Hawks

[winged dawn]

Wind general heat
Nice. That build used to function like how a fixer build usually does by sacrificing a special tune for significantly higher damage over the average build but thanks to annihilation thats no longer true as it finally has a respectable strike villain special tune.
This fit could very easily shoot up to the best build if a better strike villain special tune comes along but rn its competing with quirk assist combat very hard so it becomes whats better between willpower/kota finder/crushing PU or annihilation

[cold tide]

Can’t run from the bird you purple rat

[languid briar]

Cool hawks photo

[tame kernel]

he’s getting goomba stomped 😭

[stoic heart]

There is a few good builds in that pur. My personal favorite for strike hawks

[wise robin]

🫴☕️

[wary lagoon]

🥂

[wise robin]

Peak duo 🥹✌️

[distant dune]

I could cry

[wary lagoon]

we winning

Finally listened

[winged dawn]

Love how they looked at the crappy scaling and the 1 sec per alpha on a 50 charge alpha reload and said "thats fine"

Good buff tho

[wary lagoon]

Alpha damage is almost back to prime

Tuning will put it there

Reload buff makes me giggle because with a penalty idk if we will even feel it. But hey take what we can get.

[winged dawn]

5 gamma dmg tho

Soooooo important

[wary lagoon]

Maybe one day it will go back to 150 😭

[distant dune]

WE ARE BACK

[cloud mason]

It's like they're afraid to buff him

[distant dune]

Because the community cant get a grip on the fact rapid hawks is bad

[wary lagoon]

I wont be on for a few hours but is the reload noticeable? I know the alpha will be.

[distant dune]

Reload isnt the most notable but the damage buffs are phenomenal

Im getting 270dmg for gamma alpha

[wary lagoon]

I figured with the delay it wouldn't be

[wary lagoon]

Welcome back prime hawks alpha lmao 🤣 legit put on some alpha tuning and he is all set

[distant dune]

Back to beaming we go!

[wary lagoon]

Now we just ask them to give him 300HP because if the other rapids get it then well I mean... he should to right?

https://tenor.com/view/hawks-bnha-mha-dancing-gif-3133705054575261413

[distant dune]

3 rapids remain w 250

Compare hawks to froppy and mirio

W have a huge hitbox and everything bro

😭

[wary lagoon]

Big azz wings that give us away

My next campaign will be
Rapid 300
Strike 350

-# ik damnwell that ain't happening but let me dream

[distant dune]

Nah strike doesnt need anymore hp

Hes REALLY good

We don't mention him so he wont be nerfed

[wary lagoon]

I know... im just greedy

I got a random fun build that gives him 320HP 😭

So unnecessary but its funny

[distant dune]

😭😭😭😭

[storm relic]

Eating?

[cold tide]

Alpha buff fun :>

The main I wish for his special to be more used/lower cd atleast

[distant dune]

We are slowly crawling our way back

[surreal canyon]

did they also improve his tracking? i wont be hopping on until tomorrow so i cant test that

[wary lagoon]

Its his aim alpha so the tracking doesn't matter much there

[cold tide]

I don’t think it’d take too too much to make him really solid anyways

[surreal canyon]

ah gotcha

[wary lagoon]

Tuning gives me 24per bullet shots and thats prime hawks. Its so nice to break guards again 😭

[stiff vine]

Could you send your tuning build for him? im thinking of moving away from my embrit accel build

[distant dune]

I beg for melee combos back

[wary lagoon]

The one I currently have on has Accel but you can swap that put for whatever. Also Nagant tuning might actually go pretty hard on this. I just keep revenge strike on because damage buff. My duo is a support Nejire and with her alpha it just keeps my buff constantly on with the gp breaks.

[distant dune]

All I want

Tired of needing to use this dumb tech

[wary lagoon]

If we get those back then they never have to touch him again

[distant dune]

Special action

[stiff vine]

geez that outfits goated for him

[distant dune]

That and the quirk assist

[wary lagoon]

Well that as well lol

[distant dune]

Loll

Hru pookie BTW <3

[wary lagoon]

I am good. Just been busy af

[distant dune]

Oooof you better be resting and eating well >:[

[stiff vine]

my build is more of a air melee jab into beta back into beta combo build but maybe i should move back over to alphas

[wary lagoon]

I need rainbows to finish these builds. I got all cyber and general tuned. Half para and half assist. Formal has like idk 2 or 3?

[wary lagoon]

Im trying

[distant dune]

Your gonna have every hawks skin tunned at this rate

[cold tide]

Just before they do that remove the near infinite special tech from strawks notably (hawks can do the melee one I guess it’s neat) then they good to go

[distant dune]

That's all I ever ask for

[distant dune]

It's not infinite special action its a burst of movement from gamma

[wary lagoon]

Gamma alpha is my go to on him. Its hitting uh 260? Or 255? Somewhere around there

[distant dune]

I hit 270

Mwwahahahah

[stiff vine]

yeah my combo does like 300+ iirc with embrit

[wary lagoon]

I probably do. Im just tired lol I did like some quick test then got off

I just know it breaks gp

[stiff vine]

havent played him in a bit been messing with assault endevour so i could be mistakened

[distant dune]

Go sleepies

[wary lagoon]

I was having fun with my 360 beta dabi 😭

[distant dune]

PARDON

[wary lagoon]

Oh yeah hold on

[distant dune]

I've been really enjoying mt lady

[distant dune]

Yummy

Cant u use the plus ultra tunning

And go kaboom

[wary lagoon]

This is turbo and whatever red endy is

[distant dune]

Ooo

I seee

[wary lagoon]

Without it I have revenge strike that hits 330s

[cold tide]

I mean the tech where you can keep up the reload without the delay, basically every strike hawks move lets him burst so much distance at the cost of just 20 and instant reload which is pretty fast

[storm relic]

right

[wary lagoon]

So I have two dabi nuke builds

[storm relic]

running both endy is fun

I can one shot people with shinso and its hilarious

[distant dune]

I just thought

Why don't we try that build on hawksy...

[wary lagoon]

Strike has the same delay as rapid. His reloads are just less. Rapid is around 8s now. Strike is what 5s? And if you have a reload build or qfr thats what makes it feel infinite

[wary lagoon]

Its fun af in area control

His default cyber can do both endy tunings

[wary lagoon]

And the 6strike buffs stack btw

[cold tide]

I mean the tech where there isn’t the special reload delay at all, rapid hawks can trigger it with melee but strawks using all his moves gets so much more mileage from it that’s too me one of his strongest aspects

[distant dune]

Oh gwod...

[tardy spire]

Rapid hawks mains, how the buff feeling?

[distant dune]

Great!

[tropic estuary]

We're getting to prime slowly

[digital torrent]

Still need the SA old duration back and y'all be chilling

[late storm]

Old SA duration back with strike hawks

😭

He would never leave the sky

I’m so adjusted to it with him as it is now that a massive buff like that would be so freeing

[distant dune]

Wait what 😭

OH

sorry brain didn’t brain

[surreal canyon]

tried the rapid bird
this is the best i've done with him in a while but man is he still painful for me to use 😭

[wary lagoon]

The more you play him the better you get. Its an adjustment really. He's kinda fragile with 250HP and no armor like most of the new characters

[surreal canyon]

yeah, i'll try him out more and get used to him!

wish the beta had armor ngl

[wary lagoon]

Armor on beta would be nice or even when he uses his special on a teammate because ya both sitting ducks in that pick up animation

[surreal canyon]

exactly!

[wary lagoon]

We just gotta keep whispering to the devs

[surreal canyon]

if assault deku can get buffs, so can rapid hawks

[wary lagoon]

They did kinda listen to my feedback. The alpha buff is the exact damage numbers I suggested. And I asked for reload buffs and damage buff on gamma. Granted I said 130 damage lmao but hey some is better than none 😂

Give it some time and ill craft what more they can buff on him without breaking him. One step at a time ya know

[surreal canyon]

step by step, hope will prevail

[tropic estuary]

Pleaseeee

Been preaching armor on beta fr

[wise robin]

🥂

[arctic matrix]

How do yall like playing Slicing Wind Hawks? I just got him from the anniversary event

[late storm]

Stupid combo damage and large amounts of aura

But high skill ceiling that is very rewarding when you learn all his techs

I think he has a middle of the road skill floor, you can’t just pick him up and dominate unless your opponents are just dumb

[wary lagoon]

Practice your combos and distance judging with beta. To start

@tame kernel the difference in likes between our platforms is crazy. like you're in the 20s with 10k less than me and im top 40ish 😭 this billboard stuff is hard work man

[distant dune]

:3

[wary lagoon]

I would send you likes but I dont have you added yet 😔

🫂

[distant dune]

I NEED TO FRIEND U OMG

HOW DARE I NOT HAVE MY POOKIE ADDED

[distant dune]

🫂

[wary lagoon]

Lol I think both bree and Devon i just randomly ended up in their games. Most of the time im spotted in the wild 😂

[distant dune]

We want Less cool-downs!

[languid briar]

So… I tried to play some rapid hawks today and I just got put into the worse combo😔

[distant dune]

Avrg bawks experience

[languid briar]

yup

[tame kernel]

genuinely I’m out here feeling like I’m playing ranked likes LOL

i usually send likes to a bunch of the billboard chart pages and
then likes back but i also forget so much too 😭

[tame kernel]

ME TOO ME TOOOO

[wary lagoon]

Its crazy how competitive it can be lmao im like 2k a head of 45th and like 4k behind 43 😭 😂

[glad urchin]

i just got strike hawks any tunning recommendation ?

[wary lagoon]

What outfits you got. Wind General heat is one of his most popular ones

[tropic estuary]

You up for games today, or u got work

[wary lagoon]

Unfortunately at work as we speak 😔

[tropic estuary]

As expected 🥀 dang even Sundays too

[wary lagoon]

Days off are Mondays and Tuesdays. But this week I also have Wednesday and Thursday. My cat is getting fixed so took time off to be with her.

[glad urchin]

so i got quirk assist, the suit i forgot what it’s called and cyber

myb i was rocked cuz of work

[cloud mason]

Quirk assist (combat) is his best fit i believe with Accel/WR & Willpower

[glad urchin]

gotcha thank you

https://tenor.com/view/hawks-keigo-keigo-takami-takami-mha-gif-452343549331539129

[distant dune]

Welcome to the flock

[tropic estuary]

U mean nest

https://tenor.com/view/hawks-keigo-keigo-takami-takami-mha-gif-17046010086665638967

[atomic dust]

https://tenor.com/view/hawks-mha-keigo-takami-gif-5194755034824520939

[wary lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/hawks-bnha-mha-dancing-gif-3133705054575261413

[hallow lance]

Next qs will be wingless hawks and we get a jetpack and instead of shooting feathers we just use a regular gun

[hoary rampart]

I would love to see Hawks use a gun ngl lmaoaoao

[storm relic]

Thought I'd ask here

Was Gamma 2 voiced by Hawks?

[stiff vine]

In the nicest way possible you could of googled this but yes the english VA is the same

[storm relic]

i decided to be social for once

ai just rots the brain

[hard osprey]

how do you do the fast hawks beta?

[winged dawn]

What do you mean?

Rapid or strike?

[hard osprey]

strike

[winged dawn]

Just tap it?

[hard osprey]

ppl were saying it has no end lag

[winged dawn]

Strikes beta has no reason to actually be charged

[hard osprey]

near*

[winged dawn]

Yea, theres no specific condition for that

It just happens

He used to have endlag comparable to rapid toga gamma on the move

Now he doesn’t

[hard osprey]

got it

[wary lagoon]

It should be noted this is not intentional and will most likely be changed next patch

[slow light]

https://discord.com/channels/1143456120636198954/1507508577001275504

[patent beacon]

dont think it ever got fixed

hoping it stays that way it makes him a lot more comp viable

[hoary rampart]

Lowkey panicked at the end when my Momo died but I did it

[wary lagoon]

Its getting fixed at the start of the new season along with the afo bug

[patent beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/izuku-midoriya-my-hero-academia-boku-no-hero-academia-mha-bnha-gif-16724628

[covert flint]

What’s everyone’s favourite strike hawks combo? Mines is beta into melee then catch the wake up with another combo

[topaz canyon]

probably gamma into beta it feels so good landing that

[wise robin]

🥂

[tropic estuary]

Hope mirko got voicelines for hawks

[wary lagoon]

She has to

I was really hoping he would get another casual with his black jacket to match her training outfit

[tropic estuary]

Her training outfit Is clean asl fr

[distant dune]

Could be smth as a event skin

[wary lagoon]

Please he looks so good in that jacket

[hard osprey]

does strike hawks beta 7 beat blueku grounded alpha or yafo gamma?

[covert flint]

I don’t think so

[late storm]

Good question

[wary lagoon]

Extremely situational and it all depends on at what point you use it. most of the time no

[late storm]

After some quick testing

Blueku alpha period - no

YAFO - If he hits you during the charging phase you're fine but if he hits you mid sword swing you get knocked

kinda what I expected given how blueku alpha knocks you with iframes in 1 hit and yafo has to gamma you 2 times to give you iframes

[wary lagoon]

Yafo I only know ive beaten because of area control but its a slim chance like ya said. Its not something to really rely on.

[distant dune]

More rapid buffs incoming cope cope?

We need our cool-downs

[late storm]

I mean I wouldn't use a strike hawks beta on a yafo gamma really idk

I'd just hide

but strike hawks kinda is mid in area control anyway

considering how he needs lvl 7 to get the good stuff

[wary lagoon]

It doesn't hit past walls so like any kinda cover to duck behind and your good

[late storm]

yeah

[wary lagoon]

Dude i hope so. Rapid feels so much better now but the cooldowns still hurting big time

[distant dune]

He doesn’t need dmg

Just those god forsaken cool-downs man

[wary lagoon]

it would be great to see them give Rapid the same CD as Strike.

[distant dune]

a woman can only hope

[wary lagoon]

we'll be fine

[distant dune]

I hope so pooks

[hard osprey]

Anyone else excited for the new characters?

[bleak flume]

I get to skate around the map, so, absolutely

[patent beacon]

Use qfr

Actually generational tuning when I use it in him

You got a lot more freedom ❤️‍🩹

just look at that sa reload 🥹

[patent beacon]

beta beta gamma

so clean and it does some nasty damage

I'm praying the hawks bug isn't fixed because it makes it so much easier to land 😭

[wary lagoon]

It will be tonight unfortunately 😔

[distant dune]

Waste

Doesn't start till u touch the floor

Thats just my opinion tho

[wary lagoon]

The nerf hurt qfr on hawks

I think its good for new players because they dont know how to fly yet but thats about it. I noticed that whenever someone new gets hawks they use alpha a lot on rapid and keep low. Strike they use beta and miss a lot 😭 but qfr helps them because they don't know how to do air combos or fight in the sky yet.

[distant dune]

Yeah i prefer being in the sky as much as often and beam hence why qfr doest work

Im effectively getting half the time

Id much prefer survivability tunning

[patent beacon]

so just prioritize touching the ground as soon as you prock it

it works because u use most cooldowns to get a guardbreak

then have them up again for extra pressure

might not fit in ur playstyle but its not a bad choice

[patent beacon]

on the other hand its bad for new players beacuse they dont know how to properly use moves

they dont really get value from the tuning lol

tbf tho

on strike the beta always misses

its like a 3/10 chance its gonna actually hit

the stun hits but the slices dont

[wary lagoon]

Make your end point of beta the target to beta gamma

You miss a lot less

[patent beacon]

yeaaah also if theyre on the ground look down it makes it easier to hit

idk why but for a ton of moves it works like that

not just hawks

same with monoma beta

[wary lagoon]

A lot of factors play into it but once anyone learns and adjust to it then its not as bad

[patent beacon]

I mean its still bad

[wary lagoon]

Latency, lag, hitbox, terrain all play a factor

[patent beacon]

latency is my issue and it makes a big difference

[wary lagoon]

Servers. If i go to JP or EU I cant do anything. My ping jumps to 300. US/NA im at 15 so my stuff is fine.

[patent beacon]

do u do the one hawks tech with sa

where if u use the moves fast enough the sa doesnt go on penalty reload

for rapid its only good with melee but strike u can use it w alpha and gamma too

it makes movement with alpha reaaaally really good

for no cost of sa

[wary lagoon]

Eh not really. Sometimes but I dont crutch it.

[patent beacon]

u should

[wary lagoon]

Knowing the devs the will patch it

I never used the beta bug he had because I didn't want to build a bad habit. Because he could just get out of any grab attack free.

[patent beacon]

nah they wont

this isnt something they will patch

[wary lagoon]

One of those things that "if I need it I know how to use it" but im not relying on it

[patent beacon]

trust me this is never getting patched

theyd have to rework his whole sa for it to be

[wary lagoon]

Not really just give him harsher reloads like they have in the past or less ammo

[patent beacon]

that wont change the tech

[wary lagoon]

Overly penalize people who dont do it unfortunately

It won't but it wont be good for him

[patent beacon]

I mean if u dont wanna do the tech thats all you but its definitely not getting removed

[wary lagoon]

I do it if I need it. I just dont abuse it

[patent beacon]

i wouldnt call it abuse

its a tech

and its very hard to do consistently

[wary lagoon]

Its rare I even need to. Usually my team ends fights fast. We dont let people run away so no need to chase

[patent beacon]

fair enough

in the lobbies I get if I dont use it then you just die

or tbf thats on rapid

strike doesnt really need it

they DO chase even with hawks going the whole map in half a second

[wary lagoon]

I don't play solo. Usually in a full team and we fight pretty close. I can see it being used in solos

[patent beacon]

eh even in teams

I used strike hawks in scrims

you really get caught off gaurd if you dont have sa at a high %

so I use the tech to keep it up

[wary lagoon]

If anything we chase but people only get away if i let them go. Sometimes its fun to let them rez to down them again for more points

[patent beacon]

[wary lagoon]

Ah yeah I don't do customs much. People always invite me when im at work or busy. It gets sweaty ik that much

[distant dune]

Im perfect on na and eu

[wary lagoon]

Lucky lol

[surreal canyon]

is there any way to check ping numbers in this game?
all i know is that US is a deadzone for me 😭

[wary lagoon]

In the game itself no
I use this to check https://gameserverping.com/ping-test

[surreal canyon]

stellar results 😭

considering i play on US

[wary lagoon]

EU might be better for you 😭

[surreal canyon]

it's a hacker showcase and a slur-fest everytime i go there

it just dampens my mood a bit

[wary lagoon]

US im pretty green

[wary lagoon]

Thats fair actually. Even if you got some lag its more fun to just enjoy the game. Not fight some PU demon every round.

[surreal canyon]

yeah, you get it

[surreal canyon]

those are all pretty good for this game imo

[wary lagoon]

Ye i don't have much of an issue on my home server. But can feel it when I jump to others

[distant dune]

You're elemental power is

Greeen

[jade mango]

[wary lagoon]

[hoary rampart]

[covert flint]

What’s the bug?

[wary lagoon]

No endlag on beta

Mentioned here
#update-announcements message

[covert flint]

I had no clue an he’s my main… I’m a larper

[hoary rampart]

Ngl Imma be sad when they fix it it feels so much better playing him 😭

But also additionally, does Hawks have a naturally high jump height? I thought I had a sub tuning that was increasing it but when I checked I have no such thing

[wary lagoon]

He has one of the highest jumps in the game yes.

[hoary rampart]

NICE I like it

[topaz canyon]

Why would one wake up against one of the best melees in the game 😭

It’s like going into a room with momo or tech afo like what are you expecting

[patent beacon]

Same 😭

At first I never noticed it

But I eventually got used to it

[late storm]

yeah

they added back the strike beta endlag

and it feels horrible

[torpid agate]

😭

[wary lagoon]

They said they would fix it last season.... this is not a shock at all

[torpid agate]

I know 👍

[wary lagoon]

I wonder how many people are going to go back to saying hes mid now lmao

[digital torrent]

Didn't even know that was an issue

[topaz canyon]

He’s not mid

It just feels weird to have it back to normal 😭

[wary lagoon]

Trueeee lmao 🤣

But ya know some people man

Back when he had the beta bug of getting out of grabs, when that was fixed a lot dropped him.

@topaz canyon it didnt take long 😭

[distant dune]

People are so pathetic

Oh no a bug got fixed

[winged dawn]

Cmon bro. Cant make 1 change without a bug to come with it.
If bet curves around too big of a wall with accel on (or probably spd cards) then it no regs

[distant dune]

How could this happen

[winged dawn]

#submitted-feedback message

[wary lagoon]

[hoary rampart]

I'm genuinely sick of people calling a character mid just because they had one change, but hey if it gets the meta slaves off him then it's a win Ig 😭
Less attention on him

And also the change was a literal BUG that was just fixed. It's not hard to adapt

[jade mango]

Great, it is perfect to get the meta slaves off of him

[winged dawn]

Can i ask why this isn't getting likes?
Im not trying to suggest the beta endlag reverted but rather im trying to suggest some change like "if beta lands you can cancel endlag early into gamma" type stuff to improve character feel in exchange for lowering his admittedly absurd raw stats? Is that not a W?

[topaz canyon]

Oh my..

Alr you were right 😭

[topaz canyon]

Oh no..

I think im going to explore a new level path

And im going to try to not involve beta for movement so much

[topaz canyon]

so after testing for a brief moment i feel like most followups after beta don't feel true?

or is that just me @winged dawn ?

[winged dawn]

.

[topaz canyon]

did not see this

[topaz canyon]

okay i read throguh your feedback

[frigid igloo]

Can anyone teach me to play rapid hawks?

[jade mango]

quite old but will still teach you the basics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF9u_Gxnrw8&pp=ygURcmFwaWQgaGF3a3MgZ3VpZGU%3D

if you have any specific questions you can always ask here

[frigid igloo]

Tysm

[surreal canyon]

oh damn

i didnt know NinJagoTaco had a yt channel

[jade mango]

oh she has

thats how I know and found her

learned everything I know of both Hawks with her

and now Im in her agency

https://klipy.com/gifs/cinema-mha

[surreal canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/kita-bocchi-the-rock-kita-ikuyo-clap-happy-gif-10036180577568127404

[frigid igloo]

Chat I got 4 k.o. with rapid hawks

I'm getting a lot better after watching the video

[tawdry fossil]

@wary lagoon Can you please show the best builds for Rapid and strike hawks

I'm juts coming back to the game

[jade mango]

indeed, just as me, it is a pretty good video

[jade mango]

she will probably send you them all later, but it depends on your playstyle

[coarse lintel]

I tried to use her on my first try but she was hard

[tawdry fossil]

I mean It doesn't have to be her,it can be anyone who knows the character well

I don't mind

[coarse lintel]

Same here I always do Hawks sometimes

[wary lagoon]

Do you have all his PURs? Because I can give some suggestions for each one or just what you have.

[jade mango]

those are some that I use, first is my support one

also yeah, what skins do you have?

[tawdry fossil]

Well I think I only have the parallel world one

[jade mango]

ooo

thats pretty good

[wary lagoon]

Parallel you'll want the default or the fancy

[tawdry fossil]

Thank god

[jade mango]

yep, on parallel you can use fancy, space hop and divine protection for example

its pretty solid

[wary lagoon]

Embrittlement or Quirk factor for yellow slots
I do GP ducker for blue and Divine or revenge support for green

[jade mango]

on hawks I always like picking a resource option, divine protection or kota finder

[wary lagoon]

Divine is so good imo on hawks you can even fly into storm fast get a left box and fly out if ya run stars tuning or green cards

[jade mango]

indeed

[wary lagoon]

I'll take a screenshot of the builds in a minute for ya. Just waking up lmao

[jade mango]

the builds I use to grind ranked the most on all my accounts is always on divine protection

but Kota is always pretty good aswell

you get to Kota usually first than anyone

[wary lagoon]

Divine warp heal lol

[tawdry fossil]

Is card dupe not good on hawks????

Or is gp suckered better

[jade mango]

which can let you get it without any fights

[wary lagoon]

Oh you can run it. I just like the survival of GP to stay in a fight a little longer.

[jade mango]

if you know you are killing people and have a aggressive playstyle, just go for it

[tawdry fossil]

Cool I get u

Low-key

[wary lagoon]

The blue slot is all up to you. I do GP but I see card dup a lot because fast levels are always good. Also extra levels for ability cards

[tawdry fossil]

Do u reckon bunny hop will be good on hawks or nah

[wary lagoon]

It is so much fun

[jade mango]

preach wallrunner bunny hop

[wary lagoon]

The air you get on recover

I was testing a qfr bunny build yesterday and I see the vision

[tawdry fossil]

Watch there be a toga glitch for bunny hop💀

[jade mango]

wind general combat can do divine protection + area reduction

area reduction hawks needs to be gatekept

[wary lagoon]

Yeah I got Kota on that lmao but I prob go back and put area

[jade mango]

same

[wary lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/hawks-bnha-mha-dancing-gif-3133705054575261413

[jade mango]

i mean divine protection + willpower is good

even after willpower nerf

but i would rather use crit perm

[wary lagoon]

God i hope not

[wary lagoon]

not the best gameplay
But notice the air when I recover? It floats you up instead of down or back per usual. I think it would of been a little higher but I hit the sky area wall.

Also
Yeah Mirko can just kick past Hawks Gamma so if you're using strike keep that in mind. Usually when he is in that spin animation anything that hits it gets knocked or grabbed but she just doesn't. i think its her special?

Also the wall climbing hops are very good. Basically super jump off a wall

Or if walls are close you can hop between them for a very fast climb rate

[wary lagoon]

I see the vision for hawks tech with bunny hop.

[wary lagoon]

@tawdry fossil these are my para builds

[distant dune]

@wary lagoon your getting interviewed rn bestie😂😂😂

[wary lagoon]

I don't mind lmao I like helping

[distant dune]

I like being helpful too!!

[patent beacon]

It feels so bad

At first I never realised when beta end lag got bugged but now that it's gone I'm not used to it anymore 😭

[tawdry fossil]

@wary lagoon TYSM u have been a big help

[tawdry fossil]

And @jade mango

Thank you for you big help aswell

[jade mango]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hawks-keigo-9

[surreal canyon]

this is why i stopped playing him after a bit during last season 😭

i didnt wanna get used to it

[patent beacon]

Actually 5-head strat

[wary lagoon]

Any time ☕ happy to help

[patent beacon]

I started making sure I use gamma mostly before end of season

But even still it's really hard to get used to the beta now 😭

I used to leave beta to level last because it was slow and now I remember why

But armour might be a good thing to have too tbh

I stick to gamma first tho

[surreal canyon]

[wary lagoon]

Ive always paused after beta to do a quick look so im still able to beta gamma, beta beta or beta alpha 😭 haven't noticed a change. But for people who do quick inputs im sure its rough

[patent beacon]

I'm a quick input merchant

Anything requiring quick inputs and I'm mastering it day 1

I love it too much

gamma was and now is my saving grace again

[jade mango]

Your welcome, always glad to help. If you need help, we always here

[patent beacon]

Sa alpha tech turn around air melee gamma alpha

❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹

200+ damage in literally a second

Lovely combo

[wary lagoon]

Gamma alpha or gamma gamma alpha is my bread and butter tbh.

Spin to win

But beta gamma alpha i can still land

[topaz canyon]

I feel like I can’t land it 😭

[wary lagoon]

I have noticed this weird like.... idk how to put it.... homing on his gamma? Did it always like pull towards a target or is that new. I didn't notice it in his first few seasons but I did last season and now

[topaz canyon]

I had to hop off yesterday because I was playing so bad 😭

[topaz canyon]

Gamma has slight tracking no?

I’m pretty used to just looking in the general direction and some of the ticks hitting

If not all

[wary lagoon]

Like its a little rough because im trying to fight deku and Mirko keeps poking me but I hit beta alpha. Was planning to gamma alpha before Mirko countered. Then I land a beta gamma for the down.

[wary lagoon]

See I don't remember it doing that in s13-15 😭 maybe it did and I never picked up on it? Idk it just feels stronger I guess

[topaz canyon]

Feels the same to me 🙋‍♂️

Only thing I feel off about is the beta which just needs some time to get used to

[wary lagoon]

Guess im just crazy lmao

[topaz canyon]

And idk if fixer got nerfed??

All my fixer builds are doing less damage

[wary lagoon]

Nope fixer was untouched

Is it possible people are just running defense tuning?

[topaz canyon]

My tech afo alphas should be doing 100+

I can’t even get to 95 now😭

[surreal canyon]

could just be assault teammates

[topaz canyon]

Yeah I thought so too so I asked a friend to take off tuning and go on a rapid

To test it

And still less damage

Even tried on bots and took out assault deku

[topaz canyon]

Probably

[wary lagoon]

Dumb question but are you charging it or no

Because lv 9 base is 80 damage but charging its way more into the 100s

[topaz canyon]

Uncharged was doing 100+ last season and then charged did 204 I believe

But now my uncharged does 93-95

And uncharged does 194

Which isn’t bad but I just want to know where my dmg went 😭

[wary lagoon]

It might just be defense tuning? Like alpha defense, gp/hp defense sisterly or revenge Assult with an assault teammate? Maybe im not sure. I cant see anything that would effect it unless maybe there's just a bug right now with fixer or afo.

[wary lagoon]

Lv 9 he is 80 and charged lv 9 is 170 so you're still doing way more than normal just not as much

[topaz canyon]

Yeah it’s alright not that big of a deal

I just wanted to know if it got shadow nerfed or anything

[jade mango]

it has that indeed, sometimes it is annoying and will work against you

[wary lagoon]

Is it maybe just stronger now

[jade mango]

can't tell, I have been only playing rapid lately

Imma test it

[wary lagoon]

Because last season they did all that stuff to Bakugo and others

Like even Aizawa bets is sticky now

[hoary rampart]

Oh, yeah, his gamma has always had some sort of soft homing on it if you're close to someone. It's why when I chase people I fly directly above or behind them and hold the gamma and Hawks will get closer to them automatically. It's weird sometimes though and doesn't always work when I think it should

It's not like the recent buffs to Strike Bakugo's gamma or Assault Uraraka's beta since it's not guaranteed, but if you're close enough it should work

[wary lagoon]

Its so weird that I just never noticed it until s16 😭

[hoary rampart]

Hahaha yeah, I noticed within the first few days I got him 😂

[hoary rampart]

I won the 1 v 3 despite getting beat up hehehe

Revenge defense saved me from that Mirko lmao

[topaz canyon]

Worm do you play strike or rapid more?

[distant dune]

Primarily rapid but i post more strike

And i play mt lady and will be playing Mirko in between

[topaz canyon]

Alr alr

[distant dune]

Why? May I ask?

[wary lagoon]

someone asked if Accel was good on Hawks i said how its bugged right now and this other person claim that I must just be trash at hawks. Hello? Its actually bugged and we have video proof 😭 pretty sure no life even put in a bug report

[distant dune]

It’s bugged?

[wary lagoon]

https://x.com/i/status/2059937395123146763

Razu (@Razu1327512)

今シーズンの赤ホークスがゴミな理由1選

X · May 28, 2026, 9:58 AM

Beta with accel can just be blank

But its fine without the tuning

[distant dune]

Oh right

That

Yeaa-

[wary lagoon]

According to the person in question "im just bad" 😭 like no you can see its not there

People need to just play and see for themselves i guess this place gives me a headache

[topaz canyon]

No just wanted to know

I’ve seen your hawks clips for both just wanted to know who you play more

[topaz canyon]

In that video his beta is just cancelling because of the new bug no?

In all my games my beta no regs when at an angle to a platform like a floor or door

[wary lagoon]

Yeah its bugged and the guy i was trying to explain things to just said "nah its a skill issue"

[distant dune]

Ooou oki nothing wrong w being curious

Anyways I sleepies now

[jade mango]

💀 who is claiming that about you

[jade mango]

thats crazy

[hoary rampart]

That's...actually crazy. People don't be listening and just claim skill issue for everything don't they 😭

[winged dawn]

Further info. It doesn't seem to bug, atleast not near as often, if you land the 10 dmg slice part. If you use it to put a lingering hitbox on wakeup its bad but otherwise its extremely good.
Additionally i wouldn't use it as a discouragement for accel. Before this update he had all the combos he needed and accel just increased his already extremely over the top mobility so it wasn't good.
After the change its now much more valuable due to opening up your beta starters combo routes to basically what it was before including beta, beta, gamma/alpha among others. For this reason i say that accel has risen to the number 1 tuning skill for him comfortably even accounting for the bug so perhaps instead of saying "dont because its bugged" say "yes but its bugged"
Special tune tier list for strawks.
Must use, meta, and strong are all ordered, the rest are not.

[wary lagoon]

Oh i know accel is amazing on him. Its my goto on all builds its just something to note for a new player that it could cause his beta to just break according to videos people have posted.

I didn't tell them no. I pretty much said its good just a bit buggy. But somehow it turned into me saying its bad when I never did accel is on like all of my builds lmao

[winged dawn]

Yea, i didn't see the exact convo but i just wanted to clear it up for any outsiders as well as future players.

[jade mango]

Thats a pretty accurate list, the only change I would make in the whole thing is rising Crit Perm to meta, it is way too strong, specially after willpower nerfs

Formal suit fancy can use crit perm + area reduction, its a godsend

[winged dawn]

I can see rising crit perm to meta but its not surpassing willpower

[wary lagoon]

Eh I mean everyone has their own preferences. Like right now Im using safo to just hunt after a down and clean up a team.
My favorite build is accel an embrit. Followed by crushing gp then ibara kuro.
Accel and Nagant is ngl kinda funny 😭 alpha spam is nuts

But I like that on rapid over strike. Wind General with deku and Nagant.

[winged dawn]

Call me crazy but i think any build without accel is immediately worse than any build with accel (assuming purs obv)

[jade mango]

On strike for sure

Rapid not so much, but I like it either way

[winged dawn]

Yea, rapid likes it a lot but its not like it enables him crazy. Its still prob his best tuning tho

[jade mango]

In this stupid meta with this much damage I just preffer going crit perm

Survivability doubles because of that

250 is no bueno

I do really like accel

[wary lagoon]

Ngl I cant wait to slip mic tuning on when he comes out because my friend runs tech shiggy and the other has hyper regen. Mics tuning is damage buff every time your teammates take damage 😭 i just wanna see how dumb it is.

[jade mango]

Thats lowk genius

[wary lagoon]

#giverapid300HP

[wary lagoon]

Our teamcomps are so dumb sometimes

[jade mango]

The only thing keeping me from playing area reduction on rapid

[wary lagoon]

I want a double red pur for area reduction and Tamaki for a stupid storm camp build

[jade mango]

Wind general villain can run crit perm + accel, its a good fit

Sadly there is no rapid + tech fit yet

[wary lagoon]

Like please next pur give us a double purple or double red or a crazy fixer build

We have a lot of blue/red builds and why I have no idea

[jade mango]

Truly

[jade mango]

I really wonder how do they decide that

Besides existing outfits

[wary lagoon]

No idea. I made a post saying they need to implement more variety when it comes to tuning

Shigaraki has 3 double reds

THREE

Why does hawks need two double yellow

Math not mathing

[topaz canyon]

Willpower nerfs..?

[surreal canyon]

never argue with an ultra rumble player

i swear 90% of the people that start arguments play a different game

😭

[wary lagoon]

Nah fr 😭 you got a point

[jade mango]

completly bugged last season, can only consider it a nerf

[topaz canyon]

Oh alright

Well it’s back to normal now

[jade mango]

For now...

[late storm]

So what does acceleration do for his combo game?

Make the end lag on his beta more bearable?

You said it opened up his combo game for his beta so I assume you can just do another beta or gamma faster than you can without accele

[winged dawn]

Let me put it this way
Accel basically turns current beta into what last seasons beta was normally
What this means is that it opens up beta beta as a true route again and massively increases the effective range of beta gamma and beta alpha.
Theres another big one thats important and thats accel making alpha stagger 3X true if your in the air including the knockback ver and the grounded stagger ver but the tldr abt accel is that it brings S16 beta back

Additionally he has multiple good accel setups.
Alpha stagger, air melee, tap gamma is really good
Beta full melee remains one of the only true beta starter combos rn tho its positioning dependant
Hold gamma into air melee is true in some situations (if you want i can elaborate but its like once ever 2-3 games)
And ground melee in general is good enough to get the accel proc especially on wakeup

So accel isn't hard to proc and it opens up your combo routes significantly making it his best tune rn

[late storm]

Ooo faster alphas do sound nice as well

Do elaborate on the hold gamma into air melee, is it not consistent?

[winged dawn]

Accel adds/ massively improves the consistency and range of
Beta - beta
Beta - alpha
Beta - gamma
Alpha stagger 3X (if hawks is in air)
And makes things like alpha stagger, beta, gamma/alpha much easier

[late storm]

Because if they’re not on hp it sounds the best way to get melee off

Ok you’re selling me on accele

I remember on the guide you didn’t have it as highly rated as wall runner

But now I guess it’s changed

[winged dawn]

Theres 2 main ways it can happen.
The first one is if you hit gamma from above the opponent and not directly in front of them (takes some feel to learn) you can do a bit of a spin during the gamma climb to force the gamma momentum to push you twards the opponent. This sometimes results in 1 or rarely 2 air melee hits.
The 2nd way is if you only hit the last tick on a grounded target you can go into air melee and then a alpha or tap gamma after that for more dmg

Gamma into air melee is good bit you gotta get used to when it can happen and you would be shocked how rarely those situations actually come up so dont use it as your main accel source but it can be good in a pinch if you see the chance to do it

[late storm]

Yeah sounds pretty rare

I guess using sa and alpha to boost me into an air melee is gonna be my best bet for people with shield/gp

that and ground melee on wake-up

[winged dawn]

Well dont limit your ground melee usage to only on wakeup. Its good in the short range too being a faster alternative to gamma (if gamma tracks that is) that can also convert into gamma alpha or beta alpha (M1 gamma is pretty consistent but if you want to be spicy then M1-2 melee cancel can make beta true too tho given its armor it will still likley work against most players to just do M1 beta)

[late storm]

Tbh I don’t really use my ground melee period rn

Don’t feel the need too

I just use gamma to close the distance

[winged dawn]

I understand, that was a suggestion i made for my guide even. Thanks to how mandatory accel is now tho i really gotta say that we should get rid of that habit and be more willing to go into ground melee raw when possible

[late storm]

I’ll look at a a few of the melee combos you suggested

[cursive parrot]

These are like all impractical, the most reasonable combo here is the 2nd one. The reason I can even hit the 1st and 3rd combo is because I'm using a tech that only lands half of an air melee.

First Combo: HalfAirMelee-AirMelee-Beta-Beta

Second Combo: Gamma-Gamma-Beta-Beta (requires only a rapid card)

Third Combo: Gamma-HalfAirMelee-AirMelee-Beta

Fourth Combo (ToD): Gamma-Gamma-Gamma-Beta-Beta (requires 2 rapid cards and accel)
You also gotta use SpA to be close enough to the opponent between Gammas.

Gamma-AirMelee-Beta-Beta is a combo I would recommend since it is practical and hits hard.

I believe you could land Gamma-HalfAirMelee-HalfAirMelee-Beta-Beta. It'd be really difficult tho, and it'd only be for style points.

[late storm]

man all his builds suck for accele tho

only one with lvl 11 accele is the crit perm one

well that and the quirk assist gear dangerous with the assault slot

[hoary rampart]

I swear, every time I begin considering making a new build for Hawks I immediately have a match where my current build saves my game lmao 😭

[winged dawn]

Quirk assist combat.....
Thats prob the best fit he has

[late storm]

yeah sadly only costume of his i dont have

[winged dawn]

Wind general heat for damage and formal suit dangerous for utility are the next ones id look into

[late storm]

I tried wind general heat but I wasnt sold on it

he already does so much damage

and the latter yeah is my main I love fast box opening

[winged dawn]

Which is why id say the utility from formal suit is better

Those 2 are probably comfortably 2nd and 3rd tho

[late storm]

alright

gonna be sad to lose wallrun tho

I'd perfected the wallrun gamma moonjump tech

guess I can just hold onto rapid cards

[topaz canyon]

Yeah that’s what I do

Until he gets a double blue fit accel is just better rn

[late storm]

yeah

double blue will go so hard on him

[weak prairie]

There’s a uhm infinite acceleration bug running around

Used strike hawks with accel and had it the whole game after hitting it once for some reason

[topaz canyon]

.

[topaz canyon]

Do you know what caused it?

[weak prairie]

Idk I think I hit the third melee where he goes up in the air and tried to cancel with a gamma

All I know is when the accel cd was on I had the effect and speed still

Now that I look back should have clipped it

[wary lagoon]

I wonder if that's what this Ochako had on.... she was zipping like speed hacks and her tuning was accel but she never got melee off

[weak prairie]

Yeah heard theirs one for mirko too

It’s definitely a overall accel bug running around

[wary lagoon]

Lovely

[hoary rampart]

It feels like there's always something going on with acceleration

[naive geyser]

So on his quirk assist should I put accel on it or ait for formal and do it with divine?

[wary lagoon]

Accel willpower if its the one im thinking of

Unless you like divine then do that but I think most people use the blue red assist

[winged dawn]

Btw i have recently gathered enough data for area reduction, it may be competing with accel for the best tune

Boost gamma into storm = free heal for most of the game
Need to rez?
Boost gamma into storm -> heal greens -> boost gamma back in zone and then back out into storm -> rez

300 hp with the best movement in the game makes this character basically unkillable unless you do enough damage in one blow to either down him or put him too low to enter storm safely AND he has no teamheals coming in

Actually dumbest crap ever but strawks abuses tf out of it almost like hes kuro

So the best tune combo i have found is quirk assist combat with accel and area reduction

[weak prairie]

Why not run both

You have a blue and red

Costume

[winged dawn]

....

[weak prairie]

Didn’t read to the end

[jade mango]

area reduction just feels like the best tunning in the game tbh

its crazy

[wary lagoon]

I love that tuning. I frequently run it on my main build. Its why I want them to give hawks a double red pur with a hero slot. That and when we get Aizawas new tuning is probably going to be very good for storm tuning. Or even Tamakis if you use ability cards often(I usually keep one of each on me)

[wary lagoon]

Personally I feel its probably top 5. Like its up there

[winged dawn]

1, area reduction
2, reinforced
3, hyper regen
4, space hop
5, wall runner

Crit perm can be slotted in anywhere and ordering is fairly subjective

[wary lagoon]

Im not really a will power person so I dont use it. I just suggest it because a lot of people seem to shift towards it.

My preferred red slots are
area, crushing, and annihilation.

[wary lagoon]

That seems pretty accurate. How do you feel on Mirkos? I ran some games with qfr and bunny hop on hawks and it uh went pretty well. I think the air from recovery i benefited more from than the wall jump (it was usj 😭 )

[winged dawn]

The wall jump hardly matters but the wakeup is really strong. Refer to the tier list i posted earlier.

[winged dawn]

.

Its good but considering its competing with the most coveted tune he has and the 4th place, its hard to suggest

[wary lagoon]

Its a suggestion on "well if you dont have x characters" pretty much. Like its fun but imo rapid is a very competitive slot for tuning.

[jade mango]

Bunny hop is goated

[weak prairie]

Am I doing something wrong on strike hawks seems like people recover more easily now so I can’t combo

[surreal canyon]

beta endlag got increased to normal
it was bugged last season and lost a lot of its endlag

besides that nothing else changed

[weak prairie]

Was easier to beta gamma last season

[surreal canyon]

yes

[weak prairie]

Wait do you mean the other players recovery endlag

Or like the actual beta

[surreal canyon]

no hawks' own endlag

after the beta he could do actions quicker last season

[weak prairie]

Oh you meant it was a nerf

What the hell

Strike hawks didn’t even do anything

💔

[surreal canyon]

it wasnt a nerf

he was unintentionally buffed

he's just normal now

[weak prairie]

What’s the new combos now

[surreal canyon]

@weak prairie these combos still exist, they're just harder to do now

[wary lagoon]

You can still Beta gamma. Im doing it no problem

You just need to be a little more aware

[naive geyser]

Not nearly as good as boost gamma but it's a good vertical movement after being soft knocked

[wary lagoon]

Its not as good as running accel BUT I agree. Bunny hop is really nice and tbh it helps disengage. If hawks could get a double rapid tuning with a hero slot that would nice

[topaz canyon]

THE TBAG WAS ACCIDENTAL I MEANT TO DASH

[wary lagoon]

I'll accidentally melee slap someone when I go to do a finisher 😭 the controls are so clunky sometimes

[topaz canyon]

yeah i hate when it looks to the person i killed that i tbagged them 😭

[naive geyser]

What i,m hoping for next szn

[wary lagoon]

byking bless us with a double blue, double red or a double purple

[surreal canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-poison-melt-spoon-stir-evil-plans-gif-16307830

byking crafting a double blue villain outfit

[topaz canyon]

I’d crash out 😭

[brittle brook]

That looked incredibly intentional too 😭

[patent beacon]

Yeah same

Not anymore

It's like it's worse than it used to be before it got bugged

[late storm]

yeah im not using accele

40sec cooldown and only like 15 seconds of use

every one and their mother has armour or shield making me not able to hit it

ill take my wallrunner back

gives me 5x more mobility

maybe when they give this guy a double rapid costume i'll use it

[late storm]

k actually im gonna give it a try with this wind general villain build where its 20s cooldown instead

[polar fern]

yeah that’s my problem with accel

kinda clashes with the temporary tunings cuz you really wanna have it on the right side

[wary lagoon]

He has like two builds with it on the right side. Wind General you can run fixer with it or hyper regen. Assist gear you can do embrittlement or qfr and accel.

-# at least thats what I got on those builds

[late storm]

i just struggle to get the melee off on gp too so that and the former makes it hard to justify

also I go strike hawks and suddenly everyone and their mother is playing yafo and strike kiri

fml

[wary lagoon]

I absolutely hate fighting those two 😔 for melee i try to slip one in after beta but in the current meta its kinda hard because you either have aoe fighters or you're melee trading. The amount of times ive hit m1 off a rapid deku who also m1s and we do it like 4 times before someone rolls away is hilarious.

[hoary rampart]

The amount of times me and someone else are just melee trading until we get knocked down at the same time is hilarious

[wary lagoon]

I have a clip from s9 of rapid hawks vs rapid hawks and we traded like 20 melees 😭 i gotta find it because it was so dumb

[hoary rampart]

Oh I need to see that that is GOLD

[wary lagoon]

yeah s9 lmao all ya hear is "wosh wosh" from our melees 😭

i think if froppy didnt come over we would will be trying to melee to this day LMAO

[mystic token]

LMAO

[hoary rampart]

The constant whooshing 😭 I love that sm

[wide pelican]

Didn't win...