#All For One

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split linden
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There's probably stats somewhere on the mhur database

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If you wanna run the math

undone grotto
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Hrrrh fine ill go look

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Just im honestly illiterate its info wise

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Its effect on lvl 10 is 2

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So debatedly that probably makes lvl3 either lvl 5 or lvl6 ngl

ashen fulcrum
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Level 10 Fixer increases tuning by 2x, basically doubles it.

Level 3 damage boost = 2.0%
Level 4 damage boost = 2.5%

Left side has Nagant (3), Denki (3), and Bakugo (4)
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2.0 + 2.0 + 2.5 > ×2 = 4.0 + 4.0 + 5.0 = 13% + 2% [Strike Dabi on right side] = 15% damage boost total

undone grotto
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Ahhhhhhh bliss

ashen fulcrum
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15% of 80 is 12, thus he deals 92 per alpha

undone grotto
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I wish ppl could ask to pin such info in forums

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Charged alpha is 170 on lvl 9, 15% from that is 25,5, thus we get 195,5 dmg from charged alpha

ashen fulcrum
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It's pretty simple once you get the hang of it cause all tuning is the same math and really the only one that matters is damage and HP/GP increases

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Everything else is mostly irrelevant

undone grotto
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Mhm

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Also needa figure out combos like

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Counting ticks of beta prolly, so can add like, a charged or normal alpha blast

ashen fulcrum
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Pull Startup Combos:
Keep in mind that none of the combos listed here are exclusive to a Pull, it's just much easier to do them starting off with it. These Pulls are also assuming you're in the air when you do them, as you should be for the most part.

Pull > Charged Alpha > Beta 3 > Charged Alpha:
Camera should be angled upwards for the first Alpha, otherwise the beta won't be able to connect. This is not technically a true combo, as the opponent can air recover after the first Alpha (and will auto-recover on GP), but more often than not, you can just keep holding Beta and they'll fall into it anyways. Initial Alpha can be avoided by Mirio if you're even slightly off timing, so if he's the only one pulled, you might as well just do a Beta string. This is the highest damage base-kit combo at AFO's disposal.

Pull > Beta 5 > Air Melee:
Good way to activate Melee tunings easily, that's it.

Pull > Air Melee > Alpha×2:
Slightly more scuffed version of the above combo, less reliable for a bit more damage. Activates Melee TUNING immediately rather than at the end of the combo (Making Embrittlement effective with it), opponents may be able to escape before the 2nd Alpha lands if their kit has the capabilities.

Push Startup Combos:
These can be hard to do consistently due to how wild AFO's Push can throw people, but it's free damage nonetheless.

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Push > Alpha:
Most consistent option. Simply shoot whoever you knocked back with an Alpha before they land on the ground and get their I-frames. Learning the timing and placement of the Alpha can take a bit but getting one in whenever you Push really adds damage over time. Possible to get 2 or 3 shots if they're falling for long enough.

Push > [Any Beta string]:
Very inconsistent from my experience. Requires a wall right behind your opponent so you're close enough to hit Beta, but even then, it only hits half the time.

Push > [Any Melee string]
As expected, you have to have a wall right behind them, and be right next to the person to do this. As a result, it very, very rarely comes up as an option.

Beta Startup:
This is really where the damage comes from, most initial hits on people are gonna be from Beta, so learning how to combo off it is important.

Beta 5 > Alpha:
Simplest and most consistent combo in AFO's kit, should always be done over just holding Beta. As mentioned in the Beta section above, there is almost no circumstance where it's better to hold a full Beta over ending it with something else.

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Beta 5 > Charged Alpha:
This is a case by case basis on whether or not it should be performed. If your opponent is off the ground, then this is pretty much confirmed on every character (bar Mirio), and is relatively easy to pull off. If your opponent is not off the ground, it's a bit riskier. Most people will roll as soon as they can, so it can be better to hold the Alpha a bit longer and just catch their roll with it. At high levels this does do more than enough damage for a guard break, so the pay off is often worth the attempt.

Beta 3 > Melee:
Slightly less damage than Beta into Alpha. Similar function to the Air Melee combos with activating Melee TUNING, but can be dangerous if done out in the open as it takes longer to perform and requires a closer proximity to the opponent. If they get hit at the very tip of Beta, the timing is tighter to run up and land a Melee, so try to remember how long the stun lasts.

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All basekit combos

undone grotto
ashen fulcrum
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I'm a nerd about AFO so I have pretty much all the info

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Favorite character since he released

undone grotto
ashen fulcrum
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Yeah the new bugs are really horrible

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It's why I've barely been playing the last few weeks

undone grotto
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True that

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I need to do 30 matches, thankfully i can do that in solos against bots and that way farm data but still

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I got him a purple black skin (fav colors), i got him from ticket (really hope thats not a waste like currently asskiri and kuro are in my case), and already put in a buncha stuff for budget build (which is hyper regen rev support too lol, base heat)

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And i trialed him like 10 days by losing horribly bro i feel so bad bc of that

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So ig if i wanna get better at him, i not only need to learn combos but also play supphaul more

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Supphaul is more limited and weak and handicapped char with training wheels hp wise (spa) so i can gradually learn strategy off him

tulip jewel
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I was trying to move btw

rapid cloud
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When will they fix the afo bugs? Maybe in the next update?

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Literally unplayable. I lost a lot due to technical problems.

ashen fulcrum
tender barn
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I have a confession

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I'm starting to like StrikeAFO

ashen fulcrum
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Unfortunately I am also starting to like him

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Still think his alpha is buns tho

tender barn
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If he had tech AFO alpha he'd actually be kinda good

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But since it's not his damage is wildly inconsistent

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Sometimes you're dropping thunderbolts like Zeus and landing all your 300 damage gammas and killing people in seconds for even daring to look at you

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But more often times you're whiffing your gamma, they're falling out of it or it's being beaten because it's slow without any armor; your beta doesn't hit them enough times (or even too many times and your gamma followup fails), or you're unable to secure kills because you only get 5 alpha shots and the damage is inconsistent

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And then after inevitably using up all your skills you're spending a good 10 seconds uncomfortably waiting to get them back.

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All because his alpha takes 20%

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why even make it percentage-based? Idk, so fusing it with gamma can cost 25% because why not

undone grotto
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im actually starting to cook huh (tafo) (budget build)

spark adder
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yo does anyone here have like general tips on strafo?

undone grotto
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debatedly whats better

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i do think i want jump ht under fixer ngl :(

undone grotto
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alr time to demolish prolly

brave brook
undone grotto
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Hmmmm then should I switch off the purples on the right?

brave brook
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but in my preference, I'd always go gamma reloads over betas, his gamma is just the move that leads into the most devastating combos. Same can be said for strike afo too

undone grotto
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Fair, but ngl im not feeling any gamma angles in chaos city nor ua rn

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Mostly relying on alphas thus

ashen fulcrum
undone grotto
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fair

brave brook
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gotta play dangerously sometimes for the max reward

undone grotto
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well ive learnt how to do generic gamma + beta + uncharged alpha finni

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im gittin gud

ashen fulcrum
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AFOs best map is UA

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Arguably Chaos

undone grotto
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Ive been landing in coffin for solos blatantly

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its kinda pog

brave brook
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only works with high lvl beta tho, preferably lvl 9, but if ur lucky you can pull it off with lvl 4

undone grotto
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Yeahhh fr with the max range

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also i havent crashed today

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yet

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so i tried nagants quirk (im trash at aiming wow)

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damn dmg uppies help her lol

covert harbor
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For tech that is what should I tune

undone grotto
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eh prolly if you like dmg minmax

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dangerous variant has a good fixer angle

covert harbor
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What about hero style

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Just that I don't know what specials id use

covert harbor
undone grotto
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he doesnt benefit that much from small blue slots tho

covert harbor
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I can tell

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Decided to go with the dangerous one

brave brook
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that's what it always looks like when a nagant is shooting me, bullets look like they're gonna fly past me but they curve into my body

undone grotto
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i was missing like

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hairs

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but well ig im justbad

ashen fulcrum
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Her bullets don't literally curve to hit people

brave brook
cerulean marlin
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Has anyone else been crashing sometimes when they swap quirks?

past cargo
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do they not?

ashen fulcrum
# past cargo do they not?

Complicated explanation but it's just a discrepancy in player ping and latency that makes the bullets "curve" to visually land on the target

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They would've landed anyways

ashen fulcrum
pale axle
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When they fixing all for crashing

brave brook
devout light
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I haven't been crashing, but sometimes after swapping quirks it won't swap back even though the swap goes off

burnt ridge
burnt ridge
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When it makes me stuck with strike afo so now I HAVE to stall in the air and be as annoying as possible

devout light
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I really need the swap to work

livid lintel
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Is there a way to stop people moving whilst I'm using Plunder

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It usually works on my 2nd attempt

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But missing it can really mess me up sometimes

undone grotto
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Id say
Air melee???

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Or melee

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It'd probably make them staggered for long enough

ashen fulcrum
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Make it a habit

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Stops dabis from reviving and people from crawling out of plunder

livid lintel
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I'm not sure how I didn't think of that

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Thank you

tulip jewel
livid lintel
tulip jewel
ashen fulcrum
split linden
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My buggy ultra rumble

undone grotto
static vine
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I do need to share this.

undone grotto
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Kurogiri Effects in motion lol jk

spring sparrow
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The Demon Lord gets a hoverboard now

brave brook
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but I'll see when it comes out I guess

spring sparrow
rose harness
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Uhh what happened to AFO

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i cant switch into the quirk i stole

undone grotto
brave brook
# tender barn Clip batch!

Why’s beta tick > charged alpha look so consistent when you do it, I’ve played TAFO for so long and have never done it off raw beta

devout light
tender barn
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It helps if you jump in with it

modern zinc
tender barn
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with fixer lv9 alpha can do 90-101 damage so air melee>alpha>alpha can do at least 260

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without wasting beta

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obs if they're airborne it's beta/charge alpha season all the way

normal pecan
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man i hate i cant go back to afo quirk, stuck on the one i stole

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hopfully new season fix this sht

undone grotto
split linden
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Nooo they "fixed" afo

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Why does monoma get insta swap but the literal demon lord can't 😭

ashen fulcrum
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He is the best area controller in the game 😭

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CD reset is not needed at all

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And only promotes crutch gameplay anyways

split linden
ashen fulcrum
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Not really

brave brook
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probably yafo, u have to leave if u don't wanna take massive dmg from his beta

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and it's harder to disable his gamma now since grab characters can't disable superarmor anymore

scenic onyx
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Monoma isn’t the best area controller in the game💀

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He has to steal quirks, it’s super dependent

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It’s probably red Shiggy, Yafo, or yellow endeavor

tulip jewel
tulip jewel
scenic onyx
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Oh…. That’s arguable but probably still not the best

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He’s a zoner, but not so much area control

brave brook
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he's lowk probably top 3 in area control if it's a chaotic situation where it makes gamma harder to dodge

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but in 1v1s he's just not that

ashen fulcrum
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Are you being dead serious saying AFO doesn't dogwalk in most of the cast in a 1v1

brave brook
ashen fulcrum
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His beta is an entire force of area control

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It's literally unavoidable if the AFO isn't braindead

brave brook
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we were talking about top 1 area control, I wouldn't put tafo in top 1 cuz of just beta

tulip jewel
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Easiest kill in the game if he dosen't have another quirk

ashen fulcrum
ashen fulcrum
tulip jewel
ashen fulcrum
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Matchup check

brave brook
ashen fulcrum
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A few characters bully him but most of the time the AFO wins assuming both players are of equal skill

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I can kill AFOs in 1v1 because his players are usually very bad and have no idea how to zone with him

tulip jewel
tulip jewel
brave brook
tulip jewel
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Watch them spam their aplhas in the middle of a fight like nice free damage

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And they LOVE using their gammas right in your face instead of behind cover

ashen fulcrum
ashen fulcrum
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Carried by the build

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Otherwise alpha is kinda useless and beta is fine but meh after the damage nerf

brave brook
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hit 101 dmg on someone that probably had low amount or no amount of defensive mini tunes

ashen fulcrum
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AFO Alpha is peak

brave brook
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as someone who's done it and as someone who's been victim of it

tender barn
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Top 5 if you don't include the charge alpha in the mix

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Move's nuts

brave brook
# tender barn Move's nuts

WISH I could do charged after beta consistently, I get interrupted by the person I'm trying it on most the time

pale axle
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Did they fix all for one

brave brook
# pale axle Did they fix all for one

They said nothing about fixing his crashing issues, but I've played maybe 9 or so matches in the season with him so far, haven't crashed nor not been able to switch to my stolen quirk. So I can't say they haven't fixed him, but I also can't say for sure that they have

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So it's a maybe?

pale axle
hoary cave
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DO YOU SEE HOW I GET JUMPED WHILE USING BETA TOMURA🗣️

ashen fulcrum
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It's not hitting unless it's against a character with insane endlag

tulip jewel
# ashen fulcrum In a 1v1? Yeah

You're supose to predict where they go or get in their face with it its not hard unless you're dealing with the faster characters in the game

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U can also hit them with a jump melee then combo with alpha, i think u can also do this on the ground but i haven't been using him in a bit

tender barn
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It's so important

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AFO 101

brave brook
# tender barn p r a c t i c e

Been practicing in real matches for a day or two, can hit it sometimes, other's I get interrupted when they decide to spam an attack, like twice spamming beta

tender barn
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the closer you are the more consistent it is

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which is why jumping in with it helps

main wadi
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did they nerf Strike AFO full charge gamma or am I tripping
or did they nerf Fixer

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cuz my fixer gammas were doing 319 before the new season
now they do 300

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can someone test it for me

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I forget how much his previous full charge gamma did

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unless its Fixer that got nerfed

scenic onyx
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So how does AFO SA cooldown work now?

robust rivet
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so if your purple it works like it originally did, and if your red just pick another character

scenic onyx
robust rivet
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yes

ashen fulcrum
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As it should be

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Too many fake mains coming in to abuse an exploit as soon as they saw a cooldown reset

ashen fulcrum
past cargo
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I remember the one time i got into your game and funny enough i was playing afo

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Only managed to get 2 kos and spent the rest of the game watching superior afo gameplay

ashen fulcrum
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I'm aight tho

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Wouldn't say I'm that good

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There's better players

undone grotto
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Prev season i tried very hard to NOT use his spa at all

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This season i crashed several times on tech shiggy already

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Im full on traumatized

ashen fulcrum
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Now that I can actually play my main again I've been cooking

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Had me stuck on other characters last season

undone grotto
# ashen fulcrum Had me stuck on other characters last season

Rn bc of miruko influx im resorting to strodo
But thankfully now i got monoma... And made him a trash budget build so im learning him instead
He's the closest i can get to Best Jeanist one of my fav chars thanks to his default skin combat ver so im lowkey happy
Otherwise I'm pulling for techmight. Bro creeped on me offrate there LOL
Now i can team up with afos and be their second ❤️ ✨

tender barn
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Nagant fullstacks make me not wanna play man

ashen fulcrum
tender barn
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A char like Nagant will always be giga broken unless they actually balance out the fact that she is, by design, a sniper

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A sniper cannot have power, range AND speed all at once

normal pecan
tender barn
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So you can't just shoot her, if the double jumping didn't already give her too much air evasion

tulip jewel
main wadi
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Has Red AFO gamma been nerfed

brave brook
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this influx of mirko makes me think of playing someone else for rn, like tokoyami so I can counter her annoying moveset Cementoss

brave brook
main wadi
ashen fulcrum
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I've heard a few people complain about less Gamma damage though

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So maybe they shadow nerfed AFO

main wadi
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Yeah cuz my Fixer gamma did 319 last season

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Now it does a flat 300

tender barn
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Idk why the devs hate AFO lol

tender barn
tender barn
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As AFO Mirko your main combo starters are beta and gamma
You can combo beta into gamma into beta or a switch move
or gamma beta gamma into beta or switch move
w/o Mirko's SA, you can only really combo alpha into itself

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You can do: Gamma>Gamma>Beta>Beta
or
Beta>Gamma>Gamma>Beta

Gamma>Gamma>Gamma>Alpha>Beta

Melee123>Gamma>Beta

Air Melee>Gamma>Beta

Anytime you can get a gamma, you can follow up into a switch move (TechnicalTechAFO Beta/Alpha/Charge Alpha, StrikeStrikeAFO Gamma(Alpha+Beta)

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Gamma>Beta>Gamma>Beta is totally fine too

split linden
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What is the best quirk to combo with tech afo gamma?

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Like the best move to follow up a juicy pull

tender barn
tender barn
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Yeah

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No quirk needed

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this is base TechAFO 101

split linden
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No, stolen ability is what i meant

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Not afo base kit

tender barn
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You want gamma pull combos into stolen quirk combos?

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Granted TAFO's explosive charge alpha combos it's kinda redundant to do that

scenic onyx
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Just gonna throw it out there.

I think Strike AFO is worse than Tech obviously. But he’s really not a bad character, having base kit mobility is nice, obviously not huge kill/damage potential on its own against decent players.

But mixing it with another kit really has potential on its own. Fun stuff and probably middle of the pack but definitely not BAD

scenic onyx
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Obviously star and stripe beta and alpha off pull

split linden
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I did pull into yafo beta before

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So I was just curious

tender barn
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I mean

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AFO mirko is fun

soft kindle
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i think i wrote off strike afo way too early, beta max and this character is vile

scenic onyx
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Oh I almost never beta max him

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First at least

scenic onyx
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Any reason you play controller on PC?

ashen fulcrum
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Cause it's peak

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Honestly at this point even if I wanted to switch to kbm I wouldn't

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I'm full controller muscle memory for mhur

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I'm just on PC for the fps

scenic onyx
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I’ve played both and KBM feels exponentially better lmao

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I think this is the worst feeling game I’ve played on controller

tender barn
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I don't hate myself enough to join that league

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learn how to play the most awkward controller ever just to get an advantage over everyone else

scenic onyx
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It’s just a more optimal way to play a majority of games lmao

tender barn
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Spoken like a keyboard sweat

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"lemme play the optimal controller vs the one that's actually made to play video games"

scenic onyx
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I play on controller currently

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This is very strange behavior tho lmao

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Using kbm isn’t sweaty 💀 it just is usually better for aiming on aim heavy games

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You can still like controller more. And there are people that are much better on controller than people on kbm.

Didn’t mean to hit a nerve lmao

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Wii remote was made for the Wii. Super smash brothers still is much better on GameCube controller. Similar situation

split linden
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Does acceleration do anything on tech afo?

tulip jewel
split linden
undone grotto
scenic onyx
undone grotto
vale osprey
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How is Card Dupe on both AFOs if anyone has used it here

ashen fulcrum
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I think it's actually pretty well managed

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I'd rather be in crossplay lobbies on this game than 95% of others

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Aim is less of a factor

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And there's not really any limited combos or anything

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Tho is it easier on higher fps

ashen fulcrum
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Usually not getting early kills as AFO unless the opponents suck though

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Actually nvm max level lasts like the whole game

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So yeah it's pretty solid

tender barn
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So yeah, I'd say it's absolutely worth it if you can fit it in with whatever TUNING build you're going for

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It can also make you less of a level hog in general, so you can start feeding your teammates too

vale osprey
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Fixer + Card Dupe is my go combo if I can get it. If only AFO had a new costume that allowed for it...

Revenge Strike + Level 11 Fixer or Fixer + Level 11 Card Dupe, decisions decisions...

soft kindle
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what is tech afo skill order?

tender barn
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An argument can be made to get alpha to 9 before beta for whatever reason

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(not recommended)

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But an argument CANNOT be made for beta not reaching lv4 first

soft kindle
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firstly thank you, second, what maps do you absolutely not run tech?

tender barn
soft kindle
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sounds about right

tender barn
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Tech is just a all-around solid character

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His alpha being as good as it is makes him a good beamer

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On top of having AoE slop that pierces walls

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(what he's better known for)

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But even without it you can just

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shoot them

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Only issue is that he can't fly without a quirk, something I personally hate Nagant and friend for making that the standard of this game's meta

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But play smart, consider your positioning carefully and land your shots and you'll do fine

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Chances are when you're playing well, you'll get your greasy hands on a quirk that lets you just fly wherever

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Cuz everyone and thier dog and their dog's mother plays chars like Mirio, Nagant and Froppy

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all chars whose quirks compliment AFO perfectly

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Well, maybe less Nagant's case, but hey she flies, so that counts for something

soft kindle
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beefy nagant was awesome

scenic onyx
# ashen fulcrum Aim is less of a factor

I think aim is relatively easy in this game compared to others but still a really big factor.

I think the game sensitivity/camera movement just feels different than most, not a fan

tender barn
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Why is my StrikeAFO cooking

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What is happening to me

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I don't like it

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Make it stop

scenic onyx
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He’s a cool and solid character. Just roll with it

jovial swallow
soft kindle
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double strike shigaraki was hillarious

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10/10

somber parrot
viscid lantern
vale osprey
soft kindle
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this, was the single greatest game, i've ever played

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last enemy team was a mirko strike dabi and ofa deku

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we were completely unkillable

tender barn
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oh dang sick

undone grotto
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Ngl itd prolly kinda make you a tiny bit like nagant spa

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Jumping midair

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I wanna try fr

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Wonder if wall jump ht tunes alter values with it

somber parrot
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Why does safo feel so mid against a competent person

spring sparrow
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I mean

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His alpha is well bad

tender barn
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no joke

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I'd rather have Tech Dabi's than this

brave brook
ashen fulcrum
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Alpha is his only real damage in most 1v1s and alpha is dogass

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Gamma will just get rolled and beta is pretty useless out in the open

tender barn
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Also Gamma being slow isn't even its worst issue

past cargo
tender barn
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They fall out of it or interupt it by sneezing at you cuz for some reason it has absolutely no armor

ashen fulcrum
past cargo
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i cant stop rewatching it

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so satisfying

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im unsure how the iida did not see me but i'll take it lmao

normal pecan
split linden
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My eyes have been blessed

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And a buffet of quirks to take too

normal pecan
somber parrot
ashen fulcrum
tender barn
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Having a good alpha makes such a massive difference

brave brook
ashen fulcrum
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Those 8 person pulls hit different

scenic onyx
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Playing Tech AFO mid season onward in Ace should do the trick 💀

livid lintel
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im beginning to think there might be a speed cap in this game

ashen fulcrum
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Got ace

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THREE TIMES

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In past seasons

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Genuinely why should anybody with a negative kd ever be in the highest rank in the game

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Games a joke

past cargo
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That’s nonexistent 😭

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1 ko across 27 games??

ashen fulcrum
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I don't even know how you gain points like that

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this rank system is comical

tender barn
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respectfully

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what am I looking at?

ashen fulcrum
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You're looking at my randoms KTK

past cargo
past cargo
ashen fulcrum
tender barn
# past cargo You don’t full stack?

Yeah lemme just materialize the pocket third I have at all times at any given moment, who lives in my basement and exists purely to be my heal slave

ashen fulcrum
tender barn
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Unfortunately full-stacking isn't exactly the most convenient thing in the world

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Duos is totally reliable though,

all the more reason why they never should have removed Duos, BYKING.

ashen fulcrum
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Added duos like one time and then genuinely forgot it existed

past cargo
ashen fulcrum
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If I'm desperate I just invite front my agency but they usually stack

tender barn
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(love him)

past cargo
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My friends and I goof around and play funny team comps

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Weve done afo tech shiggy monoma

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That was funny

tender barn
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"Hey KTK, am I really just a heal bot to you?"

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"Yes, now back in the bus with you"

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Typical duos experience

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Peak MHUR

spare crystal
split linden
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Oh and all 3 of u use the boss build

burnt ridge