#Andor Spoilers

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tired brook
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partagaz is given the choice to face conequences (death) or shoot himself

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dedra is the main fuckup here

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and she gets put in prison

rare jolt
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The consequences were likely the same if not worse he took himself out because he still has the choice to go in his own way

tired brook
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if she was explicitly meant to die

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then why not just kill her

rare jolt
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Because it shows the cruelty of the Empire and the irony

tired brook
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while also keeping an open end to the character for the future

rare jolt
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The top dog of the ISB getting sent to the same place Andor was meant to die

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By the same system she was fighting for

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Oh no guys they're totally setting up the Dedra show

tired brook
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you know what filoni is like

rare jolt
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Her last scene was about as close to showing her die without showing her die

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She is at the death prison putting her hands over her face as the lights fade on her

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It's about as basic visual storytelling as you can get

tired brook
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hey remember in 2003 clone wars where anakin knocks ventress off the top of the temple on yavin 4 and we never see her in the show again?

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shes dead right?

rare jolt
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Her not dying here would undo everything the ending of Andor was building up

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They don't need to show her actually dying because the writers have faith that the audience can put basic logic together looks like they were wrong

restive wharf
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I dont think the confirmation of her death is a given but like
There's no purpose to her survival when she's proven herself to lick that boot even right before it kicked her face

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She has next to no redeeming qualities necessitating her survival

tired brook
rare jolt
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From a storytelling pov she is dead

tired brook
rare jolt
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Either way it doesn't matter because they'll just retcon whatever they do in the Manny Both-Hands Andor sequel show

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Absolute legend retconning rebels and the dumb prequel comic

tired brook
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not a retcon if you're not changing the previous material

tired brook
rare jolt
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Rebels bad

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I won

restive ridge
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She stepped onto the floor on the first day

restive ridge
rare jolt
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Now I assume Star wars is going to go downhill again for the next 5 years until we get some random decent project out of nowhere

tired brook
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cringe soy filoni
"I retconned the kanan comic for no reason, there was no reason for kanan to be in this bad batch episode other than I wanted him to be, its all myths and fables and stories anyway!"

chad based gilroy
"yeah I retconned the K2S0 comic, and?"

safe steeple
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how dare a show actually close up loose ends instead of leaving the fates of everyone ambiguous

rare jolt
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Remember when everyone said Filoni was going to retcon the sequels MegO

tired brook
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the filoni vs KK civil war

rare jolt
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Guys it's all KKs fault

restive wharf
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Lucasfilm civil war !!!!!!!!

rare jolt
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It's WAR

safe steeple
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guys... what if... kathleen kennedy is the good guy

tired brook
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me when it turns out the lucasfilm civil war is actually real and KK is the good guy

safe steeple
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darth filoni and his master lord favreau

rare jolt
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Ahsoka season 2 guys!!?

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Star wars saved

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Filoni new president

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Maul show

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Ahsoka season 8

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Clone Wars 2

tired brook
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reminder that if you fell for the clone wars S7 bait, you deserve ahsoka S2

safe steeple
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grogu opens a time portal in the world between worlds and accidentally brings revan to the present with the star forge

rare jolt
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B-but hallway scene soytrooper

restive wharf
# rare jolt It's WAR

War! The Mandoverse is crumbling
under attacks by the ruthless
Sith Lord, Count Kathleen.
There is clickbait on both sides.
Grifters are everywhere.

In a stunning move, the
fiendish Disney leader, General
J.J. , has swept into the
Lucasfilm Studio and kidnapped
Chancellor Filoni, leader of
the Retcon Senate.

rare jolt
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Guys Kathleen Kennedy is retiring!!!!!

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This time trust

tired brook
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hype up and glaze a mediocre clone wars season as the best thing ever
give filoni a massive ego and make lucasfilm thinl he's the one who should be lead creative etc
get ahsokaslop as a result

rare jolt
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Biggest drop in viewership in Star wars history

tired brook
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you made your bed.

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now lie in it.

rare jolt
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Guys look its Anakin look Anakin omg I'm crying

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I clapped I clapped

restive wharf
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I was praying those leaks weren't true

tired brook
tired brook
restive wharf
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Ahsoka while it was coming out

tired brook
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oh i see

alpine plover
alpine plover
dapper musk
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dawg that Theory video deadspun

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hes Sooooooooooo mad

restive wharf
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Which one

primal horizon
alpine plover
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Omg

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He did another video on Andor

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It's about all the troll comments šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

fallen patrol
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BAHAHAHAHA

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"I'm never covering Andor again šŸ‘¶"

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@rare jolt in terms of the dedra conversation, it's meant to be a parallel to kino too. So it's designed to be ambiguous like you say because her story is now defunct. To cover her would be wasted time

tired brook
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restive ridge
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The bell curve goes ā€œTHERE IS A LUCASFILM CIVIL WAR BETWEEN FILONI/FAVREAU AND KATHLEEN KENNEDYā€ to ā€œthere is no Lucasfilm civil war, youā€™re being overdramatic, they all work together to make SWā€ to ā€œthere is a Lucasfilm civil war and Kathleen Kennedy is the heroā€

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cold pebble
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WE ARE THE GHOR

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THE GALAXY IS WATCHING

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WE ARE THE BATTLEFRONT FANS

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THE GAMING WORLD IS WATCHING

runic tendon
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KALKITE

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SYNTHETIC KALKITE

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KALKITE ALTERNATIVES

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KALKITE SUBSTITUTES

restive ridge
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DEEP. SUBSTRATE. FOLIATED. KALKITE

cold pebble
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THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS GRUBBY LITTLE ROCK IS HONESTLY ASTONISHING

restive ridge
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I posted this in #star-wars already but I like how most of the imperial troops in Andor are just regular army troopers or ISB soldiers and stormtroopers are actually treated as elite units

tired brook
primal horizon
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it makes me realize that their facelessness is so powerful for storytelling

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in the movies, not having a face makes them easy cannon fodder so we dont sympathize with them

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but here, it makes them scary and completely uniform, like youā€™re dealing with a brick wall who wonā€™t hesitate to shoot you

restive ridge
alpine plover
rare jolt
digital yoke
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RiP Bozo

mint idol
restive wharf
alpine plover
primal horizon
restive ridge
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ā€œI can excuse murder, torture, slavery, and genocide but I draw the line at saā€

stark falcon
restive wharf
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Alongside bricks and screws

primal horizon
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just realized that all the infighting with the maya pei brigade and saw not wanting to work with anyone else actually reflects the infighting of the star wars fandom about stupid shit like the sequels and rebels

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bravo, gilroy! bravo!

runic tendon
restive ridge
stark falcon
restive ridge
jagged dragon
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Good

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Let his idiocy continue to be put on full display

flat fractal
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He's going to do a full rebrand

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Tbh I think this was a last attempt of engagement because his views were low

restive ridge
flat fractal
restive ridge
stark falcon
digital yoke
tired brook
rare jolt
jade aspen
# digital yoke

I cannot wait to see rebel comander 8 that was in the background for 7 frames in ROTJ make a cameo šŸ˜

livid bane
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Crazy how ghorman was an inside job

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Finally finished andor it was about as good as I thought it would be

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I once again hate the Empire even more now

livid bane
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itā€™s not really unreasonable to assume Dedra is considering suicide at that point considering her boyfriend is dead and any ambitions she had of greatness were crushed basically because she was doing her job

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Idk though

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So they making a Mothma show or what

rare jolt
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Manny Both-Hands is next

cold pebble
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This is one fuck of a good edit for Andor

rare jolt
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was watching a scene again and i have to appreciate how cool it is to see Imperial Senate guards

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feels like one of the smoothest prequel to ot designs

primal horizon
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i mean theyā€™re just army officers with blue shirts

livid bane
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I wish they looked more unique but yeah

midnight thicket
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I think thereā€™s two ways to look at this.

First, out of universe, Andor proves itā€™s not afraid to change visuals of existing things somewhat to fit the themes. The changes in architecture especially within the senate are a great example of this. I think maybe the traditional blue guards were way too extravagant, almost placing more apparent authority into the Senate than would exist by that time. Also, there is a certain uniformity in the upper echelons of the empire that lend to its image, so having a security outfit that doesnā€™t quite fit that would break that conformity which I think is purposeful.

In universe, I think there is good reason to assume there would be a split in the old senate guard as the emperor consolidates power to rearrange them around himself (as the emperors guard), while putting the ever-weakening senate under the protection of the now fully centralized military. Prior to the formation of the GAR, the senate guard was likely prestigious and voluntary (someone could lore check this?) but by the time of the empire they likely had access to far more (and cheaper) security through the military.

livid bane
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yeah idk about alldat I just think it would be cool if they had blue armor instead of black armor or like the Senate logo on their shit or something

sharp yoke
# midnight thicket I think thereā€™s two ways to look at this. First, out of universe, Andor proves ...

You raise some insightful observations about the visual and thematic evolution of the Star Wars universe, particularly in "Andor." The way the series reinterprets elements from the broader franchise really allows for a deeper understanding of the narrative and historical layers at play. Out of universe, I agree that "Andor" makes bold decisions to redefine familiar aesthetics to fit its more grounded themes. The evolution of the Senate's architecture and the guards' uniforms serves as a reflection of the Empire's tightening grip on power. The switch from the extravagant blue guards to a more muted and uniform appearance elegantly underscores how the grandeur of the old Republic is in decline. This visual shift helps convey the message that the Senate, which once held significant power and prestige, is now a mere shadow of its former self, stripped of its authority and bearing the weight of an oppressive regime. In-universe, your point regarding the potential fragmentation of the Senate Guard is quite compelling. As the Emperor consolidates his power, it makes sense that the traditional role of the Senate Guard would diminish, giving way to a more military-oriented security force aligned directly with the Empire's needs. The transition from a prestigious, potentially voluntary guard to a more utilitarian military presence reflects not only the shift in political power but also the changing nature of governance under the Empire. The Galactic Armyā€™s efficiency and larger scale allow for cheaper and more reliable security, which fits the Empire's bureaucratic and centralized military structure. Moreover, considering the lore, the Senate Guard's evolution parallels the broader themes of control and authority present throughout "Andor." The narrative illustrates how institutions adapt to the changing tides of power, portraying a realistic shift in societal norms and security structures within the galaxy.

stark falcon
alpine plover
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I got recommended this Andor edit yesterday. Brilliant work!

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Go give it a watch

rare jolt
fallen patrol
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This is really good, I highly recommend it if you just finished Andor S2 recently

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Takes out some dumb shit like cantina lads and Bor gullet

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Less necessary characterisation like for bodhi

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The rescore is soooo good, edited really well and truly makes a difference in some scenes

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Feels a lot more like Andor & Jyn rather than Jyn & Co

rare jolt
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It's almost like the first 2/3 of Rogue One sucks

midnight thicket
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Iā€™ve yet to go back and rewatch, but Iā€™ve heard the biggest issue is that Andorā€™s actor is so familiar and comfortable with his characters by end of Andor S2 that the less developed character in Rogue One is kinda jarring

safe steeple
dapper musk
restive wharf
tired brook
fallen patrol
alpine plover
primal horizon
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like maybe make the flashbacks occur as cassian meets jyn rather than as we the audience meet her

fallen patrol
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P sure the editing ends up making the S2 ending beats really relevant

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The stuff Gilroy clearly worked backwards from

primal horizon
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oooh gotcha

fallen patrol
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Gotta watch that final "episode" of the edit. It ends right as Jyn tried to convince the council (great build up from S2) and Cassian basically gets the rag tags to join in, people who did terrible things for the rebellion (great buildup from S2)

primal horizon
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just got the edit, i'll probably watch tonight

alpine plover
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I'm currently rewatching Andor. This might be a good alternative to finish since I've watched Rogue One recently.

wheat kestrel
novel storm
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I just finished 2x9 and Gilroy really just said ā€œokay Cassian, thatā€™s enough of that wife (Bix) now hereā€™s your new wife (K-2SO)ā€

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But for real, I enjoy how Bix didnā€™t want to have an adult conversation about Cassianā€™s priorities in life so badly that she up and vanished from her one human connection left in the galaxy forever. Iconic.

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Not one more second of mansplaining, she said, maker I beg of you

fallen patrol
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I might kill myself

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I've been ragebaited

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It worked

restive wharf
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What in the fuck is that description leave Eckharts alone

primal horizon
fallen patrol
primal horizon
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restive wharf
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Dr Doom wannabe

novel storm
# fallen patrol

I hope the rest of that ā€œTony Gilroy Confirmsā€ is ā€œthis is a load of barnaclesā€

fallen patrol
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Wait I just realized that Saw's base in Andor S2 was the same base as the Resistance used

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So Leia used an old rebel base for both planets because the First Order wouldn't know about them

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So Tony Gilroy interacted with the Sequels to make them better

novel storm
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We should all write Gilroy a letter of apology for having to interact with the sequels

fallen patrol
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Gilroy don't care

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He said he likes how Disney has an expanse of content with different genres and tones

jagged dragon
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Very common Gilroy W

novel storm
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He is a wiser man than me

rare jolt
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Isn't it ironic that the quality of the Mandolorian got worse the closer it got to the sequels

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And you all thought they were going to retcon them JabbaLaughedat

novel storm
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I know nothing of the new seasons of Mando other than one scene I saw out of context where he was bullying B2 battle droids

rare jolt
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Good

restive wharf
novel storm
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I watched my screen through the tears sobbing "You leave that little guy alone"

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the little guy was like 7ft tall and made of metal but it was mean regardless

alpine plover
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does anyone know what the name of the music during Dreena's distress call in ep 8 is?

fallen patrol
primal horizon
livid bane
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wheat kestrel
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Synthetic Kalkite

midnight thicket
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Deep. Substrate. Foliated. Kalkite.

digital yoke
restive ridge
wheat kestrel
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wheat kestrel
livid bane
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You know

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Iā€™ve seen a lot of super weapons

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Some good

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Some bad

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I gotta say

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This new one weā€™re developing

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The Death Star

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Beautiful name isnā€™t it, I picked it myself

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Itā€™s a great weapon

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This is the most powerful thing in the galaxy

restive ridge
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And it turns outā€¦āœØspidersāœØare not the most unique thing in Ghorman

livid bane
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Itā€™s beautiful really

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Weā€™re gonna bring so much peace to the galaxy

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Youā€™re gonna get tired of peace

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Thatā€™s something crooked Mon and her rebel lobby wouldnā€™t understand

restive wharf
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THEYRE EATING THE SPIDERS
THEYRE EATING THE LOTHCATS

alpine plover
alpine plover
novel storm
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Palpatine should've stood up at the senate after Mon Mothma's speech on the Ghorman genocide and said "what a NASTY question, absolutely ridiculous, CROOKED MOTHMA strikes again"

flat fractal
fallen patrol
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We have the biggest empire, the best empire really. Such a beautiful community. The Naboo people love me and I love them

primal horizon
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ā€œYou know, Iā€™m originally from Naboo. I am. Not a lot of people know that. They think they know me, they pretend to know me, but they donā€™t. You ask them, ā€œWhere is Lord Palpatine from?ā€ and they say Hosnian Prime, they say Chandrila, they even say Alderaan! But no, Iā€™m from Naboo. Donā€™t let the woke Rebel Alliance make you forget that.ā€

wet bobcat
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Is there any good cameos in this show

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That are worth me starting this show to see

primal horizon
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its just bait its just bait he does this all the time dont give in

wet bobcat
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Iā€™m being real

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livid bane
# wet bobcat Is there any good cameos in this show

So actually Ysanne Isard shows up in one of the episodes played by Tilda Swinton, whoā€™s a very major character in the legends timeline, being Director of Imperial Intelligence, and she even temporarily ruled the Empire after Palpatineā€™s death. In the show sheā€™s a Lieutenant Colonel for Intelligence and has a meeting with Partagaz discussing operations on Ghorman. Thatā€™s her only appearance but Iā€™m sure many fans of the old canon appreciated the appearance

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I think itā€™s a great scene especially because in older lore the ISB and Imperial Intelligence never got along well, and you can see that very clearly in the show when Partagaz and Isard are arguing over Imperial Army troop deployments. Partagaz eventually does win the argument of course, since heā€™s being backed by Director Krennic, but was a very good scene for seeing more of the dysfunction of the Imperial system

wet bobcat
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interesting

novel storm
wet bobcat
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So thatā€™s a no

primal horizon
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this isnt the type of show for cameos

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this is the show you watch if you want to watch a prestige television with amazing dialogue and compelling storytelling

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but itā€™s in star wars

novel storm
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I think Andor got the ugliest cry out of me

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Of any show

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Right at the end

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God what a fucking masterpiece

novel storm
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And can I just say K-2SO waking up Cassian

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Was the most adorable thing Iā€™ve ever witnessed

flat fractal
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Kleya waking up to the sunrise

alpine plover
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the dialogue in this show is peak

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I'm rewatching bits of ep 8

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one line that hits hard is "Silent? We'll be silent when we're dead."

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fkin brilliant writing šŸ‘ šŸ‘ šŸ‘

flat fractal
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I love every luthen scene

alpine plover
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ikr

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every bit of dialogue is so well thought out

flat fractal
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I am an andor glazer šŸ™šŸ™

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And proud

alpine plover
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same

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Andor is boring my ass

flat fractal
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I really hate when people have different opinions

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Andor is peak and I don't wanna hear anything else

alpine plover
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a majority of the people who don't like it just say it's boring

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like be creative with your criticisms at the least

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wow. The ending of episode 8 is something else. I get a bit teary every time.

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and then ep 9 was super tense

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I was supposed to be noting down scenes for an edit when rewatching it yesterday

flat fractal
alpine plover
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and I completely forgot to because I was so caught up in it

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how on earth was that episode an hour?

flat fractal
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And it was

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I'm a genius

flat fractal
alpine plover
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true

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it didn't feel like an hour, though

novel storm
alpine plover
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I wouldn't be surprised

wet bobcat
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When I talked abt the cameos

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Why didnā€™t yā€™all just say director krennic

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I didnā€™t know he was in this

restive wharf
wet bobcat
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Rusty on Star Wars

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And Iā€™m not sure if heā€™s only in season 2

restive wharf
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Only in S2

alpine plover
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he actually has a purpose in the narrative

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primal horizon
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cameos are for minor characters in the narrative

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krennic is important to the story

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meaning heā€™s not a cameo, heā€™s just a character

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thats like saying ā€œluke made a cameo in the last jediā€

wet bobcat
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So is andor s2 about the death star

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Nvm

wheat kestrel
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Who up right now Foliating they Kalkite til they Substrate šŸ˜šŸ˜ˆšŸ’ŽšŸ’ āœØ

midnight thicket
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Not watching Andor is a crime, you will be reported to the nearest Imperial Security Officer as a Rebel sympathizer and promptly sentenced under the Public Order Resentencing Directive.

digital yoke
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digital yoke
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outside agitator

tired brook
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predictions for when an animation show will mention luthen?

alpine plover
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and that's being generous

wide spire
wide spire
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openly weeping in the middle of my workday

dapper musk
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As much as I do like the Andor theme... that "Your Father Would Be Proud" OST hits waaaaay different lol

wheat kestrel
primal horizon
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the children yearn for YTPs

tired brook
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god dammit i was expecting the chair push at the end and it STILL got me

novel storm
wide spire
rare jolt
tired brook
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filoni barely working on animation now

digital yoke
alpine plover
alpine plover
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If that is the video I'm thinking of.

flat fractal
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I saw this on reddit and this might be the worst take on Mon mothma ever

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livid bane
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Remember when Padme and Mon and Bail started planning to fight against Palpatine before the Empire even began

flat fractal
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Which is a bit disappointing

livid bane
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That was?

flat fractal
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I did like it

livid bane
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Fuck

flat fractal
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Yeah sadly

livid bane
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Whatever point still stands

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Mon is only a centrist fencesitter if you compare her to Luthen or Saw

flat fractal
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She was pretending to be Liberal politician

livid bane
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In a way she has a different bravery than either of them, being willing to expose herself to the whims of the Empire for so long

flat fractal
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Yeah she was constantly monitored

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Not just by the isb but by luthen aswell

wheat kestrel
livid bane
flat fractal
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Just never got anywhere really

livid bane
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Her work literally was the bedrock of the Rebel Alliance

flat fractal
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Her work in the senate I mean*

livid bane
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Oh yeah

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Well she knew it was rigged

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Itā€™s part of the act

flat fractal
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Yeah palpatine had total control

livid bane
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Saw, Andor, Draven, Leia, Luke, Han, Chewie, the Ghost Crew; none of them ever get past their little fronts of rebellion and unite without her

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Luthen too

flat fractal
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She was a good leader with actual political expertise

tired brook
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she also blew a guy up once

flat fractal
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He probably deserved it

livid bane
tired brook
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mask of fear

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also the explosion was like, right next to her

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so she had to get her stomach replaced

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(not making this up)

livid bane
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wtf when was that

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Oh right at the start of the Empire

fallen patrol
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Just crying wife status

novel storm
fallen patrol
novel storm
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I think George was trying to get sympathy points and show how evil Anakin was now by "Oh god oh jeebs he's choking a defenseless woman and then DIES of a broken heart" but it's just bad character writing

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That entire sequence is a nightmare

fallen patrol
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Nah it's because he filmed way too much stuff as he had to fit it all in the last movie instead of actually properly pacing out the timeline with better planning

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ROTS has an insane amount of stuff on the cutting room floor

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PTSD to people asking for the 4 hour ROTS cut

novel storm
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He cut out Kenobi and Grievous's wedding and only kept their engagement, worst movie of the series

livid bane
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I mean a 4 hour ROTS director cut would be pretty crazy

fallen patrol
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Insane even

wheat kestrel
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I just realized something does Cassian and Deedra ever meet in the show?

restive wharf
flat fractal
wheat kestrel
flat fractal
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I guess the two characters can't really meet

primal horizon
novel storm
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Good news everyone, my parents, who are usually so uninterested in TV that they look at their phones the whole time, are now hooked after the first three episodes of Andor

alpine plover
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Awesome

digital yoke
alpine plover
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I think my parents were hooked from the start

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Episodes 1-3 are more like usual TV

rare jolt
digital yoke
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for sure

fallen patrol
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I still enjoyed it plenty and didn't shit my diaper with worry, but I will still admit it's the weakest 3 episodes arc in the show

alpine plover
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Definitely

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The conclusion in ep 3 didn't feel as earned as last season.

fallen patrol
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I'm not a big fan of the first 3 episodes arc in Andor either tbh

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It absolutely pales in comparison to the rest of the season

novel storm
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I genuinely hated being around those bickering rebels in the jungle, and you never want your audience to be groaning "Oh my GODDD get him OUT OF THERE ALREADY"

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First arc of season 2 does get one point from me with Cassian immediately crashing the ship into the wall

fallen patrol
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It did a lot to make Andor competent enough to be in a captain role

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I would've felt that promotion was rushed without out

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He made the most dogshit useless rebels in to his personal tool for winning his situation

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P badass

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Andor always seemed like too much of a lone wolf to do this kinda thing

flat fractal
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I understand the point of the arc but the execution wasn't great

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Mostly the tonal change

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Although everything else was great

novel storm
primal horizon
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ya i think the maya pei brigade stuff should have been one maybe two episodes

novel storm
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It's also made worse by the fact that we know Cassian is gonna make it out of this alive no matter what

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If somebody else was WITH Cassian we would have some higher stakes

primal horizon
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yep

safe steeple
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maybe if Porko was still alive?

novel storm
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RIP Porko, never got to see him once and has the best name in the series

primal horizon
primal horizon
novel storm
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I think they could've tweaked the mission to include Wilmon with Cassian, the boy doesn't have that much going on in Mina-Rau other than a two minute romance and actively impeding the rest of the cast

alpine plover
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Oh no

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Theory posted an Andor review

novel storm
livid bane
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Didnā€™t cuh say he was done with andor

restive wharf
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Its like the green goblin mask

fallen patrol
primal horizon
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at this point is it just engagement bait or are they actually his opinions

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like ofc part of it is for engagement

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but i do wonder if theyre based on his honest opinions or if he actually secretly likes it

safe steeple
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he thought episodes 1-6 were "too slow and boring" and told people to skip them

novel storm
primal horizon
rare jolt
digital yoke
digital yoke
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like I understand what they were trying to do and why they made ig creative/directorial choices they did but it def felt to me like a step down from the rest of the show

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also a personal nit pick of mine
the TIE escape sequence was a little too cliche and it felt like the bit went on just a little too long
idk maybe thatā€™s just me

rare jolt
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It didn't add anything to the character of Andor that wasn't already established and was used as filler that accounted to nothing

fallen patrol
flat fractal
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Shame because the entire scene before that was gold

rare jolt
novel storm
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then at the end he went up so

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Did they ever give an explanation for why the ship wasn't what he was trained for or was it just a planning error

primal horizon
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and all tie fighters have the same controls so why would this one be any different

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except it was

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its like being told to steal a car then you get in and thereā€™s no steering wheel, thereā€™s a trackpad

fallen patrol
safe steeple
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TIE Avenger being derived from the TIE Advanced and ultimately Vader's TIE Fighter

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i like to think this specific avenger may have been commissioned by Vader himself, after giving certain specifications to Sienar

novel storm
safe steeple
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his one unique TIE from a new hope

novel storm
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ā€œBut lord Vader the motion controls are confusing and unnecessaryā€
ā€œSay that again and Iā€™m crushing your windpipe with my mindā€

novel storm
primal horizon
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looking at the controls they seem somewhat similar to the umbaran starfighters

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vaderā€™s tie was pretty basic controls

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avengerā€™s are completely different from everything except, again, umbaran tech

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i also saw a video (i think by eckharts ladder maybe?) about how the avenger just had so much weaponry (rockets, missiles, gatling guns, big ahh laser) that it might have literally just been sienarā€™s weapons platform. like the avenger was never meant to go into production, it was just a proof of concept

primal horizon
novel storm
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Or his kids, one for each

fallen patrol
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So palpatine can have his annual performance review

alpine plover
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I'm thinking of making a couple of video edits on the latter half of Andor season 2. Does anyone have any ideas of songs/music that would work for those episodes?

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So far I've thought of Time by Hans Zimmer, Seven Nation Army, Viva La Vida, I'm Still Standing by Taron Edgerton, and Lovely by Billie Eilish.

tired brook
flat fractal
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r/andor has such terrible opinions that I swear it's a shitposting sub

jagged dragon
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First rule of any Star Wars subreddit, never listen to a single person

digital yoke
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amen

restive wharf
livid bane
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Iā€™m not gonna say you canā€™t draw easy parallels between the show and socialist revolutions in history but you can literally do that with every fuckin revolutionary movement in history

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Short of reactionary uprisings I guess

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ā€œThe rebels are socialists and the Empire is (insert whoever the fuck)ā€ feels like the same take that dumbass republicans have when theyā€™re like ā€œoh well the liberals are the stormtroopers and weā€™re the rebel allianceā€

flat fractal
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Yeah the show isn't very Marxist

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It doesn't touch on economic issues much

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It does touch on class

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And yeah people are only really saying that because he took inspiration on rebellions that were socialist

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But wow all the takes on mon mothma are abysmal

livid bane
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I saw this guy say ā€œoh sheā€™s so fucking spoiled bro sheā€™s not doing anything for the rebellion and sheā€™s such a coward she doesnā€™t know what real rebellion requires, look at how afraid she was when Andor shot people in front of herā€

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like dude words fucking matter in war

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The NARRATIVE matters, I guess I should say

flat fractal
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Rebellions mean shooting people and nothing else

livid bane
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If you let the Empire control the narrative then whenever the Rebellion takes over everyone fears them

flat fractal
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I don't think people realise that she chose to sacrifice the life she had rather than other people who were forced to be in the Rebellion because of the empire

livid bane
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Anyone paying attention to galactic politics can see that Mon Mothma spent her enter career trying desperately to stem Imperial oppression via legal means before Ghorman

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literally 15 to 20 years

zinc moon
livid bane
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Weird to say but ā€œHype moments and auraā€ are a genuine tool for recruitment lmfao

flat fractal
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Have you seen those military girl thirst trap recruitment videos

livid bane
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anyone rebel minded is gonna be like ā€œDamn Mon Mothma risked being arrested to say ā€˜The Emperor is evil fight himā€™ before leaving, thatā€™s braveā€™ā€

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Yeah Haylujan

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sheā€™s a psyop specialist

flat fractal
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Us recruitment propaganda is crazy

livid bane
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Reservist but still

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Propaganda is a fire tool

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Very obviously

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I mean the Empire are experts at propaganda wars

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thatā€™s why so much of the galaxy can swallow Ghorman

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And however many other genocides that undoubtedly happened

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Eedy Karn is like, the prime example

flat fractal
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I really loved how they used eedy karn as an insight to emperial propaganda without confusing the narrative

livid bane
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Yeah dude she just sounds like a fuckin boomer that listens to right wing pages on Facebook

flat fractal
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I love her character so much

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She's written so spot on

livid bane
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Not to mention sheā€™s dumping who knows how many credits into the rebellion

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Mon not Karn

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Eedy got that Umbridge aura fr

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also whoever wrote ā€œmon is a cowardā€ dude youā€™re a fucking normal guy Iā€™m positive you would also be shitting bricks if the government was coming to END YOU SPECIFICALLY and the one guy thatā€™s ensuring your safety is shooting people in your defense. Gunfights are scary

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It would be fucking weird if Mon was cool and collected like Andor considering itā€™s probably the first time sheā€™s in real physical danger like that

jagged dragon
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Seriously

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Sheā€™s a politician, not a soldier

tired brook
livid bane
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naaaaah

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Yeah

alpine plover
jagged dragon
flat fractal
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"Mon mothna never hand to get her hands dirty"

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Even tho she had to marry of her daughter to fund the rebellion

restive ridge
flat fractal
fallen patrol
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Episode 1-3 of S2 good

flat fractal
primal horizon
safe steeple
jagged dragon
fallen patrol
alpine plover
flat fractal
primal horizon
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what account

primal horizon
digital yoke
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lol

alpine plover
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Apparently they were just cutting "the ISB" for "the eye"

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Most of the time

flat fractal
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Must've watched the show while scrolling on tiktok

midnight thicket
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Even if some people on r/andor have shallow takes, I still appreciate that it has so many people thinking. It's just a really good piece of media; has people talking about it and more in a reflective way that many other pieces of Star wars media could only dream

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I think I saw a repost though about someone saying that senators like Mon Mothma were the reason that the Empire was able to form. That is straight up a bad take

flat fractal
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But everything people say about Mon mothma is just terrible

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I do understand all of her scenes are very dialogue heavy

primal horizon
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got my mom into andor

fallen patrol
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Me too

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I have to keep her up to date on little tidbits of info but she's absolutely sold on it tbh

jade aspen
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He is not ready for e8

primal horizon
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i didnt need to get my dad into it

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he hasnt finished it yet, think he's on s2ep4?

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he says that every time they go to a new planet he likes to pause and just absorb the sets and scenery

flat fractal
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My dad watches all the star wars shows

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He got me into andor

jade aspen
flat fractal
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I'm so sorry

fallen patrol
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That's why I had never shown it to my dad

wide spire
primal horizon
wet bobcat
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Donā€™t think Iā€™ve ever heard so many British accents before in Star Wars

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So far so good

rare jolt
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We are never getting another Star Wars project with this level of quality again

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Hope you are excited for Ahsoka season 2

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Or Mandolorian movie

tired brook
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or maul tv show

fallen patrol
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Episode 1-3 of S2 good

primal horizon
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i'm excited for the maul show

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obviously wont be as prestige as andor

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but sam witwer wont let it be slop

alpine plover
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Fs

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And it doesn't have Filoni on it

wet bobcat
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Does the deputy inspector guy who was the one pushing to look for andor appear in this show constantly or does he eventually go away

fallen patrol
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He has a strong presence throughout

primal horizon
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but if you think heā€™s insufferable he gets better

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one of the best characters imo

alpine plover
#

yeah

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he is a surprisingly good character

wet bobcat
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Alright

fallen patrol
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Good wrap up for the character tho

flat fractal
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I don't believe the syril is an incel archetype propaganda

primal horizon
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heā€™s an ROTC kid

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he thinks heā€™s the main character

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the problem is heā€™s fighting for the wrong side

fallen patrol
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  • he literally choked a bitch
flat fractal
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He's a subversion of the nice guy trope

fallen patrol
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Omg there was others like me??

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Beautiful

tired brook
digital yoke
fallen patrol
wet bobcat
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Didnā€™t expect andor to kill skeen just like that

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Wild

flat fractal
fallen patrol
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Sorry dude

flat fractal
fallen patrol
flat fractal
#

Enjoy your negative karma

fallen patrol
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I will

wet bobcat
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On S1x8 and this is already better than ahsoka kenobi rebels bobf

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Idk about mando s1 tho

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We need more tv shows showing Star Wars in this type of way

fallen patrol
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I don't know whether I'm excited you finally see it or fucking exhausted you fought us so hard on exactly what we told you

flat fractal
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Don't think you should be exhausted from arguing with people on discord

fallen patrol
midnight thicket
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Every time I try to catch up on any Star Wars media (Obi Wan, Ashoka, Acolyte) and I just canā€™t because every minute makes me miss Andor šŸ˜”

fallen patrol
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I've been rewatching TCW when I'm with my cousin (his first time) and acolyte (also his first time). It's very refreshing "rewatching for the first time" through someone else

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Especially refreshing that he actually has a brain when watching acolyte too

alpine plover
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That's cool

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What are his takes on those shows so far?

fallen patrol
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He's enjoying it for sure, he's on a lot of the high republic comic stuff (massive comic nerd) so it slots right in

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He's so much more open to actually letting the show play out too. Like he went to complain that the wookiee jedi didn't have robes on but then was like "well actually when we saw him, he was in what looked like a hide out so maybe he got rid of them"

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I was flabbergasted to hear him ready to let the show explain itself... Almost like it's a fkn mystery show

alpine plover
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Lol

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Wait when did the Wookie not have robes?

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Was that in the present day time

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Around ep 4/5

fallen patrol
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Nah he's not that far yet

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I think it was a glimpse he saw

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Don't remember, just remember the surprise from him being ready to accept things

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I'm not even bringing up ANY of the common "criticisms" of lore to see if he picks up on any of it but I know for a fact he won't because they're regurgitated crap

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https://youtu.be/_TDQI0DOeqs
Also on the channel topic, I'm watching this rn šŸæ

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'Andor' Star Diego Luna and Creator Tony Gilroy share the behind-the-scenes process for bringing Ghorman to life.

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ā–¶ Play video
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Omg I just realized that when the ghorman kid crashes in to the security droid to save Andor...
That means the force decided ||Cinta had to die|| for the kid to be in the headspace to want to save so badly

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RAGHHHH I LOVE AMBIGUOUS FORCE MOTIVES HIDDEN IN SUBTEXT

dapper musk
alpine plover
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just searching edit audios wouldn't give me the right sort of tones of songs

wheat kestrel
wheat kestrel
fallen patrol
#

Episode 1-3 of S2 good

wet bobcat
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Which season is more generally liked by people

wet bobcat
#

S1 seems better so far

alpine plover
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Not sure tbh

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The first arc of s2 is generally considered worse than s1

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But the last two arcs are considered some of, if not the best of the show.

primal horizon
#

season 1

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prison arc is unbeatable

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the monologues are excellent throughout the season

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and the music is better

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season 2 is great but 1 is better

brave stone
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Starting s2 e1 right now letā€™s go

restive wharf
brave stone
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This show is visually stunning

restive ridge
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Invading Iran Ghorman to access their oil kalkite reserves

brave stone
#

Does Dedra and cereal hook up?

restive ridge
stark falcon
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Canā€™t tell if that was intentional or not lmao

brave stone
brave stone
stark falcon
brave stone
#

That bozo who tried to assault Bix was pathetic lmao

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When he came out of the hut and fell and smacked his head I fucking died

alpine plover
#

he fkin died

brave stone
#

In the funniest fashion

stark falcon
#

Still rightfully deserved ngl

brave stone
#

Absofruitley

fallen patrol
stark falcon
#

What is this dribble

brave stone
#

ā€œIdkā€

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Correct

jagged dragon
primal horizon
# fallen patrol

ā€œnobody cares that two completely different people are experiencing two completely different thingsā€

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they are different people, but what matters is how theyre the same

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and how their situations are similar but different

flat fractal
alpine plover
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I'll give him the sister argument, though.

flat fractal
#

I don't

jagged dragon
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Yeah no the big point behind his sister never being mentioned or seen ever again until the very end is kinda the whole point

alpine plover
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What did Gilroy say about it?

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I remember him commenting on this topic

zinc moon
primal horizon
#

so based

fallen patrol
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Wait

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That's my sisters name

fallen patrol
# alpine plover I'll give him the sister argument, though.

He made a minor point and stretched it out to dangerously thin levels. Like maarva said, stop looking for her because that whole planet died after their left. Nobody is alive. Plus S2 made it about the things that tie Andor to his fight for the cause. He needs these people looming over him like a bad nightmare so he can actually do what the force has set out for him to do

alpine plover
#

damn

fallen patrol
wet bobcat
#

Syril dead

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Finally

fallen patrol
#

Damn bro caught up fast

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Almost like it's gripping or some shit

stark falcon
#

Heā€™s seen the light

midnight thicket
#

He has friends everywhere now

wheat kestrel
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So just on that notion season is automatically better despite the other issues I have with season 2

restive ridge
#

Personally I think the whole Ghorman plot line tops the prison break if only because itā€™s built up so well and the payoff is perfect

midnight thicket
#

Disagreeing over which season is better is a good problem to have when both seasons are peak television

wet bobcat
#

I hope the next live action show is as good

flat fractal
#

Do we know what the next one is

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We know about ahsoka season 2

wet bobcat
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Iā€™m not caught up so I have no clue

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I donā€™t even want Ashoka s2

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We need to move away from the kenobi ahsoka slop type tv shows

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I wouldnā€™t mind another original character

flat fractal
#

Maybe they are moving back to animation

wet bobcat
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All I remember is the maul animated show

primal horizon
#

b2emo ahh building

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digital yoke
alpine plover
#

Lol

fallen patrol
#

Episode 1-3 of S2 good

safe steeple
restive ridge
#

Its good but itā€™s not as good as the later stuff

fallen patrol
#

I just got told I was spouting lies for saying the reason ISB building and Narkina Prison are so sterile clean is because they're inspired heavily by George Lucas' first film THX...

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BRUDDA ITS RIGHT THERE

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alpine plover
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Ok who tf can't see the similarities??

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Actually no

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Who is being blind enough to deny it when the proof is right there.

wide spire
fallen patrol
alpine plover
#

Good

midnight thicket
fallen patrol
#

I watched S2 E3 with my mum today

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Almost cried over brasso again

flat fractal
fallen patrol
#

The first two episodes were very stressful for her too

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The episodes flew in for her because it was so tense

flat fractal
#

They really captured feeling like you're in the moment

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Rather than watching something that you feel like already happened

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Which most prequel media feels like

fallen patrol
#

Reallll

digital yoke
#

I hate that he didnā€™t get a proper goodbye with anyone
but ig thatā€™s the point
life be like

jagged dragon
#

Itā€™s insane how many homie side characters we lost earlier this year, Brasso, Foggy, Rexsplodeā€¦

digital yoke
#

rael

primal horizon
jagged dragon
#

I think it is a just a play on words silly skele

alpine plover
#

Rael

primal horizon
#

oopsies šŸ¤­

fallen patrol
#

Luthen so Rael

flat fractal
#

The shade šŸ˜­

dapper musk
fallen patrol
#

My mother guessed correctly who Bail Organa was despite this being the first time his recast appears

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I'm unfathomably proud

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"is that the guy who raises one of the twins" unprompted

stark falcon
fallen patrol
#

Episode 1-3 of S2 good

alpine plover
#

Nah

runic tendon
#

All bad because no ahsoka

restive ridge
#

Dave get back to work

fallen patrol
#

Episode 1-3 of S2 good

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Also my mum and I just finished the show, she had compared how gripping it was to Breaking Bad which is a massive W in my book

runic tendon
#

Spamming

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Bannedā€¦