Hitoshi Shinso

[livid rapids]

Alr I might be tripping

[mint kraken]

redgemboi said aizawa and kurogiri were easy

[livid rapids]

Yea

[mint kraken]

which aizawa I can maaybe see but kurogiri nah

[livid rapids]

Which is wrong

[foggy sentinel]

No it’s just that they used the argument of “I play kurogiri” to downplay the skill it takes to play shinso

[livid rapids]

Aizawa has a low skill floor but high skill ceiling imo

[prisma fjord]

Reminded of a game I had playing Lady and a Kurogiri portaled me as I pressed my Special so he just teleported a Kaiju on top of himself it was the funniest thing lmao

[foggy sentinel]

Because they are

[mint kraken]

basically yeah

[glad trail]

i didnt 🙁

[foggy sentinel]

Yeah I probably shouldn’t have said they

[mint kraken]

I didn't use it to downplay the "skill it takes" to play shinso

I said it in response to this

"Me when a character is strong so apparently that means no skill"

I could've literally used any op character rn

well actually not any but theres a few

[sly fiber]

Can the two even be compared, they’re not even the same category

[livid rapids]

I'd say so

[glad trail]

i just think we need perspective. How many tiers we makn on an easy to "hard" tierlist? cuz if u try to make one, relatively theres no way kuro isnt on the upper end

[prisma fjord]

I think the only truly skilless character is Monoma. Constant free cooldown resets are the dumbest thing ever and should not be in the game.

[mint kraken]

im ngl I think Monoma takes more skill than Shinso nowadays

might be cruicified for that

[livid rapids]

Monoma has a really low skill floor and high skill ceiling

[mint kraken]

unless you run the compress alpha into deku gamma

then he takes no skill yeah

[livid rapids]

Even then tho id say shinso id easier than monoma

With floor

[foggy sentinel]

Most characters get slandered because they’re strong and people decide that means “no skill” so if they’re in like A (because powercreep is that bad rn) theyre getting called no skill

[sly fiber]

Shinso, and kurogiri. Which one’s low skill, that’s the argument

There’s no third character

And ppl have their own opinions

[prisma fjord]

I just see ones spam reset to fly away and spam Gamma invincibility it's not skillful at all and guarantees them 2nd place each time.

[mint kraken]

Again that wasn't my argument but ok

[glad trail]

lower* skilled?

[sly fiber]

Yeah, ig

[mint kraken]

250 hp tho

[sly fiber]

What was your argument then

[prisma fjord]

I repeat my statement

Dude deserves 150 HP at this rate.

If people are fine with cooldown resets lol

[mint kraken]

That I know what characters with skill look like that are also strong

[foggy sentinel]

Mostly nerf his gamma

Why give him an ability that makes him invincible on top of all he can do

[prisma fjord]

They don't playtest

[mint kraken]

It's much more manageable now

with only 2-3

He's not really an issue for me nowadays

[foggy sentinel]

Make it a simple damage reduction an actual cooldown and actual startup

[mint kraken]

it's the abilities that are OP mostly not him

[prisma fjord]

"only" bruh that's all he needs if he gets a single mobility quirk.
The Monoma downplay is insane to me.

[foggy sentinel]

Significantly more

Like dude him taking an alpha and being across the map from the base kit alone was stupid

[livid rapids]

I'd say monoma is still top 1 but that doesnt reason 150 hp

[foggy sentinel]

I’d say tech mirio is top one imo

[livid rapids]

Lowering his hp won't fix him

[prisma fjord]

Was hyperbolic but ye

[foggy sentinel]

Both are contenders

[prisma fjord]

Cooldown resets need to be removed and then he'll be balanced.

I don't care, there's no other way to fix a character this conceptually broken

When he can spam OFA Deku Gammas into Compress Alpha's, then land a strong Beta which can combo into itself

Doing all of this twice, three times if he's not dumb, is just too much lol.

[foggy sentinel]

Hey at least it isn’t five times with an unnerfed beta

[prisma fjord]

Anyway, Shinso is cool so far

[foggy sentinel]

They killed twice but grazed monoma like genuinely what is this

[foggy sentinel]

Pog

[mint kraken]

twice terrorised the game for too long ngl

Monoma will always be inherently busted because of how he's designed

[foggy sentinel]

The nerf was valid but too much

[mint kraken]

yeah was too heavy handed but oh well

[foggy sentinel]

I want my combos dude the damage can go

[mint kraken]

ngl for me on PC I don't think Twice was ever all that anyway

he always got beamed before he could get up close and do combos

[foggy sentinel]

Yeah that’s all you had to do

[mint kraken]

but when he got up close he was pretty annoying

[sly fiber]

Ig mb, never been great at reading ppl over text, and thought this was an argent, bc the mha community in general is one of the most toxic fandoms -_-

[mint kraken]

I was slightly salty at the start because I lost a game on rebirth of souls when I got replied to about shinso not being op but ya

also as someone who's been maining kurogiri since the start naturally hearing he's easy would make me irritated

considering I can still get massacared to this day

but otherwise was a good debate

[foggy sentinel]

Anyone can

It’s just the game nowadays one stagger and you’re dead

[mint kraken]

Nah it's red deku's with good aim

I played against one as yafo, couldn't do anything

[sly fiber]

🤦‍♂️ nvmd

[foggy sentinel]

Click click knockdown go brr

[mint kraken]

basically

but the stagger is also annoying

whenever you get trapped in a assault endeavour beta it's a 85% chance you're going to die regardless of hp and gp

monoma can do so many tods with it lol

[foggy sentinel]

Monoma can tod off anything istg

[mint kraken]

i think his tod's are overstated tbh because I only know of like 5

and two are really skillful/almost impossible to do

[foggy sentinel]

The problem is that a lot of them are just exodia combos

You’re never landing them in a real game

[mint kraken]

one involving an yellow allmight beta into yellow deku gamma into that deku's alpha into allmight beta into gamma into alpha until death

which sounds kinda easy on paper but hard af to pull off

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1374669272047030353/1426268087677878282/2FE1731.MP4?ex=6902562a&is=690104aa&hm=ac89ca4f02844d95381353ace0b478e6ee040dcfc1260954044bb4e0e8e138d0&

this one is pretty practical though

[foggy sentinel]

Reminder than assdeavor beta dp is like 150 max or something

If you land the full move

[mint kraken]

is that big or not I forget

[foggy sentinel]

All I remember is that it’s got a really low dp

And that the fire pushing you in is like 50

[mint kraken]

sounds about right

genuinely one of the best beta's in the game

[prisma fjord]

Assdeavor is strong asf but the bigger problem is this jerk doing the same thing but better

[mint kraken]

I like combining it with a ibara or compress alpha

[foggy sentinel]

Try yellow shig alpha

That’s great too

[mint kraken]

I don't think his alpha is all that

unless I'm wrong

[foggy sentinel]

Not alone but with assdeavor beta it’s pretty good

[prisma fjord]

I can't remember the last time I've seen a yellow shigi tbh

[mint kraken]

I see them every so often, rare but still

[prisma fjord]

I feel like any ground based moves are just more and more niche

Unless you can get in the air like Endeavor

[mint kraken]

well depends on the map I guess

and by map I mean UA since good luck having chaos city final circle land in an enclosed area

[foggy sentinel]

Ua it’s good

[mint kraken]

when it is in the prison area tho its cool

[foggy sentinel]

Anywhere else is just eh

[foggy sentinel]

Yeah

[prisma fjord]

UA Island is so good man

I wish the other 2 were in the same league 😮‍💨

[mint kraken]

my condolences Shinso mains

https://tenor.com/view/kagurabachi-if-you-laugh-if-you-laugh-you-go-to-hell-kagurabachi-if-you-laugh-speed-gif-7884817524351810051

[foggy sentinel]

Lowkey glad he’s getting nerfed

It’s deserved and probably won’t kill him

(Hes probably getting bombed lmao)

[half aspen]

The real shinso mains will cook

Matter how you Nerf him he’s still going to be a really good character

You’ll just be a lot less BS now

[foggy sentinel]

Beta will mostly be a combo ender now

Think tamaki

[half aspen]

Wasn’t it always? Outside of beta + alpha

[foggy sentinel]

Mostly yeah but I’m going under the assumption that it’s gonna be a hard knock

Or we might get a dp to were alpha hits but doesnt grapple

[dense cobalt]

Yup

As long as he's alpha gamma beta is still active we chilling
But rip beta into alpha

[foggy sentinel]

Rip beta air melee gamma beta

[prisma fjord]

I just got this guy I ain't gonna give up on him like some meta slave swine

https://tenor.com/view/shinso-hitoshi-mha-my-hero-academia-gif-2970387145288841782

Assuming he doesn't get absolutely gutted like Twice at least. I miss playing him but he is just Alpha spam now. 😔

[fathom cave]

SA makes him so funny

[sand tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/loufy42-light-yagami-death-note-gif-15248803

[shut tree]

Shinso didn't even get that big of a nerf

His beta damage and radius were untouched, alpha got a damage nerf which is good

And reload nerfs should decrease his spamming

[dense cobalt]

Yep
So we chilling

[prisma fjord]

I forget how afraid of nerfs people can be

I usually play Mt lady and she gets nerfed every other week.

Doesn't phase anymore lol.

[hollow tulip]

yea the shinso who didnt have a bag gonna just move to tamaki or eraser

but the mains gonna be fine

[analog iris]

It is what it is. I'm still playing him.

[dense cobalt]

As a hawks main, the shinso nerfs are light work, so glad it ain't anything serious

[hollow tulip]

lol fair point

but shinso was also never s7 hawks level lol

we never flew as close to the sun as you bro @dense cobalt

[mint kraken]

they not moving to aizawa

if they could they would've done it already considering aizawa's simple gamma into alpha slam does 400 damage

they use shinso cause he's an easier and faster killing aizawa

tamaki though probably yeah

[dense cobalt]

Sum peeps think sum nerfs gonna stop us XD

I like to see how this goes

[violet kernel]

like fr they just gonna make his alpha slam do less dmg and take away beta alpha

this is where we show them after nerfs they still gonna complain because that's how this community works

they complain until every character they can't fight gets nerfed but atleast the nerfs are fair 🤷‍♀️

[dense cobalt]

Ong

[violet kernel]

i play hime because i like combo characters and i thoguht he was hella cool in the anime so not dropping him anytime soon

[analog iris]

got people who genuinely think Shinso should be a simple raw damage character like that's gonna fix what people don't like about him

[violet kernel]

maybe this creates more combos?

who knows we'll have to see

i dont see why yellow ochaco got a nerf tho i believe blue deserved it more although yellow also has a tod

[analog iris]

Lowers combo potential by making his beta cause knockdown sooner(higher down power is likely what they're doing), thereby making him a simpler fighter and not even changing what people hate about fighting him. Especially space hop users as they'll just immediately jump after landing beta and do it again on wakeup.

[violet kernel]

oh

so

just less alpha dmg but making him more annoying 😭

these are valid nerfs imo

[analog iris]

Less damage over all and simpler playstyle

People will still complain I guarantee

Which is why I'm done justifying myself

I'm gonna play my character

Simple as

[violet kernel]

tha't's a no-brainer

they'll always complain until he gets nerfed to the ground (where he cant even do alpha into alpha

then they'll be happy

[analog iris]

I don't care anymore

Whatever happens, happens

[dense cobalt]

Do as you're told

[fathom cave]

No no no no my RES CARD AND TEAM HEAL NO

[waxen token]

The reason shinso is no skill is the guaranteed gb guys

He gets a free stun and gb

You win every encounter no matter what unless it’s a 2v1

[foggy sentinel]

Fun fact that doesn’t make him no skill that makes him strong

[waxen token]

Alpha is all it takes to win I would put beta in there because of the new movement buff but honestly a new player ain’t doing all that

[waxen token]

Even the shinso bots are the strongest in the game bro that’s how no skill the character is

We’re not downplaying your skill or whatever just saying he’s a easy character

[foggy sentinel]

That doesn’t make him no skill

All bind characters are strong on ai as they rarely ever miss their shots

[mint kraken]

you can't fix what people dont like about him the most without remaking his kit

so the most they can do is lower damage somewhat and inrease reload cooldowns

which were needed

[waxen token]

Dude he’s a no skill character you can have skill with him to do certain stuff but his base kit by itself is literally no skill bro

Just alpha beta

[analog iris]

I agree, doesn't mean people will suddenly think that he's balanced.

[waxen token]

Get all new players in a solo lobby and the shinso wins

All I’m saying

You can have skill with him to do certain things but he’s a no skill character

[mint kraken]

all depends on how big the dp and damage nerfs are

but aizawa only got about -20 damage nerfs for his gamma and alpha so I'm not expecting anything heavier for shinso

[analog iris]

People just don't like being grabbed

[waxen token]

You can’t nerf shinso it’s impossible we all just have to live with the goat

[mint kraken]

I don't mind being grabbed but I think shinso just fires his alpha too fast and I dislike him being able to guard break me in 2 buttons

[analog iris]

That's fair

[mint kraken]

even iida who I despise has to hit 3

although he doesn't have to aim it as much per say

[waxen token]

Even if he didn’t your still losing as long as that alpha stuns he’s styling on you

[analog iris]

If it were up to me, Shinso would be tech and have more combo focus.

[mint kraken]

they should maybe buff his gamma more to do that kind of playstyle

[waxen token]

Keep in mind shinso can alpha special action wait until the end beta then alpha again

[analog iris]

But they made him strike so i guess they just slapped big damage on him and called it a day.

[mint kraken]

not really a shinso main but I saw you bring it up on reddit how long it lasts compared to trance blow

lol

[foggy sentinel]

Again this is just incorrect

[analog iris]

Honestly just delete trance blow

[waxen token]

Alright red you got it bro

😭

[foggy sentinel]

Not a single character is no skill as there is always an aspect to him that requires skill in some form

[waxen token]

This is insane cope

😭

[mint kraken]

I think it was fine until rapid deku, maybe could've used like 10s less

[foggy sentinel]

Bro cant comprehend the fact that strong characters exist

[mint kraken]

but now they have a character who has free easy access high dmging melees yeah its annoying

[analog iris]

Should never have exceeded the base duration of the actual gamma.

same with perception

[mint kraken]

I think their thinking was that the conditions to activate it were harder

[analog iris]

It never was with some characters

[mint kraken]

which is only true depending on the character ofc but to compensate it your downpower was increased massively

but rapid deku gets away with it cause his dp on melee is low af

[analog iris]

That's just the effect of the brainwash state

[mint kraken]

I know basically no aizwas were running trance blow cause like

you ruin your combos

[analog iris]

exactly

[waxen token]

Trance blow is only for characters that has no knockdown beams

Like twice can trance blow into alphas done it before his nerf

Think you still can

[foggy sentinel]

Not to the same extent

[mint kraken]

twice clones being able to use melee tuning is really funny

[foggy sentinel]

It’s just weaker on him now

[analog iris]

Twice was the biggest trance blow offender pre nerf

Honestly still would be if not for ofa

[waxen token]

I’ll admit I ran perception and trance blow

No kill escaped

😭

[mint kraken]

some AFO's were running it I think

made the gamma harder to escape

[analog iris]

https://tenor.com/view/incredibles-anger-dinner-gif-24715254

[waxen token]

You mean the charged alpha

[mint kraken]

eh you already got that guaranteed with a gamma

[waxen token]

You still can beta into a m1 into charged alpha if you run trance blow

On afo

[mint kraken]

did not know that

[waxen token]

Just not optimal

[mint kraken]

y not

[waxen token]

Most characters can fly now most of the time you land beta there in the air

Or there team is around

Still works if you want to just situational

[violet kernel]

sorry that's not fully true

[waxen token]

I do not disagree

[dense cobalt]

Don't u hv any other better shi to do than to come here n yap when no one asked

[violet kernel]

ong

[dense cobalt]

Every time Bro does absolute nothing and comes And yap shinso when last I checked no one gaf or asked
Starting to pmo lowkey

Go to the afo section and yap afo all u want n shi
Not come here n downplaying the character

Guess I tweaked a lil,
Just wanted to get shi of my chest

[smoky tendon]

yeah that one makes me a lil sad ngl, that's like the most skill intensive thing he had outside of special action stuff, he's gonna be even more boring now 😭

[foggy sentinel]

Yeah I feel the same

[hollow tulip]

lol he prolly mad cuz its so fun to bully afo with shinso

[prisma fjord]

I've gotten the hang of Shinso a bit and wow, I can see why this guy needs a nerf lol

I legit spent my last match bullying all 3 members of another team with the Alpha and Beta, also Gamma to slow them down, if I had the heals I feel like I could have snuck a comeback

Hope they don't do him like Twice though, he should still be fun

[smoky tendon]

yeah I've been playing him a bit more now as well now that beta air melee gamma beta's days will come to an end

and I must say he was surprisingly more fun than I remembered

maybe because there's actually other strong characters now, and I'm learning alpha air melee gamma beta vs shield from every possible angle, so I've had something to get better with as well

think I'll likely still try him some more even after the nerfs, dipping my toes back in was surprisingly fun

just wish I had tuning options besides U.A. uniform...

[prisma fjord]

Same. At least it has pretty decent Tunings.

[dense cobalt]

When you're getting packed but remember nejire is the opp

[violet kernel]

i have every costume other than ua costume

i wasn't serious abt the game in s10

i just rolled him got him and left

[violet kernel]

nejire players always attack me when they're low

[dawn bobcat]

Hey dad what’s a Shinso nerf…

[waxen token]

The jokes write themselves wrote a whole paragraph on how im downplaying shinso 😭 😭 😭

[foggy sentinel]

Kid just doesn’t like shinso lmao

[dense cobalt]

Real , lmao

[real path]

every costume except new 1

[dusty storm]

Cyber hero with acceleration slot or

A yellow and pur slot

You run all factor release + critical permeation

[real path]

ok thank u

what a fast reply back

[dusty storm]

Ahahaha

I hated being replied late so I made sure to always reply as fast as I can 💀

[dusty storm]

The all factor release might be his new best tuning with all cooldown nerfs that’s going to happen

[real path]

same understandable

[real path]

ok thank u

[mint kraken]

I hope your main gets gutted

"he needs to aim" btw

nah he just needs to hit within 20 feet of you

[violet kernel]

😭

insane team combo 😭 you got hit by shinso beta then his alpha fter your wakeup the blue deku beta

[mint kraken]

not really mad about the shinso beta, was my fault for going close

getting hit behind a wall however

[violet kernel]

yeah no he's bugged rn

[mint kraken]

a result of his very generous hitbox

not a bug

[violet kernel]

that's not your fault

it tped behind the wall 😭

hopefully they fix the tp thing

cuz i think i have a clip of when i was playing aizawa and it like dragged them through the staircase thing on ua map

[violet kernel]

yeah

lets see what happens

could be bad or could be fine but i doubt the nerfs are gonna change much

[dense cobalt]

Wait so are the shinso nerfs tomorrow

[woven wyvern]

Yes

[dense cobalt]

Oof, guess I'll be using shinso all through the night then

[woven wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/hitoshi-shinso-shinsou-hitoshi-shinsou-mha-gif-1544711275246289285

[violet kernel]

i've been playing nonstop

i want to see the difference tmrw

[dense cobalt]

We hope it ain't anything crazy

[fallow venture]

It will be crazy

Hoping for nothing big as if you Shinso's aren't the easiest 3rd party character to play.

[violet kernel]

why are we lying 😭

you are comparing a sing target character with his aoe move also serving as his only mobility option

to compress and yellow endeavor

the 3rd party kings

[fallow venture]

"b-but you have to aim 🥺👉👈"
Tech Mirio players say the same thing, and look at how strong he is.

[violet kernel]

i mentioned aim where?

you called him a 3rd party character

and i proved that wrong so you mention aim?

and i dont understand why you're complaining if you have ibara in your name in case you forgot her gamma can go 250 upwards dmg, her alpha does 180 and she has 2 insta rez's yet her mains claim she needs "aim"

so your argument is?

im not downplaying him y any means

[violet kernel]

but your statement is just wrong 🤷

[foggy sentinel]

Remember hes getting a nerf theres less reason to complain

[fallow venture]

Difference here, Ibara set is more close combat based, aside from A, along with no mobility (not including T.U.N.I.N.G)
Shinso can deal damage from a safe distance, as well as give himself the height advantage, making closing quarters a lot easier. His B is AOE, and does a lot of damage, so his combos are very punishing over one interaction.

I'm saying he very much needs this nerf. How you said it, it's almost like you don't want him nerfed.

[foggy sentinel]

Also I personally don’t find much issue with him the majority of the time but I also play him so I know the inner workings of how he plays

Two top tiers fighting is kinda funny because we’re both broken and both need nerfs but we’re also both mad about the other being broken so it just goes nowhere lol

[violet kernel]

we dont want him to get gutted

because if we leave it into the hands of people who complain everywhere they're just gonna gut him and move onto their next problem

there's a difference between a nerf and gutting

[foggy sentinel]

I’m just saying I saw an uptick in shinso hate after twice got gutted

And I don’t want another main to lose all his combos

[violet kernel]

that's how this community works ngl

we just complain gut characters and move on

[foggy sentinel]

I don’t care how bad he gets nerfed as long as he has some fancy combos I’ll be happy

[violet kernel]

i hate seeing charcets get gutted

like the state at which twice is

[foggy sentinel]

some damage reductions some cooldown reductions and a 500 dp beta won’t even that bad imo

[violet kernel]

i feel like they gotta be careful witht the reload nerfs

[foggy sentinel]

It’s hurt but hed still maintain himself very well

[violet kernel]

reloads can really hurt a character

[foggy sentinel]

Absolutely

[violet kernel]

for example hawks special action

[foggy sentinel]

However even though it’s a multi use move I do think that his beta has a little bit low of a cooldown

[violet kernel]

i never realized how bad the cooldown and actual usuage percentage rate were

[foggy sentinel]

Like one or two seconds more but nothing overly crazy should make it perfect

[violet kernel]

yeah a slight increase is fair

[foggy sentinel]

Especially since you can make it reload midair

[violet kernel]

but to me a good nerf would have been alpha dmg decrease and beta dmg toned down but keep the combos

[foggy sentinel]

As long as his sa is unchanged he still has all his fancy stuff

I assume beta will be an insta hard knock after this patch so it’ll just be a combo finisher like tamaki

[violet kernel]

yeah

i think beta alpha is getting taken away

[foggy sentinel]

Yeah that’s not terrible

[violet kernel]

i just hope people still dont complain after this

because i think beta hradkocking is gonna be more annoying

cuz imagine getting hardkocked

[foggy sentinel]

Oh most definitely

[violet kernel]

they space hop and hardknock you again

[foggy sentinel]

Defo gonna be hard to deal with

[dense cobalt]

They're just coping atp bruh
Best to ignore em

Just watch, after he's nerfs peeps still gonna complain about him

Mhur community in a nutshell

[foggy sentinel]

Hes a grapple character it’s bound to happen

He pierces armor so people are gonna be annoyed no matter what

Same would happen with tamaki and aizawa if they got gutted

[dense cobalt]

Yup

[violet kernel]

i feel like if the shinso nerfs are really bad the meta slaves are just gonna move on to tamaki and get him nerfed

because tamaki has all the annoying aspects

and more alphas

[foggy sentinel]

As per usual

[violet kernel]

and tracking so i see him becoming meta next season

along with pruple afo

[hollow tulip]

RIP beta alpha lol

Was one of my favorite things

[signal coral]

Dang they got yall too

😭

[smoky tendon]

I honestly like that the removal of beta alpha / beta start combos makes space hop more worse than other tunings most likely, though you can still jump up and alpha beta them on wakeup sooo

[shut tree]

Lmao the nerf did nothing but nake space hop shinso less braindead

Tho beta alpha was too busted glad they removed it

Now he's nore similar to tamaki

My favourite conbo still works so im fine

[foggy sentinel]

We chill

[dense cobalt]

So how's the nerf
Ain't home to try it out yet

[foggy sentinel]

I haven’t played a match I just tested some characters and got on smash but I think it’s pretty good

It hurt some characters that needed it and some that didn’t really need some crazy changes don’t feel that different

Ochaco lost her tods

So overall I’d say it’s a decent patch

[dense cobalt]

We're cheering with ts 🍻

[smoky tendon]

by one alpha, pretty sure gamma alpha alpha beta spin throw is still a thing, just you can't connect alpha after. don't understand the combo fully so idk if you can double alpha in the middle always but still...

infinite gp stun being gone is amazing though

[lavish fulcrum]

best tuning on shinso?? Acceleration + space hop? or replace space hop for another melee perk. Why is space hop even good

[hollow tulip]

i get ppl complaining about the damage but i dont agree with damage AND reload

should have done damage and if his win rate was still super high then do reload too

like we've all said all the good shinso will still be fine

just annoying

[dense cobalt]

Cuz space hop saves alot of ur resources and cds, also peak for wake ups and chases
It's literally top 1 shinso tuning comp

[dense cobalt]

Agreed

[hollow tulip]

couldve buffed the gamma or SA or something lol

[dense cobalt]

We chilling

[hollow tulip]

did i misread what person said earlier?

is there a space hop/accel build?

i been rocking the ua gym uniform so i havent even looked at tuning in forever lol

[shut tree]

im gonna miss beta into alpha

shinso still is op tho dont get me wrong

[dense cobalt]

Same and he's hero cyber

[violet kernel]

i use cyber

[dense cobalt]

Since crit perm was gutted guess I'll hv to change it up on cyber

Perhaps fixer or hsr

I wished he had a solid fixer build tho

[violet kernel]

i've been using fixer

i go up to like 310 hp and 275 gp

cuz the build has a lot of green slots

[dense cobalt]

I don't fw green slots
I'm all in for them reds

[smoky tendon]

nope, think they must have meant individual tunings

[sour badge]

How are you fine ladies & gentleman handling your shinso nerf?

[warped jay]

That'd be a sick build though I'd run it

[smoky tendon]

I mean yeah lol everyone would be on that build if it existed lol

one way or another, like if it's general assault people would run quirk factor or embrittlement instead

but it would be the meta build

[warped jay]

Yeah I'd rather do Embrittlement because I like big numbers

[smoky tendon]

meant to say some people btw

most would still run space hop lol

I'd run quirk factor most likely

[warped jay]

Both would be good

[smoky tendon]

yep

[violet kernel]

fine

[dense cobalt]

Yeah the nerfs did nun to him, outside the beta alpha he still feels very good lol

[violet kernel]

im playing him rn

[pastel tiger]

Where do we think Shinso is in the meta now?

[smoky tendon]

I'm happy that I still have this stuff to get more consistent with

https://outplayed.tv/my-hero-ultra-rumble/ed0ag5

so he's still interesting for me to play

[violet kernel]

yeah same

been bouncing people around with melee all day

[dense cobalt]

High A tier

[compact steeple]

I have 200 exchange points and am considering grabbing shinso, for the shinso-heads in here do yall think he is still competitive?

I also wouldn't have an costumes for him so tunings aren't in the picture for rn

[dense cobalt]

Yup he's still comp

[compact steeple]

good to know, rn I'm between shinso or tamaki but slightly leaning more towards shinso

plus I know trance blow is still really good

[dense cobalt]

Tamaki has more of an edge over shinso rn but he works

[smoky tendon]

both are total menaces you really can't go wrong

[hollow tulip]

Tbh yall

These damage nerfs are fine

But these reloads makes me not even wanna use him

They ain’t need to do both of these lol

[foggy sentinel]

He feels fine to me

[hollow tulip]

It’s just tht beta reload

[dense cobalt]

Yh
Lowkey sucks

[violet kernel]

it makes him less early game friendly

the reload nerfs are a lil bad but not gutting per say

[foggy sentinel]

Again I still don’t think theyre that bad

[hollow tulip]

cuz this is 2 beta reload hits within the season right?

[foggy sentinel]

pretty sure

[compact steeple]

so what's his combos now look like and what are his level order prio?

[dense cobalt]

Beta 4, alpha 4 ,max beta ,max alpha

[hollow tulip]

this right here is why they should've buffed the gamma lol

jk jk

[dense cobalt]

Blud Def crashed out after this lmao

[violet kernel]

permeation working for the other side

[wary dagger]

How’s shinsos after the patch

[warped jay]

Still good just not as oppressive

[wary dagger]

Bet

[sly fiber]

Boo

[arctic blaze]

I got shinsou twice but no nameplate yall know anything about this ? 🫩

[smoky tendon]

yeah I got neji again and no nameplate

I'm wondering if pulls before this season don't count or if it's bugged somehow

[hollow tulip]

Pulls before this season don’t count

[smoky tendon]

gg 😭

[analog iris]

I was somehow hit by an enemy Shinso with a beta into alpha.

[smoky tendon]

I kinda predicted this before clicking the vid but he caught you right at the end of a roll. there's a bug where if you get hit at the very end of a roll you may not correctly enter hard knockdown. so far I've only seen it get triggered by 500dp moves, so for now I'll start assuming it's limited to 500dp moves that catch the end of a roll and allow for exactly one follow up hit after

hope it gets fixed soon but I sorta doubt it

[analog iris]

That's incredibly strange

[smoky tendon]

yeah :c

other noticeable mentions are strike kendo charged alpha and tamaki beta as moves that some people do this with

[warped jay]

Can confirm I get a lot of hits I shouldn't with beta into alpha as Tamaki

[smoky tendon]

evil

[warped jay]

:3

He does need nerfs though speaking of Tamaki hopefully he gets them next patch

[honest dirge]

Yeah I done that somehow as well when I was playing him

[foggy sentinel]

if someone snags your roll properly you can get hit again

thats why you only got hit back and not grappled after

[dense cobalt]

Random all might stray lmao

[prisma fjord]

True definition of wrong place, wrong time

[dense cobalt]

How does one loose to a nejire on a 1v1 as shinso
That's sounds like a meme ngl

[brave barn]

Aizawa , shinso combo ngl is very toxic but fun at the same time

[dense cobalt]

True

One of the perfect duos in mhur

[brave barn]

Am i the only one that when i brainwash someone i just make them leave the fight and target their teammates

I think that is the right use of shinso sp

[mint kraken]

“Leave the fight”

Bro it lasts for like 10 seconds if that

they can just come back

[foggy sentinel]

Yeah it’s less than ten seconds

[bitter remnant]

DID HIS ALPHA JUST GO THROUGH A WALL?

[sly fiber]

It can, but it’s a “rare” thing

It’s not necessarily through a wall directly, it’s a glitch if you’re like, going to a corner or smth and use alpha on the way there if that makes sense, you’re not behind the wall to finish the alpha

[bitter remnant]

Oh ok

Thanks

[sly fiber]

Idk if i’m making sense rn, bc i just woke up-

Mb:P

[foggy sentinel]

Yeah no you got it

[slow frost]

Any recommended tuning for Shinso?

[bitter remnant]

Kota finder and space hop

[slow frost]

Returned after an almost 2 year hiatus :D

[dense cobalt]

I just use sp, collect loot, brainwash , then beta
Can't let miss on that dmg

[dense cobalt]

Crit perm will power s.hop
Other good tunings are accel(doesn't really change much to gameplay except sum combos), hsr ,Qfr

[slow frost]

Still quite new to the tuning but thanks for the suggestions!

Space over spiral?

[dense cobalt]

By a margin

[smoky tendon]

uh spiraling leap ruins his alpha to air melee combo game iirc

so imo 100% space hop out of the two

[slow frost]

Thanks for explaining

[violet kernel]

what about space hop AND spirialing leap im yet to test that ?

[dense cobalt]

S.leap waste of slot , cuz u already got s.hop tbf and it ruins your air melee combos

[slow frost]

Anyone have the data for his special action, how long is the stun?

[tawdry cove]

any good tunings for track suit on shinso

[warped jay]

If you wanna be a menace Crushing PU Charge/Willpower and Space Hop

[tawdry cove]

i had ability manifest on mine

[warped jay]

That's good too

[tawdry cove]

is the usual a 9 b9 g9 still work?

[warped jay]

I don't play him because I don't have him so I'm not too sure but from what I've played of him I like doing alpha 4 -> beta 9 -> alpha 9 -> gamma 9

[tawdry cove]

his shinobi pur shoulda had a mask

if there was a persona crossover shinso would look good in jokers outfit

[warped jay]

If My Hero Academia crosses over with Persona 5 I will be incredibly surprised

[dense cobalt]

Lowkey miss shinso beta combos

Sigh sucks they just get knocked after one beta

[prisma fjord]

Valiant price to pay to not be considered broken ig

[dense cobalt]

🥀 shoulda just kept the dmg n cd nerf ngl but oh well

[smoky tendon]

I woulda liked a hefty beta damage nerf but keeping downpower the same, mainly punishing the alpha beta spammers

[versed pelican]

Remove shinso

From the game

[violet kernel]

you're like 3 months late

been there heard that

[versed pelican]

Remove shinso

[violet kernel]

why?

[violet kernel]

got any reasoning?

oh i see

you main nejire 😭

[versed pelican]

Yeah im sick of being pulled out the of air

Then when I got pulled out of the air

Getting one shot combo'd

[violet kernel]

LOL

i bully nejire's too often

lwk just hate her froppy and ochaco in the game

[versed pelican]

I dont play nejire much anymore, ive been using technical toga and rapid might a bit more since rapid might's buff

I just genuinely hate shinso's range, id be fine with it if he couldnt snipe you from 70 feet away

[dense cobalt]

Bro said alpha beta spammers like that's not he's entire kit

Let's fight with just gamma and sa, smart one

[foggy sentinel]

Melee

He still has great meleed

[dense cobalt]

Melee in a game of infinite aoe and beamers
Sure..!!

[foggy sentinel]

You’d be surprised how good it is

[dense cobalt]

Tamaki has more range btw lmao

[versed pelican]

Ik, the difference is that tamaki cant grapple, grapples

And 99% of the people who use tamaki cant play him

[foggy sentinel]

Tamaki’s alpha beats out the other grapples

So yes he can

[foggy sentinel]

Yeah they just press gamma and pray they win

[versed pelican]

Yes can NOT combo his grapple with another grapple 😭

[versed pelican]

Yeah, or grapple then use beta

[foggy sentinel]

Did you not read what I said

Also the way you worded it made it sound like he couldn’t fight aizawa or shinso

[versed pelican]

What i meant was that he can combo his grapple with a grapple, then run around a corner, come back, grapple and then beta, then if the shinso's maxed then you're either dead, or one shot

[foggy sentinel]

Don’t act on wake up and try to read him

[versed pelican]

Thats what I generally do yeah

[smoky tendon]

I mean beta start combos were fun, also yeah melee is fun too

I'm still aiming to become consistent doing alpha air melee (gamma) beta on shield without accel

I feel it might be sorta possible

[wooden dagger]

This character needs nerfed bro

[violet kernel]

WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT?

like do you want him to do 5 damage?

there's no way people still aren't complaining about tamaki 😭

[wooden dagger]

Nah bro
This character on console is a demon
That aim assists makes this character basically hit skin
His attacks need a slow deploy time or something, cause for as many alpha shots as he has good luck avoiding them

Sun eater atleast has some level of send out time
Shinso is just wherever your aiming

[violet kernel]

tamaki has 7 at lvl 9 😭

aizawa has the same amount of alphas

[wooden dagger]

They’re both as bad pretty much
I hate fighting them both

They land one attack and you lose your entire shield

[violet kernel]

well people are never going to like them but it's how they're designed

[violet kernel]

there's worse things in this game rn than aizawa and shinso

[wooden dagger]

Aizawa just needs his movement reduced cause he has better movement than most rapids as a technical
And Shinso just needs his attacks to deploy slower

[wooden dagger]

Idk man, playing through rank they’re basically the worse for me to run into
Maybe a few exceptions like trance blow rapid dekus
But the list ain’t long

[violet kernel]

i can make a list rn

assault endeavor with any low knockdown beamer is a TOD

[wooden dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903

[wooden dagger]

BOY 😭😭
Assault endeavor is not bad
I can’t remember the last time I fought one and hated it more than Shinso or Aizawa
Endeavor is just keep moving and avoid the gamma

[violet kernel]

you cant be fr

[wooden dagger]

Been ace rank for the past few seasons and I’d much rather run into either endeavor than Shinso or Aizawa
I see those 2 and just hate the game

Sun eater tho with that beta is rlly annoying
That tracking is WILD

[violet kernel]

yeah

it i

very fast

[dense cobalt]

Just say u hate fighting shinso cuz no matter how much they nerf bro, your sorry ahh will still complain either way lol

[dense cobalt]

Tamaki is still untouched btw and has more ammo and range lol

[foggy sentinel]

???

It’s the same my guy

[dense cobalt]

They just saying anything atp🥀

[foggy sentinel]

The biggest problem with tamaki isnt even his beta itd the fact he has like 7-8 grapples that he can spam for free guardbreaks

[dense cobalt]

And the range of that shi is insane, u can be 60ft in the air and still yoinked to the ground lol

[wooden dagger]

I hate fighting him because he’s a low skill character that gets unmatched value off it
Console players do nothing and let aim assist do all the work

It ain’t that complicated bro, nerf him down a bit and maybe he’ll be fun to run into

[prisma fjord]

idk I think Shinso is pretty manageable now

there's much more notably toxic things to deal with

[foggy sentinel]

He’s very easy to read imo

[prisma fjord]

like Assault Endeavor shredding orphans for breakfast

that dude's aoe moves are insane

[foggy sentinel]

Sure alpha alpha is annoying but he’s limited to few options at different ranges and can only really punish you

Bait and punish shinso is terrifying to fight but very easy to manage

[dense cobalt]

Your definition of fun is butchering the character so you would fight him less in your games right
Aight Mr smart guy

[prisma fjord]

can we not butcher characters and call it balance

[foggy sentinel]

Yeah and can we also rebuff twice

[prisma fjord]

poor Twice is still just an Alpha spammer lol

[foggy sentinel]

Just reduce alpha damage more and his combos are fine

[prisma fjord]

Mt Lady lost any value besides her Special

then we get weird cases where a character isn't bad but they're used so rarely that they get busted buffs

Ibara does not need 2 insta rev charges I will die on this hill lol

[dense cobalt]

Real

[prisma fjord]

it annoys me how they just don't do simple damage adjustments, they prefer completely changing how a character functions

often making them much less fun

[dense cobalt]

Rap hawks n Mt lady are good examples

[prisma fjord]

can't even remember the last time I saw rapid Hawks lol

[wooden dagger]

Butchering him would be increasing his cooldowns significantly and completely removing his combos
His kit is very strong as a whole, butchering him would be pretty extreme
Suggesting a balance for an overly strong character isn’t unreasonable Mr.Dramatic

[wooden dagger]

Saw one today and it always catches me off guard

Imo the worst thing they did to him was reduce his special action

They never should’ve touched it

[foggy sentinel]

Itd be reasonable if you weren’t actively trying to kill him

A perfect example is twice they took away his combos and now look at him

[wooden dagger]

Making it so his alpha requires skill and timing to aim is killing him?
He’s hit scan on console bro, everything but balanced for how much damage he does

[foggy sentinel]

You do realize that your changes actively make him less skilled correct

You are asking to remove his combos and routes

And along with that you think it’s hit scan because you’re fighting too close to him maybe back up a bit learn to read a single attack in the game and you’ll have a better time

[wooden dagger]

Bros jumping to conclusions like he’s an Olympic jumper 😂
Ya bro, whatever suits your fancy man
Just keep getting carried by your crutch character and denying he’s op

[foggy sentinel]

Can you point out where I denied the fact he is strong?

And you can call me carried but I know full well I’m not carried as I actually put time into characters I enjoy for sure making me better as I can fight a character without needing them to literally be bottom 1 to win

Learn the matchup I beg it is not hard to adapt

[violet kernel]

this is my problem with this community

the moment you have one bad encounter with a character the character needs nerfs

they took away his beta-alpha which was prolly the most skilled thing he had

and i said that even after that people will still complain

HIS ALPHA IS NOT HITSCAN

it has travel time

like im not saying he his not strong but

TO ME THERE'S WORSE IN THIS GAME

like way worse

[dense cobalt]

Mf they've already greatly reduced he's combo game wit he's most recent nerf and increased he's cooldowns and nerfed he's dmg
Go cry about getting diffed in another channel or sum lmao

[dense cobalt]

Why we lieing,bro doesn't even know what hitscan is XD
Dude just pack it up
We could care less bout your opinion
Get better

[dense cobalt]

It's always the white names with the most skill issue ngl

[foggy sentinel]

Nothing in this game is even hitscan too lmao

[foggy sentinel]

No he has melee and brainwash combos

Theres more than comboing out of beta

[dense cobalt]

Closest thing we got to hitscan in this game is redeavor alpha, can't think of anything more

[foggy sentinel]

Strikego alpha is close but not quite

[dense cobalt]

Yh

[foggy sentinel]

I mean technically strikedeavor alpha is hitscan after it comes out but the beginning of the beam isnt

So it both is and isnt

[wooden dagger]

Bad encounter 💀
Bro this character has been a problem for SEASONS
Suggesting a change means gutting the dude?
Ya bro community of literal children that can’t handle people with different opinions 😂
One word “nerf” and your entire fandom loses it

[wooden dagger]

“Greatly”
What kind of sensitive man child u gotta be to think they greatly reduced his combos by making his beta hard knock down

[foggy sentinel]

The changes you were suggesting were more than just a change

[wooden dagger]

Apparently a console player that has played the character is lying now?
Alright man, just pack it up and have fun with your auto combos 😂

[foggy sentinel]

You literally want him to be the worst character in the game and you call us children 😭

This man cannot handle learning how to fight someone

[wooden dagger]

Sensitive children 👆🏽
Thank you for making my point clearer with this comment

[wooden dagger]

Apparently not 😂😂😂

[foggy sentinel]

In what way did I make your point clearer?

You don’t seem to understand what you are suggesting

[prisma fjord]

Can y'all chill it's an anime battle royale game

[wooden dagger]

The only change I suggested was making it so you actually have to aim when u use his alpha
It is hit scan and requires very very little skill to hit
Suggesting the animation slows down a bit not only for counter play but also to increase the skill level isn’t “gutting” a character and it’s not making him unplayable

[foggy sentinel]

It is in fact not hitscan there is not ability in this game that is hitscan in fact it’s about the same speed as a traditional Beamer alpha and the other grapples yet you somehow only struggle with this character?

[prisma fjord]

Tbh I don't really see an issue with Shinso after his nerf

[wooden dagger]

You look at character
Fire alpha
And it immediately connects
On console aim assist does all the work for you my guy

[prisma fjord]

He's still fairly strong without being overwhelming at all

Of course I play on console so it may vary

[foggy sentinel]

Also you suggested removing all combo potential aswell which is what the character is built around and removing them would kill the character

[foggy sentinel]

I play both console and pc and I still don’t find him to be an issue

[prisma fjord]

They want him to get Twice'd

[foggy sentinel]

Hes also not too prominent in comp

[prisma fjord]

Or Hawks'd

[foggy sentinel]

Hes strong yes however hes not as strong as this guy is making him out to be

[prisma fjord]

Whichever gutted mf peeps prefer

[wooden dagger]

Nah bro, just make it so the alpha requires actual skill and your good
Keep it simple bro, no need to get yourself worked up now

[foggy sentinel]

Why are you assuming I’m worked up over this

And even then Wym “actual skill” you still need to aim to hit it is that not classified as a skill?

You seem to have a very skewed view of what is and isnt skill

[wooden dagger]

When aim assist does it for you no, I would not consider it skillful

[foggy sentinel]

And on top of that it’s an ability that immobilizes you upon use which adds to the skill needed to use it

[violet kernel]

aim assist is genuninely not that broken on console tho 😭 it helps but it's not game breaking

[foggy sentinel]

That’s not the ability thats aim assist

[dense cobalt]

Welp I don't associate with bot players so you do you

[prisma fjord]

Is the aim assist in the room with us?

[violet kernel]

who do you play?

[foggy sentinel]

My guy you are simply so close to shinso that he hits you immediately again you need to learn the matchup

[prisma fjord]

Whenever I fight Shinso I just try to weave between his Alpha's and shoot

[foggy sentinel]

I just read the shinsos and punish them

He’s pretty easy to bait out

[dense cobalt]

Unfortunately bot players don't know this

[wooden dagger]

Bro saw a suggestion come towards his character and took it a little personally i see 😂

[foggy sentinel]

Bro lost a fight and decided that the character should never be seen again I see

[wooden dagger]

Usually the new characters
So atm mainly young AFO and AM

[foggy sentinel]

That’s why you struggle with him

You literally just play a negative matchup 😭

[wooden dagger]

Bro must be reading someone else’s messages the way I “gutted” the character 😂

[foggy sentinel]

Maybe don’t sit in yfo’s gamma and you’ll be fine

[wooden dagger]

So because I said I play young AFO I sit in the sky and let bro alpha me?
Nice assumption

[foggy sentinel]

As for am maybe avoid leaving yourself open with beta

[foggy sentinel]

What else do you do

[wooden dagger]

Noted 😂

[foggy sentinel]

Sit on the ground and let shinso kill you?

Because it seems so

[prisma fjord]

He really seems more manageable now that he can't double Beta tbh

[foggy sentinel]

Brother can’t handle getting gamesense 😭

[prisma fjord]

I don't really see the problem with him rn

[wooden dagger]

So me suggesting a nerf means I can’t play against him, don’t know what to do and die every time?
So if a character kills me they should be nerfed, got it

[foggy sentinel]

Yeah no beta alpha was annoying af

[foggy sentinel]

You didn’t answer my question my guy

I assume you’re a melee yfo?

M1 alpha m1 m2

Thatd be a simple bait and punish just try and force out a beta dodge it/avoid it and melee after

[wooden dagger]

I kill him big dog
If it’s disrupting him with the beta and connecting that into a alpha social action then sure
If it’s just avoiding him then it is what it is

[foggy sentinel]

You say that as if you have no issue with him which is clearly not the case

[wooden dagger]

I do find myself rolling for a few minutes when I fight him since ya know
He connects a single shot and cracks my shield
And since the movement change was definitely a change of all time he has no problem keeping up

[foggy sentinel]

Get indoors lock down an area ig you can also get into gamma for a single shot to get him off you

You have options

[wooden dagger]

He’s not unbeatable
But when your fighting him I’m not gonna act like it’s fun
I view him and rapid dekus with trance blow as equally annoying

[foggy sentinel]

Yeah no I view shinso as mid I enjoy fighting him

It’s a skill check to me

[wooden dagger]

W suggestion, thank you
I’ll note this

[foggy sentinel]

Trance rapidkus are cancer

[wooden dagger]

I don’t mind rapid dekus
But them with trance is terrible 💀

I can respect a Shinso that gets their gamma off cause it’s not exactly easy
But Deku?????
Wrap it up

[foggy sentinel]

Theres also a movement tech to help you maneuver

[foggy sentinel]

Yep thats rapidku

Sucks that people run it

[wooden dagger]

True
I was hopeful for a nerf with the last patch cause they knocked perception down

[wooden dagger]

What’s that?

[foggy sentinel]

We have no loops and gamma ticks down during actions now so that’s cool

No grounded alpha nerf though unfortunately

[wooden dagger]

Ya
The range for that thing is WILD 😂

[foggy sentinel]

As you launch yourself with flight do alpha and the sa spike and you’ll get taken out of flight but keep your momentum

The earlier you do it the faster

[wooden dagger]

Gotcha
I’ve known about that but I usually just stick with the gamma roll

I’ll try it if it helps

[foggy sentinel]

It helps a lot for fights with characters like shinso

Other than that it’s just simple reads and abusing your iframes

[wooden dagger]

Ya
I just usually don’t find myself in those kinds of situations
Usually my Shinso encounters are I’m fighting someone
Shinso pulls up
And then I can get away but if it’s late game getting somewhere to heal can be difficult
1v1 it isn’t terrible, but other players make it complicated

[violet kernel]

i havent been playing him as much

been playing more hawks

[wooden dagger]

I do want to apologize for my hostility. Didn’t mean to come in here and offend anyone or negatively impact their day
Thank you for the suggestions and tips tho

[foggy sentinel]

Just remember hes a linear character and to avoid being caught in the wrong spots with him

[wooden dagger]

True true

[shut tree]

Crazy how such a small nerf and im seeing way less shinsos

I still think he's the strongest 1v1 character in the game

Albeit he can't just cheese wins with spacehop beta into alpha

[violet kernel]

space hop is better rn than it's ever been

because you can just space hop and hardkock beta which ensures they dont run away

making it more annoying

[dense cobalt]

Btw aizawa is still the strongest 1v1 character, kinda dumb most ppl think it's shinso

[blissful quartz]

Shinobi costume not having the chords mask was a massive ball drop

[dense cobalt]

Real

[analog iris]

False

[blissful quartz]

Skill level order for shinso?

[dense cobalt]

I do beta max, alpha max then gamma . But beta 4 alpha 4 then beta max and the rest works too

[shut tree]

You never need 2 gammas so i just do beta 4 alpha 4 beta max alpha max and then give rainbows to my teammates

[dense cobalt]

Gamma lowkey useful, sometimes for air stall, sometimes to disrupt characters animations for a punish

[foggy sentinel]

It’s amazing for combos

[shut tree]

I know i can use gamma more, but unless they're guardbroken i don't go for alpha-mlee-gamma-beta it's just not worth it during fights

And they removed half of the combos by making beta a combo ender so

[foggy sentinel]

Just a simple alpha gamma beta works

And no?? The vast majority of his combos are fine

[shut tree]

You need to be a certain distance away for it to work on gp, and it's also easy to interrupt

[foggy sentinel]

Melee skills cannot get close and a handful of ranges skills will knock you out of it

It’s still very useful and easy to do

[dense cobalt]

True

[blissful quartz]

Any YouTuber I can check out for these combos?

[dense cobalt]

Not really, best u can find is redditors

and tiktokers

[elder stone]

i thought they nerfed shinso

hes still nuts

[shut tree]

yeah he got a much needed nerf, hes still very good tho

[elder stone]

Acceleration is so much fun

[pastel raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1361375148380524580/1436929937280991263/lv_0_20251109090617.gif

[violet kernel]

?

[gloomy sand]

can i get some shinso couching?

[dense cobalt]

Coaching?

[quiet wraith]

i accidentally parried the bakugo attacking me from behind

[near skiff]

parry?

https://tenor.com/view/deepwoken-owl-dw-roblox-the-deep-gif-15471870432747983109

[quiet wraith]

deepwoken players in the my hero ultra rumble server in da big 2025 is crazy

[near skiff]

yessir i’m still holding up
strong

have u tried voi

[quiet wraith]

no i havent played the game regularly since like february because the game lags too much for me to be able to play normally

i would still be a regular player but the fps drops and freezes are just too much my low end pc cant take this game

[near skiff]

yeah i feel you, it got to the point where i stopped playing till i bought a new pc

😭

yk i got into a game with someone from the agency The Depths

so tuf

[frosty barn]

what's good tuning for Shinso?

[dense cobalt]

Space hop , critperm, will power ,accel

[frosty barn]

word, thanks

[ornate kestrel]

NERF THIS CHARACTER TO THE GROUND!has way to good movement, his damage might as well be 200 per ability, his gamma effect last too long, and he's cooldowns are none existing!

[bitter remnant]

Bro we have bigger problems to worry about like Iron Might

[ornate kestrel]

At least it on might takes the littlest drop of skill ,compared to this blob of flesh and bones, that has 3 moves that stun and 1 move hard knocked down (that does way too much damage and is way to big of a hit box)

[bitter remnant]

I get it Shinso is annoying and I 100% agree but I'm just saying he's not as annoying as iron might. But that's just my opinion I respect yours

Also I don't see people playing him a lot so

[ornate kestrel]

Thank god

[bitter remnant]

If they're going to nerf someone then please for my sake NURF ASSAULT ENDEAVOR

[ornate kestrel]

I haven't seen one in a while but when I do....well I cant see since I'm dead

[bitter remnant]

Or better yet also Nerf cementos too while you're at it

[ornate kestrel]

I think his gamma and his beta need nerfs but the alpha is fine as it didn't do much to people in the air. Maybe the duration of his gamma and beta should get nerfed and the down power of all his moves should be higher so the beta (alpha or gamma ) combo is less effective

[bitter remnant]

His betas hitbox is so stupid and his beta should not instantly gurd break

[ornate kestrel]

I think the down power should be adjusted but besides that he really only useful if he has high levels or if has in a room , but it's is annoying when u get tod'ed from him just spamming alpha

[ornate kestrel]

Its horrendous

[bitter remnant]

I agree

[smoky tendon]

curious seeing shinso still catch strays in this day in age, yes he's still slightly busted fundamentally, but the competition in this day and age is actually absurd, he's been power crept to the moon

ngl at this point I celebrate any character with any ounce of viability vs the likes of tech might, deku, nagant

[dense cobalt]

Istg 😭shi makes me laugh atp seeing ppl complain about shinso

[shadow jungle]

Got him while summoning for nagant is he any good ?

[dense cobalt]

Yup very viable in the current meta

[violet kernel]

nothing new being said here

just the same thing y'all keep saying 😭

[elder stone]

just plat 100 hours of rapid lemillion to get really good at dodging then shinso comes easy

[dense cobalt]

Real lmao

[shadow jungle]

OK thanks👍

[feral vector]

Am I a jerk?

[stark haven]

I need some help. Anyone got a running build I can use an learn with shinso shinobi outfit? That's the only one I have.

[warped jay]

First build: Acceleration/GP Sucker/Acceleration and Willpower/Crushing PU Charge/Ability Manifest
Second build: Embrittlement/Space Hop and Fixer/Critical Permeation/High-Speed Replenishment

[stark haven]

Ok what do I need to focus on for the running skills?

[warped jay]

Like, tuning for running away?

[stark haven]

Sorry, I worded it wrong. I see what to put for the special tuning skills. Underneath the special tuning skills are the normal tuning skills. I was asking what you or some recommend putting in the slots.

For example

Do I want to make sure he Beta is strong because that's his best ability on him or go for his Alpha?

[warped jay]

Oh did it autocorrect to running when trying to put "regular"?

[warped jay]

Both

You could do HP damage up and then do the one you like more between alpha and beta

[stark haven]

Ok

@warped jay thanks

[warped jay]

I would swap Iida for someone else Dash Speed tunes are bugged and don’t work

If you have enough Rapid All Might data you can slot him in there

I’d also swap Kirishima doe Assault Endeavor if possible

[stark haven]

I don't have enough for him

[warped jay]

Le sadge…

It’s okay no worries you can put another reload tune there or something instead

[stark haven]

Ok thanks I swapped idea for togas effects

[subtle knoll]

anyone knows what are the best tuning combos to get for shinso? like what costume should i get for him

[violet kernel]

anyone tried spiraling leap on him yet?

[dense cobalt]

It's ahh, no use on him

[warped jay]

Does getting downed free the person of a brainwash from Special Action?

Because this happened and I am very confused

[dense cobalt]

Naaa
U in storm, they become free from SA when In storm or taken storm dmg lol

[warped jay]

I did not know storm damage freed them from the brainwash

That’s good to know thank you

[dense cobalt]

Anytime

[stark haven]

Question since the nerf can I run shinso in rank??

[foggy sentinel]

yeah

[weary coral]

we still cooking after nerfs

ignore the end xd

i should use gamma at the end

i would have problably win

next season ill do probably a new tuning build with spacehop on the right

and crit perm

[violet kernel]

you were in my game yesterday btw

pretty sure you killed my cementoss

[violet kernel]

is that on cyberhero?

[weary coral]

yea

the other one has that build too

but i prefer spacehop on the right

[weary coral]

oh ggs

[violet kernel]

yea i run that build

i often switch between crti perm,fixer and spiraling leap

[weary coral]

i really need crit perm to survive better

dont really like willpower

[violet kernel]

yea i dont like it as much anymore

i only run it on mirio

[weary coral]

you get hit a lot when youre doing your alpha

people can easily one shot you especially nagants

[violet kernel]

i have had this happen alot this season

[weary coral]

i play crit perm on almost every char

[violet kernel]

for the past week or so i haven't played shinso as much

the last game i played him in i was in my alpha animation and i got headshot 🥀

it was a 2v1 tho so i was doomed from the start

[weary coral]

yea that sucks

in general nagant and tech might is hard to play against
they fly high up

[violet kernel]

been playing more strike hawks since nagant players love to try and hit their air melee so i show them who has the better melee

and i dont think i'll ever be able to play shinso as good as pc players since im on console although my aim is pretty decent

[weary coral]

i understand

just play what ever you enjoy and perform better

[stark haven]

Does anyone have a video I can watch that teaches me how to play shinso, pls? Thanks. I look online I see a bunch of them but I don't know which ones can help me?

[dense cobalt]

You'll find loads of tuts on tiktok

[stark haven]

Ok

Another question

What skill do I need to level up to level 9 first??

[dense cobalt]

Beta

[stark haven]

Understood thanks

[pseudo forum]

Just got shinso

🥳

[digital sky]

if y’all were wondering how to guarantee hit on the special i know how if y’all want to know

[foggy sentinel]

Alpha gamma or air melee

[feral vector]

Alpha + special action?

[violet kernel]

this is common knowledge im pretty sure

[violet kernel]

w melee clip

[elder stone]

This aged so fast 🙁

[foggy sentinel]

literally one patch later

rip shinso

[violet kernel]

what happened?

[smoky tendon]

air melee downpower nerf, no more combos, alpha beta you must!

[jagged ingot]

They need to feature a new Shinso pur im desperate for acceleration + space hop

[violet kernel]

AS YOU ASKED

THE NEW tracksuit is blue plus hero yellow

it's for the area control battle event

[jagged ingot]

Oh when is that coming out

[violet kernel]

march i believe

or late feb

it comes out with area control again

[jagged ingot]

Oh dang that’s not for a while 😭

[hollow tulip]

oh i heard the regular tuning slots arent tht great for it

hope it has reds and purples

[peak nacelle]

is the air melee change really that significant ?

[smoky tendon]

power level wise

no?

fun wise

yes!

he's just a brain dead alpha beta spammer now

[peak nacelle]

yea they just made him really simple now

sad

[smoky tendon]

yup :c

[jagged ingot]

Depending how you play him yes but for the most part Hes still usable. I personally run acceleration to make the air melee into gamma true plus the speed boost so it def hurts

[smoky tendon]

I was the weirdo trying to become consistent doing the same thing without accel

but now it doesn't even matter anymore

but yeah ig for anyone running melee tunes it actually is a decently big nerf

(I haven't played him once after the nerf so I didn't even think about that)

[jagged ingot]

I haven’t played him for seasons till after the nerf. I was getting stat diffed by a tech shigaraki I hit with way too many betas for him to survive. Was not fun.

[smoky tendon]

yeah I don't think he's in a good spot in the meta whatsoever rn

but I don't think this nerf is what broke him but much more the top tiers that sadly counter him pretty heavily

[dense cobalt]

What is gng doing in here 😭

[peak nacelle]

hey i play shinso a bit here and there

[wispy flint]

Anyone knows why they are hating on my boy

[dense cobalt]

Hating on shinso in 2026 is wild ngl

[hollow tulip]

It’s same reason they always hated on him

Everyone has this weird ego they can win any 1v1

Shinso is DESIGNED for 1v1’s lol

So when they lose they complain

Still think they over nerfed him

But I made a space hop/fixer build thts allowed me to have fun with him again

[foggy sentinel]

I’m just mad air melee got nerfed now I have no reason to play him

[hollow tulip]

yea but tbh the air melee for me was less fun when embrittlement got nerfed lol

But idk how long u been around in here I was using embrittlement to counter sisterly spammers lol

[foggy sentinel]

Ive been around since he released

But now that he lost his combos I’m gone

Could’ve actually given him a damage nerf but here we are

[dense cobalt]

EXACTLY lmao

Leaving ur team to 1v1 a shinso or an aizawa is iq of a mouse lvl shi

[modest flame]

Which outfit?

[hollow tulip]

Shinobi heat

[hollow tulip]

It’s really just boosting reloads

But think it helps my style a lot

[placid basin]

anyone know combos with shinso

[smoky tendon]

alpha beta

[placid basin]

ok

[dense cobalt]

Rip

[smoky tendon]

yup 😭

[smoky tendon]

in all seriousness there's alpha alpha and air melee m1 beta/m2 too and you can insert gamma before beta in either of the combos if you wanna trance them

it's just that he used to have a lot more and now it's 99% alpha beta

wait, does alpha cancel special action air melee beta still work btw?

I think it should

so that might lowkey be decent now lol

even when you don't care for the items that much xdd

like a bit more relevant than it already was ig

[placid basin]

ty man

[sly fiber]

…

Oop-

-# I know a 480 combo

-# ppl hate me for it tho