Hitoshi Shinso

[placid basin]

yo how do you use it

[smoky tendon]

does it rely on waiting out special action?

[placid basin]

yo tell me the combo please

[modest ermine]

Is shinso easy to play

?

[oblique lynx]

https://youtu.be/9PVLOUhIFJA?si=ZWgXg2y6p5fZMqtZ

This combo doesn't work anymore it was really fun

Share the sauce bc the only combo we can do now is alpha beta

Unless u talking about doing melee

[sly fiber]

Nope

[sly fiber]

Yep, it’s mainly melee, and idk if I can record on switch lol i sadly don’t use pc anymore

The Nagant update fried the harddrive, so after fixing it, I haven’t re-installed it since

[oblique lynx]

Ow I see

[smoky tendon]

can you say the moves? my impression was the longest melee combos after the recent nerf now should be air melee m1 m2/beta/gamma beta
and m1 m1 m1 m2/beta/gamma beta
maybe m1 m2 alpha working based on stuff other characters got but none of that should do nearly that much damage

[sly fiber]

Idk how to explain itt :P

[smoky tendon]

fair >.<

[sly fiber]

Sryy

[smoky tendon]

dw lol

I'm just curious cause it shouldn't be possible anymore

[sly fiber]

It still is

[smoky tendon]

odd

[sly fiber]

They said deku’s infinite melee got fixed

It didn’t

[smoky tendon]

how many hits roughly is it if you can say?

[smoky tendon]

but that I understand cause the down power is still the same

max shinso combo should be 4 hits now

[sly fiber]

Probably like 8-9? Ish

[sly fiber]

No?

[smoky tendon]

huh, what are you hitting 👀
what did they mess up lol

[sly fiber]

Idkk, it’s kinda funny to me though

[smoky tendon]

cause there's no way that's intended lol

[sly fiber]

Another thing you can still do is an air melee, and do an alpha, and cut it halfway with beta, and do that twice

But that’s poorly explained

I think, anyways

[smoky tendon]

twice?

[sly fiber]

Yep

[smoky tendon]

dw I think I understand except for the twice part lol

maybe I'll play around with it when I hop on

[sly fiber]

Another “combo” I do is kinda frame-perfect, bc after the guard break, it’s a few seconds

Can’t call it that though, bc it’s not all in 1 go

[smoky tendon]

wake up catch would be two combos yeah

[sly fiber]

so yep

And apparently I’m evil for having 2 builds

One has space hop and ability manifest, for funsies

Mainly use that one for like, training

Bc a sibling of mine uses ofa deku, so space hop makes it more irritating

[smoky tendon]

hahahaha

[sly fiber]

On their behalf lol

But that’s deserved

[smoky tendon]

I'm sad space hop is probably his best tune now more so than it used to already

[smoky tendon]

yeah lol

[sly fiber]

Yerp

[smoky tendon]

also if you want we could perhaps hop in training later, so you could show the combos that way, I'm just not on the game rn

[sly fiber]

Suree, it’ll be atleast a few days though

I got college and things

…sadly

[smoky tendon]

sure no worries

[sly fiber]

-# someone do my calculus for me-

-# I don’t like thiss

[smoky tendon]

dw

[sly fiber]

@wide zodiac linkk, would you mind doing linear equations and calculus for me-

[smoky tendon]

-# hahaha I do like maths 😭

[smoky tendon]

how are linear equations and calculus in the same sentence 👀

[sly fiber]

Idkk

-# link is currently napping or smth probably. Sigh

[smoky tendon]

-# gg xcc

[sly fiber]

-# :3

[smoky tendon]

-# :33

[wide zodiac]

you think ik how to do that 😭

I CANNOT help

sorry girl

[livid rapids]

Before u could just do beta air melee beta

Day 1 shinso had a 620 dmg combo but they killed it sadly

Then before the air melee change his highest was like 525

[oblique lynx]

People complained about his dmg lmao

[violet kernel]

sad state rn ngl

can't do anything

he's truly "easy"

[oblique lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/braindead-cat-brain-damage-gif-583403308765934478

Shinso rn

[polar vale]

shinso is officially gutted

[peak nacelle]

i wouldn’t say gutted more like got power crept

[smoky tendon]

beta cd sucks, no combos sucks. he definitely got power crept hard but the nerfs are the main reason not to touch him for me

he's just brain dead AND bad now

previously the brain dead part was only optional at least 😭

[violet kernel]

can't remember the last time i actually had fun playing him

[smoky tendon]

can't remember the last time I played him >.<

[violet kernel]

when strike hawks dropped in s13 i dropped shinso mostly

and now i just play hawks

[smoky tendon]

very valid

[dense cobalt]

Yeah especially with aoe slops currently, ain't good for a 1v1 character like shinso
Unless u got a good team

[jagged ingot]

Shinso being a 1v1 character who sucks outside of it isnt even because of his lack of good aoe but due to the fact that every one of his moves keep you in place either when you use them, when you land them, or both. I never fail to land free damage on him for messing up one of my teammates.

[dense cobalt]

Real

[novel cosmos]

Shinso forever my goat!!

Although I lost🥲 the last team stayed ontop of hospital until end zone after I killed 2, they rez and stay up there 🥲

But fighting without levels is god awful

[jagged ingot]

50 damage alphas for the win

[alpine cairn]

shinso forgotten about 😔

[violet kernel]

no

he's just

in a spot right now

[dense cobalt]

Definitely forgotten

[hollow tulip]

I stand by he was over corrected

Esp considering what came out after his nerf lol

Damage or reloads not both needed to be hit

praying for a good double yellow build for him at some point

[shadow axle]

Bet ya she won't try that again

[warm arrow]

Any good tunings on cyber hero?

[violet kernel]

old clip right?\

cuz how we doing double beta

[shadow axle]

It's literally tday

[livid rapids]

Theres a bug

If u catch someone at the end of their roll (usually with a 500 dp move) they won't take kd power

I have a clip of this happening

Here's another example

I did it earlier today with supp nejire beta too just didnt get it

[smoky tendon]

bug abuse smh

I do hope it gets patched by season 27

[shadow axle]

Greatest instance of bug abuse

[livid rapids]

I'm immediately stealing this

[smoky tendon]

LOL

[dense cobalt]

Bro was in free fall😭

[sour badge]

😭

[restive jolt]

How does this new UA track suit skin stack up compared to his other builds guys?

[dense cobalt]

It's still one of he's best

Top 3

[jagged ingot]

we really sat here and watched this man shinso get gutted in real time

i will never forget this

maybe not even really performancewise more like funwise

air melee was his saving grace now you gotta play for wakeup catches even more than before

[smoky tendon]

yeah 😭

tbf with how high his beta cooldown is you can't even wake up camp as easily if you're not running space hop 😭

[jagged ingot]

yeah especially since its 3 charges shared between burst damage and mobility

[smoky tendon]

yup 😭

[violet kernel]

icl

that new shinso emote looking mad clean

played him most of tdy

had some good fun

but i was just doing the same thing so kind oring

[robust patio]

Hey- has anyone thought about whether Alpha>Ground Melee(loop)>Beta might be possible? Like- would you need to add a gamma before the melee and what not?
I know air melee now has too much KV, but ground melee was unchanged, and I haven’t seen anything about it.

[smoky tendon]

his ground melee was never used cause it always had too much downpower

if it had 1 less dp, it would work

it barely doesn't

AFO can do the shinso combo with his ground melee against enemies on hp still

but that's the closest you'll get to the old bnb combos sadly

his ground m1 is 125dp for some reason, his old air melee used to be 100

if they made ground melee 100dp now, that should be a lot more fun, though the combo range would be quite reduced I'd guess

[robust patio]

OOF- that makes sense actually. Sucks for y'all Shinso mains all the combos are gone

[smoky tendon]

I'm kinda lucky I never mained him but his combos were the main interesting thing in him for me

[dense cobalt]

Rip beta alpha

[smoky tendon]

rip beta air melee beta

[jagged ingot]

idek that was an option lol

i get the character was insufferable in 1v1s like aizawa but good lord they did him filthy an i planned on maining him

[dense cobalt]

The cd nerfs weren't necessary
Bro only has 2 dmg options
One being both he's dmg n mobility, and they decided to nerf that
Rip

[jagged ingot]

At this point time to swap to aizawa Hes just a better shinso at this point and can do significantly more damage depending how accurate your aim is

[dense cobalt]

He has always been better , unlike shinso, aizawa can handle a 1v3 more efficiently, more versatile movement and higher dps, not to mention he's endless string of combos

[alpine cairn]

does double beta only work with acceleration?

[pastel raven]

It's the roll bug

[jagged ingot]

yeah if anything aizawa is more of a strike than shinso while shinso is more of a technical than aizawa with his special action

and his gamma

[restive jolt]

No shield

[vague willow]

Anyone know any good combos? I only know like three for him

[dense cobalt]

Shinso and combos don't exist again

[hollow tulip]

It’s pretty funny

People complained about alpha beta Shinso

“That’s all they do!”

Now it’s all we can do 🤣

[vague willow]

Sigh they need to bring back the combos

[hollow tulip]

Took damage, combos and reloads

They gave us the rapid hawks treatment

Like buff the special or gamma something g

[dense cobalt]

Real

[smoky tendon]

the highest damage currently afaik is air melee alpha cancel into special action, wait for down power reset, gamma m1 beta
all that for a bit higher damage than alpha beta and two items xD

plus you need an air melee start (m1 m1 start works too but is even less likely, though a bit of extra damage if you can get it)

[prisma fjord]

Does the new event skin offer any fun Tunings or nah?

[smoky tendon]

I'm a wallrun enjoyer, so for me yeah

[vague willow]

I put it with acceleration 😭

[tacit dock]

Whats does the brainwash thing really do

[rugged zodiac]

If you’re talking about his Special action:

hit the opponent with a projectile, if they get hit they’ll drop 2 items. Once hit they will lose all movement control. You’ll be able to create a ping by pressing the special action button again and the controlled opponent will go there. This only lasts a few seconds.

If you’re talking about the gamma.
Once they get hit by it, they will become slower, and their screen will become foggy. Also, they won’t be able to tell who’s their teammate

[dense cobalt]

What he said

[smoky tendon]

also for gamma any attacks the brainwashed person takes will apply triple downpower

[dense cobalt]

Crazy they're still nerfing this man

[pastel raven]

The day before my friend used SA on someone and resd in front of them

Crazy how it gets patched immediately after

[vague willow]

Aw no that sucks

[hollow tulip]

Ridiculous lol

https://tenor.com/view/lmao-dead-stop-stop-hes-already-dead-the-simpsons-gif-15735025

[analog iris]

Guess I'm done bothering.

[dense cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/shinso-hitoshi-mha-my-hero-academia-gif-17357781651114815622

[jagged ingot]

these devs some garbage bro this man shinso is a free special action reload pack

[violet kernel]

already dropped the character a while back

not even fun

[vague willow]

At this point the main reason I play him is cause he’s my favorite character 😭

[jagged ingot]

That’s why I use him occasionally

I already lost interest when he lost his lost fun combo

[twilit vapor]

Fahh

Fihhhhskak

[blazing bridge]

Hm

[livid thunder]

we can't get finisher off on dabi anymore

[vague willow]

Actually?

[livid thunder]

I brainwashed one and try to finish him but he got up in time

maybe I wasn't as punctual but I felt like was

it was weird because I did the animation of throwing down the rock but he just revived lol

[vague willow]

Could it be cause they shortened it?

[livid thunder]

yeah that's what I assume

just another indirect nerf. I loved being able to just finish of dabis

[vague willow]

Me too

[soft pelican]

Is there a new tech out that let's you cancel the alpha binding over and over?

Just watched a Shinso bind my Dabi teammate 3 times in a row, skipping the slam part of the attack

[smoky tendon]

not new but that does work when grabbing someone high enough in the air.
the ammo for damage is definitely a tradeoff to be aware of though

[soft pelican]

This Shinso was on ground level and just repeatedly mashed the alpha binding without the slam 3 times in a row.

There's gotta be some new bug/tech for Shinso at this point

[smoky tendon]

I've seen a clip of an aizawa land grab and not pull this season again, which is an old bug. it might be back for all the ranged (and maybe non ranged) grabs then
probably it wasn't in the shinso's control to not get the slam

but I can't know for certain

[dense cobalt]

Ping

I've done it alotta times cuz my network was buns

Like this

U can pull it of on higher pings but there's no consistent way of doing it

[feral vector]

Shinso > Todoroki brothers

[vague willow]

The random beta at the beginning 😭

[wispy flint]

Do u guys exist

Shinso got hard nerfed i stopped maining him

[vague willow]

Yea I main him and yellow deku

[carmine hearth]

We are still here

[vague willow]

We’re just so rare

[jagged ingot]

I don’t main him anymore unfortunately that was when I was new to the game he was one of my first featured characters I got from rolls

[brave barn]

How did you do that what??

[shadow axle]

Patched now

[warm arrow]

Is the new casual style any good

[vague willow]

I can check

[warm arrow]

Deku shigaraki?

Or deku dabi

[vague willow]

I think that one would be fun

[warm arrow]

I want shinzo to get double assault

So I can go space hop yafo

[rancid ember]

It’s a bug

It binds the opponent but doesn’t knock them down

Only the first part of his alpha animation works

So you can spam it

[livid thunder]

he still doesn't have double assault?

[warm arrow]

no

[livid thunder]

I'm not even sure what the most OP special slots would be on him

[fast rapids]

Yo can sm1 tell me a good shinso build

Lowk new to him

Would acceleration and crushing pu charge be good

[jagged ingot]

The best build is to drop him and pick a new character

But if you wanna make it work go for a space hop build

Acceleration is good too it upgrades his mobility on his beta when active

[dense cobalt]

Go for s.hop

With he's cd nerfs , that's the best that can just up ur survivability for at least a pinkie

[fast rapids]

Tysm

[fast rapids]

Is he that bad😭

[vague willow]

He got nerfed pretty hard but I still think he’s fun to play

[violet kernel]

hm he's not very fun

you do the same 2 combos

and then you're punished for doing your combos

with insanely long cds

[vague willow]

I like swinging around and using his special action

And he’s also my favorite character so I’m a little biased

[violet kernel]

swinging around puts you on penalty for a good 10 seconds

and then his special doesnt even last anymore

[vague willow]

Yea but atleast you can rob people

They should really buff him

And bring back his combos

[fast rapids]

fr

im investing in him

[vague willow]

Do you have the costume from that event?

I use it and it’s pretty good I think

The uh

U.A. Track suit heat

[fast rapids]

I dont think so..

[jagged ingot]

Thats my only PUR for him

He was my first main I could never get a pur for him till he got nerfed tho

But they turned assault Shigaraki into an even bigger threat now so im happy to have a main get bugged

Buffed*

[livid thunder]

He’s honestly a counter to tech shigi

With space hop

[vague willow]

He used to be great at stopping Dabis from getting up but I think it stopped working cause of the nerf to his special action

[hollow tulip]

Still hilarious he’s gotten nothing but nerfs lol

Cuz how is this balanced lol

Bare minimum could’ve buffed the reload speed on the special or did any kinda buff to the gamma

But let’s buff iida lol

[fast rapids]

I saw that

Dude the special action is so good for just hitting them

Marking then away

And just leaving the other way

[dense cobalt]

Just a reload buff on beta will be nice
At the very least ion gotta be waiting for how long just to run and attack

[dense cobalt]

Heh
Can still hold up

[dense cobalt]

But man he's reloads are a drag

[vague willow]

Woah

Teach me your ways

[livid thunder]

Dial back on his damage but give him back his combo

He needs more agency to do things

I guess we wait for a QSS though

[vague willow]

You think it would be tech maybe?

[livid thunder]

100%

[jagged ingot]

He should have been tech on release

These devs are just slow and want to make the most random skillsets strike

Shinso has overall a lower damage output and lower mobility than aizawa with two gimmicky moves over aizawas one despite their roles

[livid thunder]

That is true. Not sure what kit they would give him that feels even more tech like than the current one.

You can only do so much with brainwashing without making it OP

[feral vector]

Funni beta

[visual chasm]

Is this guy alpha bugged or smthg

[smoky tendon]

grabs are all a bit inconsistent this season sadly, likely more inconsistent the higher the ping from what I've heard but not sure

[dense cobalt]

Yeah this szn

[dense cobalt]

Not a bad game in this economy as shinso

[vague willow]

Teach me your ways

[twin shoal]

I found this color suit bug, it would be cool if they add this but i think that's not gonna happen ✌🏻🥀

[vague willow]

Lmao how’d you do it?

It looks pretty cool

[dense cobalt]

They highkey gotta fix this man's alpha bug , it's annoying

[bitter remnant]

I like your profile picture

[bitter remnant]

That bug is rare

[dense cobalt]

Appreciated

[dense cobalt]

Naaa it's very common, especially on the slightest of low ping

[bitter remnant]

Not if anything is more common on Aizawa

[dense cobalt]

Don't use aizawa so I wouldn't know on him

[novel cosmos]

Shinso 10k.o My goat!! But space hop is 100% req!!

[twin shoal]

I wanted to change the suit to the normal hero costume (the villain color) so i guess i changed the suit fast and it was already bugged like in the picture. I Hope you can understand, my english is kinda homeless....

[analog iris]

If you're a coward.

[dense cobalt]

Wym coward

[dense cobalt]

Shinso buffs peak !

[carmine hearth]

LETS GOOOO WE BACK IN BUSINESS

[hollow tulip]

Had the pity the new outfit

Gonna try space hop and acceleration

[wary cloak]

what's the best build for Casual Costume?

(any variation)

[timid gull]

Wrong buff

[dense cobalt]

Improve reloads next
Trust

[timid gull]

Now we talking

[ember zealot]

space hop + wallrunner or space hop + gp sucker for his UA heat costume?

[dense cobalt]

I'd go w wall runner ngl

[smoky tendon]

if you know wallrun stuff wallrun imo

[glass zealot]

I just started playing shinso, I feel like his special action isn’t too useful considering there’s no real combo you can use for what I’ve seen that you can do to use his special action at the end, is there anything I’m missing?

[smoky tendon]

long message incoming but oopsies >.<
_

best "combo" with it is to wait for down power reset after the special, then use gamma m1 beta, or just (gamma) beta if you don't wanna have to wait

before the special I believe you can do air melee, two m1, an alpha cancel (hitting the grab hit of alpha only), or air melee / two m1 into an alpha cancel

and thus for full combos any combination of starts and closers described in the two paragraphs above should work, or just stick to the more standard m1 m1 m1 (gamma) beta / air melee m1 (gamma) beta, alpha (gamma) beta

it's main use is mainly to handle 1 vs many situations though where you can take out one person for a moment to either disengage or focus on the remaining enemies instead. bonus points if you can combo another person and the mind controlled person at the same time (imma add a video example once I get on pc in some hours, may need a reminder though)

another use is to stop someone from running away as I believe it has the furthest reach in his kit and the mind control aspect allows you and your teammates to catch up

oh also special to disengage works for 1v1s too obv

final notes:

• any appearance of (gamma) beta can be replaced with alpha / (gamma) air melee as well, which helps preserve beta charges (for mobility)
• also m1 m2 alpha is a combo too
• the special action combos don't do meaningfully more damage or more damage at all in a lot of cases but you do get free items (they only do more damage if you alpha cancel AND wait out down power reset)
• alpha cancel is free extra damage but using an alpha charge for only 30-40 damage will often not be worth it, at least at low alpha levels

[dense cobalt]

Shinso basically has one to zero combo game atm, shi was taken away
Best u can is just sum mild mix ups like air melee into gamma then beta on hp
Outside that, there's really nothing more ur doing than alpha beta

W air melee dp increased, u can't do much combos w it either compared to what u could do w it w accel

[smoky tendon]

writing my thingy I realized m1 m1 alpha cancel special, wait for dp reset, gamma m1 beta
is his longest most damaging combo he has currently but I've also become interested about the option of maybe hitting gamma [m1 miss] m2 vs aerial opponents, think air melee m1 gamma [m1 miss] m2 vs hp enemies
edit: alpha (gamma) [m1 miss] m2 is probably more useful

I'll try if that might be viable when I log on later

[smoky tendon]

here the promised video example as well of how special action makes situations vs multiple opponents much more manageable
https://medal.tv/games/my-hero-ultra-rumble/clips/mGPZWtAp0EBs_hElK?invite=cr-MSxTc3YsNTQyMzcyMzU4&v=31

(dunno how tamaki beta didn't hit me lol)

[rain locust]

Does shinso have any combos outside of just alpha beta?

Wanted to try and pick him back up again but idk

Nvm-

I just scrolled up

[prisma fjord]

Did Shinso get buffed, he feels a lot better to me now

[blazing bridge]

More alpha slam damage

[prisma fjord]

Neat

[dense cobalt]

So far, ts my favorite tuning for this skin

[fallow sky]

I've started playing Shinso and does anybody have recommendation on level priority?

[smoky tendon]

I personally do b4 a4 b9 a9 g4 but I barely play him at all

[fallow sky]

I am trying to see how it feels his gameplay since I've had him time ago but never tried, still thanks

[smoky tendon]

welcome 🫡

may your games be fun

[fallow sky]

Thanks , yours aswell

[dense cobalt]

Dang, gang missed on peak shinso

[fallow sky]

Oh

[analog iris]

I do B4, A4, G4, then max beta followed by alpha and gamma last.

[fallow sky]

Alrighty, I will keep note on that

thanks

[bitter tundra]

https://discord.com/channels/1143456120636198954/1507508577001275504

[feral vector]

AI Shinso is scary ;-;

[vague willow]

It really is

[hollow tulip]

lol prolly the best part of Shinso right now with all his nerfs was tht he countered armored moves guess thts gone

[dense cobalt]

Ggs

[hollow tulip]

lol gonna miss slamming Yafo during his gamma

[barren sigil]

someone on the modern dev team got traumatized by this man and it shoes

[carmine dagger]

So like who does Shinso even win against anymore?

[lapis silo]

Bro PLEASE DO A BUFF FOR SHINSO

[dense cobalt]

He lowk counters mirko ngl

[carmine dagger]

I mean if they don't use their gamma yeah

Her gamma blocks projectiles and Shinso's Alpha is a projectile

[dense cobalt]

Yh fo sure

[vague willow]

He really needs it

[analog iris]

Except she can special recover out of his alpha, so no.

[dense cobalt]

W