Andor Spoilers

[tired brook]

KX units in other media
"haha look its the imperial droid, its a bit goofy but tough!"

KX droids in andor:

https://tenor.com/view/iron-golem-rotoscoped-steve-minecraft-gif-13509011360441235515

[restive wharf]

I audibly went "GODDAMN"

[restive wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/golem-attack-gif-26567923

Holy IMDB rating

[rare jolt]

They did it they managed to do that entire Mon Mothma without referencing rebels

https://tenor.com/view/we-did-it-gif-6236810

[tired brook]

https://tenor.com/view/based-uh-hello-based-department-based-department-american-psycho-patrick-bateman-gif-22458382

[rare jolt]

Peakdor has landed

I thought this was the finale but apparently there's 3 more episodes according to Google

[primal horizon]

YES THERE ARE

GRAHHHHH

in 1bby

cant wait for andor with k2so

[restive wharf]

Only 3 eps with the GOAT we'll need to savor them

[upper coyote]

Aren’t these the last episodes too?

The next three I mean

Sad times that Peakdor will not return

[rare jolt]

Yes

[jagged dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/its-peak-old-man-shaking-head-gif-3938163323164042530

Imperial security droids for no reason in this show:

https://tenor.com/view/sealyx-transformers-one-megatron-d-16-d16-gif-10054692361717371271

[tired brook]

no

[rare jolt]

Unbelievably based

[safe steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/662796126516150297/1369703116001513512/Screen_Recording_20250507_172503_HDO_Box_1_1_1.mp4?ex=681cd2ee&is=681b816e&hm=0ca3f356ebaa430267dc4db7911b444e75de3ef7e6e1a0d19033645bf1eaa115&

[primal horizon]

HAHAHA

reminds me of the trooper bumping his head gag

[flat fractal]

Ending the episode with that was perfect

I was thinking to myself that if I syril dies this episode we need to see her reaction at the end

[flat fractal]

Yeah I rewatched that speech the other day and it was

Terrible

[jade aspen]

Peak derserves peak

[tired brook]

reasons why an andor episode gets rated highly:

masterclass in writing, acting, cinematography, direction etc

reasons why an ahsoka episode gets rated highly

"anakin showed up"

[rare jolt]

https://youtu.be/OfJRm0WssOE?si=btWhligSbsJfm8pE

[tired brook]

https://tenor.com/view/i-clapped-because-i-know-star-wars-jay-bauman-gif-24545481

[dapper musk]

AT-ST AT-ST AT-ST AT-ST AT-ST

[open kiln]

fr

Syril

[primal horizon]

how did i not realize until the end of the episode that the reason k2so can talk and is quirky and has a british accent is because they literally swapped his brain with a protocol droid's

[wheat kestrel]

Anyone else disappointed Cyril died and the relationship powe couple things with Deedra is over?

Really thought that their dysfunctional relationship was entertaining

[onyx trout]

They're both terrible people but I did enjoy watching them make each other worse

But I don't love them showing a man choking his female partner and making it seem justified

At least he got his soul shattered and then got shot in the head that was neat

Maaaaaan when they showed the imperial sniper just popping off civilians one after the other I was like "haha that's just like me in battlefront" 💀

[flat fractal]

Before that he pushed that old man on the ground afterwards he attacked and choked and attacked cassian

I don't think they made it seem justified

[jagged dragon]

Yeah I feel like they were trying to establish he was at a breaking point and crashing out

So much so that when he saw Cassian he went into a blind rage despite Cassian not being involved in his life for a few years now

[flat fractal]

I agree

[sharp yoke]

i think it was crashing out but also primarily because he genuinely believes in justice and to him andor is still a criminal, and technically he’s right

[tired brook]

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-billions-billions-must-millions-millions-must-gif-16196772132364004468

"duel of the fates!"
"obi-wan vs anakin!"
"maul vs ahsoka!"

https://tenor.com/view/klappende-drake-clap-stand-up-applause-gif-16706975

syril vs andor fistfight

[jagged dragon]

Unironically the rawest fight scene from Star Wars in a very long time

[digital yoke]

true

[onyx trout]

Yeah that's true

[sharp yoke]

better than the sequel lightsaber duels

[restive ridge]

Fuck

Syril…

My favorite mall cop psychopath

I feel like they were subtly making fun of Rebels with the “they need to rewrite the story” line

[primal horizon]

i mean it is a kid's show can you really blame them

[restive ridge]

I was wondering how they were gonna tie it in

It’s funny to think that Rebels is going on in the background

But thats Star Wars for you I guess

I kinda wanna rewatch that episode of rebels but I know better than to watch any other SW after Andor

[primal horizon]

i did

wasnt that eventful

mon doesnt do much

[restive ridge]

The speech in Andor is 500x better than the one in Rebels I know

[primal horizon]

first third of the episode is the rebels fighting some assassin droid in space

second third is a dogfight

[restive ridge]

The Andor writers know how to write a speech

They’re incredible at that

[primal horizon]

third is actually where mon comes in and gives the speech that starts the civil war

[restive ridge]

Calling Palpatine a genocidal dictator on C-SPAN was insane

I loved that whole speech

The reason she has to do a second speech is that nobody watches C-SPAN

K2 MY GOAT

HES HERE

FUCK YES

CINEMA

I’m never gonna be able to watch Star Wars again dude

[rare jolt]

They just straight up retcon rebels as Mon Mothma immediately gets picked up by gold squadron instead of Scooby Doo gang

[restive ridge]

I think she was gonna get picked up but something went wrong on the way there iirc

I don’t really wanna rewatch to make sure

[rare jolt]

The fact they retcon the speech is all I need to see

[primal horizon]

basically the reason hera ezra zeb and chopper are even there is cause gold squadron transporting mon needs to refuel

and phoenix has the fuel for them

[restive ridge]

The Andor speech completely destroys the Rebels speech but that’s to be expected

The Rebels speech is just a shittier version of the Andor one

[primal horizon]

the only thing they 100% retconned was the speech we see on the holonet in rebels

[rare jolt]

Its pretty funny as Filoni has constantly retconned other canon material

[restive ridge]

Good

[restive wharf]

Return to sender

[restive ridge]

I’m of the opinion that retcons are awesome but only if the retcon is cooler than the thing it replaced

Hence Andor

[primal horizon]

did they retcon any of dark disciple with totu

[rare jolt]

I can't tell you how big of a W it is that Peakdor completely retcons and ignore Rebels

[primal horizon]

ive never read it

[restive wharf]

From what I know

The start of episode 1 is 1:1 with Dark Disciple's ending

Or at least it's similar enough

[primal horizon]

gotcha

[restive wharf]

Don't fuck with us star wars fans we don't actually read the source material

[primal horizon]

so real

[rare jolt]

Remember the Ahsoka novel that Filoni decided to completely ignore

[restive wharf]

It doesn't?

[rare jolt]

It does

[restive wharf]

Only really like the speech

[rare jolt]

Yeah the entire point

Let's do that episode but instead of rebels it happens at the Senate with Andor

[restive ridge]

Yknow the funniest part about Andor is that it’ll get Star Wars fans to say “Episode 8 is the best”

[primal horizon]

andor gets her to the safehouse and then from there she goes with gold squadron to dantooine

[rare jolt]

Yup no sign of cartoon characters

[primal horizon]

where they meet up with phoenix cell

[restive ridge]

They’ll have the ghost in background shots in the next 3 episodes and I’m gonna be slightly annoyed every time I see it

[primal horizon]

i dont think its a problem to acknowledge rebels' existence

[restive wharf]

Bring out the Chopper prop

[primal horizon]

why are yall hating so much

[rare jolt]

What did you expect

[primal horizon]

youre right

yall are star wars fans

[zinc moon]

The dialogue is different in the Tales short I think but that's about it

[primal horizon]

i need to lower my expectations to none

[rare jolt]

Thank goodness they didn't tie themselves down to a terrible show

[restive ridge]

Syril holy shit

[rare jolt]

I liked how Mon Mothma reacted to the violence the results from it

[restive ridge]

He really was a psycho bless his heart

I was not expecting him to choke Dedra like that

That genuinely shocked me

[primal horizon]

where is Manny Bothans

[restive ridge]

I forgot he was batshit

[primal horizon]

he dies to get them the information about the death star

[rare jolt]

When Andor just kills her driver even though she knows he's an ISB agent she is pretty shocked and disgusted that Andor just murders him

[restive ridge]

That’s ROTJ

[rare jolt]

Like it's nothing

[restive wharf]

Dedra was fucking shook

[primal horizon]

actually where are Tag and Bink please make them canon

[rare jolt]

That was something hinted with Bix I was really interested in the story fleshing out that went nowhere is that even though they're fighting the Empire they still have second thoughts about killing people

Mon Mothma knew her driver was an agent but certainly didn't want him just outright killed

Shows she's a good person at heart

[wheat kestrel]

I was disappointed it looked they were turning him into a good guy

At least that's how it felt

[restive ridge]

I think it’s more he’s realizing that he was a pawn all along for the ISB when he thought he was the one playing the game

If that makes sense

He’s not mad they’re doing this to the Ghor as much as he’s mad he was kept in the dark about it

[wheat kestrel]

I thought it was both cuz they kept focusing on him looking at all the chaos and the imperials setting up their trap

[restive ridge]

He probably feels some sympathy but it’s mostly about the betrayal from the people he thought he could trust

[wheat kestrel]

Also disappointed his relationship with Deedra ended so fast but I think it was because we were supposed to get multiple seasons there a lot of things in this show that just happen with little to no pay off

We had 3 whole ass episodes focused on that fucking wedding and we don't even get to see the reaction from Mothmas husband or daughter about the rebel stuff

If I remember correctly you don't even see them after those first 3 episodes so what was the fucking point of dedicating 3 whole ass episodes for Mothas wedding stuff just for the show to forget her family exists 🤔???

[flat fractal]

It was cut

They had a scene written

[tired brook]

I have depicted you as the shocked and Horrified Mon Mothma and myself as the cool and ever stoic Cassian Andor

[runic tendon]

I'm halfway through season 2 episode 1 and why is it so mid

[flat fractal]

Its a slow season start

[fallen patrol]

I am reading nothing yet but I just finished episode 8 and I need a fucking smoke

Maybe an opium addiction

I am legally required to watch episode 9 now, nothing else matters

[tired brook]

https://tenor.com/view/mon-mothma-andor-letterboxd-gif-7271074114648716522

[tired brook]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tlatelolco_massacre

The Mexican government and media claimed that the Armed Forces had been provoked by protesters shooting at them
A 2001 investigation revealed documents showing that the snipers were members of the Presidential Guard, who were instructed to fire on the military forces in order to provoke them

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-writing-fire-his-writing-is-fire-is-this-fire-hold-up-gif-15400153686296022809

[rare jolt]

First 3 episodes suck the rest is good

[tired brook]

basically meme templates

[runic tendon]

Are you fucking kidding me?

They're playing rock paper scissors...

This is so unbelievably bad

[tired brook]

its peak

remember back in the 2020 period where there was supposed to be a "lucasfilm civil war" between filoni and favearu, vs kathleen kennedy

[flat fractal]

What

[tired brook]

and the only civil war now is andor fans vs filoni fans

[flat fractal]

This show is much better when you avoid spoilers

[restive wharf]

Many people were in absolute delulu mode over the state of lucasfilm when Mandos Season 1 and 2 were coming out

[runic tendon]

I'm just putting my reactions here after watching episodes

[restive wharf]

Claiming there was a Schsim in Lucasfilm between the Wokes and Filoni

[flat fractal]

Oh

People make up fantasies in their head

So wholesome chungus

[restive wharf]

OH WAIT

It gets better

These imbeciles actually thought

That Filoni was going to retcon the sequels

[rare jolt]

Believe it or not people will tell you that it's good

[fallen patrol]

BIXXXX NOOOOOOO

[fallen patrol]

Hey at least it wasn't pointless like you said. It was exactly what I said it might exist for, to show how effective of a leader Cassian is and how much of a joke the rebels outcasts were before the unification

(still cheesy but not pointless)

[rare jolt]

Both things that are already established

So yes pointless

[restive wharf]

Here we go again

[rare jolt]

Guys guys Yavin 4 stuff will totally be fleshed out later guys trust

[tired brook]

https://tenor.com/view/i-cant-take-this-no-more-i-can't-do-this-shit-no-more-i-just-can't-do-it-wingsofredemption-gif-10533769048112567799

[rare jolt]

Andor is good but denying the bad writing moments is cult behavior

[fallen patrol]

How did I know you'd still cry

It's that ez

King of (lacking) nuance

[rare jolt]

Not the nuance 😭

[fallen patrol]

Anyway Cyril getting obliterated was fucking perfect. I'm glad I was right to be suspicious of them turning his character around

The second I start to respect his character, he gets humiliated by Cassian and then his brains blown out

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379681647592734720/1352232693642821652/image0.gif

(I was also right about pro incel propaganda cuz damn I was rooting for him finally growing some nuts man)

[rare jolt]

I mean if you found out your girlfriend and government was basically space hitler after believing for years you were doing the right thing I think he was perfectly justified in crashing out on Dedra

[fallen patrol]

Yeah that's my point

I'm now rooting for the incel choking a bitch lmao

[rare jolt]

100% justified

[fallen patrol]

He still saved her in the end too

That's insane

[rare jolt]

Should have killed her instead of going red on Cassian

[fallen patrol]

Simp until the end

Truly alpha male soyboy behaviour

[rare jolt]

No he attacked Cassian because he believes that he is the progenitor of all the bad stuff happening

[fallen patrol]

Both

Cool to get interpretation though

[rare jolt]

I don't think he cared at all about Dedra in the end

[fallen patrol]

Star wars doesn't usually have that lol

[rare jolt]

He had no idea there was a hit on her

Just saw Cassian and went beserk

[fallen patrol]

Oh and the bail recast worked out in the end, glad I held my tongue

Bro is an amazing smart bail

[rare jolt]

I don't think anybody really cared about the recast

[fallen patrol]

Plenty definitely did from what I heard

It was even planned for by gilroy

Short cameo to get it out of the way

[rare jolt]

I heard people got upset but I never personally saw or read anybody getting upset

Like I did with other stuff

[fallen patrol]

You're right, Gilroy planned it for no reason at all

Probably insane

[rare jolt]

I didn't say that

I think they planned for it but I don't think it was a problem like they thought it would have been

[fallen patrol]

Ok

[rare jolt]

It's nowhere close to any of the other complaints

Like SA or Yavin 4 arc or anything like that

[fallen patrol]

👍

Oh and what the fuck was that member berry with the blaster

Was I meant to wojak at that

[rare jolt]

Which part

[fallen patrol]

Fuckin nerdy ass Rogue one cameo I think

[fallen patrol]

Exactly

[rare jolt]

Are you talking about weird white alien yeti thing

[fallen patrol]

The rebel girl who lost her lover picked up a blaster and some member berry bombastic tune played and there's a dude I faintly recognised

"that's my blaster ☝️🤓"

[rare jolt]

Idk

[fallen patrol]

Now THAT is a shit cameo

[rare jolt]

Was that a rogue one character or something

[fallen patrol]

I think so

One of the random soldiers people wojaked at

[rare jolt]

Tbf nobody remembers the first 2/3rds of that movie anyway

[fallen patrol]

I do

It has bodhi in it

[rare jolt]

Congratulations

[fallen patrol]

Thank you I enjoy it very much

[rare jolt]

Oh wait

I think the blaster had an emblem on it or something she wiped dirt off of

Maybe he was from ghorm

Idk

[tired brook]

its syril's from season 1

[rare jolt]

Huh

[tired brook]

cassian took it off him when escaping ferrix, hid it on niamos, got jailed and then escaped with melshi, and gave it to melshi on niamos

[fallen patrol]

🤷‍♂️

All I got was a symbol and an ost jingle

Makes me wonder why people complained about other relevant member berries so much

[rare jolt]

So how did this random guy get it

[fallen patrol]

cough Yavin

[tired brook]

....because andor gave it to him

[rare jolt]

Because nobody thought it was member berries

[flat fractal]

That would've been so funny if he did

[fallen patrol]

Yeah because they must've been on their phones

[rare jolt]

And even then it's not member berries if it's something directly from the show

[tired brook]

https://tenor.com/view/andor-ruescott-melshi-people-have-to-know-about-this-duncan-pow-star-wars-gif-27108227

[fallen patrol]

You mean like yavin

[rare jolt]

Still no mention of the astromech

You mean surprise Yavin reveal with member berries music that added nothing to the show and was there so the audience would clap and forget the worst arc in both seasons

I clapped when I saw yavin

[flat fractal]

Are you guys

Still at this

Episode 8 is probably the last we see of eedy karn

I really liked her character this season

[tired brook]

uncle harlow will kill dredra in the finale

[flat fractal]

Using her as a lense to empires propaganda without it confusing the narrative

[tired brook]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[flat fractal]

Plot twist uncle harlow is Saw

[tired brook]

uncle harlow is luthen

[flat fractal]

Uncle Harlow is palpatine

Eedy is a sith lord

[restive ridge]

I realize now why they didn't give K2 a gun holy shit

[restive ridge]

He escaped the prison with Cassian in season 1 so it's not just a Rogue One cameo

[tired brook]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-mon-mothma-star-wars-dance-dance-elmo-dj-gif-881154907231497662

[tired brook]

https://tenor.com/view/andor-cassian-melshi-whatever-happens-now-we-made-it-gif-27326054

[fallen patrol]

Nah I'm finally done after all my points got validated tbh

Loving this season from start to finish now that I have a more full picture

No more CGI complaints either, wayyyy better

Can't wait to see how it finishes

[flat fractal]

Same

It's amazing

It might take the place of my favourite show I've watch

Which is currently young sheldon

[runic tendon]

ashoka comes to save the day

[sharp yoke]

https://x.com/holocron12/status/1920630024262029620

liz 🌌🌟luthen’s #1 fan (@holocron12) on X

here’s some clips from the andor trailers we’ve yet to see!

X · May 9, 2025, 12:00 AM

i think dedra will find out about luthen

there's a clip where she raises her pistol in a room that looks like luthens shop

[rare jolt]

I like Dedra as a character but on the other hand I hope she dies so Disney can't ruin her later on

[primal horizon]

it was melshi from rogue one but also from the narkina arc

[primal horizon]

also ive never heard the term “member berry” before whats it mean

glup shitto cameo?

[fallen patrol]

Pretty synonymous yeah

I hate the term but it's becoming popular

[primal horizon]

glup shitto or member berry

[fallen patrol]

Glup Shitto is an awesome term, but using member berries for low quality cameos feels a bit low brow to me

Then again I liked wojak point lol

[primal horizon]

gotcha

i love glup shitto cause its ridiculously accurate so its really funny

i want them to make Tag and Bink canon in some form

i fucking love that comic

[stark falcon]

Which one was that again?

Nvm just remembered it’s that comedic rebel duo

[primal horizon]

ya

they got in wacky shenanigans that coincided with the main events of the movies

[tired brook]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-i-member-south-park-s20e1-member-berries-member-gif-20603952

[fallen patrol]

Bob Iger was mentioned too

Even Gilroy will admit he's the real issues around here

[flat fractal]

1 more year

And we will see if we get someone better or worse

[fallen patrol]

Of bob Iger?

Now that's some exciting star wars news

[rare jolt]

the last time they replaced him we got the unequivocally worst disney era ever

hopefully they choose a better replacement this time

[restive wharf]

Its gonna be a fucking AI bro

Tech bro

Its incredibly predictable

[jagged dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/under-new-management-more-like-under-new-management-megamind-megamind-meme-jokez_da_joke-gif-19867663

[wide spire]

man, im finally caught up after being on vacation, and then sick, and i come in here looking forward to discuss peak, but some of y'all just using it as a platform to shit on other star wars.

some of y'all suck.

even tony gilroy thinks some of y'all suck.

[jagged dragon]

Real

[primal horizon]

common gilroy W

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786202604388483084/917097388617908234/caption.gif

[flat fractal]

Memesoon diss

[fallen patrol]

PREACH! I might just start curating who I can see on my timeline more cuz it's really sucking the fun out of it

[tired brook]

gilroy basically calling out SWT with "the people who speak with the most authority online are usually the people who know the least"

[alpine plover]

Just watched the new episodes

That was f***ing amazing!!!

I did not think they could beat season 1's best, but they somehow did.

How on earth are they going to finish this show and make it feel complete?

[fallen patrol]

Episode 8 had me traumatized

[alpine plover]

Same

I didn't expect it to get that brutal

[fallen patrol]

The security droid scenes were fucking terrifying man

Humans turned in to action figures thrown across the road

The kicking the barricade...

[fallen patrol]

"I thought I had ruined my life. I thought I was done. After meeting you, and discovering you understood how dangerous Cassian Andor was. Just being in your presence, I... I've realised that life is worth living. I realised that if nothing else, there was justice and beauty in the galaxy and if I just kept going...Perhaps my deranged belief that there was something better fated for me in the future was a dream worth clinging to."

NAH MY EYES HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE OPEN

I SEE THE SYRIL VISION NOW

I WAS BUT BLINDED IN THE FACE OF SUCH CREATIVE MAJESTY

[flat fractal]

I don't interact with star wars YouTube at all

Or star wars twitter

What's annoying me alot are the pretentious andor fans

They act like people who like the ahsoka show are a subhuman species

[fallen patrol]

I more meant my timeline in here but that too

[runic tendon]

Ong

The quality jump from the beginning of the season is insane

[flat fractal]

Ohhhh

Yeah the ignore feature works really well

Its like blocking but better

[runic tendon]

Yeah that was so confusing just a random scene out of nowhere

[primal horizon]

welcome back to the lightside, brother

https://tenor.com/view/trilla-suduri-the-second-sister-star-wars-jedi-fallen-order-its-over-gif-16432890

[fallen patrol]

Same thing in season 1

Tony Gilroy is just that good at build up

[fallen patrol]

He died redeemed

If he made me have respect for him in his final moments?

You earned it dude

[stark falcon]

From incel to real in his last moments

[digital yoke]

rael

[fallen patrol]

Honestly I would love a political style espionage show about the New Republic

I think overcoming a fascist regime but never having planned for what comes after a great idea. Humans can all come together for a common enemy, but they will go right back to hating eachother and feeling superior

(plus it'll make the capital planet being blown up actually fucking matter)

Let's expand the ST flaws the way the prequels got without a focus on super important characters of the era

[jagged dragon]

Seriously, the rise of the First Order is such a blindspot, a series about it could do wonders if it’s written competently

[wide spire]

am i the only one here who thinks the first arc was a masterclass in parallel storytelling? Like the last 3 eps were really fucking good, but I don't think it's an insane jump in quality. the quality of s2 has been pretty consistent in my eyes.

[fallen patrol]

I'd love to hear your thoughts, been waiting to gush over it tbh

[wide spire]

i see a lot of complaints about the rebels on yavin, but i think a lot of people are missing the point. as a standalone, sure, its a little silly, but its not a standalone story. its a comparison story.

The Rebels vs the Empire are juxtaposed.
While the rebels are killing each other in the middle of the jungle, the empire is organizing genocide while having biscuits and coffee. While the rebels are deciding to kill one man, whose ultimately on their side, the Empire is deciding how to kill millions.

Meanwhile Cassian and Mon are parallels.
While everyone around Cassian is making the wrong decisions and making his life worse for their own self-interests, everyone around Mon is making the wrong decisions and making her life worse for their own self-interests. When Cassian finally gets control, he really still doesn't have control and his best friend is killed. When Mon finally gets control, she really doesn't have control and her best friend is killed.

[fallen patrol]

I just really enjoyed how believable it makes "Captain Andor" because even he had the ability to turn dogshit childish rebellions in to something effective enough to get something done

It also makes his decision to back off from Ghorman even more interesting because it must really be a fucked up situation to be too far gone for him

And the show has now just proven he was right from the beginning

[wide spire]

those poor ghormans tho... when an appropriate response to hearing about "the ghorman massacre" is "which one"

[flat fractal]

I love the parallels and opposite parallels in andor

I wonder if ghorman will collapse

[wide spire]

oh it for sure will

i guess they've rebranded the first one as "the tarkin massacre" in canon

[flat fractal]

Yes

Ghorman being uninhabitable would finish off the arc and parallel with the first arc of andor about andors home planet being uninhabitable due to mining

[jagged dragon]

That would be pretty legit

[fallen patrol]

I've seen articles about "omg they said genocide" lol

Thought that was pretty funny

Star wars had saw attempt genocide in their kids show rebels lol

[flat fractal]

There was an episode about the geonosians being completely genocided

[wide spire]

yeah was just about to mention that, can't remember if they actually used the word "genocide" tho

[fallen patrol]

They don't

[wide spire]

Pablo Hidalgo does, tho, when he made the canon Declaration of Rebellion, penned in-universe by Mon Mothma

[flat fractal]

It seems to be a bit of a taboo word

[wide spire]

theres a lot of that going around this season, apparently

[flat fractal]

People grew up in different households

What's taboo for one person isn't for another

[sharp yoke]

womp womp, knowing this is what could be it should be the standard for every show going forward. not that every show should be a drama thriller but every show should adhere to the quality of andor. the care and thought that was put into this which we evidently have never gotten before.

cant wait to go back to watching jon favreu slop again

just so happy

[wide spire]

even tony gilroy thinks you suck

[sharp yoke]

i read it and i dont think so, youre reaching to feel validated

[wide spire]

nah, even tony gilroy thinks you suck

[sharp yoke]

back to reddit bro

[wide spire]

have fun knowing even tony gilroy thinks you suck 👋

[flat fractal]

I don't think andor should be the standard for every project

Skeleton crew is where I would put the standard

[sharp yoke]

i can see not every show adhering to it because of for example the different ages theyre targeted for but i very much believe the quality of recent shows are completely unacceptable. legacy characters are just not important enough go be handled with care i guess.

[sharp yoke]

mayhaps i agree

skeleton crew>obi, boba, acolyte, mando s3,

[wide spire]

we were having a nice conversation about andor here

[flat fractal]

Skeleton crew had alot of care put into it

With practical effects set and design and camera work

[sharp yoke]

yeah

did you like the story

i found it intriguing

[flat fractal]

Yeah but it needs another season

Alot of questions not answered

Questions that were set up from episode 1

[fallen patrol]

Real

[jagged dragon]

Andor should set an example of the quality that every show should aim for, not what every show should try to be

[primal horizon]

i agree

every sprinter should aim to be as good as Usain Bolt but we shouldn't expect them to be at his level

[wide spire]

Not every runner is a sprinter

Not every athlete is a runner

[primal horizon]

exactly!!

[flat fractal]

I love the parallels with these two scenes

Heartbreaking

[primal horizon]

TIL andor is a fulcrum

[primal horizon]

☹️

[rare jolt]

Why not

I don't expect every project to reflect the more mature tone of Andor but I certainly expect them to have standards when it comes to the quality of their products

Andor has fantastic writing and quality why is it wrong to expect the same from other Star Wars products or call out lesser work when it's very clear they have the talent to make it better?

[alpine plover]

I rewatched Rogue One last night (parents decided to watch it), and one thing that confused me was how easily K2 security droids were destroyed by blaster fire. In the new Andor episodes they barely even take a beating. Does anyone know why there's such a difference?

[fallen patrol]

You could say the blasters being used

Rogue one is military level rifles

Ghorman was makeshift pistols and cheap black markets

[wide spire]

i mean the real reason is just that Rogue One was their first appearance and i dont think they were really established as powerhouses until like Fallen Order.

But if you're looking for a canon reason, mass production could've lead to lower quality when comparing the units we first see in 18 BBY vs the ones we see in 1 BBY.

[fallen patrol]

Yeah I mean that too because after the rebellion is more recognised, they'd need to pump up the production numbers

[wide spire]

even if the latest andor episode was just 2 BBY, they could've been using "original" or older KX units that were better quality, that needed to be replaced by the cheaper ones shortly after when ones like K2SO were crushed/captured

[fallen patrol]

OooOoo now we're cooking

The original units were stronger but had a design flaw that allowed them to be easily rebuilt and hacked

[flat fractal]

Good question

I changed my original opinion on this

I don't think any project should be held to the standard of others

While comparison is a valid form of critique it often waters down into "well I like this more"

I do think other star wars shows need more attention to detail

But I'm not going to hold them andors standard

[dapper musk]

Jyn was just built different / K2 took on basically an entire platoon before he went down

[fallen patrol]

Yeah it's not dissimilar to the firing squad of Andor peeps

[wheat kestrel]

Someone should Soyjak Mothma

[wheat kestrel]

Buckle up cuz the next two episodes also suck ass

[primal horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/art-scarface-supernatural-sad-horror-gif-13781057

mon mothma:

[sharp yoke]

cool guy

[tired brook]

https://x.com/sw_holocron/status/1922056076314169846

Star Wars Holocron (@sw_holocron) on X

Kyle Soller talks about a crew member on ANDOR who stole something from the set

“Somebody on the crew [stole something] on the first season. They made away with a payment card or token or something that was just a prop that you wouldn't see or whatever, and that guy was found

X · May 12, 2025, 10:27 PM

[jagged dragon]

“My lord, the Ghorman people held a huge insurrection and Mon Mothma publicly denounced you, what do we do?”

“10 billion credits to Naboo”

[restive wharf]

Another trillion credits to Kuat Drive Yards

[digital yoke]

what about the droid attack on the wookies

[restive wharf]

What about the droid attack on the Ghormans....

https://tenor.com/view/vietnam-flashback-traumatized-cat-gif-7852054576948114551

[restive ridge]

Peakdor finale tonight I’m so fucking ready

[primal horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-17729711691959966457

[tired brook]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-its-peak-its-way-too-peak-its-honestly-more-than-peak-meme-gif-14944785001351870503

[wheat kestrel]

Man I really wish we got that multi season show initially really wanted to stay in this underground rebel era

[tired brook]

https://tenor.com/view/smoking-asian-in-rain-smoking-in-rain-gif-17218585255855616288

and i look at the next shows we're getting....

[wheat kestrel]

Bruh fr

I guess I only looking forward to Ahsoka season 2 if they're making that since that cliffhanger was interesting

[tired brook]

just gonna be more slop

the 2024-2025 good star wars streak has ended

(well except may-august 2024 maybe)

[wheat kestrel]

Ah I see I haven't been keeping up I think only watched Ahsoka and Andor and Mando the last few years

Ironically I like the 1st Mando Season the best

Same with Andor

[tired brook]

since the start of 2024 we got

bad batch S3 (good)
tales of the empire (shit)
acolyte (i liked it)
skeleton crew (good)
tales of the underworld (good)
andor S2 (great)

[wheat kestrel]

At no point does this show ever top the prison break in season 1 and for that alone it's a downgrade without getting into the other issues

Andor season 1 prison Arc was legendary

Generational I'd say

[wheat kestrel]

I heard alot of people liked skeleton crew

[tired brook]

its a nice adventure

[wheat kestrel]

It sucks that Disney's track record is so messy they waste a lot of good time periods to have stories in

[tired brook]

unfortunately thats down to the creator of the specific product

[primal horizon]

that ending though

if i had a nickel for every time a star wars tv show that is a prequel for a male character ends showing that said male character ||has a son that they did not know about and never wind up caring for||, i’d have two nickels, which isnt a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice

[jagged dragon]

So far watching it, ||Luthen’s death|| was gut wrenching, especially as someone who has had to watch life support get pulled

This show dude…

https://tenor.com/view/one-peak-one-piece-one-piece-cry-its-so-peak-gif-13413926760013023520

[digital yoke]

it do be peak

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-raccoon-absolute-cinema-gif-17862327649353748812

[jagged dragon]

Who else is planning on rewatching Rogue One after

[zinc moon]

Tomorrow

[primal horizon]

the only thing im confused about is that at the very end, cassian is ||going to kafrene||

and we see it at the beginning of rogue one

but this arc was 1bby and rogue one is 0bby

but it’s heavily implied to be the same event

[digital yoke]

me for sure lol

[zinc moon]

They changed 0 bby

[primal horizon]

wdym

[zinc moon]

It basically doesn't exist anymore

So Rebels S4 and Rogue One are in 1 BBY now

[patent radish]

PEAK

[tired brook]

mfw the next shows are ahsoka and maul slop

https://tenor.com/view/cillianmurphygun-cillianmurphy-jazmincoded-gif-3811002643797340103

[upper coyote]

Commit Partagaz

[sharp yoke]

who is andors sister

[restive wharf]

I genuinely think this is an error on the Show's part

[restive wharf]

Oh

[restive wharf]

The distinction between Andor, Rogue One, and A New Hope will never not be the funniest thing

[primal horizon]

but rogue one literally ends right where a new hope begins

has it been changed so that the "new year" for BBY is the battle of yavin

rather than being the middle

so a day before the battle of yavin is considered 1 BBY?

[zinc moon]

Yes

[wide spire]

I had to google that continuity change myself. It's so silly. 0 BBY and 0 ABY are now the same year, simply referred to as "0". 0 starts with ANH, and lasts a whole year until 1 ABY. So Rogue One is 1 BBY until the moment the credits roll and Vader starts chasing the Tantive IV. Technically 0 BBY is just ANH up through the Battle of Yavin. And 0 ABY is the rest of the year after that, starting with the medal ceremony at the end of ANH.

[jagged dragon]

So weird and unnecessarily confusing

[primal horizon]

that is very strange

so 19bby is now 20bby?

[zinc moon]

No

They moved events around but the years are still the same apart from 0

[primal horizon]

how was the medal ceremony a full year later wtf

[primal horizon]

gotcha

[primal horizon]

wait nvm i understand now

so blah blah bby up until 1bby which ends at the start of a new hope then all of anh is 0 then 1aby starts… at the end of a new hope? or a year after the end of a new hope?

the only way it makes sense for 1bby and 1aby to be actually a year apart would be for the medal ceremony to be exactly a year after the start of a new hope

[wide spire]

1 ABY is a year after ANH

The year "0" (no BBY or ABY) is from the start of ANH until a year later, when 1 ABY starts

[primal horizon]

okay

gotcha

so 1aby is 1 year after anh but 1bby is NOT 1 year before anh

[wide spire]

you can split the year 0 up into BBY and ABY, but 0 BBY is only a few days long (however long ANH takes) and 0 ABY is the rest of the year, starting with the medal ceremony

[primal horizon]

ok ok its all coming together now

[wide spire]

how i wrapped my head around it is 1 BBY is everything that happens in the year leading up to ANH

[primal horizon]

gotcha

[flat fractal]

Tales of the empire good
Tales of the underground bad

[tired brook]

mf thinks empire was good

[flat fractal]

It was peak

[flat fractal]

Those last three episodes were gut wrenching

[dapper musk]

You liked Tales of the Underworld more than Tales of the Empire?

[tired brook]

time to watch tales of the empire!

barriss story that goes nowhere and she dies
morgan

https://tenor.com/view/boooooo-this-guy-stinks-serious-spongebob-squarepants-gif-11981386

[dapper musk]

More exciting than Ventress getting a reboot royale and basically doing nothing for 45 minutes

[tired brook]

ill admit that its out of place (because it actually is!)

[dapper musk]

TotE might be mediocre, but I can atleast see what they were going for with both of the characters, one being corrupted one being redeemed, etc etc

I have... no idea wtf the point of TotU was

Filoni has truly gone beyond my brain capacity with those 6 episodes

[restive wharf]

Uhhh Cad Bane is a deadbeat uhh

[tired brook]

one letting go and one not

anyway, to elaborate

ventress' is out of place, she wasnt originally intended to be in tales and only decided on it due to bad batch

and they did need to address the fact that shes alive

so ventress' shorts are basically to give her a clean slate and to put her back on the table for stories, she'd been gone from screens for 11 years prior to bad batch

[dapper musk]

fortnite

[tired brook]

yes she should be a skin

[dapper musk]

i didnt mean to type that here lmao

[tired brook]

tbh its not unrelated to underworld lol

[dapper musk]

https://tenor.com/view/lighthouse-the-lighthouse-wake-laugh-wake-laughing-gif-5252594120951449508

[rare jolt]

Peakdor actually landed

Tied into its related source way better than any other related media I've seen

Tying it into Rogue One without feeling rushed or too on the nose

This season 9/10

These types of shows are not common and that's not even talking about Star Wars

[digital yoke]

[primal horizon]

cant wait for andor to win 3 cassillion emmys

[jagged dragon]

Just watched Rogue One again after a long time + after Andor

https://tenor.com/view/danny-devito-its-always-sunny-applaud-happy-cry-clapping-gif-18958303

[rare jolt]

Too bad the first 2 acts of that movie are a snooze fest

[patent radish]

[radiant cove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/935886170997547028/1372474022717296720/image0.jpg?ex=6826e78a&is=6825960a&hm=d72264c00a631536ba7fdddc6d8da4c57ae2be7d040705a1ddff429ada073ebc&

[tired brook]

https://tenor.com/view/reactor-rbwr-reactor-explodes-gif-8455581345930100726

[tired brook]

https://x.com/_ShauryaChawla/status/1922554967866396820

Shaurya Chawla (@_ShauryaChawla) on X

"Ah, g'day there, Dedra Meero. Just building the Death Star, mate. You haven't been talking to the Rebels, have ya, mate?" #Andor

X · May 14, 2025, 7:29 AM

[tired brook]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/669616106696212499/1372571381463650475/Screenshot_20250515_154831_Instagram.jpg?ex=68274236&is=6825f0b6&hm=a3ed87e9acfe4988b608d5fb86df893fc6a5c82acb0621bb0f46c2b708c6ab98&

[rare jolt]

So when are we getting Andor 2 following his son Many Bothans Andor

[primal horizon]

Lonni's son is named Manny "Both-Hands" Jung

[sharp yoke]

side note

the rebel base on yavin 4 is cozy af

[fallen patrol]

She was pregnant

https://tenor.com/view/crying-rn-gif-19096964

[restive wharf]

And he never knew

[tired brook]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-handshake-muscle-strong-man-gif-5783927

cassian and cad bane

you can figure out the rest if you know

[open kiln]

B2EMO

I cried when I saw him playing with the other droid, He seemed so happy and joyful

[alpine plover]

I believe this is close to the end of 1 BBY. Rogue One is 1/0 BBY.

[primal horizon]

dont worry

[alpine plover]

0 still exists

[primal horizon]

we settled it

[alpine plover]

I saw

[alpine plover]

Why does Wil have a limp in the last 2 episodes?

[safe steeple]

he may have just had an off-screen injury. from his uniform and places he works, he probably transferred to base engineering instead of his previous position

[wide spire]

he had a limp since escaping Ghorman with his girlfriend

this scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i2f7JJ3BLA

he has a limp after that

[jagged dragon]

I’m pretty sure it’s an injury from the Ghorman massacre, remember he stayed behind for the girl

[alpine plover]

I thought so

I forgot about that

[fallen patrol]

Sooo Andor covered whole ass lynchings with that Luthen flashback

You don't get much more original woke than that

And war crimes but we've seen plenty of that

[tired brook]

andor keeping it real

[alpine plover]

Lynchings??! When was that?

[fallen patrol]

When Luthen walked off on child Kleya

They got no trial shot in firing range style when someone had already stated they've caught the people over and over so they're practically random executions

[alpine plover]

That was a lynching?

Wasn't that just an execution

?

[fallen patrol]

(of a group of people) kill (someone) for an alleged offence without a legal trial, especially by hanging.

Granted it's not a hanging, but I doubt star wars has those

[alpine plover]

Oh

I thought it was targeted towards a certain group

Probably my history brain working

[fallen patrol]

Well that town is a certain group of people. They're only local to that place

They've almost wiped them out

[alpine plover]

Ah

[fallen patrol]

Just love that Andor has no problem showing the nuance of how the empire is evil, rather than just telling us

[alpine plover]

Yeah

N*** in space

[fallen patrol]

Like yeah I don't like too much explaining in star wars but tony gilroy is great at breaking new ground

[fallen patrol]

W-

What

[alpine plover]

German group

[fallen patrol]

I must be missing the punchline

[alpine plover]

Lucas intended them to be an allegory for that group from ww2

So this is taking it to the extreme

[restive wharf]

? Is Nazi censored here

I take that as a no

[alpine plover]

Just in case

[primal horizon]

they already did that with cassian’s dad

[fallen patrol]

True! I meant more on a large scale though

That woman said they've done this many times to the point of wiping out a town

Then again ferrix is pretty fucked up

[upper coyote]

What happens now…

Does this channel just get archived and forgotten

Peak is no more

[flat fractal]

We go back to hating on dave filoni instead of discussing peak

[alpine plover]

⬆️ ⬆️

[stark falcon]

I’m sure it will be once enough time has passed for Spoilers to be discussed outside of here

[primal horizon]

not having nicholas britell compose the entire season 2 soundtrack was honestly a mistake imo

ive listened to almost all of both seasons' soundtracks (listening to s2e10-12 rn) and season 1 had so much more, better, unique songs

and one thing i noticed is they used past/present suite when cassian is driving mon mothma away from the senate

errrr

didnt know it was just the escape theme now

where is the past

when it was used in season 1, it was showing PAST cassian go into space for the first time with maarva and clem, and PRESENT cassian escaping with luthen

but in s2 it's just the present, there is no past being shown

i'm probably criticizing this too much, but it's because they did the same thing in rise of skywalker a fuck ton

like they used Luke & Leia when lando talks to jannah

and used a bunch of other themes for inappropriate times, this video goes into detail https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_8-dWSLDWI

my favorite is yoda's theme being turned into "lifting x-wing from water" theme, like come ON

ok rant over :)

[wheat kestrel]

Really wish we got multiple seasons

Feels like a lot of things ended too fast

[rare jolt]

The most enlightening thing I ever heard about Star Wars that explains exactly why they feel the way they do is that they were made with the idea that they're silent films and that the music score is what carries the tone

The reason leitmotifs are so heavily present

[flat fractal]

Oh i see

[primal horizon]

i completely agree

[rare jolt]

I wondered for years why Star Wars feels different from everything else and why so many newer projects absolutely suck

[primal horizon]

and thats why when the music isn't good it turns me off from the content

[rare jolt]

However Andor is an example of why hiring actually talented writers and directors is important

[primal horizon]

star wars is best when the visuals follow the music, not the other way around

[rare jolt]

Well the visuals must always come first as it is a visual format

Notice how everything that tries to be the "next Star Wars" completely fails

It has nothing to do with science fiction or even space opera

It's about tone

I would say the prequels themselves are 100% carried by the same logic and is the sole reason anybody even pretends to like them

[flat fractal]

I don't get why people called andor the least star wars star wars

[primal horizon]

out of any of them it would technically be skeleton crew because it doesnt actually contain wars

(i havent seen skeleton crew)

[flat fractal]

Yes it does

Oh

In skeleton crew they visit a planet with a civil war

Where they use child soldiers

[primal horizon]

ope

[mint idol]

HOLY SHIT PARTISAN KILLED HIMSELF

Oh my god Dedra went to prison

Bro

Whyyy

What the fuuuck

[alpine plover]

Partagaz?

[mint idol]

Yeah

That’s

Not what I said..?

Oh

Auto correct

Anyway

YES

[fallen patrol]

Highly recommend rewatching the Luthen speech after finishing S2

Holy fuck I get twice as many goosebumps now

He DID give us everything

He DID miss the sunrise

[mint idol]

Holy shit

Broo

Everything just

MM

Syrians death too

I never commented but holy shit to comes together

As he realizes how insignificant he is

How used he was

AAAA love this show

https://tenor.com/view/spectacular-i-want-more-give-me-more-right-now-food-gif-9027143773043425428

[safe steeple]

https://fixupx.com/bc_0024/status/1923712509493535130

BC_024 (@bc_0024)

#RogueOne #StarWars #Andor #andorseason2 #fanart

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FixupX · May 17, 2025, 12:09 PM

[flat fractal]

Me too

That ending was so good

[mint idol]

Did my girl Dedra dirty though

[tired brook]

she was foolish

krennic really wanted her to be a spy

[rare jolt]

She got what she deserved

Don't forget she was pretty evil

[tired brook]

https://tenor.com/view/andor-star-wars-star-wars-krennic-gif-13802369085016033445

[flat fractal]

Best ending for her

Way better than her being killed she's in the very bottom of the chain of command

[rare jolt]

She's essentially dead going to be worked to death

[mint idol]

Yeah I just wish like

Ugh

[runic tendon]

Nah she will reappear in Ahsoka season 2

[jagged dragon]

Actually Cassian’s kid is going to return in Ahsoka s2 to help defeat Thrawn

[rare jolt]

I couldn't imagine a worse outcome

[runic tendon]

Cassian’s kid vs Dedra

[radiant cove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/935886170997547028/1373781698071892028/1010afe204aa14e7290223a3c8ee7c9c.mp4?ex=682ba968&is=682a57e8&hm=3010e1767887d059703d76b5c012100182dd4c0510884502680578c88ebe6d15&

[slate spindle]

Aura

[fallen patrol]

The second I start to respect him, he gets humiliated and executed

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379681647592734720/1352232693642821652/image0.gif

[fallen patrol]

SHES FUCKING IRISH????

LETSGOOOOOO

Her accent was sooooo good as dedra id never have known

[mint idol]

Lmao, a W for cardoor

[mint idol]

Right?

You KNOW that "who are you" hit deep

[fallen patrol]

He basically tried save dedra even after everything (while taking it out on the guy who fucked up his life) and at the end of it all? Neither of them gave a fuck about him

https://tenor.com/view/shaking-head-fast-poggers-gif-18178733

[tired brook]

https://tenor.com/view/mog-statue-mogger-mogging-mewing-gif-4726236665805485045

I actually met her once

[sharp yoke]

they originally wanted to use the mando formula for thit shit

[stark falcon]

Looks like you’re being represented lol

[fallen patrol]

There's more of us in Hollywood than you think

[primal horizon]

the irish are taking over!

[fallen patrol]

Not that many

[brave stone]

Fuck why did I click on this lol

[jagged dragon]

Been there before

[brave stone]

I’m so dumb lol my god

Oh well

So what do the lads rate Peakdor season 2?

[jagged dragon]

Defo easy 9/10 and if I wanted to be really nice it would be 10

[brave stone]

Nice

What episode does ||Luthen|| die

I might just get blasted before watching that episode to hopefully not remember the spoiler

[jagged dragon]

I think you should just go in full tilt if you’re planning on getting blasted beforehand without knowing

[brave stone]

Ohh true

Yeah better off not knowing the episode

[rare jolt]

A great season that starts off pretty bad but after episode 3 is just peak

[alpine plover]

So true

It took a little while to get going, but when it did it was amazing.

[stark falcon]

Ends on an absolute banger too

[restive ridge]

I kneel before peak fiction

Watching Rogue One now for the full experience

Confirming that this makes Rogue One twice as good just the scene where he meets the informant

Adds so much to it

The context it’s just chefs kiss

Do you think when Saw hits his breathing mask there’s actually fuel in there not air?

That’s my head canon

[tired brook]

https://tenor.com/view/andor-krenick-dedra-press-head-gif-12981227267118881468

start doing THIS

[restive ridge]

This show really does make Rogue One hit differently

Also this is a really bad week for Palpatine huh

ISB loses a ton of their best staff, his best Admiral is lost in the unknown regions, and the Death Star blows up

[restive ridge]

Man this Andor finale is crazy they brought this random Jyn person in and they’re focusing on her a lot for some reason but otherwise it’s crazy

Also there’s this random dude with a goofy helmet that Krennic went to talk to idk what that’s about

[primal horizon]

maybe thats the emperor palpatine mon mothma mentioned?

[restive ridge]

I actually felt something when Andor died bravo Tony Gilroy

Andor did for Rogue One what TCW did for ROTS

But better

The hallway scene is extra wild going straight from Andor which is super grounded

Also I’m just now noticing all the call forwards in Andor as well lol

[rare jolt]

Im sorry but this is cope

Anakin in the prequels and Anakin in TCW are 2 completely different characters

[alpine plover]

Nah it's true

[rare jolt]

Comparing it to Andor is hilarious

[alpine plover]

It's still a big impact

[rare jolt]

Not really

There's barely anything tying TCW to revenge of the sith

Aside from chronologically happening next to each other

I just saw what Tony Gilroy was saying what Disney was originally going to do with Andor and thank goodness we dodged a bullet

[restive ridge]

In the sense that it makes me appreciate it more

[wheat kestrel]

Unless there's some ground breaking advancement in VFX you couldn't and there wouldn't be much point original trilogy was as much a showcase for VFX and cutting edge filmaking as it is anything else

[rare jolt]

I don't think VFX matters

[wheat kestrel]

For star wars it does that's one of the main reasons it made pop off in the first place

[rare jolt]

Sure when Star Wars first came out but nowadays it doesn't matter

Andor basically has barely any vfx

[wheat kestrel]

As much as it may irritate me but the majority of people who go see Star wars movies go for the explosions and big cgi block buster movie stuff

I guess it could change at time goes on tho

Like you said

[rare jolt]

They go to see a fun light hearted adventure

[wheat kestrel]

Since star wars doesn't have the cultural relevance it used too

[wheat kestrel]

They go to see big explosions and lasers dawg 😭

[rare jolt]

The reason it no longer is relevant is because it shot itself

[wheat kestrel]

There is a reason why Disney panders constantly to the lowest common denominator

[rare jolt]

If people wanted to see lasers and explosions then people would have liked book of boba Fett and Mandalorian season 3

That's not an argument that exists anymore

Had some of the largest drops in viewership

[wheat kestrel]

Was that show super action heavy? I know it was towards the end but it felt more like nostalgia bait slop than some big epic Micheal Bay movie

[rare jolt]

Yes that's all they were

Just action scenes and cameo slop

[wheat kestrel]

Really wish they didn't make Cad Bane so funny lookin

And I wish they did more tusken raider stuff

[rare jolt]

It doesn't matter how good something looks it matters if it's written well

[wheat kestrel]

Episode 2 with the tuskins was my favorite part of the show

[rare jolt]

It's so blatantly apparent with Andor that good writing triumphs all

[wheat kestrel]

I initially hated it too cuz I was like "ughhh the sand people they're fucking lame I don't care about them 😫" then I ended up loving them

[rare jolt]

Hell Mandalorian sunk because of how bad the writing was

[wheat kestrel]

The 1st season was my favorite

Season 3 was such huge mess and all over the place

[rare jolt]

Because it was written better

The writing is the #1 most important part of film making

[wheat kestrel]

Btw did you finish Andor

[rare jolt]

Yes

[wheat kestrel]

Nice

Overall I was disappointed but it kept me engaged

[rare jolt]

Why were you disappointed

[wheat kestrel]

I like the 1st season way more

[wheat kestrel]

Wayyyy too short and a lot of plot threads just happen that don't lead anywhere or anywhere significant. Plus the first 3 episodes were hella boring for me and unfortunately don't really lead to anything and felt like a huge waste of time. You spend 3 episodes with Andor stuck with some annoying ass rebels you never see again. They spend way too much time on that wedding even though you never even see mothmas daughter again. Heck the dad is only shown again for like 5 seconds in an end of the show montage etc. I also really wish they did the 5 seasons as was initially planned

I was really disappointed Syril and Deedra's relationship ended so fast that was super entertaining how dysfunctional they were but then I realize ohhhh I was supposed to get multiple seasons of this

I also don't like doing so many time skips cuz I really wanted to explore that underground era of the rebellion then like halfway around the show were like year before yavin battle already 🥲

[fallen patrol]

Is this channel allowed to enjoy themselves yet?

[restive ridge]

I agree this show deserved more time to flesh everything out

I’m happy with what we got but it would have been awesome to see what we missed out on

[flat fractal]

No

[alpine plover]

never

[brave stone]

What kind of episode viewing frequency should I watch this season boys?

Just wing it and binge watch or say two episodes at a time? Or three episodes at a time?

[restive wharf]

3 at a time if you have the time

But that can be quite time consuming

[alpine plover]

3 at a time is the best way to watch it

Though you could watch 2 or even 1 if you can stand the pace

[flat fractal]

3 at a time

The episodes are still very whole themselves

[brave stone]

Alr ty lads

[rare jolt]

I wonder how long Dedra lasted

[digital yoke]

probs stepped out into the hall one night

[tired brook]

she became shift manager

[rare jolt]

I think she would have become a room leader like kino

Before eventually dying

[tired brook]

nah

[rare jolt]

Yeah

[tired brook]

shes out in like 6 years

[rare jolt]

6 years of that

She's not surviving

Keep in mind there's a second Death Star they're working on

[tired brook]

google "labour camps"

[rare jolt]

Star Wars prison is not the same as irl

Given flavorless food and worked to death yeah she definitely went crazy and stepped on the floor or dies of exhaustion

And worse case scenario she survives until the Empires defeat they're probably killing all the prisoners anyway

[tired brook]

reminder that the old guy in S1 was in there for ages

[rare jolt]

Narkina 5 was a special prison planet specifically building top secret stuff there's no way they don't bump everyone working there while they can

[tired brook]

assuming

[rare jolt]

Also also Dedra is not in a good mindset already

She is absolutely considering the floor

[tired brook]

assuning

[rare jolt]

That's not assuming the last shot of her in the show is her in a state of distress

It's 100% intended to be her end

[tired brook]

yeah, stuck in prison

[rare jolt]

The death prison

[tired brook]

until shes out in like 6 years

[rare jolt]

Assuming

[tired brook]

NR would liberate it

[rare jolt]

How

[tired brook]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-millenium-falcon-explosion-explode-flames-gif-4289251

[rare jolt]

Imperial protocol post Emperor's death was kill everything

[tired brook]

that was project cinder which was something completely different

[rare jolt]

No that was everything yes there were specific targets however especially with the context clues given from Andor, Narkina 5 would be a total annihilation procedure

Get rid of any evidence

[tired brook]

assuming

[rare jolt]

That's a pretty good assumption

Given the prison already killed entire floors because some information leaked out

[tired brook]

based on stuff you made up in your head just now

[rare jolt]

Did you watch Andor

[tired brook]

dude shes dead
but she isnt
shes suicidal
but she isnt
well they'd kill all the prisoners anyway!
based on...?
UHHH DID YOU WATCH THE SHOW

did you?

[rare jolt]

You are conviently missing out all of the context clues and evidence that supports that

[tired brook]

assuming

[rare jolt]

That's all you've had to say

[tired brook]

I could also assume that a NR ship would come in, tell the officers to stand down or die and they'd stand down

[rare jolt]

Based off what

[tired brook]

WW2

core theme of star wars

[rare jolt]

Because that's what they did in Andor right

[tired brook]

yes

luthen is based off of a WW2 spy

https://tenor.com/view/luthen-andor-cassian-andor-star-wars-luthen-rael-gif-26948081

[alpine plover]

Yes

[rare jolt]

The show makes a very big point of showing literally every character getting rid of any and all loose ends

[alpine plover]

The Empire is based off of the Axis forces in WW2.

[rare jolt]

But guys the empire wouldn't kill the prisoners they wouldn't stand for that

[tired brook]

never said they wouldnt

[alpine plover]

Omg shut up Theory

[tired brook]

I just said that you're assuning

[rare jolt]

That's clearly what the show implies

[alpine plover]

It's a pretty good assumption

[rare jolt]

Her fate is left implied that she dies at the prison

[alpine plover]

Yeah

I highly doubt she makes it to rotj

[rare jolt]

They don't show her dying because they have confidence that the audience can put 2 and 2 together

[tired brook]

she dies in prison
ok how
shes suicidal
but she isnt

repeat

[alpine plover]

This

[rare jolt]

I forgot the Star wars fan base needs to be hand held

My bad

[alpine plover]

Theory 💀

[tired brook]

clearly you need to be because you're putting 2+2 together and coming up with 17

it is written as an end, yes

but nowhere does it imply death

[alpine plover]

We're just making assumptions

[tired brook]

which ive been saying this entire time

[alpine plover]

And then we'll go round in circles again and again

[rare jolt]

It would be like showing a character looking at the gallows before cutting to black and then being like uh you're just assuming that character dies ☝️ 🤓

[tired brook]

if the writers wanted her to die

why nit just have krennic shoot her in the back of the head

[alpine plover]

Well if we're given enough clues, that could easily be their fate.

[rare jolt]

They would have put her in the death prison

Oh wait they did

[alpine plover]

"Nar, I'll put ya in prison, mate."

[tired brook]

why didnt the writers just have krennic make her do this

[rare jolt]

Guys don't worry she's just in a death camp but she's fine

[tired brook]

labour camp

[rare jolt]

Death camp

[alpine plover]

Can we just drop this conversation? This is getting repetitive.

[rare jolt]

The entire plot twist of the prison arc was that it was a death camp

[tired brook]

guy who clearly doesnt understand WW2 tries discussing WW2 related subjects

[alpine plover]

[tired brook]

labour camp

you think labour camps are just gonna let prisoners leave

[rare jolt]

Ah yes all labor camps systematically designed to kill everyone working at it

It's almost like there's a word for that

[tired brook]

theres a difference between "worked to death" and "lets just kill a bunch of people because we can at random intervals"

[rare jolt]

They kill them because they're liabilities

They're working on the death Star which even if they don't know anything about is still a threat to the biggest secret in the galaxy

[tired brook]

theres no indication that shes dead

[rare jolt]

And they literally do kill people at random intervals

They kill an entire floor of prisoners simply because they learned the truth

[tired brook]

i.e "not random intervals"

[rare jolt]

The intention is 100% everyone working here is going to die

[tired brook]

your entire argument is based on assumptions and thus pretty fucking weak

[rare jolt]

That was the entire point of the arc

How did you miss that

[tired brook]

thats like saying X character died "because they fell down something" even though its a common trope that its a way to write a haracter out of a particular story without killing them

[rare jolt]

I guess Filoni shows really did more damage to people than I expected

[tired brook]

if she was meant to die

why didnt the writers just kill her

have her executed for being a traitor, easy

krennic straight up tells zesty ISB guy that if he fails him, he's being added to the fallen heroes roll of the ISB

[rare jolt]

Do you really need it spelled out to you?