Momo Yaoyorozu

[devout hill]

Looks like our shield just disappear sometime 💀

[weary pond]

That's been happening since idk 4 5 seasons now

[devout hill]

I see

[native niche]

👀

[weary pond]

👀

[random moth]

They must've secretly nerfed the team heals drop rate from lucky bags

Because there's no way

Probably they did that because of twisted fortune

[next notch]

Slick devs

[random moth]

At least 3-4 lucky bags every single game legit can't get team heals

[next notch]

😔

[queen fable]

Time to go to practice at spam lucky bag to test

[next notch]

Does the health of your teammates relate to it at all? Maybe if they're low it has a higher chance of spawning similar to revive cards when someone is down

[west lily]

i got 2 team heals from 1 just now

[west lily]

i think someone did some intestive testing , maybe looked at code too. i dont think so.

[random moth]

I played like 5 or 6 matches earlier today on Momo

Not a single team heal

From lucky bags

[west lily]

dang, i shulda clipped. maybe my team was low and maybe late game/storm coudl effect. idk

butonly played 1 game of momo and thats the only time i got

[random moth]

Im convinced they hard nerfed the drop rate because of Twisted Fortune

[next notch]

Dang

[west lily]

do u feel gold boxes drop the same rate?

[random moth]

Im getting team heals from gold boxes and off the ground more often than my lucky bag

At this point, Momo has lost a major part of her value to a team

[random moth]

I wanna make sure if other Momo players like @native niche and @north ravine are experiencing this

[north ravine]

I haven't played Momo as much as of late, but I'll look into it.

I did create a Divine Protection/Twisted Fortune build recently

So that should give me an incentive to play her.

[random moth]

Alright

[native niche]

What did I do?

Nah its fine

Mans just got the bad luck

Are you using your bag alot?

[random moth]

Yes

[native niche]

Spam purple cards to charge bag

[random moth]

I do

I guess im too unlucky 🥀

[native niche]

They haven't been a problem for me when I play

[weary pond]

👀

[north ravine]

Some people are just ridiculously unlucky

[north ravine]

Had 4 bags, only 1 team drink on one match

[native niche]

Ayo y do randos W key into cannons??????

[north ravine]

Honestly, I've been having relatively normal (from my experience) luck with the bags

Which is like 1 full drink every 3 bags

[north ravine]

I actually had better luck with team enhancement kits than full team drinks; I think I counted 5 enhancement kits and only... 3? 4? full drinks.

Last match of the night though skewed it with a double team enhancement and 1 full team in the same bag...

On another note... Yea, Twisted Fortune is a sleeper game breaker

I haven't had games where I was ending with ~10 team drinks this often

[queen fable]

% of momo's bag should be based on team needs like revive card. Someone is low hp? Higher % of team heal

Are ur team's average lvs under 5 or 6? Then more % of getting a team enhancement kit

I mean, it could be cool

And still saying, nejire's tunning is so satisfying to use

[weary pond]

👀

[north ravine]

Honestly, the randomness is definitely designed in a counterintuitive fashion

Even if everyone on your squad is 9/9/9, you can still receive a team enhancement kit

I can give level up cards a pass since you have the skill cards to carry around, but the team drinks are so inconsistent in appearance rates that I'd say another rework is necessary

Then again, after seeing the fiasco that was the EU tourney situation...

[random moth]

This is me with GP and HP drinks

Just yesterday i was full on GP but extremely low on HP, with no HP drinks on me

So i used my lucky bag for some HP drinks

I got 4 whole GP drinks, not a single HP one

This has happened a few times before too

[next notch]

What is your luck this season 💀

[random moth]

https://tenor.com/view/omniman-gif-26206182

[queen fable]

Besides kamko drama and the one single leak (they seem to keep the rest) idk how bad was the commentary or the tourney

[weary pond]

W momo buff

i think

[hollow bear]

That's great news!

[queen fable]

What was it

The buff i mean

[weary pond]

I'm not sure exactly, but she gets her 2nd or 3rd gamma at lower levels but at a reload penalty

[random moth]

She starts with 2 cannons now

[queen fable]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-my-hero-academia-momo-yaoyorozu-boku-no-hero-academia-dancing-gif-15273895

[native niche]

Now i dont need to level up gamma no more

👀

[random moth]

Yeah

Focus on maxxing alpha leveling beta, 2 cannons right of the bat is good for area control

[jolly torrent]

In exchange, the reload speed is reduced.

So don't go spamming them. 😭

[random moth]

It's just the penalty reload that got increased

Only at levels 1-3

Because she got more ammo now

So makes sense

[next notch]

May be time to hop back on momo now

[stiff meadow]

is the reload speed the same at level 4-9?

[north ravine]

They did not touch levels 4-9.

All they adjusted, was the penalty reload for levels 1-3 due to the fact you have 2 cannons instead of 1. A typical adjustment that has happened whenever other 1 ammo moves received additional ammo.

[north ravine]

For 2 days, you too can make people regret disrespecting your presence.

[surreal bear]

give momo a new set where she drops 7 atomic bombs

and her alpha being a rocket launcher

[north ravine]

Even better idea actually. Give her a button that kills the enemy instantly.

https://tenor.com/view/mewgenics-first-degree-murder-funny-gif-7234273051520593269

[surreal bear]

absolutely

[modern edge]

We the people

[weary pond]

Momo

https://tenor.com/view/momo-bnha-gif-18034069

[surreal bear]

OMG I JUST SAW A CLIP OF MOMO IN A MOVIE

WAS THAT A MADOKA MAGICA REFERENCE??

SHE DID 3 CANNON WITH YELLOW BEAMS

[modern edge]

9.2k healing 😭

[onyx hare]

ts was not the wind, vro. 💔

[primal dust]

Early season clip 💔

[night wraith]

thinking about running fixer - quirk factor release, worth compared to my other costume?

[onyx hare]

I wouldn't say I'm a momo pro, but I've barely lost any games with her. I'd say it's worth it, an extra damage slot compared to your og tuning, and that villain fixer has more damage potential- anybody you want on the red slot, assault endeavor on one of the yellows, and assault overhaul on another

[north ravine]

That build would definitely function better than your previous build for Fixer and normal tuning overall IMO

Though if you're looking for a Fixer build and own the Yukata, default has the far superior options.

[night wraith]

xd the one im using rn is yukata

[night wraith]

do yall have any other suggs if theres something better? i figured release would be great along w fixer

[north ravine]

Crushing KO Charge is also another option on default Yukata, or you could try some other tech special tuning aside from Fixer

And since you're working with a tech slot on the default Yukata, you could swap it out with some other stuff like High speed replenishment, hyper regeneration, etc.

Yukata Dangerous could work if you want a Strike/Rapid Hero style special tuning for Momo too.

[north ravine]

Quirk Factor Release doesn't really change anything for Momo. Her skills are pretty fast to hard knockdown, and having "more" skills doesn't really change the outcome on whether the enemy escapes or dies

For example, her cannons. The damage and DP nerfs have reached a point where they're only taking like a third of the enemy's survivability if they rush in, but then they can just fly off without losing any more HP

She doesn't need any additional skills upon downing anybody since a well positioned gamma + good timed alphas can delete a body with low commitment (or simply beta unga bunga the downed person).

[tough slate]

https://tenor.com/view/address-me-gif-3314967408153193330

Brother

How and why tf are you allowed to post that in here???

[slow frigate]

Please report to a mod if you see anything like this in the future - not all mods are happy to be pinged but you can ping me anytime

[queen fable]

crossing fingers for momo QSS next season

[next notch]

She deserves it

[primal dust]

Yay

[weary pond]

Thoughts on momos quirk skillset having a stance based quirk ? (not all quirk slots and or others can be woven into it but can be used on there own individually)

[north ravine]

What type of benefits would the stance provide? I would assume it would be more of a defensive stance since she doesn't exactly have a rushdown kind of quirk.

[weary pond]

A blend of and different types of abilities like range projectile, up close melee, aoe ,defensive small shield ,etc.. in the stance.

Since she can use creati to pull out a whole sort of things in a moments notice in the game.

I feel like they can utilize the different functions in the game were if the player taps or holds a quirk a different attack comes out of it.

I think that goes hand to hand with her quirk.

[north ravine]

Momo definitely sounds like the type of character they'll incorporate all of the multifunctional BS that comes with power crept skill variations based on how long the button is held

[weary pond]

Or they don't even need to do that in the stance she can use her other quirks

I played blazblue entropy recentlt and a character has a stance ability where she can dash, use a long range spear, normal up-close attack.

I just don't know a good implementation they can do. But given that momo can create almost anything and byking has a solid track record for their unique characters and abilities. I think they would nail it. Just idea though, it's not like I want them to do it. If all momo gets a quirkset in the first place 😁😆😭😮‍💨

[queen fable]

im so tired of triple QSS of characters that don't need at all another QSS...

[onyx hare]

I understand why they decided on bakugo, people have been quite literally theorizing about a tech bakugo since forever, them actually doing it feeds the hype

[queen fable]

well yeah, but he has already a QSS and a good moveset in both QSS, just like present mic, underrated, just happens that the meta still full of OFA deku with instant melee tunnings and inf combo, insta kill nagants, tech shiggy's etc... But then u have momo or ibara that are struggling (specially momo since ibara at least can attack on air and has 2 revives)

[onyx hare]

Yeah I understand where you’re coming from, with not being able to have fun on the character you like cuz of the meta countering it. Sadly we can’t do much about that other than playing someone else, that’s why I’ve got quite a few mains

[random moth]

We never getting a Momo QSS

😔

[tough slate]

Rip

[random moth]

@native niche storm camping is cooked 💔

MOMO is cooked 😔

[onyx hare]

finally

[queen fable]

I swear if her melee is another instant unreactable combo starter...

[native niche]

We gonna have to rely on randos being good now

They better fix up this team up problem

Gonna have to play in squad now

She now is weak 👀

Alot of grounded characters now are weak from this. No where to run and hide now. Gonna have to somehow deal with the flying nejires and nagant etc

And non mobility

[queen fable]

we need a QSS or some kind of advantage atp, we are one of the few characters that rely on enemies to be on the floor to do dmg and we have no QSS. Ibara can attack flying enemies, overhaul somewhat can with his alpha and has QSS, kirishima has a QSS at least and better mobility than momo, Mt lady got buffed by a lot and has still better mobility... We are getting shadow nerfed, now that storm camping wont be a viable playstyle

[native niche]

Just need to play as squad. Now not able to carry.

Sad times

Cant rely on randos

Expecting me to carry my team as a ace player

And using a non mobility character etc

Im gud ill just squad up next season

[random moth]

Wishful thinking

They finna destroy what many low tiers rely on just because of a new character's gimmick

[native niche]

Low tiers done for after this 😢

[random moth]

Hope we get buffs in compensation

[native niche]

At this point bring back old cannons

They really dont like to see mo cook

[random moth]

The low dp cannons lowk too strong just bring back the 125 damage

Cannons can't guardbreak anymore

[native niche]

They need to just give non mobile characters faster running

All of them

👀

[random moth]

I remember your characters list and Momo was in the guarbreakers tier

Then i saw the recent nerf

[native niche]

So at least we can do something

[random moth]

And went

[native niche]

Or better dodge rolls

[random moth]

"Oh there goes her gimmick"

[native niche]

She can still guard break but it cost you to be on frontline for it

I wouldn't recommend since it will cost a arm and a leg

[random moth]

Beta dash speed increase

[native niche]

Bring back invicible

[random moth]

Yes

[native niche]

Typi

Typo

[random moth]

She's valid to have invincible beta back in the current meta ngl

[native niche]

Idk what they tried to do with the stuff

Who the storm nerfing?

Not nagant nejire and the high tiers

👀

[random moth]

It's just as a counter measure for S&S's spa

Which is

Solely for that

Is dumb

Her special doesn't even last that long

[tough slate]

Peep star’s tuning

[random moth]

Yeah

Idk what to pair it with tho

If only revenge strike still worked in storm

I can only pair it with a support or a hero assault tuning

Box opener or twisted fortune might be it

[tough slate]

Or casual style

[random moth]

Ion have it 😔

[weary pond]

👀

[random moth]

Star can just go to a building comp in a small room and do this

[queen fable]

[weary pond]

No plus ultra tunings neither we are cooked

[random moth]

I wish Momo had a double red hero outfit

Id run area reduction + ability manifest

Camp the heck out of the storm

[weary pond]

I wish she had double rapid with hero on the right

[random moth]

Same

Rapid Momo would be real

Accel wall runner

Devs making the Yukata more valuable once again with Star's tuning

[random moth]

Peak support build? Should i switch out gamma damage for alpha damage?

[weary pond]

It's good, only if it had all the special action reloads. And I would keep y attack power. You don't have overhaul which sucks but that damage can be made up from strike teammates or strike cards.

[native niche]

I tried it It doesnt feel good to use for me 😢

[random moth]

Why not

It halves storm damage

[native niche]

Ill try it some more

Was testing builds earlier it wqs all feeling nasty atm

[random moth]

Aight

[native niche]

I remember the round. A team and a random hunted me

Teammates wasn't there to save

[random moth]

Average solo q experience

I played a match earlier with my teammate on Star, using comms
Team comp was peak

Kept giving me the storm flip when i needed it

[next notch]

It's always nice when you get a solo q team with synergy

[random moth]

Wasn't solo q it was my friend but yes

[next notch]

Ah

[weary pond]

👀

[tulip ibex]

what leveling path should i use for her?

i havent played her in a while and i know she got a new thing for her gamma

[native niche]

I do beta alpha then gamma if im attacking

If a support build gamma at least lv6 to break buildings 💀

They low key nerfed it from level 4 to lv 6

[tulip ibex]

i see thank you!!

[native niche]

People do make alpha beta then gamma

Do whatever ypu want to do its your playstyle

You could build same way as them but are you playing exactly like them? 👀 same tuning? 👀 same squad? 👀

[tulip ibex]

that makes sense

[dense grove]

does anyone know why her beta just sometimes doesn't drop??

[north ravine]

It's a feature we simply have to live with

[west lily]

Cap theres no way ur not running sns

I wana run a froppy / sns build

Seems fun

[onyx hare]

not everyone likes to sit in storm on her, it's not how I play either, I'll stick with my aggressive momo whenever I use her

[west lily]

U must not know w man

Inventer of storm camp

[onyx hare]

I don't, but I play aggressive in every game, I don't like switching my playstyle for characters, that's why I built an aggressive tuning for momo

[west lily]

I was referring to wman on the sns build

And u can be agro in storm. Cannon

Aggressively

[onyx hare]

never heard of him, sounds interesting though

[native niche]

Cannons got mad nerfed

I can play sort of same

Its just the randos gets worse and worse every season

Im human so why am I trying so hard

What im trying to do now is try to help more pple out since randos not getting correct info

Ss tuning doesnt last whole game either 💀

[weary pond]

👀

[queen fable]

let's be real star's tunning no one besides momos and kurogiris are gonna use it... Except maybe for assault ochako's with that build that also has nejire's luck tunning (i saw a lot of those in CSEN scrims that gives money to the winners)

[north ravine]

I'm gonna keep it real, Momo is just not designed for this meta

Base 110 per cannonball at 250 DP each does not cut it with how much regeneration exists now.

With how many get-out-of-jail-free recoveries there are, you must be able to shutdown people instantly without giving them a chance to be fully healed by a team drink.

Her alpha is even worse too thanks to the fact that it's going to force guard break on the next hit after a cannonball, meaning it's likely going to spike the enemy straight to the floor for even more I-frames

[queen fable]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[north ravine]

The only real fundamental changes that could make her more relevant without making her overpowered would definitely be a rework of her alpha (specifically against airborne HP based targets) so she can actually connect a full string of attacks, whether it be into cannons, her beta or more alphas.

As it currently stands, giving tech Shigaraki another few seconds to heal from Revenge Support + Hyper Regeneration after catching him using his alpha in the air for like... 48 damage from a level 9 alpha (base damage) is the best Momo mains got.

[weary pond]

Make her alpha do true damage 😈

[north ravine]

Naturally have it apply Trance Blow or some new status related to concussions

[west lily]

(lil bro though of using sky for cement pillars. doesnt play this game. ingenious. Pretuning. patched)

[north ravine]

Kinda amazing to think how the devs never thought Cementoss' projectiles attaching to the height limit was fine to leave in the game.

[tough slate]

Twisted Fortune Momoment

[brave flint]

Guys how good is star tuning for momo?

[tough slate]

Very

[native niche]

Gonna have to play in team. Solo is not it

[tough slate]

Best team comp I’ve ever had lol

[gusty flame]

what are the best characters to pair with momo apart from star and stripers

[west lily]

Kuro for when you inevitably die

[native niche]

Blue lemillion and blue all might

👀

[gusty flame]

ty

[weary pond]

What's better alpha dmg or beta dmg tuning? For her alpha,melee,alpha beta combo?

[normal needle]

I truly don't know bro because I increase both so I can't say

[random moth]

Id go alpha because anyway because it's what Momo would use the most

Also her most consistent move for damage

[native niche]

Alpha can hit pple in air while beta hits pple on ground

Alpha more versatile unless you running around with beta then just upgrade beta. Its more of how you play the character

But i do beta first if im playing attack build.

[north ravine]

Alpha is the more important tool to buff since the stagger is what allows you to even chain into full combos.

Melee attack power doesn't bring much to the table since she doesn't use it for more than adding a little more damage to a combo. Beta is only consistent when used in combos for attacking as it's braindead easy to just roll, so you aren't hitting it often enough to warrant upgrading.

[north ravine]

Momo's best synergies involve characters who either assist in landing cannonfire through either protecting her or making the target easier to hit (Tech AFO, S&S, Tech Shoto, Tech Dabi) or cover her horrendous lack of range/ability to hit flying targets (Tech Kaminari, Rapid Might, or any other sharpshooter).

Momo's anti-synergies would be characters who hinder her cannonfire or combos with high DP moves that do not deal enough damage (Tokoyami and Cementoss), or do not bring enough of the "range" to cover her weakest aspects (Assault Kirishima, Assault Kendo, Strike Shigaraki).

Even some characters who are anti-synergies can work with Momo in the right circumstances, but are more than likely just going to make you regret picking Momo more than your opponents.

[native niche]

Just pack it up and play twisted with sns tuning

Support

😈

Her damage getting worse every patch

😢

[gusty flame]

whats sns

[native niche]

Stars and stripes

Idk the name of it

[onyx hare]

area reduction

[brave flint]

Agreed it is strong and fun asf at the same time

[brave flint]

Just saw on reddit a aizawa with star tuning pulling people into storm lmao

[tough slate]

Got shadowbanned for my twisted fortune lol

[queen fable]

"bichota" xddd

[tough slate]

Chill on the goat Karol G dude

[brave flint]

8144 in recovery

Having twisted fortune while also having star tuning is op

I legit if i get attacked i just run to the storm , they chase me they die since i have a advantage there with my tuning

Then i just heal my teammates while away from fighting

[gusty flame]

att nice

ur teamates were so lucky

[silent path]

what tunings do y'all use? i just got the kunoichi costume

[exotic cargo]

Blue outfit with Quick Factor or Embrittlement + Wall Runner

[native niche]

I use embrittle + acceleration to hit the beta for a guard break

[onyx hare]

https://klipy.com/gifs/one-piece-dab-me-up

[vestal dragon]

I have a very totally urgent question.

Does anyone know what causes the Beta visual to freak out and not stay in front of her during the dash?

[queen fable]

does it happen?

[vestal dragon]

I've just heard it's associated with mods.

[queen fable]

oh yeah, probably, just like ochako's car spinning sideways or nejire's aura getting stuck

[north ravine]

Well, with the new Tech Bakugo tuning, Momo's Area Control Yukata build can reach the equivalent of level 40 gamma attack power.

The only "not" gamma damage improvement is now just the Rapid Villain slot

I'm curious how powerful the PU Intensified explosions are going to be.

[north ravine]

~230 damage per explosion w/ Plus Ultra

[weary pond]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-flight-reacts-ftc-gif-10344871754903558430

[north ravine]

Yea, if you get level 9 you start hitting for 150s

Forcing them to take back a zone through cannon fire is basically a death sentence at high levels

[brave flint]

peak momo support

100% that deku had the best match in his life with my heals xD

[next notch]

actually feels good using her even in this meta

[coarse current]

Its it still worth increasing snd going for gamma? It does 140 damage with fixer

[north ravine]

The Yukata Fixer build is still viable, especially in ACB

[next notch]

Is twisted fortune worth it if it's the Lvl 10 slot?

Pretty sure lvl 11 is a 50% chance

[queen fable]

lv 11 is a 55% chance, lv 10 is 50%

to put it simply, the more u heal the more u will notice the difference

for example if u somehow got to heal 11 times in a row without losing ur heal, the 12th time (with lv 10 tunning) would be 3 times harder (luck-wise) to get the heal potion back than if u were using lv 11 tunning

the maths are:
(0,50)^12 -> lv 10 tunning (0,50 == 50% chance)
(0,55)^12 -> lv 11 tunning (0,55 == 55% chance)

[next notch]

https://tenor.com/view/shoto-todoroki-my-hero-academia-wiki-anime-think-gif-16338857

I seeeeeeeeee

I appreciate the breakdown

[silk spruce]

recommendations for Momo's outfits in Yukata?

I can buy any outfit and her fancy version is looking good but not sure

[queen fable]

Np hahahah

[north ravine]

On one hand, default Yukata is basically the most busted offense-orientated tuning build in the entire game and I'd be willing to bet on it. As of Tech Bakugo's release, the tech column can be pure Gamma Attack Power, allowing for you to have level ~40 attack power cannons, or 40% more damage.

Fancy is a great "Supporter" build, where you can slap on Twisted Fortune + Some other Support tuning like Revenge Support/Divine Protection and just become the reason your teammates just can't die. Decent enough normal tunings too I guess.

Dangerous is a good choice if you like Rapid special tuning for stuff like Wall Runner or Revenge Rapid, though I think the build suffers from a bit too much Strike normal tuning.

With the way Momo is played in today's meta, I think Fancy Yukata is the "safest" choice.

Though personally, I think this build would stand to be a "stronger" choice for a Supporter Momo build by virtue of better normal tuning combinations + Support/Strike Hero special tuning enabling Twisted Fortune + S&S special tuning for the lowered poison zone damage to let you hide outside zone and chug team drinks.

[weary pond]

Wall runner and nejire leap

[queen fable]

goated name?

[silk spruce]

welp, once I unlock her parallel world costume Ill switch my build but seems like I do well with this for now

[silk spruce]

mostly also because I've been getting better playing with Momo since I learned that her alpha is her main damage dealer

now Im sort of scary

[queen fable]

Best momo outfit (looks-wise, not tunning-wise)?
Casual: ⛳
Yukata: 🎆
Parallel World: 🛡️
Chinese outfit: 🀄
Kunoichi: 🈂️

[median fractal]

Silly gamers

[native niche]

Support mo the truth

[scenic flume]

finally got an outfit on her, the momo debut game went well

having a costume really boost your confidence and gameplay

[north ravine]

PUR costumes are very polarizing for characters since you not only get more normal tuning levels, but nearly all special tuning skills double in potency (or simply drastically improve) when leveled from 5 -> 6.

Strike Bakugo's Crushing KO Charge at level 5: 5% PU Meter. Level 6? 15% PU Meter.

Or in the case of Willpower, level 5 -> 6 changes the cooldown from 420 seconds -> 210 seconds.

Or every single revenge tuning doubling the duration when going from 5 -> 6

[naive crystal]

Do you Guys have some Tipps to better my Beginner Level Momo Gameplay?

[north ravine]

• 1st clip, I think you spent too much time/commitment setting up a 3rd cannon after the hard knockdown on Shigi.
• 6th clip, I would recommend firing one of your cannons at the wall instead of all of them at the floors when you're fighting around railings. This can allow you to hit people who may be on the opposite side of a rail (or any sloped or jagged terrain), and it would cover more area. The explosions are spherical, so you can cover a lot of area above where many flying and floating characters tend to retreat to under pressure.

(125 base damage + 175 DP cannons were the good old days)

The ceiling is also an especially powerful option to cover too

[queen fable]

If we don't get momo QSS next season imma crashout

worse if it is true about the third QSS for endeavor... HE DOES NOT NEED A THIRD!

😭

[north ravine]

The only thing Momo has going for her currently is going feral in Area Control.

[queen fable]

[north ravine]

For the duration of her PU, a Fixer PU Intensified Yukata Momo is the most dangerous existence in AC

[primal dust]

My #1 tip is always to use your alphas more sparingly

[next notch]

Real

[queen fable]

Not a single change on momo...

Sometimes feels that they forget about her existance at all

[junior lodge]

Can mono be good?

[weary pond]

Good ... good? good. I would say she slightly below good like ok. Shes a character that relies on tuning to be ok. In my opinion if a character relies on tuning they ain't good. They took away her main source of dmg which was gamma.. With all the nerfs and what not. And people still complain about it till this day like some crybabies.

Uhm I think if they revert her beta to like how it used to be and or alpha also. She would be good forshure

Her long range is ok but her mid range game and close up game needs more tuning for her to be good. Beta still has that trash hitbox. Her alpha is solid but if you know how it was back in the day man. The range and width of the projectile oh man ..

[queen fable]

we gotta make justice for her

she is a character based fully on luck due the bag and the lack of mobility

[steady stratus]

how it feels to play momo rn

[north ravine]

Momo's only truly viable move is gamma, with the rest of her kit being designed for a meta that no longer exists. The alpha drops combos far too easily on airborne HP targets, which really hampers her ability to do the damage needed when it matters most.

Her beta is one of the least consistent "barrier" moves, with the levels 1-3 variations having laughable coverage, and at higher levels, the geometry of the shields allows attacks to slip through.

Oh, and it still just self-destructs or simply vanishes quite often for no reason. It isn't a big deal for a move you put faith in for protection against the enemy attacks and only has 2 uses...

The charge of the move is also pretty basic too, with her movement being the same speed as dashing, and the ending covering the same distance as a roll. The only saving grace being that they buffed the time it takes to arm a shield to be usable.

The kit cannot be fixed by brute forcing buffs related to her damage or cooldowns; the moves have inherent flaws like Compress Alpha, a projectile that is lobbed and has way too many moving parts and variables for your main attack

[naive crystal]

Did anyone tried the Momo Knight Fixer Tuning Build with all Gamma, how much Damage does this Deal?

[north ravine]

Parallel World only has 2 costumes that could run Fixer, and they are not exactly fixer material

[naive crystal]

You know her Knight Outfit, @north ravine, the one they gave the Swimsuit?

[naive crystal]

The Dark Green one

[north ravine]

Villain style?

[naive crystal]

The one with the Embitterd Tuning Slot

[north ravine]

Despite the lack of strike, the Fixer column isn't unsalvageable. 3/5 slots can be set for gamma attack power, with 1 GP attack power. The other column though... Kinda lacking, too much Tech normal tuning hampers it.

If you were to set it up with as much damage possible for gamma... You'd get:

• Level 20 Gamma Attack Power (10 Gamma attack power enhanced by level 10 Fixer is a 2.0 multiplier)
• Level 9 GP Attack Power (One Fixer, One normal)
• A level 4 Gamma/HP/GP Attack upgrade
  So around ~24 gamma levels

[naive crystal]

That would be how much Damage per Gamma?

[north ravine]

I am not sure exactly how much it increases by, but each level increases the value by 0.01

110 (Lv9 gamma base damage) * 0.24 = 26.4 damage

So 136 damage give or take if each level is a 1% increase

[north ravine]

Personally, I don't see Fixer being worth it unless you're achieving at minimum a 30% increase in attack power

[queen fable]

Justice for momo

😭

QSS or crash out

[north ravine]

If Mirko is believed to be next, then it would be kinda weird to figure out who to pair with her for a new skill set

Hopefully she gets herself a skill set that can do something

[weary pond]

yes #justicformoma

[prisma iris]

do yall have tips for her? 😭 i wanna get better at using her

[queen fable]

• U can hide in a corner with ur shield and if someone is trying to break it to stop u from healing or whatever ur cannons do damage through them both if u are inside the corner or outside, also works for enemy momos

• Ur cannons, when landing 2 cannon balls always knockback enemies, so hyper armor moves can be stopped with them

• Momo's alpha can interrumpt most attacks that need the enemies to be close to u (those that doesnt have hyper armor). The problem is that, dont ask me why, even if being a somewhat ranged move, it has travel time and most people forget it is a ranged move because it is slow as heck even for that short range.

Sum up, alpha has range but it is slow when reaching the enemy and can stall, dont use it if a rapid deku is spamming melees, they have the same speed and u could lose easily that matchup, but u can put a cannon on a building entrance and spam alpha to secure a shot of ur cannons

• Dont fight outside if u are in a sweaty lobby since sadly u cant attack flying enemies and u have no mobility. U are the character that is the most luck based in game because of the storm, map and even ur special action that just guarantees a revive card when someone is dead

[prisma iris]

Thank you for the tips! I didn't know revive card was guaranteed after someone dies

[silk spruce]

I’m not as experienced playing Momo, but alpha really is your main damage dealer and get out of jail free card in the sense it can crowd control in closed spaces. If you can punish anyone with your alpha do it, if they have armor, play it safe and shield rush them, but honestly I’d try to get that alpha damage

Also, always be intentional with where you aim your cannons. Assess the situation you’re in and be aware of your surroundings, the enter/exits, etc. If an enemy is inside where you are, aim your cannons at both exits to keep them in and others out. (You can also block them in with shields at the exits, but that can put you at risk.) Being able to predict enemies will also guide where you aim your cannons.

[silk spruce]

If one ally is dead, use your special action to get a revive card, but don’t use it for them. Instead, see if you can get them naturally so you have it as a back-up. I say this because you don’t want to revive your ally just for them or someone else to drop dead right after and now you’re out of a special action for revives and items.

That tip may be controversial but its what makes sense to me. A general tip really would be to try to take a break from battle to regroup and get items if you or someone else dies. (Of course, everything said is situational so use your intuition.)

[prisma iris]

Tysmm! the one thing i really am struggling with is when i need to just run and there are no building to hide in so i cant set up cannons to block exits and stuff so i lowk just panic and try to hit the with shield so they can back off. Also I don't really know what i should level up first but i prioritize getting beta maxed first before leveling alpha then gamma

[primal dust]

As a Momo main myself, my number one tip is to never waste your alphas, try incorporating melee combos in between to start a chain, for those who are advanced, beta combos are true as well

In closed areas, incorporate your alphas with a gamma, the stunlock on an alpha strike lasts long enough for a cannon to explode and deal more damage

[queen fable]

beta 4, gamma 4, alpha 4 ---> gamma 9 and between alpha or beta's depends if u want to start more combos or secure breaking shield (or maybe u want ur cover to be better)

i would say gamma always first to 9 cuz it is ur main attack method

[queen fable]

There's something that bothers me, the fact that when u get a balanced match, without broken characters, with good teammates, etc... U actually enjoy the matches. Now just remains that the devs actually do listen to us, cuz yes, we got 10x times the amount of tickets and characters we would had get last year and im grateful for that, but still, hackers are a thing, exploiters are a thing, modders that uses them to get advantages (even if not actually hacking, maybe the FOV or some banners that cover ur screen being moved aside) are a thing. This is probably one of the games with more potential anime-wise and they get to fail with such a good base

[north ravine]

Unfortunately, the devs can't be bothered to try.

When their laziness is so blatant that the frontmost news notification upon login is literally placeholder text after everything else... Can you really say they're putting their best foot forward?

[prisma iris]

for realll they're getting lazier and lazier

[weary pond]

Can't wait until it starts to fester with character names. Next realease is "Charcter_text_title_name_1_B526467_ "

Omg I'm so hype guys for character 1B526467 !

[silk spruce]

In that case there’s really nothing you can do, especially if they’re a flying type. If you’re outside with no way of seeking shelter you’re best bet is to fight alongside your allies. Enemies will likely leave a momo player alone once they realize she’s in her domain so try to utilize that to the fullest.

As to what to level up first it depends on how you want to play really. I personally upgrade my alpha first then beta and gamma since my build revolves around her alpha.

if you’re one who takes advantage of closed spaces you should upgrade beta then gamma

If you see yourself being outside with a lack of closed spaces I’d say alpha and beta

[silk spruce]

@prisma iris and yeah this is a good tip

my basic combo with Momo is alpha then full on melee. It does about the same damage as if using full alpha I believe so definitely do that instead

A tip to combo alpha and gamma is place one down once you hard knockdown an enemy and stun them with your alpha. They will almost always wake-up earlier to not get hit by the cannons so trying to stun them with an alpha should guarantee you land something lmao

[north ravine]

Momo's full melee combo is kinda bad on slopes, so it may just be better to simply throw 2 alphas and use a grounded air melee if you're in that kind of situation.

[naive crystal]

Up or down Slope?

[north ravine]

Yes.

It sucks both ways, since that final hammer throw is always thrown in a straight line (and does not "track" the enemy).

[naive crystal]

Does the Nagant Melee Track?

[north ravine]

Nagant's grounded melee combo does not "track" on that final finisher shot. It is prone to whiffing if the enemy doesn't follow the trajectory of the launch caused from the 2nd hit of her melee. In a sense, it is actually similar to Momo's melee combo failing if it's happening on sloped terrain

The air melee attack does have some sense of tracking, since it does alter her movement path noticeably to land the attack if aim assist is locking on

In some cases, it can cause her to gain some minor vertical height to catch its target

[queen fable]

and unsurprisingly another season without QSS

[median fractal]

Gonna get the Dabi and Mount lady outfits and call it a day

Yo I got Mirko early. Don’t mind the other guys

[exotic cargo]

Hi Miku

[last condor]

My aim is so good

😹

🥸

[deft zephyr]

I just want Jiro…

[last condor]

Shigaraki hitbox on point

….

[north ravine]

Nah, Momo's beta shield has always been a terrible "protective" hitbox.

[north ravine]

It's so bad at doing its job that we have techs around the shield not working.

For example, you can set up a cannon next to your set shield to cause explosions that hit on both sides of the shield.

You can only trust it to protect against projectiles firing directly into it. Any sort of AOEs or physical attacks and you're going to be let down.

[weary pond]

🫲 6 0 7 🫱

[next notch]

https://tenor.com/view/bosnov-67-bosnov-67-67-meme-gif-16727368109953357722

[last condor]

And its so huuge, i even rolled 2 times

[last condor]

It even nullifies mtladys giant stomp but not shigaraki

[naive crystal]

Does Momo have a Double Hero Strike Tuning Outfit?

[north ravine]

She has a double special tuning for Rapid (Parallel World default), Assault (Fancy Quipao), and Support (Fancy Yukata). No double Tech or Strikes.

[naive crystal]

So we cannot Profit from Aizawa and Star...

[north ravine]

I mean... The main important one is Star's. You still got Parallel Fancy for Support/Strike for something as vile as Twisted Fortune + Area Reduction

[queen fable]

I mean, it is ok if it aplies to the basic alfa+melee+beta, but other than that nothing really much change i guess

[north ravine]

I think this may just be a case of them attempting to fix that bug where a character doesn't enter knock down state after receiving a hit

[silk spruce]

electrification on Momo?

thinking about running her festival yukuta villain style outfit

that or her heat style for an alpha build

[primal dust]

Personally I don't prefer it, but its probably the best option for a hero tech slot

[silk spruce]

so then my best bet would be this outfit and just run quirk factor release and quick reload

I guess if I was a camper Momo electrification and quirk release would be good for my cannons

but imo its a boring way to play her

I wanna be in the action

[north ravine]

You do not want to be running Electrification on Momo

Her moves have a very high DP already, and it doesn't really synergize with her moves.

Beta is already an instant hard knockdown, and setting up a cannon will likely take too long (and I'd assume that with each doing 250 DP + the Matryshokas doing 50) and end the combo too soon. I think Electrification is like 200 DP

You could make an argument for Special attack reload boost or Fixer based on how reliable your ability to down people is.

And in the case of pure gamma attack power, this costume is the best.

I don't think there's any other costume in the game that supports a full Fixer column of a specific attack power, and then the other column also allows for you to equip nearly all general HP/GP attack powers on top of that.

[onyx hare]

278 is purely absurd

[north ravine]

Would you like to see the limits?

Or rather, going even further beyond?

[onyx hare]

Sure, sounds interesting to say the least. I've just been using this whenever I play momo since I don't usually spam cannons

[north ravine]

Once you get reliant on using cannons in combos and claiming an area as your own, it's just too good to pass up

[onyx hare]

jeez, js give up the point when a momo pops PU, straight warzone

[north ravine]

That's the full Fixer build + PU Intensified experience

1 cannonball is a guard break and a matryoshka hits like a no tuning cannonball.

Outside of Area Control where PU meter is not guaranteed to fill up once a match, you can use any other Strike Hero special tuning.

[onyx hare]

I've only got the accel build for her rn, though I've got two other PUR's I could make builds on if I get the luxury of a lot of materials

[north ravine]

If you have Support Nejire and Star and Stripes, you could set up a Twisted Fortune + Area Reduction build on Parallel World Fancy. Yukata has the default (the build I used in those clips), and the Yukata dangerous which I think you'd like a lot since it's a Rapid/Strike Hero special tuning.

[onyx hare]

My other two are Quipao and Festival Yukata, her PUR's have just been annoyingly attracted to me like magnets recently and I don't know why.

[weary pond]

What do yall think of bunnyhop on momo?

[north ravine]

I think it's probably the equivalent of Space Hop on Momo. It isn't solving her mobility problems, and I would assume it's worse than Wall Runner since Momo wouldn't have a way to ascend to the top of the wall she's wall jumping

[last condor]

If you go for the meele alpha beta combos

Her yellow dress with embrittlement does the highest damge

More than the fixer one. Its cool

[north ravine]

Melee combos are a pretty decent play style, but it isn't always an option given how... Mobile the meta is.

[hot nest]

is anyone aware of how the double beta is possible? ive only pulled it off a handful of times, and id like to know how it works

i can provide a visual example if needed😶‍🌫️

[exotic cargo]

Like a double hit beta?

[hot nest]

yes, 99% of the time beta is a hardknock, but ive been able to hit two betas very rarely

im unsure how exactly, if its a bug or a situation where the receiving end recovers immediately, or something else

but i wanted to ask about it, since its eluded me for months atp😭

[exotic cargo]

Its a VERY situational thing to happen where beta knocks them into a wall and they just straight up don't tech resulting in a 2nd beta hit, this happens more often in small closed spaces

[hot nest]

ooohhh okay, this makes more sense

thank you!!

[random moth]

Nah I'd violate the rules #game-moments message

[queen fable]

just saying, bunny hop is a free out of jail card

it is so satisfying to use

[feral mist]

Uh I got a question, why does Kendo and Kirishima's sheild block Strike Shigi's beta but Momo's doesn't?

[cobalt solar]

i dont think kendos shield blocks it

it makes the sound effect because it hurts the shield and kendo

[queen fable]

how sad people are using momo only because she can use nejire's luck tunning...

i mean, yeah she is being used, but only because of that tunning, some people don't even bother try to play her. I won't blame them since meta is disgusting, and sometimes u want to win

[cosmic bobcat]

yea but like u said u def cant blame them, momo is a character u need to rlly put time in and most importantly read situations and have good intution which most ppl just dont want to use

Especially when many of the cast characters can do what she can witjout thinking as hard or having as good reaction time

[queen fable]

nothing to do with the comment so far, i got confused because i thought i wrote on ochako's discussion because of u hahahah

But yea, she needs something maybe a beta rework or whatever, or a QSS, when i get her QSS im gonna be happy as heck

I also need to get ochako's ninja skin for my acc, i gotta save tickets because nejire isn't appearing in my summons 🥀

[silk spruce]

I had this argument before in the main chat and its to the point where people say that’s all Momo is good for

[queen fable]

momo is a good character overall, but since u have instant melee character with armor, aimbot, flying, etc... that's not good, that's broken

and she is the only character than her main support tech is based on luck (the bag) except for when u have a dead team8, but u still have to get the card and normal revives character are way better

[silk spruce]

shes like an old-timer who can still put up a fight if you give her a chance

I only have her and her costumes on PC thoufh and not PS5 so its hard to try and use her how I want to without computer tweaking out

[queen fable]

there are mods to lower the quality of the game to make it run smoother

like changing ur graphic settings but optimized

[silk spruce]

Ima look into that, hopefully it helps

[feral mist]

I didn't take dmg when I tried it in training