▫️Cyberpunk 2077 Ultra+ 2.13 Patch Patch Patch Patch

[gritty geode]

wtf

[gentle haven]

strange

reloading mods worked for me

Btw don't remember who said it but the reason I use mods instead of setting textures to high is cause the high setting tends to go over 12gigs while driving

Causing permanent vram stutters for me

[gritty geode]

yes I just noticed the same

and over 16GB lol

[gentle haven]

Jeez

Haven't noticed that

Not related to anything here but

eeeehhhhh

[gritty geode]

that looks awful 😂

[gentle haven]

anyway, anyone got a clue what is causing these weird shadows on my V

[gentle haven]

It was

[gritty geode]

ummm... bad clothes mod?

[gentle haven]

These are all vanilla clothes

except the boots

[gritty geode]

maybe PTNext isn't loaded properly?

[gentle haven]

I don't think so, cause it's only on V

I'm gonna try removing all mods again

[gentle haven]

also

Did yall know turning on player reflections has an effect on shadows

Both on V and the shadows V casts on the floor

Not related to the issue I was having

also

It seems the shadow burn in is back

well, it was

[gentle haven]

that burn in fixes itself once you enter the save screen

ah, cause then ptnext reloads

[gentle haven]

sammi, Is this right?

[gritty geode]

• Unfucked global variable declarations
• A few more fps for PT16 via magic
• Fixed a definition for PTNext High causing marginally lower visual quality
• Enabled screenspace reflection blending for PTNext by default — this should be ON
• Disabled Distant global illumination for all PT modes... Neither ON nor OFF yields a completely 'correct' scene for this setting, however after a lot of testing, ON is often a lot more obviously wrong (for example, reflections in some windows are extremely bright), and OFF is less immersion-breaking

[gritty geode]

oh - no?

[gritty geode]

hmm, okay... idk if that's fixable, PTNext isn't even supposed to work, CDPR abandoned it

[cyan scarab]

Happy to report no issues with the new release.

https://tenor.com/view/good-fine-great-ok-extra-gif-15010542366392231786

[gritty geode]

yay ty 😂

some people are still having issues 😂😭

[gentle haven]

Ye, I get that. Still it's strange the way it happens

[gentle haven]

Yay

[gentle haven]

I'll send a few comparison screenshots in a bit. (I just woke up)

[gentle haven]

https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/16196 new sosuine mod

[gentle haven]

I think SD broke again

It seems to load PTnext and then cyberpunk settings which breaks it again somehow

I might also just be a moron again

The issue appears when you open the menu

Yep it's definetly something new with 5.2.8

[gritty geode]

this is already built in to U+

it turns the fix on when it's not raining and turns it off when it is (because it breaks rain)

[gentle haven]

Aha

Nice

[sleek quiver]

Question: Should I turn off ambient occlusion when using path tracing? Im thinking surely that option doesnt do anything when everything is path traced anyways, no?

[gritty geode]

yes it doesn't do anything for PT

it mayyyy do stuff in reflections though

which are partly raster

[sleek quiver]

Seems like a negligible visual impact then. I think I will keep it off for now

[sleek quiver]

Btw v5.2.8 is finally working for me, more or less. Dont know what changed but I am so happy :)))))

The only thing im struggling with is sometimes indoor lights seem to not work. This might already be a known bug though

With these settings

[cyan scarab]

^^Enable RIS at the bottom of the menu

[sleek quiver]

It says to disable if using reLIGHT though, which I am. Might be something wrong with my install of reLIGHT then maybe?

Enabling it doesnt seem to change the behavior anyhow

If I exit to main menu, flick ultra+ settings back and forth and load the save its "fixed".

But if I pause or enter photo mode after that the lights are off again.

[gentle haven]

@gritty geode this is the exact issue I meant

I think it's SD since the light still semi exists on npcs and that's what I've seen happen when SD breaks

[sleek quiver]

I tried to remove all files related to reLIGHT, and then have RIS enabled. Didnt change anything.

Also does this, which is funny.

[gentle haven]

Yep

Exactly my problem

I believe it is SD somehow bugging out due to the cyberpunk settings save/load

[sleek quiver]

Remind me, what is SD again?

[gentle haven]

Seperate denoising

[sleek quiver]

Aha

[gentle haven]

Can you check the CET console while it does that?

[sleek quiver]

Am I doing it right? Not a whole lot it seems.

[gritty geode]

hmm okay. is it just the first load into the game, but not next time you load?

[gentle haven]

Hmmm

It show's something different from mine

[gentle haven]

For me the issue persists indefinitely

[gritty geode]

this should hopefully fix any remaining problems

[gritty geode]

oh that shouldn't happen

if you uncheck / check Use ReGIR for DI does it fix it?

[gentle haven]

Oh, didn't try that

I went back to 5.2.6 when I noticed the issue because I really wanted to just play and the blank menu issue fixed itself somehow

[gritty geode]

lmao

[sleek quiver]

Might be hard to see on the compressed vid, but in 5.2.9 everything is just very noisy instead. The lights are on though

[gritty geode]

how can i work under these conditions

[gritty geode]

the denoiser is disabled

[sleek quiver]

As in NRD denoiser?

NRD denoiser is on. At the end you can also still see some weird things after exiting pause screen. But the lights do come back though.

[sleek quiver]

I think you are doing great. This is the closest I have had it to working 100% perfect since 3.5, so I am super excited at least :)))

[gentle haven]

https://tenor.com/view/hugtrip-gif-2490966530865073004

[sleek quiver]

I just I hope I don't have any conflicting mods installed that might be causing me all my troubles. Since I have been struggling so much with all of 4.x.x and 5.x.x. 🥺 I just have no idea what it could be if thats the case.

I have to go to bed now anyways though, but Im down to try more things tomorrow.

[gritty geode]

😂 okay ty for the encouragement

[sleek quiver]

And to answer this one before I go:

1. I launch the game, I set ultra+ (5.2.8) settings, load save, everything looks good.
2. I pause the game / enter photo mode.
3. Lights are off once I resume game.

So I can play its just a bit unpractical to not be able to use any menus.

If I load the same save after this the lights are still off. Exiting to main menu and re-doing ultra+ (5.2.8) settings brings me back to step 1.

[gritty geode]

hmm okay i think this a bug with the photo mode logic

[gentle haven]

ah

nexus died again

[thick lichen]

Question for Sammi, how come the Ultra Plus tool makes my V look very low res in photo mode? Thats the only reason I dont use this tool... I use photo mode a lot and no matter the settings, V is very bad looking unless shined upon with a lot of light.

I am guessing thats where its cutting down on quality to improve it in other places?

[proper pivot]

So, big issue. I decided to en able the "ray reconstruction denoiser" or whatever that option is, and it's caused my game to crash- and then instantly crash upon startup. Even reinstalling the addon doesn't fix anything.. So, am a bit stuck. I tried looking through the config for the option to disable it there, but I'm not exactly sure which option is it. Any ideas?

[sleek quiver]

To me it seems like something happens when PTNext is activated again when resuming gameplay? It is the same response no matter if its photomode, pause menu, or inventory menu.

[sleek quiver]

Like here, when Ultra+ says "PTNext is active" in the console. Im just guessing though, you are the expert on this after all 🫡

[gritty geode]

it doesn't... can you send me a screenshot? 😊

[gritty geode]

just delete config.json in the UltraPlus folder ... ty, i'll add a fix for this

[proper pivot]

I’ll give that a shot. Thank you ^^

[gritty geode]

yes when it says "PTNext is active" it means "i've done everything that should be required for it to be activated" ... but because it's an engine hack it's not 100% guaranteed... not yet anyway

[sleek quiver]

I see!

Btw this is unrelated to all of the above, but are you still also getting this bug sammi? With the grass. Or is that also just on my end

[thick lichen]

Will do as its easily reproducible...

[gritty geode]

.....noooo .... ? 😂

i haven't had a chance to play this week, i will as soon as i can, hopefully i find all these bugs!

[proper pivot]

I was hoping this mod would fix it, and it seems like it did for a time.. I just, ugh. Raytracing will randomly cause my game to stutter SO bad, lol. Like ill be over 100 fps, and still stuttering hard. And its JUST from raytracing

[thick lichen]

@gritty geode See first shot, notice the arms and lips and nose. Especially the chin. There's a layer of washed out edges around them. This is with Ultra Plus - the most stable version.

Here its without the mod, notice the body looks fine without washed out edges.

This happens to a greater degree inside Vs apt. im guessing due to light bounces perhaps or could be something else... outside its less noticeble but still there.

[sleek quiver]

Ok thats good to know though. Will try to troubleshoot a bit for myself some time 🙂
Its weird how theres seemingly different bugs for different people.

[gritty geode]

yyyeeeepp

[gritty geode]

what CPU do you have?

[gritty geode]

I don't know what mode you're in

[sleek quiver]

Im curious if I set up DLSS tweaks wrong. And if that has done something. Does this info still match the setup you have?

[thick lichen]

I am on 21 with all settings set to High or Insane. Usually get around 35 FPS with them lol

[proper pivot]

5800X

[gritty geode]

can you please run the AMD driver auto detect tool. you are probably missing some parts of the PCI bridge drivers

[gritty geode]

I've never seen this problem before, I'll see if I can reproduce it

[proper pivot]

I’ve ran that already ^^ appreciate the suggestion tho. I’ve truly been stumped on this, lol. And it seems pretty inconsistent as well; sometimes I can go for a good few hours before it starts. Sometimes it happens instantly.
Running DLSS/Intel/AMD, frame gen on/off - nothing really makes a difference once it starts stuttering, I just have to turn ray tracing off, and it runs flawlessly.

This is also something new, never used to happen the last time I played. Just really weird all around lol

[thick lichen]

Be sure to try it in V's apt. first

[gritty geode]

otay 😊

[thick lichen]

appreciate ya!

also, stupid question you get asked all the time but if you got any tips for low FPS - I am on a 4090 and get 35FPS on 21 and high settings, I would think the Ultra mod would actually help gain FPS and not lower it lol

I remember trying the mod many months ago and it actually did help with FPS, with new update not so much with insane settings

I play on Balanced btw and still the quality tanks hehe

[gritty geode]

RT uses a lot of memory, how much vram do you have?

[thick lichen]

24GB

[gritty geode]

okay that's weird

[thick lichen]

weird indeed, im surprised at 35FPS myself

[gritty geode]

disabled core isolation / memory integrity?

[thick lichen]

umm... dont know

[proper pivot]

I’ve got 12. 4070 ti

[gritty geode]

35 fps is too low

unless you're running DLSS

[thick lichen]

Yes Im running Balanced DLSS

[gritty geode]

hmm you may need to turn texture down to medium for RT. there's a bug in CP 2.1x that it doesn't manage its memory properly

[thick lichen]

Not sure where to disable core ISO and Memory integrity...

[gritty geode]

what res?

[thick lichen]

4K

[gritty geode]

go to security > device security > disable memory integrity

[proper pivot]

I did try that. But ugh, I can’t lol. With all my mods, it leads my game to be super weird. Skin textures look super fucked if I’m not on high textures.

I’ll test some more stuff later on

[thick lichen]

Interesting ok I will try that

assuming its not super unsafe

[gritty geode]

that could be a skin mod that doesn't actually contain medium textures. a lot of modders don't

[proper pivot]

Yeah probably

[gritty geode]

while you're in there ideally also disable Control Flow Guard

[proper pivot]

I’ve got like 1300 more lol

[gritty geode]

just for cyberpunk not for anything else

[proper pivot]

Mods*

[thick lichen]

Oh so specifically access Cyberpunk's security settings

got it

[gritty geode]

for reference I get about 60fps on my laptop 4090 at 4k performance (DLSDR)

[gritty geode]

yes. if you want you can also add a realtime scanner exception for the CP EXE and folder

[thick lichen]

I know I have some heavy mods installed but can usually hang around 55FPS without this mod

[gritty geode]

AV has no business scanning games or any database

[proper pivot]

With my setup (4070 ti / 5800x) I can push 80fps at 4K resolution

140+ without ray tracing

[gritty geode]

okay so 'Fast' should improve visual quality and performance (depending on the mode, from 'a bit' to 'a lot') ...

Medium -> Insane will progressive increase performance but at the cost of fps

Insane PT21 is probably pointless tbh

I intentionally choke it so it slows down like the other modes

most modes high is enough

but if I don't put an insane mode people complain

[thick lichen]

I was playing around with diff. settings and really they werent making much impact on base FPS they would hover around 40 FPS and when walking around a bit would drop to around 35

[gritty geode]

PT21 is also the second least accurate mode

[thick lichen]

👀

[gritty geode]

PTNext -> PT20 -> PT21 -> PT16

[thick lichen]

ohh? whats the more accurate you would say... PT Next?

ah ok

[gritty geode]

the mode from CP 2.0 was more accurate in terms of lighting

[thick lichen]

Im guess PTNext will choke my system

so PT20 it is with Fast settings

[gritty geode]

and faster

but PTNext is the most accurate overall

[thick lichen]

awesome thank you

[gritty geode]

none are 100% perfect

[thick lichen]

yeah Im guessing until I resolve my FPS problem, PTNext is not worth it

[thick lichen]

Im guessing even vanilla isnt perfect either lol

[gritty geode]

PTNext, PT21, PT20, PT16

[gritty geode]

no. vanilla is basically PT21

[thick lichen]

WOW

that is crazy...not sure why the guy on the ground is glowing from underneath but Thats PT20?

I shall play around with it some more if we can figure out the photo mode

I spend a lot of time there and the soft white edges really kill the image unless you shine a lot of direct light

but thank you for everything

[gritty geode]

uhhh lol

you need the load a save for any more to fully activate btw

[thick lichen]

Ahh oops I dont think I did that haha

so start game, make/apply changes and then reload, got it

no wonder it didnt work haha

I knew PTNext required a fresh load but not regular settings too

[shadow heath]

why is there glowing stuff

is that a bug?

[gritty geode]

with CP, yes

those objects aren't fully in the path traced worldspace

this is what reLIGHT was created

*why

[shadow heath]

so you have to use PT21 if you don't want visual issues

is it still better than vanilla

[gentle haven]

Ofcourse

There is still adjustments from sammi

[languid cypress]

sorry if this is a known bug or common issue, but when using PTNext I occasionally get what seems to be shadows stuck to the edges of the screen. I'm using DLSS Performance at 4K, RR, and Frame generation. Preset E (loaded through special k). Using RenoDX as well. Framerate capped with special k. DLSS Dlls are newest versions, apart from RR which is 3.7.0. just curious if anyone else has experienced this or if there is a known workaround. PTNext looks mindblowing so I'd love to use it haha, PT20 still looks great but PTNext is on another level.

i'm also seeing a decent amount of motion instability/tearing despite using G Sync, but wondering if maybe that has to do with using an external frame limiter with frame generation?

[civic oracle]

is vignette disabled?

[languid cypress]

nope, but i've adjusted it to 30 in renodx's menu. is that what causes it?

[civic oracle]

how does 0 look?

it looks a bit like some auto exposure / eye-adaptation but it could be vignette messing with dlss/fg

[gentle haven]

I noticed that too

Mostly in the grass

[sleek quiver]

Two questions:

1. Are these instructions on DLSSTweaks from v3.5.3 still valid and OK to follow?
2. The line "If you are using Reshade, rename the DLSSTweaks DLL to xinput9_1_0.dll". I am using https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/13912. Should I rename nvngx.dll -> xinput9_1_0.dll?

[sleek quiver]

Seems like renaming it just crashes the game. Gives a DLSS enabler error on startup.

I just redid the installation of DLSS 3.7.20, DLSSD 3.7.0, frame gen mod, Reshade and DLSSTweaks. And I feel like that changed something.

I can now use v5.2.9 with PT20 and it looks good I think??? PTNext still looks noisy as if the denoiser is missing (per previous vid), but PT20 looks nice. Cant remember if I actually tested that before or not though. I am still seeing a bit of the grass light bug (also per previous vid), but its much less.

I am also seeing a HUGE difference between PT20 Medium and High. In Medium all lights are noticable blotchy, while on High not at all. Is the difference meant to be that noticable?

Either I had a bit of a break through or I was just stupid and forgot to test v5.2.9 PT20 before.

[minor smelt]

https://github.com/emoose/DLSSTweaks Would use it directly from the official source and just use its config executable to force preset C in combination with a dev-version of ngngx_dlss.dll from the most recent demo: https://github.com/NVIDIA/DLSS/releases/tag/v3.7.10

And follow all instructions here: https://github.com/emoose/DLSSTweaks/blob/master/README.md Especially the EnableNvidiaSigOverride.reg thingy 🙂

[gritty geode]

no just leave it as nvngx.dll now 😊

[gritty geode]

no there shouldn't be a huge difference between Medium and High doe PT20... can you show me the blotchy lights?

[gritty geode]

if shadows are on the screen this means PTNext hasn't initialized properly ... you're clocking PTNext then loading a save game?

[languid cypress]

Yup. Initialized PTNext, quick saved and quick loaded. It seems to happen randomly, can’t seem to narrow down what causes it unfortunately. I’ve also noticed CET’s hotkey stops working sometimes after a few minutes into the game session, can’t tell if that’s just the menu failing to load or CET as a whole stopping. I’ll post here if I encounter the issue again and hopefully more information on the circumstances that might be causing it.

Also I started using the cinematic RTX launch command, is it normal that I need to hit apply in my settings on every game launch? I saw that ultra plus fixes the graphics settings resetting thankfully, but I do still need to apply my settings on every launch. Not a big deal at all to do that only takes a couple seconds, just curious if that’s expected behavior.

[thick lichen]

So I tried Ultra Plus again for perhaps the 8th or 10th time last night and well It just doesnt do what I think it does. I dont know what PQ settings looks good and performance is always choppy on my 4090. So I just leave it off for now.

But I want to thank Sammi for her dedication to the mod and help each and every person who comes here with questions. I see a lot of other modders on here just being snarky and not helpful or dont even respond while Sammi takes the time to help everyone out as much as possible.

This mod isnt for me but this kind of service is hard to find these days so thank you for everything @gritty geode Hope you continue to do good work for the Cyberpunk community.

[gritty geode]

you'll have to talk to the CET peeps about this one 😊

[gritty geode]

yes because the game changes all the graphics settings when you use cinematic rtx, and U+ changes them back for you 😊

[gritty geode]

oh thank you ❤️. I don't know what PQ means 🤔

[thick lichen]

hehe picture quality

[sleek quiver]

This is v5.2.9 PT20 on Medium. Forgive that kinda dark video, its HDR gameplay :S It also "smears" in a much more noticable way when the edge of the screen passes over the light.

Same scene on High. To me thats a pretty noticable difference. Is it supposed to be that noticable?

[sleek quiver]

I now have "DLSS SDK - DO NOT DISTRIBUTE - CONTACT NVIDIA TO OBTAIN DLLs FOR YOUR TITLE" in the bottom right. How do I get rid of that? It was the demo version of nvngx_dlss.dll that did it.

[sleek quiver]

And do you know how to get rid of black squares on the left side? I read that sammi recommends setting Resolution Offset: 0 in dlsstweaks. But it is already 0.

[gentle haven]

Might the dlss hud be enabled?

[sleek quiver]

😮 dlss hud? What does that mean?

[gentle haven]

It's something that can be enabled through dlsstweaks and shows in the bottom left the resolution, mode, ray reconstruction data, etc

But I noticed it gets affected by dlss fg and turns black during movement

So yours might be completely bugged and be permanently black

[sleek quiver]

Aha. I dont think its that though? Check out the left side here, where the edge of screen meets the couch. Only shows when using dlss.

[gentle haven]

Oh yeah no

[minor smelt]

Recommended those as they allow to change the preset

[minor smelt]

That you can also disable by disabling the DLSS hud indeed through the DLSSTweaks executable

[sleek quiver]

Ooooh, ok I will give that a shot. Ty

I just copy it from here right? Theres nothing more to it?

[minor smelt]

https://github.com/emoose/DLSSTweaks This is the Github page which should contain all basic info

[minor smelt]

yes, that DLL

Is the latest dev one, allowing DLSSTweaks or you yourself (not 100% sure which) to change the preset

think you can do that while in-game through the DLSS hud

That is the option to force enable or disable the in-game DLSS hud

[sleek quiver]

Force disable the hud didnt actually remove it for me 😦

[sleek quiver]

Also, for some reason preset C doesnt seem to save, or the ingame hud is wrong. Inside dlsstweaks everything says C

[minor smelt]

Busy today, could look into this for you tomorrow

[shadow heath]

Preset E is the best one right now

[gentle haven]

Sammi keeps saying c

[shadow heath]

depends on input and output resolution

maybe C is better at lower res I don't know

[gentle haven]

It had something to do with ghosting I believe

[civic oracle]

could be an edge case thing with CP2077 specifically due to the amount of noise in its visuals

[gritty geode]

cyberpunk with path tracing is different from other games because it uses very different denoisers. I found preset E had very unstable edges on objects (just comparing a screenshot from C and E). but ultimately it's whatever you like 😊

I'm just cautious because there's already been a very loud "use preset E!!" message out there... well, that hasn't been my experience

[civic oracle]

going to get myself into a rabbit hole now with DLDSR and preset testing

[gritty geode]

oh yay 😊. good luck

[thick lichen]

Can you pls do a comparison for PT21, PT20, and Vanilla game?

[thick lichen]

Heres mine with Vanilla, PT21, PR20

[proper pivot]

So running this + the Reno hdr mod, makes my interiors insufferably dark. Can’t see anything. But outside is super bright. Any help on fixing this maybe? Not sure what to change exactly

[covert monolith]

Change Reno’s settings

#🖼️hdr-screenshots message

Try these

[proper pivot]

I can give that a shot

[covert monolith]

It’ll give you something that’ll match the general look of SDR but with hdr highlights

[civic oracle]

Make sure to load a game after changing settings so they get applied correctly.
The different RT/PT modes do make darker areas change in their presentation also, more accurate lighting can darken a scene.

Rolling the contrast slider back a bit to closer to 40 and raising the shadows a few ticks up to 55 +/- should help balance things out.

[proper pivot]

Thanks for the replies. I’ll play with it some more ^^

Still gotta figure out why ray tracing/path tracing randomly stutters. I’m thinking it’s probably just a mod conflict. I run the “city of dreams” collection atm.
But tbh I’m starting to feel it’ll be better to wipe it, and just install a shit load of mods that I specifically want lol

[civic oracle]

Less is more indeed. Just increases the potential for conflicts.

[proper pivot]

Yeah. Maybe find a collection that just has a shit load of outfits and nothing else; just to make gathering a bunch of outfits easier in my end

[civic oracle]

It's amazing how far CP2077 has come, with HDR fixed and the image quality lifted up with Ultra+ we are really spoiled. Have so much love for this game.

I look forward to see what we can get out of it with the RTX 5000 series.

[proper pivot]

It truly does look amazing; when it works (on my end lmao)

Yeah that’ll be exciting

I’m running a 4070 ti with a 5800x atm. And outside of the stuttering, with path tracing on it still pushes over 60 fps in the city. Which is more than enough for me to enjoy a RPG game

[civic oracle]

It'd be nice to push the visuals to the limit and still get a nice 100 FPS baseline framerate before frame gen so there's no floaty disconnect when aiming.

[proper pivot]

Yeah frame gen just causes issues, even with mods to “fix” it

The biggest bump for me was when I finally swapped off DLSS.
AMD and Intel just seems to run better, and has SIGNIFICANTLY less ghosting/smearing

[civic oracle]

I try to avoid using FG where I can, I think the only games I've ever used it in were CP2077, Alan Wake 2 and Hellblade 2 just out of necessity.

[proper pivot]

I guess the only downside is games are leaning heavily on things like DLSS/frame gen to run well

[civic oracle]

I really like DLSS and DLDSR techniques, only gripe I have really with FG is the input lag it's just something I'm sensitive to.

[proper pivot]

Maybe it’s a system by system thing, but DLSS just causes an insane level of smearing and ghosting for me in cyberpunk

[civic oracle]

Game has a lot of noise in its visual presentation and the lower the frame rate goes the worse it all gets.

In the sense that DLSS is amplifying the noise and creating new artifacts. Getting rid of chromatic aberration, film grain, motion blur and raising the FPS helps a lot.

Sammi's recommendation was to use preset C for DLSS in this game.

[proper pivot]

Maybe I can try that at some point. But I’ve never used the dlsstweaks thing or whatever, so never thought about it

[civic oracle]

SpecialK lets you do it too

[gritty geode]

why can't you switch between them in realtime?

[gritty geode]

do you have Not So Good Draw Distance installed? did you see my comments about AMD chipset drivers?

[thick lichen]

I thought you have to load a game everytime you change settings?

[gritty geode]

"kind of"

it may not fully activate, especially inside or at night

but during the day you should get a good idea

[thick lichen]

Yeah im just looking for your recommendation on where vanilla falls in terms of accurate PT

[gritty geode]

or the other way to do it is press F5 to quick save, then F9 to quick load, take a screenshot, change modes, F9, screenshot ... etc

i do have some comparison shots in the images of the mod, i am just notoriously bad at making them for some reason

[thick lichen]

Cool ill see if I can find something there

Thnx

[sleek quiver]

Found another location that even better highlights the differences in Medium / High PT20 on v5.2.9 for me. Just putting it here in case its useful for later.

[sleek quiver]

Also noticed v5.2.9 is running a lot worse, at 28fps on high, while v5.2.8 is 48fps on high. Might be useless info tho, since v5.2.9 looks more correct than 5.2.8 anyways (in that specific setup).

[thick lichen]

did we ever reach a concensus as to whats the best optimal settings are?

[gritty geode]

hmm, that's just a flat out bug, thank you i'll fix

[sleek quiver]

Also affects the levels below Medium, just so you know 🙂

[gritty geode]

fank you

i broke something apparently

[sleek quiver]

Might be something off in my setup also tho just keep that in mind. I cant get PTNext to work right either, and really never have in all 5.x.x versions. But I would be SO happy if it ended up working.

[gritty geode]

hmm okay. i'll be able to spend some time on it this weekend i think

[stable kestrel]

New here..

PT20 with fast settings..
what’s the visual difference v
S medium/high quality settings ? Vs native?? Looking for good comparisons. I also run a bunch of upscale texture mods with Dlss balance to alleviate the lack of vram (4080s 16gb).

[gentle haven]

You have 16gb vram and you are saying lack of vram

Man most of us have less than that

[stable kestrel]

Well with all
The texture and uoscaled mods for this game and near maxed out settings it hits a lot of vram.. 4080 should have been 20gbs

4080s

[gritty geode]

High turns on spatial samples, but they only affect certain very specific surfaces, like the concrete floor I'm the ground floor/foyer of H10. and high has 2 bounces vs 1

medium has no spatial samples, because, again, they cost a lot, and only affect a handful of textures. but medium has 2 bounces also

fast is as fast as I can make it while still competing with vanilla quality

in reality the second bounce only matters on about 10-15% of objects and at certain times of day

[stable kestrel]

So fast would be the way to go for visuals vs performance if needed? Also would it be counterintuitive to run Dlss in balanced or performance mode at 4k res in favor of running PT20 in medium or high settings??

[gritty geode]

yup! I run 4k performance DLSDR at 1600p

[stable kestrel]

So your DLDSR res is 2.5x then upscaled using DLSS performance?

Don’t know if I can run that with all my already upscaled texture mods with my measly 4080supers 16gb vram..

What are your in game graphics settings if you don’t mind me asking?

[thick lichen]

I would also like to know the ingame settings/resolution... and do you mean 2880 x 1620 option for DLSDR? Cuz if its 2880x1620, then its no longer 4K? confusing...

[stable kestrel]

how do I turn off ultra pluses raster Game graphics settings in the CET gui??Every time I change graphics settings in game it switches back after I reload the game.. CET/ultraPlus is the culprit due to me having raster settings on high… thanks

[thick lichen]

uninstall the mod

[stable kestrel]

Your answer is to uninstall Ultra PLus woth control??

Thats not a solution if I want to still use PT20 settings.

[thick lichen]

well its controlling the in game settings... so ya thats the only solution

[stable kestrel]

Anybody else have a viable solution?

[stable kestrel]

I found where the file is located. I a testing something just in case anyone else has issue. (Backup file then renaming it)

[gritty geode]

I only have a laptop 4090 with 16GB

[gritty geode]

I think I'm going to remove that functionality

or yes just comment out Config.SetGraphics()

[stable kestrel]

Please ace it.. or make it to where you can it is still there but you need to toggle it on or off to take effect then hit apply on the graphics setting.. like a check box to say “use this”

[gritty geode]

wilco 😊

or i was thinking i can actually detect if cyberpunk is in cinematic_RTX mode, and only enforce graphics if it is

[stable kestrel]

Yeah cause most people are not on that mode.. 99% can’t handle it unless you got a 4090.. either way works. You’re the smart one. I just have ideas..lol

[shadow heath]

what is that mode?

[gritty geode]

if you launch the game with -qualityLevel=Cinematic_RTX it goes into the mode they used to record some of the trailers

[mystic scroll]

Is it worth using?

[shadow heath]

Does that basically max out everything at once?

[stable kestrel]

I just changed the .ini file name and it doesn’t register so win win!!

[gritty geode]

easy 😂

thank goodness for elegant fallbacks 😂

[gaunt hinge]

is there any clear indicator that cinematic_RTX is enabled with that setting added?

i can tell it definitely flipped over the graphics settings since motion blur got turned on. disgusting

[cyan scarab]

I noticed it turns off raytracing in the GPU options... like wtf?

[bleak basalt]

Hey I am loving this mod and the performance gains along with the visual fixes. I have a question about RT+PT option. I can't seem to get it to work. It seems to look the same and have the same performance as just the RT option even when I load a save. What could I be doing wrong? I have all the RT options enabled including lighting. Thanks!

[late vine]

Hey guys, I haven’t been here in a couple months. What is the state of PTNext currently?

[bleak basalt]

How do people get Rt+Pt to work? I see lots of comments that people prefer it but I can't seem to make it any different from the RT setting.

[shadow heath]

any idea if this mod works with the VR mod? I'd be interested in trying optimized PT or rt pt in VR

[gentle haven]

I think normal pt gonna be disorientating as hell

If it works

[gritty geode]

you could certainly try. PT16 might work for VR

[gentle haven]

https://tenor.com/view/tim-and-friends-tim-micallef-jesse-rubinoff-awkward-awkward-meme-gif-27532913

You doing okay sammi?

[gaunt skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-burns-dont-forget-youre-here-forever-gif-18420566

[shadow heath]

till she's 90

[gentle haven]

https://tenor.com/view/life-barrel-me-roll-gif-17943995

[gentle haven]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-reaction-information-my-reaction-to-that-information-my-honest-reaction-to-that-information-gif-613275461876515673

[gaunt hinge]

oh, hey.

FSR3 came out

[gentle haven]

for cyberpunk?

ay and ray reconstruction + dlaa

[thick lichen]

who plays with DLAA? My future self with a 7090

[cyan scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-excited-this-guy-two-thumbs-jim-gif-14850417969904358366

[gentle haven]

same

[sleek quiver]

So what base mods actually need to be updated for it not to break in patch 2.13? Is it just CET I need to wait for, or is it all of the bangers like redscript RED4ext, ArchiveXL, TweakXL, Codeware

Dont really want to update and find out myself

[gritty geode]

I'm okay. I had the covidroids

but I'm good now 😊

[subtle plinth]

sammi they said on the 2.13 update that there were "Other stability and visual fixes."... how do you make those ini dumps that you have uploaded to nexus before? is it a command in CET? i'd like to see if there is anything like that they hav changed and if so what

of course it might not be anything that shows up in such an ini dump but still

[gentle haven]

Good that you're better

[gentle haven]

Don't immediately give her work

[gritty geode]

I doubt they've changed anything in the inis. but yes it's just an option in CET settings

keep in mind that cyberpunk changes some ini values as the game launches, after CET dumps them

[gritty geode]

Cyberpunk 2077 Ultra+ 2.13 Patch Patch Patch Patch

[subtle plinth]

hallo

@gritty geode art thou in here?

if i disable Raytracing/EnableAmbientOcclusion in rt or rtpt mode (manual just ini files) would i get the non-RT AO implementation instead or would there be no AO?

just thinking neither rtao or ssao or whatever ao technique they use in this game look that good, so if i could get a few fps or ability to run in a slightly higher native res then it could maybe be worth it

[gritty geode]

indeed I am!

[gritty geode]

hmm, I think ray tracing only used raster AO 🤔

[gentle haven]

You said something about that

that the only difference with rtpt and pt is that AO doesnt work

or something like that

here

[gritty geode]

that's what Krush said, I'm not sure though

has anyone heard from him? I really hope he's okay

[gentle haven]

I wouldn't know. This is his last active on nexus.

[gritty geode]

well that's more recent than when we last spoke so hopefully that's good

[gritty geode]

https://tenor.com/bpk7m.gif

https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/10490
5.3.0

• Fixed white screen on startup (credit to robber804)
• Fixed game crashes around Lizzy's Bar (credit to robber804)
• Added the ability to not override the in-game graphics menu
• Increased rain map batch size

[gentle haven]

https://tenor.com/view/aaaaaaa-gif-8259382018807366755

https://tenor.com/view/baby-scream-yeah-hockey-kid-gif-24698394

[gritty geode]

thank you for your patience everyone 🙏

hi Grim 😊

[gentle haven]

hiya sammi

Its great to see you're back

Any symptoms still left or are you completely healed?

[gritty geode]

I think I'm 95% there. I wake up with a weird cough every second night but it's nothing much 😊

ty for asking 😊

[gentle haven]

aw, that still sucks

[civic oracle]

nice work Sammi, welcome back ⚡

[sleek quiver]

Love to see it! Sucks to be sick for so long, hope you will be all good soon

[sleek quiver]

Probably no surprise as this wasnt the goal of this update, but this is still happening in 5.3.0 🙂 Not nagging, just for documentation sake on the off-chance that it actually had changed for some reason. As well as PTNext looking mostly un-denoised on my system

[gritty geode]

oh thank you! I did test for these things but only did quick tests. I'll be able to spend more time on it this weekend I think. I was also trying to see wtf is happening for shiny hair with RT/RT+PT

thank you everyone for the kind words, it means a lot 🙏😊❤️

[gentle haven]

@gritty geode

found a bug

they white

ah yes

more white

uhm

Might be something broken on my end in this case

or is

2.13 not supported yet?

[mint scroll]

I had that problem and it was caused by another mod. I believe I solved it by updating RenoDX.

[gentle haven]

Oh

But it goes away whenever i turn of u+

But yeah i haven't updated that one

[mint scroll]

Sammi did release an update for Ultra+ yesterday, but even the previous version of Ultra+ worked fine with 2.13 for me,

[gentle haven]

Hm

I know she did

I was the first to repond🤣

[mint scroll]

My bad, didn't notice.

[gentle haven]

Cool username btw

[mint scroll]

Thanks!

[gritty geode]

this is fine

hmm it's not white on mine

[sleek quiver]

Have any of you experienced a lot more crashes recently? Mainly when driving around city blocks and highways.

At first I thought it was Ultra+, but turns out its just path tracing in general. With path tracing on I basically can not drive from point a to point b without having a crash at some point. On just normal raster there is nothing. I have no idea how to fix it 😭

[sleek quiver]

Omg i finally got it. Turns out it was the Not So Good Draw Distance mod. Are any of you using that?

[mint scroll]

I'm using it without much problems. Do you have the "Not So Good Draw Distance Compatibility" setting enabled in the Ultra+ menu?

[sleek quiver]

Yeah its on. It was crashing without having Ultra+ installed as well. Maybe I was just having some weird conflicts or my GPU couldnt handle it.

[mint scroll]

Looking at the Nexus Mods page it looks like several people are getting random crashes as well. So it looks like the mod is just unstable for some people.

[sleek quiver]

Saw that too. I just got another crash though so Im guessing I have a bunch of things in my game causing instability 😵‍💫

[gritty geode]

what do you think lol? 100% optional. people have sent me gifts and planted trees to support me (I love trees). I figure this could help fund some games and some time on my hair brained schemes lol

[covert monolith]

Hare brained

[mint scroll]

I don't think I'd be a bad idea. You certainly put a lot of effort into the Ultra Plus mods, which makes them worth supporting.

[gentle haven]

the description on the uber and uber mega🤣

[oak vale]

Wouldn’t mind at all, especially if it affords more Ultra Plus mods for other games.

[gritty geode]

I don't think it would change my output... but I'm certainly open to working on other games. I've learnt masses working on the last several. the biggest questions are usually how many problems does the game have, how frequent are updates. some games are very fast. I probably need to be careful! to limit time spent on games like Survivor and Cyberpunk because they can just absorb all my time

[gritty geode]

😂

lmao my husband thinks i've lost it

[gaunt skiff]

The worst thing is that he might be right

[gritty geode]

ta-daaa https://www.patreon.com/SammiLucia 😄

[mint scroll]

I think you're fine as long as you don't make TempleOS Ultra Plus

[gaunt skiff]

You go girl

[gritty geode]

hi all i'd like to announce my latest mod Hannah Montana Linux Ultra Plus

[civic oracle]

✨

[minor smelt]

User: @gritty geode Reason: extremely bad taste in mod-making. Sentence: death 💀

[subtle plinth]

nice

I realized now that the thing causing my weird heavy noise in RR that i was talking about 1-2 months ago was probably because of dlss scales through dlsstweaks...

i completely disabled dlsstweaks and it disappeared, you can still see where it is but now it freezes as it should into a pattern and gets soft instead of being noisy on screen

[covert monolith]

https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/16849?tab=description

anyone know if having this and ultra plus is redundant

[gritty geode]

also Ultra Fog now works with any other mod https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/11811

[gritty geode]

ooo

[covert monolith]

i'm pretty sure there already existed similar mods for hair rt but i cant find them

https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/9381

this one was removed

restore hair shadows for ray tracing

is ultra skin still in the works

[gritty geode]

i still use it, i just never released it 🤔

all it does it change skin to 12-15% shiny (like Butter my V, but not 25% shiny 🙄)

[shadow heath]

it was fixed by a patch

[gritty geode]

oo that looks cool

nicely done

[gritty geode]

okay i've added ray/bounce number to the perceptual auto-scaler (Target FPS)

[subtle plinth]

i'm adding it now, 3 bounces at quality levels 4-6, 3 bounces makes a difference at some places at the Afterlife... and many other places too but it's the only place i know for sure where you can easily see the difference toggling between 2 and 3... if i knew how i'd like it to trigger certain places or situations, like in lizzies, afterlife... places that are know for it to be noticeable but where you are unlikely to get in a fight

[gritty geode]

v5.3.2
I've changed "Target FPS" so that:

1. It can now jump levels. (Previously it would gradually increase or decrease quality by only 1 step every 5 seconds. It can now e.g. jump from 15% to 100% quality or back. So if it's running at 100% quality and you suddenly need FPS, it can reduce quality quickly to give you FPS much sooner. (And vice versa, if you have spare FPS, it can increase quality quickly.)
2. It now controls rays and bounces for PT16, PT20, and RT+PT, so has more comprehensive control over perceptual quality

this doesn't go up to 3 bounces at the highest quality but it might as well, I don't think it will add much cost

[gritty geode]

hmm, we could make a whitelist of places like that and U+ could just enable the 3rd bounce if it's in a whitelist location. pretty easy 😊

[dapper bolt]

Odd yes, I've noticed that recently too. In my case, however, CTDs only happen when driving with certain car mods. I have no problems with vanilla cars.

[sleek quiver]

Good to know. I have no car mods installed though. It did help a lot to remove Not So Good Draw Distance for me. It made path tracing crazy unstable.

[gritty geode]

hmm that's good to know

[subtle plinth]

this is amazing, very excited to play this when i come home to my better gaming computer (i only have a 2060 super at my house in the country where i am now)

@Mads do you have NSGDD at default settings? how much vram do you have?

nsgdd with non-default settings can cause a lot of issues with RT and PT, and even default settings can cause vram problems (i have 16GB vram, playing DLSS 'Balanced' on 4k, so 2275x1280 internal res. and i use almost all my vram playing with Ultra+ RTPT)

[shut kernel]

In latest build (5.3.2) i found that with pt20 and pt16 there are some missing light while ptnext looks ok. I installed ultrafog as well. Patch 2.13 of the game. Here is an example. Is this normal? thank you.

[shut kernel]

Ok revert to 5.3.0 solve this issue 🙂

[gritty geode]

sorry i had to wait to be able to convert these before i could look

[gritty geode]

local lights aren't working. how many times did you try to load in PT20? just once?

[shut kernel]

thank you for your reply, I had to install the new build from scratch to solve the issue. Maybe other mod conflicts with u+ idk. Now works as expected 🙂

[shut kernel]

Sorry, I hope I don't need to send other pics in the future at least not for troubleshooting 🙂 anyway how can I send them? PNG? I usually take a screenshot directly with the win gamebar.

[gritty geode]

oh that's very strange!

[gritty geode]

oh, you're fine either way 😊

[fading kayak]

nikowave

[gritty geode]

https://tenor.com/view/spaceballs-state-of-the-art-amiga-demo-amiga-amiga500-gif-22087608

[fading kayak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1289244074523627551.webp?size=48

[stable kestrel]

Is there an optimaztion guide for graphics when using PTNext medium setting? Like when using this mod are there certain graphical settings that I can or need to be adjusted higher/lower because the mod makes them look better anyways or??? Can I just use hardware unboxed or Benchmarking optimization settings???

[civic oracle]

the optimisations are already baked in and selected for you according to the chosen preset selected

[stable kestrel]

I mean the actual graphic settings, like fog, resolution, shadow, resolution, Texter, quality, all of those, not necessarily with mod

[civic oracle]

Since you're able to use PTNext is it safe to assume that you shouldn't be constrained by VRAM for max textures?

I run everything high and if I need extra frames they are coming from changing my DLSS scaling factor.

[stable kestrel]

4080s 16gb..

Not really

But sort of

[stable kestrel]

Does it matter if I use screen space reflections with the ultra plus mod in the graphics setting?
Will even be able to tell any difference with on or off with this mod??
Or is there any benefit to keeping it on while using the mod

[sleek quiver]

https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/16428

Anyone tried this and noticed an actual difference in anything?

[fading kayak]

@gritty geode

I see you responded to it

It might work, but I think what he did was the same that I tried with the vending machine + the tree the first time we were messing with global light which didn't do what we want it to

oh yeah

Im grim btw

forgot to say that

[fading kayak]

sammi did a bit ago, seeing by the comments

this

and this

[gaunt skiff]

https://youtu.be/QemtGzGngEA

[civic oracle]

I love these - have you seen the video of "Paulie Walnuts" from Sopranos where he's in DOOM Eternal?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKlagulPPj8

[gaunt skiff]

This is by far my favorite
https://youtu.be/aw1O6jpASTI?si=ZWf7ZbuHVx27yx47

Followed by
https://youtu.be/2_rY6gn7GNM

[shadow acorn]

They're all good

Dude pumps out quality

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QemtGzGngEA

[gritty geode]

hey everyone, i'm just letting you know i will still be here, however the primary support for all Ultra+ mods is now the official Discord. https://discord.gg/j8C8jebB

the last few weeks jumping between several places for support i have realised there are 500k downloads and this is not going down, so i think it's time to centralise 😊

[molten pawn]

Hello, is there a way to fix the whole white screen bug when using reno dx pq lut sampling on sdr?

[minor smelt]

@gritty geode The invite for you server expired.

[gritty geode]

oopsies ty 😊 https://discord.gg/HUJCw9k2wq

[crimson sierra]

There's a new ray reconstruction and frame generation dlss on techpowerup today

[eager vale]

Is it me or does CP 2077 DLSS 4 look worse?

Than it did before

[gaunt skiff]

Absolutely not, at least without u+

[near sandal]

Worse compared to what? And what is your base of reference

Transformer DLSS, RR and FG are better across the board 4K + PT + (advanced PT Restir DI + Regir GI) on my end

Less ghosting, less noise, less oily smearing from RR

Transformer model has quirks and bugs yes

Stripped patterns in fog and other volumetric fx

Foliage in 2077 has some weird shimmering

But you also have to remember this is Transformer DLSS at its infancy

[eager vale]

My bad I should’ve clarified, I meant recent recent even after transformer model

[gaunt skiff]

Are we talking RR or regular DLSS?

[near sandal]

Preset K is worse for you than Preset J?

And that'll be for DLSS only since RR is still preset K

[tawdry belfry]

Hey people. Any way to reset some kind if internal settings by default? I was messing with multiple LoD mods and I kind of broke the game. Haha. Meshes behaving weirdly, some shadows not loading...

[tawdry belfry]

There was also a mod to fix this right? Sorry for highking the thread though. Haha.

[near sandal]

It is caused by speedtrees not being setup for use with RT/PT

Something about proxy mesh with baked shadowmap

The fix is to adjust the mesh but this stops all foliage movement (modders have run into issues with having both fixed shadows and movement)

https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/12252