 Intel® Core™ i7 Laptop (Obsidian Black)
ACER
PREDATOR HELIOS NEO 16 PHN16-71-78Y5 OBSIDIAN BLACK (NH.QLUSP.005) INTEL CORE
I7-13700HX/16GB DDR5 4800MHZ/512GB NVME PCIE SSD/NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX4060 8GB
GDDR6/16" WQXGA IPS 165HZ/WINDOWS 11 HOME SL 64BIT/MS OFFICE HOME &
STUDENT 2021/WEBCAM/RGB BACK
It’s the same one?

[viscid torrent]

Can you link it?

Since just a long name with random stuff in it is inconvenient

But if it's the same price as the one that we found that's out of stock then yes, it's good

[sudden portal]

Lemme send it rq

1,149.99. USD

[viscid torrent]

The previous one was 1000 no?

[sudden portal]

Uhm I believe so it’s not letting me see it since it’s outta stock

But I think it is 1000

[viscid torrent]

I'll have a look at what else is available to be shipped to ph. Because 1150 is too much for that I'd say

[sudden portal]

Alr ty

[viscid torrent]

I think the 1000 might have been a sale price maybe and the sale ended

[sudden portal]

Oh ok

[viscid torrent]

@sudden portal https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Katana-144Hz-Gaming-Laptop/dp/B0CXVGSY2H

It's not the fastest laptop when it comes to graphics power around this price. But it is by far the best value due to the extra memory and fast processor.
That said, not the fastest graphics wise doesn't mean it's slow, it's still really fast, it's just that some other laptops are a tiny bit faster

If I were in your shoes, I'd buy this

[sudden portal]

Ya I might jst go w that but I found this what do u think abt this?

https://a.co/d/fWmlQgT

Or this

[viscid torrent]

You were looking at around $1000 no?

The first one is just too expensive. You're paying a lot extra just for the processor

The second one, there's much better pricing wise when it comes to 4070 laptops

[high spindle]

@last walrus

https://a.co/d/7e21pxy

here ya go

[wide badge]

Anyone know a good laptop pc that’s is good to play games on I have a budget of $700 the most

[high spindle]

I’ll take a look for you real quick

[wide badge]

Thank you

[high spindle]

As close as I could get so that It would be worth playing. Being honest with you.

https://a.co/d/7RYzFah

[wide badge]

Funny vin I was just looking at that one thanks 🤍I appreciate you helping me

[high spindle]

If you could afford this instead, I would go for it. I’m kinda iffy on Intel CPUs ESPECIALLY in laptops.

https://a.co/d/6uZezZk

[wide badge]

I could do that one it just going to take me a couple more months to save up but if it’s worth then I’ll get that one

[high spindle]

Yea, you should be solid with that one. HANG on to your warranty. If it gives you ANY problems, don’t take it to best buy or anything. Just trade it out.

[wide badge]

Okay thank you again vin

[high spindle]

Np at all!

[heady quail]

Does anyone know where I can find a really good prebuilt for inzoi if asked alot but now that the release date is soon I wanna save and have it by then

I’d prefer to have a 4070 gpu but a 4060 would do and over 16gb or ram

I’m not open to anything suggesting to build it on my own, it’s not for me.

[high spindle]

There’s some good options above ☝🏾

Unless you mean an actual tower..

[heady quail]

Yah the actual tower I already have a laptop but it’s getting old

[viscid torrent]

This is a very bad recommendation. It has a 45w 4050 which is extremely slow and will struggle a lot with running games. At least recommend a laptop with a proper 4050 and not one that is barely functioning :P
Such as https://a.co/d/jgTai3i which has a 105w 4050 which is about 30-40% faster @wide badge

[viscid torrent]

What's your budget and where are you located? I can have a look :)

[heady quail]

I’m located in the US my budget is nothing over 1000

Anything to run inzoi smoothly and if so will be able to handle mods for it

[high spindle]

I made more than one recommendation. And negative, not necessarily. That’s like saying a 5.0ghz CPU is automatically better than a 4.2 ghz CPU. Or the fact that the 5090 has a power draw higher than the 4090 it’s makes it automatically better.

It could mean the processor with the lower power draw is just more efficient. It has to be tested first. The rig should be tested first.

Now what is ACTUALLY problematic is that 6gb vram size which you failed mention. Oh and the fact that her budget of $700 is pretty tough. Either way, it’s a good thing I made TWO recommendations right?

[viscid torrent]

No

Just, no

Give me a minute and I can explain

[high spindle]

Yes, a 5.0 GHz CPU can be less powerful than a 3.2 GHz CPU, depending on several factors beyond clock speed. Here’s why:

1. Architecture Differences
   • CPU architecture plays a significant role in performance. A newer CPU with a lower clock speed (e.g., 3.2 GHz) can outperform an older CPU running at 5.0 GHz due to improvements in efficiency, instruction sets, and overall design.

Example: A modern AMD Ryzen 7 or Intel Core i7 at 3.2 GHz will likely outperform an older 5.0 GHz Pentium 4.

2. Core Count and Threads
   • The number of cores and threads is critical. A 3.2 GHz CPU with 8 cores and 16 threads can handle more simultaneous tasks than a 5.0 GHz CPU with 4 cores and 4 threads.

Example: A Ryzen 7 7700X (3.2 GHz base clock, 8 cores) would outperform an Intel i5-7600K (5.0 GHz, 4 cores) in multitasking or multi-threaded workloads.

3. IPC (Instructions Per Cycle)
   • IPC refers to how many instructions a CPU can execute per clock cycle. A 3.2 GHz CPU with high IPC can execute more instructions per second than a 5.0 GHz CPU with lower IPC.

Example: Intel 12th/13th Gen or AMD Zen 3 CPUs have much higher IPC compared to older CPUs, even at lower clock speeds.

4. Cache Size
   • Larger cache sizes can improve performance by reducing the time needed to access frequently used data. A 3.2 GHz CPU with more cache can outperform a 5.0 GHz CPU with less cache in certain tasks.

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5. Power Efficiency and Thermal Throttling
   • A 5.0 GHz CPU may generate more heat, leading to thermal throttling, which reduces performance under sustained load. A 3.2 GHz CPU with better thermal efficiency can maintain stable performance longer.

6. Workload Type
   • Some workloads benefit more from higher clock speeds (e.g., gaming or single-threaded tasks), while others benefit from more cores or better IPC (e.g., rendering or video encoding). A 3.2 GHz CPU with modern architecture might excel in multi-threaded tasks compared to an older 5.0 GHz CPU optimized for single-threaded tasks.

Summary

Clock speed is just one piece of the puzzle. For a more accurate comparison, you must consider:
• Architecture
• Core count and threads
• IPC
• Cache size
• Thermal performance

If you’re deciding between CPUs, benchmarks in real-world tasks or games can provide a clearer picture of actual performance

[viscid torrent]

If you're going to ChatGPT whatever it is you want to say at least do it properly

Because this isn't about CPU's at all

[high spindle]

Yes, a 50-watt GPU can be more powerful than a 150-watt GPU, depending on various factors beyond power consumption. Wattage indicates power usage, not necessarily performance. Here’s why this can happen:

1. GPU Architecture
   • Modern GPUs are more power-efficient due to advancements in architecture. A 50-watt GPU based on a newer architecture can outperform a 150-watt GPU based on an older design.

Example:
• NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 (50W, Turing architecture) is less powerful than an NVIDIA RTX 3050 (50W, Ampere architecture).
• Comparatively, a newer GPU may beat an older, power-hungry one even if it draws less power.

2. Process Node (Nanometer Technology)
   • Smaller process nodes (e.g., 5nm or 7nm) allow GPUs to achieve higher performance at lower power consumption. A 50-watt GPU built on a smaller node could outperform a 150-watt GPU with older, less efficient technology.

Example: AMD RX 6600 (7nm) may outperform the older AMD RX 580 (14nm) despite similar power draw.

3. Core Configuration
   • The number of CUDA cores (NVIDIA), stream processors (AMD), or ray accelerators matters. A low-wattage GPU with a higher core count and better efficiency can outperform a higher-wattage GPU with fewer or outdated cores.

4. Memory Type and Bandwidth
   • Faster memory (e.g., GDDR6 vs. GDDR5) and higher memory bandwidth can make a big difference. A 50-watt GPU with GDDR6 memory can outperform a 150-watt GPU with slower or less efficient GDDR5 memory.

5. Specific Use Case
   • GPUs are optimized for different tasks. A 50-watt GPU designed for AI processing or rendering may outperform a 150-watt GPU designed primarily for gaming in those specific workloads.

6. Performance Metrics
   • FP32 Throughput: Newer GPUs can have higher floating-point performance even with lower power consumption.
   • Ray Tracing and DLSS: Modern GPUs include hardware-accelerated ray tracing and AI upscaling, making them more powerful in supported applications regardless of wattage.

7. Power Efficiency
   • Power consumption doesn’t always correlate with performance. A 150-watt GPU may waste a lot of energy as heat, while a 50-watt GPU could achieve higher performance-per-watt.

Real-World Example
• 50W GPU: NVIDIA RTX A2000 (Ampere architecture, 50W)
• Designed for professional workloads and efficient rendering.
• Can outperform older GPUs like GTX 970 (150W) in specific tasks.
• 150W GPU: GTX 970
• An older GPU with higher power consumption and less efficient architecture.

Conclusion

While wattage can give a general idea of power usage, performance depends on architecture, memory, cores, and specific optimizations. A 50-watt GPU can absolutely outperform a 150-watt GPU if it’s built on newer, more efficient technology. Always compare benchmarks for the specific use case you’re considering.

[high spindle]

Ma’am! I know what I’m talking about because I’ve made the same mistake as you before, assuming that a less powerful efficient component means it’s more powerful.

Now that isn’t saying that it cannot be more powerful. I’m just saying you making that assumption is wildly incorrect. The only issue with that suggestion I made for the PRICE POINT; was the VRAM and Intel CPU which may prove unstable in the long run.

I appreciate discussing this stuff with you though. Honestly, you can learn something from everyone 😊

[viscid torrent]

Ok, first of all, throwing random stuff into ChatGPT without even knowing what it is you want to know is not going to help you here

The point of discussion here is the laptop RTX 4050 are different TGP's

Not CPU's, their speeds, and their architectures, vice versa for GPU's

That does not matter here in the slightest

[high spindle]

Waffle, quick question…

[viscid torrent]

Besides that, both the laptops you linked are well above the mentioned $700 target price range

The MSI laptop has a 45 watt 4050, which is really slow no matter how you look at it and will struggle with games. A 4050 running at 105w like in the Lenovo laptop I linked will be about 30-40% faster

This information in based on actual numerous benchmarks of the laptop 4050 at various wattages

So none of the ChatGPT information you just copy pasted here is of any value

Additionally, the faster Lenovo laptop is also much closer to the $700 budget than both of your options

[high spindle]

Does a more power hungry CPU or GPU equate a more powerful processor?

And is a lower VRAM, no matter what a bottleneck for good graphical performance in a video game?

Yes or nos.

Btw, I ONLY used chatgpt so you wouldn’t refute the point. So you know I wasn’t just talking out of my butt. Which you still dismissed lol.

[viscid torrent]

It's the same identical GPU as in your recommendation, what are you on about

So you saying it's a bad recommendation because of X and Y, then why would you recommend it yourself?

The reason I'm calling the laptop you mentioned a bad recommendation is as I explained due to the low wattage variant of the 4050 being in there. It's just not a good product, especially not when you can get significantly faster laptops for less money

And as I said, every single thing you copy pasted from ChatGPT does not matter, because it's the same GPU

Eventually there will no longer be a performance gain from increasing the wattage on a 4050 yes, but that ceiling is hit at around 100w, below that you will see a noticable performance difference in wattage

Same with the 4060, a laptop running a 4060 at 45w will be significantly slower than a laptop running the 4060 at 120w

40 series laptop cards, anything below 100w you're losing out on performance

Or well, 50/60/70

The 4080 and 4090 will see performance increases no matter how much you increase the wattage

[high spindle]

My problem was the assumption, but it is the same architecture.

The first one I found was a quick search though. How about in the future, you just recommend something else without the “That’s a really bad…recommendation bit”

I could do the same to your recommendations and it would just be tit for tat all day.
That’s pretty counterintuitive and a futile exercise. That’s what I’m going on about.

[viscid torrent]

No, if you recommend a bad product to someone why would I not be allowed to say it's a bad recommendation?

I even elaborated as to why it's a bad recommendation, so I don't see any issues with that

If I recommend for someone to buy product X, but product Y exist which is better for the same price or less I'd expect to be called out on my recommendation being poor as well

[high spindle]

Because its not a bad recommendation. That's subjective. You just found a better one. This is about helping people not going tit for tat for an ego boost.

Like I said, I can go WELL ACTUALLY all day to you too and it would be counterintuitive. What am I not explaining well enough?

[viscid torrent]

No, it's not subjective

If you literally look at the numbers, it's not a good laptop

[high spindle]

Okay, you’re right

[viscid torrent]

The laptop itself is slow, and you can buy faster laptops for less money. How would it subjectively be bad

[high spindle]

👌🏾

[viscid torrent]

if I could buy an RTX 4060 for $1600, or an RTX 4090 for $1500, would the 4060 be bad then, yes, and that's not subjective

[high spindle]

Now what you think about the 5090 hitting 28-34fps at raw performance. Trash right?

[viscid torrent]

Well, Blackwell architecture wise from what has been told so far is effectively an Ada refresh kinda but with more AI cores, so it's to be expected that the raster performance isn't really much better

Which is unfortunately the way the GPU market is going

[viscid torrent]

But anways, if a recommendation is bad, I don't see why one would have to tip toe around that

[high spindle]

But we vote with our wallets. So why can’t we just call it what it is? A rip-off. lol

A bad deal…

[viscid torrent]

As long as it's explained why ofc and not just "that sucks" and then no elaboration

[viscid torrent]

I mean, I'm too poor to buy a 5090 anyways :^)

Or well, I'm not, but I'm not going to buy a 5090, I don't need that

I'm just curious about the 70 series and the stuff AMD is cooking up, as that's a lot more reasonable price wise

[high spindle]

5070 was the butt of everyone’s jokes at first but TO ME it’s looking like a GREAT deal for anyone that needs an upgrade from 4060 and below or even 4070 for that matter.

An actual STEAL

[viscid torrent]

The 5070 looks amazing, the only issue I have with it is the 12GB of vram, because I'm not sure how future proof that is with current games already eating up 8GB vram like it's nothing

And I'm not sure how much the higher memory speeds will really help alleviate that

[dire crane]

Hello, what component does the case need to work?

[high spindle]

Yup, you’re right but considering the Frame gen 4 tech. It will come in handy when that is the issue.

[viscid torrent]

Yeah, the new DLSS seems to lower vram usage as well

[high spindle]

_The main concern for me would be the latency. It seems to me the more compensation there is with “Fake frames” the worse the latency will be. _

[viscid torrent]

I'm really curious about AMD though

Because the 9070 XT sounds like it could either be the most amazing thing since sliced bread, or just a huge flop

[high spindle]

What do you mean? For lights etc…just a PSU that has enough headroom for everything.

[high spindle]

Let me take a look

[high spindle]

It’s rumored to have 16gb or VR though…

[viscid torrent]

It is, but FSR 4, even though so far it seem to be really good. It's just not DLSS

And AMD has also always been behind with ray tracing and AI stuff, so we'll have to see

[high spindle]

Yea, it’s crazy how they’re always playing catch-up like that. You know what I’ve always wondered though?!

Why don’t they ever just make a GPU with like 64gb of VRAM. I know there literally a physical space on the card as a limitation but surely they realize that’s usually the limiting factor for really high fidelity in games.

[dire crane]

The things a PC must have to work

[high spindle]

Oh you mean in general?

Like all components required?

[viscid torrent]

Well, those kind of cards do exist but for servers and such that actually need that kind of vram. Consumers generally don't really need that which is why consumer oriented cards tend to be on the "lower" side in terms of vram

[high spindle]

Operating system, Motherboard, CPU, GPU, PSU, Ram, case cooling, CPU cooling and Storage and obviously your I/o (keyboard, mouse and monitor)

What am I missing @viscid torrent

[high spindle]

Speak for yourself lol, I want to run Cyberpunk 2077 Ultra setting, path tracing enabled at 8k res and I still want 60fps (No frame gen or Upscaling) 🙃👌🏾

[viscid torrent]

Well, extra vram isn't going to help with that, you need raster performance, but it seems like we're slowly reaching a limit on how much performance increases we can get for now :P

[viscid torrent]

If $1000 is your max then I'd look at either one of these; https://www.newegg.com/p/83-630-067 or https://www.newegg.com/yeyian-ypi-ta44f0c-46t1n-tanto/p/N82E16883630058

[dire crane]

Yess

[dire crane]

Thanks

[dire crane]

Thank you very much I really needed it

[sick girder]

Hey someone have suggestion of motherboard i have actually MSI B550 A-PRO with 5700X3D and 6750XT and 32gb of ddr4 ram i want change motherboard for the futur to know what to buy because i'm AM4 only actually '-'

[viscid torrent]

Why do you want to change your motherboard? You don't really gain anything out of doing that

[sick girder]

Because dont want change cpu + motherboard same time 😦

[viscid torrent]

Well, you have to

If you upgrade your motherboard you need to get a new cpu and new ram as well

There's zero reason to upgrade any of it though as the 5700X3D is amazing

[high spindle]

You could get better storage and ram speeds. But would have to be compatible with that ram/ Storage.

[high spindle]

Yea, you have a DDR4 MB which means if you plan on going to DDR5 it would be a different chipset…

But if it’s the same chipset shouldn’t be a problem. I don’t see the point in that case though 🤷🏾‍♂️

[high spindle]

Rarely when you upgrade your MB you don’t have to replace anything else…exception being faulty MB (Cracked..etc).

In Your case though based on that DDR4…that’s telling me you probably have an older chipset…so no performance gain for you unless somehow the new MB supports higher OC speeds on your ram (diminishing returns).

[viscid torrent]

Or you know, the part where they name the motherboard and cpu gives away what chipset it is :P

But yeah, spending money on a new AM4 board when you already have one is pointless. Going AM5 means getting a new cpu and ram, and you'll abrely notice anything in terms of performance gains due to how good the 5700X3D is. Best of waiting for AM6 most likely

[heady quail]

https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-005R-00018

That one is almost 100$ over my budget I can deal with that, is that good?

Inzoi wouldn’t be the only game I play on there but I want to play with the second to highest settings on there and also make gameplay videos

I also plan on still playing the sims but with little mods, fortnite, Cyberpunk 2077, GTA (when available on pc), VR chat, second life, spider man, rdr2 etc.

With all of that being said would this pc also give me a few years with it??

I’m also considering that

[viscid torrent]

https://www.newegg.com/yeyian-ypi-ta44f0c-46t1n-tanto/p/N82E16883630058 This one is more interesting then

Or alternatively this one https://www.microcenter.com/product/685640/msi-codex-r2-a13nud5-265us-gaming-pc

[high spindle]

Referring to iterations of motherboards in terms of pcie slots speeds, ram speeds etc..

I’ve only used Intel chipsets so; the features are what stand out to me. Ya dig?!

Man you are beyond argumentative about ANYTHING. I wish you well 🤦🏾‍♂️👌🏾

[viscid torrent]

Well, B550 only comes with one variety of pcie generation and ddr spec as far as I'm aware

[high spindle]

That’s fine, which is why I used the DDR4 as a point of reference for what type of performance we’re talking about.

Hence There’s not way you’re going to get DDR5 memory capacity and speeds without upgrading the board as well.

[viscid torrent]

Well, ddr spec isn't entirely indicative of platform performance

[high spindle]

Did I say it was?

[viscid torrent]

Yes, you did

[high spindle]

Lmbo

BrUH, communication with you is impossible. It’s like you only hear and see what you want to see.

Your perspective is the only thing that matters 🤣. Look up cognitive dissonance.

I’ll go talk to another wall, I bid you good day 👌🏾

[viscid torrent]

?

I'm sorry? We're just having a normal conversation no?

Did I say something wrong?

Like, are we not just chatting?

@heady quail Another option could be to have Microcenter build a pc for you, such as https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=3c7a18b6-0e1b-494e-b7c4-9e720655b65f

[slow oxide]

In which AM6 is probably going to happen in 4-5 years, going by the track record of AM4 or earlier ones like AM3+

So yeah, moving to AM5 would be the better choice if you’re changing motherboards

and to add to the RAM note, AM5 only uses DDR5 at the moment, which it’s lowest speed (5600mhz) is equivalent to a high-end DDR4 speed (5400mhz)

[wanton sandal]

I'm a bit sad about the smartzoi, I just built an all amd rig because I play a lot of vrchat and need 16gb VRAM minimum to run it smoothly at the events I go to and nvidia just cannot give me that at a good price 🥲

(apologies if this isn't the right place btw!)

[slow oxide]

Now it’s probably even worse because they’ll probably bar ACE to 50-series cards only like in the early days of Hairworks

[viscid torrent]

If you're already on a 5700X3D the gains you're getting from going to AM5 are so minimal though

[sick girder]

Yu

[sick girder]

Am4

[open musk]

Hi all. I searched chat history and found some old comments about Intel XeSS and how it wasn't supported in the game. Were there any news regarding added support for XeSS on release?
I am swapping my RTX2070 for a B580, and I'm worried that I won't get good graphics performance, as B580 is not quite the recommended RTX3070Ti and AFAIK the recommended specs target 1080p... I'm playing at 1440p.
If XeSS is not happening, perhaps FSR is on the table at least?

[normal sonnet]

Sorry for asking once again: Guys is this a great pc or well laptop to get for inzoi and sims 4 thanks for ur opinion https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sku/6576649.p?skuId=6576649&sb_share_source=PDP

[high spindle]

Looks like a solid choice to me. Just wish it was at least 1440 resolution display for that price!

That’s just a personal preference though

[viscid torrent]

Yes yes

[normal sonnet]

Thank u both

[slow oxide]

Best case scenario we’ll get TSR (which is an okay option for most games), or even better an option to supersample (aka running render resolution above the display resolution)

Worst case scenario, we’ll only get FSR 1/2 and DLSS 4 only (knowing the recent sponsoring by Nvidia, this is highly likely to happen)

and resorting to XeSS/FSR 4 wrapper mods

[viscid torrent]

I can see FSR3.1 being implemented. FSR4, who knows

[lyric bobcat]

Hello good afternoon to whoever is reading this message, my question is whether the 8GB RTX 2060 Super still runs inzoi above 30 frames because I have this configuration and I hope to be able to play the game in early access

[slow oxide]

would run it on med-low 1080p

although keep textures a bit low because of your VRAM

[heady quail]

I have yhe same but 12GB I think

[heady quail]

Would this be the same case for me?

[lyric bobcat]

but in the demo it runs very well in medium-high maybe because it's a demo right?, and in medium-low will it run above 30 fps?

[slow oxide]

It's a 2060S, equivalent to a RX6600XT at best

[heady quail]

I plan on freeing up space aswell I still have my broken mods folder in my files lol

If I play sims again i would use light mode and then have inzoi

[slow oxide]

win+R then type in "dxdiag"

[heady quail]

Idk if I’ll have a new pc by March but I am saving. I don’t wanna miss gameplay tho

[heady quail]

Sorry if you don’t mind me asking what does this do

[lyric bobcat]

although it has the FSR

[slow oxide]

opening the graphics cards section of it

[heady quail]

I just wanna know if my specs are okay to run the game :3

[heady quail]

Oh okay

[slow oxide]

like this

nah it'll run with loads of DLSS crammed onto it

[lyric bobcat]

running "well" is great

[heady quail]

I don’t have a win button on my keyboard

[slow oxide]

it's the one between the left ctrl and left alt button

has windows logo on it

[slow oxide]

way better if it's the 12GB one

basically on par with mine which runs med-high 2K

[last walrus]

Ahh, u talkin bout Paralives man?

[lyric bobcat]

it cannot ?

[last walrus]

Wym?

[lyric bobcat]

If you couldn't, sorry bro

[heady quail]

I think I have 16 GB

[last walrus]

I’m gettin Paralives, u too?

[lyric bobcat]

Yes

[heady quail]

Yes I have 16GB of RAM

[lyric bobcat]

I will buy Inzoi when it comes out, if unfortunately it doesn't run on my PC I will ask for a refund on Steam and wait for me to upgrade and play it because I waited so long for the game that even if I spend a lot I will play Inzoi lol

[slow oxide]

but with the ACE hardware requirement still hidden, we're not sure atm

[last walrus]

Nah, just save InZoi in ur Steam Library, so u would’ve already purchased it when upgrading.

[slow oxide]

because if ACE is mandatory for the game, then Radeon/Intel GPU people like myself would need to make workarounds for that

[lyric bobcat]

How long will it take me to upgrade because in Brazil things are not cheap and it is better for me to pay the money and buy another game until I upgrade

[last walrus]

Ahhh, I see dude. I don’t know how long it’ll take to upgrade cause I don’t have a PC at the moment. If it was me, I’ll still buy InZoi and save it in my Steam library since when upgrading, it will already be in my library

[lyric bobcat]

until the official launch we will play 🙏🏻

[slow oxide]

It would be even worse If it only works with the 50-series GPU only

[lyric bobcat]

good guy

[slow oxide]

because I still got bad memories from Witcher 3 and Hairworks

[lyric bobcat]

yes it would be horrible

[heady quail]

So overall how do these specs look

[slow oxide]

for running the game in general? pretty okay for 60FPS with a few tweaks
for running the game with ACE? no chance

[heady quail]

ACE?

[slow oxide]

the new AI NPC thing that Nvidia made

[heady quail]

Oh so I can’t utilize the smart zoi feature

I really hope they lower requirements so many people may have to wait to play omg

[viscid torrent]

ACE is not mandatory

It has been mentioned that it's completely optional

And at the start will be a beta feature as well

[slow oxide]

but what’s really concerning to me is the devs probably not putting FSR 4/XeSS in the game, because of the NV sponsorship.

like almost every NV-sponsored title ever

[viscid torrent]

Who knows

[high spindle]

Good Morning Mr. Mikaelson! lol

Short answer, yes but at Lower settings without any tweaking or OC of your setup.

Anyone ever try to render anything in 8k on their 4090?

What’s your average rate for say 15min footage?

[wet zinc]

What’s the deal with Nvidia’s Smart Zoi feature? I assume it will only be available on RTX graphics cards, which makes sense—just like other Nvidia features such as Ray Tracing and DLSS. That part I understand. But it’s not clear at all whether this AI feature will be available for all RTX card owners or just select models. The minimum requirement to run the game InZoi is RTX 2060. Does that mean Smart Zoi will also work on that older card? And what about the RTX 30 and 40 series? Or will this feature be exclusive to the newest and most expensive RTX 50 series, which only a small number of players will have when InZoi launches?

Honestly, I find it concerning that Nvidia has released information about Smart Zoi, including trailers and videos on YouTube, but I haven’t seen any details on which cards will actually support it. I own an RTX 3080, and I’d be pretty disappointed if it weren’t supported. Based on the reactions I’ve seen, a huge number of people are excited about this feature. If it turns out to be limited to the RTX 50 series, it could lead to massive disappointment. Nvidia really should have clarified which cards will be supported when they announced the feature to avoid confusion and unmet expectations.

Right now, it seems like a lot of people assume Smart Zoi will be available for all RTX cards. If that’s not the case, we could see a big wave of frustration because people are excited for something they might not even be able to use—especially since there’s no easily accessible information about this anywhere.

[high spindle]

I would say that feature will end up being more CPU intensive unless you have a Blackwell card which will probably lighten the workload significantly.

Maybe that’s why they’re not too worried about it.

[viscid torrent]

As long as there's no details on it, nobody knows the requirements for Smart Zoi or how demanding it is

So unfortunately we'll have to wait

[tame stump]

right now im using a replacement pc mines in the shop and when i get my pc back i want to upgrade it and i setteled on the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 and the replacement currently uses the gtx 1650 and my real pc gpu is integrated so will the 4090 work with inzoi

[viscid torrent]

It will work yes

[tame stump]

my pc thats in the shop has an 3050 RTX will it work or should i just go on with my plan to upgrade it

[viscid torrent]

It'll work, the 3050 is just pretty slow so it might not the the greatest experience you know

So like lower graphics settings and fps

[tame stump]

ok

[sick girder]

Hey, idk if already send this question when is the best gpu for a 5700X3D?

i'm playin at 1080p '-'

[viscid torrent]

As long as Inzoi isn't out it's difficult to say what would be good for that game. But for games in general then the Arc B580, RTX 4060, or RX 7600 are all good options for 1080p if you need something right now

[sick girder]

Thanks

[viscid torrent]

Alternatives if you have more money to spend could be the RTX 4060 Ti or RX 7700 XT

[sick girder]

do 7600 is good for raytracing with other game?

I Have like 30 fps with ultra & medium raytracing in cyberpunk for exemple with 6750XT

[viscid torrent]

7600 isn't that good with raytracing. If you really want raytracing then the 4060 would be the better option. But keep in mind that raytracing is really heavy and the 4060 will still struggle with that

[sick girder]

Oki

[viscid torrent]

You have a 6750 XT now?

[sick girder]

yup

[viscid torrent]

Because then going to like a 4060 or something similar is kinda pointless

If you want something better then you'd be looking at like an RTX 4070 Super or better

[sick girder]

Oki thank '-'

so expensive 4070 than my last 1070 😭

i got 6750XT for same price

[viscid torrent]

So yeah, if you want to see any meaningful performance increase then like a minimum of a 4070 Super is basically what you're looking at

[latent stream]

Will a RTX 4060 and a ryzen 5800x run inzoi on recommended? Xx

[viscid torrent]

As long as the game isn't released that will be difficult to say. But my guess will be yes

The 4060 is slower than the recommended 3070 so it could be that you can't comfortably play at the highest settings. But it most likely will be very capable of properly running the game

[latent stream]

Thank you, it's just i need to upgrade my PC, ill see if I can get something higher x

[viscid torrent]

Can always wait with upgrading to see how the game runs on your current system :)

[latent stream]

What does it mean, to be a factory overlooked card?

And my current system is ryzen 5 2600 lol and graphics is 1660 super lol

[viscid torrent]

It just means that's it's a little but faster than the "reference model" so to say

[latent stream]

Ah thank you, that makes sense now ^^

[latent stream]

I'm hearing alot about vram, where does it mention that you need 8gb of vram? There's no requirement on the steam page x

[slow oxide]

well thats the rule of thumb about games these days, that are pretty hungry in VRAM, so you’ll probably need 11GB at minimum for cranking a decent quality

[latent stream]

Why is it that more vram is so expensive, I'm looking at another £150 to get a 16gb of Vram, rather than the 8gb.

I was hoping to get the 8gb 4060ti @slow oxide

[slow oxide]

You’re better off getting a secondhand RX6700XT with 12GB of VRAM for ~£260

more-less same raster performance as a 4060ti with 4GB more VRAM

the 16GB 4060ti is pretty hard to come by (hence the price)

or if you want a new card, there’s the Arc B580 for ~£290

[latent stream]

Oooo thank you

[viscid torrent]

If you want something new the 7700 XT could also be an interesting option, more expensive than the Arc B580 but also quite a bit faster still

But used the RX 6700 XT or 6750 XT are really interesting options as well

[wide badge]

Are this laptops good for the game I also don’t know anything about specs so yea

[high spindle]

Lenovo LOQ is good for decent performance on InZoi. Is there none with An nvme SSD instead of Flash?

[viscid torrent]

MSI Thin series have very low power variants of the GPU's in them so I can't recommend them

The Lenovo LOQ is fine

4050 is not that fast but should be able to run everything without issues, especially the one in the LOQ as it's properly powered :)

[wide badge]

Thanks guys

[sick girder]

for info i have 6750XT i have same fps with 5700X3D in cyberpunk 🙂

[slow oxide]

the 2025 LOQs is pretty issue free at the moment, watch out for the 2024 LOQs though, lots of issue with that MY

[grizzled path]

guys i have 8gb ram im planing to upgrade it but not soon can i still run the game

[wide badge]

Thanks for letting me know

[sick girder]

I think no because for exemple gta freeze with only 8gb

[latent stream]

@sick girder it shouldn't do, i have 8gb and an older processor and graphics card, and GTA runs perfectly fine on mine

[south pine]

Would this PC run it?

[high spindle]

Yes it will

[south pine]

Do you know if it’s just meeting standers or at like matching if that makes sense

[viscid torrent]

That's a lot of money for such an "ancient" system

1200 for an 11700 pc in 2025, wild

[south pine]

Any suggestions

[viscid torrent]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-slatemesh-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-7-7700-32gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-7700xt-12gb-1tb-nvme-ssd-black/6576683.p?skuId=6576683 or https://www.bestbuy.com/site/yeyian-phoenix-iron-mesh-gaming-desktop-intel-i5-14400f-nvidia-rtx-4070-32gb-ddr5-1tb-ssd-nvme-gen-4-0-black/6600360.p?skuId=6600360 are much better deals for about the same price :)

Graphics performance is very similar, the processors on both are much newer and faster however ^^

[south pine]

So you would recommend this one over the other?

[viscid torrent]

Either of these two will be better options than the one you linked :)

The ibuypower one has a slightly slower gpu but faster cpu, and the other one the opposite, slightly faster gpu but slower cpu

Both are good

So I suppose whichever one you like the looks of more

[south pine]

Thank you!

[primal karma]

Good morning I'm thinking of changing my computer to run the game but being bad at processors I prefer to ask so as not to buy for nothing Do you think that with an AMD Ryzen 7 5700U AMD Radeon graphics card Maximum resolution 1920×1080 pixels Will it be possible?

[viscid torrent]

The integrated graphics of a 5700U? Most definitively not no

[primal karma]

if the minimum configuration requires a 3600 why wouldn't it work with a 5700?sorry I really don't know anything about it, I wasn't interested in this kind of question before inzoi

[high spindle]

Yup, definitely a lot for that system. Amazon really isn't what it use to be in pricing

[viscid torrent]

The 5700U is a laptop cpu, the 3600 is a desktop cpu. However, you're asking about the 5700U's gpu, so you'd have to look at that compared to the RTX 2060 (Super) rather than the Ryzen 5 3600

[primal karma]

Okay So if I want to stay in the HP game on a laptop whether it's Intel Core or Ryzen Do you have a model that would be interesting without being a gaming PC? From least efficient to most efficient

[normal sonnet]

does this laptop work great with inzoi and sims 4 to playhttps://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-legion-7i-16-gaming-laptop-wqxga-intel-14th-gen-core-i7-with-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-8gb-1tb-ssd-glacier-white/6575391.p?skuId=6575391

[sick girder]

weird because not mine i need upgrade it to 16

6600K with 8 gb of ram is not good for gta

[normal sonnet]

guys do mini pcs work too for gaming on laptops or is it a good or great alternative

[last walrus]

@frosty acorn is ur electric bill higher?

@hoary hill how is the Lenovo LOQ 15 for beginners dude?

[hoary hill]

No idea, don't have one

[last walrus]

How our mini PCs?

[hoary hill]

I just knows that like all PCs any mods you want to install for a game are available on laptops

There's no differential in that regard

[frosty acorn]

A little bit but not overly but I don't pay the entire thing
I just pay rent towards it

[last walrus]

Ahh, do you have a mini PC or a bigger one? Don’t know if I need to have a mini pc?

[hoary hill]

https://www.pcgamebenchmark.com/inzoi-system-requirements?result

[frosty acorn]

I have a big one I needed a PC often powerful enough to render scenes, animations and open unoptimised games

[glossy monolith]

also mate it depends wattage is different in each country

[last walrus]

Sigh, this is hella stressful ngl. I’m debating if I should get a Lenovo Business Laptop, while also the Lenovo Gaming One. Haven’t used a PC in yrs, just laptops. After graduation, don’t even know if I need a PC if I’m just playin 4 games. It’s not like I’m playin triple A games on it.

[hoary hill]

You said you need a laptop for work, get one of those, and if you plan on playing Inzoi then get one with the specs for the game.... pretty easy

[frosty acorn]

The gaming one will be more powerful and you'll likely be able to play games you want for longer but
The power usage on gaming laptops are narrowing rapidly to the power usage to PCs so it's hard to say yes if that's your concern
PCs do allow for repairs and upgrades where with laptops you'll eventually have to buy a new one

When you do buy a new PC you can sell the rest of it for parts if it's a pre-built or self built one
So you get money back

[hoary hill]

The only thing "original" in my PC is it's case. Everything's been replaced 😉

[last walrus]

Def gettin prebuilt.

[frosty acorn]

Buisness laptop if it's powerful enough should get you by though

[last walrus]

Ye, like Lenovo X1 Carbon, but wanna use it strictly for work. Wanna separate PC for gaming

[frosty acorn]

Especially if after graduation that income is a concern
You can always save for later then invest for a PC or gaming laptop

I originally had a standard laptop until my course demanded a really powerful one to work from home (thanks Covid)

[last walrus]

Ye, Ima be on a budget, since starting out with my career. Don’t know if PC is worth gettin since they more expensive than gaming laptops. Idk if that’s true or not tho.

[hoary hill]

Depends on the specs

[last walrus]

Would u get a 2k gaming laptop or 2k PC?

[frosty acorn]

It's hard to say because you never know if you'll need to move or travel too
I'm at a point where if I do move it's to a house so PC is fine
But my friend who's moved around after university has a laptop because they tend to move from rented to rented

[hoary hill]

I feel like we've already been over PC versus laptop. But you said you need a laptop, so that's the answer 😉

[last walrus]

Ye, it depends on my lifestyle and situation. But I’m a homebody and don’t go no where often unless the store for some food or do a lil shopping here & there. Ima bring a switch or steamdeck, something smaller with me tho.

[hoary hill]

Thought you needed a laptop for work?

[last walrus]

Nah man, right now as a college dude. Didn’t start my career yet haha, but I will most likely work in a tech department of some field. Don’t like go no where right now, just at home

[viscid torrent]

In what country do you live? I can have a look at laptops that could be interesting

[hoary hill]

And you need a laptop for that? You sure?

[viscid torrent]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/gigabyte-g6x-16-165hz-gaming-laptop-ips-intel-i7-13650hx-with-32gb-ram-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-1tb-ssd-black/6576649.p?skuId=6576649 This is a better deal :)

[last walrus]

Thinking bout working in a tech field, don’t know tho. I know they gonna have computers in their office for workers, ofc.

[hoary hill]

Some even supply laptops

[last walrus]

True, Ik man. But do u think I should use the same PC for work & gaming. But ye, they gonna supply laptops most likely, so u think I should go for the PC instead of two laptops

[hoary hill]

Doesn't matter, but they probably won't want you to, why they supply laptops or PCs at place of business, so you don't.

[last walrus]

Ahh, gotchu. Ur right man, I’m just the use the laptop that I received from them for work purposes, and then PC for personal and gaming use. Sounds good?

[hoary hill]

Probably if you spend a lot of time at home anyway

[last walrus]

When ppl use gaming laptops for “portability” or game “anywhere”, what that mean? Not stuck in one place?

[hoary hill]

You can play ina starbucks, or a hotel, or a parking lot. Not like PC where it has to stay mostly ina single room

[last walrus]

Dude, I wouldn’t wanna play in a Starbucks or parking lot. I would rather use a steamdeck or switch for that lol. Don’t wanna carry that big thing. 🤣🤣🤣

[hoary hill]

Just saying you could

[last walrus]

Ye, ima just get a PC, since Ima use handheld consoles for public. Do CyberPowerPC have good prebuilt PCs. Looking for prebuilt instead of custom building how I like it.

[hoary hill]

When I got one like 15 years ago, it was alright, some minor troubles but I fixed them if you need premade. You'd be better off following a guide and building your own though

[last walrus]

Nah, this is my first time man. Ima just get a prebuilt starting off, heard CyberPower have good prebuilts. When ima expert, then ima build my personal one.

[hoary hill]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-omg-lol-laugh-gif-12956385894842429484

[last walrus]

What ur specs requirements like? 16 or 32GB ram, RTX 4070, etc.

[hoary hill]

What you mean?

[last walrus]

Nvm dude.

[frosty acorn]

Most people I know who game on the move are usually moving around for work or for family reasons
Like my friend does a job that requires them to work with a company for a few months, usually in person, then move onto the next company
They sometimes also work abroad
So gaming laptop made more sense for them

[hoary hill]

Gaming in hotels is life

[last walrus]

Hell nah, that’s the time for woohoo & Hulu.

[hoary hill]

No woohoo while working unless you fancy your coworker. You're mostly just gaming or watching tv there

[last walrus]

Oh, u have a gaming laptop tho or both?

[hoary hill]

both

[last walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/faint-omg-pass-out-fall-elmo-gif-8540902822064990640

Bruh, wth?!

[hoary hill]

I used to travel a lot for work, needed one or no gaming

[last walrus]

Mmm, get rid of it now then. Still got it bruh huh?

[hoary hill]

My laptop? Somewhere

[latent stream]

processor is fine but 4060 is a little lower than recomended

[viscid torrent]

30% slower is quite a bit more than a little :P
That said, a laptop 4060 (with proper tgp) will most likely run the game fine. A 4070 laptop will be a decent bit more expensive than a 4060 laptop though and is also still slower than a desktop 3070 :(

[last walrus]

@orchid glacier Yo man, what are some good gaming laptops? Acer Nitro 5, Lenovo Legion 5i, or the Lenovo LOQ 15. Battling with choosing one of these

[orchid glacier]

avoid the nitro 5

they suffer from bad soldering

the Lenovo LOQ 15 seems like a good option

i

this one @last walrus

?

[last walrus]

Ight, just two options now. And yup, ur right! That’s the one.

[orchid glacier]

rtx 4060

ya thats a good spec latptop

[last walrus]

Is the Lenovo LOQ 15 ight. I do know Lenovo has some good products for their laptops. Never owned a gaming Laptop.

[orchid glacier]

the LOQ is no longer avaiable in my country

so i cant see the specs on it

[last walrus]

Ahh, I’m in the US. They still got it, which laptop u got?

[orchid glacier]

this laptop is better

[last walrus]

Ahh, gotchu man. So the Lenovo Legion 5i, it is?

[orchid glacier]

yep

thats the top of the line

[viscid torrent]

Legion 7 is top of the line for Lenovo :P

[last walrus]

Gotchu, but do u think Paralives, Baldur Gates 3, Skyrim can be played on SteamDeck.

[viscid torrent]

What's your budget for a laptop?

[last walrus]

$1000 to $1200. Don’t wanna go over $1400

[orchid glacier]

skyrim ya, BG3 maybe and paralives should be ok

[viscid torrent]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/677546/hp-omen-16-ae0001nr-161-gaming-laptop-computer-platinum-collection-meteor-silver

In-store pickup only it seems though

[last walrus]

I just need a laptop to play Paralives, Baldur Gates 3, and Skyrim on. Can you mod on the steamdeck? I just need to find a good laptop for those 3 games

[viscid torrent]

You can mod games yes

[orchid glacier]

ya

since steamdeck can run windows

[last walrus]

I just need to find a good laptop for those 3 games. Since I play most triple AAA games on console.

[last walrus]

Is Baldur Gates 3 enjoyable without mods, including Skyrim. Despite wanna mod em

[viscid torrent]

If this laptop is available in a microcenter nearby then it's an insane deal

[last walrus]

Tbh Waffles, I don’t need a good, expensive laptop. I just wanna play Paralives on it, and their requirements prob not that “demanding”, maybe even Skyrim too. Prob just something simple ig.

[viscid torrent]

Well, you did list a budget so I provide within that budget :P

I'll have a look at some cheaper alternatives that will still be able to easily run those games ^^

[last walrus]

Aye Waffles, I found what I was looking for. Thanks for the help tho. Appreciate it!

[viscid torrent]

https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Gaming-Notebook-7435HS-GeForce/dp/B0DF38LJRZ/ or https://www.amazon.com/HP-Victus-Gaming-i5-13420H-GeForce/dp/B0DN5RWNNC/ are pretty interesting. The Lenovo is a bit better, but both are pretty fast and shouldn't have issues running the games you mentioned

Only downside they have is the 512GB of storage. But both of them you can add additional storage yourself pretty easily should that be needed ^^

[last walrus]

Which one you advise me to get if you were buying between the two?

[viscid torrent]

I'd say the Lenovo one will probably last you a little longer due to the faster processor it has, so I'm leaning more towards that one. But it is an extra $70, so they're both solid options. It's difficult to make a wrong decision here

Be aware with the HP laptop, if you click on the "other sellers" option thingy there is a seller with a lot of good reviews with a lower price than is listed on the main Amazon listing :)

[last walrus]

Gotchu, thanks! So, u think I should try the Lenovo LOQ out?

[viscid torrent]

If you don't mind spending a little bit more compared to the HP one, then I'd say go for it

[primal karma]

I'm in France

[viscid torrent]

Any particular reason for it to be a "regular" laptop rather than a gaming one?

Because there's not really a whole lot out there in terms of non-gaming laptops that can run the game

[primal karma]

no no particular reason if there is only this option I would take the gaming PC

[viscid torrent]

Ok ok, what would your budget be?

[primal karma]

no specific budget but not too excessive since it's only for inzoi

[viscid torrent]

Alright, I'll have a look at what I can find ^^

[viscid torrent]

https://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00628356.html

Alternatively this could be an option https://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00651224.html, but you would be around the minimum requirements so it might struggle a bit with the game

[visual knoll]

Will this pc meet the minimum requirements?

AMD Ryzen 5 8400F- NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 8GB- 16GB DDR5 RGB RAM - 1TB NVMe SSD

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-scale-gaming-desktop-pc-amd-ryzen-5-8400f-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-8gb-16gb-ddr5-rgb-ram-1tb-nvme-ssd-black/6594147.p?skuId=6594147

[viscid torrent]

I'd go with either this https://www.newegg.com/yeyian-ypa-ta750fb-4601u-yumi/p/N82E16883630034?Item=N82E16883630034 or https://www.bestbuy.com/site/thermaltake-lcgs-quartz-i460-gaming-desktop-intel-core-i5-14400f-16gb-ddr5-ram-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-1tb-nvme-m-2-white/6595231.p?skuId=6595231

Both of these have a much better CPU

[visual knoll]

The white one looks awesome i think ill go with that one

How far is it above the minimum requirements?

[viscid torrent]

CPU is above recommended. The GPU is in between minimum and recommended :)

[visual knoll]

Thats great

What cords will I need to buy to power it and connect everything to my tv/monitor I have some spare hdmi cords but I heard that using the display ports are better

[viscid torrent]

The pc should come with a power cable. A displayport or hdmi cable is all you'll need to connect to your monitor yes :)

[visual knoll]

Aw it doesn’t unfortunately

Thats okay though ill find something

[viscid torrent]

It comes with the pc, so it's part of the "1x desktop"

[visual knoll]

I should get the Intel Core i5 14th Generation over the Intel 13th Generation Core i5?

[visual knoll]

Ohh

[viscid torrent]

There's barely any difference between the two, if the 13th gen is cheaper then go with that

Best option would be AMD 7000 or 9000 series

As they're simply better

[visual knoll]

Theyre tbe same price

[viscid torrent]

In that case, 14th gen

The only downside is that you can't really upgrade the cpu should you in a whole bunch of years from now notice it struggling with new games. But I think once that time arrives it's probably more interesting going for a new pc :P

[visual knoll]

Thats okay by then I should have money for an even better pc

[visual knoll]

Okayy

Thank you so much for all the help and answering all my questions

[viscid torrent]

Always happy to help

[south pine]

Real quick anyone will this PC work

Ignore first image

[south pine]

It’s at Walmart

[rough field]

Hello! I'm in the process of buying a new pc just wondering if anyone can tell me if this will be able to run inzoi at least decently? Thank you in advanced ❤️

https://www.canadacomputers.com/en/armoury-gaming-desktops/253662/armoury-ryzen-5-7500f-rtx-4060-16gb-ddr5-1tb-ssd-wi-fi-windows-11-rtaru00135.html

or

https://www.canadacomputers.com/en/armoury-gaming-desktops/261522/armoury-ryzen-7-7700-rtx-4060-ti-32gb-ddr5-1tb-ssd-wi-fi-win-11-rtaru00258.html

(also sorry if these were already mentioned talked about I did a quick search and didn't see it 😭 )

[high spindle]

I’d say go for the 1500, the extra $300 is worth the performance boost between the double memory, Better cpu and GPU.

If it’s a time sensitive thing for you, either will be fine for Inzoi 😌👌🏾

[rough field]

Thanks so much!

[south pine]

Anyone have any recommendations for a tower on Amazon? That can run the game? I found one but am unsure how it will run.

Gaming PC Desktop Computer,Intel Core i5 13400F,RTX 4060,32GB RAM 1TB SSD,ARGB Fan,Prebuilt Gaming PC Tower for Office

Graphics
Graphics Description Dedicated
Graphics Card Ram 8
Graphics Card Interface PCI Express
Graphics Ram Type GDDR6

Processor
Processor Count 6
Processor Series Intel Core i5
Processor Speed 2.5 GHz
Processor Socket LGA 1700

[hoary hill]

https://www.pcgamebenchmark.com/inzoi-system-requirements

[viscid torrent]

Both are good yes :)

[viscid torrent]

Amazon US? This will run the game, whether it's a good buy kind of depends on the price though

[high spindle]

Now that's using your brain!! 🙌🏾

[dusky ember]

That's a rather unbalanced system IMO. Also, I don't know what GPU that is. Is that the 8GB or 16GB 4060? The performance difference is huge here.
If its greater than $1000, I'd say its not really worth it.

Nevermind, its the 8GB. It will run the game, but I think your money is better spent elsewhere.

A cheaper GPU like the B580 would probably do better if the VRAM limit gets hit.

4060 8GB vs B580, theoretical performance wise

[warm fern]

Hello, I wanted to know if my PC meets the recommended requirements and if it is possible to improve it

AMD Ryzen 9 5900x 12 32 Ram NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB

ty ^^

[glossy monolith]

yes you are good

[viscid torrent]

Finding a B580 pre-built is a bit rough though :(

[warm fern]

Ok ty ^^

[sick girder]

do 4060 4060 TI have good performance in raytracing?

[viscid torrent]

Eh

Depends on the game

But for a good raytracing experience you don't really want a 60 card

[sick girder]

I have like 50 fps with medium raytracing on cybergoth 2077

With 6750

[viscid torrent]

Wrong 60 series :^)

But yeah, reducing fps to below 60 just to have raytracing doesn't really sound great

[sick girder]

I see

[magic sluice]

can i play on gtx 1650 16gb ram and ryzen 5?

[high spindle]

https://www.pcgamebenchmark.com/inzoi-system-requirements

Click “Can I run it”…then entered system requirements.

[viscid torrent]

1650 will most likely have quite a lot of struggles

[hoary hill]

I don't think it can give requirments tbh

That and the processor is quite old

[vital pebble]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-xtreme-gaming-desktop-intel-core-i5-14400f-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3050-6gb-1tb-ssd-white/6593744.p?skuId=6593744

I this a good
Pc for Inzoi!?

[viscid torrent]

Hm... 3050 is not really it

[acoustic rose]

3050 is very slow for its price. For 50-100 bucks more you can get a way faster RTX 4060 prebuilt

[vital pebble]

Okay I’ll keep looking thank you guys!

[viscid torrent]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883151515?item=N82E16883151515

[viscid torrent]

Not even

[viscid torrent]

Here's something that's a lot more interesting @vital pebble

[acoustic rose]

was checking bestbuy. Seems like newegg has some better deals overall

[high spindle]

@spare temple

What components are you looking at or rather what build of its completely prebuilt?

[spare temple]

Completely build

[high spindle]

Current requirements…

What are your options?

[spare temple]

It doesn’t really matter just need something

[sick girder]

Hey someone know if is normal my ssd look this ? black is my motherboard and orange is my ssd

[slow oxide]

maybe you’re missing the small screw on the the end of the ssd?

[sick girder]

idk

[normal sonnet]

Would this mini pc work with sims 4 and inzoi using my lower end laptop lenovo yoga https://www.amazon.com/Beelink-Graphics-Desktop-Computers-Support/dp/B09SHSQ5CF/ref=asc_df_B09SHSQ5CF?mcid=13ef4bc4151b3d6899021ce26cd8bb5d&hvocijid=1210048879834317589-B09SHSQ5CF-&hvexpln=73&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=721245378154&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1210048879834317589&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9004380&hvtargid=pla-2281435178338&th=1

[viscid torrent]

No

[normal sonnet]

What mini pc’s would work then any great or good ones that would work maybe

[viscid torrent]

You'll want to look at a mini pc with a dedicated graphics card powerful enough to run the game such as https://www.amazon.com/MINISFORUM-795S7-7945HX-Display-HDMI2-1/dp/B0DJRD1XVL

[vital pebble]

What about this one

[vital pebble]

Okay thanks so much!❤️

@viscid torrent which one is better, the one in the screenshot I sent or the one you recommended??

[viscid torrent]

The Ryzen 5 5500 is not really interesting so I'd sooner go with the one I sent

[vital pebble]

Okay! And what settings would I be able to play on it with Inzoi??

[viscid torrent]

That is a question nobody can answer unfortunately

But if I had to give a guess, I'd say you'll probably be able to very comfortably run the game on medium settings at fullhd

[chrome zephyr]

@cerulean talon how much money do you have to spend on the PC?

[cerulean talon]

I'm not sure, to be honest. Maybe a bit over 2000€. I'm only a teenager.

[chrome zephyr]

Thats perfectly ok

And good money for that pc

In my case, i picked nvidia rtx 3080 ti with intel core i9 and

32gb ram

[subtle hamlet]

Thisll manage right

[viscid torrent]

Well, this is basically as high end as a pc can get nearly

[high spindle]

Looks pretty damn good! I’d still go a little higher on PSU for overhead; OC settings etc

1200W wouldn’t hurt

[viscid torrent]

1000W is already overkill, no reason to go 1200W

The 7900XTX pulls like 360W during gaming, the 9800X3D like 70, add another 100W for the rest of the system and you're looking at 530W under load, no reason to go 1200W for that lel

[languid lotus]

have any one order from metapcs

[high spindle]

Whatever you say, stand by my recommendation. Thanks 🙏🏾 for your 2 cents 😌👏🏾…I’m not going to spoon feed you the information when you consistently choose to just not read. Neither will I go back and forth with you till you see reason.

[viscid torrent]

?

What are you on about?

[high spindle]

Just read

Then critically think

[viscid torrent]

A 5090 and a 9800X3D can easily be done on a 1000W psu, there is no reason to spend more money to go with a 1200W psu

Like I said, I don't get your reasoning

Why do you have such an issue with me correcting your advice when it's not good?

[high spindle]

I disagree, I just know it’s counterintuitive to continue criticizing advice you don’t like. This isn’t about YOU it’s about what’s best for these players, not just in the short-term.

I can’t help you reason yourself out of issues you didn’t use reason to get into.

I’m done ☑️

[viscid torrent]

Why are you making up random narratives? I know this isn't about me, it never is and never was. It's about giving helpful advice to people

Which includes correcting poor advice

And if you get offended or overly defensive when someone calls out poor advice. I don't really know what else to tell you besides maybe trying to do more research into topics before trying to pass information on to others

[fallow fulcrum]

Hello, someone know if InZoi can run on an external SSD ? because sadly my laptop will not having enough space for the game even if I reset everything and I bought it recently

[high spindle]

I don’t see why that would be an issue honestly as long as you have more than the required 60gb storage.

[fallow fulcrum]

Thank you for the answer

[viscid torrent]

Difficult to say as long as the game isn't out. It'll most likely work but your loading times will probably be a little longer and such

What laptop do you have exactly? It might be that you can add additional internal storage? @fallow fulcrum

[fallow fulcrum]

https://www.amazon.fr/Lenovo-LOQ-15IAX9-Ordinateur-i5-12450HX/dp/B0CV4CCC82

[fallow fulcrum]

I have this one but I already have the sims 4 on it and a little bit fat mods folder 🥲

[viscid torrent]

It has a free slot to add another ssd

So you don't have to get an external one

This would be a great budget option https://www.amazon.fr/Kingston-NVMe-Interne-2280-SNV3S-1000G/dp/B0DBR3DZWG/
or if you want a bit better performance then https://www.amazon.fr/WD_BLACK-Disque-vitesse-lecture-jusquà/dp/B09QV692XY/ @fallow fulcrum

[fallow fulcrum]

Oh really ? Thank you I didn't know!

[viscid torrent]

There's some video guides on youtube on how to open up the laptop and add the ssd. Or if you don't feel comfortable doing that you can always bring it to a local computer shop or maybe there's a friend who can help :)

[fallow fulcrum]

Thank you so much! I'll looking for that

[viscid torrent]

https://youtu.be/5k3-Ewq-6NM?si=njf28nQ0gpE5_2LG

[high spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/matthew-mc-conaughey-alright-three-smile-gif-12587120

To provide you with more options, you might consider using an external NVMe enclosure if you're not comfortable with the installation process.

I've used the “ROG” enclosure, and it works very well, although it does tend to get a bit hot at times.

Enjoy your gaming! @fallow fulcrum

https://a.co/d/5KksTcE

It's plug-and-play, and the loading speed compared to an onboard NVMe installation is negligible! Again, OPTIONS

[viscid torrent]

If you have the option of adding it internally you're better off spending the money you'd spend on an external enclosure to have someone install it for you should you not feel comfortable adding it yourself

As you'll simply have better performance

Should you want a portable enclosure though, ugreen offers great value as you're not paying a "gamer tax"

That said though, just install it internally or have someone install it for you

It's the best solution

[merry cargo]

Hello! Are my computer specs good enough to run this game? if so...what settings will i be able to run it on: low, med, high?

Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 5700G with Radeon Graphics 3.80 GHz
Installed RAM: 32.0 GB
GPU processor: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060
@latent silo Here you go

[latent silo]

Thank you SOOO much

[viscid torrent]

Probably yes

Everything is above the minimum requirements

So you'll be fine

[latent silo]

Awesome. But which would i be able to run smoothly? I stream my games to twitch and tiktok...i dont wanna be glitchy all over the place.

[latent silo]

And by "which" I mean "low, med or high" settings

[viscid torrent]

As long as the game isn't out that's difficult to say

Because we don't know the actual performance yet

[latent silo]

Mmmmm

I see, thx, At least I know that im above average.

(or minimum requirements rather)

[viscid torrent]

My guess is that you'll have a smooth medium experience, as you're in between the minimum and recommended requirements

[latent silo]

sweet. thx.

[viscid torrent]

But we don't know what performance the minimum requirements have, It could be like 1080p low at 60 fps, but it could also be 720p

So it's a bit difficult to say what performance you'll have with what hardware :P

A little longer and we'll all find out ^^

But you'll be perfectly fine

[latent silo]

Well, if it comes to this, I'll have to record my gameplay instead of stream it. That way, I'll maintain the quality.

[latent silo]

I dont think I've been THIS invested in a game in my life. It literally has me checking in on it every dang day lol

[viscid torrent]

As long as you use GPU encoding you'll probably be ok with streaming

[latent silo]

Im Like "HOW MUCH IS IT GONNA COST!!!! GAHHHH"

[latent silo]

I believe my OBS is set to GPU encoding

[sick girder]

Someone know if corsair AIO is good for 5700X3D? i want change my cooling because not beautiful

a big cube

working good but not beautiful 😦

[viscid torrent]

Thermalright has some really good AIO's that perform better for a lot less money :)

[soft geyser]

Hello, could you recommend me a good video card to run Inzoi, but not too expensive, I don't have much money right now, but I'll try to buy one that's within my budget

[burnt sequoia]

Geforce rtx 4070 is a beast and you won't have trouble running games with it on high settings

It also won't break the bank

[void lark]

Someone help me, my video card is at 300mhz and I don't know how to solve it

[viscid torrent]

Have you tried uninstalling the drivers using DDU and then reinstalling them?

Does the low mhz reading also translate to bad fps in games? Like, it's not just a software reading bug?

[light sun]

is it at 300 mhz while you're in games

it might just be throttled down due to dynamic power management or something

[lusty oracle]

if you can wait 5070 is launching later this month

on the 20th

it's less expensive than the 4070 super

[void lark]

Of course yes, the game just lags

[raven ember]

Ok thank you so if my laptop needs to update inzoi will still work right

[bleak talon]

Its official I have 2T for inzoi hahaha 🤩

[soft geyser]

My 500gb ssd broke, and I have to buy another one, I want a 1tb one, I would like a recommendation for a good one, because I want to improve the entire PC to play Inzoi

[bleak talon]

Kingston fury Renegade IS what I have and works pretty nice

[high spindle]

Do you have M.2 slots on your motherboard, or are you not interested in using NVMe storage? It's the fastest option right now.

[high spindle]

I recommend Samsung NVMe drives. For me, price is usually not a major consideration; quality is my top priority. I find Samsung to be a reliable and optimal brand when it comes to this technology. Additionally, I take precautions for the future and prefer to buy items that will last a long time—essentially, I believe in buying once for the long haul.

https://a.co/d/daSrZYp

[high spindle]

I don't see any issues with this recommendation! My journey in the game also began with Kingston and SanDisk, and I found them to be great choices as well. 😌👌🏾

[high spindle]

Is it in a laptop 💻? Additionally, throttling clock speeds isn’t necessarily bad unless you experience jitteriness or low FPS. I assume that’s your main issue?

[viscid torrent]

There's no mobile 1660S

[high spindle]

You're saying there's no laptop with a 1660 or what?

[viscid torrent]

1660S

[high spindle]

Oh, I see 1660 and started asking the questions I need answered. Thanks for the information. Did they inform you if they're experiencing performance drops along with the low clock speeds?

[viscid torrent]

Laptops only have a 1660 Ti iirc

They said everything they said here

Also, just curious, why are so many of your messages bold and/or italic?

[high spindle]

I saw that about the 1660 Ti after you said it’s only mobile.
I write like this because I simply like the way it looks 🤷🏾‍♂️😅

[dull seal]

Can anyone tell me if this would be a good buy or not? 😊

https://www.very.ie/hp-omen-17-db0017na-gaming-laptop-with-hyper-x-cloud-iii-wired-headset--rtx-4060-amd-ryzen-7-16gb-ram-512gb-ssd-173in-full-hd/1601052951.prd *

[viscid torrent]

https://www.lenovo.com/ie/en/p/laptops/loq-laptops/lenovo-loq-15arp9/83jc00fwuk

[hoary yarrow]

will I be able to play in a 2023 Macbook Pro with an Apple M3 Chip?

[viscid torrent]

You might be able to run the game through Rosetta

But officially the game is only available on Windows

So short answer, no

Long answer, maybe through emulation but your performance might be really bad

[hoary yarrow]

okay, i will be building a pc then but don´t know much about it. can anyone help?

[viscid torrent]

I can help yes ^^

Just a pc or also a screen and such?
What's your budget and where are you located, so I know what sites to check for stuff :P

[long spear]

I posted this in the regular inzoi chat but will copy it here for anyone looking for these tips:
Things you need to watch out for when buying a PC:

• processor advice by @viscid torrent : I would only recommend 12th gen i7/19 (not 13th or 14th gen), 13th/14th gen i5, or the new Core Ultra series when it comes to Intel. As for AMD, anything in the 7000 and 9000 series for AM5 is perfect. Alternatively if you're on a budget then the 5000 series for AM4 is still interesting

• Make sure the graphics card has at least 8GB of VRAM. If you can afford more, get more. This will be your bottleneck soon if you stick to 8GB. I have an 8GB one and have noticed some games take nearly all of it nowadays. Especially if you're like me and want to run games at the highest graphics settings possible.

• Make sure you have at least and preferably more than 16GB of regular RAM, especially if you work with 2 screens and multitask between your game and other programs.

• Make sure the laptop/PC has plenty of SSD storage. The game will require you to store it on an SSD. Try going for at least 1 TB of SSD storage.

Remember: buying on the edge of the recommended settings now might mean you will need to upgrade again 2 or 3 years from now. If you can afford it, spend a few extra bucks on a futureproof PC or laptop with better specs than what you currently need, that way you save money in the long run! especially when you buy a laptop, because upgrading separate parts in a laptop is often not possible. Tower PC's are a bit more flexible than that.

[viscid torrent]

Frequencies and naming doesn't really mean much for cpu's

An i7 with 2.1ghz base frequency could be an i7 from 2012 that will struggle with basic office tasks

So it's a bit more nuanced than that

Also with i7's and i9's. Only 12th gen is interesting due to the design flaws that 13th and 14th gen has

So I would only recommend 12th gen i7/19, 13th/14th gen i5, or the new Core Ultra series when it comes to Intel

As for AMD, anything in the 7000 and 9000 series for AM5 is perfect. Alternatively if you're on a budget then the 5000 series for AM4 is still interesting

[long spear]

Thank you for the additions! Adjusted my message.

[viscid torrent]

Just as a sidenote, this is just for desktops

[long spear]

Hmm, could you add with your advice for laptops? I've seen a lot of people looking at laptops

I'm not super familiar with processors

[viscid torrent]

As for laptop cpu's, only 13th and 14th gen i7's and i9's as well as Core Ultra are interesting when it comes to Intel. For AMD any recent Ryzen 7 or Ryzen 9 will do as well

[long spear]

Only thing I usually go by is 'make sure the processor is your strongest asset because it's the most annoying one to upgrade' lol

[viscid torrent]

But yeah, it's a bit convoluted. Because for laptops you want 13th and 14th gen i7's and i9's. But for desktops they are to be avoided like the plague

[long spear]

I usually check websites that rank processors and make sure the one I buy is above what is recommended for the game I use as a benchmark. (Like tweakers, which is a dutch website so not useful for everyone)

[viscid torrent]

All that said, in general for gaming AMD takes priority over Intel :)

Yeah, Tweakers is amazing as long as you know Dutch

I am a regular on the forum there lol

[long spear]

I have the i9 10850k myself, which came with my prebuilt PC, but I am very happy with it so far, works like a charm.

[viscid torrent]

I have a Ryzen 7 5700X3D :)

[frozen vessel]

Is this one a better option?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DSWM3466/ref=cm_sw_r_as_gl_api_gl_i_QYDF11GW8S1WEZVDRYGH?linkCode=ml2&tag=abby-galebarn-20

[viscid torrent]

https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-LOQ-Gaming-Laptop-2024/dp/B0B7M93MQH :)

[long spear]

Unfortunately no, since the GPU doesn't meet the minimum recommendations

[long spear]

This one checks all the boxes

[frozen vessel]

Oh really ? Alrighty. Inzoi be literally taking me back to Tech class but totally worth it ! 😂🥰

[viscid torrent]

Gpu will probably run it, the 4050 is still decently fast. You'll just be limited in graphics settings due to the lacking vram

[frozen vessel]

Thank you!!!!! 🎉🥰

[viscid torrent]

But if you can get a 4060 for the same price it's an easy choice :P

[long spear]

Yeah I mean a game like DA Veilguard which has less heavy specs as Inzoi already slurps up nearly all of my VRAM and tanks FPS if I go near the max VRAM with my settings. 6GB of VRAM might force you to medium settings or so, which honestly would be a shame if you buy a new pc especially for the game.

[frozen vessel]

So this one is perfect for the game? Just reconfirming after reading your messages 😭

Sorry I just woke up 🙈

[frozen vessel]

Wow

[long spear]

The one Waffles listed for you seems to be pretty good, should give you solid performance for Inzoi at least if the recommended settings are accurate.

[frozen vessel]

Okay. Appreciated ! I’ll get that one. Thanks!

[long spear]

32gb of RAM will let you play good games on that laptop for quite a few years to come as well, so it's good you upselled on that.

[viscid torrent]

it's not perfect but it's a great option for the price

And should be able to run the game just fine

[frozen vessel]

I would prefer perfect though

[long spear]

Then I'd recommend going for a desktop instead of a laptop if you have the space for it

laptops will always be more limited than a desktop

But that also means you have to buy screens if you don't have those

so that'd make it more expensive for sure

[frozen vessel]

Oh where do I even start with a desktop search 😭

[frozen vessel]

I know that for sure

[long spear]

The problem with desktops is, graphics cards are currently still quite expensive. You'll quickly go over 1000 dollars if you want a good futureproof gaming desktop

[frozen vessel]

But worth it

[frozen vessel]

Ikr! Came across a few

Thanks much for the help guys. Really appreciate it 🙏🏽

[viscid torrent]

If you want perfect you'll either have to increase your budget if you want a laptop or look at a desktop

(Or both if you don't want to build a pc yourself :P)

[frozen vessel]

For now I’ll have to stick with a laptop, don’t have the space for a desktop cuz my job already be taking up space with theirs 😂 2 monitors and all

I’d prefer a laptop with higher specs than the game for sure though

I don’t mind spending a couple extra bucks

[viscid torrent]

I'll have a looksie ^^

https://www.microcenter.com/product/677546/hp-omen-16-ae0001nr-161-gaming-laptop-computer-platinum-collection-meteor-silver

Or https://www.microcenter.com/product/682862/msi-sword-16-hx-b13vgkg-649us-16-gaming-laptop-computer-cosmo-gray

[frozen vessel]

I’ll see if I can find them on Amazon.

[viscid torrent]

Ah, i'll look at what I can find on Amazon

[frozen vessel]

https://amzn.to/3WTscb0

I think that’s the first one you sent

[frozen vessel]

This

[viscid torrent]

This is a different one

[frozen vessel]

Oh okay

I can only purchase on Amazon for now so let’s try to find one on there okay 🥹😭

[viscid torrent]

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Victus-Gaming-Laptop-7-8845HS/dp/B0DB8261KH?th=1

[frozen vessel]

Alrighty so this one is over the recommended specs

I believe

[long spear]

If you want more than this, you'll be looking at laptops that are over 2000 dollars.

[viscid torrent]

This is still below the recommended specs technically

If you want above the recommended specs you're looking at like 2000 dollars yeah

[viscid torrent]

This is just slightly below though

[frozen vessel]

Tbh I’m just trying to get a laptop to run Inzoi at recommended or overall just smoothly with no issues

[viscid torrent]

You're looking at like 10% slower than recommended

[frozen vessel]

Omg 😂😂

[long spear]

It's mostly the processor that will be your bottleneck with these laptops I think, but Waffle seems to be more versed in processors. But Inzoi will be a processor-heavy game because of all the simulations it has to run, so buying something that'll run Inzoi smoothly, will be expensive regardless.

[viscid torrent]

No, with these laptops it's mostly the gpu

[long spear]

Is the 4070 worse than the 3070 then? Since that one is the recommended one

[frozen vessel]

I’m ready to order whichever system will run it smoothly

[long spear]

If you go 4080 on a laptop you'll be spending around 3000 dollars.

Like this one https://a.co/d/hvN3mqS

[frozen vessel]

So it’s better to just get a desktop instead? Are the prices the same like that?

[frozen vessel]

This is a very nice unit though ngl

I’m about to curl up under my blanket 😭 I’m stressed 😂😭

[viscid torrent]

There's much cheaper 4080 laptops out there :P

[merry cargo]

Desktops, you need to consider peripherals too, questions like do you want to play games on 1080p, 2k etc.

Laptop vs Desktops have their own comparisons you will have to consider

[viscid torrent]

A laptop 4070 is slower than a desktop 3070 yes

[long spear]

Ahh good to know thanks

[viscid torrent]

The cpu's are actually pretty fast. Like the Ryzen 7 in this laptop is faster than the Ryzen 7 5800X that's recommended for the game :)

[frozen vessel]

Yea I’m officially stressed 😩

[long spear]

Sorry I'm terrible at searching I can't seem to find a cheaper with 4080 lol

[frozen vessel]

[merry cargo]

If you just want to play inZOI and not looking at other more demanding games, I would say laptop will be the "easiest"

[long spear]

Waffle should help you they're better at this lol

[viscid torrent]

Well, a 4080 laptop will still set you back at least around $2000 :(

[merry cargo]

Waffle = Pro

[frozen vessel]

Just for Inzoi for now

[viscid torrent]

I'm just a big nerd

[frozen vessel]

Lmao 😂

[midnight coyote]

We love waffle for that

[viscid torrent]

A 4070 laptop will run the game perfectly fine. You won't have the recommended requirements but you will be really close to it

[long spear]

This one's nice too, at 2500 dollars though lol https://a.co/d/8NEn0uv

[viscid torrent]

A 4080 laptop will be above the recommended requirements, but you're paying like 2 times the price

From a value proposition, it's a horrible deal

[long spear]

If you're just gonna play Inzoi and nothing else, I feel like it's a lot of money

For a high end gaming laptop

It's like my boyfriend who bought a 3000 euro gaming PC but he only plays Minecraft lmao

[frozen vessel]

Yea I just wanna run Inzoi

[long spear]

In his defense he does use a lot of mods though but I still find it funny

[frozen vessel]

It is 🤣🤣

[merry cargo]

Not 100% sure about currency rates, if you start getting at $2.5k, can start justifying a desktop PC imo

[viscid torrent]

If you just want to run Inzoi and have a smooth experience, I think a 4070 laptop will be perfectly fine for that. A 4060 laptop will most likely also work but it will be another step down

[frozen vessel]

Okay so I got a few options but can you just give me the link on amazon to the one that will run it smoothly but not too pricey

[viscid torrent]

The annoying thing is that it's really difficult to make recommendations when the game isn't released yet, as we don't know how the game runs

[long spear]

I would recommend to listen to Waffle in this case, they are Tweakers forumer, they know their shit

[frozen vessel]

For sure ain’t spending over 2k 😂

Not now at least

[frozen vessel]

You know what ! I actually thought about this

[long spear]

Problem with Inzoi is also that it'll be early access. It's like Sims 3 and all of its expansions. If you only install Sims 3 base game, your game is a lot smoother than if you install all expansions. We don't know how much bigger the game will grow, and how well prepared the devs are for it and how well they predicted the recommended specs.

[viscid torrent]

It could be that the recommended requirements are like a super safe bet so to say, like that it's kind of overkill to have headroom if that makes any sense.
So it could be that something slightly below the recommended will run the game super smooth with zero issues.
But it could also be that the recommended requirements will struggle a little bit

So it's so difficult to give advice

[frozen vessel]

I see what you’re saying completely 😩

[long spear]

I've seen Rudi play the game and he has my processor (i9 10850k) and a 2080 graphics card I believe? And he ran the game smoothly during the playtest. He said he ran into some minor hickups here and there when things got crowded.

[viscid torrent]

But I do think based on the requirements and based on how the character creator demo ran that both a 4060 and 4070 laptop will be able to run the game perfectly fine should you turn the graphics settings down

[long spear]

He had it on highest settings

Or at least high

[viscid torrent]

I see I see

[long spear]

And that's someone who's not just playing but also recording their gameplay so they run 2 programs

[viscid torrent]

In that case, If you get a 4070 laptop or 4060 laptop, you'll have a super good experience on like medium settings most likely

[frozen vessel]

I see

[viscid torrent]

Maybe even high

[long spear]

I'd say this one is your best value for money option.

[viscid torrent]

Since a 2080 kind of lines up with a laptop 4070 / 4060

[long spear]

@frozen vessel you could watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCHLCW3F6hU and see if you feel this is smooth and high settings enough for you

[frozen vessel]

Okay one sec

[viscid torrent]

I think one thing to keep in mind as well is that over time the game will probably get more optimized

[long spear]

Do keep in mind that this is before smart zois

Smart zois will take up some GPU juice for sure

[viscid torrent]

I believe from what I've been told here the Smart Zoi can also be ran in the cloud if your GPU can't handle it

Which probably means it's a ""weaker"" version of the feature but still a nice option if you want to use it

[long spear]

He talks about performance at 1:19 min

[long spear]

Ohh that's really nice

[viscid torrent]

Ah, he uses a 2080 Ti, so yeah, a laptop 4070 / 4060 will be just below that. So if he's running the game on high settings then on medium you'll probably have the same performance ^^

[frozen vessel]

Yea that works for me. Funnily I’ve watched a few of his videos before 😂

[long spear]

I think you'll be good. With the caveat that we don't know how well optimized this game will be in the end. Could become a disaster, but then it won't matter what PC you buy anyway lol

Like my pc can barely run sims 3 smoothly lol because it's so badly optimized in that way

[frozen vessel]

The laptop I currently sucks because it has only intel uhd graphics and 16gb ram so I know it won’t work

Tried even marvel rivals on it and got the direct x error

[viscid torrent]

Marvel Rivals is actually surprisingly demanding

[frozen vessel]

Listeeennnn it issss! 😂😂💀

[viscid torrent]

Probably because it's a good looking UE5 game

[frozen vessel]

True

[viscid torrent]

We're in that period where like all the new games are developed with the PS5 in mind and no longer with the PS4 in mind, so suddenly all the games are a lot more demanding

[frozen vessel]

I’m gonna get this one though. Hopefully no hiccups

https://amzn.to/3Ep8jlO

[frozen vessel]

Yea I thought about that too. Got a lil scare

Overtime I do think I’m gonna have to get a desktop though to stay up to date with the latest games

[viscid torrent]

Games no longer have to run on a like 13 year old console so everything can be a lot prettier and more demanding

[frozen vessel]

😂😂

[harsh mountain]

@loud sorrel looks like your graphics card is below the minimum shown here > #faq

[loud sorrel]

higuys, i have a question about my specs: is my current specs enough to play the game?

[loud sorrel]

thank you! so if it is below minimum, am i not able to run it at all? or will it be laggy if ran

[harsh mountain]

it doesnt look like it wont run, but the settings would have to be pretty low

and no raytracing

[loud sorrel]

when i did the inzoi character build, it ran fine

[harsh mountain]

everything else about it is good

[loud sorrel]

ah okay that makes sense. any idea the price range on upgrading to the recommended specs?

[harsh mountain]

to get to a 3070, i feel like some ppl wouldnt even bother and just go up to a 4070

but i will say the 50 series is coming out, which makes previous cards cheaper

you can get a 4070 gor like 500-600 i think (usd)

but im sure there are also options for used ones than can go down to 300

[loud sorrel]

okay i will look into this. thank you so much

[harsh mountain]

i will say, do ur research thoroughly

cuz even tho it seems logical that "higher number = better", it is very much not the case with gpus

[acoustic rose]

500-600USD is what a 4070S (should) cost. Anythink above 300USD for a 3070 would be a scam.

[viscid torrent]

3070 is old and you can only get it used. I wouldn't pay more than $250 for it used honestly

Plus the RX 6700 XT is a lot more interesting if you're buying used anyways :P

[harsh mountain]

oh whoops i meant to put 4070 there

[viscid torrent]

4070 has been superseded by the 4070 Super :)

That said, they're way too expensive now. The 5070 is coming out soon and the stock of 4070 Super cards has been thinning out and prices have been increasing

[harsh mountain]

i do feel like that has other factors on top of the 50 release

[viscid torrent]

Does it?

[harsh mountain]

mhm

[viscid torrent]

40 series cards are no longer being produced

So stores are no longer getting new stock

[harsh mountain]

yes im not denying that

[viscid torrent]

I think only the 4060 and 4060 Ti are still being produced

So as a result of no new stock coming in the remaining cards skyrocket in price

It happenes every time

Same with the transition period of 30 series to 40 series

And 20 to 30

If you need a gpu now then your best bet is either AMD, or waiting for a couple of months

Or pre built as those already have the gpu in them and aren't affected by these ""issues""

Maybe one day gpu's will get cheaper when a new generation releases, but so far I've never seen that happen 😔
Only really with cpu's

[meager citrus]

I have a hp victus and it works amazingly been using hp for years and never had any problems. I trust them more than any other gaming laptops. But that's just me 🙂

[slow oxide]

I mean, I’ve seen most people online ran to the 7900XTX instead of the 5080, so that’s one option

[slow oxide]

the arc B580 with a die as large as a 4070 but with the performance of a 4060🗿

[viscid torrent]

Better performance than a 4060 and more future proof :P

Does require a somewhat decent cpu though

[pallid cliff]

Hello everyone, I'm about to purchase the Dell G15 Gaming Laptop to play inZoi upon release, and the customized specs I selected are as follows- I wanted to make sure I am not going to overclock my GPU and not be able to play this game. (upgraded memory and i9 Intel Processor) - I cannot use a PC personally, hence referring to a gaming laptop.:- Thank you for your help 💜

Base-
DELL G15 5530
Processor-
13th Gen Intel® Core™ i9-13900HX (36 MB cache, 24 cores, 32 threads, up to 5.4 GHz Turbo)
Memory-
32GB DDR5, 2x16GB, 4800MT/s
Storage-
1 TB, M.2, PCIe NVMe, SSD
Driver-
Intel AX201 Driver
Display-
15.6", FHD 1920x1080, 165Hz, 100% sRGB, 3ms, ComfortView Plus, DDS, NVIDIA G-
Graphics-
NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 4060, 8 GB GDDR6
Processor Branding-
Intel® Core™ i9 Processor Label

[viscid torrent]

Dell laptop's kinda suck

You're better off getting a similar spec laptop from a different manufacturer

[frozen vessel]

Funnily I heard same

[viscid torrent]

Dell XPS laptops are pretty neat

Alienware laptops are also good but you're paying a lot of money for the brand and the aesthetic

Outside of that, Dell is just not it

[pallid cliff]

Thank you for your answers, basically with the same specs the game should still work and not overclock though, right?

[viscid torrent]

Certainly

The game should run perfectly fine with those specs

[pallid cliff]

I was weary of the i9 upgrade / 32 GB upgrade (I plan on redownloading Hogwarts Legacy and my Sims 4 with 50 GB of mods lol)

[latent tapir]

Hey,
Does anyone know the differences between versions of graphics cards?
I would like to buy a 4070 Super, but it exists in Aorus, Gaming, Eagle, Windforce and "DUAL EVO” and the price is different but I do not see the difference between them all

And if anyone knows anything about PC configurations, do you think a Ryzen 7 7700X with an RTX 4070 Super coupled with 32GB of Ram is a good choice for an upgrade in 2025? Or should i try something else? If I take this configuration, I'll have to change my motherboard and RAM in any case, so I'd like to take the most optimized components.
And I know there's the 50 coming out soon, but I'm afraid of the price ...

I currently have a RTX 3060 Ti with a Ryzen 5 3600 (which start to be old but I don't have much issue with it)

(It won't just be for Inzoi, I play everything 🙂 )

Thanks!

[viscid torrent]

4070 Supers are pretty expensive currently in most places due to the RTX 5070 and RX 9070 XT being around the corner so it might be that you're better off either waiting or getting a different gpu

The difference between all the versions is simply the different models that different brands have

This means they'll look different and have different cooling performance

In terms of actual performance they'll all virtually be equal

[latent tapir]

I found some for 750€ which is pricey for me, but I'm not sure of the price for the new 50 so I don't know if it's worth waiting or not

[viscid torrent]

750 euros for a 4070 Super is about 200 euros more than it should be

Where do you live?

[latent tapir]

Ooh ok! Do you recommend one version in particular for the cooling ? Or are the differences minimal?

[latent tapir]

I live in France

[latent tapir]

Yes, prices rose on the announcement of the news..

[viscid torrent]

Paying 750 for a 4070 Super is just throwing away money

Since you still have a 3060 Ti I'd say wait for the new gpu's

If you can't wait then for the same price as a 4070 Super you can get the faster RX 7900 XT

[latent tapir]

Thank you for your help!

I'll take a look then, I'm not familiar with Radeon ^^

[viscid torrent]

I'd recommend waiting though

[latent tapir]

Do you have any idea of the price of the 50? I've searched but can't find any information except for the Founder Edition, which is +1000€

[viscid torrent]

msrp is about 640 euros including tax for Europe

Don't expect to buy one though, Nvidia cards don't really exist so far

Nor is it known if the card will actually be good

9070 XT price isn't known yet

Alternatively, if you really can't wait, you can also look at the RX 7800 XT, it's a little bit slower than the 4070 Super, but the price is a lot more reasonable :P

[latent tapir]

Ok, thanks! Upgrading a graphics card is so tricky between the various versions released later (Super / Ti), which are often better than the first versions of the generation after xnx

[viscid torrent]

Yeah, unfortunately both Nvidia and AMD are pretty anti consumer and purposfully try to make things as convoluted as possible

[latent tapir]

I'll have a look at this one too! I think I can wait a bit, I'm just afraid the price of the 4070 will go up again after the new ones come out lol

[latent tapir]

Yep..

[viscid torrent]

It will probably go up further until they aren't sold anymore yes

They stopped producing them months ago already

The ones being sold now are the last ones

[latent tapir]

Really ?

I didn't know

[viscid torrent]

They have new cards, so they don't produce the old ones anymore

The issue with that is that they barely have any new cards to begin with, so it's going to be pretty difficult buying a new gpu for the coming months if you want a high end nvidia one :(

[latent tapir]

I may buy a super 4070 in a few days so I can send it back to Amazon if the new 50 is more affordable and better performing (and in stock)

And what do you think about the Ryzen 7 7700X to go with 4070 super or the new 50? Is it decent?

[viscid torrent]

It's not going to be in stock

And you're better off buying a 7900 XT then

Whether the 7700X is good depends on the price

And the price of the regular 7700

[latent tapir]

Is the 7900 XT better than the RX 7800 XT?

[viscid torrent]

Yes

The 4070 Super is right in between the 7800 XT and 7900 XT performance wise

[latent tapir]

Oh ok!
Currently I can have the 7770X for 332 euro and 7770 for 330 euro, don't know if it worth the price, but there is barely a difference between them

[viscid torrent]

From what I can find the 7700X is 305 euros and the 7700 is 250 euros

[latent tapir]

305?! Do you have a link? xD

[viscid torrent]

Which makes the 7700 the easy choice as they're almost identical

https://www.idealo.fr/prix/202275796/amd-ryzen-7-7700.html

I wouldn't get the 7700X

Unless they're almost the same price, but like 50 euros difference makes the 7700 the winner

[latent tapir]

Noted

Thank you very much for you help!!

[viscid torrent]

The 7700X is like 0.5% faster in games so it's just not worth it :P

[latent tapir]

Than the 7700?

[viscid torrent]

Yes

[latent tapir]

And what do you think of the Ryzen 5 9600X? I heard that it was better than the 7700X but for "single core" task, and 7700X was better for "multiple core" task (so for games apparently)

Because it's cheaper than the 7700X / 7700

[viscid torrent]

It's a little bit faster for games, but marginally

I'd take the 7700 over the 9600X unless the latter was a decent bit cheaper

But it seems like the 9600X is more expensive than the 7700 so... yeah

[latent tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/kowalski-noted-penguins-penguins-of-madagascar-gif-1306663699157096677

Ok!

[viscid torrent]

You mentioned having a ryzen 5 3600 righth?

What could also be a really interesting option is upgrading that to a ryzen 7 5700x3d

[latent tapir]

Yes

[viscid torrent]

As it means you can keep your motherboard and memory

[latent tapir]

I don't know this one, is it the same as 7700/X ?

[latent tapir]

oh, that is interesting lol

MB and DRR5 are so pricey imo

100euro for the 35Go ones

[viscid torrent]

It's a tiny bit slower than the 7700 in games

Like, tiny

[latent tapir]

Tiny sounds good

I'm looking!

[viscid torrent]

Like 3% slower

https://www.idealo.fr/prix/203712845/amd-ryzen-7-5700x3d.html

[latent tapir]

SO (sorry to ask you again :< )
I checked on the website Idealo (which list the vendors) but the vendors for the cheap 7700 isn't safe per the users reviews

So :
• The 7700 is at 330€ OR at 241 on Reichelt and 7700X at 332€

• The 9600X is at 282€ and the 9700X is at 371€ (I don't know this one, it came back, but maybe it's better than the 7700X as it's cost more?)

• The 5700X3D is at 249€ OR 189€ (I may found a safe vendor) (which would allow me to keep my MB and RAM, but it remains to be seen how many years before this CPU is limited, forcing me to change everything in any case)

[viscid torrent]

It's because it's similar to Amazon where anyone can sell on the platform. So people buy from a bad seller and then write a bad review for the site

The seller on fnac has a 4.2/5 with 478 sales, so you're probably fine

[latent tapir]

for the 7700 ?

[viscid torrent]

5700X3D

[latent tapir]

ah no, for the 5700X3D, yes I know that this one is fine

[viscid torrent]

Ah, I misread, sorry :P

Let me check the 7700

[latent tapir]

I was talking for the 7700 card where I can't find a safe vendor

[latent tapir]

Not at all! Thanks for your time lol

[viscid torrent]

7700 is sold on Riechelt, they're a legit store

https://www.reichelt.com/fr/fr/shop/produit/amd_am5_ryzen_7_7700_8_x_3_80_ghz_plateau-349727

[latent tapir]

The reviews are mixed but a mostly bad.. do you trust it?

[long spear]

Remember that reviews have a 'yelp effect' (people tend to review more often when they're not satisfied)

[latent tapir]

the 7700 is at 241euro so it can be interesting indeed

[latent tapir]

Yeah it's true

If I buy from Reichelt, the 7700 is at 241, but the 9600X is still at 282, is the 40 euro difference worth it or not?

I don't know if it will make a big difference in the choice, but I'm playing games like Hogwarts Legacy (I have big drop of FPS on this one in some area), a modded (1000, it's a pack) Skyrim with 20 FPS if i'm very lucky, and game like Planet Zoo, Starfield, The Witcher etc ..

[viscid torrent]

Yeah, people are more inclined to leave a review after a bad experience, not a good experience

The 9600X is only worth it if it's cheaper than the 7700

If it helps, I ordered at Reichelt before and didn't have any issues

All that said, I'd say upgrading to the 5700X3D is your best choice

Almost the same result as upgrading to AM5 but a lot cheaper

[latent tapir]

Thank you!!

[quaint jacinth]

Hi I have pc with ryzen 5600x with nvidia 4060 8gb and 32 gb ram will this be enough for a smooth inzoi gaming experience?

[viscid torrent]

Probably yes

[sick girder]

someone can say if MSI B550 a-pro work with DDR5? and if not can you give me best DDR4?

maybe TOP 5 😄

[acoustic rose]

No, it's an AM4 motherboard and is only compatibale with DDR4

[acoustic rose]

That mostly depends on what CPU you currently have and/or which CPU you want to buy

[sick girder]

aw

[sick girder]

5700X3D

I have corsair 32GB (4x8GB) 3600MHz C18

[acoustic rose]

MSI MPG B550 Gaming Plus or the motherboard you already mentioned is fine

[viscid torrent]

I'm just going to assume you're in the US in which case I'd say just get like https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PDsnTW/msi-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi

It has basically everything you'd really need

It's not really interesting spending too much money on a dead platform imo

:P

[sick girder]

https://amzn.eu/d/2KaIslR That mine

[acoustic rose]

If you already have it then everything is fine. It's a decent motherboard.

[sick girder]

Yu but need new ram they have max 3600 motherboard is 4400 MHz '-'?