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short halo
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starts when you enter your name

pastel ivy
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Then it stops the moment where slot machine music starts?

short halo
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idk

pallid steppe
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Yea true

sweet folio
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a billion would be insane

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youd need some of the craziest luck to do that

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98 MILLION WHAAT

short halo
sweet folio
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thats insane

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i cant win two in a row

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how did you do that

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the game is so luck based that feels impossible

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thats like 50 rounds in a row?? almost like 12 doubles?

short halo
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use items optimally 👍

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50 rounds would be billion territory, this was 36

gentle vapor
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I.e. just because there's more blank rounds in the gun does not necessarily mean it's best to shoot yourself

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Obviously in the end there is always some luck to getting ideal results, but mitigating that luck is how you get far

iron sedge
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always shoot yourself

sweet folio
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Like 50 rounds in a row

gentle vapor
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For sure

topaz belfry
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works crazy good

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that is unless I KNOW it's a blank lol

iron sedge
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1 live 2 blank?

topaz belfry
short halo
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if no items are involved its literally always good to shoot the dealer

iron sedge
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its always good to shoot the dealer

topaz belfry
sweet folio
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i mean i guess it could maybe be worth shooting him

short halo
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yes its better to shoot the dealer lol

tulip talon
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Also, if there's more blankets he's more likely to shoot himself

vocal swan
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Successfully shot myself twice in a row earlier 😀

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Oh and-

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He had 4 saws the entire time, this is before double or nothing though. So it just fed him saws.

compact crown
sullen gorge
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I finally got a million ($1201923) on double or nothing, now all I have to do is do that again and lose it

sullen gorge
# vocal swan Successfully shot myself twice in a row earlier 😀

Its never worth it to shoot yourself, you are almost always better off shooting the dealer unless you know for sure the next shell will be a blank (magnifying glass, burned phone, or counting shells), in which case you shoot yourself. At any other time you should always shoot the dealer.

chilly frost
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guys i just got the weirdest score ever in buckshot
20

vocal swan
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But sometimes I can cuff him and successfully call like 3 to 4 bullets. It's different every time ofc

sullen gorge
# short halo not true

It is true, because for me whenever I go "Ok, there are four shells left: three blanks, and a live." So I shoot myself with the live, the dealer handcuffs me, uses the polarity reverser, shoots me, uses the polarity reverser, saws, shoots me again.

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I'm called Mr Unfortunate for a reason you know

pastel ivy
plucky wyvern
short halo
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he literally provides examples that supports my claim in that video

pallid steppe
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If dealer has inverter you have to shoot him

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Thi

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Tho

vocal swan
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I feel like it just depends on your situation.. like a agree to disagree kinda thing bc every run is different.

lilac swallow
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the expected value with 1 live 1 blank against dealer with inverter is -0.5 either way (dealer health loss is positive, player health loss is negative)
shoot dealer, miss - 1 damage to player
shoot dealer, hit - 1 damage to dealer, 1 damage to player
shoot self, miss - 1 damage to dealer
shoot self, hit - 2 damage to player

shooting the dealer is less variance but not necessarily better

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though i would do it in most cases

pastel ivy
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Whatever method forces dealer to shoot himself is a win in my book

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  • points if its a live
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Dealer prefers to shoot himself if more blanks left.

plucky wyvern
gentle vapor
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Shooting the dealer even when you know it’s a live/likely to be a live might not be the best choice at times

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It can sometimes be more important to never let the Dealer get the gun to prevent them from healing or utilize the live left in the gun to shoot you because they have a knife to deal double damage vs the 1 damage you deal to yourself, or when attempting to setup a particular round with information you got from the burner phone

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Though it is safe to say that in the absence of items, it's always more efficient to shoot the Dealer

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(though good luck with that, items are incredibly plentiful)

hearty spoke
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is this normal?

topaz belfry
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if you are in DoN mode, ever minute that passes results in -4000 dollars on the first gauntlet

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take too long, 10 dollars prize

hearty spoke
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i see i was afk for like an hour lol

topaz belfry
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ahh

hearty spoke
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curious does the timer start after the waiver?

lilac swallow
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as soon as you confirm your name

hearty spoke
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cool cool

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100k is the starting amount?

lilac swallow
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70k

hearty spoke
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k thanks

marble zealot
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i just got 10 bucks too, it happens when you take a long time

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but i was afk for around ten minutes

grim eagle
terse grove
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holy shit

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first time LMAO

topaz belfry
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could be wrong

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but I don't think it's possible

iron sedge
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try for 69 dollars

rain blaze
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how?!

errant pilot
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Lmao second round

topaz belfry
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no

topaz belfry
iron sedge
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what is possible, then?

topaz belfry
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well it goes down by 4000 each minute

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according to someone

iron sedge
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but is it exactly 4000 at 60 seconds, or an incriment every second?

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im sure there can be a TAS to prove its possible

topaz belfry
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I don't know

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ask someone who knows game code

short halo
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ok not that close

lilac swallow
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var ten_minutes_seconds = 600
var ten_minutes_score_loss = 40000
var score_deduction = initial_time / ten_minutes_seconds * ten_minutes_score_loss    
endscore = 70000 - int(score_deduction)
if (endscore < 10): endscore = 10

i don't know gdscript but from what i can gather initial_time is the time taken in seconds, counting fractional seconds - like it can record 1.5 seconds instead of just 1 or 2 seconds. i think in theory any special amount of money below 70k is possible but highly unlikely

topaz belfry
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oh

terse grove
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someone said above that in DoN that every minute that passes in the first gauntlet is -4000 dollars lmao

zenith island
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ez

lilac swallow
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ez pz

wise flicker
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Insane that people have scores beyond the Decillions

lilac swallow
wise flicker
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Had to have

rancid copper
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When multiplayer

wise flicker
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Next major update

crimson rampart
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this should genuinely be merch

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I would wear that

weary tangle
errant pilot
lilac swallow
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two meelion dollars

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i am officially a 1%er

candid sparrow
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Holy shit bro's cracked

sweet folio
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it is not a highscore, its very easy to get, and its like 50% of the posts here

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annoying af

topaz belfry
spice moss
flint sable
topaz belfry
# spice moss Damn

if you don't use cigs or beer in story mode you get 70k (and if you don't experience true death too)

topaz belfry
hearty folio
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proud of that one

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aiming for 100m next time

lilac swallow
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daaaang

wooden surge
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wait so getting a mil is actualy like really impressive what

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shit i might just go for it again

jolly dome
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Nice score Dealercursedokay congrats!

dusk salmon
granite burrow
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not that impressive but achievement worthy

lavish pivot
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Dang my best score is only 240k

lavish pivot
coarse wasp
gentle vapor
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You lose money on any death

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According to the code, for new legs fees

coarse wasp
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Well yeah, unbroken femurs are kinda hard to find in this door kicking world

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Especially with metal doors installed

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No need to worry about vital organs, I'm sure the shells don't cause as much damage as alcohol and directly breathed in carbon dioxide (and maybe carbon monoxide, depends on the room's ventilation system)

vocal swan
lavish pivot
vocal swan
indigo mirage
coarse wasp
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You just won a death game! Congrats! Here's your 10$...

chrome moat
lament edge
gloomy hedge
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I had to check if there was an achievement for the 0$

abstract dune
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"l cash"

gloomy hedge
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native cliff
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this might be a dumb question but what determines the amount of cash you get?

warped spoke
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DoN, the time you take
Normal game, the items you use and how many times you die (I think)

gentle vapor
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Both start at a base of 70k

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Double or Nothing also has a lower cap of $10

gloomy hedge
gaunt chasm
gloomy hedge
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that looks like you were in DoN tho

gaunt chasm
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oh, thought you were talking about DoN values, not normal values

gloomy hedge
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no, DoN is just a timer

gaunt chasm
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what is the rate of the loss of $

gloomy hedge
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also it's 495 per beer
the actual calculation is each beer is 330ml
and each ml is 1.50$

gloomy hedge
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I'm gonna test right now

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I'll try and win a game in as close to 10 minutes as I can, from the moment I sign to the last winning shot

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and we'll see

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7:30 got me 42k

gaunt chasm
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thats a bit better

gloomy hedge
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(it wasn't a clean victory so I didn't want to wait more than the 10 minutes)

gaunt chasm
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clean victory?

gloomy hedge
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like, it wasn't guaranteed, both 1 charge left, and no idea what the shell was

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10 minutes on the dot

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f(x)= ax+b
f(450) = 42000
f(600) = 30000
600-450=150
30000-42000=-12000
f(x)=-80x+b
f(600)=-80*600+b
30000 = -48000+b
78000 = b

f(t) = 78000 - 80t
I think
with obviously a cap at 70k and 10

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which means for the first 100 seconds the money doesn't go down

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(I think)

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and you would take about 16 minutes to go to 10$

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idk who said it takes 17 minutes, but it does seem to line up

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I'll try another data point at 15 minutes

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my first attempt was a bit dirty

gloomy hedge
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f(600)= 30000
f(900)= 10000
-20000/300 = -200/3
10000 = b -200/3*900
10000+200*300 = b
10000+60000 = b
70000 = b

f(t) = 70000 - 200t/3

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final formula

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every 3 seconds you lose 200$

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with no starting cap

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which means you would fall to 0 in exactly 17:30

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so yeah, here's the definite answer to how score is calculated :
Campaign mode :
max is 70000$, min is 0$
lose 2000$ per death + an extra 2000$ for your first death
lose 495$ per beer can
lose 200$ per cigarette pack

Double or Nothing :
max is 70000$, min is 10$
timer runs from the moment you sign to the winning shot
lose 200$ every 3 seconds
takes 17:30 to hit the minimum

topaz belfry
hollow ermine
lilac swallow
gloomy hedge
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Nice, and all I had was a chrono and an assumption of a linear function

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That means for my 42k attempt I actually took…
42000=70000-200t/3
200t/3=28000
t=420 =7 minutes

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How did I miss count by an entire 30 seconds ?

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Anyway

vestal locust
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well you got 0$ but a free shotgun and briefcase

gentle vapor
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Video coming soon

gaunt chasm
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beat my first second round of double or nothing!

hollow ermine
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Not a highscore but I am proud because I managed to win without taking any damage.

hushed ermine
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Finally

dreamy creek
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I snuck a peak at the globals they're so much worse soulbonk

trim minnow
short halo
trim minnow
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I kept my pc on over night so I could continue in the morning

plucky wyvern
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what

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Assuming perfect play, and a 94% winrate (Overestimate, it’s more like 92-93% at perfect play) the chance is 0.011% or 0.94^147

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you hacked

short halo
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this game isnt solved, how do you know how much winrate perfect play is

trim minnow
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What about the person in first place? How many rounds did they play?

latent bane
short halo
gentle vapor
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Because it's very, very much more likely you hacked

plucky wyvern
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Granted, my records are from prior to the 1.2 update

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So the excel sheet could be outdated? But even if so I wouldn’t assume the difference in winrate to be drastically different. Kissboy and people in his server assumed the optimum winrate is around 91-92%. Due to the Inverter and the Saw nerf, I’ve pushed that up to 94%. Even if you push it up to 97% winrate, which means the dealer wins 1/33 games, which is impossible that it is the case, the winrate jumps to 97^147 or 1%, at perfect play.

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No matter how you spin this, it is Dream luck to be getting a score that high, or 147 consecutive wins, without thousands of hours poured into the game

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Anybody who gives a score this good this early is hacking

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A score in the billion, or 10bn, is believable

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But also needs a few dozen hours of grind

gentle vapor
coarse wasp
trim minnow
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I only took the photos so I could remember what the shells were… I tend to forget

lilac swallow
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if you actually did this then props to you but damn, it looks incredibly suspicious

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the highest i've seen someone definitely get is around 700 mil, iirc a chinese streamer

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i feel like once you get to a billion you should have at least had the impulse to turn on obs or something

gentle vapor
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Indeed

gloomy hedge
# trim minnow #8

possible initial scores
the time you would need to get them
the number of consecutive doublings afterwards :

58880 |  2m 46.8s | 47
29440 | 10m  8.4s | 48
14720 | 13m 49.2s | 49
 7360 | 15m 39.6s | 50
 3680 | 16m 34.8s | 51
 1840 | 17m  2.4s | 52
  920 | 17m 16.2s | 53
  460 | 17m 23.1s | 54
  230 | 17m 26.6s | 55
  115 | 17m 28.3s | 56
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the score isn't impossible to reach, at the very least

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well I would wedger they didn't win in 2 minutes

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the rest is plausible

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although the fact it so cleanly divides into 2 is a bit odd, I'd need to check to scoring code in detail

latent bane
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how do you get score in buckshot roulette, is that the amount of money you earn after winning?

gloomy hedge
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yes

latent bane
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Ive only got 69k, how do people get millions and stuff?

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would they do double or nothing and keep winning?

lilac swallow
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yep

latent bane
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oh wow

gloomy hedge
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don

plucky wyvern
plucky wyvern
gentle vapor
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Don't lie

plucky wyvern
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LOL

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That is a good point

lilac swallow
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to be fair i've gotten to a mil three times and didn't record. but a million is a much more feasible score

plucky wyvern
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Also, as we climb up into the hundreds of millions, we become stressed. This is true for even the most experienced of players. Getting far always amps you up with adrenaline (outside the game). And you always start playing sub-optimally because your heart begins beating too fast and you get a rush. Happens to me when I get past 10mil, happens to people at some score and beyond.

gentle vapor
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For me it's about 10 mil yeah

plucky wyvern
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This means the winrate of our suboptimal play declines, because we’re human, and so the chance of getting to… 82 quadrillion is null

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Maybe Lemmon didn’t hack, but bugged the game, but either ways, the score is invalid as an international legitimate high score

gentle vapor
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Indeed

lilac swallow
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new pb

topaz belfry
plucky wyvern
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I would say it’s more like 9 hours. It took me nearly 2 hours to get 33 rounds done, so I’d estimate 147 rounds to be a 9 hour session

topaz belfry
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likely then

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I wonder how many hours he has on buckshot

gloomy hedge
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well this exact score is possible with a minimum of 48 doubles
a 3 round game is typically 10-15 minutes (let's average at 12)
so it would be 9h 36m non-stop

topaz belfry
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true

plucky wyvern
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Assuming that you don’t turn crazy stressed and have a change in your playing pace by the absurd numbers you’re reaching 😅

topaz belfry
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the real question is how many hours does he have since it would take about 9 hours and he claimed he left his pc on all night

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that's alteast like 16 hours if you actually went to sleep

gloomy hedge
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possible

topaz belfry
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but he likely is gonna dodge that question

lilac swallow
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honestly no matter what he says, unless he provides direct proof i'm not gonna believe him. extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence

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which sucks if he somehow did actually do it

topaz belfry
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yeah

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we've yet to reach 1b

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I think

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so I don't think (no offense) that someone who had to screenshot shells reaches 42 quadrillion or whatever that number was

gloomy hedge
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I mean so far, other than incredible luck, there is no evidence that it's impossible to achieve

lilac swallow
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not impossible certainly

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but highly unlikely

gloomy hedge
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definitely

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do you have the scoring code ?

lilac swallow
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i'll see if i can find it

gloomy hedge
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I have the mathematical formula, but I would need to check the actual implementation

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because it seems the code counts in ms

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or something like that

lilac swallow
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var initial_time = 0
func InitialTimer():
    if (counting): initial_time += get_process_delta_time()

...

func BeginScoreLerp():
    startscore = prevscore
    if (!doubling): 
        double_or_nothing_rounds_beat += 1
        var ten_minutes_seconds = 600
        var ten_minutes_score_loss = 40000
        var score_deduction = initial_time / ten_minutes_seconds * ten_minutes_score_loss    
        endscore = 70000 - int(score_deduction)
        if (endscore < 10): endscore = 10
        prevscore = endscore
        double_or_nothing_score = prevscore
        double_or_nothing_initial_score = prevscore
    else: 
        doubled = true
        endscore = prevscore * 2
        prevscore = endscore
        double_or_nothing_rounds_beat += 1
        double_or_nothing_score = prevscore
    doubling = true```
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(the ... is elided code)

gloomy hedge
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yeah fair

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wth is that

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right so it's hard coded that after 10 minutes you lose 40000$

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that's a weird way of doing it, but it works

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what's very interesting is the fact that the division happens before the multiplication

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which means because it's integer division, there's gonna be precision loss

trim minnow
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Why did my money go into the negatives? Is that somewhere in the code?

lilac swallow
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i'm not super familiar with how numbers are represented in gdscript, but likely an integer overflow

trim minnow
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It went back to positive but I thought it was a bug or smth

gloomy hedge
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that is normally not possible unless you either wait 4 billion years, or you double past 9 quintillion

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so I'm guessing it's the latter

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which means you claim to have won way more than 50 times in a row

lilac swallow
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or winning once with the power of cheat engine on your side

topaz belfry
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oh god it's cheat engine that was used lmao

gloomy hedge
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I wouldn't say cheat engine, because the score is a power of 2

lilac swallow
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could've been a number that was deliberately chosen to look legit

gloomy hedge
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fair

topaz belfry
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waiting for the day someone cheats to get an almost impossible score, records it and uploads it lmao

trim minnow
lilac swallow
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why wouldn't it? doesn't seem to be any cheat detection

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i highly doubt like a hundred people have all gotten such ridiculous scores

topaz belfry
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yeah I've played dl for years and it's festered with cheaters, there's no chance you got that score legit dude

gloomy hedge
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ok so godot is a bit smarter with integer division than I thought

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but

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beause the delta time is in second

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none of the answers are legit

lilac swallow
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i thought the delta time was a float

gloomy hedge
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is it ?

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oooh fuck

trim minnow
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I’ll record the next one I do

gloomy hedge
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yeah the score deduction gets parsed as a int

lilac swallow
gloomy hedge
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those numbers look really suspicious tho

lilac swallow
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honestly 29440 seems perfectly reasonable

topaz belfry
topaz belfry
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do you just hate them

gloomy hedge
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highly composite

topaz belfry
# trim minnow Wdym?

unless you somehow prove us wrong you did not get that score legit so you are not gonna make a video lol

lilac swallow
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i'm not particularly concerned about the initial number. i don't see how it being highly composite shows anything

gloomy hedge
lilac swallow
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there are a lot of multiples of 256

gloomy hedge
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well

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I suppose it is impossible to know the real original score since they admitted to overflowing

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so that means the real original score is most likely some overflowed version of the 115 score

plucky wyvern
lilac swallow
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agree

plucky wyvern
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AKA anything over the 1bn mark must be recorded and uploaded to be counted as legit

gloomy hedge
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interestingly enough, if you doubled your score 64 times, you would get 0

lilac swallow
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assert dominance by murdering the dealer for 3 years then taking home an empty briefcase

topaz belfry
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lmao

gloomy hedge
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no matter what the innitial score is, too

lilac swallow
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does the score only have 64-bit integer precision?

gloomy hedge
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because in binary multiplying by 2 just means adding a 0 at the end
and integers are stored in 64 bits
so after 64 doublings, you flush out your entire score

gloomy hedge
lilac swallow
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makes sense

gloomy hedge
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godot integers are signed 64 bits

lilac swallow
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i can't believe mike didn't expect us to win double or nothing 500 times in a row

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smh

gloomy hedge
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the minimum number of doubling to start overflowing is actually 48, if you start with a score >= 65536

placid turtle
hollow ermine
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My highscore of a single DON round.

gloomy hedge
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uh

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4m 11s

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that's fast

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7 ejected shells and 330ml of beer, that means three 2 charge rounds with 100% hit rate and one beer drank

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it's plausible

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and incredibly lucky

lilac swallow
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this is my personal best. this was before handsaws weren't given as the first items of 2 health rounds. wouldn't be surprised if this were literally impossible now, i got ridiculously lucky

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fun fact: i ended up getting my first million with this initial score

plucky wyvern
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Kinda sucks that they nerfed the initial score. Yes I know it’s reworked, but the rework is constructed so the average range will be around 50k or less, which on 1.1, it was around 60k on average with a range of 50-70k. I’d love for it to get re-buffed, by giving a cool-down time of like 5 minutes before the timer detracting starts

spice moss
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Not that impressive but I'm proud of

gentle vapor
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Honestly not bad

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Just a few more rounds and that's a million

short halo
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I AM FUCKING RICH!!!!!!

lilac swallow
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MONEY

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DOLLAR

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how long did this take

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also congrats on your presumed world record

lament edge
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YOU ARE A LEGEND

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How many hours did this take

short halo
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2h 20min

lilac swallow
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a lot shorter than i expected actually

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were you speedrunning

lament edge
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Not bad !

gentle vapor
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So this time is about in that ballpark

lilac swallow
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i guess i just play slow then, lol

short halo
noble edge
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come on, make that more!!

plucky wyvern
topaz belfry
hollow ermine
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wait can someone explain to me the time duration effecting the high scores/money you get in double or nothing?

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cause i don't get it and would like to understand

gentle vapor
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Starting from 70k

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Timer starts after finishing signing the waiver

iron sedge
hollow ermine
gloomy hedge
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that's the exact calculation the code uses

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well, if you include the caps

gloomy hedge
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top 41k wouhou XD

rancid copper
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I got fucked over so hard with the rng I couldn't make to the second round most of the time

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2 lives 2 blanks first 2 were blanks and dealer had cuffs

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Literally unwinnable

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2 health btw

topaz belfry
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here's how to win in that scenario

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you see

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there's an even number of bullets

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when that happens, always shoot yourself because it's likely a blank

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then if it is shoot yourself again

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because it's just smart

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bam

gentle vapor
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How

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If the dealer getting the gun is so dangerous, make sure to play like so

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That can mean shooting yourself instead

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Especially if you have cigarettes

rancid copper
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I cuffed him ans shot 2 blanks

gentle vapor
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Poor choice

rancid copper
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He cuffed me with the last to live rounds

gentle vapor
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So you should never have let him have the gun with both lives

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Far better to have shot yourself at least once

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Even if it turned out to be live

rancid copper
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Shooting yourself is cringe

gentle vapor
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Too bad

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Get some strategy before complaining

rancid copper
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My strategy is better than yours

gentle vapor
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You lost

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So

rancid copper
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Yeah it's rng

timber matrix
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my today's high-score

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my previous one was like 143k

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about the name... yeah too much Breaking Bad

lilac swallow
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when i win it's skill. when i lose it's rng. - every single video game player to ever live

rancid copper
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You forgot the giga chad image

short halo
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i made several huge misplays in my high score run and only won from good RNG

plucky wyvern
lavish pivot
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Best score as of now

plucky wyvern
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Nice job

dawn saddle
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silly me said a third round in double or nothing wouldn't hurt...

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should've used the inverter

old nimbus
hallow whale
nimble kiln
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i only did 1.3m like in my third DoN, after that lost it

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at least i got achievement.

dawn saddle
#

it is what it is

lavish pivot
#

Double or nothing 10$

native narwhal
#

Lol

spice moss
#

New Highschore

trim musk
#

time to go lose a mill now

native narwhal
trim musk
hollow ermine
gloomy hedge
hearty spoke
#

Is money still lost after the first round in DoN?

lilac swallow
#

strictly doubled

hearty spoke
#

Cool

#

Randomly I think I might get 1m with a 10 dollar start

#

I wanna try

lilac swallow
#

that would take 17 doubles. if you started with 30k and did that you would earn 3.9 billion dollars

hearty spoke
#

I see

torpid bobcat
#

Why is it ok?

lavish pivot
bronze wagon
light turtle
iron sedge
#

honk-2-win

ripe kiln
coarse wasp
#

This suitcase is worth 10$ Dealercursedokay

#

Who wants to buy an ice cream with money stained by blood?

lilac swallow
#

me me me me me me me!!!!

coarse wasp
#

🍨 there

lilac swallow
#

yay!!!

#

tastes like moral ambiguity!

coarse wasp
#

And a little bit of gunpowder as well!

lilac swallow
#

yim yum

coarse wasp
#

Yummy

hollow ermine
gloomy hedge
#

On campaign mode you get the 70k no matter what, you just pay hospital bills

#

So what justifies money being constantly drained in DoN ?

coarse wasp
#

Skill issues Dealercursedokay

rose iron
lavish pivot
# rose iron how

Drank a lot of beer, smoked a lot of cigs and the rounds took forever

gentle vapor
#

And time is money dog

#

Even just a few minutes is worth tens of thousands buddy

cobalt geyser
#

So you just speedrun the first Stage and the rest you can take as much time as you need since it's just gonna be doubled from here on out

gloomy hedge
cobalt geyser
#

Ah gotcha, mb

gloomy hedge
#

becaause in he code the variables have names that explain the lore of why you lose money

#

when you die, you up your "doors kicked" number, and you lose money because of "knee replacement surgery"

lilac swallow
#

every minute you spend is a minute that could be used to harvest another soul

lavish pivot
lilac swallow
#

you don't lose money for using items in double or nothing

#

it's only based on time

trim musk
#

i wanted to get the lose 1mill achievement but it just kept on going and my gf wouldnt stop gloating over her higher score than me so here we go

gentle vapor
#

10 million.

#

Great job, genuinely

trim musk
#

mucho gracias Dealercursedokay

sinful escarp
#

he has a gf and 10 million in BR??? Dealercursedokay

trim musk
#

shes really enjoying the game too, but she had to be taken down

#

cant wait for mulitiplayer

hearty spoke
#

That's great gjj

sinful escarp
#

no idea how i missed that, crazy cracked

short halo
#

fr that guy is a real gamer

hollow ermine
#

Number #76 on the leaderboard.

#

I'm genuinely proud of myself for killing that god forsaken dealer so many times.

#

Then I decided I should go.

#

I might go for number one soon, but who knows, Idk if I could spend all my time trying to do that.

#

This is what 18 digits of money?

#

So 2.4 quintillion?

#

I just outsmart the dealer.

#

I got lucky that's all, I got good rng so that's a result.

#

I had to use a lot of items to get that far.

#

And a lot of time was spent.

#

I didn't keep track of how long it took unfortunately.

#

And because of my crappy pc I couldn't really play all too good but I did it anyways.

#

I just pushed myself to the limits.

#

Yep.

#

I'm also loving the feel of the new items.

#

I used so many of the adrenalines.

#

Taking items from the dealer was great.

#

Should I go to first place? Should I try?

short halo
#

ok record urself doing it 👍

hollow ermine
#

Or I could get in the top 10, turns out I was really close, I just needed to get one or two more digits of money.

#

Also, I can't do that.

#

Recording myself while playing would break my pc.

#

Considering I can't even play in windowed mode either.

#

Every time I do it just crashes for me. 😔

#

They need to fix that if it's a bug for a lot of other players.

#

I usually play all my games in windowed mode or I bump down the graphics a little bit but I had to play in fullscreen with lag the whole time.

#

Also it's a good idea to write down or change the number of how many blanks and lives are in the chamber.

#

If you don't have a good memory of it I mean.

#

It's the best cheat you could have.

#

That doesn't get you shamed at least lol.

short halo
#

bait used to be believable

hollow ermine
#

Well I'm as dumb as they come.

#

And also I just use my phone.

#

I write it like this if there were 4 blanks in the shotgun with 4 lives I'd just to this.

4 Lives 4 Blanks
3 Lives 4 Blanks.

#

I change the number next to which bullet was fired.

#

You don't need paper when you erase the number and put a new one in.

#

So I do that and it's easier for me to know!

#

I use everything to my advantage, thus me getting number 76 in the leaderboard.

hearty spoke
#

Would the shell display mod be acceptable for going to a really high score as long as there is proof after that no other mods are on

#

Or before ig

gentle vapor
#

I wouldn't be against it

#

But admittedly it is providing an advantage of allowing the player to not have to count shells and thereby focus on other aspects of the game

#

Even if the information is always obtainable by normal means, it's an advantage not in vanilla, and that could irk some people

trim musk
#

i feel it should be allowed, its a convenience more than anything

#

nothing would be stopping you from writing the counts down on a piece of paper

#

this just simplifies and quickens that process

#

that being said, as someone with terrible short term memory, counting the shells myself is genuinely helping me get better at doing so lol

short halo
gentle vapor
#

I'm aware

#

I'm just bringing up potential reasons why it could be viewed as a negative

lilac swallow
#

since it doesn't fundamentally change the game i think it's acceptable

#

i used to play hearthstone a lot, and nearly all the pros used a program called hearthstone deck tracker that basically kept track of everything that happened during a game and showed exactly what cards remained in your deck. absolutely gives an advantage but it's all info you could scribble down

hearty spoke
#

I remember in Ljovynns run, they used an itch site that allows you to keep track of shells

#

It's just that without having to press buttons tbf

gloomy hedge
#

because I'm not recodring every single attempt lol

#

that's way too much footage of me dying on the 2nd doubling

lilac swallow
#

if you get past billions you gotta at least record past 1 bil

#

it's a ridiculous score

gloomy hedge
#

fair enough

gloomy hedge
#

so yeah it's starting to get rare after that

#

knowing that 90% is the level you need to hit 1M about half the time

#

I guess 87% is more accurate

#

anyway

short halo
#

do you mean gauntlet or round winrate

#

anyway SWEETSCXT's run is probably over a billion times harder than a billion. Not only would you have to win 129 rounds in a row (billion is 48 rounds), that specific score requires a 55839 score after the first gauntlet. idk how possible that is after the update where you cant get handsaws at 2 charges

gloomy hedge
#

round would be a bit too hard to keep track because the numbers would get close to 99 real quick

lilac swallow
#

yeah, definitely sus. my best absolutely ridiculous first gauntlet was 57029, which i only got because i had 2 health rounds and handsaws + good items every single time

#

this was before the update of course

gloomy hedge
#

I did get a pretty lucky 51k first gauntlet
that was my highest I think

gloomy hedge
#

idk if it's possible

#

so to achieve this score reasonably they would need :
a first gauntlet that lasts only 3:30
the skill to hit the million half the time
and even then they'd have 0.25% chance of hitting it

gentle vapor
#

Yeah, I don't believe runs over a billion that aren't recorded

gentle vapor
#

Best possible luck is to get all 2-health rounds, get handcuffs, and shoot two lives in a row

#

Considering people's luck to get better than that via handsaw 2-health rounds pre-update and they barely reached that score, I'm significantly more inclined to not believe them

gentle vapor
#

It's not a huge ask to record a run

gloomy hedge
#

what I'm saying is deleting that much footage is a chore

gentle vapor
#

It's not

#

It's going into your video folder, click the footage, and press a single key on your keyboard

#

That cannot be an excuse to not record a high score run, at the very least

gloomy hedge
#

like I said, if I get to a billion I'll record

gloomy hedge
#

I made a little code to judge scores a bit faster

trim musk
#

until they add a record feature directly to steam i aint doin that

hollow ermine
#

I FINALLY GOT 1 MILLION what a journey its been i know i have like 2 achievements left but MAN it felt rewarding and cool honestly the two million achievements show the true charm and power and horror of this game also spent like 50 hours on this achievement but the knowledge and freeflow nature of me doing it helped

warped spoke
#

FUCKING FINALLY

jolly dome
#

Good work!!

kindred python
topaz belfry
#

same

trim musk
#

its funny how often the achievements want you to sabotage yourself

nimble kiln
#

i fucking love and hate that side of gambling

#

I WAS GOING TO GET 2.6M...

#

that close

#

and gone

#

my stupid ass

hollow ermine
hollow ermine
# nimble kiln my stupid ass

Damn i feel so sorry for you its like irl gambling lol (||just without the losing real life money and life as well||)

rocky abyss
vital notch
fossil light
#

they give me 10 bucks

trim musk
#

deserved

zenith slate
#

Oh my god I did it. I successfully doubled my earnings in Double or Nothing

#

I never beated six rounds before

warped spoke
#

Let’s go!!

zenith slate
#

Also there is no way I can earn 1000k

#

That's impossible

#

Like really. How many of yall here earned 1000k?

warped spoke
#

I did like two or three days ago, I fucking yelled in victory in my room I tried so many times

zenith slate
#

I lost hope and just sliced off the barrel and shoot him thinking that it could be a blank

#

I lost hope

#

But then the RNG gods blessed me and it was a live

#

I had to take the money

warped spoke
#

I thought I was gonna die like 5 times through that run and the last 3 game rounds were just tense omfg
It got to one charge each every single time and it was terrifying gjfbgj

warped spoke
plucky wyvern
#

If you get fast at quick stats and know the dealer’s behaviour if doesn’t take long

#

Like it takes 2 hours to get a 1mil run

#

Maybe 3 hours if you’re unlucky slow or unskilled

#

You do have to grind to get good unless you got the natural brain to play this silly game

gentle vapor
#

You absolutely need to know the Dealer's AI and how best to turn the odds as much in your favor as you can

#

It's a game of a lot of skill to minimize the luck

short halo
lilac swallow
#

since i haven't seen any other legit claims of a billion i assume ljovynn is the world record holder rn

#

also i am part of the 1 mil club. actually the 2 mil club [flexes massive biceps]

quiet radish
#

im a newbie

zenith slate
#

And I am actually shocked that some people got the achievement

#

Great job all of you

main harness
gentle vapor
fallen trail
#

remember: KEEP GAMBLING

somber tinsel
#

the real prize here was the 2.64 liters of beer

#

and it was free aswell

opaque kiln
#

So I finally finished double or nothing, and all I got was 10$ lmao

somber tinsel
drifting condor
#

Or it isn’t in American dollars

severe forum
#

OMG

#

DHASFYHAEFAWFAEF

trim musk
#

got a 10mil game too

#

i think the hardest achievement was using every single item in one turn

polar river
#

Lucky af

brave carbon
#

Finally beat my 10 mil score

brave carbon
trim musk
#

yea

strange fox
#

Did this about a week ago aiming for top 1000 next

upper zenith
#

hey guys how do i get to top 10

#

i can get there soon i hope

#

johnn is himm is me

lilac swallow
#

it's pretty amazing that you won 44 gauntlets in a row

#

such a shame you didn't record it

upper zenith
#

mb

#

i can do another game if you want

#

i can see if i can getr there again

upper zenith
lilac swallow
#

ok but you better get 7 quintillion this time

upper zenith
#

lol

#

bet that

plucky wyvern
#

dawg

#

you aren’t serious

upper zenith
#

wym

smoky cosmos
#

please sign the waiver

upper zenith
#

ALRIGHT

zealous parrot
#

Got it today, since I didnt have the 1mm achivement, I cashed out. But think I should've tried do double it, then, if lost I'd at least get the "Know When to Stop" achievement.

#

Hey guys, why one of the screenshots turned out to have the total cash line a little to the left?

#

My screen is much darker than westernstar's...

lilac swallow
#

you probably caught it when the cash line was animating in

zealous parrot
#

I will try to configure it.

lilac swallow
#

also i think there are points in the end animation where it becomes brighter

zealous parrot
#

Oh, thanks.

#

Right, I took the shot really fast, afraid it would go away. lol

steady magnet
dusky citrus
#

You can take a screenshot at different times either during the text animation or after. It's going to look minutely different due to this

#

But there's not an issue so dw! Dealerbytonytheclock987

zealous parrot
#

Ty tinyFox.

midnight apex
#

My first 1mil run Squid_Happy5 (I accidentally clicked to double again in my excitement but I still won)

fathom dove
#

so any officail double or nothing HS board?

fathom dove
#

DAMN

#

Without looking at the Code?

#

I would have loved to watch that run

fathom dove
#

Damn ... your heart must have been racing (watched a few chunks + the end)

#

I wish I had 2 and a half hours to watch it

short halo
#

🥸

gentle vapor
plucky wyvern
#

I got 70mil on 1.1 update. I’ve barely played in 1.2, cuz exams 😭 Still can’t play till end of June

dusky citrus
severe totem
#

We be speedrunning with this one

brave carbon
hidden umbra
#

I once got a 953K score

#

couldnt beat that anymore

zealous parrot
#

😭

#

u can do it, Vental.

#

I just regret not having tried to double 1 more time. Even if lost, would be nice to get that losing achievement.

#

good luck, Vental.

plucky wyvern
brave carbon
#

What's reshade?

#

Oh right xd, I took the pic with my phone rather than a screenshot

#

Laziness

latent bane
#

Cool

undone iron
rugged cedar
drowsy summit
#

hey is anything gonna be done for the hacker scores?

tame mason
hollow ermine
#

Finally, after days, and days, and days, and more more days, finally, i completed all the achievements with taking $11M in the game, absolute cinema

short halo
#

another H? 🤝

hollow ermine
#

Putting random letters to save time to play, you know

lilac swallow
#

i always do z because it's the first letter of my irl name

#

(zach)

#

(i've doxxed myself now, enjoy selling my details on the dark web)

plucky wyvern
#

Just hope Mike has a good plan tho

still granite
#

probably the easiest way is to record demos for high scores to validate

#

but it's still penetrable

tame mason
#

yeah, true worn_out

charred harbor
hollow ermine
#

Where can I risk my life for 20 bucks?

#

🤑

broken skiff
hollow ermine
#

XDDDDD

plucky wyvern
#

😭

fleet saddle
#

I uh, i think i did something wrong

lilac swallow
brave carbon
#

Next stop, the billion xd

lilac swallow
#

damn!!!

#

billion is definitely achievable if you can hit 100 mil. get that world record

marble mauve
hollow ermine
#

bro fr did allat for 10 dollars 😭

marble mauve
#

the bag is full with monopoly money and they worth 10 dollars idk

hollow ermine
hollow ermine
#

Gato 🐱

lean rampart
sullen finch
regal lichen
lean rampart
gray heath
regal lichen
wooden mist
# gray heath

This is the 1% who didnt quit before they made it big

still granite
#

3 matches beaten

#

lmao get owned sosiska killer

inland canyon
hollow ermine
hollow ermine
haughty token
haughty token
#

and remember, real gamblers never quit

short halo
#

why did you quit that run then Dealerbytonytheclock987

haughty token
#

dw the 10 million run is cooking

bitter gale
#

By the way that is a lot of beer to be drinking for that run

haughty token
#

that was on purpose =)

#

german run

#

ok i think the phone just gave me a wrong prediction

gray heath
haughty token
#

i have 200 hours in isaac so i am more of a gambler than you are

#

...unless you have more?

#

haha

gray heath
#

Save your tears in multiplayer

haughty token
#

we will see whos gonna outgamble the opponent

gray heath
#

I realize something right now. Your first 3 rounds must be end very fast cause you got much more than 50k in end of the 3rd round. That's why our "rounds beat" stats same. Dont get cocky :D

proud field
#

No one can Outpizza the hut

haughty token
#

cope lol

#

/s

bitter gale
#

mind you, this is only one beer and also my first time playing the game

#

also how do y'all send screenshots like that (I'm on fullscreen)

#

when I try to open ShareX to take a screenshot, the game goes back to main menu

haughty token
#

flameshot works on windows afaik

gray heath
#

Steam default screenshot

willow sentinel
#

Also u can try Win+Shift+S

lilac swallow
#

yeah i always do win+shift+s

#

though i don't play on fullscreen

still granite
#

Win+Shift+S doesn't really work for fullscreen buckshot roulette

reef meteor
#

can sadly confirm win shift s just restarts the game

#

was really hhoping to show off my $10 run

gray heath
#

Congrats

hollow ermine
#

BEYONC!

hollow ermine
lean rampart
haughty token
#

gamble harder

rose star
hollow ermine
velvet salmon
#

first mil earned

safe path
#

not a high score, but my 3rd full house which is bananas cause its the one acheivement i thought was impossible lol

honest trench
#

question, how is score influenced? Ive had some runs where before I double I'm at ~50k and others where im at $10

#

saves a few double ups for the million if i could consistently hit the upper bounds

midnight apex
#

You have to be fast, basically

#

The first set of 3 rounds starts at 70k and you lose about $200 every 3 seconds that pass

#

Then it jsut doubles from there

#

10 minutes is 40k lost iirc

honest trench
#

word ty

safe path
# honest trench question, how is score influenced? Ive had some runs where before I double I'm a...

story mode you start at $0 and can win a max of $70,000 if you never die, drink no beers, and smoke no cigs,

Cigarette pack -         $220
Beer           -         $495
First player death -     $4,000
Every subsequent Death - $2,000

weirdly the game calculates the total cash to start at $70,000, then it subtracts 200 x cigs smoked, then subtracts 1.5 x mL of beer, then if more than 2 doors were kicked, it subtracts 1000 x doors kicked, which includes the 2 doors at the start, so its like a 2k buy-in lol

double or nothing mode you start off with $70k at the start of the first round, but you lose $40k every 10 mins or $200 every 3 seconds however you wanna look at it

mellow herald
#

Also how do you kick more than two doors

midnight apex
mellow herald
#

Neat

safe path
#

like its hard to spot a handsaw on the other side of the table with 2 charges left and not go for the cigs

#

cause if you dont its over anyhow ect

#

my last run was near perfect, smoked 1 cig

thin pond
#

also it's really funny for how it's written for story mode

sand nova
#

oh huh, so drinking beer is really discouraged considering it plays into two categories thatll extract points

inland canyon
#

No it doesn't

#

The first instance of dui_fine is the definition, and the second is the actual subtraction

still granite
#

did someone have an a 0$ run btw?

paper pasture
#

Finally!

#

I'm irritable, my hands are shaky, but it's done!

mellow herald
paper pasture
sand nova
paper pasture
#

I should do a playthrough on Survival difficulty with 6 slots someday.

sand nova
#

also damn you can play with more slots now? i had no clue

paper pasture
#

There is an option with 8 slots for everything; and so called Revised option, with 2 additional slots for camera and flashlight, and 6 slots for everything else.

sand nova
#

huh! neat

safe path
#

perfect score in story mode woo

paper pasture
#

gg

dusky citrus
#

FoxuOK naisuuu

midnight apex
#

I just had the least locked-in game of Buckshot Ive ever had
Anyways I did the 70k challenge it took 3 tries

safe path
#

lol

midnight apex
#

lol
Honeslty the hardest part for me was getting out of the no items round

#

Then we both just kepts getting handsaws and cuffs nonstop 😭

bold gale
#

Basically a flawless main story

#

Aw MAN the screenshot didnt come through. It was a 69,010

safe path
#

i noticed this games weird with ctrl+Prnt Screen, it seems to take a snapshot of whatever you were doing like a minute before you took it, atleast for me, i use the snip and sketch tool on windows for most screengrabs anyhow

hollow ermine
#

idk how long the game was but this is from launch

scarlet dock
#

got 70k in first round of double or nothing

midnight apex
#

Damn
Speedy

lilac swallow
#

in theory that would be 0 seconds

#

more likely is that you ran into a bug, i've seen other people here get 70k in double or nothing

short halo
#

oh wow

#

now im curious about that bug

ancient pumice
hearty spoke
#

has anyone got 1m on smarter dealer since it's update?

short halo
#

it has an update?

hearty spoke
#

well the most recent

#

like where the 4 items were added

warped spoke
#

yes

hearty spoke
#

it took me so long 😭

warped spoke
#

me too pal hjkfs

#

i still need to do the 1M and lose it

short halo
atomic osprey
hollow ermine
atomic osprey
mellow herald
#

finally

rustic jolt
#

Good stuff!!

hollow ermine
mellow herald
hollow ermine
#

but well

#

I'll get it sometime

#

but 1 million is insane

#

how many matches?

midnight apex
#

18 or 21 iirc depending on how fast you are in the first 3 rounds

mellow herald
hollow ermine
#

the amount of money you receive differs per match I saw

mellow herald
#

near the end i was down to one health and the dealer aimed at me with 50/50 odds but it was a blank

hollow ermine
#

I once got 13k and 38k in another

mellow herald
#

so god had my back

hollow ermine
#

it happened to me too except I used a polarizer and shot him

#

blank

mellow herald
hollow ermine
#

damn

mellow herald
#

yeah

hollow ermine
#

mike knows

mellow herald
#

other items dont affect the score tho

hollow ermine
#

don't drink n' smoke

midnight apex
#

Double or Nothing scoring works on a timer

mellow herald
#

nah you should drink and smoke but only if its a life or death situation

hollow ermine
midnight apex
#

It starts at 70k then reduces by 200 every 3 seconds, capping at 10 points in 17 minutes iirc

hollow ermine
#

going out with a bang

mellow herald
#

newports can very easily save your life

hollow ermine
#

so the maximum amount of money is 70k

#

and how do ppl in the scoreboards score negative digits

#

or even trillions

mellow herald
short halo
#

i think you would need more than luck to finish 3 rounds in less than 1/60th of a second

midnight apex
hollow ermine
#

very easy

hollow ermine
mellow herald
midnight apex
#

Its possible to integer overflow into a negative but that would rwquire raising the score past the largest number the game can handle storing

mellow herald
#

whats the highest number

hollow ermine
#

still can't get over the fact that 2024 was 11 years ago, and we still don't have multiplayer buckshot roulette

mellow herald
#

multiplayer finna be real soon i can smell it

hollow ermine
#

didn't the dude say it was gonna come out by the end times of 2024

#

would be really nice to have it by christmas

#

idk

mellow herald
#

he meant the end times when the messiah returns to earth

hollow ermine
mellow herald
#

actually when the three messiah's return cause they all worship the same god

hollow ermine
#

right

#

whats the waiver that has GOD in it

#

does BR have lore

mellow herald
#

other than god being dead not really

hollow ermine
#

there was this BR arg video I saw earlier this morning

midnight apex
#

The ARG seems to have some lore built in it but no progress has been made in 2 months

hollow ermine
#

you can email volta electronics and they give you a code of some sort

midnight apex
#

Yea they solved that

#

Found a poem and a website with a password login and weve been stuck in the passwors for 2 months

safe path
# hollow ermine so the maximum amount of money is 70k

story mode you start at $0 and can win a max of $70,000 if you never die, drink no beers, and smoke no cigs,
Story Mode Costs
Cigarette pack - $220
Beer - $495
First player death - $4,000
Every subsequent Death - $2,000

weirdly the game calculates the total cash to start at $70,000, then it subtracts 200 x cigs smoked, then subtracts 1.5 x mL of beer, then if more than 2 doors were kicked, it subtracts 1000 x doors kicked, which includes the 2 doors at the start, so its like a 2k buy-in, the funniest part is the actual code, the cigarettes are called "cancer_bills" the beer is called "dui_fine" and the door kicks are called "new_leg_bones_price" lol

double or nothing mode you start off with $70k at the start of the first round, but you lose $40k every 10 mins or $200 every 3 seconds however you wanna look at it, after 17 minutes and some odd seconds it hits $10 which is the lowest you can go

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pseudo garnet
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has anyone ever thought of making a seperate leaderboard for whoever can drink the most beer? ive been having a competition of that with my friends and it's tons of fun, one of my buddies managed to drink 2 gallons before cashing out of double or nothing mode

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(that's 7.5K ML)

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we also had a story mode contest to see who could drink the most without kicking more than 2 doors, i managed to get 1000 mL there lol

robust raven
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The thought of it being just beer sounds too good though, considering the effectiveness of the item and how it would honestly pose a good challenge for how it skips a round putting you at a potential advantage or disadvantage.

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you just gave me a great idea for an item(s),

a shot glass - the item should look like an empty upside down shot glass and when you use it you flip it over fill it from a bottle of brown/black liquor you throw it back and bang the shot glass on the table twice and smash it

but i cant decide if it should add a live or random shell or more humorously you take the shot smash the glass then shake the shot gun up and down a few times and it sounds like pennies in a tin can and randomizes the order of the shells

robust raven
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I like both ideas, so I can see why you’re thinking which path to take. Randomizing the order sounds pretty interesting. I’m not sure how practical the two ideas are but I quite like them.

lilac swallow
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i will be the drunkest in the WORLD

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pseudo garnet
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say wasnt there a manual high score leaderboard someone was making before 1.2 dropped?

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i looked though another server with my friends and found a few screenshots i had but no high score @hollow ermine

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full house twice in one night

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perfect game

hollow ermine
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gg dude

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the doctor lol

hollow ermine
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Did you get all the achievements in steam?

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close ups of the dealer showing my friend that hes like an actual entity in the game not like just a series of animations

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i just wouldn NOT get the right items, then a few times i had them and needed them or forgot to save one for the others ect lol

hollow ermine
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i like to play at the end of the night when im all burnt out and half asleep or drunk lol

hollow ermine
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Hope Mike can release the multiplayer update soon 🔥🔥🔥

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jump ya to links for it if you wanted to check it out

hollow ermine
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Damn, did it really works?

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yeah works well

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you just run the exe and it forks your game so it dosent effect your regular version too, then you drop the zip folder for multiplayer into the mods folder the exe creates in your documents folder named buckshot roulette, then use the new shortcut it made called buckshot roulette BRML and when it starts go on the computer in the bathroom, make a username, and youre good to go

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its just that you wont see other people unless their in the bathroom too lol, but then you just invite one another and thats it