pc-gaming

[bronze dust]

I'm trying to download Ultimate Sheep Raccoon but it says unavailable. I have Game Pass Ultimate, just updated my nvidia, and an in intel i9 thingy. Why is it unavailable? I would post a picture but can't.

https://www.microsoft.com/store/productId/9P1H8K2V0NNP

says playable on pc

nvm its not out yet 💀

[mint lily]

Why would you use FG with a 5090

[devout remnant]

To see how much FPS it would produce

[mint lily]

AHH

Okay good don't play with it on normally

[devout remnant]

Why not 😄

[mint lily]

Because of latency

You only get inputs in on real frames

So you have 3 frames of 0 input

• you don't have a 1000hz monitor

[devout remnant]

I don’t notice anything wrong in single player games.

[devout remnant]

480Hz, close enough 😝

[mint lily]

0 point in 900fps in real games especially when you can't take advantage of it

[mint lily]

1440 or 1080

That better be 1440 or you are bottlenecking your system

[devout remnant]

1440

Latency not always an issue though

[mint lily]

Is it standard 1440 or is it ultrawide

[devout remnant]

24ms native,
27ms FG x4

[mint lily]

A shooter is a terrible example of that

[devout remnant]

Standard

[mint lily]

3ms is a lot more than you'd expect in a shooter like doom

And you'll get 420 fps by itself in doom with a 5090

Don't use FG unless you NEED too

Same for dlss you have a $3k GPU

Don't use stuff like that unless you need too you can 100% run it

[devout remnant]

I played God of War with Quality FG and it looked, played amazing!

[mint lily]

You mean quality upscaling

Why the hell would you upscale 1440p with a 5090

You have a 5090 not a ps5

[devout remnant]

Because lower temps

[mint lily]

There is no 5090 that has cooling issues unless you messed with it

[devout remnant]

If I can’t notice the difference, I’ll take the system chilling on minimal use

[mint lily]

You're telling me

You paid $3k for a gpu but you're using it like a 5080

It won't break

Use it to it's full potential

[devout remnant]

I’m using it how I prefer to use it,

And no, I want to keep utilisation as low as possible

[mint lily]

This stuff makes me so mad man use it like it's a flagship you do not need dlss at 1440p

[devout remnant]

I need it

[mint lily]

Wth do you want to keep temps low for

100% utilization on a 5090 is not happening at 1440p 420hz

[devout remnant]

So my room isn’t an oven, system is quiet and the satisfaction that the game is maxed out and GPU is at like 29% usage 😄

[mint lily]

Native 1440p is not hard to run on a 4070 let alone a 5090 which is the only native 4k card

Like man

[devout remnant]

Didn’t notice a difference tbh and I notice differences

[mint lily]

It's a native 4k card, just turn off dlss and it's going to look so much better

[mint lily]

You don't, games look SO much better without dlss and FG bro 😭

Use it like a 5090 not a 1080ti

You will NOT max it out I promise you

[devout remnant]

I mean no one saw my in game screenshots and went “hmm, that’s FG” 😄

[mint lily]

You don't notice FG on screenshots unless you're moving or have something in the background moving

You need a video to capture FG it's a movement problem with FG

[devout remnant]

I promise you - I was moving for 60 hours in game - it looked incredible

[mint lily]

It'll look better on your $3k gpu if you stop holding it back

[mint lily]

It's a NATIVE 4k card

[mint lily]

I see RT artifacting

[devout remnant]

Where

[mint lily]

Turn FG off

In the floor reflections??

Have you never played with FG off before????

Have you never experienced native rendering

This is making me question so much dude

[devout remnant]

I played games before FG existed, ofc 😄

[mint lily]

That RT looks so bad dude

[devout remnant]

Looks good to me 😝

[mint lily]

You're at 1440

Seriously the 5090 can run 4k native

[devout remnant]

Any issues here?

[mint lily]

I see FG artifacting in the background

You're at 1440 at most FG 2x is ALL you need

You do not need more than 420 FPS

(If it's AI frames)

AI frames do not lower latency, only real frames do

There's no point when it makes your games look worse

[devout remnant]

Here?

[mint lily]

Yes

[devout remnant]

Come on bro 😭

[mint lily]

I notice it because I play native

You should too if you're at 1440

[devout remnant]

I gave up the native life

[mint lily]

WHY????

YOU HAVE A $3k GPU 😭

Nothing AI based can beat native if you can run your monitors specs native

Do it

[devout remnant]

Doesn’t matter in SP games, for MP I’ll run native

[mint lily]

For SP I'd argue differently

At least turn FG doen to 2x and turn DLSS off

[devout remnant]

Look at this

😍

[mint lily]

You still won't use half of your GPU

[mint lily]

It looks good but I see AI artifacting

Play native 1440 you will never go back

Seriously man

[devout remnant]

I’ve been native 1440p since 2006

When I had my old Dell monitor

16:10 too

[mint lily]

1440p in 2006 was not

[devout remnant]

Was not what

[mint lily]

Why would you play 1440p in 2006

[devout remnant]

Because I could

This is also AI

[mint lily]

Okay so

[devout remnant]

Now TLOU2 got DLSS4 but haven’t tried it yet

[mint lily]

You're lying cause 1440p wasn't widely availible until 2010 and no GPU could run 1440p in 2006 that well if at all

[mint lily]

I'm gonna be honest with you

That looks terrible

God of war looked good I'll give you credit you had to be paying attention

But that looks like it's 720p with TAA

Upscaled to 1440

[devout remnant]

That’s my old PC - that there is a 30” Dell UltraSharp Monitor that is 1440p

It might have been 2007 but it was definitely 06/07,
I had 2x 8800 GTX cards

[mint lily]

What gpu

[devout remnant]

I then upgraded to a 295 GTX not long after

[mint lily]

256 cuda cores isn't running 1440p unless the color depth is 4 bit

[devout remnant]

🤦‍♂️

I was doing 1440p 60fps in everything but Crysis at the time.

[mint lily]

Like what

[devout remnant]

Like whatever was out at that time

[mint lily]

8800GTX has 128 CUDA cores

[devout remnant]

GTA,
Gears of War,
Oblivion,
Etc

[mint lily]

And you had under 900mb of usable memory because each card needed a copy of each texture

[devout remnant]

I don’t think you realise it was a monster and the best GPU you can buy at that time.

[mint lily]

That monitor looks like it's 1080p

[devout remnant]

I had 2 of them.

[mint lily]

Doesn't matter

Each card needs to store a copy of a texture to work

[devout remnant]

It’s 30” if it was 1080p the windows wouldn’t look like that.

[mint lily]

So you had under 900mb of usable vram

[mint lily]

Yes it would

[devout remnant]

No it wouldn’t.

The icons would be huge.

[mint lily]

Most monitors at the time were 720 / 1080

So sure it would not to mention you can make it smaller

[devout remnant]

Yeah and I paid £2,500 for the monitor alone

It was a pro monitor.

[mint lily]

OH MY GOD WHAT

Okay nvm I believe you

What tech is that monitor using

Micro LED?

[devout remnant]

Are you crazy

It’s 2006/2007 😄

[mint lily]

Eh fair

But seriously

Stop using AI to enhance your games play them native it's so much better esp when your pc is fully capable of it

[devout remnant]

No

I only ever use full power on Benchmarks

And Multiplayer

[mint lily]

Your PC won't break man

[devout remnant]

If a game has DLSS4 & FG - I’ll be using it in SP

[mint lily]

Did you custom build your pc at least

[devout remnant]

Custom Ordered

[mint lily]

Is it hard lined

[devout remnant]

Wdym?

[mint lily]

Is it hard line water cooled

[devout remnant]

No this time

This is only till next gen, then I may Custom Cool again.

[errant sorrel]

I might get a new PC start of next year if our finances allow us 😄

And depending on how Battlefield runs, the alpha was ok but not good enough for me performance-wise

[devout remnant]

I’m going to do a fresh build for E-Day

I want to be running the game on the best hardware

[errant sorrel]

Should probably be ok, currently on 3080ti and i9-12900k but the performance was kinda crappy, 1440p all low and i was ''only'' getting 60-100fps with a lot of drops

Was a pre-alpha so I guess itll be improved

[devout remnant]

Should still be decent

[errant sorrel]

Id like 120 minimum, think thats doable

[devout remnant]

Plus with optimised drivers

[errant sorrel]

If not maybe ill just upgrade a few parts

Id like to postpone a new PC a bit given that I got this one in january 2022

[devout remnant]

I’m sure DDR6 RAM will be due end of this year or next year too

[errant sorrel]

Ideally id like to wait for the nvidia 6000 series to upgrade

[young owl]

anyopne else getting error messages while trying to use pc games

[dusky wave]

Nope

[patent hound]

That’s a very broad question lol

[dusky wave]

Steam games epic games etc...

[young owl]

considering im posting this on the xbox server i think that narrows it down heavily

[limber knoll]

Hi, I have a potato laptop (RX580 4Gb, R7 1700, 32Gb RAM) I played Gears 5 when it released on PC (at the time it was non official copy, but since then I play on XSX) and it runned very well at 1080p, high presets (pretty steady 60fps) but when I recently installed the game through PC Game Pass it seems that the game doesn't run that well on the same PC, it's like barely hits 60fps and the 1% is hitting low 40s and bellow even on medium or low!! Is it some Denuvo thing hampering the performance? Is there is any solution for that?!

[exotic jacinth]

You could try running the in-game benchmark to see where the bottleneck is and then make some changes to the game settings

[vital token]

Oh hell na

Did xbox switch sides or sm

[icy orbit]

what do you mean gng

[mint lily]

Yes

10k USD for a gaming GPU

[dusky wave]

especially how much gpus cost rn over msrp like at least 200 to 300 min

[mint lily]

Over msrp??

10k is the MSRP of the RTX 6000 pro

We HAVE a 6th gen card, it's just

So expensive

[icy orbit]

its not 6th gen though

itd be 60 series if anything, which we already have

we've had 6000 for ages

[errant sorrel]

🙄

[devout remnant]

GPUs here have gone back down

No longer above RRP

[devout remnant]

That’s not a “6th Gen Card”

[short lily]

bro its 720 p

[devout remnant]

Bro it’s actually 1600p

It’s 16:10

2560x1600

https://harddiskdirect.co.uk/3007wfpt-dell-ultrasharp-30-inch-widescreen-2560-x-1600-at-60hz-lcd-flat-panel-monitor.html?srsltid=AfmBOorV9FiZtH9iY6VEEF28wCQ8feIeihCGoguerydbFG6eepa8IA-Mmgc&gQT=2

[smoky flame]

thing is the RTX PRO 6000 Blackwell isn’t a gaming GPU. Its workstation, hence the higher cost. $10,000 vs $2000 for around a 15% increase in performance would be really silly

[mint lily]

Might as well be considering the 2nd mortgage

[icy orbit]

well, no

its not intended to be purchased by home users

its a business card

[dusky wave]

like fo NASA and the like?

[icy orbit]

whoever needs it really

but yeah sure nasa could easily afford one

[icy orbit]

decided to use grip tape and its lucky i did 😊

cant really tell in that photo but its gone dark pink from my hair lol

[devout remnant]

It’s not always even that much, it’s game dependent so could be a few percent which is made up by the overclock anyway

[arctic breach]

is there a thing such as a shadowban from gamebar lfg? all seems to work except the post button

[idle gull]

can someone tell me why the xbox app downloads stuff so slow

[stoic viper]

[stoic viper]

Intel decides to replace the motherboard with a new one in the next generation of intel processors

[smoky flame]

huh?

[stoic viper]

this means that to buy a processor from Intel you need to buy motherboards and new cooling (it's not necessary about cooling, but it's better to change it)

[stoic viper]

Intel to Switch to New LGA Socket

[smoky flame]

don't think I've seen anything official about it but I am aware of a new socket with their next CPUs being expected (again!)

[stoic viper]

Well, if I'm not joking, I haven't heard of anyone buying an Intel Core Ultra 2nd generation for a PC.

[stoic viper]

because of this I think that the 3rd generation ultra for PC will be a loss for Intel

[stoic viper]

on laptops of course people have to buy ultra processors

[smoky flame]

people have bought it but I don't think the general reception of the Intel Core Ultra 200 series has been on the good side. I've seen some deals in some regions that would suggest retailers are getting a bit desperate to get rid of stock and are discounting them quite heavily while bundled with some other components lol

[stoic viper]

2nd generation ultra if I'm not mistaken loses in gaming power to 14th generation intel i

[smoky flame]

biggest problems I think Intel has with those CPUs is the lack of hyperthreading. Their first CPU in something like 13 generations I think not to include it and that can hurt performance under certain conditions. E cores are still present so it is at max an 8P+16E core configuration with a maximum of 24 cores while the older 14th gen supported hyperthreading giving a total of 8/16P+16E cores

those extra hyperthreaded cores on the older 14th gen CPUs is what allows it to either beat or at worst match the Core 200 series under certain conditions

[stoic viper]

I currently have a 13th Gen Intel Core 1335U energy efficient laptop.In terms of power and energy efficiency, it is worse than its competitor on Ryzen U

Intel literally only has gaming laptops.In other respects it is inferior to Amd

[smoky flame]

yeah, AMD have kind of become something of an efficiency monster with their CPUs. Their desktop CPUs are very efficient too

[stoic viper]

but to be honest, m processors are better than them in everything, but they don't work on Windows.

[stoic viper]

well yes extreme processors are slightly modified u ryzen

[smoky flame]

I think there is a lot more to them than that. Ryzen U processors might be a generation behind their desktop counterparts or I seem to remember something of Ryzen being a generation behind. I might be thinking of the Ryzen G lineup

[stoic viper]

I learned about this from an Asus Rog Ally ad from a sold YouTuber who works with Asus

[icy orbit]

i dont think their goal was to make them do better in gaming though

[stoic viper]

and ryzen u doesn't lose much power at 20 watts consumption

[icy orbit]

theyre incredibly efficient in AI tasks and junk

[stoic viper]

You are right. Their goal is to make the processor work well at work.

[icy orbit]

👍

[stoic viper]

but for us, as an ordinary user, there is no particular difference between Ryzen 3dx and Intel Core Ultra

at work a better video card is more important

[icy orbit]

if ordinary user just means a gamer then no not really just pick whatever decent cpu there is at a good price

[stoic viper]

I'm talking about work at work

[icy orbit]

whether its amds 9xxx or intels 14xxx or 2xx or whatever

if it works it works just play games 😊

[stoic viper]

it's just that intel is focusing on work at work and not on games in intel core ultra it's stupid

Well of course there are server processors but Intel Core Ultra is not a processor for servers

Sorry for the aggression, I just love Intel, I am offended by what Intel does

[dusky wave]

Im currently have 1 monitor. If i upgrade to a dual monitor setup 1 for game and other for everything else will gpu have a worse perf than a single monitor

[icy orbit]

no

[cinder veldt]

the duailty between Amd and Intel
AMD keeping it efficient while Intel requires 400 watts

[icy orbit]

where does intel require 400w

[cinder veldt]

14900KS

[icy orbit]

doing what

[cinder veldt]

(under full load :^))

[cinder veldt]

In der8auers run on cinebench it ran at 400 watts

[icy orbit]

yes, a niche CPU thats intentionally designed to run with a high power draw draws a lot of power when you run it in specialised scenarios

using that to claim "intel requires 400w" is a bit silly thoughh

not a single consumer cpu draws anywhere close to 400w in most ordinary use cases

especially if all youre doing is gaming where none even top 100w

[cinder veldt]

userbenchmark post ^

[icy orbit]

how would that be a userbenchmark post when theyre known to be hilariously biased towards intel

actually yeah i see it nvm

its not like its wrong though, thats exactly the case. no intel cpus are drawing remotely close to 400w if youre gaming. it makes no sense to use a niche scenario to try to push the message that "intel requires 400w"

its not like a 14100f is gonna need 400w.

[cinder veldt]

also in the end it particularly didnt matter if it used 400 or 100 watts

a bunch of 13th and 14th gens are dead because of a microcode issue that took months to fix, causing even more irreparable damage

[icy orbit]

which was largely an issue with the board partners too, not solely intels fault

[cinder veldt]

And on top of that intels general handling of the situation, not accepting RMA's Intel was continuously shooting their foot

[icy orbit]

intel accepts all RMAs right now 😛

[cinder veldt]

right now yeah but when it actually mattered they dragged their feet

on top of that the new gen of intel is barely even talked about. Only time i hear it is through sponsors of people giving away pre-builts (and the MSI claw lol) and as far as im aware they're not too great for gaming because of how the intel cores are designed (although i hear its productivity performance is good)

[icy orbit]

thinking the new gen is barely talked about is just observational bias

its ridiculously good at what its intended for, which isnt gaming

the 285K is very efficient in AI workloads, simulations such as NAMD, and rendering + encoding 😛

most users have no reason to care about any of these things which is why in the gaming hardware communities the newest gen isnt brought up too much outside of "ok that was a flop"

[devout remnant]

It was a flop for gaming when the old one beats it 😄

[icy orbit]

yeah i already covered this though

as far as im aware it was never a goal to have the newest ones perform better than the previous ones in gaming

they outperform the previous 14/13th by a lot in AI tasks and other shenanigans though

[devout remnant]

I mean, you would hope the new ones outperforms the old ones

[icy orbit]

i mean sure you can hope that with anything really but i wouldnt exactly go online and start saying its a useless series when it was never intended to be better in gaming

[devout remnant]

It was never intended to be better at gaming? - come on now - you can’t say a “new processor” that’s out is supposed to be and completely fine to be worse than the previous 😄

No where that I recall Intel saying anything of the sort

Nor did I see any reviewer mention this

[icy orbit]

its not worse than the previous. it completely destroys the previous. it just so happens to be a bit worse at gaming.

for what it actually matters in the new intel cpus are amazing

[devout remnant]

Not entirely true

[devout remnant]

Saying gaming isn’t irrelevant is a big understatement

[icy orbit]

what is it then? seems pretty true to me.

[icy orbit]

i think its a fair judgement considering the current price point of the CPUs and the clear performance differences in business orientated workloads such as simulations and machine learning
its not like gaming is irrelevant but i have no idea why one is supposed to expect them to continue to beat previous gens in gaming whilst also excelling in other areas of use

if you have a 285K i think its pretty fair to assume that theres a decent liklihood its business funded or at least partially funded, and considering it still provides pretty good gaming performance (somewhere around the 14600K) and top notch performance in other areas... it seems pretty good.🤷‍♂️

its not like the difference between the 14900K and the 285K is hundreds of frames

youre paying a minor trade off in gaming performance for a significant boost in other areas

LGA1851 is also pretty silly for RAM OC too, if that matters at all whatsoever.

every single 6000 MHz entry on HWBot is on the 1851 platform and so is a significant portion of the higher 5000 MHz entries

all of this heavily strayed from my original point though

all i wanted to get across was "intel requires 400w" is basically just bait. using niche situations to preach that "intel" (not even a specific SKU, just intel.) needs 400w is quite silly.

[icy orbit]

https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/memory_frequency/submissions/5844231

[devout remnant]

https://youtu.be/zY7_Pb9URgg?si=UlBOhFdAizQTSkdO

[devout remnant]

Go watch the productivity section and point out the massive differences / increases.

Plus, with the gaming one, it’s against the 7800X3D - not the 9800X3D.

https://youtu.be/XXLY8kEdR1c?si=91dSBA6jnTF_cY2i

https://youtu.be/3n537Z7pJug?si=ZXE_ncC6KhH6INST

[icy orbit]

im fully aware its against the 7800x3d

its not like the 9800x3d is much better

[icy orbit]

am i supposed to take this seriously

this is LTT? its an entertainment channel?

[devout remnant]

Next 2?

[icy orbit]

they all show everything ive said

theyre worse in gaming

[devout remnant]

Yeah 35% is nothing

[icy orbit]

seems totally fine to me? some games have larger differences than other, depending on the testing suite you can find larger or smaller differences. TPU shows a smaller difference, at about 15% @ 1080p and Techspot shows like 20% or something
in the end it depends on what games are being played but overall the 285K is a worse CPU in gaming 😛

i think its a bit silly that both of us are getting so hung up on the 285K/Core Ultra in gaming though. we both know its worse.

LGA1851 has made advancements in other areas and the tradeoff was gaming 😛

all in all, "intel requires 400w" isnt true.

[devout remnant]

If you watched the HU video

It also lost on all the productivity tests against the 9950X3D.

[icy orbit]

Hardware Unboxed doesnt talk about any of the productivity points i ever cared about though? if it did, i would have mentioned them

i specifically mentioned machine learning and scientific simulations

[devout remnant]

It also lost in every productivity tests here

https://youtu.be/QhGsQvDaEPo?si=AGdP17lCAYGXlzJl

[icy orbit]

yeah... the exact same tests...

[latent gate]

I'd never use a 285K

for any productivity task

might as well just use an ipad at that point

[icy orbit]

these arent machine learning or simulations such as NAMD though

[latent gate]

arguably you'll get better performance

ML is a GPU-based task

[icy orbit]

im aware

[latent gate]

simulations can be either

very vague and nondescript

[icy orbit]

what im saying is still right though, theyre faster.

[latent gate]

on what?

[icy orbit]

quite a bit faster

[latent gate]

the 285K is one of the slowest performance CPU's in the current market, especially for cost

you're genuinely better off buying a Xeon

[icy orbit]

NAMD chemistry simulations??

why else would i mention NAMD three times

[latent gate]

I've heard nothing but the opposite

it was the fastest last year sure. but not by much

[icy orbit]

where have you heard that the 285K is slower in medical/science research simulations compared to a 14900K or a 9950X

[latent gate]

It's slower in genome, it's almost neck and neck with the 265 in COMSOL

NAMD is the only one where it had a slight edge over the 265

and that's almost a year ago. not factoring current CPU

you're genuinely better off getting a 265 if you're doing medical

[devout remnant]

It’s the entire consensus on both sides of gaming & productivity that the Intel 285K has been a disappointment.

[latent gate]

that's what all of the labs here equip with if they use distribution chips that aren't server-grade

[icy orbit]

the 265 is also on core ultra which is ultimately my point 😊
but my original point which is the only one i really cared about until i dragged myself into this was that "intel needs 400w" is bait

[latent gate]

core ultra is irrelevant

it's a product naming

the chips themselves are very different

[icy orbit]

i dont fancy typing out LGA1851 every single time i want to talk about them

[latent gate]

for how much more expensive the 285k is

it's pathetically more performant if it even is in those instances

[icy orbit]

#pc-gaming message
😊 im heading off

[latent gate]

Core 7 outperforming Core 9 on medical grade calculations is

not great

double the cost for fractional improvements in only one test

in no way is that a good purchasing or logical decision

especially for 4 less cores and 4 less threads

like you could make an argument to actually support your case, but you'd have to actually make good points for that to work

NAMD just isn't it

"the intel core 2 duo is just leagues ahead of the i9 family in power draw" is a similar take

but it's an equally illogical one

if someone actually cared about sim performance and nothing else, when looking in the 500+ price range, they're just go with a xeon and virtualize multiple environments to perform simultaneous calculations

or just run single calculations faster using the whole cpu

and for what it's worth.

AMD EPYC is the cpu used in that field

[devout remnant]

Well said

I’m also excited for Sunday

Can’t wait to see some games at the showcase!

[stoic viper]

some people think that I'm wrong when I say that the 2nd generation of ultra processors are bad.
First I wanted to explain to you what is more important in the work of an ordinary person.
The video card is always more important than the CPU in normal work. honestly there is no particular difference in working with ryzen x3d with ultra 2nd generation because you work more importantly the video card and not the CPU
Ultra is not a server cpu and not a half server cpu.Ultra is a processor for ordinary people

Intel justifies the weak performance of its processors by saying that they are supposedly designed for work, not for gaming.

if I have AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D then nothing will stop me from doing animation, video editing, 3D modeling with pleasure and then further

because in normal work on a PC the video card is more important than the CPU

only in games the cpu is as important as the video card.Of course there are exceptions, for example server processors, but Intel Ultra 2nd generation are not one of them

[cinder veldt]

kek

[smoky flame]

9060 XT released today and seems pricing wasn't too far off, though I wonder if that is only temporary with an increase to follow after about a week of sales or something

[stoic viper]

I don't know, I'm not really a fan of radeons

RTX 5060 Ti Looks More Powerful Than RX 9060 XT

but it seems like the RX 9060 XT is not more expensive than the RTX 5060?

[smoky flame]

I didn't even think to check but will now. One moment

9060 XT 16GB seem to start at £314.99 and go up to £399.95 while the 5060 Ti starts from £389.99 and goes up to £499.99. Not sure how both models compare to each other in head to heads but considering it was close between the 5070 Ti and 9070 XT I would think it will be similar here too

Pricing was from Overclockers UK btw

[stoic viper]

thanks.

[mint lily]

16gb is

5060ti is better

But not by much

[icy orbit]

no one ever said it was a thing about not being able to do so
its just some perform better than others

[mint lily]

You're wrong

You just don't do CPU heavy work

Because you don't see or do work that requires a fast processor, doesn't mean that work doesn't exist, because if it didn't threadrippers would not be a thing

[stoic viper]

I said that intel core ultra 2nd generation is for ordinary people and it is stupid to compare it with threadripper

[mint lily]

There's a 2nd generation now lmao

I didn't know that

They are gonna be better at work loads than a 9800x3d tho, simply because they have more cores

[stoic viper]

the first generation was only on laptops, the second generation on regular PCs and laptops

[mint lily]

That makes sense actually

I stopped caring abt intel after the x3d chips released

[stoic viper]

For many, this won't really interfere with their work

[mint lily]

It will

Having more than 8 cores for work dramatically speeds up waiting times

I'm talking it's dramatically faster, 8 core CPUs are gaming chips and shouldn't be used for work

[rain temple]

no

[blissful carbon]

this depends entirely on the nature of the work, and size of projects

[mint lily]

Not really

Blender, video editing, etc all can use more than 8 cores

Most are capped at 64, so having more than 8 more than always speeds workloads up unless you're using word exclusively, then why do you need more than a core 2 duo or an i3 💀

[blissful carbon]

and not all cores are equal... 8 strong cores is generally better than 16 much weaker cores

[blissful carbon]

just because they have the ability to, does not mean they will benefit much from doing so in a small project

Plus, not everyone can even afford > 8 cores

[cinder veldt]

Atleast for AM4 the 5900s are actually in a decent range

might pick one up at some point to build a server pc

put the Quadro to work aswell

[scarlet stirrup]

hi there anyone want to play CS 2 or DF ?

[obsidian bobcat]

If you're looking for someone to play with, please go to #1094715375884697600

[scarlet stirrup]

ok

[short lily]

Does anyone know how to sign up for a trial of Amazon Prime? I want to get Minecraft Legends.

[raven hull]

I don't remember prime doing free trial. they do offer (or at least they did) discount membership for students and such.

[floral siren]

you lot able to download BF2?

[icy orbit]

blanket statements like this dont work for many reasons but the most obvious reason is "so why does my 20 year old cpu with 2000 cores lose to a 1 month old cpu with 2 cores"

[mint lily]

Who the hell thinks that I'm talking about current gen CPUs 😭

[polar knot]

Does anyone know how to fix remote play not letting me control my xbox with my controller connected? I have my controller plugged into my pc and it works on everything but remote play

[stoic viper]

https://tenor.com/view/bard-cafe-cutie-league-of-legends-3d-chibiin-gif-26095167

[scarlet stirrup]

hello there

[vital forum]

Unless your work is just powerpoint idk what you talking about

[mint lily]

If your work is just PowerPoint a core 2 duo is fine

[vital forum]

That thing can't even run win 11 anymore

I have an i3, Ryzen 5, i7 currently with me
The i3 can't do anything
It's just e-waste

The only way to use it is run some linux dist on it

[icy orbit]

if only there was a way to tell people which cpu you were using

[leaden nest]

im over the age of 18

[mint lily]

Yes it can bri

Any processor over 1ghz with 2 cores can run windows

💀

[jagged venture]

provided it's a newer variant

[jagged venture]

i hope you're being sarcastic ._.

[obsidian bobcat]

For support, head over to #1091756150644555946 and read through the pinned Self help topic as well as search to see if your issue has been solved previously and you can solve the issue on your own. If you still need assistance, you can create a new post, but please read through the post guidelines first.

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[smoky flame]

something I've been wondering recently. I've been gaming on my PC at 1080p with my monitor's dual mode feature more often and it got me thinking that I have the high res assets installed for Diablo 4. I wouldn't need those if I continue to play at 1080p right?

[rain temple]

Ya

[stoic viper]

Nvidia Cuts Gaming Graphics Cards by 20% or 30%

Due to duties, prices for Nvidia video cards have recently increased by 15%, I don't know by how much % Nvidia video cards will increase in price now

😭

[dusky wave]

Yikes.

Now its supply as well lol

[devout remnant]

My Next Monitor:

ASUS 4th Gen OLED

[dusky wave]

How much?

Seems gonna be up there with 540hz and 1500 nits for hdr

[devout remnant]

Probably about £1,250

It’s not out till end of the year

[patent hound]

I don’t think I’ll upgrade my monitor for years. 240hz 4k is enough for me

[smoky flame]

same. Very happy with my monitor. Still consider it to be one of my best tech purchases

[dusky wave]

Im still on my 4k144hz monitor. Probably stay til it breaks but next monitor will be a OLED

[patent hound]

Yeah OLED is so nice. Even makes the switch 2 games look great

[dusky wave]

Res depending on what pc upgrades i will be doing over the next few years. But if rn im looking at a 1440p OLED if im sticking with my 6800xt

[devout remnant]

Tandem OLED is a game changer

Combine that with Glossy Panel - damn, it’s going to go up many levels.

[smoky flame]

I need to have a look at this Tandem OLED

[devout remnant]

Make sure you look with both eyes.

[devout remnant]

https://youtu.be/gKFsPeRVqaY?si=SJW9ESrtrLZsYbEd

The most important part is how it fixes the lower colour volume of WOLED versus QD-OLED

Without the drawbacks of QD-OLED due to the True Black Glossy Panel.

[smoky flame]

sounds like that will be part of my next gaming monitor. Made a small list of stuff I want from my next one that is improvements on what I already have including: RGB subpixel layout and max Displayport 2.1 and HDMI 2.2 bandwidth support (that is not a typo with HDMI btw). I'd happily stick to 4K 240Hz or maybe look at higher refresh rates while sticking to 4K, especially if that monitor also supported a 1080p dual mode again

[patent hound]

Pretty sure my monitor is a QD oled with a glossy screen

[past lintel]

guys, i need some help with my account

[devout remnant]

No, they don’t exist

Some QD’s use an older “Semi-Glossy” layer but it’s not true glossy like a TV.

[past lintel]

i still can't play online, even after enableing my account settings

[patent hound]

Idk but it just says its a glossy screen

[obsidian bobcat]

For support, head over to #1091756150644555946 and read through the pinned Self help topic as well as search to see if your issue has been solved previously and you can solve the issue on your own. If you still need assistance, you can create a new post, but please read through the post guidelines first.

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[devout remnant]

Definitely not the same

[normal plover]

To be fair this is one of the times where it seems like a feasible improvement

To me, a lot of the time, new display tech is like ‘look at big number go bigger’

[devout remnant]

It’s more than brightness

There’s genuine improvement in colour volume.

[short lily]

I want clean mouse pad

I have black case and monitor and white desk

I want a mouse pad that matches these colors.

[smoky flame]

one thing I'd love to have the most is colour accurate displays. Whether that is a TV or monitor but I'm not sure I'm a fan of the oversaturation on monitors. Calibrated my monitor to sRGB via the software LG has and it still looks great

[dusky wave]

Im gonna invest in a gaming floor mat and a keyboard mat for the first time

Im having vinyl flooring installed

[icy orbit]

whats a keyboard mat

[dusky wave]

Think a mouse pad big brother for keyboard and mouse

[icy orbit]

ok so just a desk pad really. dont think ive ever heard it referred to as a keyboard mat

but cool 👍

personally i use the Aqua Control II.

[dusky wave]

Thinking on getting ktrio

[devout remnant]

That’s why I love ASUS monitors as they’re factory calibrated out the box.

[steel orbit]

i dont have money for the pc game pass😭

[smoky flame]

I thought that only applied to certain picture modes like an sRGB preset? usually ASUS provide some information on that though iirc

[dusky wave]

Then save up thats what everyone do for game pass

[steel orbit]

jajajaja

[devout remnant]

Yeah they usually calibrate it to a mode that they think is the most accurate and then you can just fine tune it for HDR.

[smoky flame]

thing is that mode may not be the default used out of the box so will often look oversaturated as a result and HDR (Rec.2020) using a completely different colourspace to SDR (sRGB) it will look washed out if you were to only use the mode ASUS calibrated, not to mention Windows HDR isn't really that great until watching content made for it. I wish there was a way Windows could detect and allow the user to change to HDR on the fly rather than having to look at a washed out desktop that is using sRGB

[smoky flame]

I would rather wait for a way to calibrate HDR the same way SDR can be. For whatever reason hardly any software or hardware supports it properly but when it does that’ll be when HDR finally goes places. How long has HDR been around for now at this point? Not like it is a new thing

I think the only software that allows proper HDR calibration is that Calman software you typically see tech reviewers use on monitors or TVs they are reviewing when they get around to the detailed colour stuff but that software costs over 4x what my monitor cost (£983) me I think. That’s how limited proper HDR calibration seems to be

[devout remnant]

They give you a sheet and it explains what they’ve done.

[devout remnant]

I don’t think it’s that deep.
I used the Windows HDR Calibration and it worked fine - at the end of the day, tune it to what you like and be happy with it.
It’s not life and death 😄

I still even prefer SDR in Windows Games and don’t even turn on HDR 90% of the time.

This is SDR.

[devout remnant]

https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/store/gears-of-war-reloaded-beta/9PCRW4WLJ38Q/0010

Anyone interested in getting the beta!

[meager ermine]

can the new xbox rog ally be considered a pc?

[ruby spear]

It is a PC

[exotic jacinth]

I’ll be on both beta weekends most likely

[short lily]

I want a steering wheel for the computer at a good price and good quality

[devout remnant]

Nice

I’ll be on from Saturday

[cunning oxide]

yo

[smoky flame]

on the calibration thing from last night. I can use some software from LG to calibrate it to various colourspaces (native, DCI-P3, sRGB and a few others) and while HDR calibration is possible via this software, not every LG display is supported as features will vary from model to model. My monitor unfortunately (and somewhat surprisingly) doesn't support HDR calibration yet one of the older ones that was 1440p does, which to me makes little sense. I should also add that in order to calibrate using this software you will need a colorimeter

[icy orbit]

why do you want to use HDR anyway, dont you use windows

[smoky flame]

that I do yeah and occasionally I use HDR but really not that often

would be cool just to be able to try and calibrate HDR so that I know the content I'm viewing displays colours accurately and I'm really not sure the Windows HDR Calibration tool does that or can go far enough without requiring the use of a colorimeter too. Wasn't that built around the same (or very similar) HDR calibration feature Xbox consoles have and isn't it only limited to Auto HDR?

[devout remnant]

Exactly 😄

[patent hound]

What’s wrong with using HDR on windows?

[devout remnant]

Absolutely nothing

[smoky flame]

I'm just not a fan of how it is implemented on Windows and having very little to no option to be able to calibrate HDR properly (with use of equipment like a colorimeter) is all. When it is in use it is fine though

[icy orbit]

windows HDR is relatively well known to be not-the-best
but like what else are you gonna use it with

especially auto HDR. its just a free wash-out filter

glorified SDR, yum.

[devout remnant]

Yeah

Extremely washed out if I turn it on

SDR looks much better imo

Plus desktop use for me is a no go

So I leave it in SDR mode

[icy orbit]

i just use defaults. i have a HDR profile i set up a while ago but im not silly enough to use HDR on windows when i have basically no hdr content

[devout remnant]

I’ve tuned it a little to my liking

Nothing extreme.

[icy orbit]

nice

[smoky flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb5excrfbHk interesting video related to an option added in Windows 11 that is somewhat related to calibration

[devout remnant]

Got a new high score

[wary goblet]

can someone review my pcpp list

[icy orbit]

do you usually not send the pcpp list in question when you ask for reviews

[full flint]

Lol

[raven hull]

Need parts. 0/10

[blazing kiln]

Is there such thing as saving graphics settings for a game? Like some days I fancy custom settings for the best fps, other days I prefer visual quality. Random thought and curious on opinions

[devout remnant]

Usually, no

Although graphics profiles would be great.

Closest thing you will get is Graphics Presets

[ruby spear]

Depends how the settings are saved. If it writes to an ini file, for example, you could keep a backup of each configuration and swap it in. But it may just be easier to keep a screenshot of what you had things set to and switch it back.

[plucky marsh]

You could use something like the nvidia app. It literally has a slider where you can choose between performance or quality.

[smoky flame]

is that the part of the app that tries to optimize in game settings to suit one of those ways? if so I'm not sure I'd trust it much as it may push higher resolutions that could hurt performance through super resolution (and I'm not talking DLSS)

[patent hound]

It put frame gen and raytracing on for me

Wasn’t a fan of that

[floral siren]

Hey guys yall got any time specific on when eafc 25 will come out?

[ruby spear]

No time has been announced.

[floral siren]

oh alright

[plucky marsh]

Yeah, was just thought. I don't use it personally.

[pulsar cargo]

Stupid question! How do I disconnect my controller when I'm finished using it with the Xbox PC adapter? Right now I go into devices and click remove. But that means I must pair it again when I want to use it. Other than removing the USB - is there an easier way?

I feel like there's an easier way but idk what it is - on my Series X I just press home then turn off the controller. for future reference. Hold down the Xbox home button for like 10 seconds and it will turn off!

[ruby spear]

Hold the Xbox button and it powers off.

[pulsar cargo]

Yeah I was trying for like 5 seconds but wasn't doing anything 😅 just needed to a bit longer. Thank you.

[odd lynx]

Hu

[short lily]

I want good 256 gb nvme ssd

[dusky wave]

do they even make a nvme at 256 gigs?

i only see 512 or bigger

[raven hull]

Go for at least 1 TB. 256 is good for the OS if you want like super fast boot.

[dusky wave]

especially with how large some modern games r

[smoky flame]

I'd just go for at least 1TB as a decent M.2 SSD these days can come in at £50 per TB or less. Compared to the few exceptions where it can exceed that quite a bit even 2TB might be possible but it might be worth asking on here before jumping at the first thing you see as some M.2 SSDs may be tied to SATA making them not much, if at all faster than a SATA SSD (though idk if that is an old thing now or what) and another thing to watch out for I believe is DRAMless M.2 SSDs as they tend to perform a bit worse than those with some DRAM on them while coming in cheaper

[icy orbit]

M.2 SSDs (assuming pcie because thats basically what everyone refers to) doesnt benefit much, if at all, from DRAM if all you use your ssd for is just gaming and general OS business

unlike SATA drives it uses HMB which uses a small part of your systems RAM

[cinder veldt]

iirc its way more important for dram on a sata then a nvme?

[cinder veldt]

also never knew this but gross

[icy orbit]

why is it gross

[icy orbit]

yeah because SATA doesnt have HMB

[cinder veldt]

because i must dedicate all my ram to 1127 tabs of firefox

[icy orbit]

its an incredibly minor amount of RAM

like ~100 mb at most

[royal iron]

my pc dont open xbox app, someone can help?

[iron spindle]

make a support thread in #1091756150644555946

[cinder veldt]

the 5500x3d is a real thing

amd keeping am4 alive and well just for funsies at this point

[dusky wave]

really? they should just focus on am5 then stick to am4 at this point. yeah a few years ago when am4 and am5 had roughly the same perf now am5 all the way

[cinder veldt]

they shouldve stayed on am4 if they like it so much

[icy orbit]

its pretty easy to sell bad bin chips to people if you put X3D on the end of it

[foggy isle]

why does games on ea install so slow

[blissful carbon]

I have a 128 GB NVMe that I use as a flash drive

[dusky wave]

Really?

[blissful carbon]

yes

cheap enclosure + cheap nvme is better value performance wise than buying a flash drive

[mellow lintel]

no platform wars here

[tropic summit]

k sorry

[hardy saddle]

i cant change gamertag help

[topaz wedge]

😭 “The Witcher 4” won’t drop until 2027?! Looks like i’ll be aiming for “The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt” and see what’s up w/ that game in the near future. The only thing I don’t like about The Witcher is the in-game font is so tiny imo. Ontop of that “GTA VI” isn’t dropping until May 26, 2026😩 Any good (PC) or (Xbox) games with a good story anyone know of? I hear “The Last of Us”, “Elden Ring”, &“Beyond: Two Souls”. What other games do you guys recommend?

[normal plover]

Red dead redemption 2

[topaz wedge]

Yeah, thats another great one!!

[icy orbit]

persona 3 reload / 5 royal is pretty cool. although different from elden ring

fwiw i have almost 400 hours on Celeste

[devout remnant]

Downloaded

SplitGate 2
&
The Alters

Will try them out.

[jagged venture]

Abiotic Factor, though that's a different genre entirely

[cinder veldt]

dark souls remastered

[somber maple]

Does anyone know if the Gears Reloaded code that was sent out is compatible with Steam? Or is it only for PC Gamepass?

[iron spindle]

just xbox PC as its a xbox code from xbox not steam code

[formal obsidian]

do you need microsoft store downloaded in order to sync your accounts up?

[cinder veldt]

No

[formal obsidian]

then why does it say mismatch ive done the rest of the solutions it feels 😭

[unborn dust]

Hi

[devout remnant]

Downloaded SplitGate 2 & The Alters

I was getting constant micro stutters

This helped fixed it for me

https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/s/ZrgCvaBp74

This fix is for anyone having issues in Unreal Engine Games like I was.

[smoky flame]

Global C states might be off with the auto option? Now that’s chaotic as I would have thought auto defaulted to enabled for that option

[devout remnant]

It seems so.

Because having it on fixed my stutters immediately.

The Alters is free on Game Pass if anyone wants to try it/test it out.

[smoky flame]

Out of curiosity what power plan/mode are you using because iirc using the high performance will disable the c states automatically and since Zen 3 hasn’t been recommended by AMD to be used as they favour the balanced power profile

[devout remnant]

Balanced

[raven hull]

You’re a bit sus. You posted the link 5 times, 2 places don’t belong in the channel.

[floral totem]

yea i just sent modmail a message about it

[violet smelt]

delete, then re install

[royal iron]

i tried many many times

[topaz vigil]

i’m not sus i’m just tryna get it around

[ruby spear]

Well don't.

[prime plank]

Hello

[vocal dust]

hi can anyone help me with an issue i have with the pc xbox app, im in general discussion 1

[obsidian bobcat]

For support, head over to #1091756150644555946 and read through the pinned Self help topic as well as search to see if your issue has been solved previously and you can solve the issue on your own. If you still need assistance, you can create a new post, but please read through the post guidelines first.

NOTE: This is community sourced support and there is no official support here on Discord. People will help if/when they are able to. If you have an issue regarding your account and/or billing, reach out to official support at https://support.xbox.com/contact-us/ for assistance.

[barren radish]

Hello, I have a problem with the Xbox application on my computer. I'm running at around 20 megabits, whereas on the Epic Game and Steam launcher I'm at 500-700 megabits. I also did a speed test, I'm at 700 megabits per download and 900 megabits per upload. I would like to resolve this problem as quickly as possible, please, because installing games over 100 GB takes a very long time.

[topaz vigil]

this is pc gaming isnt it?

so im promoting my pc for pc gaming

[latent gate]

this is also the server with the rules about no self-promotion, or advertisements.

[safe finch]

🇧🇷

[cinder veldt]

Anything interesting going on in the puter space?

all i heard about is a new Zen 5 cpu with its igpu disabled

[smoky flame]

doesn't seem to be much else than that at the moment that wouldn't descend into rumours and leaks talk

[full flint]

@barren radish

You still need help with slow Xbox speed's ? Networking is something im varygood at.

[mint lily]

It's not disabled it just straight up doesn't have one

Besides that though, nothing

[patent hound]

Only real downside is that you wouldn’t be able to use an igpu to test with

[versed quartz]

I miss goonswarming so much

Someone help me out, where did the funny hatsune miku spray guys go to in gaming rn

[cedar smelt]

Does that phrase have something to do with Something Awful? I'd stop using that one if I were you.

Times have changed.

[versed quartz]

How have they changed

[versed quartz]

Tsss tssss, steez

Thats kagamine rin

[brisk basin]

Anyone know how to fix error code 0x800704c6. I have tried nearly every fix on the internet and nothing has worked?!?!

[floral quail]

guys what is a good mouse, I'm using a razer deathadder v2 and the side rubber grips are turning into goo so im looking up other mice and i have no idea where to start looking, i really love the deathadder shape so im thinking glorious model d?

[jagged venture]

i'm a steelseries fan myself

the program isn't bad, mice are decent

though i mostly buy because the program isn't hot garbage like razors

[floral quail]

o yea id prefer no or very light software

[icy orbit]

if you like the deathadder shape just get the deathadder v3 pro

otherwise its hard to recc a mouse without knowing your hand size and grip style

[floral quail]

ive had reliability issues with razer before

the mouse has been the most reliable with only once or twice where it bugged out in the several years ive had it

[icy orbit]

ok so you encountered issues with razer one time a while back and now the deathadder v3 pro is bad or am i misunderstanding

because its a good mouse if youre a fan of the shape

tho if you dont want the deathadder id just suggest whatever lamzu mice you like the shape of.

all of their newest ones use omron opticals which is cool.

i use the maya X and the atlantis champion

both in pink.

[cinder veldt]

i like the deathadder because its very tanky and feels nice to use

@smoky flame also i know you mentioned if it was possible but someone managed to stick fsr 4 on the 7000 series

Quailty is better then FSR3 but it does take a performance hit, around 30 to 40%
(80 to 56 on cyberpunk, in and around 20 to 30% worse performance in Oblivion)

So TLDR unless if AMD tried very hard to make it work you'd be better off just increasing your resolution and quailty settings

(on the xtx btw)

[smoky flame]

yeah, I've seen that and it might be possible for RDNA 3 to see FSR 4 with the help of FP16 fallback (seeing as RDNA 4 uses FP8) but the performance hit could wipe out any advantage something like the 7900 XTX had over a 9070 XT, favouring the latter in head to heads where FSR 4 is supported and tested

[cinder veldt]

oh also in other news steam overlay will soon be getting its own performance monitor settings. CPU util, gpu util, memory, clocks, temps, and it will show the fps from fsr and dlss and from frame gen

[smoky flame]

yep, that is a move from Steam. Waiting for it to go public though as I'm not one for jumping into betas etc. Would rather deal with less issues

[dusky wave]

sweet how about the amf stuff? or is that still on the amd app only?

[cinder veldt]

all frame gen

[dusky wave]

when is the update out?

[cinder veldt]

im not sure its still in beta atm

[dusky wave]

i thought thats only for fsr3 as amf is a driver level frame gen or whatever it is

[cinder veldt]

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/3462-CD4C-36BD-5767

theres more info in their article

[sly quartz]

hey guys i need help with something, so im trying to update a game on pc gamepass but whenn i do i keep getting an error, and its not been letting me play any games

[obsidian bobcat]

For support, head over to #1091756150644555946 and read through the pinned Self help topic as well as search to see if your issue has been solved previously and you can solve the issue on your own. If you still need assistance, you can create a new post, but please read through the post guidelines first.

NOTE: This is community sourced support and there is no official support here on Discord. People will help if/when they are able to. If you have an issue regarding your account and/or billing, reach out to official support at https://support.xbox.com/contact-us/ for assistance.

[floral quail]

but everything else i have from razer frequently bugs out and stops working. i just got lucky with the mouse i guess?

[devout remnant]

https://youtu.be/z-ggq_S3sDQ?si=ZrKNm9UcdCj8UTjv

[frigid stone]

Hello

[soft acorn]

yo guys, I came more for the tag than anything else XD but I've just been reading the xbox news about XboxOS finally being able to use the windows desktop now and task switching with an xbox controller, then all this with being able to install steam and epic on it, is just insane, if yall got more news on this I wanna eat it all up, bc rog stuff isn't great, and it would be cool for an upcoming pc handheld with xboxOS to have joycons like a switch, and if there's any rumors on that

[ruby spear]

We don't allow discussion of rumours/leaks here, so only things that have been officially announced.

[soft acorn]

buh

[solar hinge]

do any of you play hold fast

[ashen quartz]

can i ask questions here?

[mellow lintel]

you may or may not get an answer but sure lol

[ashen quartz]

does anyone know where i can find the exe of a game? more specifically grounded?

[mellow lintel]

ah. no

that falls probably under rule 12 stuffs

[ashen quartz]

what's that

[mellow lintel]

#rules

[ashen quartz]

oh so like hidhide to stop my controller from messing with the game is against rules ok mb

[ashen quartz]

hey how do i open games from the exe?

[normal plover]

Buy and download it from GOG

[ashen quartz]

idk where's the assumption that i don't own the game coming from im just trying to open it from the exe

my tags jaywrldddd you can check😭😭

[normal plover]

😭 launching it from gog gives you the exe

[ashen quartz]

oh i thought u were being sarcastic idk what gog is im mainly on steam i barely touch xbox app💔💔

but what is it? and is it a file or is it like a separate thing?

[plucky marsh]

Are you trying to find the .exe from Steam? Or Game Pass?

[devout remnant]

Big deals on

[ashen quartz]

game pass

[ashen quartz]

what's gog stand for so i can search it up when i wake up

[ruby spear]

Good Old Games

[icy orbit]

why do you want to find specific files? youve already said you mainly use steam.
steams executables are hidden in the big green play button

guide attached

xbox app you just click on the game i think 🤔

[dusky wave]

whats is a decent mouse for gaming and office work?

im thinking g502 or basilisk v3

[ruby spear]

Razer Naga Pro

[dusky wave]

im clueless with mouse. i dont think i need that many programmable buttons. something egronomic with some backlight/rgb

[exotic jacinth]

I’ve always just used my Razer deathadder for both as it’s pretty comfortable

[devout remnant]

I got a G903 LightSpeed

[ashen quartz]

because i want to open the game via exe. i dont see how that can possibly be a problem

[cinder veldt]

PC needs surgey

i have removed its GPUs and Memory
the Lobotomy is going well

[icy orbit]

refer to my previous message
#pc-gaming message

theres some general well rounded mice such as the vxe r1 pro but if you actually care about your mouse you should probably look for specific recommendations based on how you hold your mouse and how big your hand is

[rotund acorn]

is it normal for a laptop that exeeds the borderlands 2 reccomended specs not launching

[bold gale]

whats the laptop?

[rotund acorn]

bare minimum windows 11

[bold gale]

do you know the parts?

[rotund acorn]

amd athlon

i desperatly need a new pc

[bold gale]

wow what kinda athlon

[rotund acorn]

3050u silver

last time i checked a geforce 260 was less powerful than its igpu

[bold gale]

just looked it up and its way newer than it sounded

[acoustic sandal]

guys who can help me?

i got a problem

sry

[obsidian bobcat]

For support, head over to #1091756150644555946 and read through the pinned Self help topic as well as search to see if your issue has been solved previously and you can solve the issue on your own. If you still need assistance, you can create a new post, but please read through the post guidelines first.

NOTE: This is community sourced support and there is no official support here on Discord. People will help if/when they are able to. If you have an issue regarding your account and/or billing, reach out to official support at https://support.xbox.com/contact-us/ for assistance.

[acoustic sandal]

it worked now

[dapper cradle]

I have an RTX 3050 GPU on my laptop.

[dapper cradle]

I would say no. There is a compatiblity issue.

[silk hornet]

How to install the Xbox game launcher on PC if it requires me to update my Windows, what I for some reasons cannot do?

[ember quest]

Hello guys how do I check my pc xbox app game download speed ? And time

Like how long it will take to download

[sleek forum]

normally when you download a game it should show you the speed when you click show queue

[dusty vector]

Uh, how out of date is your Windows?

The Xbox app supports back to Windows 10 22H2

[cinder veldt]

windows 95

[sleek forum]

anyone having issue with any of their desktop shortcuts

[dusky wave]

no

[raven hull]

I remove all desktop shortcuts. My desktop is just for wallpaper.

[olive patio]

Algum br para jogar rematch no pc?

[obsidian bobcat]

#rules 🔤 2. Use English only. Communicate in English, but be considerate of all languages.

[exotic jacinth]

Looks like we can use ESU on Windows 10 for free now which is interesting. Can do so by either using 1000 Microsoft points or by enabling windows backup for settings. I was wondering if they would make it free considering so many people are on W10 still and seems like they backtracked a bit there.

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2025/06/24/stay-secure-with-windows-11-copilot-pcs-and-windows-365-before-support-ends-for-windows-10/

[sullen trellis]

Oh they actually offer MS 365 Security and Windows Defender Updates up until Oct 2028? That's great news for those who can't upgrade just yet!

[exotic jacinth]

Yeah so essentially end of support will be delayed for most people until 2026 now if they sign up for backups and the antivirus via defender will be updated for a few years after that

[cinder veldt]

9600x3d is real

probably going to be only sold in microcenters, specific regions, and or in prebuilts if i had to guess

[smoky flame]

I don’t understand why there are CPU launches like that when a CPU like a 9600X3D would be very popular. 6-8 cores is plenty for most gamers

[blissful carbon]

Probably to avoid eating into the sales of 9800x3d

[smoky flame]

hmm, yeah as that would come in cheaper being a lower end SKU

as silly as it is and I know I shouldn't be concerned with the naming or that I really think AMD should reserve the X600 and X800 SKUs for X3D CPUs while the X500 and X700 would be the frequency cores option

[cinder veldt]

im only saying probably as its most common for amd to trend into that direction ie the 5600x3d and 7600x3d being microcenter exclusives, the 5500x3d being sold in latin american countries and the 9600 non x is being put in prebuilts and oems and things in that nature

[cinder veldt]

also
rtx 5050
waste of sand incoming

[lament torrent]

anyone know if you can get mods on games on xbox app on windows cuz I wanted to play some games with mods and get gta fivem

[ruby spear]

Yes, you can mod games from the Xbox app.

It may not be supported with all games, but it doesn't prevent modding entirely.

[patent hound]

I think it’s just harder

[dusky wave]

Not really really easy for ue4 and ue5 games. U just need to find the right folder

[icy orbit]

imagine theres not enough to satisfy global releases

considering theyre just bad bin

[sharp gulch]

can someone help me my audio just gets glitch when i open sea of thieves or when i join a xbox party pls help

[violet loom]

Hi

[woven wedge]

Kindly recommended interesting PC games that I can install online

[ruby spear]

Clair Obscur: Expedition 33

[cinder veldt]

@chrome mountain just bringing it over here but what would be your budget for a motherboard?

and if you have a case you picked out whats the size motherboard can it fit?

[dusky wave]

for a new pc player i would say atx case and boards is a way to go if they have the space for it

[chrome mountain]

Ooh never been in here before

[cinder veldt]

this place is sacred

[chrome mountain]

Case would be last that’s what other people says in my other server

[cinder veldt]

fair enough, some people like to build around their case

[chrome mountain]

I could even just make my pc case a cardboard box if I wanted lol

[cinder veldt]

truly

[cinder veldt]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08LGKGBKT?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[dusky wave]

true but open air design sounds hard on the upkeep tbh

[cinder veldt]

i think youd like that one

[dusky wave]

especially if peeps are lazy

[cinder veldt]

its 110 bucks, two nvme ssd slots, supports the 5800xt out of the box

[chrome mountain]

Not bad not bad

[dusky wave]

thats the same one i have rn

[cinder veldt]

lol

[chrome mountain]

Just need a motherboard that supports anything that’s about it

[cinder veldt]

thats the one

[chrome mountain]

Sweet

[dusky wave]

did u choose ur ram yet?

[cinder veldt]

when i built my first computer?
i bought a b450 which didnt support the 5000 series without a bios update
i got lucky with my cousin who had a 3600

[dusky wave]

recommend 2x 16 gb at 3600mhz

[cinder veldt]

id say 3200

[chrome mountain]

I’ll talk about this later gtg

[cinder veldt]

alright, later

[dusky wave]

later

[grand marlin]

Hi

[smoky flame]

🤔 what did I miss in here?

[blissful carbon]

some pc chat ig

and that was not supposed to ping, smh

[smoky flame]

no worries on the ping. I'm alright with being pinged as I have notifications off anyway. I'll only see it if I'm on Discord or it shows up on my phone's Discord app

[cinder veldt]

Fusion was curious what motherboard he should get for his 5800xt

narrowed it down to a b550, sent one for a gigabyte board

[smoky flame]

nice, though just out of curiosity, was there any mention of why they picked a 5800XT considering AM4 is at a dead end and has no upgrade path? I would opt for an AM5 series CPU and motherboard at this point, if the budget allows for it

[cinder veldt]

its only 150 dollars usd

i have no idea why except when i was on pcpartpicker the 5800xt is that much

[devout remnant]

Got Cyberpunk & Black Myth off Steam Summer Sale

Looking forward to them both!

[patent hound]

Wukong is a tough game but it’s very fun

[devout remnant]

Yeah it’s not easy 😄

But visually it’s stunning

The opening is incredible

[icy orbit]

how come you didnt get expedition 33

not interested?

[patent hound]

it’s on game pass anyway

[chrome mountain]

What’s a good Gpu to start off with

Definitely not paying $800 something for a gpu when I start off building my own pc

[patent hound]

Well what is the budget for the entire build

[chrome mountain]

Uhh probably $200-300

[patent hound]

As in 200-300 for everything in total?

[chrome mountain]

No no like gpu price

[patent hound]

What about the entire build

[icy orbit]

typically the fastest you can afford

[patent hound]

Everything is important in the PC, so it’s important to choose parts that synergise

[chrome mountain]

I’m getting my list down

I’m on power supply

Any suggestions?

[icy orbit]

suggestions for a power supply?

[chrome mountain]

Should I get one that would work for anything

Like one that has enough watts to power anything I throw at it

[icy orbit]

you dont really pick a power supply based on its advertised wattage

well. you shouldnt.

are you in the US?

[chrome mountain]

Yes

[icy orbit]

what cpu are you running it with

[chrome mountain]

AMD Ryzen 7 5800xt

Gigabyte B550 Gaming X V2

would be the motherboard'

[icy orbit]

if this fits in your case i see no reason to choose anything else
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bGJp99/corsair-rm750x-shift-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-side-interface-atx-power-supply-cp-9020251-na

[chrome mountain]

Alright thanks

I got a list of tabs going

lol 😂

[icy orbit]

if you arent already id just use https://pcpartpicker.com/

[patent hound]

That’s expensive for a power supply..

[chrome mountain]

It’s 90 on Newegg

[patent hound]

Can get one much cheaper

[icy orbit]

yeah. i saw.

im not about to suggest someone purchase a bad unit when the RMX shift is right there though

[patent hound]

No but there are some decent budget power supplies too. Everything really counts in budget builds

[chrome mountain]

Do fan size/amount matter when looking for gpu?

[icy orbit]

using PCPPs site the RMX shift is the only decently priced 650-750 PSU right now. no one in their right mind should be paying 70 dollars for a CL650G or 75 for an A650BN

[chrome mountain]

Wait what’s after CPU Motherboard and Powersupply?

[icy orbit]

case gpu ram

[chrome mountain]

Oooh right ram

[patent hound]

A650BN is a good enough power supply

[icy orbit]

yeah but did you actually read what i said?

its 75 dollars right now

it makes no sense to buy over the RMX shift

unless its cheaper on amazon or something and PCPP just hasnt updated the price id rather just spend the extra 10 dollars for the shift

[patent hound]

True but it doesn’t really make a difference anyway.

[icy orbit]

of course it does 😛

[chrome mountain]

this is where you put the ram stuff in right?

[patent hound]

yes

[icy orbit]

RMx is fully modular, runs a lot quieter, has a zero RPM toggle and has excellent protections compared to the ABN

[chrome mountain]

are they call ram chips or something?

[icy orbit]

the noise and modularity of the PSU are just personal preference but theyre definitely nice to have

[patent hound]

I use corsair too but the 1000W one

now that I think about it, more than half my PC is corsair

[icy orbit]

i really recommend just using https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ and just filtering for the cheapest DDR4
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wNt9TW/teamgroup-t-create-expert-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-ttced432g3200hc16fdc01 is $50 and looks cool enough

or just go for 2x8 instead

much easier to shop on a price comparison site than it is opening several tabs and flicking between them repeatedly comparing prices

tho you do you

[patent hound]

I would probably stick with 32 since some new games are starting to recommend that now too

[chrome mountain]

id probably get the two 16gb

[patent hound]

and ram isn’t that expensive

[icy orbit]

nice. do you know which model exactly?

[chrome mountain]

I could get a bunch and have so much ram haha

since the motherboard is up to 128 gb of ram

[icy orbit]

why would you do that tho

[chrome mountain]

extreme loading speeds

[patent hound]

1000W rmx

[icy orbit]

having more ram doesnt speed things up

if anything it slows it down

[chrome mountain]

oh

32 gb ram it is then lol

[patent hound]

To get the fastest speeds for ram you would want DDR5 CL30 but that’s out of the question here

[chrome mountain]

could have 64 as well

[icy orbit]

theres no reason for 64GB if youre not going to utilise it

[chrome mountain]

thats also true

[icy orbit]

for a gaming machine i doubt youll utilise it. hard to even fully utilise all of 32GB for gaming

[chrome mountain]

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-gv-r76xtgaming-oc-16gd-radeon-rx-7600-xt-16gb-graphics-card-triple-fans/p/N82E16814932687

[patent hound]

I would only ever recommend 64GB if you were running a 5090 4k ultra settings. Even then you wouldn’t really need it

[chrome mountain]

how does this gpu look?

[chrome mountain]

Yeah I probably ain’t gonna be doing that lol

[icy orbit]

how much do 5060 Ti 16GB go for 🤔

[smoky flame]

how much does the 9060 XT 16GB go for?

[chrome mountain]

Honestly just a 100 dollars more than that gpu I posted

[icy orbit]

PCPP shows this as available on newegg
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BxRnTW/asrock-challenger-oc-radeon-rx-9060-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx9060xt-cl-16go

[chrome mountain]

so all this is a wopping $787

[icy orbit]

fwiw the CL_ has no relevant indication on the performance of any given kit of RAM
CL30-38 (assuming all at 6000) is gonna perform similarly enough with XMP that its just gonna be irrelevant

though again irrelevant im just picking at nothing

[chrome mountain]

and probably 100 dollars more with a case

so id probably just save up $900 for it

[icy orbit]

wait, when are you planning on purchasing?

[chrome mountain]

900 is cheaper than $1300

[chrome mountain]

whenever I get money

[icy orbit]

i dont advise on planning specific components to purchase if youre not actually buying them now or within a week
prices change often and new parts may be available or other parts may change price and be favourable

or what you have picked may just go OOS

[smoky flame]

cases are usually a nightmare to pick from with so much selection but ideally you want one that allows for good airflow, future proofing (yes, I really said that forbidden word within the PC community 😛 ) and an easy building experience

[icy orbit]

AKA https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BXtLrH/phanteks-xt-pro-ultra-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-xt523p1-dbk01

[chrome mountain]

yep nothing too fancy

[patent hound]

My current case is the 5000T

[icy orbit]

to add on to this if you want fast ram youre better off just buying a cheap good kit of ram and just ocing
even a sloppy buildzoid setup is gonna be faster than xmp

😛

[chrome mountain]

I’d save up and probably buy everything during a sale

[patent hound]

My gpu is the limiting factor when I play anyway since I play in 4k. Overclocking anything other than the 4090 won’t get me any better performance

[chrome mountain]

Once everything is in place upgrades won’t be bad at all

[icy orbit]

its not like future proofing doesnt exist. its just that most people usually try to use it in the wrong context.
picking a 5080 to be future proof instead of a cheaper alternative isnt correct, as newer, faster GPUs are bound to release and be better than your 5080.
picking a large case because you plan on doing something, or picking a great PSU such as the AX1600i because you plan on putting in high drawing hardware. i would consider this future proofing. youre picking solutions now that will handle your near-future needs.

[patent hound]

Picking AM5 is future proofing

Since AM4 has pretty much lost all support for new components

[chrome mountain]

So building this pc id need $877 dollars

[smoky flame]

yeah, I just like to poke a bit of fun at that word is all 😄 cases and power supplies I feel are two of the only components that could outlast multiple upgrades. Hell, I still use the case I bought back in 2016 today, Corsair Carbide 400C. Even looked at many other cases and never been able to wrap my head around one choice as there is far too much to pick from. I find even reviews rarely help with this

[icy orbit]

thats todays price though. if youre saving up money to buy it in some point in the future that price will have changed

[chrome mountain]

I’d probably need to wear gloves when building it

[icy orbit]

why

[chrome mountain]

Doesn’t handling the motherboard with your barehands do something?

[icy orbit]

yeah, it puts it into the case? i dont know what else it would do

static isnt really a concern with modern hardware but even if you were concerned about it just like... dont wear socks on a carpet

[chrome mountain]

Guess I’ll follow a guide on how to add software and stuff to the pc once it completed

[smoky flame]

how much were the DDR4 RAM kits coming in at? I'm curious to know if DDR5 is cheaper or more expensive for you

[icy orbit]

the one sent was $50

[smoky flame]

ahh, the build I was about to throw together would have likely come in quite a bit higher in cost then 😮 as it was also featuring a recent AM5 CPU too. AM5 will be the better option overall for future upgradability, provided at least AMD don't end up announcing AM6 with Zen 6 lol

total build cost I think will reach around $1000

[icy orbit]

regardless hes already stated hes not actually buying anything yet and still needs to save up so anything planned now will probably not be ideal by the time hes ready to buy 😛

but even if DDR5 was cheaper itd still cost more due to board costs and a different CPU needed

[smoky flame]

yeah, DDR5 is still higher in cost so I wouldn't be off to a good start lol

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/sQQVQd I put together this "budget" build earlier. Though it could probably do with some changes that might take it below £1000 - where I see budget being for PC

some of these components were part of what someone else had already planned but I worked around it with a newer CPU and GPU

£1000 or less for budget builds, £1000-2000 for mid-upper mid range builds and £2000+ for high end. Special mention to the 5090 and anyone bonkers enough to buy that £4000+ PC the "wtf just burnt my wallet" PC 😄

[icy orbit]

what the freak is this psu

i imagine that price has changed right

[smoky flame]

idk

[icy orbit]

you could go cheaper pretty easily https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Tcmgcx

just change the ram and psu

board is also expensive but its am5 so literally just pick whatever

hey look sub 1k
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/dCq3Qd

[cinder veldt]

deepcool

i have their cpu fan and its very nice but its a shame you cant buy them anymore

[cinder veldt]

320 minimum

[chrome mountain]

what is the ASRock Challenger Radeon RX 9060 XT 16GB equal to chat?

My friend says it’s equivalent to a 2080 Ti and Google is saying it’s equivalent to a 5060 Ti

[icy orbit]

why would you use the 2080 Ti as a baseline in 2025 🤔

its about a 5060 Ti, yeah. though worse featureset.

[chrome mountain]

I’m still going with the Radeon RX 9060 XT yall suggested

[cinder veldt]

equal to a 5060 ti 16 gig, but better in some games, but worse

[abstract fjord]

Is there a way for me to optimize my backgorund tasks besides having on eco mode?

I have 76 background processes is that normal?

[smoky flame]

76 background processes doesn't seem a whole lot. I'm at 192 and CPU is showing no signs of slowing down. As for optimizing them. I'd leave them be tbh. Windows and the CPUs we use, whether Intel or AMD use scheduling features that should be able to optimize background tasks. Also, by eco mode do you mean Ryzen eco mode or Windows eco mode that activates automatically when game mode from within Windows settings is enabled?

[abstract fjord]

Ok good to know I didnt know if that was a lot. I think windows...when I open task manager, its that efficiency mode. I think it just limits background processes? Thats why I activated it before.

[smoky flame]

does it show like this in the task manager?

[abstract fjord]

yeah

[obsidian bobcat]

For support, head over to #1091756150644555946 and read through the pinned Self help topic as well as search to see if your issue has been solved previously and you can solve the issue on your own. If you still need assistance, you can create a new post, but please read through the post guidelines first.

NOTE: This is community sourced support and there is no official support here on Discord. People will help if/when they are able to. If you have an issue regarding your account and/or billing, reach out to official support at https://support.xbox.com/contact-us/ for assistance.

[chrome mountain]

https://www.newegg.com/arctic-cooling-liquid-freezer-iii-360-a-rgb-398mm-amd-socket-am4-amd-socket-am5-intel-lga-1700-black/p/N82E16835186276

[smoky flame]

no real need for that cooler with a 5800XT plus we don't know if you'll change to another CPU while saving up. I would recommend going for AM5 instead of AM4 mainly due to the slot in upgradability that AM5 still currently offers while AM4 is at a dead end. Best AM4 CPU to go for if focused primarily on gaming would be either the 5700X3D or 5800X3D, whatever of the two you can find cheaper

[chrome mountain]

Got another cooler you can suggest?

[patent hound]

Thermalright ones should be fine

[smoky flame]

Arctic released an air cooler around the same time as this AIO cooler, Freezer 36 but there are other options that may be cheaper and also very effective from Thermalright

was it the Peerless Assassin 120 SE?

[chrome mountain]

https://www.newegg.com/p/13C-000Y-000E1?Item=9SIBTVCK9P0752&cm_sp=SP-_-2829556-_-0-_-2-_-9SIBTVCK9P0752-_-cpu cooler-_-cooler|cpu-_-6

this?

[patent hound]

That one would be absolutely fine

[chrome mountain]

Lot of work

[patent hound]

If you were going for a newer intel cpu or higher end AMD cpu I would have definitely suggested an AIO since they run very hot

[patent hound]

You know you don’t have to build it yourself if you don’t want to

[chrome mountain]

I must

It’s cheaper

And will give me experience

[patent hound]

Well yeah it’s entirely up to you. I didn’t build mine because I’m lazy and paid for convenience

[chrome mountain]

are these slots for TWO gpus??

[devout remnant]

No, for any PCIE

[chrome mountain]

PCIE?

[patent hound]

You most likely will only use the one

Which is usually the top one for the GPU as it has higher bandwidth

[devout remnant]

Yes

[iron spindle]

PCIE is the name of the slot (connection) you can plug alot into those GPU is the most common

[chrome mountain]

So in theory I could place 2 on the motherboard if I had enough room?

Not saying I will

[iron spindle]

you wouldnt use them for 2 GPUs the port use used for alot of things as mentioned GPU is just the most common

[chrome mountain]

Okay

[icy orbit]

or for whatever you want

[chrome mountain]

Okay got my list of components updated

Motherboard, CPU/Cooler, power supply, Ram, GPU and then Case

Anything I’m missing?

[chrome mountain]

Not too bad just 7 items

[patent hound]

SSD