pvp

[lime light]

to real wrath?

cuz ppl couldnt clear?

[tropic schooner]

drop chance is higher in hc

[lime light]

at some point

[tropic schooner]

but hm

actually

we may not get

25 man + 25 hc clears

which I believe was a thing

[lime light]

i dont know

[viscid remnant]

pve gear matters for pvp i sleep

go next

[lime light]

YEP

[tropic schooner]

im hyped for the tilt something like atc will bring

and apparently some kind of support prot ret is a thing in private servers

[lime light]

yeah

the ret prot hybrid

true

[tropic schooner]

yea but thats a different one

compared to the one back in actual wotlk

that one was full prot

this one is prot with stun cleansing freedom, and some other shit

[tropic schooner]

thats a top feral?

[lime light]

so neck/back/wrists/belt/boots/both rings

weapon and trinket

are from pve ;D

its top one, but all of them play same shit

like when iam checking gear

everyone use same gear

like

copy paste

[lime light]

so if u find few arms

[tropic schooner]

looking at this dude

yea

close enough

[lime light]

but member

its like super

super bis

deep in icc

so ye

[tropic schooner]

and yea s8

way into future

[lime light]

the icc ring

is no life

go in farm

max rep

for me

legggo

[tropic schooner]

my rogue on tbc needs MH ring

[lime light]

sadge

[tropic schooner]

but I dont need any items from MH anymore

at least not really

so no one takes me

[lime light]

btw, boomkin is actually chad in tbc, if they dont stun your starfall

[tropic schooner]

I played on a totally legit server a few years ago some druid

moonkin pve was kinda fun

played feral pvp

insta clones were hype

[lime light]

ye

i played icecrown a bit and lorderon

[tropic schooner]

played lordaeron

[lime light]

a bit on sunwell

[tropic schooner]

we raided way too much on that server

got server second ulduar 10 man

[lime light]

i had a big guild on alliance side

but it was polish guild

[tropic schooner]

behind memories

[lime light]

we had almost 2 raid grps

it was kinda lot

for pserver

at that moment

[tropic schooner]

lordaeron was a fun server

[lime light]

ye

[tropic schooner]

the tuning was a bit

questionable

we prepotted nature resist pots

on freya

[lime light]

man

greatness gonna cost

[tropic schooner]

and Thorim was mathematically impossible

[lime light]

like 100k+

[tropic schooner]

yea

[lime light]

i will never get it

[tropic schooner]

for sure

[lime light]

what u gonna play

[tropic schooner]

greatness will be disgusting

[lime light]

iam feral and unh dk as usual

[tropic schooner]

pala for sure

not sure what else

[lime light]

maybe arms not sure

[tropic schooner]

if I hit glad on rogue this season in tbc

prolly rogue

but not sure if I will/how much I try

[lime light]

but rogue in tbc vs wrath

are 2 different classes

tho

[tropic schooner]

depends

[lime light]

but ye

[tropic schooner]

mutilate

isnt too far off

[lime light]

idk imo sub is only vialbe spec

[tropic schooner]

but will muti be playable

yea

[lime light]

and u do damage with dance

[tropic schooner]

who knows

[lime light]

thats it

but ye

who knows or even remember

what happens

in s5

[tropic schooner]

yea s5

[lime light]

with 3./3.5

[tropic schooner]

gonna be wild west

[lime light]

balance

[tropic schooner]

personally I believe hunter comps

are gonna be good

[lime light]

ret hunt

best 2s comp

[tropic schooner]

hm

maybe

yea

[lime light]

idk also

i dont remmeber rdru

almost

[tropic schooner]

faced noobpunisher a few times

[lime light]

at all in wrath

[tropic schooner]

on lordaeron

was not fun

[lime light]

ah i remember him

he was good

[tropic schooner]

yes

and em

[lime light]

but he has

[tropic schooner]

whats that hunters name

[lime light]

had

[tropic schooner]

homerj

[lime light]

like super bis gear

[tropic schooner]

he is a fucking god

[lime light]

ye, but thatsa guy

[tropic schooner]

yea he was in memories

[lime light]

that is playing

wrath for 10 years+

every single day

bs + jc

meta also

but in late ssn

early on i think

engi gloves bis

like 2-3k dmg every 45 sec and off gcd

if iam correct

[tropic schooner]

Id expect engi/jc to be meta for most specs

[lime light]

everyone is bs jc on that pserver

not so sure

i think bs is better in super late game

so u can gem more ressil

and use more pve gear

gargol in wotlk

is the way how the ability should work

[tropic schooner]

hm yea interesting seems so

found a mage priest being engi JC

but most are BS

[lime light]

do u remember

if engi gloves haste enchant

is a proc or on use

cuz i dont rly remember

iam rly curious

how they gonna deal with witnergrasp

cuz my brain is super big, but i cant see a good

[rare willow]

engi gloves was an on-use i think

[lime light]

option to make it work

[rare willow]

i think it was like the trinket but i cant remember if you could stack both at the same time in wrath.

or was that cata?

was wrath the little rockets you shot out of your gloves?

i might be full of shit and misremembering.

[lime light]

ye

its super good early on

i think it was around 2-3k dmg

without gcd

[stray sigil]

arent glvoes shit from engi

a cata or mop thing

[rare willow]

90% sure it was wrath. im almost positive i had them on my mage way way way back in the day

[haughty compass]

Can’t find it anywhere, but can we send Alts conquest yet?

[blissful belfry]

i dont think so, they just removd the conquest cap

no conquest box BoA yet

[stray sigil]

i remember the on use gloves that gave main stat was from cata

pretty sure was belt/ cloak in wotlk

not even sure about parachute prob was wotlk

[rare willow]

so it looks like gloves was +haste on a 1 minute cd OR long range rocket on a 45s cd

waist was nitro boost OR temporary invisibility

and back was parachute

[tropic schooner]

its on use

[tropic schooner]

no

nitro boots are boots

think 24 crit + nitro

or 12 crit, forgot

not sure if invis was a thing may have been cant remember that one

[rare willow]

i think it might have been changed, cuz wowiki has it listed as belt for wotlk.

[tropic schooner]

yea thats wrong

its boots

[rare willow]

i lied

i had it backwards

4.0.3 in cata changed it from boots TO belt

you're right

[tropic schooner]

yea makes sense

[rare willow]

and a 5 minute cd lol

[viscid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-social-credit-score-meme-john-xina-gif-23649557

[haughty compass]

Truth comes out

Meanwhile I’m stuck at 2k like a dog always

I should prob play more than 10 games a week

[viscid remnant]

Never

Give

Up

[safe heart]

I think if I only played 10 games a week I'd be closer to glad than I am right now ngl

[bitter harness]

yeah ok i see now

[grand mesa]

@clear pulsar u still getting compactunitframes:1122 lua errors? i tried turning off bigdebuffs and still got the lua errors when i turned on friendly nameplates

[tiny oar]

Hello chatters

Hope u have a good day and el patron bless u all 🙏

[clear pulsar]

Not sure, I just stopped trying to turn them on

But yeah bugsack/taint log called it a bigdebuffs issue, but I think it's something blizzard changed in 9.2 cuz it just kept happening and pointing to diff addons after I disabled bigdebuffs

[clear pulsar]

On 9.2.5

[viscid remnant]

make everyone have max gear ? is that so hard

blizzard will always be annoying like this i guess

i love when a 1600 ape outgears me and gets half of my hp bar in 1 global pog

[tiny oar]

[viscid remnant]

Idk they will pull some other bullshit

Covenant power

Or something

No way of knowing

[tender lantern]

Are there any balance druids here?

[grand mesa]

Yeah I gave up having them on in pve. Oh well

Odds we get some tuning after awc?

[worthy carbon]

how much haste and mastery do i want as resto?

[tender lantern]

Hey I just wanted to ask a few questions about pvp if that's okay

Well, I've been trying to play the pvp adn I have a hard time really winning

First question I would start with I guess, is when do you cyclone/root people?

[grand mesa]

Everyone’s alittle diff. But you def want some bit of mastery compared to prior seasons where you barely stacked any. I personally stack a ton like 15-16% or so. Looking at high rates Druids on ladder they’re like anywhere from 11-15% depending on their personal preferences or whatever they just got with gear

[tender lantern]

I try to cc people when they're attacking my healer

but most of the times it just says immune

Yeah

[kind bane]

Is feral better than balance like opening and bursting using all ur cds I love balance but it shoots random shit to other people or heals too much

[tender lantern]

Yeah but then when I try to kill someone

when they get too low they pop their defensive cd

then I just can't damage them at all

[signal arrow]

I personally think it doesn't matter a whole lot haste / mastery are both good stats for healing haste helps you get CC off easier because your cast time is less mastery is probably more heal throughput if you have all your hots out I personally have 10% mastery and 23% haste

[tender lantern]

Yeah but if I cyclone them when they use their offensive cd

they usually trinket

so I use it again

then after they pop the defensives

I can't really cyclone them

[clear pulsar]

Yeah getting them to use trinket and defensives is a good thing

[tender lantern]

I don't really have the 4pc yet

I'm a new player to wow in general

[signal arrow]

Then you're at a disadvantage in the first place most PvP players will have 4 piece and it's a big dmg boost to almost all classes you can buy Conquest gear and turn it into tier pieces with the catalyst

[tender lantern]

I have the legendary crafted, the unity belt from questing, honor gear almost upgraded

[grand mesa]

Do you know where to catalyze tier gear?

[tender lantern]

Yeah

I only have one conquest gear though

and to get conquest gear I either would have to wait months

[grand mesa]

I would focus on acquiring conquest pieces to tier asap

[tender lantern]

or actually win

[signal arrow]

Very much this

That will be a huge powerspike

[grand mesa]

So for cq in your situation. I would suggest you join yolo rbgs

[tender lantern]

random bgs?

[grand mesa]

Rated

[signal arrow]

Rated BG's

[tender lantern]

But you don't get conquest for losing do you

[signal arrow]

Yeah but in a BG you are only 1/10'th

of the power

in an arena you are 1/2 or 1/3

[grand mesa]

It’s a group of 10 so less personal responsibility for you

[clear pulsar]

How many games of rated arena have you played? @tender lantern

[grand mesa]

And if you win you’ll get like 300-400 conquest

[tender lantern]

On this character I dunno

like 40

on the previous one moer

[clear pulsar]

You just gotta play more

Eventually you'll drop enough mmr to start playing against people who also have no gear

And you'll start winnin some games

[tender lantern]

I'm at like 650

[clear pulsar]

Also do the weekly quests for conquest

[tender lantern]

I don't drop at that point do I

[clear pulsar]

BG weekly quests, solo shuffle weekly quests, etc

[signal arrow]

Nope

You don't lose rating until 1400 I think

Or maybe 1200 now or something since they changed the rating breakpoints

[grand mesa]

Every week there’s a bunch of weeklies that give conquest

[clear pulsar]

You should try recording your games if you want more direct advice idk

[grand mesa]

The 5 solo shuffles and 15 solo shuffle weeklies give you a ton irrespective of winning. Just have to play. This week is arena and skirmish weekly. So that’s a lot as well

[tender lantern]

I'm also lost on targetting macros

I don't know whether to use focus or arena123 or what

[clear pulsar]

You're thinking about too much

You should focus on learning to line up your damage and using your spells as they are

People make focus or arena123 all work

Just pick one and play

[tender lantern]

But with arena123 I need to have 123 for cyclone and solar beam and stuff don't I

[grand mesa]

I think targeting macros like that make things much easier yea. But idk I feel like you should focus on other things first

[signal arrow]

I don't have targeting macros and wouldn't say I'm super low rated 😄 it's definetly nice to have but it won't make or break your progression in arena that being said might be good to get used to it now if you wanna use it later on anyways to build muscle memory but you don't NEED it to get to decent rating

[clear pulsar]

Disgusting pve healer bm hunter abuser for sure

[signal arrow]

Lol

[clear pulsar]

But regardless just get your head down and play games, get used to the idea that you'll lose, record your games, get conquest thru the means we told you

Everybody targets things differently

[signal arrow]

Why you so mean face I don't even play with BM

[clear pulsar]

No one can rly tell you what will be the best for you so just pick one, or test it out see what makes you feel better idk

[clear pulsar]

Fury warrior abuser

[grand mesa]

Survival

I actually don’t think fury is like that insane tbh

I think the only reason why they litter 1900-2k on my alt is because they get buttholed by rogues the moment they get any higher

[clear pulsar]

You play the only healer that can kite warriors ofc

[grand mesa]

I actually despise fury rsham on my holy priest

They keep kicking my MC

[signal arrow]

Imagine holy priest is most OP healer in the meta you climb to 2400 anyways beating all the meta Hpriest comps and you still get shit on by some low feral druid

[grand mesa]

My partner is a dh face how scummy am I

I also found out he keyboard turns some

😂😂😂

[signal arrow]

big oof ^^

[clear pulsar]

Listen I dont even play ok?

You cant shit on my cr thats a bad look

[signal arrow]

last 2's game I did was a month ago kekW

[clear pulsar]

One of you fucks check-pvpd me lol

[grand mesa]

What’s that

I’m kidding. But I doubt it was either of us lmao

Isn’t your toons name diff than discord name

[clear pulsar]

Yeye not one ofyou 2

[signal arrow]

Maybe I did, maybe I didn't

[clear pulsar]

One of you people in this discord

[grand mesa]

Facegotcake

Or something

[clear pulsar]

I mean I post screenshots all the time

In the pve channels

[grand mesa]

Ya that’s true

[clear pulsar]

I'm gonna stream or record next time I queue

So you see what I'm working with

Also

I would mop the floor with both of you at the same time if I didnt play at 170ms

FACTS

[grand mesa]

Lmaoooo

I didn’t shit on your cr!

This is very friendly fire here

[signal arrow]

I mean it was actually me tbh XD I didn't think you'd have the page open to catch me

[grand mesa]

Always assume the worst with face. He knows everything man

He’ll catch ya

[signal arrow]

seems accurate haha

[clear pulsar]

Hm how do I say this

You kinda played yourself

[signal arrow]

how so? ^^

[clear pulsar]

I just opened my own check-pvp page to see how long ago someone had checked me and try to figure out how long it'd been since I played arena

And it said updated 1 day ago

I didnt know you actually just checked it right now

[signal arrow]

and you wouldn't have known if I didn't say anything XD

[clear pulsar]

I was just referring to it being checked yesterday cuz I havent played any arena in at least 6 weeks

[signal arrow]

but I chose that it doesn't matter if you knwo 😄

[clear pulsar]

So it had to be someone here

[signal arrow]

but that wasn't even me then lul

I see what you mean now 😄

[clear pulsar]

[grand mesa]

Face is eye of Sauron man

[signal arrow]

But I sometimes checkpvp people I play keys with just for fun lul

so maybe it was just someone you played with

[clear pulsar]

You're a 2s andy wtf

I shall never take shit from you you rat

[signal arrow]

who

oh me yeah lol

[clear pulsar]

[signal arrow]

I only boost guildies and friends in 3's

for the 1800

but maybe later in the season I'll try to push

[grand mesa]

What’s wrong with 2s

[clear pulsar]

Nothing wrong with 2s

Just wrong with gloating about 2s rating

[signal arrow]

not gloating but you were coming for my Jugular and I went for the rating insult as a defense mechanism

Plus my highest 3's rating is higher than yours

just not doing 3's this season

[grand mesa]

👍

[signal arrow]

That's pretty fair

[obtuse bramble]

agreed

[clear pulsar]

I called you a bm abuser but you said you dont play with bm

So did it hit home or not

I think you are a lil bm abuser on the side

[tardy hare]

Dude facing outlaw

Is the most aids shit ever

As fury

Its so infuriating

[grand mesa]

Yeah I believe it

[signal arrow]

Nah ^^ my Survival mate only swapped to BM for like 2 games because he got annoyed when we had to face BM couple games in a row and we lost both games XD

[clear pulsar]

Man has no regard for his feral brethren

[signal arrow]

He swapped back to survival real fast

[clear pulsar]

Plays with the biggest feral counter in existence so unfair

[signal arrow]

that's true 😅 Survival vs Feral is free win

[obtuse bramble]

kek

[flat imp]

we need another overall dmg buff by like 10% hehe

[forest kite]

When can i start going with my Feral for pvp? I feel like the damage is really bad (currently level 32)

[clear pulsar]

Most of the relevant information and discussion about wow is for end-game i.e. max level content

That's the main focus of the game so no one rly knows about how specs stack up in lower level content

[forest kite]

😢

[elfin radish]

resto druid for 2s doesnt go full haste anymore?

[blissful belfry]

People put so much effort into stats, so little effort into playin well

[signal arrow]

Mastery offers more healing in ideal scenarios but haste is still good stat to get CC off but ultimately it's not super important

[elfin radish]

more about being nooba nd dont wanna gimp myself too much 😄

[signal arrow]

You don't gimp yourself by having too much haste

that's for sure

[elfin radish]

true

[blissful belfry]

stats dont really gimp you tbh. Just take pvp pieces with either haste or matery as off stat and u are fine

[signal arrow]

Very much this

Just avoid crit if you can and you're good

[hushed bluff]

how can i track kidney at the bottom of my screen. Just a single square in arena

[tiny oar]

Can make a separate omnibar that just tracks kidney only

[hushed bluff]

nice i didnt know you could do that

[grand mesa]

This

[hushed bluff]

ty for the help.. i set it up

[grand mesa]

How big did u make it 😂

[hushed bluff]

as big as it would allow

lol

[grand mesa]

Lmao

[stray sigil]

lol noob

[tiny oar]

Rofl

[clear pulsar]

Ok but dont rub it in?

I'm owning the solo shuffle ladder

Queue it up bitch

[stray sigil]

i hate shuffle

i have to do every

everything

heal cc kill

aids

[clear pulsar]

Cope

[tiny oar]

Bit cope

I got close to 2200 but games so dog I dont even want to put the effort into elite

[grand mesa]

Never give up!

[tiny oar]

Ya like

The sweat I would have to put in for feral aff 2400 is like

Fucking insanity rn

[stray sigil]

ya fuck this ssn

i wont even push 2.4

we go next xpac

im a mount farmer now

[tiny oar]

🙏

[hushed bluff]

what do you not like about the season?

[grand mesa]

The games are super sweaty man

[tiny oar]

Only half the specs just fucking bodying me thru every cd trade in existence

[hushed bluff]

fury warrior for example?

[grand mesa]

Yungmonk has been terrorizing me

Kyrian WW. Just holds W. Runs through all my buttons. I die lmao

I’m going inner peace next time so I can’t get ropped

[tiny oar]

Yea furys are just absolutely disgusting

[stray sigil]

i dont like feral this expac

i dont like the meta

i dont like hpriests

[tiny oar]

This is actually big brain strats vs ww LOL

[stray sigil]

i dont like dying thru everything in bear

[tiny oar]

It sounds so troll but I think its right

[grand mesa]

I actually think it’s so bad against necro tho if they go ur partner

But for kyrian I think it’s 100% possibly the play lol

[tiny oar]

Just drag them to fucking narnia and tranq

Lmao yup big dam tranq get fucked wws

[grand mesa]

Kyrian go is every 2 right?

[stray sigil]

its like

1.45

[tiny oar]

1.5

[grand mesa]

Lines up with inner peace

[stray sigil]

if they play mika

[grand mesa]

Ah

[stray sigil]

but ww into druid

u just die

it is unfort

not much u can do

it is free win

[grand mesa]

Yeah

[tiny oar]

Yes all of this true very sad

[stray sigil]

tranq is piss vs ww

[tiny oar]

Maybe I will make a rdruid alt 220 ilvl 1 leggo no tier get 1800

Show the idiots on worldofpvp that gear is a crutch

[grand mesa]

Once they actually do conquest boxes

Wildbrowth is coming back

Alt druid

[tiny oar]

Is that not a thing this ssn yet?

[grand mesa]

Nope

😡

If they remove conquest camp and add the spoils of war buff that should always be the tilt they add the boxes imo

[tiny oar]

Ya makes sense

[blissful belfry]

guildie said i cant get glad so ima need to Q uo fuckin 3s and show em fools. ffs

[stray sigil]

find a bm hunter

collect free glad

[grand mesa]

Surely there will be some tuning after awc

[stray sigil]

XD

[blissful belfry]

im a boomy tho

no free gald for me

[clear pulsar]

They wont just dump tuning on the last 3-4 weeks of a patch lol

[blissful belfry]

i wonder how ez it is as boomy dh X still

and is shammy still best healer for boomy dh?

shammy weak side now ya

[tropic schooner]

still time to learn resto

and start tbc

free glad

[blissful belfry]

i usually play resto in arena, but mostly 2s

i get my 2.1 early season and dont step in ever again

but now im triggered so i gotta do some efforts

[grand mesa]

When does shape shifting no longer cost mana. I’ll play that version of classic lol

[stray sigil]

i think in wotlk

its not nearly as bad

i know im def playing wotlk

[blissful belfry]

yeah wotlk will be lit

[sage apex]

planning to have some fun with my boomkin on some random bg, i am night fae, is the 2nd leggo for celestial spirits worth?

[tropic schooner]

no

maybe mop?

mana is less restrictive in wotlk for sure tho

but spam shifting will still let you go oom,esp if you cast other things like heals/clones

[safe heart]

What do you mean?
Do you mean like .. is it worth it to use unity ?

Cuz uh obviously 2 legos is better than 1

[sage apex]

just making sure since it shorten the duration of convoke for exceptional spells

[safe heart]

Ah okay, yeah I fairly certain that convoking more often is better than slightly more full moon potential

[haughty compass]

Would feral frost mage be any good?

3s

[plush narwhal]

I mean anything works up to a point. It’s just how hard do you want to work for it.

[plush narwhal]

Fire does a lot better but I can see frost with fingers supporting ferals dumb sickle damage

[signal arrow]

LOOL did you pick up a star run into them and starsurge? XD

[clear pulsar]

Cheese you say?

This was after I killed skyfury too

[signal arrow]

But did you use a defensive? 👀 Barkskin lines up for vesper totem every time

[clear pulsar]

It wasnt on me

It was on my rsham

I can bear it and bark yeah sure

But my bite does half the totem's hp so I cant kill it fast enough even

[signal arrow]

Ah that's sadge then idk what you would even do as shaman with 1.5 min on your defensive maybe alternate fleshcraft and Astral shift

[signal arrow]

Yeah in my experience if the ele shaman plays it well it's difficult to kill it before he can trigger it

[tiny oar]

Did they try just lining the bolt or

[hushed bluff]

Anyone have WA for hibernate/scare beast arena etc

[signal arrow]

What would a hibernate weak aura do? Show if a target is able to be hibernated or not?

[hushed bluff]

Just to keep me from getting hibernated when I’m being blind. I wanna know when they cast it so I can shift out immediately.

[signal arrow]

ah so like a loud noise when they cast it or a text or what do you want it to show? I could probably try to write one real quick

[hushed bluff]

A little cast bar that I want to put over my character. Scare beast and hibernate would be the words shown. Not an icon but the cast bar.

That would be awesome! I’m a WA noob. I tried to do it but it was screwed up lol.

[signal arrow]

Not super good with weak auras either ^^ but I'll try my best to see if I can get it done

[hushed bluff]

😊 ty!

[hushed bluff]

Oh my!

That’s a big one lol

[clear pulsar]

[signal arrow]

Eh I wrote a weak aura issue is I can't really test it XD need to be in arena and have hibernate cast on me could just test it in a wargame

[clear pulsar]

I went up like 200 rating today are you happy for me? @signal arrow

[viscid remnant]

good job brazil

[clear pulsar]

Thank israeli

Hard fought

With my pve gear

[signal arrow]

Noice man! 🥳 I'm happy for all the druids who are climbing

[clear pulsar]

No no no

Only for me

Wtf

Them other druids be trying to hibernate me like they have no sense of ethics

It's ridiculous

[signal arrow]

Lmao I landed a hibernate on an enemy resto druid in 3's yesterday whenever that happens to me I just feel like I got outplayed so hard

Getting hibernated is the worst

[clear pulsar]

You breaking the code bro

Dont do that

[signal arrow]

They be doing it to me too bro and then I feel like a fool now I started dishing back out

[clear pulsar]

[tiny oar]

Lmao #pvp chat fucking multicultural bro ROFL

[tiny oar]

Yea happened to me in a game last week was zoned out wasnt paying attention for a sec. I was so pissed I trinketed instantly

[signal arrow]

hahaha I feel that I sometimes mood trinket that too

I got my guy with the full cyclone into full hibernate into full bash and his mate was dead

[tiny oar]

I dont even press hib on other rdruids anymore, just ferals to piss them off

[signal arrow]

eh when I try to hibernate feral it's kick -> stun -> then I can finally get it off and healer just dispells it kekW without cross CC I feel like it's not worth the effort

[tiny oar]

Yea that's only if they're like going my partner and my partner is going healer

[fallow root]

Never done feral PvP, but frenzyband looks fun, I wonder if adaptive swarm effects the DoT

[clear pulsar]

It doesnt

[fallow root]

Wow that would be fun if it did

[clear pulsar]

Frenzyband works like an ignite so it doesnt get buffed directly by anything

What increases frenzyband damage is buffing the builders that create that ignite

And builders do fuck all damage

Frenzyband isnt as good as it may sound

[fallow root]

Yeah I guess more of a PvE thing

I wonder if circle of life and death is good

[clear pulsar]

It's ok, you dont really have enough uptime and globals to maintain every dot on every target but it makes you FF and sickle do their dmg faster so it's more bursty, some people seem to like it

[fallow root]

Cool thanks

[grand mesa]

Same

But that’s also cause I’m so happy to not see a holy priest

[safe heart]

Play curio necro for your multi bleed fantasy

[hollow matrix]

is kyrian boomie good in 2ws?

[stray sigil]

wtf bro

[flat imp]

Yeah. You piss us off. Sincerely,feral.

[mellow granite]

Boomie generally kinda sucks in 2s outside of probs convoke + burst cheese one shots

Even with a dps you’d just lose if they lived ur go

[misty shuttle]

folks for 1v1 or 1v2 as feral and kiting, resto or guardian affinity? I find guardian is great to survive burst but in a longer fight wondering if resto heals better, especially as I'm using draught

[tiny oar]

💚

[stray sigil]

in arenas or world pvp

[misty shuttle]

arenas

and I guess rbg

[forest kite]

I keep running out of energy and just autoing. Anyone else run into this problem?

[misty shuttle]

outside of cooldowns and berserk, definitely

can switch bear form and maul when low energy

[forest kite]

im level 38 atm

[misty shuttle]

ooh

[forest kite]

and i feel so weak xD

im confused

I see all these other people in my bg doing hella damage

and im just here looking all cute

[misty shuttle]

see any other ferals doing crazy dmg?

different classes are not balanced well at below 60

well not at 60 either, but especially below

[forest kite]

So feral is not a good class?

[misty shuttle]

I don't know

was a genuine question

feral are insanely good at 60

don't know about their balance in lower levels though

[forest kite]

hmm are you good with feral pvp?

[stray sigil]

feral is not good low lvl

u need talents and shit

[clear pulsar]

Feral is a spec with downtime

You'll have downtime

You dont fill every moment of your time spamming damage spells

If you think that's a problem then look to other specs

[forest kite]

Can one of you show me a little to do when pvping? Cause i think im doing something wrong xD

[clear pulsar]

No

You're missing tons of spells that make feral what it is in max lvl pvp

Nothing anyone can show you will be relevant

Cuz you're low lvl

[forest kite]

i see

So i should just level to 60 then start to pvp?

[tropic schooner]

60 is when the game starts

[clear pulsar]

Everything in wow is based on being max lvl

[forest kite]

it just takes to long xD

[clear pulsar]

I mean

It's your playtime you do what you want

By all means do bgs while you're leveling if you like it

But there is not much anyone can say to help you

If you're worried about performance and being competitive, leveling content isnt it

[forest kite]

i just want to pvp

[clear pulsar]

You most likely are playing bad and could be having more impact on the leveling bgs too

Ok you arent missing many base spells like I thought

Just a ton of rank 2s and cyclone

But the lvl 40 talent is huge

[fallow root]

If you wanna do leveling BGs play MM hunter, Fury warrior with double crusader enchants or arcane mage.

[haughty compass]

2060 moonkin priest. Getting there boys!

[lime light]

disgusting pig

https://tenor.com/view/razorback-hog-pig-riding-wild-pig-running-gif-17002611

[misty shuttle]

how can u kill hunter as feral?

1v1

[livid wasp]

deal huge amounts of damage

[misty shuttle]

how tho? just fought one and every time I apply dots he removes them :S

[livid wasp]

make him remove shit dots and when he does apply strong dots

[misty shuttle]

why would he remove shit dots lol

[livid wasp]

dunno

most hunters suck

[misty shuttle]

what is the cooldown on the dot removal?

[livid wasp]

25 sec?

[signal arrow]

15 seconds

[misty shuttle]

whaat the

[signal arrow]

if he is survival even more often since he has mending bandage too

[misty shuttle]

yeh he was surv

[signal arrow]

literally no way you kill a good hunter as feral

Especially not survival

[misty shuttle]

.>

damnson

[livid wasp]

if you switch to bite spec?

[misty shuttle]

mmm maybe I should

though necro is good fun

[signal arrow]

Probably increases your chances but if the pet is gonna be on you it's still gonna leave the game open to convoke RNG

And Convoke is probably worse into any other matchup XD

[livid wasp]

root negates convoke abilities still doesnt it

[misty shuttle]

knockbacks do too

and surv have a nasty one of them

and also the CC immune trinket doesn't work for knockbacks which sucks

[livid wasp]

isnt it best to play circle against any hunter too

if you play dots

[signal arrow]

I mean maybe if you play circle you can get him with the sickle cheese burst

and since he removes your dots anyways that they last less long is not really an issue

[misty shuttle]

wouldn't he see that coming and just turtle it?

[signal arrow]

Might actually make sense

[signal arrow]

That's why it's a cheese XD

I think you don't have a reliable way to win against a good surv hunter so might aswell try to get cheesy wins I guess

[tropic schooner]

@lime light ???

trying to yoink

my money

I see how it is

[lime light]

nah

just selling

all my consums

i had prepared

[tropic schooner]

no worries

I undercut you

and got undercut again myself

[lime light]

its ok

[tropic schooner]

you also undercut me

[lime light]

going ally anyway

i think

[tropic schooner]

with optimistic 24h postings

woaw

ally

[lime light]

i dont even know

for how much

i posted it

i have the addon

thats do eveyrhting

[tropic schooner]

7g83s

[lime light]

i just press post

[tropic schooner]

netherbloom is expensive atm

but I see how it is you wanna leave me

[lime light]

idk

i wanna play horde

but some ppl gona play ally

[tropic schooner]

if its cause of racials

[lime light]

nothing holds me on horde anymore

[tropic schooner]

id wait

[lime light]

i rly dont care about racial

human is only good after few ssns

[tropic schooner]

and if they dont change ti

[lime light]

but how u wanna change it

[tropic schooner]

dunno

[lime light]

only make it 3 min cd / stuns only

[tropic schooner]

they announced that they look into racial balancing

obv nothing clarified

[lime light]

if they make it 3 min cd still good

stuns only still good

for a dps ofc

cuz 3 min cd for a healer

[tropic schooner]

stuns only Id say

its bad

[lime light]

gonna suck

and rdru on horde is already better

so priest is

disc priest that is

[viscid remnant]

Ally op pog

Can u have horde and alliance same realm in woltk

Prob not iguess

[lime light]

cannot

[tropic schooner]

on pvp

[stray sigil]

get his trinket

and then u triple stun with like zerk ff

should die

[livid wasp]

if hes dumb enough to trink before that

[misty shuttle]

can they turtle while stunned?

[stray sigil]

no

[signal arrow]

Nightelf > Tauren

love shadowmeld kekW

[stray sigil]

meld overrated ngl

i think i like stomp better to kill

[tropic schooner]

was about tbc/wotlk

not retail

[signal arrow]

oh nvmd then lul

[tropic schooner]

id prolly agree with meld overrated ngl tho, not because I dont think meld is good, but because for most people meld isnt that great cause they simply arent good enough to use it properly

[rare willow]

im going night elf for next week. lol. i cannot wait for shadowmeld ... ive been troll since wod and troll racial is such garbage lmfao

[foggy portal]

Do any ferals owl weave in arena or rbg

[safe heart]

No

In pvp I would say as a feral, there's almost no reason ever to not be guardian aff

I'm pretty sure that owlweaving pve even is literally like a super low prio global filler

[grand mesa]

We can wear shoes!!!

It’s not even about meld I know for a fact I won’t do sick melds consistently. Maybe accidentally. But I get to be pretty 😂😂😂

Lose in style

[haughty compass]

Yea but you can shadow meld flight form in wpvp / wquesting

[grand mesa]

Oh true

My raid guild is kinda annoyed by this cause it kinda fucks with guild achievements

But whatever 😂

[rare willow]

yes! 99% of wow is just looking better than your opponent.

i dont plan on shadowmelding blinds or anything, but shadowmeld rake stun on a rogue is going to be so sweet. gonna love that so much

[grand mesa]

Meld drinks for me

Instead of aimlessly dry humping the pillar for x seconds trying desperately to get a sip

Lol

[rare willow]

lol

[tiny oar]

Meld just to get out of combat from piece of fucking shit Kevins oozling

[safe heart]

Kevin = Predator Drone Deployed

[grand mesa]

Holy fuck these changes

They nerfed echoing

Blasphemy no longer stuns

[rare willow]

yeah lots of nerfs to not-druids and things that have been doing well against druids

[sleek ravine]

2.1 in 2's as venthyr bear

we rise

[paper crane]

[grand mesa]

Oh that’s so true

We hate Kevin

[tiny oar]

I need a fucking cancelaura kevin beo on god

[grand mesa]

i remember when palumor found me cause i swarmed out of the gate open

[tiny oar]

I prehot for a rake maim clone go and I'm just in cmb for fucking 15s

[grand mesa]

and he just saw my kevin

as i was stealth

lmao

[tiny oar]

Ya that's happened to me too rofl

[grand mesa]

now i don't swarm obv lol

would be nice tho to get those swarms rolling tho

[tiny oar]

Yea its rly nice to go into game with 5 stack but

Vs stealth teams not worth 4 sure

[grand mesa]

ya

u saw the nerfs lake?

[tiny oar]

Nah what happened

[grand mesa]

big nerfs across board to stuff

pvp tuning

resolve doesn't affect kicks

anymore

etc

https://www.wowhead.com/news/upcoming-class-tuning-coming-in-patch-9-2-5-tank-threat-buffs-beast-mastery-327190

[tiny oar]

Damn that's wild I rly like the trinket set buff

[haughty compass]

Lol grats dude. What partner?

[tiny oar]

That's kinda nutty lol gz

[grand mesa]

same

[haughty compass]

Even the fastidious one? Well that’s a meta changer

[blissful belfry]

i am thinking of trying out feral instead of boomy/resto in arena

necrolord

are there recent guides/ressoruces

@clear pulsar

[stray sigil]

wat u need boss

[barren elk]

Hey everyone, rdruid here. Running necrolord I was wondering how is convoke? I might poke around and see if I can deal some good damage

[tiny oar]

U will do more dmg with swarmed moonfire alone than if u used every convoke offensively, and necro is way better healing throughput and survivability than nfae.

[blissful belfry]

errythin. im just hittin dummy tryna get a feel for combo points and get the habits to have dots rolling

havent crafted a leggo yet

i looked up axtin on twitch to see talents and thingies

i seen he play floral recycling in 2s double dps as potency

intriguing

[barren elk]

@tiny oar I’ve noticed I do a good amount of damage when I stack moonfire and the bear dot with the cat dot with swarm. I just haven’t ever used convoke so I was a little interested. 🙂

[clear pulsar]

You cant have a bear dot and a cat dot at the same time

As resto '-'

Also the bear dot does practically no damage

[barren elk]

I’ve had two dots at the same time though I’ll look at it again @clear pulsar

(The bear and cat)

[clear pulsar]

The bear dot is given by guardian affinity

There are 2 cat dots both given by feral affinity

You cant have both at once

You should def read over your talents and spellbook and be more certain of what spells you do have and what they do

[barren elk]

Ah no I’m certain what I have I just miss understood that the trash is considered as two different dots when they are done in different forms

It’s a visual bug thanks for the correction

Thrash

If I can get it to do it again I’ll take a photo for y’all lol

[clear pulsar]

Then you should get used to feral affinity before you decide to give up the massive healing of swarm for convoke dmg

Cuz convoke wont do any dmg as guardian affinity anyways

And it's rly just a for fun pick when you're smurfing styling on people worse than you

[grand mesa]

u can watch some of mmarkers stuff

he does alto of convoke stuff

but 100% just styling on lower rated folks relative to him

he does feral and boomkin convoke

[stray sigil]

na dont do that lol

he was playinng resto prob or some dumv shit again

[blissful belfry]

yeah i mean, 100p he has resto aff when usin floral

but i was still findin it weird

what potency u use otherwise

[tiny oar]

Floral giga nerfed in pvp

[stray sigil]

tf swarm bite

or the rake one i suppose if u play sr only mayb

@blissful belfry

[blissful belfry]

kk

[clear pulsar]

Pre nerf floral with a draught rejuv was def big

[clear pulsar]

To be honest the agi proc on getting healed by others one

Is probably 3rd best lol

Sudden ambush is so random and idk

Never felt good using it even in pve

[stray sigil]

i like sudden

rake is actually pretty big dot

i liked it when i played it

felt like more dam overall than bite when u bite like 3-4 times a game

[flat imp]

Yes.

Yesssss.

[split pollen]

i wonder if that will affect fastidious resolve too

[safe heart]

i think fastidious would be okay since its a 3m cd but yeah echoing needs to fucking go

its absurd not being able to kick casters anymore

[split pollen]

i think the buff each trinket gave in game was the same and fastidious just gave 2 stacks but could be wrong

[flat imp]

nah,as it says only echoing resolve

fastidious is an on-use trinket,has 2 stacks but has a 3 minute cooldown

[clear pulsar]

The 2 trinkets definitely give the same buff

The same spell id

[flat imp]

yeah but its not removed by anything

[clear pulsar]

So they're either changing it

[flat imp]

only by you casting

[split pollen]

when they last changed echoing resolve the language was just about echoing but the changes affected both trinkets (the root change)

[clear pulsar]

And adding a new spell id

Or that applies to both

[flat imp]

they wont change it,fastidious resolve isnt even broken,its a 3 minute cooldown trinket

[clear pulsar]

Says you

[flat imp]

...ok

if you are losing to that,its your fault

[split pollen]

it's prolly more collateral damage than intended since it isn't mentioned

[flat imp]

its not even broken

like wow people would have 2 freecasts per 3 minutes... save your cooldowns then lol

[clear pulsar]

Literally no one said anything about it being broken

Or losing to it

????

What are you talking about bud

[split pollen]

ya the way it works now is both trinkets give the same buff and when they changed it last time both trinkets changed even tho they only mentioned one

same will probably happen again come tuesday

[flat imp]

tbh who cares,only stuff like convoke druids would use fastidious

who tf plays convoke anyway

you're toxic trash

[unreal jewel]

[flat imp]

stop deleting my messages lmao

[tiny oar]

Zug zug run at em 🙏

[clear pulsar]

Gottem

Hi life

[flat imp]

for stating a fact

[tiny oar]

Hey life

[flat imp]

you're toxic garbage bro

[tiny oar]

Grats on the new job

[unreal jewel]

Ty

[tropic schooner]

Relax

[flat imp]

nah

theres no reason for what he says 😄

[tiny oar]

Fam this is a casual pvp channel nothing matters sry

[unreal jewel]

I think we can all be civil here

People pvp because hitting NPC's is too hard for them right?

Safe space

[tiny oar]

😡

[tropic schooner]

Didn't keep up with the talk no clue who's right or wrong, but don't need to insult

[tropic schooner]

Correct

[unreal jewel]

Thought so

[clear pulsar]

Nope

People pvp cuz putting up with 2 little apes is easier than putting up with 19 little apes

[unreal jewel]

Idk Glyph

Just these non r1 players ya know

xd

[tiny oar]

Okay maybe I was dropped on the head a couple times but pvp is bis compared to raiding garbo minigame

[unreal jewel]

@tiny oar I'll have you know it takes some guilds MONTHS to clear content that's a marathon

The minigame is you losing your 1min arena at 1k

[clear pulsar]

What the fuck type of marathons are you running

That take months?

That's not healthy for your body bro

[unreal jewel]

I raided with @vestal citrus can you blame me?

[clear pulsar]

O

I'm sorry

[unreal jewel]

ty 😢

Parsed worse than me 😢

(Don't search that up)

LOL TRUE THO

Me, My alt, Robo, Robo's alt, Binners

In my head it died when I quit at start of bfa

[tiny oar]

Bro I could hit 1800 feral aff rdru fucking naked u wot m8

[river solstice]

[clear pulsar]

Uh stream it?

[tiny oar]

Did I stutter cyon the spirit of gorecki is in my soul I CANT BE BROKEN

[clear pulsar]

O no you mean like in-game naked

Nevermind

[surreal heron]

?

[tiny oar]

LOL

Love u f2f buddy

[clear pulsar]

@flat imp here buddy I drew it up for you ok?

[flat imp]

I don't care

[clear pulsar]

But my work of art

It took like 2 mins to make can someone appreciate this?

I even made it colorful

[tiny oar]

Wtf am I even looking at LOL

[clear pulsar]

Doesnt matter can you just say it's nice?

[tiny oar]

Its rly nice face u did a great job

[clear pulsar]

Thanks lake I love u fam

[tiny oar]

[tropic schooner]

Why is the colour in the circles below not connected to the colours of the underline?!

[surreal heron]

not enough brain cells

[clear pulsar]

I lost track of what I was doing cuz I was sending missions on the adventure table at the same time

And didnt even finish it just sent it raw

[tiny oar]

rofl

[lime light]

Thanks for your services Mister Face

we would never achieve that much without you

[signal arrow]

I would still be a hard stuck combatant if it wasn't for face's coaching he's a saint and a genius

[clear pulsar]

El patron give me wisdom

And I share with the dreamgrove

El patron teaching all the cats

[surreal heron]

When did wow get that font

[signal arrow]

I like to think he just wrote it with paint but who knows

[clear pulsar]

You can add any font you want!

[surreal heron]

Impossible

[tropic schooner]

Slander

[lime light]

https://tenor.com/view/narcos-gif-5939715

[tiny oar]

🙂

[viscid remnant]

Hi

[river solstice]

Wh

[viscid remnant]

U have a lot to learn

[tiny oar]

El patron is Father and Mentor to us all.

[lime light]

Randoms call EP who

Good one

[river solstice]

Am good pal. But will always take notes

[river solstice]

[river solstice]

I’m just now seeing this. I believe you all the time lakes

[tiny oar]

🙏 ty cyon I appreciate ur support

[clear pulsar]

Cyon is a dragonslayer he doesnt understand el patron is our leader and professor

I pray for your soul cyon

[viscid remnant]

seems pretty clueless + anime pfp

opinion disregarded

[river solstice]

Yeah I don’t appear in this channel too often. Mostly resto, some feral

Face I see you went back alliance. Just as I did lol

I quit raiding for the time being. So just gonna pvp and do keys

[river solstice]

Always support you lakes! When you gonna carry me to 2100? Am just under 1900

Can double feral

[river solstice]

Kekw says bobcat man. But you don’t know me and idk you so it’s okay sir. I hope you have a good day.