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hmmmmm
mage alone is 50% of rogue mage so this math checks out
yea all immortal with infinite pve dam
feelsgoodman
I don't even mind most rmps any more
these wizards are starting to get obnoxious, though
wizards i guess is more matchup specific thing
i just hate the resolve trinket
mage lock would be dumpstered if it wasnt for abusing resolve
mhmm
i need help with necro feral opener can anyone help, im doing 2s currently.
tf?
tiger fury
ah
Is balance of all things bis for balance even with 4pc?
I remember when this channel was just me glyph n pumper ferals
Now u are tbc raid logger kiosk 
how do you beat surv/prot pala with hpriest
@lime light wanna go afli rdruid later
ur warlock is affli no ?
I think i can have 2 set on lock
Its useless on affi but op on destro
But ue
I wanna Play affi
If u wanna pump Mordor today
Iam down
Cuz the weshter is dogshit
iam always down for mordor ineed cap priester
About to rain
I need cap dk and feral
Could push on dk some 2s
Think on dk, we can win vs everything beside fury
No way to win
Instant lose
mypriester 2k ineed 2.1push
Easly damgurers
but ihave no gear whatsoever its unjust i get the worst vaults in life
Just dont be nf
ye iam kyrian blasting thats how i climbed XD
I think dk
Is overall good
To kill hpriests
Just need to Play silence
And if i grip fly
Its over
The rule nummber one is
Never kick
Not rly
Idk
To warriors 100%
To assa i think its not as bad
Cuz AMS big value
Mm Hunter inta lose
what chance do I even have in 2s against another feral who has 4-set
and are destro locks just really stupid with 4-set
every game ive faced theyve just popped their cds and killed us
priest dies
and I cant help priest
does anyone have a macro with bear form/barkskin that allows you to click out of bear form when needed?
So many immunities
I wonder if against rdruid its always best to do go switches
on the rdruid
I tried killing the arms warr against rdruid/warr but he didnt even need to use blade dance
not blade dance whatever the parry thing is
idk if its cause rdruid has 4-set dunno how op it makes them
yeah dunno I feel like if its cloth/rdruid then sitting on cloth can work but maybe I have to do switches against plates
when do u guys take flourish? I think I’m gonna start running it in vs rmp but I usually lock in germ
@viscid remnant ah i forgot i have a wepaon on lock
dear big dick pumpers, with conquest go for weapon first or armor pieces to complete 4p on feral
🙏 
laterabit
why
have to afk abit
I'm using the 40% bonus damage to rip rake and moonfire for necro feral. Should I be avoiding putting dots on multple people or how does this work? Is there another lego I should be running?
right that makes sense. So no multidotting.
Bin chilling
I'm pretty sure it's realistically never worth over bite at that point
Closest you'll get is swapping targets and wanting to put bleeds on the new one while the old ones are ticking
No?
doesnt matter in most of the cases
what u do outside of goes
u can soft the other target a bit
that is good, if the main target pre kite the go
nothing in general
but ye, mostly u should focus on keeping bleeds on one target
and bite/maim
i know i usedto double bleed vs rdruds
Ye but if u wanna soften up the other target u should prob just shred n bite
It's higher dps
Than the bleed
When it causes you to lose draught
But i guess if the targets are spaced out
Allows you to deliver it more evenly or smth
no
Idk i wouldn't worry about it
Ye and 60% of rip doesn't do much either
Yes but
ye it is
who cares about shreds
shred does no damage
lol
or a clear casting
what 6-7 bites in a 3min game or something
I know
super small amount of dam anyways
and if u double bleed anyways its cuz u wanna win on mana
But i don't think a bite is worth less than half a rip (no draught rip)
Ye but you could bite twice
On a dummy there's no way that's worse dps
Than disabling draught
Like mathematically impossible bite is 2x worse than rip
Same with shred vs rake
Like shred is bad
also remember with necro lego
But not half rake kind of bad
than having 2 rips
u have big uptime
Ye that's true
True
maybe hpriests
in some matchups
but mostly druids
also u get double ms on 2 ppl when u drouble bleed
its a win on mana strat
Well u're not gonna triple bleed
last ssn i double bleed vs rdru ret war

I think it can be good but it probably hurts more often than it helps
u dont mindlessly double bleed every game
tbf i havent played any 3s this season or muych feral
And we can't pretend everyone here can play perfectly
i dont wanna listen to u anymore
so im going off last ssn
u domb
fuk u

wtf
its like almost full s2
come na i q with ur baboon ass
ww lock fun
Why is pvp the only channel with insults 😅
no one insults
cuz we a bunch of friends
like 5 ppl type here
Oh ok

never was
cuz i felt bad for patron
Thank you for welcoming me
tf is mdi
I was planning on staying in arathi basin for days to get the blue set and therefore not getting oneshot in arena
conq gear is also ez now
cuz cap is 1.1k
i legit dont even care about vault anymore
Don’t you think we should be able to choose from Vault pve and pvp separately? I’m more of a pve player and I will likely never pick a pvp item over pve ones in the vault
it was like that in bfa
kind of
u couldnt pick the item
u just were getting one pve and one pvp item
i personally like
the way vault is rn
Soon conquest cap will be enough for full gear
i think
at this point i think vault is at
its peak
u can chose items
and if u dont like any
and tier shoulda been like
I mean tier should just be on conq gear
1 tier piece every week
but a random one
so u can still get 2 legs if bad rng
but atleast have 100% chance on tier

wwrong
that every item has
Or pve sets non usable in pvp ?
almost as if
Too much work for 1 person
To make pvp gear
They're busy pretending to work so when their supervisor checks on them they have 2 nerfs for the season

what weapon for feral, haste or crit?
doesnt matter
but if ur necro go for haste one
nf/kyrian go for crit
but doesnt matter
Why does feral heal so much😂
As healer should I aim for haste versatility or crit versa ?
Definitely not but it still kinda pumps.
Destro feral in 2s and the feral just never dies hahaha.
wait what
i think u are wrong
isnt there 20%
always when there is at least
one healer
in any side
No it's only for healer mirrors
No damp in 2 dps vs DPS heal
At least in S1 that was the case
Stupider*
ok so wait, I need some help in 2's double dps feral / enh shaman. I read everything above about the draught discussion and am still kinda confused what I do in between my 20 second maim goes. If I'm not dotting up the healer am I just going for bites on the kill target? (this is separate from clones and healer CC)
also, when is it ideal to use mighty bash, after maim is done for an extra stun?
You can bash after maim if you think it'll help you secure the kill
Often you can jump to the healer, bash them to set up for your partner's cc, then run to maim the kill target
In this case you could bash into your enhas hex for example
ok cool that makes sense, and what about the time between maim goes, bites?
I'd trust Fuji with what he's said, I havent played in a long time
Just spend combo points on bite in most matchups
and its not worth shredding unless I'm berserking right?
You can refresh rip early sometimes
or capping energy
if u play double dps
the person that is getting attacked
kites
the other one spam dmg
u heal each other
u go in both in a cc go
u dont mutlibleed
u focus on single target damgur
and not tanking damage
do you think necro or nightfae is better double dps?
nothing in general
berserker necro go
is huge
so the FF tf swarm goes are
but NF is also super bursty, but a bit sqish
depends on the rating
we're like 1800 right now
I've played balance most expansion and am pretty used to convoke playstyle. But wanted to give feral a try. My damage is low (feral necro) compared to others but I was multidotting all game
folks, any tips for feral rogue comp vs holypriests and dps?
because we are literally fighting them 8/10 games atm
I am atm
You can probably force trinket with convoke/duel then go for the kill with the other
can't kill their partner though
duel into convoke in the place where guy is dueled
keep killing them but then they get some angel thing and big heal
even while priest CCd
That's lame
when u have 4set its more damgur to play without i think
but yes a lot are playing it
in eu 90% of priests are ress lego
Cring
tell ur rogue to go venthyr 1 dance for cheese
and after drs over and u get trinket with convooke
just duel flag 1 dance
g
g
I hate playing as healer
games take so long
quick win or quick loose
is where it's at
or I get totally wrecked in the same way that I enjoy wrecking resto druids in 2v2
udou
idk double dps games have even taken a long time lately with the amount of crap Hpriests have to stop damage
anyone having succes in arena as guardian after the nerfs ?
As resto: Do you swap out floral recycling for the regrowth conduit with 2p
ja
yes
Pretty sure it's dead
@lime light do you have a hunter?
kinda true
idk its like in 3s
i dont want to spam clone or i ruin ur dmg
so i just afk heal
boring
yeah bore the enemy team to death
do mortal wounds stack like feral and sp?
no mortal strike effects dont stack
Different types of healing reductions can stack
But when it's a healing received reduction on target, the strongest one prevails
Like slows
yeah like absorbs from dk or ferocious woudnds
yeah
So I can turn a conquest piece into a tier piece? how so?
take it to the catalyst thing in zereth mortis
only do it for chest / helm / shoulders / gloves or legs
aka pieces that can be tier set. copy
you could convert any conquest gear to "tier" pieces but you only get the bonuses on those 5 pieces
my buddy said not to buy my conquest weapon because I could more likely get my set piece
i haven't gone through zerith yet. just got back subbed.
ty though for the answers. i think i get it
i would try to get 4pc bonus as fast as possible its probably the biggest upgrade for almost every sepc
spec*
You can only turn 2 items on the catalyst rn, and the total conquest cap is at like 6k almost, so you can buy 2 tier slot armor and a weapon pretty comfortably
so soon?
yea, no idea lol
Real
ask elpatron if he allows it
question: do pvp vendor conduits go higher when u get 2.1 or no
only 400 more rating 
But dumni when iam on
yesure elpatron
Iam gonna start pumping ferel once 4 seter
MonkaW
nothing 2 do in this game except mordor farm
How many pices u have
2 but i can craft 1
ye i understand
Does the 4set make a big difference on Resto? I got the lfr shoulders in vault and crafted none so far. But could go 4-set next reset in my alt RDruid
I guess it does, since tree is big
Is there still the glyph for treant?
I need that
Nvm me asking, I need to be a treant, so 4set it is
4 is pretty good yes
Are you boomy or feral? Feral deletes unholy
Unholy’s heal is for burst damage and does nothing for small ticks of damage, bleeds ignore their armor, and they only have 1 physical defense on a 3 min cd if you’re feral 100% go unholy
feral doesnt really
but maybe its better to go uh dk idk, so much aids with the grips and slows trying to chase shaman
Unholy’s weakest matchups are hunter feral and fury bc it’s all physical damage and they’re weak into sustained physical
I said hunter feral and fury
I’m not
At all
You shouldn’t be losing to unholy as feral
Sustain physical damage that ignores their armor and no way to remove bleeds
Don’t go sham that’s throwing
U are so wrong, iam not even gonna speak anymore
Its one of the most even
Match UPS in the game
I mean it’s pretty self explanatory, unholy is weak into melee, bleeds, physical damage, and burst because they have healing for burst and only 1 physical dam protection
Feral is bleeds that ignore armor and small ticks of damage over time
And big chunk of feral DMG is / can be moonfire and thorns that are magic damage
So swarm is
Unholy doesn’t run spellwarden into feral
And even then thorns and moon fire aren’t what kills unholy it’s bleeds that they have 1 wall on a 3min cd against
Unholy is anti caster and loses to fury hunter and feral pretty consistently
Don’t go sham go unholy and gg you’ll feel a difference
Yesterday a DK killed me during my fleshcraft channel when I baited his kick on nature
Fun times
U argue with el patron
Prepare to face his might
Prepare to face death
Fleshyc doesnt make u immune
Its only like 20% dam reduc
Abit of shield and regen
like wtf
why are destro locks so stupid
There is a first to everything
but atleast still pushed to 2353 so was a successful queue sesh
what the hell honestly
I can smell that elite title
That is well done mr sora
/afk
I got back into the game recently. Maining feral. Finally to a point with gear I can start doing arenas. Gonna craft my second legendary this weekend. Night fae currently have the unity belt. Thinking of the drought legendary on neck. Also is 2 or 4 piece needed? I am able to make my 2 piece currently.
4 set isnt needed but its pretty useful to have
Real talk do u even enjoy playing the game zechey? 
I do when I win
idk why locks cant get heavily nerfed
why do they have to be broken every single season

fury warrs too
like what is that survivability
just cant kill
when they have a rsham
I just felt like I was being gaslighted and needed a reality check
Feral is great into DK
But go the DK not the healer
will be a bit easier next wed when I get 4-set but still
I went warr against fury warr/rsham
but its like he takes 0 dmg
dunno if it would be t he case against dk too
Idk what u should do into fury war but into DK deff go the DK not the healer
will have to probably
Fury war with 4set feels like fighting a DH but instead of blur it’s all self healing
They delete my DK I haven’t fought enough on feral to have any advice unfortunately
I think if you go fury war you give them free uptime on slaughterhouse so prob better to try and cc and control them and go healer
^ that sounds pretty logical yeah
hmm
how does that work
" Bloodthirst deals up to an additional 50% damage and healing when it hits a target under 50% health, and reduces its remaining cooldown by 1 sec. "
Fury, more than any other spec, really, benefits from uptime. If they can sit there and hammer out damaging globals (raging blow, namely) then they get more enrage uptime, more slaughterhouse uptime, more procs, more damage, etc, and it just kind of feeds into itself.
Which is why sitting there trading into them feels super bad for most specs.
The duck is always helpful
Duck works for el patron
makes sense
What cov/leggos y’all use in arenas ? I’m running NF unity+pulsar Boomy, feels okay but slightly low dps for my ilvl.. new to boomy/Druid in gen.
@livid wasp that’s old slaughterhouse new one is 40 percent ms from their rampage
But it’s 20 percent per rampage stacking
So it can fall off
so best to root him and shit while going sham I guess
Yes it will def be hard though
Its actually 5% per hit
Fury warriors are a menace lol
Fury has a root break on a 20s cd.
Any sort of disruption is good, though.
Even if it's just for a few seconds to let SH stacks drop.
1min convoke and boat feels really good, idk
U run unity+boat and talent star lord?
I been running pulsar+unity incarnation, my burst are good but my sustained dmg kinda fog water
Dog water* lmao
Man a super spicy kebab was not a move dude
Also i will make a suggestion
To make an edate channel
@surreal heron what do u think
you kind of don't have a lot of sustained damage as boomy if you don't want to hard cast some wraths. i went dreambinder and worked reasonably well but i didn't enjoy the whole playstyle
I'll save him having to reply and say that his response would probably be a resounding "Stop." 
Hey bois and girls. I wanna get into pvp again as a feral & im looking for someone to q a few games with me and teach me some stuff. if anyone's interested, hit me up 🙂
Won a hard fought game against Snupi lezzgo
To be fair we counter their comp hard lol
u areplaying
How do u lose
with hunter
Well we did not lose XD
But you can lose the matchup one rank 1 feral really destroyed us one game
true
we go some dh enh 3s @viscid remnant
ok
sry wrong region
Correct
@lime light turbo feels good
this warrior is not good tho
not bad at all but still havent faced mlx
warrior should always do
more than a woyer
in mirrors like that
i mean
more than shaman
ye i told elpatron
bro
to play it
no he is an ape
bro i have to re lvl
i mean
not sure about that game vs woyer and ret
i think u should commit
that was every cd
its easy
we q one day
and u full gear
with this conquest
and then u afk some abs vs boots
idk i think he can easily run away my trinket does nothing cuz i need 2 globals to build holypower
i also think
iam healing too little
with healing surge
but kinda greedy
i will heal a bit more
no one cares
just take lakers eu account
is there a thing such as warcraftlogs for RBGs?
i saw theres a thing called wowarenalogs. But you do need to log into your blizzard account, and I havent heard of anyone using it, so I dont know.. might be a scam, idk
but david
iam not gonna play murica
my tabard of frost
iam too poor for 1 account u want me to have 2
na is best server
not even
kappa
he is from Brazil
doesnt count
@lime light this guy is on me
doesnt intervne
XD
real
i needed like
1global to live
but no peel
unlucky
my guy smoking some good krek i swear
mongo warr
ok can u kick him iam bored
how important is weapon for feral in pvp?
like does feral abilities scale with weapon damage and stats? or is it only stats?
wep is important
no
my favorite is
shadowfury stun
int oinfernal stun
into proc 4 set stun
and into coil
but mssing conflag root
You can dispell havoc?
Anyone playing boom in WOTLK classic? Talents look fun
Wowarenalogs is legit. But won't help you with rbgs
Isn’t that murlok IO site good to look up RBG info?
if I wanted to run convoke feral what legendary is best?
is drought ok or is that a necceesity?
I think I seen some use draught but I think they are necro
I think the guide on icy veins is up to date
thank you
Got to be Mirror Images 😂
my guess is
necro ability bugged
and cleaved ontop of yourself
mirror images dont hit even close to that number (at least shouldnt)
what is there to explain
is ww monk a decent 2s partner for necro feral?
travel time plus 0.9s cast
actually hm haven't seen that many hit at once
i mean i have domed retwarr behind their pillar in under a second
veins deathborne with pi is legit the scariest thing in the game
tripple hit in exactly the same second
blinking in could explain one
but even that being the same second seems unlikely
yeah shimmering in might've been what happened
i remember trinketing a dr'd chastise to try to line a frost mage and still getting 2-tapped by bolts in under 0.5 seconds although it was just the 2
juiced skeleton
i want the legacy armor so bad 
Wait until s1 of Dragonlands and get it in a few days casually doing novoice yolos because they won't be dead as shit.
disgusting
Yeah rbgs really are
ur zanda wtf
when u pick "none because i like dinosaurs" for racial options
who are some 2s ferals i can creep on to see what they're doing gear wise?
just stalk the top 5 rated ones and their alts like tony and zev
I dont like the dinosaur forms
I like not having a hump on my back and actually looking decent with most mogs
Resub, do all kinds of dog shit quests to get flying and double leggo. Only to sit and wait for a non existent lfg invite. Oh yea that’s why this game is dumb.
What does unlocking flying have to do with pvp?
bruh of all the shit to potentially complain about how could you even begin to say flying LMAO
"I'm going to resub to the mmo and I will be very upset if they havent got rid of... questing!"
Man I just want to pvp, point was unlocking 2x leggo only to sit and not pvp.
Also I’m drunk, F
anyone playing frenzyband for feral? How is it going? How much does the CD get reduced?
it si worth it?
tldr, no
it reduces cd by like 20s
it seems clunky and not worth the squeeze to me. I also see PVP leaderboard showing it used a bit more than i expected.
Half of that
thats 10s
cool, thanks!
20s off by frenzyband is literally not actually possible with 2p
It's like some meme double dps 2s thing some people are fucking with as NF
I'll die on the hill that it's trash tho regardless
yeah i dont like it at all.
theres alot of good or at least fun legendaries for feral to play or meme with, frenzyband isnt on that list
i dont think frenzyband is good, but its not like the other options are much bettter
for NF
feral leggos are a meme
ima quit this fucking game over mlx lol
evoker / lock / x or evoker / mage / x. wiz cleaves here to stay
Hi

Hello
gm bruv
davider needs to learn clock. its not morning
Ty el patron, to you too a good day ofc
Ty mr patron i shall have a good day
I shall make the most of my day to not let this blessing go to waste
🙏 
Anyone have resto PvP conduits?
Boom ez clap
i shall help u
i use this personally
if u dont have 2set u shall swap flash of clarity to floral recycling
but it is not a big difference between the
them
👍
was good
Why is everyone running Aegis? doesnt just absprb magic damage?
ok and
what are the most common classes
warlock mage dh dk rogue
it helps against all of them
vs fury u can run alacrity or emblem
Hunter aswell i guess
aegis can help against sub and assa i think
but outlaw is mostly phyiscal
assa is magic?
I see
😄
what cov should I go for double dps balance 2's? most likely playing with an ele sham or aff lock
kyrian
ty
Never make the mistake of going into a channel other than pvp
Bro I know I saw that
No
What
That explains it
donthave
dont like those
why are fury warrs so dumb









