│nightclub

[umbral spear]

not english

[hybrid wolf]

no no I'm making a pun

[scenic wing]

oh my god !!!🤣 wrong server !

[worldly hearth]

Rookie mistake. Everyone point and laugh

[winter geode]

getting over it?

[hybrid wolf]

wholesome is the correct word
I'm saying it's holesome
because if you play buckshot you will get holes in your body

[scenic wing]

peaks of yore

[umbral spear]

there is already

[hybrid wolf]

je suppose

[winter geode]

ohhh

[hybrid wolf]

yeah that's what I though as well but I forgot the name

[opal shale]

the subtitle at the top says everything

[umbral spear]

so real

guys hear me out

if me and my friends would made a buckshot roulette fnf mod

would yall play it?

[leaden ruin]

the

[winter geode]

to be honest

no

cause i dont play fnf

[bronze olive]

I don't play fnf but I'm sure others do

[regal kernel]

Sure

[bronze olive]

Hewwo

[hybrid wolf]

I might have a problem

[carmine flame]

bro got 115 hours but not all achievements 😭

[hybrid wolf]

I'm missing the 1M related ones

I play a lot, doesn't mean I'm great

why do you think I built a bot ? lmao

[carmine flame]

aw unlucky 😭

[hybrid wolf]

admittedly, a lot of those hours are me forgetting to close the game while coding the bot

[carmine flame]

oh

[hybrid wolf]

and then leaving it on during the night

because I'm doing trial runs, and then I find a bug, I try to fix it

it's currently a bit over 1200 lines of code

I basically have to simulate the entire item behaviours

and I'm planning on (eventually) adding the actual Dealer AI
maybe
if I find the strength

it's actually not that bad, just messy

[opal shale]

I only got 8 out of 16 achievements

and like 3 hours of gameplay

I'm a noob compared to most of y'all. 😔

[hybrid wolf]

they say real pros use 1 letter names to get in the game quicker
I say real pros cut the music and put their own silly playlist in the background

[carmine flame]

i mean its only 3 hours- it took me like 18 to get all of them

[opal shale]

The game though. Can make me genuinely happy. Because of my strategies that, to my surprise, they work.

[opal shale]

I tried to get to the double or nothing second win, but I failed at double or nothing second run round 2 :(

I still need to die on 💀 round in normal mod

and 1 million score...

and then the hidden achievements, I don't know

[sour tulip]

But the music is helpful

[hybrid wolf]

is it ?

[carmine flame]

it helps you tell which round it is

if you forgot

[sour tulip]

It can be hard at times to remember which round it is

[hybrid wolf]

uh

is that really a thing ?

[carmine flame]

also it sounds good

yeah the soundtrack changes every round

[sour tulip]

And the music can tell you whether or not it's Round 3

Which is the only important round because you need to remember to keep items to transfer to the next Double Or Nothing

[hybrid wolf]

I never noticed

[sour tulip]

And waste pills

[bronze olive]

Round 2 has the best music

Before every load my beloved

[manic wyvern]

Me when I get the dealer down to one hp in the third round and the sad music starts playing

Trying to make me feel bad

[hybrid wolf]

my advice to you :
actually maybe keep some pills between rounds
because since they're from a previous loadout, if applicable, the dealer will try to steal them first

[hybrid wolf]

.

even if you have cigs, he will try the pills first

he only checks if he has cigs

[sour tulip]

Oh absolutely

I keep pills on the table if he has adrenaline every time

[hybrid wolf]

but I mean

even when starting a new 3 rounds

if you can keep 1 or 2 without reducing your chances of getting useful items, it's a good idea

[sour tulip]

Indeed

[cobalt epoch]

i need 100% buckshot roulette soon

[sour tulip]

It's just the most ideal item to get rid of specifically between rounds if you want to get rid of something

[cobalt epoch]

or i will DIE

[lofty wharf]

real

[lofty wharf]

nah that gotta depend on spawn order or something

i have definitely seen him take my smokes instead of pills, when over 1 hp

[manic wyvern]

Smoke all your cigs and steal his so he can’t have any

[umbral spear]

How much money yall got?
I got 3.4 million

[hybrid wolf]

like I said
if you keep pills from round 3 down to round 1
he will use the pills first

[umbral spear]

Holy shit i drank 30 liters of beer

i definetly should drive

[umbral spear]

1.2 billion?

nice

[lofty wharf]

these stats only account for runs where u dont die right?

[hybrid wolf]

I think so yes

[umbral spear]

i think so

[hybrid wolf]

126 rounds beat, I would assume you won more than that

[lofty wharf]

yea. i have 50 hours playtime

[opal shale]

meh...

wait more of them doesnt count if you die

okay

[bronze olive]

Id have more time played i could FUCKIN PAUSE OR SAVE

[umbral spear]

when game gives you items i count that as pause

[sonic crown]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1210524750858952756/1232775317517631499/image0.gif

[lofty wharf]

literally go afk at any time for pause

exit and save would be nice, my average run is over an hour

[hybrid wolf]

not during the first game tho

that's a bad idea

otherwise, just leave the game open, and make sure it doesn't crash

[lofty wharf]

pausing could also be nice if you want to do other things on the computer so you dont hear the music. and i guess it could save a tiny bit of energy

[worthy aspen]

I think there would be an exploit where you copy the save file and after you die you just paste it into the game

[lofty wharf]

autosave

[bronze olive]

I know ...I just feel super locked in hehe

[worthy aspen]

There would still be a save file somewhere

[plain mirage]

You can also just mute BsR in your volume mixer

[winter geode]

yeah a pause menu would be very nice

[tawdry otter]

Wonder if it opens up savescumming, (more) leaderboard exploits, if not at least another way to introduce fake speedruns 🤔

[lofty wharf]

leaderboards is already a massive joke so would it rly be that much of an issue to let people save

[hybrid wolf]

what even are the cheating methods ?

is it just straight up changing the numbers in the code ?

[sudden citrus]

The dealer is always cheating. J/K

[leaden ruin]

he is

he kills me

[winter geode]

People before dealer AI update: haha you're stupid!
People after dealer AI update: THIS IS UNFAIR

[leaden ruin]

true

[winter geode]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-clubnika-tartarus-engine-unsorted-horror-horror-buckshot-roulette-gif-12129942876258928108

Ruh roh

[winter geode]

wait the dealers ai is gonna get updated?

[winter geode]

It GOT updated lmao

[winter geode]

Don't remind me...

[winter geode]

oh shit i had no idea

so i cant rely on the dealer being a dumbass anymore?

Yes

😔 🚬

[frail crane]

Karma for making fun of him constantly

[sonic crown]

before the update i did 1.3m

and losed to insta combo

...

now, i cant even past near to 280ks

[warm turret]

the dealer is still dumb but less dumb

an extra iq point

[sudden citrus]

I mean, sometimes the dealer still makes dumb decisions.

[opal shale]

Or he just wanna end it all. 😔🙏

no wonder his name is the Dealer, as he is dealing with stuff.

[hot cloak]

hi I have a mod for widescreen

[earnest flicker]

How does he know what the phone told me before he used his phone?????

[slate estuary]

i finally just got 1mill it was so nerve racking

magnifying glass and inverter combo goes crazy

[winter geode]

Randomness

[winter geode]

Yessir

[slate estuary]

i wonder if anyones made an item tier list

[earnest flicker]

If they did I really hope they put handcuffs or beer at S tier

[slate estuary]

ive only ever played post patch

[earnest flicker]

Me too

[slate estuary]

beer is solid, dont think its S tier tho

id give it a solid B

[earnest flicker]

I bought it yesterday and beat it no deaths first try

[earnest flicker]

Nah at least an A

[slate estuary]

hell yea

the problem with beer is its not super useful unless theres a low amount of shells

[earnest flicker]

Yeah but at 4 shells or less it’s so goddamn good

[slate estuary]

meanwhile with the magnifying glass its always! useful unless you're you already know everything left

thats the reason i give beer a B, its good in the right situations

[earnest flicker]

Cool

[slate estuary]

but yea it is very useful at low shell counts

medicine is bottom tier tho imo, worst item in the game

the only use i get out of it is hoping the dealer steals it n hurts himself

[earnest flicker]

True

[slate estuary]

could have a temp save like with majoras mask where if you close the game without saving again the save is just gone

[rocky forge]

Morning CR!

Nearly mid-day infact

[slate estuary]

its very early for me rn

6:30

[earnest flicker]

13:30 for me

[rocky forge]

Two hours inhead then

I haven't anything to do today so I will be music, games, a little self-work and that's about it

[winter geode]

any one know how i can get this achievement?

[slate estuary]

die

[earnest flicker]

Oh

I somehow still don’t have it

[winter geode]

i tried

[earnest flicker]

So dyeing in DoN dosent count

[earnest flicker]

Probably he means in the normal mode

[slate estuary]

gotta do normal mode

yea

[earnest flicker]

Yeah I’m getting that achievement last

[slate estuary]

i only got 2 left

alot of the achievements are silly

[hushed steeple]

Need a can of beans item. Give strength to break cuffs or punch the opponent or something. Physically hit your opponent with the shotgun.

[slate estuary]

nah, spinach better

[opal shale]

die on normal mode's third round

[winter geode]

thx man

[junior ridge]

Since he asked for that one, may I ask for this one

[carmine flame]

consume pills beer and cigarretes at once

in any order i think

[vocal granite]

you need to consume beer, medicine, and a cigarette in a single turn in double or nothing mode.

[earnest flicker]

Indeed

[junior ridge]

...that's probably the dumbest achievement lol

[slate estuary]

nah, the dumbest is magnifying glass into shoot yourself with a live

breakfast of champions one i got on accident

[worthy aspen]

fr

[slate estuary]

yo

[white storm]

dealer's iq is TOTALLY 100, when he had last charge left on the final round he just smoked and that did nothing to him 👍

[earnest flicker]

Me too

[uncut ruin]

What does clubbing the dealer do?

[uncut ruin]

Clears up space

[slate estuary]

id assume deal damage

[white storm]

yeah but i killed him after that

[hushed steeple]

Could potentially shuffle what’s in the shotgun. Spose that doesn’t make a ton of sense, concussion shuffling the gun… idk. Probably just a confirmed damage deal but it has a chance to poison you or something no clue I just want beans.

Though the more I think about it the more I like the idea of an item that shuffles what’s in the gun. We have a lot of intel items atm. You see there’s two blanks, two lives, you shuffle what’s in the gun and now it’s scary. 4 lives? 3 blanks and 1 live? Maybe even 5 blanks? Maybe a blindfold could do that? Would probably be better for multiplayer though, since the ai is weird with how it tracks the shells.

[hybrid wolf]

I just have to say, great profile pic choice

[opal shale]

and nice banner

[hybrid wolf]

lol, I didn’t see this one

I don’t like shell shuffling as much as being able to swap two shells

And the opponent doesn’t know which ones have changed

So either you get info from the phone and move the guaranteed shell in the chamber
Or you use the MG, and place the shell in the dealer’s hand, knowing he’ll either shoot you with a blank or shoot himself with a live

Or any combination of this

You can even play the Monty hall problem lol

In a 1-2 situation
“You “chose” shell number one the one in the chamber, let me open a door use the phone and reveal what’s behind it. IT’S A BLANK ! Do you keep your choice ? Or do you want to switch ?”

I honestly see a lot of potential in an item like this

Same for a 1 turn shield

If you know you’re gonna get shot no matter what, get a temporary extra charge

You still get perma damage from multiple shots or handsaw damage, but you at least absorb the first shot

And it applies even at max health

[lofty wharf]

i agree! i love playing rosalina in smash bros 🔥

[hybrid wolf]

I hate that name tho

I know it’s the correct most widespread translation

I just hate it

My top 3 are :
Mainland France: Harmonie
Japan: Rosetta
Spain: Estella

(I’m precising mainland because Québec has its own version and they use Rosalina)

Anyway

Buckshot

[keen vortex]

Morning High Rollers

[plain mirage]

Morning

[hybrid wolf]

what do you mean I have mommy issues ? Just grab the shotgun

[opal shale]

i'm doing so good

and ig this is the end, i am not this good 😭

i left this

this is today 😎

[sour tulip]

All that remains is Full House and the two get a million achievements

[hybrid wolf]

There’s a 4th one

[opal shale]

and "1000K" and "Digita, Orava and Koni" and "Know When to Quit" and the mysterious "???"

I aimed for the Full house achievement yesterday and today, but its hard as frick...:(

[hybrid wolf]

Aaah right, the lesser full house

[sour tulip]

So the two get a million achievements and Full House

Because the other one is just a smaller version of it

[opal shale]

hehe

second completed game of mine? (after CS2???)

[sour tulip]

You'll need to perfect your strategy to get the million achievements

Otherwise the luck will overwhelm you

[opal shale]

I mean

before today i choose random names, and couldn't get past the first double or nothing win, except for once

today I chose the name "Relaed," and I won the first round of double or nothing at least 3 times including now

the dealer was just silly today, and shot himself sometimes lol

[hybrid wolf]

some games, I swear

[opal shale]

Man.. I wish I had this much time to game

[bronze olive]

What game is this lol

[opal shale]

top 4 of games of mine, listed as achievements, not too bad

[lofty wharf]

my completed games list

[opal shale]

i suck at half life

but wanna replay someday for the funny achievements

oooooooooooo

i can steam quiplash to this server :0000

if anyone wanna play

hehe

[hybrid wolf]

PayDay 2

[opal shale]

nice

[earnest flicker]

is this isaac

[hybrid wolf]

.

[earnest flicker]

oh

[lofty wharf]

isaac has less than half that many achievements lol

[hybrid wolf]

there's gems like this one lol

for context, it's a stealth-only mission, if you're caught, it's game over
and those weapons make you highly visible and you can't use them without sounding the alarm

[silk trench]

What's the latest version of Buckshot Roulette? Why are people saying it's 60% chance of 1 damage and 40% of getting two health when using medicine?

wait, nvm, I see it in the patch notes now

they just read it wrong, lol

[opal shale]

changed to 50%

was surprised it was different back then

got a tiny heart attack because i thought i translated it wrong in hungarian lmao

[lofty wharf]

it used to be better 😔

[opal shale]

50%, but i die all the time when i consume the medicine

[silk trench]

same lol

what's the deal with the $10 highscores everyone's tired of seeing posted? Was the money calculation changed?

[lofty wharf]

yea you lose money based on how long you take in the first 3 rounds of double or nothing

[opal shale]

you lose money?

wow

[silk trench]

oh, it's just the initial amount that gets doubles that's decreased, I see

66 dollars a second, that's a lot

[lofty wharf]

totally legit scores

[hybrid wolf]

yup

what's interesting is that they're probably ordered by the number of rounds won first, and score second

otherwise idk how those negative numbers would get ordered like this

[opal shale]

no no, they are just this good at the game.

[hybrid wolf]

highest score had a starting score that had the binary for 8417 in it somewhere

possible starting scores :

 8417
24801
41185
57569 (unlikely)
16834
49602
33668

which means a supposed 49 to 51 doublings
so 147 to 153 consecutive rounds won

[silk trench]

if it's a negative number it has to be somewhere around that

[hybrid wolf]

(there's technically another possible score but it's above 60k, and I don't even think a TAS can achieve that)

[silk trench]

ref one of my streams way long ago

[hybrid wolf]

oh you can go negative with only 47 doublings

[silk trench]

yea, so somewhere around that

[hybrid wolf]

not just somewhere, I'm actually doing the maths lol

[silk trench]

yea, I'm saying that if the score is negative on the leaderboard, we already know it's around that amount of consecutive rounds won

even without doing the math

[hybrid wolf]

I suppose

do you know the maximum number of doublings tho ?

[silk trench]

without going negative?

[hybrid wolf]

no just in general

[silk trench]

well, it's binary

[hybrid wolf]

well theoretically you can go infinite
but at some point it stops being useful

[silk trench]

so every odd number can go on the "longest" without becoming 0

if you have 1 then you can do 63 doublings before you get an overflow, but since 10 is the minimum that's not possible

[hybrid wolf]

10 is not the minimum

well

in some sense

[silk trench]

minimum starting number

[hybrid wolf]

right

the real flex is getting 0 on the leaderboard

x)

11 is the lowest starting number that can get you to max non-0 doublings

[silk trench]

70000 in binary is b10001000101110000
meaning the best starting number is b01111111111111111 = 65535, which gives you b1111111111111111000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 before overflowing

[hybrid wolf]

which is 63

[silk trench]

o, like that

[silk trench]

and yea, since any odd number gives the same number of doublings

then the lowest odd number over 10 will be the lowest starting score

but 69999 would also give the same amount of non-zero doublings

[hybrid wolf]

alternatively, wait 4 billion years, and get a starting score of 0b0111111111111111000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

[silk trench]

true lol

[hybrid wolf]

it needs to be positive so

one doubling

and you're max score

[silk trench]

I wonder how fast you can beat 3 rounds if you only get 2 health rounds, start with hand saw, and first shot is live

[hybrid wolf]

you can't have handsaws in 2 charge rounds
but because of the way the dealer is coded, if the first two shells are live, he will shoot himself

[silk trench]

o, it was patched out? that's nice

[soft nova]

If it's a 1/1 situation, and you have both a burner phone and a magnifying glass, which one would you use?

[sour tulip]

You can

But only after the first load is complete

[hybrid wolf]

you need a run that has :
3 rounds of 2 charge
at least 2 live rounds
that are at the start of the sequence
2 items
that have to be, for the dealer, a combination of pills, inverters, and adrenaline
for the player you can have anything if the dealer doesn't have adrenaline, otherwise you need the same set of items as him

in this situation, it's the fastest it can be, 3 rounds of getting 2 items, shooting the dealer, and getting the dealer to shoot himself without using items

that's a 1 in 21.4 million games

[sour tulip]

Burner phone

Both do effectively the same thing and on average the burner phone is not as immediately helpful as a magnifying glass, especially for a 1/1 situation where you might want to end the Dealer immediately on the next load

[hybrid wolf]

exactly

well

if I know the dealer will use my MG first, I use the MG

[sour tulip]

It's a 1/1 situation

[lofty wharf]

exactly

[hybrid wolf]

even in a 1-1, he can still use it next loadout

[silk trench]

burner, magnifying glass is slightly better IMO, so I'd rather keep it

[sour tulip]

So you will get your turn again next round and even if you shoot him, he won't steal the glass for the final shot in the gun

[lofty wharf]

mag is significantly better

[sour tulip]

Nah

They're about equal but for different situations

[lofty wharf]

yes

[soft nova]

I was thinking earlier that since shooting yourself and shooting the dealer effectively have the same expected value (in a 1/1); if the dealer has items you should shoot yourself to keep him from using them.

That wasn't meant to be a reply my b

[silk trench]

if you have handcuffs then burner is pretty good

if you know the last shell is a blank, then you have a higher chance of hitting lives until the last one

[lofty wharf]

phone is useful if you can get down only a few shells left. But it's the situations where there's a ton of shells left where you have the highest risk of losing, so phone being bad in those situations is very un-epic.

[sour tulip]

Yes

Finally, someone who gets it

[silk trench]

it also is the only item that has hidden information, meaning that it prevents "perfect" play

not that it matters against the dealer, but in multiplayer it can

[lofty wharf]

i dont get it. it doesnt really matter if you know the last shell when theres 7 shells left

[hybrid wolf]

burner gets more and more useful the less shells are left
it gives you a guarantee in the spot it tells you, and reduces the probabilities in the others

[silk trench]

if there's 3 live 4 blank, knowing the last shell is a blank makes the next shot a 50/50 rather than a ~42.9/57.1

[sour tulip]

It improves your odds by telling you a future shot, rulling it out for other shells

[lofty wharf]

but im just gonna shoot dealer anyway so it doesnt matter

[sour tulip]

In addition to being a magnifying glass should you be holding the gun during that shot

[sour tulip]

That's not always the best move

[hybrid wolf]

phone is just a bad monty hall dilema lmao

[silk trench]

it's not monty hall

[hybrid wolf]

it somewhat is

[silk trench]

why do people keep trying to bring up monty hall for buckshot roulette

[sour tulip]

It's not Monty Hall at all lol

That's an entirely different dilemma

[hybrid wolf]

in 1-2, if it gives you a blank, it absolutely is monty hall

[sour tulip]

No it isn't

[silk trench]

no, because it can give you a live

[sour tulip]

Because burner makes it a 50/50

[hybrid wolf]

no it does not

[sour tulip]

Bruh

[hybrid wolf]

let me explain :
before using the phone, it's not monty hall because it could give the position of he live

[silk trench]

if it could only give you blanks, then in a way it could be monty hall

[sour tulip]

The idea of Monty Hall is that you choose an option, and you are revealed one of the wrong choices guaranteed, and as a direct result you are sort of guided to which is more likely to be the right choice

[hybrid wolf]

but once you use it and you know it gave you the blank
then it's straight up monty hall

[sour tulip]

Burner phone doesn't do that

If you get revealed a blank it truly does become 50/50

[lofty wharf]

can you explain

[hybrid wolf]

ok, let's wite down all the possibilities

[sour tulip]

Depends a lot on what the Dealer has on his table.

It's complicated

But essentially it can sometimes be more worthwhile to shoot yourself and even take damage than let the Dealer have the gun

[silk trench]

All the options are:
100 2b
010 2l
001 2b
100 3b
010 3b
001 3l

Just taking the ones where the dealer gives you a blank:
100 2b
001 2b
100 3b
010 3b

still a 50% chance of hitting it, not 1/3rd

[sour tulip]

Yes, which is what I said

You went from 66% chance to miss to 50%

[silk trench]

^

[sour tulip]

Monty Hall goes from 66% chance to miss to only 33%

It's different

Mind

If you add in the chance that you are shown the live round I believe it does tally up to be equivalent odds

[lofty wharf]

yes

[sour tulip]

But for different reasons

Probability is fun kids

[silk trench]

now if it could only give blanks then:
100 2b 1/6th
100 3b 1/6th
010 3b 1/3rd
001 2b 1/3rd

So if you shoot yourself, you have a 1/3rd chance of knowing where the live is

[lofty wharf]

because dealer will start shooting himself too if you hit a live?

[sour tulip]

The item especially in question is the inverter

[silk trench]

if it's 1/1 and the dealer has a handsaw, you want to shoot yourself

[sour tulip]

It doesn't matter if the gun is empty if the Dealer has that

[lofty wharf]

im talking about when theres like 7 or 8 shells. and specifically why youd want to shoot yourself and why burner phone revealing the last shell as blank would matter in that decision

[silk trench]

because it's better to have a 50% chance to take 1 damage than 2

[hybrid wolf]

hn

[sour tulip]

Early in a round like that? Basically unavoidable to let the Dealer not get the gun, so it's usually best to just keep your items (unless they have adrenaline, then make the proper adjustments) and use them later.

[silk trench]

if it's regular dealer then shooting generally is better on higher rounds

[hybrid wolf]

I guess the reason it's not monty hall is because the phone doesn't actually know shit lmao

[lofty wharf]

yea but if its low health round and/or dealer has adrenaline, you cant just keep items all the time. and thats when phone becomes rly bad compared to mag

hmm... if its a 7 shell round and phone reveals 3rd shell live, should you shoot yourself twice? if dealer has no items it would guarantee that dealer gets shot with 3rd shell, right?

[silk trench]

it's more useful if you have handcuffs

or beer

basically anything that can offset the every other by one

[hybrid wolf]

esperance trees get wild with this game

[hybrid wolf]

let me use my bot to give you the answer

what's the exact game state ?

(the bot assumes the dealer is a perfect player btw)

(I need to implement its actual AI)

[lofty wharf]

ok lets say its 3 health round, 7 shells. you have phone + pills, dealer has adrenaline + pills

if phone reveals 3rd is live, shooting yourself twice would literally guarantee survival to the next round, which wouldnt be guaranteed by just blindly shooting dealer

im a genius, man. im gonna go get 10 billion now

[hybrid wolf]

so it's assumed you used the phone

ok

7 shells means 3-4

[lofty wharf]

yeah i dont like holding onto phone when im not guaranteed to make it far into the round. But I guess i would hold onto the phone if its a 3 charge round and dealer doesnt have good items, so that might be a bad example

[hybrid wolf]

does that look correct ?

[lofty wharf]

wait nvm dealer has adrenaline so i probably would use phone

[hybrid wolf]

I mean you assume you already used your phone

right ?

[lofty wharf]

yeah

[hybrid wolf]

so in this case

against a perfect player

you're fucked

-30 is your esperance

[lofty wharf]

dealer isnt perfect player

[hybrid wolf]

I know

I didn't implement the AI yet

I also need to fix the way the phone works

[lofty wharf]

hmm even if its a 2 health round i think it would be optimal to shoot self twice there

[silk trench]

you can't :)

it's horrible

the phone makes it a hidden information game

[hybrid wolf]

I mean in my bot, to reflect how it actually works

[silk trench]

yea, I'm just saying you can't make it be a perfect player

[hybrid wolf]

because I assumed the phone would skip over known info

[silk trench]

I've been on the brunt end of that x_x

[hybrid wolf]

what I mean by "perfect player" is someone that always chooses the path of best esperance

[silk trench]

yea, with hidden info that's not possible

[hybrid wolf]

you can calculate the odds

[lofty wharf]

yeah hidden info doesnt mean you cant play perfectly

[hybrid wolf]

whenever a phone is used, I calculate the esperance of a max of 14 different outcomes lmao

[silk trench]

Right, but say the phone was used the previous round

what do you pass into the ai then?

[lofty wharf]

you mean previous turn?

[hybrid wolf]

well in that case I kinda ignore that because there's no way to implement it

[silk trench]

My point exactly

[rough heath]

what's going on?

[hybrid wolf]

that just feels like an "akchually" argument but sure

[silk trench]

I was just saying the phone is horrible to implement when making a "perfect" player

bc it's it makes it a hidden information game

[hybrid wolf]

the hope is that the path taken in the step where it's assumed the dealer could use the phone stired me in a direction where even with no knowledge of his information, I have better odds

I never said my bot was a perfect player

[silk trench]

What I do is store it for the current shell only

[hybrid wolf]

I said it assumes the dealer is

[manic wyvern]

He inserts the shells in a ‘random’ order

[hybrid wolf]

I store a list of the definitely known shells

not that different from what Mike does

[silk trench]

I do that too, but I don't, like, pass it down when searching if that makes sense

[hybrid wolf]

the biggest issue with implementing the actual dealer AI is that I need to refactor the way I do items because of box order

[silk trench]

oh?

[hybrid wolf]

currently I just input the number of different item types

[silk trench]

oh, you mean when doing the original one, yea

got confused for a few seconds there lol

[hybrid wolf]

no, even the DoN one

[silk trench]

yea, I mean the one in the game

[hybrid wolf]

right yeah

[silk trench]

naming it sure is difficult

[hybrid wolf]

for an accurate dealer AI, I need to meticulously name my items in the order I received them
and add a way to list the dealer's items in ordered batches of unordered items

[silk trench]

My biggest problem is figuring out how Mike is handling the freaking adrenaline, since I'm modding it directly into the game >:c

[hybrid wolf]

and assume perfect play within those batches

[hybrid wolf]

oh it's quite easy

[silk trench]

I mean, like, the physical action of taking an item from the player, not how it decides what to take

[hybrid wolf]

adrenaline is used after all the dealer items have failed to be used
and it then assumes your items are his

a

[lofty wharf]

that would make him always steal cigs over pills. which maybe he does

[sour tulip]

He does

Can 100% confirm

You need to take all your cigs off the table before he'll ever consider taking the pills instead

[silk trench]

are the pills good in any scenario?

[lofty wharf]

yes

[sour tulip]

Yes

They have two distinct use cases

[silk trench]

o?

[sour tulip]

1.)

It's easy to waste the Dealer's adrenaline on them

2.)

If your odds are worse than 50/50 at winning, and 2 healing can get out out of it, pills are better odds

#2 is not common at all with that said

[lofty wharf]

theres more use cases

if youre at 2 health and dealer has saw for example

[sour tulip]

So #2

[lofty wharf]

not really. you can have over 50% odds of winning while pills is still good to use

because therse no risk

[sour tulip]

I wouldn't use the pills then

[lofty wharf]

what about the situation i just told you about

[sour tulip]

I wouldn't use them

There's no risk but also no benefit

Keeping them has the benefit of #1 applying

[lofty wharf]

huh? you wouldnt use pills at 2 hp when daeler has saw?

[sour tulip]

In a situation where #2 is not applying, yeah

I can see what you are saying and I get the logic, but I'd rather keep them

[slate estuary]

depends on your max health

[silk trench]

I would rather have cigarettes than bad medicine i think

[sour tulip]

Well yeah

It's objectively a better item

[winter geode]

i take pills if i have a cig left to regain that potentially lost charge, or if i know the dealer has a saw and is gonna get a shot next round, cause either way i'd be fucked

[slate estuary]

no downside what so ever

the only POTENTIAL downside is dealer stealing the cigs, but in that case just waste em

[winter geode]

the only time smoking is good for you lol

[slate estuary]

metal gear solid

[lofty wharf]

3 live, 1 blank
dealer has 1 hp and saw
you have 2 hp and pills
pills literally raise your chance of winning from 75% to 87.5% with no downside

[silk trench]

I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW ADRENALINE IS CODED

or like

how did I make the dealer steal adrenaline from the player >:c

[sour tulip]

That's incredibly unlikely but alright, sure.

I'll list that as #3

Or moreso I could combine that with #2, the idea being that the possibility of healing yourself is more important than taking a single damage

[slate estuary]

unlikely dont matter, if the situation comes up it comes up

in general tho i dont use medicine, its garbo

[silk trench]

Was the cigarette limit removed?

[bronze olive]

There was a cig limit !?

[lofty wharf]

cig limit used to be 2
its still 2 i believe

[bronze olive]

Hmm. Gotcha

[slate estuary]

that u can hold or use?

[silk trench]

I only see the handsaw thing

[silk trench]

lol, got one

[sour tulip]

Well then

Time to use the pills, hope they get you out of that situation

[silk trench]

they did

[sour tulip]

[hybrid wolf]

is that a shell counting mod ?

[silk trench]

yea

[junior ridge]

It is useful, that's why I did one myself lol

My memory's so bad it can't even keep up with crucial information

[bronze olive]

YO?????

That's kinda awesome

[silk trench]

my AI has been stuck for the past 10-20 minutes

[lofty wharf]

is it one that automatically tracks shells?

[silk trench]

yea

it updates after they're shot or ejected

[lofty wharf]

oh damn is there a download link
also is there burner phone support

[silk trench]

no burner phone support no

it's from the previous update, didn't bother updatingi t

link probably later today

[lofty wharf]

cool. im probably gonna stick to trackers with phone support tho, even if theyre manual

[silk trench]

my pc is working so hard on trying to figure out what the dealer should do 😔

[muted ginkgo]

Is this where people are discussing the ARG?

[keen vortex]

#1225504147722342461

Hey! feel free to pop in here

[muted ginkgo]

Thank you!

[keen vortex]

np!

[sour tulip]

I just say the shots out loud

And if need be I write them down myself

[hybrid wolf]

I might download it
Not that I can’t keep up, but it’s like
better than note taking or repeating yourself over and over again lol

[hybrid wolf]

Same but it starts getting confusing when you also try to memorize 2 phone shells

And then you need to do maths to know your probabilities

And inverters aren’t helping

Like it’s doable, but I do like quality of life stuff

[sour tulip]

Which is where I start writing it down

I don't know, I like being genuine when playing the game

If you like the assistance, go for it

[still haven]

Does anyone know what the hidden achievments are?

[hybrid wolf]

I don’t see it as assistance and more like, I don’t need to prove I can do it, I can, I’ve done it multiple times
It’s not the core of the game when you go beyond a certain point

[hybrid wolf]

Play stupid

And you’ll get a few

Become a hoarder and you’ll get some others

Get curious about the lore, and I think that’s the last one

If you want straight up answers I can give them, but I think half the fun is figuring it out

[hybrid wolf]

Oh I guess this one is wrong, it’s not part of the secrets

The final hint is : just vibe

[sudden citrus]

Uses phone. Hi Dominoes? Can I get a medium sized cheese pizza with a side of breadsticks and delicious chocolate lava cakes for dessert?"

When I use the burner phone, it feels like I'm ordering a pizza. 🤣

[keen vortex]

LOL im so suggestable now I want pizza

[hybrid wolf]

Item : pizza
Share a slice with the dealer
You both restore 1 charge

The animation is you grabbing a slice and the dealer just eating the rest of it including the box

[sour tulip]

Do you want a straight answer?

If so

||Use a handsaw and shoot yourself, resulting in your death||

||Try to name yourself God||

||Uncover a live round with the magnifying glass and shoot yourself with it||

||Use every one of the 9 items in a single turn||

||Use the computer to check the leaderboard.||

||Kick the 1st door down and proceed to stand there, listening to the nightclub's music for an entire minute||

[sour tulip]

Why

Like, ignoring you adding a fairly innocent item to a game about addiction taking place in a nightclub, that's just a straight downgrade to the cigarettes

[bronze olive]

https://tenor.com/view/hypnosis-gif-20354324

OOOHHH YOU WANNA MAKE A DEALER DATING SIM REAL

[night marsh]

Seconding this

[hybrid wolf]

The pills are already a downgrade to cigarettes

But yes, it’s not meant to be optimal

It’s just a fun idea

But about addiction

Fast food addiction is definitely a thing

I guess a more interesting use for it would be that you need to finish the pizza to get back to max health

4 slices

Or maybe just 3

Yeah

Hn

Ok I got it

Pizza slice :
After eating 6, get back to max health
Stacks between rounds

[hybrid wolf]

What do you think ?

That makes it interesting as an item to engulf in low health rounds in order to use it as an emergency in high health rounds
While maybe cluttering your inventory and making the dealer a bit more resistant

You have to choose between destroying your stack even though you’re not about to die
Or letting the dealer get back to max health

[sour tulip]

They're worse in general yes

But they are at the very least not a direct downgrade

This?

[brisk elm]

is the arg kitten role for people who made the arg or those trying to solve it?

[sour tulip]

In every possible situation it's worse than normal cigs or equal

[sour tulip]

Honestly

This sounds a lot better

But it's also really annoying to keep track of

Especially for the Dealer

The last thing you need is for the Dealer to eat a pizza slice and whoops that's 3 health regained right there buster

And stopping it isn't always an option, you don't always roll adrenaline

[bronze olive]

those trying to solve it

[brisk elm]

how do i get it?

[sudden citrus]

Why is everyone in love with the dealer? xD

I mean, sure he's cute when he smiles, but still.

The funniest achievement is the identifying a live round with a magnifying glass and then shooting yourself. LOL

It's like the game is telling you, "Bruh, why?"

[tawdry otter]

Idk, but not even the dev was immune to his charm #│fanart-chat message

[winter geode]

Lost a chicken this morning 😢

[tawdry otter]

Ouch, local predator or just natural passing?

[winter geode]

Natural passing

Could have been depression however

[hybrid wolf]

Monster fuckers everywhere

[winter geode]

Rather skittish and would often sit on her non fertile eggs

[hybrid wolf]

(I say that with the upmost love and full knowledge that I’m part of the problem)

[winter geode]

You really are

[hybrid wolf]

I’m a furry, what did you expect

[winter geode]

A level of decency.

[hybrid wolf]

You misspelled degeneracy

[winter geode]

Its like trying to f a deathclaw

It will kill you before you get a chance to try

[lofty wharf]

imagine if pills had 51% success rate

would go hard fr

[sour tulip]

@hybrid wolf I tested this some more

I'm more inclined to believe it's true

1 live, 3 blank, Dealer uses phone

He then proceeds to shoot himself all three times without ever picking up the magnifying glass

I have no clue where in the code it exists but there has to be something here

[lofty wharf]

its here #│nightclub message

[sour tulip]

Neat

I knew it was true

Just needed the proof for it

[hybrid wolf]

yes, I checked the code
every time he tries to use an item the dealer check to see if with the ejected shells and the ones he knows the position of, there's no more blanks or lives he doesn't know the position of
if he knows all the blanks or all the lives, then he assumes he knows everything
which means in a 1-x if he uses the phone and finds the blank, that piece of code will tell him "yeah you know the entire sequence"

[sour tulip]

👍

[hot relic]

I saw something in a news post about a possible beta for multiplayer ? Is that gonna be a thing?

[hybrid wolf]

it's a function called "figureoutshell"

I think

[sour tulip]

There's going to be a multiplayer mode in the future, yes

[hybrid wolf]

yup there it is :

[sour tulip]

And naturally they're going to test it with a beta

[warm turret]

if there's a global ranking system for multiplayer i'm gonna get fired from my job because i'm gonna spend 72 straight hours climbing the ladder

[hybrid wolf]

lmao same
I don't have a job

[hot relic]

I meant the beta for it but that's awesome

[hot relic]

Mood

I'm glad I got into this game before the Makeship campaign ended

[warm turret]

me too

[fallen beacon]

This is yours, if it is not notice that you are monetizing it.

[warm turret]

this is definitely a knockoff

[coral relic]

Hey, thanks for letting us know. That is not a Critical Reflex title, I'd definitely advise against downloading it.

[hot relic]

Wow I hope you guys can get that taken down

[white storm]

"The world's most exciting gunfight strategy game" totally...

[bleak comet]

The AI in DoN knows too much

I swear

[hybrid wolf]

it targets based on if there are more lives or blanks

[bleak comet]

Successfully hits two successful inversions in a row without using a magnifying glass or phone or it being the last shell
Yeah, totally.

More like it's actually cheating and knows the shell order by itself.

[warm turret]

i'm pretty sure the ai is not programmed to use an inverter unless it absolutely knows the shell is blank, and it figures out the shell through legit means (checking if 0 lives or blanks, magnifying glass, or using burner phone knowledge)

just looking through the code

[bleak comet]

Oh OK\

He just shot me successfully without any knowledge of the bullet tho, and it wasn't the last one

No way the AI isn't cheating

[warm turret]

i honestly don't know how the ai could cheat, unless there's some wacky code i'm missing. you don't have any mods installed?

[bleak comet]

No

[warm turret]

actually my decompiled buckshot code was before the latest hotfix. in theory it could have changed

[hybrid wolf]

oh if he used inverters, that means he knew the shells were blank

[bleak comet]

I mean maybe there were only blanks in there

OK, explain this: he used a beer without knowing the shell was a blank, and he successfully guessed. THEN he used the magnifying glass, hit a live. I used a burner phone and did figure out the third shell was blank.

[hybrid wolf]

if there are more live than blanks he automatically targets you

the inverse is true

if there's the same number, he flips a coin

[bleak comet]

OK

[bleak comet]

How does the point system work?

[hybrid wolf]

start at 70k
timer starts when you finish signing
timer stops when you shoot the winning shell
for every 3 seconds you lose 200$

in campain mode rn I'm desperately trying to not use beers...

[winter geode]

did you win

[hybrid wolf]

nope lol

[hybrid wolf]

btw quick question
what's the ARG about ?

istg

[winter geode]

honestly i'm not really sure what it's about, there's clues but i don't think enough has been discovered yet to properly explain any story/lore

[hybrid wolf]

I mean like
where does it even start ?

[winter geode]

it's something to do with volta electronics

the computer given to you where you see the leaderboard is a volta one and people found a website/email for it

that's where the arg started but i don't know what their importance is

sorry i havent been very active in solving it lately been very busy

[junior ridge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lsUxvu3kzERMMr7opZ5WgxvHBqo6VtT-4OG66uPo06M

He's all the progress made

Also, if you want to join in you can do so by asking rita for the ARG kitten role #1225504147722342461 here

[hybrid wolf]

hn

[hybrid wolf]

has anything been linked to that one company that keeps pulling weird creatures out of holes in the ground ?

otherwise I think I'll pass

I've been involved with enough disappointing ARGs this year

[junior ridge]

If you're talking about past Kublinka games, they have been considered but rn they aren't the focus

[hybrid wolf]

kinda

I'm talking about the only point of lore that is confirmed to be linked between 2 Klubnika games

[junior ridge]

I think it had a different name than Volta

[hybrid wolf]

Carbon Steel and Control Room Alpha both feature the same idea and the same company logo

I'd need to check the exact names, but yes it's most likely not the same

[junior ridge]

The ARG is also currently receiving hints

Although I think the community is a bit lost

Cuz we're trying to understand a poem we've been stuck with for a while

For...some reason

[hybrid wolf]

I don't think the company is named in CS
but in CRA they're called E.K.R.E.

at least it's the name of whoever hired the crane operator

for all we know the 5 tentacule company might just make cranes and elevators

[junior ridge]

I don't think it's the same company

[hybrid wolf]

I don't think EKRE is VOLTA
but there might be an alliance or competition is what I'm saying

[junior ridge]

Yeah but I don't think they had the same goals

Volta literally sucked God's powers and either left heaven for dead or attacked it themselves

[hybrid wolf]

the chronology of EKRE is most likely CRA, then CS
the incident in CRA make them instal more robust materials and protocoles
eventually they shut down
and many years later in CS they open again and try to do human experiment

but whatever they found in CRA looks pretty god-like in its implied powers

we literally don't see anything other than a floating orb

[junior ridge]

I haven't actually played the game lol

Although in BR Volta is the electronics supplier in the game

The monitor and phones are confirmed to be Volta's

[hybrid wolf]

wait actually I can narrow it down a little

CRA takes place in 2047

[junior ridge]

Yep nope

BR takes place in 1998

[hybrid wolf]

well they do get involved with time travel so

[junior ridge]

The gap is pretty significant

[hybrid wolf]

not impossible

[junior ridge]

Yeah but I think it's better if we consider them completely detached from one another

[hybrid wolf]

hnnn

[junior ridge]

Yeah, that's what the Dealer did

Killed God

And heaven is confirmed to be godless, so...

[junior ridge]

That's a bit of an overstretch, but it's not the last time an August date has been found

[hybrid wolf]

yeah that's why

[hybrid wolf]

and I don't think it's that much of a stretch

why add random numbers, including some that don't even translate

like 0 doesn't correspond to anything

why not stick to 4593945

[junior ridge]

Oh ok I get it now

Yeah, that's very interesting

[hybrid wolf]

about Cupio dissolvi :
I think this is much more interesting in a game about addictions

[junior ridge]

Checks out

It's either a desire to destroy something external or, indeed, self destruction

[hybrid wolf]

did someone try to call the number ?
after a quick search it looks like it's just... some random woman in Pensilvania

oh right I'm dumb

[lament wagon]

Hey guys! No drama please.

[hybrid wolf]

alright

can't guarantee it'll be the last time if we interact tho so uh
sorry in advance, I'll try my best

[lament wagon]

Thank you, trying their best is all we want from our community

[hybrid wolf]

[slate estuary]

my purpose in life is to cause problems ||i have no clue whats going on||

[lament wagon]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/62a96f7fc125c5cb626febf20f2b55b1/99adc4708fa99012-db/s540x810/ad3c752a60a77c2b0ffda37b83b7372a5b2bc43d.gif

mines to solve them

[slate estuary]

😳

i think we may be star crossed lovers

[lament wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-shrek-meme-shrek-staring-shrek-smiling-gif-14430015749099037012

[slate estuary]

[slate estuary]

[leaden stratus]

@slender moth cheese

[lament wagon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1208058717103194113/1209210347328766042/diiler-ttvk4d.gif

[still haven]

Thanks man! Yes I wanted the straight answer 😄

[junior ridge]

I just got the first one without dying what

[lofty wharf]

dealer hit me once! He must be cheatibg!!!

[slate estuary]

if anything the player cheats being able to play first every round as well as being able to use up all the shells on some hands before the dealer gets a single turn, sometimes killing him before getting a single turn too. the odds are generally stacked in your favor

[hybrid wolf]

"dying" here refers to having to use a defibrilator charge

[rain oyster]

hey y'all, got a little teaser for ya coming later today
got some reeeeeal juicy info out of Mike for this, so keep an eye out!!

[slate estuary]

howd you get into my house

[opal shale]

Raising the Bar Shotgun

[slate estuary]

Calling the Shots

[vocal granite]

you're onto something here 👀
you could ask rita for the ARG kitten role on #1225504147722342461 and join us in the channels to talk about this

[winter geode]

Pov: your the dealer and all you see is this because of all the expired meds beer cigs and adrenaline

[slate estuary]

earthbound

[vocal granite]

i added your observation to our progress document too!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lsUxvu3kzERMMr7opZ5WgxvHBqo6VtT-4OG66uPo06M/edit

[opal shale]

so https:\/\/buckshotroulette.com exists...

someone a paid at least a grand (what I assume is that grand means 1000 dollars in american English) for this domain

[tawdry otter]

That or they're domain squatting, that's not uncommon

[lament wagon]

Thank you for keeping an eye out for us ❤️

[junior ridge]

And it leads to a pirated version of the game! Yay!

Can't stand those

[slate estuary]

imagine pirating a $3 indie game

[lofty wharf]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1207635466308952075/1226607505304588391/steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.gif

[wispy viper]

Someone put a pirated version of the game up? 😐

[sonic crown]

I LOVE PRIVACY!1!2!!2!2!2!1!!1!1!1!2! 🥰

[vocal granite]

https://tenor.com/view/power-wheel-cop-police-funny-funny-cop-gif-17537628

[wispy viper]

I LOVE MTN DEW

[wispy viper]

If all police pulled up like this... I could not take them seriously. But I've always wanted one of those. I still want to get one lol\

[vocal granite]

sfkjsnfsd

i never take police seriously

[wispy viper]

With all the news that comes out each year, neither can I.

[vocal granite]

omg sayori hiiiiiii

hehe

love the new nick+pfp ❤️

[wispy viper]

Thank you c: I'm so use to putting my real name and face online but now I just wanna be Sayori 😌

[vocal granite]

that's so valid

[slate estuary]

i wanna be ganondorf in real life

[iron reef]

hi there, is buckshotroulette.com legit ?

[proud iron]

Yes, it is.

But against TOS.

It's piracy

[iron reef]

well im only worried because i opened it and thought it was official

im buying the game now

[proud iron]

Oh, no worrys.

[proud iron]

Alrighty, have fun!

[iron reef]

it's the first result on google, thanks

[proud iron]

Yeah, they paid Google ADS so it's on top.

[iron reef]

i see, thanks for clarification

is it better for the dev if i buy on steam or itch

[proud iron]

Yeah no problem dude.

[proud iron]

It's the same, the Developers get the money. I would recommend the Steam version.

It will be provided with much more updates and hotfixes.

[iron reef]

steam it is then, thanks!

[proud iron]

No problem!

[hybrid wolf]

Aha thanks but no, there’s someone in there I’d rather not get involved with

I’ll keep looking from a distance if that’s ok

[wispy viper]

I am sorry to hear that someone specific is keeping you from asking for the Kitten role 😦

I like the ideas you come up with (:

[hybrid wolf]

If I find anything of substance I’ll let you know

[umbral spear]

Does anyone knows how the ost is muffled when we inside the room?

[hybrid wolf]

I have a quick question :
I keep seeing people saying Rita confirmed the poem is linked to Dante's inferno
I personally don't see the connection and can't find any real confirmation anywhere other than hearsay
what was her exact message about that ?

[wispy viper]

I'm actually not sure since I joined the Discord late 😞

[cedar sky]

crusty ass drawing

[wispy viper]

@vocal granite did you happen to see Rita's message? 😊

[sonic crown]

i kill polices.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1210524750858952756/1232775317517631499/image0.gif

idk man

its a

ehm

[cedar sky]

what happene

[hybrid wolf]

@cedar sky

[bronze olive]

WEWHAT DI YOU FUCKING MEAN THE DEALER HAD A MONOLGOUE

MIKE. RELEASE THE DEALER MONOLOGUE CUT

RRRAAAREERGGUHHHGGSHEHWSJWNJSBDKW

HAHA I KNEW IT I KNEW YOU WERE DEAD I NEVER DOUBTED IT

[hybrid wolf]

???

[bronze olive]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2835570/view/4184482996989219933

REEEEAAADDD.

[cedar sky]

If you play Fun Run 3, you know what i'm talking about

[umbral spear]

I just played br with muffled caramelldansen on background

[junior ridge]

Should be an achievement in game

[slate estuary]

yea unfort its higher than the itch page

[vocal granite]

huh?

which one?

[wispy viper]

@vocal granite

Referring to their question.

[vocal granite]

i can't find the exact words

lemme catch up on that

[hybrid wolf]

btw I saw you guys were planning a timeline

if we're involving Carbon Steel because of the date

we can't let EKRE slide

august 1st 1998: deicide (?)
august 4-8 1998: Carbon Steel, EKRE reopens the pit, a project abandoned for years, to do experiments on creatures and eventually on humans.
august 5th 1998: some event worth remembering
august 7th 1998: CS good ending, sabotage of the project, with an explosion (possible cause of VOLTA's Shutdown ? need more info on the connection between VOLTA and EKRE)
august 21st 1998: Buckshot roulette
january 9th 2041: Control Room Alpha, EKRE opens another pit operation, ends in discovery of an unknown floating orb

we also know VOLTA is involved with time travel because of the burner phone

CS and CRA are the only 2 Klubnika projects with a confirmed connection, we can't just add one and ignore the other lol

[cobalt epoch]

Don't mind me just electrocuting my ears

[vocal granite]

you all seen this? https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2835570/view/4184482996989219933?l=english

[slate estuary]

how many of yall play normally instead of double or nothin

[hybrid wolf]

once in a while

[slate estuary]

def want this for multiplayer

[hybrid wolf]

I guess that explains the circle

[bronze olive]

I've been busy losing my mind about the monologue

I'd do anything to know what Dealers cut lines were

(If he even got to that stage of planning)

[cobalt epoch]

100% yea for multiplayer mode

[bronze olive]

Also home of sexuals 💖💖💖💖

🏳️‍🌈?????? I care him.

[rough forge]

swinging my feet waiting for multiplayer everyday

[bronze olive]

Me too....

Swinging my feet waiting for literally ANYTHINg

[manic wyvern]

Dealer 2 ❤️

[bronze olive]

HEHEH

[manic wyvern]

If the Dealer is so good why isn’t there a second one

[hybrid wolf]

there is actually

[manic wyvern]

Dude. Dealer mitosis

[slate estuary]

multiplayer is where this game is gonna really explode

n its already doin great

[vocal granite]

https://tenor.com/view/e3-peggle-jump-two-gif-13350703

[opal shale]

just read it. I love knowing all the cuts and not made in stuff in games. Same with pilot tv episodes. they're so different from the actual product.

and I love the idea of programming your own winning jingle with that synthesizer

[bronze olive]

It's so cuuuutteeee ;;;

WWWAAAAH

[lofty wharf]

omg i need the synthesizer

[carmine flame]

imagine the among us sus theme playing any time you win

[bronze olive]

I WANT IT SO BAD

MIKE PLEASE

[lofty wharf]

megalovania

[bronze olive]

I'd program it to play such silly things

BWHDBEKX

[opal shale]

everybody gangsta till you win, and something suspicious is playing instead

[bronze olive]

In animal crossing I'd always make the USSR anthem for my town jingle

Sooo..I'd probably just do that here too Lol

(It sounded good okay)

[lofty wharf]

i hate how you cant actually play half the notes in animal crossing tho, only white keys allowed

[bronze olive]

True

😦

They're so cute too.

[umbral spear]

i want to explode

[winter geode]

mike make it so we have an ending where we kiss the dealer

[vernal acorn]

pls no

[carmine flame]

them teeth gonna go crazy

[bronze olive]

Weeheehee!

[umbral spear]

I hope just kiss, not make out?

[winter geode]

secret ending we make out

[umbral spear]

How

[vocal granite]

if you change the name in-game to "dealerkisser" you get that ending

[umbral spear]

He doesn't have a tongue

[bronze olive]

The good ending ^^

[umbral spear]

Or lips

[winter geode]

u dont know that

[manic wyvern]

He got teeth tho

[bronze olive]

^this man thinks you need a lips and tongue to kiss

[manic wyvern]

I bonk into him like a cat

[umbral spear]

U gonna suck he's teeth or smth?

[manic wyvern]

Yes.

[winter geode]

yes

[vernal acorn]

this conversation is creepier than the game

[bronze olive]

Mmmbyes

[bronze olive]

This is extremely Tame for us

[winter geode]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/992093726023360602/1229199858598936626/image0.gif

[bronze olive]

You haven't seen NOTHIN yet

[manic wyvern]

Fake monsterfuckers smh

[vernal acorn]

haha

[bronze olive]

BITING INTO DEALRRS SKULL LIKE AN APPLE

[manic wyvern]

Biting his. But

[winter geode]

still need to draw my self insert 4 buckshot roulette i have a whole idea goin

[wooden birch]

I saw the dealer saw the shotgun and shoot himself, I think the ai has an aneurysm

[winter geode]

he has his moments

[wooden birch]

Got a little silly

[restive canyon]

I really wish the cutscenes made it in

[manic wyvern]

Does the Dealer have that gyatt?

[umbral spear]

Nah

[manic wyvern]

💔

The Dealer was born from one of these

[winter geode]

LMFAOO

NEED TO DRAW THAT so badd

[manic wyvern]

Fetus Dealer crawling out of the test tube goo

[bronze olive]

Omg

Aaww

[manic wyvern]

He has big bulging eyes like a baby bird

And he’s got pink skin and covered in veins

[potent wadi]

only i saw that buckshot rullete as program is named "risk you life"?

[night marsh]

Nah

[manic wyvern]

It was for me too but not on steam

[sour tulip]

I believe the itch.io version does this

Nope, steam does it too

Task Manager:

[frail crane]

okay okay but actually playing spin the bottle with the Dealer tho-

(I'll see myself out)

[leaden ruin]

honestly I love the fact that the player is without a head at the end of the game is partially canon, atleast it was gonna be

I hope we get more animations as game dev goes on

[vocal granite]

https://tenor.com/view/anger-angry-break-gif-19098093

[onyx stream]

Question. That computer in the bathroom. Is that only in the steam version or do you have to do something to unlock it?

[sour tulip]

It's only in the steam version

[onyx stream]

Thank you.

[sour tulip]

And you do have to beat the standard mode first

It's there to keep track of the leaderboards for Double Or Nothing and serve whatever role the arg is

[onyx stream]

Makes sense

[keen vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-blush-kyouko-toshinou-yuru-yuri-gif-5593668

ok, that was clever

[woven wigeon]

WAIT HIS NAME IS CANONICALLY SMOKING GUY?

[tawdry otter]

You see anyone else smoke so much in the club lol

[woven wigeon]

i dont see anyone else in the club!

[keen vortex]

funny, cause crowd was also in the devlog LOL

[woven wigeon]

the crowd challenged the dealer and lost

[tawdry otter]

Ok, I thought the itch.io version would have the computer for the player's personal statistics

[keen vortex]

oshit

u right

[woven wigeon]

BUCKSHOT ROULETTE ICEBERG WHEN!

[leaden ruin]

rn

[tawdry otter]

Now I picture the player in the bathroom scratching their chin in thought as to where the scoreboard will be, and a computer just Kool-Aid Man-ing its way through the mirrors in response

[woven wigeon]

i could make it myself but i have no knowledge on the arg (and i dont plan to cause it isnt my thing)

[hybrid wolf]

ok I have an incredibly wild theory but uh
almost all of Klubnika's works are linked to august 1998 to some degree lmao (except Concrete Tremor)